#raspberrypi IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2013-08-30

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[0:19] <nmpro> *yawn*
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[0:27] <nmpro> good night everyone .. have a great memorial day weekend for those in the states.. :)
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[1:53] <SpeedEvil> http://www.ti.com/lit/ds/symlink/drv8711.pdf oooh - microstepper driver
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[2:04] <quackgyver> Anyone know if it's possible to VNC into a rPi via USB?
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[2:05] <ShorTie> sure, with a nic adapter
[2:06] <quackgyver> Why do you need an adapter? Can't you convert from VNC into USB signal with software?
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[2:06] <Shakaz> New Link 4 Port USB Hub with 5V 2A Mains Adaptor > What is this used for, it's from Mod My Pi.
[2:06] <Shakaz> do you need to power it?
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[2:08] <troulouliou_dev> quackgyver, you can use usbip
[2:08] <troulouliou_dev> witha cable
[2:08] <troulouliou_dev> connect it to usbip server
[2:08] <quackgyver> troulouliou_dev: Amazing, exactly what I needed. :-)
[2:08] <troulouliou_dev> and connect vnc thorugh it
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[2:08] <quackgyver> Yep
[2:09] <quackgyver> Thanks a lot mate. :-)
[2:09] <troulouliou_dev> quackgyver, not tested on the pi , let me check if the package is available
[2:09] <pksato> usb to usb need a proper cable.
[2:09] <troulouliou_dev> quackgyver, someting like this : http://www.howtoforge.com/how-to-modify-your-gnu-linux-box-to-serve-as-a-usb-over-ip-server
[2:09] <quackgyver> Well, I'm going to use a proper cable.
[2:09] <quackgyver> What I want is to VNC into- AND power my rPi with a single cable
[2:09] <troulouliou_dev> pksato, sure about it master ?
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[2:10] <quackgyver> so I can use it as a remote desktop client among other things
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[2:12] <troulouliou_dev> quackgyver, sorry the link is the opposite ;)
[2:12] <quackgyver> Ah, heh.
[2:12] <quackgyver> I'm beginning to realize that now.
[2:12] <pksato> uspip is tool to emulate a usb device, and connect it to real device over network,
[2:12] <quackgyver> Yeah, I see. That's actually also very useful, but not for this project. :-)
[2:12] <ShorTie> apt-cache says it's there
[2:13] <troulouliou_dev> quackgyver, the opposite is usbnet
[2:13] <pksato> quackgyver: what is the problem with ethternet connection?
[2:14] <quackgyver> Allow me to fill you in. I'm trying to help a friend get better access to her cloud data, so we're trying to get her a rPi that she can bring with her in her handbag and hook up to any computer via USB for VNCing into the rPi
[2:14] <quackgyver> So it would be ideal if this could be achiever with merely one cable.
[2:14] <quackgyver> Whether it's USB or ethernet doesn't matter, but USB is preferred.
[2:14] <quackgyver> Since the ethernet cable may already be used.
[2:15] <quackgyver> achieved*
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[2:15] <ShorTie> hook up to any computer via USB, that gonna be hard without software install
[2:16] <pksato> and adm level access
[2:16] <quackgyver> Nah, she'd either have a USB dongle with client machine software
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[2:16] <quackgyver> or we'd get a dongle/split adapter
[2:17] <quackgyver> pksato: adm level access for what?
[2:18] <Shakaz> I have a 4 port USB hub. how do i power it if it requires more power
[2:18] <troulouliou_dev> pksato, quackgyver this shold work : http://www.linux-usb.org/usbnet/
[2:18] <Shakaz> it didn't come with a 'charger'
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[2:18] <quackgyver> troulouliou_dev: Sorry, forgot to reply to your comment.
[2:18] <quackgyver> Thanks a lot for your help. :-)
[2:18] <quackgyver> Will def. check that out
[2:18] <quackgyver> I'm gonna build her something real sleek. Hopefully I can get it done.
[2:19] <pksato> troulouliou_dev: need a cable.
[2:19] <quackgyver> Thanks all. :-)
[2:19] <troulouliou_dev> quackgyver, post it somewhere i never found time to do it but wanted too a long time ago :)
[2:19] <troulouliou_dev> pksato, yes you are right
[2:19] <quackgyver> troulouliou_dev: I have a *lot* of really cool products in development. I'm going to post about all of it. Will def. post this too. :-)
[2:19] <quackgyver> Thanks a lot mate.
[2:20] <troulouliou_dev> pksato, looks even more like a device then a cable btw :)
[2:21] <pksato> in theory, with model A, is possible to use RPi a usb device, insted a usb host. But, need some software to emulate "the device".
[2:22] <Shakaz> I have a 4 port USB hub. how do i power it if it requires more power?
[2:23] <quackgyver> Shakaz: Is there a socket for a power adapter?
[2:23] <sney> either give the rpi's input more power (within reason) or use a powered hub
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[2:23] <Shakaz> there is alittle socket but it's not one i recognise, it didn't come with a charger or anything
[2:23] <sney> I think the pi can take up to a 2A psu, but I don't have a good source on that
[2:23] <quackgyver> If not, it may require a source that outputs above average power
[2:23] <quackgyver> Shakaz: Have you tried USB3?
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[2:24] <quackgyver> Shakaz: This may help
[2:24] <quackgyver> http://event.asus.com/mb/2010/ai_charger/
[2:24] <quackgyver> I use this to charge my iOS devices on Windows pCs
[2:24] <quackgyver> PCs*
[2:24] <quackgyver> but do it at your own risk.
[2:25] <RavenII> Have you guys seen the Yahoo weather app for android/ios?
[2:25] <quackgyver> RavenII: do people even check the weather? ;)
[2:25] <mercan01> I've heard good things about Yahoo weather.
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[2:25] <Shakaz> I have this USB hub
[2:25] <Shakaz> http://www.amazon.co.uk/Fujifilm-4-Port-High-Speed-USB/dp/B007AUESRY
[2:25] <RavenII> Haha, I'm trying to figure out what someone would use to create that sort of a UI
[2:26] <mercan01> Although I'm more of a forecast.io fan
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[2:35] <quackgyver> Shakaz: Did you buy it second hand?
[2:35] <quackgyver> If so, it's no wonder you didn't get the power cable.
[2:35] <quackgyver> My guess is that it's either powered through a power adapter, or a mini- or micro USB cable.
[2:36] <quackgyver> What does the socket look like?
[2:36] <quackgyver> Or it's merely powered via USB.
[2:37] <Shakaz> quackgyver, idk, it's like a circular socket but i might get a new one anyway
[2:37] <quackgyver> Can you take a pic?
[2:37] <Shakaz> it's ok but another question
[2:37] <Shakaz> if i was to buy a powered usb hub,what would be the standard power cable to 'charge' it
[2:37] <quackgyver> There is no standard way. Some hubs are powered via USB
[2:37] <quackgyver> others via power cables
[2:38] <Shakaz> what power cable would i need?
