#raspberrypi IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2013-08-10

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[0:30] <funkster> so im getting error when i try to: apt get install gnome-core.
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[0:30] <funkster> Depends: gnome-shell (>= 3.4) but it is not going to be installed Depends: gnome-sushi (>= 0.4) but it is not going to be installed E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
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[0:33] <plugwash> funkster, can you post your /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[0:34] <funkster> deb http://mirrordirector.raspbian.org/raspbian/ wheezy main contrib non-free rpi
[0:35] <plugwash> did you run apt-get update first?
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[0:37] <funkster> plugwash: yes, i did.
[0:37] <plugwash> can you try aptitude install gnome-core
[0:38] <funkster> ok doing now!
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[0:40] <funkster> plugwash: this seem to be working, its installing. will let you know.
[0:40] <funkster> so whats diff between aptitude and apt-get in regards to installing?
[0:41] <plugwash> aptitude has a more agressive dependency solver, this can sometimes be a good thing but can sometimes cause it to make strange descisions.....
[0:41] <plugwash> In general whatever tool you use I strongly reccomend looking at what it proposes to do (and in particular what if anything it wants to remove) before saying yes
[0:42] <funkster> awesome. well im not even going to use gnome. i have an issue where when i print it delays 20+ seconds, figure out if it has gnome-core the printing is instant, im sure its just one package i need but i cant figure out which
[0:43] <funkster> =(
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[1:41] <Witchsong> I am having issues getting my RPi (running Rasplex) to work with my Onkyo HTX-22HDX. It seems like the HDMI-CEC works, it starts up the Onkyo and my LG TV and it's reported as a device to my TV. But I do not get any display signal.
[1:42] <Witchsong> If I connect it directly to the LG TV, I do get a display signal.
[1:42] <Witchsong> Any ideas what might be going wrong here?
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[1:44] <linuxstb> Witchsong: Are you rebooting after you switch the cables?
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[1:45] <linuxstb> Witchsong: Or rather, if you connect it directly to your TV, then switch the cables without rebooting, do you still get no image?
[1:46] <ricksl> JakeSays you awake?
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[1:48] <Witchsong> linuxstb: No image.
[1:48] <Witchsong> linuxstb: Regardless if I reboot between switching cables.
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[1:50] <linuxstb> Witchsong: Sorry, no idea then.
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[1:51] <Witchsong> linuxstb: http://pastebin.com/6Q8AG6ep
[1:51] <Witchsong> That's my current config.
[1:51] <Witchsong> Anything else I could add into the mix that I might help?
[1:52] <Witchsong> that might help*
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[1:55] <linuxstb> Witchsong: Perhaps take things away? Or did you start with nothing? You could try disabling CEC (I don't know the exact option)
[1:56] <Witchsong> I'll give that a shot.
[1:57] <ShorTie> sure it has video pass thru ??
[1:59] <funkster> so it seems my RPi is hitting a bottle neck on processing the image to print, i overlock it, its faster 10 seconds faster. printing a 300KB jpeg file. do i have any options of speeding the processes up on the same hardware?
[1:59] <ShiftPlusOne> printing as in displaying on the screen?
[2:00] <funkster> printing to a printer.
[2:00] <funkster> using cups
[2:00] <ShiftPlusOne> ah, then no idea.
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[2:02] <Witchsong> It did not work, still no display signal. :(
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[2:04] <funkster> seems when i overclocked RPi no display on hdmi.. shrug
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[2:08] <Witchsong> I tried commenting out all the overrides. Yet no display signal.
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[2:48] <funkster> so it seems my RPi is hitting a bottle neck on processing the image to print on printer, if i overlock it, its 10 seconds faster. printing a 300KB jpeg file. do i have any options of speeding the processes up on the same hardware?
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[2:53] <ShiftPlusOne> funkster, do you know what it's actually doing when it's processing the image? If it's just decoding it, yes, you can speed it up, but you will have to do the coding.
[2:54] <funkster> im not sure what its doing =(
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[2:54] <funkster> what would be the first step to figuring that out?
[2:54] <ShiftPlusOne> Digging through the source code or poking the CUPS folks, I suppose.
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[2:57] <ShiftPlusOne> looks like there is a small unofficial channel that may be able to help ##cups. Then if you get to a stage where you know what's going on, there's a jpeg decode example here. https://github.com/raspberrypi/userland/blob/master/host_applications/linux/apps/hello_pi/hello_jpeg/jpeg.c
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[3:28] <treeherder> gordonDrogon, i need halp lol! i've just started a new sd card, and i was getting everythngrunning with the rpi gpio AVR programmer that you have written up, as well as the modified arduino IDE, etc
[3:29] <treeherder> long story short, when i fire up the ide it gives me trouble about COM1 -- even with rpi GPIO selected as programmer... am i missing something?
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[3:29] <treeherder> sorry if that's a stupid question
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[3:34] <nerdboy> treeherder: not a stupid question, rather windows is stupid about port naming
[3:34] <nerdboy> your usb serial interface can get any name above com4
[3:35] <nerdboy> and it seems to change randomly, so you pretty much always have to check and see what com port windoze assigns
[3:36] <nerdboy> unless you're connecting physically to a real serial port on your machine
[3:36] <nerdboy> if so, then the above doesn't apply to this case
[3:37] <treeherder> ok so the poeoblem is i'm using this in raspian
[3:37] <treeherder> not in windows
[3:38] <treeherder> and using the GPIO as programmer
[3:38] <treeherder> not a USB port at all
[3:39] <nerdboy> so you do have a physical serial port
[3:39] <nerdboy> ie, a db9/db25 connected to a 16550 or equivalent
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[3:49] <treeherder> nerdboy, no it's connected over SPI gpio pins
[3:50] <nerdboy> how does COM1 factor into it?
[3:51] <nerdboy> i'm assuming the other end is connected to *something*
[3:52] <treeherder> no serial involved
[3:52] <treeherder> com1 does not fctor into it
[3:52] <treeherder> hence my confusion
[3:52] <treeherder> i've selected GPIO as a programmer: i shouldn't be hearing about com1
[3:52] <nerdboy> treeherder> [18:30] long story short, when i fire up the ide it gives me trouble about COM1
[3:52] <treeherder> right
[3:52] <nerdboy> isn't that the problem?
[3:53] <treeherder> which is why i am here asking a question
[3:53] <treeherder> why is it giving me trouble about com1 when i am using GPIO as programmer?
[3:53] <RiXtEr> what does that even mean?
[3:53] <nerdboy> you're running this IDE on the pi?
[3:53] <RiXtEr> 'using GPIO as a programmer'
[3:53] <ShiftPlusOne> (provide the error messages)
[3:54] <treeherder> https://projects.drogon.net/raspberry-pi/gertboard/
[3:54] <RiXtEr> General Purpose Input Output? I don't understand what the end goal is here..
[3:54] <treeherder> i'll come paste the error in a minute if somebody has relevant information
[3:54] <treeherder> not "what does that even mean"
[3:54] <nerdboy> i think i'm starting to see a glimpse...
[3:54] <ShiftPlusOne> and yeah, Gordon isn't online at this time usually
[3:54] <treeherder> i'm asking gordonDrogon because he wrote it
[3:54] <treeherder> i know he's a brit he's sleeping
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[3:55] <treeherder> i'm also playing videogames atm
[3:55] <ShiftPlusOne> according to that article, he does use serial though (ttyAMA0)
[3:56] <ShiftPlusOne> Ah I see the SPI part now
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[3:58] <ShiftPlusOne> do you get an error when you run avrsetup?
[3:58] <nerdboy> so the ide config probably has a default serial port of com1
[3:59] <nerdboy> if it were me, i would change it...
[3:59] <ShiftPlusOne> But he says he changed the board and programmer options in the ide
[4:00] <nerdboy> com1 has to be set somewhere, maybe it's hard-coded (but that seems unlikely)
[4:00] <ShiftPlusOne> I guess we need to know if avrsetup worked correctly, what the exact error message is and how the ide is configured.
[4:00] <nerdboy> maybe it's "hidden" in a .ini file or something
[4:01] <ShiftPlusOne> nerdboy, then gordon would have put instructions about how to change that in the article
[4:01] <nerdboy> you would think
[4:02] <ShiftPlusOne> And I trust that he would have if that's the case.
