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IRC Log for 2013-11-08

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[0:15] <christo_m> hello, has anyone noticed stuttering in xbmc with specific 1080p videos?
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[1:19] <jthomas_> Anyone familiar with the "Kernel Panic at boot" issue, trying to mount the wrong partition? http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=47286&start=25 Is there a real fix for this? Everything I try, the error comes back
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[1:20] <jthomas_> It pretty much makes the device unusable if it can't even boot
[1:21] <michael`> Hm, I can't install apache2 php5, it seems to be attempting to download a file that is no longer on the rasbian servers
[1:21] <michael`> well, multiple files, not just one
[1:21] <sney> michael`: apt-get update
[1:21] <sney> and try agian
[1:21] <michael`> had sudo apt-get upgrade and sudo apt-get update both multiple times
[1:21] <michael`> ran*
[1:22] <michael`> although one of thme gave me an error as well, lemme try again
[1:22] <sney> jthomas_: what kernel panic are you getting specifically
[1:22] <Triffid_Hunter> jthomas_: as far as I know it mounts whichever partition you told it to in your kernel command line in /boot/config.txt
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[1:23] <michael`> sudo apt-get update returns this: http://pastebin.com/R8pr3c2s
[1:24] <sney> michael`: delete the file it complained about at the end (/var/lib/apt/lists/partial..) and try again
[1:24] <jthomas_> sney Triffid_Hunter the error is that, at boot, sometimes all is well until suddenly it cannot find the second partition. Example, "Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(179,2) " Edit the cmdline.txt and change it to (179,6), and back to (179,2) and for some of my cards it boots (then gets sector errors), but on another card it won't boot at all
[1:25] <jthomas_> it seems to be common enough from google searches but I'm very surprised this is still an ongoing issue
[1:25] <sney> have you considered that your sd card is hooped
[1:25] <jthomas_> Using NOOBs and Raspi
[1:25] <sney> they don't have very good qa
[1:25] <christo_m> has anyone got dualshock working over bluetooth with xbmc
[1:25] <sney> I always keep spares
[1:25] <jthomas_> I have tried 3 cards, 2 are new.
[1:25] <christo_m> all i could find is the xbmc-ps3remote package, which is for the remote, not the controller
[1:26] <christo_m> ive edited the keymap xml to no avail
[1:26] <sney> christo_m: didn't people used to run linux on the ps3? I'd imagine there are some resources left over from then that could help
[1:26] <michael`> sney: seems to be working now, thanks
[1:26] <sney> michael`: np
[1:26] <jthomas_> it really hurts the credibility of the device and linux os when this error has a 2page thread about it and the only fix is to edit a txt file and it doesn't work for half the people on that thread
[1:27] <sney> oh don't start with that nonsense
[1:27] <sney> you don't get better support when you whine
[1:27] <jthomas_> man i am a huge fan of free software, open source, debian, and open hardware. and this is bullshit.
[1:28] <jthomas_> yeah true enough, i've just been hitting my head against this for hours
[1:28] <christo_m> sney: the controller pairs
[1:28] <christo_m> sney: its that xbmc does nothing with it..
[1:28] <sney> the cmdline.txt fix seems like useless voodoo tbh
[1:28] <christo_m> i can move the mouse around in the corner of the screen, thats it, none of my keypresses work
[1:28] <jthomas_> but it *doesn't* fix anythign for me
[1:28] <jthomas_> and half the posters there
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[1:29] <sney> yeah, useless voodoo like I said. they're basically just trying again
[1:29] <jthomas_> and why would it even be needed, to basically edit it back to what it was before the error popped up?
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[1:29] <jthomas_> can i install real Debian 7 from a USB CDRom?
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[1:29] <ozzzy> why would a software problem hurt the credibility of hardware
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[1:30] <Triffid_Hunter> jthomas_: tried a power supply rated for 2A?
[1:30] <jthomas_> yessir
[1:30] <Triffid_Hunter> sub-standard power supplies make the rpi misbehave quite terribly
[1:30] <sney> I wonder if you could get any results from mounting the sd card on another linux system, mounting the second partition loopback and doing a forcefsck on it
[1:30] <jthomas_> hardware is affected when the limited options for OS don't work for someone
[1:30] <ozzzy> no... hardware is hardware
[1:30] <jthomas_> I've mounted it on my linux to edit the files; i've run fsck (unmounted) against both partitions it made
[1:30] <Triffid_Hunter> jthomas_: fwiw my rpi is perfectly stable and happy, I run it from a 2.5A tablet charger and I got a 4G sony card from my local supermarket
[1:31] <jthomas_> ozzzy agreed but if it's not usable then it's nothing
[1:31] <Triffid_Hunter> jthomas_: I also upgraded the power wiring on the board, but only the 5v stuff
[1:31] <sney> also, debian wheezy armel *works* but it is super ultra mega slow due to no hardware float support... which is why raspbian even exists. it's a straight recompile, for the most part
[1:31] <ozzzy> jthomas_: that's not the hardware's fault
[1:31] <jthomas_> ozzzy agreed. so find a way to make it work without software?
[1:31] <ozzzy> mine works just fine
[1:32] <sney> also, this particular boot issue may be common enough to be googleable but that doesn't make it a widespread issue. I've never heard of it before today
[1:32] <jthomas_> that's great, so what's changing my card's functionality?
[1:32] <sney> are all your sd cards the same type/brand/etc?
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[1:32] <jthomas_> sney i understand that. it's on two RPis here with three SDcards, two are new.
[1:32] <jthomas_> nope
[1:33] <cbb2296> hey guys I have apache running on my pi now and want to access it from outside my network. I port forward 80 to my pi's internal ip and the port i have apache running one but it still doesnt work. what am i missing?
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[1:33] <Triffid_Hunter> cbb2296: many ISPs block incoming 25/80/few others
[1:34] <Triffid_Hunter> cbb2296: try a different port, one above 1024 first
[1:34] <jthomas_> is the firewall open to allow 80? usuallyforwarding and firewall are two seperate options
[1:34] <christo_m> sney: the issue is by default xbmc has no joystick support
[1:34] <christo_m> http://wiki.xbmc.org/index.php?title=Keymap#Sony_PlayStation_3_Sixaxis_Controller_Section
[1:34] <ziddey> anyone using a rpi as a pptpd server? i'm curious about max throughput. i have a friend with 100/100 internet and would like to hook the rpi up to it. would need to be able to sustain 4 10mbit sessions
[1:34] <christo_m> this thing requires you add it as a joystick with mac address in the name.. so how the hells that gonna work
[1:34] <cbb2296> I chose 80 because my work has all ports but 80 and 443 blocked. 8000 works fine but then I cant access it from work
[1:34] <cbb2296> what can I do?
[1:34] <christo_m> and yet, why is the mouse controllable in the corner, somehow xbmc is getting input..
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[1:34] <jthomas_> cbb2296 is the firewall open to allow 80? usuallyforwarding and firewall are two seperate options
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[1:35] <sney> christo_m: maybe someone has been working on support. go read changelogs
[1:35] <Triffid_Hunter> ziddey: heh no way, the rpi's ethernet chip is connected via usb on the board.. it's NOT fast
[1:35] <cbb2296> jthomas_ I'm fairly certain it is open
[1:35] <sney> ziddey: the pi's i/o is very limited. you might be able to get 1 session
[1:35] <jthomas_> cbb2296 run 'nmap _youripaddress_
[1:35] <jthomas_> '
[1:36] <ziddey> damn.
[1:36] <cbb2296> yup it's open
[1:36] <ziddey> i figured usb2's 480mbps would be enough for 100mbps ethernet with bandwidth to spare
[1:36] <jthomas_> then the forwarding doesn't seem right; on the pi can you run 'netstat -nlp |grep 80' and get Apache as a response?
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[1:37] <cbb2296> yup i get httpd as a response which is apache right?
[1:37] <ziddey> well i'm testing it locally right now. i seem to be able to get roughly 15/15 on a single pptp session. does this likely mean that i'll have an absolute best of 15mbps for all vpn sessions to share?
[1:37] <cbb2296> jthomas_ heres the full output: "netstat -nlp |grep 80 tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:80 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 461/httpd "
[1:38] <sney> jthomas_: have you run badblocks on any of those cards?
[1:38] <jthomas_> sney i can do that now.
[1:38] <ziddey> i'm a little surprised that pptpd is that intensive. i previously used the rpi as a 6in4 box and was able to manage 40mbps sustained
[1:38] <Triffid_Hunter> ziddey: usb throughput is severely curtailed by the latency.. the link might run at 480MBits but the protocol on top prevents you ever seeing that in practice
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[1:39] <cbb2296> if I forward port 80 on my router to another port it will it get blocked by my work's filter?
