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IRC Log for 2013-10-08

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[0:00] <[sr]> Sonny_Jim: hum nice
[0:00] <[sr]> sney: oh well, i just have one from my samsung s duo, and its that low
[0:00] <Sonny_Jim> I meant that the USB spec for ports is supposed to be 250mA
[0:00] <[sr]> wait, it's 0.7amp's
[0:00] <Sonny_Jim> Chargers is a different kettle of fish
[0:01] <[sr]> damn, this letters are so small
[0:01] <sney> 0.7 should be fine
[0:01] <[sr]> output 5v 0.7amps
[0:01] <sney> that's plenty to boot and run the screen, anyway
[0:02] <[sr]> even without the sd card inserted right?
[0:02] <[sr]> the power led is on, in red, that's the normal state right? the ACT led is off
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[0:02] * m8 (~m@unaffiliated/m8) Quit (Quit: Sto andando via)
[0:03] <gordonDrogon> Gadget-Mac, yes - will reply back soon!
[0:03] <gordonDrogon> k1ng, sorted yet? I've been afk..
[0:04] <sney> [sr]: I *think* it's supposed to show the color splash when you don't have a sd card inserted. but I don't know. I've always just had a sd card
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[0:04] <gordonDrogon> I'm pretty sure the colour splash comes from bootcode.bin on the SD card..
[0:04] <Sonny_Jim> It doesn't
[0:04] <Sonny_Jim> Only with an SD connected
[0:05] <[sr]> so where do we stay? :p
[0:05] <[sr]> and without any keyboard, for sure is't due to now having any keyboard right?
[0:05] <gordonDrogon> I stay in my house...
[0:06] <gordonDrogon> Pis boot ok without keyboard.
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[0:06] <scottstamp> gordonDrogon: I rarely if ever have a keyboard plugged into mine.
[0:06] <scottstamp> and I only have HDMI connected for audio.
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[0:06] <[sr]> thats what i thought
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[0:07] <Sonny_Jim> (Came out wrong, they don't boot without SD card, and gordonDrogon is right that the colour splash is probably in the bootcode.bin)
[0:07] <scottstamp> It needs nothing but it's SD card to boot.
[0:07] <gordonDrogon> mine vary. I have one in a box with a keyboard permanently connected, but most don't have keyboards.
[0:07] <gordonDrogon> scottstamp, and power ;-)
[0:07] <scottstamp> Oh hush.
[0:07] <[sr]> well tomorow i'll bring the hdmi cable and keyboard
[0:07] <scottstamp> "Did you plug it in?"
[0:07] <gordonDrogon> "Is it turned on?"
[0:07] <Sonny_Jim> hah
[0:07] <scottstamp> "Try turning it on and off again."
[0:07] <Sonny_Jim> Used to work service desk, I used to phrase it thus
[0:08] <Sonny_Jim> "Could you check for me to see if the power cable is plugged in ok at the back?"
[0:08] <Sonny_Jim> makes them seem less of a moron
[0:08] <Sonny_Jim> 90% of the time, response is "Oh, it wasn't plugged in, silly me"
[0:08] <gordonDrogon> hey ho...
[0:08] <scottstamp> LOL
[0:08] <scottstamp> It's funny but awesome.
[0:08] <[sr]> of course it's on
[0:08] <[sr]> :p
[0:08] <Sonny_Jim> rather than "Of course I've checked that" when they blatently hadn't
[0:08] <scottstamp> I need to force a halt on this system or I'll corrupt my dotfiles... so BRB
[0:08] <[sr]> power led is red!
[0:09] <gordonDrogon> [sr], power led is supposed to be red.
[0:09] <[sr]> nice
[0:09] * scottstamp is now known as zz_scottstamp
[0:09] <[sr]> ok must be the cable then
[0:09] <gordonDrogon> the ok/act LED is green.
[0:09] <gordonDrogon> are you first time booting your Pi?
[0:09] <[sr]> gordonDrogon: that one is off,
[0:09] <[sr]> gordonDrogon: yes
[0:10] <gordonDrogon> [sr], look at it when you power it on - you should get a brief blip of green.
[0:10] <[sr]> correct
[0:10] <gordonDrogon> then if nothing more, you coudl be looking at a bad image, or bad PSU.
[0:11] * zz_scottstamp is now known as scottstamp
[0:11] <gordonDrogon> the usual action is a brief blip, then a few seconds of nothing, then more blips and more until it settles down about 30 seconds later. during that time the Ethernet LEDs ought to come on too.
[0:11] <gordonDrogon> ethernet LEDs will only come on if there is a cableplugged in though
[0:12] <gordonDrogon> when you get to that point, you can usuall SSH into it if you can work out its IP address.
[0:12] <[sr]> gordonDrogon: not the same sympton then, when i plug it on, hav a blip of green tand never more
[0:12] <gordonDrogon> I'd re-flash the SD card in that case.
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[0:13] <[sr]> hum
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[0:13] <[sr]> thats what i'll do with a fresh raspbian
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[0:13] <[sr]> only tomorow, no card reader here also grr
[0:13] <gordonDrogon> remember to write it to the raw device and not a partition.
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[0:14] <k1ng> damn it
[0:14] <gordonDrogon> zed time for me. 6am start to make more bread...
[0:15] <[sr]> gordonDrogon: well that is one detail, i was playing with win32diskimage and it sho'w only the partition, drive letters in windows
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[0:15] <steve_rox> win32 partition
[0:16] <steve_rox> others hidden since windows is dumb
[0:16] <steve_rox> might be visible in disk manager
[0:16] <[sr]> hum yes
[0:17] <[sr]> but, in win32diskimage it just show's drive letters of removable deviced
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[0:17] <steve_rox> since it writes to disks in a raw mode
[0:17] <Sonny_Jim> gordonDrogon: Could you explain INT_EDGE_SETUP? As in what it actually triggers on?
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[0:20] <[sr]> oh well, going to sleep, tks gordonDrogon and others
[0:21] <steve_rox> sleeping is hard
[0:22] <Marvin-RPi> Maybe he can RTM during his sleep.....
[0:23] <[sr]> cant :(
[0:23] <[sr]> i'm uni-tasking!
[0:23] <[sr]> :p
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[0:23] <Marvin-RPi> aaaww.... too bad
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[0:25] <[sr]> :)
[0:25] <[sr]> im out
[0:25] <Marvin-RPi> Well, get a good night sleep and then you've got plenty time to read up on a manual that covers the set-up of the RPi
[0:26] <[sr]> i've read the basics, but there's some details that im missing
[0:28] <Marvin-RPi> that goes without saying..... go to raspberrypi.org to the download section and your world opens up a lot
[0:29] <[sr]> i know that part, sorry, just dont have a card reader here,
[0:29] <[sr]> so was collecting some opinions!
[0:29] <Marvin-RPi> .....
