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IRC Log for 2013-11-28

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[0:28] <bennypr0fane> nerdboy, I just downloaded your mpd-ready linux image for RPI. Where can I find a checksum hash?
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[0:32] * [Saint] wonders what donates "mpd-ready"
[0:33] <[Saint]> ...alsa-utils, mpd, and possibly fixed addressing to make it easier for an end user?
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[0:34] <[Saint]> Hmmm.
[0:34] <[Saint]> You could probably make a post-install script to plug into an Arch image that did all that for you.
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[0:36] <bennypr0fane> [Saint], hold on a sec
[0:36] <bennypr0fane> https://github.com/sarnold/meta-raspberrypi/wiki/Raspberry-Pi-Openbox-MPD-Image-Setup
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[0:37] <[Saint]> ah. openbox.
[0:37] <bennypr0fane> and http://www.gentoogeek.org/steves_world/raspberrypi_mpd_image_html
[0:37] <[Saint]> I was thinking headless.
[0:37] <bennypr0fane> well headless is cool once you have everything set up
[0:37] <bennypr0fane> but until then, a GUI makes me happy
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[0:38] <bennypr0fane> I downloaded it from one of these 2 sites, not sure actually
[0:38] <[Saint]> If you are comfortable with a command line, a headless mpd server is pretty trivial to whip up from an Arch base install.
[0:39] <[Saint]> Depending on your exact requirements.
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[0:39] <bennypr0fane> ...an Arch-based install is never trivial in the first place, let's just leave it at that
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[0:40] <[Saint]> Errr. Ok. If you say so.
[0:40] <bennypr0fane> maybe you can see where he keeps the checksums on that site
[0:40] <ShorTie> writing an arch image is no harder then any other .. :)~
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[0:41] <[Saint]> And there's no sense in whittling back an image built for gui into a headless one, imo.
[0:41] <[Saint]> but, whatever floats your boat.
[0:42] <bennypr0fane> yeah, I know everyone in here (except me) is an IT professional and doesn't mind building an entire Os from source, installing it only wiht CLI, I get it...
[0:42] <bennypr0fane> whatever floats *your* boat
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[0:42] <ShorTie> he was talking arch not gentoo
[0:42] <bennypr0fane> whatever
[0:42] <bennypr0fane> you know what I mean
[0:43] <[Saint]> All it really needs to do is have a fixed address (not necessary, but handy) so you know where to find it, boot to a shell, possibly mount a network share if its not got its own storage, and start the mpd daemon listening.
[0:43] <ShorTie> arch is still a package distro
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[0:43] <hybr1d8> I'm running a little mpd server built from source via 'build-root'
[0:43] <hybr1d8> Boots in about 5 seconds and only uses about 20Mb all up ;)
[0:44] <[Saint]> there we go. :)
[0:44] <bennypr0fane> I had raspbian up and running, installed mpd on it and spend like 2-3 hours trying to configure it, unsuccessfully...
[0:44] <[Saint]> hybr1d8: I'm guessing its like I thought above, pretty much just alsa-utils and mpd?
[0:44] <[Saint]> (as well as base packages)
[0:44] <[Saint]> {and deps}
[0:45] <hybr1d8> yep, with the advantage that only the bare necessary options are even compiled in
[0:45] <bennypr0fane> hybr1d8, do you have that crackling issue in Alsa fixed by a newer firmware?
[0:45] <hybr1d8> Way overkill for normal usage - but fun to do ;)
[0:45] <hybr1d8> I haven't notice it
[0:45] <hybr1d8> notice=noticed
[0:45] <bennypr0fane> well lucky you
[0:46] <bennypr0fane> http://dbader.org/blog/crackle-free-audio-on-the-raspberry-pi-with-mpd-and-pulseaudio#update1
[0:46] <[Saint]> hybr1d8: do you have a script to set this up? Or an image? Or notes on construction?
[0:46] <[Saint]> sounds like a fun way to pass an hour or so.
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[0:47] <bennypr0fane> I guess I must simply be one particularly unlucky person.
[0:47] <[Saint]> I need something to do with a bank of external drives I bought a few days ago.
[0:47] <hybr1d8> I'm not using pulseaudio - so maybe that is why I've avoided it
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[0:47] <hybr1d8> Based off https://github.com/gamaral/rpi-buildroot
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[0:48] <[Saint]> I already /have/ an audio server, but it does *far* too much...and its a little bigger than I'd like it to be.
[0:48] <bennypr0fane> Ever since I got the Rpi, I haven't been able to put it to good use for anything, after hours and hours of tinkering and tweaking
[0:48] <hybr1d8> then just used 'make menuconfig' to setup mpd etc, and finally some manual stuff in /etc/rc.local
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[0:48] * [Saint] nods
[0:49] <hybr1d8> Good usage: xbmc as media centre
[0:49] <hybr1d8> This year it'll be running my Christmas lights
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[0:49] <bennypr0fane> hybr1d8, exactly, XBMC...
[0:49] <hybr1d8> I also have one running as a boblight server (lights around the TV to match display) and doorbell
[0:50] * bennypr0fane starts to retch thinking od XBMC
[0:51] <bennypr0fane> I gotta stop this
[0:51] <bennypr0fane> sorry guys
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[0:52] <[Saint]> I...errr...what?
[0:52] <[Saint]> What's wrong with XBMC?
[0:53] <Herb_Tarlek> I dunno, it's been working pretty well for me
[0:53] <[Saint]> And about a bajillion other people.
[0:54] <bennypr0fane> Well, imagine you spend like a few hours a week for several weeks or so trying to make it work. You know, googling, reading man pages, asking around, posting in forums...
[0:54] <bennypr0fane> all for nothing
[0:54] <bennypr0fane> no success
[0:54] <[Saint]> That's not XBMC's fault.
[0:54] <bennypr0fane> no, of course it's me
[0:55] <chod> error ?
[0:55] <[Saint]> pebcak
[0:56] <bennypr0fane> faulty mains adapter, and faulty NAS
[0:56] <bennypr0fane> ARM chipset...
[0:57] <[Saint]> I, like many others, downloaded an image, wrote it to my sdcard, booted my pi, downloaded the Android remote app, and have been using it to do TV stuffs ever since.
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[0:58] <bennypr0fane> [Saint], ...and soo many of them having publishing that all over the internet! So I thought, why not me? I'm slightly more intelligetn than a chair and a keyboard combined, I can read, I can sit and type, I should try it!
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[0:59] <bennypr0fane> and still am
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[1:00] <bennypr0fane> my next beacon of hope is making that mpd image work
[1:00] <bennypr0fane> wish me luck
[1:01] <[Saint]> Ohhhhh...bloody hell.
[1:01] <[Saint]> I spent all night last night massaging a driver into compiling, holding its hand every step of the way, ...all because of an error I created.
[1:02] <[Saint]> fixed that, and then after removing all my bandaids and glue it compiles fine.
