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IRC Log for 2013-09-26

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[0:51] <fredtja> I get these messages when trying to set up a lighttpd/php/mysql server. http://postimg.org/image/p36p4ibgx/ - using this guide: http://www.everydaylinuxuser.com/2013/06/setting-up-personal-web-server-on.html - Does anyone know why? The webserver itself and PHP works. but not phpmyadmin etc.
[0:54] <piney> fredtja, the error message says The partition with /var/lin/mysql is too full!
[0:54] <piney> what's the output of 'df -h' ?
[0:54] <piney> run that command
[0:55] <piney> bbl sorry
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[0:56] <fredtja> piney: http://postimg.org/image/fvi4yudwj/
[0:57] <fredtja> i got it on a 32gb sd card, if the partion is full, how would one fix that?
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[1:03] <piney> fredtja, raspi-config command offers an option to fill the rootfs to the rest of the SD card. that's the easiest way.
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[1:04] <fredtja> option 1, expand filesystem?
[1:04] <Sonny_Jim> I reckon
[1:04] <piney> yes.
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[1:05] <fredtja> ok, just did it, rebooted it now. could I just run the "sudo apt-get install mysql-server mysql-client phpmyadmin" again or would that be making any trouble since I did it but failed?
[1:06] <Sonny_Jim> Shouldn't be a problem
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[1:10] <fredtja> hmm, http://postimg.org/image/lco89grrr/
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[1:15] <fredtja> could apt-get remove or dpkg -- purge work to erase files and then reinstall it with sudo apt-get now that i've expanded the filesystem? or should I reinstall raspbian from scratch?
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[1:23] <ShorTie> apt-get update && apt-get update should get you up to speed now
[1:24] <ShorTie> blaaa, apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
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[1:29] <Sonny_Jim> Phew
[1:29] <ShorTie> wasn't me
[1:29] <Sonny_Jim> Found someone who knows SNES controller protocol and just had a good chat with them
[1:29] <Sonny_Jim> My SNES controlled by a Pi might just work
[1:29] <ShorTie> sweet
[1:30] <Sonny_Jim> The problem was that I was trying to bitbang the data out to the SNES through the controller port
[1:30] <Sonny_Jim> Although the GPIO is quick enough to pick up the latch signal, the clock signal is much faster
[1:30] <Sonny_Jim> So I'm going to have to add a shift register, parallel load that from the GPIO and let that clock it out to the SNES
[1:31] <Sonny_Jim> 3 days ago I would have no idea what any of that meant
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[1:31] <Sonny_Jim> The Pi *is* good for learning
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[1:45] <shiftplusone> Sonny_Jim, good on you. A lot of people don't bother with the learning part and just get intimidated because everything is not obvious. >_<
[1:45] <Sonny_Jim> Trust me, this still isn't obvious
[1:46] <Sonny_Jim> I only have the smallest idea about how a shift register works
[1:46] <Sonny_Jim> But someone more knowledgable than me about it all has said that I'm heading in the right direction
[1:46] <Sonny_Jim> And now I can say I've tried to bitbang something ;-)
[1:47] <Sonny_Jim> A very good piece of software for playing around with 74 logic series is Atanua
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[1:47] <Sonny_Jim> I recommend it, it's nagware but it *looks* like what you would have in front of you, rather than logic symbols which can be hard to grasp
[1:47] <shiftplusone> these book chapters might be good for you http://www.nand2tetris.org/course.php
[1:48] <Sonny_Jim> Oh I'm off to bed now, got to go fix pinball tables tomorrow
[1:48] <Sonny_Jim> But will have a look, thanks
[1:49] <shiftplusone> 'night
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[3:01] <EchoFox> how do i go about linking my phones music library with a raspberry pi connected to an external hard drive?
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[3:40] <opcode> EchoFox: you'd have to be more specific about what you mean by "linking"
[3:44] <EchoFox> opcode: im going to use gmot
[3:44] <EchoFox> e
[3:44] <opcode> i have no idea what that is but it sounds cool
[3:45] <EchoFox> however. i fo have a questiong regarding torrents. i want to reshare some files i download a while ago. but i dont have the source torrent file. can i still reshare them?
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[4:39] <skrator> Hi, I just bought this nokia display: http://www.aliexpress.com/snapshot/269131274.html
[4:40] <skrator> some days ago I was chatting here about it, and someone advised me not to plug the backlight leds on the rPi vcc
[4:41] <skrator> because it is 3.3V and the rPi vcc is 5V
[4:41] <skrator> but isn't there 3.3V pins on pi? (on the gpio)
[4:41] <skrator> (I'm still new to all these)
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[4:42] <skrator> I looked up on google, and it looks like there are 3.3v pins, could you confirm it?
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[4:44] <pksato> skrator: RPi is a 3v3 logic device.
[4:44] <skrator> pksato: thanks, but there are also 5V pins, right?
[4:44] <pksato> yes
[4:45] <skrator> pksato: thank you, where can I find
[4:45] <skrator> the irc logs?
[4:45] <pksato> can not connect 5V logica on gpio pins.
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[5:01] <shiftplusone> skrator, keep current limits in mind as well
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[5:18] <skrator> so it doesn't get too high
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[6:06] <al_la> quick question .. i want to connect a portable usb hd to my pi, but I worry about power (has no external power source) ... is there anything inherently wrong with having a separate power source/supply, make sure common grounds, and add a separate +5v line to hd usb line between hd and pi??
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[6:20] <PfhorSlayer> probably not, assuming you ground them together
[6:20] <zencyl> or how about a powered usb hub?
[6:20] <PfhorSlayer> That would probably be a safer solution all around
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[6:25] <al_la> probably safer, but given my ... thrifty nature ... I probably won't be buying one :)
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[6:28] <PfhorSlayer> is that poor or just stingy? ;)
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[6:36] <al_la> the later
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[8:44] <gordonDrogon> morning.
