#raspberrypi IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2013-10-17

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[0:02] <ShorTie> this pi pov uses no transistors, it's preaty nifty it looks like http://www.thebox.myzen.co.uk/Raspberry/Magic_Wand.html
[0:02] <ShorTie> just a bunch of leds
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[0:06] <stevarino> Thanks ShorTie, theaftermath. watching a lot of youtube videos right now
[0:07] <stevarino> where i think i'm getting stuck is that i have a transistor kit (like 15 types of them) and am unsure which to use. since i don't get transistors yet, transistor datasheets are scary
[0:07] <stevarino> their naming convention makes absolutely no sense to me.
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[0:15] <ShorTie> a good book or wiki might be better then youtube
[0:15] <ShorTie> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transistor might help
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[0:16] <theaftermath> what shortie said
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[1:27] <BuffyNZ> Hi folks, I have a PI B that I just did an upgrade on. Post upgrade the lightdm starts but I am unable to log in. It accepts the login, tried to start the session, but then drops back to the X login prompt. The only error I can find is in the X.org.0.log with the message: (EE) FBDEV(0): FBIOBLANK: Operation not permitted. I have googled that error but have not found anything relevant.
[1:28] <BuffyNZ> I am running wheezy.
[1:29] <sney> yeah, mine has that fbdev error as well, it's just part of X's autodetect process
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[1:30] <sney> have you tried with a new user profile? it's possible your existing profile got gunked up somehow
[1:30] <BuffyNZ> sney: Nope, I have not, will give it a go.
[1:32] <BuffyNZ> sney: Good call, that did the trick. The new user can log in fine.
[1:32] <BuffyNZ> Thanks!
[1:32] <sney> no problem
[1:32] <debenham> check ~/.xsession-errors - might say something
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[1:35] <BuffyNZ> debenham:A few errors in there, looks like the first is: gl_surface_glx.cc(57)] glxQueryVersion failed
[1:36] <debenham> that would be okay - it's more the last errors that might say more ;)
[1:37] <BuffyNZ> Creating a gist of the error log
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[1:38] <BuffyNZ> I created a gist with the errors at https://gist.github.com/StuartWhelan/7016866
[1:38] * BuffyNZ is now known as StuartWhelan
[1:38] <Bertrix> Hello, I discovered you can easily increase the length of the rasPi camera board
[1:38] <Bertrix> a 3m flat cable works without problems
[1:38] <Bertrix> Will need to check for EMI though and maybe shield it
[1:39] <Bertrix> Was really surprised
[1:39] <sney> StuartWhelan: was that the xsession-errors from your new account or the one that failed to log in?
[1:39] <debenham> BuffyNZ: the errors just show that the X server went away without warning :(
[1:39] <debenham> something killed the session
[1:39] <StuartWhelan> sney: That is the account that can't log in.
[1:39] <debenham> try a new user, and if that works then clean up the session for the failing user
[1:40] <StuartWhelan> The new user can log in okay. Looking up how to clean up a user session. Thanks!
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[1:41] <Bertrix> Pity the camera board is so big
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[1:44] <StuartWhelan> All fixed, moving my .Xauthority sideways fixed it. Thanks again folks, appreciate the help.
[1:44] <StuartWhelan> Now back to trying to find a way to get the Jenkins wall display to work on my PI. Anyone played with that?
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[1:53] <sney> never heard of it
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[3:56] <gn0> hi
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[4:10] <gn0> useful question.. is there any forum or something where I can post a question about rasperry (a problem probably related with hardware/electronics) and get some feedback from the community?
[4:10] <pksato> the official forum?
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[4:11] <gn0> good answer.. and where is it?
[4:13] <pksato> http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/
[4:15] <gn0> Thanks pksato :)
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[5:29] <atomi> juggler of d's
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[6:06] <[Saint]> atomi: ...new band name?
[6:07] <[Saint]> d-juggler is an amusing potential insult. I'm puttin' that in the bank. Thanks.
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[6:14] <atomi> haha
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[13:02] <Kake_Fisk> Hi
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[13:03] <Kake_Fisk> Do I need to buy a separate power supply to the raspberry pi or is it included?
[13:03] <Vostok> it's not
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[13:03] <Vostok> you can use your phone charger if it's got enough juice
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[13:04] <Kake_Fisk> Oh, that would be very convenient
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[13:05] <Kake_Fisk> And the raspberry doesn't come with any kind of wifi? I would have to buy my own adapter?
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[13:05] <bacobart> yes
[13:05] <Kake_Fisk> Ah, okay
[13:05] <bacobart> and you will probably need an usb hub as the raspberry probably will not be able to deliver the power needed to power a wifi adaptor
[13:05] <bacobart> adapter
[13:06] <Kake_Fisk> :o
[13:06] <bacobart> it differs per adapter
[13:06] <bacobart> but the ones that do not require an usb hub are few
[13:06] <bacobart> and if you want to connect anything else you will probably need one anyway
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[13:08] <Kake_Fisk> So an USB hub has it's own power supply?
