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IRC Log for 2013-09-29

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[0:14] <new2013> new r.pi user here. i have a question.
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[0:15] <SpeedEvil> how do I change the console text resolution?
[0:15] <SpeedEvil> at runtime
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[0:17] <new2013> Have installed mcp7941x real-time clock. Next installation step says: "echo mcp7941x 0x6f > /sys/class/i2c-dev/i2c-1/device/new_device". I sudo this but get "Permission Denied". Fix?
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[0:20] <AndrevS> new2013, are you sure that's the correct path. On my pi it is i2c-adapter not i2c-dev
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[0:21] <AndrevS> also keep in mind the i2c-0 and i2c-1 have been swapped between the first and second revision of the pi.
[0:22] <new2013> Hi AndrevS. Swapped? Is the r.pi version B i2c-1?
[0:23] <AndrevS> I would have to check. moment please
[0:23] <new2013> The path I've given is what's documented and it does exist. I just did sudo chmod 777 and wrote to it. Not sure if that's best practice.
[0:24] <new2013> My r.pi has ethernet. I read that this makes it rev B...
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[0:28] <AndrevS> Yeah, ethernet is model B, but there is revision 1 and 2 (256 or 512 MB RAM)
[0:29] <AndrevS> http://elinux.org/Rpi_Low-level_peripherals seems Revision 1 uses i2c-0 and Revision 2 i2c-1
[0:30] <AndrevS> Specific device names may depend on distro/kernel version. I am on ArchLinuxARM, for which I have /sys/class/i2c-adapter/i2c-0 in my file system
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[0:32] <AndrevS> But, when you did a chmod 777, did that make it work? if not, check your dmesg output
[0:33] <new2013> AndrevS, I have 512 MB RAM. Your using Arch explains it. I have Raspbian here. "sudo chmod 777" appears to have been the right step.
[0:33] <new2013> Your using Arch explains the difference in the path, I meant.
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[0:35] <new2013> I bought the RTC through EBay from a chap in Ontario. Documentation is poor. I will send him the changes. Thanks for your kind help, AndrevS.
[0:35] <AndrevS> Yeah, there are minor differences between distros. Afaik Raspian uses a kernel from the rpi site, while arch compiles their own kernel (at least, last time i checked)
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[0:35] <AndrevS> I got some RTC from dx.com. I thought I had written about it on my blog... but appearently I haven't written about it yet. I should do so.
[0:36] <AndrevS> But first I am resolving some other issues, I assume are power adapter related.
[0:36] <new2013> Do you need me to send you my steps or do you know everything by heart? I liked Arch for learning, but the rolling distro model wasn't good for my use.
[0:36] <AndrevS> But.... my laptop's SD slot is malfunctioning so I cannot write a new card
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[0:37] <AndrevS> I had it working before. I might still have the notes. but I need to set it up again.
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[0:37] <AndrevS> Besides, I think I have a different one (PCF8563 based)
[0:38] <AndrevS> Well.... one thing I still have to look at... I can have it adding the RTC during boot by adding it as a service to systemd
[0:39] <new2013> The vendor for my chip is www.100randomtasks.com.
[0:39] <AndrevS> However, earlier in the boot stage, it tries to read the rtc, before it exist
[0:39] <AndrevS> I got two different ones, to play around with... The past months, I just haven't been doing much with my rpi and other boards.... I should get playing around with them again...
[0:40] <AndrevS> but now my laptop appears to be trying to stop me.
[0:40] <new2013> Here's the doc that I found that helped a little: http://www.circuitsurgery.com/docs/rtcc.pdf. No one mentions needing to chmod the dir, though.
[0:42] <new2013> What make is the lappy?
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[0:43] <AndrevS> HP EliteBook 8530w
[0:44] <AndrevS> It seems, it doesn't write *anything* to the SD card. But I will get a new one next month.
[0:45] <AndrevS> Then I will open up this one. (It has some overheating issues as well, so I suppose it's dusty inside)
[0:46] <new2013> It has an HD screen? Glossy or matte? I hate glossy screens. Wait a few more months for the Haswell i7s to make it into notebooks.
[0:46] <new2013> Oh, one more question about the r.pi... there's a pseudo-hwclock that I saw during boot. Is this disabled automagically if the chip is detected?
[0:46] <AndrevS> So do I. It's matte.
[0:48] <AndrevS> Well... I haven't seen this pseudo rtc. last time I was playing with the rtc, few months back, it went like "setting clock : error /dev/rtc0 not found"
[0:49] <AndrevS> so, it there would be a fake rtc, it would be /dev/rtc0 and the real one would go /dev/rtc1. But I think that would be strange.
[0:56] <new2013> I have seen it at every boot. Perhaps a Raspbian thing.
[1:00] <new2013> I do see a /dev/rtc0.
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[1:01] <AndrevS> before doing the echo > new_device ?
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[3:48] <Aivaras> Hey guys. I have my raspberry connected to BT module over serial and I have an issue - my inputs seams to be ignored by pi. Any ideas? :/ http://imgur.com/3y5JQ6y
[3:48] <EchoFox> that over my head.
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[3:57] <new2013_> Have r.pi rev B running raspbian. RTC installed and working but OS does not use it at boot. Have edited raspi-blacklist.conf, /etc/modules, /etc//rc.lcaol
[3:57] <new2013_> er that's /etc/rc.local...
[3:57] <new2013_> Have removed fake-hwclock pkg
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[4:04] <RahulAN> Hii alll
[4:05] <RahulAN> can we use normal SD card for burn linux image
[4:05] <RahulAN> ??
[4:05] <Aivaras> what is not normal SD card?
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[4:29] <RahulAN> Aivaras: i meant to say that the card which we normally use in mobile phones can be used or not..??
[4:29] <Aivaras> RahulAN: microSD?
[4:29] <RahulAN> Aivaras: yes
[4:29] <Aivaras> well, yeah. But you need adaptor because of size difference.
[4:30] <RahulAN> yeahh i hav adapter..
[4:30] <RahulAN> Will it cause any harm to the boaord.. if i use it by formating
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[4:37] <MoleMan> Whats the command in Raspbian to check the size of a drive (not a partition/filesystem)
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[4:40] <dowlf> MoleMan: fdisk -l | grep Disk
[4:40] <MoleMan> yeah, found and used fdisk thanks :)
[4:41] <MoleMan> all the results I was finding were saying du and df, which I already knew and wasnt what I wanted, to I realised I should search for listing partitions instead :p
[4:41] <MoleMan> unfortunately, my SD card is only 8GB, not 16GB as I thought :p
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[4:44] <dowlf> at least cards are cheaper these days
[4:45] <dowlf> I got some 16gb cards off amazon really cheap, like $7 each with shipping, fast cards too
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[5:17] <zsentinel> has anyone controller a stepper motor with a rpi?
