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IRC Log for 2013-10-24

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[0:07] <f00bar80> Sonny_Jim, so is it supported by default on the Rpi ?
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[0:11] <Sonny_Jim> LVDS?
[0:11] <Sonny_Jim> No
[0:11] <f00bar80> Sonny_Jim, then what do i need exactly?
[0:11] <Sonny_Jim> There is a DSI interface, but there's no documentation
[0:11] <Sonny_Jim> I mean, if you'd actually *read* the link I posted you'd know this
[0:11] <Sonny_Jim> http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=2369
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[0:13] <f00bar80> Sonny_Jim, then what/which lcd/displays are supported by default on Rpi?
[0:15] <f00bar80> Sonny_Jim, any touch TFT LCD can be supported like any of those can be by default suppported ? http://store.fut-electronics.com/Display+%26+LCD/TFT+Touch+LCD.html
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[0:19] <sinni800> i want to do something like a presentation for endless looping on my rpi, think powerpoint on a big screen
[0:19] <sinni800> is there any software good fitting on a rpi and up for the task?
[0:19] <sinni800> i dont know if pulling in OOo is a good idea
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[0:22] <Sonny_Jim> sinni800: Export to jpg, run a slideshow app
[0:23] <Sonny_Jim> f00bar80: The only video output that works is HDMI/Composite
[0:23] <Sonny_Jim> If you want to use the DSI interface, you need to sign a non-disclosure agreement and agree to buy a certain amount of DSI convertor chips
[0:23] <sinni800> Sonny_Jim: sounds like a good idea... what if i wanted to do animations, would i screenrecord it to mp4 in that case?
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[0:24] <f00bar80> Sonny_Jim, so any of the TFT LCDs in the link above can work on Rpi?
[0:24] <sinni800> http://www.tinygreenpc.com/monitors.aspx f00bar80 they have hdmi ones
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[0:25] <sinni800> the 7" is "compatible with raspberry pi" :)
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[0:25] <sinni800> it also has touch
[0:26] <sinni800> ... i completely missed the point... you mean small ones
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[0:26] <sinni800> f00bar80: sorry
[0:26] <sinni800> embedded small lcds, yeah
[0:26] <Mrgoose> I have a raspberr pi connected to a usb battery pack, after a while it appears to go off and only the red LED is lit and no video output. If i unplug the power and plug it back in , it starts back up fine
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[0:26] <Mrgoose> does that mean the voltage dropped to low at one point?
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[0:28] <f00bar80> sinni800, so the small LCDs are compatible ? no need to any extra boards ?
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[0:32] <sinni800> f00bar80: i cant help you there.. if they have controllers, they are probably compatible, depends on the kind of connection though
[0:33] <f00bar80> sinni800, it says Arduino Mega compatible multicolored TFT display
[0:35] <sinni800> with my limited knowledge i'd say..
[0:35] <sinni800> it has 12 bits, 8 data, 4 control
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[0:36] <f00bar80> so ppl what do you suggest is this TFT compatible with Rpi ? http://store.fut-electronics.com/SLD62445P-1.html
[0:37] <sinni800> f00bar80: i found something
[0:37] <sinni800> http://www.element14.com/community/groups/raspberry-pi/blog/2012/12/13/tftweet-alamode-connects-arduino-shield-to-the-raspberry-pi
[0:38] <sinni800> so might be not directly connectable
[0:39] <f00bar80> sinni800, so how basically on the first time i use Rpi, i'll be able to communicate with Rpi without a screen ?
[0:39] <sinni800> f00bar80: you can connect a screen using hdmi?
[0:40] <Mrgoose> im using 3.7v lithium battery by the way
[0:41] <sinni800> that question was rhetoric
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[0:42] <f00bar80> anybody can suggest a Rpi connectable and compatible 5" or 7" touchscreen
[0:43] <sney> look, it's a linux computer. if you find something that can connect to the pi's pins or usb port, and it has linux kernel support, then you can use it
[0:45] <f00bar80> sney, i have my old android (it should support linux kernel ) tablet touchscreen , http://imgur.com/zOhlvlu,CI0HM6g , but don't know what do i need to get it connected to Rpi
[0:47] <sney> you get to figure it out. the big ribbon is probably the display cable, maybe dvi, and the small ribbon is probably the input
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[0:47] <sney> get your multimeter, read some standards, start hacking
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[0:48] <sinni800> sney: doesnt have to be dvi, there's another standard used inside devices like this... i forgot what it was tho
[0:49] <sney> yeah there's a few things it could be
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[0:51] <f00bar80> sney, so what about this one http://store.fut-electronics.com/SLD62445P-1.html do you think can by default work on Rpi?
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[0:52] <sney> does it have compatible pins and linux kernel support?
[0:55] <Mrgoose> f00bar80: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7uRCweGXP0
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[1:00] <f00bar80> sney, how to know if it has linux kernel support?
[1:00] <sney> look it up. figure out what drivers it uses. ask the vendor. google model name + linux
[1:01] <sney> if you want to do computing projects, you really need to know how to research these things
[1:01] <f00bar80> sney, tried to google this model .. nothing came out for it
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[1:02] <sney> ask the vendor then
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[1:11] <f00bar80> sney, i found one with a composite input , this can work ?
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[1:12] <sney> f00bar80: what do you think?
[1:14] <f00bar80> sney, don't know really
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[1:14] <sney> why are you doing this project?
[1:15] <f00bar80> sney, trying to learn
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[1:15] <sney> indeed
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[1:16] <sney> so, read about the raspberry pi and understand what inputs and outputs it has. then you will have a better chance of answering these questions yourself
[1:16] <sney> if you just whine on IRC for every answer, then you will never learn anything useful
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[2:14] <miasma> i guess the "vchiq_get_state:g_state.remote->initialised != 1 (0)" issue is still unresolved? I noticed that I'm constantly hitting this when booting a custom kernel. i had to disable the CMA to make it work
[2:14] <miasma> that is, when booting the kernel, it hangs on this in say 1-2 seconds after the cold boot and won't continue
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[3:11] <jacres> hey guys, setting up my first rpi. Wondering if I should install raspbian or archlinux
[3:11] <jacres> i have arch installed on 2 machines (desktop and laptop) and like it, but I'm wondering about OpenGL performance with wayland.. I do OpenGL dev and curious if it's much faster
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[3:25] <miasma> jacres: arch also supports wayland
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[3:28] <jacres> miasma: yeah? is it worth it? I mean, does raspbiean bypass X completely?
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[3:28] <jacres> err raspbian
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[3:30] <miasma> jacres: i haven't used it much. just played a bit with terminals
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[3:33] <jacres> ah ok thanks
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[4:05] <[Saint]> using wayland only for a terminal session has to be about the most boring thing you could possibly do with it.
[4:05] <[Saint]> And, I'm not entirely sure that *any* difference would be immediately visible. ;)
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[4:10] <Mrgoose> anyone doing a battery powered setup?
[4:12] <Mrgoose> http://raspi.tv/2013/pi-duration-tests-and-review-of-two-new-lithium-battery-packs
[4:16] <[Saint]> WHy do I get the idea that you're trying to bug someone. :)
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[9:07] <Nefarious___> any Op that I could speak to?
