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IRC Log for 2013-08-15

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[0:24] <Datalink> http://illogicallabs.com/paste/00000008.txt I love how one of the reponses I've gotten was "the Pi can't do that" x.x
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[0:32] <funkster> Datalink: taking screenshot of video?
[0:33] * lupinedk is now known as Lupinedk
[0:33] <Datalink> funkster, not yet, taking slideshows and webcasting them, though I will need to switch to a framebuffer grab when omxplayer has to be added
[0:34] <Datalink> I work in PEG channels as an engineer, I solve odd problems constantly
[0:34] <Datalink> one was to use a RPi as a messageboard for the city channel
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[0:35] <funkster> niice!
[0:37] <Datalink> yeah, grand total invested, 80 per machine, 2 units, the backup unit I currently use for development but I'll later turn into a machine for other stuff, haven't worked out what just yet
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[0:42] <kephra> Datalink, there are sometimes special greasemonkey scripts that can tell you credentials for adobe rtmp
[0:43] <Datalink> kephra, that'd be nice if we interfaced with that, we mainly interface with an appliance computer called a TriCaster or an appliance called a LiveShell.pro
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[0:44] <kephra> btw, how good/bad is rpi as video station - i know that h264 is supported by hardware, but most videos are avi or flv or mp4
[0:44] <kephra> or mkv ... or wtf
[0:44] <Datalink> we make the videos, I know they'll be the right format because that's what I'll be instructing our staff to render them as
[0:44] <kephra> i guess the pi is slower then my transmeta 800
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[0:50] <funkster> anyone using an lcd screen 16x2 or similar size?
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[0:50] <waterbury> I'm not
[0:50] <waterbury> actually
[0:50] <waterbury> no, I am
[0:50] * propheticsquiddy is back (gone 05:57:46)
[0:50] <waterbury> lcd character device
[0:50] <waterbury> ?
[0:51] <waterbury> funkster: http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:26164
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[0:52] <funkster> waterbury: niice! i need one just like that
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[0:53] <propheticsquiddy> whoa transmeta's still makin microcontrollers? hmm
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[1:03] <djapo> i updated my kernel today and this error happens at boot unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address
[1:03] <djapo> djapo: more of the error can be seen here http://imgur.com/4swdn0p
[1:04] <propheticsquiddy> welcome back keel
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[1:05] <djapo> djapo: oops the url is actually here http://imgur.com/4swdnOp
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[1:29] <Datalink> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPq7OF3fkcE CPU history for those interested... well, teardown of the first ARM computer
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[1:34] <SpeedEvil> Neat
[1:35] <Datalink> yeah, except the thing's trashed due to a battery leak
[1:35] <Datalink> :/
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[1:46] <propheticsquiddy> hmm looking for a good ARM microcontroller board
[1:47] <propheticsquiddy> freescale cortex m0+ looks nice
[1:47] <plugwash> as he admits in the video it wasn't the first archimedes model
[1:52] <TheSeven> propheticsquiddy: I think the STM32F4DISCOVERY board is awesome, considering the rather powerful chip and rather low price
[1:53] <TheSeven> oh, and it has integrated SWD debugger hardware, that can also be used to debug external microcontrollers
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[1:56] <plugwash> the A3000 was kinda weird in a way as it was the only archimedies in that form factor (which is reminiscent of the BBV micro). Previous archimedies models were of the seperate main unit and keyboard style and the successors to the A3000 were in a case with integrated keyboard like the A3000 but with much less depth
[1:56] <funkster> so im looking to use an led indicator light on my RPi. will wire it and mount it to a box its in, so many many volts/amps can the light be to power off the RPi?
[1:57] <funkster> how many*
[1:58] <propheticsquiddy> hmm....looking @ the stm32f4discovery
[2:00] <chithead> https://projects.drogon.net/raspberry-pi/gpio-examples/tux-crossing/gpio-examples-1-a-single-led/
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[2:04] <funkster> chithead: the leds i choose from to buy have different volts/amps so i dont know which to buy
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[2:36] <pksato> off, why arduino relay modules are activated by low level?
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[3:25] <monorail_> Where is the best place to purchase a pi in Canada? I've looked canada.newark.com but I've seen some people having issues with them. Is there a better place to purchase them from?
[3:27] <Mogwai> monorail_: Never had a problem with newark .. I've ordered 3 pi's and the camera module from them .. what kind of issues were the other people reporting?
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[3:28] <monorail_> Mogwai: things like spam and delayed shipments, that sort of thing. Personally I'm bothered by the fact that it isn't going to tell me how much shipping will cost until I've committed to buying it from there...
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[3:31] <leming> newark does have a pretty bad online ordering system
[3:31] <monorail_> It appears to assume that I'm a company.
[3:31] <Mogwai> monorail_: That's odd .. I'm pretty sure I was able to see the final price before hitting the order button
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[3:31] <NullMoogleCable> im i bad for installing synaptic on my pi ?
[3:32] <monorail_> Mogwai: It's telling me that it won't be able to calculate the shipping cost because it doesn't know how much everything in my order weighs. That might be because of the power supply I'm purchasing, though.
[3:34] <monorail_> I guess I'll get it from Newark. Thanks.
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[3:55] <TheSeven> what calls /etc/network/if-up.d/*? I would have naively expected that it's the ifup command, but apparently it doesn't...
[3:57] <pksato> ifup
[3:57] <pksato> have . on file name?
[4:00] <TheSeven> no... and I can't see where the ifup script even attempts to call these scripts in there
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[4:01] <Phoon> Is raspi-config smart enough to expand a root filesystem that isn't on the SD card?
[4:01] <pksato> have a exec flag?
[4:02] <TheSeven> yes
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[4:02] <pksato> if is a script, first line have reference to interpleter ex.: #!/bin.sh
[4:02] <pksato> ?
[4:03] * McBofh quibbles -- itym #!/bin/sh
[4:04] * [Saint] loves a good pedant.
[4:04] <[Saint]> Well done, Sir or Madam.
[4:04] * McBofh bows
[4:04] <McBofh> sir
[4:04] <pksato> oh...
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[4:09] <McBofh> TheSeven: I think it's actually /etc/init.d/networking, which then appears to depend on behaviour of /sbin/ifup
[4:09] <Phoon> If I have two USB drives attached, how do I ensure one is always /dev/sda and the other is /dev/sdb? I'm trying to put my root FS on a USB stick, and I already have another USB HD attached.
[4:10] <Phoon> Barring that, is there a way to mount based on volume names instead of device nodes?
[4:11] <Phoon> Or some other attribute of the filesystem?
[4:11] <TheSeven> hm, turns out that I might have been using a wrong ifup/ifdown
[4:11] <TheSeven> somehow the "netscripts" package had grabbed those...
[4:11] <TheSeven> but I probably need the ones from the "ifupdown" package
[4:12] <TheSeven> Phoon: the recommended way is to mount them based on the file system UUID
[4:12] <Phoon> Do FAT32 drives have UUIDs?
