#raspberrypi IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2013-09-15

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[0:18] <davor> ALAS! it works!
[0:19] <davor> a·las [uh-las, uh-lahs]
[0:19] <davor> interjection
[0:19] <davor> (used as an exclamation to express sorrow, grief, pity, concern, or apprehension of evil.)
[0:19] <davor> oh damn. sorry for the line breaks
[0:19] <davor> well, not alas then
[0:20] <davor> AT LAST! it works!
[0:20] <steve_rox2> erm okay
[0:20] <davor> I got the MCP23017 working
[0:20] <davor> and learned how to control it
[0:20] * steve_rox2 is now known as steve_rox
[0:20] <steve_rox> i have no idea what that is
[0:20] <davor> GPIO expander
[0:21] <davor> gives me 16 more I/O ports
[0:21] <steve_rox> oh rights :-)
[0:21] <steve_rox> how expensive was that?
[0:22] <davor> $2.49 :)
[0:22] <steve_rox> must be a simple solution?
[0:22] <davor> http://www.ebay.com/itm/281090474044
[0:22] <davor> yeah it's great
[0:23] <davor> easy to hook up and control
[0:23] <davor> http://www.raspihub.com/go/714dae6a0b89dc65521f05baa21c5df41b94c349cd1c6e0cb1f4236707bb65a2
[0:24] <steve_rox> ah , ive never wired up chips
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[0:28] <davor> https://www.dropbox.com/s/ap30yfifx3ogrnb/20130915_002712.jpg woohoo!
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[0:29] <steve_rox> looks jolly :-)
[0:29] <steve_rox> gonna solder it to a pcb?
[0:30] <davor> nah this was just a test :D
[0:31] <davor> the real thing will be controlling an LED matrix with it
[0:31] <steve_rox> ah :-)
[0:32] <steve_rox> i need to think of another project idea for the rpi now
[0:34] <steve_rox> ive got a relay board for it
[0:35] <davor> nice!
[0:35] <steve_rox> yeah now i have to think of something neat to do with it
[0:36] <steve_rox> i put it into a RC car , then the rpi learnt how to crash in a whole new way
[0:38] <pksato> idea... a cleaning robot like roomba.
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[0:40] <steve_rox> heh
[0:40] <steve_rox> i did make it drive a tank in a game by hotwireing it into a keyboard pcb
[0:40] <steve_rox> kinda amuseing
[0:42] <davor> hahaha that sounds fun
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[0:45] <steve_rox> took a while to map the pcb combination tho
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[0:48] <steve_rox> one of them gas sensors on the rpi may be interesting but i dont really know how
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[0:55] <davor> I've got one of these steve_rox http://www.ebay.com/itm/390639360160
[0:55] <davor> heck you don't even need a Pi for that
[0:55] <davor> it has an LED which lights up when you blow cigarette smoke for example into it
[0:55] <steve_rox> i dont smoke ;-)
[0:56] <steve_rox> make python script to display skullcross bones when detecting it?
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[0:58] <davor> yeah that could be fun hehe
[0:58] <davor> you can burn a piece of paper or something too
[0:58] <davor> I'll order an MQ4 board to detect farts
[0:59] <ShorTie> congradulations davor
[0:59] <steve_rox> :-D
[0:59] <davor> thanks ShorTie
[0:59] <steve_rox> "warning clear the room! fart detected!"
[1:00] <davor> hahaha
[1:00] <davor> yeah something like that hopefully :p
[1:00] <steve_rox> what will the rpi do for us next :-D
[1:00] <davor> who knows! :D
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[1:02] <steve_rox> i could order one of them sensors but id need a wireing diagram/example query code since im clueless :-P
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[1:05] <ShorTie> expiriance is the best teacher
[1:06] <steve_rox> yup
[1:06] <steve_rox> some utube vids point you in the right direction but i havent found one related to this yet
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[1:33] <buzzsaw> I need to order a powered usb hum any recomendations?
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[3:07] <MobGod> anyone around for a problem, when i plug -in my wifi i lose my mouse and keyboard
[3:07] <MobGod> just looking to see what i can do to fix thisd
[3:07] <MobGod> this*
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[3:10] <pksato> replace the PSU for one more powerfull
[3:10] <pksato> or use a external powered usb hub
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[3:11] <MobGod> pksato so it's a power issue ?
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[3:14] <pksato> seems to
[3:15] <MobGod> pksato oj thanks
[3:15] <MobGod> ok*
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[3:17] <payroll> hello
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[8:38] <zsentinel> is there a way to do a motor controller with the pi without spending $50 on a gertboard?
[8:39] <zsentinel> or spending $30 on a adapter board to use a shield?
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[9:51] <Chetic> what's the proper term to google for when looking for a components power requirements?
[9:51] <Chetic> as in how much current it will draw, max
[9:52] <mgottschlag> "datasheet".
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[9:53] <Chetic> does not work with the camera board
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[9:53] <Chetic> that datasheet is all software it seems
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[9:58] <Chetic> I can't seem find anything on the power requirements for the camera board
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[9:58] <mgottschlag> I just found one post in the rpi forums with ">200mA"
[9:59] <Chetic> that is a lot..
[10:00] <mgottschlag> (although that might include parts of the power requirement of the SoC during video recording)
[10:00] <Chetic> yeah I need a datasheet
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[10:45] <Chetic> so am I correct in that the model B power supply can supply the board with 1000mA, and the board without extra peripherals will never draw more than 700mA?
[10:46] <shiftplusone> there is no on-board power supply on either.
[10:46] <shiftplusone> Neither should draw more than about 850mA.
[10:46] <shiftplusone> If they're approaching 750mA, that's bad.
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[10:46] <Chetic> neither as in model B or A?
[10:47] <shiftplusone> yup
[10:47] <Chetic> the thing is, I have peripherals I want to connect that at the very worst will draw 330mA
[10:47] <Chetic> is that safe to draw from the 3v3 pin?
[10:47] <Chetic> I won't use hdmi or ethernet
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[10:48] <shiftplusone> I think the board was designed with about 50mA in mind for the 3.3v rail of the GPIO. You probably could get away with 330mA, but I wouldn't recommend it.
[10:48] <shiftplusone> Do you need USB?
[10:48] <mgottschlag> I don't think you can draw that much from the 3.3V regulator
[10:48] <Chetic> I don't need usb
[10:49] <mgottschlag> that regulator is linear, so it will become pretty hot at that current
[10:49] <shiftplusone> you can disable the controller on the model B to reduce the power usage substantially
[10:49] <shiftplusone> only if you don't need usb or ethernet though.
[10:49] <Chetic> usb draws current even though nothing is connected?
[10:49] <Chetic> I really don't
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[10:49] <shiftplusone> but that won't help you draw 330mA from the regulator though.
