#raspberrypi IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2013-08-19

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[0:11] <nekwebdev> Hello everyone :)
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[0:27] <ShorTie> Mornin
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[0:50] * TheSeven really needs to dig into the details how the host mode of this USB core works
[0:51] * TheSeven has never seen such an unstable USB host before
[0:51] <TheSeven> lots of trouble with randomly failing transfers... everything from I/O errors to timeouts, on both control and bulk transfers
[0:51] <TheSeven> and MASSIVE latency problems
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[1:02] <ShorTie> sure you got good power TheSeven , and don't forget nic and usb are like 1
[1:02] <TheSeven> power isn't a problem
[1:02] <TheSeven> powered via expansion header with a massive power supply
[1:03] <TheSeven> USB output polyfuses bridged
[1:03] <TheSeven> and the USB device isn't even using much power from the bus (like 20mA on one of them, zero on the other)
[1:04] <TheSeven> as soon as there is significant traffic on the bus (bitbanging the pins of an FTDI chip) it starts acting up
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[1:08] <Tachyon`> https://www.spaceglasses.com/ <- looks like that might be usable with the pi (although all the software is windows)
[1:10] <nekwebdev> Quick question. I have a 16Gb SD card but not much of it is used. Backing it up using dd and the count option to make it something like 6Gb can work? Then I can put it on an 8Gb card and use raspi-config on that card to use up the 2Gb left?
[1:11] <nekwebdev> I just cant find a way to mount my internal SD card reader in virtualbox to run gparted on it to shrink it before the dd backup
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[1:23] <chithead> nekwebdev: need to resize the filesystem first, then the partition
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[1:26] <nekwebdev> yeah I need to find a way to mount that SD card in a linux on my Macbook air grrr
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[1:29] <linuxstb> nekwebdev: Just create a 16GB image from OS X, then transfer it to Linux, and work on the image (I'm guessing - most linux tools can work on files instead of real devices)
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[1:48] <PipeDale> woah
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[1:48] <PipeDale> It's raining :(
[1:49] <ShorTie> it's been doing that all day here .. :/~
[1:49] <PipeDale> ShorTie: we are ment to have a hot week here this week
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[1:50] <ShorTie> is that good or bad ??
[1:50] <PipeDale> It's bad for me :(
[1:51] <PipeDale> because my job, i can't really hide from it
[1:51] <ShorTie> oh, bummer then
[1:51] <PipeDale> I'm on a roof (No shade)
[1:51] <PipeDale> and the UK it's rare for hot spells :p
[1:51] <ShorTie> ya, that a 3-9 am job this time of year
[1:53] <PipeDale> I need to work for next 2months
[1:53] <PipeDale> solid
[1:53] <PipeDale> i've just spent �150 on football tickets!
[1:53] <rikkib> Fine and overcast 18 deg C light breeze... Plum tree in flower so spring is here.
[1:54] <PipeDale> rikkib: where you located?
[1:54] <rikkib> NZ
[1:54] <PipeDale> O_o
[1:54] <rikkib> Rural NZ
[1:54] <PipeDale> right now it's 14c here
[1:54] <rikkib> rf72sr
[1:54] <PipeDale> but hard rain :/
[1:55] <PipeDale> which is fine... keeping the Pi cool :)
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[1:58] <ShorTie> did you apt-get install umbrella ??
[1:59] <PipeDale> yeah :p
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[2:01] <PipeDale> ShorTie: it's in my shed
[2:01] <PipeDale> so, cooler outside the better
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[2:07] <PipeDale> wow
[2:08] <PipeDale> my lag is increasing highly
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[2:22] * [Saint] senses that quassel reporting 0ms lag between client/core is somewhat wrong
[2:23] <[Saint]> the physical locations of each make this an impossibility
[2:24] <[Saint]> (that, and the tinsel, twistie ties, and string that make up the network between us)
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[3:49] <ddxfish> well well well
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[4:14] <alpha1125> i'm in the shell, directly, bare metal, not through ssh. My keyboard was typing fine, en-utf8. Not it's typing jiberish… anyway to reset to en-us keyboard layout
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[4:16] <alpha1125> sovled it's the windows altmenu shift key
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[4:17] <minidino> Do I need a license key to play H.264 encoded video?
[4:21] <linuxstb> No
[4:21] <PhotoJim> only if you are playing it while driving
[4:21] <PhotoJim> or transmitting on amateur radio frequencies :)
[4:21] <minidino> XP
[4:21] <minidino> Idk why this video wont play then
[4:21] <minidino> the audio works
[4:23] <minidino> How do OpenELEC, Raspbmc, and XBian compare?
[4:23] <minidino> anyone have experienece in all three?
[4:23] <minidino> lol
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[4:23] <linuxstb> minidino: You sure it's h264?
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[4:24] <fr0g911> ive had that happen sometimes just had to restart and worked
[4:24] <minidino> ya its apparently avc1 H.264/MPEG-4 AVC
[4:25] <minidino> i might just have to fiddle around with stuff though idk
[4:26] <fr0g911> Don't Dig Too Deep, You Might Get Burned By The Molten Lava
[4:26] <minidino> o noes
[4:27] <pronto> http://hackaday.com/2013/08/18/liquid-nitrogen-finally-makes-an-arduino-project-cool/ lolololol
[4:29] <minidino> lel
[4:30] <minidino> I want some liquid nitrogen... XD
[4:32] <CeilingKitten> thats a title fit for hackaday since there is so much arduino dislike there sometimes lol
[4:43] <zsentinel> rpi doesnt support PoE right?
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[4:46] <djapo> does anyone here have xmonad on their pi?
[4:48] <linuxstb> zsentinel: Correct.
[4:49] <zsentinel> thati s unfortunate, did they g ive a reason why?
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[4:49] <zsentinel> PoE would have been such a huge feature that I think most people would have had no problem paying a little more for it on a B model
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[4:51] <linuxstb> zsentinel: I think they simply had to draw the line somewhere to keep within their target price. But I agree, it would be very nice.
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[4:51] <zsentinel> yeah i hope they add it in a future revision
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[4:54] <JakeSays> 'sup peeps
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[4:54] <alpha1125> anyone know if a cli wizzard to configure/setup wpa2 wirless connection? cnetworkmanager isn't available via apt-get
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[4:56] <JakeSays> alpha1125: yeah there's one
[4:56] <JakeSays> isomething
[4:56] <alpha1125> seriously?
[4:56] <JakeSays> yeah but i dont remeber what its called :(
[4:57] * PhotoJim uses wire so won't be much help
[5:02] <zsentinel> if i want to use the other 14gb on my 16gb SD card, i can just safely create another partition?
