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IRC Log for 2013-10-04

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[0:20] <nmpro> *crickets*
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[0:29] <Bozza> Who here is good at compiling?
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[0:30] <zleap> hi, what happened to the python and python-pygames that used to be included with raspbian ?
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[0:32] <Bozza> zleap: hey
[0:32] <zleap> hey
[0:32] <Bozza> Not sure but install them with apt
[0:33] <zleap> ok
[0:33] <Bozza> And you will be fine
[0:33] <zleap> got some good stuff on the new image too
[0:33] <Bozza> I am pretty sure python is still included no ?
[0:33] <zleap> yeah
[0:33] <zleap> and idle
[0:33] <Bozza> Cool
[0:33] <zleap> even though i install geany
[0:33] <zleap> just find it easier to run
[0:33] <Bozza> what's that?
[0:33] <Bozza> geany
[0:33] <zleap> text editor
[0:34] <Bozza> Ahh ok nice nice .. Havnt used it yet
[0:34] <Bozza> Will check it out though
[0:34] <zleap> for programming, you can type a program, then click build and run
[0:34] <zleap> and it runs
[0:34] <Bozza> Wow that's cool
[0:34] <zleap> http://www.geany.org/
[0:34] <zleap> yeah
[0:34] <zleap> never really got on with idle that much
[0:35] <Bozza> Same here .. Not a fan of idle
[0:35] <zleap> its not really that friendly
[0:36] <Bozza> I have been trying to compile cython for so long
[0:36] <Bozza> It just isn't working
[0:36] <Bozza> On my ipad that is
[0:36] <Bozza> It keeps giving me and error
[0:36] <Bozza> an*
[0:37] <zleap> hmm
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[0:37] <zleap> cython ?
[0:37] <Bozza> http://pastebin.com/emUKVA4t
[0:37] <Bozza> cython converts python to c
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[0:38] <Bozza> It runs and compiles fine on the pi
[0:38] <Bozza> My ipad doesn't want to though
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[0:38] <sney> I imagine an ipad is kind of a weird dev environment
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[0:39] <zleap> it is still a nix type thing by the looks of it
[0:39] <zleap> maybe you need to set different options
[0:39] <zleap> what is cython anyway ?
[0:41] <Bozza> cython takes python code
[0:41] <Bozza> And turns it into c
[0:41] <Bozza> A translator of sorts
[0:41] <Bozza> But it isn't a pure translator as far as I understand
[0:41] <ShorTie> does your ipad have arch on it, or some kind of ios ??
[0:41] <Bozza> Either way it makes python run up to 70x faster
[0:41] <Bozza> ShorTie: iOS
[0:42] <Bozza> -arch is some option I think ... I don't think it means arch linux
[0:42] <ShorTie> then why you using the -arch option ??
[0:43] <Bozza> I am not .. I used "python setup.py install"
[0:43] <Bozza> Maybe I can install with make?
[0:43] <ShorTie> oh, your trying to do it by script kiddy
[0:44] <Bozza> ShorTie: how would you install it?
[0:44] <ShorTie> most likely i would think
[0:45] <ShorTie> i'd most likely do the ./configure, make route
[0:46] <Bozza> make gives the same error without all that stuff in the beginning
[0:46] <Bozza> It just gives me the very end bit where it says error
[0:46] <ShorTie> most of the time as long as you use it from the directory you compiled it in you don't need a 'make install'
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[0:47] <ShorTie> how about ./configure
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[0:48] <Bozza> No such file or directory
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[0:49] <Bozza> I don't understand where it is getting -arch from
[0:49] <ShorTie> have you looked into the script to see what is going on
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[0:50] <Bozza> http://imgur.com/4HBzRRw
[0:50] <Bozza> Into setup.py or the makefile?
[0:51] <zleap> -arch is architecture
[0:51] <zleap> i think
[0:53] <ShorTie> install.txt and setup.py would be worth lookin in
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[2:05] <eggy> hrm, why does my pi power cycle when I plugin a usb device o.O
[2:06] <Vanfanel> possibly a power supply related issue, eggy
[2:07] <eggy> that's what I've been wondering
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[2:09] <Syliss> yes, it it draws too much power, it will reboot
[2:10] <eggy> if the board does?
[2:11] <Syliss> no the usb device
[2:11] <Syliss> pretty much you get about 150mah for each usb port
[2:12] <Syliss> if your power supply does 1amp
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[2:14] <eggy> hm, I haven't got a clue what this power supply provides, its an iphone charger
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[2:59] <rigel> so i resized my archlinux partition on another machine but it wont boot now
[2:59] <rigel> i also changed the gpu ram settings, so that might be a problem?
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[3:01] <rigel> oh ffs
[3:01] <rigel> i changed back the gpu ram to be larger and it booted right up. why the heck does it need so much gpu ram, im running it headless
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[3:42] <knob> Hello everyone. Where would I report a 'bug' I found with the raspivid command ... when using the rPi camera board ??
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[3:53] <shiftplusone> knob, here, I would think. https://github.com/raspberrypi/userland/issues
[3:53] <knob> On my way shiftplusone ... thanks!
[3:53] <shiftplusone> np
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[5:38] <yehnan> Can I use rpi to mine bitcoin without buying extra miner hardware?
[5:38] <jlf> that would be extremely silly
[5:38] <sney> extremely.
[5:38] <jlf> but yes
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[5:42] <yehnan> jlf: yes means it's possible? how?
[5:42] <jlf> may i ask why you want to do that?
[5:44] <yehnan> jlf: for experimenting, for fun
[5:45] <jlf> bitcoin.org/en/download‎
[5:46] <jlf> i believe that includes mining code, otherwise search the web for linux bitcoin mining or somesuch
[5:48] <yehnan> jlf: I searched. All needs rpi+extra miner
[5:48] <yehnan> jlf: so I'm wondering is there a tutorial to use single rpi as miner.
[5:49] <jlf> you already downloaded and evaluated the software i linked?
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[5:51] <yehnan> yes
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[5:51] <yehnan> jlf: trying windows version first
[5:52] <sney> windows...
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[5:52] <yehnan> jlf: Bitcoin-Qt is wallet...not miner, i suppose.
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[5:52] <jlf> you suppose?
[5:53] <yehnan> jlf: excuse me. If i were wrong, please correct me.
