#raspberrypi IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2013-08-31

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[2:00] <italic> i'm not sure what im asking here, but, is there a way for a rpi to signal over its hdmi for the tv to switch to that source input?
[2:00] <PhotoJim> the TV has to have that function.
[2:01] <PhotoJim> (or A/V receiver, if your Pi is plugged into one instead)
[2:01] <PhotoJim> my Pi powers up my TV automatically and switches inputs, because my A/V receiver supports that. it sees output on the Pi's HDMI and off it goes.
[2:01] <italic> are there tvs with that function? what would the pi have to do, wake the desktop?
[2:03] <italic> my pi is always on, i just want to log in and run a command for it to switch. just curious, doesnt seem doable
[2:04] * XeCrypt is now known as Tuxuser
[2:04] <PhotoJim> power-up does it . not sure you can do that while powered up already.
[2:04] <PhotoJim> unless you could get an A/V receiver that had serial control or something.
[2:04] <PhotoJim> but that would be pretty expensive.
[2:04] <nsgn> there's a name for the protocol some TVs support
[2:05] <nsgn> it isnt just cause it senses power on the HDMI port
[2:05] <PhotoJim> ahh
[2:05] <nsgn> its an actual data signalling that happens where HDMI devices can give power on, change channel, and even volume commands to each other
[2:05] <nsgn> HDMI-CEC?
[2:05] <nsgn> yeah. here you go http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDMI#CEC
[2:05] <nsgn> i dont know if it can be implemented in the pi's hdmi graphics driver. i doubt it already is
[2:06] <italic> oh cool, yeah i was wondering about something like that
[2:06] <nsgn> it may even require specific hardware support. i know little about it
[2:06] <nsgn> i just know its annoying as all heck so i turned it off on my TV
[2:06] <nsgn> i dont have a pi on my tv, but it caused my tv to try and outsmart my harmony remote
[2:06] <italic> i was pondering an infrared transmitter to act as a remote, but thats a bit much for this
[2:06] <nsgn> they're super super cheap
[2:07] <nsgn> i mean, like...IR LED on a GPIO pin cheap
[2:07] <italic> hmm, maybe ill look into that then
[2:08] <nsgn> of all the protocols that should be really easy to bang out a GPIO, IR control is pretty much the easiest
[2:08] <nsgn> i have never searched but i'd bet you someone has already written a library to do it
[2:09] <italic> i came across http://www.lirc.org
[2:10] <nsgn> italic, there you go. googling that with raspberry pi seems to show more than one person has it working on pi
[2:10] <nsgn> easy
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[2:12] <italic> ill see about giving it a go. i thought there had to be a better way from the tv makers, so hdmi-cec makes sense
[2:12] <nsgn> there is
[2:12] <nsgn> tholugh cec isn't very universally compatible
[2:12] <nsgn> and poorly supported from computers
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[2:46] <kcj> One of my tabs is giving be a talk about RPi and I can't find it.
[2:46] <nsgn> ?
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[2:47] <ShorTie> ctrl-alt-del will fix it
[2:47] <kcj> Found it.
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[3:06] <spacebug^> hello everyone
[3:06] <spacebug^> got a strange error
[3:06] <spacebug^> bash -c echo -e "2\n1" | sort -n gives "-bash: $'\302\240sort': command not found"
[3:06] <spacebug^> when over ssh
[3:09] <nsgn> doesnt seem that odd
[3:09] <nsgn> the command wasnt found
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[3:12] <ozzzy> why are you running 'bash -c'
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[3:12] <nsgn> spacebug^,
[3:14] <ozzzy> runs fine if you leave out the bash -c
[3:14] <ozzzy> gotta run
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[3:30] <spacebug^> ozzzy: found it. In OS X if one presses alt+space to fast haha
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[3:33] <dividedbyzer0> Hello!
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[3:37] <ShiftPlusOne> hi
[3:38] <dividedbyzer0> How goes it?
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[3:38] <ShiftPlusOne> Just woke up, not enough data to make a decision yet. >.>
[3:39] <ShiftPlusOne> I'll be sure to keep you posted as the situation develops.
[3:40] <ShiftPlusOne> And hows goes it with you?
[3:41] <nsgn> ha
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[3:45] <Coburn> where was someone here that had a status page on their R-Pi that I could access
[3:45] <Coburn> and it showed an RPM guage on CPU Load
[3:45] <Coburn> does anyone have the code for that
[3:45] <ShiftPlusOne> hm... I'd have to google around a bit to find it, but I know what you're talking about
[3:45] <ShiftPlusOne> hang on.
[3:46] <ShiftPlusOne> the name atouk comes to mind
[3:46] <nsgn> it'd be pretty easy to write that
[3:46] <nsgn> wasnt me, but it is simple to do
[3:46] <ShiftPlusOne> Coburn, there ya go http://www.atouk.com/wordpress/?page_id=238
[3:46] <Coburn> I know I can import the gauge texture, and then I could math some angles
[3:47] <ShiftPlusOne> is that the one?
[3:47] <ShiftPlusOne> except the gauge seems to be for temperature, not load
[3:48] <dividedbyzer0> Goes good.
[3:50] <Coburn> That's the one, ShiftPlusOne
[3:50] <Coburn> though that's only the temperature
[3:51] <Coburn> I might need to math some angles
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[3:52] <Coburn> https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0195/6694/products/tempblue_1024x1024.jpg?523
[3:52] <Coburn> That was what I was thinking of
[3:52] <Coburn> The harder my servers are working, the higher the needle will register
[3:53] <Coburn> I thought I'd have a "status" page on my servers that I deploy, that show how hard the CPU is crunching numbers or if it's on smoko break
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[3:53] <dividedbyzer0> Anyone know if that person offering web hosting is still around?
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[3:54] <Coburn> I offer web hosting, by the by
[3:54] <ShiftPlusOne> dividedbyzer0, which person? megaproxy or someone else?