[2:38] <quackgyver> I think it depends on how many ports there are, whether they're USB 1, 2 and 3 etc.
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[2:38] <Shakaz> http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61FArb8R8FL._SL1500_.jpg it looks like this ending quackgyver
[2:38] <ozzzy> use the adapter that comes with the hub
[2:38] <Shakaz> no wait nvm ignore that image quackgyver
[2:38] <Shakaz> ozzzy what if i lose that adapter
[2:39] <quackgyver> ozzzy: There was none
[2:39] <quackgyver> Shakaz: That pic is wrong?
[2:39] <Shakaz> yes
[2:39] <ozzzy> so... most are 5.5x2.1 DC power plugs centre positive
[2:39] <ozzzy> unless they're 'mini' hubs... then they could use smaller dc power plugs
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[2:40] <Vostok> almost all powered usb hubs i've ever seen use a way smaller than 5.5mm dc connector
[2:40] <Vostok> something like the size of the older nokia charger
[2:41] <quackgyver> Shakaz: Can you take a picture of your socket please?
[2:41] <quackgyver> Just use your cellphone or camera, or webcam if you have one.
[2:41] <ozzzy> Vostok: all of the hubs I've bought use 5.5x2.1 plugs
[2:41] <Vostok> that's strange.
[2:41] <ozzzy> some 5v, some 9v and some 12v
[2:41] <ozzzy> but all 5.5x2.1
[2:41] <Vostok> doing a search of usb hubs in, e.g., dx.com results almost entirely in way smaller power connectors
[2:42] <Vostok> i've only experience with 5 volt ones
[2:42] <ozzzy> Shakaz: pick up a universal wall-wart with several plugs (I bought one today for $14)... then you're covered
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[2:43] <ozzzy> http://goo.gl/adyRXd <--- something like that
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[6:13] <nodebit> might be a comon question, where can i go to get help making the sound in retorpie better?
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[8:01] <italic> is there a way to send keyboard/mouse from my laptop over wifi to the desktop running on the pi?
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[8:03] <Vibe> vnc
[8:03] <ShiftPlusOne> italic, synergy
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[8:03] <ShiftPlusOne> If you can see what's going on on the actual display, you really don't need vnc
[8:04] <italic> was trying to avoid vnc
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[8:04] <ShiftPlusOne> Have I mentioned synergy yet? http://synergy-foss.org/
[8:04] <italic> ShiftPlusOne: oh thanks, i thought that was a snarky remark :P
[8:05] <ShiftPlusOne> D=
[8:05] <ShiftPlusOne> Snarky? Me?
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[8:15] <tig|> morning all
[8:16] <ShiftPlusOne> 'morning sir
[8:16] <tig|> it is too early to be in the office :(
[8:16] <tig|> morning ShiftPlusOne
[8:18] <ShiftPlusOne> What are you doing at the office then?
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[8:18] <tig|> had to run someone to the train station so thought I may as well come in and get stuff done before people get in :)
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[8:19] <ShiftPlusOne> Is it a type of workplace where you can leave early without people grumbling?
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[8:20] <tig|> it will be today and I don't care about the grumbling :)
[8:20] <ShiftPlusOne> excellent
[8:21] <tig|> I just hope I can pick up the same person from the train station reasonably early otherwise I will probably be hanging around here later
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[8:22] <ShiftPlusOne> ah
[8:22] <tig|> then pub o'clock!
[8:23] <ShiftPlusOne> sounds like a plan =D
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[9:53] <bts__> hello
[9:53] <tig|> Good morning bts__
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[9:56] <bts__> I've configured gpio pin 10 as an input, set pull down, set rising edge detect and when I connect it to 3.3V pin I notice usually two rising edges - how to explain that?
[9:56] <ShiftPlusOne> using a switch?
[9:56] <bts__> no, putting wire in breadboard
[9:57] <ShiftPlusOne> some bounce maybe
[9:57] <ShiftPlusOne> not sure if you get that sort of effect when putting a wire in the breadboard though
[9:58] <ShorTie> setting to failing edge, if you can, i think helps take some bouce out
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[9:59] <ShiftPlusOne> or filtering it out with a capacitor or in software
[9:59] <ShorTie> true true
[10:01] <bts__> what do you mean by using capacitor? sorry, I'm quite a newbie in electronics
[10:01] <ShiftPlusOne> add a low pass filter, essentially.
[10:02] <ShiftPlusOne> from google http://web.engr.oregonstate.edu/~traylor/ece473/lectures/debounce.pdf
[10:03] <ShiftPlusOne> This looks like a much better resource http://www.eng.utah.edu/~cs5780/debouncing.pdf
[10:03] <ShiftPlusOne> page 12
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[10:06] <bts__> very useful links, thanks :)
[10:06] <ShiftPlusOne> np, feel free to ask if you have any questions, that's what the channel is here for.
[10:09] <ShiftPlusOne> I think the 'correct' way to do it is to figure out how fast you can actually press the button and use that to get the rc filter parameters, then hook it up to schmitt trigger and only then to the pin, but that feels over-engineered to me.
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[10:21] <SpeedEvil> Or don't do that.
[10:22] <SpeedEvil> And simply don't act on the button until it's not changed state in - say - 200ms
[10:22] <SpeedEvil> This does of course require fast polling and a timer.
[10:23] <gordonDrogon> morning...
[10:23] <ShiftPlusOne> 'morning
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[10:24] <SpeedEvil> MORNING.
[10:24] <gordonDrogon> you will get lots of bounce just plugging a wire into a breadboard.... boing boing boing ...
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[10:25] <rendar> apparently, the arm processor of the raspberry is little endian, is like that on all raspberries?
[10:26] <ShiftPlusOne> rendar, yup
[10:26] <rendar> i see
[10:26] <SpeedEvil> The 'sports' models are mid-endian.
[10:26] <ShiftPlusOne> though I beleive the actual core is bi-endian, but I am not sure if you can use it in big endian mode.... I don't know what I am talking about though.
[10:26] <rendar> somewhere i read that arm processors are both big and little endian, so i guess there is a way to turn it big endian, but i have to recomile the kernel i guess?
[10:26] <rendar> SpeedEvil, 'sports' models?
[10:27] <rendar> SpeedEvil, what is middle endian?
[10:27] <ShiftPlusOne> rendar, I think you were punned at
[10:27] <rendar> hmm, punned? :)
[10:28] <SpeedEvil> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mid-engine_design
[10:29] <tig|> it was just a little bit of armless pun :)
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[10:30] <rendar> eheh
[10:31] <rendar> unbeliveable, is that possible in freenode there isn't a serious channel to speak about linux programming? (sorry for OT!)
[10:32] <SpeedEvil> There are in principle language channels - ##c is dysfunctional though
[10:32] <SpeedEvil> I dunno about others.
