#raspberrypi IRC Log


IRC Log for 2013-09-06

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[0:00] <steve_rox> i rember using them things
[0:00] <Sonny_Jim> Surprised no one has done it alreadu
[0:00] <Sonny_Jim> Just need to sort out keymapping file and I'll post another HOWTO
[0:00] <plugwash> One thing I would note about elite is that like many games of it's era it came in different versions for different platforms
[0:00] <Sonny_Jim> Yes
[0:00] <steve_rox> this pc is reporting bad blocks disk io error so i may go down at any time ,, just a heads up
[0:00] <plugwash> with different versions having different features, iirc the archimedies version had a lot of improvements
[0:00] <Sonny_Jim> All the posts recommend the NES version because it's easiest to setup
[0:00] <ParkerR> Firetrack is best BBC micro game
[0:00] <Sonny_Jim> But BBC B Elite is the original
[0:00] <ParkerR> :D
[0:01] <Sonny_Jim> Not played that
[0:01] <plugwash> The nes version is horrible
[0:01] <Sonny_Jim> I remember Revs, Codename:Droid
[0:01] <Sonny_Jim> Imogen
[0:01] <plugwash> at least if you want to play with a keyboard
[0:01] <plugwash> because the controls had to be condensed down to fit on a gamepad
[0:01] <Sonny_Jim> oh and Dogfight was great fun with 2 players
[0:01] <Sonny_Jim> And Geoff Crammonds Aviator is quaint
[0:02] <Sonny_Jim> ParkerR: Will have to checkout firetrack
[0:02] <ParkerR> Muchman ftw! (TI-99/4A)
[0:02] <ParkerR> Crappy pacman ripoff
[0:03] <Sonny_Jim> the Acornsoft one?
[0:03] <Sonny_Jim> They specialised in ripoffs
[0:04] <steve_rox> fun times
[0:04] <ParkerR> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Inowxh3yBUE
[0:04] <Sonny_Jim> The did Frogger (Snapper?), Galaga, Galaxians, Donkey Kong
[0:04] <plugwash> ahh nostalgia, /me remembers playing lots of killer gorilla (donkey kong ripoff), snapper (pacman clone) monsters and planetiod (dunno if the later two were ripoffs)
[0:04] <ParkerR> Apparently by Texas Instruments
[0:04] <Sonny_Jim> Like I said, gimme a week and I'll post binaries and a HOWTO
[0:05] <Sonny_Jim> Right now I'm waiting for MESS to finish building
[0:05] <Sonny_Jim> Takes like 2 days
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[0:05] <Sonny_Jim> But I've enabled pretty much every system
[0:05] <Sonny_Jim> Hopefully Archimedes emulation will be do able
[0:05] <plugwash> I know people have had a workable archimedes emulator running under riscos on the Pi
[0:06] <Sonny_Jim> But the list of supported system in MESS is huuuuuge
[0:06] <Sonny_Jim> Like 400 systems
[0:06] <Sonny_Jim> You name it, its in there
[0:06] <Sonny_Jim> From Ensoniq samplers to the Sam Coupe
[0:06] <Sonny_Jim> MSX, FM Marty Towns etc etc
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[0:06] <Sonny_Jim> Even stuff from the 60's
[0:07] <Sonny_Jim> One thing I do need to find out is whether the BBC B OS ROMs are still under copyright
[0:07] <Sonny_Jim> BeebEm actually includes all of them
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[0:08] <steve_rox> damn im so tired
[0:08] <Sonny_Jim> yeah right
[0:08] <Sonny_Jim> beddy bye byes for me I reckon
[0:08] <steve_rox> im lay on bed now in dead sstate
[0:08] <steve_rox> thinking of rpi ideas if i can
[0:09] <steve_rox> not allways easy
[0:10] <CDR`> gordonDrogon - I don't want the staff to have access to a keyboard / be able to visit webpages (As its a work internet connection), so if I could limit to RSS feeds or scraping websites it would be better
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[0:11] <Sonny_Jim> x11server
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[0:11] <Sonny_Jim> No keyboard required, just vnc from a laptop/keyboard
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[0:16] <CDR`> gordonDrogon - NewsRSSTicker looks suitable, although a little basic in GUI to what I had planned, but i'm sure it will suffice - Thanks!
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[1:17] <mattwj2002> hi all
[1:17] <mattwj2002> anyone here
[1:17] <mattwj2002> ?
[1:18] <mattwj2002> is there an ir receiver for the raspberry pi?
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[1:30] <Psil0Cybin> hey guys quick question again just formatted the sd card, want to put the .img file via my ubuntu laptop
[1:30] <Psil0Cybin> i forgot the command and i want you guys to help me double check if the sdcard is sdc1 or what ever
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[1:30] <Psil0Cybin> before i run the command
[1:30] <sney> fdisk -l checks which device belongs to which device name
[1:30] <mattwj2002> hi sney
[1:30] <Psil0Cybin> i run the command
[1:31] <Psil0Cybin> and nothing happends
[1:31] <mattwj2002> sudo fdisk -l ?
[1:31] <sney> and for writing an image to an sdcard, you ALWAYS want the full device name ("sdc") and not a partition ("sdc1")
[1:31] <mattwj2002> no question mark
[1:31] <Psil0Cybin> /dev/sdb1 8192 15644671 7818240 b W95 FAT32
[1:31] <Psil0Cybin> would be my sdcard
[1:31] <Psil0Cybin> correct?
[1:31] <Psil0Cybin> its 8gbs
[1:31] <sney> yeah, sudo or do it as root. if you're looking at partition tables, installing packages, or doing ANY system maintenance, you probably need to be root or use sudo. just learn that.
[1:32] <mattwj2002> hi sney
[1:32] <sney> Psil0Cybin: looks right
[1:32] <sney> hi mattwj2002.
[1:32] <Psil0Cybin> so my command would be
[1:32] <Psil0Cybin> sudo dd if=/home/username/Downloads/2012-10-28-wheezy-raspbian.img of=/dev/sdc1
[1:33] <Psil0Cybin> sudo dd if=/home/username/Downloads/2012-10-28-wheezy-raspbian.img of=/dev/sdb1
[1:33] <Psil0Cybin> woops sdb1
[1:33] <Psil0Cybin> right?
[1:33] <sney> Psil0Cybin: ONCE AGAIN, for writing an image to an sdcard, you ALWAYS want the full device name ("sdc") and not a partition ("sdc1")
[1:33] <sney> always always always
[1:33] <sney> get that number outta there
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[1:33] <Psil0Cybin> so would it be
[1:33] <Psil0Cybin> sudo dd if=/home/username/Downloads/2012-10-28-wheezy-raspbian.img of=/dev/sdb
[1:33] <Psil0Cybin> or sdc?
[1:34] <Psil0Cybin> just because the partition was sdb1
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[1:34] <sney> sdb. because the partition was sdb1 so all you're doing is removing the number.
[1:34] <sney> it's really quite simple
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[1:36] <mattwj2002> sney: do you know of a good ir receiver for the raspberry pi?
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[1:36] <sney> nope
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[1:38] <Psil0Cybin> sney: sorry what do i type after its done
[1:38] <Psil0Cybin> clean or something
[1:38] <Psil0Cybin> i remember someone told me there was another command you type after the img file is finished writting in the terminal
[1:38] <sney> sync
[1:39] <mattwj2002> sney I think I found one on amazon
[1:39] <mattwj2002> I am trying to set up a second openelec box
[1:39] <mattwj2002> :)
[1:39] <mattwj2002> using a raspberry pi
[1:39] <sney> I know there are some ir receivers that can go on the gpio header or in a usb port but I don't have any experience with choosing one or setting it up
[1:40] <Psil0Cybin> sney: sorry so i just type in sync after?
[1:40] <mattwj2002> no problem sney
[1:40] <sney> yes
[1:40] <mattwj2002> just figured I would ask
[1:40] <sney> Psil0Cybin: yes, you run sync.
[1:41] <Psil0Cybin> thank you.
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[2:08] <Psil0Cybin> anyone here hear about pwn pi
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[2:09] <Psil0Cybin> does that work? is it the pi version of backtrack kinda?
[2:09] <Psil0Cybin> for wifi pen testing?
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[2:13] <sney> that sounds objectively stupid
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[2:33] <Mortvert> sney, if you know what you're doing, it kinda does turn you into a "hacker" :P
[2:34] <sney> but not in any way that you couldn't accomplish with a regular general purpose distro, in the vast majority of cases
[2:34] <Mortvert> I guess.
[2:34] <Mortvert> But it's nice to have a pentest-ready image
[2:35] <sney> ok, for the people that actually use that kind of thing, yes. but they will not be asking dumb questions in here and thus won't be the target audience of my reply
[2:36] <Mortvert> fair enough.
[2:37] <sney> I want to see download statistics for something large like bt or kali, and compare how many of the people downloading it have any network security knowledge whatsoever
[2:37] <sney> s/compare/see/
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[2:37] <sney> I bet it's like 20% at the outside
[2:37] <Mortvert> I have very tiny enough of network sec knowledge.
[2:37] <Mortvert> Just enough to know to change default ssh ports and all that jazz
[2:37] <Psil0Cybin> W@ell i want to learn thats why I want to get it
[2:37] <Psil0Cybin> i live in a condo and i have thosands of wifi networks
[2:37] <Psil0Cybin> i can pick up
[2:37] <Mortvert> Psil0Cybin, network security is mostly reading
[2:38] <sney> I'm about a third of the way through ccna security and I've been keeping other people's hands out of my linux systems for over a decade, so I'm probably moderately skilled. but I don't need a special distro for any of that
[2:38] <sney> (unless you count ASA as a linux distro, anyway. it kind of is)
[2:38] <Mortvert> What's ASA?
[2:39] <sney> Adaptive Security Appliance. it's cisco's fancy firewall. it's a linux appliance
[2:39] <Mortvert> Ah
[2:39] <Mortvert> Sounds much like hardware firewall i tried to take a stab with configuration
[2:39] <Mortvert> Did not end well.
[2:40] <sney> did you lock yourself out of a remote system with iptables
[2:40] <Mortvert> No.
[2:40] <Mortvert> The darn manual was like 300 pages long
[2:40] <Mortvert> It still lead to factory reset anyway
[2:41] <Mortvert> Did something, network stopped in or out :v
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[2:42] <Mortvert> sney, if i want to learn about netsec, where could i start?
[2:42] <Mortvert> I mean, proper learning, not just half-assing things
[2:43] <sney> learn proper networking first and then specialize into security. cisco and juniper both have solid, well-respected cert programs for it. if you get good it's a solid career
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[2:46] <ShorTie> i did the first 4 CCNA courses, learned alot
[2:47] <ShorTie> very intense
[2:47] <Mortvert> http://mrscobos.weebly.com/uploads/8/4/1/9/8419077/849985_orig.png <- alot
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[3:21] <troulouliou_dev> hi is it planned to update the pi to rev C or similar ?
[3:21] <troulouliou_dev> a better cpu for non laggy gui desktop would be great
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[3:34] <Firehopper> http://www.flickr.com/photos/firehopper/6228040014/ Old vintage laptop :) http://www.flickr.com/photos/firehopper/6227525169/ and it still works. runs off 4 aa's for 16 hours :)
[3:35] * mattwj2002 drools
[3:35] <mattwj2002> my first computer was a tandy color computer 2!
[3:35] * Firehopper giggles
[3:35] <mattwj2002> 16 KB baby
[3:35] <ozzzy> VIC20
[3:36] <Firehopper> I had a coco 3 :)
[3:36] <mattwj2002> Firehopper: I have one for ya
[3:36] <mattwj2002> how long can you get a pi to run on the same battereis?
[3:36] <mattwj2002> coco 3 had upper and lower case right?
[3:36] <Firehopper> and a C64 and ti 99 4a and even a sinclair at one point
[3:36] <mattwj2002> hehe
[3:36] <Firehopper> yes it did..
[3:36] <mattwj2002> coco 2 only had upper case :(
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[3:37] <mattwj2002> I wonder what can run longer a rpi or your old laptop
[3:37] <mattwj2002> :)
[3:37] <mattwj2002> I am thinking your old laptop
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[3:38] <mattwj2002> the clock speed is a bit less though :P
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[3:38] <Firehopper> and the memory is too.. 24K :)
[3:39] <mattwj2002> 24 K
[3:39] <mattwj2002> O.o
[3:39] <mattwj2002> oh my roomy!