[1:02] <bennypr0fane> ...there's that feeling!
[1:02] <bennypr0fane> :-)
[1:02] <[Saint]> Oy.
[1:02] <[Saint]> Drunk compiling. Don't do it kids.
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[1:05] <[Saint]> My driver works, but for some reason its about twice the size of the without-band-aids-ugly-hacks-and-glue version and I need to start it manually each boot for some reason.
[1:06] <[Saint]> but now - yay for picoUSB wireless N adapters.
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[1:07] <[Saint]> How someone makes a wireless adapter this small is beyond me. It looks like its nothing but a USB plug with a thin plastic coating.
[1:07] <hybr1d8> elves
[1:07] <[Saint]> Its about 2mm longer than a bare USb plug.
[1:08] <[Saint]> I need to pry it out with a plastic spudger.
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[1:09] <[Saint]> I got a bunch of 'em for cheap, "clearing out the shelves so we can fill 'em with crap for Christmas" sales are great.
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[1:10] <[Saint]> $22 each, little TP_LINK 150MB/s wireless N dongles.
[1:10] <plugwash> I imagine the downside of those is the antennas are going to suck
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[1:10] <plugwash> as a rule of thumb you want your antenna to be at least a quarter wavelength in size
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[1:11] <[Saint]> I'll take my laptop for a walk around the house in a bit and see.
[1:11] <[Saint]> I have some fairly ridiculous broadcast antennae, though.
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[1:14] <[Saint]> Two absolutely ridiculous 30dBi directional parabolic antennae in the roof space and a B/G/N wireless router with two 8dBi onmis for the living space.
[1:15] <[Saint]> So even if they *are* rubbish...I would probably need to be in the neighbor's neighbor's neighbor's neighbor's yard before I noticed it.
[1:18] <[Saint]> (for comparison I think the antennae on most consumer-grade wireless routers are around 2~3dBi)
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[1:23] <Da|Mummy> anyone here use sabnzbd+ on openelec? ive some questions id like to ask
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[1:24] <Brendan_Fraser> Argh! Mummy!
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[1:55] <Da|Mummy> argh [Saint]
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[2:06] <tpw_rules> my section .start is in the elf file as told by objdump, but objcopy -j .start test.elf -o test generates an empty file. what did i do wrong?
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[2:18] <groundnuty> hey, I'm trying to get my pi not to die after a while of not using
[2:18] <groundnuty> its a wifi pi
[2:18] <groundnuty> on cable it wokrs fine
[2:18] <groundnuty> i have powersave wifi off
[2:18] <groundnuty> any ideas?
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[2:26] <ShorTie> they do that
[2:26] <ShorTie> you need a ping script
[2:26] <groundnuty> ShorTie: srsly? I mean its kinda sad
[2:27] <groundnuty> linux on board and I need a hackish ping script in cron to keep wifi alive :/
[2:27] <ShorTie> yup.
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[2:39] <clever> groundnuty: it depends on the wifi drivers and if your power supply is good enough
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[2:40] <groundnuty> clever: well the adapter http://wikidevi.com/wiki/ALFA_Network_AWUS036NHA was recomended to me on #linux-wireless
[2:40] <YellowGTO> Does the Pi have a firewall on be default?
[2:40] <sney> YellowGTO: not in the raspbian image
[2:41] <YellowGTO> Hmm
[2:41] <YellowGTO> I can't connect to my Pi
[2:41] <YellowGTO> But I can ping it
[2:41] <clever> groundnuty: it would help help to get a dmesg report after it has crashed
[2:41] <clever> YellowGTO: what error is it giving when you try to connect?
[2:41] <sney> and what are you trying to connect with
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[2:41] <sney> / to what service
[2:42] <groundnuty> clever: would love to, just when I connect ethernet cable after no wifi it does not pick it up either
[2:42] <clever> groundnuty: tv?
[2:42] <groundnuty> for the record: I have 3 different wifi adapters and I was never able to make pi stay alive
[2:43] <ShorTie> you need a ping script
[2:43] <groundnuty> clever: tv? as in screen? well I can make a cron with dmesg dump
[2:43] <clever> it might be that the wifi adapter is sucking too much power, and killing the entire system
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[2:44] <ShorTie> mine is in powered hub ans still dies
[2:44] <groundnuty> clever: I have this http://raspberrypi.dk/produkt/usb-hub-logilink-4-port-powered/
[2:44] <clever> ok, so its not that
[2:44] <groundnuty> clever: all hardware here is supposed to be very ok and compatibile
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[2:44] <clever> need an error message to know whats wrong
[2:45] <YellowGTO> live555 error: Failed to connect with rtsp://192.168.1.4:8554
[2:45] <YellowGTO> main error: open of `rtsp://192.168.1.4:8554' failed
[2:45] <YellowGTO> Sorry took me awhile to find the log
[2:46] <clever> and is that server running?
[2:46] <YellowGTO> If I connect to that on the pi it works. So I was guessing a firewall issue
[2:46] <YellowGTO> VLC
[2:46] <sney> it might just be listening on localhost
[2:46] <ShorTie> they leave out the critical info, how many amps does the power adapter supply ??
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[2:47] <YellowGTO> I don't think so sney. It looks like I configured it correctly
[2:47] <groundnuty> clever: which /var/log/ u want?
[2:48] <clever> groundnuty: kern may help
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[2:50] <sney> YellowGTO: can you run nmap to make sure your pi is listening on that port?
[2:50] <clever> YellowGTO: netstat -anp|grep 8554
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[2:51] <clever> YellowGTO: run this on the pi, then paste the output here
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[2:51] <groundnuty> clever: all I have http://nopaste.linux-dev.org/?108426
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[2:52] <groundnuty> clever: hmm or not, it seems to omit much...
[2:52] <clever> brb
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[3:00] <clever> groundnuty: nothing obvious in the logs
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[3:02] <groundnuty> clever: and here? https://www.dropbox.com/s/rwic2x2208g70bb/a.log
[3:02] <groundnuty> sory for the format, too large to pastebin
[3:03] <groundnuty> also no idea why last logs are from yesterday
[3:03] <clever> thats why it helps to connect a tv
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[3:04] <clever> you have a large chunk of null bytes in the start of the file
[3:04] <clever> looks like an improper shutdown
[3:04] <clever> yeah, theres a block of nulls before each boot
[3:04] <groundnuty> yea I just turn the power of pi off
[3:05] <clever> it might have crashed and improperly shut itself off before you noticed the problem
[3:05] <groundnuty> it might the red light is on but I have no idea what's going on
[3:05] <clever> the red light simply means it has power right now
[3:05] <clever> that doesnt tell you if the power dipped too low an hour ago
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[3:06] <groundnuty> well it has this hub + 5v/2A power source
[3:06] <groundnuty> ~1A for wifi + music usb card
[3:06] <groundnuty> 2A for pi
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[3:07] <groundnuty> i would think margin is more then enough
[3:08] <groundnuty> with ethernet I had the same device running few days
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[3:08] <groundnuty> it problme is wifi connected
[3:08] <clever> the ethernet chip is also your usb hub
[3:08] <clever> so when your on wifi, your running the ethernet chip + wifi
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[3:09] <groundnuty> well ok, does that chane anthing here?