[0:30] <Marvin-RPi> so why try starting a Pi up if you don't have a working OS on a SD-card? That will never work
[0:30] <k1ng> gordonDrogon, no it doesnt work
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[0:31] <[sr]> markovh: 'cause i got it with a pre-installed sd-card
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[0:33] <[sr]> Marvin-RPi: i mean
[0:33] <k1ng> i have install venus gps with this tutorial but i get no response from it at all
[0:33] <k1ng> http://fuenteabierta.teubi.co/2013/05/conectando-el-gps-venus-la-raspberry-pi.html
[0:34] <Marvin-RPi> always start of with a freshly installed image. that will teach you to operate your Pi faster and cover the basics of linux
[0:35] <[sr]> markovh: dont have any problems with linux, but now cant do do morre things, no card reader here!
[0:36] <[sr]> damn im sleppy, gotta go
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[0:54] <k1ng> HELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL YEAH
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[2:47] <ruel> Sup guys
[2:49] <nicdev> i am building XBMC from git repo and it's failing from an error for some variables defined in /opt/vc in the firmware repo. running rpi-update says I have the latest firmware but the file in question is different on my system and the firmware repo
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[2:49] <nicdev> ideas on how i can reconcile these differences?
[2:50] <nicdev> the issue is on the comment on this commit on xbmc https://github.com/xbmc/xbmc/commit/c02a7e15bfdba2743c9300fa8375cf22a908e8e7#commitcomment-4267969
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[5:05] <ruel> Guys, does raspbian have iptables enabled by default?
[5:05] <ruel> I cannot find my rpi in my LAN
[5:05] <ruel> *office LAN
[5:06] <Triffid_Hunter> the tables are permissive by default.. should be able to find it by avahi/bonjour if it received an ip address
[5:06] <ruel> Hmmm, well how about if its still in the login prompt (in pi)
[5:07] <ruel> will I be able to ssh into it
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[5:07] <honkeygenius> if you have the ip yes
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[5:07] <Triffid_Hunter> ruel: I think sshd is enabled by default, not sure
[5:08] <ruel> I enabled sshd when I installed few weeks ago, but I tried to portscan (22) my whole office network, I cannot seem to find the pi lol
[5:08] <ruel> I also tried ARP but none returned with the mac prefix B8:27
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[5:09] <Triffid_Hunter> ruel: well arp is for finding the mac address when you already know the ip, not the other way around
[5:10] <Triffid_Hunter> ruel: plug a screen into it, see what's going on
[5:10] <ruel> I can list all IPs in the network via arp tho
[5:10] <ruel> The problem is, I don't have a screen like before
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[5:10] <Triffid_Hunter> ruel: evidence suggests it doesn't have one for some reason
[5:11] <ruel> Yup, but has been proven here that its not blocked or turned off (sshd) by default
[5:11] <ruel> Thanks guys :)
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[8:28] <GuidovanPossum> hello, I'm just starting out and triying to set omxplayer to a default size for all movie playback so it will stretch to fullscreen and not show the terminal in the background any tips?
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[9:05] <urs> stretching probably isn't the right way to go, because that will screw up the video aspect ratio
[9:05] <urs> imho its better to just clear the background to black, and have it render at whatever size it wishes
[9:07] <urs> I have a small script which just does this: http://pastebin.com/dp0zKtNB
[9:07] <Ben64> not even necessary
[9:08] <Ben64> omxplayer -r
[9:08] <urs> ah. I built mine over a year ago. I guess things have changed. :)
[9:09] <Ben64> although i think you need to reset fb depth after omxplayer -r
[9:09] <Ben64> most of the stuff i play is 16:9 though
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[10:58] <mac_nibblet> Heya can someone gist /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[10:58] <mac_nibblet> i think mine is corrupted
[10:59] <Jusii> http://www.raspbian.org/RaspbianRepository
[10:59] <mac_nibblet> Yeap mine was corrupt
[11:00] <mac_nibblet> Jusii: thanks
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[11:04] <andreiiar> Hello.
[11:04] <andreiiar> Pls don't bane me again.!
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[11:31] <Jusii> any idea for a 10" LCD screen, preferably openframe. http://www.chalk-elec.com/ has been out of stock for awhile
[11:32] <Jusii> looking for something like this http://www.chalk-elec.com/?page_id=1280#!/~/product/category=3094861&id=14647624
[11:32] <Jusii> doesn't need to be touch
[11:34] <ShorTie> a small tv not work for you ??
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[11:35] <Jusii> no
[11:35] <Jusii> it's going to be 10" digital signage display
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[11:36] <ShorTie> digital signage display, what do you mean there ??
[11:36] <Jusii> like a picture frame but remotely updateable
[11:37] <Jusii> digital signage = those displays everywhere that shows ads, info etc
[11:37] <Jusii> price lists etc
[11:38] <ShorTie> so like a tv with a private station
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[11:39] <Jusii> yeah, that's one way to put it
[11:45] <ShorTie> why would a tv not work ??
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[11:49] <Jusii> because it's going to be small, 10", embeddable to a wall
[11:49] <Jusii> custom casing
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[11:51] <bacobart> n
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[11:58] <ShorTie> amazon has a 10.4" http://www.amazon.com/PLVW10IW-10-4-Inch-In-Wall-Mount-Monitor/dp/B00118EM1S/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1381226207&sr=8-1&keywords=10%22+lcd+monitor
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[14:36] <Phosie> Just seen Eben on the TV :)
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[14:43] <SpeedEvil> http://apps.charitycommission.gov.uk/Accounts/Ends09%5C0001129409_AC_20121231_E_C.pdf
[14:44] <SpeedEvil> Pi foundation accounts
[14:44] <SpeedEvil> To 31 dec 2012
[14:44] <SpeedEvil> 700K income
[14:45] <ShadowJK> Upton resigned?
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[14:49] <SpeedEvil> Companies house says RASPBERRY PI (TRADING) LIMITED - I think has not filed accounts - and is not required to for another several months
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[14:57] <SpeedEvil> Interesting - the foundation was buying broadcom stock.
[14:57] <SpeedEvil> (As in shares)
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[14:58] <SpeedEvil> To the tune of 150K
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[14:59] <SpeedEvil> The charity commision overview page contains an error - there is an extra 1 - making earnings 11M
[14:59] <ShadowJK> is that an attempt at securing supply?
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[15:00] <ShadowJK> or gamble on broadcom's earnings improving substantially due to the foundation's purchases of chips?
[15:00] <SpeedEvil> I have no idea
[15:00] <chithead> or gaining a voice at shareholder meetings
[15:00] <SpeedEvil> I was just reading the document in order to see why the reported earnings differed from 11M.
[15:00] <SpeedEvil> But it was a typo
[15:01] <ReggieUK> or just providing a secondary revenue stream that doesn't rely on pi sales?
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[15:02] <ShadowJK> It's stupid as a revenuestream, you'd want a diversified portfolio.