[1:40] <jthomas_> no, it should work, but it looks like your netstat command was fine
[1:40] <cbb2296> jthomas_ that's really strange then, still can't access it from my phone on 4g
[1:40] <jthomas_> badblocks is running, taking it's time but i gotta get away from this.
[1:40] <jthomas_> ok if no one has heard of this and the fixes aren't really doing anything, then my bricks are kinda useless and i'm now hesitant for future projects. this sucks, i had so much excitement and it's just been chipped away by this experience.
[1:41] <cbb2296> also on my phone I get a 502 bad gateway code when i try it on my phone
[1:41] <cbb2296> ignore the second on my phone.. oops
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[1:42] <jthomas_> i'll let this keep running; i gotta bounce. thanks all for the thoughts but i still don't have a working os to make my hardware useful.
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[1:43] <jthomas_> ok badblocks finished, no output.
[1:44] <jthomas_> on one of my 3 cards that don't function.
[1:44] <ziddey> thanks. anyone have a gander about the overload of using ssh for a socks proxy?
[1:45] <ziddey> if it's less intensive than pptpd say*
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[1:45] <sney> jthomas_: well, for another potential voodoo fix, try using the raspbian-ua-netinstall rather than a premade image
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[1:46] <cbb2296> can't find any info about this online... networking is not my strongsuit
[1:47] <sney> cbb2296: so you're running some kind of consumer router inside your work lan?
[1:47] <cbb2296> sney yup im using an apple airport extreme
[1:49] <sney> routing private networks within private networks can be kind of a weird thing
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[1:50] <sney> but with just the port forwarded, you should at least be able to punch in the router's "public" address in a browser and get the pi webserver
[1:50] <sney> from another system on the company lan, that is
[1:50] <cbb2296> sney thats what i was thinking so im confused by this all.
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[1:51] <cbb2296> sney I forward port 80 to mylocalpi'saddress:80 should i choose a different port to forward 80 to?
[1:51] <sney> no
[1:52] <cbb2296> sney I just keep getting a 502 bd gateway error when i try it on 4g outside my network
[1:52] <sney> also, your phone is probably the wrong client to use for testing, since even if it's on company wifi there's a very good chance that's on a different vlan from the wired connection your airport is plugged into
[1:53] <sney> yeah. your company network does not have a route to the private-within-private network you created. there's a good chance they want to avoid exactly what you're doing
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[1:53] <cbb2296> sney I'm at home right now so I'm just using the phone to test my port forwarding and it isnt working. I feel like I may have over complicated this
[1:54] <sney> so let's break it down:
[1:54] <sney> you want a webserver running on your pi on your work network to be accessible on the public internet.
[1:54] <sney> yes?
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[1:55] <cbb2296> well It's on my home network and I want to be able to access it at work or outside the network anywhere
[1:56] <sney> oh it's on your home network. the airport you mentioned earlier is just plugged into the internet then?
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[1:56] <sney> ziddey: try it and see
[1:56] <cbb2296> yes the airport is plugged into my modem with ethernet
[1:57] <cbb2296> I guess that is a little obvious that im using ethernet haha
[1:57] <sney> well earlier you told me it was on your work lan so anything is possible now
[1:58] <cbb2296> hahah true sorry for that confusion
[1:58] <sney> can you access the pi webserver from another computer on your home network?
[1:58] <cbb2296> yup that works fine
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[1:59] <cbb2296> also I meant that my work blocks all ports except 80 and 443 so I have to choose one of those in order to be able to access it from work
[1:59] <sney> http://ww2.cox.com/residential/support/internet/article.cox?articleId=cacf82f0-6407-11df-ccef-000000000000
[1:59] <sney> there's your answer
[1:59] <cbb2296> well shoot
[1:59] <cbb2296> you got me
[2:00] <cbb2296> sney if 80 is blocked by my isp and everything but 80 is blocked by my work what can I do? Will I have to use a socks proxy or somethign like that?
[2:01] <cbb2296> sney i suppose i could try 443 couldnt i?
[2:02] <cbb2296> alright thanks for all your help guys, gotta restart my router
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[2:03] <cbb2296> sney got it working... thank you so much
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[2:04] <sney> yeah, 443 is your answer there
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[2:38] <cbb2296> has anyone here ever installed owncloud?
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[2:43] <woodjrx> I haven't, as i'm new to raspberry pi, but there was an article i saw on it
[2:43] <woodjrx> http://blog.adityapatawari.com/2013/08/installing-owncloud-on-raspberrypi.html
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[2:58] <nid0> cbb2296: i've had owncloud running on my pi's
[2:58] <nid0> as have quite a few people
[2:58] <cbb2296> nid0 I'm installing it right now. Got a little hung up on installing the php modules but i think im out of the woods now
[2:58] <cbb2296> nid0 how do you like it?
[2:59] <shiftplusone> cbb2296, in my experience it was painfully slow, but some people (like nid0) disagree.
[2:59] <nid0> owncloud itself is fine, a pi is not the best device for it though unless you're expecting very low usage, its perfectly usable but isnt exactly blindingly quick
[3:00] <cbb2296> luckily itll just be a simple server that i can access some torrent files and whatnot on
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[3:01] <cbb2296> finally got to the conf screen after 3 days of teaching myself arch linux!
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[3:02] <shiftplusone> what's there to teach? If you're already familiar with debian, the only everyday difference is systemd and pacman.
[3:02] <shiftplusone> which certainly don't take 3 days to get the hang of D=
[3:04] <cbb2296> i wasnt familiar with linux at all really
[3:04] <shiftplusone> ah, fair enough
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[3:04] <cbb2296> but after installing like 3 programs i feel like a pro ;)
[3:04] <shiftplusone> arch is a great way to start learning how linux actually works (it doesn't hide things from you too much)
[3:05] <shiftplusone> and the arch wiki is awesome
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[3:05] <cbb2296> the arch wiki is a lofe saver
[3:05] <cbb2296> *life
[3:05] <woodjrx> sorry to break in on this (and I know, it's gotta get asked a million times), but is there a best distro for a n00b like me?
[3:05] <woodjrx> I liked the arch distro idea
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[3:05] <shiftplusone> woodjrx, rasbian is recommended for beginners.
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[3:05] <woodjrx> but everyone I talked to steered me away from it, because of its complexity
[3:05] <shiftplusone> *raspbian
[3:05] <nid0> if you want an easy ui, go for raspbian
[3:06] <woodjrx> That's what I figured (and am using right now)
[3:06] <nid0> if you're gonna be learning the command line though, then you'd be just as good with arch really
[3:06] <cbb2296> yeah arch doesnt have a gui built in
[3:06] <shiftplusone> neither does raspbian
[3:06] <cbb2296> does it really not?
[3:06] <cbb2296> i thought the startx command launched a gui?
[3:06] <woodjrx> Raspbian uses xwindows to run gnome2, right?
[3:06] <sney> it's not "built in" but the standard image includes it
[3:06] <shiftplusone> it just so happens that the foundation version of raspbian has X and a lot of other bloat pre-installed
[3:07] <cbb2296> oh okay
[3:07] <sney> it's lxde
[3:07] <woodjrx> Ah
[3:07] <shiftplusone> and on arch, you can install all the same software if you would like... the people who have made the arch image for the pi just didn't assume everybody will want that.
[3:08] <sney> right, and if you want a similar deal with raspbian, there's the ua-netinstall
[3:08] <sney> any proper linux distribution includes a package manager and a whole lot of choices. that's what's built in. everything else is what you do with it
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[3:09] <shiftplusone> yeah... so it really comes down to preference.
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[3:14] <woodjrx> Does anyone have any thoughts on adding a HW clock to the Pi? I've been toying with buying one (for the GPIO)
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[3:15] <nid0> theyre "easy" to make if you're up for a bit of soldering, if not the gpio ones you can buy for like £5 are a good bet
[3:16] <woodjrx> I don't really need one, but I like the idea of being able to have it keep time even if i take it somewhere without internet
[3:17] <woodjrx> ModMyPi probably a good bet?