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[5:35] <PfhorSlayer> I'
[5:35] <PfhorSlayer> I'm looking to get a JTAG interface for debugging my kernel - can anyone recommend me a good one?
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[6:15] <jasongeng> Hello, I have compiled the latest version of omxplayer. It plays well but I cannot control it with keyboard as before. Any advice? The omxplayer build is Build date: 15/09/2013 22:00 CEST, Git version: 3e8d718.
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[6:18] <jasongeng> Hello, this is the first time I come here. Seems nobody around here. Is it always like this?
[6:19] <PfhorSlayer> People are here.
[6:20] <jasongeng> Anyone compiles omxplayer recently?
[6:20] <jasongeng> My compilation doesn't work for keyboard control. Anyone has similar issues?
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[8:34] <Jusii> do you have dbus installed?
[8:35] <Jusii> not sure if that has anything to do with it, but I think I read from somewhere that it uses dbus for that now
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[9:25] <Nefarious___> if I try to "ip add -blackhole <ip> the rpi crashes. what's happening?
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[9:46] <superdump> ahoy
[9:46] <superdump> i'm just wondering if there's anything special about the NOOBS installation of raspbian / openelec / raspbmc ?
[9:47] <superdump> i thought it looked convenient to be able to very easily install multiple distros onto one SD card rather than using multiple SD cards and swapping them when i want to play with something else
[9:48] <superdump> for example, do the openelec / raspbmc auto update functions still work? (i'm asking because i saw a comment that raspbian, for example, cannot be updated when using NOOBS
[9:49] <superdump> but perhps it was intended to mean that you can't use NOOBS to update to a new version of NOOBS or something...?)
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[9:51] <superdump> and it's a shame that the NOOBS v1.3 torrent tracker isn't behaving properly
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[10:52] <BlackBishop> Anybody using their pis to encode to something the GPU supports hardware encoding (av1/mpeg2) ?
[10:53] <superdump> i will be
[10:53] <BlackBishop> using ffmpeg ?
[10:53] <superdump> h.264
[10:53] <superdump> no
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[10:56] <BlackBishop> I'm trying to downscale some fullhd mkvs (h264/ aac|dts) to something lower .. like 640x480/320x240(or their 16:9 friends)
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[10:57] <BlackBishop> my atom/nvidia ion don't get past 13fps :|
[10:57] <BlackBishop> ( the container will be flv )
[10:57] <superdump> hmm
[10:58] <superdump> i haven't really used libav/ffmpeg in a long time so i don't know anything about whether it can leverage the rpi hardware for scaling
[10:58] <BlackBishop> what will you use then ? :D
[10:58] <BlackBishop> ( not only downscale .. but also lower quality .. I'm trying to get some smaller files but in watchable quality )
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[11:06] <superdump> BlackBishop: gstreamer with gst-omx
[11:06] <BlackBishop> is that cli based ?
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[11:06] <superdump> i haven't investigated scaling yet so i don't know if it will be software or if there's some openmax component to do it or something else for transcoding pipelines
[11:06] <superdump> it can be
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[11:08] <superdump> i'd have to do some research and googling to see what can be used for accelerated scaling on the rpi
[11:08] <superdump> :)
[11:11] * BlackBishop imagines his pi can do what my nvidia couldn't ...
[11:11] <BlackBishop> that'd be awesome
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[11:24] <superdump> BlackBishop: i don't think there is any hardware accelerated scaling as scaling normally happens for playback
[11:25] <superdump> both ffmpeg/libav and gstreamer scaling code should be assembly-optimised for rpi
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[11:25] <superdump> and unless there's some way to leverage some EGL stuff for scaling in any feasible way and that would probably still require some coding effort, i think software scaling is the only option
[11:26] <superdump> what is it that you're actually trying to achieve
[11:26] <superdump> ?
[11:26] <superdump> reduced bitrate, but why?
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[11:37] * Xark was under the impression that Raspberry Pi GPU has no trouble scaling at playback time...
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[11:37] <EpixP0ison> anybody know a way to display cpu usage as a percentage in bash :/
[11:39] <Xark> EpixP0ison: Hmm, perhaps "uptime" in combination with "cut"?
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[11:39] <EpixP0ison> that wouldnt really do a percentage though just loads something like ps-ux then adding up all the percents :/
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[11:40] <Xark> EpixP0ison: So you want something similar to the % at the top of top (but not loadavg, which shows >100 when swamped).
[11:41] <EpixP0ison> i guess
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[11:43] <BlackBishop> whoa .. the pi gets to ~20fps .. my nvidia ion just got to ~13 ...
[11:43] <BlackBishop> now to downscale
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[11:44] <BlackBishop> the thing is on my pi .. avconv seems to ignore my -s flag :|
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[11:45] <BlackBishop> nvm .. I forgot that I've passed it -vcodec copy ..
[11:45] <BlackBishop> if I pass the same libx264 .. it gets down to 3fps :D
[11:46] <BlackBishop> so the problem is downscaling :-(
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[11:48] <BlackBishop> superdump: I'm trying to get from some big fullhd mkv files to some small flv files that can be streamed to some that have low bandwidth :|
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[11:48] <BlackBishop> for preview purposes :|
[11:49] <superdump> over the web or on a lan?
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[11:49] <BlackBishop> over the web
[11:49] <superdump> flv... web i guess
[11:49] <superdump> hmm
[11:49] <superdump> well you should be able to do it on an rpi just fine, but software scaling might be slow
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[11:52] <BlackBishop> it seems so .. 2-3fps :-(
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[11:52] <BlackBishop> the ion is faster ( ofcourse ) then ..
[11:52] <BlackBishop> lets see if I can get a newer thing like intel's NUC
[11:53] <ShorTie> try a amd agu
[11:53] <ShorTie> apu i mean
[11:53] <EpixP0ison> Xark any ideas?
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[11:54] <Xark> EpixP0ison: Well, you could parse the percentage from top, but I bet there may be another way to get it that is more efficient.