[10:32] <j4jackj> Anyone here ever used a Raspberry Pi on dialup? :D
[10:32] <SpeedEvil> j4jackj: shouldn't be a problem in principle - USB serial port - modem - ppp
[10:33] <ShiftPlusOne> btw, what's a good chip for bi-directional 3.3v <>TTL logic conversion with at least 8bits. I am finding a little too much to be able to narrow it down. >.>
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[10:33] <j4jackj> SpeedEvil: have. you ever made a fidonet node with a raspberry pi :D
[10:33] <SpeedEvil> no.
[10:33] <SpeedEvil> ShiftPlusOne: what're you tryuing to connect
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[10:35] <Psil0Cybin> hey guys whats the right way of turning off the pi
[10:35] <Psil0Cybin> sudo shutdown -h now?
[10:35] <SpeedEvil> yes
[10:35] <Psil0Cybin> {"best:way")
[10:35] <SpeedEvil> or similar
[10:35] <Psil0Cybin> okay thanks
[10:35] <ShiftPlusOne> SpeedEvil, In this case, a C64 cartridge. I am aware that it probably does not need to be bidirectional, but I would like the flexibility of being able to get a bunch of these chips and use them for other things as well.
[10:35] <SpeedEvil> there isn't a way to power it off 'properly'
[10:36] <SpeedEvil> ah
[10:36] <Psil0Cybin> well the best way to avoid corrupton of sd card
[10:36] <SpeedEvil> shutdown -h - leave it a few seconds after last disc access in thehopes that the SD has finished internal managment
[10:36] <SpeedEvil> then power off
[10:37] <Psil0Cybin> yup okay
[10:37] <Psil0Cybin> thanks
[10:39] <ShiftPlusOne> Ah, TI has a pretty good voltage translator selection guide.
[10:40] <ShorTie> shutdown now -h
[10:40] <Jck_True> Psil0Cybin: sudo halt - is shorter :)
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[10:46] <gordonDrogon> sudo halt is easier to type
[10:47] <gordonDrogon> sync then pull the power cord is fast, but not guaranteed ...
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[10:47] <gordonDrogon> if you look at the LEDs - the Green ACT/OK LED flashes 10 times once it's halted, so once that starts to flash then you can safely power down.
[10:47] <tig|> or invoke the Elephants :)
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[10:54] <ShiftPlusOne> Hm, didn't know about the LED flashing 10 times O_o
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[10:56] <rymate1234> gordonDrogon: I just pull the power
[10:56] <rymate1234> I have a backup of the SD card so if it does corrupt i can just reimage it
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[10:57] <gordonDrogon> rymate1234, you'll get away with that 9 times out of 10... but one time...
[10:58] <rymate1234> I only use it as a print server
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[11:00] <MordFustang> Can anyone tell me why crontab is not working i followed this tutorial https://wiki.umms.med.umich.edu/display/ET/9.+providing+RPi+sync+with+Dropbox+Server
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[11:26] <Kane> o/
[11:28] <Psil0Cybin> hey guys
[11:28] <Psil0Cybin> wtf is this crap im looking at my nginx logs
[11:28] <Psil0Cybin> and i see this
[11:28] <Psil0Cybin> 85.190.0.3 - - [30/Aug/2013:08:35:11 +0000] "GET http://vlad-tepes.bofh.it/freenode-proxy-checker.txt HTTP/1.0" 20$
[11:28] <Psil0Cybin> 85.190.0.3 - - [30/Aug/2013:08:35:11 +0000] "CONNECT 213.92.8.7:31204 HTTP/1.0" 400 172 "-" "-"
[11:28] <Psil0Cybin> 85.190.0.3 - - [30/Aug/2013:08:35:11 +0000] "CONNECT 213.92.8.7:31204 HTTP/1.0" 400 172 "-" "-"
[11:28] <Psil0Cybin> is someone trying to port scan me?
[11:28] <ShorTie> always
[11:29] <ShiftPlusOne> Make visual basic gui to track their IP D=
[11:29] <Draylor> isnt hte "freenode proxy checker " part of that a subtle hint? heh
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[11:29] <CDR`> ..considering your on the freenode irc network, and its common for networks to scan their users :-\
[11:30] <Psil0Cybin> but why would this show up in my nginx logs
[11:30] <Psil0Cybin> oh so your saying its this irc server?
[11:30] <bts__> is input hysteresis enabled by default? circuit with capacitor helped, but probably due to the low capacity it's still not perfect
[11:31] <tig|> Psil0Cybin: http://freenode.net/policy.shtml
[11:32] <Psil0Cybin> tig|: Like many interactive networks, we've had our share of problems with denial-of-service attacks. As a result, we've had to develop a variety of measures to reduce the impact of such attacks. freenode may block access to users whose IRC clients run on hosts with open proxies,
[11:32] <Psil0Cybin> sums up my question
[11:32] <Psil0Cybin> just why did it show up in my nginx logs? its checking to see if nginx is an open proxy
[11:32] <Psil0Cybin> ?\
[11:32] <tig|> yeah probably
[11:32] <gordonDrogon> Psil0Cybin, family friendly channel - even abreviations, *'s etc. are not allowed here.
[11:34] <Psil0Cybin> sorry gordonDrogon
[11:35] <Psil0Cybin> not tig| would it still make sense if im on IRC on a different computer (thus different interal ip)
[11:35] <Psil0Cybin> the logs are on the pi but im connected here via my laptop
[11:35] <Psil0Cybin> i guess they are just port scanning my external ip
[11:35] <tig|> Psil0Cybin: yep as that is where they will see the connection coming from
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[11:37] <Psil0Cybin> hey guys last question tig| if i delete access.log from the nginx folder via sudo rm
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[11:37] <Psil0Cybin> would it reappear when i restart my server or as infomation gets created
[11:37] <gordonDrogon> that's not a port scan, it's a direct connection to your local web server.
[11:38] <gordonDrogon> and its to be expected when using freenode.
[11:38] <gordonDrogon> however - really - if youre running a web server connected to the internet you will get various random attacks all the time. it's to be expected and "the way it is".
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[11:39] <ShiftPlusOne> fail2ban \O/
[11:39] <tig|> if you are running ssh externally I would install fail2ban too
[11:39] <tig|> ShiftPlusOne: ^5
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[11:40] <gordonDrogon> fail2ban is a wrapper that gives you some security AFTER the "attack" has started. It won't/can't differentiate between a one-off probe and a valid request - unless you've given it a huge database of invalid/hack probes, etc.
[11:41] <gordonDrogon> it's also no substitute for good security.