[4:02] <nerdboy> hard to guess without more info
[4:02] <ShiftPlusOne> yup
[4:02] <nerdboy> but com1 is a windoze-ism only
[4:03] <ShiftPlusOne> which is why the context of the error interests me
[4:03] <nerdboy> nobody else uses that terminology but M$
[4:03] <nerdboy> windoze/dos
[4:03] <ring0> windows → :(
[4:05] <nerdboy> now you're making remember weird stuff like 32-bit memory extenders...
[4:06] <nerdboy> "who could ever need more than 640K?"
[4:07] <PhotoJim> heck my VIC-20 runs *great* with 40K :)
[4:07] <nerdboy> C-64, man...
[4:07] <nerdboy> CPM is the shiznitz
[4:08] <Xark> PhotoJim: Hey, a 40KB Vic-20 is a powerhouse. Wasn't the default like 5K? :)
[4:08] <PhotoJim> you need a C-128 if you want to run CP/M, unless you enjoy that monstrosity of a CP/M cartridge.
[4:08] <PhotoJim> Xark: Good memory. Yes. And yes, that is a very well-expanded VIC. :) I actually have two of 'em, and the second one has 37K.
[4:09] <PhotoJim> Xark: the 37K one is 5K plus a single 32kB cartridge, and the other is stock plus 3K, 2x8K and 1x16K
[4:09] <nerdboy> i knew a forgot a / in there somewhere...
[4:10] <nerdboy> that part of my brain must be next to the kegger part
[4:10] <PhotoJim> Must be :)
[4:10] <Xark> PhotoJim: Right on. I started with what was essentially a 4K VIC-20 with B&W video (an Ohio-Scientific Challenger 1P). I eventually expanded to 8K (with 8 1/2K 2114 static RAM chips). :)
[4:11] <PhotoJim> you could do a lot with 8K back then.
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[4:11] <Xark> PhotoJim: I worked a bit on Vic-20 for Sega (Buck Rodgers & Star Trek). However those were for ROM, so you had 8K + RAM. :)
[4:11] <nerdboy> and now we have qt and webkit
[4:11] <nerdboy> that's *way* better...
[4:12] <PhotoJim> Xark: sounds like an interesting set of projects.
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[4:13] <Xark> PhotoJim: Yes, it was interesting (my first professional game dev job). Conversions from arcade games (basically Sega gave us machines on free play and the rest was our company "interpreting" them). I was mostly doing Atari and Apple versions (but shared some common code with Vic-20 etc.).
[4:14] <PhotoJim> Xark: you should come visit #classiccmp. I bet some of the locals would love to talk to you about that.
[4:14] <Xark> Hmm, I was unaware of that channel.
[4:16] <PhotoJim> I hang out in there pretty regularly.
[4:16] <PhotoJim> everything from DEC to Commodore in there.
[4:16] * nerdboy had a summer job once at Cinematronics
[4:16] <nerdboy> on the assembly line actually...
[4:17] <Xark> nerdboy: Awesome. Those were the people doing Star Castle (among other games)?
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[4:17] <nerdboy> yup
[4:17] <nerdboy> i think that's the one i was building
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[4:18] <nerdboy> i always liked space wars the best
[4:18] <nerdboy> played it in the break room every day
[4:18] <Xark> nerdboy: Loved the audio on that game. First thing you would hear at a bar or arcade in the late 70s/80s. :)
[4:18] <nerdboy> pretty much the only part of *that* job i liked...
[4:19] <nerdboy> star castle was after armor attack, right?
[4:20] <nerdboy> still too close that kegger part...
[4:21] <nerdboy> *to
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[4:32] <treeherder> [18:58:16] <ShiftPlusOne> do you get an error when you run avrsetup? no
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[4:36] <treeherder> http://codepad.org/aXxHYMmB here is the relevant error text from arduino IDE
[4:36] <treeherder> nerdboy, ShiftPlusOne gordonDrogon
[4:36] <ShiftPlusOne> I haven't used it myself, so I can't say much, but what are the options in the tools-> serial port menu?
[4:37] <treeherder> none when gpio is selected
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[4:37] <ShiftPlusOne> hrpmh
[4:37] <treeherder> look no need to waste your time guessing right now
[4:37] <treeherder> if you aren't familiar
[4:37] <treeherder> i'm not totally incompetent
[4:37] <ShiftPlusOne> righto
[4:38] <treeherder> in fact i've used this set up many times over the last year, which is why i am so puzzled right now
[4:38] <treeherder> I wonder if it's a version error or a known issue
[4:40] <nerdboy> what's different about the "setup" this time?
[4:41] <nerdboy> and if you have the source, you could grep for COM1 and fix it...
[4:41] <nerdboy> potentially
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[4:42] <treeherder> i do not get that erorr with the gertboard boards selected (but of course that doesn't help me program the uno)
[4:43] <treeherder> it's something to do with gordonDrogon's setup.sh i think
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[4:50] <djapo> whenever i stream video from youtube on xbmc it is slow to buffer even though it is at 1mbps my dongle is 150mbps capable and the ap is set at 60mbps, my other devices don't have this problem
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[4:51] <nerdboy> treeherder: can you paste setup.sh?
[4:51] <djapo> i have tried tcp tunning with sysctl.conf and em about to try udp tunning also but i don't think this is the issue ... my wifi dongle rtl8192cu chipst
[4:51] <treeherder> it's downloadable from that link nerdboy
[4:51] <ShiftPlusOne> nerdboy, http://project-downloads.drogon.net/gertboard/setup.sh
[4:51] <nerdboy> thanks
[4:51] <ShiftPlusOne> treeherder, what are you selecting as the board?
[4:52] <treeherder> http://project-downloads.drogon.net/gertboard/setup.sh
[4:52] <treeherder> trying to use my uno, but there are other options
[4:52] <ShiftPlusOne> I notice that boards.txt uses a different protocol for the gertboard than it does for the uno, and I am guessing that's where the COM1 comes from.
[4:52] <treeherder> i can do a pro mini @ 3.3 tooo
[4:52] <ShiftPlusOne> http://project-downloads.drogon.net/gertboard/boards.txt http://project-downloads.drogon.net/gertboard/programmers.txt seem to be of interest
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[4:53] <ShiftPlusOne> but yeah, I'll shut up.
[4:54] <treeherder> so if i go change all my protocols forma rduino to "gpio"
[4:54] <treeherder> you think that might work?
[4:55] <ShiftPlusOne> no clue, but I'd try it (with caution)
[4:55] <ShiftPlusOne> Really, I'd come back in 14 hours or so and poke Gordon.
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[4:58] <treeherder> i think this might work
[4:58] <treeherder> good eye
[4:59] <treeherder> you know what it was
[4:59] <dagerik> what is the best software tools to grab webcam stream and put on website? motion?
[4:59] <treeherder> i bet you anyhting
[4:59] <treeherder> i wasnt using
[4:59] <treeherder> "uppload using programmer"
[4:59] <treeherder> thats what i was missing
[4:59] <treeherder> im gonna try that
[5:00] <treeherder> i feel so dumb but i knwo thats what it is
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[5:00] <ShiftPlusOne> >_<
[5:00] <treeherder> changing the protocol worked, too
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[5:25] <bigbadben> how do you disable daemons from running at startup
[5:26] <ShiftPlusOne> bigbadben, https://wiki.debian.org/Daemon#Disabling_daemons
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[5:26] <ShiftPlusOne> sudo update-rc.d <daemon> disable
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[5:27] <bigbadben> Yeah I came across that in my google search but I ran into so many "/etc/init.d/ XX.overide" type things for ubuntu I did not know which was correct
[5:28] <bigbadben> Yeah I came across that in my google search but I ran into so many "/etc/init.d/ XX.overide" type things for ubuntu I did not know which was correct
[5:28] <bigbadben> Does this channel get lots of action?
[5:29] <ShiftPlusOne> at certain times
[5:29] <ShiftPlusOne> when UK is awake
[5:29] <ShiftPlusOne> or when someone starts talking about food
[5:30] <bigbadben> Lol so who has the most original use for their pi in here then
[5:31] * ShiftPlusOne shrugs
[5:32] <ShiftPlusOne> This squirrelcam is one http://www.ustream.tv/channel/birdie-breakfast-buffet
[5:33] <bigbadben> is that a squirrel in a cage?
