#raspberrypi IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2013-10-20

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[1:02] <Vialas> hia all
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[1:04] <thebeagle> hia
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[1:05] <Vialas> how you going thebeagle
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[1:08] <thebeagle> I'm pretty good
[1:08] <thebeagle> coding away
[1:08] <thebeagle> had a relaxing saturday
[1:09] <thebeagle> how about you?
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[1:46] <RelicDK> It seems to me that "ifstatus" is not available for Raspberry Pi. Does anyone know of an alternative service to monitor network usage...?
[1:49] * plugwash suspects it will work fine if you build it from source
[1:49] <gschanuel> hi folks.. i'm trying to use rpi and arduino to send and receive 433mhz . On my rPi, i plugged the transmitter on physical pins 2, 6 and 11. (vcc, ground and data). On Arduino I plugged the receiver on vcc, ground and pin 2. I got some tips from here http://ninjablocks.com/blogs/how-to/7506204-adding-433-to-your-raspberry-pi
[1:49] <RelicDK> plug - i have no idea how to do that.. isn't that difficult..?
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[1:50] <gschanuel> i'm running this command on rpi "while [ true ] ; do ./codesend 12345123 ; sleep 1s; done"
[1:50] <gschanuel> on arduino I'm using the rc-switch RFsniffer sample
[1:51] <gschanuel> my receiver has 4 pins.. VCC DATA DATA GND
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[2:23] <gschanuel> ok.. I just tested.. arduino IS listening and receiving codes, but raspberry is not sending
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[3:04] <th1> question, I just ordered MP2 and VC1 keys for one of my boards, then I get this PDF saying "Your key will be generated within 72 hours and emailed", does it really take 72 hours?? and why doesn't it get sent instantly??
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[3:04] <Triffid_Hunter> th1: it's a manual process apparently
[3:05] <Triffid_Hunter> th1: they were pretty punctual with mine, came within 24hrs
[3:05] <th1> how annoying
[3:05] <th1> you'd think when they can set up this production system, they could set up an automated keygen!
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[3:05] <Triffid_Hunter> th1: I suspect the keygen is some horrific windows-only crapware from broadcom
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[3:06] <th1> even that should be scriptable
[3:06] <th1> just annoyed because I just setup xbmc (openelec) and it seems so awesome and I wanted to try it at once
[3:07] <th1> what a cool experience that was btw, plugged it in, found that my SmartTV had a USB port with 1A supply (for HDD's), and that the "remote-over-HDMI" worked out of the box
[3:07] <Triffid_Hunter> th1: I ordered my keys same time as I ordered my rpi
[3:07] <th1> so it booted into the config wizard and worked immediately
[3:07] <th1> with the TV's remote!
[3:08] <Tachyon`> ah yes, HDMI-CEC, that's quite nice
[3:08] <th1> Triffid_Hunter, I never thought I'd use it for this sort of thing
[3:08] <Tachyon`> my LG TV does it
[3:08] <th1> I thought I'd use them for various electronic projects
[3:08] <Tachyon`> although the manufacturers all seem to have their own name for the same technology
[3:08] <th1> yes
[3:08] <th1> the xbmc wiki has a list of the names
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[5:10] <dheeraj> Hiii all
[5:10] <Tonbi_ko> hellllllllllllllllllo aaaaaaaaaaaall
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[6:34] <Datalink> this is a more general linux question, one of my scripts keeps having it's process killed, it's a server so it should run 'forever'. I don't know why it's killing the process, any thoughts?
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[6:47] <Triffid_Hunter> Datalink: check dmesg for oom-killer
[6:48] <Triffid_Hunter> Datalink: or sigsegv or similar
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[7:00] <dheeraj> Hii all
[7:00] <dheeraj> Now i can access internet connection
[7:00] <dheeraj> over Rpi
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[7:00] <dheeraj> :)
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[7:02] <Datalink> Triffid_Hunter, yeah, it's an OOM... blah
[7:02] <dheeraj> But now i want to run client and server program on rpi and linux machine
[7:02] <dheeraj> but i am getting an error
[7:03] <dheeraj> connection refused
[7:05] <Triffid_Hunter> Datalink: your server leaking, or the rpi simply doesn't have enough?
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[7:09] <Datalink> Triffid_Hunter, actually this is my virtual host, and my minecraft server, I figured the question's a common enough issue to ask here though, thanks for your help
[7:10] <shiftplusone> How many folks on your mc server?
[7:11] <Datalink> 3 typically... I need to get dedicated hardware one of these days
[7:11] <shiftplusone> A bit pricey
[7:12] <shiftplusone> (if you want it hosted elsewhere)
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[7:18] <dheeraj> any suggestion..??
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[7:18] <Datalink> dheeraj, firewall set up to allow the port through?
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[7:18] <shiftplusone> dheeraj, haven't we been over this already?
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[7:25] <dheeraj> shiftplusone: No, :) this is new.. :)
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[7:25] <shiftplusone> dheeraj, ah ok, Just looked up, Means you are connecting to the wrong IP, the firewall is blocking the connection or ssh is disabled.
[7:26] <shiftplusone> (that last one is very unlikely)
[7:26] <dheeraj> SSH is enabled
[7:26] <dheeraj> i dont know what to give in argument
[7:27] <shiftplusone> ssh pi@ip
[7:27] <dheeraj> yes its working..
[7:27] <dheeraj> but i want to run a c program
[7:27] <dheeraj> on Rpi
[7:27] <shiftplusone> and?
[7:27] <dheeraj> which sends data to my linux machine's C program
[7:28] <shiftplusone> K, I am a bit busy, I'll let someone else take this one.
[7:28] <dheeraj> Yes :)
[7:28] <dheeraj> please
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[7:31] <shiftplusone> (They may be a little more helpful if you provide all of the information, the steps you have taken, what you expect to happen and the errors you are getting.)
[7:36] <rikkib> dheeraj, netcat (ncat)
[7:36] <shiftplusone> ah, I see. I am an idiot =)
[7:37] <rikkib> Have you had that verified? :)
[7:37] <shiftplusone> self evident enough
[7:38] <rikkib> ahhh
[7:38] <shiftplusone> http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2011/12/c-socket-programming/
[7:38] <rikkib> Do you have a reference point or just in general?
[7:38] <rikkib> ahhh
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[7:38] <rikkib> easy in c really
[7:39] <rikkib> I learn in java
[7:39] <shiftplusone> ew... didn't see you as a java guy.
[7:39] <rikkib> learnt
[7:39] <rikkib> I do many
[7:40] <rikkib> js php html5 css c asm
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[7:41] <rikkib> os linux, windows, FreeRTOS, embedded
[7:41] <dheeraj_> I just want to run program named client.c on rpi which sends the string to my linux machine where i am running a program server.c
[7:42] <rikkib> netcat
[7:42] <rikkib> It is easy
[7:42] <dheeraj_> How to use netcat
[7:42] <rikkib> Install it
[7:43] <dheeraj_> On rpi..??
[7:43] <rikkib> I think it is ncat on the rpi and other distros
[7:43] <dheeraj_> you mean nc ..??
[7:43] <rikkib> You install it on both machines and it acts as client server
[7:43] <rikkib> yep
[7:44] <rikkib> I have used it
[7:44] <dheeraj_> i tried but it do no sends me any word i type on next side
[7:44] <rikkib> It does work...
[7:45] <rikkib> just hard to figure out the config at first
[7:45] <dheeraj_> it shows a blank line there
[7:45] <shiftplusone> dheeraj_, netcat is the simplest way, but you can also do it straight from C http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2011/12/c-socket-programming/
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[7:46] <dheeraj_> shiftplusone: i am reading the same link
[7:47] <shiftplusone> So if you are getting connection refused, that means the server is not accepting the connection.
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[7:47] <dheeraj_> yes.. :?
[7:48] <shiftplusone> So.... without more information, nobody can help.
[7:48] <dheeraj_> what more information you need
[7:48] <dheeraj_> ??
[7:48] <shiftplusone> No need to get snappy. Your code would be a start.
[7:49] <dheeraj_> :) Ohkk
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[7:53] <dheeraj_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6268342/
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[7:55] <shiftplusone> And the receiving end?