[3:39] <mattwj2002> :P
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[3:40] <mattwj2002> Firehopper: I bet you could get close to 20 hours on 4 D batteries on a rpi
[3:41] <mattwj2002> 4 D batteries about 10 A......I figure usb is a standard 500 mA.....so 20 hours???
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[3:42] <Firehopper> the pi uses 300-700 ma depending on what is plugged in the usb port..
[3:42] <Firehopper> plus you need to figure out the vreg losses too
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[3:43] <mattwj2002> ah good point
[3:43] <Firehopper> http://www.flickr.com/photos/firehopper/9684339626/ new test equip for repairing/building electronic gadgets :)
[3:43] <mattwj2002> pretty :)
[3:44] <mattwj2002> I am thinking about buying a second pi
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[3:44] <mattwj2002> I love them for openelec
[3:44] <mattwj2002> :D
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[4:09] <Shakaz> do you need to install raspbian/noobs on an sd card or can you boot from USB?
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[4:10] <Firehopper> must be installed to a sd card
[4:10] <Firehopper> cant boot from usb
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[4:12] <Shakaz> Firehopper, is there an easy way to change the rpi to boot from usb?
[4:13] <PhotoJim> There is no way.
[4:13] <PhotoJim> It can't boot from USB, period.
[4:13] <PhotoJim> There is a version of Raspbian that will boot from SD and mount the root partition from USB. that's as close as you can get.
[4:13] <quackgyver> Man, so stoked about my new Pi desk.
[4:13] <quackgyver> :D
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[4:14] <Xark> quackgyver: How many Raspberry Pis did it take to build it? :)
[4:14] <quackgyver> Haha, none, but I do have 3. :D
[4:15] <quackgyver> Been pretty bummed about having to pack away all my electronics stuff when I'm done tinkering, so when I moved the other day I made sure to get myself my own Pi workdesk.
[4:15] <quackgyver> Where I can actually leave my stuff until later.
[4:15] <quackgyver> So that's cool. :-D
[4:15] <Xark> quackgyver: I see. Right on.
[4:15] <quackgyver> For sure mate. :D
[4:16] <quackgyver> To the gf:
[4:16] <quackgyver> "Just so you know, I'm getting a rPi desk..."
[4:16] <quackgyver> "Um, ok."
[4:16] <quackgyver> "And I'm gonna put my rPi coffee mug on there too."
[4:16] <quackgyver> "Um ok."
[4:16] <quackgyver> "Aight...."
[4:16] <quackgyver> :D
[4:17] <Firehopper> thats kinda why I like the udoo quad :) its like a pi on steroids :) plus it boots from usb or sata :)
[4:17] <Firehopper> and sd card
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[4:17] <quackgyver> Firehopper: Are you a bot?
[4:18] <Firehopper> nope
[4:18] <Firehopper> I am not
[4:18] <quackgyver> Haha, aight. Just seemed so random, but I guess you responded to something earlier. :-)
[4:19] <Firehopper> responding to the boot a pi from usb comment :)
[4:19] <Deadlights> If you like UDOO, Firehopper then you need to check out the ODROID units. The U2 and the XU.
[4:19] <Deadlights> The XU is freaking insane.
[4:19] <Firehopper> eh.. I have a udoo ordered.
[4:19] <Firehopper> how much is a xu?
[4:19] <Deadlights> http://hardkernel.com/renewal_2011/products/prdt_info.php?g_code=G137510300620
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[4:20] <quackgyver> Firehopper: Yeah I figured. Just curious though because you might've been an elaborate ad bot. ;-D
[4:20] <Deadlights> It's $169, but well worth it for what you get. You can literally replace your desktop with that and some parts.
[4:20] <quackgyver> Man I'm so stoked about my rPi tinkering. I've been wanting to have this for a year. Hooray.
[4:20] <quackgyver> Working on an awesome product right now. :-D
[4:20] <Deadlights> I am building a new Desktop inside a plastic TARDIS with it. =D
[4:20] <quackgyver> Deadlights: haha, that's sweet
[4:20] <Firehopper> nice
[4:20] <Xark> Firehopper: Did you see this http://olimex.wordpress.com/2013/08/30/cedarx-for-allwinner-is-liberated/ ?
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[4:21] <Firehopper> its not bad.. but its a bit out of my price range atm
[4:21] <Deadlights> I am doing a NES rebuild project with the Pi getting delivered tomorrow, and I still need more Pi units for tinkering. =3
[4:21] <Deadlights> So many things you can do!
[4:21] <quackgyver> Firehopper: Seems a bit pricey
[4:21] <Deadlights> Understand that, Firehopper .
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[4:22] <Firehopper> http://www.flickr.com/photos/firehopper/8571797873/ < my pi plate :) the udoo will get mounted to it as well
[4:22] <quackgyver> Firehopper: Though, it seems to advertise DualCore, yet it mostly seems to be ARM?
[4:22] <Firehopper> deadlights, but the Udoo has a built in Arduino Due as well.. the ordroid does not..
[4:22] <quackgyver> Does it do x86 or what?
[4:22] <Firehopper> arm
[4:22] <quackgyver> So no intel or amd?
[4:23] <Firehopper> and depending on which one, its single, dual or quad..
[4:23] <quackgyver> aight
[4:23] <Firehopper> I ordered the quad, since it has a sata port.
[4:23] <quackgyver> Is it bigger than the rPi?
[4:23] <Deadlights> True, Fire. But that 8 core system it has... So sexy. And, the USB 3.0 support.
[4:23] <PhotoJim> ARM can be multiple core.
[4:24] <Firehopper> basicly its 2x the size of the pi.
[4:24] * Xark would rather have SATA than USB 3.0...
[4:24] <Deadlights> It is an ARM system. =D
[4:24] <Firehopper> so 4" square
[4:24] <Firehopper> instead of a rectangle
[4:24] <Firehopper> I ordered the udoo quad, so its a quad core :)
[4:24] <Deadlights> I would like the SATA, Xark . I won't lie. But, for what I'm using it for, the USB 3.0 actually works better for me.
[4:25] <PhotoJim> USB 3 is more flexible, if you have to choose one or the other.
[4:25] <PhotoJim> but yeah, for disk I/O eSATA would be better.
[4:25] <Deadlights> For the TARDIS desktop I am building, 3.0 is ideal.
[4:26] <Xark> Firehopper: I guess "any week now" for UDOO (in theory). :)
[4:26] <Firehopper> yeah could be any week now..
[4:27] <Firehopper> http://www.flickr.com/photos/firehopper/7742785042/ < put a pi on this :) use it for true wireless camera ;)
[4:27] <Deadlights> The lead dev for the ODROID's is super nice, too. Be made an image of Bodhi Linux for the XU for me after chatting with me for a while and finding out it was my favorite distro.
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[4:27] <Deadlights> Always nice having a good team behind a project.
[4:27] <Deadlights> He made*
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[5:26] <relipse> i'm new to rasberry pi, what can i do with it?
[5:26] <relipse> it comes with linux, right?
[5:27] <relipse> where is the best place to purchase a raspberry pi in the USA?
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[5:29] <jdriver> hey there
[5:29] <jdriver> i'm using mine as a wifi hotspot plugged into a cable modem
[5:29] <jdriver> it's also a media server and torrent server
[5:29] <jdriver> mostly it's there to teach me the command line of unix :)
[5:31] <jdriver> but practically it's saving me a lot of money on electricity - it runs me maybe 10 bucks a year on electricity vs 300 or so for a minimal desktop always on doing the same thing
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[5:32] <jdriver> i got mine from adafruit because they sold a pretty case along with it
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[5:33] <monkers> DHL delivered my robot parts from china in like.. 4 days... im awestruck.
[5:33] <monkers> what is this magic
[5:34] <jdriver> that's about par for the course monkers
[5:34] <monkers> ya? last thing i ordered took like.. 30 days
[5:34] <monkers> wasnt dhl though..
[5:34] <jdriver> just got a macbook air today from china. day 1 to anchorage alaska
[5:34] <jdriver> day 2 to portland
[5:34] <monkers> sweet
[5:34] <jdriver> day 3 to my local post office
[5:34] <jdriver> day 4 to me
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[5:35] <jdriver> err..not post office..whatever a fedex office is called
[5:36] <maxinux> kinkos
[5:36] <maxinux> or world servicr center
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[5:39] <monkers> would anyone help me get my arduino and raspberry pi talking to eachother ? im sort of lost.
[5:40] <McBofh> monkers: depends on how you want them to talk
[5:40] <relipse> what else can you do with a raspberry pi?
[5:40] <McBofh> politely, or otherwise? :-)
[5:40] <monkers> i cant use the usb, so i was thinking some sort of serial... but, i dont know
[5:40] <monkers> i need bidirectional.. i think... maybe not
[5:40] <monkers> it would be nice.
[5:40] <McBofh> relipse: I'm using one for xbmc (which has a very high WAF) and the other for monitoring my PV panel output
[5:40] <McBofh> monkers: ethernet?
[5:40] <McBofh> or does arduino not have that?
[5:41] <monkers> it does but i was hoping for something a little less intensive
[5:41] <McBofh> gpio might be the way to go
[5:41] <monkers> is that serial?
[5:41] <McBofh> yeah, kinda
[5:42] <monkers> do i need any hardware?
[5:43] <McBofh> you'd need a cable header to connect to the gpio pins on the pi, a cable, and probably another cable header for the arduino
[5:43] <McBofh> would be worthwhile shielding your cable, too
[5:43] <monkers> ok got em
[5:43] <pksato> why dont use usb to usb to make rpi and arduino talk?
[5:44] <monkers> i want to keep the arduino usb port free
[5:45] <McBofh> monkers: you said you can't use the usb, but didn't say why
[5:45] <McBofh> http://www.raspberrypi-spy.co.uk/2012/06/simple-guide-to-the-rpi-gpio-header-and-pins/ is a good intro to the gpio pins
[5:45] <monkers> i dont want to have to unplug the usb to upload code to it every time
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[5:45] <McBofh> to the pi, or the arduino?
[5:46] <pksato> ok, use uart to uart (or gpio to gpio). but, if arduino is a 5V, need a level converter.
[5:46] <pksato> and you own hardware and logic protocol.
[5:46] <McBofh> XMODEM for the win :-)
[5:46] <relipse> does this go with a raspberry pi? http://www.adafruit.com/products/204
[5:47] <monkers> yah sounds like i need a level converter then
[5:47] <monkers> http://www.adafruit.com/products/757 ?
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[5:53] <hassiktir> hi, i dont have a usb keyboard but heard if i bought a raspberry pi that I could boot up into the debian release off the NOOBS thing and ssh into it, is that actually true?
[5:53] <McBofh> yes
[5:53] <hassiktir> ssh is enabled by default on that distro?
[5:53] <McBofh> I run my 2nd pi headless and keyboardless
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[5:54] <hassiktir> without an initial keyboard to configure?
[5:54] <hassiktir> okay
[5:54] <McBofh> as far as I'm aware
[5:54] <McBofh> onesec, let me find a link
[5:54] <hassiktir> i saw someone on a forum mention it but couldnt find any information elsewhere
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[5:55] <Megaf> how would you know its IP?
[5:55] <hassiktir> Megaf: plugged into router and it would tell
[5:55] <McBofh> broadcast ping
[5:55] <hassiktir> yeah
[5:55] <McBofh> and then check your arp table
[5:55] <PhotoJim> Megaf: use nmap, or program the MAC address into your router and give it a static IP
[5:55] <McBofh> eg, ping
[5:56] <PhotoJim> or mount the SD card and edit /etc/network/interfaces to give it a static IP
[5:56] <hassiktir> jesus this keeps seeming like way more work than simply buying a keyboard ugh
[5:56] <McBofh> then arp -an |grep b8.27
[5:56] <McBofh> iirc
[5:56] <McBofh> actually, b8.27.eb
[5:57] <McBofh> that's the macaddr prefix on both my pis
[5:57] <hassiktir> i just want a way to torrent and watch movies
[5:57] <ItsMeLenny> i own a working one of these https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toshiba_T1200 (without any original discs, not sure if it came with discs in the first place as my 386 never did) should it be gutted and replaced with a raspi?
