#raspberrypi IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2013-09-04

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[0:15] <nmpro> anyone alive? ;-)
[0:16] <patagonicus> Diaoul: I think initramfs support is still named INITRD (as it's the same feature). CRAMFS is a compressed RAM fs, I think.
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[0:36] * IT_Sean is alive
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[1:04] <Sonny_Jim> Anyone good with sed?
[1:05] * BurtyB is sure someone is
[1:05] <Sonny_Jim> I have a text file full of messages like the following:
[1:05] <Sonny_Jim> 23:55-75 03/09/2013 23:54:48 INC 10062267 GRD 333389 386487<NUL
[1:06] <Sonny_Jim> I what to pipe the output through sed to strip everything bar the two 6 digit numbers after GRD
[1:06] <Sonny_Jim> But my sed-fu sucks
[1:06] <BurtyB> sed "s~GRD \(.*\) ~\1/" ?
[1:07] <BurtyB> sed "s~GRD \(.*\) ~\1~" even
[1:07] <Sonny_Jim> I've got my old faithful "Linux in a nutshell" book with a section on sed
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[1:07] <Sonny_Jim> I'll have a look at your command and see if I can work out what it does, thanks
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[1:09] <ozzzy> awk '{print $7 $8}'
[1:09] <ozzzy> perhaps
[1:10] <Sonny_Jim> The GRD numbers aren't always in the same place unfortunately
[1:10] <Sonny_Jim> or maybe they are, lemme check
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[1:10] <ozzzy> ahhh
[1:10] <Sonny_Jim> No they aren't, but they are always the last two 'words' before <NULL>
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[1:11] <ozzzy> awk '{print NF}' will return the number of fields... do some bash arithmetic on it to get the two fields you need
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[1:13] <Sonny_Jim> That's certainly one way
[1:13] * Sonny_Jim has a quick google
[1:13] <linuxstb> Or just awk '{print $(NF-1) $NF'
[1:13] <ozzzy> yep
[1:13] <linuxstb> With a } at the end
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[1:13] <Sonny_Jim> What's the difference between awk and sed (conceptully that is)
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[1:14] <ozzzy> different blades on the *nix swiss-army knife
[1:14] <Sonny_Jim> linuxstbs command is close but the output is like this:
[1:14] <Sonny_Jim> 373111431772<NUL><NUL>
[1:14] <linuxstb> I've never really used sed, just awk. awk is a full programming language, designed around processing delimited text files
[1:15] <CeilingKitten> awk and sed are nightmare-ish fore newbies xD but once you get used to it its really handy
[1:15] <CeilingKitten> I saved common command phrases as aliases
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[1:15] <Sonny_Jim> I suppose it's bit like vim, once you get used to it, you can't imagine using anything else
[1:16] <linuxstb> Sonny_Jim: Maybe '{print $(NF-1),($NF)*1}'
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[1:17] <Sonny_Jim> bingo! Thanks linuxstb, works like a charm
[1:17] <CeilingKitten> i actually got a weebit annoyed with it since i could just load text files into editpad light and do regex editing in a form window, sooo easy, but the more you use ssh the more you will learn to love these crazy commands =)
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[1:17] <Sonny_Jim> Ideally I should of at least had a go at working it out myself but you know how it is
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[1:17] <Sonny_Jim> I believe the phrase used by pilots would be Crew Resource Management, make full use of whats around you :-)
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[1:18] <Firehopper> I dont like VI
[1:18] <Firehopper> I prefer nano
[1:18] <Sonny_Jim> Aquired taste, and vi gets on my nerves
[1:18] <Sonny_Jim> nano doesn't do syntax highlighting and auto-complete afaik
[1:18] <Firehopper> vi is the only thing on my scope..
[1:19] <Firehopper> so when I hacked the scope I had to use it
[1:19] <Marvin-RPi> vi is available on any distro, nano might not be default in some distro's
[1:19] <Sonny_Jim> And how on earth I ever used the cli without screen I don't know
[1:19] <Firehopper> had to edit the logotype and logotype.dis files :)
[1:19] <Marvin-RPi> that's why it's always good to know how vi works
[1:19] <Sonny_Jim> It should be the second thing people learn after rm/ls/mkdir etc
[1:20] <Sonny_Jim> oh pretty much every distro I've used had nano
[1:20] <Sonny_Jim> Only a very select few didn't, like the uber-small busybox ones
[1:20] <Marvin-RPi> but yes, nano works easier for sure
[1:22] <Sonny_Jim> I never liked the keyboard shortcuts though
[1:22] <Sonny_Jim> Ctrl-O is save?
[1:22] <Sonny_Jim> I know it's writeOut, but still
[1:22] <Sonny_Jim> At least it tells you at the bottom what they are, unlike vim
[1:24] <Sonny_Jim> Next issue I have now is convince sqlite3 that I only want the distinct GRDs, ie no duplicates
[1:24] * Sonny_Jim goes to fiddle
[1:24] <Sonny_Jim> select distinct message from messages where message like '% GRD %';
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[1:24] <Sonny_Jim> Doesn't seem to do what I expect it to
[1:25] <Sonny_Jim> Oh I know, it's because the same GRD can be there twice with a different timestamp at the start
[1:25] <Sonny_Jim> So the message is distinct but the GRD isn't
[1:26] <Sonny_Jim> Damn you Ordance Survey and your wierdo coord system!
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[2:04] <Marvin-RPi> I need to rar and unrar files. Tried adding multiverse repository, but didn't work. Any suggestions?
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[2:06] <Marvin-RPi> so far any multiverse repo is for i386 and amd64 only. Is there a multiverse repo for ARM?
[2:07] <Sonny_Jim> Doesn't 7zip handle rar?
[2:07] <linuxstb> Marvin-RPi: The unrar-free package should work for unraring (mostly…) Isn't rar closed-source?
[2:07] <Sonny_Jim> Might not create rar though
[2:08] <Marvin-RPi> yes it is, but i was wondering if someone came across the same problem
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[2:10] <pksato> multiverse is not for ubuntu? have ubuntu to rpi?
[2:10] <Marvin-RPi> ubuntu is debian
[2:11] <pksato> NOT is.
[2:12] <linuxstb> Ubuntu doesn't support the Pi's ARM CPU though, so there won't be a ubuntu repository with compatible packages.
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[2:13] <Marvin-RPi> allright, fair enough.. time to stop wasting my time ;-)
[2:15] <linuxstb> I guess it's pointless to suggest not using rar?
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[2:19] <Marvin-RPi> ehm... yes. does usenet ring a bell ?
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[2:54] <Coburn> weird
[2:54] <Coburn> raspbmc isn't detecting my mouse
[2:54] <Coburn> is it possible to reset a r-pi using a jumper or something?
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[2:55] <Coburn> Or do I just pull the power?
[2:55] <sney> pull the power, won't hurt it
[2:55] <pksato> Coburn: if you have a rev2, yes.
[2:55] <Coburn> well, I have a Model B and it's "Made in the UK" stamped
[2:55] <pksato> Model A or B, rev 2
[2:55] <Coburn> Revision F apparently
[2:56] <Coburn> How do I tell?
[2:56] <pksato> have holes?
[2:57] <Coburn> affirmative
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[2:57] <pksato> have a unpopulated 2 pins jumper
[2:58] <pksato> P6
[2:58] <Coburn> looking
[2:58] <pksato> http://raspi.tv/2012/making-a-reset-switch-for-your-rev-2-raspberry-pi
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[2:58] <Coburn> yes
[2:58] <Coburn> found them
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[3:11] <pksato> new companions to rpi http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/9011/zgy8.jpg
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[3:17] <ShorTie> don't ya just love christmas time
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[3:26] <Coburn> wow
[3:26] <Coburn> 58 FPS on RaspBMC
[3:26] <Coburn> That's with VSync off
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[3:29] <PReDiToR> Did I read somewhere that we can only see about 23 FPS?
[3:29] <PhotoJim> sounds about right.
[3:30] <PReDiToR> But we have _great_ resolution.
[3:32] <Coburn> well, don't our eyes have retina screens built in? :P
[3:33] <Sonny_Jim> it's 14fps
[3:33] <PReDiToR> Aye. Or maybe Eye.
[3:33] <Sonny_Jim> You need to double it due to flicker from CRTs
[3:34] <Sonny_Jim> Or did should I say
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[3:42] <Stevesy> hello
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[4:04] <buzzsaw> is there an inexpensive usb hub that would be reccomended?
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[4:08] <pksato> inexpensive hub? $1.74 is ?
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[6:33] <heathkid> 14fps???
[6:33] <heathkid> no
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[6:35] <Lejoni> huh?
[6:36] <heathkid> a few hours ago
[6:36] <heathkid> nevermind
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[7:35] <JlRd> Does anyone know of a soft-float based Linux distro for RPi? Raspbian soft-float seems to have disappeared...
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[7:38] <Lejoni> damn not even 3sec is enough delay
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[7:41] <j4jackj> PhotoJim, I've set up an internet radio station.
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[8:08] <Deadlights> Nice work, j4jackj .
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[8:14] <j4jackj> Deadlights: how?
[8:14] <j4jackj> Some of the music is not my own.
[8:15] <j4jackj> This station is just a mixtape.
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[8:22] <millerii> who is using marlin fw with lcd, what means in main screen "FR"?
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[8:26] <millerii> after that follows changeable percent value that has default 100%
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[8:30] <millerii> f**ck wrong channel :)
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[8:59] <remib> Hi
[9:00] <remib> Just to be sure; Does it hurt the rpi hardware to unplug the power while running ?
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[9:01] <ShiftPlusOne> No, you just risk corrupting the sd card.
[9:01] <ShiftPlusOne> So if you care about your data, don't do it.
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[9:02] <remib> Mmh, sometimes raspbmc freezes and I don't see any other solution
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[9:03] <ShiftPlusOne> Is it just a raspbmc problem or do other distros freeze as well?
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[9:03] <remib> Don't know, haven't really tested anything else than raspbmc.
[9:04] <ShiftPlusOne> hm
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[9:04] <remib> But it seems the current limit of the adapter can be a cause of problems
[9:04] <ShiftPlusOne> current limit?
[9:04] <bacobart> amps
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[9:04] <remib> yeah
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[9:05] <ShiftPlusOne> ...the current rating, I am guessing.
[9:05] <remib> (I'm not a native speaker)
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[9:06] <ShiftPlusOne> ah
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[9:07] <Lejoni> My router is powering my pi :)
[9:07] <remib> I've got an alimentation that gives 5v 3amp but has a barrel connector, is there no risk to solder a mini/micro usb to the barrel connector and to use this one ?
[9:08] <ShiftPlusOne> remib, what's your current supply?
[9:08] <remib> Right now it's 1amp
[9:08] <ShiftPlusOne> If it's not lying, that should be good enough
[9:08] <ShiftPlusOne> and it should cause freezing
[9:08] <ShiftPlusOne> Do you have a multimeter?
[9:08] <remib> nope
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[9:09] <ShiftPlusOne> ah well
[9:09] <remib> I can test wether it's lying with a multimeter ?
[9:10] <ShiftPlusOne> Not so much the current, but the voltage. Sometimes you get losses in the cable or the supply doesn't provide a steady 5v, so you end up with much less than 5v at the pi.
[9:10] <opcode> bear in mind that a dirty solder will incur additional voltage drop
[9:12] <remib> ok, I won't try then. Thanks !