[3:09] <linguini> I've got a 5V, .85 A, AC adapter (from B&N Nook). I want to run a Model B headless, with a network connection. Any idea whether this adapter will do the job?
[3:09] <groundnuty> i think I kinda got my pi all I can
[3:09] <clever> linguini: it might, its just barely enough, but you may have trouble if you connect anything usb
[3:10] <clever> groundnuty: can you hook up a tv to it?
[3:10] <groundnuty> i will get hdmi i guess
[3:10] <groundnuty> no ther option it seems
[3:11] <clever> bbl
[3:11] <linguini> I wonder what exactly happens if a Pi barely has enough power. I wish I understood electricity better...
[3:11] <clever> linguini: if you dont get enough current from the supply, then the voltage will simply drop
[3:11] <clever> and if the voltage drops too far, the system will crash or malfunction
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[3:15] <linguini> clever: Interesting. Hmm. Does the stock software have a "power meter"?
[3:16] <linguini> Actually, I have a Kill-A-Watt...
[3:16] <linguini> clever: Is a power supply with "too much" current a problem if it is 5V?
[3:17] <linguini> (I also have a 2A 5V AC adapter [Nook HD +, which needs to be recharged more often, so I'm less excited about using this supply with a pi])
[3:18] <linguini> I wonder if a 10A 5V adapter could harm the pi (see, I really don't understand amperage well!).
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[3:20] <clever> linguini: if you have too much current, it wont do any harm under normal conditions
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[3:21] <clever> but if you short the power out by mistake, it will do more harm then a weaker supply
[3:21] <clever> the pi has a fuse built into it, so it should be fine
[3:21] <linguini> clever: Thanks. Interesting..
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[3:28] <DrDaemonEye> I am curious to know if anyone has run Google Earth on the Pi.
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[3:29] <clever> DrDaemonEye: closed source and x86 based, wont be easy
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[3:30] <hybr1d8> won't be possible
[3:30] <DrDaemonEye> clever: this is true. NOAA here in the States provides kmz files for current weather and watches/warnings across the country and I was toying with the idea of using the pi to display that on google earth, but if it is not possible, I will look for another setup
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[3:33] <hybr1d8> You would have more luck using a webbrowser on the pi to display google maps with the kmz overlaid.
[3:33] <hybr1d8> Using google earth would just add 3d view - but considering you are only looking at a small part of the globe it wouldn't add much anyway
[3:33] <clever> DrDaemonEye: you could make a custom program that reads the kmz files
[3:34] <DrDaemonEye> I could and probably should. Be nice to have a hobby project to work on
[3:36] <clever> it would be nice to overlay it with osm
[3:36] <clever> https://help.openstreetmap.org/questions/15936/how-to-add-the-kmz-files-on-osm-map
[3:37] <clever> dang, no answer
[3:37] <clever> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/GeoConverter
[3:37] <DrDaemonEye> Well, I will look into it for sure
[3:37] <clever> this one can convert mkz to gpx files
[3:37] <clever> kmz -> gpx
[3:38] <clever> gpx is then easy to show
[3:38] <clever> brb
[3:38] <DrDaemonEye> cool
[3:40] <DrDaemonEye> So I guess a kmz is just a compressed (zip) file of a kml file, which is really xml. It is super easy to parse data from that.
[3:42] <clever> more common to find a gpx program, but then again, gpx may not allow polygons
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[3:42] <DrDaemonEye> Yea. I am going to work this out and come back with a more worked out approach if that is okay
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[8:06] <Jck_True> DrDaemonEye: http://openweathermap.org - They got an open API :)
[8:08] <DrDaemonEye> Jck_True: Ohh. Very cool. I'm about to go to bed (shortly after 2AM for me), so I will look more into it after I get some sleep
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[9:39] <VlperX> ahoy
[9:40] <VlperX> is OpenELEC debian?
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[9:49] <shiftplusone> VlperX, nope
[9:49] <shiftplusone> VlperX, it's built from scratch, not based on anything.
[9:50] <VlperX> I see
[9:50] <VlperX> I see there's the option of installing it on to Raspbian
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[9:50] <Jusii> or maybe xbmc can be installed on raspbian=
[9:51] <shiftplusone> installing what on raspbian? openelec? that makes no sense, where do you see that?
[9:51] <shiftplusone> yes, it would have to be xbmc not openelec
[9:51] <shiftplusone> unless they have done something fancy with openelec that I didn't know of
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[9:54] <VlperX> http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=9210
[9:55] <VlperX> er so I'm trying to install OpenELEC.. I have the tar. now what?
[9:55] <VlperX> I plug in my Pi and nothing is on the screen
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[9:56] <VlperX> god I need to read about this thing more
[9:56] <shiftplusone> I wouldn't trust it. Either use raspbian or openelec
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[9:57] <shiftplusone> Or rather it's too obscure to be able to get support here (possibly)
[9:57] <ShorTie> did you untar the tar file ??
[9:58] <VlperX> of course
[9:58] <VlperX> through the files directly onto the Sd
[9:58] <VlperX> I'm thinking I need NOOBS
[9:59] <ShorTie> there is a #openelec channel
[9:59] <Jusii> and looks like that post is over year old. "Do not plan to release an update for it."
[10:00] <Jusii> noobs or just install xbmc packages on raspbian
[10:00] <Jusii> would help if you told us what you want to achieve with this
[10:00] <VlperX> home media player
[10:00] <Jusii> one sdcard and you want both xbmc/openelec and raspbian?
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[10:01] <Jusii> nothing else? why then just go with plain openelec?
[10:01] <VlperX> I have two to play with atm
[10:01] <VlperX> right.. so I'm trying to find how to install it..
[10:01] <VlperX> is the Pi supposed to output anything via HDMI with no SD?
[10:01] <nid0> no
[10:02] <VlperX> phew.
[10:02] <nid0> no sd card = the pi will do nothing
[10:02] <VlperX> well I just threw the contents of the folder in the openELEC tar in the root of the SD and nothing happens
[10:02] <Jusii> sadly openelec website is under maintenance this moment
[10:02] <VlperX> MHM
[10:02] <VlperX> i'll just ask on their channel
[10:04] <Jusii> you should end up with a sdcard that has files like this on its root: bootcode.bin fixup.dat start.elf SYSTEM and KERNEL
[10:05] <Jusii> last two files are openelec
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[10:07] <Jusii> and looks like openelec.tar has a script for making card, you should use that
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[10:12] <VlperX> ya for linux =/
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[10:19] <Jusii> and you have?
