#raspberrypi IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2013-10-11

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[0:56] <gn0> hi
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[0:57] <techkid6_Laptop> Are there any guides on turning an RPi into a Amateur Radio Repeater Controller system? All the ones I saw were pretty confusing or made no sense
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[1:08] <SpeedEvil> Step 1.
[1:09] <SpeedEvil> Is there any open source stuff to do this on a generic linux box?
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[1:20] <techkid6_Laptop> SpeedEvil, Tons! You can develop in a palethora of languages, I prefer Python
[1:20] <techkid6_Laptop> You can use the GPIO to implement it into projects
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[1:39] <SpeedEvil> techkid6_Laptop: Well - yes - however it's useful to seperate the questions out - what's a 'how do I program' question can often end up as 'how do I do x on the PI'
[1:39] <SpeedEvil> What bits are confusing you?
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[1:39] <techkid6_Laptop> OH!
[1:39] <techkid6_Laptop> I see
[1:40] <techkid6_Laptop> Ok... Well.... there is Asterisk, which looks more VOIP less AR
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[1:42] <techkid6_Laptop> I thought you were asking as a new eprson, sorry xD
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[1:43] <pksato> techkid6_Laptop: you have knowledge about repeater, right?
[1:43] <techkid6_Laptop> A bit, I am going for my license soon, but, I am thinking ahead
[1:45] <pksato> me too. only basic teory.
[1:46] <techkid6_Laptop> Yeah, my Electronics instructor is helping me out (I go to a technical high school and stuffs)
[1:46] <techkid6_Laptop> We love the Pi :P
[1:46] * Firehopper waits for my udoo
[1:47] <pksato> site not found :( http://www.dxzone.com/dx16818/linrepeat.html
[1:49] <pksato> for NFW mode, normaly interconnect two trasnceptor, on as RX and other as TX, when RX squech open, activate TX. No need any other circuit.
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[3:16] <mij> anyone had any luck compiling dsniff on wheezy-raspbian? it's included the raspberry_pwn distro but I don't want to reinstall just for using one tool...
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[6:07] <Moon_Man> .
[6:07] <Moon_Man> Whoops.
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[9:05] <willybilly0101> is TTR (tiny tiny reader) too much for a RPI already running transmission + tor node?
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[9:59] <GingerGeek> <GingerGeek> I'm starting a Raspberry Pi club at my school and am starting with basic coding in Python via Minecraft API. We will be doing projects based around Python interfacing wiht other things as well eg motors for a quadcopter, etc, etc. Any tools or programs you recommend for a classroom and dev envrionment?
[10:00] <GingerGeek> i copied that wrong...
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[10:15] <ir4ta> GingerGeek: maybe this helps http://downloads.raspberrypi.org/Raspberry_Pi_Education_Manual.pdf
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[11:03] <tunage> I am trying to get a sierra aircard to work. modprobe snd_bcm2835 works fine and so does modprobe usbserial vendor=sierra product=snd_bcm2835 but no USB0 is every created? How do I make USB0?
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[11:05] <tunage> http://paste.ee/p/IoTZy
[11:06] * shiftplusone is confused
[11:06] <shiftplusone> what does snd_bcm2835 have to do with serial?
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[11:06] <tunage> shiftplusone not serial, sierra
[11:06] <tunage> http://www4.sprint.com/pcsbusiness/downloads/Sprint_Mobile_Broadband_Setup_Guide.pdf
[11:07] <shiftplusone> you're loading usbserial though
[11:08] <shiftplusone> and the audio module... which makes no sense to me. Just a sec, I'll skim through the guide
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[11:08] <shiftplusone> yup, that all makes sense... what does the snd_ module have to do with it?
[11:08] <tunage> shiftplusone I just realized that was a sound driver, not needed.
[11:08] <ShorTie> have you looked thru dmesg to see what it says, or just grep'n it
[11:09] <tunage> ShorTie cheated and grep'ed
[11:09] <shiftplusone> give us the full output of dmesg and lsusb, so we know what we're dealing with.
[11:10] <ShorTie> how does that old saying go, cheaters never win or sumfin like that ??
[11:11] <tunage> getting the whole thing, but if I read this correctly, it assigned cdc_ether to eth1? that would be really weird and explain my confusion.. http://paste.ee/p/XXCgT
[11:12] <tunage> http://paste.ee/p/ddmQb
[11:13] <ShorTie> that setup guide is copy righted 2007, so things might have changed a little since then, just thinking
[11:14] <shiftplusone> unlikely, but possible. You should get a /dev/ttyUSB0 no matter what, so it's just that you're not loading the module correctly, as far as I can tell.
[11:15] <tunage> I think it gave it eth1, if english still reads the same way. I have never seen a usb network device get an eth. I was wondering where it came from....
[11:16] <tunage> no, I am wrong
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[11:17] <ShorTie> what is with that ext4-fs error at the bottom of the 1st paste.ee all about ??
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[11:18] <chithead> most mobile 3g/broadband dongles will pose as usb serial device. but some don't, and you get ttyAMA0 or ethernet or more special things (e.g. nozomi)
[11:18] <shiftplusone> this particular one should
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[11:19] <tunage> * actually it does not like it gave it eth1, I only have 1 rj45 port) my second paste has more dirty/nasty fs errors. :/
[11:20] <ShorTie> [14659.025550] EXT4-fs error (device mmcblk0p2): htree_dirblock_to_tree:861: inode #47030: block 11731: comm updatedb: bad entry in directory: rec_len is smaller than minimal - offset=0(0), inode=0, rec_len=0, name_len=0
[11:20] <ShorTie> ??
[11:20] <tunage> ShorTie doesn't look good. fsck?
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[11:22] <ShorTie> me not know for sure, just asking
[11:22] <ShorTie> but wonder if your sdcard is corrupted
[11:22] <shiftplusone> (yes, it's not pretty and should should check what that's about, but it's not the issue here)
[11:23] <tunage> ShorTie that's where my brain is going
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[11:41] <gordonDrogon> morning.
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[11:45] <davor> hello
[11:45] <davor> oooooo I'm getting me some optocouplers todayyyy
[11:45] <davor> so excited
[11:47] <ShorTie> sweet
[11:49] <gordonDrogon> I feel sorry for the octopus.
[11:49] <gordonDrogon> ah, opto, not octo...
[11:49] <gordonDrogon> ;-)
[11:49] * gordonDrogon gets his coat.
[11:49] <davor> HAHAHAHAHAHA
[11:49] <davor> took me a while
[11:50] <gordonDrogon> what are you interfacing to?
[11:50] <davor> my PC's power button :p
[11:50] <davor> start small, ya know?
[11:50] <gordonDrogon> you want a Pi to turn a PC on?
[11:51] <davor> yeah. might even get frisky and interface with the status LED circuit too
[11:51] <gordonDrogon> er.. ok.
[11:51] <davor> I can't WOL
[11:51] <gordonDrogon> Why not?
[11:51] <davor> card doesn't appear to support it
[11:51] <davor> TP-Link TF3200
[11:51] <mlpug> And I got my camera yesterday and I am still excited. But have some challenge as well.
[11:51] <davor> my onboard one which was capable of WOL died years ago
[11:52] <gordonDrogon> you have a PC with a plug-in Ethernet card? it's an old PC then?
[11:52] <mlpug> I want to shoot close objects and therefore tried to adjust focus according to instructions here (http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/tag/camera-board). I just cant get the lens unit moving on the screw thread. I almost broke it already. Any additional ideas how to focus? (on top of article I referenced above)
[11:52] <gordonDrogon> ok
[11:52] <davor> I just recently learned about WOL and was then a bit angry for not spending ~5 USD more on a card that does support it
[11:52] <davor> that is, for getting the cheapest PCI card I could find heh
[11:52] <gordonDrogon> indeed.