[4:12] <TheSeven> the 8-digit volume serial number is used for those
[4:13] <Phoon> TheSeven: I can specify a UUID for the root FS, right?
[4:13] <TheSeven> should work
[4:14] <TheSeven> IIRC it needs to be specified as "root=UUID=0123-ABCD"
[4:14] <TheSeven> use the blkid tool to figure out the UUID value
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[4:16] <Phoon> okay, I think I've got this. I guess I'll use the SD card root partition one last time so I can get the UUIDs
[4:17] <Phoon> (Kinda sad using an 8GB SD card to hold 50MB of data)
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[4:18] <apo> heh
[4:18] <apo> my / holds 6MB of data
[4:19] <Phoon> Sadder still: buying a 16GB USB stick to replace it
[4:19] <Phoon> (it's the only one they had in the form factor I wanted)
[4:19] <TheSeven> Phoon: you can get the UUIDs on any linux system
[4:19] <apo> using the smallest SD card I could find for it... which is still 2GB
[4:19] <TheSeven> 6MB is indeed impressive
[4:19] <apo> but I guess at least that way I'll be able to have... uh, a /lot/ of logging data
[4:20] <TheSeven> my fairly minimal setup is 31MB already and still doesn't work
[4:20] <apo> I think mine has... runit, busybox, dropbear, and a custom application that's about 600kB
[4:21] <Phoon> Mine is pretty much a stock official Raspbian. I was referring specifically to /boot.
[4:21] <Phoon> After this is done, that's all that will be on the SD card
[4:21] * TheSeven is referring to / of a stripped down raspbian
[4:21] <apo> mine's all custom-built
[4:21] * TheSeven is too lazy to crosscompile all of that stuff
[4:21] <Phoon> All mine runs most of the time is transmission-daemon
[4:21] <apo> it's not that much, really
[4:22] <Phoon> (and a couple of daemons like netatalk and avahi)
[4:22] <TheSeven> well, I need python, udev and some other stuff like that on my setup
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[4:35] <funkster> so i just need a simple external led, would i just need a 5-10mm led, a 270 resistor and some wire?
[4:36] <TheSeven> 5-10mm seems excessive, but apart from that, it sounds right :)
[4:37] <apo> http://led.linear1.org/1led.wiz
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[4:46] <funkster> is there a tutorial on where to connect the led light on the board?
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[4:47] <TheSeven> http://elinux.org/RPi_Low-level_peripherals
[4:47] <pksato> funkster: the magpi
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[5:04] <Phoon> ... I just realized something
[5:04] <Phoon> Both my SD card filesystems and USB stick filesystems have the same UUIDs, as they were both installed via dd
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[5:09] <PReDiToR> Can't that be fixed by changing the serial number?
[5:11] <pksato> use tune2fs to change
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[5:18] * [Saint] built himself a nice PSU that kept expanding as a project due to unexpectedly cheap parts and parts availability.
[5:18] <[Saint]> 20amp...think that's enough for the pi? :P
[5:19] <[Saint]> (disclaimer: knows all too well it is - humorous intent implied)
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[5:22] <McBofh> [Saint]: is it ready to POWER ALL THE THINGS yet?
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[5:23] <[Saint]> At least some things. Yes. But I'd much rather it had a case before that. No project boxes of adequate size around.
[5:24] <[Saint]> Breadboard PSUs are fun and all..but, zappy-zap-zap, etc.
[5:24] <McBofh> yeah, been there, zzzt zzzzzzzzt that
[5:24] <McBofh> zzzzzt is unfun
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[5:25] <[Saint]> I doubt I could recall all the times I have introduced electricity to my body through foolishness.
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[5:26] <[Saint]> I *really* got bit at my old place, when I found an undocumented mains wire stealing power from the neighbors and thought (rather rightly) that with the power off at the mains, and the switchboard, it would be safe to work on.
[5:27] <[Saint]> 240V of mains level ouchies.
[5:27] <McBofh> yah
[5:28] <McBofh> we had some kitchen renos done last month; before the sparky came back to put the GPOs back on the wall post-tiling, I went to connect our microwave. Made the mistake of moving my fingers for a better grip (at the back of the cabinet) .... zip
[5:28] <McBofh> zip
[5:28] <McBofh> zip
[5:28] <McBofh> zap
[5:28] <McBofh> fell off the ladder
[5:28] <McBofh> yay for earth-leakage detector safety switch
[5:29] <[Saint]> Someone, around ~40 years ago or more, had re-wired a single socket in the lounge room to steal power from the adjoining apartment.
[5:29] <McBofh> naughty
[5:29] <steve_rox2> fun
[5:29] <[Saint]> I later found out that my apartment was where the original architecht/buildider/owner lived :)
[5:29] * steve_rox2 is now known as steve_rox
[5:29] <steve_rox> sounds cost effective re wireing
[5:31] <[Saint]> This wasn't some dodgy job that a tenant of the flat had cooked up long ago, looking at the wiring when I got a chance (after a house fire...ugggh, that was crap), it was a very deliberate act that was done when the flats were refurbished at some stage.
[5:31] <[Saint]> I've seen a lot of dodgy wiring hacks in my line of work.
[5:31] <steve_rox> even use the right grade of wire?
[5:32] <[Saint]> It was all certifiable, for the time, yes.
[5:32] <steve_rox> interestin
[5:32] <[Saint]> ...were it not illegal and all. :)
[5:32] <steve_rox> agh im near passing out here
[5:33] <steve_rox> been playing payday most the night robbing banks etc
[5:33] <[Saint]> The amount of times I have discovered clients subverting power meters is countless.
[5:33] <[Saint]> As is the number of times I have seen fuses replaced with 8 gauge fencing wire.
[5:33] <steve_rox> haha
[5:33] <[Saint]> " 'cos the fuse kept blowing out"
[5:34] <steve_rox> greaaaat
[5:34] <[Saint]> :)
[5:34] <steve_rox> crazy diy electronics
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[5:34] <[Saint]> I did do, still occasionally do do, local network planning and installation and home theater wiring for new/existing homes.
[5:35] <[Saint]> Seen it all over the years.
[5:35] <steve_rox> i better brb before i pass out
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[5:36] <[Saint]> o/
[5:36] <steve_rox> so tired
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[5:38] <[Saint]> My personal favorite job was a house built in 1890ish that had horrible zinc pipe conduit system for the wiring which was partially obscured in a million places by brickwork. The original wiring wasn't color coded, and the new wiring for the house was "color coded" but the electrician was either color blind opr making it up as he went along.
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[5:39] <propheticsquiddy> lol
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[5:41] <[Saint]> some areas had red used for earth, some used it for negative, in one room every single wire was blue so where it came into the room via the conduit when we peeked inside all we could see was ~8 blue cables and we had to painstakingly test each one to find out what they were.
[5:41] <[Saint]> In most of the house the red/black positive/negative scheme was reversed.
[5:41] <[Saint]> Old houses are nightmarish sometimes.