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[15:03] <ShadowJK> Shady contracts involving discounted chips in exchange for investment? :)
[15:05] <ShadowJK> That would be kinda cute actually, if it was new stock
[15:06] <ShadowJK> broadcom would get money, and on rpi foundation books it would look like an asset instead of a inventory expense? :)
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[15:08] <ShadowJK> Will the LTD part have to report revenues? Indirectly through the foundation there'll be ballpark figure of profits
[15:09] <SpeedEvil> As I understand it, yes
[15:09] <SpeedEvil> buyt not for some months yet
[15:09] <SpeedEvil> For some reason they don't seem to be required to file accounts in the first year
[15:11] <ShadowJK> For some reason I was under the impression a Ltd wouldn't have to report much anything publicly until it's really really big
[15:12] <SpeedEvil> That's also possible - I haven't looked into the rules on reporting
[15:13] <TheWarden> Hi, does anyone know how I can find out which file formats are supported by the OMXPlayer? It would even be nice to know as well what audio/video codecs are supported.
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[15:18] <linuxstb> TheWarden: Pretty much every container I think, as well as any audio codec (it uses ffmpeg). Video codecs are h264 and MPEG-4 ASP (aka divx/xvid) out of the box, plus MPEG-2 and VC-1 if you buy those licenses.
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[15:22] <chithead> also vp8 (sd) is accelerated if your firmware is recent enough
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[15:28] <Pitel_IPEX> is there some CLI utility to handle CEC/simplink? So I can turn on my tv from different room. :)
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[15:33] <TheWarden> I don't think OXMPlayer plays wmv containers does it?
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[15:34] <TheWarden> I believe OMXPlayer can do mp4,avi,mkv,mp3,mov,mpg,flv,m4v
[15:35] <troulouliou_dev> sad,i had to remove a pi from home production; could not sustain more then +-200 queuein deluged and became completly unusable ;(
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[15:35] <TheWarden> but I would have to test it out. I wish there was some kind of official list. I guess I'll have to do a lot of testing to determine supported containers and audio/video containners.
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[15:37] <TheWarden> troulouliou_dev: well most likely that app is using entirely the CPU. I've found that you either have to throttle things back or balance the CPU usage with GPU and memory to get an effective use in cases where it needs power. Heck I've had the Pi playing 4 HD vidoes at once flawlessly (audio excluded).
[15:38] <troulouliou_dev> TheWarden, with cgroups policy ?
[15:38] <troulouliou_dev> was running headless with deluged and nfs/ssh
[15:39] <TheWarden> troulouliou_dev: well I've never played with that. Just doing C++ programming directly to the GPU and playing with memory settings. Optimizing code in order to achieve it. I would imagine that could help though.
[15:39] <tig|> troulouliou_dev: could have been the USB bus getting swamped with traffic
[15:40] <TheWarden> troulouliou_dev: you may want to check out transmission as well. I've been told it's a lot more powerful and effective then other bt clients.
[15:40] <troulouliou_dev> tig|, definitivly yes +cpu too
[15:41] <troulouliou_dev> TheWarden, i was using an external disk so iguess ethernet + disk on the same hub can't fit with so much
[15:41] <ShadowJK> bt access patterns can be bad on sd :/
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[15:41] <tig|> troulouliou_dev: it is worse than that, the network card is in effect attached via the USB bus too
[15:42] <troulouliou_dev> but not an issue i m converting it to a zoneinder server atm for my foscam s:)
[15:42] <troulouliou_dev> tig|, yes know that
[15:42] <troulouliou_dev> ethernet + disk on the same hub ...
[15:42] <gordonDrogon> afternoon...
[15:42] <TheWarden> troulouliou_dev: oh really. mm that is rather strange. It could be the hub itself or certain USB devices causing the issue. I've had that happen in the past. Also is the external disk using its own power that is vital. I'll find out that eventually.. as I'll be doing benchmark testing with external drives at some point.
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[15:43] <troulouliou_dev> TheSeven, yes own 5v alimentation for hard disk, i have no hub, just the internal from the pi board
[15:43] <tig|> troulouliou_dev: please post back with your zoneminder experiences, I have a couple of ip cameras at home and never got around to setting it up
[15:43] <TheWarden> I just got in 6 more RPis yesterday. 3 for work and 3 for home lol. Two will be running 25/7 for testing stability and monitoring system usage.
[15:44] <troulouliou_dev> tig|, ok just updating firmwares cause of recent flaws on those and then will try
[15:44] <SpeedEvil> I wish I could run my pi 25/7
[15:44] <TheWarden> lol opps... 24/7
[15:44] <gordonDrogon> yea, that extra hour :)
[15:44] <troulouliou_dev> tig|, mineare described here : http://www.zoneminder.com/wiki/index.php/Foscam
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[15:47] <nid0> pi's are rock stable with a proper power supply
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[16:00] <ShadowJK> Even with proper psu, you wont be able to push enough power through the Pi to power a external hd directly off of it
[16:00] <IT_Sean> ^ that
[16:01] <mac_nibblet> Anyone here tried streaming a feed from the official pi camera to a html5 element in the browser ?
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[16:08] <Squarepy> no, challenging!
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[16:12] <mac_nibblet> Squarepy: talking to me :)?
[16:12] <Squarepy> sure
[16:12] <mac_nibblet> Squarepy: i have had ago at it with gstreamer without success
[16:12] <mac_nibblet> atm compiling latest version of ffmpeg to use with nginx
[16:13] <Squarepy> k
[16:13] <Squarepy> what format are you aiming on
[16:13] <mac_nibblet> mpegts
[16:13] <mac_nibblet> im going to try this guys solution
[16:13] <mac_nibblet> https://github.com/AndyA/psips
[16:14] <mac_nibblet> To be honest i know very little of video compression and transcoding so i have been googling the shit out of this idea :P
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[16:16] <Squarepy> well seems he worked on it for two days only :)
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[16:19] <Squarepy> you will need some restricted libs to transcode h264 with ffmpeg methinks
[16:20] <mac_nibblet> Squarepy: the second crazy idea i found was a javascript mpeg1 video decoder
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[16:20] <mac_nibblet> and somone that used Node.JS to push the video to the client via websockets
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[16:21] <Squarepy> video is always depends on the bottleneck I guess, isn´t updated still imags a better start :p
[16:21] <Squarepy> like timelapse, saw a nice project about that
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[16:22] <mac_nibblet> Squarepy: i need to add a variable delay to the stream on the client
[16:22] <mac_nibblet> i don't know if thats possible with motion jpeg
[16:22] <Squarepy> what is that?
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[16:22] <Squarepy> delay?
[16:23] <mac_nibblet> it can be from 5-35 seconds
[16:23] <mac_nibblet> i want to create a really cheap system for training, so i can provide video feedback to gymnasts
[16:24] <Squarepy> well you could buffer them, the smoothness of the video is another story
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[16:26] <Squarepy> http://www.designspark.com/blog/time-lapse-photography-with-the-raspberry-pi-camera
[16:27] <Squarepy> they compile video from the stills, that wouldn´t work for streaming I guess
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[16:33] <tig|> mac_nibblet: I have streamed between to rpi using the camera and gstreamer and a quick google suggests getting it into a browser format is doable
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[16:34] <mac_nibblet> tig|: i would love to get it into VP8
[16:34] <mac_nibblet> but the transcoding is to much for the poor pi
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[16:40] <andreiiar> Hello.
