#raspberrypi IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2013-11-10

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[0:15] <rcassidy> hi all - having trouble with connecting my pi to an insecure wifi network
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[0:16] <rcassidy> changed my /etc/network/interfaces to have 'wireless-essid <SSID>' but stil just hanging watching DHCPoffers go by - anyone else have this trouble with raspbian?
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[0:57] <Mjiig> is there any good way to emulate a kernel running on the pi, so that I can debug the small programs i have running in kernel mode?
[0:57] <Triffid_Hunter> Mjiig: qemu
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[1:00] * nbrosnahan (~nbrosnaha@85-170-18-157.rev.numericable.fr) Quit (Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)
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[1:01] <Mjiig> Triffid_Hunter: but i'd have to set up emulation of anything like the graphics and the timer myself i assume?
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[1:02] <Triffid_Hunter> Mjiig: pretty sure you can't emulate the graphics, that's quite closed
[1:03] <Mjiig> Triffid_Hunter: i just meant getting access to the frame buffer by graphics, not any of the fancier graphics features
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[1:58] <tidux> I'm having a problem with raspbian where I get missed or repeated keystrokes from a USB keyboard while streaming audio over ethernet
[1:59] <tidux> is that normal?
[1:59] <tidux> and no, X isn't even running at the time
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[2:03] <Hedzup456> Hello
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[2:05] <Hedzup456> No-one answering?
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[2:05] <Hedzup456> :C
[2:05] <Hedzup456> hi
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[2:07] <Hedzup456> brb
[2:07] <Hedzup456> exit
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[2:10] <Hedzup456> Hello again
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[2:18] <shiftplusone> herdingcat, hey, a while back you were asking about qemu and I didn't really know what the problem was. Probably doesn't matter now, but in case you still need it, the kernel on xecdesign now works fine with latest raspbian.
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[2:27] <Hedzup456> exit
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[3:24] <bosnjak> is there a way to display something like osd or text on screen from nongui terminal using framebuffer
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[3:30] <shiftplusone> just display or overlay over the existing stuff
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[3:45] <Phosie> Hey hey!
[3:45] <fuzzer37> Ho Ho!
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[4:18] <Vialas> hiya all
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[4:19] <shiftplusone> hey
[4:19] <Vialas> hey shiftplusone !
[4:19] <Vialas> how ya going?
[4:19] <shiftplusone> I going good. Yourself?
[4:19] <Vialas> good to hear your well. Im doing great thanks
[4:20] <Vialas> rainy day here
[4:20] <Vialas> so im playing with my pi
[4:20] <Vialas> reinstalling a OS
[4:20] <Vialas> :)
[4:20] <shiftplusone> where's here?
[4:20] <Vialas> 1 hour south of Syd.
[4:20] <Vialas> Australia
[4:20] <shiftplusone> Ah, same here in Melbourne, but that's a given.
[4:20] <Vialas> haha yea
[4:21] <Vialas> its good rain
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[4:21] <Vialas> i would show you a pic but my weather station is down :(
[4:21] <shiftplusone> What does the weather station actually record?
[4:22] <Vialas> ahhh
[4:22] <Vialas> you mean what metrics ?
[4:22] <shiftplusone> yeah
[4:22] <Vialas> rain, temperature, humidity, wind direction and strenght
[4:22] <Vialas> strength
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[4:23] <shiftplusone> Ah, nice. I just bought a kayak, so something like that would be handy here. The local weather station hasn't been updated since october =/
[4:23] <shiftplusone> Just relying on BOM for now.
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[4:25] <Vialas> ohhh nice!!!
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[4:25] <Vialas> yea i supply one of those :D
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[4:26] <shiftplusone> Only recently realised the value of those. I think I was asking you recently what the hell the point of them is.
[4:27] <Vialas> lol why?
[4:28] <shiftplusone> Well, knowing the wind conditions is kind of important for sea kayak fishing. Went out in the wind and barely got back last time. >_<
[4:28] <Vialas> oh shiftplusone dude be careful!
[4:28] <Vialas> what yack you got
[4:28] <Vialas> i have a hobie :)
[4:28] <Vialas> i go in the ocean too but you HAVE to check swell and wind strength + direction !
[4:29] <[Saint]> yack, hobie? I never will understand the drug metaphors of our youth...
[4:29] <Vialas> what
[4:29] <Vialas> lol
[4:29] <[Saint]> Say no, kids.
[4:29] <Vialas> lol [Saint]
[4:29] <Vialas> yack = kayak
[4:29] <[Saint]> That's what they all say.
[4:29] <Vialas> hobbie is a make of yack :P
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[4:29] <shiftplusone> Nothing fancy, only just got into it, so I wasn't really informed when buying. It seems only suited for gentle waters http://q-kayaks.co.nz/recreation-kayaks/sprite-ii/
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[4:32] <Vialas> nice yack
[4:32] <Vialas> be careful in the ocean with that bad boy
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[4:32] <Vialas> http://www.idahowatersports.com/shop/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/revolution13-studio-red-3-4-full.png
[4:33] <Vialas> i got me that one
[4:33] <shiftplusone> ah, nice.
[4:33] <Vialas> yea it nice
[4:33] <Phosie> Using the Pi's 3mm audio output for the first time. I'm pleasently surprised.
[4:33] <shiftplusone> the pedals seem like a massive advantage (I am still sore from the first time I went out)
[4:33] <Vialas> hi Phosie , its good?
[4:33] <Phosie> I have no complaints.
[4:34] <shiftplusone> Phosie, no popping and cracking?
[4:34] <Vialas> lol shiftplusone the pedles are awesome, lets you go again and again
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[4:34] <Phosie> None at all, not that I can tell anyway
[4:35] <shiftplusone> hm, I guess they have patched that in software then... didn't think it was possible.
[4:35] <Vialas> hmm it wasnt taht great before shiftplusone ?
[4:35] <shiftplusone> it was ok, but not too great for listening to music
[4:36] <shiftplusone> Vialas, how much would one of those yacks set me back (second hand maybe)?
[4:36] <Vialas> they are expensive shiftplusone , and they hold their value
[4:36] <Vialas> very difficult to buy second hand because most who buy them love them and dont give them up
[4:36] <Vialas> lol
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[4:36] <shiftplusone> heh
[4:36] <Vialas> thats why i decided to buy new
[4:37] <Vialas> they are expensive
[4:37] <Vialas> ill warn you now
[4:37] <Vialas> shiftplusone : what do your RasPis do?)
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[4:37] <shiftplusone> Vialas, right now, nothing. Just provide a little home server (stores files, downloads torrents, runs web server and such)
[4:38] <Vialas> nice
[4:38] <Vialas> why not make it your weather station server too :)
[4:38] <Vialas> i have 3 pis, only one is in production right now as a webserver
[4:38] <shiftplusone> too broke for sensors I suspect.
[4:38] <Vialas> bugger
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[4:39] <Vialas> anyone had luck with Hamanchi + rasPi?
[4:39] <Vialas> i used to be able to get it to work but i cant anymore :(
[4:40] <Phosie> Argh, can't properly adjust overscan
[4:40] <Phosie> Looks right in the calibration, but the twitch stream I'm watching is cut off
[4:40] <Vialas> hmmm
[4:40] <Vialas> :( no good Phosie
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[4:41] <Phosie> Just configured it wrong on purpose, lets see how this looks.
[4:42] <Phosie> Woohoo!
[4:42] <Vialas> works hey?
[4:43] <Phosie> Yep, I'm a happy Phosie now.
[4:43] <fengshaun> is any microusb 5V 550mA good for RPi?
[4:43] <fengshaun> I have one for a cellphone
[4:43] <[Saint]> Nope.
[4:43] <Phosie> Seems a little low on the current side fengshaun
[4:43] <fengshaun> oh
[4:43] <[Saint]> 700mA min, really.
[4:43] <[Saint]> 1A preferred.
[4:44] <[Saint]> SO - back to the drawing board.
[4:44] <fengshaun> 5V?
[4:44] <Phosie> yes
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[4:44] <[Saint]> Yes.
[4:44] <fengshaun> thanks
[4:44] <[Saint]> ..doesn't it state this in the material you get with the pi?
[4:44] <[Saint]> It certainly used to.
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[4:45] <fengshaun> I did not get much material with pi
[4:45] <fengshaun> just a standards disclaimer
[4:46] <fengshaun> in an opened box :(
[4:46] <Phosie> Heh awesome, I can avoid the twitch ads with Raspbmc.
[4:46] <[Saint]> fengshaun: there should've been a smal package of written materials.
[4:46] <[Saint]> probably discarded immeiately.
[4:46] <fengshaun> no, just got it 5min ago
[4:46] <Phosie> Brand new, or ebay?
[4:46] <[Saint]> Who did you purchase this through?
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[4:47] <fengshaun> supposedly brand new, from amazon
[4:47] <fengshaun> but the pkg was opened
[4:47] <[Saint]> Yeah - resellers have no obligations, nor would they care I guess.
[4:47] <Phosie> I probably got one, but I got my pi over a year ago and can't remember.
[4:47] <fengshaun> the material should be online anyway, no?
[4:47] <[Saint]> It makes me wonder why people buy from one-off sellers.
[4:48] <[Saint]> Screwing yourself out of a warranty.
[4:48] <fengshaun> honestly, it was a mistake
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[4:48] <fengshaun> the price would have come the same anyway
[4:48] <fengshaun> don't know why I did that
[4:49] <Vialas> what software can i use to backup SD immage?
[4:49] <[Saint]> dd
[4:49] <shiftplusone> which OS?
[4:49] <Vialas> osx or windows
[4:50] <shiftplusone> windiskimager or whatever it is called will work on windows
[4:50] <shiftplusone> dd should work on osx
[4:50] * [Saint] gets points for given an OS-agnostic answer.
[4:50] <fengshaun> or dd for windows
[4:50] <shiftplusone> dd is awkward on windows
[4:50] <fengshaun> oh
[4:50] <shiftplusone> the way devices are specified is just.... ew.
[4:50] <[Saint]> No more so than any other OS.
[4:50] <[Saint]> oh, well..yeah, that.
[4:50] <Vialas> dd ?
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[4:51] <Vialas> wow horses are going from central park :O
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[4:52] * shiftplusone tries to parse that statement
[4:52] * LuisLeite good evening/morning
[4:52] <shiftplusone> hey
[4:52] <LuisLeite> hey shiftplusone
[4:52] <Phosie> Morning LuisLeite
[4:53] <Vialas> i dont know how to use winddiskimmager to backup sdcard lol
[4:53] <LuisLeite> being on duty, and can't sleep its bs :|
[4:53] <Phosie> My sleeping pattern is well and truly ruined.
[4:53] <Phosie> I actually can't have an early night. I wake up 2-3 hours later, feeling wide awake. Without fail.
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[4:54] <LuisLeite> Phosie, mine its destroyed by people that snor ( i think its good write, bad english over here ) lol
[4:54] <shiftplusone> Vialas, just a sec, I'll download it and take a look
[4:54] <Vialas> rgr thanks shiftplusone
[4:55] <fengshaun> so that written material I was supposed to get, where do I find it online? is that the same as quickstart guide?
[4:55] <Phosie> I sleep alone so I don't have that issue.
[4:55] <Vialas> i think you browse for a image and type a name that doesnt exist then click "read"
[4:55] <Vialas> but not sure
[4:55] <LuisLeite> i have this issue 2 times @ week.. since i'm a firefighter :(
[4:55] <Vialas> your a Firefigther
[4:55] <Vialas> same here bro
[4:55] <LuisLeite> yep
[4:55] <LuisLeite> volunteer
[4:55] <Vialas> same here
[4:55] <Vialas> where?
[4:56] <LuisLeite> Porto @ Portugal
[4:56] <Vialas> nice
[4:56] <Vialas> Australia for me
[4:56] <LuisLeite> and u?
[4:56] <Vialas> ^
[4:56] <LuisLeite> hehe, nice
[4:56] <Vialas> yea
[4:56] <LuisLeite> its diferent styles of work ;)
[4:56] <[Saint]> fengshaun: yes - one and the same
[4:56] <Vialas> yep sure is
[4:56] <Vialas> have many runs LuisLeite ?
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[4:56] <[Saint]> note the "700mA at 5V is essential" part.
