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IRC Log for 2013-10-19

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[0:05] <shakaponk> holla fratellis
[0:05] <shakaponk> is there a special channel for raspbian?
[0:06] <shakaponk> i would like to setup jboss as a service. what do i do?
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[0:07] <RelicDK> Hi guys - does anyone have knowledge of how to transfer files via SSH? I'm getting errors when trying to overwrite files using a FTP client over SFTP (using port 22)... I'm new to linux. :o)
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[0:09] <shakaponk> RelicDK: maybe a permission problem
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[0:09] <Peetz0r> scp localfile remoteuser@remotehost:/path/to/remotefile
[0:10] <Peetz0r> (or the other way around, whatever you want)
[0:10] <RelicDK> I checked the permissions, but they seem right. WR enabled and i changed the owner to the user logging in. The user can create files and delete files, but seemingly not overwrite.
[0:10] <RelicDK> Is it a FTP client issue, or am i doing something else wrong..?
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[0:11] <sney> what ftp client is that and what error are you getting exactly
[0:11] <sney> also, are you operating in the user's home directory or somewhere else?
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[0:12] <RelicDK> I'm using "Transmit" from Panic. The error is simply 'Could not upload "index.html".'.
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[0:12] <Peetz0r> wait, you cannot overwrite a file, but you can delete that same file?
[0:12] <Peetz0r> that's weird
[0:12] <RelicDK> I'm in the /var/www/ folder.
[0:13] <RelicDK> oh wait...
[0:13] <sney> ownership
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[0:14] <RelicDK> it seems to work now.. - I created a copy of the original file via the FTP, deleted the original, and renamed the copy to the originals name.
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[0:14] <RelicDK> ...I'll learn to run this 'Linux permission/user-gauntlet' eventually i'm sure.. :o)
[0:16] <sney> another solution would have been using the userdir setting for your webserver of choice, and having the website root in /home/youruser/public_html or so
[0:17] <sney> much less of a fight with permissions when you're just working in your own home directory
[0:17] <sney> it's a pretty common production setup especially on servers that have more than one site on them- the pi, not so much, but still a useful habit
[0:18] <RelicDK> ok.. - I'm using Apache and the default /var/www directory. This server will only feature the web-services i put up on it. No more users. :o)
[0:19] <RelicDK> I figured SSH would be more secure to use than installing an FTP service, they seem a bit dodgy to setup from what i remember.
[0:19] <Peetz0r> This is what I helped create today: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-wiQfR9c5s
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[0:19] <Peetz0r> I am responsible for the video and audio playback, which involves the Pi
[0:20] <sney> yes, ftp is pretty unnecessary these days
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[0:21] <RelicDK> Peetz0r - what does that unit do..?
[0:22] <Peetz0r> it's a 'time machine' for halloween
[0:22] <Peetz0r> there are flahsing lights, a smoke machine, rgb ledstrips, and video+audio
[0:22] <RelicDK> lol... nice :o)
[0:22] <Peetz0r> (the Pi does only the video and audio)
[0:23] <Peetz0r> the timemachine will take our young visitors to the middle ages
[0:24] * jalcine_ is now known as jalcine
[0:24] <Peetz0r> and this is one of the more loe-tech things they will find there: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=di8y9bWCwtM
[0:24] <Peetz0r> (yes, that's me)
[0:25] <Peetz0r> and yes, all the spoken text in both video's is dutch, but it's not that interesting to hear me talk ;)
[0:26] <RelicDK> Nice magic trick..! :o) - Can you explain the secret of how it works without having to kill me afterwards..? :o)
[0:27] <Peetz0r> ehm, you can try it, and with a little luck, you might actually survive ;)
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[0:27] <Peetz0r> it's just pieces of (awesomely well painted) wood
[0:28] <RelicDK> Ok! :o) The visual effect is sublime.. :o)
[0:29] <Peetz0r> the first blade slides down, until it stops at the right place, there it hits the second blade (which is hidden just below my neck) which hits the ground and makes a nice 'bang' sound
[0:29] <Peetz0r> oh, and everything is built on pallets, for easy 21st century transportation :D
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[0:30] <Peetz0r> the time machine isbuilt in 5 different sections, all on a tandard europallet
[0:31] <Peetz0r> the floor plates are 1m long and maybe 2m wide
[0:31] <Peetz0r> so the whole machine is maybe 2x5meters
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[0:34] <RelicDK> Nice! :o).. That requires some dedication and skills..
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[0:39] <Peetz0r> true :)
[0:39] <shakaponk> do anybody run jboss as a service on raspberry?
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[0:39] <Peetz0r> I didn't actually design the guillotine, I just volunteered for the video-test :D
[0:40] <Peetz0r> and offcourse I helped building
[0:41] <RelicDK> Ok.. I gotta log now. It's getting late here. Have a nice evening! :o)
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[1:16] <stevarino> can anyone recommend any specific parts to convert 24VAC to 8VAC (<500mA)? I'm having trouble finding an appropriate part
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[1:20] <shiftplusone> You're just after a suitable transformer?
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[1:23] <stevarino> shiftplusone: yeah. i've tried looking up transformers, but i can't make sense of them... I know that it should just be a 3:1 coil turns
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[1:24] <shiftplusone> I'll take a look, but ask in ##electronics as well.
[1:24] <sney> I wish I knew how that stuff worked so I could modify my bass amp
[1:25] <stevarino> shiftplusone: i'll ask there. thanks for the suggestion.
[1:25] <shiftplusone> (they really know what they're talking about, I don't)
[1:25] * stevarino is thinking of replacing my horrible thermostat with something a little smarter...
[1:25] <stevarino> :)
[1:27] <stevarino> also, random question: is hexxeh somewhat trusted? a tutorial i'm looking at has me execute an auto-updater from that site
[1:28] <shiftplusone> he is, but his script is no longer necessary in 99% of the cases
[1:28] <shiftplusone> If this is about rpi-update, why do you think you need to run it?
[1:29] <stevarino> it is and i don't think that. I'm just following a tutorial and am skeptical when told to run complicated code
[1:30] <shiftplusone> Well, what's the tutorial for?
[1:31] <stevarino> setting up a webserver inside the pi.
[1:31] <shiftplusone> absolutely no reason to run rpi-update then
[1:31] <stevarino> yay!
[1:31] <shiftplusone> how old is the tutorial?
[1:32] <stevarino> http://www.wikihow.com/Make-a-Raspberry-Pi-Web-Server
[1:32] <stevarino> it doesn't say...
[1:33] <stevarino> it looks like at least september 2012
[1:33] <shiftplusone> oh dear... wikihow
[1:33] <stevarino> lol
[1:33] <shiftplusone> yeah, that's ancient
[1:33] <stevarino> in google i trust.
[1:34] <stevarino> but it is debian, which hasn't changed much. in reality that tutorial can be simplified down to one or two sudo apt-get install commands
[1:34] <sney> really, a more current debian stable tutorial for setting up a webserver would be better
[1:34] <shiftplusone> I haven't really hear of cherokee, but that's unlikely to be an issue.
[1:34] <shiftplusone> I am sure it works fine
[1:35] <stevarino> what's the preferred way to setup a cgi? i'm looking for something light and quick
[1:35] <stevarino> i think mysql+php is a bit much for what i'm looking for
[1:36] <sney> it all depends on how you use it
[1:37] <sney> even a standard production-style LAMP install can be (ugh) "lightweight" if the php code in question is sane
[1:37] <stevarino> simple html or json output, access to gpio
[1:37] <stevarino> some authentication would probably be a good idea :D
[1:38] <sney> yeah you can do that with anything. just use what you're comfortable with.
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[1:38] <shiftplusone> Idn, I do things slightly different. I wouldn't bother with a tutorial. I'd pick a web server, install that, check if it 'just works' and then go through the documentation for it. Then, if I run into trouble, I'd look for tutorials.
[1:38] <stevarino> i'm comfortable with php, i was hoping to grow a little
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[1:40] <shiftplusone> I've been meaning to give python a go for 'web stuff', but don't have the time. It seems like a much better choice than I initially would've thought (compared to php)
[1:41] <sney> yeah, and sqlite is well integrated with it
[1:41] <stevarino> shiftplusone: yeah, but the go-to framework django seems a bit inappropriate
[1:41] <sney> python can be a little pokey on non-x86 though
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[1:41] <shiftplusone> hm
[1:42] <sney> ruby was popular for a while. seems you can do minimal stuff with it.
[1:42] <sney> do people still do perl cgi?
[1:42] <stevarino> sney: wasn't raspberry pi intended to use python for most tasks?
