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IRC Log for 2013-11-01

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[16:17] * Set by ShiftPlusOne!~Shift@unaffiliated/shiftplusone on Sun Aug 04 19:59:52 CEST 2013
[16:17] <drag0nius> well mine is 2A xd
[16:17] <drag0nius> definitely not too weak
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[16:18] <Serus> I have no idea what the current adapter gives it
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[16:18] <Serus> it's an adapter that came with our samsung camera
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[16:24] <lingon> Serus: what is too weak?
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[16:24] <Serus> The adapter I used after the one from school died
[16:25] <Serus> it was the adapter of some bluetooth earphone thingy
[16:25] <Serus> brand: Jabra
[16:26] <drag0nius> how do i properly shut down rpi?
[16:26] <codinho> poweroff
[16:26] <codinho> command
[16:26] <drag0nius> "shutdown now" then whent it goes black with blinking cursor plug it out?
[16:27] <Serus> why are people telling me to use sudo shutdown -h now all over the internet?
[16:27] <Serus> I mean, the power is still on that way
[16:27] <drag0nius> hmm
[16:27] <drag0nius> looks like poweroff completely shuts it down
[16:28] <Serus> yeah
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[16:28] <Serus> isn't that the same as sudo shutdown -P now
[16:29] <drag0nius> i'm just using "shutdown now" on all other comps
[16:30] <codinho> I'm actually using sync + plug out the power cable
[16:32] <Jusii> shutdown will sync and remount fs in read-only mode, so it's safe to unplug after that
[16:33] <codinho> yes, but I'm calling sync and then just remove the power cable
[16:33] <codinho> its faster
[16:33] <Serus> I prefer something that completely shuts it down
[16:33] <Jusii> but not as safe
[16:33] <codinho> Serus, just use poweroff
[16:33] <Jusii> you should remount fs in ro also
[16:33] <codinho> Jusii, agree
[16:33] <Serus> oh the horror, when my adapter died I knew what horror would await me
[16:33] <codinho> Jusii, but its ok for me
[16:34] <Jusii> yeah
[16:34] <Serus> the horror called corrupt SD card
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[16:36] <Serus> so I enabled X11 forwarding in putty
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[16:36] <Serus> but it refuses to start anything with root privileges
[16:36] <Serus> do I need to setup an X authority file for that?
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[16:48] <Serus> does anybody have an idea?
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[16:55] <gordonDrogon> what are you trying to do?
[16:56] <Serus> something like sudo leafpad
[16:56] <Serus> PuTTY X11 proxy: wrong authorisation protocol attemptedleafpad: Cannot open display:
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[17:00] <D4CH_RPi> Is there a minepeon irc channel?
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[17:03] <codinho> guys who wants qt5 + gstreamer-1.x on rpi?
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[17:06] <Serus> hmm
[17:06] <Serus> I'm not sure about qt on the pi
[17:06] <Serus> qt takes up allot diskspace
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[17:08] <codinho> its the other question
[17:09] <gordonDrogon> Serus, sorry - got distracted - not sure why you want to run leafpad as root, however you need to enable root connections on the display you're sshing from.
[17:09] <gordonDrogon> usually something like: xhost +
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[17:15] <Serus> according to this tutorial I had to do chmod 555 ~/.Xauthority and then sudo cp /home/pi/.Xauthority /root
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[17:15] <Serus> and then it worked
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[17:39] <davor> how do I measure how much current my Pi is pulling?
[17:40] <davor> it seems hooking a multimeter to the 5v line doesn't work, the Pi can't boot properly in that case
[17:40] <gordonDrogon> davor, you need a multimter set to about a 1-amp range in-line with the 5v line.
[17:40] <gordonDrogon> make sure the meter is set to amps..