[16:40] <Phosie> andreiiar, hi
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[17:07] <troulouliou_dev> tig|, nosuccess so far with zoneminder and a foscam FI8918W
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[17:48] <RaTTuS|BIG> not Raspberry Pi but BBC being awesome http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-24439648
[17:51] <tig|> RaTTuS|BIG: I was quite offended by that BBC muppet RCJ failing at technical coverage again and belittling the appeal of the rpi to being middle aged men
[17:52] <RaTTuS|BIG> yarg that is http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-24430558
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[17:53] <tig|> it annoyed me as I can normally avoid his drivel but they put the audio onto radio 4 this morning
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[18:04] <tig|> basically if he doesn't understand something can't grasp the concept of that other people can
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[18:05] <tig|> I seem to recall he had a downer on the pi camera too (even though it was a beta early version) and basically said it was too complicated, basically his objection was that you had to use the command line
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[18:24] <atomi> erlang on raspberry pi http://www.erlang-embedded.com/2013/09/new-erlang-package-for-small-devices-erlang-mini
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[18:27] <Perdouille> Hi
[18:28] <Perdouille> I got a D-Link switch, and I want to connect my Raspberry Pi on it
[18:28] <Perdouille> It's connected, but I don't have internet
[18:28] <Perdouille> (I have internet with my other PC connected to the switch too)
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[18:28] <Perdouille> [root@alarmpi ~]# ping google.fr
[18:28] <Perdouille> Unknown host
[18:29] <Perdouille> (I'm on Archlinux)
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[18:36] <andreiiar> Can you ping 4.2.2.2?
[18:37] <Perdouille> "Connect : Network is unreachable" andreiiar
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[18:37] <andreiiar> Can you ping 127.0.0.0
[18:38] <andreiiar> I got this!
[18:38] <Perdouille> I can ping 127.0.0.1
[18:38] <andreiiar> pastebin "ifconfig" command
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[18:38] <Perdouille> I can't pastebin, because I'm not on SSH
[18:38] <Perdouille> there is lo and eth0
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[18:39] <andreiiar> inet adrr?
[18:40] <Perdouille> eth0: flags=4163<up, broadcast, running, multicast> mtu 1500 inet6 fe80::ba27:ebff:fe47:e6b4 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x20<link> ether b8:27:...... txqueuelen 1000 (Ethernet)...
[18:40] <Perdouille> I don't think you need more, yes ?
[18:40] <Perdouille> (RX packet ....)
[18:40] <andreiiar> I think you have no ip for your pi
[18:40] <patagonicus> Perdouille: Looks like you don't have a DHCP server in your network. Does your other PC use static addresses or does it get it's IP from the network?
[18:40] <andreiiar> Do you have an dhpc running?
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[18:41] <Perdouille> My other PC is connected with DHCP yes
[18:42] <Perdouille> If I ping google's IP , It give a "connect: Network is unreachable"
[18:43] <Perdouille> And lspci :
[18:43] <Perdouille> "Cannot open /proc/bus/pci" , "Cannot find any working access method"
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[18:43] <patagonicus> Did you enable the DHCP service? Arch wiki suggests systemctl enable dhcp@eth0; systemctl start dhcp@eth0
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[18:44] <atomi> whats in your /etc/networs/interfaces?
[18:44] <atomi> *network
[18:45] <Perdouille> patagonicus: "Failed to issue method call: Unit dhcp@eth0.service failed to start: No such file or directory ...
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[18:45] <patagonicus> atomi: This is Arch, it's /etc/conf.d/network@eth0 there
[18:45] <atomi> oh ok
[18:45] <Perdouille> I don't have /etc/conf.d/network
[18:45] <atomi> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Network_Configuration
[18:45] <Perdouille> network@eth0
[18:46] <Perdouille> and no /etc/network/interfaces too
[18:46] <patagonicus> Perdouille: Do you have a DHCP client installed? dhcpcd may be preinstalled, see if you can run sudo dhcpcd --help
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[18:46] <Perdouille> Yes there is patagonicus
[18:46] <patagonicus> Oh, I think I was missing an extesions: systemctl start dhcpcd@eth0.service
[18:47] <Perdouille> It's working patagonicus , GG :)
[18:47] <Perdouille> How can I do to make it working every boot ?
[18:47] <Perdouille> crontab ?
[18:47] <patagonicus> I thin systemctl enable dhcpcd@eth0.service should do that.
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[18:48] <Perdouille> I try to reboot, thanks
[18:48] <Perdouille> It's working
[18:49] <Perdouille> thanks for helping everyone :)
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[18:52] <atomi> yay
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[19:05] <Kane> o/
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[19:09] <atomi> \o
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[19:11] <Kane> atomi o/
[19:11] <drobban_> o/
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[19:12] <atomi> haha
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[19:17] <gordonDrogon> hoho?
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[19:18] <IT_Sean> hoho.
[19:18] <Gadget-Mac> gordonDrogon: Did you 'talk to me' earlier ?
[19:18] <gordonDrogon> hehe.
[19:18] <gordonDrogon> Gadget-Mac, yes - just to say I got the email.
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[19:19] <Gadget-Mac> Ok, thats what I thought. But it had scrolled off the top
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[19:19] <gordonDrogon> Gadget-Mac, ca nyou send me your updated version of the driver so I can check it with mine?
[19:20] <Phosie> Hoho? Christmas has come early!
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[19:21] <Gadget-Mac> gordonDrogon: No, as I don't have one ;)
[19:21] <gordonDrogon> Gadget-Mac, for the thermocouple chip?
[19:24] <Gadget-Mac> Oh. That one, should have it somewhere. I'll find it later (once the kids are in bed)
[19:25] <gordonDrogon> no wories.
[19:25] <Gadget-Mac> Which btw works a treat :)
[19:26] <gordonDrogon> thinking of monitoring my oven now for the baking I'm doing. I need to be more consistent.
[19:26] <Gadget-Mac> Someone save my sanity, have I at some point seen a web based arduino IDE ?
[19:27] <gordonDrogon> I've not seen a web based Arduino IDE - only the rubbish java one..
[19:27] <Gadget-Mac> gordonDrogon: I've got some dodgy python to do that ;)
[19:27] <gordonDrogon> I wonder if I can retro-fit a fan into my oven...
[19:28] <gordonDrogon> it's a range-cooker convection/stored heat oven and has some definate hot-spots..
[19:28] <chris_99> RPi was just on TV :)
[19:28] <SpeedEvil> gordonDrogon: Steam power.
[19:29] <gordonDrogon> SpeedEvil, Heh.. yea, if I could afford a steam oven I'd have one!
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[19:29] <SpeedEvil> gordonDrogon: I mean a steam powered fan.
[19:29] <SpeedEvil> gordonDrogon: you fill it up with water before starting the oven
[19:29] <gordonDrogon> SpeedEvil, a-ah... intersting concept...