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[10:28] <VlperX> I have a few linux distros but they're all VMs =/
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[10:46] <SKyd3R> Is there any interrupt handler routine I can take a look at?
[10:46] <SKyd3R> just for take an idea of what to do
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[10:47] <shiftplusone> I don't know, but what language? What library?
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[10:49] <pingo> Why would adding "tmpfs /var/log tmpfs defaults,noatime,mode=1777,size=30M 0 0" to /etc/fstab make my r.pi randomly freeze?
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[10:49] <pingo> I have the first revision
[10:49] <shiftplusone> pingo, are you sure it's related?
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[10:49] <shiftplusone> (has absolutely nothing else changed?)
[10:50] <pingo> nothing else
[10:50] <shiftplusone> and if you remove it from fstab is becomes stable again?
[10:50] <pingo> basically i wanted to find out why it is freezing so i made it log to SD card
[10:50] <pingo> and not its been stable for 24 hours while before it crashed in 15-300 minutes
[10:50] <pingo> shiftplusone yes
[10:51] <pingo> I will add it again now
[10:51] <shiftplusone> that's an odd one
[10:51] <pingo> And see if it freezes again
[10:51] <pingo> But as I said it has never come this far
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[10:52] <pingo> I removed it only to be able to preserve the logs to check for any problems after it freezes but now its not
[10:52] <SKyd3R> I'm working on Ada, but I just want to know how te deal with interrupts
[10:53] <shiftplusone> I can only recommend double checking your voltage, since that's usually the problem behind obscure issues like this, but I somehow doubt that that line would make any different to power consumption. Can't really think of anything that it might be.
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[11:03] <pingo> shiftplusone maybe it fills the quota and thats an issue
[11:03] <pingo> or maybe it fills the ram and thats an issue
[11:03] <pingo> will ask in raspbian
[11:04] <pingo> First Ill do some more tests
[11:04] <shiftplusone> pingo, worth a shot (or here when it's a little more active)
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[11:12] <troulouliou_dev> hi i have a multi purpose server at home and a linux adsl gateway; i m waking up my server with wake on lan with the raspberry; but my gateway do not support Wake on lan; is it posiible to wake up the gateway with the raspberry by wiring some pins to the power button ?
[11:12] <martk100> Is it possible to read the value of a runtime variable from a different file. The file I want to read from is a python cgi file (it used to be in perl).
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[11:31] <VlperX> hey um.. so is the only way to turn this thing on by resetting the power?
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[11:33] <shiftplusone> VlperX, there's a wake from halt feature, if that's what you mean.
[11:34] <VlperX> so if I poweroff it won't wake up without a re-plug?
[11:34] <shiftplusone> As I said, there's a wake from halt feature. http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=24682
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[12:06] <VlperX> turns out if I just plug it into my TV usb port, it'll turn on and off with the TV
[12:06] <VlperX> perfect =D
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[12:10] <ShorTie> make sure it shuts down properly before powering off
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[12:11] <shiftplusone> Hm... is it normal to set out to code an alternative to certain software and then have your software slowly become that which you were trying to replace? =/
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[12:12] <shiftplusone> Ah well, at least it will be a learning experience.
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[12:12] <ln-> VlperX: TVs often provide too little or too fluctuating power from their USB port, so expect trouble.
[12:13] <VlperX> yeah there's that. we'll see how it goes
[12:13] <ShorTie> it means great minds work alike shiftplusone
[12:14] <shiftplusone> ShorTie, or terrible minds produce the same crap.
[12:14] <ShorTie> oh come on now, that glass is hafe full
[12:15] <shiftplusone> Half full in the sense that I am learning and that's good, but I didn't set out to reinvent the wheel.
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[12:16] <shiftplusone> But yeah, it's a little reassuring as well.
[12:17] <clever> shiftplusone: still banging my head into the wall with omx
[12:17] <clever> i can sometimes get it to render directly to the output, but i still cant get yuv420 out of it
[12:17] <shiftplusone> That seems to be the general experience with those who touch omx.
[12:18] <clever> there arent any examples of how to read the output buffer of video_decode
[12:18] <clever> just how to tunnel it, and some examples of linking it into egl
[12:19] <clever> just getting it to play h264 directly to the screen is trivialy easy
[12:19] <clever> but doing anything more, isnt
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[12:24] <markedathome> In a list of stupid things to do.
[12:25] <markedathome> No 1. Mine litecoin
[12:25] <markedathome> No 2. Leave it as a background process
[12:25] <markedathome> No 3. Forget about it
[12:25] <markedathome> No 4. See that LTC/USD hit 40USD last night.
[12:25] <markedathome> No 5. Check LTC balance
[12:26] <markedathome> No 6. Realise my raspberry pi has paid for itself, the case, the sdcard, the power supply, the electricity used and the cabling
[12:28] <clever> i mined about 0.2 normal bitcoins a few years back
[12:28] <clever> and it wasnt worth the trouble of withdrawing
[12:29] <clever> now look at the price
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[12:29] <markedathome> at least you aren't the one who threw out a disk containing 7500btc (see Guardian online from yesterday
[12:30] <clever> ouch
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[13:20] <Ascavasaion> Hello there... any tips on what Image I should download to use my Pi to show movies on my television?
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[13:21] <Jusii> openelec
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[13:21] <shiftplusone> Ascavasaion, either openelec, xbian or xbmc
[13:21] <Jusii> or some other xbmc variant
[13:21] <shiftplusone> (in my personal order of preference)
[13:21] <Jusii> and there you have them
[13:22] <Ascavasaion> Shiftplusone: Hello again... and thank you.,
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[13:22] <shiftplusone> np
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[13:24] <archer72> Linux for the Rest of Us (podcast) had a spot about openelec :)
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[13:25] <archer72> They talked a while about Pi
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[13:27] <Ascavasaion> OpelElec only 96Mb???
[13:27] <Ascavasaion> Openelec
[13:27] <shiftplusone> You need more?
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[13:28] <Ascavasaion> shiftplusone: No, just surprised that it is so small. :)
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[13:28] <shiftplusone> yay
[13:29] <Ascavasaion> 2hr ETA for download.
[13:29] <Ascavasaion> 1h40 now
[13:29] <shiftplusone> time flies fast
[13:31] <Ascavasaion> Indeed it does.
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[13:46] <Ascavasaion> 30mins
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[13:57] <Dreamscape> hello all, I've just imaged my first Pi with Raspian I see it on my network and can ping it BUT i have no monitor i can use on it... so i need ssh access is ssh enabled by default on the latest raspian?
[13:57] <RaTTuS|BIG> yes
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[13:58] <Dreamscape> I'm getting connection refused, any ideas?