[1:43] <sney> I think it's suggested as the learning language because the syntax is easyu
[1:43] <stevarino> also according to https://wiki.python.org/moin/WebFrameworks django is the only framework currently being developed
[1:43] <shiftplusone> stevarino, It was intended that python would be used as an introductory language
[1:43] <sney> speed is not a major issue when you're just learning
[1:43] <stevarino> shiftplusone: ah
[1:43] <stevarino> sney: okay, that makes sense, unfortunately
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[2:43] <stevarino> is there anything in the pi that would prevent it from accepting connections from the internet? i'm trying to get this online and am unsure if my trouble is with the pi or my router/modem
[2:45] <shiftplusone> Not by default no. Are you forwarding the ports properly?
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[2:46] <stevarino> yeah, i'm pretty sure i've got it set up. 22 and 80 on tcp
[2:46] <SpeedEvil> Can you ping it locally
[2:47] <stevarino> yes, everything works great locally. but when i enter my routers assigned ip address the connections time out
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[2:47] <sney> are you trying to reach the external ip from inside the network?
[2:47] <stevarino> yeah. tracert shows all of one hop :)
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[2:48] <sney> it's not a valid test
[2:48] <sney> routers know that's their own ip and the packets never leave your lan
[2:48] <stevarino> trying a proxy
[2:48] <shiftplusone> Is your router crap or does it allow you to check the logs?
[2:49] <stevarino> shiftplusone: enabled logging.
[2:49] <stevarino> shiftplusone: i'm seeing attempts
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[3:00] <stevarino> i just checked all the apache config files, they all say *:80 for the server. time to fire up wireshark
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[3:10] <Triffid_Hunter> stevarino: routers generally will not run packets destined for their own public ip coming from within the lan through port forwarding
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[3:10] <Triffid_Hunter> stevarino: you need to check from external
[3:11] <stevarino> Triffid_Hunter: running a proxy through http, still no dice
[3:11] <Triffid_Hunter> stevarino: also, many ISPs block incoming on 25,80 and a few other ports for residential connections
[3:11] <stevarino> although, i did find out i set the gateway to the wrong ip address. wireshark showed the poor pi screaming for the router :(
[3:12] <stevarino> Triffid_Hunter: my router is logging incoming connections
[3:12] <Triffid_Hunter> ah, should be good then
[3:15] <GEEGEEGEE> anyone used pfsense?
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[3:15] <stevarino> it's got to be the router, it's not forwarding the ports... it logs the incoming packets, but doesn't send any packets out
[3:18] <stevarino> can someone take a look at this and tell me where i'm messed up? I've triple checked those ip's http://i.imgur.com/pOpkCfj.png
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[3:30] <wollw> I'm having a strange problem rendering to the framebuffer with opengl.
[3:30] <wollw> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lP5ckH2KCdY
[3:30] <wollw> Anyone seen this before?
[3:30] <wollw> It starts out normal, but after some amount of time starts doing that
[3:31] <stevarino> you found a piece of the triforce!
[3:31] * stevarino has nothing
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[3:31] <wollw> Or maybe whatever broke the triforce.
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[3:42] * wollw sighs, "maybe passing float color values to my shader that are greater than 1.0 was a bad idea."
[3:42] <wollw> These things always end up being typos.
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[3:52] <stevarino> anything i can do if my apt-get install keeps failing
[3:52] <stevarino> i get a failed to fetch error
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[3:55] <wollw> apt-get update?
[3:56] <stevarino> yeah. a lot of errors there too... it's having trouble getting to archive.raspberrypi.org
[3:57] <wollw> can you ping anything from your rpi?
[4:00] <stevarino> wollw: good call. no
[4:00] <stevarino> i can ping local, but not out
[4:00] <wollw> Welp, that would cause problems.
[4:00] <wollw> heh
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[4:02] <GEEGEEGEE> I booted up an old dell and the capacitors are making a strange sound
[4:02] <GEEGEEGEE> is it saf
[4:02] <GEEGEEGEE> e
[4:03] <shiftplusone> Welcome to Dell customer support. No, capacitors don't normally make noise, as far as I know.
[4:03] <stevarino> mine sometimes give reasonable investment advice
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[4:04] <shiftplusone> Lucky
[4:05] <stevarino> so the mystery of the hour, why won't a pi resolve names?
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[4:06] <GEEGEEGEE> stevarino, traceroute to google and post it
[4:08] <stevarino> "Name or service not known" it's not even trying....
[4:08] <shiftplusone> can you ping the ip?
[4:08] <GEEGEEGEE> stevarino, ping google.com
[4:08] <GEEGEEGEE> srry
[4:08] <GEEGEEGEE> i mean 8.8.8.8
[4:09] <stevarino> GEEGEEGEE: ping returns network is unreachable
[4:09] <GEEGEEGEE> try pinging your gateway ip
[4:10] <stevarino> GEEGEEGEE: i can ping the router, but not modem ip. modem ip is pingable from my desktop machine
[4:11] <Triffid_Hunter> stevarino: network unreachable for non-local addresses means you don't have a default route
[4:11] <Triffid_Hunter> stevarino: and dns lookups are handled by the servers listed in /etc/resolv.conf
[4:12] <Triffid_Hunter> stevarino: 4.2.2.1, 4.2.2.2, 8.8.4.4 and 8.8.8.8 are some popular public DNS servers
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[4:12] <stevarino> i've got 75.75.75.75 and 75.75.76.76 as well as my isp
[4:14] <stevarino> hey! the default route fixed it! ty Triffid_Hunter
[4:15] <Triffid_Hunter> stevarino: with just local connectivity, world-bound packets hit the routing table and fall out the bottom, at which point the kernel says 'uhh nope no idea what to do with this'
[4:15] <Triffid_Hunter> stevarino: the default route is the fallback entry, so the kernel says 'hm, nothing specific matches, let's just hand it to the gateway and see what happens'
[4:16] <stevarino> Triffid_Hunter: gotcha. i probably hit this when i went to a static ip, so dhcp didn't set up the default gateway?
[4:16] <Triffid_Hunter> stevarino: dhcp should set up ip, gateway and dns. if you went static you have to do all three yourself
[4:17] <stevarino> Triffid_Hunter: omg everything works now. i can see the server remotely. awesome
[4:18] <stevarino> Triffid_Hunter: dns looks like it held. it was just ip, subnet, and gateway that got lost. i set ip and subnet in my /etc/network/interfaces but didn't think of the gateway
[4:19] <Triffid_Hunter> :)
[4:19] <stevarino> will the routing table hold after a restart, or should i add the gateway somewhere more permanent? (i used the route command)
[4:19] <Triffid_Hunter> stevarino: yeah you'll need to put it somewhere it can get set at startup
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[4:19] <Triffid_Hunter> stevarino: presumably /etc/network/interfaces somewhere, I'm not particularly familiar with debian so couldn't tell you the exact format
[4:20] <Triffid_Hunter> I've been doing networking on linux for years though, it's pretty easy to find my way around now
[4:20] <stevarino> Triffid_Hunter: google says just add a "gateway [ip]" option to the interfaces file
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[4:20] <Triffid_Hunter> there you go :)
[4:21] <stevarino> Triffid_Hunter: it was in there, just typed wrong. oops
[4:22] <stevarino> Triffid_Hunter: thanks again, i owe you a beer or something
[4:28] <jda2000> Just installed the Oracle version of Java 7. Anybody have a link that will help me to get processing up and running? // So, about that...
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[4:33] <stevarino> the guys who set up duckdns.org rock
[4:33] <stevarino> although, i wish they used ~/duckdns/... in their tutorials. ugh
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[4:47] <Triffid_Hunter> stevarino: swing them an email or something about it
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[4:47] <stevarino> Triffid_Hunter: they have a good google+ site, left them a note and some praise over there
[4:48] <Triffid_Hunter> I've got dyndns with no-ip already but will keep an eye on that one
[4:48] <Triffid_Hunter> got a few real domains too, they're so cheap
[4:48] <Triffid_Hunter> stevarino: use zoneedit if you ever need a couple of free dns servers to provide dns for a domain or two
[4:48] <stevarino> Triffid_Hunter: agreed. signed up to dreamhost a few years back, never had a problem
[4:49] <Triffid_Hunter> I got a rackspace instance, $11/month for root access to a linux box with distribution of my choice (I chose gentoo) :)
[4:49] <stevarino> the duck dns guys say they're better than no-ip because they don't keep logs and some other stuff
[4:50] <Triffid_Hunter> stevarino: yeah no-ip I have to do a captcha every month, a little annoying but I suppose it keeps their database clean
[4:50] <stevarino> the duck dns guys talk about some stuff in here: http://www.reddit.com/r/raspberry_pi/comments/1d81uf/duck_dns_a_new_ddns_service_with_tailored/
[4:51] <stevarino> next step: get gpio working in php, then blink all sorts of led's from all sorts of places!