[11:52] <gordonDrogon> :)
[11:53] <davor> you know, why in the world would I need a more expensive one, I've no idea what the difference is, I just need an ethernet port etc.
[11:53] <davor> oh, the youth
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[11:53] <davor> the foolishness...
[11:53] <gordonDrogon> it's called "a learning experience" ...
[11:54] <davor> indeed
[11:54] <tig|> it is a shame the pi can't wol or pxe boot... then I remember how much it cost :P
[11:54] <davor> I'll be doing my research next time I buy some hardware
[11:54] <davor> haha
[11:55] <gordonDrogon> tig|, boot off SD, NFS mount root, etc. not quite the same, but close.
[11:55] <tig|> gordonDrogon: yeah it is sort of a work around but not quite the same :) and that only solves the pxe :)
[11:56] <davor> and instead of WOL, just get another Pi to boot the original Pi
[11:56] <tig|> LOL
[11:56] <gordonDrogon> I've working on some stuff to bring a Pi out of sleep mode using an atmega.
[11:56] <tig|> just always need n+1 pi
[11:56] <davor> indeed tig|
[11:56] <davor> oo that sounds interesting gordonDrogon
[11:56] <gordonDrogon> the atmega runs off batteries when there is no power.
[11:56] <gordonDrogon> consumes under 1nano amp.
[11:57] <davor> wow. I had no idea those things were so efficient
[11:59] <gordonDrogon> or was in 1�A.
[12:00] <gordonDrogon> Ah, yes. �A. my bad.
[12:00] <gordonDrogon> still, it should run off the coin cell for a couple of years.
[12:00] <gordonDrogon> it acts as an RTC too, so when the Pi boots, it can read the time off it too.
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[12:02] <gordonDrogon> it's part of a board that hopefulyl will be released soon for the Pi.
[12:02] <mike_t> atmega only for time? RTC is better
[12:02] <davor> yeah that's still amazing efficiency
[12:02] <gordonDrogon> it does more than time though. it can wake the Pi at a specific time, or in response to external inputs.
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[12:03] <davor> that's brilliant tbh. does it have analog inputs?
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[12:03] <gordonDrogon> it also has an IR decoder in the software too, but that can only be used when its on the mains. So you could use IR to tell it to tell the Pi to shotdown for example.
[12:03] <davor> might be able to make it wake a Pi when you shine a light upon it :p
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[12:03] <gordonDrogon> davor, yes - all the analogs that an ATmega48p has, but there is another Atmega on the same board though.
[12:04] <davor> ah, nice
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[12:31] <davor> hm, what else to get during my trip to the electronics store
[12:31] <davor> I'll get a few BS170's and NPN transistors
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[12:40] <ShorTie> couple resistors might be nice
[12:40] <ShorTie> like 10k maybe
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[12:42] <davor> hm, indeed. I gotta order an assortment
[12:42] <davor> it'll take a month or two before it gets here
[12:42] <ShorTie> na, just need a couple different values
[12:42] <davor> I have some 100, 300, 2k, 10k ones
[12:43] <ShorTie> 330 and 10k are handy 1's
[12:43] <davor> indeed
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[12:44] <ShorTie> have you seen this ?? https://www.sparkfun.com/datasheets/BreakoutBoards/Level-Converter-v10.pdf
[12:45] <davor> huh, I haven't
[12:46] <davor> I'm really awful with transistors, I have no idea how level shifting with a mosfet works though
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[12:46] <davor> so I don't usually mess a lot with that
[12:46] <ShorTie> they call it a logic level converter, but it really a way to control things of different voltage and safe gaurge the rPi
[12:46] <davor> indeed
[12:47] <davor> I have one of those here, really handy little thing
[12:47] <davor> I just don't mess with it much :p
[12:47] <davor> I like to know how something works before plugging it in... I've no idea how that thing works :p
[12:47] <ShorTie> i make my own, it's fun soldering the bss138 to a 10k resister, lol.
[12:47] <davor> haha
[12:48] <ShorTie> but makes a nice little package
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[12:49] <ShorTie> tinning things is the biggest thing to soldering
[12:49] <ShorTie> then it comes down to a touch-n-go
[12:49] <ShorTie> with the soldering iron that is
[12:50] <davor> indeed
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[13:01] <davor> I'm thinking of entering a competition with the Pi
[13:02] <davor> just gotta come up with something clever tomake
[13:02] <davor> *to make
[13:02] <davor> it's local, sponsored by the city
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[13:02] <ShorTie> i know playing is fun, but you might think about a wol nic card, be alot easier
[13:03] <ShorTie> a used 1 from a pc repair shop would work fine most likely
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[13:05] <ShorTie> gordonDrogon has a nice blog about a week he spent playing with rPi's and kids, might give you some idea's
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[13:05] <davor> indeed
[13:05] <davor> oo, I'll check it out, thanks
[13:05] <davor> I need something an average joe could find handy
[13:06] <davor> and would use every day
[13:07] <ShorTie> that's a toughy
[13:09] <ShorTie> here's a link to look at https://projects.drogon.net/
[13:09] <davor> thanks!
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[13:11] <gordonDrogon> two weeks!
[13:14] <ozzzy> a pi and a gps driving a self-powered mower around the lawn
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[13:15] <ShorTie> sorry, old timers sitting in, lol.
[13:16] <ShorTie> i like that idea ozzzy
[13:16] <FR^2> ozzzy: *gggg*
[13:16] <FR^2> ozzzy: Or on a vacuum cleaner in the flat :)
[13:17] <ShorTie> it takes me about 8 hours and 4 gal of desiel to cut mine
[13:18] <ozzzy> you need a bigger swather
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[13:19] <ShorTie> got 62" cut now, but ya for some area's
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[13:20] <ozzzy> I thin Honeybee made one back in the 80s that cut 150'
[13:21] <ozzzy> not a production unit mind you
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[13:41] <ZiNC> hi
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[13:43] <Romeo-> hoi
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[13:44] <andreiiar> Hello. Yes, this is dog!
[13:45] <ZiNC> Is it, now?
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[14:03] <Firehopper> good morning :)
[14:04] <ZiNC> Hi.
[14:06] * Firehopper bounces, my udoo should arrive soon, maybe early nov..
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[14:07] <ZiNC> Pre-congrats.
[14:07] <rcombs> I would totally buy a raft-sized RPi for $35
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[14:12] <digitlman> is it possible to set vnvserver to only allow connections from certain IP addresses?
[14:12] <digitlman> vncserver
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[14:19] <linuxstb> digitlman: Generally you would do that in your firewall, or using something like iptables, not in a specific app.
[14:19] <digitlman> ok
[14:20] <digitlman> I thought as much...but wanted to check
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[15:18] <digitlman> I am vnc-ing thru SSh tunneling...is there a faster way to do this?
[15:19] <digitlman> or just setting the vnc client to a low-bandwith settings?
[15:19] <justincampbell> released this today, it creates a mobile web page for controlling gpio, would love feedback https://github.com/justincampbell/whipped-cream#whipped-cream
[15:20] <SirLagz> digitlman: why use VNC at all ?
[15:20] <patagonicus> digitlman: If you can't reach the vnc server directly, then the answer is probably "no". You could use a VPN (tinc, OpenVPN, etc.), but that'll still have additional latency.
[15:20] <digitlman> I like using the GUI from work sometimes
[15:20] <SirLagz> digitlman: there's not really anything else that will give you a gui then. You could try using FreeNX or something similar but bandwidth is the limitation there
[15:21] <digitlman> it works ok...I was just wondering if there was a faster way
[15:21] <theaftermath> Why do you need a vnc for a gui?