[9:12] <ShiftPlusOne> There's no problem modifying the cable, it's just there is no point unless you know the current supply is a problem.
[9:15] <Lejoni> remib: do you run the pi overclock with overvoltage?
[9:15] <remib> nope.
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[9:15] <Lejoni> or do you have many things connected to USB without a powered hub?
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[9:17] <remib> yep, a mouse and a thumb drive
[9:17] <Lejoni> just that should not be a problem though
[9:18] <Lejoni> for me the pi is very stable. But I run Rasbian
[9:18] <Lejoni> Raspian
[9:18] <ShiftPlusOne> almost there... *Raspbian
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[9:18] <Lejoni> yeah Im tired
[9:19] <Lejoni> I have it OC to 800MHz and it is powered by the USB port on my Router
[9:19] <remib> I mostly want to use my rpi as a media center and it seemed that raspbian isn't the best option for this
[9:19] <Lejoni> Yeah I use mine as a server
[9:19] <Lejoni> Runs my Mumble server and this irssi in a screen
[9:19] <ShiftPlusOne> remib, maybe give openelec a go.
[9:20] <remib> Is the package coverage as good ?
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[9:22] <ShiftPlusOne> package coverage?
[9:22] <remib> Are there as many packages as easily installable
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[9:22] <ShiftPlusOne> no idea
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[9:24] <ShiftPlusOne> I am not sure why a media center would need a lot of 'packages'. There are addons for things like youtube and other stuff you would expect like a torrent client and whatnot. But I have no idea, I run arch.
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[9:25] <Lejoni> remib: If I remember right there is 2 diffrent distros for xbmc
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[9:25] <remib> That's my problem. The main goal is to have a working media center. But I'd also like it to serve as a web server, ssh server and maybe mail.
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[9:25] <ShiftPlusOne> Lejoni, raspbmc, openelec and xbian are the main ones.
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[9:26] <Lejoni> ShiftPlusOne: ah xbian was the other one I thought of. did not know openelec was xbmc
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[9:26] <Lejoni> remib: maybe you should try xbian then?
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[9:27] <ShiftPlusOne> If you're running an OS that freezes and you have to yank the power out, running a server on it is not a good idea, so all those packages don't do you much good.
[9:28] <ShiftPlusOne> but again, we don't know what's causing it yet. If it's a hardware issue that will occur no matter what you run, openelec makes the most sense, since it's a read-only rootfs distro.
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[9:29] <remib> Mmh, I didn't really see the freezes as a problem since it happened not many times, I thought it was a raspbmc problem. Xbian seems better than raspbmc.
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[9:46] <remib> Thanks for the help, i'll install xbian and see what it gives
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[11:04] <gordonDrogon> morning Pi Peeps.
[11:04] <ShorTie> mornin
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[11:48] <tig|> 'nings
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[11:50] <ShiftPlusOne> 'y
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[12:03] <snoshers> Where are the program files stored on raspian?
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[12:04] <ShiftPlusOne> p...program files?
[12:04] <ShiftPlusOne> What file are you after?
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[12:05] <snoshers> Efg. Python module files
[12:05] <snoshers> *e.g.
[12:05] <ShiftPlusOne> take a look at this page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard
[12:05] <ShorTie> you know the name of the file your looking for ??
[12:05] <ShiftPlusOne> It might not answer your question, but it should tell you why your question is too windowsey to make sense.
[12:06] <snoshers> Go on
[12:06] <snoshers> I was born in the world of windows
[12:06] <ShorTie> you can use 'locate putnamehear' and it will find it
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[12:10] <ShiftPlusOne> snoshers, take a look at the page I just linked, specifically the directory structure part. Linux doesn't organise files the way windows does. I don't know enough about python to answer the modules question, but if you know the filename or a part of the filename of what you're looking for, you can find it.
[12:10] <snoshers> OK thanks
[12:11] <ShiftPlusOne> Sorry that doesn't help you. If you need me to be unhelpful about something else though, I am always here.
[12:11] * ShorTie snickers
[12:12] <ShiftPlusOne> =)
[12:12] * ShorTie still gives ShiftPlusOne a browny point
[12:12] <Davespice> have we got any PC gamers in here? I know this is off topic, but I need advice on graphics cards
[12:13] <ShiftPlusOne> Davespice, what are you after?
[12:13] <Davespice> well... I currently use a Nvidia 8800 GTS and have been since about 2007
[12:13] <ShorTie> graphic cards are eazy
[12:13] <ShorTie> buy the best you can afford
[12:14] <ShiftPlusOne> I tend to consult http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/graphics-cards,1.html before buying them
[12:14] <Davespice> I have a Azus P5B mobo, which I think has a PCIe version 1 slot on it... and I want to upgrade the graphics card but I am not sure about the whole PCIe version situation, most of the new cards on offer now say PCIe version 3
[12:14] <Davespice> I'd like to upgrade without having to replace the whole mobo
[12:14] <ShiftPlusOne> I usually set a budget and find the best one within that budget based on tomshardware. Not much to it.
[12:14] <ShorTie> i've just been going with the AMD's APU, they are great
[12:15] <gordonDrogon> woa!
[12:15] <gordonDrogon> I've just ditched an AMD APU board because I can't make it work under Linux.
[12:15] <Davespice> so I need to know if I can use PCIe 3 hardware on a PCIe 1 slot, are they backwardly compatible?
[12:15] <workingcats> davesleep, dont worry about the PCIe version
[12:15] <ShorTie> no
[12:16] <workingcats> they are compatible, and the speed should be more than enough even with PCIe1
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[12:16] <Davespice> davesleep? pardon?
[12:16] <workingcats> tabfail
[12:16] <Davespice> ah!
[12:17] <Davespice> okay, so you're sure about that?
[12:17] <Davespice> ShorTie: says no?
[12:17] <workingcats> quite, but i also just looked on the wikipedia page and it confirms my view
[12:17] <Davespice> oh right
[12:17] <workingcats> oh i thought that was for someone else
[12:17] <workingcats> ShorTie, what was the no for?
[12:17] <Davespice> okay cool, so I should just be able to buy a new GFX card and carry on :)
[12:18] <ShorTie> well, i would at least read the manual and see if it specifically says it will work
[12:18] <ShiftPlusOne> Davespice, this is the page I was thinking of http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-graphics-card-review,3107-8.html
[12:18] <Davespice> I backed StarCitizen and they just released the hangar demo, and it needs 1GB of GPU Ram, and I think my current one has only 256
[12:18] <ShorTie> i would not assume it does, so i say no, lol.
[12:19] <workingcats> well they're designed for compatibility. i'd just go ahead and assume it's fine *shrugs*
[12:19] <Davespice> cool
[12:20] <Davespice> well... the StarCitizen hangar demo is the first thing to not run on my machine since I bought it in 2007
[12:20] <workingcats> 1G graphics memory? wow lol
[12:20] <Davespice> everything else apart from the DVD drive has been replaced so its time for an upgrade
[12:20] * ShiftPlusOne only upgrades when the magic smoke comes out >.>
[12:21] <Davespice> yeah and that is just for an "walking around inside your ship" demo
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[12:21] <workingcats> hehe
[12:21] <workingcats> well back to fixing this **** browser ^^
[12:21] <ShiftPlusOne> Davespice, crysis engine if I recall correctly, right?
[12:21] <Davespice> they're using stupid levels of facets in that game apparently
[12:21] <Davespice> yes I think so
[12:21] <Davespice> I need to upgrade anyway because I also backed E:D and Aow3 is out in Jan 2014
[12:22] <ShiftPlusOne> If you upgrade now, whatever you get will be too slow to run stuff that comes out in 2014 >=/
[12:22] * ShiftPlusOne grumbles about never having a graphics card that can run current gen games for more than a few months.
[12:22] <workingcats> lol?
[12:23] <workingcats> if you buy graphics cards for 30 or 50� maybe
[12:23] <workingcats> or if you want hex screens at full HD hehe
[12:23] <Davespice> so this is the one I am thinking about; http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00C1XK95U
[12:23] <ShiftPlusOne> workingcats, yeah, I tend to cheap out.
[12:24] <workingcats> ShiftPlusOne, well if you buy a card that can only barely handle current games, ofc it'll struggly with games of current+1y ;)
[12:24] <workingcats> tho it's quite possibly still cheaper to do it this way
[12:24] <Davespice> I'm happy to run games on minimum detail though
[12:25] <ShiftPlusOne> It's cheaper for me, since I don't upgrade unless I really have to. My radeon HD5700 is still good enough for the games I am into.
[12:25] <Davespice> I bought my original rig for LOTRO and I used to play that on low detail for a better framerate
[12:25] <workingcats> i'm happy with my HD3200 ^^
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[12:43] <Robbilie> can anybody uggest a server for the pi which allows to stream musik and videos to from mobile devices and others? preferably with apps... so media is oon the clients, not the server(pi)
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[12:46] <Geniack_> Robbilie: if you install xbmc, it lets you stream UPnP/AirStream
[12:46] <Robbilie> to the pi or from the pi?
[12:46] <Geniack_> to the pi
[12:47] <Geniack_> but it should work the other way also
[12:47] <Robbilie> hm any smaller way? :)
[12:47] <Geniack_> sure
[12:47] <Geniack_> first decide which protocol you want to use
[12:47] <Geniack_> then look for some linux daemon that supports that
[12:47] <workingcats> Robbilie, not quite what you asked, but i'd just mount a network share and play the files
[12:48] <Robbilie> no that would require interaction with the pi by hand (launch the files) :(
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[12:49] <bacobart> http://blog.scphillips.com/2013/01/a-upnp-renderer-for-the-raspberry-pi
[12:49] <bacobart> read that;)
[12:49] <tig|> Robbilie: you can set up the pi as a upnp rendered
[12:50] <tig|> bacobart: just as I was starting to type it out :)
[12:50] <Robbilie> haha just found this link too :)
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[12:50] <bacobart> seems a headless upnp renderer for linux is mia
[12:51] <bacobart> or atleast not very functional
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[12:51] <bacobart> i know squeezebox supports upnp but i'm not sure if it'll run on rpi
[12:51] <Robbilie> welll i would just like to play music and maybe videos
[12:51] <bacobart> if you want videos too then you'll need something like xbmc
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[12:56] <aep> Robbilie: upnp renderer are fairly simple. you could hack one in a day
[12:56] <aep> all you need it something that handles upnp urls and gives them to mplayer
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[13:27] <MrVector> I've got the start of a bare metal OS, when I run it, the screen turns off after a while, I guess this is because my OS isn't telling the screen to stay awake. Any pointers on how this is done in a bare metal environment?
[13:28] <MrVector> (I am drawing to screen but that does not always seem to matter)
[13:30] <ShiftPlusOne> Are you following the cambridge tutorials?
[13:31] <ShorTie> i'd look towards the acpi power setting in your os
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[13:31] <ShiftPlusOne> ACPI? On a pi? O_o
[13:32] <ShorTie> he didn't specify os, it might be inherent
[13:32] <ShiftPlusOne> wah?
[13:33] <MrVector> ShiftPlusOne, not really no :)
[13:33] <ShiftPlusOne> MrVector, I'd use their examples as a reference to find what's wrong.
[13:34] <MrVector> It's very possible I've done something similar to it, I have looked at it for reference, but mine is in C so it's not straight forward :)
[13:34] <ShiftPlusOne> At that level, c and asm isn't too different.