[11:41] <tig|> gordonDrogon: no, but it is a helpful tool
[11:41] <ShiftPlusOne> help with the bots though
[11:42] <tig|> gordonDrogon: it also helps you keep your logs tidier which means it is easier to spot nefarious connections instead of pages and pages of automated attacks that will never get anywhere anyway
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[11:49] <Psil0Cybin> tig|: i run ssh externally but i use ssh keys
[11:49] <Psil0Cybin> think im safe :P
[11:49] <Psil0Cybin> i turned off passwords so i can only connect through MY LAPTOP
[11:49] <Psil0Cybin> using my keys i think its the only safe method
[11:49] <Psil0Cybin> right?
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[11:50] <ShiftPlusOne> Well, simply changing the port got rid of 100% of the ssh attacks on my server, but yeah, I also don't permit password or root logins.
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[11:51] <Psil0Cybin> ShiftPlusOne: think im fine if i use default port but with only ssh keys enabled?
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[11:51] <Psil0Cybin> someone said i should be safe no matter what because of the keys
[11:51] <snoshers> Does anyone have any experience with the USB ir toy?
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[11:51] <ShiftPlusOne> I don't know about what's secure... I assume nothing is secure, but some things make it less unsecure.
[11:52] <jerng> why should password logins be insecure (despite choosing weak(tm) passwords)?
[11:52] <Psil0Cybin> we;ll unless you log out people after three failed attempts
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[11:52] <Psil0Cybin> people can brute force
[11:52] <Psil0Cybin> anything
[11:52] <Psil0Cybin> unless you have a completely unique password thats like 25 characters.
[11:53] <Psil0Cybin> ShiftPlusOne: well what do you recommend, do you think if i use ssh keys to connect and passwords / root is disabled that i should be safe?
[11:53] <Psil0Cybin> atm
[11:53] <chris_99> good luck bruteforcing ssh keypairs
[11:53] <Psil0Cybin> well thats what i mean
[11:53] <Psil0Cybin> im talking about brute forcing passwords
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[11:53] <chris_99> kk
[11:53] <Psil0Cybin> i use key pairs because i dont want to be brute froced.
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[11:54] <ShiftPlusOne> Psil0Cybin, I think it's fine. Changing the port helps keep the logs clean though, as mentioned earlier.
[11:54] <chris_99> same here Psil0Cybin, i got fed up with dictionary attacks too
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[11:54] <Psil0Cybin> chris_99: lol, someone should pay me to put together word lists ;)
[11:55] <chris_99> they really clutter up your log files
[11:55] <chris_99> it's annoying heh
[11:55] <Psil0Cybin> bastards.
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[11:56] <ShiftPlusOne> Psil0Cybin, I have the logs sent to me every day and I glance over them to see what's going on. If I didn't have fail2ban and a few other things to keep the scanners away, they would be filled with mostly useless information. Now I only get a few lines, so I can tell if something's wrong.
[11:56] <Psil0Cybin> sorry forgot that its not just for mature audiences. gordonDrogon
[11:56] <Psil0Cybin> never again
[11:56] <Psil0Cybin> ShiftPlusOne: it really late here so i dont have time to figure that out tonight, but what do you use to do that fail2ban?
[11:57] <Psil0Cybin> to email you logs and simplify the info?
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[11:57] <ShiftPlusOne> I don't even remember >_< logrotate probably, but I'll check
[11:57] <jerng> 8+ character passwords (strong(tm), i.e.small/capital,numbers,symbols) should be safe enough(tm) for general use, aren't they?
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[11:57] <jerng> (that doensn't mean my password is 8 chars long ;)
[11:58] <Psil0Cybin> jerng: its only a matter of time
[11:58] <Psil0Cybin> thats why i do not like passwords.
[11:58] <jerng> sure.
[11:58] <ShiftPlusOne> Psil0Cybin, logwatch
[11:58] <Psil0Cybin> okay thanks im going to write it down so i can figure this all out tomorrow ;) and be safe
[11:58] <Psil0Cybin> gotta wrap my tool before i fool.
[11:58] <Psil0Cybin> around with nginx that is
[11:59] <ShiftPlusOne> What was that about 'never' again' and not just mature audiences? >_<
[11:59] <jerng> does openssh support limited login attempts per time by defaultr?
[11:59] <gordonDrogon> https://xkcd.com/936/
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[11:59] <gordonDrogon> for password strengths.
[11:59] <Psil0Cybin> ShiftPlusOne:
[11:59] <Psil0Cybin> thought it could be a grey zone
[12:00] * gordonDrogon sighs.
[12:00] <Psil0Cybin> jerng: i do not think so
[12:00] <Psil0Cybin> jerng: its a simple change in the config file just like using key pairs.
[12:00] <jerng> gordonDrogon: true, true. ;)
[12:02] <Psil0Cybin> meh still dont like passwords
[12:02] <Psil0Cybin> i have no faith
[12:02] <Psil0Cybin> i use key pairs to even get into my house ;) with SSH
[12:02] <Psil0Cybin> lol jks
[12:02] <Psil0Cybin> but that would make me sneaky like a fox.
[12:02] <mpmc> Psil0Cybin: I'd like to see that in action.
[12:03] <Psil0Cybin> Well my raspberry pi is a security system :P and you can use your phone to connect via SSH
[12:03] <Psil0Cybin> :O
[12:03] <Psil0Cybin> connect it to the door locks lmao
[12:04] <Psil0Cybin> allright guys i gotta go to sleep its 6 am OMG :O! and i have to change my breaks today at 930 am
[12:04] <Psil0Cybin> okay
[12:04] <Psil0Cybin> il be back tomorrow thanks everyone gordonDrogon for the kick, jerng , ShiftPlusOne
[12:04] <ShiftPlusOne> take care
[12:04] * ShiftPlusOne is tempted to kick Psil0Cybin >.>
[12:06] * Psil0Cybin sets +sexy Psil0Cybin
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[12:11] <Draylor> +diddy might be more accurate :)
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[12:52] <pagios> hi all!
[12:52] <pagios> how can i authenticate my RPI vs a Hotspot? (user/pass based on a webbrowser)
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[12:57] <pagios> how to authenticate a raspberry on a hotspot
[12:58] <Davespice> hi pagios
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[12:59] <pagios> hi Davespice
[12:59] <Davespice> there is a Pi desktop with a WiFi config icon
[12:59] <Davespice> http://thepihut.com/pages/how-to-setup-wifi-on-your-raspberry-pi-raspbian
[12:59] <Davespice> obviously you require a USB wifi dongle
[12:59] <ShiftPlusOne> Davespice, "(user/pass based on a webbrowser)"
[12:59] <Davespice> the Pi on its own does not have wifi
[13:00] <ShiftPlusOne> pagios, could you clarify your question?
[13:00] <Davespice> oh I see, is it one of those free ones?
[13:01] <Davespice> I've done that before, you need to use the wifi config to select the hotspot, then you open Midoria and that should take you to the browser sign in for the hotpot
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[13:01] <Davespice> enter the login, keep Midori open, then you should be able to browse
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[13:12] <pagios> Davespice: idea is to automate all this
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[13:12] <pagios> Rpi turns on , connects to wifi and authenticates alone
[13:13] <ShiftPlusOne> you can use curl to send the required form data
[13:13] <Davespice> and this is one of the hotspots that requires you to sign in via a browser before access is granted? like a BT free one?