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[11:55] <EpixP0ison> hmm
[11:55] <EpixP0ison> i have been googling for hours :/
[11:55] <EpixP0ison> so i dont think there is a more effeciant way
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[11:57] <BlackBishop> ShorTie: not a big fan of amd .. for no reason
[11:57] <BlackBishop> I'm not using an asrock 152d I have for a couple of years now ..
[11:57] <BlackBishop> maybe it's time to upgrade to an intel i3 NUC
[11:59] <superdump> BlackBishop: so, it seems that there is some openmax scaler and if you keep everything in the videocore (the gpu stuff) then it should be able to efficiently decode, scale and encode
[11:59] <superdump> but that functionality isn't available with gstreamer and gst-omx yet
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[12:00] <superdump> and i don't know about anything else
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[12:00] <BlackBishop> awesome, I guess I'll have to wait then ? :)
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[12:01] <Xark> EpixP0ison: Hmm, perhaps http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/how-do-i-find-out-linux-cpu-utilization.html
[12:01] <EpixP0ison> been there
[12:01] <EpixP0ison> nope
[12:01] <EpixP0ison> i need it as a % as i plan to display it on a lcd :/
[12:01] <EpixP0ison> so i litterly need minimal information
[12:02] <superdump> BlackBishop: i don't know how long you'll be waiting, depending on your media library size, it might be longer than the time to transcode, who knows? :)
[12:02] <superdump> also, why do you have to transcode on the rpi?
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[12:05] <Xark> EpixP0ison: It is easy to "throw away" the info you don't need (see "cut").
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[12:06] <Xark> EpixP0ison: (perhaps in conjunction with "grep" to toss the uninteresting lines).
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[12:07] <BlackBishop> superdump: the media library is about 21Tb big .. :|
[12:08] <BlackBishop> superdump: I don't have to use the rpi :) Just thought it might be an alternative ( I remembered the gpu is beefy enough but didn't have much details )
[12:08] <superdump> it seems it's technically feasible to use an rpi transcoding farm
[12:09] <superdump> but the software i know of doesn't support it yet - maybe there are some non-libav / non-gstreamer tools that can do it
[12:09] * superdump doesn't know
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[12:10] <Xark> EpixP0ison: For example, this displays the CPU idle percentage: top -n 1| grep "Cpu(s)" | cut -d " " -f 8 | cut -d "%" -f 1
[12:10] <BlackBishop> oh well, I'll try to benchmark a NUC and see if it's better than my ION .. it should be since i3 > ion and my ion/atom is a couple years old
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[12:12] <BlackBishop> http://ark.intel.com/compare/65697,49490
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[12:13] <EpixP0ison> actualkly that didnt work
[12:14] <EpixP0ison> i played about with awk but no luck :/
[12:14] <EpixP0ison> i have most of it done :/
[12:14] <EpixP0ison> free -m | grep Mem: | awk {'print "RAM: "$3"M of "$2"M"'}
[12:14] <EpixP0ison> and some other bits :p
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[12:14] <Xark> EpixP0ison: Well, that works on my Linux machine (x86 though, RPi is not handy).
[12:14] <EpixP0ison> ah :p
[12:14] <Xark> EpixP0ison: It is "fragile" to the exact versions installed.
[12:15] <EpixP0ison> yeh xD
[12:15] <EpixP0ison> so far ive done current ip HDD RAM working on temp and cpu%
[12:15] <Xark> EpixP0ison: I suspect it would be trivial to tweak for RPi, but awk is good too,
[12:15] <EpixP0ison> temp i have but its displayed to long
[12:15] <Nefarious___> how do I null route an IP on the rpi? ip add -blackhole <IP> doesn't work - the RPI stops responding
[12:15] <EpixP0ison> its disploayed like 42315
[12:15] <SpeedEvil> useless use of grep
[12:15] <EpixP0ison> just want it to display 42
[12:16] <SpeedEvil> awk '/Mem:/{print...
[12:16] <EpixP0ison> ?
[12:16] <EpixP0ison> oh
[12:16] <EpixP0ison> meh
[12:17] <SpeedEvil> awk is a pattern ,matching language, no need for grep.
[12:18] <SpeedEvil> EpixP0ison: would loadavg*100 work?
[12:18] <EpixP0ison> possibly :/
[12:18] <EpixP0ison> i just need to get the total cpu % so i guess yes
[12:21] <BlackBishop> I'll wait for the http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/nuc/nuc-kit-d54250wyk.html to get out :)
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[12:27] <EpixP0ison> now trying to use expr with the tewmp output :/
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[12:38] <new2013> Have r.pi rev B running raspbian. RTC installed and working but OS does not use it at boot. Have edited raspi-blacklist.conf, /etc/modules, /etc/rc.local. Have removed pkg fake-hwclock.
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[12:39] <new2013> What step have I missed?
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[12:48] <EpixP0ison> BINGO! cat /sys/class/thermal/thermal_zone0/temp | cut -d '=' -f2 | sed 's/...$//' | awk {'print "Temp: "$1"c"'}
[12:48] <EpixP0ison> temps working
[12:52] <AndrevS> good afternoon.
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[13:19] <Peetz0r> Hi! Howcan I play video files in a seamless loop (using omxplayer)?
[13:20] <Peetz0r> I've seen that there are forks and patches for omxplayer that provide this functionality but no official release
[13:20] <Peetz0r> and the only binaries I could find didn't work
[13:21] <ShorTie> sounds like patch-n-compile time
[13:22] <Peetz0r> okay. Should I compile on the Pi, or on my laptop?
[13:22] <Peetz0r> an where do I actually start?
[13:23] <ShorTie> if i was gonna use it on a rPi, i'd compile it on a rPi
[13:23] <angelos> if you have a working cross compilation setup, do it on your laptop. if you have a lot of time, do it on your pi :P
[13:23] <ShorTie> download the sources and start patching
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[13:23] <Peetz0r> angelos: I have neither
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[13:24] <angelos> buy a rpi cluster then
[13:24] * ShorTie snickers
[13:24] <Peetz0r> I have only one Pi, and I need this functionality tomorrow :p
[13:24] <Peetz0r> how much time does compiling on the Pi actually take?
[13:25] <Peetz0r> should I OC it to 1000? :p
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[13:41] <scottstamp> ugh. My Raspi's performance is absolutely abysmal for some reason! I think it's my stupid crappy SD card. Is there an easy way to boot from an External HDD?
[13:42] <ShorTie> you can not get away from the sdcard
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[13:43] <ShorTie> but BerryBoot can stick most of it on a usb drive i believe
[13:43] <scottstamp> I know I need some form of SD card in there. Could a 2GB cut it?