[13:34] <chris_99> oh is the cambridge tut in asm
[13:35] <MrVector> chris_99 yes
[13:35] <MrVector> This is true, ShiftPlusOne. Thing is I've read the baking pi tutorials a few times, and I can't recall anything about keeping the monitor alive
[13:35] <MrVector> Not even a mention of it, so I dont have much to go on in terms of tracking it down
[13:36] <ShiftPlusOne> Well, I have no idea myself.
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[13:39] <MrVector> It's a strange issue :) Not really holding me back (right now), I've got plenty of other things to work on
[13:39] <Mortvert> but pi doesn't have ACPI :(
[13:39] <MrVector> Just curious as it's a pretty interesting issue
[13:39] <MrVector> I guess I'll re-read the reference manual, see if there's any mention of it
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[13:41] <ShorTie> just write up a little chrown thing to vertually move the mouse like every 5 minutes
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[13:42] * ShiftPlusOne hands ShorTie some coffee.
[13:42] <MrVector> ShorTie, it doesn't sup[port mouse yet :D
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[13:42] <ShorTie> workin on my 3'rd 20 ozer, but thankz
[13:42] <ShiftPlusOne> ShorTie, bare metal being the keywords there.
[13:43] <ShorTie> ssimulate a key press then, hehe.
[13:44] <ShiftPlusOne> Alright, I give up >.>
[13:46] <ShorTie> is this your own kernel or store got ??
[13:46] <chris_99> don't all OSs tend to run on bare metal ;)
[13:46] <ShorTie> check the Power management options in your kernel config
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[13:47] <ShiftPlusOne> ShorTie, this isn't linux, he's writing his own OS >_<
[13:48] <ShorTie> ok, maybe he needs to add it then
[13:48] <ShorTie> but anyways, i'm out, got court to go too..
[13:48] <ShiftPlusOne> best of luck
[13:50] <ShorTie> see if we get grandson back
[13:50] <ShorTie> Thankz
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[14:04] <future28> Hey all! Is there a way to make a raspberry pi visible to connect to as an ad-hoc network?
[14:04] <future28> So it broadcasts as it's own SSID and is basically waiting on a connection.
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[14:16] <workingcats> chris_99, well, there is virtualisation ;)
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[14:20] <chris_99> indeed, but any OS that can run virtualised normally can run on some bare metal too
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[14:20] <Kane> salut
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[14:21] <ShiftPlusOne> There has been talk of an OS written entirely in java (can you imagine the monstrosity)... I suppose it would need a bare metal VM and then it would run on top of the VM
[14:21] <chris_99> haha
[14:21] <chris_99> that'd be interesting to say the least
[14:22] <chris_99> you can probably create a JVM on an FPGA/ASIC i guess
[14:22] <snoshers> I was fixing a corrupted drive and I copied the usr and home folders onto my new installation however when I boot my pi it has no permission for the /use/shin folder so won't start
[14:22] <snoshers> */use/sbin
[14:23] <snoshers> */usr/sbin -Thanks Google keyboard
[14:24] <workingcats> chris_99, i believe those exist
[14:25] <workingcats> snoshers, how did you copy it?
[14:25] <workingcats> chris_99, machines that can execute java bytecode i mean. financial services sector, as usual for this kinda insanity hehe
[14:25] <snoshers> Standard copy on Ubuntu live cd
[14:25] <workingcats> standard copy?
[14:26] <chris_99> yeah i think they do too workingcats
[14:26] <snoshers> Just copy and paste in nautilus
[14:26] <workingcats> ah, i doubt that copies permissions
[14:27] <workingcats> you can do it from a shell, this should do: cp -a /source/usr /target/
[14:27] <snoshers> Ok
[14:27] <workingcats> (careful with the /, there isnt one after usr, but there is one after target)
[14:28] <snoshers> Ok
[14:28] <workingcats> like if the source is mounted as /mnt/old, and the target is mounted /mnt/new, the command would be cp -a /mnt/old/usr /mnt/new/
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[14:30] <troulouliou_dev> hi can i power the pi from a computer usb port without tisk ?
[14:30] <troulouliou_dev> risk
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[14:31] <workingcats> troulouliou_dev, depending on the USB port the worst that _should_ be possible is that the pi is unstable or doesnt work
[14:31] <pksato> no, rpi can overload usd port, and trip system alert and disable power on the port.
[14:31] <workingcats> ah, then i was wrong
[14:32] <pksato> but, most desktop main board dont have usb power supervision circuit.
[14:32] <troulouliou_dev> pksato, i have a power usb port or something like this on my laptop, this can happen even with this one ?
[14:32] <troulouliou_dev> pksato, so it will fry ?
[14:32] <pksato> no smoke.
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[14:33] <MrVector> Argh! I know I've asked this before, but I really can't find it (again) :S IIRC there are 3 reference pdfs for the Pi, one ARM that covers the cpu and it's features, then a bcm2835 manual that covers gpio, interrupts, timer, audio etc. But I think there's also a manual that covers stuff like the gpu.
[14:33] <troulouliou_dev> pksato, so it is not recomended ?
[14:33] <MrVector> Does this exist or am I imagining things? I really can't seem to find it :(
[14:33] <pksato> but, some cheap notebook dont have any overload protection.
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[14:34] <pksato> troulouliou_dev: USB power are specified to 500mA. RPi model B need little more.
[14:35] <troulouliou_dev> pksato, ok thanks
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[14:35] <pksato> or, can combine power of two usb ports to get more power, like on some external HDs.
[14:36] <MrVector> pksato, how true is that though, I'm using a usb to serial cable that powers my pi from my laptops usb
[14:36] <troulouliou_dev> pksato, even with overclocking + overvolt ?
[14:37] <pksato> use of computer USB port is suggested to test RPi on case of power issues.
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[14:38] <pksato> desktop main boards use 1.6A polyfuse for every two usb ports.
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[14:41] <ShiftPlusOne> troulouliou_dev, are you planning to plug usb devices into the pi running from your pc's usb port?
[14:42] <troulouliou_dev> ShiftPlusOne, yes one usb to ethernet device
[14:42] <ShiftPlusOne> O_o you mean the one that's already on the board?
[14:43] <troulouliou_dev> I m planning to use one of my pi as a hardware tor proxy when travelling / working in some countries
[14:43] <troulouliou_dev> ShiftPlusOne, no an additional one
[14:43] <ShiftPlusOne> hm
[14:43] <ShiftPlusOne> How much do those normally draw? 'cause the one on the pi is a huge power hog
[14:44] <troulouliou_dev> ShiftPlusOne, as pksato warned i guess from a classic usb port it won't work , however one one of my laptop i have a special "power usb" port i m just checking the specifications to post the exact specifications
[14:45] <troulouliou_dev> and check if this one is ok
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[14:45] <pksato> oh yes, some notebook have a special port to charge phones.
[14:45] <ShiftPlusOne> It should be fine, since the pi won't draw more than about 800mA anyway, so even using one of those splitter cables should be ok
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[14:45] <workingcats> troulouliou_dev, those should be at least 1A, that should be perfectly fine i think
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[14:49] <troulouliou_dev> workingcats, will test all that thanks everybody
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[14:49] <workingcats> ShiftPlusOne, splitter cables?
[14:50] <ShiftPlusOne> workingcats, the type that comes with things like external hard drives.
[14:50] <pksato> and, on some cases, device need to request high power (500mA) from usb port.
[14:50] <workingcats> ah ok
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[14:57] <pksato> need one of this, but with micro usb, not mini. http://www.hdsentinel.com/img/cases/usb-y-cable.gif
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[15:22] <clutch_> can I use raspberrypi for bandwidth shaper between two computers and internet?
[15:23] <workingcats> clutch_, sure
[15:24] <workingcats> tho its called traffic shaper i think
[15:24] <clutch_> is there some tutorial
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[15:25] <Sonny_Jim> A standard linux tutorial should do
[15:26] <Lejoni> Would you not need 2 NICs for that?
[15:26] <IT_Sean> Actually... three. One for each PC, and one for The Innernet. Right?
[15:26] <IT_Sean> That's going to be a bit of a bottleneck.
[15:26] <Lejoni> Well you could put a switch on the one for the PCs
[15:26] <Sonny_Jim> Not if the Pi is setup as the gateway
[15:27] <IT_Sean> Ah.
[15:27] <IT_Sean> Fair point.
[15:27] <tig|> was going to say you only need two nics but the pi is not the best device for this as the throughput will be poor
[15:27] <IT_Sean> Still... adding a2nd nic is going to cause a bit of a bottleneck.
[15:27] <clutch_> i dont want it to be the gateway. does it have to?
[15:27] <Lejoni> the second nic would have to be on USB then
[15:28] <Sonny_Jim> Why don't you want it to be the gateway?
[15:28] <IT_Sean> Lejoni: Yeah, which would mean BOTH would, effectivly, be sharing the USB bus.
[15:28] <Lejoni> IT_Sean: yeah
[15:28] <Sonny_Jim> How is the Pi supposed to manage the traffic if it isn't responsible for it
[15:28] <IT_Sean> ^ that
[15:28] <IT_Sean> If you want the Pi to manage the traffic, it has to sit in the middle of said traffic, i.e. be the gateway.
[15:30] <Lejoni> Well you could possibly set the Pi as a proxy with trafic shaping with only one NIC
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[15:32] <Lejoni> Essentially have the Pi connect to the same Switch as everything else and just set the Pi as proxy on the other devises and in whatever gateway you use only allow incomming/outgoing for the Pi. Unless the clients cheating is not a problem
[15:32] <workingcats> well you can do it with one card. then the clients could bypass the traffic shaping by manual config tho
[15:32] <IT_Sean> ^ wot ;e said
[15:32] <workingcats> with 2 cards you can prevent that (have 1 connected to a switch/hub, ofc)
[15:33] <Lejoni> if the "modem" has a builtin gateway you can set it to only allow the Pi trafic through the WAN
[15:33] <Lejoni> all other LAN has to go through the Pi
[15:33] <workingcats> Lejoni, not very secure, but possible
[15:34] <Sonny_Jim> If it's just to stop flatmates from killing bandwidth with bittorrent it should do
[15:34] <Lejoni> aye
[15:34] <workingcats> unless they're nasty you can just use one nic. depends on the level of security you need
[15:36] <Lejoni> I bought coling flenses for my Pi today
[15:36] <Lejoni> How high has anyone here gotten it to run stable with passive cooling?
[15:36] <workingcats> people use cooling on pis? ^^
[15:36] <IT_Sean> your raspi does NOT need additional cooling. (-_-)
[15:36] <Lejoni> For overclocking
[15:37] <IT_Sean> Ahh
[15:37] <workingcats> but this reminds me
[15:37] <workingcats> say i wanna mount a pi on the back of a monitor
[15:38] <workingcats> will it be safe (at stock speeds, with the PSU external), if it's just in an enclosed small plastic case?
[15:38] <IT_Sean> workingcats: Yes.
[15:38] <workingcats> also, does it have temp sensors?
[15:38] <IT_Sean> Yes
[15:38] <IT_Sean> It has
[15:38] <IT_Sean> And it will throttle / shut down if it gets too hot.
[15:38] <workingcats> oh really? nice
[15:38] <IT_Sean> Yes.
[15:38] <Lejoni> workingcats: I'm goin to put mine on the back of my router. Guess how! :D
[15:38] <IT_Sean> Unless you have OC's it, that should not be an issue.