[3:54] <dividedbyzer0> ShiftPlusOne, I believe it was megaproxy. Not exactly sure.
[3:55] <ShiftPlusOne> he's with vidahost.com
[3:55] <ShiftPlusOne> or just check the logs to see who it is you're thinking of
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[4:01] <Kaikz> Does anyone know about static IPs on Arch?
[4:02] <ShiftPlusOne> 90% sure the arch wiki does
[4:02] <ShiftPlusOne> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Network_Configuration#Static_IP_address
[4:03] <Kaikz> I've tried everything I can find and my netctl config doesn't load, falling back to DHCP
[4:03] <dividedbyzer0> It was him.
[4:03] <ShiftPlusOne> what does your /etc/conf.d/network@eth0 look like?
[4:05] <Kaikz> http://pastie.org/8285205
[4:05] <ShiftPlusOne> and I am assuming your /etc/systemd/system/network@.service is ok
[4:06] <ShiftPlusOne> systemctl start network@eth0.service fails?
[4:07] <Kaikz> Am I supposed to change the ${} things in the service unit?
[4:08] <ShiftPlusOne> No, that's the stuff pulled in from the conf.d file, I think
[4:10] <Kaikz> ok, status says it's loaded, but it's still booting into the DCHP IP
[4:10] <Kaikz> Not the one I specified in the config
[4:10] <ShiftPlusOne> I am guessing you have the dhcpcd service enabled
[4:11] <ShiftPlusOne> what's the output of systemctl list-units ?
[4:15] <Kaikz> ok I did systemctl stop dhcpcd@eth0.service, then rebooted the device and now the static IP works, do I need to actually disable it within systemctl?
[4:15] <ShiftPlusOne> aye
[4:16] <Kaikz> Awesome, thanks for the help!
[4:16] <ShiftPlusOne> no problem
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[4:31] <dividedbyzer0> Overclocking? Anyone? Anyone?
[4:31] <ShiftPlusOne> A little more information?
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[4:33] <dividedbyzer0> Is anyone overclocking their Pi?
[4:33] <pksato> no.
[4:33] <ShiftPlusOne> yes, people are
[4:33] <dividedbyzer0> Anyone here?
[4:33] <ShiftPlusOne> yes, most likely
[4:33] <dividedbyzer0> How about you?
[4:34] <ShiftPlusOne> not right now, since my sd card doesn't handle it well
[4:35] <ShiftPlusOne> I suspect you're not simply looking for someone who is overclocking their pi and you actually have a question to do with overclocking....?
[4:36] <dividedbyzer0> No questions here.
[4:36] <ShiftPlusOne> O_o ok
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[4:38] <dividedbyzer0> o_O
[4:40] <dividedbyzer0> Anyway, what distro are you running on your Pi?
[4:40] <ShiftPlusOne> arch
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[4:41] <dividedbyzer0> Good choice.
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[6:34] <Psil0Cybin> heyguys
[6:34] <Psil0Cybin> quick question for the raspberry pi
[6:34] <Psil0Cybin> does the Element14-WiPi work?
[6:34] <Psil0Cybin> just by inserting it into the Pi
[6:34] <Psil0Cybin> i got a diff mini usb but im planning on buying this one because its the only one in stock
[6:35] <Psil0Cybin> i want to make sure it works just as good, or do ajny usb wifi cards on the site work good
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[6:38] <Psil0Cybin> nvm
[6:38] <Psil0Cybin> found my answer
[6:38] <ShiftPlusOne> What was it?
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[8:10] <Demp> I've got an nRF24l01+ module connected to the raspberry pi, it works fine. yesterday I built an IR transceiver based on the bottom most schematic here: http://aron.ws/projects/lirc_rpi/ powered by 3 AA batteries, it also works fine (though it lacks range but that's a different issue). but when both are connected, RF module stops working (stops receiving signals - it has epoll on one of
[8:10] <Demp> the gpio pins to indicate an incoming signal). I don't understand why as the IR is powered externally
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[9:29] <zproc> hello
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[9:29] <zproc> is there a way to have / or simulate a RS232 port on the Pi?
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[9:30] <zproc> hmm i was googling something else and i forgot to google this, sorry, lookinh
[9:30] <zproc> -h+g
[9:33] <ShiftPlusOne> I am not sure how it would work without the DSR, RTS and CTS pins, but you can use the max232 chip for the rest of it
[9:33] <ShiftPlusOne> maybe you'd need to bitbang the rest or use a usb adapter
[9:37] <ShiftPlusOne> I wonder if there's a max232-like chip that's 3.3v rather than 5v though.
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[9:41] <Xark> ShiftPlusOne: Hmm, http://para.maximintegrated.com/search.mvp?fam=rs232&793=3.3&620=PDIP(N)%2F16%7CPDIP(N)%2F18%7CPDIP(N)%2F20%7CPDIP(N)%2F28
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[9:42] <ShiftPlusOne> Hurray for parametric searches (thanks)
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[9:43] <ShiftPlusOne> So, looks like the MAX3323 is the one.
[9:44] <Xark> Probably...maybe one of the others would work (read the data sheet before purchasing...). :)
[9:44] <zproc> ShiftPlusOne: yeah i found the MAX3232 that's 3.3
[9:45] <zproc> i guess this would do http://www.ebay.fr/itm/MAX3232-RS232-Serial-Port-To-TTL-Converter-Module-DB9-Connector-w-Cables-UK-88-/121154515307?pt=UK_BOI_Electrical_Test_Measurement_Equipment_ET&hash=item1c355f316b
[9:46] <ShiftPlusOne> Looks ok.
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[9:48] <zproc> now i just need to find the serial interface for my Atari Portfolio :o)
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[9:58] <zproc> duh, i only find parallel interfaces on ebay
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[11:32] <CheckMatt> hi
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[11:52] <gordonDrogon> morning.