[5:02] <zsentinel> i noticed by default there is 1 primary and 1 extended
[5:02] <JakeSays> zsentinel: just expand the existing partition to include all of the card
[5:03] <zsentinel> ok i guess that works too
[5:04] <JakeSays> zsentinel: well, you can create another partition if you want
[5:04] <zsentinel> i was going to create another and mount it at /home
[5:05] * LaxWasHere is now known as LaxWasThere
[5:06] <zsentinel> i am really surprised by the speed of this microcenter class 10 sd card
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[5:09] <zsentinel> umm nevermind lol
[5:13] <zsentinel> it was running well but now i am having issues, i did a full systme update and nw i am getting Operation too slow. Less than 1 bytes/sec transferred the last 10 seconds
[5:13] <zsentinel> error: failed to update alarm (download library error)
[5:13] <zsentinel> trying to install packages
[5:18] <zsentinel> this is what is going on: http://pastie.org/private/az3ukhguea0buqzisw
[5:18] <zsentinel> it worked perfectly when i booted the first time and did a full system update, it downloaded like 20 packages in like 10 seconds
[5:19] <zsentinel> oh and i didnt put in my paste that i wget a 10mb test file no problem, got 3MB/s
[5:19] <zsentinel> so its not my internet connection/the device network connection
[5:20] <zsentinel> and considering i was able to do a full systme upgrade 30 seconds before i am fairly certain its not arch's mirror
[5:20] <zsentinel> or maybe it is
[5:20] <zsentinel> as i dont know what else it could be
[5:20] <zsentinel> i will give it 10 minutes and try again
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[5:37] <zsentinel> ok must have been the arch mirrors, its working now
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[8:12] <LLckfan> I have a tablet and everytime I go to an app that needs me to sign in it takes me to a page that cannot be displayed. Is there a way around this
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[8:15] <Wolfram74> vexing, i'm having a hard time booting up my pi
[8:15] <Subroutine> LLckfan: connect to the internet.
[8:15] <Wolfram74> setting up a new sd card I can never trouble shoot
[8:15] <LLckfan> It is
[8:15] <Wolfram74> it's too nebulous
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[8:15] <Wolfram74> I do the whole "sudo dd..." invocation and can never tell whether or not it worked
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[8:18] <Wolfram74> If when plugged in only the power light is on, what kind of checks can i do?
[8:18] <hifi> Wolfram74: check that the sd card has the proper partition table
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[8:18] <hifi> and the first partition you see is fat32 and you see some files in there
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[8:19] <Wolfram74> how do i investigate its partition table?
[8:19] <hifi> you're on linux?
[8:19] <Wolfram74> mac os x
[8:19] <hifi> if you can "open" the card in some file browser on the mac you should see some files
[8:19] * hifi knows nothing about macs
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[8:20] <Wolfram74> asumme it's linux for the low level activity
[8:20] <hifi> I doubt 'fdisk -l' works like on linux
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[8:21] <Wolfram74> what might this mean "dd: /dev/rdisk1: Invalid argument"?
[8:21] <hifi> that it didn't write the image file
[8:22] <LLckfan> Hello
[8:22] <LLckfan> I have a tablet and everytime I go to an app that needs me to sign in it takes me to a page that cannot be displayed. Is there a way around this
[8:22] <Wolfram74> which is weird, cause there's definitely stuff in the sd card now
[8:23] <hifi> you see files like 'bootcode'?
[8:23] <hifi> and 'kernel' and 'kernel_emergency'
[8:24] <hifi> I assume the default kernels would be present
[8:25] <Wolfram74> bootcode.bin is present
[8:25] <Wolfram74> kernel_emergency, debug and no flavor are present
[8:25] <Wolfram74> so is bootcode.bin
[8:25] <hifi> ok, so it seems something was written on the card
[8:26] <hifi> can you attach any display to the pi to see what happens when you boot it?
[8:26] <hifi> or did what you said mean you get no picture either
[8:26] <hifi> the pi should boot by showing a rainbowish image
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[8:28] <Wolfram74> yeah, no image
[8:28] <Wolfram74> I plug the micro usb chord in and only the power light goes on
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[8:28] <hifi> the act light does not flash or anything?
[8:30] <Wolfram74> might be a green pixel?
[8:30] <Wolfram74> it's pretty low power compared with the pwr light
[8:30] <LLckfan> Hello
[8:30] <LLckfan> I have a tablet and everytime I go to an app that needs me to sign in it takes me to a page that cannot be displayed. Is there a way around this
[8:31] <Wolfram74> i could believe that it's leakage
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[8:33] <Wolfram74> so formating wise, "MS-DOS(FAT32)" is appropriate?
[8:34] <hifi> it doesn't matter when you write the image
[8:34] <hifi> it overwrites everything
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[8:35] <Wolfram74> if
[8:35] <Wolfram74> sudo dd bs=1m if=/Users/haugen/Documents/Azureus\ Downloads/raspbian-r3/raspbian-r3.img of=/dev/rdisk1
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[8:35] <Wolfram74> produced an erro of "dd: /dev/rdisk1: Invalid argument "
[8:35] <hifi> does it do that immediately
[8:35] <Wolfram74> trying again won't help unless i made a typo
[8:36] <Wolfram74> no, it waits, probably 2 or 3 minutes first
[8:36] <Wolfram74> which makes failure a tad frustrating
[8:36] <hifi> ok, so, is your SD card big enough for the image?
[8:36] <Wolfram74> 8 gigs, it's got the space
[8:39] <hifi> it seems to fail after writing the image to some point
[8:42] <Wolfram74> is the rdisk1 necessary?
[8:42] <Wolfram74> i've read it's faster, but it's something that might be changeable
[8:42] <hifi> I don't know how disk devices work on mac
[8:42] <hifi> I wouldn't be messing with them directly if I wouldn't know what device I'm using
[8:43] <hifi> educated guess would be rdisk0 is your system disk and a single number typo would fry your mac
[8:44] <Wolfram74> well, i'm rerunning it again, maybe i should have given it the verbose command or some such
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[8:45] <ElTimo> Does anyone have a semi-working desktop system that uses Wayland?
[8:45] <LLckfan> I have a tablet and everytime I go to an app that needs me to sign in it takes me to a page that cannot be displayed. Is there a way around this
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[8:54] <Wolfram74> so vexing...
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[9:10] <PipeDale> Morning RPi fans
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[9:18] <Wolfram74> past midnight for some yanks, mind you
[9:19] <Wolfram74> and I'm tired of failing at setting up my sd card, so i'm crashing
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[9:21] <PipeDale> Wolfram74: what you trying to do?
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[9:44] <Armand> w00t! Completed my first USB power board. :D
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[9:50] <yehnan> A question, I had little experiences dealing with JTAG. However, someone asked me how could he solder header for JTAG of Raspberry Pi? Is it hard?
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[9:52] <hifi> afaik there is no useful jtag in the pi
[9:53] <hifi> the jtag that is available is for the nic and usb
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[9:59] <Jck_true> yehnan: Revision 2 includes JTAG pins
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[10:00] <Jck_true> yehnan: https://github.com/dwelch67/raspberrypi/tree/master/armjtag
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[10:00] <hifi> oh, it was added
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[10:04] <yehnan> Jck_true: old boards have header pins. New boards do not. Is soldering hard?
