#raspberrypi IRC Log


IRC Log for 2013-08-18

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[0:02] <cads> Hey guys
[0:02] <cads> I've got a quick question
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[0:03] <cads> I'd like to control a relay from one of the GPIO pins (we're going to make a internet enabled coffee pot)
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[0:03] <cads> and I'm wondering about the best way to control power the relay's coil.
[0:03] <ShorTie> need an opto isolator
[0:03] <cads> The relay has an opto-isolator for its input
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[0:04] <cads> but I might additionally want to separate the relay's power source from the pi?
[0:05] <cads> ie, if the coil shorts against the relay's live terminal, and the pi and the relay share the same power source, things could be ugly
[0:07] <pksato> cads: use a npn transitor to drive relay coil.
[0:07] <ShorTie> so use a seperate power supply for the relay coil, be best most likely any ways
[0:07] <pksato> a standard way to drive relay from logic circuit.
[0:08] <cads> This is the relay unit we're working with http://www.ebay.com/itm/SainSmart-5V-2-Channel-Relay-For-Arduino-Due-Mega2560-UNO-R3-Raspberry-Pi-/271258867377?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f2849d6b1
[0:09] <cads> it's opto-isolated and I think there's a transistor on there controlling the coil
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[0:09] <pksato> oh... module for arduino.
[0:09] <cads> I wonder if we even need a separate psu for the coil, lemme check
[0:10] <pksato> these modules have issues to drivem from rpi.
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[0:12] <ShorTie> you most likely can control the opto-isolator with the rPi, but the relay coil needs a different power supply
[0:12] <pksato> use separated psu for jd-vcc, and vcc goes to 3v3 gpio pins.
[0:13] <pksato> jd-vcc can be a from same psu that power rpi, but not from gpio header.
[0:14] <pksato> and, may be, need to reduce limiting resistor of opto and led.
[0:14] <pksato> and, relay is activaded on low state.
[0:15] <cads> will gpio have a hard time delivering 15-20ma?
[0:15] <pksato> yes.
[0:15] <ShorTie> not really
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[0:32] <ShorTie> peep's light up led's all the time with a gpio pin
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[0:34] <mgottschlag> the pi's gpio pins are specified for 16mA though
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[0:47] <cads> hrm
[0:48] <cads> it looks like the GPIO pushes 3.3v, but the relay board expects 5v
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[0:54] <rikkib> I have two different relay boards... One with opto and the other low side pnp drivers. Both require 2n2222 drivers on an extra circuit board.
[0:55] <rikkib> Both relay boards are dangerous to the rpi without a buffer
[0:55] <rikkib> Although I did not kill the rpi that I hooked the pnp driven board to.
[0:56] <rikkib> but it was shoving close to 5v on the gpio
[0:57] <rikkib> http://www.zlham.geek.nz/images/news/rpi-sw-but.jpg < Bad for RPi
[0:57] <ShorTie> all the rPi gpio pin has to do is light up a led, ya the rest of the relay board needs 5v
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[0:58] <rikkib> http://www.zlham.geek.nz/images/news/rpi-outdoor.jpg < Better
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[0:59] <amoeba> anyone know anything about ADCs? I'm a complete newb, and I am not even sure I have this wired up correctly :)
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[0:59] <rikkib> Circuit???
[1:00] <rikkib> Chip?
[1:01] <amoeba> It's a MCP3008, attempting to communicate with it over SPI
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[1:02] <amoeba> I don't have any sensors hooked up, but the values are changing in a "wave-like" pattern
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[1:02] <rikkib> Sounds like it is working
[1:03] <amoeba> is that normal?
[1:03] <rikkib> You need to put some filtering and signal conditioning on the adc input
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[1:03] <rikkib> But it is 60/50 cycles
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[1:04] <amoeba> 60/50 cycles? (I am literally a baby with this stuff)
[1:04] <rikkib> Yes this in normal
[1:04] <aquarat> My Raspberry Pi is running Raspbian and in the bash terminal says "bus error" every time I try and execute a command... is there any way I can reset it remotely ?
[1:04] <amoeba> I don't know what 60/50 means :)
[1:04] <aquarat> please help :(
[1:04] <aquarat> ...and hi
[1:04] <rikkib> The adc is picking up the 60/50 cycle power
[1:05] <rikkib> The ac that runs around your house
[1:05] <amoeba> oohhh
[1:05] <rikkib> It is all around you all the time unless you are in the wilderness
[1:05] <amoeba> so it's just noise?
[1:05] <rikkib> Plus other rf
[1:06] <rikkib> Yes
[1:06] <rikkib> So you need to filter ac
[1:07] <rikkib> .001uf & .01uf capacitors to ground will kill rf
[1:07] <amoeba> the strange thing is, the wave goes from channel 8 to channel 1 (get's larger then smaller)
[1:07] <rikkib> Other choke methods kill the low frequency hum
[1:07] <amoeba> interesting
[1:08] <amoeba> this is wild stuff
[1:08] <rikkib> Just like at powerline filters in electronic gear
[1:09] <rikkib> Read up on pi networks as they apply to electronics
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[1:10] <amoeba> ok, I should probably just start taking night classes for EE
[1:10] <amoeba> it's just for fun
[1:10] <amoeba> but I am so lost :)
[1:11] <amoeba> also, is it possible for me to connect a thermocouple to one of the channels?
[1:11] <rikkib> Pretty big learing curve
[1:11] <rikkib> I started when I was 13
[1:11] <amoeba> I'm 29 (I started writing software when I was 12 though)
[1:12] <amoeba> so, i'm in for it :)
[1:12] <rikkib> 40 year later there is still heaps I do not have a clue about
[1:12] <amoeba> :)
[1:12] <rikkib> Depends how you look at it.
[1:13] <rikkib> It turned my interest into a lifetime passion for all thinks technology
[1:13] <rikkib> things
[1:13] <amoeba> passion matters
[1:13] <amoeba> I love this stuff as well
[1:14] <rikkib> I have three hobbies...
[1:14] <rikkib> Music... I have Fender electric, bass, keyboard and drum set.
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[1:15] <rikkib> I am a Ham radio operator from age 21
[1:16] <rikkib> Electronics and SWL radio from 13
[1:16] <amoeba> You like frequencies :)
[1:16] <amoeba> very cool
[1:16] <rikkib> zlham.geek.nz
[1:17] <rikkib> zl1upb.zlham.geek.nz
[1:17] <aquarat> rikkib, you're aware of the mod to output/generate HF frequencies on the pi's gpio4?