[3:17] <woodjrx> (My soldering skills are far from... well, usefull)
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[3:19] <nid0> yeh, sure theirs will work fine
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[3:26] <cbb2296> oncloud is taking ages to set up my database omg
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[3:27] <cbb2296> thank god for netflix, otherwise these long waits would be hell
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[3:28] <woodjrx> i was going to cut my directtv and just use netflix... but my ISP just instituted caps on all plans
[3:28] <woodjrx> :-( But netflix is definitely awesome
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[3:28] <hmmwhatsthatdo> this thing makes me so god damn angry
[3:29] <cbb2296> woodjrx that is awful. I cancelled my cable and witht he saved money i doubled my internet speed
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[3:30] <cbb2296> and wow you guys weren't kidding when you said owncloud ran slow on the pi
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[3:31] <shiftplusone> there may be some fancy php accelerators you might be able to use
[3:31] <woodjrx> That's exactly what my brother did, and still came out ahead.
[3:32] <woodjrx> Owncloud is something similar to dropbox, right - only you run it yourself.
[3:32] <shiftplusone> a fair bit more than dropbox... in some ways less.
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[3:33] <shiftplusone> I am not sure there is version control by default, but it can also stream movies and music... you can also add other plugins in there, like urtorrent or whatnot
[3:33] <shiftplusone> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/175702/owncloud.png
[3:34] <woodjrx> Wow, quite a bit more
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[3:35] <happygilmoregent> does anyone know if you get the programmers kit what language it uses?
[3:35] <shiftplusone> sparkleshare is probably what comes closest to being an open source alternative to dropbox, but it's far from as good as dropbox.
[3:35] <shiftplusone> happygilmoregent, 'programmers kit'?
[3:35] <happygilmoregent> from MCMelectronics.com
[3:36] <shiftplusone> you can use whatever language you want
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[3:36] <cbb2296> I find it ironic that your screenshot of owncloud was hosted on dropbox
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[3:36] <shiftplusone> the "programmers kit" title is just marketing nonsense.
[3:37] <shiftplusone> cbb2296, heh
[3:37] <happygilmoregent> oh ok
[3:37] <happygilmoregent> so it has releases for the python etc?
[3:37] <shiftplusone> yessir
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[3:38] <happygilmoregent> is the package system ports from debian?
[3:38] <shiftplusone> raspbian is based on debian and recompiles everything for the pi
[3:38] <shiftplusone> so yes
[3:38] <shiftplusone> but there are other distros available as well
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[3:39] <happygilmoregent> ok
[3:40] <happygilmoregent> what's the arch for pi?
[3:40] <hmmwhatsthatdo> armv6
[3:40] <happygilmoregent> ok
[3:40] <cbb2296> theres a specific build for the rasp bi on their site
[3:40] <cbb2296> but yeah it's arm
[3:41] <cbb2296> obviously
[3:41] <hmmwhatsthatdo> it's probably arm11 or some other trash
[3:41] <shiftplusone> arm11==armv6
[3:41] <happygilmoregent> I was at hamfest and saw samsung chip
[3:41] <hmmwhatsthatdo> yep
[3:42] <cbb2296> there are so many cool owncloud apps
[3:42] <happygilmoregent> anyone know what adapter I need from vertex VX150 HT to mag mount?
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[3:44] <happygilmoregent> it's pretty cool
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[3:46] <woodjrx> depends on what the mag mount is
[3:46] <woodjrx> but probably SMA-BNC
[3:46] <happygilmoregent> is it just BNC to SMA?
[3:46] <happygilmoregent> ok
[3:46] <woodjrx> KC2JVE here
[3:46] <woodjrx> lol
[3:46] <happygilmoregent> KF5YJK here
[3:46] <woodjrx> I thought ham was a dying art!
[3:47] <happygilmoregent> it's not
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[3:47] <happygilmoregent> at least not according to my future father in law
[3:47] <woodjrx> Just got my general this past year
[3:47] <woodjrx> Thinking about going for my extra
[3:47] <happygilmoregent> working on my general but the ARRL book is confusing
[3:48] <happygilmoregent> stuck at 4-30 vacuum tubes
[3:48] <woodjrx> Really? It's probably the best one out there, though
[3:48] <happygilmoregent> and diodes wetc
[3:48] <woodjrx> oh, yeah... the tubes was the hardest part... i've never even seen one in my life
[3:48] <happygilmoregent> I saw plenty at hamfest
[3:49] <woodjrx> btw, http://hamexam.org
[3:49] <happygilmoregent> ok
[3:49] <woodjrx> Best site for seeing how you're doing
[3:49] <happygilmoregent> I passed technician aa9pw.com without a book
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[3:50] <woodjrx> I'll have to check that out
[3:50] <woodjrx> General tests aren't that much harder, just more specifics / math
[3:50] <happygilmoregent> yeah
[3:51] <woodjrx> Looking at the extra stuff... i'm almost sure you have be an engineer to figure it out
[3:51] <happygilmoregent> 1/2*pi*f*C
[3:52] <happygilmoregent> my future father in law is a hoarder not an engineer but can contact aliens with all his equip
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[3:53] <happygilmoregent> and has extra
[3:54] <happygilmoregent> got extra gordon west at hamfest
[3:55] <happygilmoregent> I mean the book
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[3:56] <happygilmoregent> I would really like to do some DXing but only have tech license and 10m band is very sensitive
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[3:59] <woodjrx> sorry, had to run for a min (on call for work)
[3:59] <woodjrx> Yeah, i like DXing... but it's a pain to get a good enough antenna to work a ways
[4:00] <happygilmoregent> yeah
[4:01] <woodjrx> trying to convince the wife to put up an 40m dipole is hard enough... she's definitely not going to let me put up an 80m
[4:01] <happygilmoregent> is there a chart or reference that tells you when the atmosphere is right for DXing?
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[4:02] <cbb2296> well shoot. Just installed a plugin for owncloud and now it doesnt work at all
[4:03] <woodjrx> Dunno, I use www.dxlabsuite.com
[4:03] <happygilmoregent> owncloud is an app for raspberry pi
[4:03] <woodjrx> For my QSL, logging, etc.
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[4:04] <woodjrx> It has all the info you need (it's great, it's free, and you can even control a bunch of different radios with it)
[4:05] <cbb2296> anyone ever hear of or use piwigo?
[4:05] <happygilmoregent> yeah I run gentoo linux
[4:05] <happygilmoregent> stinks that you can't run it natively
[4:06] <woodjrx> What's piwigo?
[4:08] <woodjrx> nvm, google is my friend
[4:08] <cbb2296> its kinda like flikr but open source and runs locally
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[4:10] <woodjrx> One of the coolest things about the pi... I can easily install a new os on one of many cards i have, and try it out easily
[4:10] <happygilmoregent> anyone know a DXlabesque application that runs on linux or raspian native?
[4:11] <happygilmoregent> is /usr/src/linux the default location for kernel source files?
[4:11] <cbb2296> woodjrx that is definitely one of the best parts. that and if I screw up too badly I can just format my sd card and start anew
[4:12] <nerdboy> erlang packages available for the open-embedded image if anyone cares...
[4:12] <happygilmoregent> does pi run on a ramdisk?
[4:13] <shiftplusone> happygilmoregent, not by default, no.
[4:13] <cbb2296> so my work blocks port 22. Can i easily ssh tunnel through 80 to my pi?
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[4:14] <happygilmoregent> probably could with proper firewall
[4:16] <cbb2296> would something like: ssh -D 80 -f -C -q -N user@myexternalip work?
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[4:16] <happygilmoregent> KF5YJK for identify
[4:17] <happygilmoregent> sorry being goofy
[4:18] <happygilmoregent> I really want a raspberry pi box if for no other reason then to play with
[4:19] <woodjrx> a pi itself, or a case for it? (BTW, they are just awesome to play with - currently on one)
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[4:22] <happygilmoregent> both
[4:25] <happygilmoregent> funny that there is a remastered Ubuntu for hams
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[4:25] <michael`> does anyone have a precompiled Node.js? compiling it on the pi will take hours x.x
[4:25] <cbb2296> im sure somebody is hosting a mirror
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[4:26] <cbb2296> wow i actually think you may need to compile it yourself...
[4:26] <cbb2296> but please share once you do ;)
[4:26] <michael`> I found this -> http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=34&t=24130
[4:26] <michael`> but both downloads are dead
[4:26] <michael`> :/
[4:27] <happygilmoregent> what does raspberry pi give you out of the box?
[4:27] <cbb2296> :(
[4:27] <michael`> happygilmoregent: a circuit board
[4:27] <cbb2296> happygilmoregent you get really nothing out of the box
[4:27] <happygilmoregent> is it solely CLI or does it give you a gui
[4:27] <michael`> you get nothing
[4:27] <happygilmoregent> ok
[4:27] <cbb2296> you can install any os on it. it comes with none
[4:27] <michael`> you have to install an OS on an sd card
[4:27] <michael`> unless you buy one of the "ready to go" packages
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[4:28] <cbb2296> which it doesnt sound like he needs to :)
[4:28] <happygilmoregent> if you install raspian does it start out solely as CLI?