[4:52] <Triffid_Hunter> yep :) just remember if you need to blink them *really fast*, you're better off hooking an arduino to the usb port
[4:52] <stevarino> you're talking pwm?
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[4:53] <Triffid_Hunter> pwm is one, also things like 1-wire, maybe i2c, anything where the bitclock is embedded in the datastream
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[4:53] <Triffid_Hunter> SPI is fine if your rpi is the master, clock is separate so horrendous jitter shouldn't be problematic unless you need to keep up a particular data rate
[4:54] <stevarino> ah. i thought i2c was supported by the pi?
[4:54] <Triffid_Hunter> there's probably hardware for it on the silicon
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[4:56] <Triffid_Hunter> stevarino: know someone who's good at soldering? may want to beef up the power routing on your rpi, like http://triffid-hunter.no-ip.info/101_0120.JPG if you're planning on hooking lots of stuff to it
[4:56] <Triffid_Hunter> stevarino: and remember to be super careful with the GPIO, they're 3.3v only and will be damaged by 5v and ESD
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[4:56] <steve_rox> interesting jpg
[4:57] <stevarino> Triffid_Hunter: in that pic, are they bypassing everything and hooking up +5V/Gnd to the Voltage inputs on the pi?
[4:57] <Triffid_Hunter> steve_rox: was getting annoyed at my rpi browning out when I plugged things into the usb
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[4:57] <steve_rox> yeah that annoys me as well
[4:57] <steve_rox> my rev1 is okay ffor that tho
[4:57] <Triffid_Hunter> stevarino: they're directly linking 1) the usb power input 2) the two usb host ports and 3) the 5v/0v power pins on the GPIO header
[4:58] <Triffid_Hunter> http://triffid-hunter.no-ip.info/101_0059.JPG <-- I power mine via the GPIO rather than the micro-usb
[4:58] <stevarino> i was not expecting that
[4:58] <steve_rox> does that not bypass some safty?
[4:58] <Triffid_Hunter> stevarino: http://triffid-hunter.no-ip.info/101_0120_mlcc.jpg <-- I also added some 10u MLCC to really bolster the power against the sudden draw which happens when you plug something in due to the device's internal capacitors
[4:59] <Triffid_Hunter> steve_rox: yes. it bypasses the polyfuse. I can live with that, and accept responsibility for the results of it
[4:59] <steve_rox> ah
[4:59] <steve_rox> ive allready soldered some wires to some of them points
[4:59] <steve_rox> like d17
[5:00] <steve_rox> its hell getting the wire to stick sometimes with solder
[5:00] <Triffid_Hunter> steve_rox: your iron isn't hot enough
[5:00] <steve_rox> or its too hot
[5:00] <Triffid_Hunter> no. too hot makes the solder flow really quickly and easily, then the pcb burns
[5:00] <leming> use flux
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[5:00] <steve_rox> i use a lower wattage iron , i originally got it so it put less thermal stress on components
[5:01] <Triffid_Hunter> steve_rox: lower heat is actually worse because you must keep the iron in contact for longer
[5:01] <Triffid_Hunter> I set mine to 350c for most soldering, and bump up to 400+ for larger joints
[5:01] <steve_rox> i also used a differnt ratio of solder that melts easier
[5:01] <Triffid_Hunter> steve_rox: eutectic?
[5:01] <Triffid_Hunter> 63/37?
[5:01] <steve_rox> i cant rember the number of it
[5:01] <steve_rox> it just has a lower melting point
[5:02] <Triffid_Hunter> gotta be careful with that stuff. it doesn't have a plastic zone, it goes direct from molten to solid. If the joint moves in that time, you'll get a cold joint
[5:02] <Triffid_Hunter> the plastic zone gives you a tiny bit of leeway wrt movement during cooling
[5:02] <steve_rox> when i used to work on lazers it was important not to put too much heat on em
[5:02] <steve_rox> well i usually test the joints before i declare them done
[5:02] <Triffid_Hunter> steve_rox: trust me, 0.5 seconds at 350c will put less heat into the component than 3 seconds at 250c
[5:03] <steve_rox> plus i dont have a multi tempature soldering iron
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[5:03] <Triffid_Hunter> steve_rox: damn, I remember only having a pencil iron, it sucked.. temperature control was a revelation
[5:03] <steve_rox> i read they are making rpi cam without the ir filters
[5:04] <steve_rox> hmm maybe ill consider it in a future buy
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[5:04] <Triffid_Hunter> steve_rox: I got an atten 8586 from sureelectronics, has a hot air gun as well as a small temp controlled iron
[5:05] <Triffid_Hunter> hot air is amazing when you're doing SMD, should be considered a requirement
[5:05] <steve_rox> ive de soldered parts with hot air gun before
[5:05] <steve_rox> quite effective
[5:07] <steve_rox> you have much interest in the rpi cam?
[5:08] <steve_rox> agh im close to passing out , so tired
[5:11] <Triffid_Hunter> steve_rox: haven't checked it out yet
[5:11] <Triffid_Hunter> any particular interesting features over a regular usb webcam?
[5:12] <steve_rox> night vision mainly
[5:12] <steve_rox> i have a regular rpi cam with the ir filter
[5:12] <Triffid_Hunter> apparently the ps2 eye has decent low-light
[5:13] <steve_rox> someone already posted about makeing certain cameras able to xray thu ppls clothing
[5:13] <steve_rox> spose it was just a matter of time
[5:13] <Triffid_Hunter> only specific types of clothing are transparent to IR
[5:14] <steve_rox> be fun to setup a time lapse shot using ir cam
[5:15] <steve_rox> damn , im falling asleep here its gone past 4am
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[5:53] <stevarino> following a tutorial on setting up php+gpio.... this command does not work "sudo modprobe w1-gpio"
[5:53] <stevarino> anyone share any light?
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[5:57] <shiftplusone> I am a bit busy, so can't help, but for the sake of others, provide the exact error messages and links to tutorials you're following.
[5:59] <stevarino> shiftplusone: sure, sorry. i'm seeing w1-gpio mentioned a lot online, but nothing about setting it up. i'm following this guide: https://github.com/ronanguilloux/php-gpio/blob/master/README.md and at the command "sudo modprobe w1-gpio" it returns "ERROR: could not insert 'w1_gpio': No such device"
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[5:59] <shiftplusone> did you use underscore like the error message says?
[6:00] <shiftplusone> or a dash, like the readme says?
[6:01] <stevarino> dash
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[6:01] <stevarino> i'm confused why it changed, too. maybe differing namespace rules?
[6:02] <shiftplusone> well, before we go on, do you plan on using 1-wire?
[6:02] <stevarino> no
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[6:03] <shiftplusone> Then maybe you don't need it.
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[6:07] <shiftplusone> I suspect that that particular module might not be enabled in the default kernel config.
[6:08] <stevarino> trying it out now...
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[6:09] <x1337807x> I accidentally left a pi on at work and I'm worried it might burn in the TV. If I have ssh access is there some way to disable the video output so the TV will sleep?
[6:10] <x1337807x> I could shut it down, but I think it will just keep displaying system halted yeah?
[6:10] <Xark> x1337807x: Isn't the screen blanker on by default (or did they change that)?
[6:11] <Xark> x1337807x: Perhaps just exit X, then the console will blank (or perhaps you can blank it remotely)?
[6:11] <x1337807x> I didn't know there was such a feature. It's actually a RetroPie and I walked by it a couple times over a few hours and it wasn't sleeping, but it may have been because it was on a paused emulator game?
[6:11] <x1337807x> I killed the emulator so maybe it will sleep now.
[6:11] <x1337807x> Is there some way to know without driving back to the office?
[6:12] <Xark> x1337807x: What kind of TV? If LCD, those are reasonably immune to burn-in (or at least permanent burn-in).
[6:12] <x1337807x> Yeah I think it will be fine but it might be plasma, in any case it will probably upset management.
[6:13] <Xark> Yeah, plasma is a burn in hazard...
[6:13] <Triffid_Hunter> x1337807x: X or terminal?
[6:13] <Xark> x1337807x: Unless you like "kernel halted" subtitle on all your movies. :)
[6:14] <x1337807x> Triffid_Hunter: it should be on terminal now
[6:14] <x1337807x> It was showing the emulator but I killed the process
[6:14] <shiftplusone> /opt/vc/bin/tvservice -o ?
[6:14] <Triffid_Hunter> x1337807x: try something like wall $(setterm -powersave powerdown)
[6:14] <x1337807x> so it should drop to the prompt
[6:15] <x1337807x> tvservice sounds promising
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[6:20] <stevarino> shiftplusone: hey! it works, thanks for the help :)
[6:20] <shiftplusone> stevarino, have fun
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[7:10] <overrider> I am trying to read a Honeywell motion sensor. In the specs the alarm output reads as 500mA 30V. When i trigger the alarm and measure the alarm pins with a multi meter i cannot get it to ready any Amperage or Any voltage. If i set the Voltage meter into test (beep) mode, i do get a beep when the sensor is triggered. Why can't i read a voltage here? Can i connect this safely to my RPi's GPIO pins?
