#raspberrypi IRC Log


IRC Log for 2013-08-12

Timestamps are in GMT/BST.

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[1:24] * chz|bacon (~chz@unaffiliated/chzbacon/x-4157104) has joined #raspberrypi
[1:24] <chz|bacon> hi all
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[1:25] <chz|bacon> just posted an article i thought you all might be interested in. http://www.cmdlist.com/2013/08/installing-an-otr-chat-server-on-the-raspberry-pi/
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[1:28] <savid> So, I'm pretty sure I fried my pi, but I'm curious as to what exactly I did. It could be that I put 5v on the wrong GPIO pin, but not sure. Basically what's happening now is when I plug it in to USB power, the power led comes on but then slowly fades, and the CPU heats up really quickly.
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[1:29] <ShadowJK> if the pin was set as output, and set low, supplying 5V to it would fry things
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[1:32] <savid> well, I guess I can salvage the ports for some other project :-/
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[1:35] <SpeedEvil> and if the CPU is mostly shortefd, the above would be expecteds
[1:35] <SpeedEvil> the power led goes off as the fuse heats up
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[2:27] <devslash> ive got an old ipod classic 120GB. is it possible to use it as an external hard drive without requiring a usb hub?
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[2:30] <chithead> possibly, if you use a dock which has a separate power supply
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[2:33] <devslash> hm i dont have one
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[4:07] <alpha1125> anyway to read an SD card image after being imaged? I'm getting ext4-fs errors on boot…
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[4:08] <alpha1125> or do an fsck on the sdcard from a mac, or another rpi?
[4:08] <SirLagz> yes
[4:08] <SirLagz> USB Card raeder
[4:08] <alpha1125> SirLagz, mac or another pi?
[4:08] <SirLagz> either one
[4:08] <SirLagz> though another Pi is probably more suitable
[4:09] <alpha1125> okay, how do I mount to fsck from a mac, on an rpi sd card image?
[4:09] <SirLagz> well you don't mount it to fsck it
[4:09] <SirLagz> you fsck it when it's unmounted so it doesn't do damage
[4:10] <SirLagz> So I'd plug it in, unmount it, and then run fsck on the device that comes up under you rmac
[4:10] <SirLagz> your mac*
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[4:20] <alpha1125> can't mount it… seems like ext4 isn't support on osx.
[4:21] <SirLagz> in that case. the other pi.
[4:21] <alpha1125> from diskutil, the partition manager for osx, the partition shows up, but not mountable… or verifiable.
[4:21] <SirLagz> but like i said, don't mount it
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[4:35] <alpha1125> k, I'm just going to go grab an usb card reader tmrw, and do it from the rpi/linux… osx doesn't have an ext4 driver, unless I buy some software from paragon… SirLagz thanks for the tips though...
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[4:39] <SirLagz> alpha1125: np
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[4:42] <ekaj> Does anyone know of a .avi player for Wheezy? I tried omxplayer but it didn't work
[4:44] <asaru> it should
[4:44] <asaru> its what everyone uses i believe
[4:44] <ekaj> I may be doing something wrong - I just used 'omxplayer show.avi', iot opened a 2nd terminal, but terminal was empty
[4:44] <asaru> weird
[4:45] <ekaj> ohhh 1 sec
[4:48] <ekaj> I am getting a vc+tv+get+display+state error -.0
[4:50] <pksato> ekaj: you changed GPU memory size?
[4:50] <ekaj> No..
[4:50] <ekaj> Some people are saying it's a firmware issue
[4:51] <ekaj> What does changing the GPU mem size do?
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[5:04] <tacowho> hello all
[5:04] <SirLagz> hi
[5:04] <tacowho> just got my Pi yesterday
[5:05] <tacowho> hi sirlagz
[5:05] <pronto> tacowho: nice!
[5:05] <tacowho> yah i like it, running raspbmc right now
[5:05] <pronto> \o/
[5:06] <tacowho> i need more sd cards heh
[5:06] <pronto> and more rpi's
[5:06] <tacowho> yessir
[5:06] <SirLagz> was just about to say the sme thing pronto lol
[5:06] <pronto> SirLagz: you lagz'd
[5:06] <SirLagz> haha
[5:07] <pronto> tacowho: careful though, theres this nasty bug infecting the rpi's
[5:07] * LaxWasHere is now known as LaxWasThere
[5:07] <pronto> it got mine :(
[5:07] <tacowho> what does it do pronto?
[5:07] <SirLagz> is it called rpi multiplication ? lol
[5:07] <pronto> http://i.imgur.com/igbqWdH.jpg tacowho <<
[5:07] <SirLagz> rpis keep growing and growing !
[5:07] <SirLagz> lol
[5:08] <tacowho> idk bout that lol
[5:08] <tacowho> pronto: ahahaha
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[5:09] <tacowho> that bug looks dangerous, hope it gets contained soon
[5:10] <pronto> yeah, i'm working on it
[5:12] <tacowho> so has anyone played with the GPIO on their RPi?
[5:12] <pronto> i keep meaning to
[5:13] <pronto> i might see if i can make my decon20 badge talk to the rpi via gpio
[5:13] <tacowho> its a little over my head but cam looked cool for it and if u needed a serial connection thru usb
[5:13] <ekaj> I just ran rpi-update and it's taking forever lol
[5:14] <tacowho> overclock it! lol
[5:14] <pronto> one of my friends OC's his rpi to 1Ghz
[5:14] <ekaj> I am primarily gonna use it to torrent.. lol
[5:14] <ekaj> maybe
[5:15] <pronto> :s
[5:15] <pronto> i wouldnt do that
[5:15] <pronto> hashing would take FOREVER
[5:15] <SirLagz> unless you're torrenting to an external HDD
[5:15] <ekaj> To an external for sure =p
[5:15] <SirLagz> hashing doen't take too long
[5:16] <ekaj> I was going to use it to stream HD movies from my enclosure, but I think I can just put them on a flash drive and plug it in
[5:16] <SirLagz> either way works
[5:16] <tacowho> i wanted to get that badass aluminum case so i could overclock it having heatsinks
[5:16] <pronto> watercool!
[5:16] <ekaj> submerge it in mineral oil =p
[5:16] <pronto> http://www.bit-tech.net/news/hardware/2013/05/01/water-cooled-raspberry-pi-computer-complete/
[5:17] <tacowho> lol
[5:17] <tacowho> thats wicked pronto!
[5:17] <pronto> i totally had no idea that existed, just googled it
[5:17] <pronto> was not dissapoit
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[5:18] <ekaj> FINALLY
[5:18] <ekaj> I got omxplayer to work, brb while I disconnect network bridge
[5:19] <ekaj> meh I'll leave it connected
[5:20] <tacowho> i wonder what that dude got it to run stable at with watercool
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[5:24] <SirLagz> someone subzeroed cooled his RPi lol
[5:24] <SirLagz> there's a thread on the forums
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[5:24] <tacowho> have that sh1t running at 2ghz like that lol
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[5:35] <lkthomas> hey guys
[5:35] <lkthomas> anyone using any USB IR device which works with RPi ?