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[5:53] <jlf> but why are you supposing when you say you already downloaded and evaluated that specific softare?
[5:53] <jlf> software even
[5:54] <sney> the 'download' url doesn't alias to anything anymorew
[5:54] <sney> here's a free software miner. http://ck.kolivas.org/apps/cgminer/README
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[5:54] <yehnan> jlf: I'm sorry. I though Bitcoin-Qt windows version will be the same as linux version.
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[5:58] <jlf> yehnan: at any rate, since you are interested in experimenting and fun, i recommend implementing your own miner, beginning with a careful study of http://crypto.stanford.edu/~xb/fc12/bitcoin.pdf and conducting further research as needed.
[5:59] <yehnan> jlf: thanks.
[5:59] <jlf> you're welcome. i'd be interested to hear about your progress!
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[6:59] <Tachyon`> ah, bitcoins
[6:59] <Tachyon`> someon else wanting to use pis to mine them?
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[7:33] <LLckfan> Is there a way to make a house smell better without openng windows?
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[7:35] <mumixam> start taking showers
[7:35] * ShorTie snickers
[7:37] <LLckfan> I do not smell
[7:38] <mumixam> you can lie to me but you cant lie to yourself
[7:39] <LLckfan> I amnot lying to myself
[7:40] <mumixam> i can smell you from here
[7:40] <LLckfan> whatever
[7:40] <mumixam> anyway why do you always join channels any ask questions unrelated to the topic?
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[7:41] <LLckfan> Excude the hell out of me for coming to YOUR channel
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[7:43] <mumixam> im sure im not the only one thats seen him join a channel and ask a random question
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[7:52] <Tachyon`> well, no, everyone in here just saw that...
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[8:07] <gordonDrogon> morning.
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[8:16] <djazz> hmm, my pi with raspbian wont boot, the ACT led has a steady light and the lest message is [ ok ] Starting periodic command scheduler: cron.
[8:16] <djazz> last*
[8:16] <ParkerR> Could be a corrupted SD card
[8:17] <djazz> it worked fine the other day :/
[8:17] <ParkerR> Are you overclocked/volted at all?
[8:17] <djazz> only to Medium
[8:17] <ParkerR> What is defined as "Medium" I don't know what distro you are using
[8:18] <djazz> 900MHz ARM, 333MHz core, 450MHz SDRAM, 2 overvolt
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[8:21] <djazz> any way to make boot more verbose?
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[8:24] <djazz> I'll reflash it..
[8:25] <scottstamp> I've reflashed my Pi like... twelve times this week, tweaking firmware.
[8:25] <scottstamp> Lol
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[8:26] <djazz> scottstamp: yeah this is my third or forth time this week
[8:26] <scottstamp> Related note, has anyone gotten projectM / any other Milkdrop app working with the GPU support?
[8:27] <scottstamp> djazz, Ouch.
[8:27] <scottstamp> What problem do you run into?
[8:27] <djazz> corrupt SD in one way or another
[8:27] <scottstamp> Ouch. Power supply?
[8:27] <djazz> sometimes data it's recoverable
[8:27] <djazz> is*
[8:27] <djazz> powered from usb3 port or 1A dedicated
[8:28] <djazz> tried turbo, almost instant corruption
[8:28] <scottstamp> Probably just a bad card.
[8:28] <djazz> Sandisk class 10 16GB
[8:28] <scottstamp> My old card used to act up on turbo and it was a class 10
[8:28] <scottstamp> Same here.
[8:28] <scottstamp> I got another SanDisk though and it works perfectly.
[8:28] <scottstamp> Silicon lottery I guess.
[8:29] <djazz> my webserver pi has a Transcend card, 124 days of uptime since last power outage
[8:30] <scottstamp> Haha it's weird isn't it? Sometimes cheap cards beat expensive ones.
[8:30] <scottstamp> Class 10 is actually a risky leap for the controller, if you have any dead blocks at all you get crippled.
[8:30] <djazz> i should maybe look into booting from USB
[8:30] <djazz> its stable and faster
[8:31] <scottstamp> BerryBoot worked quite well for me.
[8:31] <djazz> well, have rootfs on usb
[8:31] <scottstamp> But like I said, I've been haxorin' dat firmwares.
[8:31] <djazz> reflash successful!
[8:31] <scottstamp> quick!
[8:31] <djazz> lets not overclock this time
[8:31] <djazz> 7.8 MB/s
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[8:33] <scottstamp> What!?
[8:33] <scottstamp> I'm seeing like 2.6 MB/s
[8:33] <scottstamp> What are you using for a card reader?
[8:33] <djazz> the built in in my laptop to flash sd..
[8:33] <djazz> not on the pi ;)
[8:33] <scottstamp> :( and you have USB3 on your laptop?
[8:34] <djazz> yeah
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[8:34] <scottstamp> It's probably a USB3 SD reader
[8:34] <scottstamp> I only have a USB2
[8:34] <scottstamp> e
[8:34] <djazz> aha
[8:34] <scottstamp> *Even on my MBP
[8:34] <ParkerR> Egads
[8:37] <djazz> that may explain why Kingston cards don't work with recent ubuntu kernels on my laptop?
[8:37] <djazz> mmc error -110
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[9:23] <Pitel_IPEX> what exactly omxplayer's parameter -p (audio passthrough) does?
[9:25] <bacobart> it bitstreams the audio over hdmi to your tv/receiver leaving it untouched
[9:25] <bacobart> it is usefull if you have dolby or dts audio files, so you can have your hardware decode it
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[11:00] <Eren97> hi
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[11:00] <Eren97> is the standard rpi capable of running other dists?
[11:00] <Eren97> backtrack for example
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[11:05] <tig|> Eren97: only if they have a port for the correct version of ARM. I have seen people running Debian, Fedora, Arch and Gentoo (iirc) on here
[11:07] <tig|> but there isn't anything special on backtrack that I can think of which wouldn't be available or that your couldn't build on any other distro
[11:07] <tig|> unless they have any closed binaries on there
[11:08] <Eren97> hm
[11:11] <patagonicus> Eren97: Kali Linux seems to have an ARM port that is supported by the RPi, however without hardfloat support (so it may be a bit slower than other distros).
