#raspberrypi IRC Log


IRC Log for 2013-08-08

Timestamps are in GMT/BST.

[0:00] <SrRaven> no fancy stuff that no one needs
[0:00] <ShorTie> got my wifi adapter off ebay for 5 bucks each
[0:00] <nmpro> lol..
[0:00] <pksato> http://dx.com/p/ultra-mini-nano-usb-2-0-802-11n-b-g-150mbps-wi-fi-wlan-wireless-network-adapter-white-71906
[0:00] <nmpro> I got mine from amazon for 11.00
[0:00] <nmpro> not bad.. good price!
[0:00] <SrRaven> no antenna doesnt raise hopes :P
[0:01] <pksato> today, I order this http://dx.com/p/lafalink-lf-d11-nano-usb-2-0-150mbps-802-11b-g-n-wireless-network-adapter-silver-black-177229
[0:01] <pksato> but, dont know if work out of box on rpi (linux)
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[0:01] <SrRaven> you know a stick is legit if it has the network type on it instead of a brand
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[0:02] <ShorTie> here $4.67, http://www.ebay.com/itm/Realtek-RTL8188cus-USB-150M-150Mbps-802-11b-g-n-n-Wireless-WiFi-adapter-dongle-/230973235744?pt=US_USB_Wi_Fi_Adapters_Dongles&hash=item35c713e220
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[0:03] <SrRaven> you know 100% if any of those work with the pi?
[0:03] <nmpro> here is what I'm using.. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007JRC95Q/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
[0:03] <ShorTie> work on mine
[0:04] <ShorTie> get 2 and you can become a wifi hot spot
[0:04] <SrRaven> lol
[0:04] <sysmatt> I have bought many of these for pi: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B006ZZUK5Y/ref=wms_ohs_product?ie=UTF8&psc=1
[0:04] <SrRaven> Ill only need it to set up the Pi
[0:05] <SrRaven> 26-45 workdays
[0:05] <SrRaven> geez louise
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[0:20] <davor> hm, I wish I could run whatever function I want with passing whatever args I want to it with add_event_callback (python, RPi.GPIO)
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[0:22] <davor> well whaddaya know
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[0:23] <davor> I was able to debounce the switch while using wait_for_edge
[0:24] <davor> I'm using "GPIO.wait_for_edge(pin, GPIO.FALLING)" to detect a button press, after which a command is executed. this is all inside an infinite while loop which is run as a separate thread. I just added "GPIO.wait_for_edge(int(pin[1]), GPIO.RISING)" after the command and that's it!
[0:25] * ShorTie thinkz, don't they make it so eazy for ya
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[0:26] <davor> indeed, this is so easy it's fun :p
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[0:35] <davor> oh, nope, that doesn't work
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[0:35] <davor> the command executes longer than the button press lasts, so by the time the script gets to the second wait_for_edge, the edge has already risen
[0:36] <davor> *occured
[0:36] <davor> and the pin's value has already risen
[0:36] <davor> so I need two presses for everything
[0:36] <davor> I'll just try sleeping for 200 ms
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[0:38] * nmpro wishes he knew more about electronics
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[0:39] <nmpro> sounds like davor is having fun..
[0:39] <nmpro> you must be on a sauce high.. lol.. ;)
[0:39] <davor> yep, that one works
[0:39] <davor> hahaha
[0:40] <davor> indeed, can't do work without being well fed :p
[0:40] <davor> with that being said, I'M DONE!
[0:40] <davor> I have successfully completed my first Pi project
[0:40] * nmpro stands up and claps
[0:40] <ShorTie> congrades
[0:40] <davor> three buttons, prev, pause toggle, next, which makes the RPi control my mpd machine
[0:40] <nmpro> now take a bow..
[0:40] * davor bows gracefully
[0:40] <davor> thank you, thank you
[0:40] <davor> thankyouverymuch
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[0:41] <nmpro> ok.. so when can we all expect a step-by-step posting of your completed project.. ;)
[0:42] <davor> haha well it's pretty simple. only thing that took work was the script itself
[0:42] <nmpro> ahh..
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[0:43] <davor> hmm
[0:43] <davor> just needs a few tweaks
[0:44] <davor> if I do "sudo thatscript.py &", it still prints mpc output on button press
[0:44] <ShorTie> don't programs always
[0:44] <davor> heh
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[0:47] <davor> here it is, quite simple, but still a bit tedious for my first encounters with literally all imported modules :P http://paste2.org/wyPE65dJ
[0:48] <davor> the buttons are wired like so: GPIO IN -> 2k ohm resistor -> button -> GND
[0:52] <nmpro> well.. time to head home.. have a good day/night everyone..
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[0:53] <davor> good night nmproaaaah he's gone :(
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[1:52] <megaproxy> is there anything i need to do to get the raspberry pi camera to record better?
[1:52] <megaproxy> and look less like a potato
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[1:58] <Phosie> I really want a raspi-camera...
[1:59] <megaproxy> its pretty good
[1:59] <megaproxy> it doesnt seem to like nighttime
[1:59] <Phosie> I can remember reading that on the blog.
[2:00] <Phosie> If I can ever find a need for a camera, I'll buy one.
[2:00] <CDR`> I liked this use: http://robofun.ro/create/the-sprite-raspberrypi-camera/
[2:00] <megaproxy> http://i.imgur.com/avjtaQ8.jpg
[2:00] <megaproxy> http://i.imgur.com/lT23eie.jpg
[2:00] <megaproxy> ^dashcam
[2:01] <megaproxy> i will make a better cam mount..
[2:01] * SpeedEvil grrs at lack of can flexibility.
[2:01] <Phosie> CDR`: That's cool.
[2:01] <SpeedEvil> cam
[2:02] <CDR`> I don't see any need for improving that dashcam mount :p
[2:02] <megaproxy> haha
[2:02] <megaproxy> it vibrates too much
[2:02] <CDR`> I read a novel way of importing data onto the recorded footage from the ODB readings of the vehicle... through subtitles
[2:02] <megaproxy> so im going to place it on foam or something
[2:02] <megaproxy> yea i saw that :D
[2:02] <Phosie> Cardboard and tape, what more do you need. ;P
[2:02] <megaproxy> next on my list is a bluetooth odb reader
[2:02] <megaproxy> and possibly gps dongle
[2:03] <Phosie> That reminds me, I need to get my usb webcam set up again.
[2:03] <CDR`> I've always wanted to make a carputer that is basically a gps tracker / video recorder
[2:03] <CDR`> But i'm a noob..
[2:03] <megaproxy> same
[2:03] <megaproxy> just start playing
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[2:03] <megaproxy> i took a look at a few dashcam setups
[2:03] <megaproxy> looked at the code
[2:03] <megaproxy> found the bits i want
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[2:04] <CDR`> I've managed to use my Pi as XBMC & currently as a Tor relay node
[2:04] <CDR`> thats about it.. and thats because i've done the step by step guides
[2:04] <megaproxy> your letting tor users use your internet?
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[2:04] <megaproxy> like.. a exit node?
[2:05] <Phosie> I've been playing with GPIO
[2:05] <CDR`> no, not an exit node god no
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[2:06] <megaproxy> im going to upload a clip of dashcam
[2:06] <megaproxy> CDR`, haha thankgod
[2:07] <megaproxy> is h264 the same as mkv?
[2:08] <megaproxy> youtube doesnt seem to like .h264
[2:08] <pksato> no
[2:08] <megaproxy> oooh
[2:08] <megaproxy> er
[2:08] <megaproxy> coz my cam saves to .h264
[2:09] <megaproxy> oh it worked anyway
[2:09] <megaproxy> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyaBOTmJ02U
[2:10] <pksato> mkv is a container to data. h264 is a video codec of data
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[2:11] <megaproxy> ah
[2:12] <megaproxy> once this dashcam is done
[2:12] <megaproxy> im making 3 more
[2:12] <megaproxy> they will be attached to drift car
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[2:12] <megaproxy> one in the car, one on the hood, one on the side by the wheels
[2:12] <megaproxy> on either side
[2:13] <SpeedEvil> and a fifth to take all the streams, and stitch together into one fake vertical projection
[2:14] <megaproxy> lol
[2:14] <megaproxy> oooh a quetion
[2:14] <megaproxy> how unsafe is magnet near pi?
[2:14] <megaproxy> o=would it be fine..
[2:15] * SpeedEvil tries to remember if there are any switching power converters out trhetre
[2:16] <Phosie> Youtube annoys me. English title, English description, the video isn't in English.
[2:16] <Phosie> How useful!
[2:16] <SpeedEvil> probably a good idea to keep it away unless you know.
[2:16] <SpeedEvil> Phosie: more annoying are fake preview images
[2:16] <Phosie> Tell me about it...
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[2:20] <CDR`> Unfortunately that cam isn't great in the dark :(
[2:21] <Phosie> How much is the pi cam, £25?
[2:22] <SpeedEvil> is the ir filter good enough to make ir illumination uselesas?
[2:24] <CDR`> It looks like its about �16, Phosie
[2:24] <Phosie> Ah that's better.
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[2:26] <Phosie> I think I'll give it a miss though.
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[2:29] <Phosie> £16.56
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[2:40] <CDR`> One day i'd love to send my raspberry pi into the edge of space on a weather balloon, capture a great photo and then turn it into a canvas wall print
[2:41] <CDR`> but I fear my g/f would leave me for being even more geeky than normal! :)
[2:42] <Phosie> One day I'd like to get motion working on my pi :P
[2:43] <ring0> CDR`, just let it fly, while she's on vacation ;)
[2:43] <Phosie> entering the right IP might help, derp
[2:46] <megaproxy> haha
[2:46] <megaproxy> my dashcam cought me hitting a rabit :(
[2:46] <CeilingKitten> =(
[2:46] <megaproxy> i think he went under the car
[2:46] <megaproxy> i hope
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[2:47] <Phosie> Argh stupid webcam
[2:48] <Phosie> I get a whole second of footage before "unable to open video device"
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[2:52] <Phosie> I give up
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[2:58] <Phosie> Any alternative to motion on the pi?
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[3:25] <Phosie> I'll take that as a no.
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[3:31] <Rexodus> Take a break. Webcam & linux was always hell. Raspberry doesn't change that overnight.
[3:32] <Phosie> I managed to get it to work okay on raspbian
[3:32] <Phosie> given up with motion, trying mjpg-streamer and getting an error. nothing on google
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[3:35] <Rexodus> ZoneMinder...
[3:36] <Rexodus> Trauma's!
[3:37] <Phosie> I might try zoneminder tomorrow
[3:37] <Phosie> I just wish things would work!
[3:37] <Rexodus> Most of gry hair: ZoneMinder, Windows 95 and women.... ;)
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[3:38] <Phosie> 1Unable to dequeue buffer: No such device i: Error grabbing frames
[3:39] <Phosie> i'll try again tomorrow
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[3:39] <Rexodus> Beside of that, IF you got ZoneMinder running, it's realy the thing!
[3:40] <Phosie> I can't even get motion or mjpeg-streamer running
[3:40] <Rexodus> It's a bitch... The whole cam-shit in linux....
[3:41] <Phosie> I had no problems with Raspbian but I'd rather not use that.
[3:41] <ring0> why no raspbian?
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[3:42] <Phosie> Slow boot up times, software I didn't want pre-installed. i
[3:42] <Rexodus> Most of the time I end up with buying another (cheap) cam with decent driver-support :P
[3:42] <Phosie> I'd rather start from scratch
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[3:43] <Phosie> I don't even know which webcam to buy Rexodus
[3:44] <Rexodus> Logitech is well supported most of the time...
[3:44] <ring0> or pi cam module
[3:44] <Rexodus> ip?
[3:45] <ring0> no, my bad
[3:45] <Phosie> I'd get the pi cam if it had a case. I don't want to make a mount so it's not taking pics of my ceiling
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[3:47] <Rexodus> IP-cams are nice. But watch the security :P
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[3:48] <Phosie> or else this might happen
[3:48] <Phosie> Ever wanted to watch somebody at work/
[3:48] <Phosie> ?
[3:49] <Rexodus> That's the evil side...
[3:50] <Phosie> Nice looking place though
[3:51] <Phosie> There's this thing which is like a google search, but for computers. found so many pi's on that thing
[3:51] <Rexodus> Just scan for 8080 and.... I can't understand that someone is so "misinformed".
[3:52] <Phosie> I just searched for raspberry pi, didn't try any though
[3:52] <Phosie> Also found a ton of printers
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[3:54] <Rexodus> Ow jah
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[3:54] <Rexodus> Printers...
[3:54] <Rexodus> lol
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[3:54] <Rexodus> *sigh*
[3:55] <Rexodus> HP backdoors not included :P
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[3:57] <Phosie> 3am...I might go to bed
[3:57] <Rexodus> Good night!
[3:57] <Phosie> goodnight, take care
[3:58] <Rexodus> Keep ur doors closed tightly :P
[3:58] <Phosie> lol!
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[4:25] <nerdboy> that's a pretty heavy data rate on that web cam...
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[4:39] <pksato> lol, label of second image. http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/4563
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[4:50] <nerdboy> nice...
