#raspberrypi IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2013-11-22

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[0:48] <azizLIGHTS> if i add another user, and want to start x as him, will it run the same desktop manager and window manager and such as user pi?
[0:48] <azizLIGHTS> sorry, i should ask this in raspbian
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[0:53] <Vialas_Air> hi everyone
[0:53] <Vialas_Air> hwo are you all?
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[0:55] * sney waves
[0:56] <saedelaere> I am trying to cross compile some software that uses the header <linux/i2c-dev.h>. the problem is on my pi this compiles fine but on my normal linux I get for example: i2c_smbus_read_byte_data not defined in this scope
[0:56] <saedelaere> really strange
[0:56] <Vialas_Air> hows it gong saedelaere
[0:56] <Vialas_Air> doh hows it going sney
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[0:57] <sney> ok
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[1:41] <TheCommieDuck> Sup.
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[1:42] <TheCommieDuck> Hopefully I can get a reasonably simple answer to a pretty vague question..but is a pi-only quadcopter/multicopter/flying THING viable?
[1:43] <TheCommieDuck> Given I now have a 2nd pi with little to do with it, I wanted to try something more interesting than yet another media centre or torrent box.
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[1:45] <sney> TheCommieDuck: probably. I don't know much about the robotics side of things, but it seems like a lot of people use them to control things
[1:45] <TheCommieDuck> Also since it seems that the arduino boards to control the things are $150+ alone (I know 0 of arduino, so idk why that's so expensive)
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[2:40] <clever> linuxstb: you there?
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[2:51] <ShorTie> mornin clever
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[2:53] <clever> ShorTie: morning
[2:53] <clever> ShorTie: still working on the h264 header now
[2:54] <Vialas_Air> hello everyone
[2:54] <Vialas_Air> im still not able to stop raspery pi from going to a blank screen
[2:54] <clever> Vialas_Air: in x or console?
[2:54] <Vialas_Air> i dont understand wh this is a thing :(
[2:54] <Vialas_Air> in x
[2:54] <Vialas_Air> hi clever btw :D
[2:54] <clever> did you try xset -dpms?
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[3:00] <skiddex> just ordered version b - what is best os to use for linux user?
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[3:02] <plugwash> do you have any previous experiance with any particular linux distro?
[3:02] <ShorTie> most use raspbian
[3:02] <skiddex> yep debian
[3:02] <skiddex> i am savvy enough on cli
[3:03] <plugwash> use raspbian, it's both the most widely supported distro on the Pi and a close derivative of debian
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[3:03] <skiddex> yep d'lded it already thanks for your suggestion
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[3:08] <Vialas_Air> yes i tried that clever
[3:09] <Vialas_Air> well i think i did
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[7:16] <Vialas> hey all
[7:16] <Vialas> how you going?
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[7:16] <Vialas> anyone around?
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[7:53] <thirtythreeforty> Question. Can someone running Raspbian hand me a link to the wolfram-engine package? I'm running Arch, there's no package for Arch, and I can't find it in the Raspbian package archive.
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[10:11] <cian1500ww> Hey guys, is anyone using duckdns having problems at the moment?
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[10:14] <ShorTie> The requested URL "duckdns.org" cannot be found or is not available.
[10:14] <ShorTie> might be down right now
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[10:27] <cian1500ww> ShorTie: Looks like it, good to know it's not just me. Thanks!
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[10:28] <KebabBob> I have a pi that's somewhat unstable, i.e. stays up for a few days but then gets unresponsive. Is there some way for me to power cycle it automatically, f.e. if it isn't sending a pulse over serial or something like that?
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[10:29] <KebabBob> f.e. if I had a small arduino connected to it, and the arduino expects a pulse every few minutes. If no pulse is received, the pi is power cycled?
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[10:31] <ShorTie> unresponsive, like how ??
[10:32] <ShorTie> does the keyboard work ??
[10:33] <torkelatgenet> Does somebody have a link to the wolfram-engine package?
[10:35] <ShorTie> google.com, hehe
[10:35] <ShorTie> or you mean more like http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/5282
[10:36] <KebabBob> ShorTie, it's a pi I don't have physical access to
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[10:36] <KebabBob> It's probably not just the network because I have a bash script in cron that checks for that
[10:37] <napos> KebabBob, cron reboot every night?
[10:37] <KebabBob> I tried that, but it doesn't seem to be uptime related
[10:37] <KebabBob> so the pi may stay up for 10 days, or just 10 hours
[10:38] <KebabBob> When it stops responding, rebooting won't do anything
[10:38] <KebabBob> Because the pi isn't alive to reboot it self :)
[10:38] <ShorTie> whelp, most stability issues steam from power issues
[10:38] <torkelatgenet> Sorry, ShorTie I meant like an link to the actual package
[10:38] <KebabBob> Yeah I've checked the headers and got 4.9v
[10:38] <KebabBob> tp1 and tp1
[10:38] <KebabBob> tp2
[10:38] <KebabBob> I hooked the psu up to a scope and it's giving nice, clean power
[10:39] <KebabBob> as far as I can tell at least
[10:39] <ShorTie> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install wolfram-engine does not count ??
[10:39] <torkelatgenet> Does not work, unable to find package
[10:39] <torkelatgenet> Guessing i dont have the right repos.
[10:40] <ShorTie> after the update, did you do a upgrade ??
[10:40] <ShorTie> they should add that in there really
[10:40] <torkelatgenet> Not sure, i can do one now.
[10:41] <torkelatgenet> Should that matter anyways?
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[10:42] <ShorTie> it might
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[10:42] <torkelatgenet> [07:53:20] <thirtythreeforty> Question. Can someone running Raspbian hand me a link to the wolfram-engine package? I'm running Arch, there's no package for Arch, and I can't find it in the Raspbian package archive.
[10:42] <ShorTie> but it sortta looks like it has not got pushed thru yet, sorry
[10:43] <torkelatgenet> could you possible try to run apt-cache search wolfram-engine on your pi?
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[10:44] <ShorTie> id di, and it did not find it
[10:44] <kandinski> a good screenshot program for raspbian?
[10:44] <ShorTie> i did*
[10:44] <torkelatgenet> Ok
[10:46] <kandinski> shutter wants to bring on a lot of gnome and well, 44MB of archives. Can anyone recommend a smaller screenshot program?
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[11:19] <pingo> Hmm my r.pi appears to lose wifi connectivity randomly, is this a known issue? When I reboot it reconnects to the wifi just fine...
[11:19] <pingo> Sometimes after 30 minutes, sometimes after 12 hours
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[11:19] <ShorTie> ya they do that
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[11:20] <ShorTie> need a ping script that checks connectivity and re-connects if no ping
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[11:23] <pingo> hmm
[11:24] <Jusii> disable powersaving
[11:24] <Jusii> solved for me
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[11:25] <pingo> how do i do tat?
[11:25] <Jusii> something like iwconfig wlan0 power off
[11:25] <Jusii> is not permanent, but you can test with that
[11:25] <Jusii> iwconfig wlan0 should then say powersaving off
[11:27] <pingo> http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=46569&p=386668
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[11:37] <Coffe> Tnx guys that might have solved one of my problems
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[11:38] <mongrol> hi
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[11:45] <phlack> Hi, im having a strange issue, when I boot my pi with Openelec install I am gettin g the error:
[11:45] <phlack> lirc_rpi:auto-detected active high receiver on GPIO pin 18
[11:46] <phlack> can anyone help? I have nothing connected to the GPIO pins at all
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[11:47] <ShorTie> there is a #openelec channel
[11:48] <phlack> I thought it may be a problem with the pi, but thanks I will post in openelec
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[12:21] <LilSnoop4> hello, i have a question. one of my raspberry pi's disconnects when trying to connect to an addon or show. i have a wifi card and when i use my xbmc ios remote app i see it drop connection... i have tried reflashing the image, plugging the rpi into a usb port on my tv vs the power supply. will try another power supply today... any other ideas?
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[12:23] <ShorTie> a good usb powered hub
[12:23] <ShorTie> just a better/different power supply may not fix it
[12:25] <ShorTie> the rPi can only pass along so much current before it browns out
[12:26] <ShorTie> most wifi stuff push the limits of what the rPi can pass thru
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[12:29] <kilnaar> yeah, i did personally have problems when using a 500mA power supply that were resolved by going to a better one (allowed me to use wifi), but for any additional devices i had to go to powered hub
[12:31] <kilnaar> i think that 500mA power supply was goofy, though. even doing big compiles would cause ethernet to go down. my understanding is that the pi should be very happy at 500mA, but going to the 1A supply fixed it.
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[12:32] <ShorTie> they recommend 700ma, which is beyound the usb spec
[12:32] <kilnaar> ah
[12:32] <kilnaar> well that splains that:)
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[12:38] <LilSnoop4> whenever i build a rpi system i use a 2.1 power supply. i have made a bunch and this is the first one giving me this issue
[12:39] <LilSnoop4> and all of them run with the edimax wifi
[12:39] <ShorTie> what is a '2.1 power supply' ??
[12:40] <LilSnoop4> sorry i normally use this: http://www.amazon.com/AmazonBasics-Wall-Charger-Outlet-Output/dp/B005CG2ATQ/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1385120390&sr=1-1&keywords=amazon+2.1+power+supply
[12:40] <kilnaar> right, but i don't think the pi will draw the whole 2.1A
[12:40] <kilnaar> will it?
[12:40] <ShorTie> maybe it is a defective edimax wifi, does it follow the adapter or stay with the rPi
[12:41] <LilSnoop4> well i tried a different brand nano wif adapter i had laying around and i saw the same issue.
[12:41] <ShorTie> you could use a million amp power supply, the rPi will only use/pass so much on
[12:43] <LilSnoop4> i have been using that one there and haven't had any issues. is there a preferred one to use? i just order 1 of these to try this out should be here today: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00A9PO5AM/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i02?ie=UTF8&psc=1
[12:44] <ShorTie> how about a good usb powered hub instead ??
[12:44] <LilSnoop4> never used them on a build before. is that better then plugging the wifi directly into the rpi?
[12:45] <ShorTie> yes sir
[12:45] <LilSnoop4> is there one you would recommend i live in the use is there a link to one on amazon?
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[12:45] <LilSnoop4> us
[12:45] <ShorTie> this works nicely for me http://www.amazon.com/Rosewill-10-Port-High-Speed-RHB-500/dp/B004F38WT4
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[12:46] <ShorTie> but there are less expensive options out there
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[12:50] <LilSnoop4> hmmm is there just a 2-3 port option... would just need for the mouse for the intial wifi hook up the a spot of the wifi adapter. damn, will it run better with one of these? will it keep it cooler temp wise?
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[12:51] <LilSnoop4> i searched amazon for 2-3 port ones ill just read the reviews and pick one.
[12:52] <ShorTie> carefull with the cheapie's
[12:52] <ShorTie> they are more of a usb splitter then a true hub
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[12:53] <LilSnoop4> could you point me to a good not cheap on then
[12:53] <ShorTie> there are a few listed here http://elinux.org/RPi_VerifiedPeripherals#Powered_USB_Hubs
[12:53] <LilSnoop4> thanks
[12:53] <ShorTie> i'd sortta stay away from anything under 10 bucks
[12:54] <LilSnoop4> ok
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[12:56] <LilSnoop4> shortie so with the powered usb hub do you still need a power supply or the power for the hub will power the rpi?
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[12:58] <ShorTie> really depends on the hub, but most with a 2amp or greater supply will power both fine
[12:59] <ShorTie> a good hub will not back feed power to the rPi
[12:59] <ShorTie> so 2 usb cables are needed
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[13:05] <LilSnoop4> ok, well thanks for you knowledge i will try to locate one
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[13:24] <gimpy2938> Anyone familiar with Python's RPi.GPIO? I'm using the add_event_detect() method but it runs my function *twice* instead of once and I can't see why. http://dpaste.com/1478396/
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[13:35] <dreamer> hmmm, getting some strange behaviour. wanted to install a package, but during its setup the rootfs becomes read only
[13:35] <dreamer> after a reboot it's read-write again, but when I start dpkg --configure -a it become read only again
[13:36] <gimpy2938> What do the logs say?