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[5:47] <Phoon> ... dammit
[5:47] <Phoon> apparently root=UUID=whatever isn't supported in Raspbian
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[6:07] <steve_rox> fun times
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[6:21] <propheticsquiddy> wb kindone
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[6:26] <funkster> i should be able to power this off the RPi gpio with a resistor, yes? http://www.newark.com/cml-innovative-technologies/19040351/indicator-led-panel-5mm-green-24v/dp/93K6705
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[7:28] <[Saint]> How "Just Works" is CMA in Arch?
[7:29] <[Saint]> I notice the config defines the low/high watermark and offline start level, but the coherent pool isn't defined in cmdline.txt, is this no longer required?
[7:30] <[Saint]> I was under the understanding that cmdline.txt needed to include "coherent_pool=6M"
[7:30] <hifi> what I've mostly seen about house wiring is brown, blue and additionally yellow/green striped for grounding
[7:30] <[Saint]> s/6/whatever floats your boat/
[7:31] <hifi> it's actually the only thing I've seen in any house, even quite old ones
[7:33] <[Saint]> has anyone any experience with CMA in general?
[7:33] <[Saint]> I was under the understanding it "Just Worked" in ARch, but, not so, apparently.
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[9:23] <nutcase> at times I think I have too many pis then others I think I do not have enough
[9:23] <nutcase> lol
[9:23] <nutcase> I just wish something with a better cpu to come out in the same price range
[9:23] <hifi> there are
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[9:24] <nutcase> there are better devices in that price range?
[9:24] <hifi> http://beagleboard.org/Products/BeagleBone%20Black
[9:25] <nutcase> cool
[9:25] <nutcase> not quite what I want yet
[9:25] <nutcase> they are getting there
[9:25] <nid0> well, its something with a better cpu in the same price range
[9:26] <nutcase> yeah
[9:26] <nutcase> how much better is the cpu actually?
[9:26] <nid0> and faster storage and proper ethernet
[9:26] <nutcase> cause I treat the pi like it doesnt have one
[9:26] <nutcase> :P
[9:26] <nutcase> gbit?
[9:26] <nid0> no
[9:27] <nutcase> there is something new that has dual gbit ports and shit on it coming out
[9:27] <nutcase> I forget its name
[9:27] <nutcase> that looked sick
[9:28] <hifi> the pi was intended as an educational device
[9:28] <propheticsquiddy> at first...
[9:28] <nutcase> I know that
[9:28] <nutcase> I am using it to learn
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[9:28] <nutcase> but you can also use it for porjects which would involve learning
[9:28] <nutcase> :)
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[13:32] <mpmc> Hey folks, I need some advice, I have three Pi's [r2 256 with Hynix RAM + 256 with SAMSUNG RAM & r7 512 with SAMSUNG RAM], The Pi with the Hynix RAM is the problem here, after a few hours idle the SD cards get extremely hot and the Pi refuses to boot, these SD cards all work fine with the other Pi's they get nowhere as hot and work without a problem. Could I have a faulty Pi?
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[13:33] <[Saint]> Well...you can't fix it, so, return it.
[13:33] <[Saint]> Initiate a warranty reclaim.
[13:35] <[Saint]> This genuinely sounds like defective hardware, most retailers should be happy to accept the unit back, even if it is outside of the technical warranty period.
[13:35] <[Saint]> Trying wouldn't hurt, at least.
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[13:44] <mpmc> [Saint]: This is the very first Pi I ordered from RS components and I'm pretty sure it's out of warranty now so I doubt they'll do anything. I'll have to check when I ordered it and contact RS.
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[13:46] <[Saint]> It can't hurt to try.
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[13:48] <mpmc> Damn it lol, 11 May 2012, so out of warranty.
[13:50] <ShorTie> you could try to reflow it
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[13:51] <ShorTie> i find it hard to believe the brand of ram is the cause
[13:52] <mpmc> I doubt it is the RAM.
[13:52] <ShorTie> more like an unwanted electrical pulse is the cause
[13:53] <mpmc> But that's the only thing different to the other 256 Pi I have.
[13:53] <[Saint]> have you checked the sdcard contacts on the board?
[13:53] <mpmc> I've changed whats powering it, the sd slot still gets extremely hot.
[13:53] <[Saint]> a lose contact could cause an arc, causing heat.
[13:54] <[Saint]> bend 'em all out slightly.
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[13:54] <[Saint]> or, do you have some contact grease?
[13:54] <[Saint]> that'd do it.
[13:54] <ShorTie> rub a pencil ereaser over the to clean them
[13:54] <mpmc> [Saint]: I have WD40 lol.
[13:55] <[Saint]> that's non-conductive.
[13:55] <mpmc> I know, it was a joke xD
[13:56] <[Saint]> I'd try bending the contacts out slightly, maybe giving them a wipe with rubbing alcohol.
[13:56] <mpmc> I'll have a look at the contacts..
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[14:00] <RaTTuS|BIG> what else do you have plugged in
[14:01] <mpmc> Into the Pi? Nothing at all.
[14:02] <mpmc> apart from the usb hub that powers it and an ethernet.
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[14:24] <CheckMatt> Hello
[14:25] <CheckMatt> Is there anyone who already got his Pi with The Pi Hut ?
[14:26] <mpmc> ShorTie: Looks like your eraser tip did the trick. I've just done an rpi-update, which I couldn't reboot from previously and now it's rebooting, the sdcard isn't as hot ether.. How this works I'll never know!
[14:27] <mpmc> CheckMatt: Whats the problem?
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[14:28] <CheckMatt> mpmc: I have some questions, i want to know if the Pi-View adaptator is a good quality and if The Pi Hut delivers in France ?
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[14:30] <mpmc> CheckMatt: I have one of those 'Pi-view' things, It's really just a bog standard Chinese import that the Pi hut have overpriced! got mine for about £6 odd, and it's fine.
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[14:32] <CheckMatt> mpmc: ok thank you for the information. Do you think this type of adaptator will be fine ? http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00CH07AC2/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A1ZKG9B72CK840
[14:32] <mpmc> CheckMatt: heres the exact same thing http://www.amazon.co.uk/Cable-Matters-Active-Female-Adapter/dp/B007SM7O2U/
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[14:33] <mpmc> CheckMatt: That should work, but I've never used it, at £6 its worth a shot :p
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[14:35] <CheckMatt> mpmc: I will try, in the product i found, there a 5V power supply for the adaptator... Other question : if I buy from Amazon.co.uk, (I am French) is there many taxes during the payment ?
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[14:36] <mpmc> CheckMatt: I don't know about that, you may have to pay your countries import tax or whatever though, I think Amazon would warn you anyway.
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[14:39] <CheckMatt> mpmc: Ok... What do you think about a 700mA power supply if I connect a keyboard and sometimes a smartphone ?
[14:40] <mpmc> CheckMatt: It's a bit low..
[14:41] <CheckMatt> For the smartphone... But perhaps, if i turn off the usb port power for the smartphone, it will be good ? Do you think a power supply like this (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Micro-Supply-Charger-Raspberry-Pi/dp/B00B0ZNF5G/) is a godd solution ?