[13:09] <bacobart> yes
[13:09] <bacobart> well not all, so you would need to buy a powered usb hub:P
[13:09] <bacobart> else it kinda defeats the purpose;)
[13:09] <Kake_Fisk> yeah
[13:10] <Kake_Fisk> Do we have any number on how much power the usb port gives?
[13:10] <Kake_Fisk> I really didn't want this to cost too much
[13:11] <Kake_Fisk> I just want to host a server from home
[13:12] <ozzzy> you can't provide very much current from the USB port
[13:12] <bacobart> then use cabled lan ;)
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[13:12] <Kake_Fisk> But a PC uses too much power
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[13:12] <ShadowJK> about 200 - 400 mA available. Recommend you stay below 200mA combined power draw on usb ports.
[13:12] <bacobart> you will need atleast a 1amp (but 1.5 is better) adapter to power the pi
[13:12] <Kake_Fisk> I just want something like a SheevaPlug. And then I found the raspberry
[13:15] <ShadowJK> sheeva has a little bit more output power available
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[13:15] <ShadowJK> although personally I use it with a powered usb hub too.
[13:15] <Kake_Fisk> If I got a sheeva, I would have used ethernet cable
[13:16] <bacobart> why not use ethernet cable on the pi?
[13:16] <Kake_Fisk> Because with a sheeva I could just stick it in the wall right besides the router and it would take up no space
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[13:17] <ShadowJK> and you cant with rpi?
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[13:17] <Kake_Fisk> No, can I?
[13:17] <Kake_Fisk> I would have to mount the box to the wall then
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[13:18] <ShadowJK> oh you mean in the wall outlet?
[13:18] <Kake_Fisk> The router is in a bit inconvenient place in our apartment :|
[13:18] <Kake_Fisk> Yes
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[13:18] <ShadowJK> Ah
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[13:18] <ShadowJK> I've never done that with my sheeva, it's kinda huge and would block outlets..
[13:18] <ShadowJK> unplugging the socket and use a cable was first thing I did, heh.
[13:19] <Kake_Fisk> But you plug it in in such a way it doesn't block :)
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[13:19] <ShadowJK> The plug part on sheeva is removable, once you remove it, there a standard 8 shaped socket for a power cable
[13:20] <Kake_Fisk> oh
[13:20] <Kake_Fisk> I just want a solution though. I could go for the raspberry pi, but my stupid router only have two ethernet ports
[13:21] <Kake_Fisk> I might have to call my ISP and ask if I could change it in a better one
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[13:33] <Kake_Fisk> Why would I want an hdmi cable when buying a raspberry?
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[13:34] <Ben64> for video and sound
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[13:35] <Kake_Fisk> Do you see the operating system that way?
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[13:38] <mikroskeem> hi
[13:38] <mikroskeem> anyone got kernel panics after updating rpi firmware in archlinux?
[13:38] <mikroskeem> at 2th second
[13:39] <mikroskeem> refers to smsc
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[13:43] <Kake_Fisk> I found a decent usb hub, but it states: "Supports Windows Vista/XP/ME/2000/98, and Mac OS" That means it will not work on the raspberry, right?
[13:43] <Vostok> it does not mean that
[13:44] <Kake_Fisk> What does it mean then? :|
[13:44] <Vostok> it means that it works on those mentioned operating systems
[13:44] <Davespice> Kake_Fisk: that is just marketing
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[13:45] <Davespice> USB itself is a standard protocol, the USB device needs to be supported by the OS
[13:45] <Davespice> the OS doesn't need to be supported by the USB device
[13:45] <Kake_Fisk> ohh, right
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[13:45] <Kake_Fisk> Thanks for the clarificatiobn
[13:45] <Davespice> so you'll probably find it will work fine
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[13:46] <Davespice> since the USB on the Pi is the same standard USB as everything else
[13:46] <Kake_Fisk> yeah
[13:47] <Kake_Fisk> I'm up in 77$ now :p
[13:47] <Davespice> you can also check here; http://elinux.org/RPi_VerifiedPeripherals#Powered_USB_Hubs
[13:47] <Kake_Fisk> Wondering if worth it or not
[13:48] <mikroskeem> anyone got kernel panics after updating rpi firmware in archlinux?
[13:48] <mikroskeem> sorry for spam but nobody ansvers
[13:48] <mikroskeem> *answers
[13:48] <CD-R> Then I guess at this point in time, nobody is around who has, sorry.
[13:48] <Davespice> mikroskeem: I think most people on here are using Raspbian
[13:49] <[7]> mikroskeem: an exact panic message might help with diagnosing...
[13:49] <Davespice> mikroskeem: you can ask here though; http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewforum.php?f=53
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[13:56] <Kake_Fisk> What is your uses of raspberry?
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[13:58] <mikroskeem> Kake_Fisk: jtag, flashing avr etc.
[13:59] <Davespice> me? or is that open to everyone?
[13:59] <Kake_Fisk> everyone
[13:59] <Kake_Fisk> I'm just wondering if it's worth buying it
[13:59] <Davespice> have a look at my blog; http://blogs.arcsoftwareconsultancy.com/pi/
[13:59] <mikroskeem> rpi is kinda swiss-army knife 4me :)
[14:00] <Davespice> the two main uses are as a media center or for a low power dedicated computer
[14:00] <Kake_Fisk> Do I need some extra hardware for media center?