[4:56] <LuisLeite> yep
[4:56] <fengshaun> [Saint]: awesome, now as long as the opened pi works, It'll be fine
[4:56] <LuisLeite> each night +/- 5 calls
[4:56] <LuisLeite> of ambulance
[4:57] <shiftplusone> Vialas, looks like win32diskimager can only deal with partitions rather than the whole disk.
[4:57] <Vialas> dam you guys are busy :)
[4:57] <Vialas> oh realy?
[4:57] <fengshaun> damn, kinda disappointed that I didn't get it from an original retailer
[4:57] <[Saint]> And if it doesn't - yay for amazon disputes that almost always end up with the seller winning!
[4:57] <[Saint]> ;)
[4:57] <LuisLeite> and u over there?
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[4:57] <fengshaun> yay indeed
[4:57] <Vialas> LuisLeite we dont get heaps in the station im at :(
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[4:58] <LuisLeite> hmm, heaps? calls?
[4:58] <[Saint]> My neighbor got a fire unit over a few days ago because he stuck his something into something he shouldn't have stuck his something into.
[4:58] <[Saint]> ...and it stuck.
[4:58] <shiftplusone> Vialas, this tool seems a little better http://www.roadkil.net/program.php?ProgramID=12&Action=NewOSID&DownloadVersion=9&Installer=NO
[4:58] <LuisLeite> [Saint], LOOOOOOOOOOOL
[4:59] <LuisLeite> the akward calls
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[4:59] <Vialas> [Saint] lol unlucky
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[4:59] <Vialas> i dont deal with man parts
[4:59] <Vialas> only women in distress, yes im sexist :P
[4:59] <Vialas> hahaha
[4:59] <LuisLeite> me two
[4:59] <LuisLeite> LOL
[4:59] <LuisLeite> too*
[4:59] <Vialas> thanks shiftplusone
[4:59] <[Saint]> Honestly, having a fireman manipulating power tools around my "personal area" wouldn;t be as embarrasing as making the call in the first place.
[5:00] <[Saint]> "Errr...I errrr...well, you'd better come look"
[5:00] <Phosie> lmao
[5:00] <LuisLeite> man victims are nice to take care, most of time they get in the ambulance by the hard way
[5:00] <Phosie> I do not envy males in the slightest.
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[5:00] <LuisLeite> Vialas, and the fires around there?
[5:00] <[Saint]> Oh oh - prepare for a flood of PMs Phosie :)
[5:01] <[Saint]> Now we know.
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[5:01] <LuisLeite> LOOL
[5:01] <Phosie> It's no secret. :)
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[5:01] * LuisLeite atacks the pm of Phosie
[5:01] <LuisLeite> *not*
[5:01] <Vialas> LuisLeite, yes we had fires, i was working on em
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[5:01] <LuisLeite> here we do everthing at same time
[5:02] <LuisLeite> ambulance, fire, car accidents, saving kitties
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[5:03] <LuisLeite> Vialas, http://lh4.ggpht.com/_vfV2szvFjlo/SsnqCzSbr7I/AAAAAAAAAyM/ayzaPDPj1h8/s800/VUCI04%20-%2004.JPG our truck for fires and only lol
[5:03] <kirat> I want to use raspi as server. How is its electrical consumption? what about tne necessity of a cooling system?
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[5:03] <[Saint]> ~4W, and - none.
[5:04] <[Saint]> Nothing comes close to it in terms of power cosumption vs. usability.
[5:04] <Vialas> LuisLeite we do same , altho we also have full timers (thats why we dont get as may calls in my town)
[5:04] <[Saint]> In terms of cooling - its a cellphone.
[5:04] <phantomcircuit> kirat, be sure to water cool your rpi for maximum efficiency
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[5:05] <LuisLeite> we have shifts during the day, night its volunteers only
[5:05] <Vialas> kirat it doesnt make much heat at all, as for power consumption you can work out how much it would cost for one year
[5:05] <Phosie> Liquid nitrogen.
[5:05] <Vialas> in australia it costs me $9 from memory for a whole year :D
[5:05] <[Saint]> phantomcircuit: not before coating the entire thing in a fine layer of unobtanium I hope?
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[5:06] <kirat> [Saint]: phantomcircuit Vialas : thx
[5:06] <kirat> It doesnt produce heat even if it is in a plastic case?
[5:07] <[Saint]> kirat: it might be non-obvious, but phantomcircuit's response was slightly (actually *really*) sarcastic.
[5:07] <Phosie> kirat: I've been watching videos for the last 8 hours and my pi is under 50C
[5:07] <[Saint]> And, yes - it does produce heat, of course it does. But nothing you need to worry about.
[5:08] <[Saint]> The hardware in this thing is a ~2008-era cellphone.
[5:08] <[Saint]> Does your phone need cooling?
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[5:08] <[Saint]> (my favourite response to these types of question ^)
[5:08] <Phosie> Just reminded me, I discovered earlier I have a pretty tough LED.
[5:08] <LuisLeite> Vialas, get me a bed to sleep :|
[5:08] <kirat> [Saint]: is it a sarcastic or real question? :p
[5:08] <SpeedEvil> cooling may be needed in warm environments with a sealed small case?
[5:08] <SpeedEvil> .
[5:09] <Phosie> Put too much juice through it, it started smoking and burnt my fingers. It still works!
[5:09] <kirat> [Saint]: nice, thx
[5:09] <SpeedEvil> not generally
[5:09] <[Saint]> SpeedEvil: nope.
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[5:09] <fuzzer37> My pi, Overclocked to 1.15GHz, only gets up to about 57C.
[5:10] <Vialas> i forgot the monitor sofware i used on my raspbry pi :(
[5:10] <fuzzer37> under load
[5:10] <Phosie> 1.15?!
[5:10] <[Saint]> And even if the pi *did* overheat - the worst that's going to happen is it'll shut down.
[5:10] <fuzzer37> Yeah, wouldn't boot at 1.2
[5:10] <Phosie> I'm impressed.
[5:10] <shiftplusone> Heh, no need to be sardonic. It was a legitimate question. (As much as that question annoys me.)
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[5:11] <Phosie> My netbook is 1.66
[5:11] <fuzzer37> I spent a few hours overclocking it to get maximum LINPACK benchmarks.
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[5:11] <[Saint]> ...for, science?
[5:12] <fuzzer37> The linpack score started out at 14947.3 KFLOPS
[5:12] <[Saint]> I spent a brief time overclocking raspis, then I thought "Hey, what am I actually doing? I'm fighting to hold a device stable that crashes when I look at it funnily"
[5:12] <fuzzer37> Got it up to 28809.3 KFLOPS
[5:12] <fuzzer37> Basicly you can double the performance of your pi
[5:13] <Phosie> I think I'm going to head off to bed.
[5:13] <Vialas> ahh :( i cant rem the monitoring sofware i use
[5:13] <[Saint]> Double the performance, and increase the risk of IO error exponentially. :)
[5:13] <Vialas> :(
[5:14] <Phosie> Take care everyone. o/
[5:14] <fuzzer37> Vialas: just use top if you want to monitor CPU
[5:14] <fuzzer37> Night
[5:14] <[Saint]> When you've only got a single USB 2 bus to use, there;s a limit to how much you can usably increase perforance.
[5:14] <Vialas> thanks fuzzer37 , i had a website thing
[5:14] <Vialas> cant rmeber what it is though
[5:14] <fuzzer37> I have a spreadsheet of all the clock speeds and Benchmarks that i got if anyone is interested
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[5:15] <Vialas> oh thats cool fuzzer37
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[5:18] <fuzzer37> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Aq4AlReykQQEdGFobFlkN2drX1AzUFFhdWVzQjczQ1E&usp=sharing
[5:18] <fuzzer37> There's the Overclock Data.
[5:18] <Vialas> thanks
[5:18] <Vialas> one day , can you explain it all to me
[5:18] <Vialas> lol
[5:19] <fuzzer37> Not hard once you know what you're doing. lol. Edit a file, shut off, hope it can boot, repeat
[5:20] * [Saint] looks at his phone.
[5:20] <[Saint]> Apparently, its "SunNOVEMBER108888888yyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyWED" today
[5:21] <[Saint]> Opp. Now its "SUNNOV10BEREM"
[5:21] <fuzzer37> According to your phone?
[5:21] <Vialas> what?
[5:22] <[Saint]> No idea. The data/time is having an episode.
[5:22] <LuisLeite> da hell?
[5:22] <Vialas> hmm
[5:23] <[Saint]> (beofre you ask, I did painstakingly count the erroneous 8's and y's...I'm not proud)
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[5:26] <LuisLeite> well, cya later gonna try to sleep something
[5:26] <LuisLeite> or gonna kill 3 guys today
[5:27] <Vialas> ok LuisLeite , may the bells be silent
[5:27] <LuisLeite> ahaha, the bells today are too quiet.. just 1 call today and had to involve the cops
[5:27] <Vialas> hmm fair enough
[5:27] <Vialas> not great calls those
[5:28] <LuisLeite> meh, i like them
[5:28] <fengshaun> wait, why is the SD card readonly?
[5:28] <Vialas> onse with police?
[5:28] <LuisLeite> most of the calls i don't transport
[5:28] <LuisLeite> the cops take care of the "problem"
[5:29] <LuisLeite> and i "clean" my hands, since i was the EMT in charge
[5:29] <[Saint]> fengshaun: you're going to have to include some more data there bud.
[5:29] <[Saint]> /usually/, this is a reaction to avoid more data corruption in an already corrupt filesyste.
[5:29] <fengshaun> [Saint]: huh, apparently there is a lock on the side of the SD card
[5:29] <fengshaun> the more you know
[5:29] <[Saint]> Ah - right, yes. There is. :)
[5:30] <fengshaun> dd: failed to open /dev/sdb: Read-only file system
[5:30] * [Saint] should learn to ask the simple things first and not assume the user already has elimiated them.
[5:30] <LuisLeite> Vialas, over there in aus before u transport u don't have to make a call to a "doctor" and then procede the transport?
[5:30] <fengshaun> nope, same problem
[5:30] <fengshaun> it's not the lock
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[5:31] <Vialas> no LuisLeite
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[5:32] <LuisLeite> meh, here we have :(
[5:32] <LuisLeite> most of the time its a waste of time, but well rules are rules
[5:34] <Vialas> yup
[5:35] <LuisLeite> Vialas, in another day i would like to "share" some thoughts about pre-hospital ;)
[5:35] <LuisLeite> since our works are equal and same time very dif
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[5:36] <fengshaun> so, how can I make the sd card read-write? the hardware lock doesn't seem to be doing anything
[5:36] <Vialas> what, it should be read write by default
[5:36] <fengshaun> it doesn't
[5:36] <fengshaun> toggling the lock doesn't help either
[5:37] <[Saint]> mount using -f
[5:38] <[Saint]> ...but, that's kinda dangerous, which is why the OS mounted RO in the first place.
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[5:38] <fengshaun> alright, now what?
[5:38] <[Saint]> It basically means "we know data in here is corrupt, so rather than screw it up further, its now RO - do something with it"
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[5:38] <fengshaun> even dd doesn't do anything
[5:39] <[Saint]> It won't let you write to it, no.
[5:39] <fengshaun> and the card itself has no data to begin with
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[5:41] <fengshaun> I'm not part of the disk group, does that have something to do with it?
[5:41] <[Saint]> "sudo mount -o remount,rw /path/to/device /mountpoint"
[5:42] <fengshaun> /dev/sdb1 does not exist. but fdisk -l shows /dev/sdb1
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[5:46] <fengshaun> this is just frustrating
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[5:47] <Vialas> ok can someone help me
[5:47] <Vialas> having issues installing with dpkg
[5:49] <[Saint]> you mean re-installing, right?
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[5:49] <Vialas> no
[5:49] <Vialas> i formated my pi
[5:49] <[Saint]> dpkg is a default package, it should already be installed.
[5:50] <Vialas> yea
[5:50] <Vialas> let me rephrase
[5:50] <Vialas> using dpkg to install
[5:50] <Vialas> :P
[5:50] <[Saint]> to install...what?
[5:50] <Vialas> hamanchi
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[5:50] <Vialas> i try "sudo dpkg -l ham.......deb"
[5:50] <Vialas> but it doesnt work :(
[5:51] <Vialas> (do i need hard float ? )
[5:51] <[Saint]> I think you misread?
