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IRC Log for 2013-10-21

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[0:00] <Lude123> is gentoo easier to use?
[0:00] <nerdboy> the docs are awesome, and it will compile pretty much anything with the right dependencies installed (mostly automatic)
[0:01] <nerdboy> compiling can be slow on low-end hardware, but modern multi-core boxes are cheap and fast
[0:01] <Lude123> i ll keep that in mind, for now i wont give up so easy and will try to get this hostbot work on my raspi :)
[0:02] <nerdboy> are you running raspbian?
[0:03] <Lude123> yes
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[0:03] <nerdboy> if you have all the required *-dev packages installed, then go back to what i said about boost options in the library source
[0:03] <Lude123> hmm ./configure --help gives me "no such file or directory"
[0:03] <nerdboy> try ls
[0:04] <Lude123> boost option in the bncsutils and stormlib u mean
[0:04] <nerdboy> yup
[0:04] <nerdboy> one thing you could try is "apt-get build-dep boost"
[0:04] <nerdboy> or whatever the main boost package name is
[0:05] <Lude123> well i followed this to install boost http://www.codelain.com/wiki/index.php?title=Installing_Boost_(Linux)
[0:05] <Lude123> shouldnt that install the whole thing?
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[0:05] <Lude123> took forever :D
[0:06] <nerdboy> that might be why it's missing from the includes
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[0:07] <nerdboy> i'd move the hand-built boost out of the way and use the apt-get build-dep command to install the boost stuff
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[0:07] <Lude123> do i have to uninstall the old one first now?
[0:08] <nerdboy> you did a manual make install?
[0:09] <nerdboy> where did it install itself?
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[0:09] <Lude123> no i did like it says on the instruction i posted (unzipped it) and then used those bootstrap bjam cmmands...i think its in /usr/src/boost_1_54_0
[0:10] <nerdboy> everything except the ghost source/libs should be installed with apt-get build-dep
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[0:10] <nerdboy> look under /usr/local for boost stuff
[0:12] <Lude123> under /usr/local/lib/ is some libboost stuff
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[0:12] * rikkib is downloading and see what I can see
[0:13] <nerdboy> you could tar it up and remove it
[0:13] <sney> some source packages have an uninstall target in the makefile, so you can just 'make uninstall' and it'll remove the binaries
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[0:15] <Lude123> hmm
[0:15] <nerdboy> okay, lemme fire up a raspbian card and see what the deps are
[0:17] <rikkib> That is a fairly large code base for boost
[0:18] <Lude123> ok
[0:18] <Lude123> that would be awesome
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[0:19] <nerdboy> build-dep will pick up anything that may have been missed in the package naming
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[0:20] <Lude123> would it be wise to just do the apt-get build-dep boost without caring about the already installed boost?
[0:20] <nerdboy> wife talking...
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[0:23] <nerdboy> yes, and safer to move the other stuff out of the way
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[0:30] <rikkib> I wonder how many hour to compile boost on rpi... It seems a sizable package
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[0:32] <chithead> on gentoo: boost-1.52.0-r6: Wed Sep 18 10:37:10 2013: 3 hours, 40 minutes, 38 seconds
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[0:34] <rikkib> I think lude123 is on his own :(
[0:34] <Lude123> then i'm lost ;(
[0:34] <rikkib> haha
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[0:35] <rikkib> root@raspberrypi:/usr/src/boost_1_43_0# ./bootstrap.sh --with-libraries=system,date_time,thread,filesystem
[0:35] <rikkib> Building Boost.Jam with toolset gcc... tools/jam/src/bin.linuxarm/bjam
[0:35] <rikkib> Unicode/ICU support for Boost.Regex?... not found.
[0:35] <rikkib> Generating Boost.Build configuration in project-config.jam...
[0:35] <rikkib> Bootstrapping is done. To build, run:
[0:35] <rikkib> ./bjam
[0:35] <rikkib>
[0:35] <rikkib> To adjust configuration, edit 'project-config.jam'.
[0:35] <rikkib> Further information:
[0:35] <rikkib> - Command line help:
[0:35] <rikkib> ./bjam --help
[0:35] <rikkib>
[0:35] <rikkib> - Getting started guide:
[0:35] <rikkib> http://www.boost.org/more/getting_started/unix-variants.html
[0:35] <rikkib>
[0:35] <rikkib> - Boost.Build documentation:
[0:35] <rikkib> http://www.boost.org/boost-build2/doc/html/index.html
[0:35] <rikkib> I shall keep going
[0:36] <rikkib> Is this the stage your compile fails at??? ./bjam
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[0:37] <Lude123> i did this
[0:37] <Lude123> it worked all fine
[0:37] <Lude123> it fails when i compile ghost
[0:38] <Lude123> i did the ./bjam and then ./bjam install
[0:38] <Lude123> that worked
[0:38] <Lude123> but i used boost 1_54_0
[0:38] <rikkib> OK what else do I need to get?
[0:38] <rikkib> ghost?
[0:38] <Lude123> here is the guide i used
[0:38] <Lude123> http://www.codelain.com/wiki/index.php?title=Manual_installation_(Linux)#BNCSUtil
[0:38] <Lude123> its fairly short
[0:39] <Lude123> bncsutils and stormlib
[0:39] <Lude123> and ghost++ via the svn download
[0:39] <rikkib> Hmmm
[0:39] <nerdboy> Lude123: make sure you have both deb and deb-src lines in sources.list
[0:40] <rikkib> I may need to download again and start again as I am compiling 1.43
[0:42] <rikkib> Is there a reason you are using a development version as opposed to a stable version?
[0:43] <Lude123> deb http://mirrordirector.raspbian.org/raspbian/ wheezy main contrib non-free rpi deb http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ squeeze main contrib deb http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ squeeze main non-free
[0:43] <Lude123> this is in my sources.list
[0:43] <Lude123> rikkib: the boost 1_54_0 is a dev version? it says current release so i thought it was stable
[0:44] <rikkib> Ahhh so the wiki page I am reading is out of date
[0:45] <rikkib> Any way first I will try getting ghost first
[0:46] <Lude123> get ghost with the svn since the zip release is old and wont work with the new boost at all (i found that out earlier)
[0:46] <nerdboy> 1.50 is the latest in my wheezy raspbian
[0:46] <Lude123> for the boost?
[0:46] <nerdboy> yup
[0:47] <Lude123> strange
[0:47] <nerdboy> apt-get build-dep libgmp10 bzip2 libmysql++3 boost1.50 works on mine
[0:49] <nerdboy> downloading now...
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[0:49] <andygraybeal> hey so .... i need a powersupply that actually works well with this raspberry pi.. everything i have laying around here sucks
[0:49] <Lude123> im formating my sd csrd and putting a fresh raspbian on it
[0:50] <andygraybeal> can someone link me to a url to a nice powersupply
[0:51] <rikkib> Hmmm I just run into a dead end... I am running wheezy and your are squeeze... System Halted :)
[0:51] <nerdboy> i just use my old lg phone usb brick
[0:52] <nerdboy> 700 mA works fine unless it can't maintain the voltage
[0:52] <chithead> places that sell rpis will usually offer known working power supplies too
[0:52] <nerdboy> adfruit for example
[0:52] <Lude123> rikkib: what do you mean with wheezy and squeeze?
[0:52] <andygraybeal> thanks nerdboy
[0:52] <andygraybeal> where do i get one of them ?
[0:53] <andygraybeal> some reason mine doesn't power on well
[0:53] <rikkib> Lude123, My bad forgot you were using a Linux box
[0:54] <rikkib> Now I am confused
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[0:55] <nerdboy> rikkib: wheezy should work since the minimum boost version is 1.36
[0:55] <nerdboy> according to their site anyway...