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[13:37] <dreamer> [ 128.814632] EXT4-fs error (device mmcblk0p2): ext4_ext_check_inode:464: inode #160519: comm mandb: bad header/extent: invalid extent entries - magic f30a, entries 1, max 4(4), depth 4096(4096)
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[13:37] <dreamer> after that it remounts ro
[13:38] <gimpy2938> I would fsck it (while it is not mounted of course)
[13:38] <dreamer> should I do an fsck on another device?
[13:38] <dreamer> k
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[13:40] <dreamer> pfew, lots of stuff
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[13:43] <dreamer> at least it still boots
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[14:25] <clever> /usr/include/dbus-1.0/dbus/dbus.h:29:33: fatal error: dbus/dbus-arch-deps.h: No such file or directory
[14:25] <clever> why must omxplayer be so hard to compile?
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[14:28] <clever> ok, got past that bit
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[14:47] <ShorTie> i would think it is more of a debian thing and not like including the header files unless you install the dev packages
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[14:59] <m1sf1t_> Hi everyone :)
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[15:05] <m1sf1t_> So what ideas has everyone has with their raspberry pis? Anything cool and unique? Mine's not that original, i've got an apache server with a cloud storage web app called pydio http://pyd.io, a samba server, and an SSH server :)
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[15:06] <steve_rox> thinking of cool new projects can drive one insane
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[15:07] <m1sf1t_> haha yeah, and then finding the time and money to make it happen is just frustrating!
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[15:08] <steve_rox> yeah :-)
[15:08] <steve_rox> i put my rpi into a project box with lcd in it , trying to make it like a all purpose design for many projects
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[15:10] <m1sf1t_> oh that's cool, maybe some sort of API, instead of being scripted to just read tweets or something?
[15:11] <steve_rox> i dont use social websites ;-)
[15:11] <steve_rox> alough google forced me onto one which i dont use
[15:12] <m1sf1t_> me neither, it's full of pregnant teens posting pictures of ultra sound scans :/ not interested lol
[15:12] <steve_rox> hahaha
[15:12] <m1sf1t_> i have a business which has facebook and twitter though, just for marketing's sake
[15:13] <steve_rox> seems most businesses have to have that these days
[15:13] <steve_rox> kinda sad ish
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[15:15] <m1sf1t_> yeah, i had an ad in the paper which just didn't return anything
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[15:15] <steve_rox> not sure ppl read papers anymore
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[15:15] <m1sf1t_> no point if you have a smartphone :D
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[15:16] <steve_rox> i dont have one
[15:16] <steve_rox> but when it comes to news papers i think of a perticular phrase "yesterdays news today"
[15:16] <m1sf1t_> yeah that's a good point
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[15:18] <steve_rox> the latest thing i purchased for the rpi is the IR camera
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[15:18] <m1sf1t_> is it any good? have you seen those quadcopters people have built? i want one!
[15:19] <m1sf1t_> they've attached cameras to the pi and flown it around
[15:19] <steve_rox> they are insanely expensive tho i think
[15:19] <steve_rox> the IR cam is kinda interesting
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[15:21] <m1sf1t_> thought of any uses for it? maybe something security related?
[15:21] <steve_rox> night vision is one project for it
[15:22] <steve_rox> i shone a high power ir source thu my hand and i could see veins and stuff
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[15:22] <steve_rox> not sure if its possible to see bones using that
[15:22] <m1sf1t_> wow!
[15:23] <m1sf1t_> i reckon maybe if you got the power level just right, it could indicate the silhouette of your bones?
[15:23] <steve_rox> im not sure
[15:24] <ReggieUK> I wonder if that increased power level would induce melanoma?
[15:24] <steve_rox> the ir source i was using was quite powerfull and i dident wanna risk eye damage so i dident do it too long
[15:24] <ReggieUK> or just burnt skin
[15:24] <m1sf1t_> i was thinking of health risks lol...
[15:25] <m1sf1t_> i wonder if they'll ever make a raspberry pi xray attachment haha
[15:25] <steve_rox> well the ir diode outputs 1w
[15:25] <steve_rox> devloping countrys would love that one
[15:25] <m1sf1t_> see what google says about the ir spectrum, and how it could maybe do something similar to xray
[15:26] <steve_rox> focused ir light does burn
[15:26] <IT_Sean> If you want to see bones, you would need an unsafe level of IR energy to do so with any reasonable clarity
[15:26] <m1sf1t_> let's do it... oj ;)
[15:27] <steve_rox> yea lets do it
[15:27] <m1sf1t_> haha xD
[15:28] <steve_rox> :-D
[15:28] <steve_rox> after the tests i shall probly find my hand changes the channels on tv's i walk by
[15:29] <m1sf1t_> that'd be awesome
[15:30] <steve_rox> i know in some conditions you can use ir to see thu ppl's clothes but thats a whole differnt department
[15:30] <m1sf1t_> haha, ok now this is a family channel lol ;)
[15:30] <steve_rox> exactly
[15:30] <steve_rox> haha
[15:30] <steve_rox> i ment it from a scientific perspective
[15:31] <m1sf1t_> of course
[15:31] <IT_Sean> ooooof course you did
[15:31] <IT_Sean> nothing to do with the cute girl that lives next door, aye?
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[15:31] <steve_rox> no wai :-P
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[15:33] <steve_rox> there are other uses for ir
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[15:34] <steve_rox> i do have a ir lazor pointer i built out of a cdrw drive years ago and that eluminates things somewhat well
[15:35] <m1sf1t_> do you have a cat? does it produce a red dot?
[15:35] <m1sf1t_> not the cat, the laser pointer
[15:35] <steve_rox> the ir pointer only shows a dull barely visible red dot
[15:36] <steve_rox> but in reality theres a lot more light there that can be seen
[15:36] <steve_rox> not the kinda pointer for cats
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[15:37] <steve_rox> the ir cam can see heat too but only near red hot
[15:37] <m1sf1t_> hmmm... trying to think of ideas
[15:38] <m1sf1t_> how abut an alarm that tells you if you've left the hob on?
[15:38] <Sonny_Jim> Don't realy need a Pi for that
[15:38] <Sonny_Jim> thermister, transistor + buzzer
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[15:40] <IT_Sean> m1sf1t_: I have a cat that produces a red dot
[15:40] <m1sf1t_> but then you'd have to deal with a buzzer ringing while you cooked. You'd need a timer
[15:40] <IT_Sean> it MAY have recently swallowed a laser pointer\
[15:41] <m1sf1t_> lmao :D
[15:41] <IT_Sean> poor thing keeps running in circles
[15:42] <m1sf1t_> haha :) i might tie a laser pointer to my cat's head, pointing to the ground in front of him...
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[15:47] <m1sf1t_> how about using your pi to send/receive infra red data? like using an all in one remote to control raspbmc?
[15:48] <IT_Sean> TCPoIR
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[15:48] <m1sf1t_> never heard of TCPoIR, but it pretty much explains itself :) do tv remote controls use that protocol too?
[15:49] <SpeedEvil> No
[15:49] <SpeedEvil> They use much, muych simpler unidirectional protocols
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[15:50] <m1sf1t_> i thought as much, i'd imagin TCP to be a bit overkill
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[15:53] <IT_Sean> I was just suggesting that getting two raspis to communicate via TCP over IR would be an interesting project
[15:53] <m1sf1t_> it would :)
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[15:53] <clever> in theory, you could just wire up a 555 timer to give a 40khz carrier wave
[15:53] <clever> and then use the uart output to turn that carrier wave on/off and feed an LED
[15:54] <clever> at the far end, a normal ir receiver chip will detect the carrier, and feed your uart rx pin
[15:54] <clever> assuming nobody uses a remote nearby, you now have a wireless com port
[15:54] <clever> pppd anybody? :D
[15:54] <torkelatgenet> Ive always wanted to make some kind of tcp over lazer.
[15:55] <Sonny_Jim> Well, that already happens with opto-couplers
[15:55] <clever> torkelatgenet: uart tx into a transistor, to dim/brighten the laser, dont shut it off fully, it wont like that
[15:55] <torkelatgenet> You could get pretty decent range, as long as both are on fixed points.
[15:55] <clever> then an opamp at the photo resistor to detect high and low levels, and convert it to ttl
[15:57] <torkelatgenet> I actually have most of whats needed, u gutted a cheap lazer pointer and i have a photoresistor, but wouldnt i need an ADC?
[15:57] <clever> thats what the opamp is for
[15:57] <clever> either an opamp or a few transistors
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[15:57] <clever> configure it so over a certain brightness, one of the transistors is fully on, and outputs 3.3v
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[15:57] <clever> and under a certain brightness, it goes to 0v
[15:57] <torkelatgenet> Ah, I have that. That could be a nice project when i have the time
[15:58] <clever> then just whack it into the uart
[15:58] <clever> the key part i read online, is that the laser doesnt like being turned on/off quickly
[15:58] <clever> so you need to dim it, cut the power in half but keep it lasing
[15:58] <m1sf1t_> yeah, it'd want a really low level that could be perceived as 0 or false
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[16:00] <clever> thats where you would just tune the far end to treat that dim level as 0
[16:00] <m1sf1t_> a really simple one, that wouldn't involve any data transmission would just be a trip laser
[16:01] <m1sf1t_> yeah :)
[16:02] <steve_rox> iam back
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[16:02] <m1sf1t_> steve_rox: we have a few ideas for your IR camera :)
[16:02] <torkelatgenet> I made a trip lazer with arduino once, that was fun, with buzzers and all that
[16:02] <SpeedEvil> clever: that isn't an issue at 'serial' speeds
[16:03] <steve_rox> the way i did lazor trip was a 5mw lazor and a LDR
[16:03] <clever> SpeedEvil: even 115200?
[16:04] <biberao> hi
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[16:04] <SpeedEvil> 115200 is really, really slow.
[16:05] <clever> and yet thats the highest speed some gear goes to, lol
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[16:05] <m1sf1t_> biberao: hey :)
[16:06] <clever> SpeedEvil: i'm one step closer to getting mplayer working right
[16:06] <SpeedEvil> :)
[16:06] <clever> ive verified that omxplayer uses the exact same header data to init the decoder
[16:06] <clever> yet it doesnt work at all in mplayer!
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[16:06] <biberao> sup
[16:06] <SpeedEvil> clever: Woo!
[16:06] <SpeedEvil> (somewhat)
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[16:07] <clever> now i need to fix the omxplayer build env
[16:07] <clever> it changes the gcc symlink to gcc-4.7, breaking mplayer
[16:09] <m1sf1t_> brb, in work, and I now actually have work to do!
[16:09] <steve_rox> have fun
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[16:10] <m1sf1t_> haha, i'm sure i'll have a ball!
[16:10] <steve_rox> :-D
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[16:19] <m1sf1t_> back :)
[16:19] <m1sf1t_> i work really hard...
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[16:19] <steve_rox> yay
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[16:27] <rihnapstor> guys I want to remote control gpio but by serving web services. so which one do you recommend? like json-rpc ? xml-rpc?.I am open to suggestions.
[16:27] <rihnapstor> *web service
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[16:32] <m1sf1t_> i'm not entirely sure, you'd need a way to execute scripts from the web. my first thoughts are PHP?
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[16:33] <pwillard> rihnapstor: Sounds like a job for node.js
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[16:35] <rihnapstor> pwillard: thumbs up for nodejs.but guys I want to do that in python. so far I have spend weeks researching on deployment stack
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[16:36] <m1sf1t_> does it have to be over a web interface?
[16:37] <m1sf1t_> could you execute the python code over SSH?
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[16:38] <rihnapstor> it will m1sf1t_. and that web interface will run on external machine and not on the same pi hardware
[16:39] <m1sf1t_> ah...
[16:39] <m1sf1t_> just a thought :D
[16:40] <rihnapstor> I was thinking of doing webUI and web service on pi.but thats not viable because it duplicates functionality
[16:40] <m1sf1t_> just googling about to see if i can find any example code :)
[16:41] <m1sf1t_> or anything in particular that could help
[16:42] * LuisLeite good afternoon
[16:43] <m1sf1t_>
[16:43] <rihnapstor> m1sf1t_: I am thinking of hosting the webUI app on openshift. but not confident whether it will work because for demonstration in my university I need access to NAT.which I am unlikely to get
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[16:47] <m1sf1t_> is openshift a website host? i've never heard of it
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[16:47] <m1sf1t_> and NAT as in network storage or address translation?