[5:51] <[Saint]> You want "-i"
[5:51] <[Saint]> or --install
[5:52] <Vialas> ohhhhhh
[5:52] <Vialas> lol
[5:52] <Vialas> [Saint] thankyou
[5:53] <Vialas> done
[5:53] <Vialas> still cant get it to work :(
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[5:54] <Vialas> when i install hamanchi it says failed to start :(
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[6:15] <azizLIGHTS> i just got the pi hooked up to a old tv, im not seeing anything. i got the noobs card in, yellow wire going to tv, stereo output spltting to red/white wire, both going to same output on tv as yellow video wire. pi is powered on. what do i do
[6:15] <Vialas> hi azizLIGHTS
[6:16] <Vialas> not to be rude but you have tried all the input sources on the tv
[6:16] <Vialas> ie made sure its going to right port and right channel is on?
[6:16] <azizLIGHTS> yup i cycled them all, i dont see the pi on any of them
[6:16] <Vialas> what light is on the pi?
[6:16] <azizLIGHTS> i even switched to another input on the tv
[6:16] <azizLIGHTS> red color light
[6:16] <Vialas> good ok we got power
[6:16] <azizLIGHTS> pwr light is on
[6:16] <Vialas> ok so how did you put NOOBz on it?
[6:17] <azizLIGHTS> i got it from element14 pre-instaleld sd card with noobs on it
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[6:17] <Vialas> oh wow ok
[6:18] <azizLIGHTS> i connected a usb hub (powered by wall adapter) that is connecting a keyboard, mouse and mini wifi dongle i got from element14 (adafruit)
[6:18] <Vialas> ok
[6:18] <Vialas> lets start with basics
[6:18] <azizLIGHTS> its only using one usb on the pi
[6:18] <Vialas> take everything out except for SD card , video cable and the power
[6:18] <Vialas> then i would ask you make sure channel is on right source, and powercycle
[6:18] <azizLIGHTS> while the power is on?
[6:19] <azizLIGHTS> take everythign out while power is on?
[6:19] <Vialas> no
[6:19] <Vialas> turn power off plz
[6:19] <azizLIGHTS> ok
[6:19] <Vialas> thanks
[6:20] <azizLIGHTS> not seeing anything on any input
[6:20] <Vialas> hmm
[6:20] <Vialas> so you dont get the colour pixles?
[6:20] <Vialas> nothing?
[6:21] <azizLIGHTS> tv is showing blue screen like nothing is connected
[6:21] <azizLIGHTS> for all inputs
[6:21] <Vialas> hmmm
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[6:22] <Vialas> i assume you can only use the yellow cable, no hdmi?
[6:24] <azizLIGHTS> unfortunately yes. no hdmi
[6:25] <[Saint]> noobs automagically uses the HDMI out on boot, pretty sure there's a keypress to get it to boot and use VGA out.
[6:25] <Vialas> yea
[6:25] <Vialas> i didnt know that
[6:25] <Vialas> good work [Saint]
[6:25] <azizLIGHTS> what is the keypress?
[6:25] <Vialas> one tic
[6:26] <[Saint]> "By default, NOOBS 1.2 will try to output over HDMI at your display's preferred resolution. If you do not see any output on your HDMI display or are using the composite output, you can manually select a different output mode by pressing one of the following number keys on your keyboard;
[6:26] <[Saint]> 1. HDMI preferred mode - this is the default display mode for NOOBS.
[6:26] <[Saint]> 2. HDMI safe mode - select this mode if your display is connected to the Pi's HDMI connector and you cannot see anything on screen after the Pi has booted.
[6:26] <[Saint]> 3. Composite PAL mode - select either this mode or composite NTSC mode if you are using the composite RCA video connector on the Pi
[6:26] <[Saint]> 4. Composite NTSC mode"
[6:26] <Vialas> there you go
[6:27] <azizLIGHTS> so as soon as i power on, i spam 4 on the keyboard?
[6:27] <azizLIGHTS> my tv is ntsc
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[6:27] <Vialas> yea
[6:28] <azizLIGHTS> something happened
[6:28] <Vialas> ?
[6:29] <[Saint]> duh....something! ;)
[6:29] <azizLIGHTS> i see a black screen instead of blue. its almost all black, except for a speck of blue/red line. the line is going upand down very fast
[6:29] <azizLIGHTS> this is all i see
[6:29] <Vialas> hmmm
[6:30] * [Saint] finds it somewhat ironic that NOOBS was supposed to remove barriers to usage and installation
[6:30] <[Saint]> Actually, hugely ironic.
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[6:31] <Vialas> =lol
[6:31] <Vialas> yea
[6:31] <Vialas> direct immage is easiest
[6:31] <Vialas> :$
[6:31] <azizLIGHTS> what is supposed to be on the screen right now
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[6:32] <[Saint]> For what reason is it that you are using the NOOBS installer, azizLIGHTS?
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[6:33] <[Saint]> I usually suggest people don't bother with it unless they have a specific reason to.
[6:33] <Vialas> i agree
[6:33] <azizLIGHTS> ive had this issue with ubuntu/mint before, where id see a scrolling screen like this. i remember having to type something in the boot options like nomodeset
[6:33] <azizLIGHTS> i thought it was the way to do it
[6:33] <azizLIGHTS> will nomodeset help here
[6:33] <[Saint]> Its the way they're pushing - but, whether or not its the "right" way is up for interpretation.
[6:34] <[Saint]> I personally think its only useful if you want to dual-boot or can't manage to image an sdcard manually.
[6:35] <azizLIGHTS> ok well, can you point me to what i need to do to an sd card. i have one available
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[6:35] <azizLIGHTS> its 16gb
[6:35] <[Saint]> http://elinux.org/RPi_Easy_SD_Card_Setup
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[6:42] <Vialas> how you going with it azizLIGHTS ?
[6:42] <azizLIGHTS> im downloading raspbian torrent right now
[6:42] <azizLIGHTS> then gonna use the windows 7 image writer
[6:43] <azizLIGHTS> as per the instructions
[6:44] <Vialas> good man
[6:44] <Vialas> its easy you will find
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[6:49] <azizLIGHTS> i hope so
[6:50] <azizLIGHTS> im just worried about that screen scrolling thing ive seen before
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[6:50] <Vialas> i thought noobz was the best way then i found it caused a lot more problems than it solved
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[6:52] <[Saint]> Dear YouTube - you need ReplayGain, sincerely - Me.
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[7:04] <shiftplusone> hm, what's the best way to use bash to remove lines containing a certain string from a file?
[7:04] <[Saint]> sed?
[7:05] <shiftplusone> what and read the manual? D=
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[7:14] <shiftplusone> sed -i "/string/d" /etc/fstab
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[7:14] <shiftplusone> simple enough, thanks
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[7:17] <[Saint]> Oh - crap...sorry man!
[7:17] <[Saint]> Seems I forgot to press Enter.
[7:17] <[Saint]> I actually had an example queues up...
[7:17] <[Saint]> *queued
[7:17] <shiftplusone> heh
[7:17] <[Saint]> Didn;t mean to send you off on a journey of discovery - but, yay? :)
[7:18] <shiftplusone> yay indeed (it wasn't as bad of a journey as I expected)
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[7:25] <Vialas> lol
[7:25] <Vialas> nice stuff
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[8:31] <mrmoney2012> hi chaps - anyone take a view on this one - i do this... raspistill --nopreview -w 640 -h 480 -q 5 -o /run/shm/pic.jpg -tl 100 -t 9999999 -th 0:0:0 --rotation 180 > /dev/null 2>&1 &
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[8:31] <mrmoney2012> works great for a number of hours then mysteriously the process disappears.. any views?
[8:32] <shiftplusone> clever, around?
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[8:36] <clever> shiftplusone: yep
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[8:39] <shiftplusone> clever, ever run into this http://pastebin.com/XAXYXjj7 ?
[8:40] <shiftplusone> Don't know if it's arch or the qemu build. Going to try with raspbian once I get the scripts set up for it.
[8:40] <clever> shiftplusone: id run that inside strace to figure out which syscall is the issue
[8:40] <clever> strace ping 8.8.8.8
[8:41] <shiftplusone> can't do that right now, but I'll give it a go later.
[8:41] <shiftplusone> after raspbian
[8:42] <shiftplusone> clever, you might also like something like this for your scripts http://pastebin.com/hEwfEmAi
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[8:43] <clever> oh, and strace may be wonky inside all that emulation
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[8:45] <clever> lets see, 184 was the problem
[8:46] <clever> and in arch/x86/kernel/syscall_table_32.S
[8:46] <clever> 184 is sys_capget
[8:46] <clever> and after that fails, it complains about cap_get_proc not being implemented
[8:46] <clever> feels like qemu doesnt support or has caps support disabled
[8:47] <clever> should be able to recompile ping without it anyways
[8:47] <clever> oh, and ping needs some VERY specialized stuff, that normal programs never need
[8:47] <clever> icmp needs root
[8:47] <shiftplusone> interesting
[8:48] <clever> ping is always setuid root so normal users can use it, but qemu may still be upset
[8:48] <clever> normaly, id also check the syscall table for arm, but the x86 result matches up with the other error
[8:48] <clever> it could also be that you have caps support off in the host kernel
[8:48] <clever> how lightweight did you make the vbox image?
[8:49] <shiftplusone> not at all, it's a standard Mint install.
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[8:50] <clever> might just be off by default in mint, dont know
[8:51] <shiftplusone> hm, raspbian seems to work
[8:51] <clever> not many things make use of caps
[8:51] <clever> its a special thing to kinda give root to a single process
[8:52] <clever> for example, giving ping the icmp network perms, without giving it read to /etc/shadow
[8:52] <clever> so if ping gets exploited, your entire system doesnt crack open like an egg
[8:53] <shiftplusone> seems more like a dirty hack O_o
[8:53] <shiftplusone> ah, great and I get qemu: Unsupported syscall: 374 as well >_<
[8:53] <clever> *looks*
[8:53] <shiftplusone> and the network doesn't work under arch
[8:53] <shiftplusone> raspbian works fine though
[8:53] <clever> my file only goes up to 346
[8:54] <Vialas> wow hey clever and shiftplusone
[8:54] <shiftplusone> Hello again
[8:55] <shiftplusone> Now then... to figure out why the network doesn't work then
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[8:55] <shiftplusone> google tells me the 374 error is safe to ignore.
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[8:57] <clever> shiftplusone: cant seem to find the syscall tables in recent kernels
[8:57] <shiftplusone> well, that was simple enough, just had to copy resolv.conf
[8:57] <clever> they moved it
[8:57] <clever> yeah, thats standard for all chroots
[8:57] <clever> the dns config is held in there
[8:58] <clever> ip config is purely in kernel
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[8:58] <clever> basicaly, the kernel doesnt support dns at all
[8:58] <clever> its purely a userspace trick
[8:58] <shiftplusone> yeah, I figured I could get away without it since raspbian worked.
[8:58] <clever> that might have better defaults
[8:58] <clever> most distro's leave it blank and wait for dhcp
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[8:59] <shiftplusone> into the prepare script it goes then =D
[9:00] <clever> one minor bit about your fdisk stuff in that script
[9:00] <clever> d will pick the only partition if you have one
[9:00] <clever> so the number doesnt always get accepted
[9:00] <shiftplusone> yeah, I am aware that there is very minimal error checking there
[9:00] <shiftplusone> It's just something for personal use with known images
[9:01] <shiftplusone> just noticed I have returns where exits should be as well.
[9:02] <clever> that only matters if your starting to use functions heavily
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[9:02] <shiftplusone> well thanks for the help, that's that sorted.
[9:02] <shiftplusone> well it matters because it will spit out an error and then continue running the script, so... exit is the way to go there.
[9:03] <clever> oh, return doesnt halt it there?
[9:03] <clever> also, i use something simpler
[9:03] <clever> #!/bin/bash -e
[9:03] <clever> if ANY command returns non-zero, the whole thing comes to a halt
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[9:03] <shiftplusone> ooh, nice.
[9:03] <clever> mkdir /mnt/rpi/ || true
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[9:03] <clever> this forces errors to be ignored
[9:04] <clever> so it wont bomb out if the dir already exists
[9:04] <shiftplusone> clever, clever
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[9:06] <shiftplusone> I was looking to steal your command to automatically edit ld.so.preload, but you don't seem to have that still D=
[9:06] <clever> oh, forgot about that step
[9:07] <clever> what was the change?