[14:00] <Davespice> no, just hdmi lead and network cable
[14:00] <Davespice> obviously sd card to hold xbmc on as well
[14:01] <Kake_Fisk> I see
[14:01] <Kake_Fisk> I'm very unsure whether to get network cable or wifi
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[14:01] <Davespice> well that is about convenience
[14:02] <Davespice> up to you really
[14:02] <Kake_Fisk> If wifi works just as good, I'll go for that
[14:02] <Kake_Fisk> I had to buy an extra usb hub for it though, but :|
[14:02] <Davespice> Kake_Fisk: if you want something that "just works" you might be better off with a tablet, the Pi is a device where its user needs to poseess the knowledge required
[14:03] <Kake_Fisk> a tablet?
[14:03] <Davespice> yeah like an iPad
[14:03] <Kake_Fisk> o_O
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[14:03] <Kake_Fisk> Why would I want an iPad? :o
[14:03] <Davespice> because it "just works"
[14:03] <Kake_Fisk> hehe
[14:04] <Davespice> this is the thing... I'm just trying to warn you, if you think about the Pi like an appliance, like an iPad, you might have a bad experience
[14:04] <Kake_Fisk> But I want a low power computer to act as a server
[14:04] <Davespice> okat thats fine
[14:04] <Davespice> the Pi is an ideal thing then
[14:05] <Davespice> I thought you might be getting one for your kids or something for Christmas
[14:05] <Kake_Fisk> I just require it to be stable and work as it should. I know it might not be as straight forward as an iPad ;)
[14:05] <Kake_Fisk> I don't have too much money either, so I don't want to do a bad buy
[14:05] * Davespice nods
[14:05] <Davespice> well, I tell you what then
[14:06] <Davespice> just get the Pi itself only, and then if you find you want to do more stuff that required USB hubs etc
[14:06] <Davespice> then you can cross that bridge when you come to it, in the mean time you can evaluate the Pi for your needs
[14:06] <Davespice> you've probably got a spare sd card, keyboard and mouse lying around right?
[14:07] <Kake_Fisk> But I would need a case at least?
[14:07] <Davespice> not really no
[14:07] <Davespice> I use mine without cases
[14:07] <Davespice> they're quite sturdy and well built
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[14:08] <Davespice> but cases are quite cheap anyway, check this site; http://shop.pimoroni.com/
[14:08] <Davespice> the wood one is nice :)
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[14:09] <Davespice> they even do a USB hub shaped like a Raspberry lol :)
[14:09] <Kake_Fisk> oh :p
[14:10] <Kake_Fisk> It would be so fragile if I didn't have a case :p
[14:10] <Kake_Fisk> And so prone to damage by dust
[14:10] * Davespice shrugs
[14:10] <Davespice> I've been using them without cases since April of 2012, not broken one yet
[14:11] <Kake_Fisk> But it's a nice advice. But I would miss out on free shipping from amazon then :p
[14:11] <Davespice> my only point is that they're not 100% necessary, which is why them come without them
[14:12] <Kake_Fisk> Yeah :)
[14:13] <Kake_Fisk> It's a good thing you can buy rpi without anything else at all. Makes it affordable
[14:13] <Davespice> yeah, that was the whole idea
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[14:13] <Davespice> to make it the same price as a text book
[14:14] <Davespice> but apparently text books cost a lot more than that... from what I hear
[14:14] <Kake_Fisk> yeah
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[14:33] <shakaponk> hey guyz, i'm new to raspberry and got it yesterday. i'm having some problems to set up putty/cygwin/X. what or how would i start an X11 application in putty?
[14:33] <bacobart> http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ug/using-remote-apps.html
[14:34] <Encrypt> shakaponk, The best is to avoid remote X11 ;)
[14:34] <shakaponk> Encrypt: yeah, i can use the shell, but i wanted to explore a little bit, and dont want to attach a display :-) but i guess x11 is not like a remote desktop
[14:35] <shakaponk> bacobart: thx
[14:35] <pksato> shakaponk: on putty set X11 forwarding, nad start X11 server on display 10
[14:35] <pksato> or not.
[14:36] <pksato> I never done it on windows.
[14:36] <bacobart> you do not need an X server to explore the raspberry pi
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[14:36] <bacobart> everything you need can be accessed via command line interface (putty)
[14:37] <pksato> if need some like remote desktop, try x11vnc.
[14:37] <bacobart> but if you want a remote x environment you will need cygwin/x and setup the x11 forwarding in putty
[14:37] <Kake_Fisk> Oh, yeah, how do I communicated with rpi?
[14:37] <bacobart> ssh
[14:37] <shakaponk> ok, thx for your input.
[14:38] <Kake_Fisk> :o
[14:38] <bacobart> the raspberry distro is just like any other linux distro, you can access/setup everything remotely via ssh, or connect a screen via hdmi and use a desktop interface
[14:39] <pksato> or, if need only remote gui, use vncserver on RPi. That create a 'virtual' display. x11vnc attach to real display, vncserver create a virtual display.