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[11:16] <Eren97> aw
[11:16] <Eren97> is it possible to use additional ram on rpi btw patagonicus ?
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[11:17] <tig|> you can't expand the ram on the pi, you can change the split between graphics memory and ram but that is it
[11:17] <Eren97> not much worth it i guess right?
[11:17] <tig|> well you could drop it down if you were running it headless
[11:18] <Eren97> ah
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[11:23] <Tachyon`> 32 is enough for most things if you don't have the camera
[11:23] <Tachyon`> which eats 128 like it or not
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[11:41] <Jck_True> Eren97: You can set up Swap :)
[11:41] <Jck_True> 64 seems needed if you want full HD h.264 decoding too
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[11:48] <Eren97> is the rpi capable of a wlan stick? in theory
[11:48] <Eren97> or can i somehow use mobile internet? xD
[11:48] <Eren97> with a sim card
[11:49] <patagonicus> WLAN is no problem, there are a lot of compatible USB sticks. SIM card may be possible, there are ones that are supported by Linux, however I do not know what the state is for the RPi.
[11:51] <Jck_True> WLAN is not an issue - I do recall seeing issues with 3G USB modems through....
[11:52] <Jck_True> (I only use my 3G Huwaii modem to send TXT messages)
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[12:07] <Eren97> i just imagine a camera for my room which sends my phone a pic all 5 mins
[12:07] <Eren97> imagined
[12:11] <gordonDrogon> I'd suspect that most of the issues were to do with power over the USB more than software.
[12:12] <gordonDrogon> I use a variety of 3G modems with other Linux boxes without any issues.. Only tried on in a Pi though.
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[12:19] <Eren97> ah
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[12:32] <bitnumus> hello, had anyone here used NFCPY with and i2c connected device?
[12:34] * gordonDrogon wonders what nfcpy is..
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[12:35] <gordonDrogon> ah. nfc copy.
[12:35] <gordonDrogon> nfc is completely broken and un-implementable, sadly.
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[12:38] <Jck_True> NFC is a mess
[12:39] <gordonDrogon> the idea is sound, but what happens when I have 4 NFC cards in my wallet ... which one does it pick...
[12:39] <Jck_True> (Not that I'm only saying that because I'm angry I accidentially bought NFC tags for an RFID reader...)
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[12:39] <Jck_True> gordonDrogon: NFC shouldn't work that far
[12:39] <gordonDrogon> Jck_True, true, but it does.
[12:39] <Jck_True> Yeah :P That's because you're holding it wrong ;)
[12:40] <Jck_True> Makes it easy for the hacker through
[12:40] <Jck_True> He can get all 4 cards in one pass
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[12:42] <gordonDrogon> theres an article on the BBC about a reader picking up a card in someone pocket rather than the one they're holding - let me see if I can find it.
[12:42] <gordonDrogon> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-22545804
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[12:42] <tig|> yeah I really don't like it for payment systems
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[12:43] <Jck_True> And our brand new 140 million £ transportation system - doesn't even wanna read my RFID card through 5mm of leather in my wallet
[12:43] <tig|> I have used it with tags on my phone and tablet though
[12:45] <gordonDrogon> if I'm going to have to take a card out of my tinfoil shielded wallet, I might as well stick to C&P.
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[12:46] <gordonDrogon> Hm. have to make ice cream later today. love making ice cream. not at all Pi related though!!!
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[12:46] <Jck_True> Raspberry icecream - Could be nice I think
[12:47] <gordonDrogon> Wish I had some Liquid N2 though. buying sold CO2 really expensive now.
[12:47] <gordonDrogon> *solid
[12:47] <Jck_True> gordonDrogon: What about a fire extinghuser?
[12:47] <gordonDrogon> Raspberrys tend to lose flavour and colour when frozen though - like strawberries.
[12:48] <gordonDrogon> Jck_True, they're usually gas for CO2, aren't they?
[12:48] <chris_99> that's liquid Jck_True, not cold enough
[12:48] <Jck_True> How quick you wanna make the icecream?
[12:48] <Pitel_IPEX> bacobart: so, If I used it, and has my pi directly connected to my tv via hdmi, and I heard the sound, it means the TV decoded it?
[12:48] <gordonDrogon> actually I have plenty of time - it's not for Sunday.
[12:50] <PfhorSlayer> Does anyone know which bit in the interrupt registers gets set when a DMA interrupt is signalled?
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[12:55] <gordonDrogon> I have a little battery operated churning thing that goes into the freezer and works really well!
[12:55] <bitnumus> woops back
[12:55] <bitnumus> gordonDrogon, nfcpy is a python library for NFC
[12:56] <tig|> gordonDrogon: doesn't the cold mess with the battery chemistry?
[12:57] <bitnumus> i have my module being found using libnfc
[12:57] <bitnumus> trying to get nfcpy to work now, but not sure of the format of the --device switch
[12:57] <bitnumus> just hoping someone else had also tried :)
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[13:26] <bosnjak> hi
[13:26] <Habba> hi
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[13:26] <Habba> So, what are you guys doing with your pi?
[13:27] <bosnjak> has there been any progress in finding out why rpi is corrupting compactflash? I mount it as readonly, but many times it corrupts when i plug/unplug it from power supply...
[13:27] <mentar> Habba, about to control an industrial robot arm with it :P
[13:27] <bosnjak> Habba: some voice recognition :)
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[13:28] <Habba> Cool!
[13:28] <ShorTie> do you use 'shutdown now -h' before unplugging ??
[13:28] <Habba> I'm doing a uni project, we have to build a autonomous zeppelin
[13:28] <gordonDrogon> tig|, it uses photo lithiums - they seem ok down to -20...
[13:29] <gordonDrogon> bosnjak, the "usual" suspects are bad PSU, overclocking and cheap SD cards. (I presume you mean SD rather than CF cards?)
[13:32] <bosnjak> gordonDrogon: no, i mean really CF card
[13:32] <chithead> are you using a usb card reader for cf? maybe that is bad
[13:32] <bosnjak> gordonDrogon: the PSU is a standard adapter that came with RPI. There is no overclocking.
[13:32] <chithead> most distros now overclock the rpi by default
[13:33] <bosnjak> chithead: what do you mean, on RPI? No, i plug it directly into RPI
[13:33] <chris_99> the Pi doesn't have compact flash
[13:33] <bosnjak> chithead: I installed archlinux..