[0:55] <rikkib> PS: KCS NLA120050W1S 5v @ 1.2A <- These are the supplies I use
[0:56] <nerdboy> it just takes a while to install all the build deps...
[0:57] <rikkib> Do not know if you can get them for other power connectors... NZ is different to many
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[0:59] <rikkib> 62 packages to upgrade my rpi... I have 5 here but only one hooked up on the bench
[1:00] <rikkib> I am far to busy to do much with the rpi atm...
[1:00] <Lude123> this line should install all the needed dependencies if i have a fresh system right? "apt-get build-dep libgmp10 bzip2 libmysql++3 boost1.50"
[1:01] <nerdboy> yup
[1:02] <Lude123> what do i need in my sources.list? is: "deb http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ squeeze main contrib" enough?
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[1:03] <Lude123> or wheezy?
[1:03] <nerdboy> what's in it now?
[1:03] <Lude123> deb http://mirrordirector.raspbian.org/raspbian/ wheezy main contrib non-free r$
[1:03] <Lude123> only that
[1:04] <nerdboy> add another line with deb-src and the same other stuff
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[1:04] <Lude123> so dont need the debian.org line?
[1:04] <nerdboy> ie, copy and make it deb-src instead of deb
[1:04] <nerdboy> make a deb-src line for each deb line
[1:05] <Lude123> but i put the debian.org squeeze line in too right?
[1:05] <nerdboy> don't need squeeze
[1:05] <nerdboy> stable is wheezy, testing is jessie
[1:05] <Lude123> ok
[1:05] <nerdboy> forget squeeze
[1:06] <Lude123> so i do debian.org wheezy
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[1:07] <nerdboy> i have one for wheezy and one for wheezy-staging
[1:07] <nerdboy> so, two deb lines and two deb-src lines
[1:08] <nerdboy> deb http://mirrordirector.raspbian.org/raspbian/ wheezy main contrib non-free rpi
[1:08] <nerdboy> like that
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[1:09] <Lude123> ok it tells me to put some urls in sources so i have to have this wrong. this is what i have in sources-list http://pastebin.com/NheCmWqC
[1:09] <[Saint]> rikkib: NZ huh?
[1:10] <[Saint]> Same here, lemme save you same cash.
[1:10] <Lude123> sorry for so much troubling you nerdboy :/
[1:10] <[Saint]> Go to a Cash Converters, pawn shop et al and pick up an Apple iPad wall wart.
[1:10] <[Saint]> rikkib: ^
[1:10] <rikkib> I pay $6 each for the ps on trademe
[1:11] <[Saint]> They're so abumdent pawn shops will usually give them away.
[1:11] <[Saint]> *abundant
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[1:12] <rikkib> I do have access to abundant second hand stuff
[1:12] <[Saint]> I got 10 2A iPad wall-warts for $10 from a Cash Convertors.
[1:12] <nerdboy> Lude123: like this => http://pastebin.com/gke7gwW2
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[1:12] <rikkib> I prefer these little units
[1:13] <Lude123> ah ok thx nerdboy, i ll try that
[1:13] <Lude123> lol still says you must put some source urls in your souce.list :(
[1:14] * [Saint] sees he directed his PSU-finding-statement to the wrong person.
[1:14] <rikkib> devel ????
[1:14] <nerdboy> okay, here's mine
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[1:14] <nerdboy> that was yours copied
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[1:15] <nerdboy> http://pastebin.com/8grxntcD
[1:17] <Lude123> i must be dumb cuz when i say "apt-get build-dep libgmp10 bzip2 libmysql++3 boost1.50" it still asks for soures urls
[1:18] <Lude123> omg nvm imdidnt update
[1:18] <Lude123> i am dumb
[1:18] <[Saint]> have you logged out and back in since?
[1:18] <rikkib> No line feed at end of sources
[1:18] <[Saint]> iirc, sources.list is only parsed at logon.
[1:19] <nerdboy> no dos source files either
[1:19] <nerdboy> need to run dos2unix on the ghost source
[1:20] <Lude123> dos2unix?
[1:20] <[Saint]> line ending conversion.
[1:20] <[Saint]> opposite of unix2dos
[1:21] <nerdboy> damn, it's got windoze fancy quotes in the source too
[1:21] <[Saint]> sounds like that's gonna fall over hard.
[1:21] <Lude123> im lost in this conversation
[1:22] <[Saint]> the TL;DR version is: "There are Windows text files, and Unix text files, neither are fans of each other"
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[1:22] <nerdboy> Lude123: can you apt-get update?
[1:22] <Lude123> yea doing it right now
[1:23] <nerdboy> when it's done, apt-get install and and apt-get build-dep those packages
[1:23] <Lude123> install then build dep
[1:24] * [Saint] assumes a precompiled binary isn't an option?
[1:25] <nerdboy> he's trying to build ghost from svn trunk
[1:26] <nerdboy> absolutely no reason for stupid high-bit quote chars
[1:27] <[Saint]> indeed.
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[1:27] <nerdboy> that's just asking for trouble, and only for the last 10 or 20 years or so...
[1:27] <[Saint]> Did I miss *why* svn head ghost is required?
[1:28] <[Saint]> What's wrong with the wheezy/jessie version(s)?
[1:28] <nerdboy> no, i was just trying to help him do it the right way
[1:29] <[Saint]> I would argue that the "right" way is to use the packages readily available to the user if the base version is high enough.
[1:29] <[Saint]> If it'll "Just Work" with ghost from wheezy/jessie, I don't see much to be gained from self compilation of a newer binary.
[1:30] <nerdboy> i meant right way to build it on raspbian, but only Lude123 knows the reason for svn trunk...
[1:30] <[Saint]> Especially if it comes with fun caveats like braindead quoting styles. :)
[1:30] <[Saint]> ah, right. My mistake.
[1:30] <Lude123> um, i dont know if we are talking about the same thing, im trying to get ghost++ which is a hostbot to work.. i didnt see any binaries i can just put in or am i completely lost here ? :D
[1:31] <nerdboy> right, GHost++ ...
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[1:32] <[Saint]> Well, that changes things slightly.
[1:32] <[Saint]> ProTip: People helping you can't read your mind - be specific. :)
[1:32] <Lude123> well i was posting the instructions i followed http://www.codelain.com/wiki/index.php?title=Manual_installation_(Linux)
[1:32] <nerdboy> that was probably my shorthand irc...
[1:32] * lupinedk is now known as Lupinedk
[1:33] <nerdboy> good tip nonetheless...
[1:33] <Lude123> :D
[1:34] <nerdboy> [Saint]: would you like to try gnat-gcc for rpi?
[1:34] <nerdboy> unless you're one of those anti-Ada guys...
[1:35] <nerdboy> http://www.gentoogeek.org/files/arm-gnat-gcc/
[1:36] <nerdboy> built fresh today, still warm...
[1:36] * [Saint] doesn't see anything wrong with the instructions listed at http://www.codelain.com/wiki/index.php?title=Manual_installation_%28Linux%29
[1:37] <[Saint]> following that verbatim should "Just OWrk", TM.
[1:38] <[Saint]> "apt-get install build-sep foo" isn't going to work if the packages aren't part of the repository.
[1:38] <[Saint]> And, if they were part of the repository, we'd just pull them directly.
[1:38] <[Saint]> *s/sep/dep/
[1:39] <nerdboy> he built boost manually and was getting unknown boost symbols when linking
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[1:39] <nerdboy> the page does say "agt-get these -dev packages"
[1:40] <nerdboy> build-dep will get all the dev stuff
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[1:40] <[Saint]> not necessarily.