[10:49] <Chetic> mgottschlag: that is sad to hear
[10:50] <mgottschlag> Chetic: I might be wrong of course
[10:50] <Chetic> I will look it up
[10:50] <mgottschlag> I don't know how much current the pi already draws at 3.3V
[10:50] <Chetic> but it does sound like I need an external regulator
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[10:51] <mgottschlag> if you use an external regulator, you also should have a look at whether you want a separate 5V supply (or supply the pi via GPIO) so that you don't draw too much current through the polyfuse on the pi
[10:52] <Chetic> I was planning on supplying it via gpio
[10:52] <Chetic> but I hadn't thought of that
[10:52] <shiftplusone> And yes, if the usb controller is enabled with nothing plugged in, you you waste a lot of power (about a third), since the ethernet chip is a jerk.
[10:52] <Chetic> hah
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[11:08] <Chetic> which regulator does the camera board use?
[11:09] <shiftplusone> NCP1117 I think
[11:09] <shiftplusone> oh sorry, scratch that
[11:09] <h1nd> hello. I have installed "ez-ipupdate" to update my public WAN IP to one of my DynDNS-accounts. But I only can use "eth0" interface in ez-ipupdate's config, but that won't work because my RPi is behind the NAT router. How do I tell ez-ipupdate to get its WAN ip by a web url like "http://ipecho.net/plain" ? Any clues?
[11:09] <shiftplusone> The camera has its own regulator?
[11:10] <Chetic> it does? heh
[11:11] <ShorTie> hind, can configure the router keep the ip address up date ??
[11:11] <shiftplusone> .... I doubt it. But if it uses the 3.3v rail of the pi, then the one I said.
[11:11] <Chetic> no it can't use the 3v3 rail if that's limited to 50mA
[11:14] <shiftplusone> It's not. It's just that the pi was designed with the assumption that people may draw 50mA extra from the 3.3v rail.
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[11:15] <zsentinel> is there a way to run a dc motor off the pi without a $50 gertboard?
[11:15] <shiftplusone> but yes, 300mA is too much to try to draw, I think.
[11:15] <zsentinel> or spending $40 on a arduino shield adapter board + a motor shield?
[11:15] <zsentinel> which costs even more than the gertboard
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[11:16] <ShorTie> it is best to power other things from there own source, the rPi was designed just to control them not power them
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[11:16] <linuxstb> Anyone here got nfsroot working on their Pi with the 2013-07-26 Raspbian? I've tried it, and it boots, but failed to mount /proc and /dev/pts so wasn't usable…
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[11:16] <shiftplusone> zsentinel, make your own circuit. At the bare minimum, you need to provide a voltage for the motor and a transistor to drive it. In some cases you may need a relay.
[11:17] <zsentinel> shiftplusone: like this? https://sites.google.com/site/arduinosoapy29/motor-speed-controller
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[11:17] <shiftplusone> Looks about right, yes.
[11:17] <zsentinel> that is for an ardruino but i assume the circuit will also work with the rpi
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[11:17] <zsentinel> ok cool thanks
[11:18] <shiftplusone> np
[11:18] <zsentinel> i assume there are no inexpensive motor controllers for the rpi yet?
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[11:18] <zsentinel> the gertboard is great but its a lot of features i am paying for that i dont need (plus a monsterously large board)
[11:20] <zsentinel> making it more complicated i am hoping to use a stepper motor (it's to turn the tuning knob on a variable tuning capacitor for a magnetic loop antenna, so if i could preset the bands with a stepping motor i would be in good shape)
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[11:22] <zsentinel> i guess the piface is also an option, still expensive like the gertboard but at least a lot smaller
[11:23] <shiftplusone> If you don't want to make your own board, you will always pay a premium
[11:24] <ShorTie> zsentinel, how about sumfin like this maybe http://dx.com/p/l298n-stepper-motor-driver-controller-board-for-arduino-120542?tc=USD&gclid=CMHop5-KzbkCFQSf4Aod3gwAUg
[11:24] <zsentinel> ShorTie: but will that work directly with an rpi?
[11:24] <zsentinel> i was under the impression using arduino boards requires a $40 adapter board
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[11:24] <zsentinel> if not this would be perfect
[11:25] <shiftplusone> it's designed to work with 5v, not 3.3v... it may work, but you would have to check.
[11:25] <ShorTie> oh i really do not know having never played with one
[11:26] <zsentinel> ok cool i will do some research, thanks
[11:26] <zsentinel> Control signal input voltage range: 4.5~5.5V (high) / 0V (low)
[11:26] <zsentinel> seems it might work
[11:27] <zsentinel> if i understand that correctly
[11:28] <ShorTie> if it has to have 5 volts to control it, you will need to go thru a logic level convertor to get there
[11:28] <zsentinel> but if it says 4.5-5.5v (high) / 0v (low), i assume it has a wide range?
[11:29] <shiftplusone> no, it's saying it expects a high signal to be between 4.5 and 5.5v.
[11:29] <shiftplusone> and you're going to give it 3.3v
[11:29] <zsentinel> oh i got ya
[11:29] <zsentinel> duh, now i get it lol
[11:29] <zsentinel> off 0v, on 4.5-5.5v
[11:29] <zsentinel> ive been up way too long i guess
[11:30] <zsentinel> well i guess i could do my project off an arduino but adding ethernet to one is going to end up costing more than a pi
[11:31] <shiftplusone> .... I am still a little baffled by why you don't just use a transistor O_o
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[11:32] <zsentinel> i was just hoping for a nice pre built motor controller package
[11:32] <zsentinel> i dont want a messy breadboard
[11:32] <shiftplusone> But you won't want to pay for those O_o
[11:33] <shiftplusone> Then don't build on a messy breadboard. Use a stripboard or a veroboard.
[11:33] <zsentinel> that is why i am inquiring on a dedicated one that is a lot cheaper
[11:33] <ShorTie> it is only messy if you make it that way
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[11:36] <zsentinel> ill probably just go with the piface
[11:36] <shiftplusone> >_<
[11:37] <zsentinel> nvm it cant handle stepper motors w/o another board
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[11:42] <zsentinel> http://www.raspberrypi-spy.co.uk/2012/07/stepper-motor-control-in-python/
[11:42] <zsentinel> this looks like a possible canidate
[11:42] <zsentinel> candidate
[11:43] <zsentinel> not sure it has the torque though will need to figure that out, but if it can then this might be a good option
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[11:48] <gordonDrogon> morning everyone.
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[11:48] <gordonDrogon> those little steppers are neat, but have virtually no torques - just about enough to make a Pi on a platform move...
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[11:53] <ShorTie> mornin
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[11:56] <cougarten> hi. the rasperries arm is really good for crunching away fft, right? is it faster than my big-ass laptop which prefers floating point stuff?
[11:57] <SpeedEvil> No.
[11:57] <SpeedEvil> it is substantially worse, unless your laptop is from 1996.
[11:57] <cougarten> ok, thank you :)
[11:57] <cougarten> i guessed so, but some dude at a party claimed otherwise (:
[11:58] <cougarten> or can the raspberry use it's grafics chip for it?