[17:42] <davor> my multimeter goes up to 200 mA range on one port, and up to 20 A on another one, without a fuse
[17:42] <davor> so I set it to 20A
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[17:43] <davor> it showed about 200 mA, occasionally jumped up to 400 mA
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[17:46] <davor> also, the status LED was a bit brighter, and a bit less bright at times
[17:47] <davor> I think my multimeter is to blame
[17:47] <karl-s> for what its worth, 200ma-400ma 'sounds' right for how much power a pi draws
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[17:51] <davor> I had a wifi card plugged in, it didn't manage to initialize it (the LED on the card didn't start flashing)
[17:52] <davor> I have to set up a console to check the boot messages
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[18:06] <droidude> hello everyone
[18:06] <droidude> I have a little problem with a new RPi model B
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[18:08] <droidude> I took one perfectly well working SD card from my own RPi B and took it to a brand new Pi from work. When I connect the power supply, the red power LED lights up, the green "ACT" LED lights up briefly and then only the red power LED remains. It does not boot. What might cause this?
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[18:13] <droidude> on elinux.org I found this: "Older images do not load boot code for revB boards with the Hynix chip. Use release 2013-02-09 (?) or later. (I observe a single blip on the green activity LED) "
[18:13] <droidude> may this be that exact issue?
[18:14] <pksato> yes.
[18:14] <pksato> always use updated firmware.
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[18:15] <droidude> okay, I will try to create a new image with the latest version. Thanks, everyone
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[18:42] <marx> Hey, does anyone know if there are any alternatives to the python library for the rpi LCD+Keypad kit?
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[18:55] <marx> :V
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[18:59] <liox_> hi
[19:00] <Sonny_Jim> Hello
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[19:02] <gordonDrogon> davor, sorry -was in the kitchen - you probably need to use a lower power Wi-Fi dongle or a powered hub.
[19:02] <liox_> I have no-ip with raspberry on wlan0 would when accessing no-ip domain redirect to eth0 raspberry to communicate with arduino ethernet shield anyone can help me I've tried several alternatives without success!
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[19:10] <kylethebaker> can anyone recommend a good 'getting started' article about the rpi? im looking to purchase one, i plan on using it headless over ssh via wifi. i'm just not sure what exactly i need to buy and what the setup process is like. this probably gets asked a bunch, i'm just looking for a good online resource
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[19:14] <davor> works beautifully without the multimeter in place though gordonDrogon
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[19:15] <a7x> hi, why is it so slow to download on the rpi?
[19:15] <a7x> i tried both SD card & USB pen
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[19:16] <a7x> hdparm showed over 20MB/s in writing on the sd card
[19:16] <marx> kylethebaker: have you checked out learn.adafruit.com?
[19:17] <marx> they have a pretty extensive section covering RPI projects/tutorials
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[19:17] <marx> I guess, specifically: http://learn.adafruit.com/category/raspberry-pi
[19:18] <kylethebaker> marx: thanks, ill check it out. i've been reading a few articles, trying to learn more about the different distros made specifically for the pi. it seems like raspbian is a popular one, though i'd prefer something more minimal
[19:19] <a7x> looks like i'm not the only one with this problem the rpi works @ 1Mbit/s
[19:19] <a7x> (even less)
[19:19] <a7x> i did try overclocking it but didn't help
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[19:21] <gordonDrogon> a7x, how are you downloading?
[19:21] <gordonDrogon> a7x, ssh (using encryption) isn't the fastest of ways, but wget is fairly speedy usually.
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[19:23] <johnc-> scp is pretty much the slowest way to copy a file as you could invent
[19:24] <gordonDrogon> only on the Pi - it can usually do wire-speed on most intel processors with the sse (etc) instructions to help with the encryption.
[19:25] <gordonDrogon> anothing thing with the Pi is the SD card - class 4's can be slow - not due to the (lack) of write speed, but due to the latency )-:
[19:25] <gordonDrogon> I now use quality class 6's from a reputable store, not dodgy ebay places...
[19:26] <a7x> gordonDrogon tried both wget and torrent
[19:26] <a7x> but it's weird, i'm trying with scp
[19:27] <a7x> and looks fast
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[19:27] <a7x> (with wget i tried downloading debian + a test iso from a speedtest server)
[19:27] <cumana> any idea why this interrupt handler (called on GPIO pin rising edge) gets stuck after 'clearPin' (turning OK LED on)? http://pastebin.com/Wu9tN4dh
[19:27] <Baylink> QUERY : Anyone have a pointer on an RPi case that has a rechargeable battery well built in?
[19:27] <Baylink> Preferably for some removable battery that's easy to get...