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[10:05] <yehnan> Jck_true: use jumper wires?
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[10:09] <Jck_true> yehnan: The new board just need jumper wires - The old board is pretty complicated from what I can read (Need to solder on the board)
[10:12] <Jck_true> yehnan: Oh - No issue actually - It's just on another pin header - And the soldering is fairly easy if he's got some experience with it
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[10:16] <yehnan> Jck_true: thanks.
[10:16] <Jck_true> yehnan: I wouldn't do it as a first ever soldering project through ;)
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[10:34] <Benguin> Man, I'm so bad at linux sometimes
[10:34] <Benguin> I wanted to try to get my pi all set up before expanding the partitions, like was suggested to me
[10:35] <Benguin> butt I ended up expanding it first anyway for some reason because I guess I ran out of space and ugh
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[10:35] <Benguin> anyway, how do I make a backup of the pi with DD? Or would you suggest some other utility?
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[10:36] <Benguin> And, I suppose there's no way to avoid backup up the 13GiB of empty space if I use DD?
[10:36] <linuxstb> Benguin: "dd" is perfect. Note it's lower-case - unlike Windows, Linux is case-sensitive ;)
[10:36] <Benguin> Heheh, yeah I know, for some reason I just get tempted to capitalise it
[10:37] <Benguin> I sometimes say ls as LS, too
[10:37] <Benguin> Butt not when actually using the command, Ofc.
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[11:31] <Benguin> Is there something you need to do to get archilnuxarm to support programs using ipv6?
[11:37] <f8l> Benguin: dd will make byte-by-byte (or to be more precise – sector-by-sector) copy of the specified device. This means the free space will also be copied. If you want to avoid that, you can use partimage, for example. Just make sure it supports your filesystem well.
[11:38] <f8l> s/filesystem/filesystems/
[11:38] <Benguin> Would it be worth just like
[11:38] <Benguin> copying all the files, instead?
[11:38] <Benguin> eeeh effort
[11:38] <Benguin> I guess I'll just DD-- I mean dd it, I'm in no hurry
[11:38] <f8l> Benguin: Keep in mind you cannot copy a bootsector that way. ;-)
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[11:39] <Dagger3> Benguin: `modprobe ipv6`, I guess. because for some reason nobody compiles the damn thing in for raspi
[11:39] <Benguin> Dagger3: Danke
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[11:49] <hifi> f8l: no bootsector is used or needed
[11:49] <f8l> hifi: I didn't know that. Thanks.
[11:50] <hifi> f8l: if you want to make a file copy, you also need to copy the files from the first fat32 partition that contains the firmware files
[11:50] <hifi> the gpu itself just loads the files from the first partition and it better be fat32
[11:50] <f8l> hifi: Say that to Benguin. ;-)
[11:51] <hifi> I don't know if it would skip all non-fat32 partitions and use the first fat32 one
[11:51] <hifi> I doubt
[11:53] <hifi> assuming the worst it tries to use the first partition as fat32 and find the files, if there is any error it bails out
[11:53] <Benguin> could I attack an external drive, and then get the pi to sync then dd an image its own sdcard to the drive?
[11:53] <Benguin> attach*
[11:53] <hifi> not really
[11:54] <Benguin> I mean, once the pi is running it's basically doing it from memory, right?
[11:54] <hifi> no
[11:54] <Benguin> assuming you don't have anything in swap?
[11:54] <hifi> the SD card is used like a normal hard drive
[11:54] <Benguin> and don't need to load anything
[11:54] <hifi> you can't just hot copy its own contents (in normal circumstances)
[11:54] <Benguin> Why not?
[11:55] <hifi> it's not atomic
[11:55] <Benguin> Hm?
[11:55] <hifi> consider this: you start copying and while it's doing that some program changes some file on the disk
[11:55] <hifi> or even worse, create or remove files
[11:55] <Benguin> What if I close any such programs, load dd and anything else needed into memory, sync, then try?
[11:56] <Benguin> maybe even unmount the card if that's possible
[11:56] <mgottschlag> Benguin: mount ro, sync, then copy
[11:56] <hifi> there are programs you can't just "close"
[11:56] <mgottschlag> that should work
[11:56] <hifi> what mgottschlag said
[11:56] <Benguin> ro being readonly I guess
[11:56] <mgottschlag> yeah
[11:56] <Benguin> So this would work?
[11:56] <Benguin> I don't even have an external drive, I'm just curious is all
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[11:58] <hifi> it's usually more useful to backup your important files automatically rather than the whole system
[11:58] <hifi> the system can be reinstalled and the same files are restored that way
[11:58] <Benguin> Yeah, probably.
[11:58] <Benguin> And would take much less time
[11:58] <hifi> important files can include system configuration files you have changed, of course
[11:59] <Benguin> I'm just super lazy when it comes to backing up, like, I never know what exactly I've changed at that point
[12:00] <Benguin> I always forget something, and then it's too late \o/
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[12:02] <f8l> mgottschlag: Shouldn't that be „sync, remount ro, copy”?
[12:03] <mgottschlag> hm, of course, yes
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[12:51] <Jck_true> throw your entire /etc/ into a git/hg repository
[12:52] <hifi> wouldn't remounting ro do explicit sync anyway
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[13:04] <kleanchap> I am trying to use a few torrent clients on Raspbian to download some Linux distros. The clients are up but not connectinng to any peers. The gateway router for the RPI is the same one used by the Windows box. Torrent download on Windows works fine but it is not working on RPI. Any ideas what I need to look for?
[13:04] <f8l> kleanchap: Port forwarding maybe?
[13:05] <f8l> kleanchap: First, make sure you have Internet connection up.
[13:06] <kleanchap> f8l, I can get system updates and such. No problem there. It is the torrent download. What is Port forwarding? Excuse my ignorance.
[13:07] <kleanchap> I can even go to the Internet sites.
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[13:12] <f8l> kleanchap: It's quite a big subject to be explained here. There are plenty of good tutorials on port forwarding out there.
[13:13] <f8l> kleanchap: It may be the case that torrents are dead. How much peers do they have? Did the torrent client connect to any?
[13:14] <kleanchap> f8l, That's fine. How do I fix the torrent not downloading any thing?
[13:14] <kleanchap> f8l, No. Not connnected to any peers. The same torrent file on Windows works fine.
[13:14] * ShorTie thinkz google
[13:15] <f8l> kleanchap: Are there any error messages? A channel dedicated to your client could be more helpful here…
[13:16] <kleanchap> f8l, There is nothing in the log files to go by.
[13:16] <kleanchap> :-)
[13:17] <kleanchap> Darn...this is driving me mad.
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[13:18] <Kane> moustiquaire o/
[13:19] <f8l> kleanchap: Try to forward ports if you can. You can also try to enable one of NAT traversal techniques in your client (upnp for example).
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[13:19] <spobat> hi
[13:19] <spobat> i got a plain raspberry here before me, but the keyboard does not seem to work ://
[13:20] <spobat> no keys are recognized
[13:20] <spobat> raspberian wheeze
[13:20] <spobat> i tried two different keyboards :O
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[13:20] <jimvin> spobat: Does the caps lock light come on when it is plugged in?