[13:33] <chithead> the pi only supports sd cards, not cf
[13:33] <bosnjak> chithead: erm, then i got it wrong all the time... :( ok, then its an SD card, sorry
[13:34] <chithead> http://elinux.org/RPi_SD_cards here you will find a list of cards known to have problems with the pi
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[13:39] <bosnjak> chithead: my card is Transcend 8Gb SDHC - in that table it says "OK". But the exact model is not the same...
[13:39] <bosnjak> chithead: there is no exact model there
[13:41] <bosnjak> chithead: also, how can i know if my RPI is overclocked by default?
[13:41] <bosnjak> chithead: cat /proc/cpuinfo ?
[13:42] <chithead> /boot/config.txt
[13:42] <chithead> http://elinux.org/RPiconfig#Overclocking_options
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[13:44] <bosnjak> chithead: ok, thank you, i will check this
[13:44] <bosnjak> chithead: and if not oc-ed, what are my options? Buy another SD from the list?
[13:44] <chithead> try a different power supply
[13:45] <bosnjak> chithead: the power supply is the one provided when i bougth RPI
[13:45] <bosnjak> chithead: but i could try a better one
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[13:48] <kai> and currently trying to figure out how to fake sensor access for development
[13:50] <Habba> what do you mean with sensor access?
[13:50] <bosnjak> chithead: is it possible that /boot/config.txt does not exist?
[13:51] <chithead> dunno where arch puts their config.txt, but it must exist somewhere
[13:52] <patagonicus> You don't *need* a config.txt as far as I know, but if it isn't there a cmdline.txt probably is.
[13:52] <ShorTie> a resistor maybe kai
[13:52] <bosnjak> ok, checking
[13:52] <ShorTie> or pot if you want to adjust it
[13:54] <kai> ShorTie: not quite sure how to fake a digital sensor with a resistor. no, I'll actually be faking the access to /sys/bus/w1/devices instead, I think
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[14:03] <flufmnstr> http://imgur.com/a/wTEJg currently installing these
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[14:05] <Jck_True> flufmnstr: An elevator controlled by a RaspberryPi? ... Mind telling me what building that is in so I can avoid it?
[14:06] <flufmnstr> not a real elevator
[14:06] <flufmnstr> haunted house
[14:06] <flufmnstr> its a floor drop rig
[14:06] <Jck_True> Feel alot safer suddenly ;)
[14:06] <flufmnstr> steal frame sitting on 4 semi truck airbacks with quick dump valves
[14:06] <flufmnstr> totally safe ;)
[14:06] <flufmnstr> just stay away from the floor shaker
[14:07] <flufmnstr> itll eat you alive and not even stutter
[14:07] <Jck_True> :| Lovely
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[14:08] <flufmnstr> i dont remember the specs on the motor, but its on its own circuit. otherwise it draws so much current it resets amplifiers and audio devices
[14:08] <flufmnstr> of course it doesnt help we flip it on and off a lot durring the show
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[14:14] <Habba> Sounds dangerous :p
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[14:39] <Sonny_Jim> Here's a simple one
[14:39] <Sonny_Jim> if (a++ == b) and (++a == b)
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[14:39] <Sonny_Jim> In the first example, it compares a to b *before* incrementing a, is that correct?
[14:40] <Habba> I think so yeah
[14:40] <Habba> what language?
[14:40] <Sonny_Jim> C
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[14:42] <Habba> yeah it should be how you said it
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[14:43] <Sonny_Jim> Cool, thanks
[14:43] <Sonny_Jim> Trying to optimise some code
[14:44] <mgottschlag> Sonny_Jim: uh, what kind of optimizations?
[14:45] <Sonny_Jim> have a look:
[14:45] <Sonny_Jim> https://github.com/SonnyJim/snesbot/blob/master/snesbot.c
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[14:45] <Sonny_Jim> 'live' input works, but recorded input can lag behind by up to 6-7 latches
[14:46] <Sonny_Jim> I was reading directly from the input file using fread, but I switch to using a memory buffer which helped a bit
[14:46] <mgottschlag> hm, you certainly want a large input buffer, and only read from that
[14:46] <Sonny_Jim> I think my next target is to try and see if I can't make write_joystick_gpio () work a bit faster
[14:46] <mgottschlag> you don't have enough free time for anything else, yeah
[14:46] <mgottschlag> that memcpy looks as if you shouldn't need it btw
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[14:47] <mgottschlag> just make write_joystick_gpio work directly on the pointers
[14:47] <Sonny_Jim> Right
[14:47] <mgottschlag> although that shouldn't be any problem
[14:47] <Sonny_Jim> Makes sense
[14:47] <Sonny_Jim> memcpy should be pretty swift
[14:47] <mgottschlag> actually, just noticed that the memcpy isn't in the critical parts
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[14:48] <Sonny_Jim> I'm wondering if storing the whole of the js_event struct is the best way, as it also has the time which the button is pressed, which I store anyway with latch_counter
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[14:48] <mgottschlag> btw, what does wiringPiSetup() do? does that initialize access via direct memory access, or via the kernel api?
[14:48] <Bozza> Can java class files be executed on the pi?
[14:49] <Sonny_Jim> mgottschlag: Yes, it comes as part of gordonDrogons library
[14:49] <mgottschlag> Sonny_Jim: the best case would be if you compressed all the data into a bit field
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[14:49] <mgottschlag> yeah, I just wondered which of the ways wiringPi can initialize gpio that was
[14:49] <Sonny_Jim> Yeah, I'm not too good with bit fields but I think that's the next thing to try
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[14:49] <Sonny_Jim> I'm not sure if I'm honest
[14:49] <kai> Sonny_Jim: actually both (a++ == b) and (++a == b) are poor style
[14:49] <mgottschlag> you shouldn't need much more than 16 bits per event then
[14:50] <kai> optimizations aside
[14:50] <mgottschlag> Sonny_Jim: also, both are completely identical, performance-wise
[14:50] <mgottschlag> at least with modern compilers and proper compiling flags
[14:50] <Habba> yes
[14:50] <Sonny_Jim> I was just checking to make sure filepos_end and filepos would work as I thought they would
[14:50] <Sonny_Jim> otherwise I would miss the last event
[14:51] <Bozza> Guy can I launch java applets?
