#raspberrypi IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2013-10-05

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[0:28] <scottstamp> Has anyone tried one of these with the Pi? My former boss used to use one, it's basically a USB graphics card. I have no idea what chipset it uses. http://www.evga.com/uvplus/
[0:30] <therion23> the fact that the "how to buy" section is empty makes me a little wary
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[0:31] <scottstamp> therion23, they're sketchy to find, we have a supplier that has them in spades though.
[0:31] <scottstamp> Retail is $60 I think?
[0:32] <scottstamp> Here's the latest model on NCIX. http://ncix.ca/products/?sku=72900&vpn=100-U3-UV39-KR&manufacture=eVGA&promoid=1360
[0:32] <therion23> that's not too bad
[0:32] <scottstamp> hmm. "The EVGA 100-U3-UV39-KR UV features no onboard GPU.
[0:32] <scottstamp> "
[0:32] <scottstamp> So I'm not sure.
[0:32] <therion23> to me it looks like a converter box
[0:32] <scottstamp> I know we've chained six displays with on-board graphics without stutter.
[0:32] <j4jackj> Not good.
[0:32] <therion23> already five years ago they started making 7" USB displays
[0:33] * scottstamp wants
[0:33] <scottstamp> :P
[0:33] * j4jackj wants to die
[0:33] <therion23> and they cost like twice that
[0:33] <scottstamp> Jesus.
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[3:57] <herdingcat> hi, I fetched 3.6 kernel source but seems I could get new rev by git pull: http://fpaste.org/44447/38093819/
[3:57] <herdingcat> how do I fix that?
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[3:59] <j4jackj> herdingcat: meh. Just get 3.11 and all's cool
[4:00] <herdingcat> j4jackj, I'm using 3.6 :)
[4:00] <herdingcat> j4jackj, so any way I can get new rev?
[4:01] <j4jackj> 3.6 is out of date AFAIK
[4:02] <herdingcat> j4jackj, so what I shall use for kernel?
[4:02] <j4jackj> Linux 3.11.something
[4:03] <herdingcat> j4jackj, and for firmware I shall use the master branch, right?
[4:04] <herdingcat> j4jackj, but I think we should use newer fw codes, right? the newer fw codes only work with 3.6 kernel.
[4:04] <j4jackj> Ah what?
[4:05] <herdingcat> rpi newer firmware codes only work w/ 3.6 kernel
[4:05] <herdingcat> that's why I wanna download 3.6 kernel for use.
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[4:09] <j4jackj> Oh.
[4:09] <j4jackj> Take that then.
[4:09] <herdingcat> but I cannot get new rev by git pull
[4:09] <j4jackj> Just download it from the kernel.org
[4:10] <herdingcat> O_o
[4:10] <herdingcat> are you sure we are talking the same thing?
[4:10] <j4jackj> ?!?!?!
[4:10] <herdingcat> how can I download the kernel from kernel.org? I need to patch A LOT
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[4:19] <herdingcat> j4jackj, it's odd, if I clone linux.git from rpi, it's 3.6 already.
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[4:52] <CavPi> Has anyone used the 1.8" TFT from Adafruit?
[4:52] <CavPi> Or have any opinions on it?
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[6:48] <andreiiar> Gooooood morning everyone. This is a fine day I may say.
[6:48] <andreiiar> So.
[6:49] <ShorTie> glad to see your so chipper
[6:49] <andreiiar> Where is config that makes my cli so colored? I want to add it to my centos box too.
[6:49] <XpineX> have a look at .bashrc
[6:49] <ShorTie> you talking about .bashrc
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[6:50] <ShorTie> i like Gentoo's
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[9:35] <gordonDrogon> morning.
[9:35] <ShorTie> good morning
[9:36] <gordonDrogon> although I've slept in and am an hour behind schedulle. and it's cold, so my bread didn't rise as much as I hoped, so it'll take even longer.
[9:36] <gordonDrogon> it'll tast better though, but won't be in the shop until 10am rather than 9am.
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[9:36] <gordonDrogon> better late than never I guess.
[9:36] <gordonDrogon> might use a Pi as an alarm clock next time ;-)
[9:36] <ShorTie> that is what they say
[9:37] <ShorTie> i have not used an alarm clock in almost 10 years .. :)~
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[9:43] <ShorTie> still have not figured out the thread stuff for the adc current monitoring .. :/~
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[10:14] <gordonDrogon> what ADC?