[7:13] <shiftplusone> link to datasheet?
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[7:15] <overrider> Well maybe i am reading like 1.2V when the alarm is triggered - was holding my meter wrong. But still, how comes i read 1.2V when the Specs say 30V @500mA. Maybe that is the maximum or so. Here is the datasheet: http://acmalite.com/Catalogue/Honeywell/DT7225.pdf
[7:16] <shiftplusone> well, it says alarm relay.... and you are setting the multimeter to continuity mode... Could it simply be acting like a switch?
[7:16] <overrider> shiftplusone: i would say it does act like a switch
[7:17] <overrider> So that means i can simply read it like i would any button?
[7:17] <shiftplusone> Well, now you said you are getting 1.2v so...
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[7:18] <overrider> I have it hooked up to an arduino on pin13, to see what would happen. Maybe the reading comes from there
[7:19] <shiftplusone> do you hear a click when it activates?
[7:19] <shiftplusone> (listen closely)
[7:19] <overrider> I hear a very very tiny click. More like a blip.
[7:20] <shiftplusone> The way I read the datasheet is that there's a relay and that it's just a switch from your perspective
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[7:20] <shiftplusone> and the click would indicate that
[7:20] <overrider> Cool. So i could read it just like a switch on my Rpi.
[7:20] <shiftplusone> yes
[7:20] <overrider> But then why does it say 30V at 500mA? Does that mean that is the maximum i could drive using this 'relay' ?
[7:21] <shiftplusone> I like how you put relay in quote marks.... like the "laser"
[7:21] <shiftplusone> yeah I think those are just the limits of the relay
[7:22] <overrider> Ok neat. I kept using the little PIR sensors that are easily found and mentioned in many tutorials, but they don't detect very far it seems. This thingy detects nicely 7-8 meters away.
[7:23] <shiftplusone> So what are you making there?
[7:24] <shiftplusone> Like a bird feeder or like a security system with a motion activated shotgun of sorts?
[7:24] <overrider> Basically making a picture of people that pass by my window while they are sticking their face close to the window. Then showing their faces on a screen.
[7:24] <overrider> Its just a gimmick.
[7:25] <shiftplusone> Wha... why do they stick their face on your window? O_o
[7:25] <overrider> Curious i guess, its like a little alley with a bunch of small offices next to one another
[7:26] <shiftplusone> ah
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[9:50] <Ivo> does anyone have a nice python virtualenv'ed setup for their rpi?
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[10:26] <hid3> Hello everyone. I'm troubleshooting my Raspberry Pi no boot. I've taken the multimeter and measured voltage between TP1 and TP2. At first it is around 4.3 Volts, then after some time it is steady 4.92. Does this still mean I might have power supply problems?
[10:27] <shiftplusone> possibly
[10:27] <hid3> I've tried two separate power supplies with the same results on my board
[10:27] <shiftplusone> using the same cable?
[10:28] <hid3> But I've tried two raspberries, my friends one is with 256 RAM, and it works fine with both power supplies
[10:28] <hid3> sure, same cable
[10:28] <shiftplusone> Try different cable
[10:28] <hid3> I've tried 3 different micro usb power cables
[10:28] <hid3> different diameter, length
[10:28] <hid3> on one raspberry all PSUs, all cables work fine
[10:29] <hid3> other raspbbery does not boot
[10:29] <hid3> ACT keeps flashing 4 times in a row
[10:29] <shiftplusone> same SD card on both pis ?
[10:29] <hid3> this one is brand new
[10:29] <hid3> Yes, sure, same SD card
[10:29] <hid3> verified SHA1 too
[10:29] <shiftplusone> wait, the flashing.. is that this pi or another one?
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[10:30] <hid3> flashing is the "brand new" pi
[10:30] <hid3> known-good is "that" one, onlder/used/w256 MB RAM
[10:30] <hid3> *older
[10:30] <shiftplusone> the one you're talking about that you're saying doesn't boot?
[10:30] <hid3> Yes
[10:30] <hid3> No rainbow splash
[10:30] <hid3> No boot
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[10:31] <shiftplusone> "4 flashes: start.elf not launched"
[10:31] <hid3> no matter with either PSU, power cable, HDMI/keyboard/mouse/ethernet present or not
[10:31] <hid3> shiftplusone: yes, but not sure what's next
[10:31] <hid3> it's surely a HW problem
[10:31] <shiftplusone> So it's finding the firmware, but it's having trouble processing it.
[10:31] <hid3> Yes... Possibly. Not sure where to look next
[10:31] <shiftplusone> I wouldn't say surely.
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[10:31] <shiftplusone> Which image are you using?
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[10:32] <hid3> the Card is brand new (I've tried 3 of them, if that matters). All work with the older Pi and none work with the new one
[10:32] <hid3> 2013-09-25-wheezy-raspbian.img
[10:32] <hid3> I've checked the SD card pins
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[10:33] <hid3> I've used needle to slightly bend them up
[10:33] <hid3> that also didn't help
[10:33] <shiftplusone> Well... that was going to be my last suggestion =(
[10:33] <hid3> and they all seem to be making contact with the card
[10:33] <shiftplusone> But just for the hell of it.... tried NOOBS?
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[10:34] <hid3> No.. But look, this isn't an image problem. It's a HW problem
[10:34] <hid3> Once I had success booting it
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[10:34] <hid3> after like 100 times power plug in / remove
[10:34] <hid3> then I configured it
[10:34] <hid3> it said reboot was required
[10:34] <hid3> and then dead again after the reboot
[10:34] <shiftplusone> Doesn't hurt to check, but I agree.
[10:35] <hid3> I'm having bad luck with everything in my life :(
[10:35] <shiftplusone> It's just not a bad idea to try everything before claiming warranty
[10:35] <hid3> I even bought a brand new but defective pi :(
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[10:36] <hid3> Should I try to power up the pi off the conmputer's USB port as a last chance?
[10:37] <shiftplusone> wouldn't hurt
[10:37] <shiftplusone> But yeah, I am stumped. =(
[10:38] <Davespice> morning
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[10:39] <shiftplusone> Hello, you again.
[10:39] <hid3> ooops
[10:39] <hid3> looks like I've made more trouble now
[10:39] <hid3> I've accidently touched +3.3V and +5V pins on the GPIO with multimeter cable
[10:39] <hid3> now the ACT LED is blank
[10:39] <Davespice> what have we got here? Pi not booting properly?
[10:40] <hid3> yes, and now probably a burned fuse
[10:40] <shiftplusone> hid3, the fuse recovers, so you might be ok. Leave it for a while.
[10:41] <shiftplusone> Davespice, yeah... we've gone through the checklist... different cards, different supplies, different cables, the image is the latest and everything works with another pi he has. He is getting 4 flashes (start.elf not executed).
[10:41] <hid3> And the same problem from the computer's USB port. Confirmed
[10:41] <Davespice> right, have we tried the holding your thumb on the card with some pressure during boot?
[10:41] <hid3> OK, I'll now leave it alone for a while expecting to recover the fuse
[10:42] <hid3> Yes. Also checked the pins with needle
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[10:42] <Davespice> ah right as in re-bending them?
[10:42] <hid3> yes yes, right
[10:42] <Davespice> hmm :/
[10:42] <hid3> bent them all upwards
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[10:44] <hid3> Looks like I've burned one SD card with touching the pins. It no longer works on either pi
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[11:15] <microchip_sac> I'm a new guy to the RPi, and I don't quite get the point
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[11:15] <microchip_sac> for example, how is a RPi better than programming on a computer
[11:15] <microchip_sac> and then building control systems on microcontrollers?
[11:16] <[Saint]> microchip_sac: some people might not have the computer to build on in the first place.
[11:16] <microchip_sac> how does it give you an advantage over traditional system design like the example above?
[11:16] <Triffid_Hunter> microchip_sac: you can't stream 1080p video on very many devices that consume a mere ~4 watts
[11:17] <microchip_sac> but if my main goal is micro-programming
[11:17] <Triffid_Hunter> microchip_sac: then get a cortex-m4
[11:17] <microchip_sac> how do I benefit?
[11:17] <shiftplusone> microchip_sac, it's not. That part of it is mostly for kids. Parents can be very protective of the family PC. Giving a kid a cheap PC that they can have a sense of ownership over without the parents having to worry about them messing up their system is kind of the point. It's great for the rest of us for little servers and hardware projects though.
[11:17] <shiftplusone> microchip_sac, so, if you don't see the point or are not interested, it's probably not for you.