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[13:20] <spobat> no
[13:21] <kleanchap> f8l, Will do. Thanks though.
[13:21] <spobat> any idea? ://
[13:22] <f8l> spobat: The keyboard might need too much power to be used with RPi.
[13:22] <spobat> okay, i thought my two keyboards were pretty standard
[13:22] <spobat> do standard keyboards not do it?
[13:22] <f8l> spobat: Define standard. ;-P
[13:22] <jimvin> They should work. Have you confirmed they work on another machine?
[13:23] <spobat> yep
[13:23] <jimvin> Tried a different USB port?
[13:23] <spobat> there are only two, but yes :D
[13:24] <spobat> yeah, if i connect the keyboard to this macbook it works :D
[13:24] <f8l> spobat: Can you check how much current do they need?
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[13:24] <spobat> the keyboard's back says 5V 100mA
[13:25] <spobat> so i plugged everything in, an the last thing i plug in is the power
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[13:26] <spobat> plugged are: kb, hdmi, sdcard, power
[13:26] <spobat> that's it
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[13:28] <jimvin> Are both keyboards the same model?
[13:28] <spobat> no, they are different ones
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[13:33] <jimvin> spobat: That's the obvious stuff covered. Perhaps your power supply is insufficient?
[13:34] <spobat> the screen is 19" if that matters
[13:34] <jimvin> What PS are you using? What is the max output from it in mA?
[13:34] <spobat> but it has a own power source anyway
[13:34] <spobat> ps?
[13:34] <jimvin> ps = power supply
[13:35] <jimvin> If you have a 300 mA USB power supply for example that probably won't be enough to run the pi
[13:35] <spobat> 5V 1200 mA
[13:35] <jimvin> spobat: Looks legit
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[13:36] <spobat> well
[13:37] <spobat> "no filesystem could mount root"
[13:37] <spobat> -> kernel panic
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[13:37] <spobat> might it be that the sdcard image is invalid? Could it mean that?
[13:38] <RaTTuS|BIG> reburn the image and try again
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[13:38] <jimvin> spobat: It is possible, worth reimaging to check
[13:38] <spobat> I will
[13:41] <PipeDale> Ahhhh
[13:41] <PipeDale> my SD card is failing
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[13:42] <spobat> after following these steps, do i need a terminal command to safely mount/unmout/remove the sdcard?
[13:42] <spobat> http://ideone.com/N1Kf9i
[13:42] <spobat> last time it told me something like "always safely remove..."
[13:43] <RaTTuS|BIG> having done a dd
[13:43] <RaTTuS|BIG> then it should be fine but if you do a sudo sync it will cover all writes
[13:44] <RaTTuS|BIG> sudo sync
[13:44] <spobat> ok
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[13:45] <n3hxs> Some times I had to format my SD card in a camera before imaging on win7... spobat Just a thought.
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[13:46] <spobat> same :/
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[14:01] <PipeDale> my SD card got broke :o
[14:01] <PipeDale> (17/0/0 errors)
[14:01] <SpeedEvil> yay!
[14:03] <PipeDale> Wtf
[14:03] <PipeDale> I might as well throw this card :o
[14:03] <SpeedEvil> :/
[14:04] <SpeedEvil> Have you considered the power supply?
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[14:04] <PipeDale> Warning, had trouble writing out superblocks.
[14:04] <PipeDale> LOL!
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[14:06] <PipeDale> just fdisk'd it
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[14:07] <PipeDale> created an ext3 partition
[14:07] <PipeDale> slapped into windows desktop, now it's formatting
[14:07] <PipeDale> WTF?
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[14:30] <MrVector> Hello! I'm trying to use Chadderz usb driver, but I'm getting "out of memory" messages when calling UsbInitialise(), anyone got any ideas why this might be?
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[14:35] <pksato> I dont know that is "Chadderz usb drive", To find out if I can help.
[14:36] <SpeedEvil> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aorjnobv-I0 - the future of gaming.
[14:36] <MrVector> pksato, this is the driver https://github.com/Chadderz121/csud
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[15:23] <spobat> hey guys
[15:24] <spobat> I wanted to inform you what went wrong before. I used a 1 GB SD card. It works with the 8 gb one now :D
[15:24] <spobat> n3hxs: f8l
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[15:27] <tig|> 'nings all
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[15:28] <zsentinel> can the gpio be used to drive a relay directly?
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[15:28] <zsentinel> not power it, but flip it
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[15:29] <dan2k3k4> du is mg by default?
[15:29] <dan2k3k4> mb*#
[15:30] <dan2k3k4> 94540 mb to download ;o
[15:31] <dan2k3k4> du -h
[15:31] <dan2k3k4> ah much better
[15:32] <dan2k3k4> just 93M
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[15:33] <ShorTie> most likely not zsentinel, it would be better to opto-isolate it
[15:34] <SpeedEvil> There are relays that are sensitive enough.
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[15:34] <SpeedEvil> However - optoisolation is basically insane.
[15:34] <SpeedEvil> A single transistor relay driver - fine
[15:34] <SpeedEvil> Or a ULN2003 like chip
[15:35] <zsentinel> so the issue is there isnt enough voltage on gpio to flip a regular 12v relay?
[15:35] <ShorTie> what is so wrong with opto-isolaters ??
[15:35] <shiftplusone_> kind of overkill unless you're trying to get rid of pesky ground loops or working on medical equipment, isn't it?
[15:35] <IT_Sean> zsentinel: a 12v relay? No. The GPIO supplies 3.3v
[15:36] <zsentinel> well the relay switches 12v of power, i think they can be bought to flip on lower voltage
[15:36] <zsentinel> but i could be wrong, i havent messed with them in years
[15:36] <IT_Sean> Ah, Okay. I thought you were referring to a relay that required 12v to activate.
[15:36] <zsentinel> i am basically wanting to do some cool stuff with a pi and my car
[15:36] <zsentinel> like a pi alarm brain
[15:37] <IT_Sean> either way, you are going to need some intervening components to prevent the relay coil from frying the GPIO pin when you turn the relay on/off
[15:37] <zsentinel> ah ok
[15:37] <kephra> zsentinel, start with a dashcam
[15:37] <zsentinel> yeah dashcam would be fun
[15:37] <zsentinel> using the official camera module?
[15:37] <IT_Sean> Of course!
[15:37] <kephra> and is comparingly easy - you only need some 12V to 5V converter
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[15:38] <zsentinel> i assume people have done this, how are they controlling it?