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[9:09] <D4CH_RPi> Ops are probably asleep
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[9:10] <Nefarious___> that's why I asked ;)
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[9:11] <D4CH_RPi> MODS ARE ASLEEP POST SINKS
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[11:15] <gordonDrogon> some are awake...
[11:17] <MrVector> Yes sir
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[11:20] <gordonDrogon> but the person who was asking is now gone... ah well.
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[11:24] <Nefarious___> not quite :P
[11:30] <gordonDrogon> ah.
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[11:43] <Kake_Fisk> Should I add pi@raspberrypi to the www-data group?
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[11:45] <Nefarious___> Kake_Fisk: you asked before about Apache or Cherokee. I would suggest lighttpd personally. I'm guessing you're following tinkernut 320?
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[11:47] <Kake_Fisk> I'm not following anything really. But I have already downloaded php :|
[11:47] <Kake_Fisk> apache*
[11:47] <Kake_Fisk> ligthhttpd sounds nice from the name
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[11:48] <Nefarious___> ah. I found this helpful. http://tinkernut.com/wiki/page/Episode_320 apart from phpmyadmin (wrong)
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[11:49] <Nefarious___> but I used lighttpd
[11:49] <MrVector> I've ran into something that's had me stumped for a while now, in my bare metal project I'm sending and receiving via the mini uart successfully, it works without a problem. Thing is, the reading part breaks with the simple addition of a printf() call that prints to the screen. Any ideas what might be causing this?
[11:49] * MrVector is confused
[11:49] <Nefarious___> look at the comments. there is 1 major mistake
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[11:50] <Kake_Fisk> Ou, looks nice.
[11:50] <Kake_Fisk> Do you use ssh now?
[11:51] <Nefarious___> yeah. I actually removed the webserver recently though.
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[11:52] <Nefarious___> the pi couldn't handle loads
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[11:53] <Kake_Fisk> oh
[11:54] <Kake_Fisk> Can I make my raspbian os only boot into terminal and not dekstop?
[11:55] <Nefarious___> like >50 hits, I ran a shop.
[11:55] <gordonDrogon> Kake_Fisk, yes - run sudo raspi-config and change the option there.
[11:55] <Nefarious___> sudo raspi-config
[11:55] <Kake_Fisk> ah, thanks
[11:55] <Nefarious___> you beat me to it
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[11:59] <Kake_Fisk> The only user on my rpi is the user pi, right?
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[12:02] <Nefarious___> unless you've added another
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[12:03] <Kake_Fisk> Aight, danke
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[12:03] <Jck_True> Kake_Fisk: There's also "root" but on Debian the root account sorta doesn't exsist :)
[12:03] <Kake_Fisk> oh
[12:03] <Kake_Fisk> sudo means execute from root?
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[12:04] <sinni800> Jck_True: oh not even on debian anymore?
[12:04] <sinni800> didnt ubuntu start the no-root craze?
[12:04] <Jck_True> Sudo = Super User DO :)
[12:04] <Jck_True> I think debian started it - Ubuntu is buildt on debian :)
[12:04] <Kake_Fisk> Oh, didn't know that
[12:05] <Kake_Fisk> I like Ubuntu ^^
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[12:08] <sinni800> Jck_True: oh wow okay
[12:08] <sinni800> i thought ubuntu started it and debian took that idea up
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[12:16] <Davespice> Nefarious___: see pm
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[12:31] <Nefarious___> Davespice: sorry for an untimely reply.
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[12:37] <gordonDrogon> root is still there - and on a default debian install you get the choice to enable it or not. in Raspbian it's disabled so you need to use sudo, but it's easiy to enable just simply setting a password in the root account - sudo passwd root and off you go.
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[12:39] <sinni800> gordonDrogon: ah okay
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[13:13] <Kake_Fisk> I can't seem to create a file in www -.-
[13:13] <Kake_Fisk> I am in the right group and the folder have rwx permission in the folder
[13:13] <Kake_Fisk> s/in the folder/for the group
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[13:16] <Nefarious___> tutorial suggests sudo usermod -d /var/www pi
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[13:51] <quackgyver> sup
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[13:51] <quackgyver> Anyone done anything kiosk-like with their rPi?
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[13:55] <Kake_Fisk> How can I make the users not being able to access other folders than www?
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[13:56] <Nefarious___> change the permissions
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[14:03] <Jck_True> I have one of the first Pi boards - Its safe to remove the Polyfuses for the USB ports right?
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[14:05] <Triffid_Hunter> Jck_True: no. probably safer to bypass than remove completely, never can tell what's in a multilayer board like that, and if it's absorbed moisture it can steam-bubble and break internal traces
[14:05] <Jck_True> Triffid_Hunter: Well thats what I planned on doing - Just solder a tiny why across the two of them
[14:05] <Jck_True> wire*
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[14:06] <Jck_True> But the traces aren't wider on the Rev2 board right?
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[14:07] <Triffid_Hunter> nope. http://triffid-hunter.no-ip.info/101_0120.JPG works for me
[14:07] <Jck_True> Triffid_Hunter: Oh - You did it all the way
[14:07] <Jck_True> I was just gonna do it in the corner
[14:07] <Triffid_Hunter> Jck_True: spotted the MLCC? http://triffid-hunter.no-ip.info/101_0120_mlcc.jpg ;)
[14:07] <Jck_True> Across the polyfuse
[14:07] <Triffid_Hunter> Jck_True: naw that's not where the problem is
[14:08] <Triffid_Hunter> the problem is the traces from the poly to the USBA host sockets are too thin
[14:08] <Jck_True> I'm gonna supply the board from Pin header
[14:08] <Triffid_Hunter> Jck_True: http://triffid-hunter.no-ip.info/101_0059.JPG same problem, trust me
[14:09] <Jck_True> Triffid_Hunter: Oh crap :|
[14:09] <Triffid_Hunter> Jck_True: my solution works brilliantly though, I can now plug & unplug my wireless all day long and the rpi behaves perfectly
[14:09] <Jck_True> Triffid_Hunter: Wait
[14:09] <Jck_True> Triffid_Hunter: That's a rev2
[14:10] <Triffid_Hunter> yep
[14:10] <Jck_True> I'm on a rev1
[14:10] <Jck_True> All I need is enough power for a tiny BT dongle
[14:10] <Triffid_Hunter> ahh you got one with the tiny 140mA polyfuse?