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[10:17] <ShorTie> mcp3008
[10:18] <ShorTie> for monitoring the feed line run time/ no run time
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[10:20] <ShorTie> i was thinking it might be best to setup each channel in it's own thread so they can work individually
[10:23] <ShorTie> and the main program would just read the adc value and update the array with the info
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[10:32] <herdingcat> do we have fedora rootfs for rpi?
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[10:32] <shiftplusone> herdingcat, aye, 'pidora'... it doesn't get much attention though.
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[10:33] <herdingcat> shiftplusone, so is there any rootfs?
[10:33] <herdingcat> shiftplusone, I know there's a remix there.
[10:34] <shiftplusone> I don't get it... does 'rootfs' mean something special in fedora world?
[10:35] <herdingcat> shiftplusone, no, rootfs means only contain root filesystem
[10:35] <shiftplusone> anyway, I guess I didn't understand the question, my mistake. =/
[10:35] <ShorTie> ya, i thought it was just another flavor of linux
[10:35] <shiftplusone> and what is the something else than the pidora image contains?
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[11:19] <PfhatHome> does anyone know where in memory the kernel heap is usually located?
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[11:26] <Chetic> I'm trying to compile with a static library using "gcc -lbcm2835 -L. -I. test.c -o test" but I get this from the linker: "test.c:(.text+0x24): undefined reference to `bcm2835_init'"
[11:26] <Chetic> but I've checked with objdump and I can see the symbol in libbcm2835.a so I don't know what's wrong
[11:27] <shiftplusone> have you tried stealing the -l parameters from the examples in opt/src to check which one you're missing? (if any)
[11:27] <Chetic> what opt/src?
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[11:27] <shiftplusone> idn, maybe the hello triangle example
[11:28] <Chetic> not sure what you are talking about
[11:28] <Chetic> this is the lib I'm trying to link with: http://www.airspayce.com/mikem/bcm2835/
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[11:30] <Chetic> ah! I had to put -lbcm2835 at the END
[11:30] <Chetic> :D
[11:30] <shiftplusone> really? didn't think that would make a difference.
[11:30] <shiftplusone> Handy to know, thanks.
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[11:33] <PfhorSlayer> it's possible that due to the link order with it first that it was stripped or something
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[11:34] <Chetic> yeah I think you're supposed to think "<param1> requires <param2> requires <param3>"
[11:35] <Chetic> for linking at least
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[11:39] <gordonDrogon> ShorTie, sorry - got distracted by bread there - if running 2 threads, then you'll need to do some locking to make sure only one accesses the SPI at any one time.
[11:40] <gordonDrogon> ShorTie, personally, I'd run one thread to read both devices, then low-pass-filter, and store the results with a separate function to read the stored results.
[11:40] <PfhorSlayer> Yeah, it generally links by having a list of exports and imports; each included object file/library adds to those lists, and after each one is loaded the all the exports are checked against the imports. If any exports are in the imports list, that file is kept, otherwise it is ignored.
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[12:48] <Relsak> Just put passive cooler on CPU. But forgot my previous temp at full load, so can't compare. How are your devices going on full loads? :\
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[12:48] <shiftplusone> about 60-70 C is common.
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[12:49] <Relsak> Woah. Running ~47 atm.
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[12:50] <shiftplusone> really depends on ambient temperature, I suppose.
[12:50] <Relsak> I know.
[12:50] <shiftplusone> keep in mind that anything below 75 is pretty cool for this type of chip.
[12:51] <Relsak> Friend of my put same cooler and got 2C less on idle. So should be more on full load I guess.
[12:51] <Relsak> (2C less than temp without cooler)
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[13:11] <Kane> .
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[13:14] <gordonDrogon> I've nevber bothered with coolers, heatsinks, etc. it's designed to run fine at 80C (and more)
[13:15] <gordonDrogon> doesn't seem worth it the bother, really.
[13:15] <shiftplusone> Some people think it will increase the lifetime of the chip, but I am sure that other components will break before the CPU anyway.
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[14:13] <ShadowJK> man, 1500uF added, and it only halved the ripple to 0.2V
[14:14] <pksato> 200mV of ripple? It is very bad psu.
[14:14] <shiftplusone> What's the frequency?
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[14:34] <ShadowJK> yeah.. period of 20ms
[14:36] <shiftplusone> So.... so the 50Hz from mains then =/
[14:36] <SpeedEvil> 20ms??
[14:36] <SpeedEvil> Did you typo 10?