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[15:38] <kephra> ... that is not getting insanely hot when drawing 700mA@5V
[15:38] <zsentinel> i was thinking maybe a bluetooth link between a custom android app
[15:38] <tig|> I used my cam module in anger at the weekend, we did a live video stream from the top of a high access platform down to a monitor on the ground at the village show :)
[15:38] <zsentinel> or perhaps even wifi direct if the pi supports it
[15:39] <kephra> wifi or bluetooth only with usb stick
[15:39] <IT_Sean> zsentinel: you would need a wifi or bluetooth dongle for the raspi
[15:39] <zsentinel> i would just need a way to link my phone and the pi
[15:39] <zsentinel> yeah i am aware of the need for a dongle though
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[15:39] <zsentinel> is there another way people are using to control their dashcam?
[15:39] <kephra> zsentinel, USB is a good link between PI & phone
[15:39] <zsentinel> id prefer to do it wirelessly
[15:39] <zsentinel> if possible
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[15:40] <zsentinel> if i need to hook up a cable i will be less likely to use it
[15:41] <zsentinel> do they make any enclosures yet that incorporate the camera module?
[15:41] <tig|> zsentinel: yep, there is one from phenoptix
[15:41] <zsentinel> oh sweet
[15:41] <pksato> wifi and a http server on pi. any cellphone with wifi and standar browser can control rpi connects stuff.
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[15:42] <tig|> basically all they have done is cut a hole for the camera to peek out of and some bolt mounting holes
[15:42] <tig|> zsentinel: give me a min and I will upload a pic
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[15:42] <zsentinel> this might be cool: http://www.microcenter.com/product/417976/RGB_Negative_16x2_LCD_and_Keypad_Kit_for_Raspberry_Pi
[15:42] <zsentinel> i could use it to display the status of my dash cam
[15:42] <zsentinel> and also for media playback in the car
[15:43] <IT_Sean> I built that kit recently.
[15:43] <IT_Sean> It's an ice kit.
[15:43] <IT_Sean> *nice
[15:43] <zsentinel> but
[15:43] <zsentinel> does it come with the actual display lol?
[15:43] <IT_Sean> Took me a little over an hour to solder all the bits and bobs together, and about 20 minutes to get it showing messages.
[15:44] <tig|> zsentinel: http://imgur.com/BnPaLN8 (if I have retyped that correctly)
[15:44] <IT_Sean> zsentinel: if you order it from Adafruit it does. Dunno about microcenter
[15:44] <zsentinel> in one picture it shows it with the display, the other picture it doesnt show one
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[15:44] <zsentinel> how much did you pay IT_Sean ?
[15:44] <IT_Sean> Whatever the price is on the Adafruit site.
[15:45] <zsentinel> ah
[15:45] <zsentinel> it must come with it
[15:45] <zsentinel> same price
[15:46] <IT_Sean> As i said, it is a nice kit. If you are halfway decent at soldering, you should have no trouble putting it together.
[15:46] <zsentinel> oh shit i should grab it
[15:46] <IT_Sean> Although, you will need to play around with a biy of Python to bend it to your will.
[15:46] <zsentinel> only 2 left and adafruit is all out
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[15:47] <zsentinel> lol
[15:47] <zsentinel> oh
[15:47] <zsentinel> i said the S word!@
[15:47] <zsentinel> naughty me
[15:47] <IT_Sean> Please familiarize yourself with channel policy.
[15:48] <zsentinel> sorry IT_Sean
[15:48] <zsentinel> but i never got my pm warning
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[15:49] <spobat> my rasp just booted <333
[15:49] <IT_Sean> zsentinel: I just sent you a PM.
[15:50] <zsentinel> i am thinking this lcd kit might not be good for me, i am good at soldering but not micro soldering
[15:51] <IT_Sean> It's all through hole
[15:51] <zsentinel> but this kit would be perfect for my plan of making a car media center since it has the screen and the buttons
[15:51] <zsentinel> my biggest issue would not be shorting the pins on the controller chip
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[15:51] <doc-saintly> Not that it matters so much - but I solved my issue with the RPi. by using autoSSH and Remote Ports in a script on startup
[15:51] <IT_Sean> As i said, it is all through-hole soldering. Tab A into Slot B, bit of solder, done.
[15:52] <zsentinel> ok cool maybe i will try it
[15:52] <zsentinel> i should grab this one as adafruit is sold out and microcenter only has 2 left
[15:52] <doc-saintly> so whenever it boots it starts the autossh trying to forward a port to the other end
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[15:52] <ShorTie> for good soldering, you need to keep tip clean
[15:53] <ShorTie> like clean before each use
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[15:54] <fewhuoef> ShorTie: most soldering irons have a slot to keep a bit of foam
[15:54] <shiftplusone_> or a cookie
[15:54] <IT_Sean> cookie? Where!?
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[15:55] <ShorTie> wet spong/foam is ok, but iperfer a good old rag
[15:55] <IT_Sean> I use a sponge.
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[15:56] <ShorTie> hard to get the wholr thing when only touching hafe, imho
[15:56] <zsentinel> i have to find my low watt iron
[15:56] <zsentinel> i mostly have higher wattage irons for rc plane soldering
[15:57] <zsentinel> too bad they dont make an enclosure that handles this lcd display and button kit yet
[15:57] <zsentinel> that would be really cool
[15:58] <ShorTie> wattage is not as critical as size of tip
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[15:59] * shiftplusone_ wonders why people say wattage and amperage instead of power and current... and why they don't do it for other units like meterage for length or celciusage for temperature. O_o
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[16:02] <Matt> shiftplusone_: probably because they say voltage
[16:02] <Matt> cause it's less effort than "potential difference"
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[16:03] <Matt> IT_Sean: ITYM celciusage or fahrenheitage
[16:03] <shiftplusone_> voltage is different >=/
[16:04] <Matt> no it isn't :)
[16:04] <zsentinel> wikipedia says The term wattage is used colloquially to mean "electric power in watts."
[16:04] <Matt> zsentinel: much as "voltage" is used to mean "potential difference in volts"
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[16:04] <zsentinel> and its in the dictionary so IMO its proper usage
[16:04] <shiftplusone_> is it an American thing or do people say wattage everywhere?
[16:04] <shiftplusone_> I don't doubt that it's proper usage, it just seems a bit odd to me.
[16:05] <zsentinel> http://powerequipment.honda.com/generators/generator-wattage-estimation-guide
[16:05] <Matt> pretty sure I used to use it before moving to north america
[16:05] <zsentinel> seems japan does it too
[16:05] <zsentinel> according to this: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/wattage
[16:05] <zsentinel> its been used for a very long time (1903)
[16:05] <Matt> definitely used "amperage"
[16:05] <Matt> usually it's when taking about a rating tho
[16:06] <Matt> rather than a measurement
[16:06] <shiftplusone_> hm... well, I don't like it.
[16:06] <Matt> you talk about something's rated amperage, but you measure current
[16:06] <shiftplusone_> Yup, that sounds ok
[16:06] <zsentinel> blame edison
[16:06] <Matt> likewise wattage, come to think about it
[16:07] <zsentinel> IT_Sean: so with a little python you were able to also take input from the keypad on the display?