[5:36] <tacowho> nah havent hooked much too usb yet, just got it yesterday
[5:36] <tacowho> to*
[5:37] <tacowho> u tryin to hookup remote?
[5:37] <lkthomas> yes, control my AC
[5:37] <tacowho> awesome
[5:37] <lkthomas> trying
[5:37] <lkthomas> not yet done
[5:37] <lkthomas> finding proper device, I don't want to brew my own
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[5:39] <tacowho> right
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[6:27] <djapo> is there an opengl pdf viewer so that i can read pdfs without opening an x server, similar to how xbmc can run without an xserver
[6:27] <djapo> ?
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[6:48] <djapo> j
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[10:19] <voxadam> If I want some local storage on my Pi what will perform better, a "high class" SD, or a USB stick?
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[10:20] <hifi> everyone would go with USB
[10:20] <hifi> and most notably a USB HD
[10:22] <voxadam> Thanks. I wonder if anyone makes a case to hold a Pi and a 2.5" drive.
[10:23] <hifi> you also need a powered USB hub for the drive
[10:23] <hifi> or external power if the drive doesn't use USB to power itself
[10:23] <voxadam> Good point. Looks like I'll be building one of my own. I love having a CNC machining center.
[10:24] <voxadam> Now I just need to find the time.
[10:24] <hifi> if you want maximum lifetime, you could only store /boot in the SD card and install the system itself on the USB drive
[10:24] <voxadam> Good idea.
[10:25] <voxadam> Do USB sticks perform that poorly compared to spinning disks even in Pi Land?
[10:25] <hifi> I don't think it's the performance, but the life expectancy of lower grade flash memory than SSD drives
[10:26] <voxadam> AH.
[10:26] <hifi> mostly it depends on your use case
[10:26] <hifi> people here have said they have killed their SD cards in a matter of few months
[10:27] <voxadam> I don't do much writing to my SD card so that shouldn't be an issue. Plus, I buy Sandisk or other good cards.
[10:27] <hifi> IIRC one of those cards that died quickly was sandisk :p
[10:27] <voxadam> See: Law of large numbers
[10:27] <voxadam> :)
[10:27] <hifi> configuring the system properly for low writes might be a good thing if you run off a SD card
[10:28] <voxadam> I'd boot the thing over the network if it supported PXE.
[10:28] <nid0> fwiw, if you're going to be accessing your pi's storage over the network and it isnt just large media files, you'll get better performance with a decent SD card
[10:29] <nid0> and the pi supports network booting via nfs or iscsi, you just need an SD card in while /boot is read
[10:29] <hifi> yeah, that's also true
[10:29] <voxadam> I'll have to look into that.
[10:29] <hifi> and you can set the card to harware read-only to avoid causing any writes
[10:29] <hifi> when you've configured it as nfs booting card
[10:31] <voxadam> I just love the idea of a 700 MHz ARM board being used in conjunction with iSCSI. Maybe I should try to build a Fibre Channel adapter for the thing.
[10:31] <nid0> nothing wrong with using iscsi with it, works really well
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[10:31] <nid0> would just be nice to have a proper nic on the board
[10:31] <voxadam> Isn't there quite a bit of CPU overhead for the SCSI stack?
[10:32] <voxadam> A real NIC would be a godsend.
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[10:33] <nid0> not really - yeah tcp offload on a proper nic would be lovely, but the overhead involved is fairly linear with the workload, so a pi which inherently isnt going to be doing a huge amount anyway, has a fairly sensible iscsi overhead
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[10:34] <voxadam> You're probably right. I'm just old and have been wary of USB NICs for a long time.
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[10:38] <voxadam> What I'd love to see is a version that ditched the RCA video (or pinned it out to a header, maybe along with the audio jack), swapped the SD for a MicroSD, and moved as many of the ports on to one edge of the board (or two adjecent edges if need be).
[10:40] <[Saint]> the RCA jack out takes up virtually no space (well, none that wouldn't be occupied by a useless void of blank space were it not present), and it *really* lowers the bar for this thing to "Just Work (TM)" on as many devices as possible.
[10:40] <hifi> there are other and possibly chearper ARM boards with more juice in them
[10:40] <hifi> cheaper*
[10:41] <[Saint]> Add to that the fact that purchased in bulk they cost a few cents each, it makes all the sense in the world to include it.
[10:41] <hifi> of course they don't have such a big community around them
[10:41] <voxadam> All fair points.
[10:41] <hifi> you can desolder the RCA connector :p
[10:41] <[Saint]> I for one love the fact that this works on any televisual device with RCA-in.
[10:41] <Jck_true> voxadam: I remember atleast one video where the guy desolders all components he doesn't need
[10:42] <voxadam> :)
[10:42] <[Saint]> raspberrypi on a 60yo television with a betamax VCR?
[10:42] <[Saint]> No problem. :)
[10:42] <[Saint]> ...that's pretty cool, really.
[10:42] <Jck_true> [Saint]: You're just screwed with sound then ;)
[10:43] <[Saint]> This is true.
[10:43] <voxadam> I just wish that there were fewer connectors so the ones that remained could all be placed on one edge of the board. It would just make for a cleaner install when being used in places where neatness counts.
[10:43] <hifi> you can always desolder all the connectors and rewire them
[10:43] <Jck_true> You could power it from the pin header
[10:43] <hifi> if you really want to optimize it
[10:43] <Jck_true> And avoid the analog and the RCA
[10:43] <hifi> that doesn't really work for bulk though
[10:43] <[Saint]> WHat I really enjoy about RCA video out is the massive fleet of LCD backup camera displays you can purchase for virtually nothing to give any project a visual output.
[10:43] <Jck_true> that leaves only two sides used on the board
[10:44] <voxadam> I like the idea of auto backup LCDs. They're a dime a dozen.
[10:45] <[Saint]> some even have audio-in, and then you just need RAC->3.5mm cable or adapter.
[10:45] <[Saint]> Adds a display to a project for ~$20
[10:45] <[Saint]> *RCA
[10:46] <voxadam> Do heatsinks really help much when overclocking? Most projects of mine don't need the horsepower but XBMC could always use a bit more as the damn program is written like an old video game and redraws the entire screen on every refresh (not exactly modern design).
[10:46] <[Saint]> Depends how far you're OCing.
[10:46] <[Saint]> sub 1GHz, no.
[10:46] <ShiftPlusOne> voxadam, the little heatsinks you get off ebay do absolutely nothing.
[10:46] <[Saint]> Not at all.
[10:47] <quackgyver> Sweet, learned Py
[10:47] <voxadam> I wasn't aware anyone went beyond 1 GHz.
[10:47] <quackgyver> 20% done with my irc client
[10:47] <[Saint]> 1.2GHz+, and, yes.
[10:47] <quackgyver> shower me with praise
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[10:47] <quackgyver> hoot and holler
[10:47] <voxadam> What kind of heatsinks? Fans too?
[10:47] * [Saint] awards quackgyver one "w00t!".
[10:47] <[Saint]> use it wisely.
[10:47] <ShiftPlusOne> quackgyver, hoot! praise to you, kind sir.