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[19:28] <gordonDrogon> a7x, I think the best you'll get with scp is about 2-3Mb/sec on the Pi )-:
[19:28] <gordonDrogon> cumana, what GPIO library are you using?
[19:29] <gordonDrogon> Baylink, I've not seen one ... intersting idea though!
[19:29] <marx> Baylink: that's a neat idea
[19:29] <cumana> gordonDrogon, I've written my own bare metal code (I used bts nick before). however, it's tested and works apart from that interrupt handler
[19:30] <clever> Baylink: while its not a case, these parts will do the job, https://www.sparkfun.com/wish_lists/66243
[19:31] <gordonDrogon> cumana, well if it's bare metal, then you're probably the best one to answer your own question ;-)
[19:31] <clever> the fuel guage is optional, but will let you measure the battery level
[19:31] <Baylink> Thanks for the pointer, clever; I'm a NOOB, and haven't sussed out the landscape yet.
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[19:32] <clever> Baylink: the charger/booster will generate 5v from a battery, and can charge it over micro-usb
[19:32] <clever> connect that 5v line to the 5v pin on the gpio header and the pi boots
[19:32] <clever> the 2000mAh battery lasts 4 hours with wifi going
[19:32] <Baylink> I was hoping there was *some* rechargeable LiIon pack that was stable enough for someone to have built a case around it...
[19:33] <clever> using the parts in my list, you could make exactly that
[19:33] <Baylink> I'm quite fond of the pack for the old PrimeCo QCP-1900 phone, but I think those are out too.
[19:33] <clever> you can get about 12 hours with wifi if you use the largest sparkfun battery
[19:33] <Baylink> So I could.
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[19:34] <Baylink> Portable NAT router with attached storage is on my project list. Seagate's wireless HD is moronic...
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[19:35] <a7x> removed the overclock, things look better
[19:36] <gordonDrogon> Baylink, the Pi isn't the best device for that - one USB interface and the ethernets/wi-fi/etc. all use it. it works, but somewhat sub-optimal...
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[19:39] <Phosie> If only I had $140...
[19:39] <Baylink> I know USB Wifi isn't the best throughput wise, but I'm not as concerned about that aspect, as I am protecting the storage from whichever LAN you happen to be visiting.
[19:40] <Phosie> Oh it includes a pi and case, can save some pennies without that :-)
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[19:52] <gordonDrogon> Hm. running apt-get update/upgrade on a Pi that I've not powered up for a few months. Not a wise move as its the only one close to a breadboard that I need to run some experiments on...
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[19:53] <Phosie> Taking forever?
[19:53] <gordonDrogon> it's somewhat slow, yes, but it is applying a few dozen updates by all accounts.
[19:54] <gordonDrogon> still- got to check a cake baking, so that'll use up some time..
[19:54] <Phosie> Send a slice my way!
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[19:55] <MicW> hi
[19:56] <Phosie> Hello
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[19:57] <MicW> i think about buying a dvb-s2 streaming box (tvheadend compatible) and use a raspberry as client to feed my tv with dvb-s2 streaming. should a rpi be fast enough? which software would you recommend?
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[19:57] <MicW> that box: http://www.hardwareluxx.de/community/f89/moi-dvb-s2-streaming-box-tvheadend-xbmc-967783.html
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[19:58] <Jusii> I've used xbmc for that
[19:58] <Jusii> openelec more precisely
[19:58] <gordonDrogon> cakes doing fine. Pi's updated too :)
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[19:59] <gordonDrogon> Phosie, it's a birthday cake for a friend...
[19:59] <Phosie> Aww :-(
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[19:59] <MicW> Jusii, can you configure it to start with tv when switched on? how fast will it boot up? is the pi always fast enough for decoding/displaying?
[20:00] <Phosie> I wanted to bake earlier but i have no cases.
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[20:01] <Jusii> pi can decode mpeg2 and h264 in hw
[20:01] <Jusii> in theory you could power pi from tv if it has usb-ports, but to make it reliable you'd need to get power from 2 usb ports
[20:02] <lingon> does your tv have two port?