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[7:56] <dheeraj_> one sec
[7:57] <dheeraj_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6268365/
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[8:02] <shiftplusone> Don't see any obvious problems =(
[8:03] <dheeraj_> Hmm, these codes were running fine on the terminals..
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[8:04] <dheeraj_> but i dont know how to run them on different machine
[8:05] <dheeraj_> *machines
[8:07] <dheeraj_> shiftplusone: what to do?? :(
[8:07] <shiftplusone> No idea, sorry, I don't have the time to try it myself right now. =(
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[8:09] <dheeraj_> shiftplusone: Okk :/
[8:09] <dheeraj_> any one else please help...
[8:10] <shiftplusone> There are channels like ##c and ##linux, but asking in those might be worse than not asking.
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[8:18] <shiftplusone> rikkib, are you still around? I am having some trouble trying to figure out timing on the STM32F4.
[8:18] <rikkib> yep
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[8:19] <shiftplusone> Do you know of a reliable way to get the time between two events. I see how to get seconds and such, but something like the number of clock cycles would be ideal.
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[8:20] <rikkib> Hmmmm Let me think
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[8:21] <rikkib> The normal way is to store the time in milli's and compare
[8:21] <shiftplusone> (it doesn't actually have to be clock cycles, but something that can handle an 18kHz signal accurately.
[8:22] <rikkib> Does the machine have rtc?
[8:22] <shiftplusone> yeah
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[8:23] <rikkib> But you want fast
[8:23] <shiftplusone> The only way I can think of is to get set up a timer with whatever prescaler I need and increment a variable
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[8:23] <rikkib> Hmmm
[8:24] <rikkib> Don't think I know about that sort of stuff
[8:25] <shiftplusone> Alright, thanks for giving it a go though. I'll see how I go with the timer.
[8:25] <rikkib> I guess the best way is interupt driven
[8:26] <rikkib> Got to go in do some gardening
[8:26] <shiftplusone> have fun
[8:26] <rikkib> dusk
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[10:49] <Phirel> I created a Minecraft pi edition patch that enables survival mode. Can someone try it out to see if it works?
[10:50] <Phirel> Here is the link:http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/2035992-survival-mode-patch/
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[11:10] <ParkerR> Phirel, Will be glad to
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[11:11] <ParkerR> Phirel, While you at it make it so you can click the window even when maximized :P
[11:12] <ParkerR> Phirel, May sound weird but how do I actually apply the patch?
[11:13] <shiftplusone> ParkerR, http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1112628-mod-patching/ I am guessing
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[11:14] <ParkerR> Hmm
[11:16] <ParkerR> Still doesnt really say where these files are that I have to change
[11:17] <shiftplusone> I was hoping you wouldn't notice that. >.>
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[11:18] <ParkerR> :P
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[11:23] <Phirel> Just got back
[11:23] <Phirel> You need to use a ptpatch utility
[11:23] <Phirel> I'll get the link
[11:23] <ParkerR> shiftplusone posted a link
[11:23] <ParkerR> Will that work?
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[11:23] <Phirel> I think that one will work
[11:24] <ParkerR> github link is down :/
[11:25] <Phirel> I'll try to find it
[11:25] <ShorTie> is the patch a diff ??
[11:25] <Phirel> sort of
[11:26] <Phirel> it's a different format
[11:26] <Phirel> https://github.com/joshhuelsman/PTPatchTools/downloads
[11:26] <Phirel> that link worked for me
[11:27] <ShorTie> patch -p1 < thepatch.diff, of course -p1 might need adjusting to find the file
[11:27] <Phirel> that is for a text patch, not a binary one.
[11:27] <ShorTie> oh, ok
[11:28] <ParkerR> Ok so what do I actually run
[11:28] <Phirel> I'll get the command
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[11:31] <Phirel> you should backup minecraft-pi and then run this: "java -jar patchtool.jar patch minecraft-pi survivalpatch.mod"
[11:31] <Phirel> in the mcpi directory
[11:31] <ParkerR> Ok launching now
[11:31] <Phirel> it should have a different menu
[11:32] <ParkerR> Umm
[11:32] <ParkerR> Menu looks the same
[11:32] <Phirel> but make sure to fully close the game after you start it before reopening it again
[11:32] <Phirel> it should be slightly different
[11:33] <Phirel> I know what's wrong
[11:33] <Phirel> did you put survivalpatch.mod in the mcpi folder?
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[11:33] <ParkerR> Yes
[11:34] <Phirel> did you start the game?
[11:34] <ParkerR> Yes
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[11:34] <Phirel> I'm going to try something
[11:34] <Phirel> I think I messed up when running the diff tool
[11:38] <Phirel> try downloading it again
[11:38] <Phirel> and run the same command
[11:39] <ShorTie> would it not just be easier to just change out the binary instead of trying to patch it ??
[11:40] <Phirel> it's illegal to distribute it, that's why I can only give out the patch
[11:40] <ParkerR> Still looks the same
[11:40] <Phirel> maybe the patch tool isn't working
[11:40] <Phirel> Do you have binary diff or bdiff installed on the raspberry pi
[11:40] <ParkerR> What patch tool are you using?
[11:40] <Phirel> ptpatch, but bdiff works better
[11:40] <Phirel> I haven't used ptpatch before
[11:41] <Phirel> I just used the binary that I made
[11:41] <ParkerR> No
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[11:41] <Phirel> I'm using the one from github
[11:42] <ParkerR> Wait bsdiff?
[11:42] <Phirel> bdiff not bsdiff, it's a program to create a binary patch file
[11:44] <Phirel> I'm going to try to figure out why the patching tool isn't working.
[11:46] <gordonDrogon> morning.
[11:46] <Vialas> morning gordonDrogon
[11:47] <shiftplusone> gordonDrogon, Hey, where have you been missing?
[11:48] <ShorTie> mornin
[11:49] <gordonDrogon> been on a bit of a family break/holiday thing.
[11:49] <gordonDrogon> glad to be back home though
[11:50] <Phirel> the patching tool is broken.
[11:50] <Phirel> I'm going to try to find the old version
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[11:52] <Phirel> I found one which should work
[11:52] <Phirel> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1682682-snows-tools/
[11:53] <Phirel> let me check it first
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[11:58] <Phirel> it looks like it is working.
[12:00] <lord4163> Does anyone have Plex installed on their Pi?
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[12:05] <ParkerR> Phirel, What do I run
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[12:05] <Phirel> I don't know yet.
[12:05] <Phirel> The other one isn't working either
[12:05] <Phirel> do you have bsdiff installed?
[12:05] <Phirel> that might work best.
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[12:06] <Phirel> it needs libbz2-dev and it might have a bug in the makefile
[12:06] <ParkerR> I thought you said not bsdiff
[12:06] <Phirel> http://www.daemonology.net/bsdiff/bsdiff-4.3.tar.gz
[12:06] <Phirel> I was talking about bdiff before
[12:06] <Phirel> but it was outdated
[12:06] <Phirel> bsdiff is probably the best option.
[12:06] <ParkerR> bsdiffis sinatlled
[12:06] <ParkerR> *bsdiff
[12:07] <Phirel> what?
[12:07] <ParkerR> Its installed
[12:07] <ParkerR> What do I do
[12:07] <Phirel> First I'll make the patch.
[12:07] <Phirel> using bsdiff
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[12:09] <ParkerR> Hooray for custom Pi cases http://minecrafted.mooo.com/pictures/1020030556.jpg
[12:09] <Phirel> https://dl.dropbox.com/s/iutdy9yrtg3cgic/survival.bsdiff
[12:09] <Phirel> /root/bsdiff-4.3/bspatch minecraft-pi mcsurvival survival.bsdiff
[12:09] <Vialas> ohhhhh
[12:10] <Phirel> bspatch minecraft-pi minecraft-pisurvival2 survival.bsdiff
[12:10] <Vialas> fioretk421fc
[12:10] <Vialas> :)
[12:10] <Vialas> where is the home key
[12:10] <Vialas> rofl
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[12:10] <Vialas> oh nice case
[12:10] <Vialas> what was that
[12:10] <Vialas> it looks familiar
[12:10] <Phirel> then you can run minecraft-pisurvival2
[12:11] <Vialas> what is minecraft-pisurvival2 Phirel ?