[19:29] <gordonDrogon> since I need some steam in the oven to start with anyway...
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[19:31] * IT_Sean suspects gordonDrogon is attempting to build a redneck sauna
[19:31] <Gadget-Mac> gordonDrogon: Like the idea of adafruit's webide, but for Pi connected arduinos
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[19:32] <gordonDrogon> IT_Sean, no just a bread oven. big commercial ones inject steam at the start of the bake - I do this with a tray of water at the bottom.
[19:33] <IT_Sean> i see
[19:33] <gordonDrogon> Gadget-Mac, I use avr-gcc and Makefiles for all my ATmega stuff.
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[19:35] <Gadget-Mac> gordonDrogon: Sure, thats fine if you can work that way (which I can) but for others a nicer interface is good :)
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[19:38] <gordonDrogon> web based is just the wrong way IMO.
[19:39] <gordonDrogon> you then need to rely on the 'net connection, rely on remote storage, remote compilers and so on.
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[19:39] <gordonDrogon> then get a web application to run a local program -e.g. avrdud - to download into the ATmega, then run a terminal program.
[19:39] <gordonDrogon> you might as well just write it in java and make it standalone..
[19:39] <gordonDrogon> oh wait ..
[19:39] <Gadget-Mac> gordonDrogon: Inbound.
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[19:40] <Gadget-Mac> I was more interested in a web based IDE running locally.
[19:40] <Gadget-Mac> rather than one using the cloud
[19:40] <gordonDrogon> so the back-end written in ... php, java, pithon?
[19:40] <gordonDrogon> or even C ?
[19:40] <Gadget-Mac> Hehe
[19:41] <gordonDrogon> seems like hard work when it's all there right in-front of you.
[19:43] <Gadget-Mac> I can see both sides of the argument.
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[19:49] <gordonDrogon> I'm not sure what a web based IDE would give you over the existing java based one though.
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[19:52] <nicdev> with multipe Pis, is it possible say to cluster them and build something like xbmc on the cluster?
[19:52] <bitnumus> hey, can someone paste me the default cmdline.txt ?
[19:52] <bitnumus> i tried editing it to open up UART and now pi wont boot
[19:52] <bitnumus> error is "please append a correct root= boot option"
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[19:55] <gordonDrogon> dwc_otg.lpm_enable=0 root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 rootfstype=ext4 elevator=deadline rootwait
[19:55] <gordonDrogon> is one of mine.
[19:56] <bitnumus> ok i'll give that a go and see what it says
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[19:58] <bitnumus> meh
[19:58] <bitnumus> 'cannot mount superblock' or something
[19:58] <gordonDrogon> usually means the root fileysstem is corrupted.
[19:58] <gordonDrogon> although that commandline assumes you have 2 partitions and root is on the 2nd partition, and of type ext4 ...
[19:58] <gordonDrogon> that's standard raspbian.
[19:59] <bitnumus> i only changed this file and inittab
[19:59] <bitnumus> i'm using raspbian, and used NOOBs to install it
[20:00] <bitnumus> this file doesnt like commented out lines?, because i commented out the original but now i've totally removed it and no idea what it was :(
[20:01] <andreiiar> How many points I get helping that poor soul?
[20:02] <gordonDrogon> bitnumus, it's single line, nothing else. I've no idea about noobs...
[20:02] <gordonDrogon> I could probably download noobs and unpack it and check, but ...
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[20:04] <bitnumus> dwc_otg.lpm_enable=0 console=ttyAMA0,115200 kgdboc=ttyAMA0,115200 console=tty1 root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 rootfstype=ext4 elevator=deadline rootwait
[20:04] <bitnumus> i'll try this, this is in the NOOBs tar
[20:04] <bitnumus> dont see much of a difference though
[20:04] <bitnumus> somethings gone wrong
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[20:06] <gordonDrogon> that's really no different from mine.
[20:06] <gordonDrogon> the key part is: root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 that tells the kernel where the root is, and rootfstype=ext4 tells it what filesystem type it is.
[20:06] <bitnumus> yea its broke, nvm
[20:07] <gordonDrogon> the other stuff is just gloss.
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[20:07] <bitnumus> format, restart
[20:07] <gordonDrogon> sounds like the 2nd partition is toast.
[20:09] <bitnumus> there is a recovery partition, wonder how i'm supposed to get into tat :D
[20:10] <bitnumus> holding shift didnt work, so no idea what happened i'll just started from scratch
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[20:12] <gordonDrogon> the shift-key thing is detected in userland - after root is mounted.
[20:12] <gordonDrogon> to get the the emergency kernel, you jumper the I2C pin to ground.
[20:12] <gordonDrogon> which isn't going to help you here.
[20:12] <gordonDrogon> just throw it away and install raspbian ;-)
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[20:19] <LordThumper> Hi, I am trying to identify GPIO 4, is there a diagram with the pin numbers?
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[20:20] <shiftplusone> LordThumper, http://elinux.org/Rpi_Low-level_peripherals and http://wiringpi.com/pins/
[20:21] <shiftplusone> (the second resource has less clutter)
[20:21] <LordThumper> Ok thanks
[20:21] <shiftplusone> np
[20:22] <shiftplusone> keep in mind there are two different naming schemes
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[20:35] <[sr]> guys
[20:35] <[sr]> im going to try noobs network install, file's 20MB
[20:36] <patagonicus> Uhm, have fun?
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[20:36] <shiftplusone> You're going to try what noobs network install. Create one or try an existing one? If existing, where? O_o
[20:37] <[sr]> win32diskimage browse's for .img files, but the only file with some size is recorevy..rfs, is this correct?
[20:37] <[sr]> hum but i see it on the website
[20:37] <shiftplusone> Oh... you're right. My mistake
[20:37] <shiftplusone> I didn't know that was a thing
[20:38] <shiftplusone> but no, you do not use win32diskimager for NOOBS.
[20:38] <[sr]> np
[20:38] <shiftplusone> you just extract it to the card
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[20:38] <[sr]> just cjust extract the files after formating it in fat32 ?
[20:38] <shiftplusone> yup
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[20:39] <[sr]> ah nice
[20:39] <[sr]> let me do it then, i'll bother in a bit :p
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[20:40] <shiftplusone> make sure you don't extract into a folder on the sd card, but straight to the sd card.
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[20:41] <[sr]> yes the root
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[20:42] <shiftplusone> Should be fine then. (That's the most common mistake people make with noobs).
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[20:43] <Perdouille> Fail !
[20:43] <Perdouille> Edited my etc/fstab to mount something at boot
[20:43] <Perdouille> now, my raspberry boot, I got a message "Welcome to emergency mode!" that say I must login
[20:44] <Perdouille> but I can't : the message repeat...
[20:44] <patagonicus> Well, do you have a Unix based OS running somewhere? A Linux distro or a Mac or something?
[20:44] <patagonicus> (and a SD card reader)
[20:44] <shiftplusone> I don't think /etc/fstab has anything to do with the emergency mode. Did you modify config.txt?