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[5:40] <`teh1> Is there a way to change the berry image at the top of the screen?
[5:42] <`teh1> holy what nevermind i have to rebuild the kernel :'[
[5:43] <`teh1> at least i can hide it :]
[5:44] <nerdboy> yes, the little one is the kernel graphic
[5:44] <nerdboy> you can disable that in the graphics config
[5:45] <nerdboy> not too hard to cross-compile a kernel, or about 10 hours native on the pi...
[5:46] <PhotoJim> building a kernel is a good stress test for a machine.
[5:47] <nerdboy> maybe less if you crank it up to 1 GHz and use make -j2
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[5:48] * nerdboy can't remember what his job number was
[5:48] <`teh1> nerdboy: i disabled in cmdline.txt or w/e… logo.nologo
[5:48] <`teh1> adios
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[5:49] <nerdboy> PhotoJim: i was about to reiterate what you said, but he was too quick
[5:51] <nerdboy> i have a gentoo card if i really want to stress it...
[5:51] <PhotoJim> for the Pi? Didn't realize you could run Gentoo on it. Interesting.
[5:53] <nerdboy> anything with a public kernel and bootloader will have gentoo on it tomorrow
[5:54] <nerdboy> or at least in a day or two...
[5:55] <nerdboy> i have native gentoo on pi/chromebook/efikamx/mk802
[5:55] <nerdboy> all built from the arm stage3s
[5:56] <nerdboy> actually all from the same armv7hf stage3 except pi...
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[5:57] <nerdboy> but the chromebook is the only one that even comes close to decent x86 compile performance
[5:57] <nerdboy> not at all, really
[5:57] <nerdboy> *bad
[5:58] <nerdboy> which is one the main reasons i build for pi with yocto now
[5:59] <nerdboy> builds a complete (albeit lightweight) OS image in a few hours on a cheap amd64 quad-core with 8 GB ram
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[6:05] <SpicyNapkins> Long time no see
[6:05] <nerdboy> speaking of which, i need to post the new build image and sdk
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[6:07] <SpicyNapkins> I'll feel lame coming in here after being gone for so long, and just dumping this
[6:07] <SpicyNapkins> But have you guys seen the uniPi case on Kickstarter?
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[6:10] <SpicyNapkins> if not: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1512063224/unipi-case-aluminum-unibody-raspberry-pi-enclosure/posts/563199?ref=activity
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[6:14] <McBofh> $q
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[6:14] <Datalink> what about the metal pi cases that Adafruit and Sparkfun sell, as well as modmypi (I think)
[6:16] <SpicyNapkins> cheapest metal one on ada is $75, and it's not really case, more of skeleton
[6:16] <SpicyNapkins> :P
[6:16] <SpicyNapkins> the uniPi is a full case, machined from a single aluminum block, for $35
[6:16] <Datalink> I coul have sworn the Ada's case is a 2 piece one
[6:17] <SpicyNapkins> hmm, lemme look again
[6:17] <Datalink> that one looks alright though
[6:17] <SpicyNapkins> if the uniPi makes it to $10k funding, they will add adonizing your color choice at no extra charge
[6:17] <SpicyNapkins> which is pretty cool
[6:17] <SpicyNapkins> anodizing
[6:18] <SpicyNapkins> Oh I was wrong, the one on Ada is a 2 piece case, not a skeleton
[6:18] <SpicyNapkins> Still, expensive. :P
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[6:19] <Datalink> yeah, true, it's 3 times the cost of a Pi, but if you need a case for parachuteless balloon flights, it'd be the right case (though I think that'd also fall under dangerous and intentional dropping of harmful items
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[6:20] <Datalink> "how'd the man die" "a computer fell on him from space!"
[6:20] <SpicyNapkins> lol
[6:21] <SpicyNapkins> welp I'm out
[6:21] <SpicyNapkins> later
[6:21] <Datalink> in case you couldn't tell, I am not condoning using a milled block of aluminum as the payload of a weather balloon
[6:21] <Datalink> later
[6:21] <McBofh> "he took Newton's experience to the next level; a piece of fruit killed him"
[6:21] <Datalink> haha, nice
[6:22] <Datalink> hm, now that I think of it, I'm not totally sure a Pi'd survive a drop from that high even in that case, it's a lot of shock stress on landing, isn't it?
[6:22] <McBofh> generally
[6:23] <Datalink> yeah, it'd be sandwhiched between a piece of neoprene and a few pieces of alunumn
[6:23] <nerdboy> the energy has to go somewhere...
[6:23] <Datalink> yeah, it'd go into the PCB probably
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[6:24] <Datalink> I'm sure aside from a corner dent the case'd survive... it's a pair of alunumn blocks milled... but the Pi itself probably wouldn't be usable again
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[6:25] <Datalink> hm, that'd be an interesting small kickstarter, wouldn't it, "shock test a Pi" top donation would be to get the remains shipped to you :P
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[6:26] <nerdboy> maybe if it fell on a giant bucket of super-balls...
[6:27] <Datalink> "NASA reports today that a small rubber object has impacted the ISS from an unidentified location in the US midwest... engineers are currently working out how to compensate for the inertial transfer to restore it's standard orbit"
[6:29] <jda2000> I notice that the screen will go blank after a while but is there something I need to set to make the HDTV power off the display? (I'm using the HDMI port)
[6:30] <jda2000> rasbian...
[6:30] <jda2000> lde...
[6:31] <Datalink> I never did get around to programming my cec controlled powersave for my Pi, or I'd link you to it x.x
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[6:32] <jda2000> Datalink, I'd be happy if you just explained what a cec controlled powersave is.
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[6:33] <Datalink> jda2000, there's a library for controlling HDMI devices, called libcec, for the Raspberry Pi, this library can access the HDMI port directly, I was going to script my Pi so the act of turning off the framebuffer for powersave would also tell the TV to turn off, and vice versa to turn it on
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[6:34] <Datalink> I never got around to it, due to other projects
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[6:35] <jda2000> Oh, Thanks for the info.
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[6:36] * jda2000 googles libcec
[6:38] <nerdboy> jda2000: is the tv set for that?
[6:38] <nerdboy> it's in the firmware, so it should work with any distro
[6:38] <nerdboy> it Just Works with a small toshiba hd tv
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[6:40] <nerdboy> my radeonhd card does nothing in the same tv, but the pi has an extra little pop-out cec menu in the tv's OSD input menu
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[6:40] <nerdboy> did i say menu?
[6:41] <jda2000> nerdboy, I didn't get much documentation with the tv. I probably should browse it's menus.
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[6:41] <Datalink> my off brand (Emerson) was also a 'just works' but that's just for CEC control, the ability to toggle it on powesave isn't somethiing that's built into the OS for CEC, since most Linux distros don't need this behavior, Raspberry Pi has a CEC controller and CEC itself is written into the heart of the HDMI spec
[6:41] <jda2000> nerdboy, but it is super cheap so I don't expect a lot of sophistication.
[6:42] <nerdboy> the auto-cec stuff can be disabled, but it seems the toshiba has it all enabled by default
[6:42] <Datalink> Toshiba's a larger brand, they would support it out of box
[6:43] <nerdboy> Datalink: exactly, it's OS-independent on the pi
[6:43] <Datalink> nerdboy, like I said, the Pi has a CEC controller in the VideoCore's HDMI section
[6:44] <nerdboy> when i power up the pi, the display switches the input to the pi, when i power down the pi, the tv powers off too
[6:44] <Datalink> that's firmware, not OS
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[6:44] <Datalink> the thing he wants to do is have the Pi turn off the display when the screen blanks
[6:44] <nerdboy> yup
[6:45] <nerdboy> my tv has that option, but it think it's on the tv side
[6:45] <nerdboy> s/it/i/
[6:45] <Datalink> the Pi and the TV are both part of it, TV turning on is a CEC function of a new device pinging the CEC bus
[6:47] <nerdboy> i take that back, looks like it is a cec function
[6:47] <Datalink> I've been saying that for 5 minutes
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[6:47] <nerdboy> i have 1) auto-input, 2) auto power, and 3) device auto standby
[6:48] <nerdboy> i could swear that third one was in a different menu section...
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[6:56] <jda2000> for me, neither apt-cache nor dpkg -l acknowledge the existance of libcec
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[7:01] <Datalink> cec-utils, libcec1, libcec-dev; apt-cache and dpkg work off the same database I believe,
[7:01] * Datalink runs a quick apt-get update
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[7:09] <nerdboy> i'm mostly running my own yocto image, so i can guarantee there's no libcec or anything related to it...
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[7:14] <nerdboy> jda2000: you don't have any of the cec_ignore stuff enabled in config.txt, do you?
[7:15] <jda2000> nerdboy, I don't recall....
[7:15] <nerdboy> default is enabled
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[7:16] <nerdboy> if it's not set to 1 it should be "Normal behaviour"
[7:16] <nerdboy> yay for uk english spelling in the comments...
[7:17] <nerdboy> as long as it's enabled on the tv, it should Just Work
[7:17] <nerdboy> in theory...
[7:19] <jda2000> I see no mention of "cec" in my config.txt The only change I made there was to disable overscan.
[7:20] <nerdboy> should be what you want then
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[7:23] <mike_t> jda2000, are you install libcec from repo?
[7:23] <mike_t> which version?
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[7:24] <jda2000> mike_t, no I just wanted to see if it was available. it wasn't
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[7:26] <jda2000> mike_t, not for debian 7.1 anyway.
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[7:26] <jda2000> nerdboy, Did see an enable CEC in the tv's menu.
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[7:29] <jda2000> And there is an auto power off too. But since the pi is getting it's power from the TV i guess i'll leave that off.
[7:29] <nerdboy> good idea...
[7:30] <jda2000> Funny, now that I've enabled CEC. The TV seems to know it's connected to something called "raspberry".
[7:30] <nerdboy> what are the menu options under CEC?
[7:30] <nerdboy> yeah, mine too
[7:31] <jda2000> nerdboy, Just "System Audio Control" and "Device Discovery"
[7:32] <nerdboy> completely different menu options on two tvs just gives me a warm fuzzy...
[7:33] <jda2000> nerdboy, Well, I did mention it was a cheap set.
[7:35] <Coburn> wow
[7:35] <Coburn> filesystem on my SD card is fubar
[7:35] <Coburn> well, not unreadable but
[7:35] <Coburn> messy. fsck required
[7:36] <Coburn> why is overclocking effecting SD cards?
[7:36] <Coburn> do I need to up the speed of the SD bus?
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[7:42] <nerdboy> Coburn: haven't seen anything here, but i keep testing new builds and sometimes i forget to change config.txt...
[7:42] <nerdboy> what filesystem and mount options?
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[7:45] <nerdboy> ext* should probably have relatime
[7:45] <nerdboy> ext3 might use a couple of extras, depending
[7:46] <nerdboy> if it's ext4, then "defaults,relatime" should be fine
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[7:53] <Coburn> well it's the root filesystem
[7:53] <Coburn> on SD card
[7:53] <Coburn> the filesystem is beyond recovery - time to format and start again
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[7:59] <nerdboy> adding relatime to the mount options will tend to minimize filesystem updates
[7:59] <nerdboy> at least it stops writes that are just atime updates
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[10:05] <ElTimo> Is there any way to get WOL working?
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[10:09] <pierrrrr> morning
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[10:23] <RaTTuS|BIG> ElTimo - no WOL to a Raspberry pi cannot work
[10:24] <gordonDrogon> morning...
[10:24] <Joeboy> Morning
[10:24] <RaTTuS|BIG> \o morn gordonDrogon
[10:25] <ElTimo> RaTTuS|BIG: Ah well. Worth a shot. Thanks for the answer.
[10:25] <RaTTuS|BIG> net next question is why - the RPI uses soo liitle power
[10:25] <ElTimo> It's to save my TV. I have a plasma :/
[10:26] <ShorTie> mornin
[10:26] <RaTTuS|BIG> ElTimo power via the TV then when you switch the TV on the RPI will come on
[10:27] <ElTimo> I would, but the TV is so old that it doesn't have a USB port.
[10:27] <gordonDrogon> I thought that would be a good idea myself recently - Put the Pi on the back of my little 16" tV I use as a Pi monitor & power it via the TV's USB socket...
[10:27] <RaTTuS|BIG> right time for coffee and cake
[10:28] <gordonDrogon> didn't work - the TV takes 30 seconds to start (!) by which time the Pi has booted and decided there's no HDMI - so that's fixable, butthen the TV goes into standby mode after half an hour and turns the Pi off )-:
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[10:44] <hifi> gordonDrogon: standby settings should be configurable
[10:44] <hifi> though if you want standby and the pi to be powered at the same time
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[10:56] <gordonDrogon> that would be the plan - TV in standby, Pi on... doesn't seem to be able to do that (after 5 minutes going through all the menus)
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[10:58] <hifi> I have my router next to the tv so I could just plug it in the router's USB port
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[11:00] <gordonDrogon> it's not big deal - I just thought it would be nice to have a Pi mounted behind the monitor to keep it out of the way...