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[12:12] <Kane> hi o/
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[12:54] <teme> good morning
[12:54] <teme> I have one problem with my raspberry....it's a printer server cups
[12:54] <teme> when I start the usb printer, the ethernet crash and I reboot the raspberry
[12:54] <teme> it's normal?
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[12:56] <teme> I read that there is a problem with power supply and USB
[12:56] <teme> Is it real?
[12:57] <mgottschlag> hm, a printer shouldn't actually draw power from the pi
[12:58] <teme> it's right...
[12:59] <ShiftPlusOne> teme, have you checked your tp1-tp2 voltage?
[13:00] <teme> this is my log file
[13:00] <teme> http://pastebin.com/DUffyJqd
[13:01] <teme> no ShiftPlusOne, now measure it...
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[13:27] <raptor67682> hi
[13:28] <mongrol> r
[13:28] <raptor67682> would you know if I put the version B PI into a casing box , does it need a cooling?
[13:28] <raptor67682> I am worried that it burns or put fire
[13:28] <raptor67682> i saw on ebay that they sell some cooler transistor for the pi
[13:28] <ShiftPlusOne> no, no cooling needed
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[13:28] <raptor67682> are you sure?
[13:28] <ShiftPlusOne> 100%
[13:28] <raptor67682> I own a sheeva and it is hot , very hot
[13:29] <raptor67682> what is the diff with a sheeva? does the pi is much slower ?
[13:29] <ShiftPlusOne> I don't know about the sheeva, but you can look up the specs of both
[13:29] <raptor67682> i read taht people using pi (debian) have said that the PI version B is sluggish
[13:29] <ShiftPlusOne> raptor67682, sluggish doing what?
[13:30] <raptor67682> Marvell Kirkwood 1.2GHz ARMv5te
[13:30] <SpeedEvil> if you put it into a box - pick at least a vented one. If your enbvironment is warm - >40C - you might consider a teeeny fan
[13:31] <raptor67682> oh thanks
[13:31] <raptor67682> a vented one, what is it?
[13:31] <raptor67682> version B + vented?
[13:32] <SpeedEvil> raptor67682: a case with holes in to allow warm air to escape
[13:32] <raptor67682> most boxing for pi on ebay are without holes
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[13:33] <raptor67682> http://www.conrad.com/ce/en/product/358366/TEKO-TEK-BERRY0-Raspberry-Pi-Case-Transparent-1007-x-736-x-265-mm
[13:33] <raptor67682> what about this one? does it need a venting system? I think that it will burn out ;)
[13:34] <SpeedEvil> It's not an issue really if you're at a 20C ambient.
[13:34] <ShiftPlusOne> Or at all
[13:34] <raptor67682> oh really
[13:34] <raptor67682> sounds good
[13:34] <SpeedEvil> But a hotter environment can cause the case to warm noticably.
[13:34] <raptor67682> I wanna put one on top of fridge
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[13:35] <raptor67682> a fridge is hot, and in kitchen, there is sometimes higher temperature when u are coolking
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[13:35] <SpeedEvil> ShiftPlusOne: The pi shuts down at 85C. if in normal operation in free air it gets to 25C over ambient, then it will shut down at a temperature of 60C. If you put it in a case, this may drop to 50, or even 45C.
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[13:36] <SpeedEvil> A tiny, tiny fan will greatly help.
[13:36] <SpeedEvil> i would not suggest heatsinks.
[13:36] <pksato> just need a air flow
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[13:36] <chris_99> or liquid nitrogen
[13:36] <raptor67682> but on that boxing above, there is no fan possibility, and fan adding operation needs a welding tooling ?
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[13:37] <SpeedEvil> www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FAST36-5-Fastraxx-Micro-Fan-Unit-W-Wiring-and-plug-30-X-30-mm-/400534812979?pt=UK_ToysGames_RadioControlled_JN&hash=item5d41bc3933 - for example would be overkill.
[13:37] <ShiftPlusOne> It does not shut down at 85, only sets the clocks and voltages to default.
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[13:37] <SpeedEvil> You need to be able to cut plastic - you can even just tape the fan on.
[13:37] <ShorTie> just drill a few holes in it
[13:38] <raptor67682> maybn many thanks
[13:38] <raptor67682> this ebay co.uk sounds good
[13:38] <ShiftPlusOne> Maybe an argument from ignorance, but I have not heard of a pi getting near 80 without overclocking, even when cased.
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[13:38] <ozzzy> my pi is in a case and runs at 49-52
[13:39] <raptor67682> which package have u installed to check the temperature ? do u use debian too?
[13:39] <ShiftPlusOne> vcgencmd
[13:39] <ShiftPlusOne> already installed
[13:39] <ShiftPlusOne> vcgencmd measure_temp
[13:39] <raptor67682> u cannot get the temperature directly from teh /proc ?
[13:40] <ShiftPlusOne> /sys/class/thermal/thermal_zone0/temp
[13:40] <SpeedEvil> i think - http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Evercool-40mm-4cm-40-x-40-x-10mm-3-Pin-5-Volt-PC-Case-Fan-HH-/370778353114?pt=UK_Computing_Case_Fans&hash=item56541cadda - for example - would work and plug right in - if you cut the yellow wire - it would connect to the Pi GPIO header
[13:41] <SpeedEvil> ozzzy: what's your room temeprature?
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[13:41] <SpeedEvil> ozzzy: or rather - the temperature outside the case, if these differ
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[13:43] <ozzzy> SpeedEvil: usually about 22-24
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[13:43] <raptor67682> many thanks for so much info !!
[13:44] <SpeedEvil> Also - there are many possibly better sites for you than ebay - assuming you're not in the uk
[13:45] <raptor67682> how much faster is the cpu of the sheevaplug compared to the PI B ? http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=573
[13:45] <SpeedEvil> twice?
[13:46] <raptor67682> twice is quite much
[13:46] <raptor67682> my pandora is 1ghz and it is the minimum
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[13:46] <raptor67682> 700 ghz would be pain no?