[11:58] <SpeedEvil> in principle yes.
[11:58] <mgottschlag> yes, but even then you only have 24GFLOPS
[11:58] <SpeedEvil> in practice - no.
[11:58] <SpeedEvil> (for general computation)
[11:58] <mgottschlag> hm? FFT in GLES should work, shouldn't it?
[11:58] <SpeedEvil> The GPU is not open-source.
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[11:59] <cougarten> right. ok :) thank you
[11:59] <cougarten> and if you say it's substantially worse, how is the latency?
[12:00] <mgottschlag> http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.4.1895&rep=rep1&type=pdf <- if a geforce 5800 can do fft, so can the pi :)
[12:00] <cougarten> oh, got to leave, but thanks a lot, I'll read that later and see if you wrote anything else
[12:01] <mgottschlag> actually, that paper probably is outdated, so might not be the best starting point
[12:01] <mgottschlag> SpeedEvil: but I don't see how the closed source nature should make OpenGL less interesting
[12:03] <SpeedEvil> I should have been clearer - there is the 'GPU' - which does GPUy things - and there is the DSP functionality which is really part of the GPU - and is used for stuff like h.264 encoding
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[12:04] <SpeedEvil> there is no reason that the second part can't run essentially arbitrary code - other than there are no docs.
[12:04] <SpeedEvil> Fundamentally - a low-power embedded GPU is not going to be comparable with the GPU in even a older laptop.
[12:05] <SpeedEvil> Perhaps not 1996, but ...
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[13:04] <lord4163> Hello!
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[13:05] <lord4163> I set up OpenVPN on my Pi using this tutorial http://raspberrypihelp.net/tutorials/1-openvpn-server-tutorial. Is there any way to speed it up, it's very slow :(
[13:07] <cougarten> is there a way to make the rasperry a server for my old win-xp aged printer, without needing drivers on my win 7 machine?
[13:08] <cougarten> right now I got an old and now becoming insecure win-xp laptop for that purpose and keep running arround with a thumbdrive
[13:08] <lord4163> cougarten: you wanna make the raspberry your printer server?
[13:08] <lord4163> cougarten: you will still need the printer drivers on your clients.
[13:09] <Encrypt> lord4163, right
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[13:09] <Encrypt> I use my Pi as a Web, Mail, file and printer server
[13:09] <cougarten> lord4163, jup, i feared so... i could only script something and print to a pdf which gets printed automatically...
[13:10] <plugwash> lord4163, that isn't entirely true
[13:10] <lord4163> cougarten: but why can't you install the printer drivers on the client?
[13:10] <cougarten> no win-7 drivers
[13:11] <lord4163> cougarten: have you tried to install them?
[13:11] <plugwash> you can setup samba with cups so that the client uses a generic postscript driver
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[13:11] <plugwash> and then cups converts to whatever the printer needs
[13:12] <cougarten> lord4163, yes, really impossible on 64bit, forgot if there is a workarround with vista drivers and 32bit, but i don't think so
[13:12] <SpeedEvil> cougarten: Do linux drivers exist for the printer
[13:12] <SpeedEvil> cups
[13:12] <cougarten> plugwash, ah, sounds interesting, thx
[13:12] <cougarten> SpeedEvil, I guess, it was quite popular
[13:13] <SpeedEvil> Guessing doesn't always help.
[13:13] <SpeedEvil> Not all - even popular printers have drivers
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[13:15] <cougarten> SpeedEvil, only if you guess right :) there is a driver, "foo2zjs"
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[13:16] <SpeedEvil> Well - then you can setup cups to print as a generic postscript pronter
[13:16] <cougarten> and it has a wrapper that can be fed postscript
[13:16] <SpeedEvil> and clients can connect to that
[13:16] <cougarten> cool
[13:16] <cougarten> now i just need to much time on my hands :) but maybe I'll do it
[13:19] <cougarten> ah and what is the cheapest solution to protect my gi/o-pins from damage? last time i checked there where quite a few shields in the making. I just don't want to kill my pi by accident :)
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[13:27] <SpeedEvil> Don't power the connected circuit with >3.3V, and connect 1K resistors in series with every GPIO
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[13:27] <Armand> Sweet!! My domain DNS has propagated. :D
[13:28] <Armand> http://home.baked-pi.es/
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[13:33] <lord4163> So anyone knows how I could speed up OpenVPN? :)
[13:35] <SpeedEvil> Add support for ROT13 encryption.
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[13:36] <ShadowJK> how slow is slow anyway, and is it maxing out cpu, or is it just the usual usb ethernet being bad
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[13:50] <EpixP0ison> thinking about having about 48 raspberry pi's on a rack anybody got any good ideas for powering them without to much mess i was thinking a large USB hub but most wont proivde the required amps
[13:50] <Armand> Group them
[13:50] <EpixP0ison> as in
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[13:50] <Armand> Look at how many amps can be run across a single USB hub
[13:51] <Armand> Say, 4A.. That's good for 6 rPi, maybe?
[13:51] <EpixP0ison> from the n10 port i was looking at.... 2
[13:51] <Armand> ^ at a guess
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[13:51] <EpixP0ison> so its rather.... stupid :p
[13:52] * plugwash would probablly do a custom board with one big power supply then individual fuses and relays for the pi
[13:52] <Armand> Personally, I'm building a solar/USB power station. ^_^
[13:52] <EpixP0ison> what would be nice is a 48 port usb hub
[13:52] <Armand> Yup
[13:52] <plugwash> (the relays so individual Pis can be power cycled without dismantling)
[13:52] <Armand> I'm making boards with 4 or 6 USB ports.. each will run off a 5.25v, 2/3A regulator.
[13:53] <EpixP0ison> intresting
[13:53] <Armand> I'll have to update my gallery at some point, but too busy werking. :(
[13:53] <EpixP0ison> so i would be better of making my own 48 port hub
[13:54] <Armand> Yup, but I'd still break it down into smaller groups
[13:54] <Armand> Let's say the rPi uses 500mA.. you're looking at 24A draw.
[13:54] <Armand> If that supply craps out, you've just cut power to 48 rPi.
[13:55] <Armand> Opps... pardon my language.
[13:56] <EpixP0ison> yeah
[13:56] <Armand> As I'm on solar, I have a switching controller which detects the 12V and switches on a transformer if the batteries run low.
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[13:58] <Armand> The batteries charge from solar, 12V comes back up, switch off transformer. :D
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[14:20] <ciaron> Armand: you been able to source an off the shelf solar unit?
[14:20] <ciaron> ie 5v out
[14:20] <Armand> I bought the panel and charge regulator on ebay.
[14:20] <Armand> That's all 12v
[14:21] <Armand> I use adjustable regulators to supply 5.25v from that.
[14:21] <ciaron> 12v for a reason? or just easier to get hold of?
[14:21] <Armand> Easier.. I already had the batteries.
[14:21] <Armand> And, I might need 12v for other additions.