[11:17] <[Saint]> if you already have a setup that works for you, you don't.
[11:17] <[Saint]> benefit, that is.
[11:17] <microchip_sac> I get the point of being able to fiddle around a lot
[11:18] <microchip_sac> and since you have more resources avialable, it's better than a uC
[11:18] <[Saint]> Primarily, its this: Your PC doesn't cost $25, and you can't reset it to stock by pulling an sdcard.
[11:18] <shiftplusone> right
[11:18] <microchip_sac> plus you can program and run on the same device
[11:18] <microchip_sac> so it's kinda 'all-in-one' oriented?
[11:19] <[Saint]> Its orientated towards getting this HW into the hands of those who would've found it prohibitively expensive beforehand.
[11:19] <Triffid_Hunter> microchip_sac: no. it fits a niche between large microcontrollers and small computers, with the added benefit of the hardware video stuff
[11:19] <shiftplusone> I wouldn't say it's oriented to be all in one or anything. It just so happens that it's fairly versatile.
[11:20] <davor> what's a cheap way to connect a Raspberry Pi to a microcontroller (AVR) wirelessly?
[11:20] <Triffid_Hunter> davor: bluetooth
[11:20] <microchip_sac> davor: i2c
[11:20] <[Saint]> "anti-wires"
[11:20] <shiftplusone> i2c without wires? O_o
[11:20] <shiftplusone> duct tape?
[11:20] <[Saint]> :)
[11:20] <davor> haha
[11:21] <microchip_sac> over infrared
[11:21] <davor> bluetooth seems good, or at least 2.4GHz
[11:21] <davor> nah I'd like RF
[11:22] <microchip_sac> shiftplusone: so how would you sum up the RPi and its usabilty?
[11:22] <shiftplusone> microchip_sac, "depends"
[11:22] <RelicDK> Hi guys! i just setup a Raspberry Pi with a Raspbian LAMP setup. I have setup a simple PHP page in the /var/www/ folder and tried to connect with the MySQL database, but i get the following error: ""Could not connect: "Access denied for user 'xxxxx'@'localhost' (using password: YES)""
[11:23] <shiftplusone> (not the adult diapers, just the word)
[11:23] <davor> was looking at 433 MHz transceivers, tbh I'd love to find something <5$ a pop
[11:23] <davor> was looking at those too is what I meant
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[11:24] <microchip_sac> shiftplusone: for someone doing computer programming and micro-programming together?
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[11:27] <shiftplusone> microchip_sac, I don't know your needs or expectations. It's a niche, but versatile product and I think everyone should have one, but I don't know if it's going to suit your needs.
[11:27] <shiftplusone> (sorry for the non-answer, but it's all I have there)
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[11:28] <bluesm_> What is the meaning of this : pkill -USR1 -n -x dd
[11:28] <bluesm_> This makes "dd" program to report its status to stdoutput
[11:28] <shiftplusone> bluesm_, tells the progress
[11:29] <shiftplusone> yes
[11:29] <shiftplusone> sends the USR1 signal
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[11:29] <shiftplusone> which dd uses to tell the progress
[11:29] <Triffid_Hunter> bluesm_: see 'man dd', "Sending a USR1 signal to a running 'dd' process makes it print I/O statistics to standard error and then resume copying."
[11:29] <shiftplusone> and maybe "man pkill"
[11:30] <bluesm_> But is it default "unix" signal which ask any proces "Hey, would you like to send information about your status to stdoutput" ? It is part of unix abstraction ?
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[11:30] <bluesm_> shiftplusone: ^
[11:30] <shiftplusone> nope
[11:30] <shiftplusone> not as far as I know, anyway.
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[11:31] <Chetic> I'm having some hardware trouble with my I2C: http://imgur.com/zy76eCq,iOSczT7,MUMWHae (Green is SCL, Pink is SDA) Can anybody help me figure out why SCL doesn't seem to go to 0v when it's being pulled down? After a while it goes low enough for the pi to be able to interpret data but mostly it just doesn't work.
[11:31] <shiftplusone> I think USR1 signal is called that because it's sort of a spare.... there's no pre-determined or recommended use for it. But I am not a unix person, so I don't know.
[11:32] <bluesm_> shiftplusone: The response of USR1 is written in program itself, but this is an unix concept that unix program should comply with?
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[11:33] <ShadowJK> Openvpn takes USR1 as "reinitialize connection" signal
[11:33] <ShadowJK> and USR2 as print stats
[11:33] <shiftplusone> bluesm_, the program does not have to do anything, it can ignore the signal altogether. It just so happens that dd uses this to print the information.
[11:33] <Triffid_Hunter> bluesm_: many daemons will close and reopen their logs on USR1 or HUP
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[11:34] <Triffid_Hunter> bluesm_: this allows log rotation to function without having to stop the daemon completely or set up a dedicated logging daemon
[11:34] <ShadowJK> But in general you have to look it up for every individual program, what usr does
[11:35] <Triffid_Hunter> bluesm_: there are a number of standard unix signals. Programs may respond to them however they wish. A few have default actions, and a program cannot prevent SIGKILL from terminating it
[11:36] <Triffid_Hunter> bluesm_: SIGTERM is a request for a program to close as soon as possible, its default is to simply nuke the program
[11:36] <davor> can I connect 5v-powered devices (screen modules and such) which support I2C to the Pi without the fear of frying it?
[11:36] <Triffid_Hunter> bluesm_: you can get SIGABRT or SIGBUS or SIGSEGV from the kernel during various error conditions
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[11:37] <Triffid_Hunter> davor: generally, no, you need a level translator. the RPi is 3.3v only, and does NOT tolerate 5v on its GPIO
[11:38] <davor> oh well, I can just use a mosfet for that, right?
[11:38] <RelicDK> Does anybody have any experience using an IDS like Snort? I'm considering installing it on my Pi.
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[11:40] <Triffid_Hunter> davor: yeah there's heaps of tutorials about using logic mosfets as bidirectional level shifters
[11:42] <davor> awesome, thanks man
[11:43] <dheeraj> Hiii all
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[11:47] <davor> woah http://www.ebay.com/itm/261096794843
[11:47] <Triffid_Hunter> davor: ooh nice find, I've been wondering when those would drop
[11:47] <davor> operated at 3.3v, 64k colour LCD, 240x320, with touch panel and controller, down from 32.20 to 16.10 USD
[11:48] <davor> the seller has a sale Triffid_Hunter, 5-50% drop on electronic items
[11:48] <ShorTie> RelicDK, rPi does not make a good router/firewall
[11:48] <davor> lots of cheap stuff, especially since it's mostly the more expensive stuff that has the largest price drop
[11:48] <davor> a LOT of items are on sale
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[11:52] <RelicDK> ShorTie - I have a separate firewall, i just wanted some decent protection of the Pi itself to counter portscans and similar.
[11:53] <davor> Triffid_Hunter, http://www.ebay.com/sme/chip_partner/Save-5-50-on-Electrical-Test-Equipment/so.html?_nkw=&_soffid=6&_seedid=251044600998&_sid=2048038&_sacat=0
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[11:57] <bluesm_> Triffid_Hunter: Thank you very much :))
[11:58] <Triffid_Hunter> bluesm_: yw :)
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[12:00] <ShorTie> your firewall should stop all that and it should never get to rPi, imho
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[12:01] <ShorTie> just like a firewall on a pc is a waste of resources
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[12:09] <dheeraj> I had connected internet via ethernet cable.. It was working fine yesterday
[12:10] <dheeraj> but today i cant understand where the problem is
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[12:12] <dheeraj> please help me out..
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[12:13] <ShorTie> what does ifconfig say ??
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[12:15] <ShorTie> what is in /etc/network/interface ??
[12:16] <dheeraj> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6262807/
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[12:17] <dheeraj> ShorTie: its of Pi..
[12:18] <davor> I wonder if a screen like that could actually be used as a regular screen instead of having to manually draw stuff out
[12:18] <ShorTie> that says it's workin
[12:18] <dheeraj> but it is not
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[12:19] <dheeraj> i did ping 8.8.8.8
[12:19] <dheeraj> and it says connect: Network is unreachable
[12:19] <dheeraj> And on machine it is doing fine
[12:20] <ShorTie> can you ping the rPi from a different pc ??
[12:21] <dheeraj> I can do it from my laptops terminal
[12:21] <dheeraj> on which i had ssh that
[12:22] <dheeraj> ShorTie: its working fine
[12:22] <ShorTie> is your gateway set in /etc/network/interfaces
[12:23] <ShorTie> what does route say ??
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[12:23] <shiftplusone> dheeraj, connected via ethernet cable to what?
[12:23] <dheeraj> shiftplusone: via ethernet cable
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[12:23] <dheeraj> to my laptop
[12:24] <ShorTie> i think he is asking is it connected to a router or an other pc
[12:24] <shiftplusone> what's that laptop running?