[5:33] <ShiftPlusOne> nope
[5:33] <nerdboy> is there a -f option on the deb version?
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[5:33] <bigbadben> nerdboy, a -f for what
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[5:34] <nerdboy> update-rc.d
[5:34] <nerdboy> on oe it would be "-f <name> remove
[5:34] <bigbadben> -n -f name remove
[5:34] <nerdboy> no override required...
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[5:35] <nerdboy> technically the default distro is "poky" but it's kind of a debian lite
[5:36] <bigbadben> Now one thing that confuses me is that we cant run x86 x64 but we run compiled apt-get packages can someone explain a little more about that
[5:37] <bigbadben> are all our apt-get packages compiled for arm?
[5:38] <ShiftPlusOne> bigbadben, yup
[5:38] <bigbadben> so there is a chance that ubuntu might have a package we dont?
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[5:39] <ShiftPlusOne> no, ubunut's arm packages are compiled for a different, incompatible version of arm.
[5:39] <ShiftPlusOne> Which packages are you talking about?
[5:39] <bigbadben> apt-get
[5:39] <ShiftPlusOne> O_o
[5:41] <nerdboy> bigbadben: apt-get points to whatever repositories you want
[5:41] <nerdboy> in this case it's raspi versionds of debian armhf
[5:41] <ShiftPlusOne> If I interpret your question differently... yes ubuntu definitely has packages we don't.
[5:42] <nerdboy> if you want to steal a debian package you need to compile it from source
[5:42] <nerdboy> er, ubuntu
[5:42] <ShiftPlusOne> Chances are, if it's not available already, there's a reason for it.
[5:42] <nerdboy> you can add the ubuntu source repo to your sources.list and try...
[5:43] <ShiftPlusOne> don't do that!
[5:43] <nerdboy> sources no binaries
[5:43] <ShiftPlusOne> >.>
[5:43] <nerdboy> *not
[5:43] <ShiftPlusOne> yes... missed that keyword there
[5:43] <ShiftPlusOne> <.<
[5:43] <nerdboy> you can pull the source package with apt-get and build it with dpkg
[5:44] <nerdboy> ShiftPlusOne: not uncommon on debian arm so far
[5:44] <nerdboy> everything i've tried so far has built fine
[5:45] <ShiftPlusOne> Yeah, I just seem to have lost my reading what people are actually saying abilities today.
[5:45] <nerdboy> with maybe a little coercion of the deb build rules...
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[5:50] <nerdboy> actually, for me it's pretty much distro-independent
[5:51] <nerdboy> i *aways* want stuff i have to build/package myself
[5:51] <nerdboy> *always even
[5:51] <nerdboy> must be why i'm happiest with gentoo...
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[6:03] <bigbadben> I never really compiled anything from source what are the benefits and what would be a easy package to try to compile? I have a ubuntu machine that is faster that I would probably try to compile on
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[6:14] <nerdboy> easier to compile native first, then you can try cross-compiling...
[6:14] <nerdboy> bigbadben: it's pretty easy to build a deb package, but you'll need the instructions
[6:15] <nerdboy> it'll tell you what tools to install (like build-essential), how to grab the source with apt-get, an dhow to build the package
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[6:16] <bigbadben> so there is this old ubuntu app called blubphone that syncs your text to your desktop but it is no longer being updated can I try compiling that?
[6:18] <nerdboy> http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/build.en.html <= building the package
[6:19] <nerdboy> is the source package still in a repo somewhere?
[6:20] <bigbadben> https://launchpad.net/~markus-lanner/+archive/blubphone/+packages
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[6:20] <nerdboy> if not, then you'll have to do the manual ./configure, make, make install dance
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[6:32] <nerdboy> bigbadben: you should be able to add that ppa to your sources.list and do "apt-get source blubphone"
[6:32] <bigbadben> I believe I have and it fails
[6:33] <nerdboy> what fails?
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[6:37] <bigbadben> 404 not found, but I am actually more interested in taking this app and doing some dev work on it I know python and I java so I can program for android also (the ubuntu app is written in python) how do people test apps like this? Lets say I change up some methods and I want to test them do I have to compile everytime?
[6:38] <bigbadben> by compile I mean compile the whole deb package
[6:38] <nerdboy> python compiles itself the first time you run it
[6:38] <nerdboy> oh, you build a package
[6:38] <nerdboy> *mean
[6:39] <nerdboy> if you apt-get the source, you can make a patch and have the package apply it
[6:40] <nerdboy> start by installing the build deps in chapter 6
[6:40] <nerdboy> plus python distutils and/or setup-tools
[6:41] <nerdboy> not sure of the exact package names
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[6:45] <bigbadben> I am sure if I look at his code long enough I will find the "main" method but is there a default file or folder people use? I have never worked on a project like this
[6:46] <nerdboy> depends on the author and his/her tools...
[6:46] <nerdboy> try one of the python IDEs
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[6:48] <bigbadben> I use sublime and I dont mind it that much it isn't really an IDE but its pretty close
[6:50] <nerdboy> not a bad choice
[6:50] <nerdboy> it might be worth it for the project part to try one of the others
[6:51] <nerdboy> it should have support for distutils, etc
[6:53] <bigbadben> can you recommend one
[6:54] <nerdboy> there should be one that's part of the python distribution
[6:54] <nerdboy> glide maybe?
[6:54] <nerdboy> don't worry about that part now
[6:55] <nerdboy> if you stick with the deb package tools then you shouldn't need to mess with it
[6:55] <nerdboy> lemme install the source on my raspbian card...
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[6:57] <nerdboy> bigbadben: if it's pure python, you could try installing the actual package
[6:57] <nerdboy> okay, updating
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[7:05] <cbb2296> I just spent 30 minutes trying to get arch to connect to the internet. I ended up installing raspbian and then realized my ethernet cable was unplugged. :'(
[7:06] <bigbadben> lol
[7:06] <bigbadben> I hate that kind of stuff
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[7:11] <nerdboy> cbb2296: you get a cookie
[7:12] <cbb2296> this is what makes the raspberry pi so much fun
[7:12] <cbb2296> on a different note. Is anyone here using the pi as a bluetooth audio receiver?
[7:13] <nerdboy> now that i have his ppa key, apt-get update again...
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[7:17] <bigbadben> nerdboy, /usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/gobject/constants.py:24: Warning: g_boxed_type_register_static: assertion `g_type_from_name (name) == 0' failed
[7:17] <bigbadben> import gobject._gobject
[7:17] <bigbadben> I keep getting that error you wouldn't have any idea about it would you
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[7:17] <nerdboy> with the non-source package i presume?
[7:18] <azizLIGHTS> hello, ive heard a lot about raspberry pi! i want to buy one now, where should i look if i am in the USA?
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[7:19] <bigbadben> I am just trying to get his python code to work in my ide
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[7:19] <nerdboy> azizLIGHTS: adafruit?
[7:19] <nerdboy> last place i bought pi stuff, but there are others...
[7:20] <bigbadben> azizLIGHTS, i bought mine off amazon. I have heard rumors of them being at micro centers
[7:20] <nerdboy> could look on raspberry.org i guess
[7:20] <bigbadben> I know you can pick up audrino stuff at radio shack they might also be worth a shot
[7:21] <azizLIGHTS> nice, nice. i see. thanks for the responses
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[7:22] <azizLIGHTS> i want to get a model B, its the one with more RAM, i read
[7:22] <azizLIGHTS> and attach a wifi dongle to it
[7:23] <azizLIGHTS> is there any recommendations for a wifi that works outta the box for raspberry pi
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[7:29] <nerdboy> bigbadben: this wiki page looks much simpler
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[7:29] <nerdboy> https://wiki.debian.org/SourcePackage
[7:31] <nerdboy> try "apt-get --build source blubphone"
[7:31] <nerdboy> it'll tell you what the missing build deps are
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[7:31] <nerdboy> apt-get install those and try it again
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[7:33] <bigbadben> E: Unable to find a source package for blubphone
[7:34] <nerdboy> did you add his ppa and ppa-key?
[7:34] <nerdboy> looks like it just built for me...
[7:35] <nerdboy> blubphone_12.09.2_all.deb
[7:36] <nerdboy> hmm, dpkg won't automatically install dependencies
[7:38] <[Saint]> nerdboy: automatically? No.