[10:48] <quackgyver> Thank you, thank you, I bow to thee.
[10:48] <quackgyver> Too bad I lied.
[10:48] <quackgyver> Free praise.
[10:48] <[Saint]> Hahaha
[10:48] <quackgyver> Just kidding. I'm working on an IRC Client.
[10:48] <quackgyver> Based on the IRCCloud API.
[10:48] <quackgyver> *steps back into the shadows*
[10:48] <[Saint]> voxadam: iiuc, the current record is ~4.3GHz
[10:49] <[Saint]> which blows my efforts out of the water.
[10:49] <[Saint]> however, that guy can't hold it stable...no way.
[10:49] <voxadam> Using what? Flourinert?
[10:49] <[Saint]> It falls over within ~30s, so, it kinda doesn't count.
[10:49] <voxadam> Well, that's not exactly something to brag about than.
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[10:49] <[Saint]> L-Diflouride
[10:50] <[Saint]> (y'know, from the component cooler cans from radioshack et al)
[10:50] <hifi> ShiftPlusOne: nothing nothing? I'll measure that
[10:50] <voxadam> Ah.
[10:52] <ShiftPlusOne> hifi, maybe a degree or two. As you know, there is not much heat transfer between then actual bcm chip and the ram, so they are probably ok for keeping the ram cool, but I don't think that's why people buy them.
[10:52] <[Saint]> hifi: I believe you could re-parse that more accurately as "absolutely nothing useful".
[10:53] <[Saint]> you can achieve the same ffect by lapping the SoC a little.
[10:53] <[Saint]> *effect
[10:53] <hifi> heh
[10:53] <hifi> while I ordered my case I added a few dollars for one of those copper pieces, I'll do some measuring once I get it
[10:54] <hifi> it might be more useful for the nic/usb chip?
[10:54] <hifi> it gets really hot
[10:54] <ShiftPlusOne> yup
[10:55] <hifi> solution: order one more to DOUBLE the cooling effort
[10:56] <ShiftPlusOne> but does the hot eth/usb chip affect the board negatively in any way? Other than maybe shortening the life span of that chip.
[10:56] <[Saint]> http://www.overclock.net/t/1404207/extreme-cooled-raspberry-pi
[10:56] <hifi> stack them up for maximum performance
[10:56] <hifi> quad cooling, I like that
[10:56] <hifi> why stop at 4?
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[10:58] <ShiftPlusOne> so... tape a cat scratch post to a pi and you're set? O_o
[10:58] <hifi> apparently
[10:58] <ShiftPlusOne> and for some reason, everything on that table looks huge.
[10:58] <hifi> and it doubles as a cat toy
[11:02] <hifi> ShiftPlusOne: "And the copper pipe is not insulated. The white stuff on it is snow."
[11:02] <hifi> didn't see that one coming
[11:02] <ShiftPlusOne> O_O
[11:02] <hifi> though now it makes complete sense why it looks a bit icy
[11:04] <[Saint]> well...it is ~-37C
[11:04] <[Saint]> :)
[11:04] <davor> hello
[11:04] <ShiftPlusOne> ey
[11:05] <davor> how's it going :)
[11:05] <ShiftPlusOne> great
[11:05] <hifi> how far clocked can a pi run with rather normal cooling system
[11:05] <hifi> stable
[11:06] <ShiftPlusOne> normal as in with a fan?
[11:07] <hifi> yeah, or water cooled
[11:07] <hifi> nothing that requires something highly consumable
[11:07] <ShiftPlusOne> I am guessing it would be around the 1.2 - 1.7 GHz
[11:07] <ShiftPlusOne> maybe around 1.4
[11:08] <hifi> it would be interesting to have a stable pi at around that
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[11:08] <ShiftPlusOne> Haven't done any testing myself though. I think [Saint] knows a fair bit about it.
[11:08] <[Saint]> It varies *greatly* by unit.
[11:08] <[Saint]> I have one pi that flatly refuses to clock over 1.2GHz.
[11:08] <[Saint]> I have one I can hold stable around 1.8GHz.
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[11:08] <hifi> with no cooling?
[11:09] <voxadam> What kind of cooling?
[11:09] <[Saint]> passive cooling with a fairly large fin, but in an area with good airflow.
[11:09] <hifi> that's quite nice
[11:09] <[Saint]> and rather a lot of thermal adhesive.
[11:09] <voxadam> Where do you find decent heatsinks? Do you just cut down desktop heatsinks?
[11:10] <hifi> pix or didn't happen
[11:10] <[Saint]> I think this was an old nothbridge cooler.
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[11:11] <voxadam> I love it! http://www.ebay.com/itm/30pcs-Laptop-GPU-CPU-Heatsink-Copper-Shim-15mmx15mm-/190534808413
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[11:12] <davor> how are soldering iron tips heated up? simple heat conduction?
[11:13] <voxadam> We used to have a great electronics surplus store it town. I really miss that place.
[11:13] <[Saint]> 4SALE!!!!!1!!one!! - Irrelevant Blocks Of Copper
[11:13] <[Saint]> The seller is a sucker.
[11:13] <voxadam> No, the buyer is a sucker.
[11:13] <[Saint]> It he added "for raspberrypi" he could charge at least 100% more.
[11:13] <[Saint]> :)
[11:13] <nid0> why exactly is the buyer a sucker?
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[11:14] <[Saint]> because that product may even make your heat problems *worse* :)
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[11:15] <hifi> http://www.heatsinkfactory.com/zalman-zm-nbf47.html this would look badass on a pi, "what you got there? O_O"
[11:15] <[Saint]> it offers basically no additional surface area.
[11:15] <[Saint]> So, its basically going to be a hot block of copper that helps keep it at a stable (yet still hot) temperature. :)
[11:15] <hifi> or something similiar
[11:15] <davor> hahaha I remember that thing being reviewed in a croatian magazine about 5 years ago hifi
[11:15] <davor> it turned out to be excellent
[11:16] <davor> declared best buy
[11:16] <davor> for... southbridge I think?
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[11:16] <hifi> someone get one and glue it on top of the broadcom chip
[11:16] <nid0> you do realise that that product is (and is being sold quite clearly as) a shim, right?
[11:17] <davor> whoops, says so right there, northbridge
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[11:17] <davor> however hifi, "Do not use the ZM-NBF47 if there are no mounting holes or loops present around the Northbridge chipset" heh
[11:18] <hifi> davor: that's why thermal glue ;)
[11:18] <davor> yeah heh
[11:18] <hifi> you can then carry around your pi by grabbing the sink, lol
[11:18] <voxadam> I wouldn't mind cutting something like this: http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-Dell-PowerEdge-PowerVault-Copper-Heatsink-M1326-/250658080499? into a few pieces and using it on a Pi or two.
[11:19] <davor> haha, I had no idea those glues were so strong. how do you pull it off then?
[11:19] <hifi> davor: takes some twisting and force
[11:19] <davor> ah
[11:19] <hifi> I've snapped a few factory glued heatsinks off a DSL modem by twisting hard
[11:19] <davor> I am tempted to get that thing just for the fun of it heh
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[11:20] <hifi> don't think they were glued that well anyway
[11:20] <voxadam> hifi: Why were you disasembling your DSL modem?