[12:24] <dheeraj> ShorTie: it is connected to a pc
[12:24] <dheeraj> Linux
[12:24] <ShorTie> if it is an other pc, that pc needs to be setup as a brifge then
[12:25] <shiftplusone> What steps did you take to make sure the laptop forwards things as necessary?
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[12:25] <dheeraj> https://gist.github.com/ChickenProp/3037292
[12:25] <ShorTie> bridge*
[12:25] <dheeraj> i did from here yesterday
[12:26] <shiftplusone> did you reboot since then?
[12:26] <dheeraj> I didnt reboot my laptop..
[12:26] <dheeraj> but i did reboot with Rpi
[12:26] <shiftplusone> what does "cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward" say?
[12:27] <dheeraj> shiftplusone: 1
[12:27] <shiftplusone> that checks out then
[12:28] <dheeraj> means/..??
[12:28] <shiftplusone> that's ok
[12:28] <dheeraj> Ohkk
[12:28] <shiftplusone> On the pi, did you run sudo ip addr add 192.168.1.2/24 dev eth0 again?
[12:28] <dheeraj> shiftplusone: yes
[12:29] <shiftplusone> I give up then.
[12:29] <ShorTie> but he is on the 192.168.3.x network
[12:29] <shiftplusone> Yeah, I am sure he adjusted for that though
[12:29] <shiftplusone> since I can see that the ip is set already
[12:30] <dheeraj> so where is the problem..
[12:30] <dheeraj> :/
[12:30] <ShorTie> the problem is not in the rPi if you can ssh into it
[12:30] <ShorTie> it is in the pc your hooking the rPi up to
[12:30] <shiftplusone> could be if the gateway isn't set up properly, couldn't it?
[12:31] <shiftplusone> (I am clueless about network stuff)
[12:31] <ShorTie> well, i did ask about that earlier
[12:31] <shiftplusone> ah ok
[12:32] <shiftplusone> But yeah, I would come back to the laptop and redo all of the steps, just in case.
[12:32] <ShorTie> what is so hard about hooking it up to a router i wonder
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[12:33] <dheeraj> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6262884/
[12:33] <dheeraj> back in 10 mins :(
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[12:33] <shiftplusone> If your laptop uses network-manager (probably does), there's an easy way to get it working (dhcp and all). Under ipv4 settings there's an option to share the connection.
[12:33] <shiftplusone> and that takes care of everything
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[12:36] <ShorTie> or just use a router
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[12:44] * ShorTie wonders what os is on laptop
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[12:45] <shiftplusone> <dheeraj> Linux
[12:45] <shiftplusone> haven't dragged out the distro though
[12:45] <ShorTie> ya, linux doesn't say much
[12:47] <ShorTie> those instructions are for Gentoo, which is a different from ubuntu that he is paste bin'n too...
[12:48] <shiftplusone> There's pretty much just one way to do it
[12:48] <shiftplusone> and that's the same on all distros
[12:49] <shiftplusone> network-manager just does it for you. But, I suppose there is the chance that network-manager can interfere if he does it manually and then has NM running as well
[12:50] <davor> can anyone recommend an AVR to which I can connect multiple peripherals via SPI (or maybe even I2C)?
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[12:50] <shiftplusone> davor, wouldn't their site have a parametric search feature?
[12:51] <Triffid_Hunter> davor: they basically all have SPI.. if you want one with lots of I/O, the 2560 is popularised by the arduino mega series
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[12:51] <Triffid_Hunter> personally I'm more interested in cortex-m4 at the moment though, those are epic
[12:51] <shiftplusone> Triffid_Hunter, on what board?
[12:51] <Triffid_Hunter> with the FPU you could run quite a sizeable kalman filter at ludicrous speed
[12:52] <Triffid_Hunter> shiftplusone: I have a couple of those stellaris LM4F120 eval boards in my storage waiting for me to find somewhere to set up my workshop again
[12:52] <shiftplusone> ah, nice
[12:54] <Triffid_Hunter> shiftplusone: seen the spectrum analyzer demos? they got a fourier transform with what looks like at least 32 buckets, then drawing graphics on a screen running at a good 25fps or more
[12:55] <shiftplusone> Nuh, I haven't.
[12:55] <Triffid_Hunter> y'know, we're living in an amazing age when folks are doing audio DSP + realtime video generation on what's technically classed as a 'microcontroller'
[12:55] <shiftplusone> =)
[12:56] <Triffid_Hunter> http://youtu.be/a5ZIuQRi5j0 <-- I had a way better video than this crap one, can't find it atm :/
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[12:57] <shiftplusone> I am not too familiar with how much processing power fourier transforms require, so I am not really sure I appreciate that fully, heh.
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[12:59] <davor> ah, thanks. I basically want a peripheral to the Pi
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[13:00] <Triffid_Hunter> shiftplusone: it's a metric buttload of floating point last time I checked
[13:00] <shiftplusone> ah
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[13:29] <SpeedEvil> The pi is not a slow ssytem. It can easily do relatively large FFTs.
[13:29] <SpeedEvil> At least for audio
[13:30] <Triffid_Hunter> SpeedEvil: yeah I know, we were discussing microcontrollers, specifically arm cortex-m4
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[13:31] <SpeedEvil> There are ridiculous M4s.
[13:32] <SpeedEvil> With hardware floating point now.
[13:32] <SpeedEvil> http://www.st.com/web/catalog/mmc/FM141/SC1169/SS1577/LN1806
[13:32] <SpeedEvil> Performance: At 180 MHz, the STM32F429/439 deliver 225 DMIPS/608 CoreMark performance executing from Flash memory, with 0-wait states using ST’s ART Accelerator. The DSP instructions and the floating point unit enlarge the range of addressable applications.
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[13:41] <Triffid_Hunter> SpeedEvil: yeah, the fpu is part of the -m4 core as far as I know
[13:48] * plugwash can see for certain applications, especially in the world of control systems that a microcontroller with flowing point could be very useful
[13:48] <plugwash> *floating point
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[13:49] <SpeedEvil> For exotic stuff, yeah.
[13:50] <SpeedEvil> It can boost performance a lot on stuff like large kalman filters.
[13:50] <SpeedEvil> PID controllers - not so much
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[13:55] <Triffid_Hunter> heh, big kalman was exactly one of the things I was thinking of
[13:55] <Triffid_Hunter> the DSP instructions really help with those.. simd would too but I don't think -m4 is quite that advanced
[13:56] <SpeedEvil> With over a dozen sensor channels, all updating at 50Hz or more, and 9 or more state variables - shit gets computational.
[13:56] <SpeedEvil> And yes - I have belatedly realised which channel this is.
[13:57] * SpeedEvil is in too many channels.
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[14:03] <Triffid_Hunter> SpeedEvil: "a thing" gets computational - that's a great line, needs to be in a movie
[14:05] <hid3> Davespice, shiftplusone: I've just bought one more Rpi. Looks identical to my non-working one. And this one works flawlessly. It's sad because of these things now: 1) I've spent so much money, time and my nerves to get this simple thing working 2) It's really sad I've accidently burned SD card. It wasn't mine, I have borrowed it...
[14:05] <Davespice> hey hid3
[14:06] * SpeedEvil wishes $5 accellerometers were perhaps 6 orders of magnitude better.
[14:06] <Davespice> I feel your pain
[14:06] <hid3> Last year my long term GF married another man. Looks like there are more bad things in my life rather than a broken/faulty brand-new Rpi :)
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[14:15] <Davespice> least of your worried then I guess :)
[14:15] <Davespice> but I think you may be able to send the board back to the retailer for a replacement?
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[14:17] <shiftplusone> hid3, you can definitely return the pi and get your money back
[14:18] <SpeedEvil> You can - under the distance selling directive - return anything within 10 days.
[14:18] <SpeedEvil> For no reason.
[14:19] <SpeedEvil> If the seller has not explained this to you in the required form - this goes up to 6 months.
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[14:20] <SpeedEvil> (in the EU)
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[14:24] <hid3> well, the problem is that more than 10 days have passed since I've purchased it (been busy with my work to try the Pi) and in addition to that , I lost the cheque I bought the Pi. And the law here says you must have a cheque. Stupid me, I know. But I couldn't even dream of a nightmare such might happen...
[14:25] <SpeedEvil> :/
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[14:26] <shiftplusone> hid3, you didn't buy online from an official distributor?