[14:22] <Armand> I'm already looking at a 7" LCD monitor that I can plug in to each unit for monitoring
[14:24] <ciaron> those rear view ones? yeah they're mostly all 12v
[14:24] <ciaron> i guess because they're designed for use in a car
[14:24] <Armand> Yeah, exactly that
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[16:07] <Mixxit> hey guys
[16:07] <Armand> Herro
[16:07] <Mixxit> i bought a class 10 card a few months ago and i think i buggered up the protected area on it
[16:07] <Mixxit> any way to recover from my pi?
[16:09] <unpopsicle> Mixxit: attack it with a butter knife
[16:09] <Mixxit> like i haven't already
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[16:11] <shiftplusone> protected area?
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[16:11] <Mixxit> i hear they have a special protected area you dont want to break
[16:11] <Mixxit> im assuming thats what i did wrong
[16:11] <unpopsicle> shiftplusone: part of an sd card is reserved for low level stuff
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[16:12] <Mixxit> i made it into a windows 7 installer for a friends broken laptop and it hasnt worked since
[16:12] <shiftplusone> You mean where the wear leveling stuff is kept?
[16:12] <Mixxit> possibly i dunno i just used the installer tool from ms
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[16:12] <Mixxit> but it didnt work since hten so i reckon it overwrote that area
[16:13] <shiftplusone> Mixxit, and you can't just use the sd formatter?
[16:13] <Mixxit> i cant find a copy for linux
[16:13] <Mixxit> i dont have a card reader for my pc
[16:14] <Mixxit> so ill have to do it on the pi
[16:14] <shiftplusone> AFAIK, you break the 'protected area' as soon as you use dd over the card, in many cases.
[16:14] <unpopsicle> shiftplusone: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Digital#File_system
[16:14] <Mixxit> oh so its unlikely that then?
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[16:15] <shiftplusone> unpopsicle, what am I meant to look at there? there's nothing special about MBR.
[16:16] <shiftplusone> ah ok
[16:16] <shiftplusone> SD/SDHC/SDXC memory cards have a "Protected Area" on the card for the SD standard's security function; a standard formatter may erase it, causing problems if security is used. The SD Association provides free SD Formatter software to overcome these problems.[71] The SD Formatter does not format the "Protected Area", and the Association recommends the use of appropriate application software or S
[16:16] <shiftplusone> D-compatible device that provides SD security function to format the "Protected Area" in the memory card.
[16:16] <Mixxit> when i try to wipe it in gparted it says that no partition table exists and when i try to create one it freezes on the screen for 4 hours
[16:16] <shiftplusone> but you overwrite it when you dd anyway, so... really the current method of installing things on the card is not very good.
[16:17] <shiftplusone> Mixxit, either the card is dead or the reader isn't very good.
[16:17] <Mixxit> it was working fine for raspbian before i wiped with the win7 installer
[16:18] <shiftplusone> Mixxit, what if you just dd raspbian over it?
[16:18] <patagonicus> As far as I can tell from the wikipedia article it is only used for Windows Media files and Windows Phone 7. If you don't use either you're fine. If you do … well, you'll probably have to google how to get the protected area back.
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[16:19] <knob> Good morning guys =)
[16:19] <Mixxit> morning :)
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[16:21] <ring0> Mixxit, try overwriting the whole device with dd and zeros. then dd the image
[16:22] <Mixxit> i did try dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/mmcxxxx
[16:22] <Mixxit> but didnt magically start working again for me
[16:22] <shiftplusone> Did you get any errors back?
[16:24] <shiftplusone> so far, you haven't actually said what the problem is... other than your computer freezing, which doesn't say much about the card itself. Does the same thing happen when you use fdisk? cfdisk? parted? Anything in dmesg? What happens when you dd and image to the card?
[16:25] <Mixxit> sorry one sec love
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[16:32] <Mixxit> shiftplusone: http://pastebin.com/Vazbrqrx
[16:32] <Mixxit> thats when i plug it in
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[16:34] <shiftplusone> Doesn't look pretty, but I was thinking more about what happens there when you try to create a partition table (not using gparted) or when you write a disk image.
[16:34] <Mixxit> parted scares me
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[16:35] <shiftplusone> heh
[16:35] <Mixxit> cfdisk i can handle
[16:35] <shiftplusone> Not a fan of parted myself.
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[16:38] <Mixxit> cfdisk says writing partition table to disk and just sort of stays there
[16:38] <shiftplusone> Really sounds like a dead card. They tend to die suddenly like that.
[16:38] <Mixxit> [ 556.107947] mmc0: Controller never released inhibit bit(s).
[16:39] <shiftplusone> (though I wouldn't rule out a bad sd card reader)
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[16:39] <Mixxit> it works fine with my other card
[16:39] <shiftplusone> ah, then maybe I would
[16:40] <Mixxit> i had to boot from one sd card with raspbian intalled on usb drive and take out hte card and put in the one i wanted to try to fix
[16:40] <Mixxit> it was a bit of a mission tbh
[16:40] <Mixxit> but i thought media like this was supposed to last for way longer than normal disks
[16:40] <shiftplusone> D=
[16:40] <Mixxit> does that mean my solid state disks will one day do this
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[16:41] <shiftplusone> My SSD died a week after I got it.
[16:41] <Mixxit> ffs
[16:41] <Mixxit> i got 250mb hard drives that still work
[16:41] <Mixxit> damn this disposable computing nonesense
[16:41] <shiftplusone> ahem, they don't look kindly upon abbreviated profanity around these here parts.
[16:41] <Encrypt> shiftplusone, Which brand?
[16:42] <shiftplusone> Encrypt, let me see if I can find it... it was a while back.
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[16:44] <shiftplusone> Encrypt, Crucial M4
[16:44] <Mixxit> http://pastebin.com/k5mp1hY0
[16:45] <Encrypt> shiftplusone, Ok, thanks
[16:46] <Encrypt> However, that's a good brand... Strange...
[16:46] <Encrypt> I personally have a Kingston V300
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[16:47] <shiftplusone> I disabled the pagefile and only used it for the OS (windows). Installed everything to the HDD, so it's not like it was getting a lot of writes either.
[16:48] <shiftplusone> So yeah, I plan to stick to HDDs for a while longer =/
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[16:49] <Mixxit> yeah im edging that way
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[16:49] <Encrypt> But Windows always writes lots of things on Hard Drives! =D
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[16:50] <shiftplusone> Not so much that it should be an issue.
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[17:00] <Mixxit> kinda crappy you cant boot from usb on pi
[17:00] <Mixxit> since sd cards die that often its not so great for a production environment having to replace the boot volume every x years
[17:02] <shiftplusone> sd cards should last pretty damn long if you don't write to them. So in an actual production environment, you're probably want a read-only FS on the card. Not that it's a good idea to use the pi in a production environment, that's not what it's for.