[20:45] <Perdouille> patagonicus: I don't have a SD Card reader on this computer :/
[20:45] <Perdouille> shiftplusone: I did a pacman -Syu to update the system, then I edited the etc/fstab
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[20:46] <Perdouille> the emergency mode is starting just after the "Failed to mount ***" when I start the system
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[20:46] <shiftplusone> Ah, so it's not THE emergency mode. Fair enough.
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[20:47] <shiftplusone> So if you edit fstab from the emergency shell and undo whatever it is you did, you should be fine.
[20:47] <Perdouille> "Welcome to emergency mode! After logging in (But I can't login because the message is looping), type "journalctl -xb" to view system logs, "systemctl reboot" to reboot, "systemctl default" to try again to boot into default mode
[20:47] <Perdouille> but I can't login shiftplusone, it doesn't ask for a login
[20:48] <Perdouille> The message is repeated indefinitely
[20:48] <shiftplusone> ah
[20:48] <Perdouille> "Welcome to ..." 5 seconds later : "Welcome to..."
[20:48] <[sr]> shiftplusone: great, working!
[20:48] <shiftplusone> Perdouille, In that case, maybe boot the emergency kernel
[20:48] <Perdouille> How ?
[20:48] <shiftplusone> [sr], great
[20:49] <shiftplusone> Perdouille, http://elinux.org/RPI_safe_mode
[20:49] <Perdouille> It's archlinux, so there isn't an emergency kernel, yes ?
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[20:50] <shiftplusone> afaik, it comes with emergency kernel as well. Unless they have intentionally removed that feature.
[20:50] <[sr]> so light this igraphic interface!
[20:50] <Perdouille> So I'll try, thanks
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[20:53] <Aquifex> Hi, I'm trying to get my rpi to boot. PSU and SD card came with the rpi but SD was reformatted with NOOBS just in case after nothing booting, composite output being used. When plugged in the red light is bright. Green light flashes once, then a bunch of times, then stops. Then flickers almost imperceptibly. The rpi has broken my USB keyboard which will no longer work in any computer. Any ideas?
[20:53] <shiftplusone> The pi is not capable of damaging the keyboard O_o
[20:53] <IT_Sean> ^ that
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[20:53] <IT_Sean> Which green LED? OK/ACT?
[20:54] <Aquifex> ACT
[20:54] <IT_Sean> Okay. That indicates SD card activity
[20:54] <IT_Sean> The red LED indicates power is present.
[20:54] <andreiiar> I bought a keyboard and used it in rpi which now not works in any computer.
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[20:55] <IT_Sean> Sounds like the raspi is reading the SD card
[20:55] <andreiiar> I noticed problems with some keys from the begining dont know if it's from raspy or not.
[20:55] <IT_Sean> However, if it is not booting, the SD image may be damaged or incomplete
[20:55] <shiftplusone> it depends on what you mean by "then a bunch of times". Is it just random flashing or is it trying to more code and error at you? (http://elinux.org/R-Pi_Troubleshooting#Green_LED_blinks_in_a_specific_pattern)
[20:55] <rigid> andreiiar: and still works on the raspi?
[20:55] <andreiiar> No.
[20:55] <Aquifex> random flashing. I couldn't count it if I tried
[20:55] <rigid> andreiiar: it's broken... not related to the raspi
[20:56] <pksato> one way to damange a keyboard, is for over voltage. You PSU is a 5V output?
[20:56] <shiftplusone> Aquifex, Do the network light light up if you hook it up through ethernet?
[20:56] <Aquifex> mine is, yes
[20:57] <andreiiar> I only get one flash from the 3 leds on my keyboard but no work
[20:57] <[sr]> is there a console only distro for PI ?
[20:57] <andreiiar> Any distro ^&
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[20:58] <shiftplusone> [sr], arch is best for such things in my opinion.
[20:58] <[sr]> debian prefferly :)
[20:58] <Aquifex> shiftplusone: plugged an ethernet cable in and now all FDX, LNK and 100 LEDS are shining
[20:59] <shiftplusone> Aquifex, sounds like everything is working fine. You're just not getting anything on the display?
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[21:00] <Aquifex> shiftplusone: nothing. I'm using a composite output to an old TV, pressing 1,2,3,4 on the keyboard does nothing except make the ACT light shine brightly for one second
[21:00] <[sr]> Aquifex: had the same problem, use hdmi
[21:00] <[sr]> i think hdmi is the default
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[21:00] <[sr]> it seams
[21:01] <shiftplusone> Aquifex, yes, the pi itself is fine. You may need to do some magic in config.txt. Though I think composite should just work.
[21:02] <Aquifex> Problem is I dont think its even booting. Does it still boot when there's no HDMI or composite cables connected?
[21:02] <pksato> Aquifex: selected a correct input on TV set?
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[21:04] <Aquifex> pksato: yep, theres only one SCART source input on it and thats the one i'm tuned onto
[21:05] <IT_Sean> Aquifex: yes... it will still boot with no screen attached
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[21:07] <Perdouille> I'm on the safe mode shiftplusone
[21:07] <Perdouille> Where can I find my SDCard ?
[21:07] <shiftplusone> Perdouille, mount whatever partition you need wherever you want.
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[21:10] <LordThumper> Hi, I am connecting a short wire to GPIO4 to act as an antenna. If the metal ending touches the other pins, would that create a short circuit?
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[21:11] <shiftplusone> Are you asking whether you will short the pins if you short the pins? If I understood the question, yes.
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[21:12] <LordThumper> Right.
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[21:12] <gordonDrogon> don't connect it to +5v or 0v. or 3.3v
[21:13] <gordonDrogon> or another pin configured as output.
[21:13] <LordThumper> ok I will get a wire with a single strand
[21:13] <gordonDrogon> actually just don't connect it - that FM radio thing while of academic interest is really bad for broad spectrum interference...
[21:13] <netzvieh> how many openvpn sessions would run smoothly on a 512mb raspi as server?
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[21:14] <Perdouille> It's working shiftplusone, thanks :)
[21:14] <LordThumper> I will output on a unused frequency for in car use
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[21:14] <shiftplusone> Perdouille, np
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[21:17] <gordonDrogon> netzvieh, all the encryption is done in software - so the answer is many, but they'll be slow.
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[21:18] <LordThumper> gordonDrogon: Or actually, pollution of the radio spectrum is the whole point, muahaha.... -_-
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[21:19] <Vanfanel> hi there, have you ever used vc_tv_hdmi_power_on_explicit_new() BCM function??
[21:19] <gordonDrogon> LordThumper, how to win friends ...
[21:20] <Vanfanel> hmmm.. no VideoCore programmers around?
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[21:38] <[sr]> booting raspbian :)
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[21:38] * shiftplusone sets mode -b *!*@unaffiliated/andreiiar
[21:38] * shiftplusone sets mode -b *!*andrei.ro@*
[21:39] * shiftplusone sets mode -b *!*2ef37747@*
[21:39] <[sr]> ah raspbian has an option to use GUI or not, cool then
[21:40] <shiftplusone> All linux distros have that option
[21:40] <ShorTie> lot of nice options in that config program
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[21:40] <andreiiar> Hello world!