[14:10] <Jck_True> Hitting the 140mA
[14:10] <Jck_True> Yeah
[14:11] <Triffid_Hunter> don't know about those, don't have one but bypassing the fuse seems to be recommended fairly widely
[14:11] <Jck_True> I was just gonna short that one
[14:11] <Triffid_Hunter> but i'd suggest running some wires around the various 5v points while the iron is hot
[14:11] <Jck_True> Gotcha
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[14:14] <Jck_True> Anyway - Once I get this working all remaining is a new display :)
[14:14] <Jck_True> Thanks Triffid_Hunter
[14:14] <Triffid_Hunter> yw, good luck
[14:15] <Jck_True> Dropped my 15inch LCD panel on the floor like a month ago :( :( *cryface*
[14:15] <Triffid_Hunter> remember- bare feet on concrete is an excellent defence against static build-up and consequent ESD.. touch somtehing grounded frequently, and touch the ground on your rpi too (metal shell of usb port for example)
[14:15] <Triffid_Hunter> Jck_True: pff those are so easy to come across.. get them off the side of the road, usually only needing an $8 inverter or $3 worth of capacitors and they're golden
[14:16] <Triffid_Hunter> I've got like 3 "refurbished" monitors around, and those are just the ones I've kept
[14:17] <Jck_True> Triffid_Hunter: I know - Just hate having to shove through all the junk
[14:18] <Jck_True> Triffid_Hunter: I work in a small electronic shop - Got a lab with Antistatic flooring etc
[14:18] <Triffid_Hunter> sounds fancy
[14:19] <Triffid_Hunter> plain concrete always works for me.. passes enough current that you can light a led dimly if you and your friend hold respective leads and terminals of a 9v battery
[14:19] <Jck_True> Triffid_Hunter: Fancy? It's in boss's basement - And our server room is the small room under the stairs
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[14:32] <tig|> 'nings all
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[14:52] <snoshers> can anyone do a capital W in pixel font 6 wide 8 high (i've tried and i think its impossible)
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[14:55] <tig|> snoshers: does it have to be 6 wide or could it be 5?
[14:55] <Draylor> it'll look crap, but i dont see why not. fill bottom line or two, fill columns 1, 3, 4, 6.
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[14:58] <MrVector> Bought a pc remote on a whim, delivered today, it shows up as a "USB composite device" in windows, works well. Now out of curiosity, do you think it would be at all possible to write a driver for it in my bare metal project? :)
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[14:59] <tig|> snoshers: this is about the best I can do without it looking too naff: https://www.dropbox.com/s/d480xas24pe22p4/W.JPG
[14:59] <snoshers> thanks
[14:59] <snoshers> i think 5 wide will do
[15:00] <tig|> if it is for general text use then just remove that pixel in the top left as it will usually be used at the beginning of the sentence
[15:00] <snoshers> yeh ok
[15:00] <tig|> but I would leave it in as then it will look less odd if used in all caps
[15:01] <tig|> especially if the rest of it is fixed width
[15:01] <snoshers> thanks i just can't do pixel art :)
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[15:02] <tig|> np
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[15:27] <sinni800> MrVector: does it contact with infrared?
[15:27] <MrVector> sinni800 yes, it has a usb infrared receiver
[15:27] <sinni800> ah.
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[15:28] <sinni800> then either your rpi gets the infrared receiver
[15:28] <sinni800> your lunix
[15:28] <sinni800> or you just ditch it for another
[15:28] <sinni800> infrared is infrared
[15:29] <sinni800> furthermore.. if its a composite device... did it make a COM port?
[15:29] <sinni800> in device manager
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[15:29] <sinni800> oh woops bare metal
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[15:30] <sinni800> in that case, it's probably really hard to write a usb driver
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[15:30] <sinni800> you would be better off with a serial infrared receiver
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[15:52] <MrVector> sinni800, how expensive would one of those be? :-)
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[15:52] <MrVector> Sorry for the late response, I'm at work and the people here expect me to actually work.
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[15:54] <busla> hey all, is anyone around that is familiar with light sensors for the GIOP? I´m searching for a sensor to put on an entrance of a room and then count each time someone goes in or out
[15:55] <sinni800> MrVector: same
[15:55] <sinni800> i dont know tbh
[15:56] <MrVector> I guess you're refering to something like http://www.amazon.co.uk/TIMETOP-RS232-Serial-Infrared-Adapter/dp/B00BQT75VG/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1382622960&sr=8-1&keywords=serial+ir
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[15:57] <MrVector> Although tbh I'm not opposed to making the usb driver, I'm not yet at that stage (currently working on the SD). But it is in my long term plan to create an interrupt based usb driver
[15:57] <MrVector> Which I reckon will be a massive project that'll take absolute ages to get something working
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[15:59] <MrVector> I guess what I was really asking is (as I don't know usb too well, yet), how hard would it be to create a driver for an arbitrary usb device without any documentation
[16:01] <MrVector> If it's possible to take a "trial and error" approach to it, or if that's unfeasible
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[16:05] <SpeedEvil> busla: you probably want a PIR sensor.
[16:05] <SpeedEvil> Passive infra-red
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[16:06] <SpeedEvil> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Narrow-PIR-Motion-Detector-Sensor-for-GSM-Alarm-Wall-Mounted-Diamond-Shape-/390617121850?pt=US_Surveillance_Accessories&hash=item5af298443a for example
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[16:06] <SpeedEvil> You would connect power to this, and then connect the relay output to a GPIO like any other switch
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[16:07] <MrVector> Just out of interest, I stumbled upon http://www.amazon.co.uk/Quest-Wired-Passive-Infra-red-Detector/dp/B001NLCPHQ/
[16:07] <busla> speedevil: right.. I was looking at this but it seems that it might detect motion around the door aswell: http://www.adafruit.com/products/189
[16:07] <MrVector> Would something like that work as well? :)
[16:07] <SpeedEvil> You want a narrow beamwidth.
[16:07] <SpeedEvil> So it only picks up motion actually at the door
[16:08] <SpeedEvil> In principle, yes.
[16:08] <MrVector> Ah right
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[16:08] <SpeedEvil> But that will be lots less pointed - the above one was 15 degrees angle
[16:08] <SpeedEvil> Which if mounted in the right place would be quite constrained
[16:08] <MrVector> I know nothing about these things, so interesting to hear what people have to say
[16:09] <SpeedEvil> What are you trying to do?
[16:09] <MrVector> so it's*
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[16:09] <MrVector> Oh i'm not doing anything at the moment, I always keep my eyes open for new ideas though!
[16:10] <MrVector> (If you were asking me)
[16:10] <busla> I´m thinking that this might work since the light will be blocked for some milliseconds: http://www.adafruit.com/products/161
[16:10] <SpeedEvil> -> busla
[16:11] <busla> ohh .. well I want to create a counter at a door entrance
[16:11] <busla> so everytime someone enters the counter will increment
[16:11] <busla> but the there is no door
[16:12] <busla> so a magnet solution will not work
[16:12] <MrVector> That sounds like fun
[16:12] <busla> I need some laser or light block
[16:12] <SpeedEvil> The 'right' solution is a Pi camera + software to pick people coming in or going out of the door.
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[16:13] <MrVector> Added benefit, you can take a picture of everyone!
[16:13] <SpeedEvil> Working out if someone is going in, going out of the door, or hesitating in the door and going back where they came from is hard.
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[16:13] <SpeedEvil> Or do you literally just need 'someone is in the door' inducation
[16:13] <busla> well.. that´s not really necessary and the privacy factor is a big thing for me :-)
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[16:14] <busla> well I want to count visitors without them registering
[16:14] <MrVector> A-ha
[16:14] <SpeedEvil> busla: Now - three people come through in a group - what happens?
[16:14] <SpeedEvil> If they're walking next to each other
[16:14] <busla> well the door is narrow
[16:14] <busla> pretty standard
[16:15] <SpeedEvil> If you're looking at DIY and cheap solutions.