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[11:27] <CruX__> Has anybody done some comparisons before and after that commit in xbmc? https://github.com/xbmc/xbmc/pull/3016
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[11:29] <ShiftPlusOne> CruX__, maybe the xbmc-rpi, openelec, xbian and raspbmc channels might be more helpful.
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[13:07] <biberao> hi
[13:07] <biberao> anyone running screenly?
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[13:23] <megaproxy> is there any tweaks for the pi camera?
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[13:38] <megaproxy> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F69KUNCNyjo < daytime dashcam test
[13:42] <kephra> megaproxy, are you in england, or is the camera mirrored?
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[13:42] <megaproxy> haha, yea, in England
[13:42] <kephra> are dashcams allowed in England? (they are banned in Austria, iirc)
[13:43] <megaproxy> why the hell would they ban dashcams?!
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[13:44] <kephra> "In many countries[specify] usage of such devices could be outlawed, since they can be considered being secret photography devices, violating others' privacy rights. Dashcams are forbidden by law in Austria." wikipedia
[13:44] <megaproxy> how odd
[13:44] <megaproxy> http://www.dashcamsonline.com.au/are-dash-cams-legal-in-australia/
[13:44] <megaproxy> this seems to say they are leagle
[13:44] <megaproxy> legal
[13:45] <kephra> Austria != Australia
[13:45] <megaproxy> oh shit mybad
[13:45] * megaproxy is dyslexic
[13:45] <megaproxy> totally read as australia haha
[13:45] <kephra> its a common error
[13:46] <kephra> and a technical question - do you have G-Sensor to detect crashes and stop overwriting/loop
[13:46] <megaproxy> i dont
[13:46] <megaproxy> not yet anyway
[13:46] <megaproxy> atm all it does is film.
[13:46] <megaproxy> it will eventually read the cars ODB, gps log, and possibly sensors
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[13:51] <gordonDrogon> megaproxy is forgetting it's a family friend channel too.
[13:52] <gordonDrogon> Channel Rules: http://tiny.cc/h7za1w
[13:52] <megaproxy> i always forget that about this chan
[13:52] <megaproxy> not used to holding back!
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[14:07] <kephra> gordonDrogon, family friendly largely depends on culture/country - e.g. in US it means guns are ok, but nipples not - in Germany its the opposite
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[14:34] <Mort> Oh hi.
[14:34] <McBofh> o hai
[14:34] * McBofh coughs
[14:34] <McBofh> hi
[14:34] <Mort> I'm having problems with my SD card - Data error (cyclic redundancy check) when trying to re-flash it. Any idea how i can fix it?
[14:34] <McBofh> chuck it and get a new one
[14:34] <McBofh> sorry
[14:35] <Mort> Seriously?
[14:35] <McBofh> yep
[14:35] <Mort> Yeah, no, not chucking away a card that's not even 6 months old
[14:35] <megaproxy> return it then
[14:35] <megaproxy> either way, needs a new one
[14:35] <McBofh> you won't get any reliability from it
[14:36] <McBofh> so either chuck it or return it
[14:36] <McBofh> ask yourself this question: how much is Correct Data worth?
[14:36] <Mort> See, i don't care, basically.
[14:36] <pksato> McBofh: life span of SD card are measured on write cycles.
[14:36] <McBofh> why bother wasting time on it then?
[14:37] <Mort> Because i don't have money to buy new one?
[14:37] <McBofh> pksato: I know
[14:37] <McBofh> Mort: so take it back to the vendor and get a replacement
[14:37] <McBofh> or, get *them* to prove to you that it works
[14:37] <pksato> 10000 to 1000000000 cycles.
[14:38] <McBofh> I've got a 1gb card which works "just fine" when I plug it into my windows laptop. However, raspbmc stresses the heck out of it, so it is actually unusable due to no reliability
[14:38] <Mort> it might be not supported.
[14:38] <Mort> brb hirens boot
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[14:38] <pksato> You can to wipe all sd card. On linux, use badblocks, on windows, find some tools.
[14:40] <McBofh> I'm curious about the assumptions you are making about me
[14:43] <McBofh> actually, scratch that, I don't
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[14:45] <Phosie> Just tried to use pacman on my ubuntu netbook, too much time on the pi last night I think.
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[14:57] <Mort> And just now, my card let magic smoke out :|
[14:57] <Mort> Found a 4G replacement thought
[14:58] <Matt> you actually managed to get magic smoke from an SD card?
[14:58] <Matt> what were you doing to the poor thing?
[14:58] <Mort> Nothing.
[14:58] <Mort> Plugged it into reader
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[14:59] <Phosie> I'm impressed.
[15:01] <gordonDrogon> kephra, I think most people know what's meant here.
[15:04] <Mort> Phosie - hardware hates me today
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[15:06] <Phosie> Aww Mort
[15:07] <Mort> Now i'm wondering, should i go back to raspbian or poke at arch..
[15:07] <MrVector> Hey guys! Come pretty far in my bare metal exerimentations. Figured I'd do it "properly" now. Does anyone have any recommendations for reading about the boot process on the pi? Everything from power on to bootloader, to kernel, to os and the responsibilities and actions of each component?
[15:07] <Joeboy> MrVector: dwelch's github repo is the bible afaik
[15:08] <MrVector> I've been searching but can't seem to find any "complete" resource
[15:08] <gordonDrogon> MrVector, the linux source code ?
[15:08] <Joeboy> The bcm peripherals guide
[15:08] <MrVector> I might be wrong here, but I don't remember dwelch mention the start.elf, bootcode.bin etc
[15:09] <Joeboy> bootcode.bin's closed and mysterious
[15:09] <MrVector> gordonDrogon I was kind of hoping there would be some sort of summary, or overview... or something
[15:09] <MrVector> I don't need an extermely detailed explanation of it Joeboy, just general info regarding what it does and stuff
[15:10] <Joeboy> MrVector: https://github.com/hermanhermitage/videocoreiv might be interesting
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[15:12] <Joeboy> tbh I'm not entirely sure how this stuff works. aiui bootcode.bin runs on the gpu (not the arm), loads bootcode.bin from the SD card, then bootcode.bin loads (start.elf?) from the card, then hands over to the arm to run it.
[15:12] <Joeboy> I'm kind of making that up
[15:12] <Phosie> Mort: i like Arch.
[15:12] <Mort> Does arch have SSHD enabled by default?
[15:12] <Phosie> It does.
[15:12] <MrVector> There was a forum post describign the process, pretty good explanation as well, but it was incomplete and prior to the deprecation of loader.bin
[15:13] <MrVector> Thanks for the link btw, Joeboy very interesting indeed
[15:13] <Mort> Phosie - there's no resizing process like in raspbian, is there?
[15:13] <Joeboy> MrVector: What are you working on, ooi?
[15:14] <Phosie> There isn't,Mort.I just do it using gparted.
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[15:14] <Phosie> Really easy.
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[15:14] <MrVector> ooi? I'm just working on making my very own system from scratch for educational purposes. :)
[15:14] <Mort> phorce1 - eeehhhhh, it might be a problem for me, ain't got 2 linux box
[15:14] <Phosie> VM?
[15:14] <Joeboy> MrVector: "out of interest"
[15:14] <Joeboy> Cool
[15:14] <MrVector> Ah!
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[15:14] <sqrrl> my pi hang yesterday had to reset it hard, i see this in the log: http://pastebin.com/9qqDDkBu any way to see what happened?
[15:14] <Mort> Phosie - nope.
[15:15] <Phosie> Get one then, it's free and easy
[15:15] <sqrrl> even tho it hang it replied to the pings and had ssh/rtorret port opened
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[15:15] <sqrrl> no responce anywhere tho
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[15:15] <MrVector> Have followed along and read pretty much every resource I've been able to find on the topic, and tried to read the manuals and stuff. So figured I should "go back to basics" to get a real environment going with a bootloader and stuff
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[15:16] <SpeedEvil> MrVector: You may need to do a lot of reverese engineering.
[15:16] <MrVector> But I lack knowledge in the area, all I've done so far is just have a kernel.img where I have small programs
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[15:16] <SpeedEvil> Lots of it is explicitly not documented publically
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[15:16] <Joeboy> MrVector: If you want to work on videocoreiv that would be awesome
[15:16] <MrVector> Done various things, gotten stuff on screen etc. So now I wanted to structure it properly, and get a very small DOS-like os going :-)
[15:16] <Joeboy> MrVector: Although it'll probably mostly be a distraction from your actual project
[15:17] <MrVector> I will probably document my findings as I go along, for myself if nothing else
[15:17] <MrVector> There's a lot to take in :-)
[15:17] <Joeboy> True
[15:18] <davor> to boldly go where no one has gone before!
[15:18] <Joeboy> I'm currently writing an elf dynamic linker, which is quite educational
[15:18] <Joeboy> It even kind of works, except when it doesn't
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[15:19] <MrVector> Once I have a decent system going, I was considering swapping to x86. But that's all for later! :)
[15:19] <Joeboy> Which is any time I try to link against real libraries
[15:20] <MrVector> Oh interesting project :)
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[15:27] <MrVector> Also, I picked up a http://www.ftdichip.com/Products/Cables/RPi.htm a couple of weeks ago, and turns out there are no windows 8 drivers for it
[15:28] <MrVector> Sad, very sad indeed, as all of my computers are running win8 now.
[15:28] <MrVector> Is there something you can do to make it work, or is there a cable that is supported by win8?
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[15:34] <Joeboy> MrVector: Maybe a jtag cable?
[15:34] <Joeboy> MrVector: I was looking at jtag cables the other day and finding ones with linux drivers seemed like more of a problem
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[15:35] <MrVector> Well the readme that came with my cable stated that "chip MODELX/MODELY etc doesn't support Windows 8", implying there is one that is supported by win8
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[15:35] <MrVector> So I was kind of hoping I had just bought the wrong one or something, but everywhere I look there are comments on how there are no drivers.
[15:35] <pksato> MrVector: FTDI list win8 as comatible OS.
[15:36] <Joeboy> Dunno, I don't do Windows
[15:37] <MrVector> http://uk.farnell.com/ftdi/ttl-232r-rpi/cable-debug-ttl-232-usb-rpi/dp/2147356 Only lists win7
[15:37] <MrVector> This is what I meant http://www.ftdichip.com/Support/Documents/DataSheets/Cables/DS_TTL-232R_RPi.pdf
[15:38] <Joeboy> http://www.ftdichip.com/Support/Documents/InstallGuides.htm mentions Windows 8
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[15:38] <pksato> for com port http://www.ftdichip.com/Drivers/VCP.htmhttp://www.ftdichip.com/Drivers/VCP.htm
[15:38] <pksato> for D2xx http://www.ftdichip.com/Drivers/D2XX.htm
[15:39] <MrVector> So you think it's just a case of them not keeping all of their PDFs up to date?
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[15:40] <Joeboy> Could be. Try it and see?
[15:40] <MrVector> This guy seems about as confused as I am, http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=52150&p=401139
[15:40] <MrVector> No replies, of course :-)
[15:40] <MrVector> Oh wait, Aug 08? That's today isn't it
[15:41] <Phosie> Yes
[15:41] <Phosie> "by KryziK » Today, 12:52 am"
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[15:41] <Mort> whaat
[15:41] <Mort> Arch is really tiny
[15:41] <Mort> 28% of used space on 2GB card
[15:41] <MrVector> It says "by KryziK » Thu Aug 08, 2013 12:52 am" for me :)
[15:42] <Joeboy> That's not tiny :-)
[15:42] <Mort> Joeboy - compare to raspbian
[15:42] <Phosie> Mort: that's because it comes with hardly any software
[15:43] <Mort> Phosie - just the way i like it.
[15:44] <Phosie> That's the way ah ha ah ha I like it
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[15:51] <Mort> Hrm
[15:51] <Mort> I like how bare arch is more even way more responsive than raspbian
[15:51] <Phosie> i like the boot time.
[15:52] <Mort> i need to find a way to inflate the / and i'll be fine with arch now
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[15:52] <gordonDrogon> Mort, run raspi-config ?
[15:52] <Mort> gordonDrogon - on arch?
[15:53] <gordonDrogon> think so - thought I'd read it was running there.
[15:53] <gordonDrogon> However this: https://projects.drogon.net/raspberry-pi/initial-setup1/ has all you need, but it's a but old.
[15:53] <Phosie> That's why I love having linux on my netbook, can just use gparted.
[15:54] <gordonDrogon> you can do it all live on the Pi.
[15:55] <megaproxy> can you speed up raspbien boot time?
[15:55] <gordonDrogon> I'm happy with 25 seconds
[15:56] <Mort> arch boots in 10 thought
[15:56] <megaproxy> faster the better for a dashcam
[15:56] <megaproxy> ill get a better sd card soon
[15:56] <gordonDrogon> sometimes I think the Pi isn't always the best device for everything...
[15:56] <Mort> Since it ain't
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[15:56] <megaproxy> haha
[15:57] <megaproxy> but its fun :d
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[15:57] <gordonDrogon> but it's not designed for instant on/off, like a proper embedded device is - like a commercial dash-cam.
[15:57] <Mort> megaproxy - wait, wasn't it you that was asking if it's safe to place blutack on pi?