[20:02] <Jusii> I had it running all the time
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[20:02] <Jusii> it uses about as much power that normal tv in standby
[20:02] <Jusii> mine has
[20:03] <Phosie> Not much need to turn off the pi
[20:03] <MicW> thats right. always on i good here
[20:03] <MicW> that also answers my other question ;)
[20:03] <Jusii> wow, it has actually 4 usb ports
[20:03] <Phosie> You're made me want to install xbmc again, lol
[20:04] <MicW> Jusii, do you run a dvb-s2 usb card directly on the pi?
[20:04] <gordonDrogon> Phosie, brioche & baguettes for the shop tomorrow :)
[20:04] <Phosie> Just need to find my memory stick
[20:04] <Jusii> MicW: actually no, I've vdr atom box for that
[20:05] <Jusii> and have been lazy, so I have another atom box for xbmc...
[20:05] <MicW> and you can do live tv with xmbc and vdr as backend?
[20:06] <Jusii> right
[20:06] <MicW> does this include things like recording controll and epg
[20:06] <Jusii> xbmc supports vdr as backend out-of-the-box
[20:06] <Jusii> yes
[20:06] <MicW> cool. it did not when i tried it last time (while ago)
[20:06] <lingon> http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B008ADFWL6/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A15TW43BF9Y9WW maybe you need one of these?
[20:06] <Jusii> even though I mostly do all timers with browser and keyword search timers
[20:07] <Jusii> yeah I tried it years ago and ditched it then, been using it like this like a year now
[20:07] <Jusii> works great
[20:08] <MicW> would you recommend vdr or tvheadend on the server side? (at the moment i have a full-blown server running and a sat cable. i passted the usb dvb-stick to a virtual machine there)
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[20:08] <komunista> Hi all
[20:08] <MicW> so i can try a bit around with this ;)
[20:08] <Jusii> can't really say, haven't tried tvheadend
[20:08] <Jusii> started using vdr about 10 years ago, there really wasn't any alternatives back then
[20:09] <komunista> please, I recently took into play the Nokia 5110 LCD & python
[20:09] <Jusii> with xbmc most of the vdr features aren't used anymore. Anything with decent web ui would suffice
[20:09] <komunista> I followed this http://www.bartbania.com/index.php/raspberry-pi-lcd-monitor-raspberry-pi/
[20:09] <Jusii> but as I said, vdr box has been running for years and it just works
[20:10] <MicW> Jusii, same to me. i stoppen use vdr when it came impossible to run good software only cams ^^
[20:11] <komunista> I prepared the own deb packages for WiringPi see pyWiringPi2, python's spidev and in article mentioned PCD8544 Python library
[20:11] <Jusii> I have newcs and sc plugin for that, don't know if they're decent
[20:11] <Jusii> but works for me
[20:11] <komunista> but something is wrong and I have no output on LCD
[20:11] <Jusii> or do you mean without card
[20:11] <MicW> ok, thanks for the info. first i download openelec and try it on an old laptop
[20:11] <gordonDrogon> komunista, I have a .deb for wiringPi almost ready to release myself...
[20:11] <MicW> need to order a pi next week ^^
[20:11] <Jusii> did that too years ago, but it came impossible then
[20:12] <komunista> gordonDrogon: it seems to no problem with WiringPi for now
[20:12] <Jusii> I have no idea if openelec ui is still laggy with pi, it was when openelec was initially ported
[20:12] <komunista> I don't know from where the problem is coming - the WiringPi seems to work OK
[20:13] <komunista> please, how I can to debug/check the SPI interface?
[20:13] <Jusii> but that's over an year ago
[20:13] <gordonDrogon> you can load the spi device modules with: gpio load spi to save fiddling with the blacklist stuff...
[20:13] <gordonDrogon> komunista, almost impossible without a logic analyser or good storage scope.
[20:14] <Jusii> MicW: for webui in vdr this is the best I think http://live.vdr-developer.org/en/screenshots.php
[20:14] <komunista> the SPI modules are loaded at RPi start and gpio utility shows the ALT5 for SPI pins
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[20:14] <Jusii> all you need
[20:14] <komunista> gordonDrogon: I have no these things
[20:14] <gordonDrogon> komunista, premissions? running as root?
[20:14] <komunista> gordonDrogon: I mean something simplest, as post command to LCD a check response or something similar
[20:15] <komunista> gordonDrogon: yes, as root
[20:15] <gordonDrogon> no idea - you'd need to write a little program I think to exchange some data with it..