[8:49] <PipeDale> gordonDrogon: morning
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[8:59] <north> Can I meet anyone here from the RPi foundation please ?
[9:00] <Jusii> not likely
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[9:19] <north> ok
[9:20] <PipeDale> OMG
[9:20] <PipeDale> i hate openvz :(
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[9:22] <Psil0Cybin> hey guys question, if im using a SDCard Class10 how long can i expect it to last if my whole OS is on it
[9:22] <Psil0Cybin> before it craps out, or is it the pick of the draw.
[9:22] <Psil0Cybin> or is there a command that lets me see the read/write limit and how much is left
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[9:33] <PipeDale> Psil0Cybin: how longs a piece of string?
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[9:33] <Psil0Cybin> :o
[9:33] <Psil0Cybin> riddles
[9:33] <Psil0Cybin> im thinking of a whitty response.
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[9:34] <Psil0Cybin> im asking a generic question
[9:34] <Psil0Cybin> is what ur getting at?
[9:34] <Psil0Cybin> PipeDale:
[9:34] <PipeDale> Psil0Cybin: it all depends
[9:35] <PipeDale> SD cards can last ages, or a very short period
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[9:37] <Psil0Cybin> oh okay
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[9:40] <Psil0Cybin> alright
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[9:43] <Psil0Cybin> hmmm
[9:43] <Psil0Cybin> thinking of making the first ever coast to coast walki talki
[9:44] <Psil0Cybin> with the raspberry pi and mumble :P
[9:44] <Psil0Cybin> all u need is WIFI and a battery pack
[9:44] <Psil0Cybin> and a speaker/mic
[9:44] <Psil0Cybin> attached i suppose obviously.
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[9:45] <Jusii> I had 3 different sdcards running for two months with constant write/delete, no symptoms of wearing after 30TB
[9:46] <Jusii> but I managed to trash 2 kingston cards in matter of days
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[10:12] <Kymru> morning people, quick question, i have 2 raspberry pi's, just bought 2 powered USB hubs for them, since i attached the hubs, the raspberry pi's wont reboot, seems like they are getting power from the hubs, if i disconnect the hubs they reboot fine, common problem?
[10:12] <PipeDale> my Card seems spot on
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[10:51] <PipeDale> Psil0Cybin: you over clocked RPi?
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[10:52] <Psil0Cybin> nope
[10:52] <Psil0Cybin> should I?
[10:52] <Psil0Cybin> didnt touch any settings to do with overclocking and my mumble/nginx/php/mysql server is running perfect
[10:53] <Psil0Cybin> could not ask for anything better.
[10:53] <Psil0Cybin> im thinking of getting rid of nginx,php,mysql and instead making an IRC server.
[10:53] <Psil0Cybin> to create a decentralized chat hub for friends.
[10:53] <Psil0Cybin> so i will have voice and text
[10:53] <gordonDrogon> Psil0Cybin, I have SD cards nearly 18 months old in daily use in Pi's.
[10:53] <Psil0Cybin> really
[10:53] <Psil0Cybin> wow
[10:54] <Psil0Cybin> that makes me feel confident
[10:54] <Psil0Cybin> if thats the case, thats fine i dont mind getting another 8gb class 10 sd card in 18 months
[10:54] <gordonDrogon> the trick appears to be to avoid the cheap ones off ebay/etc.
[10:54] <Psil0Cybin> oh
[10:54] <Psil0Cybin> so im sed
[10:54] <Psil0Cybin> set
[10:54] <gordonDrogon> although kingston is a bit hit or miss, it would appear - I have 4 kingston ones and I suspect they're "gooduns" ...
[10:54] <gordonDrogon> the others are Sandisk. Class 6's - better performance too.
[10:55] <Psil0Cybin> im using Lexar 8GB Class 10 SDHC Platinum 2
[10:55] <Psil0Cybin> or something
[10:55] <Psil0Cybin> on every Pi i own
[10:55] <Psil0Cybin> it said it was 100% suppoted in the wiki.
[10:55] <gordonDrogon> I've not done any proper tests, but I suspect the c6's are just as good, if not better performance wise than c10's.
[10:55] <Psil0Cybin> better than class ten? explain in my mind class ten must be the best?
[10:56] <Psil0Cybin> thought of it in terms of purity, but maybe im wrong
[10:56] <Psil0Cybin> lol
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[10:56] <gordonDrogon> must?
[10:56] <Jusii> I can fully recommend samsung cards, they've been working just great
[10:56] <gordonDrogon> c10's are optimised for streaming - so lots of big photos one after the other, or video.
[10:56] <gordonDrogon> c6's are better at random access - which is what Linux needs.
[10:56] <Psil0Cybin> oh
[10:56] <Psil0Cybin> see i just learned something new
[10:56] <Psil0Cybin> ill pick up a class 6 next time.
[10:56] <gordonDrogon> and the Pi is limited to about 20MB/sec transfers anyway
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[10:57] <Psil0Cybin> alright so that should be fine
[10:57] <Psil0Cybin> lol all i want to do is order more and more pis
[10:57] <gordonDrogon> I'm sure you'll be fine with the c10's though.
[10:57] <Psil0Cybin> hope so it was 12$ for an 8gb sd card at the local walmart
[10:57] <Psil0Cybin> i find it pretty cheap
[10:57] <Psil0Cybin> if it can last 18months +
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[10:58] <Psil0Cybin> plus someone told me to make copys of my sd card with a .img
[10:58] <Psil0Cybin> and then im set if anything happens
[10:58] <Davespice> morning
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[10:58] <Psil0Cybin> i think i should do that sometime this week.
[11:00] <PipeDale> I might send my RPi to aussie land :P
[11:01] <Psil0Cybin> meh
[11:01] <Psil0Cybin> i want to keep my Pi.