[13:13] <pagios> Davespice: correct
[13:13] <ShiftPlusOne> Can you send the source code of the login form?
[13:13] <pagios> mikrotik based
[13:14] <Davespice> I'm not sure how to automate it but it sounds like ShiftPlusOne may know a way
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[13:25] <ShiftPlusOne> O_o I guess he lost interest
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[13:26] <pagios> ShiftPlusOne: problem being each hotspot system would send a different authentication request
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[13:26] <pagios> some CHAP some PAP some MSCAP u namei t
[13:28] <ShiftPlusOne> that sort of thing is handled by wpa_supplicant though, isn't it? so what does the web login have to do with it?
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[13:36] <gordonDrogon> the hotspots I've used & run don't use chap/pap but use some web based login+password thingy.
[13:36] <gordonDrogon> there is some sort of standard for this which I've forgotten - I never found one that uses it though.
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[13:40] <MrVector> Good day folks, any around that's faught the war of 'getting chadderz usb driver to run' and survived to tell the tale?
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[13:42] <MrVector> anyone*
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[13:46] <ShorTie> what makes that so much better then the regular usb driver ??
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[13:54] <MrVector> ShorTie, it is used for barel metal development. There is no "regular" driver :-)
[13:54] <MrVector> bare metal*
[13:56] <ShorTie> oh
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[14:21] <jerng> yesterday i loaded the most recent raspbian image and copied the files from the boot partition onto my running SD-Card boot partition (of course, with backup). however, the Pi did not boot under teh new configuration. could the reason be that i'm running debian on that machine? (probablsomething with y armhf/armel)?
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[14:26] <bitbuzzer> hi all. I'm installing a wifi dongle, and my /etc/network/interfaces file is blank. Is this normal?
[14:27] <pksato> bitbuzzer: no on raspbian and others debian.
[14:27] <pksato> always have at least lo interface.
[14:28] <bitbuzzer> the raspberry pi is connected fine via wired connection. does this mean its the wrong file?
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[14:28] <pksato> may be.
[14:29] <bitbuzzer> pksato: I wonder if I should just paste in the full contents as it should be...
[14:31] <pksato> bitbuzzer: or is wrong file, or not raspbian.
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[14:31] <bitbuzzer> pksato: I've installed raspbmc on my device... maybe that's why
[14:32] <ShorTie> os will take wired connection over wifi
[14:33] <pksato> Raspbmc is a debian basead.
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[14:36] <pksato> but, Raspbmc can have own way to configure network.
[14:38] <bitbuzzer> pksato: yup, you're right - it has its own config under /home/pi/.... thx!
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[14:42] <Benguin> ahh
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[14:43] <Benguin> that time when I updated the rpi firmware and it broke stuff, I didn't do a shutdown -h when I rebooted, I just, typed reboot
[14:43] <Benguin> that's probably why it broke \o/
[14:43] <ShorTie> don't forget the 'now' in that
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[14:44] <Benguin> I /always/ forget the now, butt fortunately it defaults to like, 2 minutes
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[15:38] <MrVector> Woho! Csud working! Now to read up on converting scan codes to something useful
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[15:58] <hht> hello, i have connected raspberry pi through hdmi to tv, and cant see anything
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[15:59] <hht> do i need to power rpi with power adapter?
[15:59] <ShiftPlusOne> yes, 'course
[16:01] <hht> what?
[16:01] <hht> which power adapter?
[16:01] <hht> i have 12V-1A
[16:01] <hht> can it be?
[16:01] <ShiftPlusOne> 5v
[16:01] <hht> 5V - 1A ?
[16:01] <ShiftPlusOne> at least 1A, yes.
[16:02] <hht> 5V-2A will be ok?
[16:02] <ShiftPlusOne> yup, perfect
[16:02] <hht> ok thanks
[16:03] <ShiftPlusOne> np
[16:03] <hht> hm buit i dont have such connector to connect to it ;/
[16:03] <hht> is there other way i can power up rpi?
[16:03] <ShiftPlusOne> yes, but I wouldn't recommend it if you don't know what you're doing.
[16:04] <ShiftPlusOne> you don't have a phone charger with a microusb connector?
[16:05] <hht> i have
[16:05] <hht> 5V-0,5A
[16:06] <ShiftPlusOne> hm, well you need one of those, but at least 1A, You can try the 0.5A just to see if the pi boots, but you may run into trouble when you start plugging usb devices in.
[16:06] <SirLagz> How can I ping something...but when i go and try and telnet to it it says no route to host...wtf ?
[16:06] <hht> how to connect rpi to PC to flash it with raspbianxbmc
[16:06] <SirLagz> pings fine
[16:06] <SirLagz> but can't telnet...
[16:06] <hht> tell me the simplest way
[16:06] <hht> to connect rpi to flash it with firmware
[16:06] <SirLagz> hht: with a USB card reader ?
[16:06] <ShiftPlusOne> hht, have you looked at the quickstart quide?
[16:07] <nid0> ping working but telnet not sounds, in all honesty, like pebkac
[16:07] <SirLagz> nid0: you would think so...but there are only so many ways i can mistype a few numbers lol
[16:07] <ShiftPlusOne> hht, http://www.raspberrypi.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/quick-start-guide-v2_1.pdf
[16:07] <tig|> SirLagz: firewall?
[16:07] <hht> ok but i need how to power it up
[16:07] <hht> connect to pc using microusb connector?
[16:07] <nid0> SirLagz: got a copy/paste of the two commands one after the other?
[16:07] <SirLagz> tig|: I think you may be onto something there.
[16:08] <tig|> SirLagz: well pings are icmp and telnet is tcp
[16:08] <hht> i have connected rpi with microusb cable to PC what next
[16:09] <ShiftPlusOne> hht, read the quickstart guide
[16:09] <SirLagz> nid0: http://pastebin.com/SLeYKu7U
[16:09] <chithead> it is not recommended to connect the pi to a pc's usb port. better use a usb power adapter or a powered hub
[16:09] <ShiftPlusOne> chithead, he's trying to 'flash' the rpi by connecting it to the pc.
[16:10] <SirLagz> i can ssh to the box too, but can't access port 80 lol
[16:10] <chithead> the microusb port provides no data connectivity whatsoever
[16:10] <tig|> hht: be aware that you may run into problems with that as the PC will only give 0.5A and you really need 0.7A or ideally 1A to be on the safe side, but read the quick start as you don't flash it like that
[16:11] <hht> tig, maybe should i use usb 3.0 port with additional power?
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[16:12] <SirLagz> I didn't realise CentOS had firewall rules set by default lol
[16:12] <SirLagz> derp.