[14:42] <mpmc> Looks okay to me :)
[14:42] <mpmc> I personally use a powered USB hub.
[14:42] <Encrypt> CheckMatt, Do you already have a Raspberry Pi ?
[14:43] <Encrypt> Because as mpmc says, a powered USB hub is a far better solution to power the Pi and accessories
[14:43] <CheckMatt> Encrypt: No, I want to buy for the next year
[14:43] <Encrypt> Then, just buy a powered USB Hub ;)
[14:43] <Encrypt> CheckMatt, http://www.dlink.com/us/en/home-solutions/connect/usb/dub-h7-7-port-usb-2-0-hub
[14:44] <Encrypt> This kind of thing for example
[14:44] <Encrypt> There are two fast-charging ports of 1000mA
[14:45] <CheckMatt> Is it really necessary for my utilisation ? No mouse, just one keybord, that's all. Sometimes a smartphone to tethering...
[14:45] <Encrypt> CheckMatt, I personally have a hard-drive docking station with an integrated Hub
[14:46] <Encrypt> CheckMatt, Well... buying a simple charger in your case should be fine I imagine...
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[14:48] <CheckMatt> Ok.. I think it's cheaper and if it don't work in this case i will buy a powered hub. And what's the better place in your opinion ? Amazon, kubii.fr, The Pi Hut ?
[14:49] <Encrypt> CheckMatt, It depends... Where do you live?
[14:49] <CheckMatt> In France
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[15:01] <[7]> hm, looks like I've squeezed that whole system (including python 3.3 and a ~3.5MB firmware blob for some custom hardware) down to ~14MB
[15:01] <[7]> with stock raspbian binaries, dbus, udev, ...
[15:01] <[7]> upstart
[15:01] <Tachyon`> hrm
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[15:02] <heywire12> hi every one!
[15:04] <heywire12> i'm looking for a answer to http://www.reddit.com/r/raspberry_pi/comments/1kd76r/i_want_offline_web_map_server_on_raspberry_pi/ this.
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[15:04] <heywire12> any one help me?
[15:06] <IT_Sean> why don't you ask your question here, instead of making everyone click on a link.
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[15:11] <Encrypt> heywire12, Just install NginX and do not open port 80 on your router
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[15:16] <[7]> a whoppin' 573.4kB free space on this SD card! :)
[15:20] <SirLagz> nice.
[15:20] <SirLagz> anyone got a copy of the kernel source handy ?
[15:20] <SirLagz> 3.6.11 ?
[15:21] <[7]> https://github.com/raspberrypi/linux
[15:21] <SirLagz> that keeps failing on me
[15:21] <SirLagz> trying to download through chrome, get up to 100megs then get a network failure
[15:21] <SirLagz> yesterday I couldn't even get 5 megs
[15:21] <[7]> try "git clone https://github.com/raspberrypi/linux.git"
[15:22] <[7]> it will take a while but work
[15:22] <SirLagz> ah true. should have thought of that lol
[15:22] <SirLagz> derp.
[15:23] * [7] wonders if the pi's bootloader can handle FAT12
[15:23] * [7] guesses not
[15:24] <SirLagz> why not...fat32 drivers are generally backwards compatible aren't they
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[15:30] <[7]> FAT12 is a PITA, lots of special cases compared to fat16/32
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[15:30] <[7]> and the pi refuses to boot from a fat12 formatted card
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[15:34] <SirLagz> lol, guess i was wrong
[15:35] <doc-saintly> package architecture (armel) does not match system (armhf)
[15:35] <doc-saintly> ??
[15:35] <doc-saintly> http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=5207 <- Shows it
[15:35] <[7]> where did you get that package from?
[15:36] <[7]> well, looks like that proprietary package isn't compiled for armv7 hard float systems
[15:37] <mgottschlag> the pi is armv6 btw, hard float or not
[15:37] <mgottschlag> ah, sorry, misread it
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[15:38] <[7]> or v6... whatever, old crap ARMs :)
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[15:39] <mgottschlag> doc-saintly: you can install a soft-float debian on the pi btw, maybe that solves the problem
[15:39] <mgottschlag> but it will certainly decrease the performance
[15:39] <[7]> one of the posts in that thread suggests that it might work regardless if you force installation (probably because it doesn't use floating point at all?)
[15:39] <[7]> sudo dpkg --force-architecture --force-depends -i logmein-hamachi_2.1.0.68-1_armel.deb
[15:40] <mgottschlag> hm, actually it should indeed just work and emulate floating point instructions
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[15:40] <mgottschlag> at least if all libraries are statically linked
[15:41] <mgottschlag> if not, then that should cause quite some problems because interfaces are incompatible
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[15:46] * [7] also wonders why screen just says "[screen is terminating]" as a normal user while it works just fine as root
[15:46] <[7]> /var/run/screen/S-<username> is owned and writeable by the user
[15:47] <SpeedEvil> strace can be useful
[15:47] <SpeedEvil> Generally several syscalls back from the 'write("screen is terminating") call is the problem
[15:47] <SpeedEvil> Great for apps without proper debug output
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[15:48] <[7]> I already tried that but didn't find anything conclusive
[15:49] <[7]> http://paste.pm/969.c
[15:50] <[7]> hm, that was truncated :/
[15:50] <mgottschlag> "(15:41:13) ***[7] wonders if there are any syscalls taking floating point args in VFP regs" - isn't floating point completely disallowed in the kernel?
[15:50] <[7]> no ida
[15:50] <[7]> no idea*
[15:51] <[7]> fixed strace output: http://paste.pm/96a.c
[15:52] <[7]> ...or not
[15:52] <[7]> stupid pastebin
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[15:53] <[7]> finally: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5989104/
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[15:58] <[7]> aha, missing +s bit on /usr/lib/pt_chown, whatever that is
[15:59] <pronto> anyone know how to get the CPU temp of the rpi, when running freebsd
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[16:03] <[Saint]> pronto: /opt/vc/bin/vcgencmd measure_temp
[16:03] <[Saint]> or,
[16:03] <[Saint]> cat /sys/class/thermal/thermal_zone0/temp
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[16:04] <[Saint]> the former is guaranteed to exist, iiuc.
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[16:04] <[Saint]> you can also check the voltage with:
[16:05] <[Saint]> /opt/vc/bin/vcgencmd measure_volts {core|sdram_c|sdram_i|sdram_p}
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[16:05] <[Saint]> core voltage, sdram core voltage, sdram I/O voltage, and PHY voltage
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[16:06] <pronto> [Saint]: there is no /opt/ or /sys/
[16:07] <[Saint]> freebsd isn't using *any* of the videocore firmware?
[16:07] <[Saint]> ...interesting.
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[16:08] <[Saint]> try grepping for vcgencmd
[16:08] <pronto> [Saint]: not sure what that means
[16:08] <[Saint]> perhaps its hiding
[16:08] <pronto> i did a find
[16:08] <pronto> didnt see it
[16:08] <pronto> though i cancled it
[16:08] <[Saint]> that's messed up.