[11:20] <voxadam> Were you planning on overclocking it?
[11:20] <hifi> I stole the minipci wireless adapter for my laptop
[11:20] <davor> haha
[11:21] <hifi> and snapped the sinks for testing on a pi
[11:21] <[Saint]> thermal bond/adhesive isn't really particularly "strong" per se.
[11:21] <voxadam> I can't argue with that. It actualy is a pretty damn good reason to take a modem apart.
[11:21] <[Saint]> It has a very good surface tension, though.
[11:21] <ShorTie> it's a heat sinking 2 part epoxy that holds them on
[11:22] <hifi> voxadam: and you can get more for the minipci adapter alone than the modem
[11:22] <voxadam> I know.
[11:22] <[Saint]> hifi is quite right, they are very strong if you try to pull it straight off, but, twist it a little first and its very easy to remove.
[11:23] <[Saint]> It never really sets hard, unless its many years old.
[11:23] <voxadam> :wq
[11:23] <voxadam> Oops. Wrong window.
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[11:23] <hifi> now we all know what you were doing
[11:24] <hifi> [Saint]: the ones I pulled off were surprisingly well stuck, the dsl modem was over 3 years old
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[11:31] <davor> I just got home with a tip 1 mm too wide to fit in my iron :|
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[11:31] <ShiftPlusOne> yay
[11:32] <davor> well, I think I'll be getting that no name soldering station today
[11:32] <davor> for about 80 USD
[11:33] <ShiftPlusOne> pricey
[11:33] <davor> yeah
[11:33] <davor> and it's pretty bad at that
[11:33] <davor> ebay items have at least 50 USD shipping tags on them
[11:33] <davor> and at most 80 USD
[11:34] <davor> so I really can't get away with spending less
[11:34] <davor> it's equivalent to this one http://www.ebay.com/itm/130711894355
[11:35] <davor> I can get that one or a Velleman for the same price, cheapest brand name I can get here is a 150 USD Weller station
[11:36] <ShiftPlusOne> Make sure you choose the right tips (conical are not as useful as they seem)
[11:36] <davor> which is pretty bad for a Weller according to reviews and whatnot apparently
[11:36] <davor> hm, which ones would you suggest then?
[11:37] <davor> chisel?
[11:37] <ShiftPlusOne> yup
[11:37] <davor> thanks
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[11:41] <ShiftPlusOne> davor, https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=J5Sb21qbpEQ&t=1064
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[11:43] <davor> yeah makes sense
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[11:45] <davor> just before I go off, would you recommend this one http://www.chipoteka.hr/artikl/9978/lemna-stanica-sa-temp-kontrolom-zd-937 or this one http://www.chipoteka.hr/artikl/105115/lemna-stanica-sa-temp-kontrolom-vtssc30n#tab-info-tab ?
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[11:46] <ShiftPlusOne> no idea.... cant you get replacement parts for them?
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[11:46] <davor> handles, not so sure, tips, yeah for the first one, not sure for the other one
[11:46] <davor> I'll ask, but I can probably get tips for the other one too
[11:47] <ShiftPlusOne> That ZD-937 looks a little too plastikey and toyish, so I don't know. The actual irons looks identical on them, so I don't see them being too different.
[11:48] <davor> yeah my thoughts too
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[11:48] <davor> I think the ZD is a knockoff too
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[11:49] <davor> a chinese clone or something like that
[11:49] <davor> at least Velleman is a genuine cheap station heh
[11:49] <davor> *the Velleman
[11:49] <ShiftPlusOne> I think that's the one I'd lean towards
[11:50] <davor> yeah. I'll go for that one and if it's not available, I'll get the other
[11:50] <davor> one
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[11:50] <ShiftPlusOne> good luck
[11:50] <davor> thanks man :)
[11:51] <ShiftPlusOne> Np, if you need me to pretend I know what I am talking about, I am always here.
[11:52] <davor> haha
[11:52] <davor> to tell you the truth, I'm just delaying going off to the shop because I'm quite bitter about the entire situation
[11:53] <ShiftPlusOne> the tip not fitting?
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[11:53] <[Saint]> just the tip?
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[11:54] <davor> nah, not really. I am about to spend a decent buck on an item for which I'm pretty sure that it isn't very good, whereas I could get something better for the same amount of money if I were living elsewhere. I could get a decent station, but it's impolitely expensive
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[11:55] <davor> just feels like I'm being forced to overpay for something
[11:55] <ShiftPlusOne> I am sure importing this stuff to where you are isn't cheap, so there's a bit of premium to pay.... not really their fault.
[11:55] <davor> because I have no other choice
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[11:55] <davor> yeah that's true, I'm not really mad at the retailers or anything haha
[11:55] <ShorTie> a hot air station might be more usefull since lots of things are surface mount now
[11:56] <davor> hm, they're pretty expensive and I still need the precision of a regular electrical iron
[11:56] * ShiftPlusOne isn't sure about using a hot air station as a substitute for a soldering iron >_<. It's great to have both, but if I had to choose, I'd keep the iron.
[11:57] <davor> I've ruined more 3.5mm audio jacks than I can count... heh
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[11:57] <davor> yep, I can't really get both at the moment
[11:57] <ShiftPlusOne> Btw, this seems to be where they are getting their stuff from http://www.china-zhongdi.com/2013/
[11:57] <ShorTie> mine is daul, has hot air and a soldering iron, was like 100 bucks
[11:58] <davor> ah indeed ShiftPlusOne
[11:58] <davor> I don't have a wide selection ShorTie
[11:59] * ShiftPlusOne considers ordering a few and seeing how they go on ebay.
[11:59] <ShorTie> like this, http://www.ebay.com/itm/SMD-Rework-Soldering-Station-HOT-AIR-IRON-2in1-WELDER-Spares-5-Nozzles-5-Tips-/390577182058?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5af036d56a
[11:59] <davor> ah, nice
[11:59] <davor> doesn't ship here though heh
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[12:00] <davor> I mean shipping for that kind of stuff usually doesn't go below 50 USD
[12:00] <davor> to Croatia
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[12:00] <ShiftPlusOne> davor, even from china?
[12:00] <davor> yep
[12:00] <ShiftPlusOne> crazy
[12:00] <davor> seems so
[12:00] <davor> yeah
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[12:02] <davor> oh, no, sorry
[12:02] <davor> just found one (auction) from china
[12:02] <davor> free shipping
[12:02] <davor> thought the ones I saw were from china, but most are from US
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[12:03] <davor> which definitely explains the shipping costs heh
[12:03] <tig|> 'nings all
[12:03] <davor> hi tig|
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[12:05] <davor> well I'm off
[12:05] <davor> cya, and thanks!
