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IRC Log for 2013-09-28

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[0:51] <Jeebiss> Anyone know of java gpio libraries?
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[0:56] <ShorTie> have you looked at http://pi4j.com/ ??
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[0:57] <Jeebiss> I just stumbled on that actually
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[1:19] <steve_rox> anything interesting going on?
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[1:22] <Jeebiss> not here, just writing up a speech to text python app
[1:22] <Jeebiss> for voice control stuff
[1:24] <Jeebiss> turns out, im really bad at python
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[1:27] <steve_rox> i dont really know python myself but i know how to manipulate it a bit
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[1:29] <steve_rox> managed to make a few scripts
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[1:30] <steve_rox> one crashed the rpi quite literly when i told it to drive a rc car
[1:30] * Dr_Willis has visions of a Pi Driving around a desk and crashing...
[1:31] <Dr_Willis> actually one of those RC-Car Cover/frames/ would make a neat Pi Case. or at least a neat dust cover.
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[1:39] <Stuarts> hello
[1:39] <Stuarts> noob here
[1:40] <Stuarts> can anyone point me to a tutorial on how to output somthing based on an input voltage using the gpio pins?
[1:40] <Stuarts> for example, if there is a >50ma input, the raspberry outputs somthing on another pin?
[1:40] <shiftplusone> Stuarts, the gpio pins are digital only.
[1:41] <Stuarts> ohh eff
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[1:41] <shiftplusone> and 50mA input? that would destroy the pin.
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[1:41] <shiftplusone> and it's a current, not a voltage O_o
[1:41] <shiftplusone> What do you actually want to do?
[1:41] <Stuarts> carp they are all digital?
[1:42] <Stuarts> yeah, told you i was a noob
[1:42] <shiftplusone> yes, all carp are digital.
[1:42] <Stuarts> bleh crap*
[1:42] <shiftplusone> But, you can use an ADC chip for analog inputs.
[1:42] <shiftplusone> http://learn.adafruit.com/reading-a-analog-in-and-controlling-audio-volume-with-the-raspberry-pi/overview
[1:44] <Stuarts> ohh thats perfect
[1:44] <Stuarts> thanks
[1:44] <shiftplusone> good luck
[1:45] <Stuarts> i'm sure i'll be back =\
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[1:45] <shiftplusone> I would suggest you do a bit of background reading though. learn about ohm's law.
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[1:52] <Dr_Willis> v=ir :) about all i rember from EE101 class years (egads, decades) ago.
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[1:52] <shiftplusone> And about all you need to know =D
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[1:56] <Dr_Willis> can the pi's overscan setting be toggled on the fly? been trying to get rasbian setup right on my Big TV. and it seems i got a full screen left/right. but still about a 20 pixle overscan black bar on top/buttom I thought i had it working with some other pi disrto a fe wmonths back.
[1:57] <chod> not seen it done on the fly
[1:57] <chod> would be useful
[1:57] <Dr_Willis> I thought i had tried out some disrto that asked 'do you see black bars at edges' when it first booted up. ;) but that might have just done the setting then rebooted
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[1:59] <Dr_Willis> could also be the TV is trying to be smart and changeing things that im not noticeing. got it set to 16:9 image instead of any zoom settings. I normally use the pi on a PC monitor. but i want to get it going on a big tv in the basement. ;)
[2:00] <Dr_Willis> i had to turn off a lot of the fancy movie/dynamic color changes/dynamic brightness settings. that were making the desktop act/look weird
[2:00] <PhotoJim> most TVs need to be set to 1:1 pixel mapping mode to fill the screen
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[2:10] <plugwash> If you can do it then the best option is to use the disable overscan option on the Pi and then set the TV up for 1:1 pixel mapping
[2:11] <plugwash> not all TVs can do that though :(
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[5:23] <DuncanNZ> Hi, when I run raspivid -o - it goes for 5 seconds, but when I add a -t parameter: raspivid -t 10 -o - it just flickers and aborts...
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[5:27] <ItsMeLenny> does the raspi camera contain full manual control? and can the raw data of the sensor be pulled?
[5:30] <DuncanNZ> http://dpaste.com/1398620/
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[5:51] <jeremy89632> Hello.
[5:52] <Scar3cr0w> hola
[5:52] <jeremy89632> I am having problems with my raspberry pi raspbmc boblight setup.