[16:15] <SpeedEvil> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/5mW-Red-Laser-Dot-Diode-Module-650nm-x-2-New-UK-Arduino-PCB-PIC-/290940910525?pt=UK_Sound_Vision_Other&hash=item43bd6dfbbd for example
[16:15] <SpeedEvil> A cheap laser diode.
[16:15] <SpeedEvil> A small mirror on the other side of the door.
[16:15] <SpeedEvil> A photosensor to pick up the light.
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[16:16] <busla> ahh
[16:16] <busla> I will look at this
[16:16] <busla> but will I need an arduino board aswell?
[16:16] <SpeedEvil> Or take something like this, and gut it
[16:16] <SpeedEvil> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Single-Beam-Photoelectric-Infrared-Detector-Alarm-Home-Security-Warner-bej-/321151970205?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item4ac6262b9d
[16:16] <tig|> easy, two pressure mats, and swap the door for a revoling one
[16:16] <tig|> :)
[16:16] <SpeedEvil> The above was just using 'arduino' because it's a popular search term.
[16:16] <SpeedEvil> And yes - pressure mats have advantages
[16:18] <busla> pressure mats?
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[16:19] <tig|> yes, make the revoling door only spin one way, pressure mat on each side :) simple :)
[16:19] <tig|> but possibly more of a physical change than you are after :)
[16:19] <busla> there is no revolving door :-)
[16:20] <tig|> you didn't put keeping the existing door as a requirement or specify a budget :)
[16:20] <busla> haha
[16:20] <busla> ok, my bad
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[16:21] <SpeedEvil> busla: Pressure mats are mats that detect the pressure of a person walking onthem
[16:21] <tig|> short of doing motion tracking stuff you are always going to have edge cases regarding groups
[16:21] <MrVector> I think it's a good thing I'm on such a tight budget...
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[16:22] <MrVector> If I could afford it, I would wire up my entire house with sensors of all kinds
[16:22] <SpeedEvil> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Standard-Pressure-Mat-for-Intruder-Alarm-System-/380230648927?pt=UK_Burglar_Alarms&hash=item588783445f
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[16:23] <tig|> I suppose you could argue a simple way would be a pressure mat and magnetic switch on the door, put the mat on the inside, if the mat is triggered and the door opens +1 for going out
[16:23] <tig|> door opens and then pressure on the mat +1 going in
[16:23] <SpeedEvil> There is no door.
[16:24] <tig|> oh
[16:24] <MrVector> THen replace door with laser
[16:24] <tig|> MrVector: yes
[16:24] <busla> I´m trying to find that laser :-)
[16:24] <busla> still no luck
[16:24] <tig|> or just use two (or ideally) more ir beams
[16:25] <busla> only light sensors and magnets
[16:25] <tig|> busla: just use IR beams, easier to work with unless it is a huge distance
[16:25] <busla> yeah, blocking an IR beam would be great solution, and probably a cheap one
[16:25] <busla> the distance is just the door... 1 meter maybe
[16:25] <busla> ?
[16:25] <busla> just a standard door
[16:25] <tig|> have multiple beams then the order they are broken tells you the direction
[16:26] <busla> that was the idea
[16:26] <tig|> if the beams get broken 123 they are going in 321 they are going out and breaking 2 only means could be either but they are on a pogo stick
[16:27] <MrVector> Then you get some douche walking about swinging his arms like a gorilla as he walks
[16:27] <busla> right.. I just have to find cheap beams that have GIOP
[16:27] <MrVector> :)
[16:27] <busla> well
[16:27] <busla> ..
[16:28] <busla> that´s a problem
[16:28] <busla> :)
[16:28] <MrVector> Distance between beams + delay should take care of it
[16:28] <busla> I was thinking knees but then most of us have two legs.. that might mess up the counting
[16:28] <busla> true
[16:28] <tig|> if you do it at a low hight then you should only be picking up legs so divide total by two but then you run into issues with things like wheeled suitcases and people very long dresses, coats etc
[16:28] <busla> only allow one-legged people insideÐ
[16:28] <busla> ?
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[16:29] <tig|> for security reasons all personell will have to hop through this door
[16:31] <MrVector> Another idea would be to put a big red button just inside the door "Do NOT press"
[16:32] <MrVector> People are curious, everyone will press it!
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[16:36] <tig|> if it makes you feel any better even the expensive high security versions of this get things wrong
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[16:38] <tig|> a friend of mine was going in to a secure hosting environment and because he had a large bag on it mistook it as two people and locked him in the security door
[16:38] <MrVector> Haha!
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[16:39] <tig|> this is why usually the most reliable way is to use some form of single person physical barrier, ie a turnstyle or similar
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[16:39] <tig|> public transport gate etc
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[16:48] <MrVector> So the conclusion is you can not with simple cheap hardware count exactly how many people walk through a door
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[16:48] <MrVector> A camera with decent quality and some image processing should work though?
[16:50] <Vostok> "some image processing" :)
[16:50] <tig|> MrVector: how do you deal with children, luggage, wheelchairs, trollys, deliveries
[16:50] <Vostok> very optimistics
[16:51] <Vostok> -s
[16:51] <tig|> etc etc etc
[16:51] <tig|> people walking in groups
[16:51] <MrVector> Vostok heh...
[16:51] <MrVector> I've seen people do some amazing things with image parsing, I'm sure there's a way!
[16:51] <tig|> people with hats
[16:51] <Vostok> people of same color than the floor
[16:52] <tig|> people in long flowing clothing
[16:52] <nid0> there are plenty of ways, http://www.newtonsecurityinc.com/mantrap_system.html is an example of a fairly popular mantrap camera system
[16:52] <tig|> darleks
[16:52] <Vostok> invisible people
[16:53] <MrVector> There are no issues until there are
[16:53] <MrVector> And then you deal with it!
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[17:24] <SpeedEvil> In principle, FLIR might be somewhat easier.
[17:24] -NickServ- YattaBot!~yatta@static.130.149.9.176.clients.your-server.de has just authenticated as you (DataBot)
[17:25] <SpeedEvil> Or if you require everyone to go through naked but for a light coating of marmite.
[17:25] <SpeedEvil> - the DHS approach.
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[17:26] <SpeedEvil> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7ldYhzKAp4
[17:26] <SpeedEvil> DIY X-ray backscatter imaging system (airport body scanner)
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[17:27] <SpeedEvil> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDyo_OQFdAc
[17:27] <SpeedEvil> Microwave Handy Scanner - TSA Body Imaging at Home
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[17:30] <vfw> What audio player has the option to send to specific output? ( -o hdmi or something else...)
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[17:34] <SpeedEvil> Caedite eos. Novit enim Dominus qui sunt eius
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[17:43] <clever> smccarthy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dhp21FxttWM
[17:44] <clever> oops
[17:44] <clever> SpeedEvil: !
[17:44] <clever> Build a Radar from Satellite Dish Parts - Speed Radar Basics
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[17:44] <clever> jeri is making her own TSA body scanner
[17:44] <SpeedEvil> Jeri is somewhat awesome.
[17:44] <clever> yeah
[17:45] <SpeedEvil> As is ben.
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[17:46] <Demon_Jester> Hey everyone :)
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[17:47] <kwixson> rushing to get a presentation ready and I need help i couldn't find with quick google search. Composite video. Have booted this Pi on HDMI, now trying to bring it up on a TV, no signal. How do I get this to show up with composite out?