[12:05] <ShiftPlusOne> have fun
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[12:10] <RaTTuS|BIG> Oh Noes there goes the forums
[12:11] <ShiftPlusOne> Too many connections... better keep refreshing
[12:11] <RaTTuS|BIG> self ddos
[12:12] <ShiftPlusOne> seems fine now though
[12:13] <RaTTuS|BIG> yes , time for coffee
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[12:58] <leomcmartin> Hello! I'm trying to get the Pi and a PIC32MX695F512L microcontroller to communicate by connecting the PIC32 to a USB port on the Pi. The two communicate using the USB CDC protocol, which the Pi seems to handle for other USB devices, but apparently not the PIC32. However, lsusb shows that Raspbian has seen the PIC32. Does anyone know how to get the two to communicate?
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[13:02] <Vostok> now there's a really complicated model name for the controller :)
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[13:04] <leomcmartin> Yes, it's a heck of a mouthful :D
[13:04] <mgottschlag> leomcmartin: does dmesg show anything?
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[13:09] <leomcmartin> No, it doesn't, and I thought that lsusb was showing it up, but I mistook it for another device that got picked up. The PIC32's definitely working though.
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[13:16] <mgottschlag> leomcmartin: that is weird, linux should print at least *something* if a usb device is connected, even if an error occurs
[13:16] <mgottschlag> but then the pi's usb is totally broken, so maybe that shouldn't be such a large surprise
[13:18] <ShorTie> i'm not sure, but could it be it's connecting up to like the wrong side of the chip ?? and that is why lsusb doesn't see it
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[13:20] <leomcmartin> The PIC32's actually part of a kit that I bought a couple of years back (I don't know if you read the Australian Silicon Chip magazine, but it's a microcomputer called the Maximite that featured in there) and I've used it with USB squillions of times, so I don't think it's that.
[13:22] <Amadiro> leomcmartin, if the USB function has successfully initialized itself with the USB host, it will show up in lsusb (-vv)
[13:22] <leomcmartin> mgottschlag: Interesting, I've never really had any issues with the Pi USB before now, apart from power issues. I've shorted the polyfuses on the USB ports so I don't think power's an issue. Plus, the PIC32 isn't bus-powered at the moment, it's running off a wall wart, so that shouldn't be an issue.
[13:22] <Amadiro> if it doesn't show up there, there is a problem either with the electrical connection or the USB stack
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[13:23] <Amadiro> but not a software issue
[13:23] <Amadiro> or driver issue, rather
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[13:24] <leomcmartin> Yeah, I was thinking it was a driver issue; when you boot the PIC32 up in bootloader mode it connects as a USB human-interface device and it's visible in lsusb and dmesg.
[13:25] <ShorTie> just thinking, like a usb hub has a A and B ports, if you hook up A to A, will the hub still be found
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[13:26] <Amadiro> leomcmartin, sounds like it's an issue with the USB stack on the PIC-side
[13:26] <Amadiro> e.g. maybe you did not set your device properties there correctly
[13:26] <Amadiro> or EP configuration
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[13:26] <Amadiro> or maybe you just forgot to spin it up correctly
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[13:28] <leomcmartin> I can connect my Windows laptop to it and you can connect to it and it runs fine, as well as if I boot up in Ubuntu Linux. So I'm pretty sure the Pi just doesn't know how to communicate with it.
[13:28] <Amadiro> leomcmartin, fire up wireshark and sniff the USB traffic
[13:31] <leomcmartin> How do you see USB traffic with wireshark? I've got it installed and everything, but I've never used it for anything other than network traffic.
[13:33] <Amadiro> I think there is an option somewhere to start a capture on the USB host device
[13:33] <Amadiro> I've never tried it on the rpi, I don't think
[13:33] <ShorTie> google says there is a wkik for it, http://wiki.wireshark.org/CaptureSetup/USB
[13:33] <ShorTie> wiki*
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[13:37] <voxadam> Has anyone done anything with the DCI interface on the RPi?
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[13:40] <Amadiro> lovely, a lightning bolt just incinerated our power pole
[13:41] <ShorTie> dag, :(~
[13:41] <leomcmartin> That may have been entertaining, depending on whether or not you managed to unplug your appliances beforehand.
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[13:42] <Amadiro> Well, I shut down my desktop computer at least -- nothing else seems to have taken damage.
[13:44] <leomcmartin> That's rather fortunate. Oh, well, time to get the candles out I guess...
[13:45] <Amadiro> now we got back 100V
[13:45] <Amadiro> that's something, I guess?
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[13:46] <leomcmartin> Haha, I guess! Unfortunately (or fortunately, depending on how you look at it) I've never seen stuff get obliterated by lightning before.
[13:46] <leomcmartin> Amadiro: I didn't manage to get Wireshark to work, by the way, but as it's getting rather late here I'd best sign off, give up for now and try again tomorrow. Thanks for your help! :D
[13:46] <davor> I just purchased five 2200 uF capacitors
[13:47] <davor> more of an impulse buy. I have no idea what to do with them
[13:47] <Amadiro> I didn't see it directly, but the flash was so bright that it went straight through my blinds
[13:47] <davor> they look pretty sweet though
[13:47] <Amadiro> leomcmartin, good luck
[13:47] <heksesang> Does anyone know if it's possible to run something similar to the Dokan library for Windows on the Raspberry Pi?
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[13:48] <leomcmartin> Amadiro: Thanks mate. Hopefully it works in the end! I've got a feeling it's just a missing driver in Linux or something like that, which will require the powers of a Linux God (of which I am not) to fix :D
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[13:48] <leomcmartin> Righto, so long, and thanks for all the fish.
[13:48] <Amadiro> leomcmartin, nah, as I said, even if you are missing a driver, it shows up in lsusb
[13:49] <Amadiro> so if it doesn't show up there, it's definitely a problem with the hardware (possibly including the devices firmware)
[13:49] <heksesang> And does the RPi have enough power to effectively deal with client-side decryption when it downloads files from a cloud service?
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[13:49] <Amadiro> heksesang, linux has usermode filesystems through FUSE
[13:50] <Amadiro> heksesang, whether it is powerful enough to deal with the decryption, depends on the speed of your internet connection
[13:50] <Amadiro> (and the decryption etc, obviously)
[13:51] <leomcmartin> Amadiro: Yeah, there's definitely something odd going on. Oh well, see ya!
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[13:52] <heksesang> Say I'm downloading files from Mega or something, they are probably encrypted with some sort of AES. Would it be unrealistic to try decrypt that at a bitrate of 25 mbps with the Pi?
[13:52] <Amadiro> well, I get around 2-3MiB/s with sshfs, so it'd probably work, but speed may be slightly reduced
[13:53] <Amadiro> I don't know if mega allows you to use downloaders and whatnot
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[13:54] <voxadam> Well, a bit of experimentation shows that my Pi will run at 900 MHz just fine without any modifications. Though, 950 is just a bit too much for it, it immediately panics. I really should have backed up my config before I pushed it like that. Maybe I'll find a decent heatsink around to hack up and fit onto my board to see if that helps.
[13:54] <Amadiro> looks like there is MegaFS, which lets you access Mega through FUSE
[13:55] <Amadiro> and megatools
[13:56] <heksesang> Seems someone has done my work for me already. :p
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[13:59] <heksesang> My grand plan is storage of video and music files at Mega, a FUSE client on the RPi that exposes direct access to the files there and XBMC (will probably need to modify Rasbmc, unless it allows me to do this with the prebuilt image) to play the files.