[14:51] <Sonny_Jim> I'm guessing it's 'faster' to do the increment and compare in one statement
[14:51] <Sonny_Jim> ie:
[14:51] <Bozza> Or do I need to to install java for it ???
[14:52] <Sonny_Jim> Have you tried googling java raspberry pi?
[14:52] <Sonny_Jim> if (filepos++ == filepos_end) vs filepos++; if (filepos == filepos_end)
[14:52] <kai> Sonny_Jim: have you looked at the assembly produced by this?
[14:52] <Sonny_Jim> I'm not great at that sort of thing, unfortunately
[14:53] <Habba> Question: If I want to install the new release by Oracle
[14:53] <kai> apart from being two different statements, the performace should be the same
[14:53] <Habba> Do I have to delete the OpenJDK release first?
[14:55] <mgottschlag> Sonny_Jim: expect that every single line is split by the compiler into its different operations, and those operations are completely reordered before the executable is created
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[14:55] <kai> Sonny_Jim: so if we were talking about if (++filepos == filepos_end) vs. filepos++; if(filepos == filepos_end), I'd very much expect the same assembly
[14:55] <mgottschlag> so a++ and ++a basically is the same operation, and the compiler would have made that change itself
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[14:56] <Sonny_Jim> Sure
[14:56] <Bozza> Sonny_Jim: ty I am not sure if java comes on Debian by default or if something else is causing the java applet not to load
[14:56] <Sonny_Jim> I think you are right, my time would be better spent converting the js_event and latch counter into a bitfield so I can make write_joystick_gpio less ugly
[14:57] <Sonny_Jim> Another small question I have is about the udelay
[14:57] <Sonny_Jim> I need to wait for the correct latch and I'm positive this is an bass-ackward way of doing it
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[14:58] <Sonny_Jim> Bozza: I have no idea about java, sorry.
[14:58] <Bozza> No worries
[14:58] <mgottschlag> Sonny_Jim: btw, one general tip about optimization: the way your data is placed in memory is essential, because the bottleneck in many systems is the memory interface
[14:58] <mgottschlag> if you have little data, and it is grouped together, the caches will work better to improve memory throughput
[14:58] <Sonny_Jim> It should be powers of 2, so I think I've got that bit right
[14:59] <Sonny_Jim> js_event is 16bytes, latch_counter should be 2 bytes if my head is working correctly
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[14:59] <mgottschlag> that doesn't matter much for data which is read/written in a linear fashion
[15:00] <mgottschlag> the reason for the alignment is that one element is only within *one* cache line, but for linear reads, the next cache line should be read as early as possible anyways
[15:00] <Sonny_Jim> Also, with the memcpy statement, I'm guessing the compiler will precalculate the sizeofs?
[15:00] <Sonny_Jim> ie it won't be doing it at runttime
[15:00] <mgottschlag> yes
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[15:02] <Sonny_Jim> Cool, so can you think of a way of waiting for the correct latch that's a better method than I'm doing?
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[15:03] <Sonny_Jim> while ((latch_counter < playback_latch) etc
[15:03] <mgottschlag> idk, looks good to me
[15:04] <bosnjak> could it be that rpi wont boot at one, but it needs few powecycles to boot=
[15:04] <mgottschlag> I can't think of any better way than doing everything directly from the interrupt handler
[15:04] <mgottschlag> *any better way except
[15:05] <mgottschlag> actually, doing it directly from the interrupt handler should be pretty simple, so try it
[15:05] <mgottschlag> then you can just have some long sleep call instead of udelay(0), that might lower cpu utilization and therefore decrease delays
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[15:06] <mgottschlag> (high cpu utilization means that the kernel might run more often at times where it is inconvenient)
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[15:11] <Davespice> afternoon folks
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[15:12] <Davespice> anyone know if its possible to disable the red led on the camera board when you record?
[15:12] <mgottschlag> desolder it :)
[15:12] <IT_Sean> ^ that
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[15:14] <Davespice> hah! :)
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[15:24] <Sonny_Jim> Stoopid internet
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[15:24] <Sonny_Jim> mgottschlag: Aha, I'm not sure why didn't think of putting it all in the interrupt handler, I'll give that a whirl
[15:25] <Sonny_Jim> Thanks for taking the time to look at my code
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[16:12] <Sonny_Jim> Hmm
[16:12] <Sonny_Jim> Changing this to be interrupt driven is going to be more complicated than I initially thought
[16:12] <Sonny_Jim> As the evdev system is event driven and more than one button can be pressed during a latch
[16:13] <Sonny_Jim> So it looks like I'll need to convert it to a bitfield anyway
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[16:18] <napnap> Hi all, can you confirm that Kinect can't run on raspberry pi because kinect(or free driver) need OpenGL GLX ?
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[16:19] <Sonny_Jim> There's no openGL on the Pi, so if it's one of the requirements....
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[16:20] <Sonny_Jim> Isn't Kinect just an input system though?
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[16:26] <napnap> Sonny_Jim, yeah right... I think it's the software which retrieve kinect data (video) which needs OpenGL...
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[16:29] <Sonny_Jim> Weird
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[16:31] <napnap> Sonny_Jim, perhaps this software can be avoided, I haven"t read all things...I came here in the case if someone had already make it. :-)
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[16:31] <Sonny_Jim> oops
[16:32] <Sonny_Jim> Isn't OpenGL all about writing graphics ie output?
[16:33] <napnap> Sonny_Jim, yeah according to Openkinect OpenGl is needed for glview sample..so...
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[16:36] <napnap> unfortunatly is not the only problem..https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/openkinect/raspberry$20pi/openkinect/AoENn06fYhU/JHCZIK2r_3wJ
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[16:51] <Lerg> Hello. I want to compile a demo program that uses rpi's h264 encoding capabilities. It says it need hello_pi source, I found it on github. I am running archlinux, btw. Is it ok to replace entire firmware? just by copying it into the root.
[16:51] <Lerg> and why is it so big - 2GB.
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[17:18] <napnap> Lerg, it sounds strange ...Why replace your firmware if your app just need hello_* source ?
[17:19] <Lerg> I am afraid it won't be compatible with older firware that I have in my distro
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[17:22] <ShorTie> does not pacman have a way to update the firmware ??