[15:21] <digitlman> yeah freenx I have heard of
[15:21] <patagonicus> Maybe X-Forwarding through ssh? But you'd still need to tunnel SSH itself, so you'd encrypt twice …
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[15:21] <theaftermath> I use x forwarding over ssh
[15:22] <SirLagz> digitlman: I think what you're doing now is probably the easiest way
[15:22] <digitlman> ahh
[15:22] <digitlman> I figured
[15:22] <Coffe> nx the none free i like alot .. version 3 i used along time .. new version 4 i dont know what i think of .. but version 3 i can recommend
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[15:22] <digitlman> I did restrict the vnc to my work IP in my firewall....everything looks good now
[15:23] <digitlman> no more chinese connctions in the logs lol
[15:23] <SirLagz> lol
[15:23] <digitlman> I only wish I were kidding
[15:24] <SirLagz> digitlman: I know the feeling...my ssh reject logs are always chockablock full haha
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[15:24] <digitlman> lol
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[17:04] <Sonny_Jim> Ok, here's a question:
[17:04] <Sonny_Jim> Is it better to write 5 lines of code that's concise or 50 lines or code that's verbose?
[17:04] <Sonny_Jim> *of
[17:06] <Encrypt> For the compiler, there is no "better" code.
[17:06] <patagonicus> I'd vote for "as many lines as you need so that the code can be easily unterstood"
[17:06] <ShadowJK> The option which ensures that after you've had a stroke and been lobotomized, you can still understand what the code does.
[17:06] <Encrypt> But if you want to publish it later, or even to remeber what you've done, the best is to add commentaries.
[17:07] <patagonicus> The most important thing I learned while working on a project for the last year was that once you go beyond "I need something I can hack together in a day and will only use once" maintainability is the most important thing.
[17:07] <ShadowJK> There's also the thing about debugging. Write code only half as clever as you can be, because debugging code is twice as hard as writing it.
[17:08] <Sonny_Jim> But aren't you just pandering to people who can't code as well as you if you write it in 50 instead of 5?
[17:08] <Sonny_Jim> and isn't 5 lines quicker to read and comprehend than 50?
[17:08] <ShadowJK> No you're pandering to future self
[17:08] <patagonicus> That really depends on the code. Maybe the 5 lines are easier to read if they are expressive, but maybe not.
[17:09] <Sonny_Jim> I guess this is the difference between old school thinking and what is taught now
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[17:09] <SirLagz> why are some people absolute idiots...*sigh*
[17:09] <Encrypt> It also depends on the programmation language! =D
[17:09] <Sonny_Jim> What with codebases getting larger and larger, verbosity (as cruel as it sounds) is the way forward
[17:09] <IT_Sean> coding is an art. there is no one single "right way". It depends on what you are doing, who you are sharing with it, and how much it's going to be used / reused
[17:09] <Sonny_Jim> Sure
[17:09] <Sonny_Jim> The way I work, do whatever makes sense to you
[17:10] <SirLagz> IT_Sean: does that give me an excuse to code like a retard if no one else will use my code ? :D
[17:10] <IT_Sean> SirLagz: No.
[17:10] <Sonny_Jim> I usually go for 50 lines, then optimise if I have to
[17:10] <SirLagz> IT_Sean: dammit. lol
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[17:10] <SirLagz> IT_Sean: I built an app that I never ever intended other people to use, and I had variables that started at 'a' and ended at 'z' lol
[17:10] <Sonny_Jim> eeek
[17:10] <SirLagz> then other people wanted to use it and modify it.
[17:10] <IT_Sean> SirLagz: that is just shamefully shoddy programming.
[17:10] <SirLagz> IT_Sean: agreed. :D
[17:11] <Sonny_Jim> I've discovered I don't like Lua
[17:11] <SirLagz> IT_Sean: I was coding on the fly while on the phone to customers troubleshooting their ISP issues haha
[17:11] <Sonny_Jim> I like languages where variables are defined, so I can tell them apart from keywords
[17:11] <theaftermath> If its going to take more time to write 5 lines than the computer to run the 50 lines its pretty simple
[17:11] <ShadowJK> I always code "for other people", even when it's not. Especially for small one-off things, because if I want to make a change a year or five from now 8Mve probably forgotten everything
[17:12] <SirLagz> ShadowJK: yeah that's what I do now
[17:12] <SirLagz> at the time though, I really didn't have enough time to code it properly
[17:12] <SirLagz> since coding wasn't exactly my job haha
[17:12] <theaftermath> If you're code is in an intialization routine you don't optimize that much. If its in a cpu intensive logic loop you optimize
[17:12] <theaftermath> If you need to understand optimized code you write everything you need to know in the comments
[17:13] <theaftermath> that's why they're there
[17:13] <Sonny_Jim> But I'm right in thinking that verbosity is usually preffered over concisity nowadays?
[17:13] <SirLagz> but source code takes up less space with no comments ! </sarcasm>
[17:13] <theaftermath> I'm an exception to that rule LOL
[17:13] <patagonicus> Yeah, that's what I did too. "This code has to be working as fast as possible, the others won't be able to do anything otherwise." and now I just spent 20h to 30h rewriting a 1k LOC monster I had no idea how it worked anymore.
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[17:14] <Sonny_Jim> SirLagz: And saving your word documents as 1pt font size makes em smaller as well
[17:14] <codinho> guys, is it okay if I hear shitty sound through the hdmi?
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[17:14] <theaftermath> <patagonicus> thats sucks
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[17:14] <patagonicus> theaftermath: Nah, I get paid to do it. ;)
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[17:15] <theaftermath> oooohhh I see well then
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[17:15] <ShadowJK> Heh, I was the other day reading code I wrote 13 years ago in university.. It was an assignment, and there was comments like "Ok, after we got it working we tried to optimize it by", etc.. and today I know that all the optimization we did were pointless, because the compiler already did them :)
[17:16] <Sonny_Jim> lol
[17:16] <patagonicus> I guess I could have written it "good" the first time and saved some time and work overall, but it wasn't too bad. I actually had some fun thinking about how to split the stuff into different classes, because it is connected tightly.
[17:16] <codinho> guys, what is about alsa support? I hear the noise on every start of playback and after some pause/resume there is a permanent noise
[17:16] <codinho> cracks
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[17:17] <ShadowJK> is cracks bad language or an apt description of a audio distortion? :)
[17:17] <IT_Sean> ShadowJK: it was an earlier comment, regarding [poo] sound from HDMI
[17:17] <theaftermath> seeing that I'm 17 in high school I look back at my code from when I was 12 - 14 and ask what was I thinking.
[17:17] <SirLagz> theaftermath: I look back at code I did yesterday and think that :P
[17:18] <geordie> IT_Sean: don't take this as criticism, but here in canada that doesn't really rate as bad language
[17:18] <geordie> wouldn't raise any eyebrows
[17:18] <IT_Sean> geordie: this is #raspberrypi, not canada.
[17:18] <Sonny_Jim> Well, I'm pretty sure everywhere in the english world that's classed as foul language
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[17:18] <SirLagz> geordie: same in Australia, but this isn't Australia, or Canada. Its #Raspberrypi
[17:19] <Sonny_Jim> The idea is that kids are the target of the Pi, so we need to be clean
[17:19] <Sonny_Jim> Imagine if a schoolteacher had the IRC room open in one of his classes on the projector etc
[17:20] <geordie> of course. again, not criticizing, just making an observation
[17:20] <Sonny_Jim> Same thing happened to me when I first came in here
[17:21] <Sonny_Jim> When you say the audio isn't very good, do you mean it crackles, stops and starts, what?
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[17:23] <codinho> wtf?
[17:24] <SirLagz> codinho: no swearing in here thanks.