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[13:46] <ShiftPlusOne> I'd kill for a 700GHz
[13:46] <raptor67682> when I compile on the sheeva, it runs several minutes
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[13:47] <ShiftPlusOne> These computers aren't really for compiling large applications on.
[13:47] <raptor67682> on the pandora 1ghz, much much faster, so I belive that GHZ is not a reliable thingi to compare
[13:47] <plugwash> AIUI the sheevaplug has a higher clock than the Pi but it's an older core design
[13:47] <plugwash> so speed comparisons will likely depend heavilly on workload
[13:47] <raptor67682> isnt there a C code to do a CPU processor comparing / how fast...?
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[13:48] <raptor67682> I could run a simple calculatioin algoritgh and check the time with date/time ... printf
[13:48] <plugwash> sure you can find such C code but first you have to answer "how fast at what"
[13:48] <raptor67682> ahhh
[13:48] <raptor67682> I didnt know
[13:49] <raptor67682> I usually use cli termcap applications so for me I like C based apps, so, thats all need of those toys
[13:49] <plugwash> the real advantage of something like the sheevaplug over the Pi though is the IO. The Pi has everything stuck behind USB.......
[13:49] <raptor67682> what is IO ?
[13:49] <raptor67682> ah ok
[13:50] <raptor67682> but with the Sheeva, u have a HAMA powered usb dupblicator, so it is fine
[13:50] <raptor67682> if my sheeva burns out, i ll go for pi probably
[13:51] <gordonDrogon> go for Pi anyway ;-)
[13:51] <raptor67682> anyway sure
[13:51] <raptor67682> (next month due to $ status)
[13:52] <raptor67682> it is 35 bucks online, but, once u ship it to germany, you get extra costs :(
[13:52] <raptor67682> A total of 25 euros would be great for the b but i coulndt find any
[13:52] <gordonDrogon> no local Farnell or RS ?
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[13:52] <gordonDrogon> you'll need to pay local VAT too.
[13:53] <raptor67682> local farnell is too expensive
[13:53] <raptor67682> you gotta place a country and all get worse then
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[13:55] <raptor67682> £36.98
[13:55] <raptor67682> I get a total of 37 gbp
[13:56] <raptor67682> which is 43 euros
[13:56] <raptor67682> I am sorry but 43 euros is not a cheap computer any longer
[13:56] <raptor67682> for 90 euros, I can get a tablet and install linux on it
[13:57] <raptor67682> even 75 euros, a tablet is available so... PI B is not cheap but quite expensvie based on this above assessment.
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[13:57] <ShiftPlusOne> can't really compare a pi to a tablet.
[13:58] <pksato> another person that dont understand raspberry pi ideas. :)
[13:58] <ShiftPlusOne> hell, you could get a tamagotchi for way less, but have fun building a robot with it.
[13:58] <ozzzy> the Pi is cheap if you don't need something that runs outdoors on DC and you don't want a display
[13:58] <ozzzy> er... if you NEED something that runs outdoors etc.
[14:02] <raptor67682> 45 euros is expensive for me, in my opinion. 30 euros maybe it is going better. ideally cheap is below 25 euros.
[14:02] <raptor67682> I dont talk about fun, but about accountancy
[14:02] <raptor67682> i am limit this month
[14:02] <ShiftPlusOne> so, tamagotchi it is then =P
[14:02] <raptor67682> i would have fun sure, but, reallity tells differnent
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[14:03] <ShiftPlusOne> but yes, of course 75 euros is too much.
[14:03] <pksato> for media player, chinese MK808 stick cost less that pi.
[14:04] <pksato> or mk802
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[14:06] <gordonDrogon> do they still sell tamagotchis? I thought they were a fad of the 90's then forgotten...
[14:08] <ShiftPlusOne> I think so. I remember watching a talk about hacking them not too long ago.
[14:08] <pksato> Some survived.
[14:09] <ShiftPlusOne> raptor67682, from what I can see, the pi is 39 euros with 'free' shipping from RS.
[14:10] <ShiftPlusOne> ah nvrm, you were saying 75 for a tablet... scratch that.
[14:10] <mongrol> RS are shocking at delivery and service
[14:10] <ShiftPlusOne> there have been reports of that a while back, yes.
[14:11] <ShiftPlusOne> They seem to have improved since then.
[14:11] <raptor67682> for 39 euros, my mate told me that it is too much. :( 30euros would be maybe still possible. I ask again...
[14:11] <ozzzy> my Pi cost me $49 taxes and shipping incl. from E1
[14:11] <ozzzy> er.. E14
[14:12] <ShiftPlusOne> I think mine was about the same from element 14, including a case.
[14:12] <mongrol> I just got a model A delivered from RS in Australia, took a month
[14:12] <ShiftPlusOne> $45 all up, iirc.
[14:12] <mongrol> took a week to ship
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[14:12] <ShiftPlusOne> sounds like RS alright
[14:12] <mongrol> email support lied to be saying it had already shipped
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[14:12] <mongrol> still, was $15 cheaper than farnell
[14:13] <pksato> raspberry PI cost for me arround US$80 on local farnell. :P
[14:13] <mongrol> ouch
[14:13] <mongrol> $54 here in Oz
[14:13] <ShiftPlusOne> mongrol, the trick with farnell/element14 is that they offer free shipping on orders over a certain amount. So it's cheaper to get a pi and a case, than a pi alone.
[14:13] <ShiftPlusOne> (in AUS)
[14:13] <mongrol> true
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[14:14] <mongrol> that works with a model B
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[14:14] <ShiftPlusOne> ah right
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[14:57] <CheckMatt> hi
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[15:02] <Zackio> Hmm, has anyone got BerryBoot to work on a miniSD card in a adapter?
[15:04] <ShiftPlusOne> There is nothing special about berryboot in regards to sd adapters O_o
[15:04] <Zackio> Hmm, okay.