[13:59] <heksesang> No idea if the RPi will choke on trying to do this. :p
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[14:02] <heksesang> Subtitles are rendered on the CPU, so might be low on CPU power to get that job done if I run a FUSE client too. But if the RPi is able to decrypt the video and audio in realtime, the H.264 circuits and DD/DTS pass-through should allow me to directly play the video and audio on the RPi without any subtitles.
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[14:06] <Davespice> hey folks
[14:07] <Davespice> looking for a volunteer with gstreamer installed to see if they can play back my camera board over the net
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[14:13] <Amadiro> heksesang, I do the same thing via ftp and sshfs, and it works for me. Even HD video doesn't require that much bandwidth.
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[14:13] <Amadiro> it can lag a little every now and then, though
[14:13] <Amadiro> and skipping is slow
[14:15] <Amadiro> (I do it purely in-LAN thouhg)
[14:17] <heksesang> I assume skipping and such will be slow. Caching might not be so effective on the RPi as it would on a more powerful device. But if I watch stuff sequentially, that should not be a problem.
[14:17] <heksesang> I just hope decrypting the files won't be too demanding.
[14:17] <Amadiro> probably not, but only one way to find out.
[14:18] <Amadiro> megafs and whatnot may be inefficient, who knows
[14:18] <heksesang> Might exist some tools to test decryption speeds on a system.
[14:19] <heksesang> Well, I can write something myself if it's just inefficiency of megafs that stops me, as long as the system is actually able to decrypt fast enough if done efficiently.
[14:21] <Amadiro> pretty sure it would be, all else ignored; 1080p video only requires around 1MiB/s or so, that should be easily attainable
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[14:22] <hifi> sshfs doesn't support random seeking, nor does ftp
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[14:25] <Amadiro> FTP supports seeking through REST
[14:25] <Amadiro> I don't know about sshfs
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[14:27] <Amadiro> from googling, looks like sshfs supports it through SSH_FXP_READ
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[14:33] <ozzzy> anyone know how close we are to be able to compile our own code to run on the VC4
[14:33] <ShiftPlusOne> ozzzy, you can do that now
[14:33] <ozzzy> ahhh... I must have missed that
[14:33] <ShiftPlusOne> https://github.com/hermanhermitage/videocoreiv
[14:34] <ShiftPlusOne> You can either replace bootcode.bin to run straight vc code with nothing else, or you can send a vc kernel from linux to execute.
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[14:34] <Amadiro> ozzzy, check out #raspberrypi-internals.
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[14:35] <ShiftPlusOne> phire is working on a LLVM compiler, while others are working on gcc. I think there was talk in packaging it up and making it more available to the masses.
[14:35] <Joeboy> dwelch has some kind of assembler I think
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[14:36] <ShiftPlusOne> aye, all the links to all the tools are on the page I linked.
[14:36] <Joeboy> https://github.com/dwelch67/rpigpu
[14:36] <ozzzy> Amadiro: thanks
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[15:11] <davor> just my luck
[15:11] <davor> got home with a soldering station and it's dead heh
[15:11] <pronto> :(
[15:12] <davor> flipped the switch, it doesn't do anything, LCD doesn't light up, the handle doesn't warm up
[15:12] <pronto> is it pluged in?
[15:12] <davor> yeah hahah
[15:12] <pronto> is it on an outlet that has a switch?
[15:12] <davor> well, back to the shop I go, good thing it's 40 minutes away... :p
[15:12] <davor> yes, the switch is on
[15:12] <pronto> 40 mintues away!?
[15:12] <davor> yeah
[15:12] <pronto> thats like
[15:12] <davor> I need to take the tram
[15:12] <pronto> far
[15:12] <davor> yes haha
[15:12] <pronto> i live accross the street from a radio shack xD
[15:12] <davor> on the other side of town
[15:12] <davor> hahaha
[15:13] <davor> lucky you man
[15:13] <davor> I have a store 10 minutes away, but their station selection is rather poor
[15:13] <pronto> normaly a bit more $ to buy from them, but this one still has the 'trays'
[15:13] <pronto> great for when i need things asap
[15:13] <davor> this is like an electronic centre, 3-story building with everything from model airplanes through GPS to electronic parts
[15:13] <pronto> o=
[15:13] <davor> yeah that's great hehe
[15:13] <SirLagz> why herro there
[15:14] <davor> hi SirLagz
[15:14] <pronto> davor: brb moving to where you are
[15:14] <davor> hahaha
[15:14] <davor> the electronics stuff is just one story, and it isn't *that* well stocked either hah
[15:14] <davor> oh well
[15:14] <davor> the sooner I leave, the sooner I'll be back
[15:14] <davor> and I *will* be back!
[15:14] <pronto> no yo wont
[15:14] <pronto> you*
[15:14] <davor> with a working station hopefully
[15:15] <davor> YESSSS, I will
[15:15] <pronto> thsi time test it at the store
[15:15] <davor> I'll have them try out the new one
[15:15] <davor> yeah was about to say haha
[15:16] <davor> socks and shoes on, cya!
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[15:25] <SirLagz> I'm currently looking at 4 different screens...I'm confusing myself lol
[15:25] <pronto> O_O
[15:25] <pronto> you need at least twice that
[15:25] <IT_Sean> ^ indeed.
[15:25] <SirLagz> lol
[15:25] <SirLagz> yeah i do
[15:25] <SirLagz> but i don't have anymore space
[15:26] <tig|> SirLagz: wall mounting, go vertical
[15:26] <SirLagz> can't, don't own the house
[15:26] <tig|> and if you run out of heads on the machine, add a second machine and use synergy :)
[15:26] <tig|> SirLagz: longer desk?
[15:26] <IT_Sean> They make desk mounts for LCDs.
[15:27] <SirLagz> tig|: yeah when I can afford it
[15:27] <IT_Sean> No. NOW!
[15:27] <IT_Sean> WE DEMAND MORE LCDS!
[15:27] <SirLagz> sure, donate me some :P
[15:28] <pronto> LCDS = Large Celery Dispensers Somewhere
[15:28] <IT_Sean> No.
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[15:28] <tig|> I have 126 leds sitting on my desk at the moment :)
[15:29] <SirLagz> my wife is laughign at me because I have so many screens atm lol
[15:29] <tig|> as my pi-lite white has arrived :)
[15:31] <SirLagz> nice
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[15:42] <dreamreal> Hi all. I'm writing to the RX/TX pins on the pi, but according to a serial monitor on the other end, I'm getting twice the signals I'm supposed to (i.e., I'm trying to send 0x81, 0x40, 0xef, and I'm getting 0x81, 0x40, 0xef, 0x81 0x40, 0xef)
[15:44] <Kane> o/
[15:46] * dreamreal is rather confused, because the serial code's logs are *definitely* showing only the right data, so either the logs are lying or the receiver is or the device driver is doing something funky
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[15:53] <hifi> oh, wow, raspbian-ua-netinst image size just halved
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[16:06] <nid0> hm
[16:06] <nid0> someone here works for vidahost right
[16:07] <nid0> megaproxy afaik?