[15:38] <workingcats> didnt expect that in this class of device
[15:39] <Lejoni> I found the ultimate solution to put a caseless Pi on the back of anything that is bigger than the Pi itself :)
[15:40] <Lejoni> a cheap cellphone holder for carrs dashboard :D
[15:40] <Lejoni> cars
[15:40] <Lejoni> It's perfect for holding my Pi and can easy be attached to any flat surface with dubbletape :D
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[15:41] <Lejoni> The USB on my router (and my TV as well if I wanted that) is powerfull enough to drive the Pi. so just 2 cords from the Pi to the router :)
[15:43] <Lejoni> How much have you guys managed to overclock your Pi's without any additional cooling?
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[15:45] <Sonny_Jim> I can't overclock mine
[15:45] <Sonny_Jim> Filesystem craps itself everytime
[15:46] <Lejoni> Sonny_Jim: nothing at all?
[15:46] <Sonny_Jim> tbh I'm so fed up of reinstalling everytime I just leave it as is
[15:47] <Sonny_Jim> I tried various settings, none of which were stable
[15:47] <Lejoni> not even 800Mhz?
[15:47] <Sonny_Jim> Too scared to change it now
[15:47] <Sonny_Jim> So I just leave it as is, it's not like I use it for gaming or anything
[15:47] <Sonny_Jim> ymmv
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[15:48] <Lejoni> Sonny_Jim: I just use mine as a Server. Mumble and ssh-shell
[15:48] <Sonny_Jim> Then really you don't need to overclock it
[15:49] <Sonny_Jim> Bearing in mind oc'ing will shorten chip life as well
[15:49] <Sonny_Jim> well, in theory anyway
[15:49] <IT_Sean> No. OV'ing will shorten chip life.
[15:49] <Lejoni> Sonny_Jim: it's $35 lol
[15:49] <IT_Sean> That said, you do need to OV to get any real OCing done, so...
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[15:49] <Sonny_Jim> Higher CPU clock will involve more volts
[15:49] <Sonny_Jim> Thinnk about it
[15:49] <Lejoni> I know
[15:49] <Lejoni> if I want to go above 800MHz I need to overvolt it
[15:50] <Sonny_Jim> Draw a square wave at 1hz, then one at 2hz
[15:50] <Sonny_Jim> There's more area covered at 2hz
[15:50] <Lejoni> need to get my launry brb
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[16:06] <Lejoni> back
[16:07] <Sonny_Jim> Well, my previous statement wasn't 100%
[16:08] <Sonny_Jim> Higher CPU will use more *energy*, and that energy has to go somewhere
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[16:08] <Lejoni> of course
[16:08] <Lejoni> but higher volt typically means higher current as well
[16:08] <Lejoni> I=U/R
[16:09] <Sonny_Jim> Not really
[16:09] <Sonny_Jim> Flyzappers use high voltage but low ampage
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[16:09] <Lejoni> Well I mean higher voltage over the same resistance means more amps
[16:10] <Sonny_Jim> sure
[16:10] <Sonny_Jim> But if you get some squared paper and draw a graph you'll see what I mean
[16:10] <Sonny_Jim> regarding the energy for 1Hz and 2Hz
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[16:11] <Matt> P=IIR?
[16:12] <Lejoni> yes P=I²*R
[16:12] <Lejoni> also P=U*I I belive it was
[16:12] <Lejoni> as I=P/U
[16:13] <Lejoni> hehe its 15years sins I studdied Electronics
[16:13] <Sonny_Jim> Actually when did /etc/fstab get changed to include noatime?
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[16:13] <Sonny_Jim> Because I think that might have helped with filesystem corruption in my case
[16:14] <Lejoni> Sonny_Jim: You usually use noatime on SSDs to lower the amout of writes
[16:14] <Lejoni> and the SD card is a SSD :)
[16:14] <Sonny_Jim> Ah, probably would of been there from the start then
[16:14] <Lejoni> aye
[16:14] <Lejoni> most likely
[16:15] <Lejoni> can check mine
[16:15] <Lejoni> Yepp / have noatime
[16:15] <Lejoni> not /boot though
[16:16] <Sonny_Jim> I saw an article that said to move /var/log to tmpfs to help, but meh. I don't need the extra cycles
[16:16] <Lejoni> atime will cause writes to the filesystem every time a file is read and thats quite unsessesary on a medium that has a limited number of writes
[16:16] <Sonny_Jim> I'm just using this box with an rtl-sdr and rtl_fm, which typically only hits around 25% CPU
[16:17] <Lejoni> Sonny_Jim: On my PC I have /var on a normal HDD and /tmp is on a 20GB Ramdisk
[16:17] <Lejoni> and /home is ofcouse on the HDD and rest is on SSD
[16:17] <Sonny_Jim> Trouble is with putting /var/log on tmpfs is that you lose it after a reset/hang, so troubleshooting becomes interesting
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[16:18] <Lejoni> Sonny_Jim: that's why I put /var on HDD
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[16:18] <Lejoni> Having /tmp on a tmpfs also has it's drawbacks
[16:19] <Lejoni> some programs store "used-last settings" on /tmp stupid as shit
[16:19] <Lejoni> should be stored in ~/
[16:19] <Lejoni> or even better ~/.programname
[16:20] <Lejoni> My reasson for having 20GB for /tmp tmpfs is that I use it when I record games, so it dose not slow down loading so much in the game
[16:21] <Lejoni> allows me to record about 1.5-2h of high quality 1080p
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[16:25] <Lejoni> Want to get a capture card but the only one I found that officialy supports linux is almost $300
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[16:25] <Sonny_Jim> Oh there's plenty of cheap cards that work
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[16:26] <Sonny_Jim> MythTV probably has a list of known workers
[16:26] <Lejoni> Sonny_Jim: How good is MythTV as capturing software?
[16:27] <Sonny_Jim> WE just used vlc iirc
[16:27] <Lejoni> How is the quality?
[16:27] <Sonny_Jim> This was using composite, so PAL/NTSC
[16:27] <Lejoni> no has to be HDMI 1080p
[16:28] <Sonny_Jim> Then you might have to spend $300
[16:28] <Lejoni> aye
[16:28] <Lejoni> so fare my PC handles it fine though
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[16:28] <RavenII> were hero there.
[16:28] <Lejoni> have quad-channel ram so recording to ram is fast :)
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[16:29] <IT_Sean> yeah, Lejoni, you are going to pay through the left nostril for a 1080p HDMI capture card.
[16:29] <Lejoni> and I record the OpenGL stream directly
[16:29] <Sonny_Jim> Surely the bottleneck will be taking the framebuffer image from the card
[16:29] <Sonny_Jim> As most cards are designed to go fast one way and not the other
[16:29] <Sonny_Jim> ie from CPU -> Gfx
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[16:29] <Lejoni> IT_Sean: the main reasson I want a capture card is that I want to use my old LGA1366 rig to record instead.
[16:30] <Lejoni> Sonny_Jim: No capturing the FB is much faster than to just capture the screen with for example record my desktop
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[16:30] <Lejoni> or ffmpeg
[16:31] <Lejoni> ffmpeg was what I used for a long time
[16:31] <Sonny_Jim> I meant the transfer from CPU to RAM won't be the bottleneck, the transfer from GFX to CPU will be
[16:31] <Lejoni> Why would that be slow?
[16:31] <PhotoJim> j4jackj: oh cool :)
[16:32] <Sonny_Jim> Because GFX cards are setup so that the CPU can transfer information into the card quickly and the card will do extra processing on top
[16:32] <Sonny_Jim> hence why GFX cards have lots of RAM now to hold stuff like textures
[16:32] <Lejoni> I get a slight FPS drop but its not bad
[16:32] <Sonny_Jim> Saves the GFX card having to go through the CPU to get the textures from main system RAM
[16:33] <Lejoni> My Motherboard is "PCI-E Ready" not sure it comes up to the full bandwidth though
[16:33] <Sonny_Jim> when recording, the CPU will need to get the processed information from the card, which it normally doesn't have to do
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[16:34] <Lejoni> My CPU load rarely goes above 20% in most new games
[16:34] <Lejoni> so there is plenty left
[16:34] <Sonny_Jim> CPU load doesn't equal IRQ load
[16:35] <Sonny_Jim> or does it? Meh I don't know
[16:35] <Lejoni> Infact I can still play any game just fine while the rendering proccess takes about 95%
[16:35] <Lejoni> err 85%
[16:35] <Lejoni> Sonny_Jim: that would be the Frontside Buss?
[16:35] <Sonny_Jim> My point is, when it comes to graphics, the card will be bearing the brunt of the processing
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[16:35] <Sonny_Jim> or at least should be
[16:36] <Lejoni> Sonny_Jim: I have a GTX770 it's still a bit over kill for most games
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[16:36] <Sonny_Jim> So you could have 25% load on the main CPU but still a low framerate
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[16:37] <Sonny_Jim> physics/AI/game calculations are a different kettle of fish though
[16:37] <Lejoni> true if the GPU is the bottle neck
[16:38] * Sonny_Jim nods
[16:38] <Lejoni> In the games I get maybe a 10fps drop or so when I record maybe 20 if its bad but then thats from 60fps+ so still very playable
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[16:39] <Lejoni> in fact I usally throtle the game FPS to 30 witch I record in
[16:39] <Lejoni> it has happened that it drops bellow that but it's very rare
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[16:40] <Lejoni> In native linux games it's never a problem. Some games in Wine it can drop noticably. but that's usually cases where it would drop even if I was not recording
[16:41] <Lejoni> get about 20-40% preformance drops on Windows games in Wine
[16:41] <Sonny_Jim> That's to be expected, as it has to do another layer of translation
[16:41] <Lejoni> yeah
[16:41] <Lejoni> I so hope the native DX supports take off
[16:42] <Sonny_Jim> I'd rather the effort was put into native games, tbh
[16:42] <Lejoni> but then I need to use the opensouce driver and that one is currently hoplessly bad at preformance
[16:42] <Sonny_Jim> Having an open source OS doesn't mean that all the software has to be open source
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[16:43] <Lejoni> Sonny_Jim: me too. I love native games. I buy a LOT of native games for Linux even if I dont have time to play them.
[16:43] <Sonny_Jim> But market share plays a huge part from gaming companies
[16:43] <Lejoni> yeah
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[16:43] <Lejoni> and I'm a gamer at heart so I have to use Wine
[16:43] <Lejoni> cus Windows is not an option
[16:43] <Sonny_Jim> Having said that, there's more Android than iPhone but it seems that there's more games written for iPhone
[16:44] <Lejoni> yepp
[16:44] <Lejoni> still today many phone apps comes out to iPhone first even though way more than half use Android
[16:45] <Sonny_Jim> Getting back on topic:
[16:45] <Sonny_Jim> Is there a decent BBC B emulator for Pi yet?
[16:45] <Sonny_Jim> Because it's about time we had something that can run BBC Elite
[16:45] <SpeedEvil> What's wrong with spectrum elite?
[16:45] <Sonny_Jim> It's not the original ;-)
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[16:46] <Sonny_Jim> Plus what with the connection with Braben (or is it Bell)
[16:46] <Lejoni> Sonny_Jim: there is Elite for C64 also and I know there is a C64 emulator for Pi
[16:46] <Sonny_Jim> Well I feel that the Pi has quite strong links to the BBC B
[16:46] <Sonny_Jim> Fulfills a similar purpose to the BBC B
[16:46] <neilr> Sorry for jumping in here - are we talking about Elite on the pi?