[1:17] <aquarat> probably old news here
[1:18] <rikkib> Think I read about it
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[1:18] <aquarat> I thought it was pretty cool
[1:19] <rikkib> RPI is like any other mcu... RF dirty at close range
[1:19] <rikkib> I put them in ali boxes
[1:19] <aquarat> seems reasonable
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[1:20] <rikkib> http://www.zlham.geek.nz/images/news/rpi-dev.jpg
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[1:21] <rikkib> Saves heart ache in a harsh environment
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[1:25] <amoeba> @rikkib that's some serious stuff! I don't understand any of it :)
[1:26] <amoeba> thanks for you help btw
[1:26] <rikkib> It is all pretty logical... Once you know
[1:26] <aquarat> lol @ pic
[1:27] <aquarat> I'm not sure I'd be using a pi if I needed to do that
[1:27] <aquarat> /use in such harsh environments
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[1:28] <amoeba> whoa
[1:29] <amoeba> I have another question
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[1:30] <rikkib> Go
[1:30] <amoeba> I have a thermocouple wired up to this thing, and it wasn't forming a circuit, then I hooked one end up to a channel on the ADC and the other to input voltage.
[1:30] <amoeba> and all channel values sort of stablized (with some change)
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[1:31] <amoeba> is that normal?
[1:31] <amoeba> haha
[1:31] <rikkib> Sounds very normal
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[1:32] <rikkib> Input voltage to the transducer should be a around the max input voltage of your adc
[1:33] <rikkib> Be it 3.3v or 5v
[1:33] <pksato> thermocouple? direct to adc in?
[1:33] <amoeba> yeah (I have not clue what I am doing @pksato , just learning)
[1:33] <amoeba> why does it mess with all channels?
[1:34] <pksato> is floating (nothing conected)?
[1:34] <rikkib> If there is any chance of access voltage on the adc you should protect with zeners
[1:35] <amoeba> I'm not sure I understand your question @pksato
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[1:35] <pksato> MCP3008?
[1:35] <rikkib> As soon as you put a load on an adc input it kills a certain amount of the noise
[1:35] <amoeba> yeah
[1:35] <amoeba> Oh ok
[1:35] <rikkib> The other chans will show just moise
[1:36] <cads> hey guys, I'm working on an easy to use raspberry pi virtual machine deploy tool
[1:36] <cads> https://github.com/maxsu/Coffeebot#the-vm
[1:37] <cads> right now I've only tested it in linux, could use someone willing to test it in mac
[1:37] <cads> or give me ideas on how it might run in windows
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[1:39] <cads> still got some bugs to work out - the idea is to make a virtual raspberry Pi for testing the server part of an internet enabled coffee pot
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[1:40] <amoeba> iot coming at ya :)
[1:40] <pksato> amoeba: thermocouple generate few milivolts, probable, out of sensibilty of ADC.
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[1:41] <amoeba> what is the correct way to connect a thermo couple to an adc?
[1:42] <rikkib> Distance is a factor
[1:42] <pksato> to use thermocouple need a zero point reference, and a amplification.
[1:42] <rikkib> Longer + more need for filtering the input signal
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[1:42] <pksato> if is this kind of thermocopler http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermocouple
[1:43] <plugwash> thermocouples are awkward to work with for two reasons, firstly the output signal is very small, secondly they only measure relative temperature so to get the actual temperature of what you are probing you have to have a second temperature sensor to measure the temperature of the "cold junction"
[1:43] <amoeba> oops, it's a thermistor (that's how much I know)
[1:44] <amoeba> plugwash: sounds complicated
[1:45] <plugwash> right, which is why you normally only use thermocouples where the advantages outweigh the cost/complexity of dealing with them
[1:45] <pksato> to use a thermistor, need to build a voltage divider.
[1:46] <amoeba> oh man, so much lingo :)
[1:46] <rikkib> ntc or ptc thermistor?
[1:46] <amoeba> so I am on the wiki, is a thermistor a voltage divider? rikkib: how do I tell?
[1:46] <pksato> I suggest to 'buy ' some book about basic eletronics.
[1:47] <amoeba> pksato: I agree
[1:47] <rikkib> negative temp coefficient
[1:47] <amoeba> I just know enough about software to get myself into this mess
[1:47] <rikkib> It is all on the net
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[1:48] <rikkib> lol
[1:48] <rikkib> adc has several modes
[1:49] <rikkib> for things like thermistors
[1:49] <amoeba> haha
[1:49] <rikkib> based on the two types of thremistors
[1:49] <rikkib> ntc & ptc
[1:50] <rikkib> negative and postive temp coefficient
[1:50] <pksato> amoeba: you have a multimeter?
[1:50] <rikkib> ntc hotter mean less resistance
[1:50] <amoeba> I do (I even have a cheap logic analyzer if that matters)
[1:51] <amoeba> I see rikkib
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[1:51] <rikkib> ptc hotter means more resistancew
[1:51] <amoeba> so accuracy is dependent on environment
[1:52] <rikkib> qf or quality factor in thermistors
[1:52] <amoeba> can I damage anything if I put the 3.3v line into an input?
[1:52] <amoeba> on the ADC
[1:53] <rikkib> Not likely
[1:53] <rikkib> but it as always a good idea to use some resistance
[1:53] <pksato> or, use DHT11 like sensors.
[1:53] <rikkib> 100 ohms
[1:53] <rikkib> maybe less
[1:54] <rikkib> You can use a diode as a temp sensor
[1:55] <rikkib> Many amplifiers do
[1:55] <pksato> or DS18B20
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[1:56] <pksato> thermocoupler, thermistor, diode are 'raw' sensors, need extra circuit and "tedious" calibtation process.
[1:56] <amoeba> so just to make sure what I am seeing is normal: https://vine.co/v/hOqY0zJ3BKV
[1:59] <rikkib> hmm that looks interesting
[1:59] <amoeba> the console output?
[2:00] <rikkib> Yes
[2:00] <amoeba> it goes in some sort of wave pattern
[2:00] <amoeba> it's probably my code
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[2:00] <rikkib> I would sample one channel at a time
[2:01] <rikkib> and sampling times
[2:02] <amoeba> ok
[2:02] <rikkib> fast sample times can lead to noise when switching
[2:02] <amoeba> is that what "settling" means?
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[2:02] <rikkib> one main adc being switch to the 8 inputs
[2:02] <rikkib> settling time yes
[2:03] <rikkib> gives the internal stuff time ti ditch the vlotage on the adc
[2:04] <rikkib> after the pin has been switched to another input
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[2:04] <amoeba> ok, that seems reasonable... going to try sleeping between for a bit and see what the outcome is
[2:05] <rikkib> the capacitance on the external pin also effects settling time
[2:05] <amoeba> external pin?
[2:05] <rikkib> of the adc
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[2:06] <rikkib> if you put a 10uf electrolytic cap on an adc pin it will be very slow to respond to changes in voltage
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[2:07] <rikkib> but at the same time you will have less noise
[2:07] <rikkib> often these things are a trade off
[2:08] <amoeba> so a cap acts as a buffer in that sense
[2:08] <amoeba> ?
[2:08] <rikkib> Storage of electrons
[2:08] <ShorTie> voltage buffer, ya
[2:09] <amoeba> I just realized I don't know what voltage is :)
[2:09] <amoeba> rather, I don't understand it
[2:09] <rikkib> It is the stuff that makes your hair stand on end
[2:10] <Phosie> ^
[2:10] <rikkib> Current is the one that kills you
[2:10] <amoeba> and together, with time, it costs you money :)
[2:10] <rikkib> rf current burns to the bone
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[2:10] <Phosie> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voltage
[2:11] <amoeba> :)
[2:11] <SpeedEvil> RF current tends to exhibit the skin effect - and go over the skin
[2:12] <rikkib> Have you held onto rf at 144mhz?