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[17:48] <SpeedEvil> The easy way is to reboot
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[17:49] <kwixson> SpeedEvil: done. no joy. next?
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[17:49] <SpeedEvil> oh
[17:49] <SpeedEvil> I dunno.
[17:49] <SpeedEvil> I'd try googling or something.
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[17:50] <vfw> kwixson: Must be an input menu on the TV. Right?
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[17:51] <vfw> kwixson: First, make sure you are plugged into the right port on the TV
[17:51] <kwixson> vfw: No. The video has coax in so I have an adapter hooked up. I've connected other composite video devices through adapter and confirmed it works.
[17:51] <vfw> Then look for the menu button on the TV, or on the TV's remote.
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[17:53] <vfw> I don't know about coax, I've used hdmi, composite, hdmi with vga converter and htmi with dvi adapter, but I've yet to use coax.
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[17:54] <vfw> If you connect to the coax port on the TV, I'm not sure what setting or channel you would have to set the tv for. I guess you find option for tv tuner and then search?
[17:55] <vfw> channel setup?
[17:55] <kwixson> vfw: shouldn't be any different than rca, since it's plugging into an rca->coax converter. I'm just wondering if it should detect the composite video or is it still trying to output to HDMI
[17:55] <vfw> You'd have to either know what frequency the PI transmits or tell the TV to search for it.
[17:56] <vfw> I don't know if it would be trying to transmit to HDMI, I think I've always just assumed it transmits through both all the time. I really don't know. That is a good question.
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[17:59] <vfw> But if it is coming to the TV on a coax input, the TV will need to either search for a frequency or be manually tuned to it.
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[17:59] <vfw> Right?
[18:00] <kwixson> vfw: Yeah. The TV is always tuned to that channel 'cause I have cable TV tuner box
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[18:03] <roxlu> hey!
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[18:04] <roxlu> I'm working on a library which grabs fromes from a logitech c920 which supports hardware h264. I want to stream the video directly to a flash media server. I got most things working nicely but ...
[18:04] <kwixson> Okay, here's something. I put in a fresh, unspoiled NOOBS chip and pressed number 4 on the keyboard, which specifies composite video, and it came up on the TV straight away.
[18:05] <roxlu> the playback of my video streams hangs so now and then and I'm trying to figure out why.
[18:05] <roxlu> Someone around who has experience with this and has some ideas?
[18:05] <kwixson> Thus...system is working. Now, back to my already installed copy of Raspian, how do I get it to either a.) auto detect HDMI vs. composite, or, b.) specify composite?
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[18:06] <tig|> kwixson: if the hdmi is connected at boot it uses it, if not it falls back to composite
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[18:07] <kwixson> tig|: Doesn't seem to be working that way.
[18:07] <kwixson> tig|: HDMI is not connected. No composite display.
[18:07] <tig|> kwixson: perhaps the noobs boot screen is before that point then :/
[18:08] <tig|> unless they are forcing hdmi in noobs
[18:08] <tig|> I have never used it, I always just use straight raspbian onto the card
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[18:11] <kwixson> tig|: Oh, no. NOOBs is working like that. It came up on composite. It's the install of Raspbian I can't get to display through composite.
[18:13] <tig|> oh, how odd
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[18:37] <Kake_Fisk> Is there a httpd.conf in raspbian apache?
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[18:38] <trelane> probably apache.conf check /etc/apache (since it's debian based)
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[18:38] <tig|> well.... it is apache2
[18:39] <tig|> so depending on what you want to do you might put it in various places
[18:39] <tig|> it isn't monolithic like apache1
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[18:39] <tig|> if it is a site create it as a new file under /etc/apache2/sites-available
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[18:40] <tig|> then enable it with a2ensite foo
[18:40] <tig|> where foo is the name of your file etc.
[18:40] <tig|> mods are the same
[18:40] <tig|> but mods-available and a2enmod
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[18:47] <plugwash> right, /etc/apache2/apache2.conf is the "master" configuration file
[18:47] <plugwash> but many other files are included from that one
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[18:54] <Kake_Fisk> I see
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[19:02] <clever> Kake_Fisk: if possible, i would use lighttpd, it wont require as much ram, so it would run better on the pi
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[19:03] <Kake_Fisk> I will consider that, thank you
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[19:36] <SKyd3R> Hello everyone
[19:37] <SKyd3R> I'm trying to follow this Wiki article but I'm getting some errors: http://wiki.osdev.org/ARM_RaspberryPi_Tutorial_C
[19:37] <clever> what kind of errors?
[19:37] <SKyd3R> /usr/local/cross/bin/../lib/gcc/arm-none-eabi/4.3.2/../../../../arm-none-eabi/include/stdint.h:118:5: error: "__have_long64" is not defined
[19:37] <SKyd3R> /usr/local/cross/bin/../lib/gcc/arm-none-eabi/4.3.2/../../../../arm-none-eabi/include/stdint.h:215:6: error: "__int_fast64_t_defined" is not defined
[19:37] <SKyd3R> /usr/local/cross/bin/../lib/gcc/arm-none-eabi/4.3.2/../../../../arm-none-eabi/include/stdint.h:303:5: error: "__have_long64" is not defined
[19:37] <SKyd3R> /usr/local/cross/bin/../lib/gcc/arm-none-eabi/4.3.2/../../../../arm-none-eabi/include/stdint.h:315:5: error: "__have_long64" is not defined
[19:38] <SKyd3R> I don't use that kind of variables on my code
[19:38] <clever> its internal things to tell the compiler what your cpu supports
[19:39] <clever> are you using the makefile from that page?
[19:39] <SKyd3R> I commented this lines:
[19:39] <SKyd3R> #WARNFLAGS += -Wno-pragmas -Wno-unused-but-set-parameter
[19:39] <SKyd3R> #WARNFLAGS += -Wno-unused-but-set-variable -Wno-unused-result
[19:40] <SKyd3R> because I was getting errors on them
[19:40] <SKyd3R> cc1: error: unrecognized command line option "-Wno-unused-but-set-parameter"
[19:40] <SKyd3R> cc1: error: unrecognized command line option "-Wno-unused-but-set-variable"
[19:40] <SKyd3R> cc1: error: unrecognized command line option "-Wno-unused-result"
[19:40] <clever> sounds like your not using the right compiler
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[19:43] <SKyd3R> do you have any idea of what compile should I use?
[19:44] <clever> how did you get /usr/local/cross/bin/arm-none-eabi ?
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[19:46] <SKyd3R> here: http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/projects/raspberrypi/tutorials/os/downloads.html
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[19:47] <SKyd3R> I think I will try with the code I found there as Lessons solutions
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[20:51] <f00bar80> any DSI LCD , can be easiliy connected to Rpi?
[20:52] <chithead> http://elinux.org/RPi_Screens#DSI_port
[20:52] <pksato> Yes, if you have access to GPU programing. :)
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[20:53] <chithead> connecting is easy, but making it work is not possible for normal users atm
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[20:55] <f00bar80> even this one http://www.4dsystems.com.au/product/5/35/Raspberry_Pi_Display_Modules/uLCD_24_PTU_PI/ , isn't directly connectable and compatible with Rpi?