[16:48] <m1sf1t_> obviously you mean translation haha i'm thinking of NAS
[16:48] <m1sf1t_> or do you? ...
[16:48] <rihnapstor> m1sf1t_: openshift is Paas platform. vendor redhat inc
[16:49] <rihnapstor> they have free deployment service
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[16:50] <m1sf1t_> just reading about it now :)
[16:50] <rihnapstor> brb
[16:50] <rihnapstor> great:)
[16:50] <rihnapstor> nice:)
[16:50] <rihnapstor> have fun:)
[16:50] <rihnapstor> brb
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[16:52] <tpw_rules> what resources are there to learn to program ARM assembly? I'm experienced with a variety of other assembly languages but want to learn for ARM. I've only found the cambridge tutorial series but i want something that goes a bit deeper
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[16:54] <tpw_rules> specifically accessing the UART and SD card
[16:54] <shiftplusone> tpw_rules, look up dwelch on github, he has a lot of bare metal examples.
[16:55] <shiftplusone> don't know about tutorials though
[16:55] <shiftplusone> are you interested in bare metal of linux?
[16:55] <shiftplusone> *or
[16:55] <tpw_rules> nah, writing my own OS
[16:55] <tpw_rules> i want to construct a forth
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[16:55] <shiftplusone> you mean a millionth
[16:55] <shiftplusone> look up the osdev wiki as well
[16:56] <tpw_rules> aw come on, it'll be fun :)
[16:56] <shiftplusone> I am sure it will for a little while.
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[16:56] <shiftplusone> Oh, and look at dexos
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[16:57] <shiftplusone> there's also the bare metal section of the forum which should have a lot of good resources
[16:57] <shiftplusone> and a fair few riscos nuts, but they know their stuff when it comes to arm.
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[16:59] <tpw_rules> what do you have against learning?
[16:59] <shiftplusone> ?
[16:59] <shiftplusone> How the hell did you get that impression?
[16:59] <tpw_rules> you're all like "yeah, i'm sure it'll be /great/"
[16:59] <tpw_rules> sorry if that was offensive
[16:59] <Sonny_Jim> Erm
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[17:00] <tpw_rules> ah well, thanks for the resources. i'll start reading
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[17:00] <Sonny_Jim> Paranoia can be a heck of a thing
[17:00] <Nefarious___> shiftplusone: sorry. My Internet's been flickering an awful lot
[17:00] <shiftplusone> Nefarious___, not a problem for me.
[17:00] <shiftplusone> Must be annoying for you though >_<
[17:01] <Nefarious___> shiftplusone: nah I've been at school. (yes, I am a teenager)
[17:02] <shiftplusone> (I know)
[17:02] <Nefarious___> (I didn't know you knew)
[17:02] <shiftplusone> not that you've been at school.... I haven't been stalking you.
[17:02] <Nefarious___> I know :P
[17:02] <shiftplusone> whew >.>
[17:02] <shiftplusone> <.<
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[17:13] <gazzwi86> I'm having issues booting a script via forever on my RPi. I'm using nvm and trying to start via the init scripts or via the crontab with no luck
[17:13] <gazzwi86> has anyone got any suggestions? the script runs fine normally
[17:13] <groundnuty> is it possible to shring raspbery image on card?
[17:13] <groundnuty> I have it on 32GB cardn and wanted to clone it on 8
[17:14] <shiftplusone> groundnuty, I wouldn't try it on a running system, but you can do that with gparted from your PC.
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[17:18] <m1sf1t_> rihnapstor: http://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/3496/execute-python-scripts-via-web-interface
[17:19] <m1sf1t_> rihnasptor: would things be made miles simpler if you could host it all yourself, on the raspberry pi, instead of on openshift?
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[17:34] <m1sf1t_> check out my site hosted on my RPi :) http://84.92.54.190/
[17:34] <m1sf1t_> too poor for a domain ;)
[17:34] * shiftplusone clicks (it better be viruses)
[17:36] <IT_Sean> too poor for a domain!?
[17:36] <m1sf1t_> lmao no viruses, promise :)
[17:36] <IT_Sean> m1sf1t_: I'm paying 3$ per year for mine.
[17:36] <teepee> m1sf1t_: you can get subdomains for free
[17:36] <IT_Sean> i assure you, you can afford a domain
[17:36] <shiftplusone> loads fast enough for a pi. All static?
[17:37] <Nefarious___> IT_Sean: what's your website?
[17:37] <IT_Sean> I only use it for email. I don't have a website on it
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[17:37] <Nefarious___> oh
[17:38] <Nefarious___> m1sf1t_: its not loading for me
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[17:41] <m1sf1t_> it just went down :(
[17:41] <m1sf1t_> i have crappy internet at home
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[17:42] <m1sf1t_> there's an engineer coming to look at my line tomorrow
[17:42] <m1sf1t_> i never knew you could get free domains! tbh i've not done much research into it
[17:42] <m1sf1t_> and yes, all static
[17:42] <IT_Sean> you can get a free SUBdomain
[17:42] <m1sf1t_> yeah, subdomains sorry :)
[17:42] <Nefarious___> cheap normal domains
[17:43] <m1sf1t_> i thought they cost a fair bit
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[17:43] <teepee> m1sf1t_: i'm using http://freedns.afraid.org/
[17:43] <IT_Sean> as i said... i have a domain i'm paying 3$ a year for
[17:43] <teepee> m1sf1t_: lots of others out there
[17:43] <m1sf1t_> i've reserved a new top level domain
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[17:43] <Nefarious___> m1sf1t_: $3-~$300<
[17:44] <m1sf1t_> oh fair enough then, i'll get looking!
[17:44] <m1sf1t_> anyone know when the new top level domains will be available, and roughly how much they might be?
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[17:45] <Nefarious___> #web might be useful
[17:47] <m1sf1t_> i'll ask in there then :) thanks
[17:47] <Nefarious___> np
[17:47] <Nefarious___> they were actually taking about domains before I left
[17:48] <m1sf1t_> how long ago? they might still be on the subject. I emailed 1&1 and they weren't helpful in the slightest
[17:48] <Nefarious___> m1sf1t_: just /w'd to see if you were still here (awkward android client) and http://kylechat416.plus.com works. about 10 mins ago
[17:50] <m1sf1t_> i never knew i could use my ISP address like that, just by whacking http at the front :)
[17:50] <Nefarious___> works without the http as well I think
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[17:51] <m1sf1t_> thanks :)
[17:51] <Nefarious___> no problem
[17:52] <m1sf1t_> right, i have to go, thanks very much for everyone's advice :D
[17:52] <m1sf1t_> should be back later#
[17:52] <Nefarious___> cya
[17:52] <m1sf1t_> bye :)
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[17:59] <elenciu> hello
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[18:03] <elenciu> i've a question about a kernel module leds-pca9685 defined in drivers/leds/Kconfig found in Linux kernels: 3.12+HEAD <---infos from google . uname -a of my sistem show me that i've kernel 3.6.11. so.. i need to upgrade the kernel.ok. and than how can i use the device into my c code ?
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[18:13] <hid3> Hello. Can someone explain me the difference between "high" and "low" pins?
[18:13] <hid3> I mean, the GPIO pins
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[18:14] <shiftplusone> without details, high are the ones that are 3.3v the low ones are at 0v.
[18:14] <shiftplusone> in reality, there's a little more to it, like at which point does a pin go from low to high and what happens in the gray area in between
[18:14] <elenciu> i've a question about a kernel module leds-pca9685 defined in drivers/leds/Kconfig found in Linux kernels: 3.12+HEAD <---infos from google . uname -a of my sistem show me that i've kernel 3.6.11. so.. i need to upgrade the kernel.ok. and than how can i use the device into my c code ?
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[18:15] <hid3> shiftplusone: so, in fact, if I want to connect a switch/button to the Pi, which should make something once it it pressed down for short time, I should go with the "low", right?
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[18:16] <shiftplusone> hid3, it's not a preset sort of thing... all of the general purpose pins can be either high or low (or neither), depending on what state you put them in.
[18:17] <hid3> what state are they by default (after a rebbot, say)
[18:17] <hid3> ?
[18:17] <shiftplusone> in this case, by general purpose pins I mean ones that aren't just ground or just 3.3v and ones which aren't already used for other purposes
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[18:17] <hid3> well, yeah, I understand that
[18:17] <shiftplusone> I don't know, and you should never assume.
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[18:30] <pepijndevos> Little OT, but what's a good place to shop low-power computers. Just a tad more punch than a rpi.
[18:31] <pksato> pepijndevos: like rpi?
[18:31] <shiftplusone> (...with a tad more punch)
[18:32] <IT_Sean> raspberrypi.org
[18:32] <IT_Sean> sorry. :p
[18:32] <pepijndevos> More like... Atom boards and the like.
[18:32] <IT_Sean> pepijndevos: have you looked at the udoo?
[18:32] <pepijndevos> no
[18:32] <pksato> boards with ARM cpu?
[18:32] <IT_Sean> look at the udoo
[18:33] <pepijndevos> Nothing against ARM, but most of them are a little to weak.
[18:33] * pepijndevos looks at udoo
[18:34] <IT_Sean> pepijndevos: there is also the apc.io line
[18:34] <johnc-> the lowest udoo model doesn't even have network port does it?
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[18:35] <pepijndevos> It's for a NAS. So it needs some SATA ports and ram slots ;)
[18:36] <pepijndevos> I'm considering using the raspi as a NAS, but not really for any practical use...
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[18:37] <pksato> why dont buy a proper NAS?
[18:38] <qjsgkem> btw, don't buy cheap NASsen.
[18:39] <kritzikratzi> hey!
[18:39] <pepijndevos> I might. I'm just trying to figure out if there are any low power mini itx boards, and how they compare to a packaged NAS product.
[18:39] <kritzikratzi> does anyone know the latency of the π camera board?
[18:39] <kritzikratzi> i'm testing at 320x240 and it seems insanely responsive
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[18:39] <qjsgkem> had one... ran linux on an underpowered ARM SoC especially made for NAS. gave 2MB/s for NFS, on a 100MBps NIC.
[18:40] <qjsgkem> so the Atom route might be preferable
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[18:41] <johnc-> atoms are looking nice lately
[18:41] <johnc-> it's annoying to try and find a good nettop though
[18:42] <pepijndevos> My goto location for buying motherboards has closed down. So now I can't even find a good pplace to buy atom boards.
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[18:43] <qjsgkem> yeah, my favourite shop went broke one month ago. very sadly so. was the only shop in town which gave wellfounded and trustworthy tech advice and was tolerant towards non-Windog owners.
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[18:44] <pepijndevos> it's sad...
[18:44] <qjsgkem> yeah, I'm really sad about that
[18:44] <qjsgkem> bbiaf
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[18:44] <pepijndevos> If I could I'd use the raspi for everything. But it's not really suitable for a NAS.
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[18:46] <pepijndevos> AT least I can listen to music on the train using my raspi now :)
[18:47] <pepijndevos> But yea, a good location for buying atom boards would be appreciated.
[18:47] <SpeedEvil> ebay.
[18:48] <IT_Sean> he said a GOOD location, SpeedEvil
[18:48] <johnc-> where do you live?
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[18:48] <pepijndevos> Netherlands
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[19:17] <Sonny_Jim> Pepernoten
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[19:22] <Bercik> Hello
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[19:33] <hid3> I'm trying to connect a switch/button to the Pi. I got confused by the GPIO numbering. When I do "cd /sys/class/gpio/ && echo "17" > export" which actual pin is that? Is it Pin#17 on the board, or ...?
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[19:36] <shiftplusone> !give hid3 gpio
[19:36] <sourcebot> hid3: http://elinux.org/RPi_Low-level_peripherals http://wiringpi.com/pins/
[19:37] <hid3> So "gpio17" is actually #11 pin on the board?