[7:38] <[Saint]> add "--force-depends"
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[7:38] <[Saint]> (turns deps into fail-cases)
[7:38] <[Saint]> *unmet deps
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[7:39] <[Saint]> "man dpkg" is your friend.
[7:39] <[Saint]> well..."man <any_package>" is, really. :)
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[7:40] <bigbadben> nerdboy, I cant add the ppa would it be because I have ubuntu 13.04
[7:41] <nerdboy> it already fails
[7:41] <nerdboy> apt-get -f install to the rescue...
[7:42] <nerdboy> all the deps in one swell foop
[7:42] <nerdboy> bigbadben: yes you can, just follow the manual way
[7:42] <[Saint]> apt-get install should do exactly the same.
[7:43] <nerdboy> add the source repo to your sources.list and then manually add his ppa-key
[7:43] <[Saint]> iiuc, -f forces it when specific versions of deps aren't met.
[7:43] <nerdboy> [Saint]: this a local package i just built
[7:44] <[Saint]> that shouldn't change anything.
[7:44] <pronto> i've been having this odd issue with my raspberry pi, its like a bug infected it or something
[7:44] <pronto> http://i.imgur.com/igbqWdH.jpg
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[7:45] <ShiftPlusOne> >_<
[7:45] <[Saint]> Y2K expert here.
[7:45] <[Saint]> ...you gots bugs.
[7:45] <pronto> ShiftPlusOne: sorry, i had to
[7:46] <[Saint]> Wow. You apparently have a camera perfectly suited for the photography of dust. :)
[7:46] <pronto> :D
[7:46] <pronto> mmmdust
[7:46] <[Saint]> the schmutz shows up something wicked in that image.
[7:46] <ShiftPlusOne> It's quite alright
[7:47] <nerdboy> removing a launchpad-something dep
[7:48] <johnc-> hello children
[7:48] * [Saint] wants to go to pronto's place and clean
[7:48] <pronto> [Saint]: thanks! :D
[7:48] <[Saint]> I'm looking around my own desk for dust now.
[7:48] <[Saint]> You've got me paranoid. :P
[7:49] <nerdboy> i have plenty of dust if you need some...
[7:50] <[Saint]> That Y2K bug sure is one uuuuuugly sonofathing isn't it? Uuugh.
[7:50] <[Saint]> The pink just sets the whole thing off.
[7:51] <nerdboy> now that is a metric @$$-load of dependencies for a python package...
[7:52] <bigbadben> nerdboy, can I PM you?
[7:52] <nerdboy> you sure picked a winner...
[7:52] <nerdboy> bigbadben: i think other people might still be interested in how to do this
[7:53] <nerdboy> unless you're gonna ask me out...
[7:53] <[Saint]> oooooOOOOOoooooOOOOOOoooooohhh!
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[7:54] <bigbadben> maybe if you can help me get this source
[7:54] <nerdboy> gotta have a little mystery in this channel once in a while
[7:54] <nerdboy> hang on a sec and i'll paste...
[7:55] <johnc-> ohhhh, mystery
[7:55] <bigbadben> cool thank you
[7:55] <johnc-> I'll dust off the mystery machine
[7:57] <nerdboy> and the bubble machine?
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[8:02] <johnc-> I want some toast
[8:02] <johnc-> can my pi make me toast?
[8:02] <ShiftPlusOne> sure, put a slice of bread on top and connect directly to mains
[8:02] <johnc-> can it make me toast repeatedly?
[8:03] <[Saint]> make_toast=true; while make_toast = true; do_toast_now
[8:04] <nerdboy> i think you need an interface board to control high voltage
[8:04] <[Saint]> that'll work. I'm a scientist.
[8:04] <nerdboy> or a fire...
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[8:04] <nerdboy> bigbadben: http://paste2.org/XVyxE5I6
[8:05] <ShiftPlusOne> Not that I am aware of.
[8:05] <ShiftPlusOne> maybe #raspberrypi-toast may help
[8:05] <johnc-> this isn't reddit, there isn't a channel for everything
[8:05] <nerdboy> bigbadben: after that, apt-get update again
[8:06] <nerdboy> now you can be the pi (or some other non-root) user
[8:07] <nerdboy> and apt-get source blubphone
[8:08] <johnc-> apt-get install toaster
[8:08] <nerdboy> it was happy to install the package with all the deps but one
[8:09] <nerdboy> so edit both debian/rules files and remove the blah-blah-launchpad-integration package
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[8:10] <nerdboy> from the list of dependences
[8:10] <nerdboy> +i
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[8:12] <nerdboy> i hope he hasn't injured himself...
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[8:20] <bigbadben> nerdboy, I got it to build but the fucking pubkey is missing errr
[8:20] <ShiftPlusOne> >=/
[8:20] <ShiftPlusOne> bigbadben, family friendly channel
[8:21] <bigbadben> Sorry
[8:21] <nerdboy> don't worry about that warning
[8:21] <ShiftPlusOne> no problem
[8:21] <nerdboy> and the ppa key is just for the source
[8:22] <nerdboy> and apt-get --build should have installed i believe
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[8:22] <nerdboy> i had to uninstall the one with the broken dep, then install yelp, then reinstall the one i modified
[8:24] <nerdboy> it pulled in a bunch of gnome deps, so it's a little iffy how it will run in the raspbian desktop
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[8:26] <nerdboy> you'll just have to try it and see...
[8:26] <bigbadben> I cant get it to build is what I meant
[8:27] <bigbadben> nvm I just got it!!!
[8:27] <bigbadben> How about a date nerdboy?
[8:28] <nerdboy> i'm already spoken for
[8:28] <nerdboy> sorry...
[8:29] <nerdboy> she can beat up store managers twice her size, so don't get any ideas either
[8:29] <nerdboy> bigbadben: the real question is, does it run?
[8:30] <nerdboy> i just have a shell connection, so i wan't planning on trying it myself...
[8:30] <bigbadben> no I am trying to figure out what dependencies I am missing
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[8:31] <nerdboy> first do "dpkg -i blubphone_12.09.2_all.deb"
[8:32] <nerdboy> or "sudo..."
[8:32] <nerdboy> then do " sudo apt-get -f install"
[8:33] <nerdboy> if you did the apt-get --build thing already, then you should apt-get remove blubphone
[8:33] <nerdboy> that one is broken
[8:34] <nerdboy> well, broken deps
[8:35] <nerdboy> bigbadben: the apt-get -f install will fix broken deps
[8:35] <nerdboy> ie, install the missing ones
[8:36] <nerdboy> it just can't install the launchpad one because it doesn't exist
[8:36] <nerdboy> so remove it from the rules files and rebuild the package, then it will be able to resolve all the dependencies
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[8:38] <bigbadben> so what if I cant aptget some of the dependences how do I get them
[8:38] * nerdboy sometimes feels like he's speaking Olde English with a heavy accent
[8:38] <nerdboy> you can get them
[8:39] <nerdboy> all but the launchpad-integration whatever package
[8:39] <nerdboy> in the source dir, do find . -name rules
[8:39] <nerdboy> edit each one and remove that package from the deps
[8:41] <nerdboy> sorry, long week...
[8:42] <nerdboy> blubphone-12.09.2/debian/rules and blubphone-12.09.2/debian/blubphone/DEBIAN/control
[8:42] <bigbadben> no, your doing great thank you so much for helping me
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[8:44] <nerdboy> make that control in both places
[8:44] <nerdboy> forget rules
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[8:50] <nerdboy> just find both control files and remove any reference to gir1.2-launchpad-integration-3.0
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[8:57] <bigbadben> nerdboy, there is something wrong with my files I can only find one blubphone-12.09.2/debian/control
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[9:12] <nerdboy> well, rebuild and see if it still says anything about that one
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[9:13] <nerdboy> i could only find one in the upstream tarball but the debian patches add the add the blubphone/DEBIAN/blah path
[9:16] <bigbadben> sorry but can you explain the debian patches? I must be missing that
[9:16] <bigbadben> and what is a up stream tarball
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[9:19] <nerdboy> you did apt-get source blubphone to get the source, right?
[9:20] <ShiftPlusOne> You guys are still on about that?