[1:41] <Lude123> now after setting up fresh raspbian i did "apt-get install libgmp10 bzip2 libmysql++3 boost1.50" next i will do "apt-get build-dep libgmp10 bzip2 libmysql++3 boost1.50"
[1:41] <Lude123> then i compile the bncsutils and stormlib and tthen i should be able to compile GHost++ ?
[1:41] <[Saint]> no, there's no need for the latter.
[1:42] <Lude123> no build-dep?
[1:42] <[Saint]> No, you don't need to have the build dependencies if you're pulling a precompiled binary.
[1:42] <[Saint]> and installation of said precompiled binary will pull runtime deps automatically.
[1:43] <Lude123> so i should skip the build-dep and proceed compiling bncsutil and stormlib and then ghost++
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[1:55] <nerdboy> should just need the libgmp10-dev package
[1:55] <nerdboy> same for th eothers
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[1:59] <Lude123> am trying to compile ghost++ now again, i got some warnings when i compiled stormlib tho ("deprecated conversion from string constant to char") hope that wont be an issue
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[2:03] <[Saint]> It is quite rare for a project of any decent size to compile with a completely clean build output.
[2:04] <[Saint]> Sometimes its just not worth the effort to silence silly errors, and quie often it can make you need to do some very silly hackery in the source just to shut up a perfectly harmless warning.
[2:04] <[Saint]> Pay attention to these warnings, and keep them in mind, but don't panic unless stuff starts falling over when it comes time to use it.
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[2:14] <nerdboy> seems like it takes several minutes to compile each object file with g++...
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[2:16] <nerdboy> anything with boost, anyway
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[2:36] <dxtr> Hello
[2:37] <dxtr> I'm having some slight issues with my rpi model b. I just removed the power cord and now when I'm plugging it back in it won't boot
[2:37] <dxtr> At first I thought it was an HDMI issue but I realized it won't boot at all now
[2:38] <dxtr> And I am using a proper power thing
[2:41] <chithead> maybe your sd card got corrupted
[2:42] <dxtr> Shouldn't I see that by plugging it into another Linux computer and fscking it?
[2:43] <dxtr> I just finished setting it up so I'd rather avoid re-installing the sd card :P
[2:43] <Engen> Is it optimal to run the Pi on class 10 SD cards?
[2:43] <chithead> first the pi reads from the fat32 boot partition
[2:44] <chithead> http://elinux.org/RPi_SD_cards has a list of known working cards
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[2:46] <shiftplusone> Engen, nope
[2:47] <shiftplusone> not necessarily at least
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[2:51] <Engen> Alright, awesome.
[2:52] <nerdboy> hmm, looks like ghost++ built fine
[2:52] <nerdboy> although i did fix up some of the makefiles
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[3:23] <dxtr> chithead: Interestingly enough I seem to have fixed it by downloading the latest firmware from https://github.com/raspberrypi/firmware
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[3:24] <shiftplusone> dxtr, it sounds like your firmware got corrupted, so it's not so much that you got the 'latest' firmware, but that you replaced it. It's a bit odd though, since that shouldn't happen.
[3:25] <dxtr> hehe
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[3:27] <dxtr> shiftplusone: I wonder why that would happen, though. I didn't do anything
[3:27] <dxtr> Well, I unplugged the rpi to re-arrange some cable
[3:27] <dxtr> cables*
[3:27] <shiftplusone> Did you shut down properly first?
[3:27] <dxtr> But I didn't write anything
[3:28] <dxtr> Ehum.. I thought about it
[3:28] <dxtr> I intended to.
[3:28] <dxtr> Does that count?
[3:28] <shiftplusone> hmm, I am not sure that it does.
[3:28] <dxtr> Darn
[3:29] <shiftplusone> some cards are particularly prone to corruption on the pi. They are almost guaranteed to mess up if you yank the power out
[3:29] <shiftplusone> even if you consider shutting down first
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[3:30] <dxtr> Weird
[3:31] <[Saint]> Its not really that weird.
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[3:31] <[Saint]> Start writing a file on any other device with removable storage, yank out said storage, and see how it handles it. :)
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[3:32] <[Saint]> It'll vary anywhere from "file is missing" to "dear God, where did my filesystem go?"
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[3:36] <SpeedEvil> Further than that.
[3:36] <SpeedEvil> 'why doesn't this SD card work any more in any device'
[3:37] <SpeedEvil> Is alas too common.
[3:37] <[Saint]> That's usually user error in my experience.
[3:38] <[Saint]> sdcards being irrecoverable due to nothing but a power off (the sdcard literally couldn't care less about the filesystem or its contents) is exceptionally rare.
[3:38] <[Saint]> Were it not so, every time you turned your phone off you'd be risking total data loss. :)
[3:39] <shiftplusone> Between this channel and the forum, I've seen plenty of reports of that happening.
[3:39] <shiftplusone> and by plenty I mean 1 or 2 >.>
[3:39] <[Saint]> Oh, sure, they report it - I have never seen any *verification* of this happening, though.
[3:40] <[Saint]> I think it far more likely its braindead tools not knowing what to do with a raw filesystem.
[3:40] <SpeedEvil> I've had it happen a couple of times.
[3:40] <SpeedEvil> The sd card wasn't recognised in any device.
[3:40] <SpeedEvil> As in - would not appear at teh initial probe stage - before filesystem mount
[3:41] <SpeedEvil> no fdisk, no disk size, nothing.
[3:41] <SpeedEvil> SD cards are little microcontrollers running a SD card program.
[3:41] <SpeedEvil> This is not always stable in the face of card corruption.
[3:42] <[Saint]> I take it with a grain of salt. In all the times I have seen such claims made, I have never once seen it independently verified. Not once. Never.
[3:42] <shiftplusone> Any idea why that actually happens? A firmware bug on the sd card or is it actually getting physically damaged?
[3:43] <[Saint]> Honestly, I think its unlikely to be either.
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[3:45] <SpeedEvil> shiftplusone: Firmware bug.
[3:46] <SpeedEvil> shiftplusone: The wear leveling algorithm is relatively complex.
[3:46] <shiftplusone> fair enough
[3:46] <SpeedEvil> How would you consider such a claim independantly verified?
[3:47] <shiftplusone> I have an SSD which would randomly lock up and needed to be power cycled... then all the files would be messed up, so it was pretty much unusable. Turned out that it needed a firmware update. =/
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[4:05] <prsnth> anyone here using arch on the pi?
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[4:06] <[Saint]> prsnth: better to just ask your question(s) directly, I rather suspect that's not really the question you want answered.
[4:07] <prsnth> hahaha true, i was wondering if i'm suppose to expand the paritiion after getting it up
[4:07] <prsnth> im pretty new to this :)
[4:07] <[Saint]> You don't have to, no.
[4:07] <prsnth> i have a 16gb sdcard which im using
[4:08] <prsnth> and last time i was using it, it was saying i was out of space
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[4:08] <prsnth> then of course i tried running some commands and toasted everything
[4:08] <prsnth> commands to expand it
[4:09] <[Saint]> You could do one of many things, but generally speaking, most users opt for expanding the root partition to fill the sdcard as its the easiest option.
[4:09] <[Saint]> I personally opt for multiple seperate partitions so that I don't have to wipe out the whole card if something goes wrong. :)
[4:10] <prsnth> i like that second idea
[4:10] <prsnth> ok i'll give that a shot now, thanks :)
[4:10] <prsnth> so, by default, just out of curiosity, how is it set up?