[4:28] <cbb2296> yes but it includes a gui
[4:28] <michael`> ^
[4:28] <happygilmoregent> ok
[4:28] <michael`> that's what I'm in right now
[4:28] <happygilmoregent> cool
[4:28] <happygilmoregent> I'm in ChromeRC as an IRC for chrome
[4:29] <michael`> You can also setup ssh so once its up and running you don't need stuff plugged into it anymore
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[4:29] <cbb2296> yeah i always just ssh into my pis
[4:29] <michael`> mine is on my wall with only power running to it, and a wifi adapter
[4:29] <cbb2296> pretty sure raspian comes with ssh installed already
[4:29] <michael`> yeah
[4:29] <michael`> it does
[4:29] <happygilmoregent> what is the recommended swap partition?
[4:29] <cbb2296> i need to get my wifi adapter set up
[4:30] <michael`> man
[4:30] <michael`> I don't want to wait for node.js to compile
[4:30] <michael`> lol
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[4:30] <michael`> I wanted to get my tapchat server up and running tonight
[4:30] <cbb2296> i know that's gonna be brutal
[4:30] <michael`> maybe I'll just skip out on tapchat and do a regular znc
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[4:30] <cbb2296> thats a pretty cool project though
[4:30] <Phosie> Hi guys when I plug in a keyboard after boot my pi doesn't recognise it until i reboot, is there a command i can enter via ssh instead?
[4:30] <cbb2296> i want to see come cool node projects for the pi
[4:31] <michael`> cbb2296: you see the automated bar some college kid made recently?
[4:31] <happygilmoregent> modprobe keyboard driver
[4:31] <cbb2296> shouldnt you be able to restart just that serivice that drives the keyboard
[4:31] <cbb2296> michael` yeah that's awesome. i guess he used node?
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[4:31] <michael`> no idea I didn't read the tech specs to be honest
[4:32] <michael`> just saw it when I was browsing reddit earlier
[4:32] <happygilmoregent> automated bar? meaning it was used as a cash register or incorp pi into a bot
[4:32] <cbb2296> honestly im just proud that I got my apache set up properly :p
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[4:32] <michael`> yeah I got my apache running earlier, trying to get node and tapchat now >.<
[4:33] <michael`> I've had apache installed for weeks but I couldn't get into my router to forward the ports
[4:33] <cbb2296> the pi monitored the consumption of each type of alcohol or beer they had on tap
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[4:33] <michael`> my brother was the one that set up our router and he changed the admin pass and forgot it, so I had to keep guessing until I finally got in
[4:33] <cbb2296> me too actually hahaha port forwarding was so confusing for me
[4:33] <happygilmoregent> can you incorp hsmm-mesh or broadband-hamnet into PI
[4:34] <cbb2296> http://kb9mwr.blogspot.com/2013/08/hsmm-mesh-on-raspberry-pi.html
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[4:34] <cbb2296> looks like yes
[4:34] <cbb2296> but to be honest I've never done anything even remotely similar to that
[4:35] <michael`> help
[4:35] <cbb2296> anyone using their pi as a web proxy
[4:35] <michael`> starting the node compile
[4:35] <michael`> heeeere we go
[4:35] <Phosie> Why oh why does yahoo answers exist
[4:35] <cbb2296> good luck michael hahaha i'm gonna install transmission first and start compiling my own
[4:35] <happygilmoregent> can you distcc pis?
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[4:35] <happygilmoregent> PI's
[4:35] <michael`> cbb2296: transmission, the bittorrent client?
[4:36] <cbb2296> yup the web client for transmission is awesome
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[4:36] <cbb2296> i can torrent straight to my pi from anywhere in the world from my phone
[4:36] <michael`> damn you're gonna use your pi for torrents o.o
[4:36] <cbb2296> only the legal ones of course
[4:36] <michael`> of course
[4:36] <liskl> of course
[4:36] <michael`> I have a french box for all my legal torrent operations
[4:36] <happygilmoregent> legal torrents?
[4:37] <cbb2296> but yeah the pi makes a pretty cool little torrent box and samba server
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[4:37] <michael`> happygilmoregent: of course, we wouldn't talk about anything illegal here
[4:37] <michael`> silly
[4:37] <happygilmoregent> cbb2296 what OS are you running on your phone
[4:37] <Phosie> So... how would i restart the keyboard service as i have absolutely no idea what my driver is
[4:37] <michael`> android master race
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[4:38] <happygilmoregent> cd /etc/init.d
[4:38] <Phosie> Thank you
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[4:38] <cbb2296> that was weird not sure why i quit out
[4:38] <liskl> anyone doing any work with rpi's and home automation like controlling lights and or window blinds?
[4:38] <happygilmoregent> or /etc/rc.x to find the services and ./
[4:38] <cbb2296> but to anwer the question i run arch linux
[4:38] <michael`> wait... if I'm running commands in terminal via ssh, its gonna stop the process when I close ssh isn't it?
[4:38] <michael`> I should have isntalled screen first...
[4:39] <michael`> liskl: I've been looking into it but haven't done anything with it yet
[4:39] <happygilmoregent> not if you don't restart ssh
[4:39] <michael`> very cool concept
[4:39] <cbb2296> I tried arkOS which is essentially a flavor of arch with a focus on being a personal 'cloud' server but it was horribly buggy
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[4:40] <cbb2296> although the web interface was way cooler than the static html i made for this install of arch
[4:40] <happygilmoregent> when you compile the kernel are you compiling for embedded system?
[4:40] <liskl> micheal: i'm trying to figure out the best way to wind a cord like using a PWM motor or maybe some other way? any ideas?
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[4:42] <cbb2296> I know you all were worried but I fixed my owncloud :P
[4:42] <liskl> maybe it is more of a python question or amateur electronics question but still
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[4:43] <woodjrx> Congrats on the owncloud-fix
[4:44] <cbb2296> thanks woodjrx!
[4:47] <cbb2296> I literally set up transmission two days ago perfectly. and now i dont remember how I managed to do that...
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[4:50] <woodjrx> back in a few.
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[4:50] <nerdboy> happygilmoregent: assuming your pi is behind a router, it might be easiest just to port-forward port 80 on the router to the normal ssh port on the pi
[4:51] <nerdboy> then ssh to port 80
[4:52] <nerdboy> heh, if you're daring, you could reverse ssh tunnel to your work machine through the pi
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[4:53] <nerdboy> somebody needs new glasses...
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[5:14] <Phosie> Anyone managed to get quassel working on their pi? I can't add a user
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[5:31] <exo-squad> i have a really stupid about breadboards.
[5:33] <cbb2296> can I run transmission on the same port as apache?
[5:33] <cbb2296> probably not right>
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[5:34] <shiftplusone> exo-squad, I think you missed a there.
[5:34] <exo-squad> the 5 rows are connect together
[5:34] <exo-squad> so if i plug a chip into road E it will be connected on the same row to a?
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[5:35] <shiftplusone> not sure what you're asking. does this image help? http://www.robotroom.com/Solderless-Breadboards/Transparent-solderless-breadboard-showing-the-metal-strips-for-tie-points-underneath.jpg
[5:36] <exo-squad> yeah i think im doing it right, but im trying to not blow anything up.
[5:36] <exo-squad> :)
[5:36] <shiftplusone> If you're plugging in DIP chips, it's done like this http://cdn.instructables.com/FSP/P6A4/GT8ESL4N/FSPP6A4GT8ESL4N.LARGE.jpg
[5:37] <exo-squad> no, its a chip connect spi
[5:37] <Phosie> Anyone managed to get quassel working on their pi? I can't add a user
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[5:38] <exo-squad> i plugged the chip into the row, and then connected that row to the pins its suppose to be connected to
[5:41] <shiftplusone> yeah, that sounds about right.
[5:41] <shiftplusone> Phosie, got an error message for folks that might know more?
[5:42] <Phosie> Literally "unable to add user <username> I'm trying to do the initial setup
[5:43] <Phosie> This is using CLI
[5:43] <shiftplusone> tried asking in the quassel channel?
[5:43] <shiftplusone> assuming there is one
[5:44] <shiftplusone> could also try ftrace to see what it's trying to do exactly
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[5:44] <Phosie> Never thought of looking for a channel
[5:44] <Phosie> Turns out there is one, thanks
[5:44] <shiftplusone> good luck
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[5:45] <cbb2296> any ideas on how i can access port 9091 thorugh port 443 when i have 443 forwarded to 80 already?