[13:44] <ShorTie> sure
[13:44] <scottstamp> I'm kind of a noob to this. I know how to dd images to my devices and such, but not a lot else to be honest. :( Are there any popular tutorials?
[13:48] <ShorTie> have you check the forums ??
[13:49] <davor> hello
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[13:49] <scottstamp> Not really, I don't know where to start! :(
[13:50] <ShorTie> with the search button maybe
[13:50] <mrmoney2012> hi all - any pi camera experts about… raspivid -t 0 <- does that command start recording video to a file
[13:50] <mrmoney2012> what if i just want the preview and not the file
[13:51] <scottstamp> ShorTie: Fair enough. I'll dig. Thanks.
[13:51] <mrmoney2012> building a point and click camera.. with a screen on it !
[13:54] <ShorTie> scottstamp, this might help http://www.berryterminal.com/doku.php/berryboot
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[13:56] <davor> aren't all cameras point and click? :p
[13:57] <ShorTie> not really
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[14:00] <BlackBishop> davor: my dslr has a "point and click" mode ..
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[14:01] <davor> interesting. I obviously have no idea what "point and click" means in this context hehe
[14:05] <Jusii> mrmoney2012: -o -
[14:05] <Jusii> raspivid -t 0 -o - | omxplayer
[14:06] <mrmoney2012> oh yeah… well in my case it's a battery powered pi with a push button switch and a camera. press the button get a pic
[14:06] <mrmoney2012> Jusii: oooo, thanks - trying
[14:07] <mrmoney2012> will omxplayer play the stream ? i will try
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[14:08] <mrmoney2012> flashes an image for a brief moment than kicks me back to command line
[14:09] <Jusii> hmm maybe omxplayer doesn't accept stream from stdin. try with fifo then
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[14:10] <mrmoney2012> chow do I do that ?
[14:10] <mrmoney2012> how
[14:10] <Jusii> mkfifo movie.mp4 ; raspivid -t 0 -o movie.mp4
[14:10] <Jusii> omxplayer movie.mp4
[14:13] <mrmoney2012> thanks...
[14:14] <mrmoney2012> just have to get my head around it.
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[14:14] <mrmoney2012> mkfifo movie.mp4 ; raspivid -t 0 -o movie.mp4 <--- this gives me a live video
[14:15] <Jusii> mkfifo makes a named pipe, you put something in from another end and then can read it from the other
[14:15] <mrmoney2012> ok… file movie.mp4
[14:15] <mrmoney2012> movie.mp4: fifo (named pipe)
[14:15] <mrmoney2012> thanks...
[14:16] <mrmoney2012> image is brilliant… latency is minimal
[14:16] <mrmoney2012> would like to power my 7 inch screen from battery also - that'll be next challenge
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[14:18] <mrmoney2012> all good fun anyway - thanks again
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[16:51] <mavrikiy_rvachka> hey guys! i've been trying to connect raspberry to my pc through UART with putty or minicom. i've already get rs232 (3,3 V) signal converter and attach it to correct pins on my board. also, i deleted all references to ttyAMA0 in cmdline.txt but still i have nothing on my minicom console. could somebody advise me what i have to do next?
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[16:53] <pzp> can anyone recommend a wifi dongle for my pi?
[16:54] <mavrikiy_rvachka> hey guys! i've been trying to connect raspberry to my pc through UART with putty or minicom. i've already get rs232 (3,3 V) signal converter and attach it to correct pins on my board. also, i deleted all references to ttyAMA0 in cmdline.txt but still i have nothing on my minicom console. could somebody advise me what i have to do next?
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[16:57] <Jeebiss> pzp: I bought a AirLink AWLL5099 of of eBay and it works great.
[16:58] <pzp> Jeebias: how much?
[16:58] <pzp> *Jeebiss^
[16:58] <Jeebiss> Errrm
[16:58] <pzp> lol
[16:58] <Jeebiss> Im checking now
[16:58] <Jeebiss> $11.90
[16:58] <Jusii> mavrikiy_rvachka: raspbian? check /etc/inittab that T0... line is uncommented
[16:58] <Jusii> and from there you see the serial settings too
[16:59] <Jeebiss> pzp: http://www.ebay.com/itm/390656464057?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649
[16:59] <Jeebiss> thats the exact guy i bought it from, came in like 3 days
[17:00] <mavrikiy_rvachka> <Jusii> i don't have any OS on R-pi, and don't want it.. i need u-boot just for loading binary files to memory
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[17:03] <pzp> Jeebiss: that seems pretty expensive
[17:03] <Jeebiss> 11 bucks?
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[17:03] <Jeebiss> Good luck getting a 4 dollar, no-namer to work without a lot of hassle
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[17:05] <Jeebiss> the old addage, 'you get what you pay for' comes to mind.
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[17:19] <Kymru> quick question, if i install a distro to SD card, whether thats RaspXBMC, Raspbian or Openelec, install what i need (transmission and ZNC for instance) before expanding the systen, then saved it, could i install the saved IMG to any other SD card proving SD card wasnt smaller than the IMG file
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[17:20] <Jeebiss> Sure
[17:20] <Jeebiss> There are a couple programs that can make SD card images, and reapply them later
[17:20] <Tonbi_v6> you wanna restore img to small size SD?
[17:21] <Jeebiss> http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=91&t=26463
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[17:36] <Kymru> well restore to any SD card, i had Raspbian setup sweet on my card, it decided not to work, so i made an image to restore to another SD card (both 32Gb), when i went to burn that image to the othre SD card, i got an error saying the image was to big for the card
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[17:37] <Kymru> so if i save the image before expanding, i shouldnt have that problem again
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[18:46] <pzp> Jeebiss: I guess you're right
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[18:50] <gog> so I have a broken smartphone and I've managed to get the display out of it; I think it's DSI, but I'm not 100% certain. the only info I can find on the model number is a guy asking for a replacement for the same phone, and a website in Japanese (which I cannot read and is not translating)
[18:50] <gog> any way to be certain?
[18:50] <gog> other than hooking it up and seeing what happens?
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[18:51] <x29a> gog: where did the cable go to? can you trace it to the controller, maybe that provides better information
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[18:52] <gog> lemme grab the phone's board and look
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[18:54] <gog> there's a heat spreader, this is going to take a minute
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[18:58] <PfhorSlayer> Anyone have a link or any info about the clock registers?