[14:36] <SpeedEvil> (and yes, I am aware of single diode SMPSs
[14:37] <ShadowJK> no, 20ms. It's 20ms blips surrounded by sometimes more than 500ms of stability
[14:38] <ShadowJK> Goes away after shutdown -h on rpi too
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[14:41] <ShadowJK> I need to get something better than this toyscope :-)
[14:41] <shiftplusone> ooh, are you sure your scope is not set to 10x while the probe is 1x or anything like that?
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[14:43] <ShadowJK> it doesn't have 10x
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[14:44] <shiftplusone> Maybe an interesting question for ##electronics.
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[14:46] <ShadowJK> The power might not be an issue anyway.. but it was a hunch since swapping in the rpi (and consequently psu) was a last minute change :-)
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[14:48] <pksato> ShadowJK: toyscope?
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[14:49] <ShadowJK> it was a $50 kit ;-)
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[15:25] <steve_rox> my rpi crashed again
[15:26] <steve_rox> it was driveing
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[15:30] <steve_rox> car axel smashed
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[15:34] <vibhavp> How would I compile x86 binaries on my raspberry pi?
[15:34] <vibhavp> (Except using qemu as an option)
[15:34] <SpeedEvil> With gcc, and the appropriate cross compilation options
[15:35] <vibhavp> SpeedEvil: Is it that easy?
[15:36] <SpeedEvil> https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Distcc/Cross-Compiling
[15:36] <SpeedEvil> For example
[15:36] <SpeedEvil> But it's breoadly the same as compiling arm on x86
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[16:06] <gordonDrogon> I think the real answer is: Slowly.
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[16:10] <patagonicus> vibhavp: Yep, take a look at crosscompiling. Most guides will be for compiling ARM on x86, but swapping the two should work (as well as crosscompiling works). However, the question is, why would you want to? Even running ARM binaries with Qemu, which is slow, my laptop is faster than a RPi at compiling.
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[17:10] <semitones> hey everybody -- trying to figure out why my ethernet doesn't seem to work
[17:11] <patagonicus> semitones: Doesn't work in what sense? Are you using DHCP or static configuration? Do you get an address? Can you ping your router, 8.8.8.8 and/or google.com?
[17:12] <semitones> thanks for helping me ask the right questions. Right now when I plug in a cat5 to my router, none of the lights come on
[17:13] <semitones> i was messing around with /etc/network/interfaces and commandline.txt, but they both seem to be normal now
[17:13] <patagonicus> Did you try the cable on a different PC? Maybe it's broken.
[17:14] <SirLagz> semitones: which distro are you using ?
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[17:15] * ShorTie wonders if he had oc at all
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[17:17] <semitones> the cable works. Actually, the only light to come on at all is "pwr." I'm using raspberrian, and I don't have a screen for it unfortunately
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[17:17] <SirLagz> semitones: can you pastebin /etc/network/interfaces ?
[17:18] <semitones> sure. Is the "Act" light supposed to be light up also?
[17:18] <ShorTie> power only light is firmware not found i believe
[17:19] <patagonicus> It should flash while it's booting.
[17:19] <stevarino> Hey all, is there a definitive owners manual or bible for the pi?
[17:19] <semitones> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6196913/
[17:20] <semitones> so if it's firmware not found, what did I do wrong?
[17:21] <patagonicus> Flashed the SD card wrong, probably. Maybe it's also the power supply.
[17:21] <ShorTie> re-flash sdcard is the easiest fix
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[17:22] <SirLagz> semitones: add in auto eth0 above iface eth0 inet dhcp
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[17:24] <semitones> SirLagz, thanks! I guess I didn't get it back right
[17:24] <SirLagz> semitones: working now ?
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[17:25] <semitones> hold on
[17:25] <SirLagz> without auto eth0, the ethernet lights won't come on
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[17:28] <semitones> act light still doesn't come on while booting. Should I check something in /boot ?
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[17:29] <SirLagz> semitones: does the PWR light flash ?
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[17:29] <semitones> SirLagz, no, it just comes on solid
[17:29] <SirLagz> maybe a reflash would be easiest then.
[17:30] <semitones> ok. I guess starting from scratch wouldn't be the worst thing ever
[17:30] <SirLagz> make an image before reflashing if you're concerned about losing a lot of wokr
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[17:37] <semitones> I'm just not sure if I can set it up again from scratch without a screen, but I'll investigate
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[17:45] <ShorTie> bash_history is a nifty file to backup
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[17:49] <user82> is there a distro that runs exclusively in RAM?