[5:45] <clever> cbb2296: run a proxy on 443, ssh is one way to do it
[5:46] <cbb2296> like a socks proxy?
[5:46] <cbb2296> somehting like ssh -D 443:localhost:9091?
[5:46] <cbb2296> but then how would i access apache? it cant run through the same port can it?
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[5:56] <Phosie> I'll have to wait
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[6:02] <Jeebiss> anyone use their pi as a hotspot?
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[6:06] <cbb2296> is it possible to hyperlink to a port?
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[6:13] <Xark> cbb2296: A URL can specify a custom port, e.g. http://myserver.com:9091
[6:13] <cbb2296> doesnt seem like you can link to a port though
[6:13] <cbb2296> like you cant just do ahref=":9091"
[6:13] <Xark> cbb2296: Well, that link goes to a webserver on a specified port...
[6:14] <cbb2296> it doesnt though, it appends a :9091 after a leading slash
[6:14] <Xark> cbb2296: I think you can do basically that, but you need more than just a port.
[6:14] <cbb2296> yup thats what i ended up doing
[6:14] <cbb2296> just putting in the whole ip address
[6:16] <cbb2296> welp i found my problem
[6:16] <cbb2296> forgot to forward the port to 9091...
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[6:35] <cbb2296> can anyone help figure out why my transmission daemon doesnt seem to be reading my settings.json file?
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[10:32] <Pitel_IPEX> is there some cmdline utility for controling cec? so I could watch movie with my wife late night and do something like `omxplayer movie.mkv && turn_off_tv`
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[10:37] <mike_t> cec-client ?
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[11:55] <bosnjak> hi all
[11:56] <bosnjak> i am trying to run omxplayer
[11:56] <bosnjak> but getting nothing
[11:56] <bosnjak> and when i run "lxterminal -e omxplayer file.mp4" i get: lxterminal Gtk-WARNING: cannot open display:
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[11:56] <bosnjak> for DISPLAY=:0:0 and DISPLAY=:0 i get the same
[11:58] <Jusii> you have X running?
[11:59] <bosnjak> Jusii: no, omxplayer is terminal based player,
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[11:59] <Jusii> so why lxterminal -e ?
[11:59] <Jusii> isn't lxterminal graphical terminal?
[11:59] <bosnjak> hm
[11:59] <bosnjak> there's a point there
[11:59] <Jusii> try runninn omxplayer file.mp4
[11:59] <Jusii> :)
[12:00] <bosnjak> Jusii: but when i run "omplayer file.mp4", i get a short blank screen and then back to console
[12:00] <bosnjak> Jusii: but when i run "omplayer file.mp4", i get a short blank screen (with blinking _ )and then back to console
[12:00] <Jusii> lxterminal complains that it can't open a window
[12:00] <bosnjak> sorry for double post
[12:00] <Jusii> what resolution is that video?
[12:00] <bosnjak> second
[12:01] <Jusii> it it's 1080p you might run out of gpu mem, then increasing that to 128M will solve
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[12:01] <Jusii> if itäs
[12:01] <Jusii> argh, if it's
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[12:01] <Jusii> gpu_mem=128 in config.txt
[12:02] <bosnjak> erm, how do i check the resolution?
[12:02] <bosnjak> of a video file
[12:02] <Jusii> install mediainfo
[12:02] <Jusii> mediainfo file.mp4 will tell you
[12:02] <bosnjak> ok
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[12:04] <bosnjak> 480x360 or 480x266 or 640x360 - tried all, all the same
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[12:07] <mike_t> omxplayer -g file.mp4
[12:07] <mike_t> and cat omxplayer.log
[12:08] <bosnjak> second..
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[12:09] <bosnjak> is it possible that my sd card corrupted if i plugged a keyboard to an usb hub (powered)???
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[12:12] <ShorTie> any thing is posible, is the rPi also powered from the hub or other power supply ??
[12:12] <bosnjak> other ps
[12:13] <bosnjak> mayber both ps are poor
[12:13] <ShorTie> then i would think most likely not
[12:14] <bosnjak> :(
[12:14] <bosnjak> i think after pacman -Syu the filesystem is broke.. bah. im restoring a copy
[12:15] <ShorTie> i'm beginning to think these power supplies are rated at a absolute max, and not rms like they should be
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[12:16] <bosnjak> mike_t: ok, now i got omxplayer to work, video is fine, but no audio
[12:16] <bosnjak> mike_t: tried with -o hdmi, no audio still
[12:17] <sp4wnr0ot> ping #raspberrypi, Hi Guys, Someone here have been test qemu-system-arm to run raspberrypi + retropie ? Because I'm got this 'error' on my guest when try to execute 'emulationstation' (* failed to open vchiq instance)
[12:17] <mike_t> bosnjak, http://elinux.org/R-Pi_Troubleshooting#Sound
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[12:19] <bosnjak> mike_t: i can hear sound via aplay from standard audio output on my speakers.
[12:19] <bosnjak> mike_t: so i don't need hdmi for starters, but i can't hear sound from omxplayer the same way
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[12:22] <sp4wnr0ot> ping #raspberrypi, Hi Guys, Someone here have been test qemu-system-arm to run raspberrypi + retropie ? Because I'm got this 'error' on my guest when try to execute 'emulationstation' (* failed to open vchiq instance)
[12:22] <bosnjak> do i need to reboot after config.txt change?
[12:23] <mike_t> bosnjak, yes
[12:24] <clever> sp4wnr0ot: what are you trying to do?
[12:25] <bosnjak> mike_t: still no sound :(
[12:25] <sp4wnr0ot> clever, just test retropie first and then I'm gonna try to integrate with XBMC
[12:25] <clever> sp4wnr0ot: and what is retropie?
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[12:27] <sp4wnr0ot> clever, retropie is something like game emulator 'old school' (snes, gameboy, etc)
[12:27] <clever> ah
[12:27] <clever> and what does qemu have to do with things?
[12:28] <sp4wnr0ot> clever, but my problem is when i try to run retropie under the qemu (as virtual machine (paravirtualized))
[12:28] <clever> i dont believe qemu emulates the GPU
[12:28] <clever> and vchiq is to connect to the GPU
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[12:30] <sp4wnr0ot> clever, exactly ... when try to execute this things with qemu doesnt work, because that i'm search if is there some workaround to emulate that
[12:30] <clever> you cant emulate the GPU, the specs for that arent open
[12:30] <clever> your only option is to enable software rendering and do things without the gpu
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[12:37] <sp4wnr0ot> clever++ tks
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[12:39] <shiftplusone> to be fair, the specs don't need to be open, you'd just need to intercept the opengl calls
[12:39] <shiftplusone> (if you wanted to add gles support to qemu)
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[12:40] <shiftplusone> the gpu isn't open, but the APIs are and that should be enough.
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[12:41] <clever> shiftplusone: yeah, the userspace and kernel driver are open, so it might be possible to reproduce the api and make it function
[12:41] <clever> but it would be similar to wine, your poking a box with a stick blindfolded, and trying to reproduce its shape
[12:42] <shiftplusone> "ain't nobody got time for that" though
[12:42] <clever> you know how its currently being used, but not how every bit is supposed to work
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[12:42] <clever> that too
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[13:10] <bitnumus> Hi, could anyone here advise me on how much work/cost/time it would be roughly to get a decent mobile phone screen for example running on Pi ?
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[13:14] <ShorTie> a whole lot, you better get buzy googling for a screen size and type and go from there
[13:15] <ShorTie> or maybe just cruize thru the forum for some idea's
[13:15] <bitnumus> ShorTie, would anyone here be willing to code the drivers, is that a mammoth task?
[13:15] <bitnumus> what are we talking, $100? $1000? $10,000
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[13:16] <ReggieUK> you're probably asking in the wrong place
[13:16] <bitnumus> Its specifically for the Pi, so, where would be better to ask ?
[13:16] <ReggieUK> and teh wrong questions
[13:16] <ReggieUK> because this is a general chat channel, not a driver writing channel
[13:16] <bitnumus> ReggieUK, i have a LCD screen coming that has drivers i've found for the Pi
[13:17] <ReggieUK> the people here are mostly like yourself that are asking questions
[13:17] <bitnumus> hmm, i know there are some skilled people here, so if you don't mind hopefully someone will respond
[13:17] <ReggieUK> right, so you already know the answer to your question then?
[13:17] <ReggieUK> how much did the screen cost you?