[4:10] <prsnth> if you don't mind me asking
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[4:11] <prsnth> the paritions that is
[4:12] <[Saint]> two partitions, one ~50MB FAT32 /boot partition (because the SoC requires this), and the rest of the image is /
[4:13] <[Saint]> You can have any combination of partitions you want, but you need at least /boot and / for it to function.
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[4:14] <prsnth> ah ok, so i see they don't by default use everything else up for the / partition so the user can set it up themselves
[4:15] <[Saint]> The real reason is bandwidth.
[4:15] <prsnth> oh wow, i got a lot of reading to do
[4:15] <[Saint]> well...bandwidth is secondary to time taken to dd it, I guess.
[4:15] <prsnth> oh yeah
[4:16] <prsnth> i wasn't considering the time it would take
[4:16] <[Saint]> correctly zeroing out the free space could mean such an image would compress well, but it would still take an age to write it out.
[4:16] <Triffid_Hunter> prsnth: usually a good idea to expand / out to fill the disk, raspbian has a setup menu which can do it for you automagically
[4:16] <[Saint]> mainly it is this way so that it'll fit on a 2GB sdcard and take as little as possible to write out.
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[4:17] <[Saint]> Triffid_Hunter: personally, I disagree there.
[4:17] <prsnth> thanks Triffid_Hunter, but i'm gonna try to do this manually >.<
[4:17] <[Saint]> I think its better, much better, to create a *new* artition there.
[4:17] <prsnth> i like the idea of root being seperated
[4:17] <[Saint]> *partition
[4:18] <[Saint]> that way if you trash /, you'll (hopefully) still have /home left
[4:18] <prsnth> but hey, thats good to know there's tools built in to raspbian for that
[4:18] <prsnth> yeah which is exactly what i did..
[4:18] <prsnth> after getting everything setup the way i wanted
[4:18] <Triffid_Hunter> [Saint]: yeah splitting / and /home can work, assuming that / is large enough for everything you'll want to install to the OS
[4:19] <[Saint]> If its not, gparted.
[4:19] <prsnth> oh, so all the packages must be installed on the / partition?
[4:19] <[Saint]> Yes.
[4:19] <Triffid_Hunter> prsnth: it's not particulary hard to do manually, just replace the partition, making sure start sector is the same with a larger one, then I think tune2fs to grow it
[4:19] <Triffid_Hunter> from memory you can live-resize without unmounting
[4:19] <Triffid_Hunter> because kernel folks are geniuses
[4:19] <prsnth> thats what i tried to do earlier
[4:19] <[Saint]> you can, yes.
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[4:20] <prsnth> somewhere along the line i messed it up
[4:20] <prsnth> i think i learned more here i the last 10 minutes than i did spending an hour roaming the net geebus
[4:21] <[Saint]> arch isn't really particularly user-friendly.
[4:22] <[Saint]> and its *definitely* not new-unix-user-friendly.
[4:22] <prsnth> yeah i kept seeing that warning everywhere
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[4:23] <[Saint]> People seem to expect it to be a complete "desktop" environment and don't realize that they need to configure *everything* themselves.
[4:23] <[Saint]> Its a bit of a learning curve.
[4:23] <prsnth> but i think thats what attracted it towards me
[4:23] <prsnth> yeah geez, tell me about it hahahaha
[4:24] <Triffid_Hunter> learning curve is so worth it though
[4:24] <[Saint]> Installing a DE on Arch is usually a good step into learning. LXDE has nice documentation.
[4:24] <Triffid_Hunter> I've been running gentoo desktop for years now, I'm still amazed at how easy it is to set up things that folks on other OSes would consider outrageously difficult
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[4:25] <Triffid_Hunter> for example I have my ethernet and wireless bonded, so when I pull my cable it hot-swaps to wireless *without interrupting any connections at all* - I can have netradio running and it doesn't even hiccup
[4:25] <Triffid_Hunter> also, I recently configured my keyboard to switch to greek layout while I hold ctrl so it's easier to type math stuff
[4:25] <Triffid_Hunter> no, while I old capslock
[4:25] <Triffid_Hunter> which is an otherwise rather uselesskey
[4:26] <prsnth> oh wow, i might have to bug about that network bonding one of these days
[4:26] <[Saint]> ...but...but...but! Without CAPS, how to you do "the big letters"? ;)
[4:26] <prsnth> hahahha hack the shift key
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[4:27] <Triffid_Hunter> hack? no need, just hold it down
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[4:27] <Triffid_Hunter> that's what pinky finger is for :P
[4:27] <Triffid_Hunter> I could trivially set it so pressing both shift keys activates capslock
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[4:28] <prsnth> oh wait you're right, i don't even realize how often i do that instead using the caps lock
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[4:30] <prsnth> alright, done writing image, its show time
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[5:22] <kaste> Hey If I run the same program under raspbian and alarm, it's faster on raspbian. Any ideas why?
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[5:24] <[Saint]> kaste: different sdcards?
[5:25] <[Saint]> In theory, Arch should be faster than Raspbian, due to the lack of bloat.
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[5:25] <[Saint]> ...however, Arch also gives the user plenty of opportunity to mess up, so, there's that.
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[5:27] <kaste> same exact hardware setup
[5:27] <kaste> Alaarm isn't Arch though, I mean you basically get the image as is. There is not a lot I could have messed up
[5:27] <kaste> I am having a hard time explaiing it that's why I am asking
[5:28] <[Saint]> Alarm very much is Arch...
[5:28] <kaste> except you are forced to make more choices for Arch than for alarm
[5:28] <hybr1d8> could be different versions of the same program, or compiled with different options, or using different versions of libraries
[5:28] <[Saint]> A(rch)l(inux)arm...pretty clear.
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[5:28] <kaste> also try getting support in #archlinux :P
[5:29] <[Saint]> I have done, sucessfully, multiple times.
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[5:29] <[Saint]> People just need to remember how IRC works.
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[5:35] <[Saint]> In regard to "basically get the image as is", that's only true if you have only *very* basic requirements.
[5:35] <[Saint]> You get a base install, and the rpi firmware - that's it.
[5:36] <[Saint]> If you want to do anything of much use to the average user, there's plenty of room to mess up.
[5:37] <prsnth> i can vouch for that
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[7:19] <prsnth> goodnight folks, thanks [Saint] and Triffid_Hunter for your help today!
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[10:05] <gordonDrogon> What Ho, good people of Pi!
[10:05] <Coffe> We are the knigths ho say Pi :P
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[11:18] <murple> I'm daydreaming about my raspberry pi and things I can do with it. My parents live in a different country and I'm wondering if the Raspberry PI can somehow print over WIFI? Meaning, if I have a RPI and a WIFI-enabled printer connected to the same WIFI network, can the RPI somehow print? If so, I could create a solution where I could somehow send pictures to the RPI and have it automatically print them. Is that feasible? Can CUPS
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[11:18] <dxtr> murple: yes
[11:18] <murple> dxtr: wow.
[11:18] <CruX|> hello how can I disable boot messages on rpi hdmi ?
[11:18] <shiftplusone> depends on the printer
[11:18] <CruX|> console=none is enough ?
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[11:19] <CruX|> i don't want to have messages on serialport
[11:19] <murple> shiftplusone dxtr: Something like this: http://www.usa.canon.com/cusa/consumer/products/printers_multifunction/compact_photo_printers/selphy_cp900
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[11:20] <shiftplusone> "There is no driver for the OS Version you selected. The driver may be included in your OS or you may not need a driver."
[11:20] <shiftplusone> canon does not provide drivers... that does not mean it won't work, there may already be a solution.
[11:21] <dxtr> murple: I'm no CUPS expert, but I've set it up once or twice and ity would totally be achievable with those setups.