[15:04] <ShiftPlusOne> Either the firmware and kernel load off the card, or they don't =/
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[15:09] <CheckMatt> I have a question : what tension is necessary to a raspberry pi (model b) alone without usb peripherals connected ?
[15:09] <ShiftPlusOne> tension? *current?
[15:10] <CheckMatt> Yeah, in mA
[15:10] <CheckMatt> not in V
[15:10] <ShiftPlusOne> I don't remember exactly, but I think it's around 300mA
[15:11] <CheckMatt> Ok, because here there is : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raspberry_Pi#Specifications Power ratings: 700 mA (3.5 W)
[15:12] <ShiftPlusOne> rating is not the same thing as consumption
[15:12] <CheckMatt> ah ! sorry i'm french, what's the difference ?
[15:12] <ShiftPlusOne> ratings usually refer to minimums and maximums
[15:13] <ShiftPlusOne> there is a polyfuse on the pi which limits the current into the pi to about 750mA
[15:13] <CheckMatt> ok. So, a keyboard and a raspberry only, a PSU of 700mA is good enough ?
[15:14] <ShiftPlusOne> If the PSU can actually deliver 5v at 700mA. Often they will say 700mA, but then the voltage is only 4V. So 1A is a safer option, but ideally 2A is preferable.
[15:15] <CheckMatt> Ok, there are no polyfuse on usb ports on the raspberry ?
[15:15] <ShiftPlusOne> Not anymore
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[15:15] <ShiftPlusOne> but remember that the current going through the USB ports passes through the main polyfuse.
[15:16] <CheckMatt> And the main polyfuse this is 1,5A ?
[15:16] <CheckMatt> *max ?
[15:16] <ShiftPlusOne> The polyfuse begins to trip at around 750mA
[15:17] <ShiftPlusOne> the resistance across the polyfuse will start to increase at that point
[15:18] <CheckMatt> Hm... ok, so you think the best is 5V, 2A ?
[15:18] <ShiftPlusOne> depends on the accuracy of the label. If it's a good supply that says 5V 1A, that's good enough.
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[15:19] <ShiftPlusOne> Are you going to use something like an HTC/Samsung/Apple phone charger or a cheap chinese supply?
[15:20] <CheckMatt> Yeah, I have a Samsung PSU from my old smartphone
[15:20] <CheckMatt> 5V, 700 mA
[15:20] <ShiftPlusOne> That should be fine, I think. If it's not, you'll know.
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[15:21] <CheckMatt> How ?
[15:21] <ShiftPlusOne> Well, if you run into problems, it's usually the power supply that's to blame.
[15:22] <CheckMatt> Ok, I will see. I will work only on console, so maybe if there is no X server, the CPU will work less, and maybe use less tension ?
[15:24] <ShiftPlusOne> the cpu usage does not make that much of a difference on the power consumption on the pi
[15:24] <CheckMatt> Ok thanks
[15:25] <ShiftPlusOne> np
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[15:45] <teme> Hello
[15:45] <teme> ShiftPlusOne, for my problem with printer, I have measured the tp1-tp2 voltage
[15:46] <teme> it's constant at 4.87 Volt
[15:46] <ShiftPlusOne> I forgot what happens. Does it reset or what?
[15:47] <teme> When I power on the printer, the network on raspberry is blocked
[15:47] <teme> this is the messages.log
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[15:47] <teme> http://pastebin.com/DUffyJqd
[15:48] <RavenII> Hahaha, compiling Qt5.1 on the RPi takes 38 hours...
[15:49] <ShiftPlusOne> teme, what do you have plugged into the pi other than the printer?
[15:50] <ShiftPlusOne> It sounds like a software issue rather than a power issue =/
[15:50] <teme> nothing
[15:50] <teme> it's a cups problem?
[15:50] <ShiftPlusOne> nuh, I am thinking the usb stack
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[15:51] <ShiftPlusOne> are you running an up to date system?
[15:51] <ShiftPlusOne> can you tell me what your cmdline.txt contains and what the output of uname -a is?
[15:52] <teme> pi@raspberrypi ~ $ uname -a
[15:52] <teme> Linux raspberrypi 3.6.11+ #474 PREEMPT Thu Jun 13 17:14:42 BST 2013 armv6l GNU/Linux
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[15:54] <teme> this is my cmdline.txt
[15:54] <teme> http://pastebin.com/CWESn8m0
[15:55] <ShiftPlusOne> nope, that's your config.txt
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[15:55] <teme> sorry :(
[15:55] <teme> dwc_otg.lpm_enable=0 console=ttyAMA0,115200 kgdboc=ttyAMA0,115200 console=tty1 root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 rootfstype=ext4 elevator=deadline rootwait
[15:55] <teme> it's the cmdline.txt :D
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[15:56] <ShiftPlusOne> I am not sure if this will help, but try dwc_otg.microframe_schedule=1 dwc_otg.lpm_enable=0 console=ttyAMA0,115200 kgdboc=ttyAMA0,115200 console=tty1 root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 rootfstype=ext4 elevator=deadline rootwait
[15:56] <ShiftPlusOne> and make sure your firmware is up to date
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[15:57] <teme> ShiftPlusOne, when I update my firmware?
[15:58] <teme> I have found this: https://github.com/Hexxeh/rpi-update/
[16:00] <ShiftPlusOne> If nothing helps, I'd suggest posting on the forum, providing all the info you have told me and a full dmesg log, not just the snippet. Dom usually notices such threads.
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[16:00] <ShiftPlusOne> and yeah, rpi-update is often used to update the firmware on raspbian, but just updating everything with apt-get should be enough.