[17:49] <semitones> user82, puppy linux does, idk if it works on rpi
[17:49] <semitones> ShorTie, that's a good idea :)
[17:50] <EchoFox> how do i go about changing the file permissions of an external hard drive. i can write files to it fine on my laptop but when i connect it to the rpi i dont have permission
[17:50] <semitones> if I reflash with the raspberrian image, can I ssh into the pi using default setings?
[17:50] <patagonicus> user82: DSL, if it works on ARM machines. Also easy to build for any other distro (needs AUFS and a custom initramfs, squashfs helps)
[17:51] <ShorTie> should be able too semitones
[17:51] <semitones> that's user: pi with a password of... ?
[17:51] <patagonicus> semitones: You'll just have to find out which IP address the Pi gets.
[17:51] <patagonicus> user: pi, password: raspberry
[17:51] <semitones> patagonicus, that should be no problem
[17:51] <semitones> thanks!
[17:52] <user82> patagonicus, semitones thanks for the hints. puppy apparently does workd
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[17:53] <semitones> awesome! it's a great little distro
[17:54] * ShorTie thinks that might be a good start to notes, password that is
[17:55] <user82> semitones, i want to OC without SD corruption. i had lots of issues. or i suppose i could outsource everything to a usb
[17:57] <semitones> time for me to fire up good ole 'data destroyer'
[17:57] <semitones> if= of= infile, outfile, right?
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[17:58] <ShorTie> what, linux format ??
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[18:21] <semitones> do I need to reformat my sd card before I dd raspbian onto it?
[18:21] <bigbadben> Hey so I have a external hdd connected to my pi I use for backups, when I ls the directory I get cannot complete input output error. Google said it means the drive has failed, but when I hooked it up to my other machine it mounted the drive right away I could browse files etc with no errors any ideas?
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[18:23] <ShorTie> not really semitones
[18:24] <ShorTie> just re-writing it should format it good enough
[18:24] <Jusii> is it 2.5" without external power?
[18:24] <Jusii> I'd guess, you run out of juice
[18:25] <Jusii> bigbadben that is
[18:26] <bigbadben> Jusii, it has a external power
[18:27] <ShorTie> not sure if the r
[18:27] <ShorTie> rPi has auto mount or not
[18:28] <user82> ShorTie, for usb devices?
[18:28] <ShorTie> dmesg might tell ya
[18:28] <ShorTie> ya
[18:28] <user82> huh no idea. my guess would be raspbian has it
[18:28] <ShorTie> for hdd drives the is
[18:29] <ShorTie> did you look in /mnt for anything
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[18:30] <bigbadben> nothing in /mnt it is told by fstab to auto mount, I did a mount -a and got nothing either
[18:31] <ShorTie> what is it listed in fstab as ??
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[18:32] <bigbadben> what do you mean?
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[18:32] <ShorTie> what device is it listed as and what directory is it mounted as
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[18:37] <ShorTie> this is how a cdrom might be listed in fstab /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom auto noauto,user 0 0
[18:37] <ShorTie> so it's content would be in /mnt/cdrom
[18:38] <ShorTie> but the directory has got to be there already for it to be able to mount it
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[18:39] <bigbadben> yeah it is listed as /dev/sda1 /backup/foo
[18:39] <bigbadben> I restarted the pi and all is good now?
[18:39] <ShorTie> cool
[18:40] <bigbadben> it is strange though maybe the hard drive got turned off some how and idk?
[18:41] <ShorTie> the bits got lost in the bytes in cyber space some where
[18:42] <EchoFox> whats the default password for super user mode? im having some issues changing permissions via the terminal and want to do it via gui.
[18:42] <gordonDrogon> no default, just use sudo ... or sudo -i for a shell, then set your own password if you want to use su
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[18:44] <EchoFox> i have an external formatted to ext4, and stored in /mnt/disk1 . but i dont have permissions to even write to it.
[18:44] <EchoFox> i feel like im missing something really obvious
[18:44] <gordonDrogon> is it auto-mounted?
[18:45] <gordonDrogon> ie. can you see it in the output of df -h
[18:45] <gordonDrogon> if so, then check the output of the mount command.
[18:45] <EchoFox> hmm, i do not
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[18:45] <gordonDrogon> sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt
[18:45] <gordonDrogon> might help..