[9:07] <shiftplusone> /usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/libcofi_rpi.so -> #/usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/libcofi_rpi.so
[9:07] <clever> ah
[9:07] <clever> my image booted with that change still in place
[9:07] <clever> not sure what its doing
[9:08] <clever> so it might be fine to just delete the file
[9:08] <shiftplusone> well yeah, but I would rather just comment out the line
[9:08] <shiftplusone> So it's easy to re-enable when transferring back to the pi
[9:08] <clever> sed maybe
[9:08] <clever> may want to research it, because my pi boots with it still commented
[9:09] <shiftplusone> yes, it will boot fine without it
[9:09] <shiftplusone> it just makes the pi faster
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[9:09] <clever> ah
[9:09] <shiftplusone> it contains replacement memcpy commands and such
[9:09] <shiftplusone> which use the gpu
[9:09] <clever> ahh
[9:09] <shiftplusone> and arm trickery, as I understand it.
[9:10] <clever> sed or just rename it maybe?
[9:11] <shiftplusone> I am terrible with sed
[9:11] <clever> just rename it then maybe
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[9:13] <shiftplusone> google says sed "1s/^/\#/"
[9:13] <clever> also, dont cat foo | sed > foo
[9:13] <shiftplusone> I use -i O_o
[9:13] <clever> bash always opens it for writting and truncates, before running cat
[9:14] <shiftplusone> "1s/^/\#/" just looks like someone dropped something on the keyboard to me
[9:14] <shiftplusone> seems to work... I'll take it.
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[9:17] <shiftplusone> though if it runs multiple times it just keeps adding #s
[9:17] <clever> egrep '^#'
[9:18] <clever> clever@ramboot ~/apps/crosspiroot $ egrep '^#' a ;echo $?
[9:18] <clever> 1
[9:18] <clever> clever@ramboot ~/apps/crosspiroot $ cat a
[9:18] <clever> test
[9:18] <clever> clever@ramboot ~/apps/crosspiroot $
[9:18] <clever> shiftplusone: if the file doesnt match, grep returns an error
[9:18] <clever> and it returns 0 if it matches
[9:18] <clever> egrep '^#' a || sed ...
[9:19] <clever> and maybe add -q to grep, to make it silent
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[9:20] <mrmoney2012> is rpi-update safe to use to update the kernel at the moment - read some stuff saying there is a new kernel available - does it give much benefit? sorry if this is a noobish question - i am very used to apt-get fist-upgrade but don't upgrade the kernel so often - is it recommended ?
[9:20] <shiftplusone> Ah, that works. Thank you, kind bash wizard.
[9:21] <shiftplusone> mrmoney2012, theoretically, you should not have to use rpi-update ever. Raspbian should keep the firmware and kernel packages up to date.
[9:21] <mrmoney2012> oh - interesting
[9:21] <shiftplusone> In practice, they were 3 months out of date last time I checked... so I am not sure what that's about.
[9:21] <mrmoney2012> apt-get is enough then?
[9:22] <mrmoney2012> more precisely - apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[9:22] <shiftplusone> it should be, but I have been meaning to ask plugwash why the firmware packages are out of date (unless those packages are managed by the foundation)
[9:22] <shiftplusone> I haven't looked into it too much, to be honest.
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[9:23] <clever> you usualy dont need dist-upgrade, just upgrade
[9:23] <shiftplusone> that too
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[9:25] <mrmoney2012> heard differing opinions on that
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[9:25] <mrmoney2012> figured dist-upgrade more thorough?
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[9:26] <mrmoney2012> but ok.. so to update a raspbian system .. i don't need rpi-update any more...
[9:26] <mrmoney2012> maybe that was just for the early days
[9:26] <mrmoney2012> :-)
[9:27] <shiftplusone> or so would be the case if the packages were kept up to date.
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[9:30] <shiftplusone> Well... that's raspbian and arch chroot scripts sorted =)
[9:30] <mrmoney2012> ok.. but thanks.. anyone woken up who could give me a view on the other matter... camera stuff!
[9:31] <mrmoney2012> i do this... raspistill --nopreview -w 640 -h 480 -q 5 -o /run/shm/pic.jpg -tl 100 -t 9999999 -th 0:0:0 --rotation 180 > /dev/null 2>&1 &
[9:31] <mrmoney2012> works for a while but then the process seems to die
[9:31] <shiftplusone> imho camera questions are best asked on the forum
[9:31] <shiftplusone> since jamesh keeps an eye out for those
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[9:32] <shiftplusone> but if you don't pipe it to null, do you get any error message at the end?
[9:33] <mrmoney2012> yeah - that's a good point actually - i think i introduced the pipe as it was spitting out lines of output i didn't need - good point, will reinvestigate
[9:33] <mrmoney2012> ta
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[9:34] <shiftplusone> good luck
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[9:41] <gcds> Morning
[9:42] <shiftplusone> hey
[9:42] <gcds> Anyone could compile me a kernel module and send me with kernel img, modules and my module for a reward because I dont have time to install toolchain and so on...
[9:43] <shiftplusone> what kind of reward are we talking here? O_o
[9:43] <gcds> 25$
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[9:43] <gcds> Or something similar :(
[9:43] <gcds> I havent slept for 32 hours
[9:43] <gcds> and my head isnt workin :(
[9:43] <shiftplusone> I'll give it a go (no need for a reward though >_<)
[9:43] <gcds> Thanks man!!!
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[10:14] <shiftplusone> welcome back
[10:14] <shiftplusone> are you just after the .ko file?
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[10:20] <p0ssum> guys my pi stopped booting, i got "kernel panic, init not found" and i put the sdcard into my ubuntu laptop and ran e2fschk, it fixed countless errors and now it still doesnt boot. when i mount the sd card partition in ubuntu i only see a "lost+found" folder, nothing else
[10:20] <p0ssum> what could this mean?
[10:20] <Habbie> how big is the lost+found / what does df -h report?
[10:20] <p0ssum> jut a sec
[10:21] <p0ssum> df -h says 92% used on that partition
[10:21] <p0ssum> or 14GB
[10:21] <Habbie> and all in lost+found?
[10:21] <Habbie> that's bad :(
[10:21] <p0ssum> i dont know
[10:21] <p0ssum> df doesnt tell me which folders
[10:21] <Habbie> du -hs lost+found
[10:21] <p0ssum> :(
[10:22] <p0ssum> ok just a sec
[10:23] <p0ssum> still running
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[10:25] <p0ssum> still
[10:25] <p0ssum> wow that sucks :(
[10:25] <p0ssum> Habbie: does that mean my fs got so fucked up i cannot even see a single file anymore??
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[10:26] <ShorTie> be nice, read the topic
[10:26] <shiftplusone> p0ssum, family friendly channel
[10:26] <p0ssum> oh sry
[10:26] <shiftplusone> np
[10:26] <p0ssum> :(
[10:26] <p0ssum> so e2fschk put all my files into "lost+found" or something?
[10:26] <Habbie> p0ssum, if you're lucky it means you have all your files but they no longer have useful names
[10:26] <p0ssum> Habbie: alright finished, 14GB
[10:26] <shiftplusone> How did you manage that anyway? Yanked the power out without shutting down?
[10:27] <Habbie> i have to go, good luck
[10:27] <p0ssum> wow thats weird
[10:27] <p0ssum> so how would i find my files O.o
[10:27] <p0ssum> thx Habbie
[10:27] <p0ssum> shiftplusone: i dont know
[10:27] <Habbie> shiftplusone, i stand by the view that even if that causes such breakage, that's an actual bug in linux or the pi
[10:27] <p0ssum> shiftplusone: my brother was using it
[10:27] <Habbie> shiftplusone, (or the SD)
[10:27] <p0ssum> damn gonna beat him up if he pulled the plug
[10:27] <shiftplusone> Do you have some specific files you would like to recover?
[10:27] <Nefarious___> I always pull the power out :3 I guess I should stop
[10:28] <p0ssum> shiftplusone: yeah some
[10:28] <Habbie> p0ssum, don't - he couldn't know that was bad; there is no good reason it would be bad
[10:28] <shiftplusone> what file type are they?
[10:28] <p0ssum> Habbie: true, it shouldnt fmess things up like THAT
[10:28] <ShorTie> it all depends on if files are open the moment the power goes out
[10:28] <p0ssum> shiftplusone: php
[10:28] <p0ssum> shiftplusone: ALL my files are gone though
[10:28] <p0ssum> i see nothing
[10:28] <p0ssum> only "lost+found"
[10:28] <p0ssum> with numeric subfolders
[10:29] <shiftplusone> inside the lost and found, you should see files with random file names
[10:29] <p0ssum> yes
[10:29] <Habbie> numeric folders could actually be a win - perhaps only your / got busted
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[10:29] <Habbie> (really gone now)
[10:29] <p0ssum> millions of those shiftplusone
[10:29] <shiftplusone> yeah, those are your files... I'll leave it to your imagination how you will find the php files you're after.
[10:29] <shiftplusone> some 'find' and 'file' magic might help
[10:29] <p0ssum> shiftplusone: is there no way to recover the folder and file names?
[10:30] <p0ssum> oh guys!
[10:30] <ShorTie> grep might help if you know a string in the file
[10:30] <p0ssum> looks like in the numeric subfolders most filenames are still intact
[10:30] <p0ssum> nice
[10:30] <p0ssum> at least that
[10:30] <shiftplusone> yay
[10:30] <p0ssum> YAY
[10:30] <p0ssum> that saves much
[10:30] <shiftplusone> lucky
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[10:31] <p0ssum> so basically i need a new sd card right?
[10:31] <p0ssum> actually i was getting fs errors for months
[10:31] <shiftplusone> you can use the same card
[10:31] <p0ssum> but still booted so far
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[10:31] <shiftplusone> just overwrite a new image
[10:31] <p0ssum> dont you think the card is physically damaged?
[10:31] <shiftplusone> It's possible, but I don't think so.
[10:31] <p0ssum> i was getting corrupted files occasionally already
[10:32] <shiftplusone> The pi is prone to corrupting some sd cards which are sensitive to timing problems
[10:32] <p0ssum> its a transcend
[10:32] <p0ssum> class 10
[10:32] <p0ssum> can you recommed a card?
[10:32] <shiftplusone> There is a patch in the 'next' firmware branch which uses the GPU clock rather than the CPU clock to help fix that (or something like that)
[10:32] <p0ssum> good
[10:33] <shiftplusone> So I would hang onto the card and see the outcome of that 'fix'
[10:34] <p0ssum> ok
[10:34] <p0ssum> but can you recommed a card?
[10:34] <shiftplusone> nope
[10:35] <shiftplusone> Just because one batch of a certain card works fine does not mean the next will, since they tend to change firmware and such and still keep the same branding. (Or so the word on the street is)
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[10:38] <p0ssum> ok
[10:38] <p0ssum> tru
[10:38] <p0ssum> true
[10:38] <shiftplusone> are you overclocking at all?
[10:38] <p0ssum> yeah
[10:38] <p0ssum> dont remember how much
[10:38] <shiftplusone> well... that might be your problem
[10:39] <p0ssum> hm maybe
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[10:39] <ShorTie> that don't help
[10:39] <p0ssum> let me check
[10:39] <p0ssum> where is it specified again? some config file
[10:39] <p0ssum> on the fat partition?
[10:39] <shiftplusone> config.txt on the first partition
[10:39] <p0ssum> oh got it
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[10:40] <p0ssum> arm_freq=800
[10:40] <p0ssum> force_turbo=0
[10:40] <p0ssum> initial_turbo=60
[10:40] <p0ssum> temp_limit=70
[10:40] <p0ssum> over_voltage=6
[10:40] <p0ssum> over_voltage_min=0
[10:40] <p0ssum> arm_freq_min=500
[10:40] <p0ssum> core_freq=450
[10:40] <p0ssum> core_freq_min=250
[10:40] <p0ssum> h264_freq=450
[10:40] <p0ssum> sdram_freq=450
[10:40] <p0ssum> sdram_freq_min=400
[10:40] <p0ssum> what do you think?
[10:40] <shiftplusone> I think get rid of all of that
[10:41] <p0ssum> is it very overclocked?