[16:12] <SirLagz> nid0: pebcak indeed :D
[16:12] <nid0> yes, annoying little mini set of rules that
[16:13] <SirLagz> iptables -F fixes that. :D
[16:13] <nid0> dunno why on earth theyre there, for a home user os I can understand coming with some default-on rules for people too clueless to set them up themselves
[16:13] <nid0> but thats not centos.
[16:13] <SirLagz> enterprise operation system should be secure by default I guess
[16:16] <SirLagz> saves a system when a noob sysadmin doesn't setup rules ?
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[16:17] <nid0> tough really, shouldnt be playing with things they cant use properly
[16:17] <tig|> I prefer picnic to pebcak :)
[16:17] <nid0> but, equally I suppose, its not exactly hard just to remember to flush the rules on a new install, swings and roundabouts really
[16:17] <SirLagz> lol tig|
[16:17] <SirLagz> nid0: agreed.
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[16:34] <tig|> nid0: so installing CentOS is like going to the bathroom: you need to remember to flush and wash your hands afterwards :)
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[16:35] <SirLagz> tig|: haha
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[16:38] <featheredfrog> suddenly my rpi is kernel panic-ing on boot. googling leaves little joy. any suggestions? both a mod B and a mod A, 7-2013 raspian wheezy.
[16:39] <ShiftPlusOne> featheredfrog, what's the tp1-tp2 voltage and are you overclocking?
[16:39] <featheredfrog> haven't checked, not overclocking. I'll get out my meter tonight.
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[16:43] <Demp> I'm trying to build an IR transceiver for the pi from this schematic: http://aron.ws/projects/lirc_rpi/rpi_lirc_transceiver_sch.png but I don't understand the EXT_POWER pins (I have very little EE knowledge). I can't make sense of the notes on the bottom there either. any idea what the EXT_POWER pins are supposed to be connected to?
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[16:50] <pksato> Demp: to a external power source. But. not need. just connect R4 and C1 junction to 5V and remove R5.
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[16:54] <Demp> pksato: I got that part. I can understand pin 5 being ground and 3 VCC, but then what are the other pins for? I need external power because I have other stuff connected via gpio that don't work when I connect a less efficient ir transceiver circuit that does work, I assume because it can't handle the current
[16:55] <Demp> notes say GND on P4, which doesn't make any sense to me at all
[16:56] <cb122> Has anyone played with getting pbxinaflash on one of these in here yet?
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[16:58] <Demp> got disconnected for a minute there, if someone answered my question
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[17:23] <eval-> nan
[17:23] <nerdboy> moin
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[18:07] <RavenII> Can you develop on the....
[18:07] <RavenII> can you use GTK+ or Qt on the Pi?
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[18:08] <opcode> RavenII: I've only used gtk but I'm positive that Qt would work as well
[18:09] <opcode> if you're running raspbian you can pretty much use any tool or library that you can use on a regular linux system, as long as there is a package for it
[18:09] <RavenII> So?you can literally make a whole app?on the RPi?that. Is. Awesome! (Sorry, new to programming)
[18:09] <opcode> np, we were all new at one point
[18:09] <opcode> as far as making "a whole app"
[18:09] <opcode> yes
[18:09] <opcode> generally speaking
[18:09] <johnc-> I see lots of ? in RavenII's messages :/
[18:09] <opcode> you can do anything on your rpi that you can do on a regular desktop
[18:09] <johnc-> must be an encoding issue
[18:10] <opcode> johnc-: i think it's changing his elipses to a single character
[18:10] <opcode> he's on what looks like pidgin
[18:10] <RavenII> oh, yeah, it's doing that, sorry, let me disable it.
[18:10] <opcode> RavenII: here's how it looks for me
[18:10] <opcode> 09:09 < RavenII> So?you can literally make a whole app?on the RPi?that. Is. Awesome! (Sorry, new to programming)
[18:10] <johnc-> between limechat and a bnc I'm not sure where the encoding issue is on my end :/
[18:11] <RavenII> That sucks. Haha
[18:11] <johnc-> could be the IRC server though
[18:11] <opcode> yep, could be
[18:11] <RavenII> Nah, it's XChat
[18:11] <Benguin> same for me johnc-
[18:11] <Benguin> I'm using hexchat via znc
[18:11] * opcode is on znc/irssi and sees the same issue
[18:11] <Benguin> I just assumed he was russian or something hahah
[18:11] <opcode> probably server-side
[18:11] <RavenII> I see it change the 3 dots to three really small dots.
[18:11] <johnc-> RavenII: GTK works well but can be a little slow, just heads up
[18:11] <opcode> ^ yeah it's putting a non-ascii character in
[18:11] <Benguin> � like that?
[18:11] <opcode> ... interesting
[18:12] <opcode> maybe it's not an ascii problem
[18:12] <opcode> tbqh character set problems baffle me
[18:12] <Benguin> Me too
[18:12] <Benguin> For some reason there are sites on the internet, where whenver the letters "i" then "f" are used, it produces a weird combined hj character
[18:13] <opcode> yeah they're called ligatures
[18:13] <RavenII> Let's see if ol' Rammy Ram fixed it...
[18:13] <Benguin> http://i.imgur.com/fCKakK0.png
[18:13] <opcode> there's one for "tt"
[18:13] <opcode> and sz
[18:13] <Benguin> f then I, sorry
[18:13] <RavenII> You guys see three dots?
[18:13] <Benguin> yep
[18:13] <opcode> yep
[18:13] <RavenII> Cool, that takes care of that.
[18:13] <opcode> so anyways
[18:14] <opcode> anything you can do on a desktop youcan pretty much do on your pi
[18:14] <opcode> the only difference being it's ARM, not intel
[18:14] <opcode> and it's obviously got a lot less power than a typical desktop
[18:14] <opcode> (generally speaking)
[18:14] <johnc-> yup
[18:14] <RavenII> Right, well, I downloaded Qt for Mac but you can't cross compile to embedded Linux (easily)
[18:14] <johnc-> I'm writing a dashboard for my TV :)
[18:14] <opcode> no, not easily
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[18:15] <RavenII> Which kinda sucks beau....wait, I have a Mac Mini server, I wonder no...it's, wait yeah, I could install Linux on that and cross compile, no?
[18:16] <opcode> RavenII: if you have enough space on your filesystem i'd consider compiling it on the pi directly, then you don't need to worry about cross-compiling hassles
[18:16] <RavenII> 32GB MicroSD?
[18:16] <RavenII> Currently only using 2.24GB
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[18:16] <opcode> yeah you have tons of space
[18:16] <johnc-> hehe, shouldn't take tooooooo long to compile
[18:16] <johnc-> :P
[18:16] * johnc- has compiled all of mono on his pi
[18:17] <RavenII> Days? Hours? or Minutes?