[18:46] <EchoFox> does not exist
[18:47] <gordonDrogon> you'll need to use dmesg or lsscsi to find the device node
[18:47] <gordonDrogon> I'm assuming it's a usb drive - they emulate scsi.
[18:47] <EchoFox> sdb1?
[18:47] <EchoFox> found it
[18:47] <gordonDrogon> odd that it would be /dev/sdb - unless you already have another usb drive?
[18:48] <EchoFox> no
[18:48] <EchoFox> just an sdcard.
[18:48] <EchoFox> i used gparted to format the drive to ext4 within the pi
[18:48] <EchoFox> do i need to do anything to make this automount now?
[18:48] <gordonDrogon> fdisk -l might find it too.
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[18:48] <gordonDrogon> no idea - I have always automount turned off
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[18:49] <EchoFox> so if i were to restart the pi i would have to re run sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt
[18:50] <gordonDrogon> I can give you my personal thoughts - might not be what you're after...
[18:50] <EchoFox> also. i still have no permission to even make a folder.
[18:51] <gordonDrogon> I'm curious why it's come up as sdb and not sda - I suspect if you unplugged it and plugged it back in it would come up as sda.
[18:51] <EchoFox> i wil try
[18:51] <gordonDrogon> personally, I'd edit a line in /etc/fstab to mount it with the 'user' option, so I could mount it and unmount it as needed by typing a command and not rely on any automount.
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[18:52] <kdihalas> Hello to all
[18:52] <EchoFox> well
[18:52] <EchoFox> replugging it in changed it back to sda1
[18:52] <kdihalas> i will need some help
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[18:54] <kdihalas> as i searched the forum this problem is very common but there is no answer.
[18:55] <kdihalas> i cant ping or ssh or rdp to rpi when its connected on the router throught wireless
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[19:06] <gebi> hi all :)
[19:07] <gebi> does the raspberrypi have some bytes of storage without sd card?
[19:07] <gebi> some nvram or flash or something like that?
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[19:10] <j4jackj> Nope
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[19:13] <gebi> damn :/
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[19:22] <gebi> then i need to solder a one wire chip onto my pi
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[19:22] <gebi> or are there any better options?
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[19:24] <semitones> reflashing the SD card didn't help. Powerlight still steady red, with no other lights. Is the hardware broken?
[19:25] <davor> can this thing be used in conjuntion with a lithium-ion battery to power the Pi? http://www.ebay.com/itm/181190701564
[19:25] <davor> or multiple batteries
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[19:35] <Jusii> I don't see why not
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[19:47] <gebi> davor: technically yes, though you are really missing a power management chip then
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[19:49] <davor> gebi, how would it manage power? isn't that what the RPi should be doing?
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[19:51] <gebi> davor: i started to use the beaglebone black for battery usage in the end because it has everything included
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[19:53] <ShadowJK> You also want a li-ion protection circuit if your li-ion battery does not have one integrated.
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[19:54] <davor> hm, the description seems to indicate that the chip is capable of doing that
[19:54] <ShadowJK> no
[19:54] <ShadowJK> It specifically says you must have it.
[19:56] <ShadowJK> And then lists what kind of circuit you need.. heh
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[19:56] <ShadowJK> I would not belive it's integrated unless proven otherwise.
[19:56] <davor> ahh, I misread, sorry heh
[19:56] <davor> hm, indeed. thanks
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[20:01] <ShadowJK> with luck it's included
[20:01] <ShadowJK> two ICs seems like one too much
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[20:25] <obiwahn> hi
[20:25] <honkeygenius> you're my only hope
[20:25] <obiwahn> hi own a pi rev 2B and i use an edimax network dongle
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[20:26] <obiwahn> as client eryhing works fine but i am unable to cerate an accesspoint with host apd
[20:26] <obiwahn> i found this outdated thread http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=91&t=6256&sid=658f3e12f49a18c5abb4bedef8b521ae&start=1125
[20:27] <obiwahn> is there any central place to find help
[20:27] <obiwahn> i would pefer a kernel patch over some dropbox download
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[20:30] <Jusii> wow, nice script there
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[20:31] <sney> look outside raspberrypi-specific resources. the thing you're trying to do would be exactly the same on debian.
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[20:35] <patagonicus> How do you even manage to create such a large script? o.O
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[20:38] <sney> it's probably forked from something similar
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[20:42] <bluesm_> Having the modified version of Debian on your raspberry pi, could you run packets compiled for x86 architecture ?
[20:42] <bluesm_> On ARM raspberry pi device ?