[21:40] <[sr]> ya rasp-conf
[21:41] <[sr]> raspi-config i mean
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[21:41] <[sr]> do you notice a big difference in speed from the SDHC cards to normal one's?
[21:41] <ShorTie> expanding the file system is the 1 most missed in it
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[21:42] <[sr]> hum default root passwd?
[21:43] <netzvieh> sudo passwd :P
[21:44] <Sonny_Jim> login: raspberry
[21:44] <Sonny_Jim> pass: pi
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[21:44] <Sonny_Jim> Erm
[21:44] <Sonny_Jim> That's not right
[21:44] <shiftplusone> other way
[21:44] <[sr]> login pi
[21:44] <[sr]> :)
[21:44] <Sonny_Jim> You can see where the confusion comes from
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[21:45] <[sr]> oh well
[21:46] <[sr]> way cool
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[21:46] <[sr]> i guess this will be my onboard car computer
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[21:47] <shiftplusone> [sr], ooh, you could hook it up and make it drive the car as well. What could possibly go wrong.
[21:47] <[sr]> shiftplusone: :) im kidding
[21:47] <shiftplusone> =(
[21:47] <[sr]> i guess everybody felt the same with this tiny thing
[21:47] <shiftplusone> well that's not fun
[21:48] <[sr]> one question, usb hub's deal ok with it?
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[21:49] <Sonny_Jim> Sure
[21:49] <Sonny_Jim> Get a powered one if you can though
[21:49] <shiftplusone> as long as you don't try to chain 50 of them together.
[21:49] <Sonny_Jim> Wifi dongles in particular don't like being plugged straight into the Pi
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[21:50] <ShorTie> get a good 1, those cheapy 1's are really that great imho
[21:50] <[sr]> ya... just inserted one and pum, reboot
[21:50] <shiftplusone> [sr], try booting with it already inserted.
[21:50] <Sonny_Jim> Even then, apparently you'll get a better signal with a powered hub
[21:50] <shiftplusone> yup
[21:51] <Sonny_Jim> Not seen imperical evidence for this, just heresay
[21:51] <Sonny_Jim> emperical?
[21:51] <Sonny_Jim> meh
[21:51] <[sr]> thats wat i had in mind
[21:51] <shiftplusone> There's plenty of empirical evidence. Some guy on the internet said so.
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[21:52] <[sr]> i have a box for the pi, just dont like the card to be out of it :(
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[21:54] <Sonny_Jim> And back to learning how to read the keyboard via evdev
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[21:57] <djazz> i spent this evening flashing 15 sd cards for 15 rpi's! http://i.imgur.com/uybM6Bk.jpg
[21:58] <djazz> with Google's Coder
[21:58] <shiftplusone> what for?
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[21:58] <djazz> this weekend there's a LAN party and we will have a rpi contest
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[21:59] <shiftplusone> ah, awesome
[21:59] <djazz> there will be a theme and you must make something, and the prize is to win a pi complete with sd card, case etc..
[21:59] <Phosie> I think I can remember seeing a micro SD adapter that doesnt stick out [sr]
[21:59] <ReggieUK> you should make a massive parallel computer setup and cure cancer
[21:59] <Phosie> Or was that just a kickstarter
[21:59] <shiftplusone> Yeah, those are out there.
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[22:00] <shiftplusone> Not just kickstarter... they're on ebay and all over the place.
[22:00] <ReggieUK> adafruit sell one don't they?
[22:00] <shiftplusone> aye
[22:00] <ReggieUK> or sparkfun
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[22:01] <Phosie> I think i only saw one on kickstarter, never actually looked for one
[22:02] <djazz> we tried to power 7 pi's in a single usb hub rated 3A, seems to work
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[22:02] <shiftplusone> Some people were saying that they don't work with some cases, so that's something to watch out for.
[22:03] <LordThumper> https://www.modmypi.com/sd-cards-and-adaptors/raspberry-pi-micro-sd-card-adaptor-mmp
[22:03] <djazz> http://i.imgur.com/fo2BcM9.jpg
[22:03] * Phosie thinks about buying an Arduino
[22:04] <shiftplusone> djazz, nice
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[22:04] <Sonny_Jim> 7A usb hub? Cool!
[22:04] <djazz> no, 3A
[22:05] <shiftplusone> Phosie, shame you missed the $9 arduino clone kickstarter. I have arduinos stashed everywhere now =)
[22:05] <djazz> 7A would be great though :D
[22:05] <Sonny_Jim> Ah
[22:05] <Sonny_Jim> Keep on getting things mixed up tonight, need food
[22:05] <djazz> hub in action :P http://i.imgur.com/mRqnrtJ.jpg
[22:06] <Phosie> I can get a clone for £10
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[22:08] <ReggieUK> djazz, is that a multi-tt hub?
[22:08] <Phosie> I want the genuine thing though
[22:09] <shiftplusone> Ah, I am too cheap for that nonsense.
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[22:13] <Phosie> I'm cheap too, but im also picky
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[22:13] <ShorTie> djazz, booting and actually doing some thing are different, watch out for all 7 rebooting while trying to play
[22:14] <Phosie> That's right, im barely powering a pi with my hub
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[22:15] <Phosie> An led flickers when I turn it on
[22:15] <shiftplusone> Phosie, yeah same here. I would buy the real thing over a clone on ebay, but this particular one didn't cut corners and is actually nicely made and looks pretty cool. http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/9-arduino-compatible-starter-kit-anyone-can-learn-electronics
[22:17] <Phosie> Shame I missed it, nevermind
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[22:23] <ShadowJK> http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/cambrionix-49-port-usb-hub-for-professionals-nerds/
[22:23] <shiftplusone> jeebus
[22:24] <Phosie> Why?!
[22:26] <LordThumper> Why 49, not 50?
[22:26] <shiftplusone> Because nobody needs 50 usb ports, LordThumper. Be reasonable.
[22:26] <LordThumper> Oh makes sense
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[22:27] <ShadowJK> the topology is probably like every other hub, 4 port hub with 4th port occupied by another 4 port hub
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[22:27] <ShadowJK> it adds up to 49 ports
[22:28] <shiftplusone> That sounds most likely. I was going to guess that they are using 7 chips which provide 7 ports each, but that doesn't make as much sense.
[22:28] <LordThumper> The 4th port of the first hub must supply alot of power
[22:29] <ShadowJK> power is routed separately
[22:29] <IT_Sean> the power is probably broken off differently. I am sure it is not chained
[22:29] <LordThumper> Ah ok
[22:29] <IT_Sean> If you tried to use all those ports at once, the latency would be biblical
[22:29] <shiftplusone> LordThumper, they can all connect to a 5v rail, rather then be connected in series.
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[22:30] <shiftplusone> IT_Sean, do you have the chapter and verse for that latency?