[2:12] <rikkib> 100w will do it
[2:12] <rikkib> pep
[2:12] <ShorTie> i used a 1uf on a single input of a adc, worked great, added the caps 5 more inputs, and it is now real slow
[2:12] <ShorTie> guess i learned about total capacitance, lol.
[2:14] <rikkib> classic example
[2:14] <rikkib> cumulative effect of adc switching
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[2:15] <rikkib> Got to tend to vehicle things... Oil change this after noon...
[2:16] <amoeba> rikkib: thanks for your patience and help
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[2:24] <amoeba> I am done for the day. Also thanks to Phosie, ShorTie, plugwash, and pksato.
[2:24] <Phosie> You're welcome.
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[2:34] <jhn> hey guys, first time user here. I'm running the latest raspbian wheezy and for some reason, whenever I try to ssh into it, it prompts for the pwd but the connection closes immediately.
[2:34] <hydroxygen> http://gsuryalss.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/volt-amp-ohm.jpg
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[2:39] <ShorTie> lol, nice hydroxygen
[2:40] <Phosie> old but gold
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[2:43] <hydroxygen> ohm's law.. heheh
[2:44] <rikkib> ssh -l pi your-rpi-ip
[2:44] <rikkib> raspberry is the password unless you have changed it
[2:45] <rikkib> In windows make sure your user name is set to pi
[2:48] <Phosie> What is -l? Don't think I've ever used that one.
[2:50] <plugwash> it specifies the username
[2:50] <plugwash> you can also specify the username by using the user@host form (which is how I tend to do it)
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[2:51] <Phosie> Ah, yeah that's how I do it.
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[2:52] <jhn> I'm just writing the image again to see if it works.
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[2:57] <Phosie> I wish the tip of the day contained more tips about the pi
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[3:24] <rikkib> Mmmm Scones with raspberry jam and whipped cream for Sunday lunch...
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[3:25] <alperkanat> hey there.. i just installed a fresh archlinux for raspberry pi.. i try to expand the partition but then it fails to boot..
[3:25] <Phosie> Only 2.25am here
[3:25] <Phosie> how did you expand it?
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[3:26] <alperkanat> by following almost the same way with this: http://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/499/how-can-i-resize-my-root-partition
[3:28] <Phosie> Hmm i've never done it that way so cant really help. I used gparted without any issues though
[3:29] <alperkanat> has anything changed in the last 6 months? because i haven't tried it for a while so maybe i'm using old how-to's..
[3:30] <Phosie> I'm new to arch so I'm not sure, I don't think it will have changed too much.
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[3:56] <CrazyGadget> Hey, I recently downloaded emulationstation on my pi, and I don't know where to get the roms for it... Does anyone know where?
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[3:59] <rikkib> The only roms I know of are for mame
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[3:59] <CrazyGadget> I'm ok with that, anything is good
[3:59] <sney> that's pretty far outside the scope of a channel like this, I think
[3:59] <rikkib> mame runs on rpi
[4:00] <CrazyGadget> i know
[4:00] <CrazyGadget> emulationstation comes with mame installed
[4:00] <CrazyGadget> would you know where to get roms for it?
[4:01] <rikkib> I think the are a couple of web sites that have them
[4:01] <sney> I would start with google, and I would be pretty careful about how much I tell people I'm trying to download games that I may or may not actually own
[4:01] <rikkib> I have two collections
[4:01] <rikkib> One for the RPi and one for old win98 mame
[4:02] <CrazyGadget> I've tried all on the first page of google, nothing helps
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[4:06] <CrazyGadget> hello?
[4:07] <Phosie> We can't really tell you.
[4:07] <CrazyGadget> ok...
[4:07] <sney> CrazyGadget: software piracy is against freenode policy. and the #raspberrypi operators are pretty serious about their rules.
[4:08] * sney shrug
[4:08] <sney> you're on your own
[4:08] <CrazyGadget> oh, very sorry then
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[7:49] * [Saint] points out to various people that there are several sources of perfectly legal ROMs for many systems that no one thought to mention
[7:49] <[Saint]> Downloading ROMs != piracy
[7:50] <[Saint]> It can, sure. Is it a given? No.
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[8:00] <Syliss> which roms?
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[8:08] <rikkib> mame
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[8:39] <SirLagz> http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=48425 <-- can someone please tell me...is that guy who posted that thread just not putting any effort at all into it ?
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[10:51] <xrosnight> hello
[10:51] <xrosnight> anyone knows how to stream video on Pi ?????
[10:51] <xrosnight> thanks :)
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[10:55] <rikkib> motion is on package
[10:55] <rikkib> one
[10:56] <rikkib> apt-get install motion
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[11:05] <xrosnight> rikkib: besides motion anyone knows gstreamer ????
[11:05] <xrosnight> hello ???
[11:05] <xrosnight> gstreamer on raspberryPi?
[11:06] <rikkib> mpgstreamer
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[11:07] <xrosnight> rikkib: what's that? same as gstreamer?
[11:07] <rikkib> do not know
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[11:24] <linuxstb> xrosnight: What do you want to stream?
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[11:50] <PipeDale> morning #raspberrypi
[11:50] <xrosnight> linuxstb: i want to stream video with gstreamer , could you help me , many thanks !!!
[11:54] <linuxstb> You said that, but what do you mean by "video" ? Input from a webcam? Input from the camera module?
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[12:00] <PipeDale> O_o
[12:00] <PipeDale> plugwash: you seen Sky are keeping Bethere/o2 seperate?
[12:01] <plugwash> No, I haven't seen that
[12:01] <PipeDale> Kinda annoyed me now :(
[12:02] <PipeDale> but they won't be offering FTTC on be/o2
[12:02] <PipeDale> they'd need to go on the sky network for that
[12:03] <plugwash> If I was them I would gradually merge the networks in a way that didn't require breaking changes for existing users from either network
[12:04] <PipeDale> Sky are gonna migrate o2/be to sky network
[12:04] <PipeDale> but offer a premium service
[12:04] <PipeDale> Static IP/Custom Line profiles
[12:05] <PipeDale> but i think that's only on ADSL lines
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[12:06] <linuxstb> PipeDale: So basically, no changes in the long-term?
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[12:09] <letstest> hi . i was trying to modify /etc/asaound.conf, well i created the file. now i cant boot into terminal because of it. i get this error - "/etc/asound.conf may be old or corrupted consider to remove or fix it"
[12:09] <letstest> how do i delete it?
[12:13] <x29a> mount the sdcard on a different computer
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[12:15] <letstest> oh :-)
[12:15] <letstest> thanks x29a
[12:15] <x29a> np :)
[12:15] <PipeDale> linuxstb: pretty much so
[12:18] <linuxstb> PipeDale: Well, it had to be that way I suspect if they wanted to avoid a mass exodus.