[14:39] <bacobart> if you want a webinterface to manage the pi you will need to configure and install it yourself
[14:39] <shakaponk> another question: is pi capable of running mysql/jboss/samba/some email server? all together?
[14:39] <bacobart> jboss might be a bit heavy and thus slow
[14:40] <bacobart> but the others are not a problem
[14:40] <shakaponk> apache should be no problem too, right?
[14:40] <bacobart> no
[14:41] <shakaponk> thx
[14:41] <bacobart> but java stuff is memory hungry and cpu intensive so don't expect it to be fast
[14:41] <shakaponk> ok, i'll try it and then see if it will work out. thx a lot
[14:41] <Encrypt> shakaponk, Mine is running: web server, printer server, file server, mail server
[14:42] <Encrypt> And underclocked to 100MHz when it idles \o/
[14:42] <shakaponk> Encrypt: what web server?
[14:42] <Encrypt> NginX \o/
[14:42] <Encrypt> (But... well... static HTML content :p)
[14:42] <shakaponk> aaah :-)
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[15:01] <steve_rox> Encrypt , you managed to underclock the rpi on idle?
[15:03] <Encrypt> Yes
[15:04] <Encrypt> Apparently, it's not worth doing it
[15:04] <Encrypt> But it is fun :p
[15:04] <steve_rox> wouldent that save power on idle?
[15:04] <Encrypt> Theoretically, yes, a bit.
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[15:04] <steve_rox> but not enough?
[15:05] <steve_rox> that lan chip takes a lot im sure based on head
[15:05] <steve_rox> heat
[15:05] <Encrypt> Not that much
[15:05] <Encrypt> I didn't calculate but people here will tell you that's not worth it
[15:05] <steve_rox> ah well it was fun to try :-)
[15:07] <bezaban> cpufreq?
[15:07] <steve_rox> brb soon maybe
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[15:10] <Encrypt> stepcut, bezaban, http://pastebin.com/NMGY7Gry
[15:10] <Encrypt> Here are the instructions
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[15:22] <wizo> hi, I managed to get my printer detected and I can see it when i do a sudo lpinfo -v, I see that the lp command requires a printer name, my question is how do I derive the printer name?
[15:23] <wizo> i tried lp -d /dev/usb/lp0 and also lp -d <long line that lpinfo returned> but both failed
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[15:26] <wizo> it's a usb printer connected directly to the pi
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[16:39] <tig|> 'nings all
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[16:53] <SpeedEvil> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/10pcs-Durable-3M-Waterproof-Digital-Temperature-Temp-Sensor-Probe-DS18b20-vh9-/321227836307
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[16:56] <Jusii> not a bad price
[16:57] <SpeedEvil> I have no opinion on the seller or the accuracy of his descriptiooons
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[16:58] <Jusii> well you can get just the sensor for under dollar
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[17:03] <SpeedEvil> True.
[17:03] <SpeedEvil> But wiring it up into an actual waterproof lead is a bit annoying.
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[17:04] <Jusii> tell me about it, I've made around 40 of those :)
[17:04] <Jusii> didnt occure to me to look ebay for ready made
[17:04] <Jusii> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/10pcs-DS18b20-Waterproof-Temperature-Sensors-Temperature-Transducer-T1K-/380617471460?pt=UK_BOI_Electrical_Components_Supplies_ET&hash=item589e91b5e4
[17:05] <lordfuoco> Hi to everyone.
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[17:27] <shakaponk> how much memory can i assign to jboss on 512mb raspberry?
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[17:29] <lordfuoco> In a normal server you have to asign max 75% of memory to jboss, but why jboss and not tomcat?
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[17:30] <shakaponk> lordfuoco: because i want to run enterprise applications on it
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[17:38] <patagonicus> Is it just me or does "Enterprise" mostly mean "eats a lot of RAM and uses SQL/XML/$FOO where something would have been perfectly fine"?
[17:39] <lordfuoco> I think is just you :D I mean, sometimes your definition is perfect, but not always
[17:39] <shakaponk> sometimes there are just requirements.... :-)
[17:41] <lordfuoco> In my experience, outside of raspberry ofc, Enterprise is useful when you have complex project and have to merge them and such
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[17:58] <dheeraj> Hiii alll
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[17:59] <RahulAN> I got my rpi working..!! :))
[18:00] <RahulAN> I want to bluez in Rpi.. How can i..??
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[18:08] <Encrypt> RahulAN, What do you want to do?
[18:09] <tig|> well for a start you will need a bluetooth dongle :)
[18:10] <shiftplusone> RahulAN, what have you done so far and what's the problem?
[18:10] <biberao> hi
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[18:16] <RahulAN> shiftplusone: I connected Rpi with my laptop
[18:16] <RahulAN> by Ssh
[18:17] <shiftplusone> RahulAN, in terms of bluez
[18:17] <RahulAN> I need bluez stack to access bluetooth by Bluez
[18:17] <RahulAN> but i hav problem , that how do i connect it to interbet
[18:18] <RahulAN> but i hav problem , that how do i connect it to internet
[18:18] <RahulAN> as i hav USB internet Dongle
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[18:18] <Kake_Fisk> Which wifi adapter do you reccommend?