[18:59] <PfhorSlayer> the ones that are at offset 0x101000 from the peripheral base reg
[18:59] <PfhorSlayer> there doesn't seem to be any documentation on them in the peripherals guide
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[19:08] <gog> I can't trace it
[19:08] <mgottschlag> PfhorSlayer: well... we have *some* information
[19:08] <mgottschlag> nothing official, but a bit reversed engineering
[19:09] <gog> also looking at the DSI port on the RPi makes me think that this isn't it
[19:09] <gog> it's some other interface standard
[19:09] <mgottschlag> PfhorSlayer: https://github.com/hermanhermitage/videocoreiv/wiki/Register-Documentation
[19:10] <PfhorSlayer> Awesome, thank you!
[19:10] <PfhorSlayer> How did I never find that list before?
[19:10] <mgottschlag> also see https://github.com/mgottschlag/vctools/blob/master/tracer/bootloader.s for an example how the GPU bootloader initializes the processor clock (VPU_CTL) and the 1MHz timer (TIME_CTL) etc
[19:11] <mgottschlag> PfhorSlayer: you'll notice that most parts of it are nonexisting :p
[19:12] <PfhorSlayer> Still, that's way more information than I had before :)
[19:12] <PfhorSlayer> Thank you again!
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[19:17] <knob> Hello everyone. I am playing with a rPi here, and a sript uploads a file via ftp. It was working fine with ethernet cable. I just installed a wifi dongle, and it connects fine to the wifi network. Yet now, the rPi can't find the ftp.WEBSITE.com address.
[19:17] <knob> Any idea what could be going on?
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[19:17] <PfhorSlayer> DNS doesn't work maybe?
[19:18] <gordonDrogon> have you tried some basic diagnostics like host/ping/etc.
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[19:18] <knob> on my way
[19:18] <gordonDrogon> host ftp.website.com ; ping ftp.website.com
[19:18] <knob> can't ping google
[19:18] <knob> yet I'm connected to the rPi via wifi (using KiTTY)
[19:18] <PfhorSlayer> try pinging 74.125.224.96
[19:18] <ShorTie> have you configured your ssid, passwords and stuff
[19:18] <gordonDrogon> default route? output of netstat -rn
[19:18] <PfhorSlayer> that's google's IP
[19:19] <knob> At least I can ping my router
[19:19] <pksato> knob: traceroute 8.8.8.8
[19:19] <knob> 192.168.1.1
[19:19] <gordonDrogon> PfhorSlayer, 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 is easier to remember :)
[19:19] <PfhorSlayer> those are google's DNS servers though
[19:19] <PfhorSlayer> not google.com
[19:19] <PfhorSlayer> they could be down!!! ;)
[19:19] <knob> the traceroute 8.8.8.8 didn't even do one hop
[19:19] <gordonDrogon> unlikely. they use geo ip routing. different in every country.
[19:19] <knob> I just returned connectL Network is unreachable
[19:20] <knob> ShorTie, yeah... they're configured... as I'm connecting to the rPi via network (WiFi)
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[19:20] <pksato> no default route
[19:20] <knob> Would it be in my rPi's linux side, or router?
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[19:21] <knob> I don't see why it would be the router... as if I connect a wifi device, it has full net access not problems
[19:21] <pksato> knob: how rpi wifi get ip? manual, dhcp?
[19:21] <knob> Vanilla router install... no rules/forwarding or anything
[19:21] <knob> dhcp
[19:21] <pksato> same route when ethernet was connected?
[19:22] <knob> Mmm... from the traceroute?
[19:22] <knob> I haven't tried that one... traceroute when connected via ethernet
[19:22] <knob> want me to do that test?
[19:23] <PfhorSlayer> Do you have other devices connected through WiFi that work?
[19:23] <knob> Yes... and they're working fine
[19:24] <knob> I have a tablet and a laptop... they both hop on the wifi network just fine
[19:24] <PfhorSlayer> well at least you know that's not the issue :)
[19:24] <knob> my workstation (this one I'm typing) is via ethernet
[19:24] <knob> Ok ok
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[19:24] <pksato> that is result of: ip route show | grep ^def
[19:25] <knob> I just did: ip route show and it came back 192.168.1.0/24 dev wlan0 proto kernel scope link src 192.168.1.9
[19:26] <pksato> dont have line starting whit default?
[19:26] <knob> mmm... in that command I just ran?
[19:26] <knob> It returned only that
[19:26] <pksato> yes
[19:26] <knob> that one line
[19:26] <pksato> ok, dont have a default gateway.
[19:27] <knob> ah ok
[19:27] <knob> I followed these: http://learn.adafruit.com/adafruits-raspberry-pi-lesson-3-network-setup/setting-up-wifi-with-occidentalis
[19:27] <pksato> you use /etc/network/interfaces ?
[19:27] <knob> yes sir
[19:27] <knob> the only change I did, was that I commented out the original lines that the instruction didn't use... I commented them out with a #
[19:28] <pksato> try, ifdown eth0; ifdown wlan0; ifup wlan0
[19:28] <knob> wait... something went off in my head
[19:28] <knob> lemme reboot
[19:28] <knob> or trying that first
[19:29] <ShorTie> maybe pastebin your /etc/network/interfaces so we can take a peek
[19:29] <knob> When I did the changes, I rebooted the rPi, yet left the ethernet cable plugged... then later I unplugged it
[19:29] <pksato> if ssh, you can lost terminal access for while.
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[19:29] <knob> pksato, those did it...
[19:29] <knob> ShorTie, and all other PfhorSlayer thank you
[19:29] <knob> It's working now
[19:29] <knob> I think that I rebooted the rPi with the WiFi and ethernet
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[19:29] <knob> and "something" happened, that I unplugged the ethernet... so she tried to go out that way
[19:30] <knob> doing the down/up of the wlan0 did it
[19:30] <knob> Thanks guys =)
[19:30] <knob> Much appreciated
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[19:30] <knob> =D
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[19:30] <pksato> knob: wifi and ethent have same gateway, when you remove cable, lost it.
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[19:30] <knob> Ahh... good info good info
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[19:50] <Kymru> does anyone know a quick easy way to win7 64bit pc to connect to Raspbian ovr samba, i am having password issues logging in from win7
[19:51] <Kymru> bypass password maybe?
[19:51] <PfhorSlayer> for the clock sources, what are the frequencies of PLLA, PLLB and PLLC?