[12:21] <xrosnight> linuxstb: yeah from the usb camera to stream it
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[12:30] <letstest> hi - just wanted to share - i got my usb sound card finally working - http://www.linuxcircle.com/2013/05/08/raspberry-pi-microphone-setup-with-usb-sound-card/ - this article helped. just wanted to share with people who helped.
[12:31] <letstest> along with all the other suggestions
[12:32] <letstest> anyways, new question - now that i have audio in. what is my best bet on using it as a baby monitor. any recommendations?
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[12:38] <PipeDale> linuxstb: still not sure it'll be as good.
[12:38] <PipeDale> Sky Network with o2/be features
[12:39] <PipeDale> and the support will still be bulgarian.
[12:42] <linuxstb> Well, (touch wood), I've never needed support - it just works...
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[12:54] <PipeDale> linuxstb: i was with be* for years (since they first started)
[12:56] <linuxstb> Yes, I can't remember how long I've been with them.
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[12:57] <Silox|> Hello there! Is it possible to mount and emulate your raspbian image directly from the SD-card on your laptop?
[12:58] <ShiftPlusOne> Is your laptop running linux?
[12:58] <Silox|> Yes it is
[12:59] <ShiftPlusOne> sure, just use the right -hda parameter ( /dev/sdX2)
[12:59] <ShiftPlusOne> make sure you modify the ld.so.preload file.
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[13:03] <ShiftPlusOne> oh, and use a kernel compiled for qemu
[13:06] <letstest> Silox - i am running ubuntu. I just did that. the sd card showed up on /media
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[13:06] <Silox|> Yeah, I guess it worked
[13:06] <letstest> cool
[13:07] <Silox|> Altough I get some errors, fixing them now
[13:07] <ShiftPlusOne> oh... and I assumed you know how to use qemu to emulate the image http://xecdesign.com/qemu-emulating-raspberry-pi-the-easy-way/
[13:07] <letstest> that's cool
[13:07] <ShiftPlusOne> though the smarter way to do it would be to chroot into it and use qemu's usermode emulation
[13:08] <letstest> @ShiftPlusOne - do you have any recommendations for a baby monitor set up?
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[13:08] <ShiftPlusOne> letstest, I am not really sure what's required of a baby monitor, heh. Just stream the audio to another computer or what?
[13:09] <letstest> pretty much
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[13:09] <letstest> it is obviously overpriced commercially :)
[13:09] <ShiftPlusOne> well, in that case... just stream the audio to another computer =P
[13:09] <letstest> http://mattkaar.com/blog/2012/12/01/raspberry-pi-as-a-baby-monitor/
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[13:10] <letstest> cool
[13:10] <ShiftPlusOne> So what's wrong with that approach?
[13:10] <letstest> that is what this guy is doing
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[13:10] <letstest> nothing. just found that and will do that
[13:10] <ShiftPlusOne> ah
[13:12] <ShiftPlusOne> If that doesn't work (it should), just google linux audio streaming... there are too many approaches to do that =/
[13:12] <letstest> cool! thanks
[13:12] <Aranel> My RasPi server doesn't boot, and while FAT fs looks okay, I cannot run fsck on ext partition, It fails with "unable to set superblock flags on /dev/sdd2". I'm running Raspbian on a 512M model. What to do?
[13:13] <x29a> what did you do?
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[13:18] <ShiftPlusOne> Aranel, sounds like it's time to re-image.
[13:19] <ShiftPlusOne> If the card itself isn't messed up.
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[13:21] <Aranel> ShiftPlusOne: It shows up on gparted and dumpe2fs still works. Can't I repair this fs and keep using it?
[13:22] <[Saint]> Aranel: its time vs. effort, really.
[13:22] <ShiftPlusOne> I usually find recovering corrupted sd cards is more trouble than it's wroth
[13:22] <ShiftPlusOne> *worth... or what he said.
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[13:22] <[Saint]> It depends how much time you project debugging and fixing it will take versus capturing your data and reimaging.
[13:22] <Aranel> well, there's a ton of things I'd like to recover (pics
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[13:23] <Aranel> and my GIT repo and other stuff)
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[13:23] <[Saint]> I got into the habit of using USB or network storage for the pi pretty quickly
[13:23] <[Saint]> I like my data too much.
[13:23] <Aranel> so, how can I capture the data?
[13:23] <ShiftPlusOne> Lesson learned, ey. Hope you can get it back.
[13:24] <[Saint]> Aranel: Mount elsewhere, see what you can pull off intact.
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[13:25] <Aranel> [Saint]: I'm trying on my desktop Linux already. While gparted reports okay
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[13:26] <Aranel> It refuses to mount because of bad fs. fsck also refuses to repair and complains about superblock flags.
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[13:29] <ShiftPlusOne> So I am guessing you took a backup and ran it through something like testdisk already?
[13:30] <Aranel> ShiftPlusOne: uh, no I don't know about testdisk. I'm running dd to create a .bin image now.
[13:30] <ShiftPlusOne> alright, give it a go
[13:30] <Aranel> ShiftPlusOne: how about dd'ing that image back to an external hdd and repair it there. Would it make a difference?
[13:31] <letstest> is there something special about killing a process of rpi ? I am trying to kill an arecord process using sudo kill but it isnt going away
[13:31] <ShiftPlusOne> letstest, tried sudo pkill arecord ?
[13:32] <letstest> yes
[13:32] <ShiftPlusOne> letstest, well, there's nothing special about the pi there, so... no idea.
[13:32] <letstest> k
[13:32] <letstest> may have to reboot
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[13:33] <ShiftPlusOne> Aranel, are you asking about running testdisk on an image or actually witting the image over the hdd?
[13:33] <plugwash> you want kill -9
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[13:34] <Aranel> ShiftPlusOne: I'm making a copy of sdcard as an image file. How about formatting an external disk with that image and repair it there?
[13:35] <ShiftPlusOne> I am not sure how that would help
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[13:36] <Aranel> ShiftPlusOne: so, do you know why fsck fails and complains about superblock flags? FS looks okay on the paper but I can't mount it.
[13:37] <ShiftPlusOne> Why do you say it looks ok? Gparted is a partitioning tool, not an FS repair tool, so it doesn't matter what it says about it =/
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[13:38] <Aranel> ShiftPlusOne: there's a FAT partition next to ext4 on the same card. It works perfectly, so maybe (guessing) the card is not that badly damaged.
[13:38] <ShiftPlusOne> That fat partition isn't used much at all, only for booting, so it's very unlikely to get damaged in the first place.
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[13:39] <ShiftPlusOne> The sd card itself is probably fine, the issue is that your ext partition got corrupted.
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[14:18] <Kane> o/
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[15:05] <Silox|> ShiftPlusOne: I managed (after a few household tasks) to mount the stuff in Qemu. However I am not sure what this option does: -append "root=/dev/sda2 panic=1". The man says that it should point to your root file system, but is that the root filesystem on the SD-card or on your main laptop?