[5:52] <jeremy89632> cant get my LED lights to blink.
[5:52] <jeremy89632> any idea why?
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[5:52] <Scar3cr0w> no idea what the boblight is personally
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[5:52] <jeremy89632> alright.
[5:52] <Scar3cr0w> but I'm loving raspyfi
[5:53] <Scar3cr0w> Oooh
[5:53] <Scar3cr0w> like ambilight?
[5:53] <jeremy89632> yeah ambilight setup
[5:53] <Scar3cr0w> I have not seen that project yet
[5:53] <Scar3cr0w> very cool
[5:53] <jeremy89632> yeah :)
[5:53] <Scar3cr0w> sorry I can't help
[5:54] <Scar3cr0w> but if your patient someone else in here might be able to step up
[5:54] <Scar3cr0w> but it can take several minutes
[5:54] <Scar3cr0w> you checked your logs?
[5:54] <jeremy89632> yeah everything seems good.
[5:55] <jeremy89632> no idea why.
[5:55] <jeremy89632> so thats why i reached out to the community.
[5:57] <Scar3cr0w> word
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[6:28] <werdna> hi! Just wondering if there's a way to change my hard-float (armhf?) raspberry pi to soft float (armel?)
[6:29] <werdna> On Raspbian Wheezy, should probably mention that
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[6:33] <shiftplusone> werdna, no, you'll need a different distro.
[6:34] <werdna> I need to totally reflash? No other way?
[6:35] <shiftplusone> no other way that I would recommend.
[6:36] <shiftplusone> An old soft float image can be found here ftp://ftp.mirrorservice.org/sites/downloads.raspberrypi.org/images/debian/7/2013-05-29-wheezy-armel/ (they don't make them anymore)
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[6:38] <werdna> huh, and soft-float support is also being dropped?
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[6:40] <shiftplusone> by the pi foundation anyway, it seems.
[6:40] <shiftplusone> Why do you need it? Mono?
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[6:40] <werdna> Well, I originally installed armel for Spotify, which then about two weeks later released armhf support
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[6:41] <werdna> Now I'm trying to install xbmc, but all the binary packages are armhf and I don't really feel like compiling for 12 hours
[6:41] <werdna> and, I mean, I don't really want to get stuck on an unsupported version of Raspbian
[6:41] <werdna> and I figured that it'd be worth the performance boost if I'm planning on playing HD video.
[6:41] <shiftplusone> raspbian is not and never has been soft float.
[6:42] <shiftplusone> The whole point of raspbian is to be debian, but optimized for the pi (hence hard float).
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[6:42] <JakeSays> yeah but it sure would be nice if they kept armel around
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[6:43] * werdna shrugs. I wanted Spotify to work at the time.
[6:44] <jeremy89632> anyone have any idea how to get boblight/ambilight working on raspbmc?
[6:44] <jeremy89632> im having problems.
[6:45] <shiftplusone> I don't think many people know what boblight even is. You could also try #raspbmc, but I suggest you make it a more generic question.... what's the actual problem?
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[6:46] <jeremy89632> right.
[6:47] <jeremy89632> I got all of the pins and everything connected, and got the default config files in place.
[6:47] <jeremy89632> but the big issue is, the first few lights is lighted white and thats how far it goes.
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[6:47] <jeremy89632> raspbmc is slightly quiet today.
[6:48] <shiftplusone> sorry, sounds like a very boblight/ambilight specific question... hard to say anything about it without having to dive into the source code, I guess.
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[6:49] <JakeSays> lol boblight?
[6:49] <ParkerR> JakeSays, ambient lighting
[6:51] <werdna> hmm, is there an easy way to bring my config + data across to a different image? I thought about saving /etc and /home and a list of installed packages.
[6:53] <JakeSays> ParkerR: so a lamp?
[6:53] <ParkerR> JakeSays, no. Just google boblight
[6:54] <jeremy89632> point. thanks
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[7:06] <werdna> shiftplusone: I was thinking about finding something similar to this <https://wiki.debian.org/Migrate32To64Bit> to use, but it looks like it requires a system that can run binaries from both arches at the same time, which I don't believe you can on Raspbian
[7:06] <JakeSays> anyone tried oracle's new armhf java release?
[7:07] <shiftplusone> werdna, I am sure it's possible, I just don't see the point given than a new install will take a few minutes and you can just copy your settings across.