[13:58] <Dreamscape> (using putty)
[13:58] <RaTTuS|BIG> what IP
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[13:58] <Dreamscape> 192.168.56.1
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[13:58] <RaTTuS|BIG> is this noobs or raspbian
[13:58] <Dreamscape> raspbian
[13:59] <RaTTuS|BIG> and you are sure that 56.1 is the RPi
[13:59] <Dreamscape> must be everything else on my network runs on 0.x
[13:59] <RaTTuS|BIG> you need to be in the same network
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[13:59] <RaTTuS|BIG> umm not sure how ping would work
[13:59] <Dreamscape> yeah i am, its on ethernet which is now 56.xx my wifi and rest of my network is 0.xx
[14:00] <Dreamscape> Pinging 192.168.56.1 with 32 bytes of data:
[14:00] <Dreamscape> Reply from 192.168.56.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128
[14:01] <Dreamscape> Actually... 56.1 might be Virtualbox
[14:01] <Dreamscape> yeah... damn sorry thats virtualbox
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[14:04] <RaTTuS|BIG> ;-p
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[14:08] <Dreamscape> plugged it into router and i now have access thanks for the help
[14:08] <Dreamscape> :D
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[14:24] <Dreamscape> Ok guys i now have ssh access :D does it have a default gui viewer?
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[14:24] <ShorTie> ah, no
[14:24] <ShorTie> ssh is cli
[14:25] <shiftplusone> installing vnc is pretty quick if you have access to the internet.
[14:25] <Dreamscape> ok no problem I shall just setup the wifi in the shell, i prefer the shell anyway and i've configured the pi to boot into the shell rather than the gui to save resources
[14:26] <Tachyon`> the pi won't play the second season of earth, final conflict -.- bough the licenses too, just sais unknown vcodec, having to use the big machien to play it like it's 2011 or something -.-
[14:27] <clever> Tachyon`: do you know what codec it is?
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[14:27] <Tachyon`> one sec, I'll peer at the fourcc with a hex viewer
[14:27] <Tachyon`> ah, DivX 3 again
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[14:28] <Tachyon`> always problems with DivX 3 and I have the microsoft license
[14:28] <clever> i didnt think the pi had divx hardware decode
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[14:33] <Dreamscape> guys in SSH using vi my keyboard does wierd stuff when entering text why is that?
[14:33] <clever> Dreamscape: you have vim-tiny, not full vim
[14:33] <clever> use apt to install the real vim
[14:33] <Dreamscape> i need internet access :(
[14:34] <Dreamscape> which is what im trying to do now with vi haha
[14:34] <clever> i usualy fall back to nano to fix the config files
[14:34] <clever> then i fix vim and uninstall nano
[14:34] <Dreamscape> good call
[14:34] <pksato> Dreamscape: that wierd stuff?
[14:35] <Dreamscape> like if i press down it will type a capital "B"
[14:35] <Dreamscape> and all sorts of other odd things, nano is working perfect though
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[14:38] <pksato> ah... normal for Vi.
[14:38] <archer72> if you can ssh then why not scp the DEB file for vim to the pi?
[14:38] <clever> pksato: nope, full vim doesnt do that
[14:38] <clever> arrow keys work perfectly fine
[14:38] <pksato> for vi.
[14:38] <clever> tiny vi does that though
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[14:39] <Dreamscape> n00b question; how do you save/exit nano? haha whats does "^" mean? literally a ^?
[14:39] <clever> control x
[14:39] <Dreamscape> excellent thanks
[14:39] <pksato> ^ is short cut for control key.
[14:39] <Dreamscape> thank you
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[14:47] <Tachyon`> divx is just mpeg4 I think, it handles hte later versions (4+) flawlessly
[14:47] <Tachyon`> it's just divx3
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[14:49] <Dreamscape> back again i gave up on the wifi, i'm now trying to setup my windows box to share its internet connection with the pi via ethernet but its not working? i've added the gateway to /etc/network/interfaces?
[14:50] <clever> did you restart the eth0 interface?
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[14:50] <Dreamscape> i rebooted
[14:51] <clever> what does 'ip route' print?
[14:51] <clever> the gateway should show up similar to this
[14:51] <clever> default via 192.168.2.1 dev eth0 metric 2
[14:51] <Dreamscape> default via 192.168.1.2 dev eth0
[14:51] <Dreamscape> 192.168.1.0/24 dev eth0 proto kernel scope link src 192.168.1.10
[14:51] <clever> and can you ping that gateway?
[14:51] <Dreamscape> I can indeed yes
[14:52] <clever> ok, now what happens if you try to ping google.com?
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[14:52] <Dreamscape> not working :(
[14:52] <clever> what error?
[14:53] <Dreamscape> ping: unknown host http://www.google.co.uk
[14:53] <clever> dont put http:// in it
[14:53] <clever> thats not part of the domain name
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[14:53] <Dreamscape> oops :) one second, shall i add www.?
[14:54] <clever> there is already a www. in there
[14:54] <clever> ping www.google.co.uk
[14:54] <Dreamscape> pi@raspberrypi ~ $ ping www.google.co.uk
[14:54] <Dreamscape> ping: unknown host www.google.co.uk
[14:54] <clever> ok, so your problem is dns
[14:54] <clever> what is the nameserver in /etc/resolv.conf
[14:54] <Dreamscape> ahhh i forgot about that! whoops!
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[14:55] <clever> ive set things up without the help of /etc/network/interfaces
[14:55] <clever> and ive done it so many times, i can do it on a laptop without an lcd panel, blind
[14:55] <Dreamscape> it was set to 0.1 my router IP
[14:55] <Dreamscape> corrected now and resetting eth0
[14:55] <clever> you dont have to reset anything for /etc/resolv.conf
[14:56] <clever> that instantly takes effect
[14:56] <Dreamscape> oh ok
[14:56] <clever> its read by all programs, when you try to do dns
[14:56] <clever> linux, at the kernel level, doesnt have any dns support
[14:56] <clever> its purely a trick done in userspace, with one of the libs you load
[14:57] <Dreamscape> i see :) thanks
[14:57] <Dreamscape> still giving the same error
[14:57] <clever> and is the windows computer setup to actualy provide dns?
[14:57] <clever> can you ping 8.8.8.8 ?
[14:58] <Dreamscape> it should be yes and no can't ping 8.8.8.8
[14:58] <Dreamscape> domain Home
[14:58] <Dreamscape> search Home
[14:58] <Dreamscape> nameserver 192.168.1.2
[14:58] <clever> then your gateway isnt forwarding things properly
[14:58] <clever> grats, winblows is performing as expected
[14:58] <Dreamscape> thats whats in my /etc/resolv.conf
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[14:58] <Dreamscape> yeah hah, i thought it might be that
[14:59] <clever> if you want wifi, just run wpa_passphrase
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[14:59] <clever> that will give you the config that goes in /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf
[14:59] <clever> you can probly do wpa_passphrase >> /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf
[15:00] <clever> and then just unplug eth and plug in the wifi
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[15:00] <Dreamscape> ok thanks :)
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[15:10] <Dreamscape> Still not working
[15:10] <Dreamscape> http://pastebin.com/0RRfF3EK
[15:10] <Dreamscape> is my wpa_supplicant.conf correct?