[20:16] <komunista> I am not sure now, if the PCD8455 library or python spidev binding or LCD is bad :-(
[20:16] <gordonDrogon> it's not a display I've ever used I'm afraid...
[20:18] <komunista> I mean, my LCD is broken - I hav eno tested them ;-)
[20:18] <komunista> I found the mistake in PCDx library woth PWM backlight
[20:18] <gordonDrogon> yea, almost impossible to test at this point..
[20:18] <komunista> but my knowledge is not enough for SPI...
[20:18] <komunista> *with
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[20:20] <MicW> Jusii, thank you!
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[20:21] <komunista> gordonDrogon: please, where I can see your deb packages?
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[20:22] <gordonDrogon> komunista, you can't as I've not released them yet - however you won't gain anything over the current install method.
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[20:24] <komunista> gordonDrogon: I am long time Debian user and I always preferred to use the APT to maintain installed software - I have a lot of custom packages for this reason ;-)
[20:25] <komunista> the packaging system gives simple method to deal with updates and possible conflicts...
[20:27] <komunista> and with little experiences packaging adds only little another work (if software is good written)
[20:28] <gordonDrogon> komunista, I've been using Deboan for 18 years myself - I understand the concept.
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[20:28] <komunista> gordonDrogon: yes, I only 7 years
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[20:31] <gordonDrogon> Hm. I'm playing with an RGB LED on my Pi - according to the calcs it ought to be pulling 3 x 10mA, but it's only pulling 3 x 5ma.
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[20:32] <gordonDrogon> it's bright enough...
[20:32] <Che-Anarc> Anybody using a HDMI switch - having issues with 1080 cant seem to get higher resolutions to work in group 1 or 2 on monitor.
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[20:33] <komunista> gordonDrogon: don't matter, anyway thank for you help
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[20:58] <komunista> gordonDrogon: now I get some progress ;-)
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[20:58] <komunista> the pyWirinigPi2 is not working for me
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[20:59] <komunista> it can be mistake in my package
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[21:06] <xmatthias> god, 350 updates just coz i addded the testing-repo to the pi
[21:06] <xmatthias> is THAT really worth the waiting-time?
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[21:38] <Serus> I just set up an openvpn server on the pi
[21:38] <Serus> but I want to access the LAN network of the server
[21:38] <Serus> how would I set that up?
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[21:39] <sney> you want to give your vpn clients access to the network that the pi is on, you mean?
[21:39] <sney> that's just routing
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[21:52] <Che-Anarc> How to adjust / change kernel boot image?
[21:53] <sney> it's in the fat32 boot partition
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[21:53] <Che-Anarc> sney but which file / format? -
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[21:54] <sney> kernel.img is the actual kernel, mine is a zImage
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[21:57] <Che-Anarc> sney any idea how I can edit adjust it / do I have to remake kernel?
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[21:59] <sney> Che-Anarc: if you want a different kernel version or configuration from what's available, you do have to compile it from source
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[22:44] <faLUCE> hello, can you suggest a cheap I/O board that can be controlled by pi?
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[22:45] <rikkib> Check out the E14 web site
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[22:46] <faLUCE> rikkib: which one?
[22:47] <rikkib> Hmmm give me a me a minute
[22:47] <faLUCE> rikkib: thanks
[22:48] <SpeedEvil> faLUCE: search ebay for usb relay
[22:49] <faLUCE> SpeedEvil: I wonder if you know a _cheap_ one
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[22:50] <Phosie> Define cheap
[22:50] <faLUCE> Phosie: cheap means cheapest :-)
[22:52] <SpeedEvil> faLUCE: DEfine what you want.
[22:52] <SpeedEvil> For AC control, you don't want to go too cheap, or stuff catches fire.
[22:52] <faLUCE> SpeedEvil: you are right
[22:53] <rikkib> http://www.trademe.co.nz/a.aspx?id=655059730
[22:53] <faLUCE> but I wonder if pi website suggests an "official" one
[22:53] <rikkib> That may help you find it on the Element 14 web site
[22:54] <rikkib> PIO232 add-on board for Raspberry Pi,
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[22:54] <SpeedEvil> faLUCE: In general, such a board would be expensive and do more than what you need.