[19:38] <shiftplusone> looks that way to me
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[19:40] <pksato> hid3: its is a SoC gpio numbering. not on header.
[19:40] <hid3> strange. No matter which Pin I choose, I always get the "button pressed" state no matter of the actual button position
[19:40] <shiftplusone> how did you wire it up and what code did you use to set it up?
[19:41] <pksato> gpio17 is pin 11.
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[19:42] <pksato> pin9 is gnd, a siwtch can easy place between 9 and 11, and need pull up enabled.
[19:42] <hid3> if I type `gpio exports` I see "17: in 1 none" and it changes in a second to "17: in 0 none". I mean it's changing every X ms.. What's wrong? :(
[19:43] <shiftplusone> we can't know until you tell us what you did.
[19:43] <hid3> anyway. Can someone suggest me a how-to for dummies on wiring a button?
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[19:43] <shiftplusone> depends on whether you use the internal pull-ups
[19:43] <hid3> nothing. I just followed this step: http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/projects/raspberrypi/tutorials/temperature/#step-nine-a
[19:43] <shiftplusone> but have a skim through this
[19:44] <shiftplusone> !give switch hid3
[19:44] <ln-> it seems Mathematica is not really usable with only 256MB ram.
[19:44] <pksato> wiringpi uses other numebering.
[19:44] <shiftplusone> >=/
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[19:44] <shiftplusone> !give hid3 switch
[19:44] <sourcebot> hid3: http://elinux.org/RPi_Tutorial_EGHS:Switch_Input
[19:45] <shiftplusone> gpio mode $pin up ; gpio wfi $pin falling; echo test
[19:45] <shiftplusone> ^ an example gordon gave yesterday
[19:45] <hid3> uhm.. What's actually a pull up and pull down?
[19:46] <shiftplusone> hid3, the link I have you explains that.
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[19:46] <hid3> reading, thanks
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[19:46] <atouk> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxA7qwmY9mg
[19:46] <shiftplusone> hid3, it makes sure there is a valid input (low or high and not floating), regardless of the state of the button.
[19:47] <hid3> oh
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[19:47] <shiftplusone> floating input is when the pin is not connected to a high or low signal and is free to pick up interference.
[19:47] <hid3> so it seems that I need at least 3 pins for one button, right? Signal, ground and +3.3V..
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[19:47] <shiftplusone> hid3, not if you use the internal pull-up
[19:48] <pksato> hid3: and a tree terminal switch.
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[19:50] <pksato> but, its is waste of resources.
[19:51] <hid3> looks like all this button stuff is too difficult for me...
[19:51] <shiftplusone> hid3, nuh, we are overcomplicating it, sorry.
[19:52] <shiftplusone> hid3, gpio mode $pin up ; gpio wfi $pin falling; echo test
[19:52] <shiftplusone> the first command will enable the pull up and make it an input pin
[19:52] <shiftplusone> the second will wait for a press
[19:52] <shiftplusone> and the third will output the text 'test'
[19:52] <shiftplusone> simple
[19:52] <pksato> hid3: get 10k resistor, put it from 3v3 to pin11, and pin11 to switch and gnd.
[19:53] <pksato> set gpio17 as input, read data, 1 if switch is open, 0 if closed.
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[19:54] <shiftplusone> hid3, pksato and I are saying slightly different things. With his approach, you don't need to enable the internal pull up, but the wiring is a little more complicated.
[19:54] <pksato> or, can invert possition of resistor and switch.
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[19:55] <pksato> external resistor is more 'visual' to leaning.
[19:56] * shiftplusone is afraid we scared him off =(
[19:56] <pksato> pull up/down resistors are used to force default logic level to input.
[19:57] <hid3> pksato: why is my gpio17 flucating between "0" and "1" even after "cold start" with nothing connected to the whole GPIO header..?
[19:58] <shiftplusone> I am guessing it's BECAUSE it's not connected to anything and it's picking up background noise.
[19:58] <pksato> hid3: input are high impendance, and dont have a logic level defined.
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[19:59] <pksato> hid3: you even touch on tip of computer speakers? It not make some noise?
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[20:00] <hid3> yeah.
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[20:03] <pksato> both, gpio and speaker input are high impedance. Any eletric field can 'activate' it.
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[20:04] <pksato> and intense field can destroy input circuit.
[20:06] <pksato> fortunately, theses input have protection.
[20:06] <saedelaere> gordonDrogon: is it possible to use the lcd lib of wiringPi via i2c and a mcp23017?
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[20:06] <gordonDrogon> saedelaere, Yes. See the lcd-adafruit.c program in the examples directory. it does just that.
[20:07] <saedelaere> gordonDrogon: thanks a lot!
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[20:07] <qjsgkem> saedelaere: zomg, a PR fan;)
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[20:08] <saedelaere> yeahhh, there are some left on terra
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[20:09] <qjsgkem> nyah... hehe
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[20:13] <qjsgkem> no problem, as long as you don't lift that mask;)
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[20:15] <saedelaere> hehe, I thought it provides some cover nowadays. with all those freaking nsa agents floating through space
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[20:16] <qjsgkem> heh. Vermummungsverbot
[20:17] <saedelaere> oh yes, forgot about that. I'd say ziviler ungehorsam ;)
[20:18] <qjsgkem> well, I thought about procuring some supicious white powder at a specialist shop in town, to be carried around with me. *if* police becomes curious, I would warn them...
[20:18] <qjsgkem> pure capsaicine...
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[20:19] <saedelaere> haha -> i'd like to see that. keep a small cam ready when its time
[20:20] <qjsgkem> hmmm, as you're probably from Germoney, too: what are good sources for raspi accessories?
[20:20] <qjsgkem> Conrad/Reichelt and the other usual suspects don't have a lot
[20:21] <saedelaere> I am buying most of my things from exp-tech.de and watterott.com, they have adafruit, seeedstudio, pololu and many other brands
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[20:21] <saedelaere> and prices are very fair
[20:21] <qjsgkem> cool, thx!
[20:21] <Kane> morning
[20:22] <saedelaere> well yes and the rest from reichelt, pollin and china :)
[20:22] <qjsgkem> of course;)
[20:22] <qjsgkem> or from the local post office...
[20:23] <qjsgkem> bought a 3.99 EUR card reader there, to be dismembered for SD and microSD slots.
[20:24] <saedelaere> good deal
[20:24] <qjsgkem> absolutely;)
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[20:24] <steve_rox> gotta love takeing apart rubbish hardware and recycleing it into something better
[20:25] <saedelaere> yeah thats hardware hacking at its best
[20:25] <qjsgkem> yup... the case isn't even scewed or glued close, you won't lose fingernails
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[20:25] <steve_rox> yay then
[20:25] <yair> Has anyone got ExpressVPN to work on a headless pi
[20:25] <halabund> Has anyone tried Mathematica on the Raspberry Pi? How does it perform? http://www.wolfram.com/raspberry-pi/ (I don't have a Pi to try it out.)
[20:26] <pepijndevos> qjsgkem, re cheap NASen. What's cheap and why not?
[20:26] <qjsgkem> and I want to have a barebones reader (SPI only) to get serial numbers, mfg date etc.
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[20:26] <pingo> Is "rpi-update" still used to update firmware? I have a 2 months old raspbian setup...
[20:27] <qjsgkem> been too long ago that I bought one, and then gave it away because it was just frustrating. reviews might help decide.
[20:27] <shiftplusone> pingo, yes, unfortunately.
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[20:27] <pingo> are there any good instructions?
[20:27] <saedelaere> halabund: I have no idea how it performs, but the pi is no high performance platform. maybe with a Pi cluster
[20:27] <pingo> I have to figure out why my wifi adapter disappears suddenly
[20:28] <shiftplusone> pingo, no, if you have any doubts about how to use rpi-update or what it does, don't.
[20:28] <halabund> Oh, I know that it can't even remotely compete with a modern Intel CPU for this kind of application, but I was more interested in usability, GUI performance, etc.
[20:28] <qjsgkem> PSU issues? microwave or bluetooth around?
[20:28] <saedelaere> pingo: what does dmesg tell you?
[20:28] <saedelaere> did you ahve a look in the log files?
[20:28] <pingo> not sure, have to hook it up to a monitor first
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[20:29] <saedelaere> you should be able to read the logs by mounting the sdcard on your machine.
[20:29] <saedelaere> if you have a linux available
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[20:30] <pingo> shiftplusone so there's no chance rpi-update might do anmy good for my wifi usb disappearing problem?
[20:30] <saedelaere> halabund: I have not tried to run an x11 server on the pi so far except openelec. the performance there is good
[20:30] <shiftplusone> pingo, unlikely... things like that are usually power issues, but you could try.
[20:30] <saedelaere> pingo: what kind of wlan dongle
[20:31] <pingo> wn722n
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[20:31] <pingo> I have polyfuses on the usb
[20:31] <pingo> mayvbe that is an issue
[20:31] <shiftplusone> and you're not using a powered hub?
[20:31] <pingo> not for the wifi
[20:31] <pingo> should I?
[20:32] <shiftplusone> that's definitely the issue. even if you short the polyfuses, it's unlikely that wifi will work well without a powered hub.
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[20:32] <saedelaere> I do not use a powered hub for wifi either. works great
[20:32] <pingo> Ok lets try with a powered hub
[20:32] <saedelaere> but I'd try with a powered hub too
[20:32] <shiftplusone> saedelaere, unless you are using the exact same wifi adapter and power supply and cable, that doesn't mean anything.
[20:33] <saedelaere> shiftplusone: you are right, I just wanted to say it is possible :)
[20:33] <shiftplusone> yeah, it definitely is, plenty of adapters work just fine.
[20:33] <chithead> if you use a hub that backfeeds power, you may even be able to power the pi from it
[20:34] <pingo> Is it possible that my arduino feeds power to the rpi?
[20:34] <saedelaere> right chithead I use a small logilink hub for my model a Pis and backpowering is great
[20:34] <pingo> when I connect the arduino to rpi it lights up
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[20:34] <pingo> (unrelated question)
[20:35] <qjsgkem> saedelaere: /msg
[20:35] <shiftplusone> pingo, anything that puts power on the usb connector or the 5v gpio pins may power up the pi.
[20:35] <shiftplusone> (given that it's 5v and can provide enough current obviously)
[20:36] <chithead> all model A, 512 mb model B and the newer 256 mb model B allow power backfeeding
[20:36] <shiftplusone> ah right, pingo you have a rev 1 board
[20:36] <pingo> yes
[20:36] <shiftplusone> that won't work too well
[20:37] <pingo> whats the difference?
[20:37] <shiftplusone> rev2 boards don't have polyfuses on usb, only the power input.
[20:37] <steve_rox> i saw some fool power up a rpi by shoveing a power cable into the audio in jack , kinda scary
[20:37] <pingo> what if I short them, will it work then?
[20:37] <shiftplusone> yeah
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[20:37] <shiftplusone> (I did that on my rev1)
[20:37] <chithead> rev.1 can also run on backfed power if you have 0Ω resistor instead of polyfuses
[20:37] <pingo> (just asking out of curiosity)
[20:38] <pingo> is there a way to stress test the pi?
[20:39] <pingo> I?O
[20:39] <pingo> I/O
[20:39] <chithead> http://elinux.org/RPi_Performance suggests some ways
[20:39] <shiftplusone> O_o get it to do a lot of whatever it is you want to test it doing.
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[20:39] <pingo> aha
[20:39] <hid3> Okay. I have watched this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpkI2JGdtAA I wired everything as described there, and I also wrote the exactly same python script as shown there. But I get the oppisite!!! When the button is NOT being pressed (not connected), I get 'button pressed' messages flood, but when I press and hold it, it stops. Why is the logic on my Rpi reversed?
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[20:40] <shiftplusone> hid3, it depends on how it's physically wired. you can have a switch that's normally high and goes low when a key is pressed or the other way around.
[20:40] <zleap> hello
[20:40] <IT_Sean> Are you using a normally open or normally closed button?