[5:57] <McBofh> hassiktir: xbmc ftw
[5:57] <monkers> what are the odds this will work plugged into the pi without a usb hub? http://www.adafruit.com/products/814
[5:57] <McBofh> and utorrent, etc
[5:58] <hassiktir> would the raspberry pi have enough cpu/ram to run xbmc and torrent at the same time on a 720 display
[5:58] <hassiktir> i keep worrying it will be glitchy or slow or something
[5:58] <McBofh> monkers: given that the adafruit pics show it plugged in to the pi directly, I'd suggest that it doesn't need a usb hub
[5:58] <monkers> yah but then they say "You may find that you need to have a powered hub to use this adapter, so if you're having power flakiness with your Pi, try a hub!"
[5:58] <monkers> so weak :(
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[5:59] <McBofh> hassiktir: would probably be best to do torrent activities on a different, more powerful system
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[5:59] <McBofh> monkers: depends, then, on how grunty your psu for the pi is
[5:59] <McBofh> personally, I'd use a powered usb hub connected to the pi
[5:59] <hassiktir> McBofh: hmm that would be the sole reason of buying this tho is to put all that onto 1 device
[5:59] <McBofh> to try to avoid that issue
[5:59] <hassiktir> otherwise id just buy a ps3
[5:59] <PhotoJim> I use a powered hub and I power the Pi with it.
[5:59] <McBofh> PhotoJim: ditto
[6:00] <monkers> McBofh - hrm.. power is gonna be limited
[6:00] <McBofh> hassiktir: if you want to do both at the same time, you'll probably have glitchiness issues
[6:00] <hassiktir> if I yeah
[6:00] <hassiktir> McBofh: yeah i figured hmmm
[6:00] <McBofh> if you can timewise separate the activities, shouldn't be a problem
[6:00] <McBofh> one thing to note - I've had audio glitch issues playing DTS audio streams
[6:00] <McBofh> so I transcode them to AAC or AC3 instead
[6:01] <hassiktir> oh
[6:01] <Megaf> ok ok
[6:01] <McBofh> I transcode them on my workstation (quadcore 3GHz, 32gb ram), so it's generally not a long job
[6:02] <hassiktir> yeah i dont have that ability
[6:02] <monkers> hrm... ok my robot needs a powered usb hub...
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[6:03] <hassiktir> im trying to replace an old ubuntu laptop i had that was hooked up to the tv to watch shows and i dont think this will work
[6:03] <Megaf> ItsMeLenny, thos old TOshibas are awesome
[6:03] <Megaf> I had a 386 one, with B/W screen and 1 MB of ram
[6:03] <Megaf> and 14 MB or so of HD
[6:04] <Megaf> and I had a Pentium One at 133 MHz, non MMX
[6:04] <Megaf> so a toshiba laptop from early 90s and a toshiba laptop from 95
[6:04] <Megaf> all worked well till 2006
[6:04] <Megaf> or so
[6:06] <ItsMeLenny> yeah, this one i picked up at an opshop
[6:06] <ItsMeLenny> the battery is a little flat but can be revived, and it seems like they still sell the batteries
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[6:08] <Megaf> ItsMeLenny, look at this http://old-computers.com/museum/computer.asp?st=1&c=801
[6:10] <ItsMeLenny> lol, i will now refer to all tablets as dynapads
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[6:11] <ItsMeLenny> i have a Compaq ProLinea 325zs, but the motherboard is broken or something, cant detect floppy controller so it doesnt boot properly
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[6:31] <monkers> the pi would run off this no problem, right? http://www.ianker.com/product/79AN7904-BA
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[6:37] <Xark> monkers: I would think so. I got ~5 hours from a much smaller one (4800mAh IIRC).
[6:38] <monkers> ok cool
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[6:53] <jda2000> I have a uid and gid of 1000 on my pi and a debian box. I'm trying to share a hard drive using the pi as an NFS server. I used anonuid=1000 and anongid=1000 on the pi and then mounted on the PC. When I ls -l the file system from the PC i don't see the expected user and group names but rather a very large integer. Is there a way to tell mount that I want to see the 1000 pid & gid?
[6:53] <jda2000> that is what is in the actual file system....
[7:01] <jda2000> Gaa! I mean uid and gid.. not pid..
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[7:11] <jda2000> # /media/BIG_DATA colossus.local(rw,all_squash,anonuid=1000,anongid=1000,no_subtree_check) # my exports entry on the pi
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[7:39] <quackgyver> Anyone experimented with t2s or s2t?
[7:42] <ShiftPlusOne> Firts sime hearing of is. O_o
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[10:03] <flufmnstr> im looking into using a computer PSU to power a RPi. if i recall corrently, running 5v into the pin header will power the pi but bypassees the polyfuse. if powered through the pin header, what kind of steps can i take to protect my pi?
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[10:06] <krosis> you could put a fuse in line with the power cable, or get a micro usb cable and hook that up to the power supply.
[10:07] <krosis> Personally, I'd just make sure that the voltage coming out of the PS isn't too high w/o load with a multimeter, and if it wasn't, I'd be happy. Maybe a fuse to limit current too, but I'd probably be too lazy for that.
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[10:10] <flufmnstr> hrmm. i suppose ill take the non-lazy proper route and just slap some USB ports on the PSU.
[10:12] <krosis> or just get a micro usb cable with pigtails and solder that to the red wires
[10:13] <krosis> your way would look more professional and be more versatile of course :)
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[10:14] <flufmnstr> meh, its for a haunt. itll live in a dark dusty place till it dies.
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[10:14] <krosis> a haunt?
[10:15] <flufmnstr> haunted house
[10:15] <Vostok> or you could make a microusb-molex cable
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[10:16] <krosis> There are a few threads / maybe a blog post about powering through the headers too that I know I've seen in the past.. I've not done so myself.
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[10:21] <rikkib> I use 12v radio supply -> DC-DC Converter -> vero board with poly fuse -> RPi 5V gpio
[10:22] <rikkib> also 150ma to stm32v
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[10:22] <rikkib> DC-DC 2A without heatsink
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[11:43] <MrVector> Good morning fellas
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[11:44] <MrVector> I'm looking to start interracting with the SD card in my bare metal project, in addition to the broadcom manual, can anyone suggest any resources that might be of assistance? :-)
[11:45] <troulouliou_dev> MrVector, writing one the default sd card used for booting ?
[11:45] <MrVector> The Bcm2835 pdf lists all of the registers and stuff, but I'm not exactly sure on the order in which to do things
[11:45] <MrVector> troulouliou_dev, writing/reading :-)
[11:45] <MrVector> (yes)
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[11:46] <troulouliou_dev> MrVector, it is just mounted at /
[11:46] <troulouliou_dev> afer boot
[11:46] <MrVector> troulouliou_dev, "bare metal" there is no mounting :-)
[11:46] * ShorTie would look into arch and rasbian
[11:46] <troulouliou_dev> MrVector, ha sorry :)
[11:47] <MrVector> I was planning to avoid copying someone elses implementation and writing it myself
[11:47] <MrVector> Just a simple one without DMA or anything for a starter
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[12:18] <SgtBurned> Anyone alive?
[12:21] <ShorTie> last i looked
[12:21] <SgtBurned> Might want to check again then... Just in case
[12:21] <ShorTie> okie dokie
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[12:39] <SgtBurned> Yeah, You are most likely dead now :(
[12:41] <ShorTie> getting closer with every tic-toc
[12:41] <tig|> blimey we *are* in a cheery mood in here today :)
[12:41] <SgtBurned> Just about to say the same thing.
[12:41] <SgtBurned> Wait whaa
[12:42] <SgtBurned> My time just changed to 3:41am...
[12:42] <SgtBurned> xD
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[12:43] <tig|> as a counterpoint to ShorTie's reminder of our own mortality may I present the following observation : IT IS FRIDAY AND 5 HOURS AND 45 MINS TO PUB O'CLOCK!
[12:43] <tig|> and 15 mins to lunchtime too :)
[12:44] <ShorTie> ah, that still gives you time for a liquid lunch then
[12:46] <MrVector> Still not found a good resource on the whole SD thing :-/ Found an implementation to look at, and I just keep thinking "How on earth did he figure this out?!"
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[12:55] <SgtBurned> What SD thing?
[12:56] <SgtBurned> And hello again MrVector
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[12:56] <MrVector> Good day Burned :)
[12:56] <tig|> ShorTie: alas not as I have to drive home
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[12:57] <MrVector> SgtBurned, I was looking for a reference/manua/something that tells you how interracting with the SD card reader works, the broadcom pdf only lists the registers, no explanation of how to use it
[12:57] <SgtBurned> I have to bike home... It's been raining and I only have my Dirt tyres...
[12:57] <SgtBurned> Oh
[12:57] <MrVector> But now I stumbled upon "SD Specifications Physical Layer simplified specification" which I think will help!
[12:57] <SgtBurned> I'll read into it too for you.
[12:57] <SgtBurned> I have some manuals here.
[12:58] <SgtBurned> I think you have to first init the SD address
[12:58] <SgtBurned> then read from the registers certain bits and then you need to reset the flux capacitor.
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[12:58] <MrVector> Also "SD Host Controller Simplified Specification", some 400 pages to familirize myself with >.<
[12:58] <SgtBurned> xD Have fun!@
[12:59] <SgtBurned> I've got a 128 x 64 LCD screen to program
[12:59] <MrVector> Aye, I know for a fact that I have to set the SD clock to 1.21 giggawatts
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[13:00] <SgtBurned> Thats a very well known fact...
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[13:00] <SgtBurned> Anyone who doesn't is a moron
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[13:02] * MrVector is most certainly not a moron
[13:02] <tig|> SgtBurned: I was going to cycle in today but had to take someone to the train station, but looking at the weather I am kind of glad I didn't :)
[13:03] * MrVector gets his screwdriver
[13:03] <SgtBurned> Lucky bugger, I don't have the option to drive
[13:03] <MrVector> Chuckin' it down all morning, I had to take the bus!
[13:03] <MrVector> Because of the rain obviously, nothing to do with a hangover
[13:03] <SgtBurned> I don't want to go home... But its a friday
[13:03] <SgtBurned> No no, of course not.
[13:03] <tig|> it has finally stopped here
[13:04] <SgtBurned> Still going strong and proud...
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[13:04] <SgtBurned> Atleast I have tech to keep me company
[13:04] <SgtBurned> :D
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[13:05] <tig|> raintoday.co.uk suggest we have had it for the day here (Worcs)
[13:05] <tig|> or centainly for a few hours
[13:05] <MrVector> Friday is 20% day at work, I'll gladly stay :D
[13:07] <SgtBurned> Friday here is 250% work
[13:07] <ShorTie> i just walk to work every day, rain or shine .. :/~
[13:07] <SgtBurned> All day everyday
[13:07] <SgtBurned> Slave Labour I tell you!
[13:07] <SgtBurned> Same pay too!
[13:07] <SgtBurned> 2.65 an hour
[13:07] <MrVector> Sounds tiresome :(
[13:07] <MrVector> What
[13:07] <SgtBurned> xD
[13:07] <SgtBurned> "Apprentice" Wage
[13:08] <MrVector> I'm sure there's an indonesian 6 year old making fake Nike trainers earning more than that
[13:08] <SgtBurned> Yeah :(
[13:08] <SgtBurned> And here I am shifting through some half arsed C converting it to Python.
[13:09] <MrVector> Gotta start somewhere I suppose
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[13:10] <SgtBurned> To be fair, It is a great company
[13:10] <SgtBurned> Just wish the pay was atleast minimal wage
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[13:11] <MrVector> I thought they had to pay minimum
[13:11] <MrVector> Or are you under 18?
[13:12] <Rydekull> 2.65 what per hour?
[13:12] <MrVector> GBP I believe
[13:13] <SgtBurned> 19 Years old, 2.65 GBP an hour. I am classed as an Apprentice :(
[13:13] <SgtBurned> Which is actually legal to pay 2.65
[13:13] <SgtBurned> No Pound sign makes it all a little difficult.... xD
[13:13] <Rydekull> 27 years old, 34 GBP an hour. I am classed as a Senior.