[15:57] <megaproxy> yes :D
[15:57] <megaproxy> and fyi, its safe
[15:57] <megaproxy> i tried
[15:57] <megaproxy> haha
[15:57] <Mort> Christ.
[15:57] <Phosie> I should get a dash-cam
[15:57] <gordonDrogon> yes, it's safe, but because the Pi is rather warm, it melts everywhere.
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[15:58] <Joeboy> gordonDrogon: Isn't that mostly because people run linux on them, rather than because of the hardware?
[15:59] <Joeboy> I mean it's slightly because of the hardware, but if you write embedded-style code it'll still start up in <100ms or something
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[16:01] <Mort> man, wish i had a proper case
[16:01] <Mort> I'm using the box PI came in from RS
[16:01] <MrVector> I picked up a case for like £4, very happy with it :)
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[16:03] <megaproxy> Mort: the pink one?
[16:03] <Mort> megaproxy - yeah
[16:03] <megaproxy> http://imgur.com/a/tl3u6
[16:03] <megaproxy> i did the same :D
[16:04] <Mort> CBA to make pics, i made holes too
[16:04] <megaproxy> holes are good.
[16:04] <Mort> Even some vent holes on top, where RCA is
[16:04] <Joeboy> My pi is sitting under the static shielding bag it came in
[16:04] <Mort> and audio out
[16:04] <Joeboy> Keeps the dust off
[16:05] <megaproxy> i later moded that case
[16:05] <megaproxy> http://imgur.com/a/ZHjvQ
[16:05] <megaproxy> (room has since been cleaned)
[16:05] <Mort> I need a proper case, this one is ticking me off
[16:05] <Phosie> I was caseless for a month, then I got a great one
[16:05] <Phosie> SB components I think?
[16:05] <megaproxy> i got myself a pibow yesterday
[16:05] <MrVector> Mine came in a small bag in a padded envelope :O
[16:05] <Mort> i wonder if i could run a fan off the pi
[16:05] <megaproxy> http://i.imgur.com/avjtaQ8.jpg
[16:06] <Mort> megaproxy - gimme
[16:06] <megaproxy> Mort: that fan was more volt than the pins would give
[16:06] <megaproxy> :(
[16:06] <megaproxy> thats why it went into fan controller on pc
[16:06] <Phosie> Mort: i run a 6v motor, not directly from the pins though
[16:06] <Phosie> I'd love a pibow timber
[16:06] <Joeboy> If anybody wanted to link me to a case that gives access to the GPIO and has a switch that I can connect to the reset header, I would be interested
[16:06] <Mort> I can't afford a new case, hence why sticking to the box
[16:07] <megaproxy> pibow was �12
[16:07] <megaproxy> there are �5 ones
[16:07] <Mort> i live in poland :v
[16:07] <MrVector> The £5 ones don't hav epower switches
[16:07] <megaproxy> ohright
[16:07] <megaproxy> epower/
[16:07] <Mort> Phosie - is it me or is arch really write-heavy?
[16:07] <MrVector> He said "has a switch" :<
[16:08] <MrVector> If you're after a regular case, https://www.modmypi.com/raspberry-pi-cases is pretty good
[16:08] <Mort> https://www.modmypi.com/raspberry-pi-cases/GAMBLE-Mix-N%27-Match-Raspberry-Pi-Case >:D
[16:08] <MrVector> :-)
[16:08] <MrVector> It's a great deal
[16:08] * megaproxy orders 2
[16:08] <Mort> I'd like this one thought https://www.modmypi.com/raspberry-pi-cases/cyntech-white-raspberry-pi-case
[16:09] <megaproxy> eu shipping is 1.99 bro
[16:09] <Joeboy> That is pretty
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[16:10] <Joeboy> Aaargh, massive yak shaving
[16:10] <Joeboy> I so don't need to be researching rpi cases
[16:10] <Joeboy> Actually it's not even yak shaving, just procrastination
[16:11] <Phosie> Mort: I haven't noticed.
[16:11] <Mort> Phosie - the act light
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[16:11] <Mort> it is turned on constantly
[16:11] <Mort> It worries me
[16:11] <Phosie> I don't look at my pi when I'm using it so wouldn't know.
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[16:12] <ShiftPlusOne> It used to be called the 'OK' light, so....
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[16:12] <Mort> ShiftPlusOne - oh, so it's not on when something's r/wing to the card?
[16:13] <ShiftPlusOne> AFAIK, it flashes then there's IO activity and is otherwise constantly on.
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[16:13] <Joeboy> I like how rs-online's website takes you straight to the raspberry pi page if you search for "raspberry" or "pi"
[16:14] <Joeboy> therefore making it impossible to search for raspberry pi cases
[16:14] <gordonDrogon> Joeboy, what country?
[16:14] <ShiftPlusOne> Isn't there an accessories section on the pi page?
[16:14] <Joeboy> Found it
[16:14] <Joeboy> Is terrible usability though
[16:15] <gordonDrogon> Joeboy, http://www.skpang.co.uk/catalog/starter-kita-for-raspberry-pi-pi-not-include-p-1070.html
[16:15] <megaproxy> ugh
[16:15] <megaproxy> i gota go back to the datacenter
[16:15] <megaproxy> and put hard drives in
[16:15] <megaproxy> *fun* �.�
[16:15] <gordonDrogon> no remote hands?
[16:15] <Joeboy> gordonDrogon: ta
[16:15] <megaproxy> gordonDrogon: yea, but they are useless
[16:16] <gordonDrogon> Joeboy, that's not a 'case' as such, but I have a few of them.
[16:16] <megaproxy> rather do it ourselves. Its 2 mins down the road
[16:16] <gordonDrogon> megaproxy, Ah...
[16:16] <gordonDrogon> that's handy.... mine is 350 miles away...
[16:16] <megaproxy> we will have our own DC soon too
[16:16] <megaproxy> gordonDrogon: host with us ;)
[16:16] <gordonDrogon> megaproxy, where?
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[16:16] <megaproxy> Slough UK
[16:16] <Mort> Ugh
[16:16] <gordonDrogon> Hm. marginally easier to get to than Manchester ...
[16:16] <Mort> Raspi-config on arch wants me to install newt package
[16:17] <megaproxy> thign is, we dont really do colo yet
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[16:17] <megaproxy> its in the pipeline though
[16:17] <Mort> pacman -S new doesn't find one
[16:17] <megaproxy> pacman is busy
[16:17] <megaproxy> thats why
[16:17] <gordonDrogon> Mort, yea, newt is the text based gui thing...
[16:17] <megaproxy> he has ghosts to eat
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[16:17] <gordonDrogon> megaproxy, I'm toying with the idea of shutting down all the hosted stuff I do - it's not that cost effective now.
[16:18] <megaproxy> whats the buisness?
[16:18] <megaproxy> hosting?
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[16:19] <gordonDrogon> yea
[16:19] <gordonDrogon> well - it started with custom solutions for my clients, but I did some general purpose hosting for a few local webbys.
[16:19] <megaproxy> we do managed servers, reseller etc etc
[16:19] <megaproxy> if you wanted to move to managed systems?
[16:19] <gordonDrogon> yea, it's all about trust though.
[16:19] <gordonDrogon> and control.
[16:19] <megaproxy> we would have root
[16:19] <megaproxy> as its managed
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[16:19] <gordonDrogon> I own my servers.
[16:20] <megaproxy> mm
[16:20] <Mort> ./raspi-config: line 59: /etc/rc.d/functions.d/resize2fs_once: No such file or directory
[16:20] <Mort> :|
[16:20] <megaproxy> at some point we will do colocation
[16:20] <gordonDrogon> mort do it manually - see that web page I posted earlier. it's not hard...
[16:20] <Mort> gordonDrogon - buuut
[16:20] <gordonDrogon> go-on.. live a little :)
[16:21] <gordonDrogon> megaproxy, the big hassle is all the voip ones - it would be really hard to get some of my clients to change IP address right now.
[16:21] <megaproxy> mmm
[16:22] <megaproxy> right ill bbs, going to go do these drives and pull a server out
[16:22] <gordonDrogon> enjoy!
[16:23] <megaproxy> here is what i racked last week : http://i.imgur.com/7wYpEBL.jpg
[16:23] <megaproxy> it hurt my back
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[16:31] <Vostok> any experience with beaglebone black?
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[16:35] <nid0> Vostok: I own one
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[16:42] <Vostok> do you have insights on its capabilities compared to raspi in your projects?
[16:43] <nid0> it has positives and negatives
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[16:44] <nid0> its faster, has onboard flash which is much quicker than SD, it has a proper ethernet port, and if you're interfacing with other stuff it has a LOT more gpio capability
[16:45] <nid0> but, its slightly bigger, it has no media capability, and its frankly just a bit of a hassle to use with anything other than the built in angstrom because one of the selling points of it is that it doesnt need an SD thanks to having onboard flash, but the only way to change OS on the onboard flash is by using an SD as an intermediate step
[16:47] <nid0> if you're happy with angstrom though it's super easy for a beginner, literally just plugin the microusb and it boots, will make use of usb networking, and will load straight up to a nice user-friendly browser interface on a host pc with a load of management capabilities, console, etc
[16:47] <nid0> being as its both new and the beaglebone community is a *lot* smaller than the pi though, you will find there's a lot less community provided info on doing stuff with it
[16:48] <nid0> and what info there is gets more confused than for the pi, because there've been several different beaglebone devices with different capabilities and ways of doing things
[16:49] <nid0> so.... its a "better" device than the pi for pretty much anything except media hardware-wise, and crazy easy for a beginner to plugin and use, but becomes a bit more of an uphill struggle than the pi when you want to start looking at different os options
[16:50] <Mort> Ah carp
[16:50] <Mort> Resized partition to fill entire SD card
[16:50] <Mort> forgot to add swap ._.
[16:51] <nid0> thats fine
[16:51] <ShiftPlusOne> O_o
[16:51] <nid0> god invented swapfiles for a reason
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[16:53] <Phosie> I have no swap either.
[16:53] <Mort> gordonDrogon - also
[16:53] <Mort> http://archlinuxarm.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=3119&start=20#p33507
[16:54] <Mort> this is how you need to make new partition table for arch, resize2fs is used on the /dev/mmcblk0p5
[16:55] <nid0> fwiw the page he linked you to is specifically for raspbian
[16:55] <Mort> also, would swapfile show in df?
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[16:56] <nid0> no
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[16:57] <linuxstb> cat /proc/swaps
[16:58] <Mort> it's there. Thanks.
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[17:03] <megaproxy> back
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[17:08] <megaproxy> i forgot to click checkout on the 2 pi cases lol
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[17:15] <nmpro> good morning every1
[17:17] <hifi> Mort: of course swapfile will show up as used space on your card
[17:18] <Mort> such low mem usage, 19 megs on core~
[17:19] <hifi> what core?
[17:19] <hifi> arch?
[17:19] <Mort> yeah
[17:19] <hifi> sounds about the same as debian/raspbian
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[17:36] <Mort> is 55 celcius safe temperature for pi?
[17:36] <SirLagz> yes
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[17:37] <IT_Sean> yes
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[17:42] <[Saint]> Mort: up to 79C will have absolutely no effect.
[17:42] <SirLagz> above 85 and you *might* void your warranty...if you're overvolting
[17:42] <[Saint]> 80C to 84C will throttle the CPU, and 85C will initiate thermal shutdown.
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[17:42] <[Saint]> SirLagz: no...
[17:43] <SirLagz> just going off what Dom posted in the forums
[17:43] <[Saint]> the temperature is irrelevant to warranty.
[17:43] <[Saint]> afaik.
[17:43] <IT_Sean> [Saint] is correct.
[17:44] <Mort> overvolting automatically voids warranty iirc
[17:44] <SirLagz> Mort: not anymore
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[17:44] <Phosie> force turbo does I believe
[17:44] <IT_Sean> If you let it do it dynamically, it doesn't. ...or something
[17:44] <IT_Sean> yeah, forcing it will blow out the OTP bit.
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[17:45] <Mort> OTP bit?
[17:45] <IT_Sean> One Time Programmable.
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[17:45] <IT_Sean> that's how The Foundation know if you've been naughty.
[17:45] <Phosie> "naughty" heh
[17:45] <Mort> can't you change it back? :P
[17:45] <[Saint]> No.
[17:45] <[Saint]> "one time"
[17:46] <IT_Sean> Mort: No.
[17:46] <Phosie> Saint beat me to it.
[17:46] <IT_Sean> hence the "One Time"
[17:46] <Matt> mmm, fuses
[17:46] <IT_Sean> One it's blown, it's blown.
[17:46] <Mort> I wonder where's that thing located.
[17:46] <Matt> Mort: on the die
[17:46] <IT_Sean> It's deep within the bowels of the SoC
[17:46] <Matt> CPU manufacturers use them for all sorts of things
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[17:47] * Matt knows a couple of folks who work for VIA's CPU peeps
[17:47] <[Saint]> its very common in RAM these days too.
[17:47] <[Saint]> Manufacturers want to know if you've adjusted the clocks.