[12:11] <Phirel> the file that is going to be created with the patch
[12:11] <Phirel> It was named that on my computer
[12:11] <Phirel> I had like 15 copies of mcpi
[12:12] <Phirel> it's the minecraft pi patch that I made
[12:12] <Phirel> It's for survival mode.
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[12:12] <Vialas> ohhh right
[12:12] <Vialas> cool Phirel
[12:12] <Vialas> i tried to make my pi a minecraft server
[12:12] <Vialas> but it didnt work so well :(
[12:13] <ParkerR> Phirel, Oh wow so ripped the UI right out of PE? :P
[12:13] <Phirel> I didn't
[12:13] <Phirel> It was already in it
[12:13] <Phirel> It was just locked.
[12:13] <ParkerR> Oh neat
[12:14] <ParkerR> :DDD
[12:14] <ParkerR> Digging some dirt
[12:14] <ParkerR> Oh wow its pretty much PE now
[12:15] <Phirel> the api still works too
[12:15] <ParkerR> Fall damage works
[12:15] <Phirel> but I can't figure out how to make mobs killable
[12:15] <Phirel> tnt and sand will kill them
[12:15] <Phirel> but you can't hit them.
[12:16] <ParkerR> Havent spotted any mobs yet
[12:16] <Phirel> look around, they should be in there.
[12:16] <Phirel> Also, if you hexedit the map and change the gamemode to 0, it will go to night and day.
[12:17] <ParkerR> Baby cow :D
[12:17] <Phirel> just don't exit the game to the main menu
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[12:18] <Phirel> and them start the game again
[12:18] <Phirel> If you do it will segfault
[12:18] <Phirel> you have to fully close it to start it again
[12:18] <Phirel> I had to swap the CreatorMode and SurvivalMode Vtables.
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[12:19] <ParkerR> Phirel, Another annoyance. This is both for the old binary and the new. When you maximize the window walking around and digging works but once you go the menu or iitem screen the mouse still thinks its in the old window size. You cant move the mouse over the entire area when maximized
[12:19] <ParkerR> *item
[12:20] <Phirel> I'm still working on fixing that.
[12:20] <ParkerR> Ok sweet
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[12:21] <Phirel> It took me around a month to get the whole thing working this far. It shouldn't take too long to fix the GUI problem.
[12:21] <Phirel> the animals might take longer though.
[12:21] <Phirel> I spent 3 days looking for the animal problem and I couldn't find it.
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[12:22] <Phirel> It's probably one of the class variables which sadly don't have any correlation to the strings.
[12:22] <Phirel> *doesn't
[12:22] <Phirel> The world generator also has ores too.
[12:23] <Phirel> I found that out by making a 20 block long by 40 block down plane of tnt.
[12:23] <Phirel> then I blew it up, which lagged for half a minute.
[12:23] <Phirel> I then saw that ore was spawning.
[12:25] <Phirel> The trick to activating survival mode was making the game think that the main menu was the touch screen version.
[12:26] <ParkerR> Phirel, Well it already had ores even in stock creative
[12:26] <ParkerR> They just werent used for anything
[12:27] <Phirel> I wasn't sure, there might of been.
[12:27] <Phirel> I haven't played much of the PE version.
[12:27] <ParkerR> Yeah I remember digging around
[12:29] <Phirel> Another problem is the right mouse button.
[12:30] <Phirel> Sometimes it gets stuck when using a crafting table or a furnace.
[12:30] <Phirel> You have to right click quickly to get it unstuck.
[12:30] <shiftplusone> Phirel, the pi edition is in C, not java, right?
[12:30] <Phirel> It's in C++
[12:30] <Phirel> C++ is really hard to disassemble
[12:30] <Phirel> But it is more organized.
[12:31] <shiftplusone> ah, 'course
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[12:45] <th1> hi guys, should I put a heatsink on my Raspberry Pi if I use "modest" overclock setting?
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[12:51] <Vialas> hmm that is a good q th1 , i also would like to know the answer to that. ….
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[12:52] <Tachyon`> wel, my 512 works fine at 1GHz with no additional cooling at all
[12:53] <Tachyon`> so I'd say probably not unless you live on the surface of the sun (or texas)
[12:53] <th1> mine works fine with 800 but I am more thinking long term damage
[12:53] <Tachyon`> well, ther than the usual migration there shouldn' tbe any
[12:54] <Tachyon`> and the migration would take years to become a problem
[12:54] <th1> I'm using it for OpenELEC/XBMC and I found 800 gives fine results so no need to overclock further really
[12:54] <Tachyon`> then use 800, I mentioend 1024 only because it worked here (and was needed ot get full HD out of gngeo)
[12:55] <th1> Tachyon`, did you do audio decode as well since you needed 1024 for 1080p?
[12:55] <Tachyon`> video and audio, 50/60fps
[12:56] <Tachyon`> at 1024
[12:56] <th1> ok, I only pass audio through
[12:56] <Tachyon`> the reason it needed 1024 is gngeo has no graphics acceleration
[12:56] <th1> right
[12:56] <Tachyon`> so the resize to 1280x960 or w/e was in software
[12:56] <gordonDrogon> th1, no heatsink required.
[12:56] <th1> why were you downscaling?
[12:57] <th1> thanks gordonDrogon
[12:57] <gordonDrogon> th1, the chip is designed to run at up to 85C.
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[12:57] <th1> so heatsink is only needed if I overclock aggressively and it throttles due to temperature?
[12:57] <Tachyon`> http://www.pokenet.co.uk/misc/images.hardware.new/thepineogeo.jpg
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[12:58] <Tachyon`> if it's throttling due to temperature
[12:58] <Tachyon`> it should be safe enough
[12:58] <th1> Tachyon` ahh for arcade emulation
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[13:00] <Tachyon`> well, neo geo was both arcade and home system, but yes
[13:01] <Tachyon`> that was my first 256MB pi too
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[13:14] <gordonDrogon> has anyone actually had a Pi throttle due to temperature? I've never heard of one - doesn't mean they haven't, but ...
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[13:14] <gordonDrogon> A few of my Pi's are mostly inside enclosed cases too - Pibows
[13:14] <Triffid_Hunter> pretty sure I'd need to hose mine with the SMD reflow gun to trigger that
[13:15] <shiftplusone> for science
[13:15] <shiftplusone> or just lower the limit in the config
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[13:16] <ShadowJK> why do they mean about rPi noir being for special circumstances
[13:17] <Tachyon`> probably mean don't use it to run life support machines, nuclear power stations or spacecraft
[13:17] <ShadowJK> does that mean everyone can't buy one
[13:17] <ShadowJK> the whole article on theinquirer makes me go "???"
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[13:30] <gordonDrogon> got a link to it? I rarely read the inq.
[13:30] <gordonDrogon> ah, going it.
[13:30] <gordonDrogon> er, found it.
[13:31] <shiftplusone> which one?
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[13:32] <gordonDrogon> http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2301605/raspberry-pi-foundation-shines-a-light-on-pi-noir
[13:33] <gordonDrogon> I think the special circumstances is just a refernce that an IR camera is not really for everyday use.
[13:33] <gordonDrogon> not a comment on the Pi itself.
[13:33] <gordonDrogon> The Pi noir is the camera, not the Pi.
[13:35] <Tachyon`> I have teh oridiary camera
[13:35] <Tachyon`> is an IR one that with a filter removed?
[13:36] <SpeedEvil> I wish the camera interface was open.
[13:36] <ShadowJK> yes
[13:37] <SpeedEvil> So we could just connect any CSI camera.
[13:37] <SpeedEvil> (which meets whatever the hardware limits are)
[13:37] <ShadowJK> gordonDrogon; what does he mean with the rpi crowd being pragmatic?
[13:37] <ShadowJK> And like...
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[13:38] <ShadowJK> does he want people to buy the filterfre module or not just for fun?
[13:42] <gordonDrogon> ShadowJK, I'm really not sure - I wonder if they meant using the Pi noir camera on other devices, but who knows.