[16:07] <shiftplusone_> I suppose wattage is good for distinguishing between different units of measurement for power, but then they should have horseage as well
[16:08] <zsentinel> well ill take wattage over someone telling me what something takes in volts, which happens all the time
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[16:08] <zsentinel> id say 90% of the US population thinks voltage describes exactly how much power something takes
[16:08] <Matt> shiftplusone_: generally folk just use "horsepower" for that
[16:09] <shiftplusone_> Matt, exactly.... like power for normal power.... but not horseage for horsepower >_<
[16:09] <Matt> well no, they'd say "what horsepower is that engine?"
[16:09] <Matt> much as they'd say "what wattage is that lightbulb?"
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[16:09] <shiftplusone_> so... inconsistent.
[16:10] <Matt> not really
[16:10] <Matt> just "what watts is that lightbulb?" doesn't really sound right
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[16:11] <Matt> cause people couldn't possible say "how many watts does that lightbulb require?"
[16:11] <IT_Sean> zsentinel: there are example scripts that will show you how to read button state, set the backlight color, and output text to the display
[16:11] <Benguin> if as SD card can't even be DD'd to is it broken?
[16:11] <shiftplusone_> Matt, I agree that wattage as a rating sounds ok. But I think that would be "What's the rated power for that lightbulb?"
[16:11] <Matt> shiftplusone_: welcome to English
[16:11] <zsentinel> IT_Sean: it plugs directly into the pi right? that is what i can gather from the pictures
[16:11] <Benguin> I left DD trying to do it for like an hour, even though it does it in like 5 minutes on a working card
[16:11] <Benguin> and nada
[16:11] <IT_Sean> It plugs into the GPIO header, yeah.
[16:11] <Benguin> dd rather
[16:12] <gugahoi> so, has anyone successfully done this: http://thinkrpi.wordpress.com/2013/05/22/opencvpi-cam-step-2-compilation/
[16:12] <gugahoi> '?
[16:12] <shiftplusone_> Hm... now don't get me started on cottage then
[16:12] <zsentinel> IT_Sean: i havent been able to find a case that supports it yet though
[16:12] <Matt> Benguin: see if there's anything complaining in dmesg
[16:12] <shiftplusone_> anyway, I'll drop it >.>
[16:12] <IT_Sean> zsentinel: I don't think you will.
[16:12] <zsentinel> IT_Sean: i guess i can try to make one from kydex or something
[16:12] <Matt> usually if a system is having trouble writing to a device it'll be busy spamming dmesg with write errors
[16:12] <Benguin> will do that next time, I already turned the laptop off heheh whoops
[16:12] <Benguin> Thanks
[16:12] <Matt> also, you can try using dd_rescue instead of dd
[16:13] <Benguin> Actually i@m going to go order a cheap card reader jeez about time
[16:13] <Matt> the syntax is a little different, but it has a much nicer output
[16:13] <Benguin> will do that
[16:13] <Matt> it'll show you throughput, number of errors, etc
[16:13] <Benguin> does it give progress, too?
[16:13] <Matt> yup
[16:13] <Benguin> yay
[16:14] <Matt> although you can get progress information out of dd
[16:14] <Matt> you have to send it a USR1 signal
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[16:14] <Matt> killall -USR1 dd
[16:14] <Benguin> Interesting
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[16:14] <gugahoi> ny of you have the camera module?
[16:14] <tig|> yep
[16:14] <gugahoi> *any
[16:15] <gugahoi> tig|: used it with opencv?
[16:15] <tig|> gugahoi: not yet
[16:15] <gugahoi> oh damn
[16:16] <gugahoi> what fun things have u done with it?
[16:16] <tig|> well I put it on a high access platform at the weekend and had it streaming a HD video stream down to a second pi on the ground at the village show :)
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[16:17] <tig|> http://imgur.com/fAs1Mql
[16:17] <gugahoi> cool … :D
[16:18] <gugahoi> no image processing than, just streaming?
[16:18] <gugahoi> *then
[16:18] <gugahoi> also, what fps do u get?
[16:18] <tig|> gugahoi: was doing 720p with 25fps and low latency
[16:19] <gugahoi> oh thats pretty good
[16:19] <gugahoi> can u tell me which software u're using?
[16:19] <tig|> yep gstreamer and the standard camera app
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[16:20] <tig|> I am going to dump the command lines online when I get a minute, I think I am still using the same ones as I put on http://da.mned.co.uk but will double check as I was messing around with it for ages
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[16:22] <gugahoi> oh nice
[16:22] <zsentinel> what kind of compression do you get from it?
[16:22] <tig|> I was trying to get it to post to twitter at the same time but I was getting a memory leak somewhere in the gstreamer pipeline
[16:22] <zsentinel> i assume it has trouble encoding on the fly?
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[16:23] <tig|> zsentinel: encoding to what? I was doing this as a h264 stream
[16:23] <spobat> if i am on desktop, how do i switch to a complete cli?
[16:24] <tig|> zsentinel: I think encodinig and decoding can be offloaded to the videocore if they are the right codecs
[16:24] <zsentinel> i thought pi couldnt do hardware encoding yet
[16:24] <zsentinel> but that would be ideal, if i am going to use it as a dash cam i will need to be able to compress it quite a bit to store it all
[16:24] <Matt> spobat: you mean switch to a text console?
[16:25] <Matt> try ctrl-alt-F1, ctrl-alt-F2, etc
[16:25] <tig|> spobat: Alt and F1/F2 etc but Ctl Alt F7 to get back
[16:25] <spobat> a, working, thank you :)
[16:25] <Matt> and to get back into X, that's typically ctrl-alt-F7
[16:25] <spobat> okay
[16:25] <Matt> tig|: other way round
[16:25] <tig|> Matt: yeah
[16:26] <Matt> alt-fX works fine on the console, you need ctrl-alt-Fx from within X tho
[16:26] <zsentinel> tig|: do you just have the camera like velcroed to the enclosure/
[16:26] <zsentinel> or are you using an actual enclosure
[16:26] <tig|> zsentinel: nope it is bolted inside the faceplate of the pi
[16:26] <gugahoi> so, fellas with camera, if any of you could help me that would be great
[16:27] <gugahoi> trying to do this: http://thinkrpi.wordpress.com/2013/05/22/opencvpi-cam-step-2-compilation/
[16:27] <zsentinel> oh nice, so you just drilled a hole for it?
[16:27] <gugahoi> but getting errors on 3 and 4 - but 3 seems to be easy to fix
[16:27] <tig|> nope bought it like that, I posted you a pic of it earlier :)
[16:27] <zsentinel> you did? i only saw the pic of it being used at the festival
[16:27] <tig|> zsentinel: http://imgur.com/BnPaLN8 (if I have retyped that correctly)
[16:28] <zsentinel> ahh cool
[16:28] <zsentinel> have you used it as a dash cam?
[16:28] <tig|> nope, just cable tied onto that platform :)
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[16:30] <zsentinel> that is a really nice enclosure
[16:30] <zsentinel> i have to see if microcenter sells it
[16:31] <tig|> I got it from http://www,phenoptix.com but it is a variant of the Adafruit pi case
[16:31] <zsentinel> how were you getting audio?