[18:17] <opcode> depends on the size of what you're compiling
[18:17] <johnc-> ^^
[18:17] <opcode> "hello world" would take seconds
[18:17] <opcode> X would take hours and hours
[18:18] <opcode> i remember installing wine on gentoo once... on a 300MHz celeron... yeah that took a day and a half
[18:18] <johnc-> but it was super optimized, amirite?!
[18:18] <opcode> lol
[18:18] <opcode> SOOOO optimized
[18:18] <opcode> that was the day i realized binary distros were better
[18:19] <opcode> if i was running mission-critical infrastructure I'd consider gentoo... otherwise forget it
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[18:19] <johnc-> even so you still need a compile slave
[18:19] <RavenII> I mean, this isn't the next -insert some huge epic app name here-, just a small weather app with transparency, etc. maybe a todo list of some sort
[18:20] <opcode> yeah RavenII i suspect that wouldn't take very long at all
[18:20] <Bandikoto> opscode: Mission-critical infrastructure gets *BSD
[18:20] <opcode> Bandikoto: yeah fair point
[18:20] <opcode> RavenII: only way to find out is to try it. worst case scenario you can ctrl-C and do it on your mac
[18:21] <RavenII> I like the way you think...I like just doing/trying. Makes the best way to find something out.
[18:21] <RavenII> Usually I just need a starting point.
[18:21] <opcode> thumbs up
[18:21] <opcode> that's one of the reasons the rpi is so great
[18:21] <Bandikoto> And once you figure it out, you *know*
[18:21] <opcode> even if you do something REALLY bad and actually wreck the hardware
[18:22] <opcode> it's only 25 bucks to get another
[18:22] <opcode> :D
[18:22] <johnc-> which all reminds me, I need to bug the guy working on armhf support for mono to see if it's done yet
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[18:22] <RavenII> Bandikoto, right.
[18:23] <johnc-> oh! would any of you happen to know how to get a small notification window to show over omxplayer? if it's even possible?
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[18:23] <quackgyver> For some reason my fresh NOOBS install threw me into bash cli despite my selecting boot into desktop
[18:24] <quackgyver> This has never happened before, and I don't want anything to be broken already. Any ideas?
[18:24] <opcode> johnc-: nope sorry
[18:25] <opcode> quackgyver: check your logs, also make sure your power supply is adequate
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[18:25] <johnc-> my thoughts are it would require writing to whatever omxplayer writes directly to (framebuffer?)
[18:25] <quackgyver> opcode: why would the power supply relate to this problem?
[18:25] <quackgyver> also, can you tell me the line to the logs?
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[18:25] <quackgyver> er, path
[18:26] <opcode> well i'd check /var/log/messages /var/log/kernel and dmesg too
[18:26] <opcode> as for power supply, my experience has been that if you don't have enough wattage then the pi can behave erratically
[18:28] <quackgyver> aight
[18:28] <quackgyver> well, the log file is full, idk what im looking for
[18:28] <quackgyver> guess ill just startx
[18:28] <opcode> well i'd look for error messages, near the bottom, relating to X server crashing
[18:29] <quackgyver> well, im on a hdmi tv and the log file is literally huge :-)
[18:29] <quackgyver> and full of info i can barely decipher
[18:29] <opcode> try
[18:29] <quackgyver> so its hard for me
[18:29] <quackgyver> i already did
[18:29] <opcode> no i mean
[18:29] <opcode> try the following :
[18:29] <Bandikoto> Not only wattage, but I've heard of cheap power supplies that are kind of erratic on their voltage output, too. (Which will also make the Rπ go funny)
[18:29] <quackgyver> oh, haha. :P
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[18:29] <opcode> $ dmesg | less
[18:29] <opcode> you can scroll up and down
[18:29] <opcode> or dmesg | tail
[18:29] <opcode> will just give you the last few lines
[18:30] <johnc-> always pipe to less!
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[18:32] <Bandikoto> Is there a /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?
[18:33] <quackgyver> Ok so
[18:33] <quackgyver> apparently my settings weren't saved at all
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[18:33] <quackgyver> After the NOOBS setup
[18:33] <quackgyver> :-/
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[18:33] <opcode> hey Bandikoto do you use the Compose Key to type that "pi" character?
[18:33] <rz950> hello
[18:33] <opcode> hi
[18:34] <johnc-> π
[18:34] <opcode> what's the sequence
[18:34] <opcode> for that
[18:34] <opcode> i tried Compose-p-i but nothing
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[18:34] <johnc-> the secret dies with me
[18:34] <Bandikoto> opcode: I set my Linux boxen so that they have a Macintosh keyboard. right-alt p gets me π
[18:34] <opcode> noooo
[18:34] <rz950> how many streams of h264 enconding could the pi hold?
[18:34] <IT_Sean> johnc-: It's not a secret! π
[18:35] <Bandikoto> it_sean: ^C^V?
[18:35] <rz950> I'd like to setup a the pi as a nvr, I don't have one myself yet but wondering if it'd be able to handle recording 4 cameras
[18:35] <johnc-> IT_Sean: you cheated by copy/pasting mine :P
[18:35] <opcode> oh you guys are on windows
[18:35] <Bandikoto> opcode: Much better than the default US keyboard!
[18:35] <Bandikoto> Windows? *shudder*
[18:36] <opcode> well i just assumed
[18:36] <opcode> from ^C^V
[18:36] <Bandikoto> windoze, linux, ...?
[18:36] <Bandikoto> flower-c flower-v on macs
[18:36] <rendar> in my rasp i have '/' mounted 2 times: 1 time is rootfs, and 2 time is /dev/root -- whats going on?
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[18:37] <johnc-> rz950: if you aren't encoding the video on the pi at all you could make it work on an external HD but you wouldn't get crazy write speeds
[18:37] <IT_Sean> johnc-: I did not!
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[18:37] <rz950> yeah it'd be enconding to a HDD
[18:37] <rz950> I'm willing to write software to have a nvr like interface and all
[18:38] <johnc-> you could purchase a license for the hardware encoder (iirc the pi has that) but I don't think it does simultaneous streams
[18:38] <rz950> but I'd like to make sure suce a device could handle it, assuming I could use h264?
[18:38] * IT_Sean hits johnc- in the face with a π
[18:38] <rz950> oh
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[18:46] <rymate1234> How's waylaid going for the pi?
[18:46] <rymate1234> *wayland
[18:46] <rymate1234> Any progress since it was announced?
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[18:47] <jimboy> anyone know how to install dropbox on the pi?
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[18:48] <patagonicus> rymate1234: There was a video somewhere were some of the rendering work was offloaded to the pi's GPU, but other than that I haven't heard much.
[18:48] <rymate1234> Ah ok
[18:48] <rymate1234> Yay
[18:51] <rz950> I suppose if the camera does h264 encoding then the pi should be able to handle multiple streams
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[18:51] <hht> hi, will any bluetooth adapter work with rpi?