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[16:08] <ShiftPlusOne> yeah, that's him
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[16:10] <nid0> if only he were here :(
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[16:10] <yehnan> hi, I'm learning to use RPIO http://pythonhosted.org/RPIO/pwm_py.html#ref-rpio-pwm-py , but, totally don't understand how to use PWM.add_channel_pulse
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[16:10] <SirLagz> lol. Managed to kernel panic my Pi trying to get it to be a wifi bridge
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[16:10] <yehnan> what do its last two parameters mean?
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[16:34] <dreamreal> okay, this is good and bad: I was wrong. It's not sending duplicate signals; the renderer I'm using is handling the (single) signals poorly.
[16:34] <dreamreal> How freaking odd.
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[16:41] <megaproxy> nid0, sup
[16:41] <nid0> hey
[16:41] <nid0> mind if I message you privately a sec?
[16:41] <megaproxy> yea go for it#
[16:42] <megaproxy> wat
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[16:53] <davor> back
[16:54] <davor> yep one and a half hours
[16:54] <davor> finally got home with a new, working soldering station
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[16:59] <davor> well it heats up pretty quickly, room temperature to 200°C in under a minute
[16:59] <davor> that's a welcome change from what I used to have :p
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[17:00] <troulouliou_dev> hi does pi support dts hd ma passthrough ?
[17:03] <regis> Hi. How (or which system) can I set up to be able to boot it up without external monitor? I know that it's achieveable by connecting eth port to DHCP server but I'm working on a small project which is supposed to be completely mobile (with mobile 9000mAh USB charger)
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[17:05] <mgottschlag> regis: well, it always boots, no matter whether you have a monitor attached
[17:05] <mgottschlag> but you might want to look at the 3.3V uart for another communication option, that's more common for embedded systems
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[17:07] <bts__> helllo
[17:08] <regis> mgottschlag: Thing is that I don't need any communication when it is mobile (aside from GPS). I have tried several linux distributions and freebsd10 and in every case my monitor shows 'no signal' when it is connected after powering up raspi.
[17:09] <regis> Hm, maybe it's just HDMI port that is not powered/enabled and the rest is working fine?
[17:09] <mgottschlag> regis: you want to force HDMI output, when no monitor is attached, it defaults to analog video
[17:09] <mgottschlag> look at the config.txt documentation
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[17:16] <bts__> which arm reference manual should I use? armv...?
[17:16] <mgottschlag> armv6
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[17:29] <regis> mgottschlag: It's indeed only HDMI port that's disabled when disconnected at boot time and every thing is working perfectly. Thanks!
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[18:07] <TheSeven> grr. my pi chewed up its filesystem, mostly the /etc dir
[18:07] <bigx> hi
[18:07] <Draylor> fun fun fun
[18:07] <TheSeven> and probably some bootloader binaries, it just blinks once when powering on
[18:08] <bigx> i feeling dumb, i can't even configure an ad hoc wifi connection between my computer and a pi :s
[18:08] <bigx> here's what I did : http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/86409/setup-ad-hoc-wifi any idea of what is wrong?
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[18:09] <BigShip> heya, does anyone know if minecraft pi will work on pibang?
[18:10] <BigShip> I'm getting the libglesv2.so error but the only package I can find is libgles2-mesa
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[18:31] <ShorTie> how about libgle3-dev maybe
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[18:36] <nmpro> what's going on with everyone?
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[18:40] <TheSeven> hm, is there a good lzma-squashfs + aufs overlay based distro for the pi? I'd like to prevent this kind of corruption in the future, it has happened to me for the third time now...
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[18:43] <ShorTie> corruption normally comes from not shutting down right, more hardware then software
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[18:47] <TheSeven> well, this thing is running 24/7
[18:47] <TheSeven> it started to act weird, so I ssh'ed into it and found the rootfs was remounted r/o for some reason, so I tried to reboot it => led blinks once, and it's dead
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[18:48] <TheSeven> the card might be the culprit, but I don't really care... squashfs + ramdisk overlay should make this thing much more reliable
[18:48] <TheSeven> doubt the card will corrupt itself if it doesn't get written at all
[18:51] <TheSeven> does kernel.img typically contain an initrd somehow, or does the pi typically boot without one, straight from the rootfs?
[18:52] <ShiftPlusOne> typically straight from rootfs
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[18:59] <propheticsquiddy> hello, anyone working on networked pi's?
[19:01] <IT_Sean> you are going to have to be more specific. Almost everyone in here with a Pi has had it on a network at some point.
[19:01] <PhotoJim> Both of my Pis are networked, but they do not have any distributed services between them.
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[19:02] <sney> clustering would be neat. I only have 1 pi though
[19:02] <propheticsquiddy> ty sean...i'd like to simulate it in software first, but i'd like to eventually have a few little boards networking locally via bluetooth
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[19:03] <IT_Sean> networking via bluetooth? That's a whoooole 'nother ball of hair.
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[19:04] <propheticsquiddy> hmm...guess i could just do an adhoc w/ infrared...bt prob too much for what i need anyways
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[19:06] <IT_Sean> ... ... ... why wouldn't you just use a Model B. It has a networking port on it. All the hard work is done for you.
[19:08] <nmpro> off topic question. What is a good light weight distro to use as a file server for my collection of vids, mp3, etc ?
[19:08] <propheticsquiddy> i'd like it to be able to dl code from a home server
[19:11] <troulouliou_dev> nmpro, on pi ?
[19:11] <propheticsquiddy> i've used debian in the past for a file server...tho that was version 2.0 i think....how light u need
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[19:18] <nmpro> troulouliou_dev, nah.. I'm using oe pi. This would be on intel or amd platform..
[19:19] <nmpro> troulouliou_dev, I have a REALLY old laptop that I was thinking of reusing to hold all of my media
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[19:23] <PhotoJim> nmpro: a Pi won't make a great server, but Raspbian is lightweight enough if you don't run a GUI on it. just run it in the shell only. there's a new version of it that permits a very stripped-down installation if you prefer.
[19:23] <PhotoJim> nmpro: ahh, in that case I'd recommend Debian myself, and again, no GUI. and expand the RAM (most likely).
[19:23] <PhotoJim> a GUIless server with a gig of RAM is nice and comfortable. you can certainly live with less though.
[19:29] <propheticsquiddy> i used to run a debian home server off a toshiba satellite 118cs ;)
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[19:40] <nmpro> PhotoJim, ok.. thanks for the suggestions. I'm just trying to find a lightweight distro that will run w/ out issues on my ancient laptop..
[19:40] <CeilingKitten> nmpro, if its jsut a fileserver oyu dont care too much about anything else
[19:41] <propheticsquiddy> nmpro, debian was the easiest to use for me back then, didn't have a bunch of extra garbage taking up cpu
[19:41] <CeilingKitten> you coudl try something like tinycorelinux, and only add the features you want (Starts at 10mb for a GUI os installed)
[19:41] <CeilingKitten> its got a package manager, but prolly easier to stick with debian if you know it
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[19:44] <nmpro> thanks CeilingKitten.. I'll do a live boot and check out that distro.