[20:57] <chithead> "Utilises the Raspberry Pi's UART Serial Port."
[20:57] <chithead> this is not a dsi screen
[20:59] <f00bar80> chithead, i know , but i'm very confued ... on how to identify what's supported / compatible and connecteable , when it comes spec. to dislpays/screens
[20:59] <gordonDrogon> that's easy. There are NO DSI supported screens right now.
[20:59] <chithead> I think the wiki is pretty clear on the topic
[21:00] <gordonDrogon> you can connect a standard analog tv/monitor via the composite video connector (the yellow one) low resolution by todays standards, or any HDMI monitor/tv via the hdmi connector.
[21:01] <f00bar80> gordonDrogon, what if i want a protable display ?
[21:01] <gordonDrogon> there are some reasonably priced hdmi to vga adapters now too.
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[21:01] <gordonDrogon> f00bar80, get a car reversing monitor - 3.5" and connect to the composite video.
[21:01] <chithead> plenty of portable displays wizh composite or hdmi input exist
[21:02] <pksato> f00bar80: to make a tablet?
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[21:04] <pksato> for notebook, motorola lapdock (or similar)
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[21:04] <ShorTie> and if you hack the rear view monitor it will run off of 5v
[21:04] <f00bar80> gordonDrogon, can you point me to any of those car reversing 3.5 monitor
[21:05] <f00bar80> pksato, something like that yea
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[21:06] <steve_rox> they usually on ebay
[21:07] <steve_rox> and the hack is applyed to mine
[21:07] <pksato> https://wiki.openjdk.java.net/display/OpenJFX/DukePad
[21:07] <ShorTie> here is a 4.3" f00bar80 , http://www.amazon.com/Rearview-Monitor-screen-Backup-Camera/dp/B005CFLMNC/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1382641631&sr=8-1&keywords=4.3+rear+camera+monitor
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[21:08] <f00bar80> pksato, how much it this toy?
[21:08] <pksato> ?
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[21:09] <f00bar80> pksato, dukepad?
[21:10] <pksato> how much?
[21:10] <steve_rox> http://www.zen74792.zen.co.uk/images/P1060668._Ajpg.jpg
[21:10] <steve_rox> thats my rpi host
[21:10] <steve_rox> with the 3.5 lcd
[21:10] <pksato> asking for cost?
[21:10] <f00bar80> ShorTie, this is composite and can be directly connected to the yellow connector and works directly without programming or any extension/expansion?
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[21:11] <ShorTie> yup, plug-n-play
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[21:11] <ShorTie> with power pack, 9v or greater
[21:12] <steve_rox> 5v for mine
[21:12] <ShorTie> your a hacker though
[21:12] <steve_rox> iam?
[21:12] <f00bar80> ShorTie, can i run it on a 9V flat battery? also what option do i have if i want to run Rpi on a battery?
[21:13] <steve_rox> probly natively runs on 12v
[21:13] <ShorTie> na, your box looks nice
[21:13] <steve_rox> it does?
[21:13] <steve_rox> i was just makeing it up as i went along
[21:13] <steve_rox> then room got tighter and tighter
[21:14] <steve_rox> i have a rpi cam fitted to that now the pic dont show that
[21:14] <ShorTie> you mean like a 9v dry cell ??
[21:15] <steve_rox> im lost
[21:16] <ShorTie> he is asking about a 9v flat battery
[21:16] <gordonDrogon> My head torch takes 4.5v flat batterys..
[21:19] <f00bar80> ShorTie, yes
[21:19] <ShorTie> maybe for a minute or 2
[21:20] <ShorTie> if you want portable, you need to do the 5v hack to by pass the internal regulator
[21:20] <ShorTie> other wize your just wasting battery
[21:21] <gordonDrogon> there is no 5v internal regulator on the Pi..
[21:22] <ShorTie> rear view monitor 5v hack to by pass there internal regulator
[21:22] <gordonDrogon> ah.
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[21:26] <steve_rox> yea that 5v hack is great
[21:26] <steve_rox> get a spare usb cable you can use that to power it
[21:26] <steve_rox> cant power from rpi usb port*
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[21:30] <pksato> http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/5099
[21:30] <steve_rox> i had to add a cap into it tho since the inital power on can make rpi reboot
[21:31] <f00bar80> ShorTie, and what about the Rpi itself , can't get it running on a battery ?
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[21:32] <steve_rox> i can run mine on a large anker battery
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[21:33] <steve_rox> seemed a better solution than 8 AA batts
[21:33] <f00bar80> steve_rox, can you show me this battery on amazon ?
[21:34] <f00bar80> anybody knows if i can get this LCD connected and working on Rpi http://imgur.com/iMA3gZL
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[21:34] <steve_rox> http://www.amazon.co.uk/Anker-Ultra-high-density-Thunderbolt-Incredible-connectors/dp/B00D5T3QK4/ref=pd_luc_sbs_02_01_t_lh?ie=UTF8&psc=1
[21:34] <steve_rox> this is the battery
[21:35] <shiftplusone> f00bar80, nobody can figure out what that lcd is by that picture alone.
[21:35] <steve_rox> its unlikely that lcd is dooable
[21:35] <shiftplusone> well, maybe not nobody, but certainly not us mortals.
[21:35] <steve_rox> looks like some laptop thing
[21:36] <f00bar80> steve_rox, and how you're connecting it to Rpi?
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[21:36] <steve_rox> the battery?
[21:36] <f00bar80> steve_rox, yes
[21:36] <steve_rox> i connected it into the rpi usb
[21:36] <steve_rox> the "back power" thing
[21:38] <pksato> f00bar80: any bare LCD (or others) panels NOT work with RPi (or others). Need some circuit to make a propper interfacing.
[21:39] <steve_rox> one them converter board things that are very expensive
[21:39] <Jusii> I went the easy way, LCD panel + HDMI-LVDS adapter board
[21:39] <pksato> for interfacing on RPi have three options, CVBS (low res), HDMI and GPIO (slow),
[21:40] <pksato> GPIO need some software and hardware effort.
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[21:41] <steve_rox> that anker battery kicks butt
[21:42] <pksato> The linked LCD, like a LVDS panel. can buy module for it on ebay. Find some seler and ask about compatibity with these display. Need type code of display.
[21:43] <pksato> this seler have some modules+lcd kits http://www.ebay.com/usr/elecrealm
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[21:47] <steve_rox> think ill get one them IR rpi cams when they come out
[21:47] <steve_rox> night vision awesomeness
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[21:49] <clever> steve_rox: nice rpi in a box! :D
[21:49] <steve_rox> thanks :-)
[21:50] <steve_rox> trying to make it like a multi purpose case kinda
[21:50] <clever> http://img1.jpegbay.com/gallery/001211401/1_f.jpg
[21:50] <steve_rox> i havent found a neat way to make the gpio poke out yet
[21:51] <clever> steve_rox: this is the tv ive been using on my pi
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[21:51] <steve_rox> some composite thing?