[16:47] <Sonny_Jim> yup
[16:47] <Lejoni> well now we are
[16:47] <neilr> Heh :)
[16:47] <Lejoni> I never had a BBC B
[16:47] <neilr> I have a compiled version running on Raspbian - from some reverse engineered C
[16:47] <neilr> Works very nicely
[16:47] <Sonny_Jim> Great little machine, you could drop into ASM in the middle of a BASIC program
[16:47] <Sonny_Jim> So you got the best of both worlds
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[16:48] <neilr> you still can with RISC OS on the pi
[16:48] <tig|> I have a BBC Master that I rescued from a skip :) there were B models in there but you can run the Master in B mode if you wanted to :)
[16:48] <Sonny_Jim> neilr: Which version of Elite is this?
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[16:48] <Sonny_Jim> Didn't realise it had been reverse engineered, I know Frontier had been done
[16:48] <tig|> iirc it was the difference between DFS and ADFS
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[16:48] <neilr> Called elite:newkind - was reverse engineered into C from the original BBC machine code a few years back by Christian Pinger
[16:48] <neilr> Pinder
[16:48] <neilr> not Pinger
[16:49] <Sonny_Jim> Oh cool
[16:49] <Lejoni> C64 was my first PC. And I still hae it
[16:49] <Lejoni> have
[16:49] <Sonny_Jim> No ones ported it to Linux yet?
[16:49] <neilr> Elite?
[16:49] <Sonny_Jim> Elite:newkinds
[16:49] <Sonny_Jim> actually, I'll check it out myself
[16:49] <Lejoni> Ok I gotta go AFK
[16:49] <neilr> Yup - I have - it's runs on the pi on Raspian using the Allegro libraries
[16:49] <Sonny_Jim> Cool!
[16:49] <neilr> But... the source isn't available any more
[16:49] <Sonny_Jim> Is it in any of the repos?
[16:49] <Sonny_Jim> ah
[16:50] <neilr> David Braben had it specifically withdrawn
[16:50] <Sonny_Jim> :-(
[16:50] <Sonny_Jim> It's a shame, but then again it's his perogative
[16:50] <neilr> Yeah, that's what I thought too
[16:50] <neilr> I'm lucky - I had a copy from ages ago when it was in the public domain
[16:50] <Lejoni> ttyl
[16:51] <neilr> Then again, if you do enough searching, you can probably find it *somewhere* in a repo
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[16:51] <Sonny_Jim> Hmm, apt-cache search bbc doesn't throw up any BBC emulators
[16:52] <neilr> arc-elite runs on the pi with RISC OS - but I never got on with that version
[16:52] <Sonny_Jim> At a push, I suppose MESS could run it
[16:52] <Sonny_Jim> But last time I looked MESS/MAME on the Pi wasn't so great
[16:54] <neilr> hmmm - just did a quick google, and the source isn't that hard to find. I can't give you any more details, obviously. But it's still out there.
[16:54] <Sonny_Jim> sure
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[16:54] <Sonny_Jim> I think I'll try and see if I can't get BBC B emulation working
[16:54] <Sonny_Jim> Really surprised it's not been done yet
[16:55] <Sonny_Jim> or at least in the repos
[16:55] <neilr> I always thought that Elite would be a massive plus point on the pi
[16:55] * Sonny_Jim nods
[16:55] <Sonny_Jim> For sure
[16:56] <tig|> I don't think the pi would be able to handle the new version of elite :(
[16:56] <neilr> I demo'd my version at the Cambridge Raspberry Jam a few months ago, and it seemed to attract a lot of appreciation from men of a Certain Age.
[16:56] <IT_Sean> Men of A Certain Age = ruddy old farts?
[16:56] <tig|> neilr: lol
[16:56] <tig|> IT_Sean: OI
[16:56] <IT_Sean> LOL
[16:57] <neilr> Errr, well, seeing as I was in the middle of them, I can only agree :)
[16:57] <IT_Sean> apparently, tig| is a ruddy old fart.
[16:57] <Sonny_Jim> One of the first big sandbox space games, there was another on Atari, name escapes me
[16:57] <neilr> (old enough to remember Elite the first time round, young enough to still want to play it)
[16:57] <Sonny_Jim> Starlord?
[16:57] <Sonny_Jim> Star-something anyway
[16:57] * tig| takes the cookie jar away from IT_Sean
[16:57] <IT_Sean> OI!
[16:57] <IT_Sean> :o
[16:58] <tig|> I hated docking in Elite
[16:58] <Sonny_Jim> Try docking in Kerbal Space Program
[16:58] <Sonny_Jim> In fact, just try KSP, it's awesome even if it is still Alpha
[16:59] <tig|> the other game on the beeb I don't think I ever finished was exile
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[16:59] <Sonny_Jim> Imogen was pretty good
[17:00] <Sonny_Jim> Sorta like Dizzy with a Wizard
[17:00] <Sonny_Jim> but you could change characters
[17:00] <tig|> was dizzy the one with the spinning top type thing that you had to collect gems or something
[17:01] <Sonny_Jim> yeah, old codemasters game. You were an egg
[17:01] <Sonny_Jim> At least that's what it looked like
[17:01] <Sonny_Jim> Go find item, take somewhere else to use etc
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[17:02] <tig|> keys were something like AZ and KM or something because each board was 45 degrees on
[17:02] <Sonny_Jim> Actually I saw a BBC B at a car boot a couple of days ago, £40
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[17:02] <Sonny_Jim> Lifted the case and it was an absolute mess so walked away
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[17:03] <ShiftPlusOne> Sonny_Jim, +1 for the KSP suggestion. Trying to land a spaceplace on the mun has taken up many of my hours >.>
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[17:13] <Sonny_Jim> ShiftPlusOne: I'm currently on a hiatus from it, did pretty much everything I could think of
[17:13] <Sonny_Jim> But the Kethane mod opens up a lot more things to do
[17:14] <ShiftPlusOne> I haven't even been beyond the mun yet. Just messing around with space stations and strange crafts. =)
[17:14] <Sonny_Jim> It's actually way easier to land d return from Duna
[17:14] <Sonny_Jim> Not such a big gravity well
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[17:16] <Sonny_Jim> No not Duna
[17:16] <Sonny_Jim> The other moon around Kerbal
[17:16] <ShiftPlusOne> minimus?
[17:16] <Sonny_Jim> that's the one
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[17:16] <Sonny_Jim> Duna is pretty hard to get back from
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[17:16] <ShiftPlusOne> Ah, my final plan is to get refueling stations around the solar systems and plant a flag on every body in a single mission >.> In a spaceplane, if possible.
[17:16] <Sonny_Jim> You need to do it Apollo style
[17:17] <Sonny_Jim> Minmus is harder to get into orbit than Mun, but not that much harder
[17:17] <donoban> hi, there is somebody with Quagga experience? I'm trying to do an Ad-Hoc newtork with babel but It doesn't run
[17:17] <ShiftPlusOne> And yay.. looks like my borderless electronics arduino clone has shipped >=)
[17:18] <donoban> Maybe someone knows what could be this error related:
[17:18] <donoban> Router(config)# router babel2013/09/04 14:02:43 BABEL: Couldn't create link local socket: Address family not supported by protocol
[17:18] <donoban> 2013/09/04 14:02:43 BABEL: can't create Babel
[17:19] <workingcats> Sonny_Jim, bit late, but noatime is the only sane choice, there's only like 2 programs that use atime
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[17:20] <workingcats> and the people who use those kinda programs know how to edit fstab ;)
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[17:20] <workingcats> i think mutt was one
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[17:21] <Sonny_Jim> address family not supoprted by protocol rings a bell
[17:21] <Sonny_Jim> Can't remember what causes that error, a quick google will probably tell you
[17:21] <donoban> hi workingcats, fixed my first problem but I've got stuck again
[17:22] <donoban> I've already searched, seems a problem with opening socket
[17:22] <workingcats> donoban, where you the one with the missing symbols?
[17:22] <donoban> yes
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[17:22] <Sonny_Jim> donoban: I haven't used qyagga so only guessing, are you using a hostname or IP?
[17:23] <donoban> hostname and interface name
[17:23] <Sonny_Jim> try using an ip instead
[17:24] <donoban> just replacing, eth0, wlan0 to their address?
[17:24] <Sonny_Jim> probably won't make any difference but worth a go
[17:24] <Sonny_Jim> Yeah
[17:24] <Sonny_Jim> As I said, I've seen that error before but can't remember why I was getting it. it's a standard library error
[17:25] <donoban> it doesn't like network 192.168.31.0/24
[17:26] <donoban> also tried without /24 and with interface address
[17:27] <donoban> It complains about a config error
[17:27] <Sonny_Jim> Whatever the issue is, I believe the error is trying to tell you it doesn't understand the address you are giving it
[17:27] <Sonny_Jim> I *think* anyway
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[17:28] <donoban> I have another error, maybe related
[17:28] <donoban> 2013/09/04 14:21:42 BABEL: setsockopt(IPV6_JOIN_GROUP) on interface 'eth0': Bad file descriptor
[17:28] <donoban> 2013/09/04 14:21:42 BABEL: setsockopt(IPV6_LEAVE_GROUP) on interface 'eth0': Bad file descriptor
[17:28] <donoban> same with wlan0, but I think is only IPv6 multicasting...
[17:28] <Sonny_Jim> Ah
[17:29] <Sonny_Jim> I know squat about IPv6, so maybe it's related to that
[17:29] <donoban> I tried to disable IPv6 for quagga but I didn't found anything
[17:29] <donoban> LOL
[17:29] <donoban> just tried
[17:29] <workingcats> donoban, you're on raspian, right?
[17:29] <donoban> sudo modprobe ipv6
[17:30] <donoban> 2013/09/04 14:23:25 BABEL: Sending hello 25960 (400) to eth0.
[17:30] <donoban> 2013/09/04 14:23:25 BABEL: Checking neighbours.
[17:30] <donoban> 2013/09/04 14:23:25 BABEL: Sending hello 49438 (400) to wlan0.
[17:30] <donoban> 2013/09/04 14:23:26 BABEL: (flushing 8 buffered bytes on eth0)
[17:30] <donoban> 2013/09/04 14:23:26 BABEL: (flushing 8 buffered bytes on wlan0)
[17:30] <donoban> ITS WORKING!
[17:30] <workingcats> hehe
[17:30] <workingcats> there you go ^^
[17:30] <Sonny_Jim> Cool!
[17:30] <Sonny_Jim> What was it?
[17:30] <Dagger2> you should be enabling v6, not disabling it
[17:30] <workingcats> no, switch to gentoo, so you can easily turn off ipv6 if you dont use it ;)
[17:30] <Dagger2> (which, ok, is what you did)
[17:30] <donoban> well I don't know why the module wasn't loaded if needed
[17:31] <workingcats> Dagger2, not blindly tho, bet there's a million firewalls that deal with IPv4 but just let any IPv6 pass through hehe
[17:31] <donoban> but WoW nice, a lot of hours with the problem I'm going to start the sniffer to see if it works ok
[17:32] <donoban> ty for the help guys
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[17:37] * Sonny_Jim has a crack at compiling b-em
[17:38] <workingcats> whats that?