[11:21] <shiftplusone> Are wifi enabled printers pretty generic then?
[11:22] <murple> Wow
[11:22] <murple> The raspberry pi opens up so many possibilities. Unfortunately, it takes me several months to complete my projects so I have to select my projects with great care!
[11:23] <shiftplusone> dxtr, a hint... ountry and I'm wondering if the Raspberry PI can somehow print over WIFI? Meaning, if I have a RPI and a WIFI-enabled printer connected to the same WIFI network, can the RPI somehow print? If so, I could create a solution where I could somehow send pictures to the RPI and have it automatically print them. Is th
[11:23] <shiftplusone> ...mispaste
[11:23] <shiftplusone> http://sourceforge.net/p/gimp-print/discussion/4358/thread/7a05041d/#63cc
[11:23] <shiftplusone> bottom comment
[11:24] <dxtr> shiftplusone: I would assume wifi printer are no different than regular network printers and those printer I've played around with are pretty generic
[11:25] <dxtr> The only thing I had to do once was find some resource file (I can't remember, really) to make it only print int black and white
[11:25] <shiftplusone> I wouldn't necessarily make that assumption without knowing for sure.
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[11:26] <dxtr> Hehe
[11:27] <dxtr> I make that assumption from my limited experience. And I have to play with printers so little that I frankly don't care until I have to
[11:27] <dxtr> But now I'm lying to you
[11:27] <dxtr> I just had a flashback. No, they are not generic
[11:28] <dxtr> I selected what models and stuff the printers were. I don't know if it was mandatory or just for fine-tuning the printing
[11:28] <shiftplusone> Lied? Now I am not sure I can trust another human being ever again =(
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[11:34] <murple> dxtr shiftplusone: Thank you both again.
[11:34] <shiftplusone> good luck
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[12:06] <tig|> 'nings all
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[12:06] <murple> shiftplusone: Heh. Well, I need to finish my automatic recorder project first. Then I have parts lying around for custom stair-lighting. So I'm expecting to look into the auto-print over WIFI project in late 2014 or there abouts.
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[12:13] <ShorTie> your wifi is powerfull enough to reach that far ??
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[12:30] <mcsim> hi. In documentation in part for GPIO it is said that pins are divided into two banks. Pins from first bank generate interrupts for the first line, and from the second bank for the second line. But I didn't find how are these pins are split among banks?
[12:31] <mcsim> Is it equal (27 for each) or some other distribution?
[12:31] <mcsim> thanks in advance
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[12:39] <ShorTie> got a link to the doc's your reading ??
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[12:48] <gordonDrogon> mcsim, it's 32 pins in the first bank and the remainder in the 2nd.
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[13:49] <mcsim> gordonDrogon: thank you
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[14:02] <mcsim> gordonDrogon: Is it written somewhere in documentation? I can't find this... I was looking in "BCM2835 ARM Peripherals" and other docs from http://www.raspberrypi.org/technical-help-and-resource-documents
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[14:17] <gordonDrogon> that's all there is, really.
[14:17] <gordonDrogon> are you doing a bare-bones thing ?
[14:18] <gordonDrogon> page 89 on the manual talks about the 54 GPIO pins over 2 banks.
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[14:19] <gordonDrogon> page 95 talks about the 2 gpio set registers (bits 0:31 and 32:53)
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[14:26] <mcsim> gordonDrogon: yes
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[14:27] <gordonDrogon> good luck with it! There are lots of bare-metal examples though. I've only used the gpio via Linux.
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[15:16] <crapp> I want to use some AA batteries (at least 4 for model A) to power a raspberry pi. I am a little confused which stepUp stepDown regulator I should buy. Is it correct I can directly power the pi via GPIO pin? If so can I use the 5v pin?
[15:17] <crapp> I wanted to use this regulator
[15:17] <crapp> http://www.pololu.com/catalog/product/2123
[15:17] <shiftplusone> looks ok to me
[15:17] <shiftplusone> keep in mind you're bypassing the polyfuse, but that's not really an issue
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[15:20] <Triffid_Hunter> crapp: you want a boostbuck for 4 AAs because the input can be both higher and lower than the output
[15:22] <shiftplusone> that's what it is
[15:22] <shiftplusone> input voltage: 2.7 V to 11.8 V
[15:22] <shiftplusone> "The Pololu step-up/step-down voltage regulator S7V8F5 is a switching regulator (also called a switched-mode power supply (SMPS) or DC-to-DC converter) that uses a buck-boost topology."
[15:22] <Triffid_Hunter> ah perfect
[15:24] <crapp> shiftplusone: thank you. I will add a capacitor to eliminate lc spikes
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[15:32] <crapp> oh additionally I want to measure the current coming from the batteries to know how when to change them. again pololu has breakout board for this. http://www.pololu.com/catalog/product/1187
[15:33] <mgottschlag> don't you rather want to know the voltage to find out when the batteries are empty?
[15:33] <crapp> in order to use this sensor I need to use a analog to didtal converter like the mcp3008
[15:33] <crapp> mgottschlag: hmm, but isn't it better to measure the current?
[15:34] <crapp> will the voltage really change that much?
[15:34] <mgottschlag> the current varies wildly depending on what the device draws from the battery
[15:34] <IT_Sean> Since noone else is going to say it, i will. ... You do realize that 4x AA batteries will not have a very long runtime, right?
[15:34] <mgottschlag> and when you meaure no current anymore, then your device is dead :)
[15:35] <IT_Sean> ^ that
[15:35] <crapp> IT_Sean: yes I know also have an 8x AA batterie holder :)
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[15:36] <mgottschlag> http://www.stefanv.com/electronics/using_nimh/nimh_vs_alkaline.gif
[15:37] <pksato> normally, only battery voltage are monitored. if below 80% of nominal voltage, it is considered discharged.
[15:38] <mgottschlag> unless it is LiIon or similar, where the voltage won't tell much about the battery state and the charge is normally counted by integrating over the current :)
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[15:40] <crapp> back to the pololu breakout board that measures current. they say it is designed to work with 5v systems. I can provide 5v as this is what my voltage regulator produces and then the breakout board is connected to the mcp3008 which interfaces with pi via SPI. Is this safe? in fact this question is for all analog sensors that I need to connect to the mcp3008
[15:40] <crapp> I will use eneloop batteries from sanyo
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[15:43] <pksato> charge battery is more complex.
[15:44] <mgottschlag> crapp: you need some level conversion for SPI
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[15:44] <mgottschlag> probably just a voltage divider in the MISO path
[15:45] <pksato> Lithiun basead battery have a very complex charge sequency.
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[15:50] <crapp> mgottschlag: do I need always a level shifter when using a mcp3008 and working with analog sensors?
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[15:52] <mgottschlag> the thing is that you either need to run the mcp3008 at 5V in order to measure 0V-5V analog signals (and then the MISO line contains a 5V signal which must not be connected to the pi)
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[15:53] <mgottschlag> you can also use the voltage divider to generate a 0V-3.3V analog signal, and then run the mcp3008 at 3.3V, without any level shifter for SPI
[15:53] <mgottschlag> so, at some point you need to make the conversion between 5v and 3.3v signals
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[15:57] <crapp> mgottschlag: so if I connect my analog sensor to this level shifter http://www.watterott.com/de/Level-Shifter (I hope you can understand german) I don't need to do this between the mcp3008 and the pi, correct?