[7:08] <werdna> shiftplusone: depends how easy it is to copy everything across.
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[7:11] <werdna> hmmm, that guide looks kinda terrifying :p
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[8:09] <Dr_Willis> hmm.
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[8:31] <Pip> What do you guys do with the pi?
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[9:05] <Dr_Willis> its quiet. ;)
[9:06] <Dr_Willis> Pip: znc server, xbmc client/server. plex client,
[9:06] <ParkerR> youtube for my TV
[9:07] <Dr_Willis> hopefullly there will be a Chromecast-client for the pi someday
[9:07] <Dr_Willis> save me having to buy a chromecast dongle
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[9:49] <Pip> Anyone who has tested building a mini supercomputer with multiple pis?
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[9:53] <bigx> hello, do you know if there is a shield that leverage the use of the gpios (P1 AND P5 headers) with screw connections?
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[11:25] <double-you> I forgot to start a process over "screen", is there a way to recover it to a screen on raspbian?
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[11:30] <Jusii> try reptyr
[11:30] <Jusii> not sure if it's packaged in raspbian
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[11:39] <double-you> thank you, Jusii
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[11:44] <ShorTie> you can not just re-attach to screen and start it ??
[11:45] <gordonDrogon> morning weekend Pi Peeps!
[11:46] <ShorTie> mornin sir gordonDrogon
[11:47] <gordonDrogon> hope it's better weather where you are - dull, rainy here. Still got to pop out to the shops though - wet weather gear time!
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[11:49] <ShorTie> bummer, i see no rain in our 7 day forecast
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[11:52] <double-you> ShorTie: I have no idea how it works
[11:54] <ShorTie> no idea on screen ??
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[11:55] <double-you> I just try to start everything with screen ...
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[11:58] <ShorTie> in 1 screen sesion or multiple sesions ??
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[12:22] <cnf> hi
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[13:08] <cnf> so is it normal that my pi reboots when i plug in new usb devices?
[13:09] <ShorTie> if you do not have enough current backup, ya
[13:10] <cnf> it's in a 2.1A adaptor
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[13:10] <cnf> ShorTie: and it works fine after that
[13:10] <cnf> so once it has rebooted, i can unplug it, and replug it
[13:10] <Jusii> it really isn't about the power, too small capacitors on pi
[13:10] <cnf> it works fine
[13:10] <Jusii> easy fix is a usb hub
[13:11] <cnf> meh, too big
[13:11] <ShorTie> it could be like an in-rush of current
[13:11] <Jusii> then there's a hack where you put bigger capacitor to usb
[13:11] <Jusii> ShorTie: correct
[13:11] <ShorTie> that draws the voltage below min
[13:11] <cnf> i'm trying to make a portable tooler, i already think the case i can find are too large
[13:12] <ShorTie> 2.1A adapter, is that peak or rms rating ??
[13:13] <cnf> iPad charger, so i'm gonna guess peak
[13:13] <cnf> uhm
[13:13] <cnf> rms
[13:13] <cnf> as it needs 2.1A to properly charge
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[13:14] <Jusii> here's one fix http://thestuffsido.blogspot.fi/2013/05/fixing-raspberry-pi-hotplugging.html
[13:14] <ShorTie> what does the device you plug in draw ??
[13:14] <cnf> i don't know, but 2 of them are serial adaptors
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[13:15] <cnf> they can't draw that much, now can they
[13:15] <ShorTie> it is hard to say without a meter
[13:16] <ShorTie> 2 of them, how many are you pluging in ??
[13:17] <cnf> one at a time
[13:17] <cnf> it has a wifi dongle plugged in
[13:17] <cnf> and when i plug in either serial adaptor, it reboots
[13:17] <cnf> but what i find strange is that after that, i can unplug the serial adaptor
[13:17] <ShorTie> any thing more then like a keyboard and mouse is used it is best to have a powered hub
[13:17] <cnf> wait 10 minutes
[13:17] <cnf> and plug it back in, and it's fine
[13:18] <cnf> hmm, maybe the pi isn't the right device for me
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[13:18] <ShorTie> wifi is almost always best to have on a power hub
[13:19] <cnf> yeah, not really an option for me
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[13:20] <ShorTie> 2 serial adapters + wifi, almost sounds like you are using some kind of hub any ways
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[13:21] <cnf> no, 1 serial adaptor at any one time
[13:21] <ShorTie> just cause the power adapter says 2.1A, does not mean the rPi will pass that much thru it
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[13:22] <cnf> of course
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[13:23] <ShorTie> of course what ??