[18:18] <shiftplusone> the same way you normally would on any other linux pc.
[18:19] <RahulAN> as i hav USB internet Dongle
[18:19] <Kake_Fisk> But which one?
[18:19] <Kake_Fisk> Oh, an usb router?
[18:20] <shiftplusone> Kake_Fisk, you have joined in the middle of a conversation about usb wifi dongles.
[18:20] <RahulAN> Kake_Fisk: Tata Photon
[18:20] <Kake_Fisk> Oh xD
[18:20] <Kake_Fisk> haha
[18:20] <shiftplusone> heh
[18:20] <Kake_Fisk> Edimax is popular on Amazon, so I might buy that one
[18:21] <shiftplusone> I have seen people recommend it
[18:21] <shiftplusone> i think
[18:21] <shiftplusone> Davespice, was that the one?
[18:21] <tig|> Kake_Fisk: I have an edimax one that I think is a Ralink RT5370 Wireless Adapter chipset
[18:21] <tig|> (if I have just done lsusb on the right pi)
[18:21] <Davespice> Edimax EW-7811UN Wireless 802.11b/g/n 150Mbps Nano USB Adaptor
[18:22] <Kake_Fisk> Ah, nice
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[18:22] <Davespice> thats the one I use
[18:22] <Davespice> I also have an access point running on it
[18:22] <Kake_Fisk> ou
[18:23] <Kake_Fisk> So my total price is 100 $ now xD
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[18:23] <Davespice> crikey really?
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[18:24] <Davespice> are you buying keyboards and mice and everything?
[18:24] <Kake_Fisk> Raspberry Pi, SD card, Edimax wifi adapter, Case, USB hub, Ethernet cable
[18:25] <SpeedEvil> Is this to go outside?
[18:25] <Davespice> ah right I see
[18:25] <Kake_Fisk> outside?
[18:25] <Davespice> for me I had most of the other bit laying around
[18:25] <Davespice> bits*
[18:26] <shiftplusone> ethernet cable AND a wifi adapter?
[18:26] <Kake_Fisk> The adapter is just 10 $ and I think it will be extremely convenient
[18:27] <tig|> shiftplusone: well it makes life easier :)
[18:27] <Kake_Fisk> Ethernet cable is just something I should have, isn't it?
[18:27] <Kake_Fisk> I never had one
[18:27] * shiftplusone arches eyebrow
[18:27] <shiftplusone> ah well
[18:27] <Kake_Fisk> I'm buying 100 ft. and with crimp tool
[18:28] <Kake_Fisk> CAT6
[18:28] <tig|> shiftplusone: running a headless pi I have found the easiest way to get wifi running was slam a network cable in and then apt-get install wicd-curses
[18:28] <tig|> Kake_Fisk: what? why?
[18:28] <tig|> Kake_Fisk: are you cabling an office?
[18:28] <shiftplusone> I found seriel better
[18:28] <shiftplusone> *Serial
[18:28] * SpeedEvil crimps one off.
[18:28] * SpeedEvil gets the next connector out of the box.
[18:28] <Kake_Fisk> No, but that way I never have to care about buying ethernet cables again
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[18:29] <tig|> also for anything to do with the pi cat5e would be easier and cheaper to work with
[18:29] <Kake_Fisk> And if I were to buy an CAT6 cable in Norway, I would have to pay the same
[18:29] <Kake_Fisk> tig|: But the price is so reasonable compared to cat5 cables in Norway xD
[18:30] <Kake_Fisk> Cables are as expensive as unicorn hide.
[18:30] <tig|> unless your network cards are over 1G there isn't much value in going above cat5e certainly for home use
[18:30] <Kake_Fisk> But is there any reason in going under? I would probably end up paying either the same or more
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[18:30] * SpeedEvil sighs ant looks at his 2.4M DSL
[18:30] <Kake_Fisk> hehe
[18:32] <cdan> back again
[18:32] <tig|> well cat6 is more tightly twisted and is bit more fiddly to crimp but it is up to you
[18:33] <Kake_Fisk> :o
[18:33] <Kake_Fisk> I didn't know that
[18:33] <Kake_Fisk> I found cat5 a bit hard to crimp, but I got the hang of it eventually
[18:34] <RahulAN> I had downloaded the file on my linux machine
[18:35] <RahulAN> Now how to send it via Ssh
[18:35] <RahulAN> ??
[18:35] <lord4163> Kake_Fisk: you have that crap in the middle of the cable ofcourse, it's not favourite job to make internet cables :P
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[18:35] <lord4163> RahulAN: you mount it in your filemanager?
[18:35] <Kake_Fisk> I didn't completely understand what you meant there, sorry
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[18:36] <RahulAN> lord4163: To whom do i mount..???