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[15:58] <crapp> mgottschlag: thanks for the illustration concerning battery voltage
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[15:59] <mgottschlag> crapp: those level shifters usually (always?) are for digital signals, and especially to *increase* the signal voltage
[16:00] <mgottschlag> as you don't want that, and you want an analog conversion, just use a voltage divider
[16:00] <mgottschlag> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voltage_divider
[16:00] <mgottschlag> much cheaper
[16:00] <crapp> so if I measure voltage I can't tell how much electric charge is left until the batteries are nearly empty, at least it looks like that when one watches the Nimh curve
[16:01] <crapp> for a voltage divider I would only need some resistors I suppose. need to read your wikipedia link...
[16:01] <mgottschlag> note that ADCs usually are quite precise
[16:01] <mgottschlag> so with a sufficiently precise ADC and batteries where the curve doesn't vary a lot between charging cycles etc, it *is* possible
[16:01] <mgottschlag> using a current sensor might be a bit more precise
[16:02] <mgottschlag> but not with the sensor you linked, that one won't be at all precise enough
[16:02] <mgottschlag> also, that needs quite some custom software to manually count the charge which remains in the battery
[16:03] <mgottschlag> and using a current sensor means that the software which counts the charge needs to be running all the time, and needs to be measuring current all the time
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[16:03] <mgottschlag> so you might want to use an external microcontroller, or you end up using up a lot of CPU time on the pi
[16:03] <mgottschlag> for good precision with this method, you need very frequent current readings
[16:04] <mgottschlag> also, if you want to read the current, do it with a current measuring amplifier, across a current sense resistor (0.1Ohm or something like that, and the amplifier amplifies the voltage across that resistor, which will be linear to the current, according to ohm's law)
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[16:05] <SpeedEvil> Don't bother.
[16:05] <SpeedEvil> Tehre are really nice integrating battery charge monitors.
[16:05] <mgottschlag> that sensor you linked reads the magnetic field created by the current instead, which is better for very high currents (because resistors tend to get quite warm then ^^), but the magnetic field varies a lot, you just need to rotate the sensor a bit, and the earth magnetic field will change the values
[16:06] <SpeedEvil> That do all of the integration for you, and you just nee to poll them occasionally.
[16:07] <crapp> so measuring voltage is much easier. what do you mean is not precise? the analog digital converter mcp3008 or the current sensor? oh I think you mean the current sensor
[16:07] <mgottschlag> yes
[16:07] <crapp> hehe, good I came here for asking.
[16:08] <mgottschlag> also, what SpeedEvil means is commonly called a "coulomb counter", you might find breakout boards for that as well
[16:08] <mgottschlag> (but I never saw any)
[16:08] <crapp> very informative mgottschlag
[16:08] <SpeedEvil> http://www.ti.com/product/bq27200
[16:08] <SpeedEvil> For example
[16:09] <crapp> so now I have to find out how I can measure the voltage
[16:09] <mgottschlag> crapp: you already have an ADC, that is all you need (it needs to be rather precise though, you can calculate the mimimum voltage change by calculating V_ref / (2^(ADC-Bits)) )
[16:10] <mgottschlag> *the minimum voltage change which will be recognized by the sensor
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[16:17] <crapp> mgottschlag: no I mean I want to measure the voltage provided by the batteries. I thought you said it would be easier to measure this. So for AA batteries deliver 4.8V when fully charged. If voltage drops to 4V (~80%) they can be considered empty
[16:17] <crapp> s/for/four
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[16:24] <mgottschlag> crapp: yes, you do that by just attaching an ADC for this
[16:24] <mgottschlag> and the ADC needs to be rather precise because the voltage curve is quite flat
[16:25] <crapp> any suggestion for a precise ADC, mgottschlag?
[16:25] <mgottschlag> unless you are only interested in the parts where the voltage curve isn't flat any more
[16:25] <mgottschlag> sec, let me look at your ADC first
[16:26] <mgottschlag> hm, the mcp3008 is 10bit, that means that your measurement precision is about 3mV (6mV if you scale the input range to 0V-6V with a resistor divider)
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[16:26] <mgottschlag> and 6mV should be enough
[16:27] <crapp> mgottschlag: high precision is always good :D
[16:27] <crapp> mgottschlag: sounds promising
[16:27] <mgottschlag> http://www.powerstream.com/z/AA-NiMH-composite.png <- note that the curve depends a lot on the current
[16:28] <mgottschlag> so, I don't actually know how you find out where in the curve you are
[16:29] <mgottschlag> maybe you need to additionally measure the current, to find out where your curve whould approximately be, etc etc
[16:30] <crapp> I see. gets more and more complex this little project :) thanks again!!!
[16:30] <mgottschlag> or you really go for a coulomb counter - this one looks as if it was possible to solder by hand with a ssop breakout board http://cds.linear.com/docs/en/datasheet/4150fc.pdf
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[16:31] <mgottschlag> *MSOP
[16:32] <mgottschlag> but that also requires additional software
[16:32] <mgottschlag> it is indeed a bit complex :)
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[16:34] <crapp> and I thought battery monitoring would be the easiest part. I want to detect movement with a PIR, activate a webcam and some face recognition with opencv including a specific reaction depending on what face was detected...
[16:35] <SpeedEvil> crapp: the Pi is very battery hungry
[16:35] <SpeedEvil> crapp: Think 1W or so minimum power down.
[16:35] <mgottschlag> indeed, if you want to run it for hours, use a different battery (like, a large sealed lead acid or something)
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[16:36] <mgottschlag> or some more powerful lithium ion
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[16:36] <SpeedEvil> Even a 15Ah 12V battery will only give you about a week.
[16:36] <mgottschlag> (or of course a large block of nimh, would work as well ^^)
[16:36] <SpeedEvil> (typical motorcycle battery sized battery)
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[16:37] <SpeedEvil> How fast can the pi come up to a minimal boot would be the obvious next question.
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[16:38] <crapp> The batteries are only to be independent in the prototyping phase, I will have access to a normal power supply later
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[16:38] <mgottschlag> then you don't need any complex battery monitoring
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[16:38] <mgottschlag> just shut everything down before your nimh batteries are destroyed
[16:38] <crapp> but interesting fact that the pi needs so much energy
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[16:39] <crapp> mgottschlag: right should do it the easy way
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[16:40] <mgottschlag> (my gf has a wireless keyboard which keeps discharging one of the two batteries to almost 0V, really annoying - while it is often possible to revive the battery, my normal nimh charger won't accept it any more -.-)
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[16:41] <crapp> but on the other hand I don't suppose there are other boards that use much lesser energy. I mean to do face recognition with opencv you need some CPU power and ram, so this can't be done with an arduino
[16:41] <crapp> and I don't know how much power an arduino uno for example needs
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[16:43] <mgottschlag> the largest problem is that the pi doesn't have any good power management
[16:43] <mgottschlag> unlike chips commonly used in smartphones
[16:44] <crapp> mgottschlag: don't use wireless keyboards ;) I stopped using such input devices. Cable connections is simply more reliable
[16:44] <crapp> mgottschlag: sounds like we need a revision 3 of the pi
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[16:48] <gordonDrogon> the Pi is OK for what it is (IMO). there are a very small number of people who want it much lower power (myself included), but I doubt it'll happen.
[16:49] <gordonDrogon> mostly because it doesn't need to happen for the majority of users, however the IR camera was the result of people wanting it, so who knows!
[16:49] <gordonDrogon> you can turn off the USB on a Rev 2 Pi which saves 100mA or so.
[16:49] <gordonDrogon> I think you can also turn off the video refresh, but I don't know if that saves power.
[16:50] <crapp> yeah I was astonished about the IR camera. I think it is useful but I didn't expect many people wanting such a device
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[16:53] <crapp> I read something about monitoring wild life in Africa. I think people are more eager to have a look at the neighbor with their pi/ir drone ;)
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[16:57] <gordonDrogon> I have a little device that'll allow me to put a Pi into low-power mode (halt state) then wake it up at a signal, or at a certian time.