[13:23] <cnf> what you said just before
[13:24] <ShorTie> are you powering rPi by the micro usb port or the gpio header ??
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[13:25] <cnf> usb
[13:25] <ShorTie> you could try the gpio route and thus bypass the power protection of the usb port
[13:26] <cnf> which means my case doesn't work anymore, and i need to carry more adaptors, again
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[13:28] <ShorTie> maybe not, you might be able to add a by-pass wire from the micro-usb to the gpio header for power
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[13:31] <ShorTie> the 10 minute wait till it works again maybe a clue of blowing the polly fuse and it needs time to reset
[13:32] <cnf> oh, no
[13:32] <cnf> it works if i unplug it, and plug it again immediately
[13:32] <cnf> once it has booted with it connected
[13:32] <cnf> i can unplug and replug it at will
[13:32] <cnf> with wait, without wait, doesn't matter
[13:32] <cnf> plug in a different device, reboot again
[13:32] <ShorTie> that is hard on the file system
[13:33] <cnf> what is?
[13:33] <ShorTie> just unpluging it
[13:33] <cnf> just unplugging a serial adaptor is hard on the filesystem?
[13:34] <ShorTie> oh, me bad, thought you ment the rPi itself
[13:34] <cnf> oh, no
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[13:58] <Kane> morning
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[13:58] <cnf> ola
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[14:29] <PfhorSlayer> Since the IO registers are mapped at 0x200000000, which is 512MB into the address space, does that mean that the device can never have more than 512MB of RAM?
[14:29] <chris_99> no
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[14:30] <PfhorSlayer> I guess the physical addresses can be non-continuous then?
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[14:32] <SpeedEvil> In principle, physical memory can either not be mapped in the access register range - so there may be a 1MB hole in RAM - or it can be mapped at a different place.
[14:32] <SpeedEvil> So RAM might be from 0-512M, and 1024-1536M
[14:32] <PfhorSlayer> Yeah, that makes sense
[14:32] <SpeedEvil> - however this depends on what the Pi actually supports
[14:33] <SpeedEvil> There is a third option - where the address is altered programmatically in hardware - but that's probably not relevant
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[14:34] <mgottschlag1> in this case, the pi's chip is indeed limited to 512MB RAM
[14:35] <pksato> http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=72&t=40690
[14:35] <PfhorSlayer> I'm starting work on figuring out how I want to deal with memory management in the OS I'm writing for the Pi, just trying to get an idea of how everything is set up
[14:35] <PfhorSlayer> Thanks :)
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[14:38] <PfhorSlayer> I take it that the VC/ARM MMU is not something I have any control over?
[14:38] <PfhorSlayer> (I just have control over the ARM's MMU, not the BCM2835 MMU, that is)
[14:39] <mgottschlag1> yes
[14:39] <cnf> hmm, i guess i could use the GPIO as a serial port
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[14:40] <PfhorSlayer> And why is it that the IO regs are mapped to the L2 cache coherent section of the VC bus?
[14:40] <PfhorSlayer> instead of the direct uncached section?
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[14:44] <Chetic> I'm trying to remove a couple of resistors on a sparkfun breakout board. does anybody know how to find where a component is on the physical board based on the schematic?
[14:44] <ant_thomas> Is there a decent guide for booting the RPi from a LAN server of some sort? PXE, NFS, TFTP etc? I realise it will still need an SD card and that's fine, just don't have enough reasonable size cards right now for what I want.
[14:44] <Chetic> https://www.sparkfun.com/products/10955 <-I want to remove the 2 pull-up resistors but don't know which components they are on the actual circuit board
[14:45] <PfhorSlayer> http://dlnmh9ip6v2uc.cloudfront.net/datasheets/Sensors/Accelerometers/MMA8452Q-Breakout-v11-fixed.pdf
[14:45] <PfhorSlayer> They appear to be labeled
[14:46] <PfhorSlayer> on both the schematic there and on the pictures of the board
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[14:46] <Chetic> not on the board, no
[14:47] <Chetic> 3 of them just say 01C
[14:47] <mgottschlag1> Chetic: do you have a multimeter?
[14:48] <Chetic> yes...
[14:48] <pksato> ant_thomas: RPi can not boot over network. No PXE, no bootp. no TFTP.