[17:48] <Matt> they were having lots of fun with blowing fuses
[17:48] <Matt> some bright spark wrote the code to blow them concurrently
[17:48] <Matt> and there wasn't enough write current available to do it
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[17:52] <SirLagz> (force_turbo || current_limit_override || temp_limit>85) && over_voltage>0 <-- if your Pi has any of the first 3 parameters set and overvolting, that's when the warranty bit is set now
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[17:53] <b0bbi10> hi
[17:54] <SirLagz> hi
[17:54] <[Saint]> right, that's quite different from "temp == >85C", though.
[17:54] <Phosie> hello
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[17:54] <SirLagz> [Saint]: true. That's why I said temp above 85 and overvolting
[17:54] <[Saint]> no, the temp is irrelevant.
[17:54] <b0bbi10> is there a way to find out the IP address of the rpi using Win7 (with Internet Connection Sharing). don't have the router next to me
[17:54] <[Saint]> its if you set the max temp limit.
[17:54] <[Saint]> not the temp itself.
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[17:55] <SirLagz> ah. you are right.
[17:55] <[Saint]> The actual CPU temp is irrelevant.
[17:55] <SirLagz> I misread
[17:55] <[Saint]> You can't adjust the maximum.
[17:55] <[Saint]> *maximum for thermal shutdown
[17:56] <[Saint]> (+ at least two other criteria)
[17:56] <SirLagz> what's current_limit_override ?
[17:57] <[Saint]> allows you to set voltage higher than 8 or whatever it is, iirc.
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[17:57] <SirLagz> ah I see
[17:58] <SirLagz> obviously I don't overclock. lol
[17:58] <[Saint]> b0bbi10: ssh in and check ifconfig?
[17:58] <[Saint]> oh, hahaha...derp.
[17:58] <SirLagz> lol [Saint]
[17:58] <b0bbi10> [Saint]: can't ssh because I don't have the IP
[17:59] * [Saint] puts that little mishap down to it being 4am.
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[17:59] <SirLagz> go to sleep then :P...or get up depending on which direction you're heading
[17:59] <IT_Sean> lol
[18:00] <hifi> hello SirLagz, did you end up testing usb root support?
[18:01] <SirLagz> about to do it now hifi
[18:01] <[Saint]> wait...if its sharing the connection, won't it just be "host_IP+1"?
[18:01] <hifi> cool
[18:01] <SirLagz> trying to get my RaspAP WiFi router up and running again
[18:01] <SirLagz> the ethernet extender seems to have crapped itself
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[18:03] <SirLagz> quick question....dhcp broadcasts...that's over tcp right ?
[18:04] <hifi> udp
[18:04] <SirLagz> thanks
[18:04] <hifi> or might even be icmp
[18:04] <hifi> nope, udp
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[18:05] <hifi> don't know if icmp even have broadcasting
[18:05] <SirLagz> hmm...the network lights are lighting up on the Pi but it's not getting an IP address
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[18:06] <hifi> the raspbian-ua-netinst image is not getting an ip?
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[18:07] <SirLagz> hifi: nah, this is the other Pi that I'm trying to get working
[18:07] <hifi> ok, was just worried I broke something
[18:07] <SirLagz> haha nah
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[18:07] <SirLagz> i think it's my Pi that's brokened
[18:07] <hifi> it's nerve wrecking to do those releases even though there aren't many users
[18:07] <SirLagz> haha
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[18:07] <SirLagz> just in case you broke something ?
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[18:08] <hifi> have to always test the plain install if I add new features just to be sure even if what I did shouldn't affect normal install I might've still typoed something
[18:08] <SirLagz> that's why I script everything haah
[18:09] <SirLagz> grr. stupid ethernet extender
[18:09] <SirLagz> was working fine before =/
[18:09] <hifi> maybe raspbian-ua-netinst magically fixes it!
[18:09] <hifi> or not
[18:09] <SirLagz> haha
[18:09] <SirLagz> i think this could be a hardware issue....not happy !
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[18:16] <SirLagz> *sigh*
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[18:16] <SirLagz> hmm
[18:16] <SirLagz> maybe I'll use my other Pi as my router then...
[18:17] <johnc-> why would you use a device with slow network speeds as a router?
[18:17] <megaproxy> ^
[18:17] <SirLagz> because it's wifi and wifi isn't very fast anyway
[18:18] <hifi> dsl routers don't pass that much traffic
[18:18] <SirLagz> plus it's for my mobile phone
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[18:18] <SirLagz> which isn't going to need ultra-super-dooper fast speed
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[18:18] <megaproxy> my home internet is 120meg
[18:18] * megaproxy needs wires
[18:19] <SirLagz> well lucky you :P
[18:19] <megaproxy> ikr :D
[18:19] * nmpro needs megaproxy inet speeds
[18:19] <nmpro> well.,. wants.. really..
[18:19] <nmpro> lol
[18:19] <megaproxy> need is correct
[18:19] <megaproxy> you need fast internet :D
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[18:19] <johnc-> I'm on 50Mbps currently
[18:20] <johnc-> ISP offers up to 150Mbps I think
[18:20] <megaproxy> virgin?
[18:20] <nmpro> I'm on 12Mbps .. :(
[18:20] <johnc-> no, I have a wife
[18:20] <megaproxy> lul
[18:20] <nmpro> lol
[18:20] <johnc-> american cable ISP
[18:20] <megaproxy> ah
[18:20] <megaproxy> there is a isp in UK that now offers 1gbps
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[18:20] <megaproxy> only in very select areas though :(
[18:21] <johnc-> I'm shocked
[18:21] <megaproxy> i registered my interest haha
[18:21] <johnc-> I never got off 56k while I was in the UK
[18:21] <johnc-> BT never rolled out ADSL to my area before I moved
[18:21] <megaproxy> BT are useless
[18:21] <SirLagz> lol..
[18:21] <SirLagz> I'm on 10Mbps
[18:21] <SirLagz> good ol Australian internet
[18:22] <SirLagz> and that's 10Mbps on a good day
[18:22] <megaproxy> your fiber is made of spider silk out there right?
[18:22] <megaproxy> or snake venom
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[18:22] <SirLagz> lol. fiber ? I think you mean the green copper :P
[18:22] <megaproxy> haha
[18:22] <SirLagz> which is made outta dog crap.
[18:22] <megaproxy> mmm nice
[18:22] <johnc-> it's woven on a loom out of funnel web spider butts
[18:22] <nmpro> lol.. green copper.. nice
[18:22] <SirLagz> every time it rains, my speed drops drastically
[18:23] <nmpro> what part of aussie you near SirLagz?
[18:23] <SirLagz> Perth
[18:23] <SirLagz> Middle of almost
[18:23] <johnc-> that's because every other australian with internet is googling el nino out of fear each time it rains
[18:24] <johnc-> hmm, I wonder where to get a live feed of weather alerts for free
[18:24] <nmpro> nice.. I toured the east coast Cains to Melbourne.. I love Australia.. very pretty country ..
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[18:24] <SirLagz> nmpro: East coast is much more fun than west coast lol
[18:24] <SirLagz> though it is still very pretty here
[18:25] <nmpro> SirLagz, yeah.. isn't the west coast kind of desolate?
[18:25] <SirLagz> hahaha
[18:25] <SirLagz> yep
[18:25] <nmpro> lol
[18:25] <SirLagz> except for Perth
[18:25] <SirLagz> but we're backwater instead.
[18:25] <SirLagz> 7 day trading ? we only just got that. this yaer.
[18:25] <nmpro> haha..
[18:26] <SirLagz> Western Australia. WA. Wait Awhile.
[18:26] <nmpro> haha
[18:26] <SirLagz> dammit, where did that fake HTC charger go =
[18:26] <SirLagz> =/
[18:27] <nmpro> 7 day trading? are you talking about the stock market?
[18:27] <SirLagz> no. as in shops being open on a sunday
[18:27] <nmpro> lol.. omg.. really?
[18:27] <SirLagz> bahahahahahahaha. yes.
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[18:28] <SirLagz> couldn't get groceries on sunday until earlier this year I think it was
[18:28] <nmpro> Do you guys have a hunger jacks?
[18:28] <nmpro> hungry
[18:28] <SirLagz> yep
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[18:29] <Phosie> mmmm food...
[18:29] <nmpro> lol.. to cool. When I was there.. I saw that place.. and I was like.. the looks alot like Burger King in the states.. lol
[18:29] <SirLagz> hahaha
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[18:29] <SirLagz> it *is* burger king
[18:29] <SirLagz> after a fight with some company over in Oz
[18:30] <nmpro> lol
[18:30] <SirLagz> *sigh* why can I never find my stuff when I need it
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[18:31] <nmpro> though I'll never understand what's soo good about vegemite .. ;)
[18:31] <[Saint]> Nothing.
[18:31] <SirLagz> it's an acquired taste...
[18:31] <[Saint]> Marmite's where its at.
[18:32] <nmpro> very true.. acquired...
[18:32] <nmpro> lol
[18:32] <nmpro> what's marmite?
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[18:32] <[Saint]> Better Vegemite. :)
[18:32] <Phosie> The best spread ever.
[18:32] <nmpro> lol
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[18:32] * ChanServ sets mode +o Davespice
[18:32] <nmpro> I'll have to order some and give it a try. lol
[18:33] <Phosie> You will either love it, or hate it.
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[18:33] * [Saint] wnders why there's no official jessie image yet.
[18:33] <Phosie> If you hate it, send it to me.
[18:33] <nmpro> lol.. ok, phosie.. deal.. haha
[18:33] <[Saint]> I can make my own...but, urgh, effort.
[18:33] <[Saint]> I may just pillage hifi's UA setup and let that do it for me.
[18:34] <Phosie> Send it to me, can't have a neglected jar in your kitchen.
[18:34] <hifi> [Saint]: yes, there is official jessie support
[18:34] <hifi> in UA I mean
[18:35] <[Saint]> one assumes I would just need to pass "jessie" instead of "wheezy" in the configure script.
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[18:35] <SirLagz> I've made my own jessie image lol
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[18:35] <[Saint]> I made one a while ago, but...I seem to have misplaced it.
[18:35] <hifi> [Saint]: yes, you can just do that
[18:35] <[Saint]> these damn uSD cards are too small.
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[18:36] <[Saint]> The only good part about losing them, is that I swear the breed in the wild.
[18:36] <Dooley> good evening
[18:36] <[Saint]> You lose a few, and then you find like three of them under the couch a year later.
[18:36] <[Saint]> During the annual uSD card migration.
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[18:37] <[Saint]> They travel back to their breeding grounds.
[18:37] <Phosie> Hah
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[18:38] * IT_Sean makes a mental note to look under his sofa for SD cards when he gets home tonight
[18:38] <SirLagz> lol [Saint]
[18:39] <SirLagz> I'm still waiting for mine to come out of hibernation from under the bed then haha
[18:39] <SirLagz> damn ethernet extender is buggered on my PiSU =/
[18:39] <SirLagz> bastard.
[18:39] <hifi> I even wrestled with plugwash for a while to get jessie support without hacks
[18:39] <hifi> turkish oil wrestling with lots of oil
[18:41] * cccy_RegeaneWolf is now known as cccyRegeaneWolfe
[18:42] <SirLagz> hifi: I don't think I'll be able to test the net installer tonight =/ sorry
[18:42] <SirLagz> the ethernet extender on my PiSU has buggered up so It can't connect via ethernet lol
[18:42] <[Saint]> hmmm...
[18:42] <SirLagz> hmm...?
[18:43] <[Saint]> I assume I can adjust the initial config to force it to boost during the setup procedure?
[18:43] <[Saint]> re: UA
[18:43] <[Saint]> Aha, yes, seems I can.
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[18:43] <hifi> boost?
[18:46] <[Saint]> Hum, nope, the boost for N seconds during boot thingo isn;t what I want. I guess I could just force the cpu to 1GHz/performance and then set it back with postinstall.
[18:46] <hifi> oh, you want to overclock it for install?
[18:47] <hifi> then add config.txt that does that, no?
[18:47] <hifi> doesn't the cpu governor then auto-adjust it
[18:47] <hifi> that isn't really necessary though
[18:47] <hifi> the pi waits for the sd card mostly
[18:47] <[Saint]> my sdcards are pretty quick.
[18:48] <[Saint]> better be, for the price. :)
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[18:48] <hifi> would be interesting to get some install speed comparisons
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[18:48] <hifi> without overclocking and with overclocking
[18:48] * cccyRegeaneWolfe is now known as cccy_RegeaneWolf
[18:48] <hifi> if it makes a meaningful difference
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[18:52] <[Saint]> uuuurgh. forgot adblockplus.
[18:52] <[Saint]> It is amazing how little some blatant scams try.
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[18:53] <[Saint]> My Internet Explorer may be compromised, I'd better run this free scan!
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[18:53] <[Saint]> ...its Chrome, on Android.
[18:53] <IT_Sean> [Saint]: i assure you, there are dingleberries out there that would fall for it
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[18:54] <SirLagz> haha
[18:54] <SirLagz> yeah...an aquaintance of mine got scammed
[18:54] <hifi> it's actually quite annoying to install software for windows
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[18:55] <SirLagz> got a popup saying he was being investigated by Australia Federal Police, had to pay a "fine" to unlock his computer...