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[16:04] <raptor67682> hey ... is it possible to plug this monitor
[16:04] <raptor67682> http://www.fredzone.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/papertab.jpg
[16:04] <raptor67682> for instance, the raspberry could be put on a fridge and stick this monitor on the fridge to use it
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[16:04] <ShiftPlusOne> not enough information, raptor67682
[16:04] <raptor67682> u could have recepties
[16:04] <raptor67682> maybe in some 5 - 10 years
[16:04] <raptor67682> this papertab has no hdmi
[16:05] <raptor67682> it would be a great future for the PI,... you create low end in C apps for papertab like + pi (mini/micro) machines
[16:05] <raptor67682> you could overcome google by making robots on all devices... imagine talking to your fridge to ask it, the weather, your todo list,... PI - POWERED ;)
[16:06] <SpeedEvil> You can't purcahse that display
[16:06] <SpeedEvil> Well - technically you can - buy the company
[16:06] <raptor67682> not yet ... wait samsung will buy it
[16:06] <raptor67682> or google or apples... giants are there
[16:07] <raptor67682> but 3M is fighting to take these things over for the future of tablet
[16:07] <raptor67682> man, if you guys, open source community, think about it... you can make $$, lot, in your pocket
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[16:07] <raptor67682> arm's and those toys that men don't really need makes a lot of money
[16:08] <SpeedEvil> Open source hardware is not simple.
[16:08] <Powermaniac> Hi, is the RaspberryPi open source?
[16:08] <ShiftPlusOne> Powermaniac, not entirely.
[16:08] <SpeedEvil> http://www.mauve.plus.com/opensourcehw.txt - something I wrote on this topic.
[16:09] <Powermaniac> ShiftPlusOne: Okay can you, or anyone else reading this point me in the direction of open source hardware that can run say Debian?
[16:09] <ShiftPlusOne> ShiftPlusOne, everything that runs on the ARM core is open source, the hardware schematics are available. No source or documentation for the GPU blobs and no pcb project files or anything like that.
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[16:10] <ShiftPlusOne> Powermaniac, I think beablebone black is more open, but I don't know if it's 100% open.
[16:11] <Powermaniac> ShiftPlusOne: Oh thanks! This looks like what I've been looking for.
[16:11] <ShiftPlusOne> have fun
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[17:08] <home> yo guys
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[17:11] <home> hey guys
[17:11] <home> any power usage scripts
[17:11] <home> I finally got a usb battery after months
[17:11] <home> lol
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[17:12] <ShiftPlusOne> The pi does not know how much power it uses
[17:13] <home> anything remotely power related?
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[17:13] <home> like come on, this is the raspberry pi I am talking about.
[17:13] <ShiftPlusOne> not without additional hardware, no.
[17:13] <gordonDrogon> yup, the RPi. So build yourself a little volt/current meter and hook it up to the GPIO :)
[17:14] <patagonicus> home: Here's a little bash script: powered_on() { return 0; }; if powered_on; then echo "I'm using power"; else echo "I'm not using power"; fi
[17:14] <ShiftPlusOne> >_<
[17:14] <sney> haha
[17:14] <home> LOL
[17:14] <patagonicus> I think that's the best you can do without extra hardware.
[17:14] <home> cooome on
[17:14] <home> something much deeper
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[17:16] <ShadowJK> Power use measuring chips are normally only ever included in mobile phones and tablets, and often not included on dev boards for mobile platforms.. rpi is pretty far away from both
[17:17] <ShadowJK> plus the minimalist approach
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[17:17] <opcode> electronics designed to be plugged in to the grid don't typically need to track their energy usage
[17:17] <opcode> their goal was small form factor
[17:18] <opcode> everything that wasn't deemed "important" was cut out
[17:18] <opcode> such as power measurement chips
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[17:19] <ShadowJK> Also rpi soc uses roughly the same magnitude of power no matter what you do on it :)
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[17:22] <gordonDrogon> the Pi SoC was really aimed at the set-top-box application too - so powered on 24/7 from the mains, so power isn't much of a concern.
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[17:22] <gordonDrogon> It's whats inside the Roku box for example. (AIUI)
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[17:38] <RavenII> Guys, when does compiling actually happen? When you do "./configure blahblah"? or Make?
[17:39] <gordonDrogon> make
[17:39] <gordonDrogon> but...
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[17:39] <gordonDrogon> the ./configure act often does a lot of "test" compiles too, but only to work out how the main make process will work.
[17:40] <raptor67682> would you know which mode active/unactive the USB in general?
[17:40] <raptor67682> on the pi
[17:40] <gordonDrogon> mode?
[17:40] <gordonDrogon> you can turn the USB on and off on the Pi if that's what you mean...
[17:41] <RavenII> gordonDrogon, gotcha...just trying to find out because I'm at the ./configure part of installing qt and was wondering how long it would take.
[17:41] <RavenII> thanks.
[17:41] <RavenII> (compiling takes 30+ hours apparently)
[17:42] <gordonDrogon> RavenII, yes, ./configure can take a while - it's testing various system libraries and it often does little compiles along the way.
[17:42] <RavenII> Gotcha, thanks
[17:43] <patagonicus> Over 30 hours? Wow, even GCC doesn't take that long on a RPi. I wonder how long LibreOffice would take.
[17:44] <gordonDrogon> I think LO took something like 3-4 days.
[17:45] <gordonDrogon> I did a cut-down kernel in 2.5 hours - I think the full foundation one needs about 5.
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[17:47] <patagonicus> Huh, I think the defconfig takes something like 10h. But I did compile on the SD card.
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[17:48] <RavenII> What sucks is that my over clock isn't working.
[17:48] <RavenII> I don't know if I could change the clock speeds while it's working or not.
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[18:32] <maalox> Hi cool people. I'm livestreaming from my pi on justin.tv, which means transcoding video4linux to flv. It looks like avconv can only handle about 5 fps at 640x480-- does anyone know of a faster transcoding solution?