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[17:24] <codinho> SirLagz, I did not swear
[17:24] <codinho> SirLagz, just asked
[17:25] <Sonny_Jim> Anyway
[17:25] <Sonny_Jim> When you say the audio isn't very good, do you mean it crackles, stops and starts, what?
[17:25] <Sonny_Jim> What application are you using?
[17:26] <codinho> Sonny_Jim, it has one crack on every start of playback
[17:26] <Sonny_Jim> What are you trying to play back?
[17:26] <Sonny_Jim> using what software?
[17:26] <codinho> gstreamer
[17:26] <codinho> I came here from #gstreamer
[17:27] <SirLagz> codinho: have you tried with another application ?
[17:27] <codinho> SirLagz, yes
[17:27] <codinho> mplayer is the same
[17:27] <SirLagz> tried the audio file on another device ?
[17:28] <codinho> SirLagz, ah
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[17:28] <Sonny_Jim> The file might have a DC offset causing the pop
[17:28] <codinho> SirLagz, audio is ok
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[17:30] <codinho> Sonny_Jim, I understand all aspects, I know why this drops could happens, I'm not just a guy who just want to find the solution, I'm just trying to ask here, does it known issue or not?
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[17:30] <herbert__> what do I have to tell g++ if I am compiling a small c++ program but want to be able to run it on ARM raspy. google shows me only cross compiling of big sources, but I need it especially for one roughly 20lines program
[17:32] <patagonicus> Well, first you need a gcc that can create ARM executables, that means creating a cross-compiler toolchain (if you don't have any dependencies gcc + binutils should be enough, but you will probably also need a libc implementation)
[17:32] <applegekko> compile it on arm platforam then!!
[17:32] <patagonicus> That's probably the better idea, especially since a ~20 line programm should compile fast even on a RPi.
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[18:11] <monopluralist> set timestamp
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[18:19] <bitnumus> hi, can someone advise on using a matrix keypad as a normal use, i'm getting permission errors for /dev/mem, and can't run it as root for other reasons
[18:20] <theaftermath> how is this keypad connected? USB?
[18:22] <bitnumus> GPIO
[18:22] <bitnumus> 'keypad'
[18:22] <theaftermath> I'm pretty sure you can't acces the GPIO without root
[18:23] <bitnumus> so how are you supposed to use it inside an application that shouldnt be run as root ?
[18:23] <bitnumus> or for other reasons its not possible to run as root
[18:23] <Sonny_Jim> You can, sorta
[18:23] <Sonny_Jim> WiringPi app gpio lets you read/write without root
[18:23] <bitnumus> am example right now, is if i try to run this through ssh -X
[18:23] <Sonny_Jim> You have to use the /sys system I believe
[18:24] <bitnumus> you can't run things as root with Xforwarding it seems
[18:24] <Sonny_Jim> So you need to (as root) export the GPIO pins to /sys
[18:24] <Sonny_Jim> Then you can read/write to them as a normal user
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[18:24] <theaftermath> I run root over x forwarding
[18:25] <Sonny_Jim> I thought the question was "Can you read/write GPIO as non-root?"
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[18:26] <bitnumus> Sonny_Jim, thanks taking a look now
[18:26] <bitnumus> this seems useful, any idea why its not packaged and in repos ?
[18:26] <Sonny_Jim> It's very Pi specific
[18:26] <Sonny_Jim> But I suppose it could be included, bug gordonDrogon about it, it's his library
[18:27] <Sonny_Jim> You do pay a heavy performance penalty using the /sys method though
[18:27] <Sonny_Jim> His pages explain it quite well
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[18:28] <Sonny_Jim> That's not to say WiringPi is slow when run as root, however
[18:28] <Sonny_Jim> I have an interrupt that hits 16.67ms pulses just fine
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[18:30] <smd75jr> GENTALMEN!
[18:30] <smd75jr> I come seeking your assistance.
[18:30] <theaftermath> for?
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[18:31] <smd75jr> I face an a problem so great that it threatens the very fabric of computer science!
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[18:31] <smd75jr> haha
[18:31] <smd75jr> ok, its not actually that bad
[18:31] <theaftermath> goodness these raspberry pis are powerful
[18:31] <theaftermath> seriously what is it LOL?
[18:31] <smd75jr> XD
[18:32] <smd75jr> so i've set up my pi using the NOOBS package because lazyness
[18:32] <theaftermath> and
[18:32] <smd75jr> and now that its been all configured i went to take a dd image of it
[18:32] <theaftermath> and you're wondering how?
[18:32] <smd75jr> and noticed that there was a recovery partion taking uplike a third of the card
[18:33] <theaftermath> yup
[18:33] <Sonny_Jim> ghost is better for that sort of thing
[18:33] <Sonny_Jim> Or whatever it's called now
[18:33] <smd75jr> haha, does ghost even run on linux?
[18:33] <Sonny_Jim> ie you don't need a copy of the swap file for example
[18:33] <Sonny_Jim> No, but there is an OSS equivalent
[18:33] <BurtyB> partimage?
[18:33] <Sonny_Jim> It's name escapes me
[18:33] <Sonny_Jim> No, but it uses that
[18:33] <smd75jr> w/e
[18:33] <smd75jr> my question is
[18:34] <BurtyB> oh oh oh we get a question!
[18:34] <smd75jr> how can i get rid of the recovery partition
[18:34] <smd75jr> hahahaha
[18:34] <theaftermath> you used noobs.... isn't that the point?
[18:34] <theaftermath> I suppose you could delete the recovery partition and expand the regular one
[18:35] <smd75jr> yeah but wont the mess up the bootloader
[18:35] <theaftermath> that's what I was thinking
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[18:35] <theaftermath> you could try it and keep a backup
[18:35] <smd75jr> that was an option
[18:36] <BurtyB> in the recovery partition? ;)
[18:36] <lee> if anybody knows where I put the transceiver for the weather station, please let me know. kthx.
[18:36] <smd75jr> i already have a dd image of the card just incase
[18:36] <lee> also, if you happen to know where the weather station is, that'd be handy too
[18:36] <smd75jr> lee: is it in your other hand?
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[18:37] <lee> no.
[18:37] <smd75jr> awwww
[18:37] <smd75jr> :(
[18:38] <smd75jr> ok, im gonna try and delete the recovery partition and then expand the rest
[18:38] <smd75jr> TO GPARTED!
[18:38] <theaftermath> read this
[18:38] <theaftermath> http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=46379
[18:38] <smd75jr> yeah
[18:38] <smd75jr> i saw that
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[18:39] <lwizardl> hello
[18:39] <theaftermath> it wouldn't be possible to just backup your work?
[18:39] <smd75jr> ill probably just reinstall with a rasbpian image
[18:39] <smd75jr> but now i wanna see if this is actually viable
[18:39] <theaftermath> I do that periodically anyway. Much faster than installing updates
[18:40] <smd75jr> i havent really done any "work"
[18:40] <lwizardl> just got my rpi in the mail, used the windows raspbian installer to a microsd card, used a microsd to usb card adapter, put into the sd slot on the rpi and nothing is showing up on screen.
[18:40] <theaftermath> and I go on binges where I do something than forget about it for a month and when I come back I just reflash the card anyway
[18:40] <lwizardl> how long should it take to display anything on the hdmi tv
[18:40] <smd75jr> i'm just setting up a master base image with my configuration on it
[18:41] <theaftermath> like 2 seconds
[18:41] <theaftermath> you should get a nice box with fancy colors onit
[18:41] <smd75jr> lwizardl: around 2 seconds
[18:41] <smd75jr> haha
[18:41] <smd75jr> RAINBOW PI
[18:41] <smd75jr> XD
[18:41] <lwizardl> nvm used different adapter and almost instantly a rainbow of colors on tv
[18:42] <theaftermath> WOOOOOHOOOOO CONGRAGULATIONS WELCOME TO THE WORLD OF PI
[18:42] <Sonny_Jim> I believe that phrase should been shown on each boot
[18:43] <smd75jr> Welcome to the BorgIMEANPI
[18:43] <lwizardl> thanks :)
[18:44] <lwizardl> now to wait for the serial number to grab the codecs
[18:44] <smd75jr> are the codecs really necesary?