[13:17] <bitnumus> screen cost is no the issue, the issues is the Pi has basically no drivers for this type of thing
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[13:18] <ReggieUK> but you said it has drivers too
[13:18] <bitnumus> i bought the screen based off the drivers avaiable
[13:18] <bitnumus> and its just not good enough
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[13:18] <ReggieUK> so get back to asking the right questions then :)
[13:18] <bitnumus> ideally i'd like to use a mobile screen like a nokia N8 as a quick example. but this connector/interface has no support on the Pi
[13:18] <ReggieUK> first thing is to actually decide on a resolution and screen
[13:18] <ReggieUK> and go from there
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[13:19] <ReggieUK> something like the n8 which doesn't have an interface on the pi is unlikely to be a good candidate
[13:19] <bitnumus> Ok, can anyone advise me on cost of having drivers coded for running a Nokia N8 screen on a raspberry pi ?
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[13:20] <ReggieUK> the short answer is no because no one has the DSI drivers for the raspberry pi
[13:21] <ReggieUK> :D
[13:21] <SpeedEvil> Well - the short answer is 'broadcom would be delighted to quote for the work'.
[13:21] <ReggieUK> or that
[13:21] <SpeedEvil> And probably around $50K
[13:21] <bitnumus> and my questioon was how much would this cost someone
[13:21] <bitnumus> SpeedEvil, thanks
[13:21] <bitnumus> got there in the end
[13:22] <SpeedEvil> I have no idea if this is something they'd even be interested in - I expect not.
[13:22] <ReggieUK> so there we have it
[13:22] <bitnumus> so what the hell is the point of that connector lol
[13:22] <ReggieUK> vague answers
[13:22] <bitnumus> ReggieUK, thats all i wanted, stop being a tool.
[13:23] <SpeedEvil> bitnumus: It was envisioned at one point that there would be a released display to go along with the Pi.
[13:23] <SpeedEvil> It's a great pity - a lot of really fun stuff could be done with an open DSI and CSI connector.
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[13:23] <SpeedEvil> Even if they were limited to only cameras and displays.
[13:25] <bitnumus> yea :(
[13:25] <bitnumus> i'm working on a small device that needs a screen
[13:25] <bitnumus> options are very limited
[13:25] <SpeedEvil> There are many small screens.
[13:26] <SpeedEvil> What are you wanting to use the screen for
[13:26] <bitnumus> yea i've got one on the way
[13:26] <bitnumus> i'm in the UK, ideally it needs to cost under 20gbp and be available and supported (driver wise etc)
[13:26] <SpeedEvil> Inches, minimum pixels.
[13:26] <bitnumus> it needs to display a QT app, and have good enough res for a QR code
[13:27] <bitnumus> i went with i think a 2.8"
[13:28] <bitnumus> LCD: 3"-6", resolution at least 320x240, Eink preferred, but LCD also works. Touch not needed.
[13:28] <ReggieUK> http://spritesmods.com/?art=rpi_arcade
[13:28] <ReggieUK> the screen is small but the principle is similar for a bigger one
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[13:29] <bitnumus> i've gone with this
[13:29] <bitnumus> 1 x 2.8" Touch Screen TFT LCD with SPI interface (HY28A-LCDB)
[13:30] <bitnumus> but i'm looking for better options thats all
[13:30] <ReggieUK> well, nyjtouch shop on ebay do lots of options for LCDs
[13:30] <ReggieUK> with vga, hdmi, lvds and composite connections
[13:31] <ReggieUK> bit more expensive than the £20 you want to spend
[13:31] <SpeedEvil> Composite even may work.
[13:31] <SpeedEvil> Also - QR code - 320*240 - really?
[13:31] <ReggieUK> you could in theory look at some of the friendlyArm range of LCDs
[13:31] <ReggieUK> although they don't have drivers, they're reasonable screen resolutions/sizes
[13:31] <ReggieUK> well, they do have drivers for other arm boards
[13:31] <ReggieUK> but not for the pi
[13:32] <bitnumus> SpeedEvil, at the time i looked into the wokrings of WR and the data i needed to include and it looks fine
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[13:32] <SpeedEvil> http://nexsci.caltech.edu/conferences/KeplerII/agenda.shtml
[13:32] <SpeedEvil> bitnumus: I mean - 128*128 should be plenty
[13:32] <SpeedEvil> err - weong link
[13:32] <SpeedEvil> http://gb.mouser.com/search/ProductDetail.aspx?qs=muFWWzTLGEIPdePNc1A/NQ==
[13:33] <SpeedEvil> This is an e-ink-like display in some ways with a nice serial interface and really low power
[13:33] <ReggieUK> now that would be useful
[13:33] <ReggieUK> ooooooooh
[13:33] <ReggieUK> ftdi
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[13:34] <ReggieUK> didn't they make a graphics chip?
[13:34] <bitnumus> thanks
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[13:34] <ReggieUK> http://www.ftdichip.com/EVE.htm
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[13:36] <bitnumus> SpeedEvil, what do you mean e-ink-like ?
[13:37] <ReggieUK> http://hackaday.com/2013/10/15/a-gpu-for-an-arduino/
[13:37] <ReggieUK> I'd say the eve was a really good solution dependign on costs
[13:38] <ReggieUK> 480x272 is up to psp original resolutions
[13:38] <ReggieUK> and 4.3-5" screens
[13:39] <SpeedEvil> bitnumus: It retains state with no power
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[13:39] <bitnumus> ah, we are after proper eink i think now due to QR scanning
[13:41] <SpeedEvil> If your scanner can't work with 17% reflectance, you need a new scanner.
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[13:41] <bitnumus> SpeedEvil, its not my scanner for a start
[13:41] <bitnumus> i can't control what phones people use
[13:41] <bitnumus> its just a better solution if its possible :)
[13:41] <SpeedEvil> Phones will all be able to read it.
[13:41] <SpeedEvil> 17% reflectance is quite a 'bright' grey
[13:45] <bitnumus> http://www.embeddedartists.com/products/displays/lcd_27_epaper.php
[13:47] <SpeedEvil> That's interesting - though is only marginally more reflective
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[13:48] <bitnumus> yes, but its great they they support the pi
[13:48] <bitnumus> Instructions: Epaper_RaspberryPi.pdf
[13:48] <bitnumus> Demo code: epaper_pi_130307.tar.gz
[13:48] <bitnumus> :)
[13:51] <SpeedEvil> They do seem to be really unusual. An e-paper vendor that will actually supply you displays. In ones even.
[13:51] <SpeedEvil> http://nexsci.caltech.edu/conferences/KeplerII/agenda.shtml
[13:51] <SpeedEvil> And only 8 quid for a tiddly one
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[13:54] <bitnumus> SpeedEvil, clipboard fail again
[13:54] <bitnumus> lol
[13:54] <SpeedEvil> doh
[13:54] <SpeedEvil> http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/EK014AS014/EK014AS014-ND/4437987
[13:55] <SpeedEvil> As an aside - the kepler presentations are fascinating.
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[13:56] <SpeedEvil> I'm waiting eagerly for Characterizing microlensing planets with Kepler
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[14:25] <whitening> Just got LTE running on Raspberry PI
[14:26] <whitening> pretty trivial with wvdial
[14:26] <whitening> 12d1:1506 works great on Debian/Fedora on pc and on raspberry i'm running raspbian
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[14:28] <pwillard> well, I guess if you need it... I still can't even see a reason for LTE.
[14:28] <pwillard> I suppose it makes you very portable... like a CAR Computer.
[14:29] <whitening> not only
[14:29] <whitening> a MIFI
[14:29] <whitening> with 150Mbps :)
[14:30] <pwillard> Ah true... didn't even think of that. silly me
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[14:33] <whitening> Well, you can offer mobile hosting device at low cost :D
[14:33] <whitening> running a lighttpd :D
[14:33] <pwillard> Nice idea. Though I prefer nginx personally.
[14:34] <pwillard> So, I've been away a while... is Java still a mess on RPI?
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[14:36] <whitening> well java is a mess by default on all platforms, it's a cross-mess
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[14:47] <rymate1234> pwillard: there's an oracle java in the repos now
[14:48] <rymate1234> it can handle 2 players + TNT on a minecraft server
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[14:49] <pwillard> Oh nice. last time I tried I fell into some big java potholes.
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[14:51] <FR^2> How do you keep track of your microSD cards? ;)
[14:51] <clever> the only time i ever tried minecraft, it COMPLETELY broke the keyboard
[14:52] <clever> if the mouse was inside minecraft, nothing worked, alt+tab, alt+f4, movement
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[14:52] <clever> if i click outside, it worked fine
[14:53] <whitening> i'm writing an interesting app for raspberry
[14:54] <pwillard> I label my SD cards with my brother P-Touch PT-2430-pc. It can make really small lettering for labels.