[13:43] <gordonDrogon> I do know that lots of people are using the Pi to do a lot of "backyard" science projects though - even some "serious" stuff like security, etc.
[13:43] <ShadowJK> then he wouldn't be talking about the rpi crowd, though?
[13:43] <gordonDrogon> I really don't know.
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[13:44] <gordonDrogon> I can only guess at the interpretation of that article as much as you - and I'm sure there is some "journalistic" changes there too, but who knows.
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[13:48] <Phirel> I think I might know how to fix the Minecraft PI invulnerable animal problem. I'm going to go work on fixing that.
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[13:51] <SpeedEvil> On a related topic to security.
[13:51] <SpeedEvil> Has anyone got a USB cam to work flawlessly - not resetting or crashing or producing wierd output - 24*7 for months at a time?
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[14:37] <Nefarious___> I've had a good think and after a while, I thought, "I used my pi as a webserver, how boring" I've managed to think up a good project; but is it possible? To use a raspberry pi as an onboard flight computer on an rc plane. using GPS etc to calculate flight paths, time and so on.
[14:38] <Triffid_Hunter> Nefarious___: yeah sure, but an arduino is generally adequate for that task
[14:38] <Nefarious___> Triffid_Hunter: in what respect?
[14:39] <Nefarious___> the gps shield?
[14:39] <Triffid_Hunter> Nefarious___: you can hook a radio, gps receiver, various instrumentation etc to an arduino and have it fly your plane. added bonus is that they have a lot of silicon specifically designed to make tasks such as servo control signal generation super easy
[14:39] <Triffid_Hunter> should be able to do it with rpi I think, ask google about controlling hobby servos with your rpi
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[14:40] <Nefarious___> Triffid_Hunter: thanks a lot :) I'll take the advice and look around.
[14:41] * Nefarious___ reads " The Pi won't be able to supply enough current to drive any but the smallest of hobby servos"
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[14:41] <Triffid_Hunter> Nefarious___: you don't supply them power from the rpi
[14:42] <Nefarious___> use a battery
[14:42] <Triffid_Hunter> just the signal that tells them where to go
[14:42] <gordonDrogon> you'd typically use a "UBEC" to supply power to the electronics from the flight control batterys.
[14:42] <gordonDrogon> (universal battery eliminator circuit).
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[14:42] <Triffid_Hunter> except you'll also want a failsafe buffer I'd say.. little thing that goes between, and makes the plane land safely if your controller freaks out (or radio loses signal, etc)
[14:43] <gordonDrogon> in otherworlds we call them SMPS devices(switch mode power supplies) same thing, different name.
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[14:43] <Triffid_Hunter> heh yeah I got a 5A ubec from hobbyking mostly to see what was in it, they'd stuck two 3A switchers in parallel
[14:44] <Nefarious___> ah sweet, thanks again :)
[14:46] <Triffid_Hunter> Nefarious___: http://youtu.be/w2itwFJCgFQ may spur your imagination as well
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[14:48] <Nefarious___> oh my God
[14:48] <Nefarious___> that is just great
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[14:49] <Triffid_Hunter> Nefarious___: http://youtu.be/YQIMGV5vtd4 too
[14:50] <Nefarious___> now I want to make one ;)
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[15:23] <SpeedEvil> '<Triffid_Hunter> except you'll also want a failsafe buffer I'd say.. little thing that goes between, and makes the plane land safely if your controller freaks out (or radio loses signal, etc)'
[15:23] <SpeedEvil> they should totally fit those to 747s.
[15:23] <SpeedEvil> And 'makes the plane land safely' is somewhat optimistic.
[15:24] <SpeedEvil> 'may make it somewhat less likely to crash violently if you happen to be over a flat area and have lots of altitude to recover in'
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[15:55] <lord4163> Can I run Plex on Raspbian!?
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[16:06] <lord4163> ?
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[16:07] <Koopz> anyone using Noobs?
[16:08] <Koopz> as far as i understood it can be used as a multiboot-thingy like Berryboot?
[16:08] <lord4163> Koopz: Raspbian
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[16:09] <Koopz> would i be able to install gamepad drivers on NOOBS in order to control the OS selection via controller?
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[16:09] <Koopz> my tv unfortunately doesn't support CEC and i don't really want to use keyboards
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[16:13] <Koopz> suggestions?
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[16:16] <Koopz> well... i guess i'm forced to use a keyboard/mouse for OS selection then... and still need to make my controller work on Raspbmc..
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[16:42] <lord4163> What DLNA daemon should I install on my raspberry pi for streaming from my Synology NAS?
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[16:44] <Tonbi_ko> use minidlna .
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[16:47] <lord4163> Tonbi_ko: I'll try that one :-)
[16:47] <lord4163> Tonbi_ko: Do you have a Synology NAS?
[16:47] <Tonbi_ko> I use Ras-pi NAS
[16:47] <Tonbi_ko> for dlna server
[16:48] <Tonbi_ko> I use
[16:48] <Tonbi_ko> USB2.0Disk - Raspberry pi samba & DLNA server - cient machine
[16:49] <Tonbi_ko> its okay.
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[16:50] <lord4163> Tonbi_ko: Oh but MiniDLNA can be used as client?
[16:50] <Tonbi_ko> no
[16:50] <Tonbi_ko> miniDLNA is only for client
[16:50] <Tonbi_ko> no sorry
[16:50] <Tonbi_ko> miniDLNA is only for server
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[16:53] <lord4163> Tonbi_ko: But I want to use my raspberry pi as media renderer, what should I use for that?
[16:53] <Jusii> xbmc
[16:54] <Tonbi_ko> yes, i think xbmc too
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[16:55] <lord4163> yeah but I don't want to run such a heavy application just to play some music :P
[16:55] <Tonbi_ko> you must buy next Raspberry pi =)
[16:56] <Tonbi_ko> buy 1 more =)
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[16:58] <picca> is there a distribution for raspberrypi that has SSH setup and running by default .. i am wondering if i can avoid buying a keyboard
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[16:59] <IT_Sean> picca: raspbian has SSH on by default
[16:59] <lord4163> picca: I think Raspbian has it on by default
[16:59] <picca> excellent thanks IT_Sean
[16:59] <IT_Sean> Aye.
[16:59] <Tonbi_ko> keyborad for RSPI is only for temp use.
[17:00] <Tonbi_ko> buy some usb keyborad with 5USD.
[17:00] <andreiiar> I bought a cheap keyboard and could use it like 2 days. Now is not working anymore. But my raspi is.
[17:00] <picca> Tonbi_ko: i was wondering if i really needed to get one .. if SSH is on by default then that should be fine for me as i only want to run irssi on it
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[17:03] <IT_Sean> you should be fine then
[17:03] <IT_Sean> you can SSH in, do the initial setup, and be good to go
[17:03] <IT_Sean> and on that...
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[17:13] <ponA> hi, my raspberry pi won't update the time, but it is connected to the internet
[17:14] <ponA> currently the CEST time is off by 2 hours
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[17:15] <ponA> how can i force the pi to update its time via ntp?
[17:16] <pksato> ponA: that is output off date -u ?
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[17:17] <ponA> no, UTC time is 4hours off
[17:17] <ponA> i selected germany/berlin as time zone
[17:17] <ponA> i also tried to reboot the pi, but no update at reboot
[17:19] <ponA> is there a way to call the update script from the shell?
[17:19] <ponA> maybe it would output some errors
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[17:20] <pksato> /etc/init.d/ntp stop; ntpdate-debian ; /etc/init.d/ntp start; date
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[17:22] <ponA> sudo: ntpdate-debian: command not found
[17:24] <ponA> pksato: any hint on that?
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[17:33] <pksato> /etc/init.d/ntp stop; ntpdate pool.ntp.org ; /etc/init.d/ntp start; date
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[17:40] <gordonDrogon> more likely the timezone is wrong.
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[17:40] <gordonDrogon> run sudo raspi-config and check.
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[17:41] <Nefarious___> sudo dpkg-reconfigure tzdata
[17:41] <Nefarious___> but he said time zone was right
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[17:47] <fps> hi. a friend built a dmx controller board following https://wiki.raumzeitlabor.de/wiki/RpiDMX [with changes so it uses the correct voltage]
[17:48] <fps> now i wonder how to talk to it. i guess it should be exposed via a serial device
[17:48] <fps> using archlinux for arm. is the correct device /dev/ttyAMA0?