[13:13] <Rydekull> but still, 2.65 is really low
[13:14] <MrVector> 34 per hour? What the actual F
[13:14] <MrVector> Niiice :)
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[13:15] <Rydekull> Then again, I pay 53 % in taxes
[13:15] <SgtBurned> I could get close to 17 GBP an hour being an electrician ( I Has teh certificatez )
[13:15] <SgtBurned> Ouch
[13:15] <SgtBurned> 0% Tax's ;D
[13:16] <Rydekull> SgtBurned: so why dont you?
[13:16] <Rydekull> SgtBurned: learn how to to fibre aswell and start welding that for crazy amounts of moneyz
[13:16] <Rydekull> target Datacenters as your customers
[13:17] <SgtBurned> Hate being an electrician
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[13:18] <SgtBurned> I did some time doing house installations ( Re-wiring the upstairs lighting to 50v LED's.
[13:18] <SgtBurned> I'd rather advance through this small company at minimal wage
[13:20] <SgtBurned> although Datacentres would be hella fun
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[13:22] <Rydekull> I've been contemplating adding electrician to my repertoir but yeah... its a few years to get certified in swedne
[13:23] <SgtBurned> wow
[13:23] <SgtBurned> 1 Year here and I just need to get a CSCS card
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[13:24] <nekwebdev> Hi everyone, I was just wondering if someone tried moving their .xbmc folder to a USB drive and if they noticed performance gains?
[13:24] <SgtBurned> Nope, Chuck Testa
[13:25] <SgtBurned> Logically speaking, It might be slower.
[13:25] <SgtBurned> Depends on the transfer rate of your SD and the USB.
[13:25] <SgtBurned> If your USB is faster it might free up about 1-5% Max.
[13:25] <nekwebdev> that's also what I was thinking, but many people report good speed when installing openelec on USB for example, the storage part of it.
[13:26] <nekwebdev> yeah so not much of a gain to hope from and it uses up power and a USB slot
[13:26] <SgtBurned> Yeah
[13:26] <SgtBurned> Why not get a USB hub that goes onto the RPi ?
[13:26] <SgtBurned> *wink* *wink* Pridopia.co.uk
[13:26] <SgtBurned> Shameless Advertisementr!
[13:26] <nekwebdev> well for that pi, it is plugged to the TV USB for power
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[13:26] <nekwebdev> :)
[13:27] <SgtBurned> Hmm
[13:27] <nekwebdev> so I want to keep as little stuff connected to to as possible. it is fixed on a mount on the back of the tv
[13:27] <nekwebdev> to *it
[13:27] <SgtBurned> Well the one I use right now, It sits ontop of the Pins, One USB from the base RPi to a miniusb jack on the USB Hub
[13:27] <nekwebdev> thats nice
[13:27] <SgtBurned> This one has...8 Ports I think, or 7
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[13:28] <nekwebdev> I suppose I'll just try it tomorrow with a few different usb keys just to be sure
[13:28] <SgtBurned> ;)
[13:28] <nekwebdev> :) might as well test it ^^
[13:30] <nekwebdev> yeh just had a look, this sure is nice :) http://pridopia.co.uk/pi-usb-hub-i2c-ad-da-ft232-r1.html
[13:30] <SgtBurned> :)
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[13:32] <SgtBurned> All parts go through a rigorous testing phase too ;)
[13:32] <SgtBurned> Moar Shameless advertisement!
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[13:44] <sbelmont> no offense but this is sort of bullshit you have to wait up to 72hours for codec keys
[13:44] <bacobart> this is not an official channel
[13:44] <bacobart> nobody can do anything about that here
[13:44] <SirLagz> sbelmont: would you rather have no codecs ?
[13:45] <sbelmont> i know that, just wanted to bitch
[13:45] <bacobart> ah okay
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[13:45] <sbelmont> no, rather it automated and get my keys straight away
[13:45] <SirLagz> do you know that it *can* be automated ?
[13:45] <sbelmont> didn't see that on the website
[13:45] <bacobart> everything can be automated
[13:46] <sbelmont> so what's with the 72 hour wait then?
[13:46] <bacobart> authorization maybe
[13:46] <bacobart> idk
[13:47] <bacobart> i got mine in 4 minutes btw
[13:47] <bacobart> so its probably automated
[13:47] <bacobart> might wanna check your spam folder:P
[13:47] <sbelmont> i got the email
[13:47] <sbelmont> which is a pdf just to say oh this isn't your key btw
[13:47] <bacobart> i got the keys 4 minutes after my order confirmation
[13:48] <bacobart> in a seperate email
[13:49] <SgtBurned> Codec key?
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[13:49] <sbelmont> licence
[13:51] <sbelmont> who sends you a download link to a pdf just to say oh this isn't your licence, you'll have to wait up to 72 hours for that
[13:51] <sbelmont> raspieceofshit
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[13:52] <SgtBurned> Wow... Thats kind of strange
[13:52] <SgtBurned> Surely it would take like an hour max.
[13:52] <SgtBurned> What does the key have to do ? Just enable you to use the software>
[13:52] <SirLagz> well it does say "up to"
[13:53] <SirLagz> The "up to" is probably to stop people whinging when they don't get the key straight away
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[13:54] <SgtBurned> xD doesn't stop us!
[13:54] <SirLagz> there aren't any VOIP wizards on here are there ?
[13:54] <SgtBurned> Depends,,,
[13:54] <SgtBurned> What do you need?
[13:54] <SirLagz> I'm trying to unlock a Linksys SPA3102
[13:54] <SgtBurned> for VOIP?
[13:54] <SgtBurned> TO GOOGLE
[13:55] <pksato> SgtBurned: codec key is to enable hardware decoding for mpeg2 (dvd) and vc1 (blueray) codecs.
[13:55] <SirLagz> SgtBurned: To google on how to unlock a SPA3102 ? Already have.
[13:56] <SgtBurned> even this page
[13:56] <SgtBurned> http://www.tocpcs.com/howto-configure-a-linksys-spa-3102-ata-to-a-voip-provider-on-adsl/
[13:56] <SirLagz> that doesn't help me. because I can't access those pages on the SPA3102 :P
[13:56] <SgtBurned> Ahh okay
[13:56] <SirLagz> i need to unlock the SPA3102 first
[13:57] <SgtBurned> Unlock ?
[13:57] <SgtBurned> I R newb
[13:57] <SirLagz> lol
[13:57] <SirLagz> dont worry about it then
[14:00] <SgtBurned> Anyone an expert on the ST7920 LCD and knows how to nextline the display using hexadecimal addresses ?
[14:02] <SgtBurned> Been given the manufacturers guide from 2007 :'(
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[14:02] <SirLagz> No sorry
[14:02] <SirLagz> anyone used 4 address mode in hostapd before ?
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[14:03] <SirLagz> well a client connecting to hostapd when the client has 4 address mode on
[14:07] <pksato> 4 address mode ?
[14:07] <SirLagz> yes...
[14:08] <pksato> ah... WDS
[14:08] <SirLagz> something like that yes
[14:11] <pksato> its is non standard feature.
[14:11] <SirLagz> yes...i know that
[14:11] <SirLagz> all too well.
[14:11] <pksato> VoIP roaming?
[14:12] <SirLagz> not quite
[14:12] <SirLagz> trying to make a wifi repeater without routing
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[14:15] <SirLagz> I can see data getting to teh WiFi AP ( which is another Pi )
[14:15] <SirLagz> but no replies from the AP
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[14:39] <SgtBurned> Getting lonely here :'(
[14:39] <SirLagz> i was getting lonely before too. no one was talking to me :(
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[14:42] <Kane> morning
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[14:48] <SgtBurned> Afternoon
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[14:50] <bts__> 'data is clocked in' means that data is being read? (sorry, English is not my native language)
[14:50] <bertrik> yes
[14:51] <SgtBurned> Yeah, Data clocked means Data has been read
[14:51] <SgtBurned> I started to get worried when my boss yells...
[14:51] <bts__> ok, thank you
[14:51] <SgtBurned> They are not english and they speak Thai or something similar...
[14:51] <SgtBurned> It's a very angry language
[14:51] <mick_laptop> I'm not really into social media to be honesta
[14:51] <SgtBurned> No problem Mr Bts ;P
[14:52] <SgtBurned> ?
[14:52] <chris_99> surely it depends, as you can clock data into a shift register, it doesn't mean the shift register has been read
[14:52] <mick_laptop> I wanted to say "haha" and I hit the up arrow
[14:52] <SgtBurned> xD
[14:52] <SgtBurned> Hold down the up arrow for a second and hit enter
[14:52] <mick_laptop> yup
[14:53] <SgtBurned> BOOOORING
[14:53] <SgtBurned> Been given the manufacturers guide from 2007 :'(
[14:54] <SgtBurned> Slightly more fun that "yup"
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[14:54] <AlanBell> anyone done anything with bluetooth low energy devices like the BLED112 dongle?
[14:55] <SgtBurned> Nope, Only used the Nano bluetooth ones
[14:55] <SgtBurned> no "Low Energy" ones being sold near me
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[14:56] <SgtBurned> Suppose you could SSH using Bluetooth if you really tried.
[14:57] <SgtBurned> I've got to make an SSH program on android using Wifi / Bluetooth.
[14:57] <AlanBell> low energy is a new bluetooth standard, seems to share little more than the name with the main bluetooth thing
[14:58] <AlanBell> also known as bluetooth smart
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[14:59] <mick_laptop> AlanBell: which actually isn't all that smart ;)
[14:59] <SgtBurned> xD
[14:59] <AlanBell> depends if you want to do what it does :)
[15:00] <AlanBell> looking at it as an RFID alternative
[15:00] <SgtBurned> Oh
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[15:06] <bts__> what does it mean: ' pattern output on the CS pins when active
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[15:06] <bts__> ups... unwanted newline
[15:06] <bts__> these are 3 bits, should I set it to 000 if I want to CS be active-low?
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[15:07] <bts__> (it's SPI chapter from BCM manual)
[15:07] <SgtBurned> using GPIO ?
[15:07] <bts__> yes
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[15:08] <SgtBurned> Whats the error
[15:09] <SgtBurned> do
[15:09] <SgtBurned> GPIO.setup(CS, GPIO.HIGH)
[15:09] <SgtBurned> and then
[15:09] <SgtBurned> GPIO.OUT
[15:09] <SgtBurned> not GPIO.HIGH
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[15:14] <bts__> bare metal, friend ;) I'm trying to program it using hardware spi, so it should take care of pins state once when I configure it right way
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[15:14] <SgtBurned> okay
[15:14] <SgtBurned> My brain is currently running out my ear at the moment.
[15:14] <SgtBurned> I may be of no use
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[15:23] <gordonDrogon> bts__, it's to do with the SPI mode - there are typically 4 modes to drive SPI - it's to do with the polarity of the select line and the clock signals.
[15:26] <bts__> gordonDrogon: yes, I know this modes and I have identified proper polarity, only this CS setting remains
[15:26] <bts__> but I suppose it's got to be 0 just, as I want active-low
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[15:27] <bts__> (but it doesn't explain why there are three bits instead of one :f)
[15:28] <SgtBurned> magic
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[15:38] <MrVector> This simplified spec is really helpful, but *yawns* reading it is pretty slow
[15:39] <InanTop> Any troubleshooting tips for poor OpenGL ES performance on the raspberry pi? I'm porting an existing mobile engine but the performance is awful, lower than I'd expect for the hardware
[15:40] <Sonny_Jim> InanTop: I believe the standard response is:
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[15:40] <Sonny_Jim> There isn't enough documentation for the chip
[15:40] <Sonny_Jim> It being proprietory
[15:40] <InanTop> I haven't found much information from the community either, unfortunately
[15:41] <InanTop> I based my context creation and so forth on the samples on the board, but I'm seeing terrible performance
[15:41] <InanTop> If quake 3 can run I should not have a problem
[15:41] <InanTop> (I've looked at the source for quake 3 as well)
[15:42] <InanTop> For a hobbyist board there's very little out there
[15:42] <Sonny_Jim> I think the Pi is more aimed at the Arduino market, having an OpenGL chip is just a side effect
[15:43] <nzhack> Hi, I've got a raspberry pi hooked up to a monitor at my office and I'm logged into it via ssh. Is there a way from the cli to pull up the browser and have it launch a webpage?