[20:42] <chris_99> what do you mean by packets?
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[20:43] <chris_99> do you mean programs?
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[21:02] <uznar> 'lo all, by any chance anyone using davfs on their Raspberry Pi?
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[21:03] <patagonicus> bluesm_: No, not really. Maybe with qemu, but that'll make it a lot slower. Well, even slower than the Pi already is.
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[21:56] <regis> Hey guys. I'm working on a little embedded project and looking for really minimal linux ARM installation for raspiB - something like FreeBSD - sshd and almost nothing more. Which distro should I be interested in?
[21:56] <Schnuws> how about arch linux?
[21:56] <regis> It does not come with xorg, wms and other gui stuff?
[21:57] <sney> the base install from the hifi raspbian installer comes in at, I think, 500MB?
[21:57] <sney> prebuilt images usually have large collections of software on them. when you want minimal and customizable, what you want is not a prebuilt image but an installer.
[21:57] <patagonicus> If you really want to you could just take a kernel and an initramfs with busybox + dropbear. Should come in at less than 20MB, but will be some work to build.
[21:58] <regis> I have tried installers from NOOBS image but they all had some prebuilt stuff I didn't need
[21:58] <sney> https://github.com/hifi/raspbian-ua-netinst
[21:58] <sney> read his readme.
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[21:59] <regis> patagonicus: Nah, busybox is not enough for me. I'd like to have normal linux installation
[21:59] <regis> uh, archlinux-hf-2013-07-22.img weights 1.8gb
[22:00] <BurtyB> for a 2gb card it's likely to
[22:02] <patagonicus> Well, Arch Linux will be pretty small, as will Gentoo (though you may want to compile on something faster than a Pi), or you can take a different distro and remove packages until you get somewhere small.
[22:02] <sney> regis: https://github.com/hifi/raspbian-ua-netinst/blob/master/README.md really - read the part at the beginning about presets. I'm sure this is what you're after.
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[22:02] <regis> sney: just cloned it to check out :)
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[22:04] <regis> And this hifi/raspbian is based on debian, right?
[22:05] <regis> Ok, probably last question: Can I put it on a small card (like 1 or 2gb), dd it to image, then dd image to bigger card and grow fs without problems?
[22:06] <regis> I'm not good with linuces
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[22:07] <patagonicus> Yup, nearly all filesystems support growing. Most systems use ext4, no problem there.
[22:07] <regis> thanks
[22:07] <patagonicus> (ext4 also supports offline shrinking, so you can even put it on a small card if there's enough free space)
[22:08] <sney> yeah, raspbian is essentially a straight recompile of debian wheezy armhf for the raspberrypi cpu
[22:08] <sney> packages, config conventions, etc are interchangeable
[22:08] <sney> well, not interchangeable. what's the word I was going for
[22:09] <sney> the usage is the same.
[22:09] <patagonicus> Well, plus some packages specific to the RPi. The bootloader, for example. But basically it's the same.
[22:10] <sney> right. and bootloaders vary from arch to arch even within debian
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[22:11] <regis> I'm testing wheezy right now, but it's too big.
[22:11] <regis> rootfs 7.7G 2.1G 5.3G 29% /
[22:12] <sney> I'm guessing that's the foundation image?
[22:13] <regis> The fact is that I need as many space on card as possible, because it's for little motion detecting cctv
[22:13] <patagonicus> Well, delete packages. I doubt the 2.1G are all necessary.
[22:13] <sney> saving video? you should really consider putting that data on a usb drive rather than the sd card
[22:13] <sney> sd cards die
[22:13] <pksato> regis: use a usb storage to store cctv images.
[22:13] <regis> sney: Nope, frames. Like this: http://84.10.174.227:45678/
[22:14] <patagonicus> Also, I just built a Gentoo with a samba server, minidlna (which depends on ffmpeg) and some other tools, that's only 700MB (and squashed it's only 200MB \o/)
[22:14] <patagonicus> x86, but for the RPi it should be basically the same.
[22:14] <pksato> debian minimal is very big. arround 1gb.
[22:15] <sney> I'm just going to say 'in before "lightweight"' and excuse myself
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[22:16] <regis> Oh, one more thing. Will sd class 10 transfer differ from sd class 4?
[22:17] <obiwahn> i compiled the driver hostapd starts - it does not work :( association rewust to the driver - puke:(
[22:17] <obiwahn> request
[22:17] <regis> obiwahn: Won't work at all or is this problem with a driver in hostapd.conf?