[17:03] <Mixxit> its a shame cause i thought itd make a neat security system
[17:05] <shiftplusone> It would. I haven't had any sd cards die on me yet. No corruption when yanking the power cord out either. And the raspberry pi devs are actually looking into why the cards die or get corrupted and are trying to make things better. It's just that there are the unlucky few who experience these issues.
[17:06] <Mixxit> i dont blame the pi i blame the sd card
[17:06] <Mixxit> i think its intentional in design tbh
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[17:07] <ciaron> it's physics
[17:08] <Mixxit> ssds are so expensive and dont last long
[17:09] <Mixxit> its like charging 500£ for a plywood bed
[17:09] <shiftplusone> I'll take two
[17:09] <Mixxit> when they drop in price ill recommend them as throwaway disks
[17:09] <ciaron> the way solid state storage works means > x writes always results in data loss
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[17:10] <Mixxit> how many writes did my pi do in 4 months
[17:11] <PhotoJim> that's like me asking you to guess how many kilometres I drove in 4 months.
[17:11] <PhotoJim> :)
[17:11] <shiftplusone> 500?
[17:11] <PhotoJim> too hard to know. depends what you did.
[17:12] <Mixxit> 10 to the power of 15
[17:12] <PhotoJim> with logging? potentially millions.
[17:14] <Mixxit> well anyway booooo to this style of storage
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[17:16] <NoseDive> Can we have this by default? http://superuser.com/questions/468663/install-mc-with-smb-support
[17:17] <NoseDive> on the one hand it's very trivial to do but on the other it takes forever to compile...
[17:17] <shiftplusone> O_o we don't really decide how the debian folks compile their packaged
[17:17] <shiftplusone> *packages
[17:18] <shiftplusone> (and the raspbian folks follow debian as much as possible)
[17:19] <NoseDive> hmm... well, the problem for me is that I can't mount with -t cifs but smbclient works just fine...
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[17:21] <NoseDive> weird how it fails only the pi but works fine on my other machines...
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[17:25] <NoseDive> maybe I'm going at wrong... where can I find a procedure to setup a qemu pi emulation? I think cross compiling like that would be faster.
[17:25] <shiftplusone> That's not what cross-compiling is, but it will work.
[17:26] <shiftplusone> I wrote a guide here xecdesign.com/qemu-emulating-raspberry-pi-the-easy-way/, but usermode emulation would probably work better. You could set up a chroot environment and that would work very well.
[17:27] <NoseDive> chroot would have worked fine. If I wasn't running a gentoo on my desktop...
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[17:27] <shiftplusone> Why does it matter?
[17:28] <shiftplusone> I am not aware of any no-chroot rule for gentoo =/
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[17:29] <NoseDive> it's extra headaches mostly... I'll need to recompile the kernel since I didn't use the right use flag for that...
[17:29] <NoseDive> no matter though, maybe I'll use the fedora machine instead...
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[17:30] <NoseDive> but I like the qemu approach better since I already have qemu setup and everything and it's not like I'll need to recompile very often.
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[17:31] <shiftplusone> the chroot approach would use qemu as well. 'course you can emulate the whole system instead if you don't want to chroot. Or use scratchbox2 to set everything up for you
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[17:34] <NoseDive> I'm just looking for the easiest and fastest way to compile a package or two. sb2 is a huge overkill.
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[17:34] <shiftplusone> Aboriginal linux perhaps?
[17:35] <NoseDive> never heard of it.
[17:35] <shiftplusone> Actually, for a package or two xecdesign.com/qemu-emulating-raspberry-pi-the-easy-way/ will work just fine.
[17:35] <shiftplusone> http://landley.net/aboriginal/about.html
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[17:35] <shiftplusone> But it's a pain if you have packages that have dependencies.
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[17:37] <NoseDive> interesting... but I think midnight commander is quite the bloat.
[17:37] <shiftplusone> aye, it would be.
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[17:37] <NoseDive> it's why I was trying to get raspbian to compile with the flag :)
[17:38] <NoseDive> btw, I'm chatting while waiting for the package to build :D
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[17:41] <davor> I need help with the software side of a project
[17:41] <davor> I want to make an audio spectrum analyzer
[17:42] <NoseDive> well, I'll be off now. thanks for that link there. I'll probably go with that qemu approach like it describes. thanks! bye!
[17:42] <davor> thing is, the music server is running on another machine. how do I read the audio output and draw the spectrum with reasonably low latency?
[17:43] <davor> cya NoseDive
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[17:44] <davor> maybe even do the entire thing on the music server machine and just send the spectrum drawing to the Pi which will then draw it on an LED matrix?
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[19:06] <crised> Hi
[19:06] <crised> Has anyone used Raspberry pi for industrial use?
[19:06] <crised> Does it supports RS 485?
[19:07] <j4jackj> What the hell? Baaaaad idea. And no.
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[19:07] <crised> j4jackj: What industrial device might be somehow similar to Raspberry pi?
[19:08] <j4jackj> crised: a massive computer...
[19:08] <PhotoJim> crised: it's probably not reliable enough for industrial use.
[19:08] <j4jackj> PhotoJim: hi!
[19:08] <PhotoJim> j4jackj: hello...
[19:08] <j4jackj> .-.-.- .-.-.- .-.-.-
[19:08] <crised> I need an ARM device, low consumption, small, high tempereatures
[19:09] <PhotoJim> j4jackj: -.-.
[19:10] <j4jackj> Did I need to know what the letter 'C' was?
[19:10] <RichardP> odd, my raspberry pi stopped outputting to HDMI without me setting it to safe mode
[19:10] <shiftplusone> crised, I would expect a guy working on an industrial system to know more about that sort of thing than us. You could maybe ask in another channel... maybe ##electronics.
[19:11] <j4jackj> shiftplusone: your name is !
[19:11] <shiftplusone> j4jackj, yes, my parents were lazy.
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[19:13] <PhotoJim> j4jackj: "C" means "yes" when it's alone :)
[19:13] <PhotoJim> or "acknowledged"
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[19:15] <j4jackj> PhotoJim: I got bored one evening and decided to make a sound program that sounds out the written dotdash notation as the real thing. unfortunately it needs to be in a folder full of files called 'dit', 'dah', 'ssp', 'lsp', and 'wsp'.
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[19:16] <PhotoJim> Heh.
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[19:16] <PhotoJim> at least it works.
[19:16] <PhotoJim> I need to resume my Morse code studies.
[19:16] <Jeebiss> x_x
[19:16] <Jeebiss> im so out of shape
[19:17] <Jeebiss> i just did a 16 mile bike ride, and i feel like a fat ass lol
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[19:17] <PhotoJim> 25 km bike ride if that makes you feel better :)
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[19:17] <Jeebiss> yay conversions
[19:18] <Jeebiss> Whats 400 miles in km?
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[19:18] <shiftplusone> nobody knows... one of life's great mysteries.