[11:02] <Psil0Cybin> send your Pi to me
[11:02] <PipeDale> http://www.retrosnub.co.uk/raspberrycolo
[11:02] <PipeDale> send it there :D
[11:02] <Psil0Cybin> meh
[11:02] <Psil0Cybin> if i did that
[11:02] <Psil0Cybin> i would use my pi for a VPN or Proxy
[11:03] <Psil0Cybin> use there IP for my needs.
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[11:03] <Psil0Cybin> but you are giving them your Pi and paying them 2$ a month.
[11:03] <Psil0Cybin> you can buy a VPN for 4$
[11:03] <Psil0Cybin> and keep the Pi.
[11:03] <Davespice> yeah I'm doing something similar, but I use HMA
[11:04] <PipeDale> Yeah - what's a pi
[11:04] <PipeDale> cheap as chips :D
[11:04] <Psil0Cybin> god damit >.,
[11:04] <Psil0Cybin> so send your Pi to me
[11:04] <PipeDale> haha :p
[11:04] <Psil0Cybin> you will take pride in knowing i am putting it to good
[11:04] <Psil0Cybin> use
[11:04] <Psil0Cybin> :)
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[11:04] <Psil0Cybin> ill send you monthly pictures of what your PI is up to
[11:04] <PipeDale> my RPi is just idle now
[11:04] <Psil0Cybin> whats running on the SD card :)
[11:05] <Psil0Cybin> even letters once a week of what scripts i ran.
[11:05] <Psil0Cybin> im going to make a commercial
[11:05] <Psil0Cybin> its going to star whip to me crying because im Pi less.
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[11:12] <Th0rsten> Anyone knows if there are already working v4l drivers for the camera module?
[11:13] <PipeDale> Hmmm
[11:13] <PipeDale> Psil0Cybin: i'll send you my RPi if you run my mail server?
[11:14] <Psil0Cybin> lol :P as long as you dont get my IP blacklisted
[11:14] <Psil0Cybin> sure.
[11:14] <Psil0Cybin> lmao
[11:14] <PipeDale> as long it's fast speed too :P
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[11:15] <PipeDale> and ipv6
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[11:18] <Psil0Cybin> ahh no ipv6
[11:18] <Psil0Cybin> well i have 25mb/s
[11:18] <Psil0Cybin> i dunno is that fast enough?
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[11:25] <PipeDale> Psil0Cybin: static ip? :p
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[11:28] <D4CH_RPi> I was wondering if there's any online classes in linux.. I struggle to remember all those commands
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[11:30] <PipeDale> openjdk
[11:30] <PipeDale> i need that package
[11:30] <north> D4CH_RPi: start using Linux for sometime, even when you encounter errors
[11:31] <north> Also, working with Linux command line is not an overnight process
[11:32] <north> there are few tuts on YouTube, but best way to work around with Linux is use it, search Forums
[11:32] <north> and in case you feel it emergency, ping people on IRC
[11:32] <north> :)
[11:32] <north> D4CH_RPi:
[11:32] <D4CH_RPi> yeh thats what ive been doing for a while now
[11:33] <D4CH_RPi> just experimenting learning a little by the way
[11:34] <D4CH_RPi> But lets give an example.. I have proftpd installed, and when i installed it i added a new user to my friend, but now i forgot how to add user, and where to edit all the stuff, so i basically just let it sit there
[11:36] <D4CH_RPi> I just want to know more about the filesystem, how it works, the most basic commands and shiznit
[11:36] <D4CH_RPi> I finally figured out how to use screen and irssi
[11:36] <D4CH_RPi> lol
[11:36] <D4CH_RPi> and how to ssh into my pi
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[11:39] <D4CH_RPi> And I'm a windows guy, I can't live without windows.
[11:39] <D4CH_RPi> And my games..
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[11:50] <Kymru> does anyone know how these have been modified so there is no nack power to the raspberry pi?
[11:50] <Kymru> http://thepihut.com/products/7-port-usb-hub-for-the-raspberry-pi
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[11:50] <Kymru> back power
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[12:08] <Davespice> hi Kymru
[12:08] <nid0> they probably havent been modified, theyre just not awful
[12:08] <Kymru> morning
[12:08] <Davespice> you can do a quick hack yourself, just cut the red wire in the cable which uplinks to the Raspberry Pi USB A ports
[12:08] <Kymru> yeah i am just watching youtube now
[12:08] <Davespice> that will prevent back powering
[12:09] <Kymru> seems an easy hack, strip some wire and cut the red wire
[12:10] <Kymru> strip the outer casing
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[12:11] <Davespice> if you cut along the cable, you can just pull the outer plastic back enough to get at the wires
[12:12] <Davespice> sometimes you'll find a foil sheath too which you'll have to deal with
[12:13] <Davespice> probably best to also bend one side of the red wire back so that it can never touch by accident etc
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[12:14] <davor> if only there were a small, pocket-sized multimeter that would feed data through USB
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[12:21] <Kymru> job done on 2 cable for my powered usb hubs
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[12:50] <Jck_True> A small peice of isolating tape in the USB plug is a non destroying fix :)
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[12:50] <Kymru> gordonDrogon, following your discussion earlier, you saying class 6 would be better suited for RPI's, would this be well suited? http://www.mymemory.co.uk/SDHC/Samsung/Samsung-32GB-SDHC-Plus-up-to-24MB_s-Class-6
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[13:25] <PipeDale> Kymru: looks good
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[13:26] <PipeDale> 24 MB/s
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[13:38] <D4CH_RPi> How do I see which version of Raspbian I am running, so I can do a rpi-update command?
[13:38] <D4CH_RPi> I'm guessing a firmware update can be done over SSH?
[13:39] <Miladiir> i think you see the version number right after you establish a ssh connection
[13:39] <pksato> Yes, update can do via ssh.
[13:40] <pksato> rpi-update update rasbian too. or use aptitude update; aptitude dist-upgrade.