[20:40] <shiftplusone> oh and the switch itself can be normally closed or normally open
[20:41] <hid3> shiftplusone: I wired up exactly everything the same as shown, and the switch is Normally Open
[20:41] <shiftplusone> Well, I am not going to watch the video, so I can't really say much about the specifics.
[20:41] <IT_Sean> Is the switch pulling the circuit low or high?
[20:42] <hid3> high
[20:43] <IT_Sean> is your code expecting the pin to be pulled high or low to produce the "button pressed" message?
[20:44] <hid3> not sure about that, not a python expert, but I might paste the code:
[20:44] <pingo> I plugged the wifi adapter through a powered hub now and it didnt detect the wifi on boot up. Then I plugged it into the next socket and it came alive. Not sure what the issue would be
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[20:44] <IT_Sean> I'm not a pythin 'pert either
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[20:44] <hid3> Here's the code: http://pastebin.com/MQ4HNqaq
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[20:45] <shiftplusone> If you are pulling the pin high, then the value of the pin should be 'true'
[20:46] <shiftplusone> read the code and that will answer your question.
[20:46] <shiftplusone> especially the "if input_value == False:" part
[20:46] * IT_Sean gives shiftplusone a gold star
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[20:47] <hid3> Okay, I changed it to True, same result!
[20:48] <shiftplusone> did you alse change the "while input_value == False:" line ?
[20:48] <hid3> flood with button not pressed and it stops once I hold the button
[20:48] <hid3> no
[20:48] <IT_Sean> (>_<)
[20:49] <hid3> still the same...
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[20:50] <shiftplusone> if your code does the same thing when you tell it to do the exact opposite, there's a problem =/
[20:50] <hid3> looks like this board is reversed or something in software was reversed, because I get absolutely opposite effect when following *any* how-to for dummies
[20:50] <hid3> e.g. connecting 8 channel relay board..
[20:50] <Sonny_Jim> Do you have a multimeter?
[20:50] <IT_Sean> (O_o)
[20:50] <hid3> sure
[20:50] <Sonny_Jim> Then make sure the button is push-to-make
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[20:50] <hid3> indeed it is
[20:51] <hid3> multimeter beeps when I press the button
[20:51] <Sonny_Jim> Have you actuallychecked with it removed from the circuit?
[20:51] <hid3> and it stops when I release it
[20:51] <hid3> yes, i checked it before the installation
[20:51] <hid3> and I've checked it 20 or so seconds ago again
[20:51] <Sonny_Jim> How many pins does it have?
[20:51] <hid3> two
[20:51] <Sonny_Jim> Then I have no idea
[20:51] <shiftplusone> measure the voltage, don't do a continuity test on the switch
[20:52] <shiftplusone> measure between ground and the pin
[20:52] <shiftplusone> with the switch on and off
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[20:53] <steve_rox> yay i got rpi reading my pulse oximeter
[20:53] <clever> :D
[20:53] <shiftplusone> what's a pulse oximeter? O_o
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[20:53] <clever> what kind of pulse oximeter?
[20:53] <clever> shiftplusone: it reads your pulse and o2 rate
[20:53] <clever> level*
[20:53] <shiftplusone> oh nice
[20:54] <steve_rox> correct
[20:54] <shiftplusone> how the hell do they read the oxygen level anyway?
[20:54] <hid3> This simple howto: https://projects.drogon.net/raspberry-pi/gpio-examples/tux-crossing/gpio-examples-1-a-single-led/ Now find a commend by David Bird. I have exactly the same problem!
[20:54] <clever> ive looked into it, getting pulse is trivial, a red led
[20:54] <hid3> The board seems to be reversed
[20:54] <steve_rox> seems to use ir
[20:54] <clever> getting oxygen content is more complex, red AND ir
[20:54] <steve_rox> kinda handy to have
[20:54] <clever> the ratio of the return signal between the 2 tells you oxygen level
[20:54] <shiftplusone> cool
[20:55] <steve_rox> i once used it to diagnose a erratic heartbeat
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[20:55] <shiftplusone> I was at the hospital recently and was surprised when they told me my oxygen level like 1 minute after I walked in... now I know how they knew >=/
[20:55] <clever> shiftplusone: it works within seconds
[20:55] <clever> but it helps to average it out over many samples
[20:55] <clever> keep it stable
[20:55] <steve_rox> finger clamp device
[20:55] <shiftplusone> yeah 'course
[20:56] <IT_Sean> finger clampydoo
[20:56] <clever> ive been thinking about making a bluetooth based unit, so it can link into a phone and upload data 24/7
[20:57] <IT_Sean> is that... necessary?
[20:57] <clever> shiftplusone: https://www.sparkfun.com/products/11574 this one does just pulse
[20:57] <clever> IT_Sean: the longer my dad stays healthy, the longer i dont have to get a job :P
[20:57] <shiftplusone> I just thought that that's something they'd need to take a blood test for, but they're like "nope, your blood oxygen level is 92%"... magic.
[20:57] <clever> shiftplusone: yeah, the red and ir light reflect/absorb differently based on the oxygen content
[20:58] <clever> and with each heart beat, the levels of both spike
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[20:58] <clever> IT_Sean: he's already has a pace maker installed, he passed out just pushing a mouse arround on a computer
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[20:59] <yair> if your oxi level is 92% seems you may have a problem
[20:59] <clever> yair: sounds fine to me
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[21:00] <RayS> trying to get rplay to work and its failing with itunes, it seems to stream video ok
[21:00] <yair> I beleave it should be between 94 and 99%
[21:00] <shiftplusone> yair, there was a problem, but not enough of a problem for it to be lower.
[21:00] <steve_rox> mines 96
[21:00] <clever> let me find my meter...
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[21:01] <pingo> What usb hub would you recommend with at least 5 ports available and that I can buy in Europe?
[21:01] <RayS> anyone else using rplay or any alternatives to try?
[21:01] <yair> mine is 95% and I have a dicky heart
[21:02] <steve_rox> 98% now
[21:02] <shiftplusone> !addquote verified http://elinux.org/RPi_VerifiedPeripherals
[21:02] <sourcebot> shiftplusone: Type !quote verified to shows the quote
[21:02] <clever> cant find it
[21:02] <shiftplusone> !give pingo verified
[21:02] <sourcebot> pingo: http://elinux.org/RPi_VerifiedPeripherals
[21:02] <shiftplusone> one of those
[21:02] <pingo> thank you
[21:03] <yair> I think 100% means you have carbon monoxide poisoning
[21:03] <steve_rox> handy to have , they let you know if your dead or not
[21:04] <yair> exactly
[21:04] <clever> shiftplusone: oh yeah, let me find the part...
[21:04] <pingo> Im thinking about this one http://thepihut.com/products/7-port-usb-hub-for-the-raspberry-pi
[21:05] <shiftplusone> that'll work
[21:05] <yair> i only use mine a quick heatbeat monitor
[21:05] <shiftplusone> though keep in mind it's a 7 port hub, but comes with only a 2A supply (shouldn't any problems though)
[21:06] <pingo> aha
[21:07] <clever> shiftplusone: i found an led on digikey i think it was, it was both red and ir in the same package
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[21:07] <clever> perfect for a pulse oximeter
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[21:07] <ShorTie> sourcebot, needs a !list to notice ya the list of what it has
[21:07] <clever> any guesses as to the price?
[21:07] <shiftplusone> ShorTie, !allquotes
[21:07] <shiftplusone> ahm $1 ?
[21:07] <ShorTie> oh, ok
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[21:08] <clever> shiftplusone: i think it was something like $20 per led
[21:08] <IT_Sean> !allquotes
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[21:08] <clever> shiftplusone: and a min order quant of 100
[21:08] <shiftplusone> close enough >.>
[21:08] <clever> lol
[21:09] <ShorTie> !allquotes
[21:09] <clever> shiftplusone: http://hackaday.com/2010/01/06/pulse-oximeter/
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[21:11] <clever> shiftplusone:
[21:11] <clever> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pulse_oximetry
[21:11] <clever> paste is sometimes laggy
[21:11] <shiftplusone> (already read up on it)
[21:12] <clever> ah, here is the key numberm 660nm and 940nm
[21:13] <clever> found the part
[21:13] <clever> shiftplusone: http://www.digikey.ca/product-detail/en/PDI-E835/PDI-E835-ND/481836
[21:13] <clever> $33 each, and you must be 1000 min
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[21:13] <clever> so, $33,589 bucks if you want one, lol
[21:14] <IT_Sean> (0_0)
[21:14] <shiftplusone> Well, you could sell the rest
[21:14] <Sonny_Jim> Or
[21:14] <IT_Sean> GROUP BUY!
[21:14] <Sonny_Jim> You ring them up and pretend to be from XYZ company that produces Blah tech
[21:14] <Sonny_Jim> And could you have a sample unit?
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[21:14] <Sonny_Jim> It's worked for me in the past, just feed a load of rubbish to the sales drones
[21:14] <clever> it would be simpler to just buy IR and red LED's seperately
[21:14] <shiftplusone> Sonny_Jim, D= lying is a SIN!
[21:14] <clever> and just use them like that
[21:15] <IT_Sean> shabius: No it isn't
[21:15] <IT_Sean> ooops
[21:15] <IT_Sean> shiftplusone: no it isn't
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[21:16] <hosler> so how bad do i have to be to ruin a circuit with my soldering iron?
[21:17] <shiftplusone> It's not hard
[21:17] <hosler> darn
[21:17] <shiftplusone> what do you plan on doing?
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[21:17] <hosler> just solder on some pins, but im a novice
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[21:17] <Emi> hi
[21:17] <shiftplusone> you'll be fine
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[21:18] <pksato> especially if using a lead free solder.
[21:18] <hosler> it's lead free
[21:19] <hid3> Could anyone paste to pastebin.com the output of `gpio readall` on their Pi?
[21:19] <steve_rox> lead free solder is hell to melt
[21:19] <hosler> steve_rox: that makes sense
[21:20] <steve_rox> yup
[21:21] <pksato> I never used lead free solder, but read some txt about. The big problem is nano wire bridges.
[21:21] <karlh626> hid3: My pi does not have that command - where or what does it come from?
[21:21] <shiftplusone> karlh626, wiringpi
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[21:22] <pksato> hid3: sitll trying to read a swtich?
[21:22] <hid3> I think it's part of wiringPi
[21:22] <hosler> i got that adafruit LCD. didnt know it didnt come assembled
[21:22] <hosler> so now i gotta practice soldering :)
[21:23] <hid3> pksato: I'm trying to find if my pins are not reversed (e.g. most of them high instead of low, etc)
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[21:24] <pksato> hosler: tip is, after assembled, make minucious inspection of all junction and clean with some hard brush.
[21:24] <hosler> pksato: brush and alcohol?
[21:25] <pksato> hid3: is not possible. Or you have a RPi from other universe.
[21:25] <hid3> Are SaintSmart relay boards reversed? When I set the pin to "high", the relay is disengaged, but when I set it to "low", it engages.. Shouldn't it be opposite?
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[21:26] <qjsgkem> pksato: well, last time I read about it, there was an exemption for aerospace industry, because of leadfree solder tending to form "whiskers"
[21:26] <pksato> hosler: or other solvent. but alcohol is health safe.
[21:27] <pksato> hid3: yes. SaintSmart relay modules are inverted logic.
[21:28] <pksato> 1 to off, 0 to on.
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[21:28] <hid3> Wow. Thank God I'm not going crazy thinking that all the stuff has gone wrong tonight!!!
[21:28] <hid3> Great, at least the relayboard is usable :)
[21:28] <shiftplusone> so... datasheets
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[21:29] <pksato> to use theses modules, set output to 1 before change mode to output.
[21:29] <rikkib> Relay board sometimes need a buffer (Single npn transistor 2n2222)
[21:30] <hid3> yeah, probably that's the solution. not doing that will make them click on and then back off
[21:30] <pksato> SaintSmart relay modules are to 5V. Some reported that not work on 3v3 RPi.
[21:30] <rikkib> If it has opto or pnp high side switching it will need a buffer
[21:30] <steve_rox> i have one them for my rpi
[21:30] <hid3> 3v3??? You wire up only 5V and GND to there, no 3v3...
[21:31] <pksato> and, can not USE 5V from RPi.