[19:19] <Jeebiss> anywho, im getting a python error, and i cant figure our how to fix it
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[19:19] <Jeebiss> im trying to run the Gist
[19:19] <Jeebiss> https://gist.github.com/offlinehacker/5780124
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[19:20] <Jeebiss> i did 'pip install' for each of the dependencies
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[19:20] <Jeebiss> (im getting the error, pi is rebooting)
[19:20] <shiftplusone> That's an odd one O_o
[19:21] <Jeebiss> ImportError: No module named flac.encoder
[19:21] <j4jackj> PhotoJim: I wonder, have you ever made a 'key'?
[19:21] <shiftplusone> Why would it even say that. I don't see any pi specific code there.
[19:21] <shiftplusone> ah... good... I was really confused there for a second
[19:21] <Jeebiss> no no, i meant i was rebooting my pi hahaha
[19:21] <shiftplusone> >_<
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[19:21] <PhotoJim> j4jackj: I own a key but I've never made one myself.
[19:22] <Jeebiss> but i googled it, and still cant figure out how ot solve it
[19:22] <PhotoJim> j4jackj: just a straight key, a cheap one.
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[19:24] <bts__> any idea why c++ compilator created reference to function "__cxa_end_cleanup", which does not actually exist? linker complains about it (however there are no external libraries to attach, it's bare-metal self-written code)
[19:24] <j4jackj> Just out of interest, should I use my computer's 1/8" jack as an audio source for a speaker?
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[19:24] <j4jackj> bts__: try g++ with an option to remove the use of the stdlib.
[19:24] <PhotoJim> j4jackj: if you want to play the computer's audio output, yes, but you'll need an amplifier unless it's a very small speaker. (or you'll need powered speakers)
[19:25] <shiftplusone> Jeebiss, where did you get that code from? I am not seeing any reference to flac.encoder anywhere else.
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[19:26] <shiftplusone> Jeebiss, scratch that. Did you install pyflac?
[19:26] <j4jackj> PhotoJim: It's a telephone speaker.
[19:26] <j4jackj> Or...
[19:26] <dheeraj_> Hii all
[19:26] <j4jackj> I could make what I am thinking of with a headphone jack..
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[19:27] <dheeraj_> I want to send data by ethernet to muy server how can i..??
[19:27] <shiftplusone> dheeraj_, what sort of data?
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[19:28] <Jeebiss> bah, i think its time for an at&t tech to come by again
[19:28] <shiftplusone> Jeebiss, I think you're missing this https://github.com/dsully/pyflac
[19:28] <dheeraj_> The data collected by BT dongle in rPi
[19:29] <Jeebiss> shiftplusone: i did 'pip install pyflac'
[19:29] <Jeebiss> ill run it again
[19:29] <dheeraj_> I need to search and send data to ethernet
[19:29] <dheeraj_> I need to search and send data to server via ethernet
[19:30] <Jeebiss> hmmm maybe i cant install it via pip\
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[19:30] <shiftplusone> and what will the server do with the data? You could use netcat, or an actual webserver and process the data in php or similar.
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[19:32] <dheeraj_> It will move it in Database by various filters in my App on server
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[19:33] <shiftplusone> What sort of app is it? what's it written in?
[19:34] <bts__> j4jackj: hm, there's -nostdlib available, but the only thing it does is to cause linker not to attach stdlib; it doesn't prevent compiler from including weird references
[19:34] <shiftplusone> Jeebiss, did pip find it?
[19:34] <Jeebiss> apparently not, im manually installing it now
[19:34] <shiftplusone> ah, well there you go then
[19:35] <Jeebiss> ill report back in just a moment
[19:35] <dheeraj_> shiftplusone: it will be written in C
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[19:37] <shiftplusone> Would it not make sense to code your c program such that it can receive data over the net? O_o
[19:38] <shiftplusone> This page seems to have all the info http://beej.us/guide/bgnet/output/html/singlepage/bgnet.html#sendrecv
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[19:43] <Jeebiss> hmmmm
[19:43] <Jeebiss> soooo, i dont think it installed properly lol
[19:43] <shiftplusone> ?
[19:43] <Jeebiss> whats the command to be able to scroll up in cli?
[19:44] <shiftplusone> not sure.... shift + Pig Up?
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[19:44] <trisquelgnu> hi
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[19:45] <shiftplusone> hi
[19:45] <trisquelgnu> i am running raspbian
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[19:47] <Jeebiss> shiftplusone: i cloned the repo and did 'make && make install' like it says
[19:47] <Jeebiss> http://pastebin.com/RYRBUf6c
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[19:47] <Jeebiss> I installed the python-dev, swig, and libflac is requires
[19:48] <trisquelgnu> the pi is consuming a lot of cpu power and things get too slow.. if i run a update or install software and the web browser together..
[19:48] <shiftplusone> Yup... looks like a lot of errors.
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[19:48] <shiftplusone> trisquelgnu, it's not really designed for multitasking.
[19:48] <shiftplusone> It's barely designed for tasking.
[19:48] <trisquelgnu> ok
[19:49] <trisquelgnu> i installed gnash
[19:49] <SpeedEvil> shiftplusone: To be fair - even asking is a bit much often.
[19:49] <trisquelgnu> and the pi almost stopped working.. and could never play a youtube video
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[19:50] <SpeedEvil> haha
[19:50] <shiftplusone> trisquelgnu, yeah, you need to adjust how you think about the pi. It's not a desktop.
[19:50] <SpeedEvil> yeah - alas not.
[19:50] * SpeedEvil wishes he diddn't need flash.
[19:50] <shiftplusone> SpeedEvil, who's asking what bit much often? =S
[19:51] <SpeedEvil> shiftplusone: 'asking' is a subset of 'tasking'
[19:51] <shiftplusone> ah >_<
[19:51] <trisquelgnu> but its a credit card sized computer..?
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[19:51] * shiftplusone is a bit slow
[19:51] <SpeedEvil> trisquelgnu: from 2003.
[19:51] <SpeedEvil> trisquelgnu: trying to run modern software.
[19:52] <shiftplusone> trisquelgnu, yes... not a credit card sized workstation.
[19:52] <SpeedEvil> With a dumb unaccellerated graphics card
[19:52] <trisquelgnu> i saw videos, showing pi running full hd videos. (on youtube)
[19:53] <shiftplusone> Yup, it can do that.
[19:53] <SpeedEvil> It can play full hd video
[19:53] <SpeedEvil> It can't do much else graphical
[19:53] <shiftplusone> not with just any software though
[19:53] <trisquelgnu> what if it is overclocked?
[19:53] <shiftplusone> Then you might get an extra frame per minute when using gnash.
[19:53] <SpeedEvil> It gets marginally less slow
[19:54] <Jeebiss> been youre also cooking your processor
[19:54] <Jeebiss> so, meh
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[19:55] <trisquelgnu> ok
[19:57] <shiftplusone> trisquelgnu, the pi has a pretty powerful GPU (for a phone), but a slow CPU. Gnash does not know how to use the GPU, so it's painfully slow.