[15:43] <tig|> SgtBurned: those USB boards look very nice but seem a bit pricey :( I suppose that will be due to the limited production run size etc..
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[15:43] <Sonny_Jim> mzac: try using the lynx webbrowser
[15:43] <Sonny_Jim> sudo apt-get install lynx
[15:43] <InanTop> Sonny_Jim: unfortunately I'm taking orders from higher-ups this isn't a personal project... I guess I'm up shit cree
[15:43] <Sonny_Jim> lynx www.website.com
[15:43] <InanTop> creek
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[15:44] <Sonny_Jim> InanTop: You'll just have to tell them that mini-itx might be a better choice
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[15:44] <Sonny_Jim> And that they might have to spend more than $35 to do what they want
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[15:44] <Sonny_Jim> But yeah, wouldn't want to be in your shoes
[15:45] <InanTop> Sonny_Jim: Haha I appreciate the empathy... I'm currently trying the same thing on the beaglebone black
[15:45] <InanTop> so far it's not going any better
[15:45] <InanTop> thanks for your information though
[15:45] <Sonny_Jim> It's not pinball related is it?
[15:45] <InanTop> pinball?
[15:45] * InanTop was kicked from #raspberrypi by IT_Sean
[15:45] <Sonny_Jim> Whaaat?
[15:46] <IT_Sean> he mentioned being up [expletive deleted] creek.
[15:46] <bts__> nzhack: GTK apps has a --display parameter, probably you can use it as long as there is xserver running
[15:46] <MrVector> I Guess he went to the wrong creek
[15:46] <Sonny_Jim> ah yeah
[15:46] <Sonny_Jim> Warning would of been nice, but thems the rules I suppose
[15:46] <Sonny_Jim> He's going to think pinball? is a dirty word....
[15:46] <MrVector> HawkEye_Sean :P
[15:46] <tig|> nzhack: or just something along the lines of : DISPLAY=:0.0 firefox
[15:47] <tig|> should do it
[15:47] <tig|> assuming firefox is in the path
[15:47] <Sonny_Jim> OH I see what he meant
[15:47] <Sonny_Jim> I though nzhack wanted a cli webbrowser
[15:47] <SgtBurned> tig|, Yes, At the moment the boards seem to be a bit pricey. I have no say in pricing as I'm only an engineer.
[15:47] <tig|> Sonny_Jim: that is what I thought initially :)
[15:48] <nzhack> nope just want to launch the gui browser from the cli
[15:48] <nzhack> thanks tigl I'll give that a shot
[15:48] <Sonny_Jim> nzhack: Then tig|s example will do what you want
[15:48] <SgtBurned> tig|: Watch out though! New stuff coming soon
[15:49] <pksato> nzhack: if you in on a Xserver, and X terminal emulator, just call binary name of browser.
[15:50] <Sonny_Jim> You can even run the browser on one machine (without X) and have it display on another machine on the network (that is running X)
[15:51] <nzhack> sorry didn't explain very well. monitor is across the room from me and pi is plugged in via hdmi. I'm back at my desk ssh into pi from my pc and want to issue a command to launch browser that pops up on monitor across the room
[15:52] <pksato> same way, but, need to export display and auth file.
[15:52] <Sonny_Jim> nzhack: on the Pi, DISPLAY=:0.0 webbrowser_you_wish_to_use www.website.com
[15:52] <Sonny_Jim> Don't think there's a firefox on Pi
[15:53] <Mortvert> iceweasel
[15:53] <nzhack> yep there is, just installed it earlier today
[15:53] <Sonny_Jim> Oh cool.
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[15:53] <Sonny_Jim> What's it run like?
[15:53] <SgtBurned> midori
[15:53] <SgtBurned> :D
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[15:53] <Sonny_Jim> treacle or usable?
[15:53] <tig|> Sonny_Jim: whoops I forgot about that bit :)
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[15:53] <nzhack> haven't had a chance to play with it yet as I've been trying to get this cli command working
[15:54] <Sonny_Jim> oh
[15:54] <neilr> iceweasel is pretty laggy on the pi
[15:54] <nzhack> I'll try it shortly and let ya know :-)
[15:54] <pksato> or to make more easy, start a x11vnc session.
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[15:54] <Sonny_Jim> yeah, you might have trouble maximising etc from the cli
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[15:54] <Sonny_Jim> x11vnc is probably what you want
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[15:55] <Sonny_Jim> With x11vnc and a vncviewer you'll be able to see a window containing the Pi screen on your other conputer and control it with the keyboard and mouse
[15:55] <nzhack> that's true didn't think about that
[15:56] <nzhack> I guess I just figured there was a way to issue commands from a cli to a running X session remotely but seems like it may be more complicated than its worth doing it that way
[15:56] <stevenm> Hey is standard glx not possible??? e.g. powerpoint/impress slideshows that use opengl transitions - or opengl screensavers perhaps?
[15:57] <RavenII> Make clean basically lets you start over right? as in it completely blows out all the stuff a failed make created?
[15:57] <pksato> nzhack: you launch from cli, but not interact.
[15:57] <Sonny_Jim> I believe that opengl is supported, just not as well as every hopes
[15:57] <Sonny_Jim> RavenII: It's supposed to, yes
[15:58] <Sonny_Jim> doesn't change what was ./configured though
[15:58] <RavenII> Sonny_Jim, thanks...ah, ok. which is fine by me
[15:58] <RavenII> I think
[15:58] <nzhack> that's fine really just need to lauch a php page with dashboard info on it
[15:58] <RavenII> now, what about a failed make install
[15:58] <Sonny_Jim> make uninstall
[15:58] <Sonny_Jim> But are you using sudo?
[15:58] <Sonny_Jim> sudo make install
[15:58] <nzhack> and looks like DISPLAY=0.0 iceweasel http://<site>
[15:58] <nzhack> works
[15:59] <tig|> nzhack: I think you have set the iceweasel hight and width via commandline too
[15:59] <nzhack> yeah you do lol, just noticed that
[15:59] <nzhack> looking for a full screen option now
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[16:01] <tig|> nzhack: a quick google would suggest there is an extension that will start it in full screen for you
[16:01] <tig|> would involve walking across the room and using the mouse though
[16:01] <Sonny_Jim> Hmm
[16:01] <Sonny_Jim> You might want to run just "X" rather than startx to get rid of the desktop/start menu (for lack of a better word)
[16:01] <Sonny_Jim> But I would try that later as it will give you more obstacles to deal with
[16:01] <jhoffmann> qq, anyone have any idea why when I plug my USB WiFi adapter from element14 directly into my Model A, it hangs after a few minutes, but if I plug it into a non-powered hub, it has zero issues for days?
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[16:03] <Sonny_Jim> jhoffmann: That's a odd one, but maybe the hub has a capacitor in it
[16:03] <Sonny_Jim> Smoother +5 for the dongle
[16:03] <Sonny_Jim> Doesn't dip when it's plugged in
[16:04] <jhoffmann> makes sense, sigh
[16:04] <tig|> nzhack: once iceweasel is running try : xdotool key F11
[16:04] <Sonny_Jim> tig|: Oh that's a good one
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[16:04] <Sonny_Jim> Can be used in a batch file as well
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[16:05] <jhoffmann> i'm using the modelA as a media box screwed into the VESA mount of my tv in the living room, would look much nicer without the gangly hub attached :) i wonder if a different adapter would have better luck
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[16:05] <Sonny_Jim> jhoffmann: Maybe, but it's odd that the model that element14 sell doesn't work nice plugged straight in
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[16:05] <Sonny_Jim> Try a better PSU
[16:06] <Sonny_Jim> Are you just taking the power from a USB port by any chance?
[16:06] <SgtBurned> *Cough* www.Pridopia.co.uk *cough* Usb Board.
[16:06] <jhoffmann> No, it's using power from the microUSB
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[16:06] <Sonny_Jim> jhoffmann: From the TV?
[16:06] <jhoffmann> No from a USB adapter (also from element14)
[16:06] <Sonny_Jim> As in RPi is powered from a USB port on the TV?
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[16:08] <jhoffmann> their site seems to be having issues atm, i'll try again later when i can get specifics on the adapters
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[16:11] <jhoffmann> here's the wallwort, http://d.pr/pJhZ, fixed not regulated, and here's the wifi module http://d.pr/O2HU
[16:12] <jhoffmann> i might have a better power supply, will have to try later
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[16:13] <Sonny_Jim> If the PSU and dongle both came from element14 and were advertised as 'Pi Friendly' I'm amazed that no one checked to see that they play together nicely
[16:13] <Sonny_Jim> Maybe they only tried on a Model B
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[16:13] <SgtBurned> Yeah
[16:13] <SgtBurned> Could be
[16:14] <SgtBurned> When were they released on the site
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[16:21] <arcanescu> what was a good raspberry pi xbmc subsitute instead of xbmc ofc ?
[16:21] <jhoffmann> i'm running openelec
[16:22] <arcanescu> yes i fgot the name actually
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[16:22] <jhoffmann> RaspBMX is the other popular one I believe
[16:22] <jhoffmann> BMC*
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[16:23] <arcanescu> yup i have already tried open elec works great... i just lost the sdcard
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[16:25] <ShorTie> tie a string on it
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[16:28] <nzhack> thanks for the help everyone, working great now.
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[16:34] <Rydekull> So, just curious. Have anyone ran into a project with a rpi where they've built an actual working KVM with the help of a RPI (no, not virtualization, remote control)
[16:35] <IT_Sean> how... would that even work?
[16:35] <IT_Sean> you would need multiple comzintas and gozoutas that do not exist on the raspi...
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[16:35] <Rydekull> Well, that's what im trying to figure out :-)
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[16:36] <Rydekull> can it be done in some smart way
[16:36] <IT_Sean> I'm not even sure how you would begin. KVMs are fairly complex.
[16:36] <Rydekull> Essential, either finding some board or usb-gadget that can deal with the video input
[16:37] <Rydekull> then it should be doable in my mind atleast
[16:37] <IT_Sean> well, you would also need to emulate the USB stuff properly
[16:37] <patagonicus> "comzintas and gozoutas" <- that's pretty much the level at which I understand electronics :D
[16:37] <Rydekull> naturally
[16:37] <jhoffmann> :)
[16:40] <ShorTie> little black things that don't play with smoke very well, type things ??
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[16:43] <Rydekull> http://www.epiphan.com/products/frame-grabbers/vga2usb/
[16:43] <Rydekull> hmm!
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[16:46] <ShorTie> V4L is cool
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[16:46] <bertrik> isn't V4L basically a "everything-is-an-ioctl" interface ? :D
[16:47] <SgtBurned> Got my 128x64 working!
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[16:47] <SgtBurned> although the ribbon cable is a little jumbled.
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[16:59] <Phosie> Hi guys, quick question. How do I install webiopi on arch? The setup.sh file is for raspbian
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[17:00] <arcanescu> Does openelect default settings make overclock to 1Ghz or something lower than that rather than the normal speed? or do i need to do that explicitly?
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[17:01] <patagonicus> Phosie: Google says there's a package python2-webiopi in AUR. I'm not an Arch user anymore, though.
[17:01] <Phosie> Never used AUR so I'm clueless :/
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[17:03] <patagonicus> AUR was one reason why I switched to Gentoo: If I have to compile stuff myself I rather compile everything and get it from a well maintained repo than getting some packages from some users. ;)
[17:04] <Phosie> a bit of google-fu has helped me, thans patagonicus
[17:04] <Phosie> thanks*
[17:04] <patagonicus> Phosie: The Arch wiki has a nice page about AUR. You can either download the PKGBUILD file and install it manually or use … yaourt, I think it's called. A frontend for pacman that includes AUR.
[17:04] <patagonicus> Or you can read the PKGBUILD file and see what it does, most just call configure, make and copy some files.