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[14:49] <pksato> but, you can mount rootFS via nfs.
[14:49] <PfhorSlayer> Though you could write a little bootloader that waits for a signal over the network or something
[14:50] <ant_thomas> pksato: That's good enough, just want to keep the rootFS elsewhere. Think I've found the relevant thread on the forum
[14:50] <pksato> a small kernel. :)
[14:50] <PfhorSlayer> yep, a small kernel :D
[14:50] <pksato> that load other kernel. :)
[14:52] <pksato> Chetic: why need to remove resistors?
[14:52] <mgottschlag1> Chetic: just use the multimeter connectivity test to find the resistor between sda/scl and 3.3v
[14:53] <pksato> I2C pullup resistor are near 3v3 pin.
[14:54] <Chetic> pksato: because I have 2 other breakout boards like this and the pi already provides pull-up resistance towards 3v3 afaik
[14:54] <pksato> 3?
[14:55] <Chetic> 3 i2c breakout boards
[14:55] <ShorTie> what is the values of the pull-up resistors ??
[14:55] <Chetic> how does that matter?
[14:55] <ShorTie> as long as they are big enough the parallel resistance they make may not matter
[14:56] <pksato> this boad have only 2 address, is not possible to connect 3.
[14:56] <pksato> on same i2c bus.
[14:57] <pksato> remove resistores with 103 label https://dlnmh9ip6v2uc.cloudfront.net//images/products/1/0/9/5/5/10955-04.jpg
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[14:59] <ShorTie> a 103 resistor is like 10k, 3 of those in parallel is gonna be around 3.3k, which is still above the minimun resistance for pull-ups i believe
[15:01] <Chetic> pksato: what do you mean it only has 2 addresses?
[15:01] <Chetic> that doesn't fit with how I understand i2c works
[15:05] <pksato> two addr, 0x1C and 0x1D.
[15:05] <mgottschlag1> Chetic: every i2c ic has a number of hardcoded i2c addresses between you can choose
[15:06] <Chetic> yes and all 3 of these have different addresses
[15:06] <Chetic> what's the default pi address?
[15:06] <mgottschlag1> (except microcontrollers which usually can choose from the complete address space)
[15:07] <pksato> is a same module that you linked?
[15:07] <mgottschlag1> the pi is the i2c master and probably doesn't have any address?
[15:07] <Chetic> ah okay
[15:07] <Chetic> then there are no address collisions
[15:07] <pksato> RPi is a master, dont have address.
[15:08] <pksato> MMA8452Q have only two selectable address.
[15:08] <mgottschlag1> pksato: aren't those two address bits, so 4 addresses?
[15:08] <Chetic> how does that matter?
[15:09] <PfhorSlayer> why does the BCM2835 memory map image show the IO Peripherals addresses in the ARM physical address space as INSIDE the area defined as the size of physical memory?
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[15:09] <PfhorSlayer> this document has a shitton of mistakes and errors :|
[15:09] <pksato> one address select pin.
[15:09] <mgottschlag1> ah, no, it is only one address bit, indeed
[15:10] <mgottschlag1> Chetic: it matters if you have several modules with the same ic, but you have different modules, right?
[15:11] <Chetic> yes
[15:11] <pksato> different chip?
[15:11] <Chetic> yes
[15:11] <Chetic> sorry I wasn't clear on that
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[15:11] <Chetic> resistors are gone now though!
[15:11] <Chetic> let's see how it goes
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[15:13] <ShorTie> don't let the smoke out
[15:13] <pksato> only two MMA8452Q can be connected to same i2c bus.
[15:13] <pksato> one on address 0x1C and other on 0x1D
[15:15] <Chetic> pksato: I have one accelerometer, one altimeter and a temperature sensor
[15:15] <Chetic> with very different addresses
[15:15] <Chetic> just to be clear
[15:17] <pksato> ah. ok.
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[15:21] <PfhorSlayer> What does "L2 Cache Coherent (Non-allocating)" mean in reference to the area between 0x40000000-0x7FFFFFFF on the VC bus? Does that mean that reads from that area will use L2 cache, but writes will not update the L2 cache?
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[15:24] <mgottschlag1> writes will not update the L2 cache, unless the cache line is already valid (because of a previous read
[15:24] <mgottschlag1> )
[15:25] <mgottschlag1> so write will not allocate new cache lines
[15:28] <PfhorSlayer> gotcha, thanks!