[21:51] <clever> much larger case, no way it would fit in a project box like yours
[21:51] <clever> yeah
[21:51] <clever> audio and composite come in over a normal headphone jack
[21:51] <steve_rox> ah :-)
[21:52] <clever> the box on the left has 6 AA batteries
[21:52] <clever> and it can clip on the back of the display, to run it with no wires
[21:52] <steve_rox> almost looks like something off a camcorder
[21:52] <clever> the 'cover' can then be connected to that camera foot, and act as a stand
[21:52] <steve_rox> or some servalence thing
[21:52] <gordonDrogon> steve_rox, poke out what?
[21:52] <clever> i think it was a security camera
[21:52] <clever> it was in a box full of alarm system parts
[21:52] <steve_rox> a easy accessible way for gpio pins
[21:52] <clever> the whole box was $20
[21:52] <steve_rox> you got lucky
[21:53] <clever> steve_rox: ive got an idea, let me grab the links
[21:53] <gordonDrogon> steve_rox, wiringPi? the gpio command?
[21:53] <steve_rox> erm no?
[21:53] <steve_rox> when i use the gpio at the moment i have to unscrew the cover and have the wires come out that way
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[21:54] <gordonDrogon> steve_rox, ah, you're talking about a physical connection!
[21:54] <steve_rox> space is so tight inside i have to be carefull what i do to the case
[21:54] <clever> steve_rox: https://www.sparkfun.com/products/11489 https://www.sparkfun.com/products/11490
[21:54] <steve_rox> the case ive got it in does make it a bit tougher , its survived a few car crashes :-D
[21:55] <clever> run the ribbon from the pi, up to that connector
[21:55] <clever> and then have the connector mounted on a PCB, which is stuck on the outside of the project box
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[21:55] <steve_rox> interesting
[21:55] <clever> and as a bonus if you want, have this one stick out of the case, with the pcb on the inside, https://www.sparkfun.com/products/11765
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[21:55] <steve_rox> oh when i say car crashes i mean when i hotwired it into a very fast rc car
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[21:56] <clever> or 2 of the male connector on a single pcb
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[21:57] <steve_rox> have you got your rpi in any fancy case?
[21:58] <clever> steve_rox: this may also be interesting: http://learn.adafruit.com/adafruit-pi-cobbler-kit/
[21:58] <clever> mines just stuck in a sparkfun red box, with holes cut in it for the cables
[21:58] <clever> the cables hold it in the corner
[21:58] <clever> and ive got a cap touch controller hot-glued to the top of the box
[21:58] <steve_rox> ah :-P
[21:58] <clever> http://gallery.earthtools.ca/index.py/pi/captouch/WP_000145%20%282%29.jpg
[21:59] <clever> those buttons i drew on in pencil, act as a normal linux keyboard
[21:59] <clever> each one of them registers as a different keycode
[21:59] <steve_rox> i er used some hotglue in mine
[22:00] <steve_rox> it seems strong untill it has a sharp inpact
[22:00] <clever> i used hotglue, without a hotglue gun
[22:00] <steve_rox> same goes for superglue
[22:00] <steve_rox> yea its faster to heat it with a lighter :-D
[22:00] <clever> all i had was a stick of glue, and a paint stripper
[22:01] <clever> slice off a chunk of the stick, blast it with the paint stripper, slap a board down
[22:01] <steve_rox> only issue is it can be more dangerious
[22:01] <steve_rox> with it dripping everywhere and being very hot
[22:02] <clever> yeah, i have burnt a few fingers when using the gun before
[22:02] <steve_rox> faster to use a lighter tho
[22:02] <clever> yeah, the paint stripper took forever to melt it
[22:03] <clever> but isnt as likely to set the project on fire
[22:03] <steve_rox> hehe
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[22:04] <clever> i think the problem with most glue guns, is that it has no thermostat at all
[22:04] <clever> so they just stuff in a low wattage heater, that cant overheat it
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[22:04] <clever> but also has trouble getting it up to temp
[22:04] <steve_rox> then it continusly ooozes out of it without pressing trigger
[22:05] <clever> remeber what dave (from the eevblog) calls it?
[22:05] <steve_rox> errr ive seen some his vids
[22:05] <steve_rox> just not that one
[22:05] <clever> hot snot
[22:05] <steve_rox> :-D great
[22:06] <steve_rox> like sneezeing acid
[22:06] <clever> lol
[22:06] <steve_rox> that gets on ya it hurts like hell
[22:07] <steve_rox> ive just got to think of some new crazy idea for the rpi now
[22:07] <clever> hmmm, what was that chemical you reminded me of
[22:08] <steve_rox> no idea
[22:08] <steve_rox> i do have that alcahol gas sensor which im clueless how to make work heh
[22:09] <clever> if its anything like the sensors ive seen on sparkfun, it probly has a heater element and an analog output of some kind
[22:09] <steve_rox> yeah it does heat
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[22:09] <steve_rox> and it does have a digital out pin
[22:10] <steve_rox> i was unable to find any example code etc for it online , least for the rpi
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[22:10] <steve_rox> so im gonna leave it for a bit , i dont wanna risk damageing anything
[22:11] <clever> id start by just hooking up power and a volt meter
[22:11] <clever> and verify the outputs
[22:11] <steve_rox> im unsure how to verify the signal out
[22:11] <clever> if its over 3.3v, it will damage the pi
[22:12] <clever> if its anywhere between 0 and 3.3v, it wont work without an analog converter
[22:12] <steve_rox> i think its 5v
[22:12] <steve_rox> www.amazon.co.uk/SainSmart-10-1000ppm-Alcohol-Detector-Arduino/dp/B00E5X2VZA/ref=sr_1_fkmr3_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1380634987&sr=8-2-fkmr3&keywords=Alcohol+Detector+Sensor+digital+signal
[22:12] <steve_rox> one these
[22:13] <clever> it looks like one of the normal analog sensors with a analog to digital converter stuck on it
[22:14] <clever> * Pin Definition: AO-analog Output,DO-Digital Output,GND- Ground,VCC-Voltage To Current Converter
[22:14] <steve_rox> apparently the chip on it is some sort of voltage regulator so i dont know
[22:14] <clever> just slap some power on it, and see what voltage you get on the DO pin
[22:14] <steve_rox> i can probly put it on this pc psu 3.3 line
[22:15] <clever> steve_rox: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chlorine_trifluoride
[22:15] <steve_rox> i hear you have to run them like 24 hours to burn them in to get a accurate reading
[22:15] <clever> found it!
[22:15] <steve_rox> sounds sexy
[22:15] <steve_rox> whats it do?
[22:15] <clever> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chlorine_trifluoride#Rocket_propellant
[22:16] <clever> read the 2nd paragraph here
[22:16] <clever> hypergolic means it will auto-ignite when mixed
[22:16] <steve_rox> sounds fun to play with
[22:16] <clever> ' It is also hypergolic with such things as cloth, wood, and test engineers, not to mention asbestos, sand, and water'
[22:16] <clever> 'and water — with which it reacts explosively.'
[22:17] <steve_rox> crazy fun
[22:17] <clever> ' If, however, this coat is melted or scrubbed off, and has no chance to reform, the operator is confronted with the problem of coping with a metal-fluorine fire. For dealing with this situation, I have always recommended a good pair of running shoes."
[22:17] <steve_rox> that does make perfect sence
[22:17] <clever> i have a pdf file of a book this quote is from
[22:17] <clever> where is it...