[16:31] <tig|> I got it from http://www.phenoptix.com but it is a variant of the Adafruit pi case <- fixed url
[16:32] <tig|> zsentinel: didn't bother with audio as all you could hear up there was wind noise :)
[16:32] <zsentinel> ahh
[16:32] <zsentinel> but you have the ability?
[16:32] <tig|> if I wanted to do audio I think I would have to use a USB sound card
[16:32] <zsentinel> ah ok that is what i figured
[16:32] <zsentinel> my current plan is to use mine as a dash cam + media play for my car
[16:33] <zsentinel> i think it should be able to handle recording video and playing mp3's at the same time
[16:33] <ShorTie> i'd get a different storage device then the sdcard
[16:33] <tig|> zsentinel: yeah, you might want to drop the video resolution down if you are running into memory issues
[16:34] <zsentinel> i was going to use a 16gb usb thumb drive
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[16:34] <tig|> zsentinel: I was on about RAM
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[16:34] <zsentinel> i was responding to ShorTie :)
[16:35] <tig|> whoops :)
[16:35] <zsentinel> but yeah, i agree
[16:35] <zsentinel> i will need a way to control it still
[16:35] <zsentinel> probably just a simple lighttpd server with a php script
[16:36] <zsentinel> and then maybe a simple android app to make it a little cleaner and easier for using in the car
[16:37] <zsentinel> probably a mini wifi dongle would be easiest
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[17:42] <nmpro> good morning everyone!
[17:42] <IT_Sean> It's monday. What's good about it?
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[17:43] <johnc-> hmm, I wonder if I can get openal working on rpi, I assume there shouldn't be a problem
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[18:46] <Ben-> hi
[18:46] <Ben-> is anyone using transmission on the rpi?
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[18:51] <KiltedPi> I don't imagine a pi would be very quick with torrenting
[18:51] <KiltedPi> What you using transmission for Ben?
[18:51] <KiltedPi> Just downloading tunes/movies and stuff?
[18:51] <johnc-> on an external disk you might get ok I/O
[18:52] <Benguin> I used my pi for torrenting once
[18:52] <Benguin> My download speeds aren't f
[18:52] <Benguin> great anyway*
[18:52] <Ben-> tvshows
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[18:52] <Ben-> speed doesnt matter, it's overnight anyway
[18:52] <Ben-> however, I'm having problems
[18:52] <Ben-> it always crashes
[18:52] <ShiftPlusOne> Ben-, a lot of people are, many people here have. You're not looking for people, you're looking for an answer to something else, I am guessing, so it's best to ask the actual question you want to ask.
[18:52] <KiltedPi> Whats your error messages saying Ben
[18:53] <KiltedPi> Or what is the nature of the problem?
[18:53] <Ben-> dunno, where is it :o
[18:53] <Benguin> I kept getting I/O errors when I was using it
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[18:53] <Benguin> 's why I stopped
[18:53] <KiltedPi> You can't start up transmissions?
[18:53] <Ben-> I can start
[18:53] <Ben-> and some time later it crashes
[18:53] <KiltedPi> It closes down?
[18:53] <Ben-> at least I cant reach webserver anymore
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[18:54] <Ben-> im starting with terminal
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[18:54] <KiltedPi> and in terminal-
[18:54] <KiltedPi> Does it say anything at all?
[18:54] <KiltedPi> After you start up the program?
[18:55] <KiltedPi> Is it a large log?
[18:55] <KiltedPi> or is there nothing at all said-
[18:55] <KiltedPi> Is it the same torrent you are trying to d/l every time, or just random ones.
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[18:57] <ShiftPlusOne> If all else fails, you could use rtorrent, which is a very solid client.
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[18:59] <BurtyB> aria2 might be worth a try too
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[19:17] <Ben-> it mostly crashes when I'md ownloading stuff
[19:17] <Ben-> but sometimes it just works
[19:18] <Ben-> I dont get any error messages anywhere
[19:18] <Ben-> is there an official error log?
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[19:28] <f8l> Ben-: Enable core dumps. It may help.
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[19:47] <Ben-> BurtyB: can arya download automatically torrents from a directory?
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[19:54] <pksato> expanding memory of rpi http://www.instructables.com/id/DIY-RAM-Memory-Register-Style/
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[20:05] <ShorTie> what, no tubes ??
[20:05] * kephra wants core memory ... and a punch card reader for PI ;-)
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[20:07] <ShorTie> hey, those things made great christmas tree's and wreath's
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[20:16] <atouk> can't use yoru punch card reader without an IBM 29 to punch them http://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-29-Card-Punching-Machine-for-Parts-or-Repair-/370766426360?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item565366b0f8
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[20:19] <nmpro> atouk, I want one.. would look good in my living room.. lol .. :-)
[20:19] <atouk> actually used one in HS computer class
[20:19] <nmpro> hs? recently or back in the 60's? ;)
[20:20] <atouk> late 70s
[20:20] <ShorTie> i used 1 in college, good old fortran
[20:20] <nmpro> cool
[20:20] <atouk> j/job /for
[20:20] <atouk> -j
[20:21] <atouk> the cheerleaders used to come by once a week to collect the punched bits for confetti
[20:25] <nmpro> lol.. nice
[20:27] <atouk> i just remember the first two cards in the stack for a fortran job
[20:27] <atouk> that was a lifetime ago
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[20:29] <nmpro> atouk, so this brings back memories?? http://www.sciencebuzz.org/sites/default/files/images/800px-FortranCardPROJ039.agr.jpg .. lol
[20:29] <pksato> 360o rpi cam http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/4607
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[20:31] <atouk> those things did make a unique thunk on a keypress
[20:32] <nmpro> I bet
[20:33] <atouk> designed in a day when stuff was overengineered by 300%. tanks with a keyboard
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[20:43] <nmpro> true...
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[21:17] <pitillo> hello, does someone know if current firmware is working right with kernel 3.6.11? (I'm getting some problems with vcgencmd and VCHI initialization failed)
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[21:52] <anthroprose> anyone ever mess with rpi-rgb-led-matrix and the adafruit led matrixs? I'm kinda curious about running this on a 16x32 instead of a 32x32
[21:53] <rigid> anthroprose: i mess a lot with rpi and LED matrices, but didn't use adafruits stuff
[21:54] <rigid> anthroprose: you might be interested in trying http://niftyled.de
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[21:57] <anthroprose> rigid: I'll check that out... I've got this C++ project halfway working, but it was tailored to the 32x32 and is doing funky geometry to do some stuff, I'm just trying to scroll ppms at the moment
[22:02] <rigid> anthroprose: hm... niftyled is all C...
[22:03] <anthroprose> yeah im trying to see if I can cram the gpio code from this one into a plugin, that would be nice
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[22:28] <funkster> hey so im looking to run RPi and a led light strip off a rechargeable battery for a project. any battery size under the size of a can of soda i would say. do you guys suggest anything i can look at?