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[18:06] <gordonDrogon> fps, /dev/ttyAMA0 is the Pi's on-board serial port.
[18:09] <fps> gordonDrogon: ok. i thought that this board maybe hooked onto that..
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[18:12] <fps> also there seem to be no ttyS...
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[18:14] <ponA> pksato: sorry, i was afk, i tried ntpdate pool.ntp.org, it responded -bash: ntpdate: command not found
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[18:14] <ParkerR> Nothing like pianobar and compiling.
[18:15] <ParkerR> All on the Pi :D
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[18:18] <fps> gordonDrogon: justto be clear: that's the serial interface in the GPIO?
[18:18] <fps> gordonDrogon: if so then that's what i need to use..
[18:20] <gordonDrogon> yes /dev/ttyAMA0 is part of the GPIO connector.
[18:20] <fps> ok
[18:21] <gordonDrogon> ponA, ntpdate isn't generally needed in a modern system with ntp - try running ntpq -c rl and looking for the value of the stratum variable in the output
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[18:21] <gordonDrogon> if it's < 16 then the clock is correct and its the timezone you need to fix.
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[18:22] <ponA> i tried running ntpq -c rl and i get ntpq: read: Connection refused
[18:23] <pksato> only stop and start ntp service.
[18:23] <ponA> i did that - no effect
[18:23] <pksato> ntpdate is only to force time update.
[18:24] <Tonbi_ko> use ntp -q
[18:24] <Tonbi_ko> if you use ntp, time will force update, it makes many programs down
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[18:24] <Tonbi_ko> no
[18:25] <Tonbi_ko> if you use ntpdate, time will force update, it makes many programs down
[18:25] <ponA> sudo: ntp: command not found
[18:25] <Tonbi_ko> you must set $PATH
[18:25] <Tonbi_ko> or use as root user
[18:26] <ponA> i used sudo ntp -q
[18:26] <pksato> sudo /etc/init.d/ntp restart
[18:26] <Tonbi_ko> many distribution, /sbin is not include ordinary user's $PATH
[18:27] <Tonbi_ko> you must in first, sudo su - to change root user.
[18:27] <ponA> i did sudo /etc/init.d/ntp restart; sudo date -u, still 4 hours off
[18:27] <Tonbi_ko> you must set timezone
[18:27] <pksato> ponA: that is UTc time of you rpi now?
[18:28] <pksato> Sun Oct 20 16:28:04 UTC 2013
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[18:28] <ponA> timezone is set to germany/berlin, CEST time is off by 2 hours, UTC is off by 4 hours
[18:29] <pksato> manual set time
[18:30] <gordonDrogon> cat /etc/timezone
[18:30] <gordonDrogon> just to check.
[18:30] <ponA> cat /etc/timezone -> Europe/Berlin
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[18:32] <ponA> actually the time is off by 2h and 1 minute, the pi was disconnected for about 1 hour, after that i didn't get the proper system time
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[18:34] <ponA> why do i get "command not found" if i run ntpdate?
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[18:34] <Blashyrkh> should the ok led be on during
[18:35] <Blashyrkh> either you dont have it installed or its not in your path
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[18:35] <Blashyrkh> should the ok led be on durin normal operation?
[18:35] <pksato> date --set="+2 hours"
[18:36] <pksato> date --set="-2 hours"
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[18:38] <Blashyrkh> mine is flashing when starting but not on afterwards
[18:40] <ponA> hmm, there seems to be a network problem... sudo apt-get update won't work
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[18:42] <ShorTie> ok led ??
[18:42] <mgottschlag> "act"led for new pis
[18:43] <mgottschlag> (used ro be "ok")
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[18:43] <mgottschlag> +to
[18:43] <pksato> I really should asked if network is working two hours ago.
[18:43] <ponA_> the network was working before i disconnected the pi
[18:43] <Blashyrkh> yes ok
[18:43] <ponA_> now i restartet my router
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[18:43] <Blashyrkh> i had in in operation for half a year, unplugged it and now it wont let me connect via ssh
[18:44] <Blashyrkh> i checked the sd but it seems okay
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[18:44] <Blashyrkh> and i dont have a hdmi cable, ill just go on and reflash it with a new img
[18:45] <ShorTie> did you just unplug it, or shut it down properly ??
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[18:50] <BCMM> what do you have to do to load a non-built-in initramfs on the pi these days? do you still have to fill in addresses and lengths in config.txt?
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[19:01] <davor> anyone here own a tiger parrot?
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[19:29] <Koopz> OK....I've got... a Pi, an USB hub with seperate power supply, a WLAN adapter and an external 2,5" HDD... everything runs smooth as long as the WLAN stick doesn't download too much... otherwise the WLAN stick turns itself off and sometimes makes the Pi restart...
[19:30] <mgottschlag> is the wlan stick in the powered usb hub?
[19:30] <Koopz> the Pi is powered by a 5v/1A power supply while the USB hub has a 5v/2A power supply...
[19:30] <ShorTie> need more pwer, tim taylor it
[19:30] <Koopz> i first had it in my hub
[19:30] <mgottschlag> doesn't matter, the current there is the *maximum* current
[19:31] <Koopz> also put it into the pi itself
[19:31] <Koopz> same outcome
[19:31] <mgottschlag> Koopz: it shouldn't restart the pi if it is plugged into the hub
[19:31] <mgottschlag> unless the hub power supply also is too weak
[19:31] <Koopz> ...warum schreibe ich eigentlich auf englisch?...
[19:31] <mgottschlag> weil das hier ein englischer Channel ist.
[19:32] <mgottschlag> and the hub then draws power from the pi because of insufficient decoupling
[19:32] <ShorTie> hdd is sucking up the hub power
[19:32] <Koopz> okay... so what should i do?
[19:33] <Koopz> should i use a different power supply on my pi?
[19:33] <mgottschlag> well, if you disconnect the power supply of the pi, does it still run?
[19:33] <Koopz> aye
[19:33] <mgottschlag> (to check whether it is getting power from the hub)
[19:33] <mgottschlag> if it does, then your two powersupplies are connected through the usb<->pi connection
[19:33] <Koopz> does it make a difference which power supply i turn on first?
[19:33] <mgottschlag> so you basically have one large 5V 3A power supply
[19:34] <Koopz> ah..
[19:34] <mgottschlag> which might be too little for everything in your setup (especially the HDD)
[19:35] <Koopz> would using a 5v/2A power supply kill my pi?...
[19:35] <mgottschlag> one way to prevent the pi from restarting would be to cut the power wire in the usb cable, but that's kind of destructive ^^
[19:35] <mgottschlag> no
[19:35] <mgottschlag> it would be even better
[19:35] <mgottschlag> but you need to increase the overall strength of the power supplies
[19:35] <Koopz> i'm just afraid that i'm grilling my Pi
[19:36] <mgottschlag> actually, it won't help anything
[19:36] <mgottschlag> because the pi's input fuse limits the current
[19:36] <mgottschlag> the maximum current is no issue, because the power supply supplies just as much current as the device attached to it draws
[19:36] <mgottschlag> so, the higher the current rating, the better
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[19:36] <mgottschlag> but the fuse is indeed a proble,m
[19:37] <mgottschlag> (if you have a multimeter, you might want to measure the voltage under load first)
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[19:38] <Koopz> so it wouldn't make any difference if i use a different power supply on my Pi because the devices on the hub won't benefit from the higher current?
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[19:38] <gordonDrogon> devices will only take the current they need.
[19:38] <gordonDrogon> you can power a Pi from a 1000 amp 5v supply and it won't hurt it.
[19:38] <mgottschlag> Koopz: yes, unless you bridge the fuse
[19:39] <Koopz> that sounds rather risky
[19:39] <mgottschlag> otherwise you would just trip the fuse, and the pi would shut down (unless it is still powered from the other usb ports)
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[19:40] <mgottschlag> it isn't risky as long as you solder additional cables between 5V input and the usb connectors
[19:40] <th1> would it not be simplest just to cut the power on the hub from the pi?