[19:57] <Jeebiss> https://github.com/StevenHickson/PiAUISuite/tree/master/Youtube
[19:58] <Jeebiss> ive had good results with that
[19:58] <shiftplusone> Yup, there are ways to play youtube videos, and that's a good one.
[19:59] <shiftplusone> gnash, vlc, mplayer and pretty much everything that isn't omxplayer or xbmc... not going to work.
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[20:02] <trisquelgnu> so to watch youtube videos we download the videos with youtube-dl and watch with vlc?
[20:02] <shiftplusone> not vlc, omxplayer
[20:02] <trisquelgnu> ok
[20:02] <trisquelgnu> :)
[20:02] <Jeebiss> http://stevenhickson.blogspot.com/2013/04/using-youtube-on-raspberry-pi-without.html
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[20:03] <shiftplusone> You can use youtube-dl to get a link to the video itself and pass that to omxplayer
[20:03] <trisquelgnu> there is some yotube html5 that doesnt require flash or something like that??
[20:03] <shiftplusone> So you can pipe the output of one to the other.
[20:04] <shiftplusone> Yes, but I am not sure that's a viable option.
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[20:11] <trisquelgnu> shiftplusone: what exactly can i do with the pi?
[20:11] <Jeebiss> a lot
[20:12] <Jeebiss> google "raspberry pi projects"
[20:12] <shiftplusone> Run a web server, send it to space, make a rover, program it... kind of limited by your imagination more than anything else.
[20:12] <Jeebiss> Its main selling point is that its an entire computer in one small circuit board, so anything project you'd need ocmputing power, it can do that
[20:12] <Jeebiss> it cant however, replace your desktop
[20:13] <bts__> you can solve problems which you would not have if you hadn't bought it :>
[20:13] <shiftplusone> trisquelgnu, an idea https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2YtARzJTys
[20:13] <Jeebiss> has anyone tried sending flac files to googles stt api?
[20:14] <trisquelgnu> ok..
[20:14] <trisquelgnu> can i learn programming with it?
[20:14] <shiftplusone> trisquelgnu, yup
[20:14] <trisquelgnu> how?
[20:14] <shiftplusone> trisquelgnu, as an aside, one of the most popular uses it a home theater
[20:15] <shiftplusone> trisquelgnu, what programming language are you interested in or what would you like to do?
[20:15] <Jeebiss> its great for learning python
[20:15] <Jeebiss> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUOCh0Cbty8
[20:16] <trisquelgnu> learn python and create some real working program
[20:16] <trisquelgnu> ok thnx..
[20:16] <shiftplusone> lots of resources online for python.
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[20:18] <Jeebiss> google, why wont you respond to me
[20:18] <Jeebiss> x_x
[20:18] <Jeebiss> you respond when i use curl
[20:19] <Jeebiss> but you dont like my wget apparently
[20:19] <trisquelgnu> shiftplusone: ok.. but i wanted to put pi to some use..
[20:19] <Jeebiss> trisquelgnu: what do you want it to do?
[20:20] <Jeebiss> do you have any ideas for a projecT?
[20:20] <trisquelgnu> Jeebiss: actually i thought that i would connect to my tv and connect it with internet and use it for watching videos and listen to music on my tv..
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[20:21] <shiftplusone> trisquelgnu, check out openelec
[20:21] <Jeebiss> Oh, thats a common usage
[20:21] <shiftplusone> (or xbian or raspbmc)
[20:21] <Jeebiss> trisquelgnu: did you use the NOOBs installer?
[20:22] <Jeebiss> from raspberrypi.org
[20:22] <trisquelgnu> Jeebiss: but you said it can't handle flash properly?
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[20:22] <shiftplusone> You don't need flash
[20:22] <Jeebiss> ^
[20:22] <trisquelgnu> Jeebiss: no i downloaded the raspbian img
[20:22] <Jeebiss> i suggest gettig the NOOBs image
[20:22] <Jeebiss> its a good starting point
[20:23] <Jeebiss> http://www.raspberrypi.org/downloads
[20:23] <Jeebiss> you can easily install xbmc from it
[20:23] <Jeebiss> its what i used
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[20:24] <trisquelgnu> shiftplusone: openelec os u mean, for using pi as a internet media player on tv?
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[20:25] <shiftplusone> that's the one, yes. Though it works best for local media, there are addons for things like youtube.
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[20:26] <Jeebiss> bah, i dont think i am ever going to get this to work
[20:27] <Jeebiss> google just dosent want to let me use its stt
[20:27] <trisquelgnu> thanks a lot .. :)
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[20:30] <Jeebiss> hmm curl is stalling
[20:33] <shiftplusone> nap time
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[20:53] <davor> is there a way of getting the lirc_rpi module without recompiling my kernel?
[20:53] <davor> running Arch
[20:54] <ShorTie> sure it's not there ??
[20:54] <ShorTie> try 'locate lirc'
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[21:08] <kylepotts> Hello can someone help me connect my pi to my computer via serial?
[21:08] <kylepotts> I've tried the tutorial on adafruit but.. it doesn't work
[21:09] <mgottschlag> kylepotts: what did you connect, and how?
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[21:10] <kylepotts> mgottschlag: I have the usb to ttl serial cable from adafuit. I have it connected to my computer and pluged into the pi. It boots up and works over hdmi, but when I try to connect to it (putty on windows, screen on linux) all I get is a blank screen
[21:10] <mgottschlag> how did you connect the pins?
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[21:11] <mgottschlag> make sure that you connect the pi's rx to the pc's tx etc
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[21:11] <kylepotts> mgottschlag: first pin power, second pin empty, third pin ground, 3rd pin (white cable on ttl) and 4th pin (green cable on ttl)
[21:12] <mgottschlag> don't connect the power pin at all, you don't need it
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[21:12] <kylepotts> mgottschlag: I don't want to power through micro-usb I want to power from the ttl cable
[21:13] <kylepotts> mgottschlag: I dont have the micro-usb plugged in
[21:13] <mgottschlag> okay
[21:13] <kylepotts> mgottschlag: not sure what else I can do....
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[21:13] <mgottschlag> "mgottschlag: first pin power, second pin empty, third pin ground, 3rd pin (white cable on ttl) and 4th pin (green cable on ttl)" - did you mean 4th and 5th there?
[21:14] <mgottschlag> if so, try swapping those two around
[21:14] <mgottschlag> because the rx of the pi needs to be connected to tx of the other device
[21:14] <mgottschlag> ah, no, it should be correct
[21:14] <mgottschlag> hm, then make sure that the baudrate is set correctly
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[21:15] <kylepotts> mgottschlag: baud rate is 115200
[21:15] <kylepotts> mgottschlag: I followed this http://learn.adafruit.com/adafruits-raspberry-pi-lesson-5-using-a-console-cable/connect-the-lead
[21:16] <mgottschlag> I don't know, it is probably a software problem then
[21:16] <mgottschlag> maybe something on the computer not properly configured
[21:18] <kylepotts> mgottschlag: I've tried it on windows, and linux. I've followed the tutorial to a t. Not sure what else I can do...