[21:31] <steve_rox> i think i used the 5v line on mine
[21:31] <pksato> For one or two relay is ok.
[21:32] <steve_rox> 8
[21:34] <rikkib> The RPi can stand a certain amount of abuse but eventually failure rate increases
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[21:36] <rikkib> 8 opto isolated @ 10ma = more current than the RPi should be supplying
[21:37] <hid3> so having all 8 relays activated at the same time will draw too much power?
[21:38] <pksato> 640mA for 80mA relay coil.
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[21:39] <pksato> a way to use relay module http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/5734/9vrl.jpg
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[21:41] <qjsgkem> I hope the raspi's 3.3V regulator has enough slack to power an SD card in SPI mode?
[21:41] <hid3> wow, too complex, I'd say
[21:41] <hid3> requires external psu
[21:41] <RayS> any known alternatives to rplay for airplay mirroring?
[21:42] <hid3> if you use one relay (activated) at time, I think it can be powered from Rpi
[21:43] <qjsgkem> huh? I don't feel an ULN2003 is too complex?
[21:43] <pksato> hid3: one PSU can be used, but, not power relay module from gpio 5V or 3v3.
[21:44] <qjsgkem> plusit will remove your 1-is0 issue
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[21:51] <hid3> there's a youtube video where a guy drives 16 relays off the Rpi's +5V without any external power supplies or extra chips
[21:51] <shiftplusone> there's a video of a guy powering his pi through the audio jack.
[21:52] * ShorTie snickers
[21:52] <wsmsg> god damnit now i want a snickers bar
[21:52] <hid3> well, I think I'll skipt the extra psu/chip anyway just to keep things simple
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[21:53] <hid3> What is worst-case scenario doing that? Frying the Pi?
[21:53] <pksato> Yes.
[21:54] <hid3> I doubt I'll have more than 3 relays activated at the same time
[21:55] <hid3> each relay coil is somewhere between 60-70 mA
[21:56] <hid3> and what's rating the Rpi can provide most?
[21:56] <ShorTie> about 15
[21:56] <pksato> hid3: remember, RPi is a 3v3 device. Relay is 5V.
[21:56] <shiftplusone> ShorTie no, that's for the gpio pins.
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[21:57] <clever> the 5v pin on the gpio goes almost directly to the input, just a small resetable fuse in the path
[21:57] <clever> so you have to stay within that fuse for the total current of everything
[21:57] <shiftplusone> the pi designed to have about 50mA to spare from the 5v pin, but it will depend on what USB devices you have and what power supply you are using.
[21:57] <ShorTie> oh, thought that was where he was powering his relay coils from
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[21:57] <hid3> and what properties does the fuse have>?
[21:57] <steve_rox> i have a 8 relay board i can hookup to mine
[21:57] <clever> hid3: what shiftplusone said
[21:57] <pksato> to use theses modules, need to separate VCC of opto-couples and VCC of relays. have a jumper to do it.
[21:58] <shiftplusone> ShorTie, I am guessing the relay board has something else between the relay and the pi.
[21:58] <clever> i would just get a beefy 5v supply, and feed that INTO the +5v gpio pin
[21:58] <clever> ignore the usb port
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[21:58] <clever> run the relays and pi off the same supply, feed the pi thru the gpio +5 pin
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[21:58] <clever> relay current never goes thru the pi board
[21:58] <hid3> well, I have 5V 2A PSU and no USB devices connected.. Just Ethernet
[21:59] <shiftplusone> hid3, then you'll have about 500mA to play with, I think.
[21:59] <hid3> Okay, each coil 70 mA
[21:59] <pksato> split PSU out on two or more, use one to power RPi and other to relay.
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[21:59] <hid3> 8*70 = 560 mA
[21:59] <hid3> about what's needed
[22:00] <hid3> assuming all 8 relays are active
[22:00] <steve_rox> i used a utube vid to guide me on how to set it up
[22:00] <steve_rox> i can activate all relays without issue
[22:01] <hid3> steve_rox: any USb devices?
[22:01] <steve_rox> errr
[22:01] <steve_rox> maybe one wireless keyboard
[22:01] <hid3> well. I don't have any USB devices so I guess I'll be good too
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[22:01] <johnc-> has anybody use glui on rpi?
[22:01] <johnc-> used*
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[22:02] <hid3> steve_rox: by the way, is you relay board reversed logic too?
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[22:02] <steve_rox> erm im not sure what that means
[22:02] <pksato> other problem are high voltage 'feedback' genereted by relay coil, its is supressed by diodes, but some residual noise can interfere on RPi logic, and put RPi on unstable state.
[22:02] <steve_rox> but you have to set the pin low for it to come on
[22:03] <hid3> yeah, reversed logic :)
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[22:03] <shiftplusone> hid3, are you taking into account the current drawn from the pins as well? The page says it will be 15-20mA per pin (above that you should draw, but probably won't kill your pi too soon)
[22:04] <steve_rox> yeah it seems to run okays
[22:04] <hid3> Okay, then ~70 mA for coil + 20 mA for pin. Okay, roughly 100 mA per active relay. So you can safely have up to 5 active relays at time
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[22:04] <shiftplusone> I wouldn't say safely, but yeah.
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[22:06] <pksato> use one of this http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/544134960/micro_usb_splitter_cable.html
[22:06] <steve_rox> i used the 8 relay board to control a rc car
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[22:10] <rikkib> hid3, I theory with some relay boards it is say to say that the power they draw far exceeds the GPIO specs of the RPi
[22:10] <rikkib> That is for one relay
[22:10] <rikkib> In theory
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[22:11] <SpeedEvil> In general, if the board has onboard drivers, it'll be fine.
[22:11] <SpeedEvil> If it uses the bare relays, it will not.
[22:11] <rikkib> Ahhh my typing
[22:11] <rikkib> Opto are not safe either
[22:11] <SpeedEvil> Depending on the current they draw, they may be.
[22:12] <rikkib> The RPi is desinged to be used with buffers
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[22:13] <rikkib> If you are loading up the rpi gpio you should be looking at less than 5ma per pin used
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[22:14] <rikkib> Transistors work with uA of power
[22:15] <rikkib> supply power to peripherals separately
[22:15] <rikkib> via a polyfuse
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[22:16] <shiftplusone> Hey, that's all if you want to do things properly. hid3 is only interested in things being simple and not blowing up within the next few minutes.
[22:16] <pksato> buy proper modules/shield/etc to RPi. :)
[22:17] <ShorTie> and then the magic smoke comes to solve all the problems
[22:17] <qjsgkem> how about forking 5V PSU -> (a) RPi (b) supply for ULN2003 or similar and optocouplers and relays (if 5V)?
[22:17] <qjsgkem> of course assuming the PSU can deliver;)
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[22:17] <rikkib> You need to use level converters
[22:17] <qjsgkem> so not pulling the 5V off the RPi PCB, but before
[22:18] <qjsgkem> ah, OK...
[22:18] <rikkib> The RPi will not drive 5v logic properly
[22:18] <Sonny_Jim> yup
[22:19] <Sonny_Jim> I found that out
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[22:19] <rikkib> RPi will drive logic level fets
[22:19] <rikkib> and bipolar
[22:19] <pksato> http://www.progetti-hw-sw.it/raspberry.htm
[22:20] <rikkib> any input logic has to be 3.3v
[22:20] <hid3> ok, pardon my ignorance but I highly believe in that "overcurrent" gossip...
[22:20] <hid3> *hardly
[22:20] <rikkib> or use level converter
[22:20] <qjsgkem> couldn't it drive a transistor that then switches the 5V for optocouplers?
[22:20] <Sonny_Jim> Sure
[22:20] <Sonny_Jim> But then that's a level convertor, isn't it?
[22:20] <rikkib> Yes that is how I do it
[22:21] <qjsgkem> OK, yeah... right;)
[22:21] <rikkib> a npn 2n2222 and a resistor
[22:21] <Sonny_Jim> If you plan on interfacing more than one output/input, just buy a buffer chip
[22:21] <rikkib> There are plenty of circuits on the net
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[22:22] <rikkib> I use 3.3v micros MC9S08 and STM32V
[22:22] <qjsgkem> I fainbtly remember once building a realy board attached to peecee parallel port, with 1kOhm R between port bit/opto. that would mean max 5mA, and it worked.
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[22:23] <qjsgkem> CNY17 or 4N25 couplers. iirc.
[22:23] <SpeedEvil> qjsgkem: 4mA or so - LED is 0.9V or so forward voltage
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[22:24] <rikkib> There are more modern opto that work better on 3.3v with fast switching times up to around 20mhz or more
[22:24] <steve_rox> kinda wish the relays could handle slightly more current tho
[22:24] <qjsgkem> well, as I don't have a source for 20MHz switching rate relays... ;)
[22:25] <rikkib> Not relays
[22:25] <steve_rox> i hotwired the relays to a keyboard pcb and made the rpi drive a tank in a pc game
[22:25] <rikkib> if you are level converting fast io
[22:25] <qjsgkem> of course;)
[22:26] <Sonny_Jim> lol
[22:26] <Sonny_Jim> I wired up the GPIO to a SNES controller port
[22:26] <Sonny_Jim> So it would record and replay games
[22:26] <Sonny_Jim> (side note: The PRNG routine in most SNES games is pitifully poor)
[22:26] * rikkib off to buy a grinder... Need to weld a 10m tower back together.
[22:26] <qjsgkem> was about to ask;)
[22:27] <qjsgkem> a 10m power? wow, now that's PC casemodding!
[22:28] <shiftplusone> lol!
[22:28] <pksato> http://www.cooking-hacks.com/documentation/tutorials/raspberry-pi-to-arduino-shields-connection-bridge
[22:28] <steve_rox> maybe i should stuff a rpi into a vcr case and make it some media thing
[22:28] <Sonny_Jim> That would be pretty cool
[22:28] <steve_rox> alough it could get mistaken for the latest xbox
[22:28] <Sonny_Jim> But only if you made it possible to record data onto the tapes
[22:29] <Sonny_Jim> ie Turn a VCR into a tape drive
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[22:29] <Sonny_Jim> Should be possible to do it via audio aka Spectrum
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[22:29] <steve_rox> still got its original led display thing no idea how to wire it up tho
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[22:30] <steve_rox> not sure if its led , its glass
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[22:30] <Sonny_Jim> Oh thats erm
[22:30] <Sonny_Jim> PFD
[22:30] <Sonny_Jim> No, VFD
[22:30] <Sonny_Jim> Vaccuum FloruoDisplay or something
[22:31] <Sonny_Jim> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vacuum_fluorescent_display
[22:31] <IT_Sean> Vacuum Fluorescent Display
[22:31] <AlanBell> steve_rox: a pi would fit quite comfortably in a VHS tape
[22:31] <steve_rox> whats the typical voltage for one?
[22:31] <IT_Sean> steve_rox: a VFD requires a fairly high operating voltage
[22:31] <Sonny_Jim> I'm guessing it's HV
[22:31] <IT_Sean> High enough that you aughtn't be messing with it
[22:31] <steve_rox> from a vcr display? cant be that bad
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[22:32] <Sonny_Jim> heh
[22:32] <Sonny_Jim> Famous last words
[22:32] <IT_Sean> ^ tgat
[22:32] <IT_Sean> ^that
[22:32] <steve_rox> hehe
[22:32] <Sonny_Jim> Even a AA battery can give you a heart attack, given the right components attached to it
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[22:33] <steve_rox> what like the flash component from a disposible camera ? :-P
[22:33] <steve_rox> i have one them , can be handy
[22:33] <pksato> some VFD need 15V to 30V. and 3v to filament.
[22:34] <SpeedEvil> Sonny_Jim: A hammer, for example.
[22:34] <Sonny_Jim> The hardware to drive the display will already be in there, you just need to figure out where to patch in
[22:34] <Sonny_Jim> SpeedEvil: Quite
[22:34] <steve_rox> might be more realstic to use one them genric lcd's everyone uses
[22:34] <Sonny_Jim> Nah
[22:34] <Sonny_Jim> Live a little
[22:34] <IT_Sean> ^ That's typical, although i've seen some larger VFDs that use a significantly higher voltage (read: 75 to 150ish)
[22:34] <Tenkawa> IT_Sean: what amp draw though?