[18:55] <hifi> I googled for joy2key as I wanted to use a gamepad in one game, the first hit seemed a legit project page, download, install, malware \o/
[18:55] <IT_Sean> he didn't... did he?
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[18:55] <SirLagz> IT_Sean: yes...yes he did.
[18:55] <IT_Sean> >_<
[18:55] <SirLagz> indeed.
[18:55] <hifi> instead I could just apt-get install or yum install on linux without googling for random software and getting malware -_-
[18:55] <SirLagz> brb. zip-tieing a USB hub to my Pi
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[18:56] <nmpro> zip ties.. awesome..
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[18:57] <SirLagz> you know it.
[18:57] <SirLagz> it's either that or double sided tape.
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[18:59] <megaproxy> velcro ftw
[18:59] <megaproxy> in all cases :D
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[18:59] <megaproxy> cable management? Velcro
[18:59] <megaproxy> going to the moon? Velcro
[18:59] <SirLagz> I don't have velcro :P
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[18:59] <megaproxy> :O
[18:59] <megaproxy> how can one not own some velcro
[18:59] <SirLagz> I've got plenty of zip ties though
[18:59] <megaproxy> buy a roll of it ;D
[19:00] <SirLagz> lol
[19:00] <SirLagz> I had some
[19:00] <SirLagz> dunno where it went
[19:00] <SirLagz> I got a whole tube of zipties though
[19:00] <SirLagz> I use them to fix my car when bits fall off it
[19:00] <Phosie> I've never owned velcro
[19:00] <Phosie> Don't think I've ever bought zip ties either.
[19:01] <megaproxy> ugh cars, my car is falling apart
[19:01] <megaproxy> it self changes its oil now
[19:01] <megaproxy> by dumping it EVERYWHERE
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[19:01] <megaproxy> so i just have to fill it up
[19:01] <SirLagz> haha
[19:01] <Phosie> My car sounds like a diesel van
[19:01] <SirLagz> yeah my car was falling apart...until I zip tied it together
[19:01] <IT_Sean> >_<
[19:01] <IT_Sean> Zipties are the devil's auto repair medium
[19:02] <megaproxy> i need to get myself a compression tester
[19:02] <SirLagz> or poor mans saviour.
[19:02] <megaproxy> zipties are devil for everything
[19:02] <IT_Sean> and on that, i will be back in a bit
[19:02] <SirLagz> megaproxy: if you were in Perth I'd lend you mine lol
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[19:02] <megaproxy> like in datacenters, when people cable manage with zipties
[19:02] <megaproxy> what if i need to remove a cable?
[19:02] <megaproxy> cut all the zips
[19:02] <megaproxy> take it out
[19:02] <megaproxy> rezip
[19:02] <megaproxy> such a pita
[19:02] <Phosie> You can undo zip ties
[19:03] <SirLagz> not when it's crammed into the corner of a rack you cant
[19:03] <megaproxy> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F69KUNCNyjo
[19:04] <megaproxy> Phosie: if you buy the ones with release
[19:04] <megaproxy> and they tend to be fatter
[19:04] * megaproxy finds pic of cables ive done
[19:04] <[Saint]> you can undo any zip tie.
[19:04] <[Saint]> precision flathead driver, bam, undone.
[19:04] <megaproxy> http://i.imgur.com/m3q3DoP.jpg
[19:04] <Phosie> I have a pin
[19:04] <megaproxy> [Saint]: try doing that in a rack
[19:05] <Phosie> or use a pin rather
[19:05] <megaproxy> with no room to move things round
[19:05] <[Saint]> I have. :)
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[19:05] <[Saint]> Many, many times.
[19:05] <megaproxy> well, fair enough. your more successful at that than i am evidently
[19:05] <megaproxy> i raged and cut it
[19:05] <megaproxy> then used velco
[19:05] <megaproxy> ro
[19:05] <megaproxy> i love our orange PDU's
[19:05] <megaproxy> they look so good when walking around the DC
[19:06] <linuxstb> megaproxy: That's a lot of 750W power supplies...
[19:09] <megaproxy> a lot of dell r620's
[19:09] <megaproxy> everything is redundant
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[19:09] <SirLagz> redundancy is overrated
[19:10] <megaproxy> lol, say that when a pdu blows up and a cluster goes down that hosts 100k websites
[19:10] <megaproxy> that would be terrible
[19:11] <SirLagz> customers are overrated.
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[19:12] <megaproxy> thats true
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[19:13] <SirLagz> I've now zip-tied a USB hub to my Pi.
[19:13] <SirLagz> powered hub
[19:13] <SirLagz> mmm. convenience
[19:14] <SirLagz> and now my Pi looks ridiculous with this giant antenna hanging off it's WiFi adapter
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[19:14] <megaproxy> haha
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[19:14] <megaproxy> anyone know if the tp-lin tl-wn725n works with pi?
[19:15] <nmpro> SirLagz would have to drive hours for velcro.. lol ;-)
[19:15] <SirLagz> bahahahaha
[19:16] <nmpro> lol
[19:16] <SirLagz> *sigh* people that ask for things without thinking annoy me.
[19:16] <megaproxy> i ask coz its convenient
[19:16] <megaproxy> i could google, but thats like, 2 mouse clicks
[19:16] <SirLagz> lol
[19:17] <SirLagz> depends on what you're asking about :P
[19:17] <nmpro> I have to agree with megaproxy on this.. I much rather ask someone that google it myself.. lol
[19:17] <megaproxy> http://blog.pi3g.com/2013/05/tp-link-tl-wn725n-nano-wifi-adapter-v2-0-raspberry-pi-driver/
[19:17] <megaproxy> seems it does work
[19:17] <megaproxy> yea, i like the feedback
[19:17] <megaproxy> rather than just reading a page, its nice to have someone talking about it
[19:17] <SirLagz> i agree with that
[19:17] <nmpro> yep.. I agree
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[19:18] <SirLagz> it's all subject specific
[19:18] <megaproxy> looks like you have to use the wifi with a powered hub (annoying)
[19:18] <megaproxy> but it does work..
[19:18] <SirLagz> I'm much the same, I'd rather ask if it's something really really simple or complex
[19:18] * megaproxy accidently pockets this wifi dongle
[19:18] <SirLagz> really really simple as in one word answer
[19:18] <SirLagz> lol
[19:19] <SirLagz> I've got all RT5370s here
[19:19] <SirLagz> all work without a powered hub, just don't plug it in with the Pi on
[19:19] <megaproxy> i dont really know why id need wifi tbh..
[19:19] <megaproxy> its a dashcam.
[19:19] <megaproxy> i need the odb reader more..
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[19:20] <SirLagz> wireless sync it to your phone for evidence ? lol
[19:20] <megaproxy> i just pull the sd card out when i get home
[19:20] <SirLagz> i wish my car had an OBD port lol
[19:20] <megaproxy> it doesnt? How old is your car?!
[19:20] <SirLagz> 20 years haha
[19:20] <megaproxy> ohmy
[19:20] <megaproxy> does it even have electronics hah
[19:20] <SirLagz> haha yeah that it does
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[19:21] <nmpro> lol.. yeah .. it's called a AM/FM radio
[19:21] <nmpro> lol
[19:21] <nmpro> ahaa
[19:21] <SirLagz> ebay spec am/fm radio thank you very much.
[19:21] <megaproxy> my car: http://i.imgur.com/Refb8.jpg
[19:21] <megaproxy> (iwish)
[19:21] <nmpro> right
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[19:21] <SirLagz> hahahah
[19:21] <megaproxy> this is mine: http://i.imgur.com/DUuEg.jpg
[19:21] <doc-saintly> I have a raspberry PI, I put wheezy on it, and it's responding to pings. Why can't I SSH into it? I read it was enabled by default
[19:21] <SirLagz> https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-1YPFbAwX6pI/UKNB5Zot_-I/AAAAAAAAALs/d-_uYJzn4NM/s640/IMAG0138.jpg <-- mine
[19:21] <nmpro> wow.. even the hub caps thinys are lined up on that car
[19:22] <megaproxy> alloys
[19:22] <megaproxy> doc-saintly: whats the error? Timeout?
[19:22] <nmpro> all 3 of those cars seem to be using the same building as a back drop.. haha
[19:22] <doc-saintly> megaproxy: connection refused
[19:22] <SirLagz> hahaha
[19:23] <megaproxy> doc-saintly: are you using the correct port
[19:23] <doc-saintly> megaproxy: 22?
[19:23] <megaproxy> by default yes
[19:23] <SirLagz> except for the fact that the building seems to span the world lol
[19:23] <nmpro> yep..
[19:23] <megaproxy> SSH on the same network? Or externally
[19:23] <doc-saintly> megaproxy: Same network, sitting next to me
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[19:23] <doc-saintly> Unfortunately I don't have a monitor to plugin to see what's going on
[19:23] <megaproxy> hm
[19:23] <doc-saintly> megaproxy: I didn't change anything from the image I downloaded either.
[19:24] <SirLagz> which image did you download doc-saintly ?
[19:24] <nmpro> doc-saintly, hard to trouble shoot w/ monitor
[19:24] <megaproxy> try port 23
[19:24] <megaproxy> idk why, just try :D
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[19:25] <SirLagz> hmmm...there's a WPS protected network near by
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[19:28] <SirLagz> grr hungry =/
[19:28] <megaproxy> i should probably head home
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[19:29] <SirLagz> i think one of my wifi sticks has died =/
[19:29] <SirLagz> it's burning hot =/
[19:30] <doc-saintly> megaproxy: no dice
[19:30] <doc-saintly> megaproxy: any other ideaS? :(
[19:30] <megaproxy> doc-saintly: your going to need to plug a screen in
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[19:30] <megaproxy> then check the ssh configs
[19:30] <megaproxy> clear iptables
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[19:30] <doc-saintly> :\ not really an option. bummer. I have a displaylink screen (USB) but it doesn't come with the drivers
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[19:31] <megaproxy> no tv with hdmi?
[19:31] <megaproxy> is this a fresh image btw?
[19:31] <doc-saintly> megaproxy: nope, I'm sitting in a hotel room in China with two laptops, a displayport screen, and a raspberry pi.
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[19:31] <doc-saintly> megaproxy: yea, just downloaded it
[19:31] <doc-saintly> megaproxy: and a router
[19:31] <megaproxy> hhhhhmmmmmm
[19:31] <megaproxy> the router could be blocking the connection i guess
[19:31] <SirLagz> is there a tv in the hotel room ?
[19:32] <megaproxy> IT_Sean: any ideas about SSH connection refused error on a fresh image
[19:32] <megaproxy> default ports etc
[19:32] <doc-saintly> SirLagz: it's china :) it's an old CRT
[19:32] <doc-saintly> megaproxy: but then wouldn't it block the ping as well?
[19:32] <megaproxy> well... youd think so
[19:32] <SirLagz> go downstairs to teh local corner shop and buy a composite av cord lol
[19:32] <megaproxy> but it could be a port thing
[19:32] <doc-saintly> megaproxy: I can Ssh out to other ones as well
[19:32] <megaproxy> ah
[19:32] <megaproxy> ok scrap that then
[19:32] <megaproxy> errrrm
[19:32] <megaproxy> reimage it :D?
[19:32] <doc-saintly> SirLagz: heh, yea, I COULD go get a screen too, but I dunno, I guess i thought this is a rapsberry pi :P
[19:32] <megaproxy> if in doubt, format
[19:33] <doc-saintly> megaproxy: ok, I did run the image writer without formatting again after doing the NOOBS one
[19:33] <SirLagz> doc-saintly: well if we don't know what it's doing then it's a bit harder haha
[19:33] <doc-saintly> megaproxy: on sec.
[19:33] <SirLagz> id either reflash it or grab an av cord so you can at least make sure it's booting up to the stage where ssh starts
[19:33] <doc-saintly> SirLagz: yea, but this is a raspberry pi we're talking about! You can use it to have your dryer send you a text message, or make your toaster feel love...
[19:34] <SirLagz> yes yes it can do all that...AFTER it boots :P
[19:34] <doc-saintly> lmao
[19:34] <SirLagz> i suspect it's not even booting properly
[19:34] <doc-saintly> i'll reformat and reimage.
[19:34] <doc-saintly> SirLagz: then it wouldn't respond to ping, right?
[19:34] <SirLagz> nope
[19:34] <SirLagz> well
[19:34] <SirLagz> it will
[19:34] <SirLagz> respond
[19:34] <SirLagz> depending on how far along it got
[19:34] <doc-saintly> I see.
[19:34] <doc-saintly> would the lights give any indication?
[19:34] <doc-saintly> they're all on, solid.