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[9:20] <ShiftPlusOne> seems like a lot of trouble for a python program
[9:21] <bigbadben> nerdboy, yes I did
[9:21] <nerdboy> then apt-get --build it
[9:21] <bigbadben> apt-get --build source blubphone
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[9:24] <bigbadben> ShiftPlusOne, I bought a raspberry pi to learn and part of learning is doing new things
[9:25] <ShiftPlusOne> That's the spirit. A lot of people tend to get discourages when things take a while to figure out for the first time.
[9:26] <nerdboy> http://www.gentoogeek.org/files/blubphone_12.09.2_all.deb <= here's the one i built
[9:26] <nerdboy> if you just want to see if it works...
[9:27] <nerdboy> but don't let me stop you from building it
[9:27] <bigbadben> I would like to learn how to build it myself I am just stuck and dont really know what to do from here lol
[9:27] <nerdboy> packaging stuff on arm is good for your pi toolkit
[9:27] <nerdboy> what was the last thing you did
[9:28] <nerdboy> you don't want to be in the source dir for apt-get --build
[9:29] <nerdboy> it will put the package where everything gets downloaded
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[9:35] <bigbadben> Ok I am going to try this again from the start, does it matter much if I am on my PI or my ubuntu machine?
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[9:37] <redarrow> bigbadben: if your ubuntu machine is armv6 there should be nearly no difference
[9:38] <mgottschlag> also, ubuntu doesn't work on armv6 at all iirc
[9:38] <mgottschlag> so probably no
[9:38] <nerdboy> bigbadben: on th pi
[9:38] <bigbadben> ok lets do it,
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[9:50] * [Saint] just uses DeskSMS
[9:52] <[Saint]> setup consisted of "install extension in browser".
[9:54] <bigbadben> [Saint], is that even any fun not spending three hours trying to make your program work?
[9:55] <[Saint]> Nope.
[9:55] <[Saint]> But, its not supposed to be fun. Its supposed to work. :)
[9:57] <[Saint]> If it helps any - I *did* just spend 4.5 hours trying to compile a 6 year old camera driver ;)
[9:58] <ShiftPlusOne> you'd love linux from scratch then.
[9:58] <[Saint]> (massaging it around newer versions of the tools it required, and substituting tools that no longer exist today)
[9:59] <[Saint]> Getting it to work was really anticlimactic.
[9:59] <[Saint]> "Yay! It works now!"
[9:59] <[Saint]> "...and, it looks like ass...this is a 6 year ols camera..."
[10:00] <[Saint]> A blurry, framey, slightly sepia-toned preview window in super-low resolution made all the more hilarious by my giant monitors was my reward.
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[10:01] <bigbadben> nerdboy, I think I have it working! not 100% sure I will let you know in a 8 hours after bed time thank you for all your patience and help dude
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[10:07] <nerdboy> i hope it runs as expected...
[10:08] <[Saint]> Well. That's that mission complete. Tiny jessie/3.10.4 image is humming along.
[10:08] <[Saint]> Now, to make it do something useful.
[10:09] <nerdboy> bootstrap a jessie hardfloat install?
[10:11] <[Saint]> No.
[10:11] <[Saint]> http://downloads.raspberrypi.org/raspbian/raspbian/dists/jessie/
[10:11] <[Saint]> No need.
[10:13] <nerdboy> this gives me a warm-fuzzy about printing...
[10:13] <nerdboy> filter/pdftoraster.cxx:506:26: warning: array subscript is below array bounds [-Warray-bounds]
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[12:13] <vjacob> any thoughts on Google's Chromecast?
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[12:17] <mike_00> so, i have been using raspberryPi for a while now, but im looking for something bit more powerfull, but not much less power economical so it can run 24/7. form factor doesnt matter. any ideas please...
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[12:20] <mike_00> window move down
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[12:22] <ShiftPlusOne> cubieboard, odroid, beaglebone black
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[12:23] <jasabella> are there any 0.5"/12mm speakers you can get for pi which arent just simple buzzers?
[12:23] <jasabella> ones you can play like an mp3 with
[12:24] <Haxxa> Hello I was wanting to add 4 switchs to my raspberrry pi, using common ground, Can anyone help me with that?
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[12:27] <ShiftPlusOne> Haxxa, what's the problem?
[12:28] <mike_00> thanks ShiftPlusOne ill look into those.
[12:28] <ShiftPlusOne> good luck
[12:29] <Haxxa> brb
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[12:40] <mike_00> usOne> good luck
[12:40] <mike_00> ShiftPlusOne: cheers
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[13:20] <DDave> hifi, does anyone know if the usb hub issues have been fixed? (Regarding the incompatibility with many keyboards)
[13:20] <DDave> oh7fdn, sorry for the highlight :(
[13:21] <DDave> what the heck
[13:21] <hifi> good going there
[13:21] <DDave> My XChat decided to reset the auto-completition for some reason -_-
[13:21] <DDave> Im sorry again
[13:22] <hifi> for some odd reason I had this channel open anyway
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[13:56] <Kane> salut
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[14:03] <ShiftPlusOne> привет
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[14:17] <davor> privet?
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[14:17] <ShiftPlusOne> I thought we were exchanging greetings in random languages there for a second.
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[14:23] <apo> \o
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[14:43] <davor> ShiftPlusOne, in that case, bok!
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[14:44] <ShiftPlusOne> better
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[14:51] <Firehopper> today is national smores day!
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[14:53] <davor> hehe
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[16:04] <bts__> hello
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[16:27] <davor> hi bts__
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[16:38] <bts__> I haven't noticed floating state on gpio pins even though turning off pull up/down, what can be the reason? just curiousity
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[16:40] <mgottschlag> bts__: huh? if pullups/pulldowns are disabled, I'd expect the pin to float
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[16:46] <bts__> mgottschlag: I had expected too, surprisingly it stays low without voltage given
[16:46] <mgottschlag> ah, wait, I read that wrong
[16:46] <mgottschlag> it is certainly possible that the pin just stays in one position
[16:46] <mgottschlag> usually the one where it was before you disabled the resistors
[16:46] <mgottschlag> that_s normal because there is still charge on the pin
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[17:12] <DMackey> http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/pisupply/pi-crust-easily-connect-electronics-to-your-raspbe
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[17:35] <patchie> Does any of you know about any Dropbox alternative, which can be used with a FTP server. And I would want it to be encrypted on the FTP server as well. And it has to work with Windows and Android clientside. Linux serverside.
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[17:38] <chithead> if you are attached to ftp, then that will be difficult. most use webdav or similar
[17:39] <davor> if you're willing to pay, you can just rent a server patchie
[17:39] <patchie> i have a server..thats not the question
[17:39] <patchie> i need an application that does this for me...sync files like dropbox
[17:39] <patchie> and encrypts files on the server
[17:41] <davor> ahh, didn't even read your original question properly, thought you needed a service or something. I'm sorry
[17:41] <davor> rsync?
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[17:42] <patchie> rsync is?
[17:42] <davor> http://linux.die.net/man/1/rsync I don't think it can do encryption on its own
[17:42] <davor> found this though http://www.nixtutor.com/linux/off-site-encrypted-backups-using-rsync-and-aes/
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[17:43] <davor> I think you'll be able to set something up with that
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[17:44] <[Saint]> That ignores the original requirement.
[17:45] <[Saint]> "has to run linux and android clientside"
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[17:45] <patchie> windows* clientside
[17:45] <sney> there must be a rsync client for android
[17:45] <sney> there definitely is a windows one
[17:45] <davor> there is indeed an rsync client for android
[17:45] <davor> don't know about windows myself
[17:46] <davor> you can just cross-compile it though if that app doesn't work for you, I think there's only one app
[17:46] <davor> it's quite flexible though
[17:46] <sney> I have deployed the windows one. it's a straight port. the android one might have a gui
[17:46] <davor> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.kowalczuk.rsync4android
[17:47] <davor> I think it can make an SSH tunnel
[17:48] <davor> I have used that app with success
[17:49] <patchie> ssh tunnel..like sftp?
[17:49] <[Saint]> Hum. I stand corrected. I had used a tiny chroot on Android in the past to get a "full rsync" experience.
[17:49] <[Saint]> Which isn;tvery practical at all.
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[17:49] <sney> patchie: no, ssh. rsync would be handling the file transfer
[17:49] <davor> I think this just uses a cross-compiled, statically linked rsync binary [Saint]
[17:50] <[Saint]> aha.