[18:37] <lord4163> RahulAN: Your file manager, nautilus or whatever. Connect to server -> Select SSH
[18:37] <lord4163> RahulAN: http://linuxers.org/sites/default/files/content/misc/nautilus-ssh4.png
[18:38] <Kake_Fisk> Is Amazon a good site for buying electronics?
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[18:38] <lord4163> Kake_Fisk: Uhm CAT6 has these seperators in the middle of the cable.
[18:39] <Kake_Fisk> oh
[18:39] <Kake_Fisk> Isn't that a good thing?
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[18:52] <RahulAN> How to assign ip address to eth0..??
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[18:54] <lord4163> Kake_Fisk: yes it is, but can make it harder, also they are thicker because of that.
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[18:57] <AndreasEri> Hello, does anyone here know if i can connect this IR(?) power controller to the gpio in some way? http://i42.tinypic.com/5b4s8y.jpg
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[19:03] <SpeedEvil> AndreasEri: can you find a datasheet for the chip>
[19:03] <SpeedEvil> Do you own a scope?
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[19:08] <AndreasEri> I do not own any datasheet or anything. Only the ir controller and the power adapters. Does this give any idea? http://sv.tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2j1oc2e&s=5
[19:09] <cdan> is it possible to search in a single topic on the Arduino forum ?
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[19:11] <AndreasEri> sure
[19:11] <AndreasEri> thanks
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[19:17] <Kake_Fisk> I have to pay 134 $ with import :p
[19:18] <Kake_Fisk> Not sure if the ethernet cable is worth the extra dollars
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[19:24] <henna> I'm running into a problem that my raspberry pi only displays gray&white anymore after booting (during boot it displays color).
[19:25] <henna> I've tried reinstalling it and switching the sdcard with OS to another pi but they both have the same problem
[19:25] <henna> it's connect to the TV with an hdmi cable
[19:25] <henna> anybody know where to start troubleshooting?
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[19:28] <pksato> henna: try hdmi boost on config.txt
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[19:31] <henna> pksato: is that likely to damage the screen?
[19:31] <ln-> does the camera appear as a Video4Linux device or something proprietary?
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[19:33] <pksato> henna: ? damage?
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[19:36] <henna> I remember being told configuring a screen on linux was tricky as it could damage the screen (like 15y ago)
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[19:37] <pksato> valid for some old CRT monitor without out of sync protection.
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[19:41] <Kake_Fisk> My cellphone charger is output: 5.0V, 2A is that good?
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[19:42] <pksato> Kake_Fisk: specification is ok. if good, only testing.
[19:42] <Kake_Fisk> Oh
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[19:43] <Kake_Fisk> Doesn't it always give what it promises, or?
[19:43] <henna> right, I changed channels on the tv a bit and now it's back to color :)
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[20:08] <rawss> Anyone help me out with a image question. I have a 4gb SD card with all my pi goodness on it and I would like to make an image to send to someone, is there a way to image just whats on the card? currently if i image with DD i get a 4gb image, i know i am not using close to that.
[20:09] <sney> partimage
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[20:09] <hifi> or compress it
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[20:09] <hifi> empty space has a pretty good compression ratio
[20:10] <hifi> (if it's actually zero and not free'd blocks)
[20:11] <pksato> fill free space with zeros. dd if=/dev/zero of=zeros; rm zeros
[20:12] <pksato> umount, and make a dump of sd, and compress with bz2 or 7zip.
[20:13] <sney> OR just use partimage and don't do all this extra nonsense
[20:14] <shiftplusone> +1 for partimage
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[20:15] <shiftplusone> it's what clonezilla uses, so you get all of the advantages of using clonezilla without having to reboot to a livecd
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[20:15] <shiftplusone> I didn't know you could get it separately though, I thought it was just a part of clonezilla
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[20:24] <rawss> can partimage be compiled in osx?
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[21:01] <justaguy> Dear raspberry, thanks for being able to use my old USB webcam and record 24/7 , so i could finally proof it to some guys in my streets that it is their dog taking a crap in my garden each morning
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[21:03] <IT_Sean> justaguy: Best use for a raspi EVER
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[21:05] <justaguy> IT_Sean: indeed
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[21:06] <rikkib> Make the RPi electrocute the mutt
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[21:08] <atouk> rpi controlled anti mutt sentry gun
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[21:10] <rikkib> micro wave gun... Fry the mutt on the spot
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[21:11] <atouk> fried mutt is probobly worse for the lawn than the poop
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[21:19] <steve_rox> your not ment to fry mutts you know :-P
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[21:50] <Kake_Fisk> Do rpi have internal storage?
[21:51] <sney> no
[21:51] <Vostok> no
[21:51] <sney> just a sd card slot, and usb ports
[21:51] <IT_Sean> And the SD is your boot volume
[21:51] <Kake_Fisk> Yeah, was just wondering if I had to install the os on the card or internal memory
[21:52] <IT_Sean> there is no internal storage. OS goes on the SD
[21:52] <Kake_Fisk> Yeah, I got it :)
[21:52] <IT_Sean> :)
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[21:53] <mgottschlag> Kake_Fisk: the pi's only storage is the sd card
[21:53] <mgottschlag> ( ;) )
[21:53] <Kake_Fisk> hehe
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[21:55] <atouk> and most importantly, you need an SD card to boot.