[15:10] <Dreamscape> setup for WPA2-PSK AES
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[15:11] <clever> Dreamscape: looks good to me, and is wpa supplicant running?
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[15:20] <Dreamscape> sorry back
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[15:46] <Dreamscape> My pi is now on the net :D thanks to all who helped earlier
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[15:52] <Sane> Hi, I need some help. I just got my Rpi (Model B) today with a 32GB SDHC SD card pre-installed with NOOBS 1.3. After connecting it all up, it booted into NOOBS and I selected the default Raspbian OS and installed it, but after the installation I just get a blank screen, red light on, and green light on for a few minutes, then it shuts off. I seen countless mentions of this all over the net..
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[15:53] <Dreamscape> Sane I just got mine too and found a Raspbian img direct to the SD card was much easier. maybe try that?
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[15:54] <Sane> Dreamscape, okay cool, I'll try that
[15:54] <Dreamscape> Sane, this will help it's what i did and its currently working perfectly; http://xmodulo.com/2013/11/write-raspberry-pi-image-sd-card.html
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[16:28] <Sane> Dreamscape, nice it worked. It seemed that the config.txt wasn't in root when I had NOOBS on the SD card. Any recommendations in what to set in 'raspi-config'?
[16:29] <Sane> Extend filesystem if probably the only thing I'll do for now
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[16:29] <Sane> Expand*
[16:30] <Sane> is probably*
[16:30] <Dreamscape> That's good news. Extend file system for sure but else not really although someone else here might have some imput. It's all down to the user i guess, i changed alot in mine but mine is running headless with a specific use in mind so...
[16:30] <Dreamscape> Glad its working though. Enjoy
[16:31] <Davespice> Dreamscape: is your nickname anything to do with the UK rave scene? just wondering
[16:31] <Sane> raspberry
[16:31] <Sane> Opps
[16:32] <Dreamscape> It is indeed :)
[16:32] <Sane> Crap, used wrong keyboard :P
[16:32] <Dreamscape> change password too then ;)
[16:32] <Dreamscape> haha
[16:32] * Davespice nods, say no more
[16:32] <Dreamscape> you can find that option in raspi-config
[16:34] <Sane> How to adjust screen size?
[16:35] <Dreamscape> Not sure sorry I'm not running a GUI. I use the shell/SSH only.
[16:35] <Dreamscape> Someone will know here though, or perhaps google
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[16:51] <Ascavasaion> I have openelec running on the pi at last. when I plug in my 2tb HDD
[16:51] <Ascavasaion> I have openelec running on the pi at last. when I plug in my 2tb HDD in it keeps flashng that it
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[16:52] <Ascavasaion> is installing the hard dusk and then uninstallibg it.... over and over again.
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[16:54] <Ascavasaion> to the point that nothing works. the computer keeps freezing while it installs and uninstalls the external hard dusk.
[16:54] <Ascavasaion> disk
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[18:04] <porkchopdiet> I want to check if my oven is on or not using my pi. As it is three-phase current I cannot simply measure using a spool outside. What do you suggest?
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[18:07] <torkelatgenet> temperature sensor
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[18:08] <chris_99> you could always clip on a sensor over the wire
[18:08] <pksato> porkchopdiet: microwave oven?
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[18:09] <porkchopdiet> pksato: no, a large oven/stove. 4 plates and a baking oven. on/off state would be enough
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[18:10] <pksato> current sensors and adc.
[18:11] <chris_99> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Current_clamp is what i meant
[18:11] <pksato> current transformer or hall effect sensor.
[18:11] <porkchopdiet> chris_99: right, but would the 3-phase ac would cancel out the effect?
[18:12] <pksato> need three sensors, one per phase.
[18:12] <porkchopdiet> well, that would mean de-manteling the cable and I would really prefer to leave the cable alone if that is somehow possible;
[18:13] <chris_99> hmm it works with 2-phase, never used 3-phase, so can't comment
[18:13] <chris_99> *1-phase
[18:14] <porkchopdiet> furthermore: if I only use one phase, i am not certain if all phases are used at the same amount/rate or if certain plates are connected to certain phases.
[18:14] <pksato> porkchopdiet: home or industrial use?
[18:15] <chris_99> this sounds like an industrial oven
[18:15] <chris_99> failing that, just whack a temp sensor on like torkelatgenet said
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[18:15] <porkchopdiet> home use
[18:16] <porkchopdiet> it is just a "did i leave the oven on" use for my gf
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[18:19] <pksato> eletric company provide 3-phase for home users?
[18:19] <porkchopdiet> thank you guys for the input
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[18:19] <porkchopdiet> In Germany this is quite usual.
[18:20] <porkchopdiet> bye guys, I have to go.
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[18:37] <SpeedEvil> porkchopdiet: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/OWL-CM160-USB-3-Phase-Three-Sensors-Wireless-Home-Business-Energy-Monitor-/140927275075?pt=UK_Computing_Other_Computing_Networking&hash=item20cfeb9043
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[18:39] <chris_99> SpeedEvil, so in that case, does it still clamp over the full wire
[18:39] <SpeedEvil> No, each individual wire at the house inlet
[18:39] <chris_99> ah
[18:40] <SpeedEvil> But out pops a usb-serial interface which spits XML at you
[18:40] <chris_99> heh
[18:41] <chris_99> that's pretty nifty
[18:42] <SpeedEvil> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/OWL-USB-CM160-Wireless-Home-Office-Electric-Energy-Monitor-Smart-Meter-/141118304415?pt=UK_Computing_Other_Computing_Networking&hash=item20db4e709f is the similar singl ephase one
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[18:42] <chris_99> i was working on this competition a few months ago, to try to determine what appliance was turned on, based on training data, alas i didn't crack it in the end
[18:43] <chris_99> based on the wattage from the house's power line
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[18:44] <SpeedEvil> Over how many seconds?
[18:44] <SpeedEvil> I mean samplerate
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[18:44] <SpeedEvil> At 1/6hz, it's easy to pull out fridge/freezers and stuff
[18:44] <SpeedEvil> You can even get what TV program is being watched.
[18:45] <chris_99> they gave both FFT data and other stuff too
[18:45] <SpeedEvil> (for LCDs with dynamic backlight or CRTs especially)
[18:45] <chris_99> yeah i've heard the tv programme thing, that's pretty nifty
[18:46] <SpeedEvil> Stuff like ambient temperature around the fridge/freezer, fridge fullness, door openings are easy
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[20:00] <KrimZon> What's the horizontal field of view that you get from the unmodified raspicam?
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[20:21] <drag0nius_> is there some limit on ethernet cable length that rpi can power?