[13:41] <pksato> to see main stream debian version, cat /etc/debian_version
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[13:42] <D4CH_RPi> It seems I have the latest. Debian runs at 7.1 and raspberry pi says 3.6.11 #474
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[13:46] <Miladiir> Thats were you start whatever you want to do ;)
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[13:47] <D4CH_RPi> I'll try to run rpi-update :D
[13:50] <Miladiir> if youre already at the latest version, where do you want to update to ?
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[13:53] <D4CH_RPi> Dunno :P
[13:54] <D4CH_RPi> To infinity and beyond!
[13:54] <Miladiir> *cue spacey music*
[13:54] <Miladiir> any plans on what you want to do with your pi?
[13:55] <D4CH_RPi> Not really. I have minidlna setup at home, as a homemade NAS server. I have FTP enabled to share files with a friend. I have irssi to chat here.
[13:55] <D4CH_RPi> I thought of buying a new one to play with, since this one is just doing all the practical stuff
[13:55] <ShorTie> 474 seems old maybe, 'uname -a' says mine is at 538 if it matters
[13:57] <Miladiir> make sure to do byte by byte backups of your ssd, so you can go back to a working state anytime. i lost a lot of progress on a project while fiddling around with some terminal stuff and wrecking half of the settings
[13:58] <D4CH_RPi> I have all important stuff backed to dropbox
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[14:15] <gordonDrogon> Kymru, Hi - sorry - been out of my office for a while - to be honest, I've no real idea. My own experience is with a couple of kingston cards, some Sandisk cards and recently about 60 Lexar branded cards - half class 6 and half class 10.
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[14:55] <TheWarden> Hi, I was wondering if anyone in here has used this USB wireless adapter before with the Raspberry Pi, http://www.mcmelectronics.com/product/831-3058? I think it's just a typo but it states it works with Debian 6 but as far as I've been play with this it's Debian 7 (Wheezy) or what called Raspbian OS that is recommend OS.
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[14:57] <knob> Good morning
[14:58] <knob> Can I use a PoE line to communicate with the rPi? I know it won't run off PoE... yet wondering if the voltage in the ethernet cable will damage it?
[14:58] <pksato> if you use a PoE extractor and a 5V regulator.
[14:59] <SirLagz> knob: if there's POE on the ethernet cable, don't plug it into the Pi. That's what I'd do anyway
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[15:07] <Kymru> gordonDrogon, i was just going by what you said about class 6 that they are better for random access
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[15:22] <knob> pksato, SirLagz, thank you!
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[15:23] <knob> I have PoE Injectors... maybe dumb question, yet... can I "turn one of them around" and have it work as an "extractor" ?
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[15:23] <knob> I also bought via eBay some "Y" splitters... yet those look passive... http://www.ebay.com/itm/Power-over-Ethernet-Passive-PoE-Adapter-Injector-Splitter-Kit-5v-12v-24v-48v-/121100493562?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c3226e2fa
[15:24] <pksato> Injectors as extractor ?
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[15:24] <knob> Well...
[15:24] <knob> not sure.. never done this...
[15:25] <pksato> Its is a pair, injector and extractor
[15:27] <pksato> and one of this http://www.ebay.com/itm/DC-DC-Converter-Step-Down-Module-12V-to-5V-24V-to-5V-USB-Output-Power-Adapter-/200958981976?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2eca16b758
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[15:47] <knob> pksato... will that work with the PoE's 48v ?
[15:47] <knob> Not sure about that on my side... or if there's another way I can do it!
[15:50] <knob> I found this one: http://www.ebay.com/itm/GIGABIT-POWER-OVER-ETHERNET-Adapter-Injector-Extractor-Passive-POE-Kit-Cat6-/330935464589?pt=UK_Computing_Splitters_Couplers_Adapters&hash=item4d0d4a728d
[15:50] <knob> Yet it says it's is passive... don't know what that means
[15:51] <pksato> it is same that other, only diff is for gbps.
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[15:52] <pksato> passive = no power, you need to provider the power.
[15:52] <mgottschlag> knob: basically, ethernet is isolated through "magnetics", basically transformers plugged to a wire pair
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[15:53] <knob> ok ok... thanks guys
[15:53] <mgottschlag> and in this case passive probably means that there are no additional active components next to something isolating like that
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[15:54] <pksato> these PoE is for two pair ethernet link.
[15:57] <pksato> for short length (5m), can inject 5V and connect direct to RPi.
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[16:40] <Patteh> hi all, anyone have experience with a pi booting to a screen of a single solid colour?
[16:40] <Patteh> mine just boots to a fully red screen now
[16:40] <Patteh> ove hdmi
[16:41] <Patteh> latest raspbmc installed
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[16:46] <chris_99> i have my Pi booting to a black screen
[16:46] <chris_99> if that's any help
[16:46] <chris_99> oh you mean you don't want it to do that
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[16:47] <guysoft42> hey all, I got a 315Mhz ASK transmitter like this: http://www.robotshop.com/seeedstudio-315mhz-rf-low-cost-transmitter-receiver-pair-3.html now I want to connect it to a raspberry pi, which only gives 3.3V and not the minimum 3.5V. Should I use a voltage divider to get around this problem? any better circuit?
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[16:49] <mgottschlag> guysoft42: is there any documentation for that module?
[16:50] <mgottschlag> also, do you mean supply voltage or input/output voltage? the pi has a 5v supply, but you might have to do at least some level conversion for communication lines
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[18:15] <Kane> kikou
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[18:34] <lmjabreu> Are there any development raspbian images? I've bumped into a hang caused by a usb reset that seems to be fixed in the latest kernel, would rather installing the whole thing than recompiling the kernel on the pi
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[18:38] <Jusii> grab the latest kernel and modules from here? https://github.com/raspberrypi/firmware
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[18:42] <leonixyz> Hello, does anybody know how (if it is possible) to pass to the kernel the argument root=UUID=.... ?
[18:42] <lmjabreu> ah sweet! thanks
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[18:52] <sKeiths> on raspbian, ftp comes back as command not found. is there no command line ftp?