[16:11] <pronto> didnt see it
[16:11] <pronto> :(
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[16:17] <doc-saintly> So you guys think it'd work fine if I just force the install?
[16:18] <mgottschlag> I think we think that it *might* work fine. :p
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[16:18] <mgottschlag> also, just try it
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[16:19] <mgottschlag> unless your situation is critical and must not fail
[16:20] <doc-saintly> hehe, well, I still have some time to test it out.
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[16:36] <Davespice> folks, I just noticed the latest Raspbian sd card image comes with wayland
[16:37] <Davespice> you just need to enter
[16:37] <Davespice> mkdir -p /run/shm/wayland
[16:37] <Davespice> export XDG_RUNTIME_DIR="/run/shm/wayland"
[16:37] <Davespice> weston
[16:38] <Davespice> ctrl-alt-backspace to quit, and on a PC keyboard press the windows key to sort/shuffle
[16:39] <Davespice> its so fast! :)
[16:42] <[7]> theseven@rpi:~$ top
[16:42] <[7]> top: symbol lookup error: /lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/libncurses.so.5: undefined symbol: _nc_putchar
[16:42] <[7]> theseven@rpi:~$ htop
[16:42] <[7]> htop: symbol lookup error: /lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/libncursesw.so.5: undefined symbol: _nc_putchar
[16:42] <[7]> someone ever ran into that?
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[17:03] <CrazyGadget> hi, im running raspbian, and when i started out, my hdmi wasn't workking, do i switched to a monitor with composite, but the screen resolution is way messed up. Can anybody shed some light?
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[17:07] <Davespice> CrazyGadget: if you use composite your resolution will be a lot lower, thats the limitation with using composite out
[17:07] <Davespice> what kind of monitor were you trying to use with hdmi?
[17:09] <Davespice> I would suggest to have a read of this too; http://elinux.org/R-Pi_Troubleshooting#No_HDMI_output_at_all
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[17:14] <CrazyGadget> i was trying to use an acer X203H with an hdmi to dvi-d converter
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[17:16] <Davespice> ah right
[17:17] <Davespice> okay, so are you aware of the config.txt file?
[17:17] <Davespice> it will be on the first partition of the SD card after you have burnt the OS to it
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[17:23] <CrazyGadget> im real new to this, so no, i did not know
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[17:28] <Davespice> okay so this is a file which you can edit to set options
[17:29] <CrazyGadget> ok
[17:29] <Davespice> if you look at the SD card on windows you should see the file
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[17:30] <Davespice> the config likes that go setting=1 etc (see the link I gave above) go in this file
[17:30] <Davespice> try hdmi_drive=1
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[17:32] <CrazyGadget> ok, i typed hdmi_safe=1 and nothing happened
[17:33] <Davespice> you have to edit config.txt, append hdmi_safe=1, save the file and then reboot the Pi to see the effect
[17:33] <CrazyGadget> how do i get into the config.txt
[17:34] <CrazyGadget> note- i have composite on the left side of my screen, and i have the hdmi/dvi-d on the right
[17:35] <pksato> can use tvservice to switch between cbs and hdmi. (or not?)
[17:36] <CrazyGadget> what?
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[17:43] <CrazyGadget> how do i get into the config.txt file
[17:44] <sney> mount your boot partition
[17:44] <IT_Sean> Mount the boot partition of the SD and use a text editor
[17:44] <CrazyGadget> i doont know how...
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[17:44] <pksato> if is on rpi, nd root user, nano /boot/config.txt
[17:45] <CrazyGadget> im in, now what
[17:47] <CrazyGadget> Davespice: I'm in the config file, now what do i do?
[17:47] <CrazyGadget> oh, i have no write permission
[17:47] <IT_Sean> <Davespice> you have to edit config.txt, append hdmi_safe=1, save the file and then reboot the Pi to see the effec
[17:47] <Davespice> CrazyGadget: what os are you using to edit the file? Windows?
[17:48] <CrazyGadget> im using the pi
[17:48] <CrazyGadget> but i have no write permission
[17:48] <IT_Sean> sudo nano /boot/config.txt
[17:48] <pksato> finda hdmi_safe line, remove # at line start (if exists) and hdmi_safe=1, salve (crtl+x) and reboot (sudo reboot)
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[17:50] <CrazyGadget> rebooting
[17:50] <Davespice> so if you're using the Pi, I presume you're using composite out?
[17:50] <CrazyGadget> ah yes, i worked
[17:50] <Davespice> okay well, hdmi_safe=1 gives you 640x480 which is low low res
[17:50] <Davespice> try it again but using hdmi_drive=1, and see if you get a better rez
[17:51] <CrazyGadget> im on hdmi, and it looks a hell of a lot better, thank you so much
[17:51] <ShiftPlusOne> >_< http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-08-15/hairy-dog-disguised-as-lion/4890386
[17:51] <pksato> ok, hdmi cable and moniutor works. next, put it on right resolution
[17:52] <IT_Sean> ShiftPlusOne: AHAHAHA
[17:52] <Davespice> yep, so CrazyGadget, you need to remove hdmi_safe=1, put back the # and add a new line saying hdmi_drive=1
[17:52] <CrazyGadget> ok, how do i set resolution
[17:53] <pksato> wait...
[17:53] <CrazyGadget> everything is still very big... and there are black lines around the screen
[17:54] <pksato> edit config.txt again, and append these lines
[17:54] <pksato> hdmi_safe=0
[17:54] <pksato> hdmi_force_hotplug=1
[17:54] <pksato> hdmi_drive=1
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[17:54] <ShiftPlusOne> Davespice, isn't hdmi_drive for audio?
[17:54] <CrazyGadget> hold on i'm rebooting
[17:55] <pksato> hdmi_group=2
[17:55] <Davespice> its a switch between dvi and hdmi modes
[17:55] <Davespice> 1 is for DVI and 2 is for HDMI
[17:55] <ShiftPlusOne> hm
[17:56] <pksato> some cases, max resolution is not detected correct, to set in 1024x768 hdmi_mode=16
[17:56] <Davespice> its been associated with audio because sometimes people need to set it to hdmi in the config to get audio over hdmi
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[17:56] <ShiftPlusOne> I don't like hdmi >=/.,.. doesn't seem standardised enough. Or maybe the standard allows for too much variation.
[17:59] <johnc-> the cable? the protocol? the formats?
[17:59] <ShiftPlusOne> the everything
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[18:00] <ShiftPlusOne> well, not so much the cable... but the rest of it >=/
[18:00] <johnc-> I'm not really a fan of the on the wire encryption
[18:00] <ShiftPlusOne> Actually you know what, the cable as well... why not
[18:00] <pksato> signal/protocols vga dvi dp and hdmi
[18:00] <CrazyGadget> appended hdmi_safe=0, hdmi_force_hotplug=1, hdmi_drive=1, and changed hdmi_group from 1 to 2. Everything sound good?