[17:23] <steve_rox> nah he just eats dot things and monsters when they turn blue
[17:23] <ShorTie> pacman -Syu system upgrade
[17:23] <ShorTie> or sumfin
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[17:24] <Lerg> I'll try
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[17:50] <davor> I'm thinking of making an electrostatic fluid accelerator
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[17:54] <j4jackj> Hallo all
[17:55] <obihann> ello ello
[17:55] <obihann> ello ello
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[17:56] <j4jackj> That was spammy.
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[17:59] * IT_Sean sees no spam
[18:00] <obihann> how was saying hello spammy?
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[18:04] <Davespice> I think the correct response is 'what do we 'ave 'ere then?' in a deep Policeman type voice :)
[18:04] <scottstamp> I will hug someone if they can point me in the direction of a god damn music visualizer that works on this Broadcom chip.
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[18:17] <Davespice> scottstamp: I know of a couple that run in Xbmc, openelec etc
[18:18] <Davespice> but they're not that visually impressive
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[18:18] <Sonny_Jim> Hmm
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[18:20] <Sonny_Jim> Is there any reason why you would use SCHED_FIFO over SCHED_RR?
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[18:21] <scottstamp> Davespice, I know they're working in XMBC and OpenELEC, but I can't strip the components of XMBC away from RasBMC
[18:22] <scottstamp> Trust me, I've tried.
[18:22] <scottstamp> I'm working on porting the GL Libraries from XMBC into Rasbpain
[18:22] <scottstamp> *Raspbian
[18:22] <Davespice> oh okay, so you want it in native Raspbian or something?
[18:22] <scottstamp> Yeah.
[18:22] <tig|> are there any visualisation screensavers?
[18:23] <scottstamp> None that are OpenGL-enhanced.
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[18:24] <scottstamp> Like I can get shaders and textures running, I just can't compile any visualizers like projectM
[18:24] * scottstamp is slowly going insane.
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[18:39] <scottstamp> FUCK YEAH! :D
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[18:39] <scottstamp> I got it to compile.
[18:39] * scottstamp does happy dance
[18:40] <atouk> careful, channel is rated G
[18:40] * scottstamp apologizes. Kids in school, listen to your teacher, not the guy swearing on IRC
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[18:41] <scottstamp> I've just been hacking away at this for like four days
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[18:42] <scottstamp> Hehehehe. I'm so excited. All I'm doing to test is launching qmlviewer but I'm literally grinning in anticipation.
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[18:47] <Sonny_Jim> scottstamp: Don't keep us in suspenders, how did you get on?
[18:48] <scottstamp> Not well. :(
[18:48] <scottstamp> It's still bugged out.
[18:48] <scottstamp> I think it's an X-related problem though.
[18:49] <scottstamp> Yeah looks like it's just X being a tool.
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[18:49] <scottstamp> Rebooting.
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[18:51] <scottstamp> still no go. :(
[18:51] <matthias_arch> morning, i installed python2 and python3 on my raspberry pi. now i want to install flask in python3 but it does not work. flask in python2 works fine. if i want to run my flask application in python3 i get the following error: http://pastebin.com/i1RXrvNi
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[18:54] <scottstamp> That looks like an issue with Flask's dependency, werkzeug, than Flask or the RPi
[18:54] <scottstamp> You could try asking in #python
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[18:54] <scottstamp> I don't know how compatible werkzeug is.
[18:55] <scottstamp> The syntax error would suggest python3 isn't complete on your system, as u'<p>%s</p>' should be valid syntax.
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[18:56] <scottstamp> You could manually edit /usr/local/lib/python3.2/dist-packages/werkzeug/exceptions.py, and replace any instances with that syntax as return ""
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[19:08] <Pitel> http://pastebin.com/uTJTWL3j any idea why I can't mount my samba share?
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[19:13] <scottstamp> Are there any native components replacing /opt/vc/include/interface/vmcs_host/linux/ ?
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[19:27] <dddh> yo
[19:27] <dddh> http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/do-it-yourself/galileo-maker-quark-board.html
[19:28] <dddh> who already ordered one?
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[19:33] <Encrypt> dddh, Where did they find the concept? =D
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[19:33] <Encrypt> I'm really wondering...
[19:34] <Encrypt> Oh wait...
[19:34] <Encrypt> A 32 bits processor!
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[19:35] <jonascj> Hi all. If I write the debian wheezy image to and sdcard and boot the pi - do I need to take any actions before it boots into the debian system (e.g. choosing username or the like)? The reason I ask is that I have a Pi I really need to use but I have no monitor. So I cannot make any setup which requires a monitor.
[19:35] <jonascj> So I was hoping that wheezy out of the box had ssh setup, a user defined etc.
[19:35] <jonascj> Does anyone know?
[19:36] <jonascj> *sorry for the last one - I wasn't trying to sound important, in a hurry or the like. It just slipped out :)
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[19:38] <dddh> Encrypt: 400MHz Quark SoC
[19:39] <matthias_arch> but we can start developing from now on, because i got it running with python3 on my arch machine
[19:39] <matthias_arch> morning, i installed python2 and python3 on my raspberry pi. now i want to install flask in python3 but it does not work. flask in python2 works fine. if i want to run my flask application in python3 i get the following error: http://pastebin.com/i1RXrvNi
[19:40] <Encrypt> jonascj, Raspbian has SSH enabled by default
[19:42] <jonascj> Encrypt: Raspbian, yes, that is what it is called. And will it immediately (without user interaction) boot to a usable state?
[19:42] <Encrypt> Normally yes.
[19:42] <jonascj> * Greate first time raspberry experience - having no screen :P
[19:43] <Encrypt> DOn't worry :p
[19:43] <Encrypt> I'm running mail, web, files... servers on the RPi without any screen, through SSH :p
[19:43] <jonascj> I won't - I'm setting a DHCP up on my laptop and then the pi will hopefully ask for an ip
[19:43] <ShadowJK> jonascj; I did not have to take any action. It booted up with sshd server running. user pi password raspberry.
[19:44] <jonascj> Encrypt: Normally it is just nice to have a screen to verify the ssh connection after installing an os - before going headless :)
[19:44] <Encrypt> Ya
[19:44] <ShadowJK> Yes it does dhcp by default
[19:44] <Encrypt> Don't you have a TV and HDMI cable?