[17:50] <davor> same with dropbear
[17:52] <davor> btw if you don't need many tools and an entire environment, compiling statically linked binaries for ARM works rather well, I've done it with a few tools for personal needs in the past [Saint]
[17:53] <davor> doesn't work so well with bash haha... trust me on that one
[17:53] <davor> that one wasn't exactly "compile and go"
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[17:53] <spobat> hi
[17:53] <davor> hello
[17:53] <spobat> is raspi complete open source?
[17:53] <[Saint]> Oh, yes, I know. One of the factors of me choosing to go with chroot was that I was also using it as a quassel-core, connecting to it from my phone with quassel-droid. :)
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[17:54] <[Saint]> It was also a distributed build client at one point... :)
[17:54] <[Saint]> spobat: complete? No.
[17:54] <davor> ah, hehe, nice
[17:54] <spobat> [Saint]: "how* os is it?
[17:55] <[Saint]> errr...what?
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[17:56] <spobat> what parts are / what are not?
[17:57] <[Saint]> The Videocore binaries are closed source, and there's no data sheet for the GPU.
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[17:58] <[Saint]> the rest depends on whatever distribution you use.
[17:59] <spobat> okay, thank you
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[18:00] <[Saint]> there's an "open source driver", but, its really just an open shim to a closed blob.
[18:01] <Joeboy> The boot process / code is not open
[18:01] <[Saint]> Joeboy: yep - that's the GPU.
[18:02] <[Saint]> The GPU handles setup/boot sequence. Its a very weird little package.
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[18:02] <Joeboy> Do we know why they did it that way?
[18:03] * [Saint] shrugs
[18:03] <[Saint]> I have no idea what the intended function of the chip is.
[18:03] <[Saint]> Perhaps video conferencing? Dunno.
[18:03] <[Saint]> You can get it without the ARM core too.
[18:04] <chithead> the primary purpose of the arm seems to be delivering content to the videocore
[18:04] <Joeboy> I don't really know about this stuff, but I can't think of any reason why you'd start the boot process with the GPU
[18:04] <Joeboy> It just seems gratuitous
[18:05] <chithead> the gpu controls everything. memory, interfaces, peripherals
[18:05] <Joeboy> But why not boot into the cpu then call whatever does that stuff on the gpu?
[18:05] <chithead> you can even run your own code on it if you obtain the tools and documentation from broadcom (under nda)
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[18:07] <[Saint]> well, it basically is doing that.
[18:08] <Joeboy> Hm
[18:08] <[Saint]> It basically is "a CPU", ...that also happens to be a fairly powerful graphics core.
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[18:48] <pa> hi
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[18:48] <pa> anybody on raspbian, rtl8188cu, and hostapd?
[18:49] <Dooley> Hey guys - do you know how I can call a make from a ossystem in python?
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[19:00] <nerdboy> moin
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[19:00] <nerdboy> pa: i have one, but i've only used it with my poky image so far
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[19:01] <nerdboy> what's your question?
[19:01] <pa> ah.. coz everything was working fine
[19:01] <pa> then the sd card fried, and i had to reflash
[19:01] <pa> i reflashed with the latest raspbian (2013-08)
[19:01] <pa> and tried also with 2013-05
[19:01] <pa> but now, after having reconfigured everything as it was (including the hostapd from realtek), it stopped working
[19:01] <nerdboy> you mean 2013-05-25 ?
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[19:02] <pa> when i run hostapd it gets stuck at rtl871x_set_hidden_ssid_ops
[19:02] <pa> yes i mean that one
[19:02] <nerdboy> hmm...
[19:02] <pa> also, rfkill list does not list any device
[19:02] <nerdboy> that seems a little strange...
[19:03] <pa> i am still using the stock module (8192cu), that comes with raspbian, and that was working before
[19:03] <nerdboy> is your new install missing something?
[19:03] <pa> no idea.. i think i put back everything i had before
[19:03] <pa> i flashed from image
[19:03] <pa> and then added what was missing via apt-get
[19:04] <nerdboy> hopefully the images are reasonably consistent package-wise
[19:04] <pa> i am considering to try again 2013-02 that was working before
[19:04] <nerdboy> just fr kicks, try apt-get -f install to check for broken deps
[19:04] <pa> but im worried that apt-getting what is missing will get me too new parts
[19:04] <nerdboy> *for
[19:05] <pa> that says that everything is fine
[19:05] <nerdboy> i'd be more worried about too old than too new...
[19:05] <pa> i suspect there might be something wrong with the module
[19:05] <pa> because it's weird rfkill doesnt find the device
[19:06] <pa> even though iwconfig shows it
[19:06] <pa> and ifconfig too
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[19:07] <nerdboy> are all the right modules loaded?
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[19:08] <nerdboy> rfkill loads fine here
[19:08] <pa> in my case i have to load rfkill module by hand
[19:08] <pa> it does not autoload
[19:09] <nerdboy> so it is loaded...
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[19:09] <pa> yes
[19:09] <pa> but rfkill list shows nothign
[19:09] <nerdboy> things that make you go "hmm..."
[19:11] <pa> yeah..
[19:11] <nerdboy> does rfkill see it without hostapd running?
[19:11] <pa> and it was working fine, before
[19:11] <pa> no
[19:11] <pa> neither
[19:11] <pa> do you have the "wi" module on?
[19:11] <pa> (is it called like that?)
[19:11] <pa> or wl maybe
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[19:13] <nerdboy> hang on a sec, lemme get the dongle and reboot
[19:13] <pa> thanks :)
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[19:16] <nerdboy> hmm, just booting shows all the right modules loaded
[19:17] <nerdboy> including rfkill
[19:18] <chithead> so maybe you have no rfkill switch
[19:18] <pa> well
[19:18] <pa> rfkill was working before
[19:19] <pa> anyway no, i have no hardware rfkill switch on the dongle
[19:19] <nerdboy> works here
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[19:19] <nerdboy> 0: phy0: Wireless LAN
[19:19] <pa> i can try to reflash with 2013-02
[19:19] <pa> that was working for sure
[19:19] <pa> but the problem is maybe that rfkill is too new?
[19:19] <pa> coz it doesnt come with raspbian
[19:19] <nerdboy> maybe your hostap config isn't quite what you had before
[19:20] <pa> yes, just the same
[19:20] <pa> i backed up
[19:20] <pa> i think the problem is with rfkill or something
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[19:20] <nerdboy> seems like *something* isn't the same...
[19:20] <pa> coz hostap, well
[19:20] <pa> it comes from the realtek package
[19:21] <pa> and that hasnt changed
[19:21] <pa> the module
[19:21] <davor> I wish there was a sensor that could test the composition of a fluid hehe
[19:21] <pa> well that comes with the kernel
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[19:21] <pa> and i havent upgraded it
[19:22] <nerdboy> well, you just made me erase what i was going to say...
[19:22] <nerdboy> maybe do an aptitude safe-upgrade or something and see if it works...
[19:23] <nerdboy> might be faster than starting from scratch
[19:23] <pa> i can try.. but i'm a bit skeptical..
[19:23] <pa> let see
[19:23] <nerdboy> in general, i tend to try the latest and then roll-back only a specific package if needed
[19:24] <pa> so, apt-get upgrade doesnt attempt to upgrade the kernel or any other wifi related package
[19:24] <pa> let see with aptitude
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[19:24] <nerdboy> distupgrade is the full monty i think
[19:25] <pa> ok so also aptitude safe-upgrade does not attempt to upgrade anything kernel or wifi related
[19:25] <pa> mhm..
[19:25] <pa> maybe my dongle is fried?
[19:25] <pa> but it is correctly seen
[19:26] <pa> and initialized
[19:26] <pa> it even has blue light on
[19:26] <nerdboy> if the dongle can connect to another ap...
[19:26] <nerdboy> can it?
[19:27] <nerdboy> i got a cheap-ish rosewill at newegg with a detachable antenna and everything
[19:27] <pa> i should try
[19:27] <pa> let me see
[19:28] <pa> i can try with a tethering phone
[19:29] <nerdboy> i think it $12 plus minimal shipping...
[19:29] <nerdboy> *was
[19:29] <pa> i have a trendnet micro dongle
[19:29] <pa> it was working ok..