[22:18] <obiwahn> http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=21&PFid=48&Level=5&Conn=4&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false took the driver from here
[22:18] <pksato> http://sirlagz.net/2013/03/04/raspbian-server-edition-version-2-3-1gb-image/
[22:19] <obiwahn> and compiled a custom hostapd that should work with my edimax stick
[22:19] <regis> pksato: Thanks, looks good
[22:20] <regis> obiwahn: I used driver=nl80211
[22:20] <pksato> and, if remove server daemons like httpd, mysql, php, etc save some MB.
[22:20] <obiwahn> na that does not work with my usb stick
[22:20] <obiwahn> i should buy that that is known to work with nl80211
[22:20] <obiwahn> regis: what hardware do you use?
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[22:21] <sney> iirc, atheros-based nics have historically been the best for hostapd
[22:21] <obiwahn> my hardware dos not support nl80211 that is the crap:P
[22:21] <sney> welcome to fun with realtek (tm)
[22:21] <obiwahn> sney: never again
[22:21] <obiwahn> i have lerned today :P
[22:22] <obiwahn> learned
[22:22] <regis> obiwahn: RT2501/RT2573 with hostapd v1.0
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[22:22] <pksato> regis: or some minimal like tiny core: http://distro.ibiblio.org/tinycorelinux/ports.html
[22:22] <obiwahn> RTL8188CUS
[22:24] <pksato> but, tools that you need probable not packaged.
[22:25] <regis> Understandable. All I need is python, python-imaging (PIL) and later nginx with php and spawn-fcgi (or similar wrapper)
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[23:06] <themonopluralist> is anyone able to help me set up my rbp so i can use it with a hard drive as a NAS? I tried yesterday, using samba, and thought i had succeeded, but cannot access the hard drive over the network today and don't know why - i can ssh into the rbp and see the drive is mounted correctly...
[23:07] <patagonicus> themonopluralist: Did the Pi restart? If so, did you add the samba server to the init scripts?
[23:07] <Firehopper> is samba's daemon still running?
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[23:07] <Firehopper> cause I bet its not running :)
[23:07] <themonopluralist> patagonicus: it did restart, and i've restarted samba, how would i add the server to the init scripts?
[23:08] <themonopluralist> firehopper: yes, restarted saba so daemon should be running yes?
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[23:08] <patagonicus> Uhm, for Raspbian/Debian it should be sudo update-rc.d samba default (replace samba with whatever the script in /etc/init.d is called)
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[23:10] <sney> hooray, I think I killed another sd card.
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[23:10] <regis> How?
[23:10] <sney> bad luck
[23:10] <sney> and apt-get upgrade
[23:10] <sney> but mostly the first thing
[23:11] <themonopluralist> patagonicus: ok so i tried entering that, it gave an error message so tried it with defaults (not "default") and that got "update-rc.d: using dependency based boot sequencing"
[23:12] <patagonicus> Ah, sorry, I'm not using Debian based systems that often.
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[23:12] <themonopluralist> that's ok, i appreciate the help. don't really know my way around linux yet!
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[23:18] <themonopluralist> so that didn't seem to fix it :( - unmounted drive, rebooted pi (drive automounts) but still cant access it over the network. is anyone familiar with using samba at all?
[23:19] <regis> Just a thought: maybe automount occurs after starting samba?
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[23:20] <themonopluralist> regis: a restart of samba would solve that problem, wouldn't it?
[23:20] <regis> Should.
[23:20] <themonopluralist> doesn't :(
[23:20] <regis> If not - samba's log will tell you everything
[23:21] <themonopluralist> ok can you tell me how to get hold of that?
[23:21] <sney> hmm. my pi is still outputting to its monitor but I can't reach it on the network. fun.
[23:21] <regis> Uhm, no idea how it is on linux, but you should probably look in /var/log for directory samba or files samba.*
[23:21] <regis> or smbd*
[23:21] <sney> it is /var/log/samba
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[23:23] <ali1234> anyone know the maximum clock on raspi i2c in master mode?
[23:23] <themonopluralist> ok found it thanks ppl, i'm in var/log/samba, how do i view the log?
[23:23] <regis> tail -n<NUMBER> will show you last NUMBER of lines
[23:24] <regis> "more file" or "less file" will let you see log from the beggining and scroll down with arrows or space
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[23:26] <themonopluralist> hmm that tail -n<number> command just left my cursor on it's own without a prompt next to it, coundn't ESC or CTRL+X out or anything so had to close putty and go in again.