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[19:45] <CeilingKitten> umm other wise nmpro not sure what its base os is but SMS - Superb mini server, has everything installed already webmin, rtorret, ftp, smb, etc,.
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[19:45] <CeilingKitten> you can live boot or install but you choose which services to activate and then change the admin pass
[19:46] <CeilingKitten> nmpro ^ SMS - superb mini server maybe worth checking out too
[19:46] <nmpro> CeilingKitten, hmmm.. I think I'll download SMS and check it out..
[19:46] <propheticsquiddy> i used debian and um...mulinux...mulinux was my goto for quick+dirty jobs
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[19:51] <propheticsquiddy> mulinux ran on all my old crap
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[20:59] <gyeben> Can I force SDL on the Pi to use a specific resolution?
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[21:48] <PhotoJim> nmpro: my first server (a few years ago :) but only probably ten) was a 486sx25 with 8 MB of RAM running Debian.
[21:50] <pronto> :D
[21:51] <Encrypt> My first server has a 700 MHz ARM processor and 256Mb of RAM
[21:51] <Encrypt> =D
[21:51] <PhotoJim> I still have that machine, and aside from the /home disk that is failing, it still runs. I have an attachment to it and fire it up from time to time :)
[21:51] <PhotoJim> it has 32 MB of RAM and I put a faster processor in it so now it's a 50 MHz 486DX.
[21:51] <pronto> my frist server was a potato
[21:51] <PhotoJim> Still not fast :)
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[21:59] <steve_rox> yay for dx processor that means it will render duke 3d better :-P
[21:59] <pronto> http://www.amazon.com/Professional-Freeze-Electronic-Component-FR-777-777/dp/B000Z99ZCA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1376337405&sr=8-1&keywords=freeze+spray was playing around with this today at work ITS SOO COOL! (pun totally intended)
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[22:01] <leming> just turn a compressed air can upside down, much cheaper alternative
[22:02] <pronto> leming: except this is instant cool
[22:02] <pronto> air compress takes a second
[22:02] <pronto> and those are presicouse seconds lost when your goal is to kill a spider or somet other creepy many-legged bug
[22:04] <IT_Sean> or you could not be a pansy ninny floofer and just swat it with a newspaper, like a real man.
[22:04] <pronto> IT_Sean: thats no fun
[22:04] <pronto> freezing things!
[22:04] <pronto> its fun!
[22:04] <pronto> plus, centipedes can take a few hits of newspaper
[22:05] <steve_rox> turning a compressed air dusted upside down makes it spray out butain fluid , while very cold is a huge fire explosion hazard
[22:05] <IT_Sean> some creepy crawlies can come back after being 'frozen' you know... ...
[22:05] <ShorTie> pb blaster works preaty good on wasps
[22:05] <pronto> IT_Sean: but they're stopped, so i can shatter them
[22:05] <pronto> :D
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[22:05] <steve_rox> i guess thats why hes called leming
[22:05] <pronto> steve_rox: ooo fire
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[22:06] <steve_rox> :-)
[22:06] <pronto> http://files.righto.com/calculator/TI_calculator_simulator.html
[22:06] <pronto> should totally port that to my defcon badge
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[22:12] <Encrypt> Hi all!
[22:12] <Encrypt> Who did install PHP with NginX?
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[22:24] <BigShip> just realized this $35 computer takes care of about 95% of my computing needs. *Stares at brand new desktop accusingly*
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[22:35] <TheSeven> so, does someone happen to know if (and how) an initrd/initramfs could be loaded on a pi?
[22:36] <pksato> On some .txt on /boot
[22:36] <BigShip> Is anyone running pianobar on their pi?
[22:36] <TheSeven> is that documented somewhere?
[22:37] <TheSeven> my suspicion is that I'd have to integrate it into kernel.img in an android-like fashion, but I don't have a clue how exactly
[22:37] <pksato> http://elinux.org/RPi_config.txt
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[22:40] <pksato> TheSeven: why you need initramfs?
[22:40] <TheSeven> pksato: I'm planning to boot it from a squashfs+aufs root
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[22:42] <pksato> I dont remember how squashfs works on boot time.
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[22:44] <TheSeven> pksato: hm, now that you make me think of it... I *might* be able to get away without an initrd
[22:45] <TheSeven> but that would be a terrible hack :P
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[22:45] <kephra> most of my other systems boot an nfs root via dhcp/tftp - wondering - is this possible with PI also?
[22:45] <pksato> kephra: no.
[22:45] <IT_Sean> talking about netboot?
[22:45] <IT_Sean> Not really possible
[22:46] <IT_Sean> /boot has to reside on the SD card
[22:46] <TheSeven> kephra: you can't get away without an SD card, but you can use an NFS rootfs
[22:46] <IT_Sean> ^ that
[22:46] <TheSeven> i.e. you can cut it down to ~8MB on the SD card
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[22:52] <rikkib> I use 2gb sd cards with just boot on it.
[22:52] <rikkib> and nfs boot/root
[22:53] <TheSeven> does someone happen to have a clue what dwc_otg.lpm_enable=0 actually does?
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[22:54] <rikkib> Think something to do with the mmc interface
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[22:55] <TheSeven> sounds more like USB
[22:55] <TheSeven> the big question is: what the heck is "LPM"?
[22:56] <TheSeven> hm, sounds like it's something related to USB wakeup
[22:56] <pksato> low power mode?
[22:57] <pksato> Link Power Management
[22:57] <pksato> ?
[22:57] <TheSeven> an "LPM packet" seems to be a remote wakeup signalling packet initiated by e.g. a USB keyboard
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[22:58] <rikkib> dwc_otg.lpm_enable=0 console=tty1 root=/dev/nfs nfsroot= ip= gw-ip= netmask= hostname=alarmpi1 device=/dev/eth0 autoconf=off rootfstype=nfs elevator=deadline rootwait
[22:59] <rikkib> cmdline.txt set up0 for nfs root
[23:00] <TheSeven> console=ttyAMA0,115200 kgdboc=ttyAMA0,115200 might be a useful addition to that if you ever need to run it headless
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[23:03] <rikkib> Ahhh... Played in that area to... I have stm32v connected to rpi via serial. Took a little bit of figuring how to get rid of crud at boot time but it can be done.
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[23:10] <[ilin]> Hi, does anyone have a working Ralink 5370 USB dongle?
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[23:22] <l_r> [ilin], i should have one
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[23:22] <l_r> [ilin], i have two dongles, one is ralink for sure, but i don't remember if it's the good one or the crappy one
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[23:22] <[ilin]> l_r: does it work with raspbian? or you need new drivers?
[23:23] <l_r> [ilin], if it's the one giving problems, it used to disconnect me often from the network
[23:23] <l_r> with the default drivers
[23:23] <l_r> do you have similar problems?
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[23:24] <[ilin]> for me it does not work at all
[23:24] <[ilin]> but I am trying this solution now http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=51234
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[23:27] <[ilin]> l_r: yeah now it is detected properly
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[23:27] <[ilin]> lets see if it works
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[23:59] <TheSeven> hm... so does the kernel in hexxeh's rpi-firmware repository even support initramfs?

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