[19:41] <Koopz> and how am i supposed to do that?
[19:41] <mgottschlag> http://i.stack.imgur.com/eU2tt.jpg
[19:41] <th1> open the hub and cut the trace on the PCB
[19:41] <mgottschlag> actually, the easiest solution would be to use a stronger usb hub power supply
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[19:42] <mgottschlag> cutting the trace might work though, unless the HDD or other usb devices are also affected and will restart
[19:42] <gordonDrogon> ..and power the Pi from the hub (if it's a Rev 2 Pi)
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[19:43] <th1> cutting the trace would be safest in all cases if you are using separate power supplies
[19:43] <th1> or you can even connect the Pi to an output of the hub with a micro USB cable
[19:43] <th1> after cutting the trace
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[19:43] <th1> and use one PSU for all
[19:44] <gordonDrogon> or don't cut the trace and just do it.
[19:44] <th1> cutting the trace just means you have options
[19:44] <th1> and it's reversible - you could even put a switch ;)
[19:44] <mgottschlag> needs some knowledge about electronics though
[19:44] <mgottschlag> otherwise you cut the wrong thing
[19:45] <Koopz> yeah... that would probably happen...
[19:45] <th1> it's pretty simple
[19:45] <th1> when you know the pinout of USB cables
[19:46] <gordonDrogon> but you don't need to make life hard - the Pi is supposed to be easy.
[19:46] <gordonDrogon> just plug it in & go...
[19:46] <Koopz> so MY options would be... a new USB hub with more power or an external 3,5" HDD?
[19:46] <th1> how is the hub input connected to the pi? with a plug or a cable that's fixed to the hub?
[19:46] <gordonDrogon> Koopz, personally, I'd use an external drive with a separate power supply for the drive, but maybe that's just me...
[19:47] <Koopz> yeah but that would be somewhat loud again
[19:47] <gordonDrogon> loud?
[19:47] <Koopz> my 2,5" drive is extremely quiet...
[19:47] <Koopz> well if you put it on the right surface
[19:48] <th1> Koopz, if your hub connects tot he pi with a detachable cable you can just cut the red wire in the cable instead of cutting the trace in the hub
[19:49] <gordonDrogon> or put the drive on a server and mount it via the network...
[19:49] <Koopz> what would in that case happen if my WLAN stick is downloading too much again?
[19:50] <Koopz> would i plug it into the Pi or in the hub together with the HDD?
[19:50] <Koopz> or would i plug the WLAN stick into my hub and the HDD into my pi?
[19:51] <mgottschlag> plugging the hdd into the pi certainly won't work
[19:51] <Koopz> oh well
[19:51] <Koopz> it did
[19:51] <mgottschlag> or actually, it won't make any difference if the hub is connected to the pi's 5v
[19:51] <mgottschlag> if it was properly decoupled, it wouldn't work ^^
[19:51] <mgottschlag> because then it still will draw power from the hub
[19:52] <Koopz> there wasn't any hub connected at that moment
[19:52] <mgottschlag> o.O
[19:53] <Koopz> I only had my hdd and a wireless dongle for my keyboard in the pi and could watch movies from the hdd
[19:53] <th1> Koopz, its best to use powered hub from hdd
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[19:53] <th1> it can be unstable wihtout
[19:53] <th1> even if it works at first
[19:54] <Koopz> probably...
[19:54] <mgottschlag> hm, the internet says that 2.5" hdds use 600+mA for spinning up and 200+mA afterwards
[19:54] <th1> mostly
[19:54] <th1> but sometimes they reset during operations
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[19:54] <th1> and if pi is busy at the time then it will be a spike
[19:55] <gordonDrogon> some hubs are too cheap too.
[19:55] <gordonDrogon> a 2A PSU on a hub powerring the drive and the Pi should work - in theory.
[19:55] <th1> mostly the PSU's that come with the hubs are the problem not the hub itself
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[19:55] <Koopz> the hub is powered with a 2A PSU
[19:55] <gordonDrogon> I seem to have gotten a good one - but I did pay a massive �14 for it.
[19:56] <th1> they have written on them 1.5A or 2A but they can't deliver it in practice and get very hot and voltage drops
[19:56] <gordonDrogon> I've powered 3 Pi's from it.
[19:56] <th1> I power my Pi from the 1A USB port on my TV at the moment
[19:56] <th1> (special port meant for HDD)
[19:56] <gordonDrogon> I tried that - usb port powerers down when TV goes into standby )-:
[19:56] <th1> yes
[19:57] <th1> this is my problem :)
[19:57] <Koopz> so... open the wire that's connecting the hub and the pi, cut the red 5v (IF they're coloured) and try again?
[19:58] <mgottschlag> that probably will help with pi restarting issues
[19:58] <mgottschlag> if you can open the usb hub and have a sharp knive, you might want to try to cut inside the hub as th1 said though
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[19:59] <mgottschlag> better make a good scan of the pcb of the hub first though and have people here tell you where to cut :)
[19:59] <spldart> Hi! I got one of the 256 meg pi's from about a year ago and I've been dinking with it off and on for, well, about a year. I was curious what kind of overclock figures would be optimal for an overvolt of maybe 2. I'm avoiding 6 as I don't wanna effect longevity to much. The board is mounted in a clear case with copper heatsinks on the processor, the interface for the usb/ethernet and the regulator. I also dremeled out a hole and mount point
[19:59] <spldart> s to place a 2 inch fan on the case. It runs rather kewl.
[19:59] <th1> Koopz, do you have a multimeter?
[20:00] <Koopz> i might get one tommorow
[20:00] <th1> it's not essential for this but would help you be sure where to cut :)
[20:00] <th1> but anyway if in doubt do it in the cable, you probably have 50 of those lying around
[20:01] <Koopz> would this help me with my original problem? WLAN stick turning off because of things?
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[20:06] <Davespice> anyone experiencing any gmail problems?
[20:06] <th1> Davespice, not other than the crappy new Compose interface, but nothign new there
[20:07] <Davespice> I've got page loading issues
[20:07] <th1> not here
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[20:07] <Daulity> hey :)
[20:07] <Daulity> what screens can be used with the pi. like little screens
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[20:08] <Amadiro> Daulity, in principle any screen, if you find the right adapter
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[20:08] <Amadiro> e.g. HDMI-to-LVDS
[20:08] <mgottschlag> Koopz: no, but the pi wouldn't restart along with it
[20:09] <spldart> Or perhaps there is a place on the intarwebs where peeps compare overclock stability and benchmarks?
[20:10] <mgottschlag> Daulity: what type of "little"? http://friedcircuits.us/docs/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/USB_Tester_OLED_RPi.jpg ^^
[20:10] <mgottschlag> (well, not that exact screen, but one can use screens of that size)
[20:11] <Koopz> mgottschlag: well if i get a hub with more power there probably wouldn't be any problems with my WLAN stick
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[20:11] <mgottschlag> indeed
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[20:11] <Daulity> mgottschlag: like something you could put in a handheld size
[20:12] <th1> Koopz, what is the marking on the PSU for your hub?
[20:12] <th1> 2A?
[20:12] <Koopz> aye
[20:13] <th1> and what's connected to the hub?
[20:13] <Koopz> my HDD and my WLAN stick... and an adapter for my wireless keyboard
[20:13] <th1> just 2.5" HDD and the wifi stick
[20:13] <th1> ok
[20:13] <th1> chances are the PSU sucks and drops voltage under load spikes
[20:14] <th1> you could try a different PSU if you have one, or put a capacitor on its output
[20:14] <Amadiro> Daulity, there are some screens accessible that size that speak things like USB and SPI, depends on what kind of requirements you have for it (draw text/lines only, draw arbitrary images, color/black-white, backlight or no...)
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[20:15] <Koopz> th1: probably... i guess i'll just try out another hub... thanks...
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[20:18] <Daulity> Amadiro: just like a computer screen :)
[20:19] <Amadiro> Daulity, so you want to run X11 on it and everything? That'll be more difficult
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[20:22] <Daulity> Amadiro: actually I just want to play games like with on gameboy or snes :)
[20:22] <Daulity> The whole X thing isn't really needed then ?