[20:21] <drag0nius_> or it does not matter at all?
[20:22] <sney> 100 meters
[20:23] <drag0nius_> what could be possible reason for wireless keyboard working in system selection, but not after boot?
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[20:24] <sney> power usage probably
[20:24] <drag0nius_> i've tried 2 1A chargers, 2A charger
[20:25] <drag0nius_> and so far only way everything work is when i plug it into computer
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[20:28] <smjd> Can I use High overclocking preset without worry?
[20:28] <sney> yes, just don't let [Saint] know you're considering using a heatsink
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[20:29] <sney> and just keep an eye on your stability. every chip is a little different.
[20:29] * question is now known as SpeedEvil
[20:30] <smjd> just to be clear, can I use High overclock preset in the plastic case without a heatsink?
[20:30] <GerhardSchr> is a raspberry c planned?
[20:31] <sney> smjd: yes, the heatsink thing is a joke. no raspberry pi needs a heatsink
[20:31] <smjd> okay
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[20:34] <Sonny_Jim> Is it possible to run Asterix on the Pi with an old 56k modem?
[20:35] <smjd> What does that 6v overvolt exactly mean? my Core i3 runs at max at 1.4V
[20:35] <Sonny_Jim> I keep on getting cold callers on my land line
[20:36] <drag0nius_> i rly don't get it, could it be something with my rpi that it does not work plugged to anything but PC?
[20:36] <mgottschlag> smjd: 6v? I think you mean overvolting level 6?
[20:36] <mgottschlag> that is 6*some very small voltage
[20:37] <sney> Sonny_Jim: probably. the pi is slow but there have been PBXes that were way slower. I lived on a campus that used a pentium pro for it
[20:37] <SpeedEvil> smjd: For basically any program with source, that question that can be rephrased into 'can I run whatever on a slow system with a USB port' - it's mnot
[20:37] <mgottschlag> the pi iirc runs at about 1.2V
[20:37] <Sonny_Jim> I shall have to have a google
[20:37] <sney> Sonny_Jim: just make sure it's a proper serial modem, not one that does everything in software
[20:37] <Sonny_Jim> http://www.raspberry-asterisk.org/
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[20:37] <Sonny_Jim> The plan was to hook it up to the serial port on the GPIO
[20:38] <sney> yeah. pretty much the only real option
[20:39] <Sonny_Jim> Wouldn't a USB serial dongle work?
[20:39] <sney> well, I suppose
[20:39] <Sonny_Jim> And I need to read up on how it would actually work. ie Short message saying "If you aren't a robot, press 1"
[20:39] <Sonny_Jim> Or just send a fax tone
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[20:42] <drag0nius_> hmm
[20:42] <drag0nius_> looks like it might be sth with cable
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[20:55] <GerhardSchr> I would buy a dashcam with a pi, is the pi camera a good candidat for that?
[20:55] <GerhardSchr> s/buy/build/
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[20:58] <SpeedEvil> GerhardSchr: It's not terrible.
[20:58] <SpeedEvil> It's a bit unfortunate that you can't connect >1 camera though.
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[20:59] <GerhardSchr> also in the night with car headlight?
[20:59] <SpeedEvil> I'm unsure.
[20:59] <SpeedEvil> I suspect not very well.
[21:00] <GerhardSchr> hmm
[21:00] <Sonny_Jim> Pi as a Carputer?
[21:00] <Sonny_Jim> Or just for reversing?
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[21:00] <GerhardSchr> as a dashcam
[21:01] * Sonny_Jim suddenly remembers what a dashcam is
[21:01] <GerhardSchr> ;)
[21:01] <Sonny_Jim> Not sure how sturdy it would be in a crash
[21:01] <Sonny_Jim> But fun project
[21:01] <chris_99> oh a night vision car cam would be awesome
[21:01] <GerhardSchr> pi camera with infrared...
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[21:02] <ShorTie> don't crash
[21:02] <GerhardSchr> oh I buy a pi without hdmi cable ....
[21:02] <GerhardSchr> ShorTie: only for light crashes ;)
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[21:04] <ShorTie> since 99.999% of crashes are your fault, it's just best to pay attention and not do it all
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[21:04] <GerhardSchr> :P
[21:04] <Sonny_Jim> 99.999% of crashes are GerhardSchrs fault?
[21:04] * Sonny_Jim stays well clear
[21:05] <GerhardSchr> lol
[21:05] <ShorTie> lol.
[21:05] <Sonny_Jim> Do you drive a tank?
[21:05] <GerhardSchr> <--- no
[21:05] <Sonny_Jim> You should get one
[21:05] <Sonny_Jim> But dashcam.
[21:05] <ShorTie> me, i got some old 1987 full size station wagons
[21:05] <ShorTie> they are like a tank, lol.
[21:06] <Sonny_Jim> You'd need a camera, button, seismic sensor?
[21:06] <Sonny_Jim> What's the word I'm looking for
[21:06] <Sonny_Jim> Accelerometer?
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[21:06] <Sonny_Jim> Battery backup
[21:06] <Sonny_Jim> microphone
[21:06] <ShorTie> adafruit has the noir pi cam's in stock
[21:07] <ShorTie> ordered a couple to play with .. :)~
[21:07] <Sonny_Jim> You know what would be really cool
[21:07] <Sonny_Jim> Use OpenCV to beep when the lights change to green
[21:07] <Sonny_Jim> But then, what if it's looking at the wrong set of lights?
[21:09] <ShorTie> opencv tied into the cars network to apply the brakes on red would be better
[21:09] * ShorTie to laid back to worry about when it goes green
[21:10] <Jusii> then hold brake + gas pedal on floor with cars equipped with launch control, release brake when green
[21:11] <GerhardSchr> or for a rear view camera ... pi cam or http://www.amazon.de/Audiovox-1621000-RVC1-R%C3%BCckfahrkamera/dp/B007Q0QB1O/ref=pd_sim_auto_7 with http://www.amazon.de/TaoTronics%C2%AE-TT-CM01-Zoll-Monitor-R%C3%BCckfahrkamera/dp/B004VQD966/ref=pd_sim_ce_10
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[21:11] <SiC> how do you stop the engine from stalling when you do that Jusii?
[21:12] <SiC> if you leave it out of gear, then there isn't much use for launch control
[21:12] <Sonny_Jim> You drive a car with a clutch?
[21:12] <SiC> don't most people?
[21:12] <Sonny_Jim> Nope
[21:12] <Sonny_Jim> Actually I dunno
[21:12] <mgottschlag> depends on where you are
[21:12] <SiC> are you US?
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[21:12] <Sonny_Jim> No, I'm you
[21:12] <SiC> lol
[21:13] <Sonny_Jim> It's 20:13
[21:13] <SiC> yes, not US time ;)
[21:13] <GerhardSchr> the pi has svideo in or out?
[21:13] <ShorTie> does a cluth on a tractor count ??