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[18:40] <maalox> (it seems like openmax is what I'm looking for. although I'm still not sure about flv support)
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[19:27] <mick_laptop> I've been trying to get my SD card prepped w/ no availe. I'm using an 8GB SanDisk (30 m/s)
[19:28] <mick_laptop> first: fired up gparted. select SD card, format it as a FAT32
[19:28] <mick_laptop> hit the check box and I named it RASPBIAN
[19:28] <mick_laptop> exited gparted
[19:29] <mick_laptop> sudo dd if=2013-07-26-wheezy-raspbian.img of=/dev/sdb1 bs=1M
[19:29] <mick_laptop> then I ran "sudo sync"
[19:29] <mick_laptop> unmounted the card and I tested it in the pi and all I see is a red light
[19:30] <mick_laptop> I put it back in and run gparted to look at the partitions and it can't detect the fs on the SD card (?!)
[19:30] <gyeben> I compiled a version of Extreme Tux Racer that should support OpenGLES (https://github.com/RKSimon/extremetuxracer), but when I start it, I only get a black screen and a mouse cursor
[19:30] <keyvin> you shouldn't need to format the card before imaging it
[19:30] <keyvin> mick_laptop do you have the card mounted when you are imaging it?
[19:30] <mick_laptop> I tried mounted and unmounted
[19:31] <keyvin> try dd and omit the bs option
[19:31] <keyvin> nothing else
[19:31] <mick_laptop> I thought it should be unmounted
[19:31] <keyvin> just dd if=/blah.img of = /dev/sdb
[19:31] <keyvin> omit the partition number
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[19:31] <keyvin> you want to write to the entire device
[19:32] <mick_laptop> oh - stupid mistake
[19:32] <mick_laptop> thanks for catching that
[19:32] <mick_laptop> *facepalm*
[19:32] <keyvin> a second set of eyes can be super helpful :)
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[19:33] <mick_laptop> thanks again, I really appreciate it
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[21:46] <hht> hi what is wrong, i always get this error: kernel panic - not syncing vfs unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(8, 1)
[21:46] <hht> when i try to install rpi
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[21:47] <Xark> hht: Sounds like a problem with your SD card setup...
[21:48] <hht> i have 2 sd cards 1gb and 8gb tried on both of those cards first time worked on both, but now it doesnt work on both
[21:49] <Xark> hht: When did they stop working? If the RPi crashes it can corrupt the SD (especially if overclocking).
[21:49] <hht> after i tried install raspbmc on pendrive usb
[21:49] <hht> first time worked on pendrive usb , but after that i got this error
[21:49] <hht> i didnt overclock rpi
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[21:50] <Xark> OK, well, that error basically means "can't find your root filesystem", so either there is a problem with the media or (more likely I think), it is trying the "wrong" device.
[21:51] <Xark> hht: I suspect you need to edit your config.txt
[21:51] <hht> i have installed raspbmc
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[21:51] <hht> and always i try to reinstall raspbmc i got same error
[21:51] <hht> ..
[21:52] <Xark> hht: Sounds like an issue with that image or how you are installing it (i.e., configuration problem). I don't know about raspbmc, personally.
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[22:02] <Boydy> hi!
[22:02] <Boydy> anyone use onion pi here?
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[22:02] <gordonDrogon> prefer mine pie's
[22:02] <gordonDrogon> or mince. doh.
[22:04] <Boydy> heh
[22:06] <gordonDrogon> I'd need to look up 'onion pi' - is it the Tor client?
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[22:07] <Boydy> pretty much
[22:08] <gordonDrogon> not used any Tor stuff at all.
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[22:13] <patagonicus> Haven't used Onion Pi, but I know the basics of Tor if you have a question.
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[22:14] <Boydy> not really, just wondering if anyone uses one here
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[22:15] <patagonicus> Also, I'm not really sure how much you gain when you're using an Onion Pi (or Tor in general) with your default browser. Easy enough to track you with that, probably.
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[22:18] <zproc> Hello
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[22:19] <zproc> i had my root partition corrupted after the Pi went off without sudo halt, and since then i installed PiBang two times (i had a plain Raspbian before) and got somewhat similar errors relative to the filesystem… could this be and SD card problem?
[22:20] <zproc> an*
[22:20] <Boydy> yeh patagonicus, i use the included firefox which has everything disabled especially java
[22:20] <opcode> lol i just pull the power out when i'm done with my pi
[22:20] <Boydy> thinking of setting up an exit node and just sniffing everything coming out
[22:20] <opcode> sudo halt didn't even occur to me
[22:21] <patagonicus> zproc: Are you overclocking? Had some problems with that.
[22:21] <zproc> yeah i'm overclocking but had no problem before
[22:21] <zproc> also
[22:22] <zproc> with PiBang this time, on a Lapdock, the touchpad seems to be unresponsive sometimes
[22:22] <zproc> worked perfectly fine before
[22:22] <patagonicus> Boydy: Ah, ok. That sounds reasonable. But there may still be stuff left. If you want the best possible anonymity there's stuff like the Tails live linux. But it's not only the software, how you act and similar things are also important. Plus I know just enough to know that I need to learn more. :)
[22:23] <zproc> i guess i'm gonna install a plain Raspbian and see, and then install again on another SD card if the problem persists, it's weird
[22:23] <Boydy> yeh live boot will get rid of any cache stored on the local drive which is nice
[22:23] <patagonicus> zproc: Hmm, well, I've read about problems with the builtin card reader and overclocking plus I corrupted a root fs once, since then I didn't overclock my Pis anymore. Building a system that's supposed to run from RAM so that I can overclock as much as I want but that'll take a few weeks.
[22:24] <zproc> patagonicus: what kind of problems with the card reader? related to overclocking?
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[22:25] <zproc> and i have another weird problem on another Pi/sd card also… when apt-get update, updates some rpi-kernel hack something, each time it corrupts the boot partition, not very handy for a server
[22:26] <patagonicus> Yeah, I'm not sure what exactly it was, but when I left my Pi overclocked it just got I/O errors and couldn't use the card anymore. I think an fsck fixed it, but I disabled overclocking afterwards. I think it took a few days or weeks of uptime before it happened and there wasn't much I/O, so I'm not sure what caused it.