[20:22] <Amadiro> Depends
[20:23] <Amadiro> Daulity, but you definitely want a screen that connects to the GPU so that you can get GPU-accelerated stuff on there (so something with LVDS perhaps or such)
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[20:23] <Amadiro> rather than, say, a USB screen with a built-in primitive GPU
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[20:23] <Daulity> yes that would be beter I think :)
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[20:24] <CDR`> Is this everything I would need to put a 16x2 LCD on my rPi? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/111126810190
[20:26] <Amadiro> CDR`, it says there "5V Supply voltage for logic (option +3V)"
[20:26] <Blashyrkh> everytime i set the memory split to 16 i get a connection refused after trying to reconnect with ssh
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[20:26] <Blashyrkh> i have raspbian on my sd card
[20:26] <Amadiro> Blashyrkh, 16 to GPU?
[20:26] <Blashyrkh> yes
[20:26] <Blashyrkh> i think so at least
[20:27] <Amadiro> Blashyrkh, have you tried connecting a screen to see if it boots at all? I don't know if 16 is enough
[20:27] <Blashyrkh> mhm no
[20:27] <Blashyrkh> but i dont have the hardware necessary at home
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[20:27] <Blashyrkh> but i set it to boot into cli
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[20:28] <Blashyrkh> i will just let it set to 64 wich is the default, i just wanted to ask if someone has encountered this prolem already
[20:28] <Amadiro> Blashyrkh, http://elinux.org/RPi_Advanced_Setup does not recommend anything lower than 32 for the GPU, so I would assume that 16 is perhaps too little
[20:28] <Amadiro> "arm224_start.elf : 224M ARM, 32M GPU split (use this for Linux only with no 3D or video processing. Its enough for the 1080p framebuffer, but not much else)"
[20:28] <Blashyrkh> okay ty
[20:28] <Amadiro> actually
[20:28] <Amadiro> It does list 16 too
[20:29] <Amadiro> I totally overlooked that.
[20:29] <Amadiro> "(use this for headless mode only. It is enough to boot the system, but you can not use video at all.)"
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[20:30] <Blashyrkh> yeah that was what i am using it for
[20:30] <Blashyrkh> but i will get a hdmi cable and look for the ouput
[20:30] <Blashyrkh> and let it set to 32
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[20:30] <Amadiro> Well, with 16 you would not get any output via HDMI, then... too late
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[20:37] <gordonDrogon> I think I'm running my Pi's with 16 and getting HDMI.
[20:37] <gordonDrogon> gpu_mem=16
[20:38] <gordonDrogon> and that Pi runs HDMI output perfectly well for X windows.
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[20:43] <th1> is raspberry pi supposed to hvae 256MB or 512MB of ram?
[20:43] <th1> I bought two when they were pretty new and I think mine are only 256MB
[20:43] <ShadowJK> The first were 256
[20:44] <th1> so if I buy new ones they'll be 512?
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[20:45] <pksato> if this new is a model B, yes. have 512MB.
[20:45] <th1> ok
[20:45] <th1> mine are model B but must be the old version then
[20:45] <th1> any other differences?
[20:46] <pksato> mouting holes
[20:46] <BCMM> th1: mounting holes, and polyfuses
[20:46] <gordonDrogon> the mounting holes are technically not mounting holes, however people are using them for that...
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[20:47] <pksato> not populated extra gpio headers.
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[20:47] <gordonDrogon> the main difference is the polyfuses and a fix on the 3.3v line on the ether/usb hub and additional gpio.
[20:47] <gordonDrogon> some of the gpio pins have changed numbers too.
[20:47] <BCMM> th1: the rev 1 (the one with no mounting holes and less ram) doesn't like getting power from the ordinary USB ports (which many hubs tend to provide it)
[20:48] <th1> ok, it's fine
[20:48] <th1> at least when I know ;)
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[20:59] <Peetz0r> Spot The Pi: http://i.imgur.com/qFPIcPJ.jpg
[20:59] <Peetz0r> Spot The Pi, round 2: http://i.imgur.com/KQQyJnS.jpg
[20:59] <gordonDrogon> mid-left
[20:59] <gordonDrogon> with the ribbon cable coming out the bottom.
[20:59] <Peetz0r> :p
[20:59] <Biodragon> oh i see dutch
[21:00] <Biodragon> "voeding"
[21:00] <Peetz0r> Biodragon: correct :)
[21:00] <Peetz0r> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-wiQfR9c5s
[21:00] <gordonDrogon> what's it controlling?
[21:01] <Peetz0r> gordonDrogon: it's being controlled ;)
[21:02] <Peetz0r> this is a Time Machine. there are Start and STop buttons, controlling a Easyrelais, which does light effects, and also switcher a gpio pin on the Pi
[21:02] <gordonDrogon> all that just to push a button on a Pi :)
[21:02] <Peetz0r> and the Pi does video playback
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[21:02] <Peetz0r> there's a TV on the other side of that wall
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[21:15] <Koopz|afk> anyone here using NOOBS?
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[21:16] <Koopz> I'd like to know if there's a possibility to control the boot menu with a controller since i don't want to use a mouse or a keyboard
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[21:19] <ShorTie> why you using NOOBS then ??
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[21:22] <Koopz> huh?
[21:22] <Koopz> i don't
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[21:23] <Koopz> i'm currently using Berryboot for multibooting... but since my tv isn't capable of using the CEC features i won't be able to change the OS w/o a mouse or a keyboard
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[21:24] <gordonDrogon> how often do you change OS?
[21:24] <gordonDrogon> if not-very, then just have one SD per OS image?
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[21:25] <Koopz> somewhat often... i've got RaspBMC and Retropie...
[21:26] <Koopz> i want to set this thing up for my parents and make it as userfriendly as possible...
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[21:29] <gordonDrogon> get 2 Pi's.
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[21:29] <Koopz> in that case i'd have to go to the tv and switch the HDMI cables everytime...
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[21:30] <Koopz> i wonder if it's possible to use emulators on RaspBMC...
[21:31] <Amadiro> Koopz, AFAIR raspbmc is just a raspbian with xbmc pre-installed and pre-configured, so I don't see why not
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[21:32] <Koopz> i'd probably need "addons" to start the emulationstation from RaspBMC in that case...
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[21:50] <BCMM> Amadiro: any idea if the packages are available for raspbian, or do i have to reinstall for them?
[21:50] <Lude123> Hi, I am trying to compile a warcraft 3 hostbot (ghost++) on my raspbian and i recieve the following error/ouput: http://pastebin.com/fjyhM31k anyone can give me a hint on how to resolve this issue? i think i have all the necessary dependencies and libraries installed
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[21:53] <Amadiro> BCMM, which packages specifically?
[21:53] <BCMM> Amadiro: raspbmc's version of xbmc
[21:53] <msch> hi, I switched the cpu's scaling_governer to ondemand yet it still always stays at 700 mhz. is there something else I have to change? e.g. set force_tub=1 in /boot/config.txt or something?
[21:53] <Amadiro> BCMM, ah, don't know, sorry, I haven't used raspbmc in a while. You can probably apply the patches they use (if any) yourself, though, and compile
[21:54] <Amadiro> Or (probably even easier) just take their package and install it on your raspbian
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[21:55] <gordonDrogon> msch, it stays at 700 until you run something cpu intensive.
[21:55] <msch> gordonDrogon yeah I tried that, it still stays at 700
[21:55] <msch> do I need to e.g. set arm_freq_min = 800 or something?
[21:56] <gordonDrogon> I have arm_freq=900
[21:56] <msch> so that setting is necessary in order for the ondemand governer to scale upwards?
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[21:57] <gordonDrogon> I guess so - its been a long time since I looked at all that - I only have one Pi with 'turbo' mode.
[21:57] <msch> kk thanks
[21:57] <gordonDrogon> and I let the raspi-config set it.