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[21:56] <Kake_Fisk> Do you really? Doesn't the the rpi boot it's own bios thing before booting the os?
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[21:58] <bezaban> is there a bios to access?
[21:58] <bezaban> good question, not noticed anything. Obviously there is something, but does it have a user configurable menu, or otherwise accessible configuration options?
[21:59] <shiftplusone> no, just config.txt
[21:59] <Kake_Fisk> It most likely doesn't have an interface, but doesn't it need some kind of firmware to start the os?
[21:59] <IT_Sean> No configurable "bios"
[21:59] <atouk> (not sure if serious) But anyway, the bios is loaded onto the boot sector of the SD when you create your image
[22:00] <shiftplusone> atouk, what?
[22:00] <atouk> the .elf files
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[22:01] <shiftplusone> what does the boot sector have to do with it?
[22:01] <mgottschlag> Kake_Fisk: there is some "bootloader" in ROM on the chip
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[22:01] <Kake_Fisk> yeh
[22:01] <mgottschlag> which even has code to read the FAT12 partition, but everything is hardcoded
[22:01] <atouk> bootloader != bios
[22:02] <Kake_Fisk> Yeah, I probably mix up my terms :)
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[22:04] <Kake_Fisk> And one very important thing. Is it okay to have this turned on in my bedroom. Does it make any annoying noise or lights?
[22:04] <atouk> no noise, lights are minimal
[22:04] <Kake_Fisk> Ah, sounds good
[22:04] <Kake_Fisk> Because I need it to be on at all times, I want to run a small server on it
[22:05] <Kake_Fisk> Anybody having any experience with running servers on it?
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[22:05] <atouk> a few tiny leds that are about as bright as the charging led on a cell phone
[22:05] <atouk> runs apache/mysql just fine
[22:05] <Kake_Fisk> :)
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[22:06] <atouk> http://69.126.35.213:8000/
[22:06] <Mortvert> i run thttpd
[22:06] <Kake_Fisk> With all the accessories the price came on 105 $ + import fee. Compared to how much money I have, it's quite expensive ^^
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[22:07] <Kake_Fisk> atouk: Ou, nice. Are you hosting that?
[22:07] <sney> it's fine for a server with a low number of clients and/or nothing particularly heavy running server-side, like convoluted PHP stuff
[22:08] <sney> but don't expect it to do as well as, say, an x86 desktop with the same raw specs otherwise
[22:08] <atouk> that's on a pi
[22:08] <Kake_Fisk> atouk: I noticed it took some time to get the page. Is that because of the pi?
[22:09] <atouk> probobly. not the fastest server out there
[22:09] <atouk> but for 35 bucks, such a deal
[22:09] <Kake_Fisk> I see
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[22:09] <Kake_Fisk> Where did you get the pi status page from?
[22:10] <atouk> built it
[22:11] <Kake_Fisk> Oh, nice
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[22:11] <atouk> link at bottom of page with code. however, the source for the meter changed their free package and the meter code is no lionger included, but rest will run
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[22:12] <atouk> just havent' gotten around to redoing it
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[22:12] <Kake_Fisk> I see
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[22:18] <Kake_Fisk> Are there any other things I should buy when I buy the rpi? I'm buying usb hub, case, wifi adapter and sd card
[22:19] <atouk> bigest issue people have is power supply
[22:19] <Kake_Fisk> I checked my power supply. It is 5V and 2A
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[22:33] <[Saint]> Kake_Fisk: well, that's a bit general. The biggest thing is a /stable/ power supply.
[22:33] <Kake_Fisk> Oh, what would that imply?
[22:33] <[Saint]> Its no good if its 5V @ 2A if it wiggles and drops down to ~4A or so.
[22:34] <[Saint]> (actually, I think there's only .25A room wiggle either side)
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[22:35] <Kake_Fisk> Which means I will be kinda safe
[22:35] <Kake_Fisk> ?*
[22:35] <atouk> not the amperage that's important. some supplys struggle with current pull, and voltage drops. I believe at 4.2 v the pi fails
[22:36] <Kake_Fisk> oh
[22:36] <[Saint]> Ah, gees. Yes. Heh, I just woke up.
[22:36] <atouk> problems don't appear until you start plugging current hungry things into the usb like wifi
[22:36] <Kake_Fisk> How could I possibly know whether or not my supply is stable?
[22:36] <[Saint]> I Aed when I should've Ved.
[22:36] <[Saint]> Kake_Fisk: multimeter.
[22:37] <Kake_Fisk> But I bought a usb hub
[22:37] <Kake_Fisk> a powered one
[22:37] <[Saint]> but it doesn't deserve checking unless you have issue.
[22:37] <atouk> powered hub?
[22:37] <billiam> I'm trying to determine if my raspberry pi is running on battery or not. Since the battery will be powered from some power strip, could I connect a 3.3v supply, of some kind, to directyly to a gpio input and just monitor that?
[22:37] <billiam> I'm electronics stupid :/
[22:37] <[Saint]> the powered hub won't help if the supply to the pi is browning out.