[19:34] <SirLagz> no
[19:35] <SirLagz> unfortunately
[19:35] <megaproxy> yea that isnt right
[19:35] <megaproxy> when its booted you should have pwr
[19:35] <megaproxy> and random act
[19:36] <SirLagz> just finished making my Pi into a semi-wifi-repeater :d
[19:36] <SirLagz> :D
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[19:38] <SirLagz> now i need to obtain or repair a ethernet extender for my other pi :(
[19:38] <IT_Sean> a semi wifi repeater? It's either a repeater or it isn't
[19:38] <SirLagz> lol
[19:38] <SirLagz> technically a wifi router then
[19:39] <SirLagz> reroutes my wifi to another wifi netwrok
[19:40] <SirLagz> oh hey look at that...i just found a random usb wifi stick in a box lol
[19:41] <asaru> sirlagz
[19:41] <SirLagz> yes ?
[19:42] <asaru> you do that raspbian server edition no?
[19:42] <SirLagz> yep
[19:42] <SirLagz> thats me
[19:42] <asaru> i grabbed that latest one a couple days ago
[19:42] <SirLagz> does it work ?
[19:42] <asaru> i dont know if you are aware, but it didnt ahve any ssh keys
[19:42] <SirLagz> yep
[19:42] <SirLagz> generate your own
[19:42] <SirLagz> for security
[19:42] <asaru> i was expecting to be able to do a headless install
[19:42] <SirLagz> otherwise everyone that downloaded RSE would have the same keys
[19:42] <SirLagz> ah...
[19:42] <asaru> well sure but temp keys are fine for your first ssh
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[19:43] <hifi> for headless, raspbian-ua-netinst
[19:43] <SirLagz> lol...you got a point there
[19:43] <asaru> personally i'd rather have them so i dont need a monitor, but i get your point
[19:43] <asaru> other than that, yes it works flawlessly, thanks :)
[19:43] <SirLagz> i'll make it auto-generate-new-keys-if-none-are-present thing for the next release
[19:43] <asaru> there you go
[19:44] <asaru> simple shell script to run on first boot
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[19:44] <SirLagz> i was worried about the masses of people that would be getting RSE and not generating new keys lol
[19:44] <asaru> bah, its their own fault if they dont generate new ones :P
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[19:44] <hifi> raspbian-ua-netinst woo \o/
[19:44] <SirLagz> yes. *we* know that...lol
[19:44] <asaru> i dont know what that is
[19:44] <SirLagz> hifi: I swear I'll try it out one days soon
[19:45] <hifi> lol
[19:45] <hifi> asaru: https://github.com/hifi/raspbian-ua-netinst
[19:45] <SirLagz> once i fix up my PiSU
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[19:45] <SirLagz> need to figure out why it won't get an IP address =/
[19:45] <hifi> I need more aggressive advertising
[19:45] <hifi> half naked chicks usually provide good results
[19:46] <IT_Sean> hwa!?
[19:46] <IT_Sean> half naked chicks?
[19:46] <IT_Sean> where!?
[19:46] * IT_Sean looks around
[19:46] <SirLagz> hahahahaha
[19:46] <asaru> clever
[19:46] <hifi> raspbian-ua-netinst, now with half naked chicks on first boot!
[19:46] <hifi> <insert ascii art here>
[19:47] <asaru> boot time splash screen is some half naked chick rubbing raspberry pie all over herself
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[19:48] <hifi> that would be quite disturbing
[19:48] <hifi> the innocent pi
[19:48] <l_r> how many zillions of pis have been sold?
[19:49] <[Saint]> 3.14159265359
[19:50] <[Saint]> ...see what I did there?
[19:50] <[Saint]> :)
[19:50] <l_r> yes
[19:50] <gordonDrogon> of-course there are Pi seconds in a nanocentury.
[19:50] <IT_Sean> I dunno about zillions.
[19:51] <IT_Sean> asaru: oookay, dial it back a bit...
[19:52] <asaru> lol
[19:52] <asaru> zillions arent real numbers
[19:52] <davor> hm, I need a project until my IR receiver and gas sensor arrive
[19:53] <SirLagz> well. I'm off for the night. G'Night !
[19:53] <hifi> gn
[19:53] <asaru> gn
[19:53] <davor> good night
[19:53] <asaru> thanks again for rse, it was exactly what i was lookin for
[19:54] <hifi> but, but, but, raspbian-ua-netinst is better!
[19:54] <asaru> is it smaller as base server with ftpd/sshd/lighttpd?
[19:54] <hifi> yes, but I was being a little sarcastic though
[19:55] <asaru> i might try it on another pi
[19:55] <hifi> he has done a good job with the rse
[19:55] <hifi> and I was very late in the game
[19:55] <asaru> yeah
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[19:55] <asaru> but your installer can do full fledged desktop systems too
[19:55] <asaru> not just for servers
[19:55] <hifi> technically, yes
[19:55] <hifi> I havne't tried so though
[19:56] <asaru> i see
[19:56] <asaru> how different is it from typical debian netinst
[19:56] <hifi> shouldn't be much, except might be a bit smaller than typical debian netinst
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[19:56] <asaru> well sure
[19:57] <asaru> i just meant like, the feel
[19:57] <asaru> picking packages and all that
[19:57] <hifi> it's barebones, it doesnt install anything unecessary
[19:57] <asaru> aside from the fact that its unattended
[19:57] <asaru> oh
[19:57] <asaru> and if its unattended, how do you pick what you want installed
[19:57] <hifi> pre-select with configuration file
[19:57] <asaru> i see
[19:57] <asaru> thats neat
[19:57] <hifi> it's all explained in the github readme
[19:57] <asaru> yeah i skimmed it
[19:57] <nmpro> gnight SirLagz
[19:58] <hifi> if you want to install the most minimal system you can set it to base and it will even skip networking
[19:58] <hifi> that makes it quite a brick though
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[19:58] <asaru> yeah that seems silly
[19:59] <asaru> need at least sshd
[19:59] <hifi> the default default is to install the minimal networking utilities and vim-tiny
[19:59] <hifi> and sshd of course
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[20:00] <asaru> well im off, time to start my day
[20:00] <asaru> have fun kids
[20:00] <hifi> sure thing
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[20:00] <hifi> converting minimal install people to raspbian-ua-netinst, one person at a time
[20:00] <davor> is there any pi projects blog?
[20:00] <hifi> soon I'll conquer the pi world, soon
[20:00] <davor> that's fairly frequently updated
[20:00] <hifi> davor: raspberrypi.org
[20:01] <davor> ah, thanks hehe
[20:01] <hifi> it's a blog, and they blog about projects very frequently
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[20:03] <davor> I see
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[20:03] <davor> ooh the forum's pretty active too
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[20:06] <rcombs> what's the maximum H.264 level the Pi can encode? High@4.1?
[20:06] <rcombs> (same question for decoding, but I *think* I've tested it with a High@4.1 video in OMXPlayer at some point)
[20:07] <Encrypt> It depends on whether you overclock it to 2.4GHz :p
[20:08] <rcombs> <_< the encoder's a separate bit of hardware
[20:08] <rcombs> well, it's on the same chip
[20:08] <rcombs> but it shouldn't be affected by the CPU clock, and also 2.4GHz sounds insane
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[20:13] <Encrypt> rcombs, http://www.overclock.net/t/1404207/extreme-cooled-raspberry-pi =D
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[20:16] <rcombs> that is *insanel*
[20:16] <rcombs> s/l//
[20:16] <Encrypt> Completely ;)
[20:16] * rcombs can type
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[20:19] <davor> woah
[20:19] <davor> 2.4 GHz, that's insane
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[20:20] <Encrypt> :p
[20:22] <davor> Encrypt, is that your doing?
[20:22] <Encrypt> Nope :p
[20:22] <Encrypt> Definitely not
[20:23] <davor> ah hehe, I sort of want to meet the mad man :P
[20:23] <Encrypt> I'm even underclocking my Raspberry Pi and it has a PiHolder Case :D
[20:23] <davor> hehe
[20:23] <hifi> but underclocking has no advantages...
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[20:23] <Encrypt> 32°C "hot" under 20°C room temperature :p
[20:23] <Encrypt> Amazing the PiHolder Case \o/
[20:24] <Encrypt> <hifi> but underclocking has no advantages... // Right, but it's fun :p
[20:24] <rcombs> stability under high load; thermal advantages
[20:24] <doc-saintly> Still getting connection refused :(
[20:24] <rcombs> energy consumption
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[20:25] <Encrypt> rcombs, Are you talking about the PiHolder Case?
[20:25] <rcombs> Encrypt: no, underclocking
[20:25] <Encrypt> Do you believe underclocking does all these things?
[20:25] <rcombs> I'm just listing general purposes of underclocking
[20:25] <rcombs> it can, depending on your circumstances
[20:25] <hifi> with pi you don't even save any power
[20:25] <Encrypt> Because I couldn't see any thermal real difference when I underclocked it
[20:26] <Encrypt> I think hifi is right
[20:26] <hifi> I haven't done the tests, someone on the forums did
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[20:26] <davor> hm, I'd like to ask about Zappa album recommendations, albums with songs like xy, but mentioning the songs' names would probably get me banned :p
[20:26] <Encrypt> But know that I've set it like this... I'll let it like this :p
[20:27] <Encrypt> now*
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[20:36] <davor> oh in other news, I ate most of that spaghetti sauce
[20:37] <IT_Sean> O_o
[20:37] <davor> I made a fair amount of pasta so I just ate pasta with extra plenty sauce
[20:37] <davor> and will eat a bit now too
[20:37] <davor> I made 4L of spaghetti sauce yesterday IT_Sean
[20:37] <IT_Sean> O_O
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[20:37] <IT_Sean> That is a LOT of sauce
[20:37] <davor> ...for myself
[20:37] <davor> yep
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[20:37] <IT_Sean> why... why would you make so much?
[20:37] <davor> ate a massive bowl yesterday, and today
[20:38] <davor> it's the first meal I've ever cooked
[20:38] <davor> well, second, but I don't talk about the first one
[20:38] <davor> something was bound to go wrong
[20:38] <davor> hehe
[20:38] <davor> it's actually pretty decent sauce even if I do say so myself
[20:38] <davor> so at least it's not a chore eating it :p
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[20:39] <IT_Sean> buy a slow cooker.
[20:39] <IT_Sean> You cannot go wrong with a slow cooker.
[20:40] <IT_Sean> toss abucnha stuff in... leave it for 10 or 11 hours... enjoy.
[20:40] <Encrypt> davor, You could make a spaghetti-sauce-maker playing with the RPi GPIO Pins \o/
[20:40] <IT_Sean> you would need additional supporting hardware to run motors and such
[20:40] <davor> woah hah, interesting
[20:41] <davor> haha, sounds fun
[20:41] <davor> but I cannot trust a machine to add my secret ingredient
[20:41] <IT_Sean> what's your secret ingredient?
[20:41] <davor> LOVE.
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[20:42] <davor> but come to think of it that would be a very fun project
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[20:42] <davor> it'd require a lot of servos and hardware indeed
[20:43] <davor> here it is if anyone's interested https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/12582342/20130807_192001.jpg
[20:43] <davor> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/12582342/20130807_181934.jpg
[20:44] <davor> I don't know why I just posted pictures of my sauce "in case anyone's interested"
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[20:45] <hifi> I don't know if I want to open a picture which description is "my sauce"
[20:45] <davor> hahaha
[20:45] <davor> it's sfw and family friendly obviously :p
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[20:48] <doc-saintly> No other ideas on the SSH issue, other than give up and plug in a screen? ;)
[20:48] <doc-saintly> I have a keyboard, if there's some sort of key combo i need to enter to get things started
[20:48] <Ricksl> use a serial cable.
[20:49] <hifi> doc-saintly: you could also try raspbian-ua-netinst, you should get sshd prompt
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[20:50] <hifi> though the only way to get some indication it is doing something during install is network activity
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[20:54] <Ricksl> so does anyone have any more info on those new "optimized" sd cards they are gonna start shipping with the pi?
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[20:57] <gordonDrogon> optimised?
[20:58] <hifi> the one I've seen is just branded and pre-flashed
[20:58] <hifi> and cheap
[20:59] <Ricksl> i thought they sourced ones with higher random read/writes
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[21:01] <hifi> how would that be anymore optimized than bying a higher grade card?
[21:01] <linuxstb> hifi: http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/4536
[21:02] <Ricksl> I don't know thats why I asked if anyone had any more info on it.
[21:02] <hifi> it just states they have good class 4 cards that happen to be better than most because hitler
[21:02] <Ricksl> because what?
[21:02] <hifi> you've never heard anyone say that?
[21:03] <Ricksl> no
[21:03] <Ricksl> Not once.
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[21:04] <linuxstb> From the comments - "We’re using Samsung MMCTR08G3ACH-QNJMK micro-SD cards in a generic, but beautifully screen printed adapter."
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[21:05] <hifi> Ricksl: it's used when the reason isn't explainable or is something you can't change because someone just decided that way
[21:05] <hifi> thus, the hitler card, trumps everything, always, no excuses
[21:06] <hifi> no offence meant though, it's just a saying
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[21:06] <megaproxy> ayo
[21:07] <davor> oh man!
[21:07] <davor> I found an old AC-DC converter
[21:07] <davor> with variable output voltage
[21:07] <davor> my powered hub has no adapter, but it needs 5V DC input
[21:08] <davor> this adapter can do 4.5 or 6V
[21:08] <davor> darn it
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[21:10] <megaproxy> in 6 days ive downloaded 70gb
[21:10] <megaproxy> :
[21:10] <megaproxy> :O
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[21:12] <davor> oh well, its maximum current is only 1A at 12V, I need 2.1A
[21:12] <davor> at 5V
[21:13] <IT_Sean> megaproxy: what sort of speed do you get?