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[15:06] <ShiftPlusOne> Silox|, those parameters go to the kernel. The kernel will see the disk as /dev/sda
[15:06] <ShiftPlusOne> so /dev/sda2 is right
[15:07] <Silox|> Okidoke
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[16:48] <steve_rox> too quiet again :-P
[16:51] <BCMM> any idea where i can find the config for raspbian's kernel?
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[16:51] <mgottschlag> somewhere in /sys/ or /proc/?
[16:52] <BCMM> /proc/config.gz if it's enabled in the kernel
[16:52] <BCMM> but i don't have a running system right now and was hoping for a website
[16:53] <BCMM> actually, can somebody who does have a pi running pastebin it?
[16:55] <linuxstb> BCMM: http://linuxstb.cream.org/config.txt
[16:55] <BCMM> linuxstb: thanks!
[16:55] <linuxstb> Linux raspberrypi 3.6.11+ #474 PREEMPT Thu Jun 13 17:14:42 BST 2013 armv6l GNU/Linux
[16:56] <BCMM> CONFIG_USB_HID=y makes life easier :)
[16:57] <BCMM> amongst other things, was wondering whether init=/bin/sh would work
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[17:16] <PipeDale> steve_rox: it's always quiet
[17:17] <ddxfish> totally
[17:17] <PipeDale> why are most the Small ISP's capping fibre usage
[17:17] <PipeDale> and charging an earth :\
[17:17] <ddxfish> comcast capped me at my 350gb limit last month... bastards
[17:18] <PipeDale> I've seend some packages in UK with 20GB usage
[17:18] <PipeDale> seen*
[17:18] <PipeDale> at �23 /mo
[17:18] <ddxfish> comcast offers a 5gb plan now too, if u are less than 5gb a month they credit u $5
[17:19] <PipeDale> omg:/
[17:19] <ddxfish> aimed for "casual" users lol
[17:19] <PipeDale> i use far to much
[17:19] <PipeDale> just on netflix
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[17:19] <ddxfish> i wish netflix ran on linux, so mad at that... dont wanna use wine to do it!
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[17:19] <pagios> hi guys
[17:19] <ddxfish> :)
[17:19] <pagios> whats the latest kernel running on pi?
[17:19] <CDR`> Hi
[17:19] <pagios> and from where ca i download from
[17:19] <ddxfish> Linux raspberrypi 3.6.11+ #474 PREEMPT Thu Jun 13 17:14:42 BST 2013 armv6l GNU/Linux
[17:20] <PipeDale> 3.6.11
[17:20] <PipeDale> i believe?
[17:20] <ddxfish> yep
[17:20] <pagios> 3.6?!
[17:20] <PipeDale> and apt-get ?
[17:20] <pagios> thats too old
[17:20] <ddxfish> idk where to dl it from tho, and debian uses older packages a lot
[17:20] <ddxfish> grub 1.99 is still on debian regular :/
[17:20] <pagios> we are at 3.10.7
[17:20] <pagios> latest is 3.6?
[17:20] <PipeDale> pagios: on debian yes.
[17:20] <PipeDale> and RPi
[17:21] <pagios> what about ARCH or ubuntu?
[17:21] <pagios> ported?
[17:21] <ddxfish> debian uses old packages for evvvverything tho. Arch ported yes, so is pidora
[17:21] <PipeDale> never used arch :P
[17:22] <PipeDale> ddxfish: i used 119.96GB on netflix last month
[17:22] <ddxfish> how do u know? does netflix tell u?
[17:22] <PipeDale> nope
[17:22] <PipeDale> router does :P
[17:22] <ddxfish> traffic monitor?
[17:22] <ddxfish> ah
[17:22] <PipeDale> i have 1 PS3 just for netflix usage
[17:22] <ddxfish> i stream HD like... all day long... star trek!
[17:23] <PipeDale> I'm on crappy ADSL atm :(
[17:23] <ddxfish> i remember when i wanted ADSL like 10 years ago hehe
[17:23] <PipeDale> well ADSL2+
[17:24] <PipeDale> got to lose �100 just for BT to come install my Fibre Modem
[17:24] <ddxfish> move to the city, i almost moved to new york for the bandwidth
[17:25] <PipeDale> ddxfish: we have Fibre everywhere in my town
[17:25] <PipeDale> i live in a small village
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[17:25] <PipeDale> and i'm getting it installed wednesday
[17:25] <ddxfish> cable is better here than fiber i think, but fiber does have such high bandwidth
[17:25] <PipeDale> Unlimited bandwidth
[17:25] <PipeDale> for �20 /mo
[17:26] <PipeDale> :p
[17:26] <ddxfish> whoa lucky
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[17:26] <PipeDale> hence i don't understand why other small ISP's charge so much
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[17:28] <PipeDale> http://www.zen.co.uk/business/broadband/fibre-optic-broadband.aspx
[17:28] <PipeDale> Crazy
[17:28] <steve_rox> using adsl here , wont get fiber optic in the area for many years
[17:29] <steve_rox> need to get a new adsl router/modem but most ive seen look total rubbish
[17:30] <[Saint]> TP-LINK is a brand I find offers reasonable quality/price point.
[17:30] <steve_rox> was trying to get another netgear router
[17:30] <steve_rox> they seem to have gone poor
[17:30] <PipeDale> Netgear are solid
[17:31] <PipeDale> the older ones
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[17:31] <steve_rox> yeah mines years old
[17:31] <PipeDale> I have 3 netgears here
[17:31] <steve_rox> but some the caps are bludgin inside
[17:31] <PipeDale> from the AOL adsl days
[17:31] <steve_rox> its starting to get issues syncing and stuff
[17:32] <PipeDale> I have a speedtouch atm :(
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[17:32] <steve_rox> i replaced some the caps in the router
[17:32] <PipeDale> that hates ADSL, slightest bit of noise on the line it reboots
[17:32] <steve_rox> sounds bad
[17:32] <PipeDale> It was shocking with BE/o2
[17:33] <PipeDale> better with PlusNET
[17:33] <PipeDale> every 2days, it would just reboot.
[17:33] <steve_rox> years ago i used to have a Dlink modem router , that crashed when you used to ping too many targets
[17:33] <steve_rox> never going Dlink again
[17:33] <PipeDale> HAHAHA!
[17:33] <PipeDale> that's messed up.
[17:34] <steve_rox> if you tryed to do a server listing on steam it would crash it
[17:34] <steve_rox> youd have to reboot it every day
[17:34] <PipeDale> Wtf? that sounds bad
[17:34] <steve_rox> but this netgear is solid
[17:34] <PipeDale> what model?