[22:34] <Sonny_Jim> Pinball dot matrix displays use -110V and -90V
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[22:35] <IT_Sean> Tenkawa: No clue
[22:35] <Tenkawa> ah
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[22:37] <Synn> hello
[22:37] <sney> hi
[22:37] <Synn> Anyone here know a thing or two about xbmc?
[22:37] <sney> ask your question and if someone knows they will answer
[22:38] <Synn> How can I get my pi to join my Windows 8 homegroup, so I can share my media folders?
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[22:38] <Synn> Even UPnP is not working for me right now.
[22:39] <Sonny_Jim> Is it still samba for windows networking?
[22:40] <sney> yeah, samba. and cifs-utils for mounting windows shares, though I think samba pulls that in as a dependency
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[22:40] <Sonny_Jim> Which version of samba are you using?
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[22:41] <pksato> Synn: To rpi/xbmc access windows8 files?
[22:41] <Synn> how would I find that out?
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[22:42] <Synn> SMB was striaght forwards on 7
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[22:43] <Tenkawa> Synn: try nmblookup --version from commandline
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[22:43] <Tenkawa> maybe nmblookup -v
[22:43] <Tenkawa> its in the manpage
[22:43] <Tenkawa> in theory
[22:44] <Synn> nmblookup is an unknown command
[22:44] <pksato> smbclient -V
[22:45] <pksato> smbmount -V
[22:45] <Tenkawa> wow i'm out of date
[22:45] <Synn> all of those unknown commands
[22:45] <Tenkawa> is nmblookup gone completely ?
[22:45] * qjsgkem gives Tenkawa a box of dates
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[22:45] <sney> apt-cache policy samba
[22:45] <Tenkawa> oh
[22:45] <Synn> apt-cache won't work, this is windows 8
[22:45] <Tenkawa> huh?
[22:46] <Tenkawa> Synn: apt-cache from the rpi
[22:46] <Tenkawa> not windows
[22:46] <pksato> w8 to access rpi?
[22:46] <sney> all of these commands were supposed to be run on your pi
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[22:46] <sney> windows's versions don't matter
[22:46] <Tenkawa> samba is on the rpi
[22:46] <Synn> Hold up, let me try to get to the command line on my pi
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[22:47] <Synn> Actually, I have no idea how to get to my cmd on Raspxbc
[22:48] <Synn> Raspbmc
[22:48] <pksato> from rpi try smblient //win_host_name/share_name
[22:48] <pksato> smbclient //win_host_name/share_name
[22:48] <sney> (that will require finding a terminal)
[22:49] <Synn> WHen i satart up my pie
[22:49] <Synn> I have two options
[22:49] <Synn> let it load striaght ot Raspbmc, or press Shift and go to the install page
[22:50] <Synn> which also doesn't give me the option to reach a terminal
[22:50] <Synn> I hate not being able to use command line -_-;;
[22:50] <sney> raspbmc has their own irc channel at #raspbmc. ctrl+alt+f2 might also take you to one
[22:50] <IT_Sean> learn
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[22:50] <sney> pay attention, IT_Sean
[22:50] * Sonny_Jim watches avidly
[22:50] <IT_Sean> ?
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[22:51] <steve_rox> got samba file shares working on rpi , seems easier than i expected
[22:51] <sney> the problem isn't knowing how to use the command line, it's knowing where to find it in the raspbmc interface
[22:51] <IT_Sean> you can ssh to the Pi from another machine. BAM. command line.
[22:51] <Synn> Sean
[22:51] <Synn> wins
[22:51] <Synn> lol
[22:51] <sney> also an option, provided raspbmc runs ssh by default
[22:51] <Synn> Gimmie a sec, imma ssh in
[22:52] <IT_Sean> Synn: Do i get a gold star?
[22:52] <Synn> two
[22:52] <IT_Sean> TWO! :D
[22:52] <IT_Sean> YAAY!
[22:53] <GentileBen> IT_Sean, my old friend.
[22:53] <GentileBen> My fellow IT worker.
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[22:53] <pksato> or just add media from xmbc gui.
[22:53] <qjsgkem> gold star is gone. give him an LG instead;)
[22:53] <Synn> Omg. It auto blocks me.
[22:54] <Synn> Wtf is this. Lol, Imma try to create one of their manual profiles I guess
[22:54] <Tenkawa> whats IT?
[22:54] <Tenkawa> haahaa
[22:54] <Synn> Oh, I gotta figure out it's username
[22:54] <Synn> Damn Raspbmc
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[22:56] <Synn> I didn't know that was a swear word..
[22:56] <Synn> O-o
[22:56] <GentileBen> It is. Please don't say "damn" again.
[22:56] <IT_Sean> Synn: I am PMing you now
[22:56] <qjsgkem> IT? hmmmmm
[22:56] <Synn> Oh.. wow, can I say wth?
[22:56] <IT_Sean> wth is fine
[22:57] <qjsgkem> heck;)
[22:57] <Synn> I don't actually say what it stands for
[22:57] <Synn> I just say the letters, lol.
[22:57] <IT_Sean> have a good weekend y'all
[22:57] <qjsgkem> enjoy!
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[22:58] <GentileBen> As long as the "h" stands for "heck", it's fine by us.
[22:58] <GentileBen> Hmm. Maybe the "f" meant fudge?
[22:58] <qjsgkem> frog;)
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[23:01] <Nefarious___> where's the f in wth?;)
[23:03] <taza> What the fsck.
[23:03] <Tenkawa> i think that was just a general statement
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[23:04] <taza> Curse words for RPi: "fsck", "filesystem corruption", "usb hub"
[23:04] <Furia> haha
[23:04] <Nefarious___> !give taza rules
[23:04] <sourcebot> taza: Please be sure familiarize yourself with the channel conduct policy. http://tiny.cc/h7za1w
[23:04] <taza> What do I need the rules for?
[23:04] <Nefarious___> Also be aware that ‘fsck’ is only acceptable in the context of a file system check. Telling someone to run fsck is fine. Telling someone to fskc off is not.
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[23:05] <Synn> YES! I got command line
[23:05] <Synn> lol
[23:05] <qjsgkem> Nefarious___: I read that, but...
[23:05] <taza> Yeah, and I did use it directly next to "filesystem corruption"
[23:05] <qjsgkem> wth is 'fskc'?
[23:05] <Furia> try it ;)
[23:05] <taza> "FileSystem KhecC"
[23:05] <Furia> It's fun
[23:05] <ebhtura_> what if someone has a filesystem /yomomma?
[23:06] <taza> (fsck)
[23:06] <Nefarious___> taza: "what the fsck" besides, I was just going a point :P
[23:06] <SpeedEvil> Let's not taunt happy fun ops.
[23:06] <qjsgkem> use that a few more times, and you might get lost+found;)
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[23:06] <Synn> version 3.6.6 samba
[23:07] <taza> Nefarious___: Actually, still a reference to filesystem corruption.
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[23:07] <taza> (To be specific, it's what you say when you try to boot and filesystem corruption means you can't)
[23:07] <Nefarious___> will anything with fsck in it it really...
[23:07] <[Saint]> Alternatively, trollish, deliberate rule bending...
[23:07] <Furia> Sudo - s upgrades your account rights, yeah?
[23:08] <Furia> Cause how do you revert it?
[23:08] <ThiefMaster> ^D
[23:08] <taza> But no, "what the filesystem check" is actually something I say when an OS fails in some new, interesting way
[23:08] <ThiefMaster> (or just use 'exit' or 'logout')
[23:09] <[Saint]> taza: irrespective of that, its directly against the rules here...so, you might want to...not. :)
[23:09] <Tenkawa> well drats
[23:09] <Furia> I would use logout, but forgot my login details.
[23:09] <Nefarious___> taza: as I said, I was just making a point
[23:09] <Tenkawa> compile keeps failing :(
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[23:09] <taza> (Because there's frequently kids around when I fix things)
[23:09] <ThiefMaster> Furia: it just closes your sudo session
[23:10] <Furia> Okay, bai guys ^^
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[23:10] <[Saint]> ThiefMaster: fwiw, so will exit.
[23:10] <[Saint]> ANd then you don;t have to fight with terminal emulators that might get things hilariously wrong.
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[23:11] <Sonny_Jim> I had to finger a user after I mounted something
[23:11] <TheCommieDuck> Hopefully this doesn't go too OT, but: If I was wanting to try and make a quadcoptor primarily powered by a pi, would I need some kind of barebones board to do the low-level stuff (i.e. realtime and I2C motor control)? I've seem a few vanilla-pi coptors around from extensive googling, but I wasn't sure if I was going to be struggling to do much with just a pi.
[23:11] <Sonny_Jim> etc etc
[23:11] * Tenkawa prefers ctrl-d
[23:12] <Synn> pksato, Sonny_Jim, Tenkawa The samba version my pi is using is 3.6.6
[23:12] <taza> But yeah, cursewords: "polyfuse", "usb hub", "corruption", "phone charger", "battery", "dealextreme"
[23:12] <Tenkawa> Synn: i "think" thats too old
[23:13] <Tenkawa> dont quote me though
[23:13] <taza> Four out of six are directly related to supplying power to the RPi, and one of the remaining two is frequently related to it.
[23:13] <Tenkawa> i think it has to be v4
[23:13] <Nefarious___> TheCommieDuck: I thought about today and I can't up with this: use arduino linked with pi for motors, pu can calculate distances etc. with gps so tells arduino what to do with the motors.
[23:13] <Tenkawa> someone else will have to confirm
[23:13] <Nefarious___> this today*
[23:14] <Nefarious___> came*
[23:14] <Nefarious___> stupid Swype >:(
[23:14] <Synn> I believe 3.6.6 is the latest version
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[23:15] <Tenkawa> 4.1.2
[23:15] <Tenkawa> sambba.org
[23:15] <Tenkawa> er samba.org
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[23:16] <qjsgkem> well, add "if you have a ${x} A PSU, buy a 5/${x} Ohm resistor rated 5*${x} W, connect, measure voltage" ;)
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[23:17] * Tenkawa remembers wiring up potentionmeters, diodes, etc
[23:17] <TheCommieDuck> Nefarious___ (and anyone else): Wouldn't the pi->arduino link be very slow, though?
[23:19] <Nefarious___> TheCommieDuck: being honest, Im not too sure. my original idea was to get a quadcopter to fly somewhere based on GPS location. try asking in #arduino :)
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[23:19] <TheCommieDuck> Nefarious___: I tried #arduino, they were kinda helpful, they redirected me to #multiwii, who flamed me, so I figured here would be the best idea because I was asking about the technical ability of the pi :P
[23:20] <Nefarious___> TheCommieDuck: yeah you're probably right
[23:20] <TheCommieDuck> Even if the pi is timeshare not realtime, surely if you don't run a bunch of other processes, you're going to be running at least reasonably realtime?
[23:20] <qjsgkem> you could use RTEMS on the Pi;)
[23:21] <Synn> I checked the smb config file
[23:21] <Nefarious___> TheCommieDuck: it should still be fast. I was surprised at my stuff running on it
[23:21] <Synn> and it was only allowing user pi
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[23:21] <Synn> so I deleted that line to allow all, because IDGAF about security
[23:21] <TheCommieDuck> qjsgkem: Would I then run into issues with running other applications on it? that is, I figured if I'm gonna use a pi rather than a barebones board, I may as well use the power and attach a camera or something
[23:21] <TheCommieDuck> (I'm a kernel noob and/or idiot)
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[23:22] <Tenkawa> wow..... now thats a build failure
[23:22] <Tenkawa> oucg
[23:22] <Tenkawa> er ouch
[23:22] <TheCommieDuck> or at least have /something/ to say 'this is a flying pi' rather than 'I am wasting power doing motor control'
[23:22] <qjsgkem> well, that was my kneejerk reply to "realtime". if you really need "hard realtime", use a realtime OS. for "soft realtime" you should be OK with linux and enough CPU.