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[16:57] <gordonDrogon> or even power it down completely to wake it up at a pre-set time (the monitor device is running off a coin cell, so can only use its built in timer, but I'm working on a remote wired switch)
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[17:01] <mcsim> gordonDrogon: Hello again. Here TS argues that banks are divided as 28+26: http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=44&t=35371
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[17:03] <gordonDrogon> mcsim, hm. who knows then. I know what I've done in wiringPi - the usable gpio's are all in the first bank anyway. <= 31.
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[17:04] <gordonDrogon> although wiringPi will correctly (as far as I'm aware) allow you to poke all 54 gpio pins (which usually crashes the Pi when you get it wrong)
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[17:15] <Vanfanel> hi. I'm using distcc to compile a big cpp program in a small Raspberry Pi computer. At some point, it has an error but I can't see it because it will hang forever at the "retrying compilation locally"
[17:15] <Vanfanel> 2So, how can I see the error on the host compiler machine??
[17:15] <Vanfanel> I checked the logs in /var/log, with no luck
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[17:41] <herdingcat> anyone ever run pidora under qemu-system-arm?
[17:41] <shiftplusone> What's special about pidora over any other distro when it comes to qemu?
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[17:48] <herdingcat> shiftplusone, it's normal, but the kernel is a problem, I cannot use rpi's kernel.
[17:48] <herdingcat> shiftplusone, http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=46156&p=363801
[17:48] <shiftplusone> no, you can't, qemu emulates different hardware
[17:48] <shiftplusone> only the cpu is the same
[17:48] <herdingcat> shiftplusone, the author mentioned "recompile arm kernel to support VersitilePB"
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[17:49] <Pharaoh> Hey what cool stuff have people done with raspberrypi?
[17:49] <shiftplusone> the author (I) also provides a download to a pre-compiled kernel.
[17:49] <shiftplusone> http://xecdesign.com/downloads/linux-qemu/kernel-qemu
[17:50] <shiftplusone> well, the author of that xecdesign article, not the forum post.
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[17:51] <shiftplusone> No idea why the guy says you need to recompile it. The provided kernel does not work at all? =S
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[18:02] <jda2000> Anybody able to run Netbeans on their RPis after installing Oracale Java 7 ?
[18:02] <jda2000> Oracle
[18:03] <jda2000> How about Eclipse?
[18:03] <jda2000> Hello? This thing on?
[18:05] <shiftplusone> yes, but I think people are too sane to run such things
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[18:26] <Squarepy> jikes eclipse can floor a proper desktop
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[18:28] <lord4163> jda2000: yeah really, I don't think you even want to run that on the Pi. :P
[18:30] <jda2000> lord4163, OK, That's good to know.
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[18:42] <log`> Hi there. I just got my RPi in the and am enjoying poking around with it thoroughly so far. I have it set up running Raspbian headless and am accessing it via SSH with putty on windows. I am trying to set up a samba share so I can access the filesystem on the RPi from my windows machine. Depending on which guide I follow there seems to be different procedures for going about this, some deprecated and some not. I am having an awful l
[18:42] <log`> So I was hoping someone could recommend an authoritative guide on how to set up samba shares on raspbian?
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[18:43] <sney> log`: http://debian-handbook.info/browse/stable/sect.windows-file-server-with-samba.html
[18:43] <log`> thanks a bunch :)
[18:44] <atouk> or use SWAT
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[18:45] <log`> atouk: yeah I read about that but I would rather learn how to do it the 'manual' way, thanks though :)
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[18:47] <atouk> there's also webmin (recommended install if you're running a server)
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[18:57] <log`> I am an idiot. Everything was setup correctly except for a type in the path of the share.
[18:57] <log`> Thanks y'all :)
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[18:57] <log`> typo*
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[21:05] <Niklas__E> do you need a special kernel for rpi?
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[21:06] <gordonDrogon> it needs a few bits added.
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[21:09] <Niklas__E> is there any overlay for gentoo?
[21:09] <gordonDrogon> no idea what that is, but I know some people are running gentoo on the Pi.
[21:10] <Niklas__E> ok
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[21:12] <rikkib> The rpi has a firmware boot loader. All you need to do is to duplicate what other systems do.
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[21:17] <shiftplusone> The gentoo wiki has a decent enough page on the pi
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[21:26] <dagerik> I did sudo ./create_sdcard /dev/sdb -- and booted the pi. but xbmc did not show up. only blue screen at hdmi
[21:27] <dagerik> help
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[21:29] <linuxstb> dagerik: What LEDs are lit on your Pi?
[21:30] <linuxstb> dagerik: http://elinux.org/R-Pi_Troubleshooting#Power_.2F_Start-up will help
[21:31] <dagerik> linuxstb: only PWR
[21:31] <dagerik> it worked 5 mins ago when i had arch on it. tried to add xbmc
[21:32] <linuxstb> Is this the same SD card that you installed Arch onto?
[21:33] <dagerik> yeah
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[21:43] <linuxstb> dagerik: Did you run "eject" before removing the SD card?
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[22:05] <roxlu> hi
[22:06] <plugwash> hi
[22:06] <bruxc> Hello, I'm *extremely* new. My apologies in advance. I just purchased me this fun nerdbox. Is there a way I can use a laptop as a monitor for it? I've been trying but to no avail.
[22:07] <roxlu> This might be a bit off topic but also somewhat related...
[22:07] <roxlu> I want to use a Logitech C920 webcam which has build in h264 support + rpi to stream video over a local network
[22:07] <roxlu> (or remote using rtmp)
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[22:08] <BCMM> bruxc: new to the pi, or entirely new to linux?
[22:08] <bruxc> Both, I'm a hot mess.
[22:08] <roxlu> I'm retrieving the h264 data using v4l2 but I'm wondering how to get timestamps for the nal units I receive... anyone around who has an idea? (all input more then welcome ^.^)
[22:09] <BCMM> bruxc: and to answer your question, you (almost certainly) can't get actual video input in to your laptop, but there are ways to send the display over a network
[22:09] <rikkib> I use motion for web cams
[22:09] <BCMM> bruxc: do you want to see a text console or a graphical desktop on your laptop?
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[22:09] <bruxc> Originally, I was hoping to use it as a graphical desktop just as a temporary screen.
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[22:10] <rikkib> http://122.61.65.146:8081
[22:10] <BCMM> bruxc: have you heard of VNC?
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[22:10] <bruxc> BCMM: I am somewhat familiar with it. It's an open-sourced remote agent yeah?
[22:10] <BCMM> bruxc: that sort of thing. actually it's a protocol and there are both open and closed clients and servers for it
[22:11] <BCMM> bruxc: you can run a VNC server on the Pi without having to have a "real" display plugged in
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[22:11] <roxlu> rikkib: do you have a link maybe?
[22:11] <bruxc> I see, so you can connect a network cable to it and have the display/keyboard/mouse connected to it?
[22:11] <BCMM> bruxc: that is, a desktop that only exists over VNC, rather than using VNC to control a desktop that's also connected to a local keyboard and monitor
[22:11] <BCMM> bruxc: yeah
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[22:12] <rikkib> roxlu, Hmmm the web site for motion is a bit obscure but can be found in a google search
[22:12] <bruxc> I'm interested in this.
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[22:13] <bruxc> BCMM: Would you happen to have an article you could link me that will further assist me in this route? I believe this VNC is perfect for what I need (for now).
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[22:13] <BCMM> bruxc: do you have something you can use as a display temporarily so you can set up the remote desktop stuff?