[18:01] <[Saint]> But...but..but!
[18:01] <[Saint]> If there wasn't cable variation, how could I feel good about spending $60K on HDMI cabling? :P
[18:02] <pksato> CrazyGadget: stop.
[18:02] <pksato> you have other sd cardreader?
[18:02] <[Saint]> ...hammer time!
[18:02] <[Saint]> awww, too late.
[18:02] <CrazyGadget> yea...
[18:03] <CrazyGadget> i didn't save the chages yet
[18:03] <pksato> if fails, you need to use other computer to edit config.txt
[18:03] <ShiftPlusOne> [Saint], fair enough... how else would you get crystal quality, vibrant video and crisp sound. Clearly the skin effect eats up the pixels, so you must have gold plating on everything.
[18:03] <pksato> save and reboot
[18:03] <SpeedEvil> ShiftPlusOne: Not good enough.
[18:03] <CrazyGadget> still in the file, havent changed saved. Should i
[18:03] <SpeedEvil> YBCuO - cryogenic.
[18:04] <ShiftPlusOne> heh, nice
[18:04] <CrazyGadget> do i save?
[18:04] <[Saint]> Don't forget to visit coconutaudio for your audio cabling! :P
[18:05] <johnc-> my wife isn't a dumb lady, she's quite clever, I have to explain to her that all hdmi cables do the same thing each time we buy one
[18:05] <CrazyGadget> hello?
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[18:05] <ShiftPlusOne> CrazyGadget, what do you think?
[18:05] <CrazyGadget> yes?
[18:06] <ShiftPlusOne> Why edit a file and then close without saving? O_o
[18:06] <[Saint]> ShiftPlusOne: see http://www.coconut-audioshop.com/ for a good laugh
[18:06] <[Saint]> That nutcase has been booted off practically every audiophile forum known to man.
[18:06] <[Saint]> Genuinely insane.
[18:06] <IT_Sean> johnc-: Actually, that's not true... you need to watch the HDMI version. Not all cables support CEC, or Ethernet over HDMI. :p
[18:06] <CrazyGadget> rebooting
[18:06] <ShiftPlusOne> [Saint], I don't know what you're talking about... look at the testimonials... seems legit.
[18:07] <johnc-> IT_Sean: oh I didn't know about CEC
[18:07] <johnc-> IT_Sean: though, it's hard to find an affordable TV that supports CEC anyway
[18:07] <ShiftPlusOne> heh "For skeptics we have a question, what if our products work? Think about it...But don't think too long, the gold train is rolling by and soon it's too late. For the skeptics who are laughing at our products, next year you will be crying for missing out the great opportunity."
[18:07] <IT_Sean> My TV does. 32" LCD. Less than $400.
[18:07] <CrazyGadget> nothing changed
[18:08] <johnc-> mine doesn't, bought it just recently too
[18:08] <IT_Sean> You got a crap TV then. :p
[18:08] <johnc-> or it's not working through my amp
[18:08] <IT_Sean> There you go!
[18:08] <IT_Sean> That could be.
[18:08] <pksato> CrazyGadget: but in hdmi?
[18:08] <IT_Sean> It needs to be supported by both the TV and the other device.
[18:08] <CrazyGadget> yup
[18:08] <johnc-> the amp supports CEC
[18:08] <ShiftPlusOne> CrazyGadget, have a skim through http://elinux.org/RPiconfig I had to set the right hdmi_mode and disable overscan.
[18:08] <CrazyGadget> does it have to do with i'm isung an hdmi to dvi-d converter
[18:09] <Davespice> CrazyGadget: yes I think it does
[18:09] <CrazyGadget> hmmmm
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[18:09] <Davespice> so hdmi_drive=1 gives you nothing?
[18:09] <pksato> converter? or simple cable with hdmi on one end and dvi on other?
[18:10] <[Saint]> the banned list on http://www.coconut-audio.com/index.html is also hilarious.
[18:10] <[Saint]> "If you know anything about actual sound quality - you're banned!"
[18:10] <CrazyGadget> short cable, hdmi one side, dvi-d on the other, dvi-d cable from that to monitor
[18:10] <pksato> CrazyGadget: run this command /opt/vc/bin/tvservice -m DMT
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[18:11] <ShiftPlusOne> [Saint], wow >_<
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[18:11] <johnc-> IT_Sean: it's actually a pretty new and pricey TV, I was surprised I couldn't see it on cec-client
[18:11] <pksato> it give a list of supported resolutions
[18:12] <CrazyGadget> it gave one, 640x480 at 60Hz 4:3
[18:12] <pksato> reoved all hdmi_safe=1 on config.txt ?
[18:13] <pksato> or set it to 0
[18:13] <CrazyGadget> yes and changed hdmi_group to 2
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[18:14] <pksato> you need to play around hdmi_ options.
[18:14] <CrazyGadget> how...
[18:14] <pksato> http://www.elinux.org/RPiconfig#Video
[18:15] <ShiftPlusOne> [Saint], I am starting to suspect that it's a spoof site.
[18:15] <pksato> force mode to 1024x768 with hdmi_mode=16
[18:16] <[Saint]> ShiftPlusOne: unfortunately, he's 100% serious.
[18:16] <pksato> or, native of you monitor. (mode list on link)
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[18:16] <ShiftPlusOne> [Saint], and the part he says he uses Alien crystals?
[18:16] <[Saint]> He invents weird names for things.
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[18:17] <ShiftPlusOne> jeebus
[18:17] <[Saint]> Telling people its silica and glue makes it a lot harder to sell things for several thousand dollars. :)
[18:18] <[Saint]> If he is a troll, he's been keeping it up, across multiple audio forums, for a good 10 years solid without breaking character once.
[18:18] <ShiftPlusOne> heh, idn... I have my doubts he's not trolling.
[18:18] <ShiftPlusOne> wow, ok
[18:18] <CrazyGadget> ok, changed mode to 16, rebooting
[18:19] <CrazyGadget> no change
[18:20] <[Saint]> I'm starting to suspect the cable is doing something crazy.
[18:20] <CrazyGadget> i'm so frustrated
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[18:22] <pksato> tvservice can be used to change resolution, but I donk know the syntax.
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[18:36] <ShiftPlusOne> [Saint], damn you. One thing led to another and now I am on the crazy part of the internet reading about anti-gravity, zero-point energy and 'the Hutchison' effect... and of course how Obama is covering everything up.
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[18:37] <[Saint]> Hahahahaa
[18:38] <[Saint]> have a look at superconductive quantum trapping. :)
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[18:39] <ShiftPlusOne> [Saint], I only get quantum levitation coming up (which is legit and cool)
[18:39] <[Saint]> yeah, same thing.