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[18:54] <sKeiths> nevermind. 'apt-get install ftp' installed the 140k file.
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[18:59] <Jusii> leonixyz: yes you can, put your kernel cmdline to cmdline.txt file
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[19:10] <DocMAX> hi there
[19:10] <DocMAX> pyload is freezing :-(
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[19:22] <gordonDrogon> wow. almsot evening already.
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[20:59] <[diecast]> is there a recommended 7-10" touch screen for the pi?
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[21:06] <Kane> don't know [diecast], but a friend have showed me this one and it look very promising: http://www.ebay.fr/itm/Diy-Monitor-for-Raspberry-Pi-HDMI-VGA-2AV-Lcd-Driver-7-AT070TN92-Touch-Screen-/121119934991?pt=US_Server_Boards&hash=item1c334f8a0f
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[21:08] <[diecast]> Kane thanks
[21:08] <[diecast]> good price i think
[21:09] <Kane> for this size yep
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[21:40] <EpixP0ison> is there a hard limit on overcl;ocking the pi ? also does anybody know if theres some kind of overclock record
[21:40] <EpixP0ison> ive just got mine to 2ghz :/
[21:40] <maxinux> lol, just that you will fry your sd cards
[21:40] <EpixP0ison> no overvolt and a masive heatsink :/
[21:40] <maxinux> just run the thing in a freezer in a bath of alcohol
[21:40] <EpixP0ison> stable too
[21:41] <EpixP0ison> oh even better
[21:41] <EpixP0ison> i have my server 40mm fans on it
[21:41] <EpixP0ison> 4 of them
[21:41] <EpixP0ison> load and the CFM is so intense
[21:41] <maxinux> thats the old standby (freezer) but the size of a pie lends itself to it well
[21:41] <queretaro> EpixP0ison, what was your goal? I'm curious lol
[21:41] <EpixP0ison> to be honest
[21:41] <EpixP0ison> i dont have one :/
[21:41] <EpixP0ison> just wanted to experiment
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[21:42] <EpixP0ison> super glue + heatsink from old psu + thermal paste + tie wraps + config = 2ghz
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[21:42] <maxinux> or oil submerged
[21:42] <EpixP0ison> im just wondering if there has ever been a record im thinking i could prehaps 2.5ghz with overvolt
[21:43] <Kane> more than 200% usage, i wonder how much the pi lifetime may be cut with that
[21:43] <EpixP0ison> i havnt risked going over 2
[21:43] <EpixP0ison> yeh :p
[21:43] <EpixP0ison> 100GHZ i wish :3
[21:43] <EpixP0ison> imagine the heatsink :3
[21:43] <EpixP0ison> right i shall go for a 2.1
[21:43] <Kane> try this with the 64 core paralella :p
[21:44] <EpixP0ison> there is a 100 core cpu btw :p
[21:44] <queretaro> lol
[21:44] <EpixP0ison> id love that on the pi
[21:44] <EpixP0ison> 1ghz per core
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[21:46] <EpixP0ison> 2.1ghz no overvolt and working
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[21:47] <EpixP0ison> does the pi have any cpu therms?
[21:48] <EpixP0ison> would be nice to see the temp on 2.1
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[21:49] <Jusii> yes
[21:49] <EpixP0ison> cant find anything for it in proc
[21:49] <EpixP0ison> :/
[21:49] <Jusii> cat /sys/class/thermal/thermal_zone0/temp
[21:51] <EpixP0ison> and lm-sensors was no use
[21:51] <EpixP0ison> thanks
[21:51] <EpixP0ison> 30399
[21:51] <EpixP0ison> O.o
[21:51] <EpixP0ison> i presume this is missng the decimal somehwere
[21:51] <EpixP0ison> 30.399c im guessing
[21:51] <Jusii> right
[21:52] <EpixP0ison> :3 yay so its actually a ok temp for 2.1 ghz
[21:52] <Jusii> hoho
[21:52] <Jusii> vcgencmd measure_temp should work too
[21:53] <EpixP0ison> thanks
[21:53] <EpixP0ison> might take a pic of my homwhade crappy heatsink on the pi
[21:54] <Jusii> please do
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[21:55] <EpixP0ison> now my phone is playing u8p and being slow -_-
[21:56] <EpixP0ison> i thinki also have a crappy copy model too :/ but i only paid �10 so i cant moan
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[22:02] <EpixP0ison> just uploading the photo
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[22:08] <EpixP0ison> http://sphotos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/528233_218956858270736_1604808720_n.jpg
[22:08] <Jusii> ahhah
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[22:09] <IT_Sean> wow.
[22:09] <EpixP0ison> masive i know
[22:09] <IT_Sean> um.
[22:09] <EpixP0ison> shitty i know
[22:09] <EpixP0ison> but..... it works
[22:09] <IT_Sean> you do know that the Pi doesn't need active cooling. ...right?
[22:09] <EpixP0ison> at 2.1ghz
[22:09] <EpixP0ison> i disagree
[22:10] <Jusii> :)
[22:10] <IT_Sean> also, please take note of the channel language policy, EpixP0ison!
[22:10] <EpixP0ison> whoops :p
[22:10] <IT_Sean> It is clearly posted in the topic
[22:10] <EpixP0ison> http://sphotos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/1243992_218957308270691_1279435707_o.jpg
[22:10] <EpixP0ison> so yes 2.1ghz i have a feeling without the cooling it might be rather hot
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[22:10] <IT_Sean> Ahh, i see. you are OC'd
[22:10] <EpixP0ison> i just went a little OTT on cooling L.#
[22:10] <IT_Sean> Then yeah... it needs cooling. :p
[22:11] <djazz> my pi didnt boot. it said missing inittab file. i opened sd card on my laptop, /etc folder was empty! lol :D
[22:11] <EpixP0ison> is 4 40mm server fans that have a masive cfm a lil to much :p
[22:11] <IT_Sean> djazz: well THERES your problem!
[22:11] <djazz> back to reflashing!