[17:38] <Sonny_Jim> BBC B emulator
[17:38] <Sonny_Jim> Seems a bit more recent than BeebEm
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[17:39] <Sonny_Jim> And way less bloated than advmess
[17:42] <Sonny_Jim> Gah
[17:43] <Sonny_Jim> the tar archive didn't unpack to a subdir, now my ~/src is full of crap
[17:43] <Sonny_Jim> Not a good sign
[17:43] <donoban> hehe very nice, I see babel hellos on Wireshark at least
[17:43] <workingcats> hehe, nope
[17:44] <donoban> seems that the protocol uses IPv6 multicast
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[17:47] <workingcats> ah, then ipv6 is probably required ;)
[17:47] <workingcats> i hope ipv6 comes soon :/
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[17:49] <Sonny_Jim> My toaster definitely needs to be addressable from the internet....
[17:50] <SirLagz> don't forget the fridge too !
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[18:02] <Sonny_Jim> Yeah b-em sucks
[18:03] <Sonny_Jim> Whoever wrote it hardcoded a lot of things for the build system, so autotools is broken
[18:03] * Sonny_Jim bins
[18:03] <Sonny_Jim> Like I said, the warning signs were there
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[18:21] <workingcats> pfft, screw toasters and fridges, it's getting hard to get sufficient IPs for servers these days -.-
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[18:21] <workingcats> and they're expensive, around 1�/$/GBP each
[18:21] <IT_Sean> But... that's what IPv6 is for!
[18:21] <workingcats> IT_Sean, yeah, hence i hope we get it soon ^^
[18:22] <workingcats> but we wont
[18:22] <IT_Sean> And... don't you want your toaster to be able to email you when you toast is done toasting?
[18:22] <workingcats> those who would need to act benefit from nto acting
[18:22] <workingcats> i dont eat toast, and dont have a toaster ;)
[18:22] <IT_Sean> O_O
[18:23] <workingcats> barms ftw!
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[18:23] <workingcats> brb
[18:23] <patagonicus> Next problem are providers. OVH only gives a single IPv6 address with their cheapest root server.
[18:23] <Dagger2> patagonicus: they actually don't, they do the same thing for those servers as they do for their other servers
[18:24] <Dagger2> (not to say that OVH aren't a problem. "the same thing", in OVH's case, is completely braindead)
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[18:24] <patagonicus> Dagger2: Huh? Which is? At least their German site says: "IP addresses included: IPv6: 1"
[18:25] <Dagger2> patagonicus: I'm basing this on someone that bought one of their £3/mo servers. it says 1 IP; you can however just add extra IPs
[18:25] <Dagger2> patagonicus: you can even set rDNS for them if you use Firebug to edit the IP in the form
[18:26] <asaru> hah. my server in the states came with 10 ipv4
[18:26] <patagonicus> Oh, ok. Have to tell that to a few people I know who have servers there. I'm still waiting for mine to be delivered.
[18:26] <asaru> and if my toaster could email me when my toast is done, it would be behind a NAT
[18:26] <asaru> :P
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[18:33] <Papierkorb> Hi, sorry to ask that here but my internet connection is ultra slow right now. I got a new model B rPi, and wanted to ask if a USB "power cord" delivering 5V/0.7A is enough. thanks.
[18:33] <ShorTie> not really
[18:33] <tig|> Papierkorb: should be just enough
[18:34] <IT_Sean> 700mA is the MINIMUM, and will NOT be sufficient if you start adding USB devices.
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[18:34] <tig|> Papierkorb: 1A would be better but I would just try it and see
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[18:34] <Papierkorb> tig|: yeah well, that's the only power source I have on hand ..
[18:35] <ShadowJK> I doubt it'd make internet slower or faster
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[18:37] <workingcats> Dagger2, they claim they give a /64 for the non-kimsufi/isgenug
[18:37] <Papierkorb> ShadowJK: as long it starts a sshd on eth0 i'm fine. No, i don't have a HDMI capable display either.
[18:37] <Dagger2> workingcats: yeah, that's also a lie
[18:38] <workingcats> ah ok
[18:38] <Dagger2> workingcats: they connect your server to a /56 (but nowhere do they tell you that)
[18:38] <workingcats> well if they give more than they promise that's fine ;)
[18:38] <Dagger2> workingcats: I think they get may get annoyed at you if you try to use IPs outside the /64 they claim to have given you though
[18:39] <Dagger2> workingcats: also, note that they don't give you the /64. they connect you to an on-link /56, and then they route you nothing
[18:39] <Dagger2> workingcats: so if you want to do a VPN, or a VPS server with private bridge or something, you're stuffed
[18:39] <workingcats> but i ordered the 24� kimsufi 3 weeks ago, 2 weeks ago they told me it'll be 7 or 10 days, monday they told me it'll be (at least) weeks.. so i think i'll go with hetzner, more money for (much) less CPU&RAM, but dual HD and optional extra IP4, and a /64 IP6
[18:39] <workingcats> yeah would need to NAT which defies the whole point of IP6 -.-
[18:40] <Dagger2> you can proxy NDP, which is slightly better than NATing
[18:40] <Dagger2> (but it still defeats the point, because the point is simplicity as a result of overwhelming address space)
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[18:43] <workingcats> yep
[18:44] <workingcats> you seem to know about this stuff... happen to have heard anything about hetzner?
[18:44] <workingcats> specifically, do they route the /64? i mean obv i'll need NAT for the IP4 but i'd rather not do stupid stuff for IP6 as well ;)
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[18:46] <Dagger2> I have heard something about hetzner. unfortunately I can't remember if it was good or bad
[18:47] <patagonicus> Dagger2: Well, they do not allow VPN or proxies without explicitely asking for permission, so one could argue that that's the reason why their routing is so strange.
[18:47] <Dagger2> patagonicus: nah, they're just idiots. they claim your default router is outside your subnet
[18:48] <Sonny_Jim> Beebem seems a lot easier to build
[18:48] <Sonny_Jim> If I get it working, what's the process to get it included in the repositories?
[18:48] <patagonicus> That's … uhm … interesting.
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[18:48] <Dagger2> workingcats: there should be somebody with actual hetzner experience in #ipv6, if you want to ask there
[18:48] <workingcats> patagonicus, over in ##networking and #gentoo-chat i've heard a lot about OVH being stupid
[18:49] <workingcats> Dagger2, ah good thinking, ty. will do that from home tho i think
[18:49] <patagonicus> Oh, yeah. As far as I know they don't even count IPv6 traffic towards your monthly limit.
[18:49] <workingcats> patagonicus, hetzner or ovh?
[18:49] <patagonicus> OVH.
[18:49] <workingcats> oh.. that's.. strange
[18:50] <patagonicus> No personal experience, though, just heard it from a friends who had a server for a while.
[18:50] <Dagger2> patagonicus: I haven't heard that before. but I totally wouldn't put it past them
[18:50] <workingcats> patagonicus, probably just didnt manage to include it in the accounting hehe
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[18:55] <nid0> fwiw, we maintain a few servers at hetzner and theyre reliable enough
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[18:55] <nid0> no ipv6 or virtual server experience with them tho
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[18:58] <workingcats> nid0, nice to hear
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[18:58] <workingcats> tho reliability is not a big concern for me in this case.. it's for experimentation, my private mail/jabber, exchanging files with friends, that sort of thing
[18:59] <Lejoni> I am so tired
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[19:00] * workingcats passes some coffee to Lejoni
[19:01] <lee> if you're after hosting, check out Bytemark (.co.uk), if a VM will do, bigv.io, and if you want to know how they handle IPv6, ask in #bytemark =)
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[19:05] <lee> (I just migrated from a dedicated box to a bigv vm a month or two ago, no major issues so far, the structure of bigv is pretty awesome too)
[19:05] <workingcats> lee, cheers, but considerably more expensive than hetzner's "auction"
[19:05] <lee> I have a backup box at Hetzner which is almost never used and basically there in case of emergency
[19:05] <lee> I was just going to point that out to you =)
[19:06] <Lejoni> damn crashed
[19:06] <workingcats> 45� or so for a quad core with 12G (non-ECC, *grrrrrrrrrrrr*) and 2 HDs
[19:06] <Lejoni> well X locked up
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[19:06] <Lejoni> think its the nvidia driver
[19:06] <Lejoni> workingcats: Thanx but I think I'm above the legal amount of coffee already
[19:07] <lee> depends what you're gonna do with it. bigv meets my needs and I love the way you can grab extra resources as and when you need them. but mainly, they are technically excellent... none of this 'first line support' nonsense, all their employees are highly clueful
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[19:07] <Sonny_Jim> Pocky ftw
[19:07] <Sonny_Jim> Chocolate sticks laced with caffeine
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[19:08] <workingcats> lee, well two key things i want to play with are networking and virtualisation (not just the VMs, the underlying kvm/whatever as well) so i need an actual dedi
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[19:08] <Squarepy> yes also, webfaction o/
[19:09] <lee> workingcats: ahh, shame. well, worth mentioning.
[19:09] <workingcats> and i'm sharing it with a friend, so not much saving to be had since i'll need at least 3 VMs up at all times anyways (router, mail, jabber)
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[19:13] <hotch> Anyone have an idea on the smallest / yet still including critical components like ssh distro?
[19:14] <workingcats> puppy is probably close to smallest
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[19:14] <Sonny_Jim> Isn't Arch pretty tiny?
[19:14] <Sonny_Jim> Do you mean Pi specfic or just in general
[19:15] <workingcats> well i'd guess it's like gentoo, you can make it tiny if you have a "feeder machine" for the target system
[19:15] <workingcats> oops we're in the pi channel.. well gentoo can be made tiny, but you need to setup crosscompiling. arch is probably closest
[19:15] <Sonny_Jim> If you have a feeder machine, read up on "Linux from scratch" and roll your own with busybox
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[19:16] <hotch> pi specific - I had looked at arch. Busybox? I was looking to roll my own hehe thx Sonny_Jim
[19:16] <Sonny_Jim> That would probably be the smallest but needs quite a bit of work. It's a great way to learn linux though
[19:16] <Sonny_Jim> busybox can provide most basic utils, there's a tiny sshd as well
[19:16] <Sonny_Jim> dropbear
[19:16] <Sonny_Jim> Used to use it on my Nintendo DS(!)
[19:17] <Sonny_Jim> That fitted into 4MB of RAM
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[19:17] <hotch> ahh. I had seen (a bit back) a distro with the sole purpose of rolling out distress with full customization sans shit loads of work
[19:18] <hotch> wow nice Sonny_Jim (4mb ram)
[19:18] <Sonny_Jim> You couldn't do very much with it
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[19:18] <Sonny_Jim> Someone figured out a way to use the GBA slot to expand it though
[19:18] <workingcats> Sonny_Jim, LFS is just crazy tho ;)
[19:18] <Sonny_Jim> A whopping 36MB of RAM
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[19:18] <Sonny_Jim> Yup, hence my "You need to do quite a bit of work"
[19:18] <workingcats> i dont think linux supports <8MB anymore
[19:19] <hotch> :)
[19:19] <Sonny_Jim> Very satisfying even if you are just c&p'ing commands
[19:19] <workingcats> Sonny_Jim, nah, gentoo/arch are "quite a bit", LFS is "please kill me" ;)
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[19:20] <Sonny_Jim> Last time I did LFS was probably >10 years ago
[19:20] <workingcats> never actually did LFS
[19:21] <workingcats> dont doubt its a good learning experience
[19:21] <workingcats> but i'd advise to do a gentoo first
[19:21] <Sonny_Jim> If you want to know what happens from boot to prompt, it's great
[19:21] <Sonny_Jim> I really went off gentoo though
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[19:21] <Sonny_Jim> Used to love it, then I was all like meh, gimme prebuilt packages
[19:22] <workingcats> i just got a quad core hehe
[19:22] <hotch> hehe
[19:22] * Sonny_Jim wonders if gentoo-ricers is still about
[19:22] <workingcats> there's funroll-loops.info
[19:22] <workingcats> or .org?