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[19:31] <pa> so doing iwlist wlan0 scan can at least find several networks around
[19:31] <pa> i would say it works
[19:32] <pa> nerdboy, do you have any xxx80211 module inserted?
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[19:34] <nerdboy> looks like mine is the rt2800usb
[19:34] <nerdboy> maybe it was the other one but it's in the car...
[19:35] <nerdboy> http://paste2.org/0U7vaFLd <= modules
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[19:35] <pa> ah ok
[19:35] <pa> ralink is different
[19:35] <pa> it works with the stock hostapd
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[19:36] <pa> i don't understand if im missing some modules
[19:36] <nerdboy> if you can scan then it must be the config
[19:37] <pa> but rfkill finds no device..
[19:37] <pa> isn't it odd?
[19:37] <pksato> device have a rf kill function?
[19:38] <nerdboy> wasn't there some weirdness with rtl8188cu ?
[19:38] <pa> well, soft rfkill
[19:38] <pa> yes
[19:38] <nerdboy> like multiple modules/patches etc
[19:38] <pa> yes, you should use 8192cu
[19:38] <pa> rtlxxx do not really work
[19:38] <pa> they are even blacklisted by default
[19:39] <pa> nerdboy, do you know how i can downgrade a package?
[19:39] <nerdboy> so you're okay if you load the right module?
[19:39] <pa> on weezy
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[19:40] <nerdboy> i've had to do that once or twice, but i'm not sure of the details for debian
[19:40] <nerdboy> google "peg debian package"
[19:40] <pa> hgmm
[19:40] <pa> maybe i wasnt using wheezy?
[19:40] <pa> hmm
[19:40] <pa> hmmm
[19:41] <nerdboy> you are, unless you have the jessie image
[19:41] <pa> now i am
[19:41] <pa> i am not sure before
[19:42] <pa> cant see anything else
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[19:42] <pa> so probably yes
[19:42] <nerdboy> you could throw caution to the wind and distupgrade to jessie...
[19:43] <nerdboy> although there are supposed to be images
[19:43] <pa> hm
[19:43] <pa> let see
[19:43] <nerdboy> on rpi.org even
[19:44] <nerdboy> damn, i haven't updated the kid's laptop since last fall... it's a little painful to wait so long on a gentoo box...
[19:44] <pa> ok
[19:45] <pa> i try 2013-02
[19:45] <pa> last attempt before i start yelling at the mantainer
[19:45] <nerdboy> why go backwards?
[19:45] <nerdboy> try jessie
[19:45] <nerdboy> i dboostrapped it on chromebook
[19:45] <nerdboy> seems to work pretty well...
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[19:47] <pa> coz it was working!!
[19:47] <pa> :)
[19:48] <nerdboy> newer would potentially have fixes...
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[19:48] <pa> or new bugs :)
[19:48] <nerdboy> and they do have arm backports or whatever
[19:49] <nerdboy> everything with an older kernel has a broken asix driver
[19:49] <nerdboy> of which i have several... what about compiling the driver from source?
[19:50] <nerdboy> is there even a known-working version/patch/whatever?
[19:52] <nerdboy> pa: if the jessie image doesn't work, you can always fall back to the older wheezy image
[19:54] <nerdboy> newer is better, until something breaks
[19:57] <pa> well
[19:57] <pa> i was thinking about compiling the driver
[19:57] <pa> but then if it works with iwlist etc., it means the driver works
[19:57] <pa> it was working already before
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[19:57] <pa> i doubt the screwed up the driver
[19:57] <pa> i suspect something in some othe rmodule
[19:58] <pa> like nl80211 that i dont have, f, ex
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[20:04] <nerdboy> then compile the driver and its deps
[20:05] <nerdboy> but that does seem tangential
[20:05] <nerdboy> you should be able to load what you need
[20:06] <nerdboy> it really seems like hostap is fubar'd, or something it needs that it's not very good at telling you about
[20:07] <nerdboy> maybe up the kernel's debug level
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[20:07] <nerdboy> see what it says
[20:08] <nerdboy> http://elinux.org/Debugging_by_printing#Log_Levels
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[20:16] <nerdboy> pa: i just added the hostap stuff to the package feeds
[20:17] <nerdboy> you're welcome to try the poky image...
[20:17] <nerdboy> https://github.com/sarnold/meta-raspberrypi/wiki
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[21:01] <Biganon> hence my surprise to see that wiringpi, on the other hand, does not work with servos according to its creator
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[21:26] <BCMM> i know there is no overvoltage protection on the GPIO pins, but am i right in saying that they are protected from excess current?
[21:27] <mgottschlag> no
[21:27] <mgottschlag> they are not current limited at all, and you'd probably blow the GPIO module or more by drawing too much
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[21:40] <Felix29> Does anybody here use the pi with AVRs or PICs?
[21:45] <mgottschlag> I bet that is not your real question, but apart from that, some people do that, yes
[21:46] <Felix29> Yes, you are correct. The real question is what the best way of interfacing is for high data throughput and little lag
[21:47] <Felix29> I see a lot of i2c tutorials, but that's really slow. So I was wondering if people do USB PICs, SPI or fast UART with success
[21:47] <Felix29> but especially the USB with a PIC returns few search results, so I wonder why that is
[21:47] <mgottschlag> usb won't be very fast with a pic
[21:48] <mgottschlag> 12Mb/s max, and you have quite some overhead
[21:48] <Felix29> that's still faster than 400 kHz clock rate i2c
[21:48] <mgottschlag> at least I don't think that will be faster than spi
[21:48] <Felix29> but what about spi, shouldn't that be ideal?
[21:49] <mgottschlag> spi should be ideal if your MCU has DMA, which most don't
[21:49] <mgottschlag> I mean, which most cheap avrs/pics don't have
[21:49] <Felix29> yeah, i am trying to find out right now
[21:50] <Felix29> without dma i2c would actually be fastest?
[21:50] <mgottschlag> no, i2c should never be faster than spi
[21:50] <mgottschlag> but the usb units in these devices usually have some kind of DMA
[21:50] <mgottschlag> so USB might actually be faster
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[21:50] <mgottschlag> I have never used any of these with a pi though
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[21:51] <Felix29> but you used i2c and are happy with it?
[21:51] <mgottschlag> no, neither i2c :)
[21:51] <bts__> if BCM manual wants me to wait some number of "cycles", is it enough if I make simple loop branching to itself as many times?
[21:51] <Felix29> i want to do make a spectrum analyzer that does fft and charting on the pi
[21:51] <mgottschlag> my i2c/spi experience is limited to avr and a display, or freescale kinetis and a display
[21:52] <Felix29> so i'd have to move a lot of adc values from the uC to the pi
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[21:52] <mgottschlag> bts__: be careful that it is not optimized away, you might want to do it in assembler
[21:52] <mgottschlag> Felix29: have you done the math, could a fast microcontroller work?
[21:52] <mgottschlag> e.g. stm32 @ 150MHz
[21:52] <Felix29> bts__: at least in c you can use in-line assembler... not sure if python has that as well. look for nop statements
[21:53] <mgottschlag> ah, I missed that it was python
[21:53] <bts__> mgottschlag: I've meant writing it in ASM, so it's not a problem
[21:53] <mgottschlag> if the number of cycles you have to wait is low enough, I'd completely ignore it
[21:53] <mgottschlag> okay, then you shouldn't ignore it :)
[21:53] <bts__> ;) thank you
[21:54] <Felix29> mgottschlag: I tried to make an equalizer on a MEGA a few years ago... it works, but the FFT is hard to get done in real time
[21:54] <mgottschlag> although, can an avr sample the ADC faster than 10kHz anyways?
[21:54] <Felix29> the AVR can't
[21:54] <Felix29> but external adcs can
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[21:55] <Felix29> i need the AVR to make sure I sample every say 1 us though
[21:55] <Felix29> because using i2c from the pi will sample at more or less random times, not good for fft
[21:55] <mgottschlag> the freescale kinetis which I use has a nice 2MS/s ADC btw
[21:56] <Felix29> i have an eval board with really fast 24-bit ADC, but I doubt I can move that much data
[21:56] <Felix29> that's why I am looking into protocols to figure out what is fastest
[21:57] <mgottschlag> the raspberrypi has DMA btw, you maybe can use that for SPI interfacing with the ADC
[21:58] <mgottschlag> I wouldn't be surprised if that was good enough for realtime sampling
[21:58] <Felix29> hmm, yeah I need to see if you can sample with a constant rate that way
[21:58] <Felix29> If i can sample at 500 kHz, that'd be great
[21:59] <Felix29> but that's close to 8Mb/s without overhead
[21:59] <Felix29> So most likely it'll have to be a bit slower
[22:00] <mgottschlag> sounds doable for spi
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[22:01] <Felix29> i'll see
[22:01] <Felix29> worst case I take all gpio pins and make my own parallel interface that way
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[22:13] <bts__> good night.