[22:11] <IT_Sean> EpixP0ison: does it lift off and hover when you turn it on!? (O_o)
[22:11] <djazz> luckily /home/pi was not empty
[22:11] <EpixP0ison> i wish :(
[22:11] <EpixP0ison> the fans thewmself do if there not weighed down
[22:12] <IT_Sean> that's awesome!
[22:12] <djazz> HoverPi!
[22:12] <IT_Sean> Use 'em to make a quadcoptor!!!!
[22:12] <EpixP0ison> bit of super glue thermal paste tie wrap old psu heatsink and you have yourself a 2.1ghz pi
[22:12] <EpixP0ison> oh and a sperate usb connector
[22:12] <pksato> next, helliun cooling?
[22:12] <EpixP0ison> powering the fans on the pi would bve just.... no
[22:13] <EpixP0ison> well my dad works with dry ice alot so co2 maybe
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[22:14] <EpixP0ison> i still think 2.1ghz must be a kind of record
[22:14] <EpixP0ison> especially without the overvolt
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[22:14] <djazz> how much faster does it feel?
[22:15] <EpixP0ison> well i only use cli so you dont "feel" it so much
[22:15] <EpixP0ison> but theb oot compared to 700mhz
[22:15] <EpixP0ison> so much faster :3
[22:15] <djazz> try compile something or run lxde
[22:15] <EpixP0ison> hmm or maybe do some hash tests
[22:16] <EpixP0ison> give it a real challange
[22:16] <pksato> compiling use more I/O that cpu. hum,,, ray tracyng,
[22:16] <EpixP0ison> sysbench cpu test
[22:16] <EpixP0ison> :3
[22:17] <gbaman> epixp0ison, how far you overvolting it?
[22:17] <EpixP0ison> i havnt
[22:17] <EpixP0ison> thats the cool part
[22:17] <gbaman> ...
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[22:17] <gbaman> what?
[22:17] <EpixP0ison> ikr
[22:17] <EpixP0ison> im thinking if i overvolt it could goto 2.5ghz
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[22:18] * gbaman demands a video :)
[22:18] <EpixP0ison> i really just dont understand
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[22:18] <gbaman> are you sure it is reading the config file?
[22:18] <EpixP0ison> of what
[22:18] <EpixP0ison> i dont do nudes
[22:18] <EpixP0ison> :3
[22:18] <EpixP0ison> im 100%
[22:18] <EpixP0ison> as whern i put it to 3ghz just to be sure
[22:18] <EpixP0ison> it wouldnt boot
[22:18] <EpixP0ison> 2.2ghz dosnt work
[22:19] <EpixP0ison> so i am at the limit unless i overvolt
[22:19] <EpixP0ison> starting the cpu test
[22:19] <EpixP0ison> sysbench --test=cpu --cpu-max-prime=20000 run
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[22:20] <EpixP0ison> the test may take some time so ima go for a cig
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[22:21] <gbaman> I am a bit skeptical, have never seen a pi stable past 1.4
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[22:27] <EpixP0ison> still waiting on the benchmark
[22:27] <EpixP0ison> i could do a video if you really wanted
[22:28] <EpixP0ison> the benchmark is maxing out the cpu and its still alive so it must be doing ok :/
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[22:29] <djazz> yay finally got Tremulous working on the pi! had to use an older version that uses pure ioquake3 engine
[22:30] <djazz> about 16 fps without overclocking
[22:30] <gbaman> try check the current cpu speed in another terminal epixp0ison with cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_cur_freq
[22:30] <EpixP0ison> ok
[22:31] <gbaman> it may be the cpu scaler isnt bring it right up
[22:31] <EpixP0ison> 700000
[22:31] <EpixP0ison> O.o
[22:31] <EpixP0ison> wait
[22:31] <EpixP0ison> so 700mhz O.o
[22:31] <gbaman> hmm
[22:31] <djazz> is it ondemand?
[22:32] <gbaman> if it is running a benchmark currently, the on demand scaler should have brought it up to max
[22:32] <gbaman> maybe it has hard limits
[22:32] <EpixP0ison> or maybe
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[22:32] <EpixP0ison> the oc somehow didnt work
[22:32] <EpixP0ison> personly i think 2.1 is to much
[22:32] <EpixP0ison> but then when i do 2.2 it wont boot
[22:32] <EpixP0ison> so maybe it is being read
[22:32] <gbaman> hmm
[22:32] <EpixP0ison> kinda confused
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[22:33] <ShorTie> the smoke will let ya know
[22:33] <EpixP0ison> lol
[22:33] <EpixP0ison> 30c
[22:33] <EpixP0ison> so no smoke
[22:33] <gbaman> try vcgencmd get_config arm_freq
[22:33] <gbaman> that should let you know what it has been passed
[22:33] <gbaman> so what it thinks is its max cpu speed
[22:33] <EpixP0ison> i dont have vcgencmd
[22:33] <EpixP0ison> and apt cant find it
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[22:33] <EpixP0ison> is it with anouther pakcage?
[22:34] <gbaman> no? built into every standard foundation image for the past year (ish)
[22:34] <EpixP0ison> yeh i dont have a standered :p
[22:34] <EpixP0ison> i havce debian squasy minimal
[22:34] <EpixP0ison> eh spelling has gone :/
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[22:35] <gbaman> i have no idea where it is got from
[22:35] <EpixP0ison> then i cant install it :p
[22:35] <gbaman> weird
[22:36] <gbaman> it also isnt in spindle, so it must be part of another package
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[22:37] <gbaman> did you try it with sudo?