[21:13] <megaproxy> 13/14mBs
[21:14] <doc-saintly> hifi: can you explain a little more?
[21:14] <IT_Sean> ahh
[21:14] * IT_Sean is on 30 meg down
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[21:14] <megaproxy> doc-saintly, did you get ssh sorted?
[21:15] <doc-saintly> megaproxy: nope, was that assuming it was sorted
[21:15] <hifi> doc-saintly: it probably won't resolve your issue though
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[21:15] <hifi> if none of the pre-installed images flashed to the card won't work
[21:17] <megaproxy> it seems my dashcam script isnt naming files properly
[21:17] <megaproxy> or im being tarded
[21:17] <megaproxy> probably the latter, normally is
[21:17] <mgottschlag> "(21:12:28) davor: oh well, its maximum current is only 1A at 12V, I need 2.1A (21:12:36) davor: at 5V" - that sounds almost doable(12W vs 10.5W)
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[21:18] <mgottschlag> (a bit too little margin though)
[21:19] <megaproxy> how do i set date/time on nix again... ?
[21:19] <megaproxy> date something right?
[21:19] <datasmurf> hi, yes date hh:mm:ss
[21:20] <megaproxy> .
[21:20] <RiXtEr> date YYYY:MM:DD:HH:MM:SS
[21:20] <megaproxy> ah
[21:20] <megaproxy> thanks both :)
[21:20] <megaproxy> invalid date..
[21:20] <megaproxy> hmm
[21:20] <megaproxy> 24 hours?
[21:20] <RiXtEr> megaproxy: date --help
[21:21] <RiXtEr> I think there are no :'s
[21:21] <RiXtEr> so date 201308081421 in my case
[21:21] <megaproxy> still invalid
[21:21] <megaproxy> hrm
[21:22] <megaproxy> ah
[21:22] <megaproxy> no year
[21:22] <megaproxy> date 08082021
[21:22] <RiXtEr> hrm been a while since I have set it...
[21:23] <RiXtEr> date [-u|--utc|--universal] [MMDDhhmm[[CC]YY][.ss]]
[21:23] <megaproxy> yea the pi is saving the videos in random ways
[21:23] <datasmurf> date 1308082100
[21:23] <megaproxy> this makes it fun to get the trip..
[21:23] <megaproxy> what would the [cc] be?
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[21:26] <datasmurf> who runs freebsd9.1 on raspberry? pls tell me what model you own. thx
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[21:27] <megaproxy> hmmm
[21:27] <megaproxy> i think the pi is recording 2 videos at once through the camera module... is that possible?
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[21:28] <Mortvert> Urk
[21:28] <Mortvert> Didn't do a upgrade&update in a long time
[21:28] <davor> mgottschlag, it can't do 5V though, only 4.5 or 6V
[21:28] <Mortvert> This was a bad choice
[21:29] <mgottschlag> davor: ah, I thought about generating 5V from 12V
[21:30] <davor> actually that would probably work, wouldn't it?
[21:30] <davor> if I had a DC-DC converter?
[21:30] <Mortvert> hey Davespice
[21:30] <Mortvert> err, davor
[21:30] <davor> hi Mortvert
[21:30] <davor> I remember you from gs hehe
[21:30] <megaproxy> 3000000
[21:30] <megaproxy> ms = 5 min right?
[21:31] <Mortvert> davor - gs? :3
[21:31] <megaproxy> nope thats 50mins
[21:31] <megaproxy> haha
[21:31] <davor> globalshellz Mortvert :p
[21:31] <Mortvert> ah, that.
[21:31] <davor> yeah I recall seeing your name on the userlist a few times heh
[21:31] <Mortvert> I'm midway fixing up my OS, distracted.
[21:31] <Mortvert> So do i, davor.
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[21:38] <doc-saintly> hifi: the image flashed, it's just I can't get into SSH for some reason. it's responding to Ping. won't be until tomorrow that I can get a cable or do anything about it
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[21:39] <megaproxy> can you telnet the port?
[21:39] <doc-saintly> hrm, let me try
[21:39] <hifi> you can try raspbian-ua-netinst if it brings up sshd properly if you have the time
[21:39] <doc-saintly> connect failed in telnet
[21:39] <doc-saintly> hifi: where do I run that from?
[21:39] <megaproxy> hrm
[21:40] <hifi> doc-saintly: https://github.com/hifi/raspbian-ua-netinst
[21:40] <hifi> it will not give you ssh until it has installed and rebooted, that should take around 15 minutes with fast internet
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[21:45] <Johnathan1707> Got a RPi a while ago, haven't done anything with it yet. Only thing I have I can hook it up to is the TV, but ethernet cable won't reach that far and I don't have a wifi dongle. Could I SSH into it from my MBP and play about with it that way? How do I do that if I can't get it on the network?
[21:45] <IT_Sean> Johnathan1707: SSH works over the network. You will need it on the network to SSH to it. :p
[21:45] <Johnathan1707> If I get an ethernet > USB adapter thing will I be able to connect to it that way, obviously with it still being run offline.
[21:45] <Johnathan1707> IT_Sean: ^
[21:46] <IT_Sean> wait... what?
[21:46] <megaproxy> whats a good movie sticher in windows
[21:46] <IT_Sean> Oh, you mean directly from your MacBook to the raspi?
[21:46] <megaproxy> that isnt windows movie maker
[21:47] <Johnathan1707> @IT_Sean
[21:47] <megaproxy> if you want to go direct without a router
[21:47] <Johnathan1707> yep
[21:47] <megaproxy> you will want a crossover cable
[21:47] <IT_Sean> ^ that
[21:47] <megaproxy> but im not sure how you would set an ip on the pi without a screen
[21:47] <megaproxy> oh wait you said you had a tv
[21:47] <IT_Sean> And you will need some way to assign an IP to the pi
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[21:48] <megaproxy> its easy to make a crossover if you have cables
[21:48] <megaproxy> if not, ebay one they will be pennys
[21:48] <megaproxy> pennies?
[21:48] <megaproxy> i never know what one is right
[21:48] <IT_Sean> ies
[21:48] <megaproxy> if either of them
[21:48] <megaproxy> ah, cool
[21:49] <IT_Sean> And you may not need a xover. Most computers network cards are autosensing
[21:49] <Johnathan1707> megaproxy: Looking that up now
[21:49] <funkster> So what do you all suggest to "somewhat" secure my RPi SDHC card, so someone can't take the card, boot up in single user and get access to my data? Im not trying to secure it for the president, but any thing that would slow down the process of someone getting my data would be idea. This is for a physical product being sold.
[21:49] <IT_Sean> you should be able to use a standard patch cable.
[21:49] <megaproxy> ohrly
[21:49] <IT_Sean> ohrly
[21:49] <IT_Sean> yarly
[21:49] <megaproxy> neatly
[21:49] <megaproxy> someone give me a artist to listen too
[21:49] <megaproxy> need something new
[21:49] <IT_Sean> The Pogues
[21:49] <Johnathan1707> Taylor Swift.
[21:50] * IT_Sean kicks Johnathan1707
[21:50] * megaproxy listens to Dirty old town
[21:50] <megaproxy> i do like google music all access
[21:50] <megaproxy> its nice
[21:50] <megaproxy> ohhhh i know this guy!
[21:50] <IT_Sean> Queue up some Soul Asylum after that.
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[21:55] <mgottschlag> is anybody here who knows the windows api well and can help with a windows programming question?
[21:55] <mgottschlag> I know, this is the wrong channel, but still...
[21:55] <hifi> there's #winapi on freenode for that
[21:55] <IT_Sean> ^
[21:56] <hifi> was going to say there is probably a channel for ponies too but I *know* there is a channel for ponies!
[21:56] <funkster> ponies? where!!!
[21:57] <RiXtEr> megaproxy: %C century; like %Y, except omit last two digits (e.g., 20)
[21:57] <RiXtEr> megaproxy: that is the [CC]
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[21:57] <mgottschlag> hm, didn't know that there is anything related to windows on freenode :)
[21:57] <megaproxy> RiXtEr, aaaaaah
[21:57] <megaproxy> thanks :D
[21:57] <hifi> there's also ##windows for general support and discussion
[21:57] <mgottschlag> well, yes, of course
[21:58] <RiXtEr> megaproxy: don't thank me, thank the man pages ;)
[21:58] <mgottschlag> but ##windows isn't really usable for such questions
[21:58] <mgottschlag> at least that has been my experience
[21:58] <megaproxy> sounds liek the ubuntu chan
[21:58] <megaproxy> ask for help there, expect to be abused
[21:58] <hifi> because #winapi is for windows api programming
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[21:58] <RiXtEr> I used to abuse people in the ubuntu channel... it helped me feed my sick need.
[21:59] <megaproxy> itwasyouuuuu
[21:59] <megaproxy> the guys in there scared me off linux YEARS ago
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[22:01] <megaproxy> Tears in heaven is such a sad song
[22:01] <megaproxy> but i love it
[22:01] <IT_Sean> oO_
[22:01] * IT_Sean backs away from megaproxy
[22:01] <megaproxy> what!
[22:01] <megaproxy> you dont like clapton?
[22:02] <IT_Sean> that track is a bit...
[22:02] <IT_Sean> ... poofy
[22:02] <megaproxy> its horribly sad
[22:02] <megaproxy> son dying etc
[22:02] <megaproxy> lots of story behind it
[22:03] <megaproxy> "The song was written about the pain and loss Clapton felt following the death of his four-year-old son, Conor.[1] Conor fell from a window of the 53rd-floor New York apartment owned by his mother's friend on March 20, 199"
[22:03] <RiXtEr> megaproxy: sorry if it was me ;-) (Normally I'd idle in there and actually HELP people :) )
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[22:03] <megaproxy> i doubt it was you tbh haha
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[22:03] <megaproxy> was AGES ago
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[22:38] <davor> hmm... I can't stick this pot into my breadboard
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[22:38] <davor> well, I can, but only horizontally, that is, so that all the pins are in one row
[22:38] <davor> which is useless
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[22:39] <davor> I just can't shove it in vertically, so that each pin corresponds to one row
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[22:40] <IT_Sean> Got another pot?
[22:40] <davor> yeah, five of them. all the same
[22:41] <IT_Sean> can you bend the legs out slightly, so that it'll fit?
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[22:42] <davor> hm, I don't think so
[22:42] <IT_Sean> Might need a different pot then
[22:42] <davor> it's like the holes on the breadboard are just barely rectangles, instead of squares
[22:42] <davor> and so it just fits one way, but not the other
[22:42] <plugwash> push harder.................
[22:42] <davor> its pins are flat
[22:42] <davor> if I push any harder, I'll break the pins off plugwash
[22:42] * IT_Sean hands davor a hammer
[22:42] <davor> this works https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/12582342/20130808_224005.jpg
[22:43] <nmpro> lol
[22:43] <davor> but it doesn't go in deeper than this, this way https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/12582342/20130808_224026.jpg
[22:43] <nmpro> nice davore
[22:43] <plugwash> use pliers to hold the pins straight and slowly force them in?
[22:43] <davor> nice vocative use nmpro :p
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[22:43] <davor> I'll give it a shot
[22:43] <davor> I think the clamps inside the breadboard are perpendicular to the pins
[22:43] <davor> |-|
[22:44] <davor> the dash being the pin I'm trying to force in
[22:44] <nmpro> lol
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[22:45] <davor> yes!
[22:45] <davor> I have managed to slam it in
[22:45] <davor> probably not getting it out :p
[22:45] <davor> either way this will do nicely for some testing
[22:46] * IT_Sean takes his hammer back from davor
[22:46] <IT_Sean> You are welcome.
[22:46] <plugwash> ahh breadboards
[22:46] * plugwash remembers using some unorthadox methods with them
[22:46] <davor> hehe thanks
[22:46] <plugwash> for example I once used superglue to fit a molex KK header to one
[22:46] <davor> hahaha
[22:47] <IT_Sean> oO_
[22:47] <davor> did that not mess your board up?
[22:47] <davor> melt the plastic a bit and all
[22:47] <plugwash> well I don't think that KK connector is ever coming out of the breadboard in question........
[22:48] <plugwash> the header kept coming out of the breadboard when I tried to disconnect the cable from it, superglue solved that problem
[22:48] <davor> hahaha
[22:48] <davor> at least now you have a somewhat specialised board
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[22:50] <plugwash> yeah, the breadboard in question has an area that is only suitable for discrete components not ICs and I put the header in that area (which I rarely use for much anyway) so it's not a massive loss having a header permanently stuck there
[22:50] <davor> ah hehe
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[23:05] <gordonDrogon> breadboards are cheap these days too.
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[23:43] * nmpro yawns
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[23:45] <PipeDale> Evening :)
[23:45] <PipeDale> i forgot i was here :o
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[23:52] <Phosie> o/
[23:57] <nmpro> lol
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