[10:41] <shiftplusone> I don't remember what the defaults are, so I don't know
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[10:41] <shiftplusone> check the rpiconfig article on elinux
[10:41] <p0ssum> i think i needed it because video display ws too slow or something
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[10:42] <shiftplusone> god, the kernel takes forever to build with the foundation .config file
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[10:45] <shiftplusone> seems like they decided to just include all the things so that people don't complain about stuff missing.
[10:46] <Tachyon`> lol
[10:46] <Tachyon`> does the pi use an initrd?
[10:46] <gcds> shiftplusone: I know that feel bro :) I had been working with beaglebone but for some reason it stopped working after 1.5h year laying on the shelf
[10:46] <shiftplusone> it can, but none of the distros do that I know of
[10:46] <Tachyon`> ah, hrm
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[10:46] <gcds> so i took raspberry from friend and was trying to make it work
[10:47] <shiftplusone> I think noobs runs off initrd and so does hifi's installer.
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[10:48] <Tachyon`> 900MHz is always safe aye? (gave a pi to a friend yesterday and left it set to that)
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[10:48] <shiftplusone> Don't know about 'always', but yeah.
[10:48] <shiftplusone> Some people are not able to overclock at all
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[10:55] <shiftplusone> gcds, almost there, I think.
[10:55] <gcds> nice :P
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[11:02] <shiftplusone> uploading
[11:03] <gcds> nice!!!!
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[11:06] <shiftplusone> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/175702/gcds.tar.xz the module you were after is already in lib/modules/3.6.11+/extra/eveusb.ko
[11:07] <shiftplusone> let me know how it goes
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[11:10] <gcds> THANKS MAN!!! I will now try only the module and then try to replace kernel :)
[11:11] <gcds> MAN ITS WORKING!!!!
[11:11] <gcds> GOD
[11:11] <gcds> I LVOE YOU
[11:11] <gcds> I WILL REMEMBER YOU FOREVER
[11:12] <shiftplusone> A little over the top, but you're welcome.
[11:12] <gcds> AND IF YOU COME ONE DAY TO LITHUANIA MY HOME IS YOUR HOME AND I OWE YOU A LOT OF BEER !!!
[11:12] <shiftplusone> lol
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[11:19] <mac-> helo
[11:19] <mac-> hello
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[11:20] <shiftplusone> helllo
[11:20] <mac-> any news about Wayland/Weston on RPi ?
[11:20] * shiftplusone shrugs
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[11:22] <mac-> hehe
[11:22] <mac-> it didn't sound good
[11:22] <mac-> :p
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[11:26] <clever> shiftplusone: have you heard much about device tree?
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[11:27] <shiftplusone> nope
[11:27] <clever> shiftplusone: right now, the kernel for the rpi, has to be compiled for the rpi directly
[11:27] <clever> with all of the gpu and usb stuff enabled
[11:27] <clever> and if i wanted to do something like add an mpr121 touch keypad, i have to write a custom kernel module, and compile it against the same kernel source, which becomes a pain to manage
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[11:28] <clever> with device tree, you simply compile a config file into a 'device tree blob', add it to a generic arm kernel, and it will work
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[11:35] <shiftplusone> is that a thing you can do yet?
[11:36] <clever> shiftplusone: yeah
[11:36] <clever> there is a driver already in the kernel, but its missing the keycode map, telling it what key is behind every sense element
[11:36] <shiftplusone> In a practical sense? For all modules? O_o
[11:36] <clever> it looks like it was designed to have a 2nd driver, that provides that
[11:37] <clever> platform specific data
[11:37] <clever> for example, if you make a cellphone with this cpu and an mpr121, you would make a custom driver to specify which element is the home key
[11:37] <clever> and then you have to compile everything from scratch
[11:37] <clever> but if device tree was in use, you dont have to recompile anything
[11:37] <shiftplusone> Sounds like it will be nice when it's widely used.
[11:38] <clever> yeah
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[11:38] <shiftplusone> do drivers need to be ported to this system or what?
[11:38] <clever> yeah
[11:38] <clever> right now, there is code that is hard-set to create an i2c bus upon bootup, at a given IO register
[11:39] <clever> so the i2c bus works on the pi, but who knows what will happen if you try to use this kernel on another device
[11:39] <clever> with device tree, there would be a node in the tree saying to make an i2c bus with driver X at addr Y
[11:39] <clever> and as leaves on that node, you would have things like the mpr121
[11:39] <clever> which specify its i2c address and keymap
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[11:41] <clever> if it was working, and you wanted to add an mpr121 to your system, you would only have to modify the device tree
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[11:41] <clever> rather then recompiling the entire kernel
[11:41] <clever> the only other option would be to hard-code the keys, so its always abcdefgh
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[11:44] <clever> shiftplusone: https://github.com/raspberrypi/linux/issues/381
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[11:45] <shiftplusone> none of that means anything to me
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[14:40] <Nefarious___> is there anywhere on the raspberry pi site that one could post a tutorial?
[14:41] <ShorTie> sure, in the forums
[14:42] <Nefarious___> I had a look, is there a specific tutorial section, because there isn't an option for one I believe
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[14:43] <ShorTie> just start a new thread under one of the main topic
[14:44] <Nefarious___> thanks :)
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[15:00] <alex88> hi guys, I've one of these 8 port relay board http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/ODAwWDgwMA==/z/p5QAAOxyoExSCJN6/$T2eC16J,!yME9s5qF3WPBSCJN58iqg~~60_35.JPG?set_id=8800005007 someone has the same one? how do you set the right jumper to have it working?
[15:01] <RiXtEr> alex88, I haven't seen one with the jumper before, but normally you'd supply the 5v (or 3.3) from your pi and ground back to your pi then use a GPIO on 1-8 to switch them on/off
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[15:02] <RiXtEr> alex88, what does the jumper say its for?
[15:02] <ShorTie> not getting any good words out of that picture, got a better decription ??
[15:03] <alex88> RiXtEr: gnd - vcc - jd/vcc
[15:03] <alex88> ShorTie: bought time ago, no ebay link anymore, going to search similar one, sec
[15:04] <RiXtEr> I am betting that is for an external power supply, but I am not 100% sure on that either.
[15:04] <alex88> ShorTie: RiXtEr: seems this one http://www.ebay.it/itm/8-Channel-Relay-Module-Board-5V-for-Arduino-Pic-Pi-etc-/161122921802?pt=UK_Computing_Other_Computing_Networking&hash=item2583acad4a
[15:05] <alex88> it has also the picture for what the jumper is for
[15:05] <RiXtEr> Just looked at my board and it has a jumper (by the 10 pins though) I think its for an external powersupply ground
[15:06] <alex88> mmhh problem is, if I connect 5v vcc, control the pins with 3.3 (afaik it should be the IN0 thing), I can short my pi?
[15:06] <RiXtEr> so you can use the hot/ground from the pi, gpio/ground to the pi and an external powersupply.
[15:07] <RiXtEr> alex88, I don't think so, you need your gpio pins in output mode, so it should only go one way.
[15:07] <alex88> from this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2B67hybdAA it says to connect vcc and jd-vcc, but that way I'll connect the 5v from vcc with the gpio pins from that scheme
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[15:07] <pksato> alex88: need a external power supply to relay module.
[15:07] <alex88> RiXtEr: ok gpio connected to the control pins, and into vcc what? 5v external power supply?
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[15:08] <alex88> pksato: look at the vid, it says to use the rpi 5v to vcc, just I don't get how can the rpi be safe connecting 5v vcc
[15:08] <pksato> remove power jumper, and connect psu to jd-vcc and GND.
[15:08] <RiXtEr> alex88, that would work, but pull your jumper and hit put a ground from one of those pins (gnd) back to your pi
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[15:09] <RiXtEr> alex88, ^^ what pksato said :)
[15:09] <pksato> I not sure id is jd-vcc.
[15:09] <alex88> pksato: what on vcc? nothing?
[15:09] <pksato> Dont use power from USB.
[15:09] <pksato> from RPI.
[15:09] <pksato> have high resolution photo?
[15:09] <alex88> damn I don't have anything else to power it
[15:09] <alex88> pksato: of board?
[15:10] <pksato> yes
[15:10] <alex88> give me a sec
[15:10] <RiXtEr> have a 110v AC - 5v DC adapter and an old usb cable you can cut?
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[15:11] <Orpheon> Hello, I'm searching for a certain kind of chip. I want to extend the number of output/input GPIO pins by using combinations, is there anything on the market that allows me to do this?
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[15:12] <alex88> pksato: uploading pic
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[15:12] <pksato> Yes, remove yellow jumper and connect external PSU to GND and JD-VCC.
[15:13] <pksato> On 10pin header, connect VCC to RPI 3v3 pin gpio header.
[15:14] <alex88> pksato: can you please also explain why rpi 5v aren't enough?
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[15:14] <alex88> ok about the vcc, got it
[15:14] <pksato> pin 1 is 3v3
[15:14] <RiXtEr> alex88, they pull to much power... it will make your pi reboot if it drops too low.
[15:14] <alex88> pksato: both gpio for vcc and control in output mode?
[15:14] <pksato> RPi is a 3v3 device. this module is 5v. It can damange RPi.
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[15:15] <alex88> so as I was saying the vcc shouldn't be 5v as the control pin is 3.3
[15:15] <pksato> and GND to GND (pin 6 on hpio)
[15:16] <alex88> pksato: wait, you said gnd on psu
[15:16] <alex88> not rpi
[15:16] <pksato> alex88: this modules is disigned to work with arduinos.
[15:16] <ShorTie> don't know if i agree with that seeing as the rPi gpio is just driving a opto-coupler
[15:16] <pksato> and, use low level to activate relay.
[15:17] <alex88> pksato: ok, about the gnd, psu or rpi?
[15:17] <RiXtEr> pksato, yeah I can drive up to 3 before my pi dies, and that is using the 5v on the pi header to power it.
[15:17] <alex88> pksato: http://i.imgur.com/mM5Kq3n.jpg
[15:17] <pksato> Its means that logic is inverted, need to set to 1 to off and zero to ON.
[15:17] <alex88> hope that's clear enough
[15:17] <alex88> RiXtEr: you use a similar board too?
[15:18] <RiXtEr> let me find a pic of mine.
[15:18] <pksato> Can use same PSU of RPi, but, dont get it from GPIO header, get direct from PSU.
[15:19] <pksato> to power relay modules, remove jumper and connect to GND and JD-VCC.
[15:20] <pksato> power direct from PSU or other PSU.
[15:20] <RiXtEr> alex88, http://www.ebay.com/itm/290802137743?ru=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fsch%2Fi.html%3F_sacat%3D0%26_from%3DR40%26_nkw%3D290802137743%26_rdc%3D1
[15:21] <RiXtEr> man thats an ugly url...
[15:21] <pksato> connection to rpi is done connecting module VCC to RPI 3v3, not realy need to connect GNDs.
[15:21] <alex88> pksato: ok got it!
[15:21] <alex88> let me try
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[15:21] <pksato> and GPIO pins to INs.
[15:21] <alex88> RiXtEr: and how you connect those? also jumper in position?
[15:21] <alex88> btw gonna try with psu
[15:22] <RiXtEr> alex88, I haven't done mine with an external PSU yet... but it shouldn't be hard... pull the jumper and connect on those pins.
[15:22] <alex88> RiXtEr: so you're using only rpi? can you please tell the connections?
[15:23] <pksato> and have a issue of these modules and RPi. 3v3 can not have 'power' to activate relays.
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[15:23] <RiXtEr> alex88, I wouldn't recommend it without the external power supply... after I light up more than 3 it kills my pi.
[15:24] <RiXtEr> (I did it just testing things)
[15:24] <ShorTie> ya, those relay coils suck the power up
[15:25] <alex88> RiXtEr: not going to power more than 1 actually
[15:25] <Orpheon> Hello, I have a certain number of DC outputs I can control, and I'm searching for something that will allow me to use combinations of them to represent extra outputs. Does anyone know the name/a certain chip that allows this?
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[15:25] <pksato> 8 relay draw 500mA or more.
[15:25] <Orpheon> (DC outputs being the RPi GPIO pins)
[15:27] <alex88> here says each one requests 15-20mA
[15:28] <pksato> relay coil need 72mA@5V
[15:28] <ShorTie> that is what is drawn from the gpio pin, not the relay coil it's self
[15:28] <pksato> but, frm GPIO have a opto-coupler to isolate.