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[22:14] <bruxc> I currently have an HDMI and network cable plugged into a laptop.
[22:14] <BCMM> bruxc: uh, what's on the other end of hte HDMI cable? the pi?
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[22:14] <rikkib> http://www.lavrsen.dk/foswiki/bin/view/Motion/WebHome
[22:15] <pksato> smoke?
[22:15] <roxlu> rikkib: thanks
[22:16] <bruxc> BCMM: correct.
[22:16] <rikkib> roxlu, It takes a bit to config and you will have to try different configs to get what you want
[22:16] <BCMM> bruxc: yeah, that isn't going to work :)
[22:16] <bruxc> Haha, darn.
[22:16] <bruxc> BCMM: What do you recommend?
[22:16] <BCMM> bruxc: unless your laptop is deeply weird, those are both HDMI outputs
[22:16] <bruxc> Oh I see..
[22:16] <rikkib> roxlu, Biggest issue is no security
[22:16] <BCMM> bruxc: what have you got on the SD card? is it one of those raspberry-pi branded cards with NOOB on it?
[22:17] <BCMM> ^NOOBS
[22:17] <bruxc> Theoretically, I could plug this pi into a HDMI TV though, yeah?
[22:17] <bruxc> BCMM: Yup
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[22:17] <BCMM> anybody know if there is a way to ssh in to noobs? i haven't really used it
[22:17] <BCMM> bruxc: yeah, you should be able to plug the Pi in to almost any TV
[22:17] <BCMM> bruxc: if it doesn't have hdmi, it probably has composite (the yellow plug)
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[22:18] <roxlu> rikkib: I'm looking for someone who knows a bit about h264 streams that certains webcams can deliver by default.. in #motion there might be someone
[22:18] <bruxc> Hm, gotcha.
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[22:18] <bruxc> Now, would VNC work without the HDMI?
[22:18] <bruxc> or composit.
[22:18] <bruxc> composte*
[22:18] <bruxc> ....
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[22:18] <bruxc> composite* haha...sorry.
[22:19] <BCMM> bruxc: yeah, vnc works over the network, and can work without having to have a "real" display
[22:19] <rikkib> The best I have with motion 640x480 @ 1fps But I think it can do h264
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[22:19] <BCMM> bruxc: it's a little confusing because most people use vnc to controll an ordinary desktop session (think mouse magically moving around your screen), but on linux you can have a VNC-only session
[22:19] <bruxc> BCMM: Would it be safe to assume that I would have to somehow install VNC on the SD card of the pi and then somehow get the VNC information to login to it..
[22:20] <bruxc> Right, I'm imagining that it's a regular ol' 'TeamViewer' type session. Is that wrong?
[22:20] <BCMM> bruxc: yeah, very much like teamviewer
[22:20] <BCMM> bruxc: you'll want to connect with ssh to set up the graphical stuff (ssh is a way to use the command-line remotely)
[22:20] <pksato> but, VNC is not enabled by default, and need some know how to do.
[22:21] <bruxc> I see. Is there any easy-to-comprehend material on this subject?
[22:21] <rikkib> In this country there is still issues with slow adsl... 320x240 = 50kbps stream... 640 = >100kbps
[22:21] <bruxc> But the tutorials I'm reading are making my brain hurt.
[22:21] <BCMM> bruxc: as far as i know NOOBS is not set up to be used remotely, so there are two ways to get this set up: either plug it in to a TV or monitor temporarily, or flash the SD card with an image that comes with SSH enabled
[22:22] <bruxc> Gotcha, know of any images off the top of your head that have SSH enabled?
[22:22] <bruxc> I don't need to have this OS. I just picked it because it was the first thing I heard of.
[22:22] <BCMM> bruxc: there are raspbian ones that have SSH by default
[22:22] <bruxc> Gotcha.
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[22:22] <rikkib> My adsl 1mbps in 100kbps out
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[22:22] <BCMM> bruxc: i'm not quite sure which ones have it though... you could ask #rasbian to give you a link
[22:23] <BCMM> bruxc: on windows, you can use Putty as an ssh client
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[22:24] <BCMM> bruxc: Putty will give you command-line access to the pi from your laptop, which you can use to install VNC using raspbian's excellent package manager
[22:24] <bruxc> Nice, All right. I will get Putty and flash it really fast.
[22:25] <BCMM> bruxc: putty wasn't a recommendation for the SD card
[22:25] <BCMM> putty is a windows application you can use to connect to the pi
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[22:25] <BCMM> does anybody know if the Foundation's official raspbian image has ssh enabled by default?
[22:26] <bruxc> Oh, My bad.
[22:26] <rikkib> Yes ssh is enabled by default
[22:26] <BCMM> rikkib: thanks
[22:27] <BCMM> rikkib: there's no way to ssh in to NOOBS is there?
[22:27] <rikkib> You also need a dhcp server
[22:27] <rikkib> to assign ip to rpi
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[22:27] <BCMM> rikkib: is there a better way than getting bruxc to write a raspbian image to the card?
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[22:27] <rikkib> noobs I do not know
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[22:27] <joe_k> looking to turn on the GPIO pullup via /sys/class/gpio ... is that possible?
[22:28] <rikkib> I write images from a Linux box
[22:28] <joe_k> digging around in https://github.com/raspberrypi/linux/blob/rpi-3.2.27/arch/arm/mach-bcm2708/bcm2708_gpio.c isnt telling me anything
[22:28] <BCMM> rikkib: same, never really used noobs
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[22:28] <rikkib> using a sd card adapter
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[22:28] <BCMM> bruxc: my advice is to get Raspbian from http://www.raspberrypi.org/downloads, and put it on your card
[22:28] <bruxc> Ok.
[22:28] <bruxc> I'll do that now.
[22:28] <BCMM> rikkib: where can we find the password for the Foundation's image?
[22:29] <BCMM> bruxc: then log in to it over ssh, using putty. you may have to ask your router for the IP address it has assigned to the pi, or scan your network, or guess the IP
[22:29] <rikkib> Once I write an image a play around a bit I generally take a copy of the sd card and use that to write other sd cards after manually partitioning and formating
[22:30] <BCMM> bruxc: i've got to go now, but "sudo apt-get install tightvncserver" will install a vnc server, and "tightvncserver" will start it up
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[22:30] <BCMM> bruxc: http://www.tightvnc.com/download.php for a windows VNC client
[22:30] <rikkib> user pi password is raspberry I thing but it it on the foundations web site
[22:30] <BCMM> bruxc: ^
[22:30] <bruxc> BCMM: thanks for all of your help mate, much obliged.
[22:30] <BCMM> bruxc: good luck
[22:30] <bruxc> :) Thanks.
[22:31] <rikkib> Default login pi / raspberry
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[22:33] <rikkib> First command I run on a rpi sudo passwd
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[23:07] <gordonDrogon> joe_k, I don't think it's possible via /sys/class...
[23:08] <gordonDrogon> joe_k, install wiringPi & use the gpio command...
[23:08] <joe_k> ill see if my friend wants to download. he's using nodejs so was looking for a library for that
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[23:09] <dagerik> I did sudo ./create_sdcard /dev/sdb -- and booted the pi. but xbmc did not show up. only blue screen at hdmi
[23:09] <gordonDrogon> I think there are wiringPi wrappers for node.js somewhere.
[23:09] <joe_k> build from scratch? no deb?
[23:12] <ShorTie> no debs
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[23:18] <pksato> http://blog.whaleygeek.co.uk/building-the-worlds-biggest-raspberry-pi-display/
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[23:20] <dagerik> my xbmc install is not working. the SD card LED never blinks at power on
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[23:28] <joe_k> i blame your power supply
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