[17:05] <Phosie> Yes, I'm about to get yaourt. :) Thank again
[17:05] <troulouliou_dev> patagonicus, all bsd and most linux allow that
[17:05] <Phosie> I cant type... :/
[17:05] <troulouliou_dev> patagonicus, not so spread but apt based too i think
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[17:07] <patagonicus> troulouliou_dev: Hmm? Add source packages? Sure, but with Arch it felt … strange. Maybe it's just me but it felt like I got half my packages from AUR. With Gentoo nearly everything is in the portage tree. Plus I like for other reasons, too.
[17:07] <troulouliou_dev> patagonicus, i forgot the ? :) cool think with arch is the peeps in the chan and the wiki :)
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[17:09] <patagonicus> Yeah, the Arch wiki is great. For common stuff I often end up in the Ubuntu wiki, but with driver issues and more obscure packages it's mostly the Arch wiki. :)
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[17:12] <Phosie> ( Unsupported package: Potentially dangerous ! ) *sigh*
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[17:14] <Phosie> Slowly getting there :) yaourt is brilliant
[17:16] <SgtBurned> Hey guys, Qq...
[17:16] <SgtBurned> Is there anyway to speed up time until it gets to 5pm? ;)
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[17:16] <Phosie> sleep
[17:17] <SgtBurned> Dont think Mrs Boss would like that...
[17:17] <SgtBurned> Or would she?
[17:17] <Phosie> sleep secretly :P
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[17:17] <SgtBurned> ;.) Suppose to be programming
[17:18] <SgtBurned> Although sleeping at "Programming" Do look similar
[17:18] <Phosie> I wish I could get away with a nap at work
[17:18] <patagonicus> "Code's compiling"
[17:18] <SgtBurned> Python ;(
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[17:18] <SgtBurned> even with this PC being a Dell
[17:19] <SgtBurned> "DELL Inspiron 8100" *Shudders*
[17:19] <Phosie> Works too noisy, I have nowhere to hide, and they would soon notice I'm not reaching my target
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[17:19] <SgtBurned> xD
[17:19] <tig|> SgtBurned: get involved with discussions about SIP call routing and the time will fly by especially if you were supposed to be doing something else :P
[17:19] <SgtBurned> Toilet break every 2 minutes and a tea break every other 2
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[17:19] <SgtBurned> Oh my, Way too exciting for me Tigl
[17:20] <SgtBurned> It's only me and the Boss lady in right now...
[17:20] <jhoffmann> it's taking all my self control to stay at my desk and not go solder a new shield
[17:20] <SgtBurned> If this were a movie on a certain Xxx website....
[17:20] <SgtBurned> xD That used to be my job jhoffmann!
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[17:21] <SgtBurned> Guess boss saw him ;)
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[17:21] <SgtBurned> or not...
[17:21] <Phosie> So that's what ctrl+Z does in irssi...
[17:21] <SgtBurned> Phosie, Did your boss catch you? ;)
[17:21] <SgtBurned> Haha!
[17:21] <jhoffmann> Stopped.
[17:21] <jhoffmann> lol
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[17:22] <Phosie> I'm not at work :) and I have no access to a computer there anyway
[17:22] <jhoffmann> i found some nifty irssi scripts this morning was playing with
[17:22] <SgtBurned> Phosie, What is your job?
[17:23] <Phosie> I make window frames
[17:23] <SgtBurned> I make Linux frames.
[17:23] <jhoffmann> I make trouble.
[17:23] <SgtBurned> xD
[17:23] <SgtBurned> Well, Times speeding up a little... but not much
[17:23] <SgtBurned> WARP SPEED
[17:23] <Phosie> So there is nowhere to nap
[17:23] <SgtBurned> Disabled toilets
[17:24] <SgtBurned> say you passed out
[17:24] <Phosie> Ha
[17:24] <SgtBurned> I did it once to skip school :D
[17:24] <tig|> Server room, I am putting up a hammock
[17:24] <SgtBurned> "Sorry Sir, Passed out"
[17:24] <Phosie> No disabled toilets here
[17:24] <SgtBurned> Oooh
[17:24] <jhoffmann> I think sleep is a disability :D Think of how much more productive I could be if they cured it.
[17:24] <SgtBurned> If we didn't need to sleep that would be awesome
[17:24] <SgtBurned> Work hours would be the same
[17:24] <Phosie> Nah, I like sleep
[17:24] <SgtBurned> Play time would be more!
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[17:25] <johnc-> if we didn't need sleep think of the hours you'd be made to work
[17:25] <SgtBurned> Back from college again?
[17:25] <jhoffmann> I like sleeping, I don't like *needing* to sleep.
[17:25] <jhoffmann> I'd be happy with flex time.
[17:25] <tig|> johnc-: exactly what I was about to say
[17:25] <Phosie> Good point.
[17:25] <Phosie> Extra hours = extra money
[17:25] <johnc-> no
[17:25] <Phosie> I'm on overtime all next week
[17:25] <tig|> also, after the pub would not be nice, sobering up awake can be a killer :P
[17:26] <johnc-> economics doesn't work that way :P
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[17:26] <jhoffmann> Well, it would adjust. People with 33% extra time would need more food, consumables, gas, etc.
[17:26] <Phosie> No, you would get more money. Say £7 an hour, with more hours you would get more £7's
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[17:27] <jhoffmann> But you wouldn't really.
[17:27] <jhoffmann> You would probably get less per hour, if the store is open 33% longer that doesn't corelate to 33% increased sales.
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[17:27] <Phosie> Damn
[17:27] <johnc-> your hourly would drop, because you're working more hours in a day people don't need all that extra money, so workers who are willing to work for less will reduce the hourly wage
[17:27] <jhoffmann> Or maybe it would, too hard to say.
[17:28] <tig|> but if everyone's wages goes up 33% then inflation would zoom up to make things more expensive
[17:28] <johnc-> but even if you could sustain the hourly wage the price of items in the market would increase because people have more disposable income
[17:28] <Phosie> I don't want to work for longer anyway. 8 hours is enough
[17:28] <johnc-> so even if you did earn more, the money itself would be worth less
[17:29] <echelon> if you guys need something to keep your pi running for 23hrs continuously, you might like this.. http://www.ebay.com/itm/310708522439
[17:29] <jhoffmann> nifty
[17:30] <Phosie> I want a UPS
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[17:30] <echelon> i wonder how long the lapdock would last without having to power the pi
[17:30] <echelon> on full charge
[17:31] <tig|> my battery pack is only 12000mah :(
[17:31] <tig|> pi runs fine from it though :)
[17:31] <Phosie> If only I had £75
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[17:31] <echelon> seems to have ok ratings.. http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00439G3WS
[17:32] <tig|> it seems expensive when compared to some of the smaller ones
[17:32] <tig|> if you could cope with having to switch supplies then two smaller ones would be cheaper and last longer
[17:33] <Phosie> I bought a tablet last week so I have no money. :(
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[17:34] <tig|> Phosie: what did you go for?
[17:34] <Phosie> 2012 Nexus 7
[17:34] <tig|> nice :)
[17:34] <SgtBurned> There is a 24k mah UPS which is the size of a cd case
[17:34] <SgtBurned> 10 hours straight on the RPi I think
[17:35] <jhoffmann> My employer is giving us Nexus 7's next month or so, will be nice to play with an Andriod without having to 'switch' to one from my ipad/iphone.
[17:35] <SgtBurned> Lucky sod!
[17:35] <Phosie> I'm loving it.
[17:35] <SgtBurned> All I get is a round trip paid to go to Germany.
[17:36] <jhoffmann> I don't know what I'd use it for, I mean I love the iPad mini for reddit/slacker and games to play on the can ...
[17:36] <tig|> I like my Nexus7 it is the right size to carry about without being too large or too small
[17:36] <Phosie> and it's the reason I'll be putting webiopi on my raspberry, to contol the gpio with my tablet
[17:36] <SgtBurned> Why not SSH ?
[17:36] <SgtBurned> I'm making an android app to SSH and control GPIO Ports :)
[17:37] <johnc-> I can't stand how the new nexus 7 looks
[17:37] <RavenII> SirLagz, ...you there?
[17:37] <johnc-> I want one dearly but it's so ugly
[17:37] <tig|> juicessh is a nice SSH client for Android
[17:37] <SgtBurned> I like Connectbot
[17:37] <RavenII> I use connectbot
[17:37] <RavenII> yeah
[17:37] <SgtBurned> But then again
[17:37] <patagonicus> tig|: I have a Note 2 for that. Fits in my (somewhat large) pocket. A nexus 7 would probably be to large.
[17:37] <SgtBurned> I'm doing it all from scratch
[17:37] <Phosie> I have juiceSSH, but I like webiopi for the interface
[17:38] <tig|> I used to use connectbot but now prefer juice
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[17:38] <tig|> I used to get wierd stuff with connectbot and irssi
[17:38] <RavenII> Guys, when trying to use http://sirlagz.net/2013/03/10/script-automatic-rpi-image-downsizer/ I get a failure saying "autosizer.sh: [[: not found"
[17:38] <RavenII> Any guidance?
[17:38] <patagonicus> There's a ConnectbBotIRSSI, I think, which was optimized for that. But I'm using weechat and I've configured weechat proxy. Never really used it though.
[17:39] <patagonicus> RavenII: Update your bash. What distribution are you using?
[17:39] <RavenII> Ra..no wait, Mint.
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[17:40] <patagonicus> RavenII: Can you run /bin/bash --version and tell me which version is running?
[17:40] <RavenII> 4.2.45
[17:41] <RavenII> If i just type [[ and hit enter...it works.
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[17:41] <patagonicus> Huh. That should have [[. I pretty much doubt that there's still a distro with a bash so old it doesn't have [[ anyway.
[17:41] <RavenII> Yeah, it does. I'm wondering if it's something with the script.
[17:41] <RavenII> I'll redownload it.
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[17:42] <patagonicus> Does it tell you which line fails?
[17:42] <Dagger2> what's the #! line at the top pointing to?
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[17:42] <RavenII> patagonicus, 6, 15, 20
[17:42] <patagonicus> Well, /bin/bash, that's why I was asking for /bin/bash --version
[17:43] <Dagger2> oh, right, the script is on the page >.>
[17:43] <patagonicus> Also, that script breaks if you put a space in the file name of the image. Or with few unlikely but possible other things.
[17:43] <patagonicus> And why would someone use "grep | awk"? That's totally redundant.
[17:43] * RavenII points at SirLagz
[17:44] <SgtBurned> Only 15 minutes left and I get to ride home
[17:44] <SgtBurned> Hopefully I dont get run over again
[17:44] <patagonicus> I've never seen the need to automate that and I've never used parted, otherwise I'd just rewrite it.
[17:45] <patagonicus> SgtBurned: "again"?
[17:45] <SgtBurned> Oh its mental round here.
[17:45] <SgtBurned> You get bullied off the road by car users
[17:45] <SgtBurned> Some $$$$ hit me whilst I was riding and I hit his wing mirror
[17:46] <patagonicus> O.o
[17:46] <RavenII> patagonicus, this is to resize an image after you create it. So instead of it being 16GB (after using dd) it'll be the appropriate size.
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[17:46] <RavenII> I hope.
[17:46] <patagonicus> Yeah, I do that manually. :)
[17:46] <RavenII> ...really?
[17:47] <RavenII> Off I go to find out how.
[17:47] <patagonicus> Sure. losetup /dev/loop0 image; partprobe /dev/loop0; e2fsck -f /dev/loop0p2; resize2fs -Mp /dev/loop0p2; fdisk /dev/loop0; losetup -d /dev/loop0
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[17:48] <patagonicus> Replace loop0 with a free loop device (losetup -f) and remove /dev/loop0p* afterwards. For fdisk you'll have to watch out, resize2fs reports the size in 4096 byte blocks, fdisk will probably use 512 byte blocks or accept raw byte numbers.
[17:49] <patagonicus> Oh, and you'll need the truncate afterwards, although I normally dd the whole thing after looking at fdisk and determining where the last partition ends.
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[17:53] <SgtBurned> 5 Minutes till impending death
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[17:56] <Phosie> http://distilleryimage0.ak.instagram.com/1bfa1d9c170711e3b53f22000a9e5e0e_7.jpg heh
[17:56] <Phosie> "Powered by ethernet"
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[17:59] <SgtBurned> Oh my...
[17:59] <SgtBurned> UK so 240v ?
[17:59] <Phosie> Yes
[17:59] <SgtBurned> Going into where?