[22:54] <faLUCE> rikkib: this is cheap but not usb
[22:54] <SpeedEvil> faLUCE: Exactly what do you need it to do?
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[22:55] <faLUCE> SpeedEvil: for now, nothing. but, since I have done a home automation system, I would consider some I/O boards for the future
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[22:56] <faLUCE> rikkib: I don't understand if it needs a serial to usb adapter
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[22:57] <rikkib> It would need an adapter
[22:58] <faLUCE> rikkib: ok
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[23:18] <davor> finally. god help me if a wire gets pulled by accident though. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/12582342/IMG_20131101_231550.jpg
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[23:29] <piney0> picture = reassembly instructions
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[23:30] <davor> hah, I'll have to take a dozen to be able to make out what's what
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[23:32] <Serus> sney: how would I setup the routing?
[23:32] <Serus> from the config file?
[23:33] <karl-s> Look up "openvpn inject route"
[23:33] <karl-s> you need to configure such that when a client connects, a route is injected into the client routing table for the network that you wish to reach across the vpn
[23:34] <karl-s> That is... assuming you are not doing Ethernet bridging
[23:34] <Phosie> Pi won't boot *sigh*
[23:34] <applegekko> kick it
[23:34] <applegekko> that will give it a boot XD
[23:34] <Phosie> Heh
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[23:36] <Conceited> My pi has tons of problems booting.
[23:36] <Phosie> Fixed
[23:37] <Conceited> It's fine now, but for awhile it wouldn't show up on my TV that it was connected.
[23:37] <Phosie> Turns out raspbmc didn't link my config.txt, but i have no display with the default
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[23:40] <Serus> Phosie: do you have ssh enabled?
[23:40] <Serus> or do you want to use it like a desktop?
[23:41] <Phosie> If raspbmc has it enabled by default, yes
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[23:42] <Serus> wait, isn't that rdp? Or does the rdp just connect to that?
[23:42] <Phosie> I'll wait for the initial installation to complete then I'll edit the config, i just wanted to do it beforehand
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[23:44] <Serus> so I have a samba server setup and I added a share for my external harddrive which is formatted as FAT32. But I want to hide folders, what option do I need to add to the mount command for that to work?
[23:45] <SpeedEvil> hide folders?
[23:46] <karl-s> There's a few ways via samba
[23:46] <Che-Anarc> do I have an existing ../config file if I am using rasbarrian wheezy? - trying to build from source.
[23:46] <SpeedEvil> Configure your samba server to ignore them
[23:46] <karl-s> but since windows permissions are vastly different from linux, its tough
[23:46] <SpeedEvil> FAT32 has no concept of per-user permission that you could employ
[23:46] <karl-s> something like: "hide unreadable files = yes" may help
[23:46] <karl-s> nm SpeedEvil is correct
[23:46] <Serus> well I access the samba share in windows
[23:47] <SpeedEvil> Serus: Configure the samba server to ignore certain folders.
[23:47] <karl-s> I think the "hide files" option in samba may work
[23:47] <Serus> and I read something on google that you could make folders hidden by keeping windows flags in mind
[23:47] <karl-s> but thats only on linux partitions
[23:48] <karl-s> look here: http://www.samba.org/samba/docs/using_samba/ch08.html
[23:50] <Serus> I think I'm being unclear as usual
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[23:50] <Serus> ok when I acces the samba share on windows and I right click a folder and mark it as hidden
[23:51] <Serus> it will give me an error
[23:51] <Serus> I read something that you had to include something in the mount command
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[23:52] <Serus> for that to work
[23:52] <karl-s> I see. I havent heard of that issue before... I think fat32 should have attributes that allow hidden folders...
[23:52] <Serus> yes, but I can't set them, the current mount state doesn't allow me to do that
[23:52] <Serus> at least that's what I think
[23:53] <karl-s> "map hidden = yes" in samba.conf ? (i know, its not the mount table thing...)
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[23:56] <Serus> I think I have that in the config file already
[23:56] <Serus> let me check
[23:56] <karl-s> i was reading here but i'm not sure it applies: http://oreilly.com/catalog/samba/chapter/ch05.html#34062
[23:58] <Serus> too bad, that didn't work :(

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