[18:45] <IT_Sean> We are the open source borg. Your code will be assimilated to the collective and redistributed freely. Resistance would be impolite.
[18:45] <smd75jr> nobodys reverse engineered them?
[18:45] <smd75jr> hahahaha
[18:45] <lwizardl> smd75jr, I plan to use the rpi mostly for xbmc and my dvr records using the vc1
[18:45] <smd75jr> ahhhhh
[18:45] <smd75jr> that would do it
[18:46] <lwizardl> yup but I atleast get to choose between 720p or 1080i with 5.1 audio
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[18:46] <smd75jr> how are you getting 5.1?
[18:47] <lwizardl> next step after codecs is to find a compatible sound option for the rpi
[18:47] <lwizardl> on the pi or for my dvr
[18:47] <lwizardl> ?
[18:47] <smd75jr> on the pi
[18:47] <lwizardl> not yet, plan on using a usb option but was reading they are not always working for the pi
[18:48] <lwizardl> mos likely gonna use the option (if xbmc is same as xbox days) to output stereo to all speakers
[18:48] <lwizardl> *most
[18:49] <smd75jr> in theory if the drivers are availible for debian you SHOULD be able to compile them for ARM and the pi
[18:49] <smd75jr> THEORETICALY
[18:49] <lwizardl> yeah it is linux and that always provides some options
[18:49] <lwizardl> :)
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[18:51] <lwizardl> well i see the pi logo on the tv so i guess soon it will be ready
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[18:52] <smd75jr> haha, my current project is setting up a dial-in server with the pi using a USB modem and the conexant linux port of the drivers is so out of date (kernal ~2.6ish) that it took me FOREVER to finnaly find a forum thread where someone had actually patched them to work with the latest kernal so my laptop could use it
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[18:55] <smd75jr> also yes, i do mean dialup
[18:56] <lwizardl> yeah
[18:56] <lwizardl> I may have to look at some of your notes when you get it working
[18:56] <theaftermath> why dialup???
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[18:57] <lwizardl> because I have plans about using a few pis in a project and it will use dialup also. but bewfore I can start that I need to get a few more of the other devices ready
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[18:57] <lwizardl> wow how long does it sit at the R logo screen lol
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[18:59] <smd75jr> because im going away to collage at marqutte in september (i live in CT) and i need a redundent way to connect to my servers at home and fix things (and figure out what the new IP address is when it changes because i refuse to pay cable vision $15/month for a negligable speed incrase on top of the $50/month we already pay)
[18:59] <lwizardl> sounds like you have comcast
[18:59] <smd75jr> *(negligable speed increase + static ip)
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[18:59] <smd75jr> cablevision mate
[19:00] <smd75jr> optimum
[19:00] <lwizardl> comcast did that same crap to me before.
[19:01] <theaftermath> lwizrdl not very long
[19:01] <smd75jr> http://dailyinfographic.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/the-beauty-of-infographics.jpeg
[19:01] <smd75jr> feel free to rage at japan
[19:02] <smd75jr> hte prices given are for 1mbps for one month
[19:02] <theaftermath> japan hsa always been light years ahead in available tech
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[19:02] <smd75jr> yup
[19:03] <smd75jr> plus, i live in a town in the middle of nowhere (in fairfield county) and my street has burried lines, so theres no wayin hell were going to get more copper LET ALONE fiber
[19:04] <smd75jr> the raspbian .img file, do i just write it with dd?
[19:05] <lwizardl> I used the windows tool just for a quick setup. but I think yes use dd to write the image to the card
[19:05] <Sonny_Jim> Forgive my idiocy, but 16bits is 2 bytes, right?
[19:05] <Sonny_Jim> 8bits per byte?
[19:05] <theaftermath> yes. yes it is
[19:05] <Sonny_Jim> cool beans
[19:06] <theaftermath> you are forgiven
[19:06] <smd75jr> cool thanks
[19:06] <Sonny_Jim> So are short int is 2 bytes, or 16 bits?
[19:06] <Sonny_Jim> s/are/a/
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[19:07] <theaftermath> It depends how your compiler defines it I think.
[19:07] <Sonny_Jim> Ah ok
[19:07] <Sonny_Jim> I just checked and with the gcc I have, a short int is 15bits
[19:07] <Sonny_Jim> *16
[19:07] <theaftermath> on a pi I think a short int is 16bits though
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[19:07] <udovdh> hello!
[19:07] <udovdh> question:
[19:07] <Sonny_Jim> I'm chucking portability out of the window with this one I think
[19:08] <udovdh> there is pi here running Raspbian GNU/Linux 7 (wheezy)
[19:08] <theaftermath> yah on some of the pics I program an int is defined as 2 bytes since they are only 8bit processors
[19:08] <udovdh> kernel is 3.10.15+
[19:08] <udovdh> does anybody know a precompiled kernel module online for ledborg?
[19:08] <udovdh> or where could I ask better?
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[19:09] <smd75jr> udovdh: isnt it on there website?
[19:09] <smd75jr> under install
[19:09] <Sonny_Jim> theaftermath: Makes sense, thanks
[19:09] <theaftermath> welcome
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[19:12] <Sonny_Jim> Oh and is there anything 'magical' about 131072
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[19:12] <Sonny_Jim> Is it a power of 2?
[19:12] <theaftermath> i don't think so...
[19:13] <theaftermath> yes its 2^17
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[19:18] <udovdh> smd75jr, there is a colleciton of zips but not for this kernel as far as I can see
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[19:18] <udovdh> also self-building the module is not doable for the owner (not me) at this time
[19:19] <udovdh> http://www.piborg.com/ledborg/install lists all kinds of 3.6 and 3.2 kernels, no 3.10.x?
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[19:24] <udovdh> we do have gcc but not enough space....
[19:24] <udovdh> brb
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[19:30] <davor> ordered some food, I need something to watch
[19:30] <davor> Star Trek!
[19:31] <IT_Sean> TOS, TNG, or DS9?
[19:31] <davor> deciding between TNG and DS9, I think I'll go DS9
[19:31] <IT_Sean> Really?
[19:31] <davor> come to think of it, I may even start watching TOS
[19:31] <IT_Sean> I've not been able to get into DS9.
[19:32] <davor> yeah? it's the best Trek imho, and one of my top TV shows :D
[19:32] <davor> it gets better after season 2
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[19:32] <davor> you just have to power through the first two seasons
[19:32] <IT_Sean> I'm still stuck in season 1
[19:32] <IT_Sean> I may have to try to get back into it
[19:32] <davor> it took me a few months to go through the first two, a month for S3 and S4 and about 3 weeks for S5, S6 and S7 :p
[19:32] <davor> that's how good it gets :D
[19:33] <Sonny_Jim> B5 all the way baby
[19:33] <davor> I strongly recommend you watch DS9 all the way IT_Sean
[19:33] <Sonny_Jim> I love the way Enterprise isn't even mentioned
[19:33] <davor> I should start watching B5
[19:33] <IT_Sean> LOL
[19:33] <Sonny_Jim> That theme tune.....
[19:33] <Sonny_Jim> Killed it
[19:33] <johnc-> ugh B5
[19:33] <IT_Sean> I'm actually getting into Enterprise. It's hokey, and low budget, but, it's not too bad.