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[23:27] <regis> tail -n<NUMBER> logfile
[23:27] <regis> :)
[23:27] <regis> you can exit by pressing q
[23:27] <ali1234> ctrl-d to exit 'tail -n'
[23:27] <regis> or ctrl+c
[23:27] <ali1234> ctrl-d = EOF
[23:27] <patagonicus> regis: q wouldn't help for tail, only for more/less.
[23:28] <ali1234> actually tail -n shouldn't read stdin
[23:28] <patagonicus> Well, tail -n with number should and does.
[23:28] <themonopluralist> ok, i am in the logfile :)
[23:29] <ali1234> oh yeah my bad
[23:29] <themonopluralist> what on earth should i be looking for here then?!!
[23:29] <ali1234> look for something that sound bad and then paste it in google
[23:29] <ali1234> this is how i solve all computer problems
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[23:30] <themonopluralist> ha thanks i'm starting to get my head around this linux thing then!
[23:30] <regis> tail should read stdin for redirrecting streams
[23:31] <regis> Maybe if it'd have tail -f <file> option, it could disable reading from stdin (like cat file|something|tail), but it's too late for that
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[23:34] <patagonicus> Nah, no option => read stdin is built into pretty much every linux tool where reading stdin makes sense.
[23:34] <patagonicus> Even cat does that, although that's totally useless.
[23:35] <regis> It's not, it's good for scripting.
[23:35] <regis> cat > file, enter, now some lines, ctrl+d and you have file with 'some lines'
[23:35] <patagonicus> Hmm, ok, interactive usage, that's a point.
[23:36] <ali1234> you can use - as filename to read stdin in many programs too
[23:36] <ali1234> or /dev/stdin
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[23:36] <ali1234> it doesn't always work though
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[23:39] <themonopluralist> still can't get this samba problem sorted. google was of limited help with the logs. does anyone use anything other than samba for setting up a hard-drive/rbp NAS solution reliably?
[23:39] <sney> nfs
[23:40] <themonopluralist> is that simple to set up sney? anything i need to know?
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[23:41] <ali1234> don't use nfs
[23:42] <sney> the question was 'anything other than samba' and nfs is the answer, really.
[23:42] <sney> it has its pros and cons.
[23:42] <rikkib> I use nfs for the cameras I set up
[23:42] <sney> it does tend to be quick on the rpi, or so I've heard
[23:43] <rikkib> But, of course, that requires a Linux box
[23:43] <themonopluralist> is barracuda drive recommended / avoidable? i think i saw it on the rbp store...
[23:44] <themonopluralist> ali1234: ay main reason/s to avoid nfs?
[23:44] <ali1234> it's difficult to configure, even more so if you use windows
[23:45] <ali1234> if you get it wrong it is very insecure
[23:45] <sney> though if it's just running on your own lan, the security is kind of a moot point
[23:46] <rikkib> http://122.61.65.146:8081
[23:46] <rikkib> That camera runs on a RPi
[23:46] <rikkib> nfs
[23:46] <rikkib> from a i386 linux box
[23:47] <ali1234> sney: sure, as long as your lan isn't connected to the internet
[23:47] <rikkib> Both the RPi and Gateway run motion
[23:47] <rikkib> The camera has been running like clockwork for over 9 months
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[23:48] <themonopluralist> yeah security for me is a reasonable concern, not as regards the contents of the sharved hard drive, but rather for the rest of the network
[23:49] <rikkib> That gateway is hooked to a standard adsl and nat d
[23:49] <rikkib> In otherwords I put in pin holes
[23:49] <rikkib> ssh, http and camera ports
[23:50] <rikkib> Normally there are two cameras but one got broken a week or so ago
[23:51] <rikkib> It fell over, physically and pulled the usb sockets guts out
[23:51] <rikkib> Have to replace the socket
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[23:53] <rikkib> As for security, that is something you have to figure out for yourself... I have no problem setting up a Linux box or RPi to be very secure
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[23:54] <rikkib> I also use NFS here in my devel environment...
[23:56] <rikkib> I do my devel on a another Linux box running eclipse and mount the nfs on my gateway. That way I can test web sites mounted on my devel box in real time
[23:56] <rikkib> without the need to transfer files between boxes
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[23:57] <rikkib> and if the nfs does not mount you can have web pages still available
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[23:58] <rikkib> as the nfs mount overrides any files on the main mount dir

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