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[19:22] <Sonny_Jim> That's the one
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[19:22] <Sonny_Jim> yay, beebem has finished compiling
[19:22] * Sonny_Jim goes to test
[19:23] <workingcats> oh my
[19:23] <workingcats> just found the uzbl conf
[19:23] <workingcats> i thinki shall continue this at home
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[19:26] <Sonny_Jim> Whoops, locked up my desktop. Looks like it *does* need the extra patches
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[19:27] <knob> Hello. Has anybody seen a rPi controlling the DC-iris of a "security camera" lense?
[19:28] <knob> I am mounting a small lense on the rPi Camera Board, yet the lens has a dc-iris... so I was wondering if with the GPIO it might be controlled
[19:28] <knob> Any thoughts?
[19:28] <IT_Sean> what voltage does the iris operate at, and how much does it draw?
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[19:29] <knob> That's another thing... specs on these lenses are almost non-existant
[19:29] <knob> I believe it's from 1 to 3.3 volts... and draw... no idea
[19:29] <knob> can't be that much
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[19:30] <IT_Sean> Funnily enough, "It can't be that much" is the most common last phrase uttered before burning out a GPIO pin, knob.
[19:30] <Sonny_Jim> huh, apparently advancemess does BBC B emulation much faster than Beebem
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[19:30] <plm> Hi all
[19:30] <knob> I have a current security camera (IP), and I thought to "tap into it" and verify how much volt / amps it operates at
[19:30] <Sonny_Jim> Would of thought it would be the other way around
[19:30] <PhotoJim> a diaphragm actuator would be a small motor. It will have a draw.
[19:30] <plm> people, what is the tdp of RPi?
[19:30] <knob> IT_Sean, haha.... magic smoke
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[19:31] <IT_Sean> plm: tdp?
[19:31] <plm> IT_Sean: Intel Celeron 847E ULV 1.1GHz DualCore, TPD 17W
[19:32] <plm> IT_Sean: how energy use
[19:32] <plm> how much
[19:32] <plm> power
[19:33] <knob> IT_Sean, anything that pops into your mind? I'm just shooting ideas here
[19:33] <knob> See where we get
[19:33] <knob> The lens should arrive this week =)
[19:33] <IT_Sean> ooooh. Energy usage for a raspi = not much at all, plm.
[19:33] <IT_Sean> :p
[19:34] <IT_Sean> knob: you will need to know the draw of that motor. But you will likely need some sort of motor controller.
[19:35] <knob> Man, it's just that the specs on the net of those security camera dc-iris lenses are... spotty at best
[19:35] <knob> Some of them have a "diagram" ??
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[19:36] <IT_Sean> o_O
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[19:37] <knob> Others have a + and a - , ..
[19:37] <clutch_> I asked how to use raspberrypi for bandwidth shaper between two computers and internet today. I had to work. but I didnt' get if there is a tutorial for this
[19:37] <knob> getting some links now
[19:38] <plm> IT_Sean: I found as 700 mA (3.5 W), thats is right?
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[19:39] <knob> clutch_, there was a post I saw recently about a guy that did something along those lines.... yet it wasn't a "traffic shaper"
[19:39] <knob> more like a "traffic sniffer' or "analyzer"
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[19:40] <knob> clutch_, here's the link http://blog.marxy.org/2013/08/reverse-engineering-network-traffic.html
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[19:54] <Sonny_Jim> Weird, tty1 was just printing v's to the console, nothing in dmesg to say why though
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[19:55] <RiXtEr> Sonny_Jim: you didn't happen to type `yes` did you?
[19:55] <Sonny_Jim> err
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[19:56] <Sonny_Jim> Not sure what you mean
[19:56] <RiXtEr> Sonny_Jim: moo...
[19:56] <RiXtEr> ah
[19:56] <RiXtEr> type the word yes at a # or $
[19:57] <RiXtEr> see if your issue comes back.
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[19:58] <RiXtEr> you can use ctrl-c to stop it.
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[20:02] <clutch_> knob: thanks. but it seems to be for wlan? we run cabled here
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[20:04] <Papierkorb> tig|: yup, the rpi works alright with the minimum power source, tested arch and debian
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[20:11] <Sonny_Jim> RiXtEr: Sorry, din dins got in the way
[20:11] <Sonny_Jim> I was using the Pi headless (ssh + screen) so was a little surprised to see it
[20:11] <Sonny_Jim> Ctrl-c did nothing, had to kill the process from another console
[20:11] <RiXtEr> which process?
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[20:11] <Sonny_Jim> Oh I just killed bash
[20:12] <Sonny_Jim> Didn't see any other process
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[20:12] <Sonny_Jim> tbh I have a lot of USB devices hanging off the Pi so just assumed it was the USB keyboard going wonky
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[20:12] <Sonny_Jim> But it only happened in that console, other consoles were fine
[20:12] <RiXtEr> Sonny_Jim: so if you type `yes` at a console, does it do it again?
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[20:14] <Sonny_Jim> Erm
[20:14] <Sonny_Jim> y != v
[20:14] <Sonny_Jim> PLus yes newlines, this was vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv
[20:15] <RiXtEr> Sonny_Jim: ah ok.
[20:15] <Sonny_Jim> Like I said, just odd. Thanks for having a think about it though
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[20:21] <bts__> hm, I've bought LCD screen with 2mm pin raster, and now it seems that I have to solder even though having a connector...
[20:22] <bts__> (connector is 2mm-2mm, and my breadboard is 2,54 ;x)
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[20:35] <Sonny_Jim> Hmm, beebem seems to come with the OS roms
[20:35] <Sonny_Jim> They PD now?
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[20:37] <johnc-> anybody experimented with the gstreamer plugins for pi?
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[20:57] <RavenII> I like Keylime pie....mmmmm
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[21:11] <Sonny_Jim> Hmm, seems theres a patch for beebem to make it slightly less slow
[21:11] <Sonny_Jim> Not holding out any great hope though
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[21:35] <Sonny_Jim> How do I increase the size of the swapfile
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[21:42] <pksato> Sonny_Jim: create a new on. dd if=/dev/zero of=/some/place/newswap bs=1M count=512
[21:43] <pksato> mkswap /some/place/newswap
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[21:43] <pksato> swapon /some/place/newswap
[21:44] <Sonny_Jim> Cool
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[21:44] <Sonny_Jim> I'm trying to compile advancemess but it crashs on an unknown instruction, so I think it's probably the gcc version doing it
[21:44] * Sonny_Jim has a google about
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[21:47] <Sonny_Jim> Yeah it looks like it needs a different version of GCC
[21:47] <Sonny_Jim> http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=78&t=23113
[21:48] <johnc-> I'm trying to get a gstreamer plugin installed
[21:48] <johnc-> it's not fun
[21:48] <Sonny_Jim> What's the specific problem?
[21:49] <johnc-> just finding all the packages I need installed first heh
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[21:50] <johnc-> going to give this a whirl: https://github.com/zuh/gst-omx-rpi
[21:50] <Sonny_Jim> What gstreamer plugin is it?
[21:51] <johnc-> ^^
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[22:06] <Sonny_Jim> Cool, managed to get BBC B MESS emulation working and it looks to be pretty fast
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[22:06] <Sonny_Jim> Can anyone confirm if the BBC B OS roms are still under copyright?
[22:07] <Sonny_Jim> I want to make a [HOWTO] post on the forums but don't want to link to stuff that I shouldn't
[22:07] <johnc-> ugh
[22:07] <johnc-> gstreamer is out of date in apt
[22:08] <johnc-> configure: error: no gstreamer-1.0 >= 0.11.90 (GStreamer) found
[22:08] <johnc-> 0.10 is the version in apt
[22:08] <johnc-> compiling that will be tedious
[22:09] <Sonny_Jim> Good Guy Ian Bell: Lets people download the BBC B version of elite straight from his website
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[22:12] <Sonny_Jim> johnc-: Shouldn't be
[22:12] <Sonny_Jim> Hopefully it'll be a simple configure/make
[22:12] <Sonny_Jim> But who knows
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[22:14] <johnc-> Sonny_Jim: well, it's all the plugins and whatnot
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[22:14] <johnc-> not sure what plugins I need
[22:15] <Sonny_Jim> gah stoopid advmess
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[22:24] <luxor> Hi
[22:24] <luxor> i would like to use virtualisation with Qemu
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[22:24] <luxor> is there a difference between i386 and i686 for my Pi ?
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[22:24] <luxor> Archlinux doesn't provide i386 version and i prefer this Dist
[22:25] <luxor> should i use another or it work also with i686 version as well ?
[22:25] <mick_laptop> your pi runs arm
[22:25] <mick_laptop> not x86
[22:26] <luxor> i know
[22:26] <luxor> that's the reason why i would like to use Qemu for that
[22:26] <pksato> qemu to emulater x86?
[22:26] <luxor> yes
[22:26] <pksato> or qemu to emulate arm on x86?
[22:26] <mick_laptop> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Raspberry_Pi
[22:27] <luxor> Qemu to run x86 on my Pi
[22:27] <mick_laptop> oh
[22:27] <mick_laptop> ok I just got here
[22:27] <mick_laptop> I'm playing catch up :)
[22:28] <luxor> witch dist did you choose ?
[22:28] <mick_laptop> I have a few questions:
[22:28] <mick_laptop> 1) why do you want to emulate x86 on your Pi?
[22:28] <Sonny_Jim> Oh easy answer to question one
[22:28] <PhotoJim> It would be very very slow.
[22:28] <luxor> because my software doesn't run or compile on arm
[22:28] <luxor> in fact i would like to run teamspeak server
[22:28] <IT_Sean> recompile it then
[22:29] <mick_laptop> ^^^
[22:29] <Sonny_Jim> That's not going to work
[22:29] <luxor> i couldn't
[22:29] <mick_laptop> crosscompile
[22:29] <IT_Sean> emulating x86 on a Pi is never ever going to work.
[22:29] <mick_laptop> 2) what software is it?
[22:29] <Sonny_Jim> I'm all for doing stupid stuff with the Pi
[22:29] <Sonny_Jim> But yeah, teamspeak isn't going to work
[22:29] <luxor> http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=29806
[22:29] <luxor> take a look
[22:29] <chithead> dosbox runs fine on the pi...
[22:29] <PhotoJim> IT_Sean: you could probably emulate an 8086 on a Pi in software.
[22:29] <IT_Sean> PhotoJim: it would be uselessly slow.
[22:30] <PhotoJim> It would. then again an 8086 was pretty slow.
[22:30] <PhotoJim> but I don't think DOS is what he has in mind.
[22:30] <IT_Sean> it would be too slow to actually work properly, i suspect.
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[22:30] <luxor> i would say, if my pi can decode 1080p video, it can also run teamspeak server right ?
[22:30] <luxor> (not at same time ^^)
[22:30] <chithead> the video decode uses fixed function hardware
[22:30] <Sonny_Jim> "I have yet to test the performance of teamspeak itself"
[22:31] <IT_Sean> luxor: that makes no sense. That's like saying "My car can go 150 mph. So, it can also fly, right?"
[22:31] <Sonny_Jim> So, no.
[22:31] <IT_Sean> it doesn't work that way.