[15:29] <pksato> opto-coupler input of these devices are poor disigned.
[15:30] <alex88> should I shutdown rpi when connecting right?
[15:30] <RiXtEr> alex88, here is the code i used... i had a pushbutton switch attached to gpio 2, then I had gpio3 and 4 connected to 1 and 2 on the relay board... http://paste.ubuntu.com/6394048/
[15:30] <ShorTie> it's best
[15:31] <RiXtEr> alex88, yeah I'd pull the power to it when messing with the pins... one 'oops' and your pi no longer works ;)
[15:32] <ShorTie> i'd 'shutdown now -h' then pull the power to save my file system
[15:32] <RiXtEr> ShorTie, or just halt :)
[15:32] <ShorTie> which is just a short cut
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[15:33] <alex88> thanks RiXtEr!
[15:33] <alex88> and ShorTie too ;)
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[15:50] <strk> is it ok to use a 5.1V phone charger for input ?
[15:50] <fugutive221> No
[15:50] <fugutive221> it should be 5.0
[15:50] <strk> :'(
[15:50] <Nefarious___> doubt It'd make a difference
[15:50] <fugutive221> You could try, but you might scr*w up your Raspberry Pi
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[15:51] <pksato> 5.1V are OK.
[15:51] <Nefarious___> I would think it's the current that's more important
[15:51] <fugutive221> Ok sorry, my stupid assumption
[15:51] * strk finds a 5.0V one \o/
[15:52] <fugutive221> How much ampere?
[15:52] <Nefarious___> use the 5.1v one. within the limited range, it provides more push
[15:52] <strk> .7
[15:53] <ParkerR> fugutive221, afaik screw isn't a bad word
[15:53] <fugutive221> ParkerR Ok, thanks
[15:53] <alex88> RiXtEr: any difference for which gpio port number used for controlling relays?
[15:54] <strk> I'll start with the 5.0V, if I need more risk I'll use the 5.1 :)
[15:55] <fugutive221> strk You might encounter power issues on USB port with 0.7 (if I'm right)
[15:55] <strk> both provide 0.7A
[15:55] <strk> 0.7 is what the manual asks for
[15:55] <strk> I'll only use network for a start anyway
[15:55] <fugutive221> So you have model A?
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[15:55] <strk> B
[15:55] <strk> Raspberry Pi B
[15:56] <fugutive221> Ok
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[15:56] <ParkerR> It should be fine for just a networked connected Pi
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[15:56] <ParkerR> It would start to run into issues with USB devices
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[15:56] <Nefarious___> strk, fugitive221 mine is 0.5 Amps and works perfectly
[15:56] <Nefarious___> no prob
[15:56] <strk> ah, onw I see 500-700 for A and 700-1200 for B
[15:56] <fugutive221> Ok new experience to me
[15:57] <fugutive221> Nefarious___
[15:57] <RiXtEr> alex88, nope.
[15:57] <Nefarious___> oh, I should step mine up them :P
[15:57] <Nefarious___> then*
[15:57] <strk> Nefarious___: what about Volt ?
[15:57] <ParkerR> 5.0
[15:57] <Nefarious___> strk: 0.5
[15:57] <Nefarious___> 5*
[15:57] <Nefarious___> lol
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[15:58] <Nefarious___> I just use a Motorola charger. it charged my nexus really fast so I just use that for the pi
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[15:59] <alex88> RiXtEr: ok thanks!
[15:59] <RiXtEr> alex88, on the code I posted, you can tear out all the pushbutton stuff..
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[16:01] <alex88> RiXtEr: well, on in1-2 led turns on but no click, on in3 it works :S
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[16:02] <RiXtEr> alex88, so the lines that turn on or off the actual relay are 27 (off) and 32 (on)
[16:02] * strk at his first power up
[16:02] <strk> hdmi->vga, network, audio out and charger
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[16:03] <Nefarious___> works?
[16:03] <strk> nothing on screen, all leds on
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[16:03] <strk> except Act which blinked some andnow is off
[16:03] <strk> will try to find it on the net
[16:03] <Nefarious___> you did write an image onto the sd card didn't you?
[16:03] <strk> will it answer to ping?
[16:04] <strk> it came with a pre-written card, with squeeze
[16:04] <RiXtEr> strk, the act is supposed to blink
[16:04] <strk> was a prize
[16:04] <Nefarious___> ah
[16:04] <strk> act did blink, just finished, probably boot completed
[16:04] <RiXtEr> strk, hdmi->vga could be a problem.
[16:04] <strk> FDX and LNK are both green
[16:04] <Nefarious___> try HDMI to HDMI
[16:04] <strk> 100 is yellow (is it network speed?)
[16:04] <Nefarious___> if you have a HDMI monitor
[16:04] <strk> I don't have an HDMI monitor
[16:04] <Nefarious___> oh. TV?
[16:05] <Nefarious___> mine came with SSH on. try SSHing in
[16:05] <fugutive221> strk What OS are you running?
[16:05] <strk> I'm in !
[16:05] <fugutive221> Nice :)
[16:05] <strk> :D
[16:05] <strk> Linux raspberrypi 3.6.11+ #538 PREEMPT Fri Aug 30 20:42:08 BST 2013 armv6l
[16:06] <strk> NOTICE: the software on this Raspberry Pi has not been fully configured. Please run 'sudo raspi-config'
[16:06] <fugutive221> That's pretty normal
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[16:08] <Nefarious___> you might want to set time zone etc.
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[16:08] <Nefarious___> sudo dpkg-reconfigure tzdata
[16:08] <Nefarious___> (?)
[16:08] <alex88> RiXtEr: yeah checked that, I'm just not getting why some relay works others doesn't maybe they're not equally sensible
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[16:10] <RiXtEr> alex88, thats interesting... an external power supply may fix that... (or sometimes the main's will add just enough extra to make it work properly)
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[16:10] <alex88> RiXtEr: yup going to search an usb cable I remember I've disassembled time ago
[16:10] <Nefarious___> strk: what do plan on using it for?
[16:11] <strk> shutdown, for now:)
[16:11] <strk> seriously, not sure yet
[16:11] <Nefarious___> lol
[16:11] <strk> for a start I might benefit from a network printer
[16:11] <strk> then I'll see, ifit's powerful enough to see movies or help distributing compile or do buildbot or what
[16:11] <strk> time is always scarce for me :)
[16:11] <strk> thanks for now
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[16:11] <Nefarious___> yeah I guess that'd be useful :P
[16:11] <Nefarious___> np
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[16:13] <davor> anyone want to help name the parrot I'm getting?
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[16:13] <fugutive221> davor
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[16:14] <fugutive221> pitje
[16:14] <davor> no davor is my name
[16:14] <davor> piće means "a drink" in my language hehe
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[16:15] <hakr> Paulie the parrot.
[16:15] <hakr> Anything with a "P".
[16:18] <davor> hehe, good idea.
[16:18] <Nefarious___> Voladores springs to mind
[16:18] <davor> here's a picture at long last http://i.imgur.com/aAFnGAe.jpg
[16:18] <Nefarious___> I don't know why lol
[16:18] <davor> the one on the far right
[16:18] <davor> haha
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[16:19] <alex88> RiXtEr pksato: tried with an external psu, 4 works, 4 doesn't
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[16:22] <yang> I have the HDMI plug on my laptop, now I am wondering if there is a manual on using it to plug the RPI HDMI output to this port, and that I would see boot message on the laptop... ?
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[16:22] <Habbie> yang, most laptops do not support that
[16:22] <Habbie> yang, so check your laptop manual
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[16:28] <yang> ok
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[16:33] <yang> manual says HDMI Input = NO, HDMI Output = Yes
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[17:35] <CeilingKitten> There is an indiegogo fund trying to port ubuntu 12:04 - 14.04 to the pi ...
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[17:37] <SpeedEvil> http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/a-raspberry-pi-build-cluster-for-ubuntu you mean?
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[17:40] <CeilingKitten> thats the one SpeedEvil
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[17:41] <CeilingKitten> They want to raise funds for a cluster, so they can attempt to port the OS and all the packages
[17:42] <clever> cross compile would just be simpler and faster
[17:42] <clever> for most packages
[17:42] <SpeedEvil> Quite.
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[17:44] <SpeedEvil> http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/tellspec-what-s-in-your-food - run away!
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[17:45] <sney> it's generally debian (and maybe ubuntu too) policy to build packages on native hardware
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[17:45] <sney> but the raspbian developers use a cluster of more powerful armv6hf boards than the pi
[17:45] <clever> SpeedEvil: a mass spec can only give the relative ammounts of each atom, not what molecule they are assembled in
[17:45] <clever> but i have seen portal mass spec guns before
[17:46] <SpeedEvil> clever: Err - _not_ a mass spec
[17:46] <SpeedEvil> A spectrometer
[17:46] <clever> ah, entirely different
[17:46] <SpeedEvil> Also - a GC-MS can do both
[17:46] <SpeedEvil> to some degree.
[17:47] <clever> but those arent exactly portable
[17:48] <clever> and we dont ever see the bussiness end of that thing
[17:48] <clever> just people pointing it at food, or it sitting on a table
[17:48] <clever> feels like those car for sale ad's, where the other side is completely smashed in, lol
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[17:50] <SpeedEvil> clever: 'through plastic'
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[17:50] <CeilingKitten> The problem is you can point it at everything and be like poison, cancerous, *accidental press* heh my sandwich has the sand chemicals as this styrofoam plates *laughs awkwardly and proceeds to scan table, chair trash can*, then the whole though of eating healthy is lost and youa re on "that part of youtube" wondering how did i get here why am i scanning this
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[17:50] <clever> also, it mentions allergens
[17:51] <clever> scanning the outside of a sandwhich wont tell you if somebody dropped a peanut on the inside
[17:51] * CeilingKitten apologizes for all the spelling and grammar, new physical keyboard layout >.<
[17:51] <CeilingKitten> yeah really one micron to the left of the scanner is your doom!
[17:51] <clever> yeah
[17:51] <clever> it would only be 100% accurate if you blend the sandwhich up evenly, then scan the mush
[17:52] <clever> ok, who's going to eat it now?
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[17:59] <malcom2073> Will it blend??
[17:59] <malcom2073> (Your sandwhich)
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[18:00] <clever> malcom2073: that should be easy
[18:00] <clever> hard part is finding my blender...
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[18:00] <clever> havent seen it in years
[18:01] <malcom2073> Really? I use mine almost daily
[18:01] <clever> closest thing i can find is a juicer behind the beer, lol
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[18:02] <malcom2073> Lol juicers. First thing my kid asked when I got it: "Can we make celery juice?" Let me tell you... it's as nasty as it sounds.
[18:02] <clever> lol
[18:02] <SpeedEvil> Also I imagine hard to clean out
[18:03] <clever> just think of puttng peanuts in a juicer, lol
[18:04] <malcom2073> Lol
[18:04] <SpeedEvil> clever: blender works OK
[18:04] <SpeedEvil> In the right blender
[18:05] <clever> i have seen some teardowns of purely mechanical/optical spectrometers, near mirror and lense arrangement
[18:05] <biberao> yo
[18:05] <SpeedEvil> What do you think peanut oil is but peanut juice?
[18:05] <clever> SpeedEvil: yeah, but it would be more of a mess in a juicer, then a blender
[18:05] <clever> and harder to clean i would think
[18:05] <SpeedEvil> Likely.
[18:05] <SpeedEvil> I want a nice food processor chamber.
[18:06] <clever> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O21khzapt0Q
[18:06] <clever> Gas analyser teardown
[18:06] <SpeedEvil> .01-10000bar, -50-300C, steam/air/inert gas, with microwave and dielectric heating too.
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[18:07] <SpeedEvil> clever: seen the paramagnetic oxygen analyser?
[18:07] <clever> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LiywM0F_4eA Looking at a cheap green laser
[18:07] <SpeedEvil> (same channel)
[18:07] <clever> this one is also neat, using parts from the spectrum analyzer to analyzer a cheap laser
[18:07] <clever> SpeedEvil: i think so
[18:08] <SpeedEvil> - freeze drying, pascalisation - popping popcorn in a 'cannon' manner - ...