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[21:19] <pksato> kylepotts: first test. disconect usb serial from rpi. connect together tx and rx cable (of usb serial). Open a serial terminal software, set it to dont use hardware handshake. If ok, you get echo that you type.
[21:20] <kylepotts> pksato: you mean just connect the tx/rx and not ground or power?
[21:20] <pksato> disconnected from RPi.
[21:21] <pksato> tx and rx of you usb to serial dongle.
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[21:21] <kylepotts> pksato: connect them together?
[21:21] <pksato> YES
[21:21] <pksato> Its is a test.
[21:22] <kylepotts> pksato: sorry please be pateint with me. I am very frustrated by this. Do I need to connect the power or ground to anything?
[21:22] <pksato> NO
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[21:22] <pksato> its is just a test if yuo serial adaptter is wroking.
[21:23] <kylepotts> pksato: on they're connected
[21:23] <pksato> dont involve RPi.
[21:23] <kylepotts> pksato: ok. I am using putty. What do I do?
[21:23] <pksato> Just a loopback test.
[21:24] <pksato> open, select serial port, and type any key.
[21:24] <pksato> if have a character appers, its is working.
[21:24] <kylepotts> yes a character appears
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[21:25] <pksato> Next, check if rpi still work, connect to display and power it from micro usb port.
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[21:25] <pksato> dont connect to serial.
[21:26] <kylepotts> pksato: yes it displays and boots.
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[21:27] <pksato> kylepotts: usb serial is a 3v3 or 5V version?
[21:27] <pksato> most is 5V, it can not connected to RPi.
[21:27] <kylepotts> pksato: It is the same cable from the adafruit store... so I think 5v
[21:28] <pksato> RX pin on rpi my be damanged.
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[21:30] <kylepotts> pksato: seriously? ugh... I need this for class. I have never even touched the pins... I just opened the package today
[21:30] <pksato> power off rpi. connect gnd from usb adapter to gpi gnd (pin 6), and RX to TX (pin 8), dont connect TX to Rx or Power. Power up RPi, from micro usb.
[21:31] <pksato> with putty open and connected to use serial.
[21:32] <kylepotts> pksato: so just power the rpi from the usb cable?
[21:32] <pksato> if ok. you see boot messages on putty screen. If serial console is enabled on cdmline.txt
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[21:32] <pksato> kylepotts: power from usual way, micro usb cable.
[21:32] <kylepotts> pksato: so where do I connect the rx/tx the normal spots?
[21:33] <pksato> NO. connect only RX from usb serial to TX on rpi.
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[21:33] <kylepotts> so connect the white cable to pin 14?
[21:34] <pksato> 14?
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[21:34] <mgottschlag> yes
[21:34] <kylepotts> pksato: GPIO 14
[21:34] <mgottschlag> if that does not work, try the green one instead
[21:34] <pksato> gpio 14, pin 8.
[21:36] <kylepotts> pksato: so power on from micro-usb, have ground and tx from usb cable pluggined and and connect to serial?
[21:36] <pksato> from article on adafluit, serial adapter is 3v3 logic.
[21:36] <pksato> yes. connect only half data lines.
[21:36] <kylepotts> pksato: they connect it to the 5v line...
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[21:36] <pksato> TX RPi to RX on serial dongle
[21:36] <pksato> dont connect 5V
[21:37] <mgottschlag> woah
[21:37] <mgottschlag> don't connect power to 3.3v
[21:37] <mgottschlag> never, you'd fry the pi
[21:37] <kylepotts> mgottschlag: I didn't
[21:37] <mgottschlag> ah, I misread that
[21:38] <mgottschlag> but it is 3.3v logic, but 5v supply
[21:38] <pksato> theses serials are outer pins.
[21:38] <kylepotts> still get a blank screen
[21:38] <mgottschlag> kylepotts: did you reboot the pi after you connected rx/tx?
[21:38] <kylepotts> mgottschlag: yes
[21:39] <pksato> swap RX and TX from usb dongle cable.
[21:40] <pksato> standar speed for serial console is 9600
[21:40] <kylepotts> pksato: no luck....
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[21:42] <pksato> kylepotts: is a seria console enabled OS?
[21:43] <kylepotts> pksato: I am trying it on linux, and windows. on the Pi I am using the adafruit distro of rasbian
[21:43] <pksato> no, OS of RPi
[21:44] <kylepotts> pksato: Occidentalis v 0.2
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[21:46] <pksato> chech if have seria console enabled on cmdline.txt
[21:47] <kylepotts> pksato: I've got to do some errands. Ill be back later. Thanks for all your help though!
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[21:54] <j4jackj> Hi kcj
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[22:04] <gordonDrogon> evening.
[22:04] <gordonDrogon> I seem to have spent most of it baking though.
[22:06] <sney> I could go for some cookies.
[22:06] <sney> I forgot my pi's ip address and it doesn't respond to broadcast pings. sigh
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[22:07] <PhotoJim> nmap
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[22:08] <sney> oh right, you can feed nmap a subnet, right?
[22:10] <PhotoJim> you can
[22:10] <PhotoJim> useful for lots of stuff
[22:10] <sney> I always forget about that. I haven't used nmap regularly in years.
[22:10] <sney> I should probably get back into the habit
[22:10] <PhotoJim> you should.
[22:11] <sney> now that I'm trying to have a networking career
[22:11] <PhotoJim> indispensible when you need it.
[22:12] <sney> aha, hello pi. 192.168.1.75.
[22:12] * sney writes that down
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[22:12] <monkers> sney - nmap -sP 192.168.1.0/24
[22:13] <sney> monkers: yes, as evidenced, I have found it
[22:13] <sney> I read man pages.
[22:13] <monkers> just tryin to help!
[22:13] <sney> ok! appreciated!
[22:14] <monkers> if it doesnt respond to ping, you can run that command and then just check the arp tables with an arp -a
[22:18] <j4jackj> Will this spam the internet: nmap -sP 99.0.0.0/8
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[22:20] <monkers> j4jackj - it will spam anyone with 99.x with a ping :P
[22:20] <monkers> j4jackj - just hit 0.0.0.0/0
[22:20] <monkers> (to be safe)
[22:21] <j4jackj> What about '1.0.0.0/1'?
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[22:21] <monkers> 0-128.x.x.x
[22:21] <monkers> er
[22:22] <monkers> ya
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[22:45] <justaguy> hi, is it possible to run a teamspeak server on a pi
[22:46] <sney> no, teamspeak is not available for linux on arm
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[22:47] <sney> mumble is available though. I don't know how well it performs but it's in the raspbian repo
[22:49] <justaguy> k, thanks for the answer!
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[23:02] <davor> oh hey it is there. I don't know how I managed to miss it. thanks ShorTie
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[23:10] <SanMysterious> hi, which firmware should i use when i using the linux kernel 3.11.y
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[23:27] <steve_rox> anything fun going on?
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