[19:52] <PfhorSlayer> I found a stack overflow answer that says they're 650, 400, and 200Mhz, respectively
[19:52] <PfhorSlayer> is that correct?
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[20:05] <mgottschlag> PfhorSlayer: good question, that sounds too low to me
[20:05] <mgottschlag> I mean to remember that the GPU core PLL was at 1GHz
[20:05] <mgottschlag> if you want, dump your register region and I'll have a look and try to deduce the value
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[20:10] <PfhorSlayer> I'm writing C interfaces for the clock manager
[20:10] <PfhorSlayer> I was hoping to be able to pass in a frequency and the desired clock source and work out what the divisor should be
[20:10] <PfhorSlayer> but I can't without knowing what those PLL sources are clocked at... which registers would you need output?
[20:11] <PfhorSlayer> (What is "PLL," anyway?)
[20:14] <mgottschlag> eh, the A2W memory region or something like that
[20:14] <mgottschlag> PLL is phase locked loop, some clock generator, usually built around a VCO (voltage controlled oscillator) and some feedback to convert the generated frequency back into a voltage
[20:14] <PfhorSlayer> Ah, gotcha
[20:14] <PfhorSlayer> what is A2W?
[20:15] <PfhorSlayer> Sorry if my knowledge of acronyms isn't up to snuff here ;)
[20:15] <ShorTie> A&W is rootbeer
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[20:19] <mgottschlag> PfhorSlayer: if you find out, tell us, because we have no idea
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[20:20] <mgottschlag> we just know that invalid memory reads in that area return that string
[20:20] <mgottschlag> https://github.com/hermanhermitage/videocoreiv/wiki/Register-Documentation#wiki-region_13
[20:20] <PfhorSlayer> Ah!
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[20:21] <PfhorSlayer> I should read through that entire page before asking anything else
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[20:21] <mgottschlag> to calculate the frequency, use 19.2 * (multiplier + fractional/1024) or something
[20:21] <PfhorSlayer> yeah, if I'm using the oscillator as the source
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[20:21] <PfhorSlayer> otherwise it's sourceFrequency * (int-part * frac-part/1024)
[20:26] <mgottschlag> btw, once you have something usable, maybe drop us a line in #raspberrypi-internals
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[20:39] <PfhorSlayer> mgottschlag: All of those A2W regs read back as 0
[20:39] <mgottschlag> hm, that shouldn't happen
[20:39] <PfhorSlayer> Unless I'm doing something wrong, let me double check
[20:40] <mgottschlag> unless they are somehow unreadable from the ARM core, but I think I already did that before
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[20:42] <PfhorSlayer> Whoops, forgot a zero
[20:43] <PfhorSlayer> ah yes, works now! :)
[20:44] <PfhorSlayer> I'm assuming that the PLLD on the register listing is actually supposed to be PLLB?
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[20:44] <Vanfanel> Hi there
[20:45] <Vanfanel> Have you guys been able to enter FinalBurn Alpha service mode in games??
[20:45] <PfhorSlayer> anyway: PLLA mul: 0xAAA048 mul2: 0x21048 div: 0x100; PLLB/D mul: 0x555034 mul2: 0x21034 div: 0x100; PLLC mul: 0x555034 mul2: 0x21034 div: 0x02
[20:45] <Vanfanel> It says "L+R+SELECT"
[20:45] <Vanfanel> but there's no way to enter service mode doing that
[20:46] <mgottschlag> 19.2MHz + 0x34 / 2
[20:46] <mgottschlag> (PLLC)
[20:46] <mgottschlag> argh, * 0x34
[20:46] <mgottschlag> 0x48 for PLLA
[20:47] <PfhorSlayer> what do the mul values mean then?
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[20:47] <PfhorSlayer> oh, they're the same
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[20:47] <PfhorSlayer> flag bits and such in the upper part of those registers?
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[21:15] <kraptv> Hey everyone. I got annoyed at a lack of a script that gave a summary of the hardware configuration of the raspberry pi.
[21:15] <kraptv> so, I wrote one. anyone here with a Model A that can test it out to see if the detection is appropriate?
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[21:16] <kraptv> I'd like some others to give me some feedback. It's a work in progress.
[21:17] <kraptv> Anyone willing to take a look??
[21:17] <kraptv> I guess I could post on the web forum.
[21:21] <XpineX> kraptv: post a link and let us try it out ;-)
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[21:23] <kraptv> OK!
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[21:24] <PipeDale> o_o
[21:25] <PipeDale> my RPi died :o
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[21:25] <gordonDrogon> lost the magic smoke?
[21:25] <Vanfanel> PipeDale: How's that? I never saw a Pi die
[21:25] <PipeDale> well i say died
[21:25] <PipeDale> It restarted :(
[21:25] <Vanfanel> PipeDale: Are you sure it's not the SD card?
[21:26] <kraptv> alrighty: http://ryan.sayr.eu/~ryan/system-info/
[21:26] <kraptv> you will see both the script and the sample output.
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[21:28] <kraptv> Any thoughts?
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[21:30] <XpineX> kraptv: ran it on my rPI (model B) running raspbmc and it worked perfectly, ran it on another rPi (also model B) running raspbian, got this output: http://pastebin.com/AXZV6XwD
[21:31] <kraptv> Interesting!
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[21:31] <kraptv> XpineX: what do you see when you do "df -h" on the system where it was funky?
[21:31] <kraptv> (/dev/sda?)
[21:31] <shiftplusone> XpineX, that's a problem with your pi. Looks like a firmware issue. Though kraptv's script should have a way to enture VC is properly initialized.
[21:32] <XpineX> kraptv: output of df -h - http://pastebin.com/3JtXjxAe
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[21:32] <shiftplusone> XpineX, did you run rpi-update at some stage or mess around with the kernel and modules?
[21:33] <kraptv> XpineX - hmm. does doing a raw "fdisk -l /dev/mmcblk0" work?
[21:33] <XpineX> I did run rpi-update
[21:34] <XpineX> kraptv, not without beeing root
[21:34] <shiftplusone> XpineX, there's your problem.
[21:34] <XpineX> (sudo)
[21:34] <kraptv> XpineX - yeah. I need environmentals to be reported as root.
[21:35] <kraptv> I suppose I could make a dumb complaint at the top saying "I need this as root, sir"
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[21:35] <XpineX> maybe, but it worked without problems without sudo on my raspbmc install
[21:35] <shiftplusone> again, this is a firmware issue... nothing to do with kraptv's script.