[17:35] <steve_rox> i cant rember off the top my head
[17:35] <steve_rox> then i recall buying a Dlink router/hub thing
[17:35] <steve_rox> i configured that then it bricked itself
[17:35] <steve_rox> took that back to the store and got a replacement
[17:35] <steve_rox> configued that seemed to work
[17:35] <steve_rox> 3 weeks later it bricked itself
[17:36] <steve_rox> threw it across the room and forgot about it
[17:36] <PipeDale> that'll fix it :P
[17:36] <steve_rox> indeed
[17:36] <steve_rox> if i ever find it again maybe it will make a good project box
[17:36] <PipeDale> Netgear DG834G <-- that's what i have laying around at home
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[17:37] <steve_rox> the exact one im using
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[17:37] <PipeDale> i use to ring AOL every month, they'd send me a new Netgear DG834G
[17:37] <PipeDale> I use to sell them on ebay.
[17:37] <steve_rox> muhahaha
[17:38] <steve_rox> they seem a solid router
[17:38] <PipeDale> they use to say " You'll be starting a new 12 month contract "
[17:38] <steve_rox> there are a few vunrablitys but not total serious
[17:38] <PipeDale> they are so stable
[17:38] <steve_rox> maybe i should try get one off ebay
[17:38] <PipeDale> better sync speeds then some standard ISP routers
[17:38] <steve_rox> should be able to clone my settings to it
[17:39] <PipeDale> Right, i'm gonna try leach iOS 7 again ^__^
[17:39] <steve_rox> i dont know if the router had a fault , one day i completely lost connection for a day and a night it was unable to sync
[17:39] <PipeDale> steve_rox: may be a local issue.
[17:39] <PipeDale> maybe*
[17:39] <steve_rox> i checked cables filters
[17:40] <steve_rox> even phoned isp to make em do a line diagnostic
[17:40] <PipeDale> possibly exchange related
[17:40] <PipeDale> they don't like to admit too much :p
[17:40] <steve_rox> i dunno
[17:40] <steve_rox> i ended up changeing out 3 caps
[17:40] <steve_rox> salvaged off a old dead motherboard :-D
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[17:42] <steve_rox> only issue is the caps are taller than the original
[17:43] <PipeDale> what the hell
[17:44] <PipeDale> Katie Price use to be quite pretty :o
[17:44] <steve_rox> i forget who that is
[17:44] <PipeDale> http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/5080567/Katie-Price-My-nightmare-birth-eight-weeks-early.html
[17:44] <PipeDale> and she's had another kid hahaha :p
[17:45] <steve_rox> :-P
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[17:47] <steve_rox> wonder how much one them netgears is worth payin for now
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[17:55] <PipeDale> steve_rox: �40
[17:57] <PipeDale> might install radvd on my Pi
[17:57] <PipeDale> Give it something to do :P
[17:57] * [Saint] cringes at the suggestion Katy Price was once attractive
[17:57] <[Saint]> *ie
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[17:58] <steve_rox> i found some going cheap on ebay for about �8
[17:59] <steve_rox> not new mind
[18:00] <PipeDale> steve_rox: ssssssssssssss
[18:01] <steve_rox> hmm?
[18:01] <PipeDale> Crappy SSH died
[18:01] <PipeDale> :o
[18:02] <PipeDale> steve_rox: they a bin?
[18:02] <steve_rox> i dunos
[18:03] <PipeDale> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Netgear-Wireless-G-ADSL-2-2-Modem-Broadband-Router-DG834G-/181198138389?pt=UK_Computing_Wireless_Routers&hash=item2a30402c15
[18:03] <PipeDale> �15
[18:03] <PipeDale> pretty cheap
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[18:03] <steve_rox> it seems so
[18:03] <steve_rox> wonder what the caps are like inside
[18:04] <PipeDale> oh god
[18:04] <PipeDale> iphone stuck in reboot cycle
[18:04] <PipeDale> :(
[18:04] <steve_rox> your god cant help you now
[18:04] <x29a> ireb to the rescue
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[18:05] <PipeDale> x29a: cox it's ios 7 beta
[18:05] <PipeDale> coz*
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[18:05] <PipeDale> It's a *FAIL*
[18:06] <x29a> ah, i c
[18:06] <PipeDale> now it's booted
[18:06] <PipeDale> OK THEN!
[18:07] <x29a> i just had my fair share of iphone wrath, 3G batt drained, "forgot its OS", cant restore because of on vacation, apps in appstore require ios5, grrrr
[18:08] <PipeDale> most the apps require ios 4.3+
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[18:15] <nerdboy> moin
[18:15] <steve_rox> perhaps
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[18:23] <x29a> PipeDale: why not provide the last working version for the 4.2.x devices then?
[18:24] <x29a> i know the marketing answer...
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[18:25] <[Saint]> This is Apple. Their very existence relies on the fact that you'll eventually need to buy a whole other handset to run the next big thing.
[18:25] <[Saint]> Do people not realize this yet?
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[18:25] <steve_rox> i guess not
[18:26] <PipeDale> [Saint]: correct :)
[18:26] <PipeDale> the 3GS is still going & supported
[18:26] <[Saint]> ...for now.
[18:26] <PipeDale> that will eventually become unsupported.
[18:26] <[Saint]> :)
[18:26] <PhotoJim> it's a pretty old smartphone as smartphones go.
[18:26] <PipeDale> App Devs have to move on i guess.
[18:26] <PhotoJim> I still have my 3G. I use it for US prepaid when I travel. it's good enough.
[18:26] <x29a> PhotoJim: why not let the owner decide what is old and what not
[18:27] <x29a> old might just as well be sufficient
[18:27] <PhotoJim> x29a: it's not up to the owner, really. it's up to the programmers.
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[18:27] <PhotoJim> apps on my iPhone 3G are still updated, so obviously some programmers still support it.
[18:27] <[Saint]> "We said so."
[18:27] <PhotoJim> and some move on.
[18:27] <x29a> [Saint]: as i said, i do see the marketing point, but morally, i disagree. well, it was not my device, so i cant NOT buy their products again, oh well
[18:28] <PipeDale> spotify works on iOS 4 :p
[18:28] <[Saint]> "Rather than leave out a feature the hardware cannot support - you miss out entirely! Buy a new phone, sincerely, Cupertino."
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[18:28] <x29a> PhotoJim: well, to a certain degree. if the new features are just not relevant to the core, why not provide the old working version for devices < 4.3
[18:29] <PhotoJim> x29a: don't disagree. and believe me, I use some old stuff. I still have a running 486 :)
[18:29] <PipeDale> there isn't much difference between 3G/3GS
[18:29] <PhotoJim> PipeDale: significantly faster CPU. that's the real difference. iOS 4.x is really sluggish on the iPhone 3G.
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[18:30] <PipeDale> PhotoJim: can't be as slugish as iOS 7 on the 4? ;p
[18:30] <PipeDale> i mean iOS 7 Beta 1
[18:30] <PipeDale> That was just stupid.
[18:30] <PhotoJim> PipeDale: don't know from experience, but probably true :)
[18:30] <kephra> PhotoJim, I still have a P/390 CPU - sitting in the shelf to provide the license for my VM/ESA under disaster recovery condition ;-)
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[18:30] <x29a> PhotoJim: with the 80486, you had the choice. where is my choice now?