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[14:26] <hid3> It was an official distributur but I went straightly to the shop and got it
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[14:27] <hid3> I know I paid more
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[14:27] <shiftplusone> So you should be able to return it. I doubt they will make a big deal out of it. Especially since it's a warranty claim and not a simple return
[14:27] <hid3> well, it's worth to try but I doubt anything good will turn out of this
[14:28] <hid3> now I need to think what should I say/do with the owner of the burned SD card :)
[14:28] <shiftplusone> raccoon stole it
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[14:28] <hid3> no racoons here, sadly
[14:28] <hid3> only mice
[14:29] <Leighton> +1 raccoon and/or mice
[14:30] <shiftplusone> Right, and when you friends points out that there are no raccoons, you can ask him why he thinks you would make up such a ridiculous lie.
[14:30] <hid3> lol :)
[14:30] <shiftplusone> (or just buy a replacement for him)
[14:30] <hid3> I've looked for identical replacement and they're out of stock
[14:31] <hid3> I think I'll offer him money instead
[14:31] <shiftplusone> doesn't have to be identical
[14:31] <shiftplusone> money is harder to accept
[14:31] <Leighton> hid3: maybe grab a slightly better one? Hard to turn that down
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[14:32] <hid3> knowing this person well, I strongly believe he will not borrow anything else for me in the future. So I think I'll tell him that only his particular card worked with the raspberry and I needed it more than oxygen. So here's your money for the card :)
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[14:34] <Leighton> hid3: heh, good call
[14:34] <hid3> well
[14:34] <hid3> sadly, I don't have reliable friends
[14:34] <hid3> once my Rpi was malfunctioning
[14:35] <hid3> I've tried to borrown Power Supplies, USB cables and SD cards. As well as spare RPIs
[14:36] <shiftplusone> Given that you shorted the pi and killed the sd card, maybe a good call on your friend's part. You'd probably blow up the supply and burn the usb cable with your luck =P
[14:36] <hid3> I called one person and offered him to sell me his used Rpi for new Rpi price. He said no, because "he might need it some day". Another person of my friends tried to sell me a used and older version of pi (with 256 RAM and LAN) for price bigger than retail price for a newest version, brand new Pi w/512 MB of RAM in out local RadioShack
[14:39] <Leighton> there's a lot of tangling here lol
[14:40] <hid3> indeed
[14:40] <BCMM> hid3: i joined halfway through this conversation - are you specifically looking for a rev 1 or something?
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[14:41] <hid3> No no, I was looking for rev B with 512 MB RAM
[14:41] <hid3> but instead I got an offer to buy a used Rpi w/256 MB for a price bigger than a new retail price in a RadioShack shop (which isn't cheapo either)
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[15:36] <bluesm_> Can i run Android debug bridge on Raspberry
[15:36] <bluesm_> to "control" android device ?
[15:37] <shiftplusone> I don't see why adb wouldn't work =/ But I don't know the specifics.
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[15:43] <Triffid_Hunter> bluesm_: sure, just need to compile it for arm
[15:43] <Triffid_Hunter> unless there's an arm binary around somewhere already
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[15:53] <bluesm_> Triffid_Hunter: But the question is if adb on Android on Raspberry pi is the same adb that I want.
[15:53] <Triffid_Hunter> bluesm_: well rpi doesn't usually run android so I'm assuming you want to control some android thing with your rpi
[15:54] <bluesm_> Triffid_Hunter: You understand my question ? I wonder if this is for "server" controling device, or Raspberry pi being controled extract 7z raspb
[15:54] <bluesm_> *http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1924492
[15:54] <bluesm_> Triffid_Hunter: 6
[15:54] <Triffid_Hunter> I found all the android databases the other day.. was having all sorts of fun with sqlite on my phone over dropbear :)
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[16:47] <tuvok> hello
[16:47] <tuvok> i have a problem wir raspian and a tp-link wlan usb stick
[16:48] <tuvok> i have the version 2.0 and i have install with sudo install -p -m 644 8188eu.ko /lib/modules/3.6.11+/kernel/drivers/net/wireless the newer driver .. but i get the Message raspbian error: could not insert '8188eu' : Exec format error
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[17:32] <greyscale> So.. I'm clearly missing something. DD'd my raspian image to my SD card... Black screen.. Power light.. Green light flashes once. What stupid thing am I doing this time?
[17:33] <taza> Didja dd it to the SD card, or to the partition on the SD card?
[17:33] <greyscale> To the device, not to a partition
[17:34] <greyscale> or am I being ledumb
[17:34] <taza> Well, that's the most common thing causing those symptoms
[17:34] <taza> Accidentally writing to a partition instead of the device itself
[17:35] <greyscale> surrey:~ geusebio$ sudo dd if=~/Desktop/rpi_pisces_r3.img of=/dev/disk1 bs=1m
[17:35] <greyscale> 3720+0 records in
[17:35] <greyscale> 3720+0 records out
[17:35] <greyscale> 3900702720 bytes transferred in 2315.293599 secs (1684755 bytes/sec)
[17:35] <greyscale> (bare in mind this is a macbook, so disk1 was the device)
[17:35] <greyscale> is there anything else I need to make an SD card bootable?
[17:35] <shiftplusone> greyscale, is that the ancient 'minimal' image?
[17:35] <taza> No, the image file has everything required.
[17:36] <greyscale> shiftplusone: not sure? I went online today after finally getting the rest of my raspberry pi project and downloaded a raspian image
[17:36] <greyscale> I want to use Debian with this one, alas.
[17:36] <shiftplusone> greyscale, could you try THE raspbian image? http://downloads.raspberrypi.org/raspbian_latest
[17:37] <greyscale> Can do.. Oh jeez, slow download.
[17:37] <greyscale> 70Mbps internet, 300k download..
[17:37] <shiftplusone> I suspect the firmware on that image you got is too old to support the newer memory chips
[17:37] <taza> plugwash has his own minimal image too, for a minimal experience that actually works
[17:37] <greyscale> taza: is it debian-alike?
[17:38] <shiftplusone> I think hifi's install script is the best approach for a minimal raspbian install nowadays.
[17:38] <shiftplusone> but let's keep things as standard as possible for now
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[17:41] <hifi> taza: he does? I didn't know that
[17:41] <taza> Well, he did, a few months back at least
[17:41] <shiftplusone> http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=42667
[17:41] <taza> I've been somewhat busy with other things
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[17:42] <hifi> ah, nifty
[17:42] <shiftplusone> Last updated in may though
[17:42] <plugwash> I did release a minimal image but I didn't have time to maintain it so it's probablly a bit out of date by now
[17:43] <plugwash> hifi's installer is probablly your best bet if you want an up to date minimal system
[17:43] <greyscale> so apt-get is broken?
[17:43] <sney> no?
[17:43] <shiftplusone> not at all
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[17:44] <greyscale> So how would hifi's installer be more up to date?
[17:44] <hifi> it does a minimal netinst
[17:44] <hifi> from latest raspbian packages
[17:44] <taza> (It's faster to get up to date)
[17:44] <greyscale> Ah, so its nearer to HEAD as it were, than others.
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[17:44] <hifi> if there's a good reason I can easily rebuild the image from latest raspbian packages
[17:45] <hifi> mostly if the firmware has been updated
[17:45] <greyscale> TBH, I just want a debian netinst instance
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[17:45] <hifi> it does just that
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[17:45] <hifi> https://github.com/hifi/raspbian-ua-netinst
[17:45] <taza> greyscale: Well, get used to the standard image first, for those little quirks.
[17:46] <greyscale> I dont mind if I have to apt-get upgrade once I've got my raspberry pi to do something other than glare at me with red and not do anything
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[17:46] <shiftplusone> I don't know how it is now, but the foundation images also had a lot of modifications which are not done by any of the apt packages, so using older images could result in your system having unnecessary cruft or missing necessary cruft. I think they're better about such things now.
[17:47] <greyscale> hifi: do you have images knocking about? This download of 013-09-25-wheezy-raspbian.zip is taking forever
[17:48] <taza> Waiting is sometimes a part of using devices like this. Nobody involved can exactly throw $20mil on servers.
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[17:49] <hifi> greyscale: I just linked you it
[17:49] <greyscale> The github link? o.o
[17:49] <hifi> yes, the readme has links to prebuilt images
[17:50] <greyscale> Aha, I see. Cheers man.
[17:50] <greyscale> taza: I have a glut of bandwidth. I can create a user/domain somewhere if people want somewhere to rsync shit to
[17:51] <taza> Well, there IS a torrent link
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[17:59] <taza> OpenELEC or Raspbmc recommended nowadays?
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[18:00] <taza> I just need something to play things on an USB stick and preferably YouTube over network
[18:00] <shiftplusone> taza, I don't think one is recommended over the other. They work very differently, so it will depend on your needs.
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[18:01] <shiftplusone> If you don't mind a read only rootfs, then openelec is great.
[18:01] <sney> what's the third one? xbian?
[18:01] <taza> Yeah, I'm going for minimal maintenance and configuration for this card
[18:03] <shiftplusone> yeah, there's also xbian.