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[22:25] <BCMM> mgottschlag: thanks
[22:27] <BCMM> mgottschlag: when http://elinux.org/RPi_Low-level_peripherals says "source and sink current is configurable from 2 mA up to 16 mA", it's referring to trigger levels then?
[22:27] <BCMM> where can i find documentation on acceptable GPOI current draw?
[22:28] <mgottschlag> 16mA is the acceptable current draw probably
[22:28] <mgottschlag> I don't exactly know what these are, but they are not trigger levels or anything similar
[22:28] <mgottschlag> I assume that you can set the maximum allowed current that way
[22:28] <kephra> Felix29, avr is to slow for 1us sampling (and ethernet) - even the mega max does 16khz sampling frequence
[22:29] <mgottschlag> probably, at 16mA it enables a larger power stage, but adds some more power consumption
[22:29] <mgottschlag> but when you have set it to 2mA and draw 10mA, you might kill the gpio pin
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[22:32] <kephra> Felix29, http://kephra.de/src/ADAqS.txt <- you millage may vary
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[22:35] <Felix29> kephra: thanks! I'll have a look at that
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[22:36] <Felix29> have to find out what the used ethernet and spi libs are, but I gotta go for a second first
[22:36] <kephra> Felix29, its tricky code - i'm base64 encoding the sampling - and output complete row as one printf
[22:36] <Felix29> is there a documentation page for that?
[22:37] <kephra> i'm sure google knows it better ;-(
[22:37] <Felix29> sorry, gotta run for now. Will message you later
[22:37] <kephra> cu - Felix29
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[22:38] <Felix29> cu and thx
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[23:25] <davor> I nearly just had my heart stop
[23:25] <davor> I was playing around with the GPIO and suddenly my buttons that I had set up before stopped working (music control)
[23:26] <davor> the Pi was unresponsive, there was no video output, wouldn't respond to keyboard input, ssh was dead
[23:26] <davor> I rebooted it and it thankfully booted
[23:26] <davor> I ran the script that controlled the buttons again, to no avail
[23:26] <davor> I killed it and started it again and it works now
[23:26] <davor> phew
[23:26] <davor> thought I had fried something
[23:26] <sney> do you have a backup sd card
[23:26] <davor> hmm, I think so
[23:26] <davor> somewhere around here
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[23:27] <sney> weird stuff like that was the first sign that one of my sd cards was failing
[23:27] <Encrypt> davor, You should save your system as an .iso file
[23:27] <Encrypt> SO that you'll be able to restore it in case it crashes
[23:27] <davor> but I guess messing up through GPIO would be a bit difficult as I did not short circuit anything nor hook up voltages more than 3.3v and less than 0v
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[23:27] <davor> yeah good idea
[23:28] <sney> yeah I have mine backed up as well, sd cards aren't meant to be used as hard drives and the pi seems to kill them relatively often
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[23:28] <davor> hm, doesn't help that mine is C10 either... apparently there have been problems with them
[23:28] <davor> I should probably set my user's home to the cifs share
[23:29] <kephra> sney, not only the PI - ssd's of eeepc 701 and 1000 are dying within 3-4 years under linux
[23:29] <nerdboy> been playing music on mine every day in the car for a couple months with no problems
[23:29] <sney> yeah, or have just the bare OS on the SD and then /home /usr /var on something more robust like a usb drive
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[23:29] <kephra> my personal ld50 time is 40 month
[23:29] <davor> yeah that's a good idea too
[23:29] <sney> kephra: early SSDs were crap but that has nothing to do with SD (secure digital) memory cards
[23:29] <nerdboy> start/hard-stop half a dozen times per day
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[23:30] <davor> would basically just need to plug it in, cp the files and edit the fstab, right sney ?
[23:30] <davor> just so I don't miss anything heh
[23:30] <nerdboy> pretty much all reads though, except when the playlist index increments
[23:30] <nerdboy> teensy bit of writes on startup
[23:30] <kephra> nerdboy, reading is not the problem - a dashcam loop can kill them much faster
[23:31] <sney> davor yeah pretty much
[23:31] <nerdboy> the right mount options and filesystems help...
[23:32] <davor> right
[23:32] <davor> what do you recommend
[23:32] <davor> ah, for rpi's internal mem
[23:32] <nerdboy> just "dd if=/dev/sdX of=rpi-backup.img bs=4M"
[23:33] <davor> nah I know how to take an SD image :p
[23:33] <nerdboy> where X is your sdcard device
[23:33] <davor> thought you were talking about moving /usr, /var and /home to a USB
[23:33] <nerdboy> i would recommend rsync as a better cp
[23:33] <nerdboy> if that's what you're doing...
[23:33] <sney> filesystem recommendations are pretty subjective. it's probably a good idea to use something ext so you can resize it if necessary but otherwise whatever floats your boat
[23:34] <sney> and yeah, rsync (or tar) instead of cp
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[23:35] <davor> I'll probably do ext4 without journaling or btrfs (I hear it's good with power outages and stuff) then
[23:35] <davor> thanks!
[23:35] <davor> will do, rsync
[23:35] <SuperGauntlet> What I'd do is use dd to generate the image, then stick it in a tar.gz to compress the empty space
[23:35] <nerdboy> ext4 is usually fine with hard power off
[23:35] <SuperGauntlet> And then upload or copy to whatever
[23:36] <nerdboy> disable write caching unless you're missing the last couple minutes...
[23:36] <nerdboy> *okay with
[23:36] <davor> nah I'm good with that
[23:37] <davor> yeah I'll do ext4 then for simplicity's sake
[23:37] <nerdboy> mount with defaults,relatime
[23:38] <nerdboy> you should already have barriers and data=ordered by default
[23:39] <SuperGauntlet> Couldn't you use ext2 to decrease wear?
[23:39] <davor> I don't know of any differences between the two that would cause more wear in ext4 except journaling tbh
[23:40] <SuperGauntlet> Oh you're disabling it in ext4 disregard then
[23:40] <davor> yeah
[23:40] <davor> okay, thought there might be something else haha
[23:40] <nerdboy> i started using xz for images
[23:41] <SuperGauntlet> yeah xz will give better compression
[23:41] <davor> according to tests, I think xz has the best compression ratio
[23:41] <SuperGauntlet> yeah LZMA is def the best right now
[23:41] <davor> I'm not quoting tests because it was a while ago and I can't remember but yeah :p
[23:42] <SuperGauntlet> It's a little more CPU intensive which is why I don't use it in some cases but yes
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[23:42] <nerdboy> for backups/downloads it's perfect...
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[23:50] <ShadowJK> Use whatever filesystem performs the fastest for you. By extension it'll also have the least wear.
[23:50] <nerdboy> davor: there's a new image with rt_group_sched and some jack tools
[23:51] <nerdboy> plus hostap and nginx in the package feeds
[23:51] <davor> ah, nice
[23:51] <davor> I've switched back to Arch though
[23:51] <davor> I'm kind of grown used to it
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[23:51] <davor> *I've
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[23:54] <nerdboy> i'm still running an older image in the car with some slightly less old package updates
[23:54] <nerdboy> i should update my own dogfood more often...
[23:56] <nerdboy> bunch of recent updates in poky/meta-openembedded in the last build
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[23:57] <rdz> hi all. i attached an usb harddrive to the pi where i host some media files and i mounted it locally (laptop) through sshfs. it seems sshfs is rather slow on the pi, is there a simple remote fs protocol? do people by chance even run nfs?
[23:57] <nerdboy> actually feels like a real OS with all those updates...
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[23:59] <sney> rdz: nfs is pretty low key and so is cifs. but your bottleneck is probably just the usb bus
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[23:59] <sney> since in your case it's using a single usb 2.0 bus for both the disk i/o AND the network

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