[18:30] <PipeDale> the phone would ring, and then the phone would display you have a call
[18:30] <PhotoJim> kephra: Heh. My oldest is a 6502 in a VIC-20.
[18:31] <[Saint]> My biggest issue is -"Want the source? Hahahahaha....no."
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[18:31] <[Saint]> Many products do this, but it doesn't mean I need to support them.
[18:31] <PhotoJim> x29a: time someone made an open source smartphone platform then, truly open source, so that the world community can support it. hopefully there's enough demand.
[18:32] <[Saint]> PhotoJim: demand or no - it is hugely restrictively expensive.
[18:32] <PipeDale> then should make iOS 4.2.x opensource
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[18:32] <[Saint]> HUGELY so.
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[18:32] <PhotoJim> [Saint]: True.
[18:32] <x29a> PhotoJim: of course there is not enough demand
[18:32] <[Saint]> The demand is there, the cost is just extreme.
[18:32] <PhotoJim> PipeDale: using that logic, Microsoft should make Windows 95 open source. not expecting it to happen :)
[18:32] <x29a> nokia n900 was going in the right direction
[18:32] <PhotoJim> x29a: then we have to live with what there is enough demand for. all we can do is moderate our want for apps enough that we can live without the bleeding edge.
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[18:33] <PipeDale> rather than jailbreak it
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[18:33] <PipeDale> because you can still get apps on iOS 4.2.x if you jailbreak
[18:33] <[Saint]> a tiny, tiny, tiny subset.
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[18:34] <knob> Good afternoon everyone
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[18:54] <ninharp_> now i got it :) http://athena.noxa.de/~michael/raspilcd.jpg
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[18:57] <knob> Hey guys, inside the default Raspbian install. Is there a program I can use to play .h264 videos?
[18:58] <knob> I just took a test video with the rPi Camera Board... and, the video saved fine locally... yet not sure if there's a program I can use to test it?
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[19:05] <steve_rox> omxplayer?
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[19:10] <coin3d> hi there. are there any sd cards which can handle overclocking?
[19:11] <knob> steve_rox, omxplayer... on my way to check it out
[19:11] <knob> thanks!
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[19:13] <steve_rox> it may allready be installed on the rpi
[19:14] <steve_rox> vlc on win32 seems to be able to play vids the rpicam creates too
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[19:14] <CeilingKitten> knob, omxplayer is the only video player on the rpi that has accelorated graphics, if you have raspbian it maybe install by default not sure about others
[19:14] <CeilingKitten> any good videoplayer should be able to play anything the rpicam outputs
[19:15] <CeilingKitten> vlc, umplayer, mplayer classic, splayer, kmplayer, etc,. =] most come with the codecs already or they can be download
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[19:17] <knob> CeilingKitten, steve_rox thanks!! Checking it out now... I'm reinstalling my rpi image. I don't know wth I did, that I borked it
[19:17] <knob> Cool. I did get one video out... and it saved locally to disk. Yet whilst playing with the camera, I tugged on something. rPi hung. I rebooted... and it didn't reboot successfully
[19:17] <knob> unplugged al peripherials except power and hdmi... and still won't boot into xwindows
[19:17] <knob> soo... I formatted the card, and I'm going to reinstall now
[19:17] <steve_rox> fun :-)
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[19:39] * [Saint] wonders why more people don't suggest replacing the boot partition contents in cases listed above.
[19:39] <[Saint]> This is almost always the cause in "sudden power off/hang == won't boot" instances in my experience.
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[19:52] <BurtyB> [Saint], mine too - saves the hastle
[19:54] <fewhuoef> *hassle
[19:54] <[Saint]> Heyyyyy! Its "that guy"! :P
[19:54] <[Saint]> The guy everyone loves, shaming us, correcting our mistakes. Thankyou, kind and nobel hero of the Internets.
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[19:56] <BurtyB> fewhuoef, do I look bothered? (no)
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[20:33] <King_DuckZ> hello
[20:34] <King_DuckZ> I'm having a weird problem with the wifi on my raspberry pi, max download speed I get is 50k and whenever I download something the hole home network slows down a lot
[20:35] <King_DuckZ> funny thing is that I have the exact same wifi dongle on another raspberry (256 MiB model) and it works just fine there, same distro, same stuff
[20:35] <King_DuckZ> the problem is on the 512 MiB model
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[20:36] <King_DuckZ> I've found a couple discussions on the internet but I can't fix the problem :(
[20:40] <ShiftPlusOne> are you using the same power supply and cable on both pis?
[20:41] <King_DuckZ> no, but to rule that problem out I've put the problematic pi next to the router, with a 1A power and all of the usb devices connected to a powered hub
[20:42] <King_DuckZ> wifi is Bus 001 Device 008: ID 7392:7811 Edimax Technology Co., Ltd EW-7811Un 802.11n Wireless Adapter [Realtek RTL8188CUS]
[20:42] <King_DuckZ> I've just installed aur/dkms-8192cu though it doesn't seem to make any difference
[20:43] <ShiftPlusOne> Not sure how that rules anything out. Try running the 512 with the supply and cable you used for the 256 and see if it makes a difference.
[20:45] <King_DuckZ> ok, then I have to switch it off... that's where the irc program is on, brb
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[20:56] <King_DuckZ> hmm it seems to work, but I don't get it
[20:57] <King_DuckZ> both the power sources I tried the faulty pi with ar 3A+, while the working pi is os a 1A
[20:58] <ShiftPlusOne> Those numbers don't tell you anything useful about the power supply.
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[20:59] <ShiftPlusOne> It's just that the manufacturer claims that the supply can provide 3A.... It doesn't tell you whether it actually can, how well regulated the voltage is, or what the resistance in the cable is
[21:00] <King_DuckZ> so the usb cable could be a problem as well?
[21:00] <Tachyon`> hrm, audacious isn't working, doesn't seem to want to play audio at all, just skips over the files whether set to ALSA, SDL or w/e
[21:00] <Tachyon`> is there a fix for that or should I just use another player
[21:00] <ShiftPlusOne> King_DuckZ, yup, could be and often is.
[21:01] <King_DuckZ> ShiftPlusOne: ok, thanks for helping... I was so sure the power supply was good, and I so much don't want to restart the other pi, that I would have never tried :)
[21:02] <ShiftPlusOne> Things like that are almost always a power issue =(
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[21:04] <King_DuckZ> I'll see if I can buy the same adapter again
[21:05] <King_DuckZ> or is there an official/suggested one?
[21:05] <ShiftPlusOne> nope
[21:06] <King_DuckZ> heh, now on the same adapter where it didn't work it does, just switched to a different usb cable
[21:06] <King_DuckZ> damn, it took me so long to find out... :/
[21:06] <ShiftPlusOne> that narrows it down then
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[21:07] <King_DuckZ> thanks for helping, I must go now
[21:07] <ShiftPlusOne> np
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[21:18] <letstest> hi i am trying to use the pi as a baby monitor. I am trying to run darkice and i get this error - DarkIce: ConfigSection.cpp:117: format missing in section icecast-0 [0] . the config section has it set as mp3
[21:18] <letstest> any ideas on why i am getting this error? I realize that this is not really a pi issue but more of a darkice one. but i am a little stuck here
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[21:21] <mervaka> letstest: ironically, a baby monitor was a piece of coursework for my electronics degree
[21:22] <ki9a> Is there an alternative to a powered usb hub to get the rpi + wifi + usb hd working on 1 power source?