[21:57] <msch> ah so you have to have raspi-config set something in /boot/config.txt
[21:57] <msch> got it
[21:57] <msch> will try that too
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[21:57] <Jusii> correct
[21:59] <gordonDrogon> yes, but the only thing in it relating to turbo is the line: arm_freq=900. There is also core_freq=250, sdram_freq=450, over_voltage=2 (on separate lines)
[21:59] <msch> k got it
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[21:59] <fordcars> Hi
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[22:00] <fordcars> I recently instaled chocolate-doom with PiStore, but the chocolate-doom command is not found! Any help? Chocolate-doom runs fine with PiStore launch button, but I wanted to try other .wads
[22:02] <sney> must not be in your path
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[22:02] <fordcars> Do you need to cd to the path of Doom to do that command?
[22:02] <sney> or add that path to your environment variable
[22:03] <fordcars> Uh
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[22:03] <sney> I haven't used pistore at all so I don't know what that path would be, but often similar things will use their own self-contained directory strucutre. possibly in /opt or /usr/local
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[22:12] <fordcars> Oh ok thanks. the thing is I never found PiStore's directory!
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[22:16] <fordcars> So now my question is, where does the PiStore save the downloaded aplications
[22:17] <Lude123> Hi, I am trying to compile a warcraft 3 hostbot (ghost++) following these instructions: http://goo.gl/ilI7QT on my raspbian and i recieve the following error/ouput: http://pastebin.com/fjyhM31k anyone can give me a hint on how to resolve this issue? i think i have all the necessary dependencies and libraries installed
[22:18] <BCMM> Lude123: why are you doing "sudo make"?
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[22:18] <Lude123> to compile ghost? i follow the instructions. it says i need to be root user but i read that adding sudo in front is pretty much the same
[22:19] <fordcars> It should be the same I think
[22:19] <fordcars> sudo makes the command run as root
[22:20] <BCMM> that's odd, usually stuff should build fine as a normal user - you just need to be root to install
[22:20] <BCMM> but that's not the issue anyway
[22:20] <BCMM> Lude123: i suspect the problem has to do with Boost versions
[22:21] <Lude123> the instructions say to get at least boost vers. 1.38.0 i installed the newest 1.54.0.... should i try to install the older ones?
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[22:22] <BCMM> Lude123: which version of ghost++ are you installing?
[22:22] <BCMM> i mean, svn or release?
[22:22] <Lude123> release 17.1
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[22:22] <Lude123> i dont know how to do the svn
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[22:26] <Lude123> should i try the SVN ? im getting it right now. do i need to delete the old one or does it overwrite?
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[22:34] <fordcars> I found the PiStore directory!
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[22:36] <Lude123> BCMM: any more ideas on the ghost++ problem? doing it with the SVN version didnt change anything (unless i have to manually deinstall the other before)
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[22:37] <BCMM> Lude123: uh, how did you go about getting the SVN sources?
[22:38] <BCMM> and did you cd to the directory with teh svn source, or did you just try to build the sources from the zipfile again?
[22:39] <BCMM> Lude123: http://www.codelain.com/forum/index.php?topic=21876.0 says that there was a change in the way boost works, and you need newer ghost++ to build against newer boost
[22:39] <BCMM> oh, it also says you can mess around with the makefile, but i'd just build the SVN version if possible
[22:40] <Lude123> ok thats sounds like an idea
[22:40] <Lude123> i will have to delete the release first
[22:40] <BCMM> Lude123: did you change directory after the svn checkout? pardon the question, but how new to the linux terminal are you?
[22:41] <Lude123> i am pretty new to linux in general but i do understand and pick up things fairly quick i did svn in the same directory that i unzipped the release
[22:42] <Lude123> so it might not have overwritten
[22:43] <BCMM> Lude123: svn will typically make a new directory
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[22:43] <BCMM> did you do "svn checkout http://ghostplusplus.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/ ghost" as per the instructions?
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[22:44] <BCMM> it will have made a new subdirectory called "ghost"
[22:44] <Lude123> yes that means it put the file sin the ghost dir right? that would be the same it would have put the unzipped files from the release
[22:44] <BCMM> cd ghost; then try to build again
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[22:44] <BCMM> ah, mixing versions like that probably isn't good
[22:44] <Lude123> yea just deleteing the whole ghost dir and trying the svn again, gimme a sec
[22:44] <BCMM> checkout the SVN repo in to a fresh directory
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[22:50] <Lude123> BCMM: Thank You very much! that seemed to be the solution. It appears to be compiling (still working). No error so far!
[22:50] <BCMM> Lude123: good luck!
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[23:15] <groundnuty_m> hey, I'm having trouble with sharepoint+wifi. I got 2 adapters TL-WN722N and tl-wn7200nd tried both with and w/o powred hub. Been using sharepoint in wired setup for last year with arch and ras-debian
[23:15] <groundnuty_m> my router is asus n66u - preety decent
[23:16] <groundnuty_m> sharepoint reports many retransmissions and missing frames, what results in bad sound
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[23:17] <groundnuty_m> the range reported by pi is nearly perfect, I tried movign it nect to router and different router firmwares to check if its not its fault
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[23:19] <sney> monitor your i/o with iotop during a test, I bet it's bottlenecking somewhere
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[23:33] <Lude123> BCMM: are you still around? after a while of compiling i now got a bunch of similar errors saying "bnet.cpp:(.text+0x8cc0): undefined reference to `boost::filesystem::directory_en " any idea? here is the whole output: http://pastebin.com/Y94qaHys
[23:35] <Peetz0r> Hi. I want to control a fog machine over DMX. USB DMX controllers seem to be very expensive (the cheapest one I could find is €65) but converting the Pi's gpio pins to a valid DMX512 signal looks near-impossible to me
[23:35] <nerdboy> cross and native gnat-gcc for rpi for anyone into Ada => http://www.gentoogeek.org/files/arm-gnat-gcc/
[23:35] <nerdboy> also armv7hf
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[23:36] <Peetz0r> but honestly, I don't believe that a device like should really cost €178 because that's just a bizarre price for two chips with two connectors on them
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[23:36] <Peetz0r> wait, I tried to paste a url there, not a irc color code...
[23:36] <Peetz0r> http://www.anyma.ch/store/11-udmx.html
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[23:39] <groundnuty_m> sney: I just did a test I turned my macbook into AP
[23:39] <groundnuty_m> there are almost no lost packages
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[23:40] <groundnuty_m> I refuse to believe that macbook can be a better AP then asus n66u
[23:40] <ln-> *than
[23:41] <groundnuty_m> ln-: yes:)
[23:41] <groundnuty_m> sney: also no iotop acrivity atm
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[23:43] <groundnuty_m> ok, the same problem after 1 song
[23:46] <nerdboy> Lude123: how did you configure ghost?
[23:46] <nerdboy> is c++ support optional, and if so, do you need it?
[23:46] <groundnuty_m> still, the fact that its not working even if I put pi infront of AP
[23:46] <groundnuty_m> its not normal
[23:47] <Lude123> nerdboy: i used this instruction to compile ghost: http://goo.gl/ilI7QT
[23:47] <Lude123> i think i need c++ for it
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[23:47] <Lude123> i am quite new to linux
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[23:48] <Lude123> installed all core dependencies, newest boost, bncsutils and stormlib, ghost++ through svn and tried to compile
[23:49] <nerdboy> if boost is there, then it looks like your linker isn't finding it
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[23:51] <nerdboy> scratch that, the linker sees boost but your bnet make args don't include any boost headers
[23:51] <nerdboy> something else is probably underlinked
[23:52] <nerdboy> the instructions for the two lib depends don't include a configure step
[23:52] <Lude123> yea
[23:53] <Lude123> hm
[23:53] <nerdboy> do they use autotools? if so, try ./configure --help and look for some boost options
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[23:53] <Lude123> in the home dir?
[23:53] <nerdboy> otherwise look in the static make/config/whatever files it uses
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[23:53] <nerdboy> in the source for bncsutil and stormlib
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[23:55] <nerdboy> open source is all about figuring it out yourself when the instructions don't work
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[23:56] <Lude123> ok i will try that, thanks for the hints
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[23:57] <nerdboy> actually not a bad way to learn since most commercial software sucks even more...
[23:59] <nerdboy> Lude123: if you want to learn how linux works from the ground up you can try a gentoo install on whatever usable hardware you have lying around

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