[14:54] <whitening> it's a standalone webserver for playing youtube videos the idea is to be able to control it from your iphone,galaxytab or from your pc's browser
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[14:54] <clever> whitening: ps3 and chromecast can already do that
[14:55] <clever> and my ISP made a crappy version in the cable box, it cant even rewind
[14:55] <whitening> clever: i really don't like any solution out there
[14:55] <whitening> they really suck a lot
[14:55] <pwillard> Nice. I want a way to just play Youtube video's on my TV
[14:55] <clever> whitening: how so?
[14:55] <whitening> the only solution i found usable for my experience is whitey known as pi-yt
[14:56] <whitening> but it's far from easy for newbies and no thumbnails is not a deal
[14:56] <whitening> also i might implement some controlling from the RemoteControl
[14:56] <whitening> using libcec-daemon
[14:56] <clever> whitening: http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/R-TFRnVyjso/mqdefault.jpg vs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-TFRnVyjso
[14:56] <clever> whitening: took less then 30 seconds to find the url for thumbnail images
[14:57] <clever> and the ps3 does have some limited control over cec
[14:57] <clever> but the ui is a bit weird, left/right skip entire videos
[14:58] <whitening> fuck sony.
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[14:58] <whitening> i was thinking about caching videos
[14:58] <whitening> once viewed... well cache it!
[14:58] <clever> sony is atleast better then microsoft
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[14:58] <whitening> yes i agree i have a ps3
[14:58] <whitening> xbox sucks much more than ps3
[14:58] <clever> the microsoft version of that junk cant fastforward or rewind
[14:58] <clever> it only works on a single ipad app
[14:58] <clever> it has no integration with the youtube app, on any device
[14:59] <whitening> the original youtube mobile app
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[14:59] <clever> and if you turn the ipad off mid video, it crashes
[14:59] <whitening> is really rock sucking app
[14:59] <whitening> my idea is for something innovative
[14:59] <whitening> to change the idea of how you control your home media
[14:59] <whitening> from everywhere in real time
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[15:07] <clever> bbl
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[15:09] <RaTTuS|BIG> http://www.element14.com/community/community/raspberry-pi/raspberry-pi-accessories/wolfson_pi?CMP=SOM-TW-FN-WOLFSON
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[16:02] <Davespice> Steve Wozniak just name dropped the Raspberry Pi on BBC Click apparently...
[16:03] <Bozza> he name dropped it?
[16:03] <Bozza> he mentioned it ?
[16:03] <Bozza> what did he do??? tell us Davespice!!!! haha
[16:04] <Davespice> he name dropped and spoke for a minute or so on how good it is for getting young people into programming
[16:04] <Davespice> also named dropped Arduino mind... :)
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[16:31] <MProg> _o/
[16:31] <Phosie> \o
[16:33] <nerdboy> there might actually be some truth in the "torture" comment
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[16:34] <nerdboy> it does bug me a little to have machines sitting idle...
[16:34] <nerdboy> anyway, off to the salt mines
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[16:47] <Nefarious___> is there an easy way to execute a command upon boot? I need a python (continuous script) to start
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[16:49] <Nefarious___> sorry :3
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[16:49] <nerdboy> damn, wrong channel fail
[16:50] <nerdboy> Nefarious___: sure, there are several ways, depending on the distro/OS you're running
[16:50] <Nefarious___> raspbian latest
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[16:51] <nerdboy> if raspbian, they should have some sort of rc.local script you could put it in
[16:51] <nerdboy> anyway, the salt mines beckon, so ask again later if you still need help
[16:53] <Nefarious___> cheers :)
[16:54] <Nefarious___> if it makes a difference, I can't run it as root.
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[16:56] <mcsim> hi. I have raspberry rev B with u-boot that boot my kernel (not linux). Also I have connected lcd to rpi. When I turn pi on lcd is looks switched off (led on lcd is red). When u-boot starts display turns on (and led on it turns green). But sometimes lcd does not turn on during u-boot start and it stays turned off. I still receive hotplug interrupts from hdmi and I'm able to read EDID data, but There is no picture.
[16:56] <mcsim> Do you have any idea if it is bug in u-boot? Or something else?
[16:56] <mcsim> And can I still turn lcd on afterwards?
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[17:07] <Davespice> anyone here using a DS18B20 temp sensor?
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[17:09] <sheikpunk> hello guys?! can i connect any usb hub to increase usb ports in a raspberry pi modB?
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[17:09] <SpeedEvil> sheikpunk: yes
[17:10] <SpeedEvil> sheikpunk: powered hub is greatly preferred
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[17:11] <sheikpunk> SpeedEvil: with a power hub i dont need use a power cable directly on my raspberry?
[17:11] <SpeedEvil> It is a hub with an extra power supply that plugs into the wall.
[17:12] <sheikpunk> SpeedEvil: i see... do you known any suggestion for me?
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[17:14] <sheikpunk> SpeedEvil: i mean any hub link suggestion... maybe dealextreme?
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[17:16] <bosnjak> hi all
[17:16] <bosnjak> i need help still
[17:16] <bosnjak> there is no sound with omxplayer. video plays, sound not
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[17:20] <SpeedEvil> sheikpunk: where do you live
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[17:30] <sheikpunk> SpeedEvil: Brazil
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[17:36] <SpeedEvil> sheikpunk: No idea of the best place to look then
[17:36] <sheikpunk> SpeedEvil: no problem
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[17:46] <f00bar80> Anybody can suggest how do I connect this LCD http://store.fut-electronics.com/SLD63245P-1.html to rPi ?
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[17:50] <SpeedEvil> http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/EK014AS014/EK014AS014-ND/4437987
[17:50] <SpeedEvil> http://www.raspihub.com/go/b4ee8923e5374e0ba30f099ebd88b796fceef5b983f345fa4d13ee3ddc8ca799 err
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[17:53] <bosnjak> to output sound to hdmi, can i use a cable that is hdmi->dvi? would it work=
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[17:56] <f00bar80> SpeedEvil, it's connecting through 16bit parallel bus interface
[17:56] <SpeedEvil> It's the chip
[17:56] <SpeedEvil> You look up the controller chip, and see how to drive that.
[17:56] <SpeedEvil> Not your individual display
[17:57] <SpeedEvil> Though that of course defines the pinout
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[18:01] <f00bar80> SpeedEvil, you don't know of any same size screen that supports HDMI or RCA ?
[18:01] <SpeedEvil> HDMI - no.
[18:01] <SpeedEvil> RCA - there are thousands.
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[18:03] <SpeedEvil> http://dx.com/p/et-430-4-3-tft-lcd-digital-monitor-for-vehicle-parking-reverse-camera-ntsc-pal-12v-dc-47973
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[18:08] <torkelatgenet> Anybody successfully follow this guide? http://elinux.org/RPi_Serial_Connection#Network_connection_with_the_point-to-point_protocol_.28ppp.29
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[18:17] <SpeedEvil> torkelatgenet: hundreds of millions
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[18:18] <SpeedEvil> ppp is pretty ubiqutous.
[18:19] <torkelatgenet> Ok, hold on ill tell you my problem
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[18:23] <torkelatgenet> pppd: The remote system is required to authenticate itself
[18:23] <torkelatgenet> pppd: but I couldn't find any suitable secret (password) for it to use to do so.
[18:24] <SpeedEvil> What are you trying to use it to do
[18:24] <torkelatgenet> Get networking over serial connection, use ftp/telnet/http
[18:24] <f00bar80> SpeedEvil, can i use something like this cable http://dx.com/p/hdmi-male-to-3-rca-male-component-cable-black-201260 with Rpi ?
[18:24] <torkelatgenet> instead of only a serial console
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[18:48] <bosnjak> seems omxplayer doesn't support USB audio cards, or ALSA for that matter :(
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[18:48] <bosnjak> any alternatives i can use with my USB audio card, that has GPU support?