[21:22] <mervaka> though we used alsa, pipes and sockets
[21:22] <letstest> using a pi?
[21:22] <letstest> oh
[21:22] <ShiftPlusOne> ki9a, shorting the polyfuse or powering through gpio
[21:22] <ki9a> ShiftPlusOne: Is that described anywhere?
[21:22] <ki9a> howto guide or something
[21:22] <ShiftPlusOne> probably, but there's not much more to it
[21:23] <mervaka> powering through gpio is your best bet.
[21:23] <ShiftPlusOne> Keep in mind you're bypassing protection when you do that, so you can damage your pi a bit easier.
[21:23] <mervaka> ya
[21:23] <mervaka> personally i'd just use the hub
[21:24] <ki9a> not many good powered hubs that work sold in NL
[21:24] <letstest> looks like my issue like always was a typo in the config :-)
[21:24] <mervaka> ki9a: order one online?
[21:25] <ki9a> I'll consider it. no way to "split" usb power before it goes in so both hd and rpi get power from that?
[21:25] <ShiftPlusOne> That would be the same as powering through gpio
[21:25] <ki9a> (and the rpi is still protected by the fuse)
[21:25] <ki9a> I guess it would be
[21:26] <ShiftPlusOne> It wouldn't be protected by the fuse, since it could draw from the other end when the fuse trips
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[21:26] <ki9a> yeah
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[21:27] <Arnex> Hey guys I have an RPI that I use as a file and media server. For some reason when I try to use X over ssh when connecting remotely to the RPI it doesn't load the gui programs correctly. Anyone else have this issue? Is there something I need to install to the default Raspbian setup to get it to work?
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[21:42] <gvo> What gui for instance?
[21:44] <ShiftPlusOne> he's gone
[21:44] <gvo> I see
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[22:08] <kephra> http://kephra.de/blog/Hackerspace/IMG_20130809_224127_800x600.jpg <- inside my birdcv camera
[22:09] <steve_rox> thats a interesting looking thingy
[22:10] <steve_rox> no idea what it does mind
[22:10] <kephra> http://kephra.de/blog/Hackerspace/IMG_20130816_151728-600x800.jpg <- complete setup with statif and solar panel
[22:10] <steve_rox> salvaged pc front led cables :)
[22:11] <kephra> steve_rox, idea is to put it outside to watch birds on pi cam
[22:11] <SpeedEvil> I'm guessing it's running 'motion' - with a companion rifle to shoot them out of the air and a auto-processing machine, to fry them into tasty treats.
[22:11] <steve_rox> oh rights
[22:11] <chod> mmm cripsy
[22:11] <steve_rox> nah that would be a sentry turret
[22:11] <steve_rox> i did something near same with my rpi
[22:12] <steve_rox> salved a camcorder screw thread so i could put in on tripod
[22:12] <chod> sentry gun with bb & paintball
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[22:12] <kephra> the box also contains an arduino for booting/shutdown of the pi, and for providing more IO
[22:12] <steve_rox> interesting
[22:12] <steve_rox> mine did not go that advanced
[22:13] <steve_rox> does that lead acid battery give much runtime?
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[22:13] <kephra> yes, together with the solar panel
[22:13] <kephra> without solar panel about 14 hours
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[22:14] <steve_rox> dident expect that
[22:14] <steve_rox> interesting
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[22:15] <steve_rox> ran out of room in my rpi project box
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[22:17] <steve_rox> a nightmare squeeseing things in
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[22:26] <kephra> steve_rox, reminds me at the cable chaos inside motorbike front lights
[22:27] <steve_rox> :-D
[22:28] <rikkib> I am struggling trying to think of a way to mount the camera
[22:28] <steve_rox> i used the screw holes on its pcb
[22:29] <steve_rox> and a bit of hot glue to ensure its secure
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[22:32] <steve_rox> was thinking of twisting the lense to change its focus but its so tiny to manipulate
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[22:34] <SpeedEvil> reading glasses
[22:34] <SpeedEvil> Seriously
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[23:11] <josla> I would like to use my RPI to start a PSU by pulling the PS_ON low with a GPIO-pin. I read that the GPIO-pins only tolerate a maximum of 3.3V, but the PS_ON is supposed to be pulled to 5 V by the PSU (actually, I measure 2.65 V with my multimeter). My question is if I could potentially damage my RPI if i pull PS_ON low directly with a GPIO-pin?
[23:13] <room2426> If you aren't 100% sure of what to do you could damage it, yes
[23:13] <rikkib> Possibly... You really need a buffer
[23:13] <rikkib> A transistor switch
[23:13] <josla> I guess a cheap transistor would do?
[23:14] <josla> all right
[23:14] <rikkib> 2n2222
[23:14] <josla> thanks!
[23:15] <rikkib> That is what I use for the relays I switch
[23:15] <rikkib> The relays I use use high side pnp and opto
[23:16] <rikkib> Both put over 3.3v on the gpio if connected directly
[23:17] <rikkib> There are relay boards that you can direct connect to the RPi
[23:19] <josla> just want the cheapest alternative :)
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[23:19] <letstest> any recommendations for a bluetooth dongle for the pi?
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[23:27] <mrvector> Good evening, I'm trying to use Chadderz usb driver, but I'm getting "Out of memory" when trying to initialise it, any pointers on how to figure out why this is happening? I've tried looking at the source but can't quite make out what could be causing it.
[23:31] <rikkib> malloc
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[23:33] <mrvector> Well it's throwing the error inside MemoryAllocate (https://github.com/Chadderz121/csud/blob/master/source/platform/platform.c), I never read much about memory management, so I don't see why it wouldn't work.
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[23:47] * SgrA (~sgra@gateway/tor-sasl/sgra) has joined #raspberrypi
[23:49] * Thra11 (~Thra11@ Quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
[23:49] * S0-2 (~sgra@gateway/tor-sasl/sgra) Quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
[23:51] * loadbang (~loadbang@host81-157-35-56.range81-157.btcentralplus.com) has joined #raspberrypi
[23:51] * S0-2 (~sgra@gateway/tor-sasl/sgra) has joined #raspberrypi
[23:51] * AeroNotix (~xeno@abny205.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) Quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
[23:52] * SgrA (~sgra@gateway/tor-sasl/sgra) Quit (Disconnected by services)
[23:52] * S0-2 is now known as SgrA
[23:57] * paogit (~paogit@gateway/tor-sasl/paogit) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)
[23:58] * KiltedPi (~Nbane@host-89-241-132-31.as13285.net) has joined #raspberrypi
[23:58] * letstest (8ea21418@gateway/web/freenode/ip. Quit (Quit: Page closed)

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