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[18:40] <greyscale> WAHEY
[18:40] <greyscale> It boots
[18:40] <greyscale> Cheers guys
[18:40] <greyscale> Rom was just very stale I guess
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[18:41] <shiftplusone> greyscale, I suspected thiss was the issue http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/3534
[18:41] <arguser> hello, is there an official channel?
[18:41] <arguser> or this is the right place
[18:41] <shiftplusone> nope, this is as official as it gets
[18:42] <arguser> thanks
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[18:42] <arguser> this is my first experience with rpi so far
[18:42] <shiftplusone> and how is it?
[18:42] <arguser> sadly im getting �entering kdb� issue
[18:42] <arguser> (using archlinuxarm)
[18:42] <shiftplusone> nice
[18:43] <arguser> yeah
[18:43] <shiftplusone> there's also #archlinux-arm, which is a good channel
[18:43] <arguser> im going for the corrupt image/sd assumtion
[18:43] <arguser> im there too, no much answer so far
[18:44] <shiftplusone> You've only asked recently, I am sure they'll get back to you.
[18:44] <shiftplusone> There you go... a boot to the head.
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[18:45] <nerdboy> arguser: what exactly is the problem?
[18:45] <shiftplusone> But yeah, I was just going to say, that the interesting message is probably BEFORE that.
[18:45] <arguser> hahah
[18:45] <arguser> nice :D
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[18:46] <arguser> is there a way to retrieve the log from the sd?
[18:46] <shiftplusone> nope, take a photo if you absolutely must.
[18:46] <shiftplusone> The right way to do it is to use serial, but I am guessing that's not an option for you right now
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[18:47] <arguser> You are guessing right
[18:47] <shiftplusone> well, I am off. Good luck with it.
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[19:52] <RahulAN> Hii all
[19:52] <RahulAN> shiftplusone: r u there..??
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[19:55] <RahulAN> can any one help...?
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[19:58] <Encrypt> RahulAN, What's your problem?
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[19:59] <RahulAN> I want to connect my Rpi with internet
[19:59] <Encrypt> To the internet?
[19:59] <RahulAN> yes
[19:59] <Encrypt> That means open ports, etc...
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[19:59] <Encrypt> Have you set any web server or something else?
[19:59] <RahulAN> I am connected to my laptop via an ethernet cable
[19:59] <Encrypt> I believe you yhave SSH enabled on it, right?
[19:59] <RahulAN> Encrypt: No..
[20:00] <Encrypt> Why?
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[20:00] <RahulAN> yes
[20:00] <Encrypt> Ah, ok :p
[20:00] <RahulAN> I dont hav external display and keyboard
[20:00] <Encrypt> RahulAN, Then you can plug your RPi on a RJ45 port on your network
[20:00] <RahulAN> i need to access internet from my laptops internet connection
[20:01] <Encrypt> to a*
[20:01] <RahulAN> I Am using USB internet dongle, not a router
[20:01] <RahulAN> and for ssh i am using static ip
[20:01] <[Saint]> I think, by this point, I've lost count of how many times, and by how many people, this question has been answered for you.
[20:02] <RahulAN> [Saint]: it wasn't working till now
[20:02] <[Saint]> That's not the fault of the answers prvided ;)
[20:02] <RahulAN> yesterday it worked..
[20:03] <[Saint]> Right, so you do what you did there - again. :)
[20:03] <RahulAN> [Saint]: you had not yet listened to my problem, and every time you think that the answer is given
[20:03] <RahulAN> https://gist.github.com/ChickenProp/3037292
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[20:03] <RahulAN> i did it by this..
[20:04] <RahulAN> Not by your answer
[20:04] <RahulAN> [Saint]: and every time you think of that you answerd.. :(
[20:04] <[Saint]> I never gave you any specific direction other than pointing you to information on network bridges and ssh tunnelling.
[20:05] * cccyRegeaneWolfe is now known as cccy_RegeaneWolf
[20:05] <[Saint]> which, if followed, would've worked for you as itdoes for many others. :)
[20:05] <RahulAN> yes.. but if i didnt get it, and it do not work in my case
[20:05] <RahulAN> [Saint]: I too wants to be done..
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[20:06] <RahulAN> yesterday by this link i achieved success.., but now the same problem
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[20:06] <tuvok> can anybody help me i have problems with connect to my wlan with dhcp http://pastebin.com/tWgtMWvs http://pastebin.com/3zbLA0mK
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[20:13] <RahulAN> can it be resolved..?
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[20:52] <hydrospell> ping betz
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[20:58] <bluesm_> Does one the rasbian there is RPi.GPIO library in python ? as default ?
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[21:09] <bluesm_> Sorry for stupid question
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[21:22] <flufmnstr> why is it so hard to find the headers for 3.2.11?!?!
[21:22] <stevarino_> is anyone familiar with the php-gpio project? https://github.com/ronanguilloux/php-gpio if so, is there any easy way to receive inputs? or should i just try to parse exec("gpio readall")
[21:22] <flufmnstr> i looked them up before a few months ago, now i cant even find the old rpi debian install page
[21:22] <flufmnstr> did someone update the internet and not tell me?!
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[21:25] <flufmnstr> also, how can i have a kernal version that apparently diesnt exist?
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[21:26] <flufmnstr> nothing rpi related ive been able to search up seems to even know about kernel 3.2.11
[21:26] <flufmnstr> how is that freaking possible?!?
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[21:41] <bluesm_> Can i make the sensitivity of pin to be less sensitive ?
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[21:43] <gordonDrogon> you can alter the voltage it triggers on if that's what you mean - you use a pair of resistors..
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[21:50] <rikkib> Otherwise known as a voltage divider
[21:50] <Encrypt> Or you can use a couple of diodes \o/
[21:51] <Encrypt> Or a zener diode in reverse
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[22:04] <flufmnstr> which ARM system type is the RPi? i know its a breadcom chip(IIRC), but is it the BCMRING or BCM2708
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[22:05] <Xark> flufmnstr: BCM2835
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[22:05] <Xark> flufmnstr: Which includes ARM1176JZF-S 700 MHz
[22:06] <flufmnstr> aaaaand its not on the list
[22:06] <Xark> flufmnstr: Hint: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raspberry_Pi
[22:06] <flufmnstr> ffs how freaking hard does it have to be to build a simple module for a simple dmx usb converter?!
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[22:07] <flufmnstr> apparnelty i have to upgrade my kernel because 3.2.11 is lost in the viod of time. but i cant do that because it has no idea what arch im using
[22:08] <flufmnstr> getting real tired if your ****, pi
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[22:17] <flufmnstr> so instead of getting help i get kicked. yep. definatly on IRC
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[22:18] <gordonDrogon> Channel Rules: http://tiny.cc/h7za1w
[22:18] <gordonDrogon> read them.
[22:19] <[Saint]> On the topic of "getting help", the one question you asked was answered.
[22:19] <[Saint]> The rest were venting statements.
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[22:20] <[Saint]> whoah - geez, that came through late.
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[22:58] <bluesm_> Can I stop put power on the one of usb port /
[22:58] <bluesm_> ?
[23:00] <gordonDrogon> with a soldering iron and a sharp knife... probably.
[23:00] <gordonDrogon> assuming I read your text as "can I turn off power on one usb port"
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[23:03] <Encrypt> gordonDrogon, By the way...
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[23:03] <Encrypt> It's just impossible to stop powering a USB port on the Raspberry Pi?
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[23:04] <gordonDrogon> are you asking a Q or making a statement?
[23:04] <gordonDrogon> I'm not sure what you mean, however it is possible to turn off the USB power on a Rev 2 Pi via software.
[23:05] <Encrypt> gordonDrogon, Yes, that was a quetion :)
[23:05] <gordonDrogon> ok - well see above.
[23:05] <Encrypt> Yes, thanks :)
[23:05] <gordonDrogon> but that wil lturn off power to both ports.
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[23:05] <gordonDrogon> let me boot a Pi up and I'll get the command to do so. (I've been away for a week).
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[23:12] <gordonDrogon> echo 0x0 > /sys/devices/platform/bcm2708_usb/buspower
[23:13] <gordonDrogon> that'll turn usb power off.
[23:13] <gordonDrogon> it's not 100% effective on a Rev 1 Pi due to an issue with the PCB layout.
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[23:14] <gordonDrogon> note that turning usb power off will power-down the Ethernet interface too.
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[23:25] <Encrypt> gordonDrogon, Does it safely unmout the peripherals before doing so?
[23:25] <Encrypt> I imagine it doesn't...
[23:25] <Encrypt> unmount*
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[23:27] <gordonDrogon> nope.
[23:27] <gordonDrogon> but it's no worse than just unplugging them.
[23:30] <Encrypt> Ok, thanks :)
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