[18:40] <johnc-> quantum levitation is really quantum locking
[18:40] * [Saint] nods
[18:40] <johnc-> and it's amazingly cool
[18:40] <ShiftPlusOne> yup =)
[18:41] <johnc-> quantum effects on a macro scale
[18:41] <ShiftPlusOne> I don't know the physics behind it, but I love the demos >.>
[18:43] <johnc-> super conductors allow for quantum effects that don't really make much sense to us (because we're never exposed to them) to be amplified to our size so we can use and observe them
[18:44] <johnc-> stuff that usually happens at the sub-atomic level
[18:45] <ShiftPlusOne> I've studied quantum physics as an elective at uni, so I am familiar with the basics, but it was an introductory thing that only scratched the surface.
[18:45] <johnc-> I find it fascinating
[18:46] <ShiftPlusOne> Any recommended reading?
[18:47] <johnc-> I haven't read anything for years, I've kinda skimmed surface knowledge from educational TV shows and science links/discussions that appear on reddit
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[18:49] <ShiftPlusOne> I see 'A Unified Grand Tour of Theoretical Physics' recommended a lot, but it seems to be strictly maths based (and I understand that quantum physics is pretty much pure maths)... but it didn't hold my attention... maybe I should give it another go.
[18:49] <johnc-> I wonder if Brian Cox publishes books, he's super smart and good at this stuff (he works at the LHC)
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[18:50] <ShiftPlusOne> According to wikipedia, he has 4
[18:51] <johnc-> I haven't read any of them, but he's quite popular on the telly and is good at boiling his area of expertise down into understandable chunks
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[18:52] <ShiftPlusOne> Idn, the popular science folks tend to make an analogy out of everything rather than explain the maths or practical applications.
[18:52] <johnc-> but it's unlikely his books would give you in-depth knowledge of quantum physics
[18:53] <johnc-> sure
[18:53] <johnc-> I've seen him explaining to Stephen Fry and Alan Davies on QI about temporal mechanics
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[19:12] <ShiftPlusOne> Pretty cool rulers if anyone is interested. http://www.pozible.com/project/31806/153612
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[19:16] <[Saint]> Don't settle for an average 6 incher, this one gives you an extra inch!
[19:16] <[Saint]> ....must. resist.
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[19:18] <johnc-> doesn't seem like you could get much done with just 6 inches
[19:18] <johnc-> of ruler
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[19:21] <BurtyB> heh Dave makes me laugh :)
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[19:23] <ShiftPlusOne> Aye, and since he sent me a multimeter worth more than my oscilloscope, I can't promote his stuff enough, heh.
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[19:35] * [7] wonders who or what funds EEVblog
[19:36] <ShiftPlusOne> He monetizes his videos, doesn't he? Plus he sells little gizmos on the side, but I don't see that being too lucrative. =/
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[19:46] <Davespice> I've just found an easter egg on YouTube
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[19:46] <[7]> that 1980 or whatever one?
[19:46] <Davespice> its got arcade missile command!
[19:47] <Davespice> [7]: yeah thats the one, pause a video and type 1980
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[20:37] <blonkel> heyho :|
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[20:38] <tacowho> high
[20:38] <blonkel> im trieing to get an aufs rootfs running on my pi, but im failing.. i followed following guide: http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?p=228099, everything is fine.. except if im adding initramfs to my kernel
[20:38] <blonkel> then i get kernel panics at boot
[20:38] <blonkel> any idears how to solve this? :P
[20:39] <blonkel> (im trieing to use kernel 3.6.y)
[20:40] <blonkel> oh heres my rs232 kernel log: http://pastebin.com/MgFdE7pn
[20:40] <tacowho> unfortunately im just a noob got my pi last week
[20:40] <johnc-> welcome to the pi life
[20:42] <tacowho> ty. i have installed raspbmc so far, looking forward to many other uses
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[20:43] <rihnapstor> hello.
[20:43] <rihnapstor> anyone here
[20:44] <blonkel> and i dont got any idears left how to solve this problem, due to the fact im not able to debug it, couse i dont get any output of the init script O_o
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[20:47] * [7] wonders why pyusb fails to access libusb...
[20:48] <[7]> blonkel: well, your /init script just returns from what it looks like
[20:48] <[7]> i.e. doesn't call switch_root properly
[20:49] <[7]> can you paste the script somewhere?
[20:49] <blonkel> sure
[20:49] <rihnapstor> is it necessary to have us keyboard for interacting with pi?can't I use laptop keys and for display laptops hdmi port ?any suggestions?tools?
[20:50] <blonkel> http://pastebin.com/gULmJ7wb
[20:50] <rihnapstor> i mean *usb
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[20:50] <blonkel> but if its returning, why i dont get any echos?
[20:51] <[7]> because you probably don't have a console attached to stdout/stderr, or the wrong one
[20:51] <[7]> what does "/bin/busybox --install -s" do? is that supposed to set up the busybox symlinks?
[20:51] <IT_Sean> rihnapstor: You will need a keyboard and TV. You will not be able to use your laptop's display and keyboard, unless you SSH / RDP into the raspi
[20:51] <[7]> if so, I assume the /bin/sh symlink is already present in the initramfs?
[20:51] <blonkel> correctly
[20:52] <johnc-> I feel like my pi life pun didn't get enough appreciation
[20:52] <[7]> judging from the timestamps it looks like the /bin/sleep call fails already
[20:52] <tapout> do portable harddrives that require usb power work in a raspberry pi without having an external usb hub?
[20:52] <[7]> however something attempts to mount mmcblk0p2
[20:53] <[7]> tapout: they most likely don't
[20:53] <IT_Sean> tapout: Generally, you will need a powered hub for a harddrive, unless it has it's own power supply.
[20:53] <[7]> with shorted polyfuses and a strong power supply for the pi it *might* work, but otherwise it won't
[20:54] <tapout> do you guys think a raspberry pi is good for rsnapshot backups to an external drive?
[20:54] <tapout> i can get a powered drive from costco .. 3TB is like 128
[20:54] <rihnapstor> ok, IT_Sean,i will use pi as a server,and I want to only push code to the pi.so using source control the best option?beacuse I will code on i5.
[20:55] <[7]> blonkel: does the initramfs contain /dev nodes?
[20:55] <[7]> especially /dev/console, /dev/ttyAMA0 and /dev/mmcblk0p2?
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[20:56] <blonkel> http://pastebin.com/Uv2fz3nC
[20:57] <[7]> erm... what are those things? 0 byte files?
[20:57] <[7]> they don't look like proper device nodes
[20:57] <blonkel> hm well i created them with mknod
[20:57] <rihnapstor> ?
[20:57] <[7]> then your ls might be broken :P
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[20:58] <[7]> anyway, with your kernel command line, /dev/console will be on tty1, not ttyAMA0. is that intentional?
[20:58] <tapout> do you guys think the raspberry pi has enough cpu power to run rsnapshot/rsync ?