[21:36] <XpineX> as shiftplusone says, it is probably my installation of raspbian that is f*cked
[21:36] <shiftplusone> Well, I wouldn't put it in those terms, since than would get me kicked, but yes.
[21:36] <XpineX> shiftplusone, do you know of an "easy" fix or should I just re-image ?
[21:36] <mgottschlag> "(20:47:41) PfhorSlayer: flag bits and such in the upper part of those registers?" - no idea
[21:37] <shiftplusone> XpineX, do you need to use rpi-update? are you testing the next branch or anything like that?
[21:37] <XpineX> Nope, I don't remember why I ran rpi-update, it is several months ago
[21:38] <shiftplusone> XpineX, I would try reinstalling the firmware, kernel, modules packages. I don't know what the names are in raspbian.
[21:38] <kraptv> I've now updated it to check if uid root is happening.
[21:38] <shiftplusone> search the repo for raspberrypi, I think.
[21:38] <XpineX> Ok, thanks
[21:38] <kraptv> does that mean that raspbmc is running as default uid 0 ?!
[21:38] <kraptv> yikes!~
[21:39] <XpineX> Not sure what is done, I am logging in as a "normal" user
[21:39] <kraptv> Hmm.. ok.
[21:41] <kraptv> Also made a note to have bc installed on the system.
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[21:41] <kraptv> XpineX: can you "apt-get install bc" on your raspbian system?
[21:41] <kraptv> as root of course.
[21:41] <XpineX> give me a sec
[21:42] <kraptv> and then download the newer version and run it as root and see if it works? (if you needed to update your firmware, then perhaps after you've rebooted?)
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[21:44] <XpineX> kraptv: output after installation of bc, but still with "bad" firmware - http://pastebin.com/zQEYqymC
[21:44] <XpineX> I am not going to be able to reboot the rpi any time soon
[21:44] <shiftplusone> XpineX, if you got that output, I was wrong.
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[21:47] <XpineX> kraptv: here is output from another rpi with "normal" firmware and bc installed: http://pastebin.com/zNAjpDwy
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[21:47] <XpineX> Seems to work fine... Unfortunately I do not have any model A's so can not test that for you
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[21:48] <kraptv> Really cool. thanks for this!
[21:48] <kraptv> You've cranked down the GPU down to 16MB on that system, are you running it headless?
[21:48] <XpineX> Yes :)
[21:49] <kraptv> Alrighty. I hope this is helpful.
[21:49] <kraptv> temperature, serial numbers, memory / disk summary, voltage, etc.
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[21:50] <pvr> Hi, any experiences with buliding for the r-pi via yocto/oe? I built the rpi-basic-image, and I saw that there is also a rpi-huw-image, but how can I add the xorg-xserver recipe? I tried making a new .bb file, but it complains that it does not have the LICENSE field set... any ideas?
[21:51] <PipeDale> what's the latest kernel
[21:51] <PipeDale> on debian?
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[21:52] <kraptv> that reminded me - I need to reboot my rpi as well, just installed a new firmware.
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[21:54] <kraptv> alright, back in biz in case anyone was trying to download. ;-)
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[22:32] <Bozza> What are the command for wiring pi again?
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[22:33] <davor> gpio readall for instance Bozza
[22:33] <Bozza> Thanks
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[22:51] <kraptv> Alright. I posted my system-info script on the RaspberryPi forum.
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[22:53] <Bozza> Wasn't there a command similar to GPIO readall?
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[22:56] <Bozza> Hmm I pulled the pins 0 ,2 and 3 up
[22:56] <Bozza> But after a reboot they're down again
[22:57] <shiftplusone> 'course
[22:57] <Bozza> Why is that?
[22:57] <shiftplusone> because the hardware was re-initialized
[22:57] <ShorTie> reboot is like a master reset
[22:59] <Bozza> In that case let me switch 0v and 5v :/
[23:00] <Bozza> 3.3 Even
[23:00] <shiftplusone> what?
[23:01] <Bozza> Ok now I messed something up
[23:02] <Bozza> Big time
[23:03] <Bozza> Ok pi is back on
[23:03] <Bozza> The pi keeps touching something .. And keeps resetting
[23:03] <Bozza> Scary
[23:03] <ShorTie> just so there is no smoke
[23:03] <Bozza> No smoke :)
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[23:04] <Bozza> The 0v pin is the fifth pin down right?
[23:04] <Bozza> When counting from the sd slot
[23:04] <shiftplusone> on the left
[23:04] <shiftplusone> or third on the right
[23:04] <shiftplusone> what are you doing?
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[23:05] <Bozza> Connecting buttons to my pi
[23:05] <shiftplusone> do you have a schematic of what you're doing?
[23:05] <Bozza> I did before
[23:05] <Bozza> Now I am trying to do it from memory
[23:05] <shiftplusone> it sounds like you shorting things
[23:06] <shiftplusone> in which case, you're killing your pi
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[23:06] <Bozza> http://imgur.com/bp4076s
[23:07] <Bozza> When I move the pi to the right it restarts
[23:07] <Bozza> Can't tell what it is
[23:07] <double-you> omg
[23:07] <shiftplusone> is.... is that a metal case?
[23:07] <ShorTie> oh no, not metal
[23:07] <Bozza> Ehmm yes
[23:07] * ShorTie was thinking about that earlier
[23:08] <Bozza> Lol pi doesn't like metal?
[23:08] <double-you> don't put your pi on a metal surface lol
[23:08] <shiftplusone> Bozza, not just the pi, ALL electronics.... you're shorting things randomly!
[23:08] <ShorTie> slap a cardboard plate under atleast
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[23:08] <Bozza> double-you: at least now I know what is causing the "emergency restart" :D
[23:08] <shiftplusone> I am surprised it still works
[23:09] <Bozza> ShorTie: will do
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[23:09] <Bozza> ShorTie: great idea
[23:09] <double-you> Bozza: you can be happy that nothing is damaged already
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[23:12] <Bozza> Ok now it's safer
[23:13] <Bozza> Pin 9 is the one I am looking for
[23:13] <ShorTie> ok, now put a screw into it to hold it down, lol.
[23:13] <Bozza> ShorTie: done :)
[23:13] <Bozza> Seems to have fixed that restarting issue
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[23:17] <double-you> dont do that again :-)
[23:17] <Bozza> When I pull GPIO pin 0 2 and 3 up my buttons are detected correctly
[23:17] <Bozza> If I leave them as it is nothing happens
[23:17] <Bozza> Do I need to change the +v and -v ?