[22:31] <luxor> mmmhhhhh
[22:31] <chithead> the pi can run voip applications fine, but not teamspeak as that is x86 only and emulation is too slow
[22:31] <mick_laptop> luxor: since teamspeak is closed source, that would be a negatory :)
[22:31] <IT_Sean> the only way teamspeak is going to work is if someone writes / recompiles the software for it for ARM
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[22:32] <luxor> that's the problem mick_laptop :p
[22:33] <luxor> is a performence problem or an access issue, in this case i can run /var and /temp on usb key for exemple
[22:33] <mick_laptop> does mumble work w/ teamspeak?
[22:33] <luxor> no
[22:33] <luxor> i saw mumble software on pi
[22:33] <luxor> but not compatible with TS
[22:34] <Sonny_Jim> Aaah I remember
[22:34] * Sonny_Jim fixes the problem he has
[22:34] <Sonny_Jim> When using advmess, software has to live in /.advmess/image/systemname/
[22:34] <Sonny_Jim> not /.advmess/image/
[22:34] * Sonny_Jim tries to get elite running again
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[22:39] <mick_laptop> luxor: you can ask them if they are planning on releasing for arm: info@teamspeak-systems.de No harm in trying
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[22:39] <Sonny_Jim> Yay
[22:40] <Sonny_Jim> Finally got BBC B Elite to run on my Pi
[22:40] <Sonny_Jim> Keyboard mapping is all messed up and I've no idea how to play it
[22:40] <Sonny_Jim> But it works!
[22:40] <luxor> mick_laptop: a lot of guys already try, but they explain it's not in plan
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[22:40] <mick_laptop> luxor: yeah, but if more people ask - it makes business sense for them to cross compile it
[22:40] <luxor> but yeah, i'll write to TS
[22:41] <luxor> exactly
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[22:42] <luxor> mick_laptop: but actually, TS rent server
[22:42] <luxor> for that
[22:42] <mick_laptop> I worked for a few companies that could have easily supported linux - they had the staff and the resources, but they said that not a lot of people actually wanted the software on linux
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[22:42] <luxor> exactly the same at work :)
[22:42] <mick_laptop> the business side would have been more than happy to do it too
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[22:44] <luxor> yeah i'll do that
[22:44] <luxor> but i don't trust they are going to do that ^^
[22:45] <mick_laptop> they have various linux builds
[22:46] <j4jackj> PhotoJim: Hello!
[22:47] <PhotoJim> Hey.
[22:47] <PhotoJim> At work so replies might be slow.
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[22:49] <luxor> http://forum.teamspeak.com/showthread.php/48801-TS3-linux-arm-server/page5 mick_laptop
[22:49] <luxor> i think i'm not alone ^^
[22:49] <IT_Sean> email them the thread
[22:49] <IT_Sean> "Look! We all want this!"
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[22:49] <mick_laptop> luxor: they already have an android version, and older builds of android work on the Pi, but I think the performance would suck
[22:50] <mick_laptop> http://androidpi.wikia.com/wiki/Android_Pi_Wiki and http://forum.teamspeak.com/showthread.php/81908-Required-preparations-to-get-started-with-the-Android-Beta
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[22:50] <luxor> interesting
[22:50] <luxor> really
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[22:51] <mick_laptop> it would suck, but it might work
[22:51] <luxor> really, it's not a goal run run server for 50 users
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[22:51] <luxor> and the pi had this only job
[22:51] <luxor> overclocked :)
[22:51] <luxor> but yeah it's a try
[22:52] <luxor> something impossible is really important to do you know :p
[22:52] <johnc-> just write your own voip server :P
[22:53] <luxor> yeah, of course
[22:53] <luxor> wait a few
[22:53] <luxor> that's done
[22:53] <luxor> really i can't do that, i'm not programmer
[22:53] <luxor> :p
[22:53] <gordonDrogon> asterisk is a good voip server.
[22:54] <gordonDrogon> not sure the Pi is the best platform for it though.
[22:54] <johnc-> http://www.gablarski.org/ <-- server should run on pi without issue I would imagine :)
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[22:54] <gordonDrogon> VoIp has a relatively high packet load to the host.
[22:54] <mick_laptop> umurmur works
[22:54] <mick_laptop> so basically, anything mumble related works just fine
[22:55] <Marvin-RPi> yes, mumble-server works like a charm
[22:55] <Marvin-RPi> mine is running for 4 months now, no problems
[22:55] <gordonDrogon> a standard voip channel needs 50 packets per second - each packet is 160 bytes plus IP overhead. Each way, so 100 pps. for 50 people it's up to 5000 packets/sec. I suspect the USB ethernet might be stretched at that point.
[22:56] <Marvin-RPi> every evening 15 to 20 users online
[22:56] <gordonDrogon> be intersting to see the packets/sec on that.
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[22:56] <johnc-> gordonDrogon: only one way to find out!
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[22:56] <luxor> yeah but my teamplayer would like to use teamspeak, at the moment they already use TS, and for that reason i would like to run TS on my PI
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[22:56] <luxor> i can manage charge with an USB key so it's not really important
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[22:57] <luxor> but yeah if i can't run TS on my pi, i probably work with mumble
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[22:57] <gordonDrogon> for one person talking to a remote server it's a no-brainer, but running the server on the Pi.. Hmm..
[22:57] <luxor> for a cost of 5€/month i think they will be OK with that ;)
[22:57] <Marvin-RPi> there is a teamspeak for RPi
[22:58] <luxor> i cannot found it Marvin-RPi
[22:58] <luxor> i mean a TS server
[22:58] <gordonDrogon> not to mention the bandwidth - standard VoIP needs 80Kb/sec each way. I imagine they use compression like g729 though.
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[22:58] <Marvin-RPi> I just decided not to use it, because it uses too much recources on the RPi
[22:59] <luxor> gordonDrogon: i have suffisant bandwidth, 50mbps DL 4mbps UP
[22:59] <Marvin-RPi> not enough luxor
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[22:59] <luxor> can ou provide me a link for that Marvin-RPi ?
[22:59] <luxor> to run TS server on py
[22:59] <luxor> without QEMU
[23:00] <gordonDrogon> most residential routers might struggle with the packet load though.
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[23:00] <Marvin-RPi> i'll look, just a sec
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[23:00] <luxor> thanks
[23:01] <gordonDrogon> 4Mbps is marginal for 50 channels at 80Kb/sec unless they're compressed.
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[23:02] <gordonDrogon> I base this on providing & selling VoIP for a number of years. I'd certianly never sell a system withthat spec over a domestic DSL type line.
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[23:03] <luxor> gordonDrogon: https://support.teamspeakusa.com/index.php?/Knowledgebase/Article/View/7/12/how-much-bandwidth-does-teamspeak-require i can upload at 450k/s
[23:03] <luxor> so i think i respect the minimum system requirement for 20people
[23:03] <Marvin-RPi> sorry i've misread on that luxor. Mumble is the only way, but works great. Now convince your fellow gamers to use Mumble ;-)
[23:04] <luxor> i think it will be the solution Marvin-RPi
[23:04] <luxor> thanks for your help
[23:04] <Marvin-RPi> np
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[23:04] <gordonDrogon> ah, using speex. intersting. it's still the same packet load - and that's more critical than overall bandwidth.
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[23:04] <gordonDrogon> still - it's an intersting experiment :)
[23:04] <luxor> :)
[23:05] <johnc-> people still use speex?
[23:05] <johnc-> man that's out dated
[23:05] <Marvin-RPi> i ĺl link you a website on setting up a mumble-server. it's dead easy
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[23:06] <Marvin-RPi> only thing you have to consider is port forwarding and a static IP for your RPi
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[23:06] <Sonny_Jim> Could you not get two cables and have a Windows PC running ts and mumble?
[23:06] <Sonny_Jim> Act as a gateway? My 2 cents
[23:07] <Marvin-RPi> Power consumption mate
[23:07] <Sonny_Jim> oh
[23:07] <Sonny_Jim> Spend $50 on a mini-ITX board :-)
[23:07] <Marvin-RPi> RPi uses 5 watts
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[23:09] <Marvin-RPi> this is THE best tutorial for setting up a mumble-server: http://sharpygoesoff.wordpress.com/2013/05/20/setting-up-a-mumble-server-on-a-raspberry-pi/
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[23:10] <Marvin-RPi> tip: hook your RPi directly on the modem of your ISP, only then you'll get the best results, ping and packet wise
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[23:14] <Marvin-RPi> tip: set-up the RPi to boot headless via #sudo raspi-config ,that saves a lot of resources. And enable SSH for remote administration.
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[23:16] <gordonDrogon> Marvin-RPi, if your in-house network switch & wiring cause issues like latency over direct connecting to the modem, then you have a fault in your wiring.
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[23:16] <gordonDrogon> definatly don't do voip over wi-fi though!
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[23:17] <SpeedEvil> gordonDrogon: Or the NSA has a really long tap wire.
[23:17] <gordonDrogon> :)
[23:18] <johnc-> don't do anything over wifi, it's useless
[23:20] <Marvin-RPi> both the SSH port (do not use 22, but use 2112 for example, to block hackers) and mumble-server port should be forwarded to your RPi static ip-adress. You can either set-up a static ip-adress network or you can assign a static ip-adress to the MAC-adress of your RPi using DHCP-binding on your ISP's router/modem
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[23:21] <Marvin-RPi> gordonDrogon, every extra step has to be avoided if possible.
[23:22] <johnc-> heh, non-standard ssh ports :)
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[23:24] <Marvin-RPi> johnc-, trust me. you wouldn't believe how many login attempts I had per day on my NAS when I used the standard SSH port
[23:25] <johnc-> Marvin-RPi: as a guy who manages servers and uses his rpi as a bridge into his home network while away from home... I believe you :P
[23:25] <Marvin-RPi> thank god for the built-in IP-block service on Synology DSM
[23:25] <johnc-> I use a key auth as well with passwords disabled
[23:26] <gordonDrogon> Marvin-RPi, seriously - I do this for a living - Your home switches and cabling will have zero effect on network compared to what goes on once the data leave your house/office.
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[23:27] <Marvin-RPi> luxor, hope this info helps you on your way
[23:27] <gordonDrogon> so just use reasonabl quality kit and relax.
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[23:27] <gordonDrogon> but hey, if you want some gold plates ethernet cables, them I can sell you some at $5000 per meter ;-)
[23:28] <johnc-> is that like gold plated hdmi cabls
[23:28] <johnc-> cables*
[23:28] <Marvin-RPi> me2, but CISCO-routers weren't that kind to me in the past
[23:29] <pksato> to use as jewel on neck?
[23:29] <gordonDrogon> well that's cisco for you, but we're talking home/small office switches here.
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[23:38] <gordonDrogon> here we go: You need these: http://www.amazon.com/Denon-AKDL1-Dedicated-Link-Cable/dp/B000I1X6PM
[23:40] <Marvin-RPi> GTFO! seriously?! people buy that sh$# ?
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[23:41] <gordonDrogon> I will excuse the use of your non-family friedly comments this time...
[23:41] <gordonDrogon> but yes - I understand some people do...
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[23:42] <tig|> Marvin-RPi: some do but it is more common for people be upsold to spend 90 pounds on a premium hdmi cable which is the exact same type of snake oil
[23:43] <Marvin-RPi> aye, true that. some people do want to spend silly money on that..
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[23:45] <johnc-> it's worth the extra cash if it's got antivirus
[23:45] <johnc-> /s
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