[18:08] <clever> he mentions how the green laser has a ton of leakage at non-visible wavelengths
[18:08] <clever> which the laser power meter is much more sensitive at
[18:08] <SpeedEvil> yeah - they tend to.
[18:09] <clever> he used the purely mechanical/optical spectrum part, to split the beam up, isolate part of it, and then measure each block of energy seperately
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[18:09] <clever> its just a long box with a mirror, prisim, and a wavelenght reading
[18:09] <clever> turn the knob, and the wavelenght counter moves with the mirror
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[18:13] <clever> SpeedEvil: http://youtu.be/LiywM0F_4eA?t=19m32s
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[18:14] <SpeedEvil> yeah - he has a lot of good stuff
[18:15] <gordonDrogon> afternoon...
[18:15] <clever> afternoon
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[18:16] <clever> SpeedEvil: the part at 21:20 is what i was talking about
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[18:17] <clever> and at 22:15, its weird to watch color change as he turns the knob
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[19:40] <clever> /dev/sdc1: UUID="6314509f-5bac-394d-8843-4a3ced8c5266" TYPE="hfsplus"
[19:40] <clever> what the h was i doing with this usb stick? lol
[19:42] <sney> something involving a mac, apparently
[19:42] <clever> oh, maybe it was the mac install stick i was using a month ago
[19:43] <clever> trying to install mac on a laptop
[19:43] <clever> that never worked right
[19:43] <clever> i'll just nuke it
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[20:48] <Baylink> Can you power a Pi *from a powered hub* that is plugged into it for data as well? If so, anyone got one they like?
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[20:51] <ShadowJK> hub upstream port into pi usb port, hub downstream port into pi microusb
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[21:02] <l_r> do anyone have the camera module?
[21:03] * LuisLeite good evening
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[21:15] <Slymatt1> Hello guys, could some of you help me with my thermistor! =l
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[21:16] <Slymatt1> Ive got a my 5v wire to my 10k resistor then my 15k thermistor connected to that, then connected to ground with anolog 0A connected between the resistor and thermistor but i dont seem to get output any ideas?
[21:17] <Slymatt1> im using the arduino to raspberry pi bridge shield btw
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[21:18] <Slymatt1> anyone?
[21:19] <Triffid_Hunter> Slymatt1: does this shield actually have an avr chip on it, or is it just a breakout for the rpi's pins?
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[21:22] <Slymatt1> its connects to the GPIO slot
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[21:23] <Triffid_Hunter> Slymatt1: well I don't think the rpi has any ADCs
[21:23] <Slymatt1> ADCs?
[21:24] <Triffid_Hunter> Slymatt1: ADC = analog to digital converter, allows to read voltages
[21:24] <Triffid_Hunter> which is what you need for thermistor
[21:24] <Triffid_Hunter> afaik rpi doesn't have any, it can only talk to digital stuff
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[21:25] <Slymatt1> http://www.cooking-hacks.com/documentation/tutorials/raspberry-pi-to-arduino-shields-connection-bridge this is the shield and apparatly it can it has analog pins
[21:25] <Slymatt1> Connect any sensor (analog 0-5V, digital) to Raspberry Pi with a precession of 16b using the ADC integrated. Connect also complex sensors through i2C and UART buses
[21:26] <Triffid_Hunter> Slymatt1: ah, it has an i2c ADC on the shield.
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[21:26] <Triffid_Hunter> only 12 bits, not 16
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[21:27] <Slymatt1> The guide im using says it should work to, but im unsure why im not getting a output haha
[21:28] <Slymatt1> ive been over and over and over it and still cant work out whats wrong
[21:28] <Slymatt1> lol
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[21:29] <Slymatt1> Triffid_Hunter: is that setup right? 5v to 10k resistor to 15k thermistor to ground, between resistor and thermistor analog connector?
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[21:30] <Triffid_Hunter> Slymatt1: yep
[21:30] <Slymatt1> so it must be the code?
[21:30] <Triffid_Hunter> Slymatt1: have you tried the i2c example in their ardupi library?
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[21:31] <Slymatt1> where do i find that
[21:31] <Triffid_Hunter> Slymatt1: the link you posted
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[21:32] <Slymatt1> lol
[21:34] <Triffid_Hunter> Slymatt1: §4.1 has the links, §4.2-4.5 is install and setup. §6 is ADC usage. did *you* read your link before posting?
[21:34] <Slymatt1> nope i posted that to show you what shield i was using
[21:34] <Slymatt1> =P
[21:35] <Slymatt1> im using Raspberry Pi Home automation by andrew dennis
[21:35] <Slymatt1> i have had a light flashing from the board
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[21:36] <Slymatt1> not amazing ut shows that the board works
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[21:39] <Slymatt1> Triffid_Hunter: i use wire.begintransmission(8); wire.write(byte(0xDC));
[21:39] <Slymatt1> to use Analog 0
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[21:40] <amr> has anyone here ever used an edimax ew7811un with raspbmc?
[21:40] <amr> im struggling and im not too sure whats up... i installed the dongle and followed the install process to set up the wifi network (before flashing the sd card_
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[21:42] <amr> its pausing to buffer ever few seconds
[21:42] <amr> and if i leave it it pretty much disconnects and is unreachable via ssh, web or pinging
[21:43] <amr> i disabled power saving mode
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[21:51] <Slymatt1> Triffid_Hunter: ?
[21:52] <CeilingKitten> amr, you may have more luck in Sam Nazarko's Raspbmc forum (the creator)
[21:52] <amr> thanks L
[21:52] <amr> :)
[21:52] <Slymatt1> Im stressing over this now haha
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[21:52] <CeilingKitten> I believe a few of the edimax wifis are supposrted to some degree maybe it just needs a tweaking
[21:53] <sney> it's just a realtek 8188. they are average quality and usually fine for most traffic
[21:53] <Triffid_Hunter> Slymatt1: so you've done the first two lines of the example.. what are you expecting without the rest?
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[21:54] <Slymatt1> Triffid_Hunter: Ill pastebin my code =P
[21:55] <Slymatt1> Be much easier if you can see what ive done haha
[21:59] <Slymatt1> Triffid_Hunter: http://pastebin.com/sej1EDXg
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[22:01] <Triffid_Hunter> Slymatt1: well you end the transmission right after selecting the chip, of course it's not gonna work if you stop talking to it before reading any values
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[22:03] <Slymatt1> Triffid_Hunter what line?
[22:03] <Baylink> ShadowJK: Ok; so you can do that then?
[22:03] <Triffid_Hunter> Slymatt1: line 82, "Wire.endTransmission();"
[22:04] <Triffid_Hunter> Slymatt1: you really should just copy the example from the page you linked, get that working first, *then* make your own
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[22:04] <Slymatt1> Triffid_Hunter: that was how it said to do it in the guide
[22:05] <Slymatt1> Triffid_Hunter: this isnt my own this is from a published book =P
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[22:05] <Slymatt1> ill like the book and tell you the page =)
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[22:06] <Triffid_Hunter> *shrug* I'd be far more inclined to go with online source code which can be updated if someone finds an error, than something irreversibly cast into static print
[22:09] <Slymatt1> Triffid_Hunter: this should show on the correct page http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=kvdjhugNV7AC&pg=PT122&lpg=PT122&dq=andrew+k+dennis+home+automation+thermometer+not+working&source=bl&ots=h2EEXytDO5&sig=UH9W3H5MDvsAfpcC7W3WKJlhLVU&hl=en&sa=X&ei=UPV_Ur_VFOXP0QWVpYA4&ved=0CEQQ6AEwAg#v=snippet&q=endtransmission&f=false
[22:09] <Slymatt1> Anyhow sould that be at the end of the loop then?
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[22:10] <Triffid_Hunter> Slymatt1: no idea, I know nothing about this library
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[22:11] <Slymatt1> Triffid_Hunter: so that actually could be correct
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[22:12] <Triffid_Hunter> Slymatt1: could be, but until you try the example code on the page you linked we'll never know
[22:12] <SpeedEvil> Online source dies.
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[22:14] <[SySteM]> please, anyone got a link on amazon for a good battery for rpi ?
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[22:16] <SpeedEvil> For what purpose?
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[22:18] <olejl77> I want to use the RPi to create a time laps under low/no light condition. What could be used as a light source? I am thinking something similar to what is found on a smart phone
[22:19] <[SySteM]> SpeedEvil, max time with camera board and wifi dungle
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[22:19] <SpeedEvil> With no concern for weight or size?
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[22:20] <[SySteM]> smaller better =)
[22:20] <SpeedEvil> olehttp://www.amazon.co.uk/Lightning-Sensation-Blackberry-connectors-customized/dp/B0063AAIRG/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1384118325&sr=8-1&keywords=5V+power+battery
[22:20] <SpeedEvil> for example may work
[22:20] <Triffid_Hunter> [SySteM]: get a R/C lipo and a ubec from hobbyking or your favourite R/C supply store
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[22:21] <SpeedEvil> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/190646492545 plus http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LM2596-DC-7V-35V-to-DC-1-25V-30V-StepDown-Adjustable-Power-Supply-Module-LED-td-/350923446534?pt=UK_BOI_Electrical_Test_Measurement_Equipment_ET&hash=item51b4aad906
[22:21] <[SySteM]> is there a mha tout respect ?
[22:21] <SpeedEvil> LiPo bare are really hard to charge properly.
[22:22] <SpeedEvil> [SySteM]: mA * hours = mAh
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[22:22] <SpeedEvil> The Pi draws about 700mA tops.
[22:22] <[SySteM]> i see
[22:22] <SpeedEvil> This is 7000mAh in 10 hours - 7Ah
[22:22] <[SySteM]> thanks for your help
[22:22] <[SySteM]> and no problem to use usb
[22:22] <[SySteM]> ?
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[22:23] <ponA> hi guys
[22:23] <SpeedEvil> You then need to correct for voltage. - if the battery is 12V, not 5V, then the current is 5/12ths as large.
[22:23] <SpeedEvil> [SySteM]: Sure - see the comment on that 'USB battery' that someones using it for a pi
[22:23] <[SySteM]> ok :)
[22:23] <[SySteM]> another question =)
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[22:24] <[SySteM]> i showed looooots of projects with rpi
[22:24] <[SySteM]> try lots of them
[22:24] <[SySteM]> but.. i dont find any projects
[22:24] <[SySteM]> to use visio conference
[22:24] <SpeedEvil> What?
[22:24] <[SySteM]> with rpi and camera board
[22:24] <Slymatt1> Triffid_Hunter: So it should output what when i have run that?
[22:24] <[SySteM]> maybe by SIP or other protocol
[22:24] <[SySteM]> i anyone heard about this ?
[22:24] <[SySteM]> is anyone heard about this ?
[22:24] <SpeedEvil> Can you use it on linux?
[22:25] <SpeedEvil> If not - there is no hope.
[22:25] <[SySteM]> there is no problem is think
[22:25] <ponA> i am connected to a pi via ftp connection. I can see all the folders and files, but i am not able to write files to it. on my pi it works just fine, even if i use my external ip. how do i allow ftp connections which are not from the LAN?
[22:25] <[SySteM]> video conference work on android
[22:25] <[SySteM]> on ubuntu
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[22:26] <SpeedEvil> ponA: work out what ftp server is installed.
[22:26] <SpeedEvil> ponA: Configure it.
[22:26] <[SySteM]> ponA, try on sftp with your root account
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[22:26] <ponA> it is installed, but i have no idea how i configuted my ftp server
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[22:27] <Slymatt1> Triffid_Hunter: is it saying connect all analog pins to the 5V output?
[22:27] <SpeedEvil> Find out which server is installed - read the manual
[22:27] <ponA> ahh, root might be the problem! i have to overwrite a file and it belongs to root
[22:27] <ponA> i ll check that
[22:28] <[SySteM]> ponA, if you connect on sftp with your root account
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[22:29] <[SySteM]> you have full acess
[22:29] <[SySteM]> access *
[22:29] <ponA> ahh, nice, i did not know that it is possible to connect as root
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[22:31] <nid0> but frankly if you're connecting as root
[22:31] <nid0> just use scp and uninstall your ftp server.
[22:31] <SpeedEvil> http://www.smithsonianmag.com/video/How-Many-Times-Do-They-Pass-the-Ball.html - 1 minute fun exercise.
[22:32] <nid0> I don't believe anyone can honestly not spot that.