[23:18] <Bozza> Where is gordonDrogon when one needs him? :)
[23:21] <shiftplusone> If you could draw a schematic of your circuit you would get help
[23:22] <Bozza> http://imgur.com/bp4076s
[23:22] <shiftplusone> Yeah, nobody is going to try to interpret that
[23:22] <Bozza> Three buttons
[23:22] <PfhorSlayer> what would you guys use to categorize mono vs stereo?
[23:22] <Bozza> With a resistor each
[23:22] <PfhorSlayer> those are both... whats?
[23:23] <shiftplusone> Would need a schematic, not a photo
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[23:23] <Bozza> shiftplusone: one sec
[23:23] <shiftplusone> thanks
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[23:28] <gordonDrogon> Bozza, evening.
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[23:29] <gordonDrogon> however I'm just popping in & out again - I've an early start, so time for bed...
[23:29] <gordonDrogon> zzz
[23:31] <PipeDale> gordonDrogon: uk?
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[23:34] <Bozza> http://imgur.com/ujA1Cs1
[23:34] <Bozza> gordonDrogon: hey Gordon if I set the pins to pull up will they reset every time I reboot?
[23:35] <shiftplusone> Bozza, that's not the correct way to wire switches.
[23:36] <shiftplusone> you have floating inputs
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[23:36] <shiftplusone> Bozza, http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~db434/raspi/images/EGHS-PullUpDownSwitchProtected.jpg
[23:37] <shiftplusone> http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~db434/raspi/buttons_and_switches/
[23:38] * ShorTie likes that 1st picture, i'd save it
[23:39] <Bozza> What's wrong with my layout
[23:39] <shiftplusone> Bozza, what happens when the switch is open?
[23:39] <shiftplusone> Bozza, the pin is connected to a resistor and then what?
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[23:39] <Bozza> When I press a button the circuit is complete
[23:40] <Bozza> And that goes into the GPIO
[23:40] <Bozza> ShorTie: do you mean my picture? :)
[23:40] * Bozza knew he was secretly an artist
[23:40] <shiftplusone> We're not at that stage yet.... it needs to be valid when the switch is open and when it's closed.
[23:40] <ShorTie> no, shiftplusone picture
[23:40] <Bozza> Oh :(
[23:40] <Bozza> shiftplusone: so right now it is invalid?
[23:41] <ShorTie> the problem is not when the switch is pushed, it is when it is not
[23:41] <shiftplusone> yes, it's not connected to anything.
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[23:41] <Bozza> It needs to be connected to something?
[23:41] <shiftplusone> not just something, but something that makes sense... like the circuit I found you.
[23:41] <shiftplusone> read that tutorial
[23:42] <shiftplusone> http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~db434/raspi/buttons_and_switches/
[23:42] <Bozza> What's the arrow on the bottom left?
[23:42] <shiftplusone> ground
[23:42] <shiftplusone> 0v
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[23:42] <pksato> Bozza: connect one end of switch to gnd, and other to gpio pin. set gpio pin to input and enable pull up resistor. and read, if not pressed result is 1, if pressed is 0.
[23:43] <mkopack> Holy lots of people in this room these days… I haven't been on here in forever
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[23:43] <shiftplusone> mkopack, welcome back
[23:43] <Bozza> pksato: I think that's what I have right now
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[23:44] <Bozza> But shiftplusone says it is wrong
[23:44] <rikkib> I us 560 ohm in the config pksato said
[23:45] <Bozza> shiftplusone: can you explain the diagram
[23:45] <Bozza> I am trying to visualise it
[23:45] <pksato> some guys put resistor in serie with switch.
[23:45] <rikkib> 1K gives random results
[23:46] <shiftplusone> Bozza, in the top circuit, the resistor acts as a pull up resistor. It pulls the signal high (to 3.3v). When you press the button, that point becomes ground, pulling it low.
[23:46] <pksato> this resistor is to prevent short circuit if pin is set to output and close switch.
[23:47] <shiftplusone> Bozza, you might be getting confused because you're being told two different methods right now.
[23:47] <shiftplusone> so I'll shut up
[23:47] <shiftplusone> listen to pksato.
[23:47] <Bozza> No no speak
[23:47] <pksato> have a lots ways to connect switch. :)
[23:47] <Bozza> I bow down before sith master shiftplusone :3
[23:47] <Bozza> :)
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[23:48] <shiftplusone> Bozza, The tutorial explains it better than I can. http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~db434/raspi/buttons_and_switches/
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[23:48] <ShorTie> just cause it works, does not make it proper
[23:49] <Bozza> shiftplusone: could you modify my piece of art with paint?
[23:50] <pksato> If you know that doing, not need any resistor, only switch.
[23:51] <Bozza> I don't understand what that arrow on the bottom left in the tutorial means shiftplusone
[23:51] <pksato> if now know, flow link of shiftplusone .
[23:51] <pksato> if not know.
[23:51] <shiftplusone> Bozza, hang on
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[23:51] <pksato> is symbol for gnd, ground.
[23:52] <ShorTie> if you know what your doing, you do it the right way i always thought
[23:52] <shiftplusone> Bozza, Hopefuly in terms that make sense... https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/175702/gpio.png
[23:52] <pksato> other symbol for gnd is a inverted T .
[23:52] <Bozza> shiftplusone: awesome!!! Haha thanks so much that's what I needed
[23:53] <shiftplusone> np
[23:53] <Bozza> Yea the vcc and 3.3 was confusing me
[23:53] * ShorTie snickers
[23:53] <Bozza> So vcc, gnd and 0v is all the same?
[23:53] <pksato> VCC is any positive voltage,
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[23:53] <shiftplusone> in this case, vcc is 3.3v
[23:54] <pksato> gnd is a reference voltage, on digital circuit is 0v.
[23:55] <Bozza> Got it
[23:55] <Bozza> Thanks all!!!
[23:55] <Bozza> Finally this makes sense to me
[23:55] <Bozza> Oh and the switch will turn the pin from hi to low right?
[23:56] <rikkib> Otherwise known as positive logic
[23:57] <Bozza> Alright going to have a go at re soldering
[23:57] <rikkib> Positive logic has one distinct advantage... When you power up the device you do not have things turning on while powering up.
[23:58] <pksato> GND normaly is presente over all circuit, is more easy to access that vcc.
[23:58] <shiftplusone> Bozza, good luck
[23:58] <Bozza> shiftplusone: ty
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