[22:38] <[Saint]> crap power supply is the biggest issue for users I see around here.
[22:38] <[Saint]> barring the linux learning curve.
[22:39] <[Saint]> But, as I said earlier, not worth bothering about until you know you're having weird issues that point in this direction.
[22:39] <[Saint]> Like random reboots, predictable sdcard corruption, etc.
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[22:44] <Kake_Fisk> I see
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[22:44] <Kake_Fisk> sdcard corruption as in the files or as in the actual sd card?
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[22:45] <[Saint]> As in the filesystem
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[22:46] <[Saint]> But, in all honesty, there's a very high chance you'll trash the filesystem a few times anyway even with a perfectly good power supply. :)
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[22:46] <Kake_Fisk> But I won't have to replace the sd card I hope? :p
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[22:47] <inteliwasp> does anyone know if it's posible to run xbmc on pimame?
[22:47] <Kake_Fisk> And I guess I have to properly unmount and such every time?
[22:47] <[Saint]> No. That's where a key of the pi's design comes in. Its designed so that you can just pull the sdcard, re-image it, and you're back to stock.
[22:47] <[Saint]> Kake_Fisk: yes, you'll always need to do a proper shutdown if possible.
[22:48] <[Saint]> "sync && sudo shutdown -h now" or so.
[22:48] <Kake_Fisk> ah
[22:50] <[Saint]> Well, that, or properly shutting down through whatever desktop environment you happen to be using.
[22:50] <[Saint]> just, basically, "don't yank the power out if you like your filesystem intact" :)
[22:50] <Kake_Fisk> hehe
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[22:51] <Kake_Fisk> I'm wondering if I should get a network cable tester if I make my own ethernet cables
[22:51] <[Saint]> Always a good idea.
[22:51] <[Saint]> They're cheap too.
[22:51] <Kake_Fisk> Yeah, I can get one for 3 $ + import
[22:53] <[Saint]> I couldn't say how invaluable those things are, on a cold Sunday morning when I'm finishing up the work I should've done throughout the week, half asleep.
[22:53] <[Saint]> Way better than just assuming your terminations are good.
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[22:57] <lordfuoco> Good Evening guys anyone who is working on the pi gpu to convert video with gstreamer + openmax?
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[23:00] <SpeedEvil> The GPU is closed source.
[23:01] <lordfuoco> Mmmh it is offtopic here?
[23:01] <[Saint]> lordfuoco: there basically is no topic here.
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[23:01] <[Saint]> everyday life, vaguely pi based. :)
[23:02] <sney> not offtopic, but unlikely that you're going to see the kind of support for it the way you would with other gpus
[23:02] <sney> for instance: no glx
[23:03] <lordfuoco> Yeah i know, but i am working with gpu video conversion and the pi is relay good at it :D
[23:03] <[Saint]> I have seen topics covered here ranging from growing actual raspberries, chickens and chicken care, breadmaking, knitting, and various beers.
[23:03] <[Saint]> Its a rather strange place sometimes. :)
[23:03] <sney> it's not a question of the gpu's power but the ability to code something for it
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[23:04] <sney> the only options for stuff outside what's available already are signing an NDA with broadcom or reverse engineering
[23:04] <lordfuoco> Something was already coded, i am working on ppl software from the raspy forum ^^
[23:04] <[Saint]> Indeed. The "secret sauce", as it were.
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[23:04] <[Saint]> There are some impressive efforts in the RE field happening now, though.
[23:05] <sney> yeah, not a shocker
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[23:05] <[Saint]> It was bound to happen, indeed.
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[23:06] <[Saint]> Give enough hackers a closed blob and /eventually/, thery're going to figure it out. Assuming interest doesn't lapse.
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[23:06] <[Saint]> And I don't see that happening for a while.
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[23:07] <sney> I wonder what the chances are of broadcom suing people who RE the chip
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[23:09] <sney> my perception of broadcom is they're lazy, not malicious. still, there's almost a legal need to sue people who seem to violate your copyrights.
[23:09] <[Saint]> Fairly low, depending on the publicity and the locale.
[23:09] <[Saint]> If you happened to be right next door to BC, and started selling datasheets on the street...I'm /pretty/ sure they would be obligated to stop you.
[23:10] <[Saint]> It wouldn't be their first loss in that field.
[23:10] <sney> and if you figured out how to make a GLX driver for the gpu and started distributing it? I wonder.
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[23:15] <nNa> How can I rebuild grub? Or more specifically, MBR.
[23:15] <nNa> I use Arch Linux ARM.
[23:16] <nNa> Since grub-install doesn't exist.
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[23:22] <andreiiar> there is no grub in raspi
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[23:23] <nNa> Oh... Than how can I create MBR? I'm currently looking at https://github.com/raspberrypi/noobs/blob/master/recovery/initdrivethread.cpp
[23:23] <nNa> Line 209
[23:24] <nNa> The only issue is, that the offset of my FAT partition is different, and I'm not sure what to change.
[23:25] <andreiiar> This is beyond me
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[23:26] <nNa> Oh, OK. Thanks anyway.
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