[22:26] <zproc> okay
[22:26] * [7] had similar crap happen without overclocking as well
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[22:27] <[7]> sd cards just aren't really designed for holding a root file system, and the pi isn't really famous for its stability either
[22:28] <zproc> is it worth trying to switch the OS on a flashdrive?
[22:28] <[7]> that, in combination with USB instability and ethernet being connected via USB, can make operating a pi in a stable fashion a fairly interesting problem
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[22:29] <[7]> not sure how badly the USB problems affect flash drives, but I'm having massive trouble with USB I/O errors, timeouts and lockups with other USB hardware
[22:29] <zproc> okay
[22:29] <patagonicus> From what I've heard USB should at least be a bit better than the SD card reader in terms of overclocking. But you'll still need to keep /boot on the SD card.
[22:29] <zproc> ah, yeah
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[22:32] <SrRaven> whats a good case that also supports attaching the pi-camera?
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[22:43] <gordonDrogon> PiBow have a camera add-on.
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[22:53] <zproc> related to what i was saying earlier, i used "RPi-sd card builder v1.2.app" for Mac each time for the two installs of PiBang and i recalled it closed with an error each time too… so it could have wrecked the writing of the images and thus explaining the failures after one reboot? or maybe not?
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[22:56] <zproc> hah, NOOB runs on OSX too?
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[23:11] <Rydekull> So, anyone got a good way to shrink an image taken from a 4GB sd-card to make it fit to another 4GB sd-card which is slightly less 4GB then the previous one :-)
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[23:12] <[7]> depends on how it's partitioned etc.
[23:13] <Rydekull> two partitions, 1 boot, 2 root
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[23:15] <[7]> please paste the output of "parted --script <imagefilename> unit s print"
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[23:15] <[7]> and another one with the same command run on the new SD card instead of the image file, with root permissions
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[23:29] <Rydekull> [7]: sorry for the delay
[23:29] <Rydekull> http://pastebin.com/y28qWssE
[23:31] <[7]> hm, so you'll need to resize the file system
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[23:32] <Rydekull> [7]: yeah, that's the issue
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[23:33] <[7]> sudo losetup -o 62914560 /dev/loop0
[23:33] <[7]> er, append the image file name to that
[23:33] <[7]> (or better a copy of it)
[23:34] <Rydekull> # losetup -f -o 62914560 pi-20130724.img
[23:34] <Rydekull> done
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[23:34] <[7]> sudo resize2fs /dev/loop0 7621632s
[23:36] <[7]> if that succeeded, sudo losetup -d /dev/loop0
[23:37] <Rydekull> done
[23:37] <[7]> then parted --script pi-20130724.img rm 2 mkpart primary ext4 122880s 7744511s unit s print
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[23:37] <Rydekull> done
[23:37] <[7]> what did it print?
[23:38] <Rydekull> 2 122880s 7744511s 7621632s primary ext4
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[23:38] <Rydekull> However
[23:38] <Rydekull> Disk pi-20130724.img: 7837696s
[23:38] <Rydekull> that remains large
[23:39] <[7]> so truncate it: dd if=/dev/zero of=pi-20130724.img bs=512 count=0 seek=7744512
[23:39] <Rydekull> http://pastebin.com/hWG3P2Lz
[23:39] <Rydekull> Oh
[23:39] <[7]> (in theory parted can resize filesystems itself, but resize2fs is supposed to be more stable)
[23:39] <Rydekull> So, that's the move that I left out on earlier then
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[23:39] * Rydekull tries to truncate it
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[23:40] <Rydekull> Disk pi-20130724.img: 7744512s
[23:41] <Rydekull> smooth, gonna try that now
[23:41] <[7]> (you could also have just dd'ed the non-truncated image to the new card, would have had the same effect)
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[23:41] <Rydekull> well
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[23:41] <Rydekull> I've tried that, though I used fdisk instead of parted
[23:41] <Rydekull> and that really failed
[23:42] <Rydekull> but, I never did truncate that
[23:42] <Rydekull> so I still had a faulty "total number of sectors" on the img
[23:42] <[7]> writing it to the smaller card effectively truncates it
[23:42] <[7]> the total number of sectors is just derived from the image file size
[23:44] <Rydekull> well, that still got me a "dd: writing to ‘/dev/mmcblk0’: No space left on device
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[23:44] <Rydekull> "
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[23:44] <Rydekull> before that is, trying a new dd now
[23:44] <Rydekull> I guess we'll see in... 20 minutes?
[23:44] <[7]> yes, that message is to be expected in that case. if you resized things properly before, it should work regardless
[23:44] <Rydekull> yeah I believe I did
[23:44] <Rydekull> still got an error on booting
[23:45] <Rydekull> So, I guess I didnt
[23:45] <Rydekull> :-)
[23:45] <Rydekull> But im feeling quite sure, like 90%+ sure I did
[23:45] <[7]> well, we'll see if it works better now :)
[23:45] <Rydekull> hehe, yeah
[23:45] <Rydekull> Im crossing my fingers
[23:45] <Rydekull> Just wish the dd would go faster...
[23:46] <[7]> yes, we definitely need a sparse imaging tool for this stuff :)
[23:46] <Rydekull> Speaking of which, seeing as im gonna try and duplicate this image over alot of cards
[23:46] <[7]> which doesn't write all that free space
[23:46] <Rydekull> is there a better way to make more sparse imaging
[23:46] <Rydekull> this is obviously a rough dd if of from a preexisting card
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[23:47] <[7]> depending on the amount of free space and number of files on the FS, it might be more efficient to just format it on every card and unpack a tarball to it
[23:47] <Rydekull> Hmm, yeah
[23:47] <Rydekull> might be indeed
[23:47] <Rydekull> faster at any rate
[23:48] <[7]> depends on how many useless write traffic is caused by FS bookkeeping operations
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[23:48] <Rydekull> My image is a plain raspbian with some additional packages and files at any rate
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[23:48] <Rydekull> specific to our need/project
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