[19:44] <Encrypt> That's what I did to set it first (I believe the same thing as you :p)
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[19:46] <ShadowJK> I had to tweak config params before I got any output on hdmi anyways.. which I did mostly out of curiosity a week after first getting rpi, heh.
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[19:48] <jonascj> cool - I'll go right ahead and setup that dhcp
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[20:14] <jonascj> Should the pi boot as soon as it is powered?
[20:14] <chris_99> yup :)
[20:14] <patagonicus> jonascj: Yes, if it has a properly prepared SD card inserted.
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[20:19] <jonascj> Is it configured to request an ip from dhcp or is it configured with static ip to begin with?
[20:19] <patagonicus> Depends on the distribution, most do DHCP (Raspbian for example)
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[20:20] <andreiiar> Hello.
[20:20] <andreiiar> This is dog.
[20:20] <jonascj> It's raspbian I'm trying. Do you know about the led indicators. I get solid red light from PWR and a short green flash when I plug in power
[20:20] <andreiiar> Thank god my ban is lifted.
[20:21] <andreiiar> That means you are not ok.
[20:21] <andreiiar> Gree is ok
[20:21] <andreiiar> YOu are only ok for a flash
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[20:21] <patagonicus> jonascj: Sounds a bit wrong. Red is good (just power, doesn't say much), the green one you see is SD card access, that should be blinking for a while. The other three are network.
[20:22] <jonascj> so maybe it's the sd card. I'll try to recreate it
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[20:23] <andreiiar> I had problems with network debian install
[20:24] <jonascj> I'm not hoping to do a network install. I'm hoping to prepare the sd-card such that when it boots it will make a dhcp request for an IP and then I can do ssh
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[20:24] <andreiiar> Ok.
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[20:27] <jonascj> andreiiar: but thanks anyway
[20:27] <andreiiar> good luck my first computer was a felix hc-91
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[20:39] <jonascj> so the green ACT light should flash and indicate sd-card access?
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[20:40] <andreiiar> It shuld stay on
[20:40] <andreiiar> As far as my rpi
[20:41] <andreiiar> No wait
[20:41] <andreiiar> I dont know
[20:41] <andreiiar> It shuld light at boot to know its reading
[20:41] <andreiiar> SOmething like that
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[20:42] <andreiiar> OMG OK I WILL REBOOT MY RPI JESUS!
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[20:42] <jonascj> okay - I get one short green flash and the just red PWR for power.
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[20:43] <andreiiar> That is not good it shuld flash as you load
[20:43] <jonascj> I'm sorry, I do not get what you are saying. I'm not hoping you are rebooting your pi unnecessarily for my sake.
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[20:44] <jonascj> Okay - I'll see if I can verify the sd-card somehow.
[20:44] <andreiiar> I mean as the OS loads the ok green led shuld flash
[20:44] <andreiiar> You have no monitor?
[20:45] <patagonicus> jonascj: Are you using a Linux/Mac to flash the card? If so you could take a look at it from there. No experience with Windows, but it should be somehow possible there too.
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[20:46] <jonascj> I'm using linux
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[20:47] <patagonicus> Well, start with an fdisk -l /dev/sd? first (with whatever your SD card is called)
[20:48] <patagonicus> Should list two partitions, one as FAT, one Linux.
[20:48] <jonascj> andreiiar: Not right now - but of course I'll get one during one of the next days if I cannot get it to work without
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[20:48] <andreiiar> I used win32diskimager. I hate linux
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[20:49] <andreiiar> But still I am drawn to it.
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[20:49] <jonascj> andreiiar: Once you get into it you cannot go back to windows :)
[20:49] <andreiiar> I can. All my games are there.
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[20:50] <andreiiar> And I have my raspberry to learn on it.
[20:50] <jonascj> patagonicus: My sdcard is called mmblk0 and it lists a "w95 fat32 (lba)" partition and a "Linux" partition
[20:50] <jonascj> patagonicus: called "/dev/mmblk0p1" and "/dev/mmblk0p2"
[20:51] <patagonicus> jonascj: Hmm, then it should have installed correctly. What do you use as a power supply? Maybe it does not provide enough power.
[20:51] <jonascj> I was using my laptop, but I'll try a smart phone usb charger if that is better
[20:52] <j4jackj> bonk
[20:52] <andreiiar> I recall it neets around 0.7 amper rihgt/
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[20:53] <patagonicus> My laptop works fine for powering RPis, however a tower I tried did not. The USB spec only gurantees 500mA or so for USB2 and that's not enough for a Pi (but many devices provide more than that)
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[20:54] <jonascj> The HTC wall-plug to USB gives the same result. One green flash and then just red PWR
[20:55] <andreiiar> I guess that means it's not loading the OS. I would try another method of install.
[20:55] <TM26> Hey , i have to if i want , to overclock the raspberrypi over ssh client or i can do it on firsttome setup ???
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[20:55] <jonascj> I guess I'll try another sd card as the first thing
[20:56] <andreiiar> I would use another method first.
[20:56] <j4jackj> TM26: you can use the /boot/ config files...
[20:56] <andreiiar> But that;s just because you cant find SD cards thrown around the house.
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[20:57] <TM26> But also can do it on first set up right ???? j4jackj
[20:57] <TM26> Is yje easiest way !?
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[20:58] <TM26> *the
[20:58] <j4jackj> TM26: please learn English. Bye.
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[20:59] <j4jackj> You still don't know English.
[20:59] <TM26> You also can or try to speak another lenguage
[20:59] <andreiiar> God people are mean.
[20:59] <TM26> Is not easy !
[20:59] <j4jackj> Please speak grammatically correct English. I do not know any other languages.
[20:59] <TM26> Just try !!
[20:59] <j4jackj> TM26: please, give me keywords. 'Overclock' 'Raspberry Pi' is all I got.
[21:00] <j4jackj> I DO NOT SPEAK ANYTHING OTHER THAN ENGLISH, dumarse.
[21:00] <patagonicus> TM26: I think the tool that is run on first setup is called raspi-config, just run that again with "sudo raspi-config" to get the menu. Works over SSH too.