[17:59] <Phosie> Will be connected to an old router shortly
[18:00] <SgtBurned> Ahh okay....
[18:00] <SgtBurned> Record the assplosion pl0x
[18:00] <Phosie> Not me who is doing it, but it will be recorded :D
[18:00] <SgtBurned> ;)
[18:00] <SgtBurned> Taking PoE too seriously
[18:03] <SgtBurned> Anyway, Time to die....
[18:03] <SgtBurned> Wish me luck xD
[18:04] <Phosie> Have fun! :P
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[18:06] <SgtBurned> Only takes me 30 minutes of pure 30mph goodness to get home!
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[18:07] <luc4> Hi! I read some guides around about this, but did I understand it correctly? It is possible that some USB hubs power the Pi from the ony type A connector while having the devices plugged into the hub work? Anyone who did this?
[18:08] <gordonDrogon> luc4, yes, some cheaper hubs will "back power" the Pi.
[18:08] <gordonDrogon> I have one and it actually works fine on a Rev 2 Pi.
[18:08] <gordonDrogon> it won't work on a Rev 1.
[18:08] <PhotoJim> Yes, although using a better hub and using a proper little power cable from the hub to the Pi is better :)
[18:11] <luc4> This is interesting, thanks! I noticed the Pi is horrible when it comes to USB. I tried to simply plug a UVC camera to the USB port and the kernel crashed… But when I used a hub in between, it didn't… I'll never understand USB...
[18:12] <PhotoJim> The Pi ports are ... not optimal. But they work well with hubs.
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[18:12] <PhotoJim> and if you use the hub as the power supply, it's quite convenient.
[18:12] <PhotoJim> I just feed the power input from a port on the hub. No trickery or luck required.
[18:12] <PhotoJim> only the hub is hooked to AC power.
[18:14] <luc4> Can someone suggest a good hub to do this? I see the list on the wiki, but if there is someone who can suggest one he is actually satisfied with, it might be better :-)
[18:14] <PhotoJim> I use two different ones and I forget who made them.
[18:14] <PhotoJim> (two different Pis)
[18:15] <PhotoJim> I didn't buy the cheapest hubs. I bought good quality, middle-priced ones.
[18:15] <luc4> That is good for me… just being able to do this for the moment is sufficient. I read about Belkin hubs.
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[18:17] <PhotoJim> Belkin hubs are decent.
[18:17] <PhotoJim> I use one on my desktop.
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[18:19] <luc4> Any suggestion for a good model?
[18:19] <sover> how about anna kournikova?
[18:19] <sover> sorry, wrong chat
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[18:31] <sover> Hi all, does anyone know if the hdmi_display_rotate flag applies to lxde or not?
[18:31] <sover> I'm trying to rotate the display, but I'm not running lxde and when I set hdmi_display_rotate=1, I get no results :(
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[18:32] <sover> sorry, just 'display_rotate', not hdmi_display_rotate
[18:33] <luc4> gordonDrogon: can you tell me which one is working for you?
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[19:01] <sover> Anyone?
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[19:02] <fengshaun> is it possible to configure RPi initially without a monitory? (through ssh or something)
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[19:02] <fengshaun> monitor*
[19:03] <jhoffmann> if you have the model B with ethernet, and your distro brings up ssh, you might be lucky
[19:03] <fengshaun> lucky? :(
[19:03] <fengshaun> I don't have a monitor with hdmi port, so that's the only way
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[19:04] <fengshaun> does raspbian bring up ssh?
[19:04] <jhoffmann> what about the composite video? idk about raspbian during the install phase
[19:05] <fengshaun> no, no composite either
[19:05] <jhoffmann> there's a USB serial cable you can use
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[19:05] <jhoffmann> http://www.adafruit.com/products/954
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[19:06] <garyserj> i want to use a very small neat screen like a laptop screen, but the adapters I have use VGA. I've read that it's not good to plug a VGA in with an adapter 'cos it sucks power from the Pi. I could look for a HDMI-VGA adapter with power supply but why make them?
[19:06] <garyserj> s/why make them/who makes them
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[19:06] <jhoffmann> fengshaun: wait, were you talking about arduino ide's yesterday?
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[19:07] <jhoffmann> yes nvm, i get my channels confused
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[19:09] <sover> fengshaun: I'd suggest getting a distro that auto-launches ssh
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[19:10] <sover> if you're using a home router, you can typically hop into the admin interface and find the IP address of the pi (or use nmap)
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[19:10] <jhoffmann> though the serial USB cable is really handy when you fubar your wifi settings
[19:10] <sover> that's true, but I suspect he doesn't want to wait :)
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[19:11] <Sonny_Jim> erugh
[19:11] <Sonny_Jim> Headless wifi
[19:11] <sover> if you're ordering cables either way, I'd highly recommend an hdmi-to-dvi or hdmi-to-vga
[19:11] <jhoffmann> yes, i'll be doing the friday-night-use-duct-tape projects because UPS don't deliver on the weekend stuff later
[19:11] <sover> hahaha oh yeah
[19:12] <sover> Did he say he was using wifi?
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[19:12] <jhoffmann> he didn't say
[19:12] <SpeedEvil> Sonny_Jim: better than headless r/c helicopter flying
[19:12] <sover> I'd argue not to use wifi at all until everything else is set up the way you'd like them
[19:12] <jhoffmann> i'm just speaking from experience, when my wifi wouldn't connect
[19:12] <sover> SpeedEvil: which is better than r/c helicopter flying with a monitor
[19:12] <Sonny_Jim> I wouldn't use wifi at all unless I had to
[19:12] <sover> Sonny_Jim: agreed
[19:13] <sover> I've got a freedom pop 4g adapter on most of my stuff now, sometimes just as a backup
[19:13] <jhoffmann> i have a rpi setup as a nas, and yeah, i get 3mb/s over cable, 300k/s over wifi
[19:13] <SpeedEvil> http://blogs.wsj.com/metropolis/2013/09/05/remote-control-helicopter-kills-man-in-brooklyn/
[19:14] <johnc-> lol, how do you kill yourself with a remote controlled helo like that
[19:14] <fengshaun> jhoffmann: yes, I'm on #arduino too!
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[19:14] <fengshaun> sover: do you know a distro that launches ssh? I couldn't find info on raspbian
[19:15] <fengshaun> I guess I can get a vga-hdmi adapter just for the initial setup
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[19:15] <Sonny_Jim> SpeedEvil: Beats getting killed by an R/C Lawnmower
[19:15] <Sonny_Jim> Halftime show at American Football match goes wrong
[19:15] <Sonny_Jim> Spinning blades
[19:15] <Sonny_Jim> raspbian does
[19:15] <Sonny_Jim> check sudo raspi-config
[19:15] <Sonny_Jim> Or do you mean a client?
[19:15] <Sonny_Jim> Reverse tunnel-a-go-go
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[19:16] <sover> Sonny_Jim: he doesn't have a screen, and doesn't want to wait, so I think he's looking for a raspi distro that starts ssh automatically
[19:16] <Sonny_Jim> sshd or ssh?
[19:16] <jhoffmann> Sonny_Jim: no he means launches sshd as part of the installer
[19:16] <sover> fengshaun: that would work
[19:16] <sover> sshd
[19:16] <jhoffmann> sshd
[19:16] <Sonny_Jim> oh right
[19:16] <Sonny_Jim> Hmm
[19:16] <sover> lemme find one, I thought razor's did
[19:16] <fengshaun> sover: no, I'll be using ethernet (sorry, I'm catching up on reading! :\)
[19:16] <Sonny_Jim> Put the card into another machine, chroot?
[19:17] <Sonny_Jim> nah that wouldn't work
[19:17] <sover> This one auto-starts
[19:17] <sover> http://www.linuxsystems.it/2012/06/raspbian-wheezy-armhf-raspberry-pi-minimal-image/
[19:17] <Sonny_Jim> Pretty sure the default image starts sshd on the second boot
[19:17] <fengshaun> Sonny_Jim: awesome, thanks!
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[19:17] <sover> if you wanted to get really clever, write a quick script: exec /usr/local/bin/sshd
[19:17] <Sonny_Jim> fengshaun: I'm not 100% positive though
[19:17] <sover> and call it from init.d
[19:18] <sover> you can make those modifications on a computer with an sd card reader
[19:18] <Sonny_Jim> I don't remember having to select the option in raspi-config though when I redid mine recently
[19:18] <fengshaun> sover: hmmmm good idea!
[19:18] <sover> fengshaun: both of these auto-start
[19:18] <sover> http://www.linuxsystems.it/2012/06/raspbian-wheezy-armhf-raspberry-pi-minimal-image/
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[19:18] <sover> http://www.raspbian.org/PiscesImages
[19:18] <Sonny_Jim> I'm sure there's a headless pi setup guide
[19:18] <fengshaun> Sonny_Jim sover : thanks a lot!
[19:18] <sover> pop it into a dhcp server (such as a defaulty configured home router) and get the IP from the host list
[19:18] <Sonny_Jim> hey Hydra
[19:19] <sover> np, fengshaun
[19:19] <fengshaun> yea, as long as there *is* sshd, connecting shouldn't be a problem
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[19:19] <sover> once you find the IP ;)
[19:19] <sover> sudo nmap -O
[19:20] <sover> or the router-solution I mentioned above
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[19:22] <Sonny_Jim> If they have the router login, probably easiest to find it in the DHCP client list
[19:22] <johnc-> you need a setup guide for headless pi?
[19:22] <johnc-> download image, write image, slap card into pi, power on, done
[19:23] <sover> Sonny_Jim: yeah, that's my first suggestion too
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[19:28] <fengshaun> what is a popular case for model B rev2?
[19:29] <gordonDrogon> luc4, hi - sorry got dragged away - the powered usb hub I have is from PC World,branded "LOGIK".
[19:29] <fengshaun> this looks cool: http://raspberrypilab.com/cy-raspberry-pi-case-blackberry/
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[19:30] <jhoffmann> they talk a lot about the Pi for just being a case
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[19:30] <patagonicus> fengshaun: Got one of those (in Raspberry, not black), really good. Comes with four screws and sits super tight with everything being easily accessible.
[19:31] <fengshaun> patagonicus: thanks! I guess raspberry color would fit! :D
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[19:31] <jhoffmann> i've got a few cases, i use the PiBow with the vesa mount in the living room, it's pretty tight and supports a gpio ribbon
[19:31] <patagonicus> Also got a different case as a gift, with that one the RPi shifts a bit so you have to take off the top, put in the SD card and power and then put on the top again, otherwise the card slot and power connector are not aligned with the holes in the case. :/
[19:32] <jhoffmann> adafruit has some nice acrylic cases
[19:33] <fengshaun> adafruit sells a bit over the price. At least for their electronic components (resistors, caps, etc.)
[19:33] <vlt> Hello. I want to setup my Raspberry Pi to connect to a "streaming" server and playback a h.264 video in fullscreen mode and to remain completely black in case the stream gets interrupted. Then resume when it's back. Any idea how to begin? Is raspbian a good choice?
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[19:33] <jhoffmann> fengshaun: yes, and their shipping to canada is pricy
[19:33] <jhoffmann> element14 has $8 UPS next day shipping, nearly crapped my pants it was so fast (to where I am anyways)
[19:34] <patagonicus> I think the Multicomp clear cases are nice as well. I've seen some of those (at least I think it were those).
[19:34] <fengshaun> which province?
[19:34] <jhoffmann> Ottawa
[19:34] <jhoffmann> ON
[19:34] <fengshaun> you got it easy
[19:34] <fengshaun> PEI
[19:34] <jhoffmann> Ouch.
[19:34] <jhoffmann> You could carve a case out of a potato! :)
[19:35] <fengshaun> I was thinking about that
[19:36] <fengshaun> ohhh dat timber pibow looks cool!
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[19:36] * PhotoJim got a PO box in Montana to solve the US-to-Canada shipping problem (largely).
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[19:36] <jhoffmann> Back when I had my Jeep I made a lot of trips to Ogdensburg, NY to pick up wheels, parts, etc.
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[19:37] <fengshaun> PhotoJim: how does that work?