[22:32] <nid0> dunno if i'm just a wierdo but its completely alien to me that anyone could possibly miss it
[22:33] <SpeedEvil> Many, many, many people don't.
[22:33] <nid0> yes, I just cannot comprehend how
[22:33] <nid0> I mean, its blindingly obvious and right there in front of you
[22:33] <SpeedEvil> The brain is wierd, and different ones work different ways.
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[22:34] <SpeedEvil> I, for example cannot visualise shapes beyond the very simplest - triangle is as far as I can go
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[22:35] <SpeedEvil> I can hold the concept of a larger structure in my head, but I can't get anything resembling a visual image.
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[22:39] <clever> SpeedEvil: ive seen it before, so i knew what to look for
[22:39] <clever> my memory is the weird part :P
[22:40] <clever> i cant remember when the last time i had a shower was, but as soon as i saw the video, i knew there would be a gorilla
[22:41] <SpeedEvil> clever: yeah - it's easy once you've seen it
[22:41] <SpeedEvil> at least for that situation
[22:41] <SpeedEvil> you can clearly see the implication for stuff like driving
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[22:54] <Slymatt1> Trffid_Hunter: i seem to be getting
[22:54] <Slymatt1> Channel 0: digital value = 1317 analog value = 1.608059
[22:54] <Slymatt1> Triffid_Hunter: thats for the 2 pins i tested 0 and 3
[22:55] <azizLIGHTS> what do i do on raspi-config?
[22:55] <Triffid_Hunter> Slymatt1: sounds reasonable.. do you get the same value if you keep reading it over and over?
[22:55] <azizLIGHTS> what is "expand filesystem" "ensures that all of the SD card"
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[22:56] <spireal> hello
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[22:56] <sney> it expands the filesystem so it uses the whole SD card, rather than just the size of the decompressed image
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[22:57] <spireal> help me please my sdcard is full http://paste.ubuntu.com/6396368/
[22:58] <sney> spireal: 'apt-get clean' and delete/move data
[22:58] <Slymatt1> Triffid_Hunter: yes shouldnt i get channel 0 as 5.0000 as the example shows?
[22:58] <Triffid_Hunter> Slymatt1: only if you've hooked it to 5v
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[22:58] <topi`> hi. what packages do I need to crosscompile the raspberrypi kernel?
[22:58] <Slymatt1> Triffid_Hunter: i removed my resistors and hooked the analog 0 straight to 5v
[22:59] <topi`> I found emdebian project that provides crosscompiling packages. but I can't seem to find any for armhf!
[22:59] <ParkerR> topi`, What are you trying to compil;e on?
[22:59] <ParkerR> *compile
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[23:00] <spireal> sney, I do not have data
[23:00] <spireal> my sd card is 16gb
[23:00] <ParkerR> spireal, You have to expand the rootfs
[23:01] <topi`> ParkerR: an amd64 debian wheezy system
[23:01] <ParkerR> raspi-config can do it
[23:01] <topi`> hmm
[23:01] <topi`> apt-cache search raspi gives me nothing
[23:01] <spireal> how
[23:01] <ParkerR> topi`, Not you
[23:01] <topi`> sorry
[23:01] <ParkerR> spireal, just run raspi-config
[23:01] <topi`> damn, debian *must* have some easy way of crosscompiling the linux kernel
[23:02] <topi`> the raspberry pi pages just link to the elinux.org pages which, in turn, link to emdebian
[23:03] <ParkerR> http://elinux.org/RPi_Kernel_Compilation
[23:03] <chithead> if you have a cross compiler, you just pass ARCH=arm CROSS_COMPILE=yourcrosscompiler to the kernel's make
[23:03] <topi`> yeah, I was reading that
[23:03] <topi`> chithead: first, I *need* to get a cross compiler .deb installed
[23:03] <ParkerR> http://marks-space.com/2012/11/26/how-to-cross-compile-the-kernel-for-the-raspberry-pi/
[23:03] <topi`> and would prefer to have something else than codesourcery, since the website is daunting to wade through
[23:04] <ParkerR> "-Install packages used for cross compiling on the Ubuntu box."
[23:04] <ParkerR> Should work on debian
[23:04] <Slymatt1> Triffid_Hunter: does this mean my board might be buggered?
[23:05] <topi`> ParkerR: a nice guide, however, the gcc-arm-linux-gnueabi package is not found on debian :(
[23:05] <topi`> this is sad.
[23:05] <spireal> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6396401/
[23:05] <spireal> 45%
[23:05] <Triffid_Hunter> Slymatt1: it's possible.. but I'd also try and find a friend locally who's a bit more savvy wrt electronics to check it out
[23:05] <topi`> well, maybe I'll grab the ubuntu sources, and just hand that over to dpkg-buildpackage
[23:06] <Slymatt1> Triffid_Hunter: none of my friends are very good with anything lol there all a bid dumb haha
[23:06] <spireal> why 45%
[23:06] <chithead> there is extensive information in the debian wiki how to install a cross toolchain
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[23:08] <ParkerR> spireal, Did you reboot?
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[23:08] <spireal> No. I do..
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[23:09] <Slymatt1> Triffid_Hunter: Ive just realised that i actually bought a knock off, a very good knock off but but im not sure it will do the same =S with the same code http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00FHRL4V0/ref=ox_ya_os_product
[23:10] <Triffid_Hunter> Slymatt1: well read the number off the ADC chip, and hit the datasheet
[23:11] <azizLIGHTS> i am having a wow moment. i have a $35 computer showing me a desktop screen
[23:11] <Slymatt1> Triffid_Hunter: What would that show me and what datasheet =P
[23:12] <spireal> ok ok thx ParkerR 14% now
[23:12] <ParkerR> azizLIGHTS, :)
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[23:12] <spireal> whence come the problem
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[23:12] <ParkerR> spireal, You most likely didnt see the initial setup screen
[23:12] <ParkerR> raspi-config gets run at first boot
[23:13] <spireal> ok
[23:13] <spireal> thx
[23:13] <Slymatt1> Triffid_Hunter: This is the datasheet but i dont know what its supposed to tell me other than it supports I2C http://cds.linear.com/docs/en/datasheet/2309fd.pdf
[23:13] <spireal> thank you very much
[23:14] <ParkerR> No problem
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[23:15] <Triffid_Hunter> Slymatt1: it tells you *everything* about the chip.. the "applications information" will be most useful to you since it discusses the data protocol
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[23:16] <Slymatt1> ye but if the analog points arent picking up 5v what does that mena?
[23:16] <Slymatt1> mean?*
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[23:16] <Triffid_Hunter> Slymatt1: either it's fried, hooked up wrong, or your code is wrong
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[23:18] <Slymatt1> i copied the example code and that didnt show anything so i connected the 5v direct to analog 0 and still nothing
[23:18] <Slymatt1> Triffid_Hunter: so probably fried?
[23:20] <Triffid_Hunter> Slymatt1: no idea, your lack of familiarity unfortunately makes any debugging you do questionable, hence my suggestion to find someone locally with more experience
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[23:22] <Slymatt1> Triffid_Hunter: if the example code didnt work surely that means broke?
[23:22] <spireal> why I do not see my usb key witch df -h
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[23:23] <clever> it will only be listed if you mount it
[23:23] <ParkerR> spireal, Is it mounted?
[23:23] <spireal> yes
[23:23] <topi`> I managed to get a cross compiler installed. How can I tell it's an armhf compiler and not an armel compiler?
[23:24] <clever> topi`: ....-gcc -dumpmachine
[23:24] <topi`> I did try to create a test program and compile it with the cross cc, and scp the binary over to my RPi, and it seems to run there. A good sign?
[23:24] <spireal> I believe yes
[23:24] <clever> clever@sakura ~ $ arm-linux-gnueabi-gcc -dumpmachine
[23:24] <clever> arm-linux-gnueabi
[23:24] <clever> topi`: in my case, the machine code is right in the filename, lol
[23:25] <clever> i know the one above does work for rpi kernel compiles
[23:25] <topi`> -dumpmachine says arm-linux-gnueabi
[23:25] <clever> should be fine then
[23:25] <ParkerR> Good
[23:25] <spireal> ParkerR, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6396500/
[23:26] <topi`> ok, I'll try to copmile the kernel. Is it enough to just compile it, build/install modules into /lib/modules and then replace kernel.img with the new one?
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[23:26] <topi`> there's a kernel.img in /boot
[23:26] <clever> yeah
[23:26] <ParkerR> spireal, Then the USB drive isnt mounted
[23:27] <spireal> ha ?
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[23:27] <Slymatt1> Triffid_Hunter: Digital 2 to LED to ground works =S
[23:27] <ParkerR> sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt
[23:27] <Slymatt1> if thats any help =P
[23:27] <spireal> thx thx ParkerR Im noob ^pp
[23:28] <Triffid_Hunter> Slymatt1: "works"?
[23:28] <Slymatt1> Well my code makes it flash as its supposed to
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[23:28] <topi`> I'm cloning kernel from github.com/raspberrypi/linux.git, is this the "official" raspberry kernel?
[23:29] <topi`> I guess I cannot use the mainline kernel since the Broadcom gfx chip needs to be involved in setting up the linux boot
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[23:30] <Triffid_Hunter> Slymatt1: digital outputs aren't related to analog inputs
[23:30] <clever> topi`: yeah
[23:30] <clever> topi`: you can take your existing config from /proc/config.gz
[23:30] <chithead> mainline kernels work but are not fully featured. firmware is loaded into the videocore by the boot loader
[23:30] <topi`> clever: good idea.
[23:31] <clever> topi`: http://privatepaste.com/f1d7431c6e i set these variables when building my pi kernel
[23:31] <Slymatt1> Triffid_Hunter if i connected this flashing led to my analog 0 should it pick something up?
[23:31] <topi`> chithead: ok, so if I want to make sure HDMI is working, I'd better use this raspberrypi/linux.git
[23:31] <clever> the first 2 let the compile work correctly
[23:31] <clever> topi`: the last 2, tell 'make install' and 'make modules_install' where to put files
[23:31] <Triffid_Hunter> Slymatt1: yep
[23:31] <clever> thats an nfs share the pi can access
[23:32] <topi`> clever: yeah, cross compiler path is important :)
[23:32] <clever> but you could use the path to the sd card in your reader
[23:32] <clever> ive found that if you 'make menuconfig' without ARCH=arm, the config looks completely different
[23:32] <clever> because its trying to setup in x86 mode
[23:33] <azizLIGHTS> can i install a vnc server on pi?
[23:33] <ParkerR> Aye
[23:33] <topi`> damn, this linux.git repo is *huge*, only 20% so far and it's already 400 meg
[23:33] <ParkerR> x11vnc or tightvnc
[23:34] <ParkerR> Just as you would on any other debian OS
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[23:35] <azizLIGHTS> one question, it seems i have to connect wifi manually everytime i boot up with the gui utility on the desktop (rasbian), can i automate the wifi connection? if so, how?
[23:35] <hybr1d8> Instead of cloning the entire history of the git repo - try using '--depth 1' to do a shallow clone
[23:35] <Slymatt1> Triffid_Hunter: Nothing
[23:35] <topi`> hybr1d8: thanks for the hint
[23:36] <topi`> much, much faster!
[23:37] <topi`> there, it's done. now make config!
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[23:38] <clever> topi`: copy and unzip config.gz into .config, them menuconfig
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[23:42] <topi`> but my config.gz is from an old kernel (3.2. something)
[23:42] <topi`> maybe that doesn't matter
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[23:46] <topi`> I noticed there's a kernel-emergency.img on /boot partition... how can I activate that (easily) if I screw up?
[23:47] <topi`> I understand I can still mount the SD on another machine, and swap the broken and the old kernel.imgs ...
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[23:53] <clever> topi`: you tie one of the gpio to ground
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[23:55] <gordonDrogon> it's one if the 2 I2C lines you need to tie to ground IIRC.
[23:55] <clever> i forget which one
[23:56] <clever> maybe SCL, the one directly oposite gnd, i think
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[23:57] <clever> topi`: the same gpio pin also functions as a reset from halt, so if you 'shutdown -h now', you can restart the system
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[23:58] <clever> i was using halt, yank card, update, insertcard, gnd gpio
[23:58] <clever> without removing power
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[23:59] <Cheekio> haha, I tried #rasberry-pi and #raspi, then I had to look it up

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