[19:33] <johnc-> b5 seems seriously over rated
[19:33] <davor> haha, I hear it gets good, I have a hard time getting into that though
[19:33] <Sonny_Jim> It is, for sure
[19:34] <davor> into ENT
[19:34] <Sonny_Jim> And it has the Lost factor where they don't finish a story arc for several seasons
[19:34] <johnc-> I hated the resolution to B5
[19:34] <Sonny_Jim> I never watched it all the way through
[19:34] <davor> I keep trying to start with VOY, but nope. I love the Borg
[19:34] <davor> but can't get on with VOY
[19:34] <Sonny_Jim> VOY is very un-Star Trek though
[19:34] <IT_Sean> VOY is crap. Complete and utter crap.
[19:34] <johnc-> VOY is my favorite ST :(
[19:34] <Sonny_Jim> Prime directive gets chucked in the bin very early on
[19:35] <IT_Sean> It's crap, johnc-
[19:35] <davor> yeah I heard about Janeway's adventures with bending the Prime Directive as she sees fit
[19:35] <johnc-> I like it, you shut up
[19:35] <davor> over at reddit.com/r/daystrominstitute , great place
[19:35] <davor> for ST discussion
[19:36] <johnc-> see, and I felt that DS9 was some of the worst ST eps around
[19:36] <smd75jr> ok, i said screw it and just finished the reimage
[19:37] <smd75jr> my word sd cards are slow
[19:38] <davor> watched it all the way johnc- ?
[19:38] <johnc-> yes
[19:38] <davor> hm, interesting
[19:38] <davor> I'm a massive DS9 fan
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[19:39] <johnc-> the very last season, iirc, was major wth!
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[19:40] <davor> yeah I dislike what they did with Dukat
[19:40] <davor> I loved Nog's storyline though
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[19:40] <rihnapstor> the heroku deployed app will consume the web service exposed by raspberry pi. so the question is the communication possible?
[19:40] <davor> and I must be the only person in the world to like the Ferengi episodes :p
[19:40] <davor> careful not to spoil stuff for IT_Sean though hehe
[19:40] <johnc-> and I hated the stupid holodeck jimmy dean or whoever
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[19:42] <rihnapstor> I will figure out someway to get pi pass from proxies,firewalls and NAT. but what from heroku instance ?
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[19:46] <lwizardl> okay so the serial number displayed in raspbmc would that be my actual serial number starting with 00
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[19:51] <davor> I loved the dude johnc- :p
[19:51] <davor> also, I got some optocouplers
[19:51] <davor> weeeee
[19:52] <PhonicUK> Is there an existing app that can turn buttons placed on the GPIO into keyboard input?
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[19:58] <rihnapstor> The heroku deployed app will consume the web service exposed by raspberry pi. so the question is the communication possible?
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[20:01] <nid0> is that meant to be a question that stands on its own?
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[20:04] <rihnapstor> hello anyone there
[20:04] <nid0> [19:01] <nid0> is that meant to be a question that stands on its own?
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[20:47] <PipeDale> hifi: you about?
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[20:49] <gordonDrogon> evening...
[20:50] <IT_Sean> afternoon
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[20:51] <garyserj> what command would switch me from rca to hdmi?
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[20:54] <Sonny_Jim> garyserj: It's in config.txt
[20:54] <Sonny_Jim> Or do you want to do it after you've booted?
[20:55] <gordonDrogon> boot with an hdmi display plugged in & turned on.
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[20:57] <theaftermath> out of curiosity, could you switch displays without a reboot?
[20:57] <gordonDrogon> I think you can't ,but I don't have the rune to hand..
[20:58] <gordonDrogon> I think it's the tvservice command.
[20:58] <theaftermath> rune to hand?
[20:59] <gordonDrogon> must be a british expression, I guess.
[20:59] <gordonDrogon> rune - spell, incantation, magic word, etc.
[20:59] <gordonDrogon> to hand: in my hand
[20:59] <gordonDrogon> or in this case, in my head.
[20:59] <theaftermath> I'm american
[20:59] <theaftermath> oh so you think you can but you don't have the command readily available
[20:59] <gordonDrogon> I'm sorry.
[21:00] <gordonDrogon> that's right.
[21:00] <theaftermath> it's cool LOL
[21:02] <theaftermath> anyone experiment with a pi running a webserver? i'm wondering what I should use
[21:02] <pksato> tvservice is not on normal search path. /opt/vc/bin/tvservice
[21:02] <gordonDrogon> I've run up apache as an experiment.
[21:03] <theaftermath> and?
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[21:03] <gordonDrogon> it worked.
[21:03] <theaftermath> speed?
[21:03] <gordonDrogon> along with php & mysql.
[21:03] <gordonDrogon> I used wordpress as a test.
[21:03] <gordonDrogon> it was usable. nothing special.
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[21:03] <theaftermath> was it slow? could the pi be used for anything else while handeling the connections?
[21:03] <theaftermath> oh ok
[21:04] <gordonDrogon> depends on how many connections.
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[21:04] <gordonDrogon> as all it's doing is sucking memory with no connections.
[21:04] <theaftermath> I think I'm gonna try lighttpd. I don't need php or mysql or anything fancy
[21:04] <pksato> depends that php script do.
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[21:04] <gordonDrogon> I've read others using that.
[21:04] <theaftermath> apache seems like overkill
[21:05] <Sonny_Jim> hey gordonDrogon, check this out
[21:05] <pksato> dont enable most of apache modules, only basic httpd.
[21:05] <Sonny_Jim> Some SNES games rely on unitialised memory for their RNG seed
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[21:05] <gordonDrogon> Sonny_Jim, seems somewhat dodgy...
[21:05] <Sonny_Jim> So to get round this, you could write some code that zeros out as much of the memory/registers as possible
[21:06] <Sonny_Jim> Then freezespray all the memory chips so they are as cold as possible
[21:06] <Sonny_Jim> Poweroff, insert game and poweron
[21:06] <Sonny_Jim> Chilling the chips should minimise them losing their state between poweroff and on
[21:06] <gordonDrogon> that means you'd get the same seed every time, so get the same game...
[21:06] <Sonny_Jim> Yup
[21:06] <Sonny_Jim> It's how my bot works
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[21:07] <Sonny_Jim> Right now, it only works if the game uses a lousy RNG and uses the controller input as entropy
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[21:07] <Sonny_Jim> Same inputs = same RNG seed = same game
[21:07] <gordonDrogon> weird. sloppy programming there...
[21:07] <Sonny_Jim> Meh, it's a video game
[21:07] <gordonDrogon> sure, but ..
[21:07] <Sonny_Jim> And there's no other source easily available
[21:07] <Sonny_Jim> No hardware RNG, no clock etc
[21:07] <theaftermath> they weren't exactly trying to future proof it
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[21:08] <gordonDrogon> easy to get a good enough seed by timing the first button push..
[21:08] <Sonny_Jim> That's what 90% of games use
[21:08] <gordonDrogon> ok
[21:08] <gordonDrogon> sometimes reading unmapped memory gives random results too - depends on how they did address decoding.
[21:09] <theaftermath> until somebody figures out that they can just hold the button and get the same seed
[21:09] <gordonDrogon> well - the game should wait & check for that.
[21:09] <Sonny_Jim> Not really theaftermath
[21:09] <Sonny_Jim> You'd have to hit the button at *exactly* the right time
[21:09] <Sonny_Jim> And the resolution is 16.67ms
[21:09] <theaftermath> it would be much simpler to just read a random address though
[21:09] <Sonny_Jim> How do you get that random number for the address though?
[21:09] <theaftermath> not a random address an address that gives a randmish seed
[21:10] <theaftermath> sorry :P
[21:10] <Sonny_Jim> Like I said, uninitialised memory is the only way that's truely random
[21:10] <Sonny_Jim> or registers etc
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[21:11] <theaftermath> besides why would a coder use a button polling technique when they can use a cool hackish way and get better results
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[21:11] <gordonDrogon> except it's not better...