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[19:40] <jhoffmann> my PI case http://imgur.com/a/6sQdH#P9l7zrY
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[19:41] <arcanescu> Does openelec default settings make overclock to 1Ghz or something lower than that rather than the normal speed? or do i need to do that explicitly?
[19:42] <patagonicus> jhoffmann: Wow, that looks sweet.
[19:42] <jhoffmann> explicit
[19:43] <jhoffmann> patagonicus: i need to get some cable wraps, and was going to run some copper pipe to connect it to the arduino
[19:43] <arcanescu> patagonicus: nice DT wallpaper ... scary
[19:43] <arcanescu> jhoffmann: i meant*
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[19:44] <jhoffmann> i don't remember where i found it
[19:44] <arcanescu> why do skulls fascinate people
[19:44] <arcanescu> ill never know
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[19:45] <jhoffmann> the most facinating skull i know of http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lKrWYesiWU
[19:45] <fengshaun> jhoffmann: that is one classy case
[19:45] <sraue> arcanescu, you must overvclock byself. Overclocking is something which should never decided by any Distrodevelopers
[19:45] <PhotoJim> fengshaun: I registered the address to my credit card... I buy stuff, put it as the shipping address. I go pick it up a few days later.
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[19:45] <PhotoJim> fengshaun: I pay tax on it when I cross the border back into Saskatchewan (unless they feel generous).
[19:46] <arcanescu> sraue: i thought so....
[19:46] <arcanescu> thanks
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[19:46] <fengshaun> what kind of SD card do I need for RPi? micro, mini, normal?
[19:46] <PhotoJim> Normal
[19:46] <arcanescu> jhoffmann: well the best one ever was MUMRA from thunder cats I think
[19:46] <jhoffmann> you can use the micros with adapters
[19:46] <fengshaun> PhotoJim: oh, cool!
[19:46] <sraue> you find config.txt in /flash if you want do this via ssh, before you must remount /flash r/w with "mount -o remount,rw /flash"
[19:46] <PhotoJim> you can but they generally don't perform as well as full-sized cards and they tend to cost slightly more
[19:47] <PhotoJim> but yes, you can use the smaller ones if you use the correct adapter alright.
[19:47] <arcanescu> sraue: i took out the SD and edited the config.txt ... rather than ssh
[19:47] <jhoffmann> fengshaun: http://elinux.org/RPi_SD_cards i used that when shopping for cards
[19:47] <fengshaun> thanks!
[19:47] <PhotoJim> fengshaun: only problem for me is, it's a 1:45 one-way trip so by the time I go, get my mail, grab a snack, come home, it's the better part of 5 hours. but I've saved enough money this summer alone to make it worth having. (Got it July 1.)
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[19:48] <jhoffmann> i ended up picking up two 8GB silicon power microSDHC class 10's for like $8 each at Canada Computers
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[19:50] <fengshaun> PhotoJim: oh wow, that's a lot of traveling!
[19:50] <PhotoJim> fengshaun: yes, but it's a pleasant trip. quiet highway.
[19:51] <PhotoJim> fengshaun: and I have a chance to grab some US craft beer :)
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[19:53] <fengshaun> LOL, I've heard it's US water beer!
[19:53] <fengshaun> awwwww yissss, archlinux has arm port for RPi
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[21:56] <steve_rox> anything crazy fun going on?
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[21:58] * fengshaun (~fengshaun@unaffiliated/fengshaun) Quit (Quit: bye bye!)
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[22:02] <sney> apparently not
[22:02] * IT_Sean hears crickets
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[22:02] * ChanServ sets mode +o ReggieUK
[22:03] <jhoffmann> 57 more minutes, then crazy fun begins
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[22:06] <IT_Sean> Indeed. 54 more minutes 'till the weekend :D
[22:07] * mgottschlag (~quassel@reactos/tester/phoenix64) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
[22:08] * ShorTie turns the atomic clock back 4 hours for IT_Sean
[22:08] * IT_Sean murders ShorTie, then resets the clock to the correct time
[22:08] <IT_Sean> it is 4:08 PM on a FRIDAY, DARNIT!
[22:08] <sney> harsh
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[22:08] <IT_Sean> you don't mess with Friday.
[22:09] <sney> friday is the middle of my week, so I get to watch all you nutballs going crazy on what is essentially, from my perspective, wednesday
[22:09] <PhotoJim> and hear I thought it was 2009 UTC :)
[22:09] <sney> without the emotional FRIDAY FRIDAY thing going on in my head it's pretty amusing to watch
[22:09] <IT_Sean> Well... you are weird.
[22:10] <sney> I have an unusual schedule, yeah
[22:10] <IT_Sean> that too
[22:10] <IT_Sean> And sadly, i have do get up early tomorrow. :/
[22:10] * pretty_function (~sigBART@ Quit (Remote host closed the connection)
[22:10] <PhotoJim> when I worked weird schedules, my last day before two days off was my "Friday"
[22:11] <PhotoJim> I just treated that as Friday and it all mentally made sense
[22:11] <sney> PhotoJim: indeed
[22:11] <PhotoJim> Monday was my Friday, Thursday was my Monday
[22:11] <PhotoJim> but that was a long time ago
[22:11] <PhotoJim> we didn't have this "networking" much :)
[22:11] <sney> I would like to be on the same work schedule as my friends though
[22:12] * IT_Sean used to work Mon - Thurs, at $job.old
[22:12] <IT_Sean> 12 hour shifts, though, so... spent all day friday sleepin'
[22:12] <PhotoJim> well you can be off every day all week, but it doesn't pay very well :)
[22:12] <IT_Sean> There is that, too ^
[22:13] <ShorTie> don't know about that PhotoJim
[22:13] * IT_Sean sets the clock forward 45 minutes and goes home
[22:13] <IT_Sean> ShorTie: No, he is right. It doesn't pay well.
[22:13] <IT_Sean> btdt
[22:13] <ShorTie> they say welfare pays more then min wage in like 15 states
[22:13] <PhotoJim> that's because 15 states probably have token minimum wages
[22:13] <IT_Sean> yeah, well, that's a bit part of what's wrong with the country.
[22:13] <IT_Sean> *big
[22:13] <PhotoJim> ours certainly doesn't pay minimum wage, even though no one here works for minimum wage
[22:14] <IT_Sean> But, lets keep politics out of it, aye.
[22:14] <ShorTie> but i do know where you are coming from
[22:14] <RavenII> Strange that trying to compile qt5 now is resulting in an error...yet I followed the same tutorial to the T as I did last time...
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[22:24] <steve_rox> i connected my rpi relay board to a usb keyboard pcb to control another pc
[22:24] <steve_rox> was able to auto control some things in some games thu it
[22:25] <Phosie> Brb switching to netbook
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[22:34] * IT_Sean explodes Phosie's netbook.
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[22:36] <Phosie> Hey!
[22:36] * Phosie (~Sophie@unaffiliated/phosie) Quit (Quit: boom)
[22:36] <IT_Sean> Sorry dood.
[22:36] <IT_Sean> It happens.
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[22:37] * Phosie slaps IT_Sean around a bit with a large trout
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[22:37] <IT_Sean> OWOWWO!
[22:38] <IT_Sean> What the heck man!?
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[22:38] <Phosie> That's for exploding my netbook
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[22:39] <IT_Sean> Well, i WAS going to give you this brand shiny new tablet as a replacment, but, now you can forget it.
[22:39] <Phosie> I have one.
[22:39] * IT_Sean gives Phosie the smoldering remnanats of his netbook
[22:39] <Phosie> her
[22:39] <IT_Sean> oh? Sorry
[22:39] * IT_Sean gives Phosie the smoldering remnanats of her netbook
[22:39] <Phosie> Phosie - Sophie
[22:39] <IT_Sean> Ahhhh
[22:40] <IT_Sean> Pleas'dta meecha
[22:40] <Phosie> :)
[22:40] <IT_Sean> What kind of tablet?
[22:40] * IT_Sean is a bit of a gadget head
[22:41] <Phosie> 2012 Nexus 7
[22:41] <Phosie> 32Gb
[22:41] <IT_Sean> Niiice
[22:42] * IT_Sean is rocking an iPad Mini and a Nexus 4 these days
[22:42] <sney> I got a nexus 7 too. I have yet to find a consistent use for it, but it's definitely a neat thing
[22:42] <Phosie> I wanted the newer one but it was out of my budget.
[22:42] <Phosie> Only complaint so far is my charger was faulty
[22:43] <IT_Sean> ick
[22:43] <johnc-> I need a 10" tab to place my original samsung galaxy tab
[22:43] <johnc-> the new ones are ugly though :(
[22:43] <IT_Sean> between the Nexus 4, and the iPad, i can do pretty much everything for work (and play!) from just about anywhere.
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[22:45] <sney> I strongly suspect my nexus 7 will come in handy for GMing this rpg campaign I have coming up
[22:46] <Phosie> I wanted a smartphone a while ago, got a tablet instead
[22:47] <sney> I have both, I find they largely do the same things, which is a lot of why I struggle to have a purpose for the tablet
[22:47] <jhoffmann> playing candy crush on the phone isn't nearly as comfortable as the tablet while on the can however
[22:47] <Phosie> I dont use my phone enough to warrant a smartphone
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[22:50] * plugwash occasionally uses his smartphone to browser the web and also uses it for tethering
[22:51] <IT_Sean> ^ that
[22:51] * plugwash has found his smartphone does a better job then the huawei mobile broadband sticks do
[22:52] <IT_Sean> well... huawei. A broken stick with a bit of aluminum foil on it is better than a huawei device. :p
[22:53] * gyeben agrees with IT_Sean
[22:53] <johnc-> I use my phone to control my home via my pi and other hardware :P
[22:54] * IT_Sean steals johnc-'s phone and uses it to turn off the airconditioning, and then sets the heat at 87f
[22:54] * IT_Sean gives johnc- his phone back, but not before chaning the unlock password
[22:54] <johnc-> sorry that wouldn't work
[22:54] <johnc-> you'd need my pin code
[22:55] * tektsu (~Adium@wsip-174-79-34-244.ph.ph.cox.net) Quit (Quit: Leaving.)
[22:55] <IT_Sean> please. It was 1 2 3 4. Jeez. Like THAT was hard to guess. :p
[22:55] <johnc-> it's a 6 digit pin code...
[22:55] <IT_Sean> 1 2 3 4 5 6 ?
[22:55] <johnc-> ...that was randomly generated
[22:55] <IT_Sean> Bother. :/
[22:55] <IT_Sean> It's not 9 7 1 1 3, is it?
[22:55] <IT_Sean> Oh, wait... that's only five.
[22:56] <johnc-> well, we know you aren't inserting any backdoors for the NSA at least
[22:56] <IT_Sean> heh
[22:57] <IT_Sean> hmm... what was 97113... ? I should know what that is...
[22:57] <IT_Sean> OH!
[22:57] <IT_Sean> Te he...
[22:57] <IT_Sean> t'was the unlock code for my old Ford.
[22:57] <Phosie> I still remember my door code for college, I wonder if it still works
[22:58] <IT_Sean> I do not miss that car, but, having the keypad on the door was kinda handy. Could lock the keys in it at the beach, so you wouldn't loose 'em.
[22:59] <IT_Sean> alright... on that note, i am off
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[23:00] * Firehopper drools over http://shop.evilmadscientist.com/productsmenu/tinykitlist/652
[23:00] * Phosie gets the mop
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[23:02] * lupinedk is now known as Lupinedk
[23:02] <Phosie> I need to get round to creating a device that gets songs out of my head.
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[23:11] <gordonDrogon> solve an anagram.
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[23:13] <gordonDrogon> that's reputed to be the best way to get rid of earworms.
[23:14] <Phosie> I'll try that, thanks.
[23:14] <gordonDrogon> Good grief. a Huge 555 timer.
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[23:18] <Firehopper> yesh!
[23:18] <Firehopper> very large :)
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[23:29] <Sonny_Jim> Still going on my epic MESS compile
[23:30] <Sonny_Jim> Taken 2 days so far
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[23:55] <sover> so we've modified raspbian
[23:55] <sover> err, rather, we've tailored it a bit
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[23:56] <sover> and made it 100% read-only, to the point where we are able to permanently hardware-modify and SD card to read-only
[23:56] <sover> and since found that our cards are no longer corrupting every few weeks :D
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