[15:28] <PfhorSlayer> so if I do a read that pulls in a cache line, then I write to that line, the line will get written back to L2?
[15:29] <mgottschlag1> yes
[15:29] <PfhorSlayer> but if I write to a line that isn't already in the cache, it won't get pulled in
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[15:30] <PfhorSlayer> when is that particularily useful?
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[15:31] <mgottschlag1> I don't know, I only know that it can have performance benefits in some situations
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[15:33] <PfhorSlayer> Also, since I can't control the BCM2835's MMU, does that mean that I can't set up the ARM's MMU to use the L1/L2 caches or...?
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[15:40] <gordonDrogon> afternoon...
[15:40] <PfhorSlayer> Morning.
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[15:40] <gordonDrogon> good time of day to you ;-)
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[15:41] <PfhorSlayer> hah!
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[16:00] <PfhorSlayer> So it appears that you can NOT use the L2 cache from the ARM, is that correct?
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[16:02] <mgottschlag1> I don't think so, it can be enabled in config.txt
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[16:03] <PfhorSlayer> But that's read by the GPU blob, no?
[16:03] <mgottschlag1> yes
[16:03] <PfhorSlayer> Isn't that controlling access to the L2 by the GPU?
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[16:03] <mgottschlag1> but the GPU blob then enables L2 cache for the ARM core
[16:04] <mgottschlag1> depends on how you define "use the L2 cache"
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[16:04] <mgottschlag1> the ARM core can "use" L2 cache, but not configure it
[16:05] <PfhorSlayer> According to the memory diagram in the BCM2835 peripherals PDF, the ARM physical addresses are mapped to the direct uncached area on the VC bus
[16:05] <PfhorSlayer> so I guess that config.txt setting changes where the physical address is mapped in the VC bus?
[16:05] <mgottschlag1> I don't know how it works
[16:05] <mgottschlag1> but the ARM core should still be able to access uncached addresses
[16:06] <PfhorSlayer> do you know where I could find more information about this?
[16:06] <PfhorSlayer> I'm scouring the forums and everything, but if you've got some direct info that'd be much nicer ;)
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[16:08] <mgottschlag1> no, I don't have any
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[16:09] <PfhorSlayer> thanks anyway!
[16:11] <PfhorSlayer> yeah, according to the config.txt docs: "disable_l2cache disable ARM access to GPU's L2 cache. Needs corresponding L2 disabled kernel. Default 0"
[16:11] <PfhorSlayer> seems the ARM can definitely use the GPU's L2!
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[17:04] <scottstamp> Does anyone know any music player / visualization software that works on the Pi? VLC works, but visualizations cause it to hang.
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[17:38] <Jusii> xbmc is only one that comes into my mind
[17:38] <Jusii> might be a bit overkill just for that :)
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[17:48] <EpixP0ison> is it possable to install vcgencmd on a non raspberry standered os :/ i have debian wheezy i wanna install it on. is there a source anywhere?
[17:49] <SirLagz> EpixP0ison: why would you want to do that ?
[17:49] <EpixP0ison> maybe its in the rpi repos actually never checked :/
[17:49] <EpixP0ison> because i use vcgencmd for temp clock checking ect ect ect
[17:49] <EpixP0ison> and i plan to use that with some php and with work on my LCD display when it arrives
[17:49] <EpixP0ison> its just more helpfull then proc normally
[17:49] <SirLagz> Yeah i think it's in the Pi Repos for Raspbian
[17:50] <SirLagz> though why not use Raspbian if you want debian ?
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[17:52] <SirLagz> wooo my PiParted script successfully resized an image down from 2gigs to 700 megs
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[17:53] <Jusii> EpixP0ison: https://github.com/raspberrypi/firmware/tree/master/opt/vc/bin
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[17:54] <EpixP0ison> SirLagz i dont want all the extra crap :p the debain only has like 14 processes normally and all the extra space is needed so meh :p
[17:54] <EpixP0ison> thanks Jusii
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[17:54] <SirLagz> EpixP0ison: there's quite a few minimal raspbian images out htere
[17:54] <Jusii> it's not the source, but I think it should work
[17:55] <SirLagz> EpixP0ison: and also one minimal Raspbian installer
[17:55] <Jusii> I just stripped down default raspbian install
[17:56] <EpixP0ison> i will install the repos and try that way if not i shall use the source and again if not i shall check out the other minimal ones
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[18:19] <Jeebiss> I need to stop mindlessly folling instructions on the internet lol
[18:19] <Jeebiss> i just followed all this
[18:19] <Jeebiss> http://www.instructables.com/id/Raspberry-Pi-Web-Server/?ALLSTEPS
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[18:19] <Jeebiss> and now wiringPi doesnt work anymore
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[18:41] <EpixP0ison> think if i simply copied /opt it may work :/
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[20:10] <gordonDrogon> Jeebiss, those are quite old instructions.