[21:11] <gordonDrogon> and they're just lazy, not cool.
[21:12] <theaftermath> how is it not better?
[21:12] <Sonny_Jim> tbh the RNG routine is probably just part of the SDK that Nintendo provided
[21:14] <theaftermath> since we are on the topic, anybody know anything about an n64 emulator? I saw some people working on it. And I've wanted to work on it myself but never saw much interest.
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[21:54] <XMLnewbi> im trying to backup a Sd card with win32 disk imager. I cant seem to find where its leaving the files. When i click browse it only let me open a file. I type backup in it and the read button works, but it takes 30min and I cant even find where it is saving the files
[21:54] <XMLnewbi> im pretty parniod about loosing this SD card, im trying to clone it
[21:55] <ShorTie> good notes can fix that paranoyia
[21:55] <theaftermath> its saving the the image where the open file window opened
[21:55] <theaftermath> try looking on your desktop or user folder
[21:56] <ShorTie> bash_history is a nice file to save for a quick ruff draft
[21:56] <theaftermath> or searching the whole drive for backup.img
[21:56] <XMLnewbi> when I press the folder it goes to Documents, but it did not save there
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[21:59] <theaftermath> i don't really know then except to searc hthe drive
[21:59] <XMLnewbi> any way it might be doing to the wrong drive? I just searched my home drive and didnt find it. I got about 6tb of other drives I guess I can look. I guess this is a shitty program, im going to look for a linux alternitive
[22:00] <theaftermath> its always worked fine for me.
[22:01] <XMLnewbi> how would one change the directorty it writes too? its just an empty white box for me. doesnt pull up a directory or anything. And when I press the folder It only lets me open an already existing .img file its worked fine for me burning after a download, but this is the first time ive tried to back up
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[22:09] <XMLnewbi> http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=91&t=26463 the second window for me says open rather then save, and does not let me change it bha
[22:09] <bezaban> I'm blow away. This is such an awesome piece of hardware. I can't believe I didn't get one earlier
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[22:10] <bezaban> now all I can think of is what use I'm going to put the rest of the ones I'm going to buy to
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[22:19] <garyserj> bezaban: what uses do you find for the raspberry pi?
[22:20] <bezaban> garyserj: home usage I am thinking a login box behind my firewall powered by the usb port so I don't have to log in correctly. Other ideas are gertboard / piface related to DIY home automation and more.
[22:21] <bezaban> one for a peephole camera, another for a weather station
[22:21] <bezaban> s/correctly/directly/
[22:22] <bezaban> also I want a portable one to go in my equipment bag
[22:23] <ShorTie> login box ?? what is that ??
[22:23] <bezaban> ShorTie: a machine that you log in to, it's about linux service segmentation basically
[22:24] <bezaban> although a lot of people use virtualization for similar needs
[22:24] <ShorTie> i log in to all my boxes when i boot, lol.
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[22:25] <garyserj> ShorTie: at least I understand you!
[22:25] <bezaban> my firewall is a home server/router/workstation, but ideally I would want to move remote logins away from that machine, so I would NAT it to a hardened raspberry enviroment
[22:25] <bezaban> oh sorry :(
[22:26] <garyserj> bezaban: so you log into the box to avoid logging into the firewall?
[22:26] <bezaban> garyserj: exactly. Firewalls should never really be possible to access remotely
[22:26] <garyserj> ah ok, bit of lag
[22:26] <ShorTie> maybe it would be better to have each of those as there own box, in stead of craming it all into 1
[22:26] <garyserj> i'm doing irc through vnc
[22:27] <bezaban> ShorTie: it would, but the WAF (wife acceptance factor) is low for multiple boxes online 24/7
[22:27] <ShorTie> lol, firewall, another useless, memory eating program on a pc
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[22:28] <bezaban> also my home bandwidth isn't really sufficient for putting more machines here
[22:28] <garyserj> and what would you do from the raspberry environment when you log into it? access the firewall-hone server?
[22:28] <garyserj> s/hone/home/
[22:28] <bezaban> ShorTie: I disagree that a firewall is only a waste of resources :)
[22:28] <garyserj> ShorTie: he uses a technical progarm obviously, not a memory eater.
[22:29] <bezaban> garyserj: yeah, a jump box basically, but with a small enviroment that has less attack vectors
[22:29] <bezaban> but I guess it's kind of obvious that I work with computer security :P
[22:29] <bezaban> my home network is completely overkill
[22:29] <garyserj> isn't getting to a log in screen a big attack vector?
[22:30] <garyserj> i'd perhaps think a firewall should restrict who can get to the login screen
[22:30] <bezaban> I only permit key authenticated SSH, and I want remote access
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[22:31] <bezaban> all security is a tradeoff in the end, but with a small hardened enviroment it makes it harder to get further if the login server is compromised. It limits the possible local privilege escalation attacks.
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[22:33] <bezaban> would probably set the memory card read only on such a machine, or even netboot it off the main server
[22:33] <ShorTie> i guess me runnin a totally unsequired wifi is a big no no too ??
[22:33] <bezaban> ShorTie: I wouldn't do that, my wifi is a physically separate network :P
[22:34] <bezaban> but again, it's a little over the top
[22:35] <ShorTie> well, i did lockup the flat panel that shots up the drive way to mac's
[22:35] <bezaban> no access to the wired network and only granted access to services that are strictly needed for wireless clients
[22:35] <ShorTie> but the house is 'connect for a free virus' open to 1 and all
[22:35] <bezaban> once I have some time I'll probably set up a guest wireless and an open one just to see who visits
[22:35] <bezaban> hehe
[22:36] * ShorTie likes the ssid, lol
[22:36] <IT_Sean> i keep my network locked down.
[22:37] <IT_Sean> WPA & MAC addy whitelisting
[22:37] <ShorTie> good boy
[22:37] <bezaban> I think mac filtering is too much of a hassle to maintain for a small return
[22:38] <bezaban> an extra hurdle, but you're past it by sniffing a few packets and running one command
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[22:40] <bezaban> well, two technically
[22:40] <ShorTie> but that makes it an 'intent' then
[22:40] <bezaban> so does cracking your wpa key
[22:40] <Sonny_Jim> Erm
[22:40] <Sonny_Jim> In C, how do I do x to the power of y
[22:40] <Sonny_Jim> x^y?
[22:41] <bezaban> but we're not quite there when it comes to application of law to computers. in the manning trial they argued that using 'wget' was unauthorized access.
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[22:42] <Sonny_Jim> bezaban: Try being locked up for 2 years for non-disclosure of a password
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[22:42] <Sonny_Jim> Here's the kicker, what happens if you truly forget the password
[22:42] <patagonicus> Sonny_Jim: That's XOR. There's double pow(double base, double exponent) in math.h
[22:43] <Sonny_Jim> 2 years for forgetting something, that's pretty harsh
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[22:43] <Sonny_Jim> Right
[22:43] <bezaban> Sonny_Jim: yeah, that's a big issue.
[22:43] <Sonny_Jim> But it is engineering notation for it?
[22:43] <garyserj> how can i switch between my hdmi screen and my rca screen?