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[23:22] <TheCommieDuck> hm, okay
[23:23] <Synn> added firewall rule to allow me to ssh
[23:23] <Synn> yay, I can finally ssh, mechanical keyboards ftw
[23:24] <Synn> Now gottta get this streaming crap to work... or just scp every single filleeee
[23:24] <qjsgkem> hmm? you had a nuclear keyboard before?
[23:24] <Synn> lul, like hell
[23:24] <TheCommieDuck> I guess the 3rd option is to have pi control with a backup arduino, but that screams overkill :p
[23:25] <Nefarious___> http://blog.oscarliang.net/remote-controlled-quadcopter-based-raspberry-pi/ read the bottom bit
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[23:25] <Synn> I had the merc gaming keyboard
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[23:25] <Synn> pretty crap, but the pad pad was nice
[23:25] <Synn> game pad**
[23:25] <qjsgkem> ah, K
[23:25] <Tenkawa> qjsgkem: so hows the setup going?
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[23:26] <qjsgkem> Tenkawa: slowly... got distrcated planning/buying stuff for a little hardware project;)
[23:26] <Tenkawa> qjsgkem: heheh i hear ya
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[23:27] <qjsgkem> and will hafta go to bed early, like each Friday
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[23:28] <TheCommieDuck> Nefarious___: Thanks :D
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[23:28] <TheCommieDuck> I guess the question I'll have to discover the answer to myself is whether I'd be able to run soft realtime stability AND video recording at the same time :p
[23:28] <davor> I have an opportunity to show off the Pi and introduce other kids my age (14-18) to it. any recommendations on what I could put together to make them think "hey, that's pretty cool, I could do that!" ?
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[23:29] <Nefarious___> TheDuck: np. is that real time video streaming?
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[23:29] <Nefarious___> that'd be cool
[23:29] <TheCommieDuck> Nefarious___: right now everything is in the 'can I do this? it sounds cool' region of research
[23:29] <davor> that'd be my presentation among some others for the european programming day at my school
[23:29] <Tenkawa> davor: wow.. theres so many ideas
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[23:30] <TheCommieDuck> what I'd love to do is have a copter powered nothing but the pi with a realtime video stream, but that sounds pushing it
[23:30] <Nefarious___> davor: something money related
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[23:30] <davor> I need to fit it together in ~40 minutes, just to make 'em bite
[23:30] <davor> remove "together" from that sentence
[23:30] <qjsgkem> Nefarious___: mining bitcoins with the VC? ;)
[23:30] <Triffid_Hunter> davor: hd video, quake3, then maybe a quick SDL tut perhaps? SDL works with the pi's GPU doesn't it?
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[23:31] <Nefarious___> qjsgkem: lol. that'd be popular
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[23:31] <TheCommieDuck> I'd say a portable MAME thing
[23:31] <davor> it should be programming-related Triffid_Hunter, so some python programming with the GPIO maybe
[23:31] <Tenkawa> davor: the thing to ask is what do these students like
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[23:32] <clever> TheCommieDuck: http://spritesmods.com/?art=rpi_arcade
[23:32] <davor> hm, I've no idea. I know they're already interested in that world, but most of them have never heard of the Pi
[23:32] <Triffid_Hunter> davor: I'd say doing a crude 3d game with SDL might be more engaging than blinkenlights for your target age bracket
[23:32] <Tenkawa> davor: you could program some motorized display
[23:32] <Nefarious___> TheCommieDuck: I'd leave raspberry pi to computing, arduino to automatic stabilising and control
[23:32] <davor> I don't know if I'd know how to do that Triffid_Hunter haha
[23:32] <Tenkawa> interface with something r/c?
[23:32] <clever> TheCommieDuck: 6 buttons plus joystick plus 2 lcd displays, battery powered, runs almost any classic game
[23:32] <davor> Tenkawa, I thought maybe driving an LED matrix with an extender chip
[23:33] <Tenkawa> nice
[23:33] <davor> but that's a bit meh
[23:33] <davor> I mean, I don't know how to make a spectrum analyzer myself or something
[23:33] <Tenkawa> doesnt have to be meh
[23:33] <Tenkawa> especially if theres enough leds
[23:33] <davor> only 64
[23:33] <Tenkawa> you could do some animation
[23:33] <TheCommieDuck> I don't know whether there's a straight answer, but:
[23:33] <qjsgkem> clever: that was the ARM before the raspi for me, actually
[23:34] <TheCommieDuck> would going pi-arduino-i2c sensors be a faster alternative to pi-i2c sensors?
[23:34] <clever> qjsgkem: ?
[23:34] <Nefarious___> davor: if it were me: quake, Linux exploration, some gpio stuff, then examples of automation
[23:34] <Tenkawa> linux alone interested me in the rpi
[23:34] <qjsgkem> a gp2x wiz
[23:34] <Tenkawa> however i've been a linux geek for 20 years
[23:34] <davor> these kids aren't familiar with linux mostly, though
[23:35] <Tenkawa> true
[23:35] <davor> I mean they've heard of it, that's about it
[23:35] <davor> so that's another thing to factor in
[23:35] <Nefarious___> so introduce them to it
[23:35] <TheCommieDuck> huh..seems you'd need completely separate electronics for pi direct to the motors
[23:35] <davor> yeah that's what reeled me in too
[23:35] <Nefarious___> and me
[23:35] <davor> yeah I'd definitely have to talk about the system itself a bit
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[23:36] <Tenkawa> ufgh.. clang hates me tonight
[23:37] <davor> also what absolutely made me love the Pi was how simple it was to build something, physically, and then drive it with the Pi even though I only have very basic python knowledge
[23:37] <Nefarious___> davor: the ideas I mentioned would be enough to persuade me to buy one... and I'm 15 :P
[23:37] <davor> hehe, can you elaborate on Linux exploration (what exactly that would imply), as well as GPIO stuff and automation?
[23:37] <davor> what precisely do you have in mind?
[23:38] * Tenkawa has 4 rpis, one beaglebone black, and a freescale i.mx6 just because of the arm architecture
[23:39] <qjsgkem> well, I have an ARM920T with 512kB RAM and 128x160 mono display:-P
[23:39] <TheCommieDuck> hm.
[23:40] <qjsgkem> which emulates a bizarre CPU on which a reverse-polish end user language is executed.
[23:40] <TheCommieDuck> would it be easy to make a pi double up as a media centre to stream over wifi or whatever...AND as a standalone video player?
[23:40] <TheCommieDuck> or is that pushing its capability
[23:40] <qjsgkem> aka hewlett packard hp50g ;)
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[23:41] <Nefarious___> davor I guess I was rather vague. Linux exploration: boot into x (startx) and navigate around, maybe show scratch and python _(Ubuntu laptop might be better). automation: webserver with ip camera/webserver + calculation of electricity/automatic feeder/blind shutter/etc. look on instructables!
[23:41] <Tenkawa> so any of you slackware users?
[23:42] <Vialas> hello everyone
[23:42] <shiftplusone> 'morning Vialas
[23:42] <Tenkawa> if so whats been your biggest challenge(s) with slack?
[23:42] <Vialas> hey shiftplusone
[23:42] <Vialas> everyone here about wolfram + raspberry pi ?
[23:42] <Vialas> :D
[23:42] <Tenkawa> eh?
[23:43] <shiftplusone> yeah, never used it though, so not too excited about it or anything.
[23:43] <ShorTie> but where is wolfram ??
[23:43] <Tenkawa> i'm lost
[23:43] <shiftplusone> Tenkawa, http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/5282
[23:44] <Tenkawa> thanks
[23:44] <Tenkawa> oh thats cool
[23:44] <Tenkawa> couldve used that 20 years ago heheh
[23:44] <davor> Nefarious___, yeah that sounds great, thanks man. I'm more inclined towards directly interacting with the GPIO, an automatic feeder or something alike sounds great in that aspect (I mean mainly because the occassion is programming day heh)
[23:44] <Tenkawa> that is really neat news
[23:45] <Nefarious___> davor: no problem. I'll link you some project ideas
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[23:45] <Tenkawa> matlab and maple next??
[23:45] <Tenkawa> hehej
[23:45] <Tenkawa> jk
[23:45] <davor> oh yeah that wolfram stuff is pretty cool too, as a bit of sugar on top
[23:45] <Tenkawa> indeed
[23:45] <Nefarious___> davor, http://www.instructables.com/id/Multiple-Raspberry-PI-3D-Scanner/
[23:46] <Nefarious___> http://www.instructables.com/id/NaCade-The-Naked-Raspberry-Pi-Arcade-Machine/
[23:46] <davor> I mean we are all going to high school heh, and most of them will end up on an IT uni
[23:46] <clever> http://spritesmods.com/?art=rpi_arcade
[23:46] <clever> another arcade box
[23:46] <Nefarious___> http://www.instructables.com/id/Internet-Laundry/
[23:47] <Tenkawa> davor: what programming languages they teaching in schools nowadays? ( pre-college)
[23:47] * Tenkawa only had pascal when he was in school
[23:47] <Nefarious___> davor: you have to show them parallel processing!!!! with the 64/33 raspberry Pi's!!
[23:47] <davor> most of us know only python
[23:47] <shiftplusone> Over here in Australia... MS Word =P
[23:47] <davor> some know C too
[23:48] <davor> in my school
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[23:48] <TheCommieDuck> Tenkawa: I imagine python
[23:48] <Nefarious___> davor: search Beowulf cluster raspberry pi
[23:48] <davor> Nefarious___, hahaha, I think that might be a bit much :p
[23:48] <TheCommieDuck> By the sounds of it it's mostly python or java
[23:48] <Tenkawa> TheCommieDuck: leaps and bounds beyond what we had avail in the late 80's
[23:49] <davor> python here, but it's not a mandatory class
[23:49] <Nefarious___> davor: obviously don't make it ;) its an example of possibilities
[23:49] <davor> extra-curricular, taught by our computer science teacher
[23:49] <davor> yeah I know haha
[23:49] <davor> but yeah it's pretty cool
[23:49] <davor> I'll definitely mention it
[23:49] <Tenkawa> although i've pondered learning assembly again (would need to learn the arm instruction set)
[23:49] <TheCommieDuck> Tenkawa: I never understand that comparison. We're not in the 80s :p
[23:50] <TheCommieDuck> and huh...would a generic LCD screen work just as well as one of these designed specifically for pis? They're about 1/3rd the price..
[23:50] <Tenkawa> TheCommieDuck: my point is that we were too limited in our thought of the potential
[23:50] <Vialas> yes it is good news Tenkawa
[23:51] <TheCommieDuck> seems to be the same price for a 2" pi screen and a 10" regular screen
[23:51] <Tenkawa> TheCommieDuck: i personally learned assembly because i liked computers however my area never thought programming classes had any potential
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[23:51] <Tenkawa> TheCommieDuck: the mentality has changed dramaticly overall
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[23:52] <Tenkawa> i think in a very positive way
[23:52] <SpeedEvil> TheCommieDuck: Some generic screens will work - composite out ones for example. Any other sort may not.
[23:52] * Nefarious___ is going to bed so goodnight/morning/afternoon/evening/whatever
[23:53] <TheCommieDuck> g'night, thanks :P
[23:53] * Nefarious___ is now known as Nefarious_`AFK
[23:53] <Tenkawa> yeah i need to run too.... cheers all
[23:53] <Nefarious_`AFK> no probs
[23:53] <TheCommieDuck> SpeedEvil: Ah, thanks :p
[23:53] <Tenkawa> good luck with the projects all
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[23:53] <TheCommieDuck> screens are expensive D:
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[23:55] <davor> I think I might stick with the simple LED matrix thing for the actual real life demonstration, and just elaborate all those other projects
[23:55] <davor> those projects are brilliant
[23:55] <davor> thanks guys
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[23:58] <clever> doh, thats why i'm running out of disk space
[23:59] <clever> my kernel debug is spamming /var/log/
[23:59] <clever> 116mb of debug logs
[23:59] <hosler> turn that shit off
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[23:59] <hosler> sorry lol
[23:59] <clever> hosler: cant, its hard-coded into the kernel
[23:59] <clever> i need to comment it out, rebuild the kernel, and reboot
[23:59] <clever> simpler to just turn rsyslog off

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