[22:37] <EpixP0ison> i am root
[22:37] <EpixP0ison> :p
[22:37] <gbaman> :)
[22:37] <EpixP0ison> the install dosnt have users
[22:37] <EpixP0ison> and i havnt done anythign with the pi other than oc
[22:38] <EpixP0ison> maybe i just have a special pi :3
[22:38] <gbaman> it seems to be part of the raspberry pi main firmware
[22:39] <EpixP0ison> "It is Reading but the program that reads it had probably set a limit as that method of over clocking was written by raspbian" is my freind theory
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[22:39] <gbaman> perhaps
[22:39] <gbaman> as i said, i have never seen a pi running over 1.4
[22:39] <gbaman> and 1.4 was very unstable
[22:40] <gbaman> even with best cooling possible, it was just not designed for it
[22:40] <EpixP0ison> but then
[22:40] <EpixP0ison> this raises the question
[22:40] <EpixP0ison> why did it fail to boot at 2.2ghz and upwards
[22:40] <gbaman> they may be hard coded in to fail
[22:41] <gbaman> chip safety?
[22:41] <gbaman> when it is fed a crazy number, it just auto fails to boot
[22:41] <EpixP0ison> lol
[22:41] <EpixP0ison> maybe
[22:42] <gbaman> normally, it will fail to boot due to it crashing
[22:42] <gbaman> but 2200 might be so crazy, it just gives up :)
[22:42] * lupinedk is now known as Lupinedk
[22:42] <gbaman> or maybe it just does not like you?
[22:42] <EpixP0ison> or maybe its like
[22:42] <EpixP0ison> bro are you serious -_- clearly you dont know how to use a pi 2.2ghz is just crazy f*** you im not booting
[22:43] <gbaman> also a viable option
[22:43] <EpixP0ison> lel
[22:43] <EpixP0ison> i wonder
[22:43] <EpixP0ison> if i overvolt what its capabilitys are
[22:43] <EpixP0ison> *crosses fingers for 5ghz*
[22:43] <EpixP0ison> will never happen :(
[22:43] <EpixP0ison> but would be so epic
[22:44] <EpixP0ison> http://pastebin.com/r8Yg2rEW
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[22:45] <EpixP0ison> not to sure how good that is but.....
[22:45] <EpixP0ison> meh
[22:47] <ShorTie> why not just go for 700thz, tera hertz
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[22:47] <EpixP0ison> xD
[22:47] <EpixP0ison> even better
[22:47] <EpixP0ison> 100EHZ
[22:48] <EpixP0ison> 100ZHZ
[22:48] <EpixP0ison> much bette
[22:48] <EpixP0ison> wait zeta is bigger then exa right :/
[22:48] <EpixP0ison> who cares..... overvolt time
[22:48] <EpixP0ison> lets push this to the next level and see if it really is at 2.1ghz
[22:49] <EpixP0ison> 300% defualt performance :3 lets see fi we can make that 400
[22:49] <EpixP0ison> 2.8 is the goal
[22:51] <EpixP0ison> overvolt set to 2 going to test at 2.2 to start
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[22:53] <EpixP0ison> no workey :( i think the hard limit is 2.1ghz
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[22:53] <IT_Sean> That sounds about right.
[22:53] <EpixP0ison> lets try a overvolt 6
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[22:54] <EpixP0ison> same again
[22:55] <EpixP0ison> one question if i set the core freq to high will thep i not boot?
[22:55] <sney> you're blazing new trails as far as I can tell
[22:55] <sney> the only answer is "try it and see"
[22:56] <EpixP0ison> ok :p
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[22:56] <IT_Sean> actually, the answer is "try it and see, and home the pi doesn't go *poomf*"
[22:56] <IT_Sean> *hope
[22:56] <EpixP0ison> xD
[22:56] <sney> the latter was implied
[22:56] <IT_Sean> I see.
[22:56] <sney> in pretty much any use of "try it and see" ever
[22:56] <IT_Sean> OC'ing a raspi is very much a case of 'plug and pray'
[22:56] <sney> try it and see, and hope nothing catches on fire. :P
[22:57] <EpixP0ison> cant be a fire with this much cooling xD
[22:57] <EpixP0ison> did you see my heatsink and 4 fnas?
[22:58] <EpixP0ison> setting core freq to 400
[22:58] <EpixP0ison> and working
[22:58] <EpixP0ison> :/
[22:59] <EpixP0ison> oh thats normal actually
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[22:59] <EpixP0ison> this is also with the 2.1ghz
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[23:00] <EpixP0ison> 450 working
[23:00] <EpixP0ison> 500 working
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[23:01] <EpixP0ison> this is getting crazy now :/
[23:01] <djazz> anyone know the game Tremulous? i got it working on the pi :) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgDxPkkCUnc
[23:01] <EpixP0ison> nice :3
[23:01] <djazz> uses ioquake3 so it wasnt very hard
[23:01] <EpixP0ison> 550 working O.o
[23:02] <EpixP0ison> you know you said you get about 16fps
[23:02] <djazz> the newer tremulous uses a modified engine so it wont work
[23:02] <djazz> yeah
[23:02] <djazz> 16-25
[23:02] <EpixP0ison> i could probverly get 30+ with this oc by the lokos of it
[23:02] <djazz> regular quake runs better
[23:02] <EpixP0ison> 550 core freq and cpu freq at 2100
[23:03] <Martin`> Are there raspberry pi cases that are higher dan the normal cases? Because I've a shield on top :P http://cl.ly/image/302l2S3a1C3a
[23:03] <[diecast]> djazz now get it to run on an overlay of a webcam mounted to an rc car
[23:03] <[diecast]> real world fps
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[23:03] <djazz> [diecast]: i made this, something like that you mean? https://plus.google.com/113878221242502678865/posts/6XZJa8QX3xs
[23:04] <[diecast]> Martin` there are many, the one i uses is big enough for that
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[23:04] <Martin`> [diecast]: hmm ok, where can I find them? I only see the normal ones
[23:04] <Martin`> and alot :P
[23:05] <[diecast]> Martin` this is the one i have - http://www.budind.com/view/Plastic+Boxes/Microcomputer+Enclosures
[23:05] <EpixP0ison> core_freq=600
[23:05] <EpixP0ison> still no overvolt
[23:05] <EpixP0ison> O.o
[23:05] <[diecast]> thatimage is squished, it is much taller
[23:05] <[diecast]> google raspberry pi bud's case to see better picture
[23:06] <[diecast]> i bought mine at newark
[23:06] <EpixP0ison> 700
[23:07] <Martin`> [diecast]: ok tnx :)
[23:07] <EpixP0ison> how can this beeeee O.o
[23:08] <EpixP0ison> 2.1ghz cpu and 700mhz gpu
[23:10] <BHSPiMonkey> Got a RAID enclosure hooked up to my Pi this week
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[23:10] <BHSPiMonkey> NASberrying it up
[23:10] <BHSPiMonkey> So good
[23:10] <[diecast]> ahah, nice
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[23:11] <djazz> my pi-hosted music web radio is back online! :D http://djazz.mine.nu:1337/
[23:11] <BHSPiMonkey> Now if I can only figure out how to get Transmission's web UI to let me move downloads
[23:12] <Martin`> with only pi music?