[21:00] <andreiiar> DA CAPSLOCK STII A VORBI CACATULE CE TE DAI MARE CU NATIA TA????
[21:01] <j4jackj> andreiiar: english please
[21:02] <andreiiar> I am starting to not like you at all jackforjack4. I didn;t like you before just because you had a quirky name. jayforjay_ack_jay
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[21:03] <andreiiar> But know I don like you YOU!
[21:03] <andreiiar> And I studied english and spanish, I speak romanian as my first language.
[21:04] <TM26> Yo tambien hablo español y un poco de ingles , y no encuentro ayuda aqui !!
[21:04] <j4jackj> andreiiar: I'd recommend coming to Canada to see English speakers first hand.
[21:04] <andreiiar> And I've been to chech republic, russia, france, turkey and knew how to ask for a bottle of beer, say thanks and goodbye. Oh not to mention china.
[21:04] <j4jackj> TM26: maybe come to Canada?
[21:04] <atouk> well that proves it. t4jack is too rude to be a canadian
[21:05] <j4jackj> atouk: Well I am British :)
[21:05] <andreiiar> british people are know te be arses
[21:05] <j4jackj> atouk: also, spell my name right
[21:05] <andreiiar> I am sorry for your loss.
[21:05] <TM26> I live in mexico !!! You dont want us there !!!!
[21:05] <j4jackj> andreiiar: as are certain people who don't know English.
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[21:06] <j4jackj> TM26: umm, this here is a great holiday destination if you like skiing
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[21:07] <TM26> j4jackj my english is bad i know , but i try my best ... :(
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[21:08] <j4jackj> TM26: that's actually the best I've seen from you. You may want to come to ##coffeeclub for a few hours. (It's not my channel)
[21:09] <TM26> j4jackj ok thanks !!!
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[21:25] <davor> I need some help
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[21:29] <davor> I wired this up in order to make a simple ADC https://www.dropbox.com/s/3aq4zoaxxfrul0x/Untitled.png
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[21:32] <davor> the script needs to set the IO pin to output, 0v, to drain the cap, set the pin to input mode and log the time, and then wait until the pin rises to a logical 1, log the time again and output the difference. the interval should last longer if the variable resistor's value is higher. here's a prototype of the script http://ix.io/8lb/python3
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[21:34] <davor> it works for a while and then stops with this error: RuntimeError: Error #3 waiting for edge
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[22:08] <Bozza> Anybody got their cross compiler handy?
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[22:14] <davor> ah, it was a bug. should work when I update
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[22:14] <davor> I wonder why lower resistance for R1 doesn't work though
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[22:17] <pksato> davor: that is RC time with this lower resistance? and, that is a time between set from output to input?
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[22:19] <davor> I'm measuring how long it takes for the pin to go from a logical 0 to a logical 1 once I set it to input
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[22:19] <davor> because that time in this circuit should only depend on the value of the variable resistor
[22:20] <davor> the script just doesn't output anything if I use 4k or 6k for instance. I think the input pin reaches a logical 1 before the Pi has time to set it to input
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[22:21] <davor> that is, that line goes to a 1 before the script manages to configure the Pi to detect it, so it can't detect a raising edge because it's already risen to 1 pksato
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[22:24] <Bozza> Anybody for a cross compiler handy?
[22:24] <Bozza> got*
[22:24] <davor> not me Bozza, sorry. why not use the Pi?
[22:24] <pksato> T=RC, R=10000 C=1x10^-6, T=10ms. time to voltage above C get 0.632% of VCC.
[22:24] <Bozza> davor: I am trying to compi
[22:24] <Bozza> compi
[22:25] <Bozza> Sry for typos
[22:25] <Bozza> Trying to compile on my ipad
[22:25] <Bozza> But it keeps giving me an error
[22:25] <Bozza> I figured that if someone who already knows how to cross compile can give a try at compiling the file for me
[22:26] <pksato> if VCC is 3v3, this voltage is 2.1V. I dont know voltage transition of L to H rpi GPIO.
[22:27] <davor> hmm, it appears I need that piece of information
[22:27] <davor> makes sense pksato, thanks. I'll try to work something out
[22:27] <davor> in a bit, gotta do something first
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[22:30] <pksato> "The input gate detects whether the input voltage level is low or high by comparing it to a threshold voltage. Normally the voltage threshold is about 1.8V, but it isn't guaranteed; it can be anywhere between the maximum input low and minimum input high, that is, between about 0.8 and 2.0V. "
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[22:32] <davor> hmm
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[22:32] <davor> I'll stick with 10k then I guess haha
[22:33] <davor> because I have no idea how to make this more precise
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[22:33] <davor> currently the time is between about 5 for lowest to 9 for highest pot value
[22:33] <davor> 5-9 ms that is
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[22:35] <plugwash> While it's a neat trick I doubt it will ever be very precise
[22:35] <plugwash> and it may well need recalibrating for each new Pi you use it on
[22:36] <andreiiar> wHY DO YOU GUYISE KNOW SO MUCH THAN ME?
[22:37] <therion23> come to think of it, did anyone actually write a good book that can teach you electronics based on the Pi as the main tool?
[22:37] <rikkib> AGE
[22:38] <andreiiar> SEX
[22:38] <rikkib> IQ
[22:38] <davor> plugwash, that's true. it's only temporary, and I only have 1 Pi hehe
[22:38] <davor> and only for personal use
[22:38] <davor> I've ordered an MCP3208 already
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[22:44] <SpeedEvil> http://rockblock.rock7mobile.com/?page_id=103
[22:44] <SpeedEvil> Interesting.
[22:44] <SpeedEvil> Satellite modem - 159 quid.
[22:45] <SpeedEvil> (data is 20 quid for 10K though
[22:45] <Bozza> 10K.
[22:45] <Bozza> ?
[22:46] <SpeedEvil> yes
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[22:46] <Bozza> 10kilobytes?
[22:46] <Bozza> Kilobits?
[22:46] <Bozza> Jiggawatts?
[22:46] <SpeedEvil> This is very much for apps where 50 bytes every couple of days is just fine.
[22:46] <Bozza> Wow that's insane
[22:46] <SpeedEvil> But you might not have mobile service.
[22:47] <Bozza> I guess if you're in some desert
[22:47] <andreiiar> {:>
[22:47] <Bozza> It should be ok
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