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[20:10] <gordonDrogon> really, sudo apt-get install apache is about all you need if you have a working raspbian.
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[21:11] <davor> ShadowJK, why?
[21:11] <ShadowJK> To see if it would let me hotplug usb devices :)
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[21:20] <SpeedEvil> eight farads should be plenty
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[21:26] <davor> ShadowJK, ahh, Jusii posted this link earlier today, might help (if you haven't seen it) http://thestuffsido.blogspot.fi/2013/05/fixing-raspberry-pi-hotplugging.html
[21:26] <davor> lmao SpeedEvil, I wonder what that looks like
[21:26] <davor> *lol
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[21:29] <Jusii> wonder if that capacitor could be added to USB pins, ie. you could make a usb-passthrough-dongle with capacitor
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[21:32] <Jusii> anyone knows about the hw that much?
[21:34] <davor> no idea about it working/not working/affecting the Pi, but yeah sure you could do that pretty easily
[21:34] <davor> just grab a USB f->m cable and wire a capacitor, one end to the +5v and the other to the gnd line
[21:35] <shiftplusone> Jusii, not a bad idea. You'd just have to make sure you choose the capacitor well and that it's plugged in before powering up the pi.
[21:36] <davor> and mind the cap's orientation if it's an electrolytic cap, which it is in all likelihood if it's above, what, 1 uF?
[21:36] <Jusii> have to try it, it's been a little problem. Well, tackled it with a hub
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[21:36] <Jusii> mind the gap, you're british!
[21:36] <davor> someone correct me if I'm talking gibberish
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[21:36] <davor> haha, me? guess again :p
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[21:37] <davor> uhm, if it's above .1 uF is more like it
[21:37] <Jusii> just a joke about british underground announcements :)
[21:37] <Jusii> cap/gap
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[21:38] <davor> ah hahaha
[21:39] <davor> hm, I wonder why that dude didn't solder off the Pi's cap first and just soldered the larger one in parallel
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[21:39] <davor> easier to revert the Pi to default?
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[21:41] <ShadowJK> the smaller capacitor probably has lower ESR
[21:41] <ShadowJK> and lower arasitic inductance
[21:41] <Jusii> afaik, RPis capacitor in there is under the usb specs
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[21:42] <Jusii> by default
[21:43] <ShadowJK> but the other stuff isn't
[21:44] <Jusii> [Manis] did his homework and discovered USB 2.0-spec ports should use a 120 μF, low-ESR capacitor to prevent this. The Raspi comes stock with a 47 μF cap used for this purpose.
[21:45] <davor> ah, thanks ShadowJK
[21:45] <davor> Jusii, yeah, I meant why didn't he take off the stock cap before soldering on the larger one
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[21:47] <ShorTie> why, parallel caps add capacitance, plus it gives the solder better holding
[21:47] <Jusii> yeah, I'm trying to redefine my electronics memories, if it would really be sufficient to put that capacitor straigt to usb pins
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[21:48] <Jusii> http://theiopage.blogspot.fi/2012/06/increasing-raspberry-pis-usb-host.html
[21:48] <ShorTie> i would think just about any where would really work
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[21:49] <Jusii> but I'd say it would according to those schematics
[21:49] <ShadowJK> maybe I'll bridge the polyfuse with a wire instead
[21:50] <Jusii> are those in place on latest revision?
[21:50] <ShorTie> you just get to suppliment the power for a split sec
[21:50] <ShadowJK> iirc the main power polyfuse is still
[21:50] <Jusii> half of that page is of old revision
[21:50] <Jusii> ok
[21:50] <ShadowJK> but per-usbport polyfuses are gone
[21:51] <Jusii> right
[21:51] <ShadowJK> So powerdrain on usb port will brownout all of rpi instead of just having not-working or brownout usb device
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