[22:30] <LordThumper> right
[22:31] <IT_Sean> shiftplusone: Chapter 13, verse 71 from the Book of Devices
[22:32] <IT_Sean> "And thou shall take due caution to not daisy chain multiple hubs onto thine self, for the latency shall be great"
[22:32] <Phosie> Lol
[22:32] <shiftplusone> =( I was hoping for a proper ambiguously applicable bible quote. =(
[22:32] <IT_Sean> Sorry... can't quote chapter and verse from works of fiction i haven't read.
[22:32] <LordThumper> Don't call the bible a "work of fiction"
[22:33] <LordThumper> It is the BEST work of fiction
[22:33] <LordThumper> Most successful anyways
[22:33] <shiftplusone> Probably not the channel for that.
[22:33] <Phosie> #1 seller
[22:34] <ShadowJK> Just chain usb hubs after eachother until you reach your garden shed where you want your usb webcam
[22:34] <IT_Sean> shiftplusone is correct. This is neither the time nor the channel.
[22:34] <ozzzy> LordThumper: the bible IS many works of fiction repackaged
[22:35] <Phosie> ShadowJK, a rope of hubs
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[22:49] <jheronimus> Hi, all. I want to have a local mailbox on my Raspberry (with a custom domain) to receive commands via email. What should I use?
[22:49] <jheronimus> Is it getmail+procmail?
[22:50] <pksato> if need to access extrnal account (like gmail hotmail)
[22:50] <jheronimus> No, I need a local mailbox
[22:50] <pksato> and a local mta, exim, postfix, sendmail, etc...
[22:51] <Sonny_Jim> ssh is so much easier....
[22:51] <jheronimus> Sonny_Jim: lol
[22:51] <pksato> for a internet connected mta, you need a busines allowed internet conection.
[22:52] <Sonny_Jim> Plus you gotta lock it down in case of it being used for a spam relay
[22:52] <Sonny_Jim> Use a webserver + PHP, whatever
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[22:52] <jheronimus> Sonny_Jim: whitelist in a spamfilter, no?
[22:53] <jheronimus> There will only be one email I'll be using to send commands
[22:53] <Sonny_Jim> Unless you specifically have to use email, there's much better protocols/methods to do what you want I think
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[22:53] <pksato> if you dont configure correct, you RPi is become as spam sender.
[22:54] <jheronimus> Well, basically I want a system that receives file links, downloads them with wget/aria2c/whatever and puts it into Dropbox with Dropbox_Uploader script
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[22:54] <Sonny_Jim> Yeah, might be better off with a webserver for that
[22:55] <Sonny_Jim> There's probably already a solution you can pinch as well
[22:55] <Sonny_Jim> But if you fancy the challenge, go for it
[22:55] <Sonny_Jim> Also bear in mind some ISPs won't let you run a mailserver
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[22:56] <LordThumper> On default ports
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[22:56] <Sonny_Jim> true
[22:56] <ozzzy> some won't let you run a webserver either
[22:56] <ozzzy> or a file server
[22:57] <Sonny_Jim> The idea of parsing a mailspool for links to download fills me with dread
[22:57] <jheronimus> Sonny_Jim: what's a better solution?
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[22:58] <pksato> on early era of internet, most file transfer are done via email.
[22:59] <pksato> was a service called, I dont recall the name.
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[23:01] <pksato> or in pre-internet era.
[23:01] <Sonny_Jim> http://lifehacker.com/roll-your-own-dropbox-clone-with-a-raspberry-pi-and-bit-1177788866
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[23:02] <Sonny_Jim> Or even just doing it yourself wouldn't be massively hard
[23:02] <Sonny_Jim> Setup a webserver, write a small PHP script
[23:02] <pksato> white a small httpd direct on python. :)
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[23:07] <Sonny_Jim> personally, I would do it ultra-lowtech
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[23:07] <Sonny_Jim> Just expose the sshd ontothe internet and ssh in and issue the commands
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[23:07] <Sonny_Jim> At least you won't haveto worry about the security as much
[23:08] <Sonny_Jim> GNU screen would be handy, along with ctorrent/wget
[23:08] <jheronimus> That's the kind of workflow I have right now. I want something faster and more universal (I'd use it on mobile devices as well, SSH is not that convenient there)
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[23:08] <Sonny_Jim> depends if you mobile device has a decent keyboard, N900 ftw
[23:09] <jheronimus> iPhone, not so much =)
[23:10] <Sonny_Jim> hmm
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[23:10] <Sonny_Jim> No copy and paste either?
[23:10] <Sonny_Jim> So actually getting the links into a browser could be a pain
[23:11] <Sonny_Jim> Maybe just a network filesystem, with a text file on the server that gets parsed for links
[23:11] <Sonny_Jim> It depends on what the clients you intend to use support
[23:11] <jheronimus> Sonny_Jim: keyboard is not an issue here. I mean, a quick email is faster than the whole SSH thing
[23:11] <Sonny_Jim> Hence why it's normally best to use a webbrowser
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[23:11] <Sonny_Jim> Not really
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[23:11] <Sonny_Jim> Setup keys properly and there's no password/login
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[23:16] <Sonny_Jim> But anyway, what you need to do is:
[23:16] <Sonny_Jim> Work out what sort of files you want to download, wget, torrent, whatever
[23:16] <Sonny_Jim> Then look into what clients you want to use and whether there's a protocol that's supported by all of them
[23:16] <Sonny_Jim> Then figure out a server implementation that supports the clients and is secure
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[23:35] <trelane> is there any power savings to be had shutting off the thernet, and if so how is that done?
[23:35] <trelane> s/thernet/ethernet/
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[23:36] <Sonny_Jim> If there's not a cable plugged in, it should be shut down
[23:36] <Sonny_Jim> or at least as much as it can be I thin
[23:36] <trelane> so no module to unload or similar?
[23:36] <Sonny_Jim> Wouldn't of thought so
[23:36] <pksato> its save very little bit of power
[23:36] <Sonny_Jim> The major energy drain is going to be sending the bits down the cable (or attempting to)
[23:36] <ShorTie> it is part of the usb controler
[23:36] <Sonny_Jim> Not the bit of silicon that controls it
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[23:54] <SpeedEvil> There are major savings.
[23:54] <SpeedEvil> It saves about half the power use.
[23:54] <SpeedEvil> IT's echo something >/sys/whatever
[23:54] <SpeedEvil> It turns off both USB and network
[23:54] <Sonny_Jim> Ah ok
[23:54] <Sonny_Jim> But you can't shutdown just the network part
[23:55] <Sonny_Jim> And how do you turn it back on?
[23:55] <SpeedEvil> same way
[23:55] <Sonny_Jim> Erm
[23:55] <Sonny_Jim> No USB = no input
[23:55] <SpeedEvil> TImer/whatever
[23:55] <Sonny_Jim> lol
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[23:57] <ShorTie> ya, that would make it kinda hard to do a proper reboot or just about anything
[23:59] <trelane> damn, need usb :/

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