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[23:12] <djazz> Martin`: only pony music
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[23:14] <[diecast]> music based on sensor readouts
[23:14] <Martin`> of you hear hot music, it is hot!
[23:14] <[diecast]> pattern matching with wind and altitude sensors
[23:14] <Martin`> oh
[23:14] <[diecast]> hehe
[23:15] <Martin`> I only have a temperature sensor on it
[23:16] <djazz> well i do have this http://djazz.mine.nu/lab/cpuinfo/
[23:16] <[diecast]> single wire?
[23:16] <Martin`> yes
[23:16] <djazz> rpi remote system monitor
[23:16] <Martin`> ds18b20 or something :P
[23:16] <[diecast]> ah, yes, i have that one too
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[23:16] <[diecast]> cool… or hot...
[23:16] <[diecast]> =P
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[23:16] <Martin`> looks nice :)
[23:18] <[diecast]> google is up to 10x it's opening stock price i just realized
[23:18] <[diecast]> crazy
[23:18] <Martin`> why?
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[23:18] <[diecast]> someone is crazy rich, but not me
[23:18] <Martin`> ow
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[23:19] <Martin`> not since opening today but since start you mean? :P
[23:19] <[diecast]> yes
[23:19] <[diecast]> $85 first trade ever
[23:19] <[diecast]> should have said ipo
[23:20] <Martin`> I know somebody who bought a lot in apple when it was was very low (some years ago)
[23:20] <Martin`> he now gets 3000 euro every 3 months
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[23:20] <[diecast]> oh, when stock dropped big in 2005 or whenever
[23:20] <Martin`> yes
[23:20] <[diecast]> ya i was too broke then. really wanted to buy a lot
[23:20] <[diecast]> oh well.. money makes money
[23:20] <Martin`> :)
[23:21] <Martin`> why is cloning an ssd so slow :(
[23:21] <Martin`> sd
[23:21] <[diecast]> depends on how it is done
[23:21] <[diecast]> sequential is usually how
[23:21] <Martin`> dd if=image.img of=/dev/disk1
[23:21] <[diecast]> ssd is not fast for seq read/write
[23:21] <Martin`> sd?
[23:21] <Martin`> :P
[23:21] <[diecast]> oh, sd
[23:22] <[diecast]> dunno it well enough
[23:22] <Martin`> 6530785280 bytes transferred in 4552.723131 secs (1434479 bytes/sec)
[23:22] <Martin`> 2gb to go
[23:24] <Martin`> hope it works :P
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[23:24] <Martin`> hi nomadic
[23:24] <Martin`> hmm no
[23:24] <Martin`> hi Natch
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[23:37] <wiiguy> hello i just deleted a file trough winscp, is there a way to reterive oit ?
[23:37] <wiiguy> it*
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[23:37] <steve_rox> no idea what winscp is
[23:37] <wiiguy> windows program to conect to ssh
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[23:38] <steve_rox> you deleted it off the windows system or the linux one?
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[23:38] <wiiguy> linux'
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[23:39] <steve_rox> well on windows youd could run a file recovery prog
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[23:39] <steve_rox> but im not sure on linux
[23:39] <steve_rox> as you use the disk more the chanses of recovery become less
[23:40] <wiiguy> i deleted it a sec :p
[23:40] <wiiguy> so dont think it is overwritten yet :p
[23:40] <steve_rox> not sure what they use for file recovery on linux
[23:41] <wiiguy> me neither
[23:41] <pksato> linux is quick to reuse free blocks.
[23:41] <vortexx> it's filesystem dependent
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[23:41] <[diecast]> ^^
[23:41] <wiiguy> so it is fair to say, it is gone ?
[23:41] <vortexx> you need to know what FS the partition you deleted on uses
[23:41] <steve_rox> i guess thats that then
[23:41] <vortexx> just about
[23:41] <[diecast]> you can allow more recovery blocks per volume if desired
[23:42] <vortexx> there are recovery tools out there though
[23:42] <[diecast]> and also you can set up recovery in volume, or fs level
[23:42] <steve_rox> so i suppose linux is more secure in deleteing files somewhat than windows :-D
[23:42] <pksato> wiiguy: try photorec.
[23:42] <wiiguy> will try :)
[23:43] <pksato> have some tools to undelete extX fs. but, is very hard to use.
[23:43] <[diecast]> the only safe way to delete files is via molten lava or acid of a severly destructive kind
[23:43] <[diecast]> =)
[23:43] <steve_rox> does it still format after ? :-P
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[23:43] <steve_rox> "warning fsck cant clear lava"
[23:44] <[diecast]> haha
[23:44] <steve_rox> :-)
[23:44] <wiiguy> to clear lava you will need fsck V2
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[23:45] <steve_rox> is that the payed version?
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[23:45] <wiiguy> who knows
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[23:45] <wiiguy> ask nsa
[23:45] <steve_rox> nah they are still trying to figure out how to run fsck on their latest mars probe thing
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