[22:18] <steve_rox> gas sensor seems to have a smt LED on it , that should be handy
[22:18] <gordonDrogon> Ah, you're reading Derek Lowe's stuff..
[22:18] <gordonDrogon> In the Pipeline.
[22:19] <clever> gordonDrogon: thats what wikipedia says its from, but i dont remember anything about pipelines in the book or title
[22:19] <gordonDrogon> Start here: http://pipeline.corante.com/archives/things_i_wont_work_with/
[22:20] <clever> just remembered another random part, when they had to test the reaction between rat tails and rocket fuel
[22:20] <steve_rox> that does not sound good
[22:20] <gordonDrogon> http://pipeline.corante.com/archives/2008/02/26/sand_wont_save_you_this_time.php <-- is the article you want.
[22:20] <clever> gordonDrogon: i'm pretty sure it was a quote from a book i got half way thru
[22:21] <gordonDrogon> it's probably his book.
[22:21] <clever> i have it on my pc, somewhere
[22:21] <clever> Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on
[22:21] <clever> rob1:/media/videos/4tb 3.7T 1.4T 2.3T 37% /media/videos/4tb
[22:21] <clever> Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on
[22:21] <clever> sakura:/media/videos/15tb 1.4T 1.2T 197G 86% /media/videos/15tb
[22:21] <clever> /dev/sda1 73G 19G 55G 25% /
[22:21] <clever> somewhere.......
[22:21] <steve_rox> if i do put this sensor on the 3.3 line and put a multimeter over digital out what can i expect?
[22:22] <clever> steve_rox: it could be anything from a PWM of the analog signal, to a simple serial output
[22:22] <clever> 'I’ll let the late John Clark describe the stuff, since he had first-hand experience in attempts to use it as rocket fuel. From his out-of-print classic Ignition! we have:'
[22:22] <clever> gordonDrogon: doh, it says the book name right on the page you linked!
[22:22] <steve_rox> i only have a cheap multimeter , the ones that can kill ya with 240v testing
[22:22] <steve_rox> :-D
[22:22] <gordonDrogon> Ignition! :)
[22:23] <clever> /home/clever/Downloads/ignition.pdf
[22:23] <clever> bingo!
[22:23] <gordonDrogon> Although Derek Lowes blog makes excellent reading.
[22:23] <clever> and my pdf reader even remembers me being on page 104 of 233
[22:24] <clever> steve_rox: http://ext.earthtools.ca/download/ignition.pdf page 73
[22:24] <steve_rox> eh ?
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[22:25] <gordonDrogon> Explosions are definitely underappreciated as a mixing technique ...
[22:26] <clever> gordonDrogon: one oh shit moment, is when they had to test the result of a fuel spill on the deck of a ship
[22:26] <clever> and what happens if it catches fire
[22:26] <clever> a small test showed nothing, it just burned a bit
[22:26] <clever> then they scaled it up, kaboom
[22:26] <gordonDrogon> clever family channel...
[22:26] <steve_rox> guess they have to learn
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[22:27] <clever> gordonDrogon: sorry
[22:27] <clever> steve_rox: pretty much the entire book is how they learned about this stuff
[22:27] <gordonDrogon> the hard way.
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[22:27] <steve_rox> ppl only seem to learn or take notice when there are deaths
[22:27] <clever> gordonDrogon: what about that stuff they wanted to dump at the bottom of a bay?
[22:28] <clever> it left a stench on everything the smoke touched
[22:28] <steve_rox> like the fukushima disaster , no one cares right now but wait unill the mutations and death
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[22:28] <clever> steve_rox: something ive found interesting, those big radiation suits, do almost nothing at blocking the radiation
[22:29] <chithead> many old people volunteered for the clean-up precisely because they would not live to face the radiation consequences
[22:29] <steve_rox> well nothings perfect at blocking it
[22:29] <steve_rox> just slowing it
[22:29] <clever> steve_rox: the main purpose of the suit, isnt to block the radiation, but to keep the radioactive material from getting inside your body
[22:29] <clever> if you can keep it out, then your exposure stops when you leave the room
[22:29] <steve_rox> eather way that disaster is out of control
[22:30] <clever> and you can measure and limit the exposure
[22:30] <steve_rox> they say 6 years the south seas will be totally erradiated
[22:30] <clever> but if you inhale/eat any of the radioactive material, it will keep radiating you from the inside
[22:30] <clever> then your screwed :P
[22:31] <steve_rox> lucky im no where near the south west of the US
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[22:31] <clever> and i'm on the east coast of canada
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[22:32] <steve_rox> its bad how the media on tv etc does not report anything on it
[22:32] <clever> they are too busy reporting about some wrecking ball i keep hearing of
[22:32] <Tachyon`> they do appear to have been lying through their teeth about fukushima
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[22:32] <steve_rox> ah i dident hear about that one
[22:33] <steve_rox> yeah so it seems
[22:33] <Tachyon`> they were underestimating radiation release by more han an order of magnitude
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[22:33] <steve_rox> you seen the radiation prediction simulation map?
[22:34] <Tachyon`> no and I'm not sure I'd like to
[22:34] <clever> steve_rox: skip down to page 32 of the pdf, 'and finnaly he surpassed himself with something .... whose odor cant with all the resources of the english language even be dscribed...'
[22:34] <clever> lol
[22:34] <Tachyon`> although I can pretyt much imagnie what's theer
[22:34] <steve_rox> apparrently that simulation was based on less than whats going into the sea right now
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[22:34] <Tachyon`> grr
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[22:34] <Tachyon`> had this keyboard a month, I think it's going to be replaced, I just cannot get on with it
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[22:35] <steve_rox> takes some time to get used to a new keyboard
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[22:35] <clever> steve_rox: 'and they banished it to a hole in the ground another 200 yards farther out into the tule marshes'
[22:35] <Tachyon`> yes, but usually only a day or two, I think the size of the keys on this one are just slightly off
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[22:35] <clever> 'some months later, in the dead of night, they surreptitioulsly consigned it to the bottom of the san francisco bay'
[22:36] <steve_rox> they tryed their so called ice wall test the other day
[22:36] <steve_rox> i dont think they mentioned if the results were good or bad
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[22:37] <steve_rox> now they want to build new nuke reactors in the uk , oh joy
[22:38] <steve_rox> going greener with the glow of radioactivity
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[22:41] <steve_rox> brb mode i guess
[22:42] <Tachyon`> nothing wrong with nuclear power if used safely
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[22:42] <Tachyon`> and to suggest it's more dangerous than fossil fuels, well heh
[22:42] <clever> one fictional story ive been following lately, has the bad guys dumping nuclear waste in a city that had a nuclear meltdown
[22:43] <clever> thinking nobody would notice a little extra radiation in the city
[22:43] <Dagger2> I'm going to guess... Coppelion ;)
[22:43] <clever> Dagger2: bingo
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[22:49] <steve_rox> build a mini nuclear reactor with the rpi in control of it ;-)
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[23:23] <f00bar80> asking if the Rpi support any microSD ?? or should i buy the one bundeled with it?
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[23:27] <shiftplusone> depends on what you mean by 'support'
[23:28] <shiftplusone> there's no microsd slot, but the pi can read microsd cards just fine through the adapter they all come with anyway.
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