[22:44] <Sonny_Jim> patagonicus: Thanks
[22:44] <Sonny_Jim> Huh
[22:44] <bezaban> Sonny_Jim: I have a few encrypted containers and keys I've forgotten the passphrase for
[22:44] <Sonny_Jim> Not in my math.h there isn't
[22:44] <bezaban> that were created for testing
[22:44] <Sonny_Jim> It's already been used as well
[22:44] <Sonny_Jim> The law that is
[22:45] <ShorTie> gardar, shutdown, switch cables and reboot maybe
[22:45] <bezaban> but law isn't quite clear. yet. It's not been tried a lot of places
[22:45] <Sonny_Jim> garyserj: I thought you already got the answer
[22:45] <Sonny_Jim> It's a command line util to do it
[22:45] <garyserj> Sonny_Jim: ages ago somebody mentioned config.txt
[22:45] <garyserj> though i recall seeing a screen where i could press 1,4
[22:45] <garyserj> also config.txt sounds a bit windowy
[22:46] <bezaban> in most cases people aren't encrypting their whole drives and forensic examination is trivial. A few american states have had some shocking verdicts though
[22:46] <bezaban> Sonny_Jim: what is the case you are referring to?
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[22:46] <Sonny_Jim> Do you want it permenant or after booting?
[22:46] <Sonny_Jim> bezaban: Have a look on the wikipedia page about the law, it's on there
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[22:47] <garyserj> Sonny_Jim: permanent? well, a temporary switching would be good
[22:47] <ShorTie> i think the rPi looks for hdmi at boot, if none then it goes to composite
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[22:47] <bezaban> Sonny_Jim: which law? is this part of SOPA/DCMA or Patriot Act?
[22:48] <ShorTie> or that what happens for me with defualts
[22:48] <bezaban> I don't think there is one that explicitly states this yet, it's just legal practice based on other law
[22:48] <bezaban> s
[22:48] <garyserj> i will try vi /boot/config.txt and see what's there but there was a way to switch temporarily
[22:48] <Sonny_Jim> bezaban: google UK password law
[22:48] <Sonny_Jim> I can't remember the specifics I'm afraid, just remember reading a register article about it
[22:49] <bezaban> there is an issue with the fourth ammendment
[22:49] <bezaban> aah right, thanks
[22:49] <atouk> usually a 4th amendment issue based on self incrimination
[22:49] <ShorTie> never messed in config.txt, it just works either way i hook it up
[22:49] <bezaban> uk law. That's a different issue. Some pretty broad terrorist laws there from IRA times
[22:49] <atouk> since there is no actual case law, judges pretty much make their own decisions state by state
[22:51] <garyserj> ShorTie: what if you hook up both?
[22:51] <ShorTie> video
[22:51] <bezaban> atouk: yeah. But the decisions made will become the basis of future laws
[22:51] <ShorTie> hdmi or composite, they just work and switch back and forth
[22:52] <bezaban> which is why we more such cases need to be tried
[22:52] <atouk> no, bases for future cases. laws come out of the legislature which pretty much ignore caselaw or precident
[22:52] <garyserj> ShorTie: I mean what if you hook up both, which does it use?
[22:53] <bezaban> atouk: I was not aware that it worked liked that other places, in my small european country precident is important for legislature
[22:53] <bezaban> IANAL though, just a criminologist with a little background in law
[22:54] <atouk> actually, many laws are created to overturn or stop legal precident
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[22:56] <bezaban> currently my profession is my hobby, but hoping to merge criminology/digital law and computer security at a point
[22:56] <atomi> did you guys see this https://github.com/justincampbell/whipped-cream
[22:58] <garyserj> atouk: precedent
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[22:58] <atouk> this is the internet. spelling is optional
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[22:58] <garyserj> solution to go from hdmi to rca. type sudo reboot at the terminal but don't hit enter. unplug the hdmi screen. reboot. and it goes to the rca screen
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[22:59] <garyserj> i mean after unplug the hdmi screen, hit enter to sudo reboot, thus reboot
[22:59] <garyserj> and it goes to rca screen. so done
[22:59] <bezaban> I just mimiced atouk :P
[23:00] <bezaban> mimicked?
[23:00] <atouk> try mocked. easier to spell
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[23:01] <atouk> as far as mimicked, you don't sound like me at all
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[23:06] <Sonny_Jim> Ah, to answer my question about powers of 2 in C
[23:06] <Sonny_Jim> It's obvious
[23:06] <Sonny_Jim> 1 << x
[23:07] <patagonicus> Sonny_Jim: You didn't ask about powers of two, you just asked about powers. :)
[23:07] <Sonny_Jim> I know
[23:08] <mgottschlag> Sonny_Jim: http://graphics.stanford.edu/~seander/bithacks.html for the pure awesomeness of bit level magic
[23:08] <bezaban> atouk: mimicked the spelling of precendence
[23:09] <bezaban> and I hope you didn't perceive me as mocking
[23:09] <atouk> this is IRC, mocking expected, if not required
[23:10] <bezaban> hehe
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[23:11] <Sonny_Jim> Been awhile since I've messed around with any bitwise stuff
[23:11] <Sonny_Jim> Forgot how 'fun' it can be
[23:11] <Sonny_Jim> It's funny
[23:11] <Sonny_Jim> Earlier on today I was debating whether it's better to have 5 lines of code that work or 50 lines that are verbose
[23:11] <Sonny_Jim> I was of the opinion that CPU cycles are cheap, ergo do it in 50
[23:11] <Sonny_Jim> But now I'm writing interrupt code, I'm going the other way
[23:11] <Sonny_Jim> I mean, for example:
[23:11] <Sonny_Jim> I could write pow(2)
[23:11] <Sonny_Jim> or 1 << 2
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[23:12] <atouk> 50 vs 5 doesn't matter once the compiler hits it
[23:12] <mgottschlag> my experience is that code is always only well understandable for a specific audience
[23:12] <piney0> assuming the compiler is perfect
[23:13] <mgottschlag> operating system/low level people will be confused by the pow(2), even though they will immediately understand the 1<<2
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[23:13] <Sonny_Jim> Sure
[23:13] <Sonny_Jim> It's a good topic with coders, as everyone has a different idea
[23:14] <Sonny_Jim> I asked that question in a emulator channel and it was all
[23:14] <Sonny_Jim> "Do it in 5, it's bloatware otherwise"
[23:14] <Sonny_Jim> But I think nowadays you are right, let the compiler do it
[23:14] <atouk> bloatware is executable size, not code size
[23:15] <Sonny_Jim> CPU cycles are cheap and it's more important to have code that is readable down the line by someone else
[23:15] <Sonny_Jim> Sure
[23:15] <mgottschlag> atouk: most compilers will still have a hard time optimizing math function calls away, unless the argument is constant
[23:16] <atouk> optimizing math on flats, etc is half voodoo, half science and half experience
[23:16] <atouk> (floats)
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[23:17] <mgottschlag> but then, I am also an operating system guy - those usually think that their software is too important to run slow (and, to a large degree, sloppiness in the kernel can be really bad)
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[23:18] <mgottschlag> anyways, gn8
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[23:32] <Firehopper> http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/geeky-gadgets/~3/nXnRjVQxghA/ < 3d printed pizza!
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[23:45] <eightfold> howdy. i installed xfce4 via apt-get. it has worked fine. this time, when i booted and chose startxfce4 in slim i got no menu bar
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[23:48] <eightfold> i was able to start it via right clicking the desktop
[23:49] <eightfold> but a message says "modyfing the panel is not allowed because the panel is running i kiosk mode"
[23:50] <eightfold> perhaps these question should go in the xfce channel
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[23:55] <upd> hi, which board should i use if i want to controll 4 motors
[23:56] <ShadowJK> eightfold, my guess: filesystem is in read-only mode
[23:56] <ShadowJK> It's only a guess though.
[23:56] <ShadowJK> A wild guess.
[23:56] <eightfold> ShadowJK: oh… i dropped the sd card on the floor before booting.. let's have a look.
[23:58] <ShadowJK> Shouldnt be an issue (dropping)
[23:58] <ShadowJK> cat /proc/mounts should have "rw" or "ro" listed though
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