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[20:58] <[7]> tapout: it can surely run it, but no idea how fast it will be
[20:58] <blonkel> tty1 is rs232 if im right? or am i wrong? ;)
[20:59] <[7]> the 100mbit/s ethernet may or may not be the bottleneck
[20:59] <[7]> blonkel: no, that's HDMI or whatever. ttyAMA0 is rs232
[20:59] <[7]> just remove the console=tty1 argument
[21:00] <blonkel> thanks :P, ill be back here in about 10 minutes if i gave it a try and recreated the device nodes
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[21:00] <[7]> blonkel: I strongly doubt that this will be sufficient
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[21:00] <[7]> there is probably another dozen problems here :)
[21:01] <tapout> I've only got 25Mb internet here anyways, just wondered about hte hardlinks/softlinks and if it would be io bound for hours on end :) ... cheers, i will try it
[21:01] <[7]> blonkel: judging from the serial output I'm not sure if the kernel found the initramfs at all
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[21:02] <blonkel> but its included in kernel so why it shouldnt find the initramfs?
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[21:02] <[7]> does the kernel have initramfs support?
[21:02] <[7]> (the default one hasn't)
[21:03] <[7]> did you let the kernel build process include the initramfs files, or did you inject the cpio archive in some other way?
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[21:04] <[7]> there's a lot of things that can go wrong in that area...
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[21:08] <funkster> anyone suggest a place to hire someone more advanced then me in electronics to complete a rgb led project for raspberry pi (this is time sensitive, so me learning on my own is not feasible).
[21:08] <Encrypt> funkster, ##electronics ;)
[21:10] <funkster> Encrypt: well thats pretty obvious.. another reason i need to hire someone smarter then me, lol!
[21:10] <Encrypt> :p
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[21:29] <blonkel> [7] thanks that helped a bit, now i get "[ 2.368179] Failed to execute /init", so theres realy a problem with initrd
[21:29] <[7]> could be one of these things:
[21:29] <blonkel> but i activated the support in the kernel? (CONFIG_BLK_DEV_INITRD=y)
[21:29] <[7]> - +x bit not set on /init
[21:29] <[7]> - /bin/sh not being present or no +x bit
[21:30] <[7]> - /lib/ld-linux-armhf.so.3 not present
[21:30] <[7]> - if busybox isn't linked statically: some other library not present
[21:31] <blonkel> well everything seems well of your points
[21:31] <blonkel> ldd busybox says: not a dynamic executable
[21:31] <[7]> ldd doesn't work cross platform
[21:31] <blonkel> good to know
[21:31] <blonkel> file says dynamicly linked
[21:31] <blonkel> k
[21:32] <[7]> in that case just open it up in a hex editor, scroll a little bit down, and check which library names turn up in there
[21:32] <[7]> typically libc.so.6 and possibly some others
[21:33] <[7]> (or just use a static busybox)
[21:35] <[7]> the one with md5sum aa07fe904cdc4c1ed08a69b197e0720f needs this:
[21:35] <[7]> libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0xb6e8c000)
[21:35] <[7]> /lib/ld-linux-armhf.so.3 (0xb6fbf000)
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[21:48] <blonkel> i downloaded one out of debian repository, but its still failing
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[21:52] <sney> debian armhf is not compatible with the raspberry pi
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[21:54] <blonkel> but im using debian armhf ?
[21:54] <sney> are you using debian armhf or raspbian?
[21:55] <sney> or debian armel, for that matter
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[21:55] <blonkel> "2013-07-26-wheezy-raspbian.zip"
[21:56] <rihnapstor> hello.i will use pi as a server,and I want to only push code to the pi.so using source control the best option?beacuse I will code on i5.
[21:56] <sney> blonkel: ok, that's raspbian. it's debian armhf, recompiled to support the raspberry pi CPU.
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[21:56] <sney> this is an important distinction. upstream debian armhf binaries don't work on the pi processor.
[21:57] <sney> so if you got a package from a debian repository it might install but it wouldn't actually work. the repository you want is mirrordirector.raspbian.org.
[21:57] <chithead> debian armhf has armv7 binaries, while the rpi is only armv6
[21:58] <sney> correct.
[21:58] <chithead> same for other binary distros, they had to make special variants/remixes for armv6+hardfp
[21:59] <blonkel> ok :P, but well why is /init then failing?
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[21:59] <chithead> "failed to execute /init" is not a failure?
[22:00] <chithead> the binaries are armv7
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[22:01] <blonkel> ehm i thought armv6 versions are ok?
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[22:02] <sney> armv6 versions of what, from where
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[22:03] <blonkel> out of raspbian repo (busybox-static)
[22:03] <blonkel> and i also thried http://busybox.net/downloads/binaries/1.16.1/ armv6
[22:03] <chithead> what did you try with those packages?
[22:04] <blonkel> to include them in initramfs (/bin/busybox)
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[22:19] <blonkel> [7] got another minute for me? :P, im still stuck in /init failing :/
[22:19] <[7]> sure
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[22:23] <blonkel> hmm well busybox seems to be called at start i got output of it on hdmi port but its saying "/bin/sh cant access tty;
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[22:24] <blonkel> theres no kernel panic, drivers seem to load normaly
[22:25] <blonkel> tty devnode looks o.k.
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[22:31] <[7]> just curious: what did you change so that it didn't panic anymore?
[22:32] <[7]> and "can't access tty, no job control in this shell" and similar messages aren't really important during bootup
[22:34] <blonkel> added a static version of busybox
[22:36] <blonkel> thats all i did.. and i already trief diffrent versions of static busybox binarys
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[22:40] <blonkel> im executing directly after busybox install echo, but i dont get any >_<
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[23:10] <blonkel> bah im going crazy ! :[[
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[23:11] <[7]> blonkel: try echo "something" > /dev/consokle
[23:11] <[7]> /dev/console*
[23:12] <[7]> or, if that doesn't work, > /dev/ttyAMA0
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[23:15] <blonkel> no output
[23:15] <blonkel> with both versions
[23:16] <[7]> hm, in that case either these device nodes are trashed or the code isn't even run
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[23:28] <blonkel> hmm cross compiled busybox.. doesnt help :/
[23:29] <blonkel> nodes seem to be ok :/
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[23:47] <blonkel> ok this is nonesense >_<
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[23:47] <blonkel> does anyone have an running initramfs for raspberry? :P
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[23:49] <plugwash> If you use one of the debian style kernel packages supplied by raspbian (rather than using the kernel supplied by the foundation in their bootloader package) then debians standard initrd generation mechanisms seem to work
[23:50] <[7]> blonkel: I have one, but I'm not sure what your requirements are
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[23:51] <blonkel> just a running one, so i can study whats going wrong with mine :/
[23:51] <[7]> what do you need aufs for? to cut down space requirements by compressing your rootfs?
[23:51] <blonkel> i would like to use aufs for a readonly rootfs, in case of powerlos
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[23:52] <blonkel> (server usage)
[23:53] <[7]> blonkel: https://mega.co.nz/#!sZJFGbhQ!XIRdt179aGmVHlv-glVR1gcXSmIt6uqp8HzJ9rzPvDE (yes, technically it isn't an initrd but an initramfs)
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[23:53] <[7]> that's what I used to squeeze the whole system into a 16MB SD card :)
[23:54] <blonkel> wonderful thank you
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