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[18:52] <johnc-> right, if you're encoding off the pi you should be ok up to a point
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[18:52] <johnc-> I wouldn't try and store the videos on the sd card though
[18:52] <johnc-> heavy IO tends to corrupt it from what I've seen
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[18:55] <johnc-> and no matter how you slice it you'd be receiving the video and storing it via the same bus (network and usb are the same bus iirc) so you could get bottlenecked quickly
[18:56] <hht> does rpi with raspbmc will handle big library(about 500 movies) ?
[18:56] <IT_Sean> hht: depends on how big your harddrive is.
[18:57] <hht> its sd card 1gb?
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[18:57] <IT_Sean> 1 gig, noooo
[18:57] <IT_Sean> you will NEVER fit 500 movies on 1 gig.
[18:57] <Bandikoto> That won't fit 500 3 minute YT vids.
[18:57] <IT_Sean> you will need a massive harddrive.
[18:57] <hht> how much size do i need?
[18:57] <IT_Sean> ... about a terribyte.
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[18:57] <jlf> someone named IT_Sean should know how to spell terabyte :)
[18:57] <hht> i meant, raspmbc library cached
[18:58] <IT_Sean> jlf: bite me.
[18:58] <Bandikoto> A DVD holds either 4.5 or 9 GiB of data.
[18:58] <Bandikoto> (about)
[18:58] <hht> ....
[18:58] <hht> cached library
[18:58] <jlf> IT_Sean: classy
[18:58] <IT_Sean> not sure i follow...
[18:58] <johnc-> a bluray is more like 20GB
[18:58] <atouk> it_sean should know how to spell byte
[18:58] <IT_Sean> if you want to store 500 movies, you will need A LOT of storage
[18:58] <hht> does rpi with raspbmc will handle with that big library , i mean browsing that library etc.. Will it be enough smooth?
[18:58] <jlf> atouk++
[18:58] <IT_Sean> hht: yes, you can browse a library that size
[18:59] <IT_Sean> But, to STORE the movies, you will need a large harddrive
[18:59] <Bandikoto> Your I/O is going to be so restricted (USB sucks) that you won't want to have big directories, so you're going to have to think about how you store things.
[18:59] <hht> lol i know..
[18:59] <sraue> hht, for XBMC (not RaspBMC) 1GB should be a little to low to handle 500 movies in the library, i would use 4 or more GB
[18:59] <hht> sraue you sure?
[19:00] <hht> hm
[19:00] <sraue> but it depends a bit if you download thumbnails and fanarts too
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[19:00] <hht> yes
[19:00] <sraue> take a fanart, size 1920x1020 which is a image, and some thumbnails...
[19:01] <sraue> then the database byself...
[19:01] <sraue> i think thils will need around 1-2MB per video, maybe more
[19:03] <sraue> then you need some space for the OS to work a bit...
[19:03] <IT_Sean> not to mention the actual space FOR the OS.
[19:04] <sraue> depends if he means a 1GB sdcard, where Raspbmc will not fit or 1GB for $HOME
[19:05] <sraue> 1GB for the sdcard is ther very down limit for OpenELEC to run/work... and Raspbmc is around 5 times that big then OpenELEC
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[19:10] <hht> how to check in raspbmc how much space free i have available?
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[19:12] <sraue> "df -h" or in XBMCs systeminfo screen
[19:12] <ShorTie> df -h
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[19:18] <Shambler[Bishop> why does raspbmc (latest I believe), every time I start it up, always spend about ~15 minutes stuttering and being barely usable for video
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[19:20] <Shambler[Bishop> also regularly lose the ability to login to ftp with it
[19:20] <Shambler[Bishop> i.e. user accounts seem to be getting reset/corrupted regularly
[19:20] <Shambler[Bishop> (or at least, that's what I assume is happening)
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[19:25] <gordonDrogon> does anyone know if the test.h264 file on the Pi has audio with it, or is it just a few seconds of video?
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[19:37] <gordonDrogon> it's ok. based on playing something else, it doesn't have sound.
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[19:57] <IT_Sean> (>_<) erft.
[19:57] <IT_Sean> "We are a non-profit... would we have to pay for your services?"
[19:57] <IT_Sean> Um... YES!
[19:57] * IT_Sean rolls his eyes
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[19:58] <johnc-> lol
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[19:58] <johnc-> why would non-profit == gets free stuff?
[19:58] <IT_Sean> johnc-: No idea.
[19:58] <nid0> because theyre speshul!
[19:58] <IT_Sean> oh this guy is speeshul alright.
[19:58] <johnc-> non-profit != doesn't make income
[19:59] <johnc-> I used to get a lot of that stuff
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[19:59] <johnc-> sorry dudes, I can't take a note saying I'm working for a non-profit to my landlord
[19:59] <atouk> if not making money = non profit, i'd be a 501.3(C)
[20:00] <johnc-> I've never understood why non-profits have a stereotype of being strapped for cash
[20:01] <IT_Sean> This was a church.
[20:01] <atouk> because the org is usally broke because of the executive payroll
[20:01] <IT_Sean> But they still gotta pay
[20:01] <johnc-> if it's a church, charge double
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[20:04] <ShorTie> be nice now
[20:05] <pfui> my Ralink RT5370 wifi dongle keeps powering off at random even though I've disabled power management on the device, what gives?
[20:06] <johnc-> insufficient power?
[20:06] <IT_Sean> ^ could be.
[20:06] <IT_Sean> Many Wifi dongles will need a powered hub
[20:07] <pfui> nope, works fine so long as there's traffic on the network
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[20:18] <InanTop> Hi all, I'm porting an existing mobile OpenGLES engine to the raspberry pi, and I'm seeing abysmal opengl performance. Could there be a problem in my config or use of APIs that's causing me to hit a software fallback?
[20:19] <InanTop> Is there a way to ensure I'm getting accelerated GL
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[20:25] <InanTop> is there such a thing as software fallback on the raspberry pi for opengles?
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[20:25] <InanTop> maybe I'm CPU bound? It seems unlikely.. this is a mobile engine and the pi has comparable specs
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[20:27] <hht> what does it mean http://puu.sh/4eSKT.jpg
[20:27] <hht> how much free space available i have
[20:27] <hht> 786 MB ?
[20:27] <hht> 776MB ?
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[20:28] <johnc-> 18M available on /
[20:28] <hht> wow
[20:28] <hht> really 18MB ?
[20:29] <hht> ok thanks
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[21:03] <IT_Sean> clear
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[21:03] <j4jackj> hi IT_Sean
[21:04] <IT_Sean> 'ello
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[21:18] <InanTop> Anyone do OpenGLES on the pi?
[21:18] <InanTop> what kind of performance should I be expecting
[21:19] <InanTop> it severely underperforms mobile devices in my testing with an existing mobile engine
[21:19] <InanTop> could I have non-accelerated ES running somehow?
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