[22:31] <gvo> funkster: How long do you need it to run and how much power will it consume?
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[22:33] <tig|> funkster: I ran a pi with the csi cam module on it and wifi for about 4 hours at the weekend and didn't go from high to med on my usb battery pack, it was about 25 quid of amazon with a 12000mah battery@3.7V the key thing it to make sure it will give out at least 700/800mah at 5V so anything that will give you 1A is fine
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[22:33] <funkster> gvo: i have the led strip on order, so i cant test the overall power consumed. but it will be RPI and a 3 foot led strip. i would say only a few hours, its for an led lit table so i will only put it on for a little to display then turn off.
[22:34] <tig|> funkster: how is the led strip powered
[22:34] <gvo> funkster I think tig has the right idea
[22:34] <funkster> tig: hmmm.. niice okay let me look into that!
[22:34] <funkster> tig: id have to power the led strip from the battery as well. so it would power led strip AND RPi
[22:34] <tig|> ah
[22:34] <gvo> funkster where are you?
[22:35] <funkster> united states.
[22:35] <plugwash> without knowing how much power the LED strip needs we really can't give any meaningful answer as to what size of battery and what sort of power management electronics you will need
[22:35] <tig|> funkster: in that case tbh the led strip power is probably more of an issue than the pi :)
[22:35] <funkster> 1 meter strips are fairly popular, any way we can lookup the power consumption?
[22:35] <gvo> OK sparkfun has a few batteries for powering/charging cell phones that would work.
[22:35] <funkster> tig: yeah.. lol!
[22:36] <tig|> well leds are not going to be mains power
[22:36] <tig|> and are generally pretty low power
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[22:38] <tig|> so depending on the duration required you can probably cobble something together using off the shelf usb battery packs, but please sort the voltage and other power requirements without messing around with the battery packs themselves as lithium batteries can go bang if you break the protection on the cells
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[22:40] <tig|> funkster: if they are just an LED string of single LEDs the power requirements should not be that much
[22:40] <gvo> funkster: here's an example: It has usb connector which makes it real easy to interface to a RPi https://www.sparkfun.com/products/11359
[22:41] <funkster> tig|: yeah!
[22:41] <funkster> gvo: yeah that would be perfect
[22:41] <rigid> anthroprose: for scrolling you need to have a single image sequence or a gif animation or something right now (if you don't want to code your own application) but getting a plugin together should be only a matter of minutes
[22:41] <gvo> They make one a bit smaller too.
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[22:43] <tig|> gvo: that is the right sort of thing but quite underpowered for the price but would be nice and small
[22:43] <tig|> 2000mah is what you get in a new smartphone to put it in perspective
[22:43] <funkster> what would you guys estimate the run time of RPi and 1M led strip with that battery? any rough estimate?
[22:44] <rigid> funkster: really hard to say without knowing what the strip draws and what you run on the pi
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[22:44] <rigid> how much LEDs/m ?
[22:44] <chithead> if you know the ampere draw, you can easily compute the runtime
[22:45] <rigid> i'd estimate 30mA per LED
[22:45] <funkster> 30 leds per 1M strip - https://www.sparkfun.com/products/10261
[22:45] <pksato> funkster: 7.2W per metre.
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[22:47] <rigid> ah, 20mA
[22:47] <pksato> 10 AA 2200mA battery can power 1m strip for more that four hours.
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[22:49] <pksato> for 12V strip
[22:49] <funkster> awesome thats good run time for me.
[22:50] <rigid> beware that the real time is always lower than the calculated time
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[22:50] <funkster> loll yeah i fugured that
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[23:16] <Pinhole> We are destroying our sd cards in under 90 days. All we are doing is displaying a webpage with chromium that refreshes every 10 minutes. Any advice?
[23:17] <tig|> Pinhole: yep, move the webpages to RAM to reduce SD wear
[23:18] <tig|> that way every time they are calling them they are not making a SD card call
[23:18] <tig|> how big are the pages?
[23:18] <Pinhole> We told chromium to not cache. It's a few hundred k.
[23:19] <ShorTie> move it off to a usb drive
[23:19] <tig|> Pinhole: set up a script to copy the stuff to a folder under /run/shm/ and then point apache at that job done :)
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[23:19] <Pinhole> apache is not on the pi.
[23:19] <tig|> the /run/shm is already running from ram
[23:20] <tig|> oh
[23:20] <tig|> Pinhole: apologies misunderstood
[23:20] <tig|> Pinhole: setup /tmp in ram and the home directory of the user
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[23:22] <tig|> I don't think (and willing to be corrected) that the current raspbian has it's /tmp in ram so that could be the issue although it does sound like an excessive failure rate
[23:22] <Pinhole> pidora has /tmp as tmpfs
[23:23] <tig|> so more /tmp to ram and move the home dir if possible to be on the safe side as it doesn't sound that you require persistant states, I take it that this is a kiosk type application
[23:23] <Pinhole> pidora already has noatime
[23:24] <tig|> Pinhole: hmm in that case use lsof to see what is calling your sd card all the time
[23:24] <Pinhole> It's actually a tv guide display for a really small cable company
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[23:24] <tig|> Pinhole: also try a different make of card
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[23:25] <pksato> Pinhole: mount rootfs a read only.
[23:25] <Pinhole> We started with maxwell cards and then sandisk. I think I missing something that is writing.
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[23:26] <pksato> or, is a some power issue.
[23:26] <rigid> Pinhole: syslog?
[23:26] <Pinhole> We tried -o remount ro, but then x doesn't start. We might have to figure out why.
[23:27] <Pinhole> We don't sit on the box when it fails and it won't read after it fails.
[23:27] <tig|> rigid: good idea, something is causing large amount of IO and logs could be the culprit
[23:27] <rigid> X probably fails because it can't write xauth stuff to /tmp
[23:28] <Pinhole> /tmp is tmpfs. It's ram, so it is writable.
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[23:28] <rigid> ah, you're not using raspbian...
[23:28] <tig|> what about /var/spool and /var/run
[23:29] <Pinhole> nothing in messages after boot finishes.
[23:29] <tig|> (er not sure if they are there in fedora)
[23:29] <rigid> just mount the card on a pc and "find" the latest atime files
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[23:30] <pksato> Pinhole: sd card is permanently damaged?
[23:30] <Pinhole> dbus has files open in /var/run. I wonder if it is the problem.
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[23:30] <Pinhole> sd card won't read any more. You can read the first part, but then if can't finish.
[23:31] <Pinhole> The fs can't be mounted.
[23:31] <pksato> run badblocks or similar tools to check.
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[23:33] <Pinhole> I gather from the manpage that it finds bad blocks. But what do you do once you find them?
[23:33] <pksato> put sd on electrinc wast trash can.
[23:34] <ShorTie> have you tried reimaging the card ??
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[23:35] <Pinhole> We can't write much to it. Same problem.
[23:36] <Pinhole> We've gone through 3 cards so far.
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[23:36] <pksato> use other linux distro.
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