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[21:42] <ThiefMaster> hrm, i have two usb audio devices (a cheap-ass usb soundcard and a creative usb headset).. the former works perfectly fine but on the headset (which uses the usb audio class, too) i just hear a pop sound when playback starts/stops but no actual sound
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[21:42] <ThiefMaster> no idea if it's actually a problem with the pi or the device on linux in general, but before i get a linux livecd to test it on a proper pc i guessed asking here couldn't hurt.. maybe someone had a similar problem
[21:44] <sney> some usb devices need more power than the pi can provide
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[21:47] <ThiefMaster> sney: i checked with an amperemeter and it uses ~50mA (~60mA when it's supposed to transmit audio)
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[22:09] <Kubius> hello
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[22:10] <Kubius> I am having a problem with raspbian - I installed a fresh distro and updated firmware and raspi-config comes up with an error when I try to configure memory split
[22:10] <atouk> what error
[22:11] <Kubius> "there was an error running option A3 Memory Split"
[22:11] <Kubius> no further detail
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[22:11] <atouk> what are you entering in as teh split
[22:11] <Kubius> I can't get into the split option
[22:11] <Kubius> that
[22:12] <Kubius> error message is what I got when I tried to select memory split
[22:12] <Kubius> from the raspi-config menu
[22:12] <Kubius> (as in: select the memory split choice menu)
[22:12] <atouk> run it as sudo
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[22:13] <Kubius> I did
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[22:14] <atouk> then i'm out of suggestions. ask in #raspbian
[22:15] <Kubius> alright
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[22:19] <Kubius> I think I MAY have found the problem
[22:19] <Kubius> I did apt-get update but not apt-get upgrade on raspi-config
[22:19] <taza> ... apt-get dist-upgrade
[22:20] <Kubius> it's strange because I thought this was a new distro but apparently not
[22:20] <Kubius> ah well
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[22:20] <Kubius> not unfixable, not by a long shot
[22:20] <Kubius> as you can likely tell I'm new to this
[22:21] <Kubius> I assume you get a lot of newbies in here
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[22:25] <[SLB]> upgrade is usually enough, depending what you want to do
[22:26] <[SLB]> for example since a while i'm avoiding dist-upgrade because it wants to download like 100mb of further stuff for lxde and gnome themes
[22:26] <[SLB]> :S
[22:26] <Kubius> and the question is why do you want a themed gnome
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[22:28] <[SLB]> indeed, i don't want it, but for new dependencies of some lxde update
[22:28] <[SLB]> icons and themes i suppose
[22:29] <Kubius> I can see why themes would be nice
[22:29] <Kubius> but they really should be packaged in a separate DL from the main dist upgrade
[22:29] <[SLB]> i rarely start x though eheh, current lxde works fine nonetheless :)
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[22:30] <Kubius> I'm a newbie, I like having a desktop :D
[22:30] <[SLB]> i don't remember whether i installed it separately or not, it was long ago
[22:30] <[SLB]> yup eheh
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[22:30] <[SLB]> not just for newbies :) it may well be needed for other purposes eheh
[22:32] <Kubius> the raspi would be a good postapocalyptic general purpose computer
[22:32] <Kubius> low power consumption
[22:33] <Kubius> especially model A
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[22:35] <Kubius> do you use the raspi for a main computer?
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[22:38] <[SLB]> nop for some services, like vpn, bnc for irc, mirror for my website and probably some other things i'm forgetting now
[22:38] <[SLB]> other than playing with the gpio stuff
[22:38] <Kubius> heh
[22:38] <Kubius> the one thing I've done with gpio
[22:38] <Kubius> is made a light turn on
[22:38] <Kubius> off of the 3.3v
[22:39] <[SLB]> that's a beginning :) there are a lot of tutorials out there now
[22:39] <Kubius> ok here's a silly question
[22:39] <Kubius> how do I run a python script I have sitting in a plain file
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[22:41] <[SLB]> does it start with #!/bin/python or equivalent?
[22:41] <Kubius> basically I just create a simple file right on the desktop
[22:41] <Kubius> enter some python dode
[22:41] <Kubius> how do I execute that
[22:42] <Kubius> where do I move it to execute it
[22:42] <Kubius> etc
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[22:43] <ThiefMaster> hrm, just tested the headset on my laptop with an ubuntu livecd and there it works. weird.
[22:43] <ThiefMaster> measured the current there, too, and it also goes up to ~70mA - so i guess it's not a power issue that it doesn't work on the pi...
[22:44] <[SLB]> you can make it executable with chmod +x and run it with python <namefile> i'm not sure about the graphic way
[22:44] <[SLB]> maybe thru the ide provided
[22:45] <Kubius> a weird thing:
[22:45] <Kubius> I couldn't get the LED I used to light up until I connected the grounding end to all four ground pins
[22:46] <Kubius> one dude said it was due to the way the PCB was made
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[22:48] <Kubius> ThiefMaster how
[22:49] <Kubius> much power does your raspi PSU have
[22:49] <Kubius> in mA
[22:49] <Kubius> an ordinary 700mA phone charger will not be good
[22:50] <Kubius> they can vary by (read: drop by) up to 70mA in power output
[22:50] <Kubius> your pi can go really weird
[22:51] <Kubius> ah hell raspi config still isn't working I still can't configure mem split
[22:51] <[SLB]> you can do it by hand if you prefer
[22:53] <Kubius> how is the pin numbering done in the raspi?
[22:53] <Kubius> I can't find a diagram telling me the raspi number for each pin
[22:53] <Kubius> I want to use gpio 23 but I don't know what actual pin number that is
[22:53] <[SLB]> http://goo.gl/xUAPNy
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[22:54] <[SLB]> 23 is at the inside of the board, second from the composite output
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[22:54] <Kubius> pin 16, then
[22:55] <Kubius> good that I found that
[22:55] <ThiefMaster> Kubius: i connected it to the usb hub in my monitor so i guess it can provide more than enough
[22:55] <Kubius> you're powering your pi
[22:55] <ThiefMaster> Kubius: but if there were power issues, wouldn't chances be good that the pi itself crashed or acted weird?
[22:55] <Kubius> off of your monitor?
[22:55] <ThiefMaster> sure, it contains a powered usb hub
[22:56] <Kubius> what power output?
[22:56] <ThiefMaster> let me check it
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[23:01] <ThiefMaster> 450mA
[23:02] <ThiefMaster> (that's how much it uses right now, there's no info on how much the hub can provide but i guess much more since i usually use it to fast-charge my phone just fine)
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[23:04] <Kubius> ok is there a delay function in python
[23:04] <ThiefMaster> time.sleep()
[23:05] <Kubius> it didn't work
[23:05] <ThiefMaster> for me time.sleep(1) sleepy for 1 second :o
[23:05] <ThiefMaster> *sleeps
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[23:06] <Kubius> it says name "time" is not defined
[23:07] <Kubius> pl
[23:07] <Kubius> ok
[23:07] <Kubius> I imported time and now it says sleep is not recognized
[23:07] <Kubius> weird
[23:08] <ThiefMaster> import time
[23:08] <ThiefMaster> or this: from time import sleep
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[23:08] <ThiefMaster> in the second case you can call sleep() directly
[23:09] <Kubius> IT WOLKED
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[23:13] <Nefarious___> what's the best way to run an ongoing python script as the pi user?
[23:13] <Nefarious___> at boot
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[23:13] <Nefarious___> automatically
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[23:15] <ponA> hi guys, anyone using DS18B20 temperature sensors at the pi?
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[23:23] <ThiefMaster> interesting... audio *input* works. just tried it using arecord. quality is not very good but i don't really care about that for now
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[23:24] <[SLB]> input? from where
[23:24] <ThiefMaster> from the usb headset where i don't hear anything when playing a file using aplay
[23:24] <[SLB]> ah okie eheh
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[23:32] <kylethebaker> hah, i am now a member of the rapsberry pi owner club
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[23:36] <ponA> congrats :)
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[23:45] <Encrypt> kylethebaker, Of the *big* owners club :p
[23:45] <kylethebaker> so how do i go about taking over the planet with this thing
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[23:47] <sney> first lower your expectations. then learn.
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[23:52] <Encrypt> kylethebaker, Just install gentoo on it :p
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[23:53] <kylethebaker> Encrypt: I really wanted to try out archarm, but i don't want to keep up with updates. one machine is enough
[23:54] <Encrypt> Eh eh :D
[23:54] <Encrypt> I'm running raspbian on mine
[23:54] <Encrypt> It works well, no problem...
[23:54] <Encrypt> All glory to apt-get \o/
[23:54] <kylethebaker> same here, i wanted to try out out the raspbian installer since i don't think ill use X on it, but im not really sure what kind of stuff i'd need to install for a pi
[23:55] <Encrypt> I don't use the X server ;)
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[23:57] <kylethebaker> what i'd like to do is have it setup to do adhoc ethernet connections so i can bring it with me and not have to worry about which ip it gets to be able to ssh in
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[23:58] <kylethebaker> but for now its going to be sitting on my desk for a while. im ordering some gpio utensils today

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