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[21:13] <mgottschlag> in germany, certainly most people use manual transmission
[21:14] <Sonny_Jim> GerhardSchr: Nope
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[21:14] <Sonny_Jim> Composite
[21:14] <GerhardSchr> �h
[21:14] <GerhardSchr> oh
[21:14] <GerhardSchr> yes :)
[21:14] <mgottschlag> also, out.
[21:15] <GerhardSchr> mgottschlag: you are from the gread land? ;)
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[21:15] <GerhardSchr> great
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[21:15] <Sonny_Jim> And you like F1?
[21:15] <mgottschlag> F1 sucks, just like all other motor sport :)
[21:16] <mgottschlag> also, I am currently in switzerland, but not for too long
[21:16] <Sonny_Jim> Isn't Gerhard Schroder an F1 diver or a politician?
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[21:16] <GerhardSchr> ;)
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[21:17] <Jusii> SiC: that's why I said, cars equipped with launch control
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[21:20] <Jusii> and I think they're available only on automatic and dual-clutch transmission equipped cars
[21:21] <GerhardSchr> I need a micro hdmi cable right?
[21:23] <ShorTie> nop, rPi takes full size hdmi
[21:23] <GerhardSchr> thanks
[21:23] <ShorTie> need a micro usb cable though
[21:25] <GerhardSchr> I would test my htc carger first (5V 1A) 1A is not enough?
[21:25] <sney> 1A is plenty
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[21:25] <GerhardSchr> ok
[21:26] <GerhardSchr> I 1A the max input, what the pi can handle? what is the really max amper without damage?
[21:27] <mgottschlag> doesn't matter
[21:27] <mgottschlag> the power supply current must be larger than what the pi can use, that's all
[21:27] <mgottschlag> after all, it is a voltage supply, not a constant current supply, so the current will be automatically adapted to the load
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[21:27] <GerhardSchr> k
[21:28] <GerhardSchr> when the pi is here I test it :)
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[21:29] <Sonny_Jim> Bah, need another project now
[21:29] <GerhardSchr> and ask many questions here ;) (and read forums) Don't worry I'm not a total linux noob
[21:30] <GerhardSchr> have anybody use a another usb cam?
[21:30] <Sonny_Jim> AFAIK pretty much any USB cam should work
[21:30] <Sonny_Jim> At least the two I've tried 'just worked'
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[21:30] <GerhardSchr> without extra power?
[21:30] <GerhardSchr> (usb hub)
[21:31] <GerhardSchr> ah ok a list: http://elinux.org/RPi_USB_Webcams
[21:31] <Sonny_Jim> Well, if the camera works on a Linux laptop, it *should* work on the Pi
[21:31] <Sonny_Jim> but ymmv
[21:32] <GerhardSchr> k
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[21:32] <GerhardSchr> for the rear cam or for the dashcam I do nit need 1080i/p....
[21:33] <GerhardSchr> I think if the pi record 1080p then the cpu is busy - or?
[21:33] <GerhardSchr> s/nit/not/
[21:37] <Sonny_Jim> Not really
[21:37] <Sonny_Jim> It's down to the USB bus
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[21:38] <Sonny_Jim> Actually I'm not 100% sure
[21:38] <Sonny_Jim> Depends on the effeciency of the recording app I suppose
[21:39] <Sonny_Jim> But if you are talking about a dashcam, you want to write that data to a storage device asap
[21:39] <Sonny_Jim> In case the Pi is damaged or the power goes
[21:40] <Sonny_Jim> Normally for recording you would setup a nice big memory buffer and flush that to disk occasionally
[21:40] <GerhardSchr> I would record to sd card with rotating videos...
[21:40] <Sonny_Jim> Circular buffer?
[21:40] <Sonny_Jim> You wouldn't need a very high framerate
[21:41] <Sonny_Jim> maybe even 5fps would be adequate
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[21:41] <Sonny_Jim> You could work it out though
[21:41] <GerhardSchr> I do not understand these english :P
[21:41] <Sonny_Jim> frame rate = how many times per second it records a picture
[21:41] <GerhardSchr> Circular buffer
[21:41] <Sonny_Jim> oh right
[21:42] <GerhardSchr> hdd?
[21:42] <Sonny_Jim> No, I'll try and explain like this:
[21:42] <Sonny_Jim> 1234
[21:42] <Sonny_Jim> 2345
[21:42] <Sonny_Jim> 3456
[21:42] <Sonny_Jim> 4567
[21:42] <Sonny_Jim> etc
[21:42] <Sonny_Jim> Data size is 4
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[21:43] <GerhardSchr> ah ok
[21:43] <Sonny_Jim> Actually that's just confusing
[21:43] <Sonny_Jim> The idea is you don't need a huge amount of space because you only need 10 seconds or so of video
[21:44] <Sonny_Jim> You could probably work out the maximum framerate based on how fast a car can move
[21:44] <Sonny_Jim> Then double it for a head on collision
[21:45] <GerhardSchr> I would record ~ 10-15 min, than stop, than check rotate/rm files, than start etc. etc.
[21:45] <GerhardSchr> on a 32 gb sd card
[21:45] <Sonny_Jim> Would you really need that long though?
[21:45] <GerhardSchr> like http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=61&t=12239
[21:45] <Sonny_Jim> I suppose if someone was following you too closely you'd want a record of their driving
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[21:47] <GerhardSchr> and if the car crash into my car :P
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[21:47] <korozion> I have two pi's and when trying to ping from one to the other, my ssh session drops. I can't log back in for about a minute. Is there something that would cause that?
[21:48] <korozion> oddly enough, I can ping from the other to the one no problem
[21:48] <korozion> they are both running noobs
[21:48] <Sonny_Jim> GerhardSchr: Interesting thread
[21:48] <GerhardSchr> :)
[21:48] <Sonny_Jim> korozion: Wifi or wired?
[21:48] <korozion> wired
[21:48] <Sonny_Jim> weird
[21:49] <korozion> heh, that's what I said
[21:49] <Sonny_Jim> "Finally, I don't know about the UK, but that sort of information is not always admissible in court. Especially if it's a DIY device. If you truly want something that you can use in a court of law I suggest using a commercial product."
[21:49] <korozion> I can live with the way it's working now, I'm just wondering why it's doing that
[21:49] <Sonny_Jim> That's very true
[21:49] <GerhardSchr> Sonny_Jim: the sample video on the website has a great quality... ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFQeA3epmtI )
[21:50] <korozion> any other crazy ideas for monitoring connectivity between two Pi's? I really just need to prove a link is working and not dropping
[21:50] <Sonny_Jim> korozion: Are they connected through a hub?
[21:50] <Sonny_Jim> And does the SSH log show anything interesting?
[21:52] <Lucas_dv> I have a problem starting my Pi with wifi. If I start it it appears on the local network but I can't connect it. And only the red (power) light is on.
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[21:52] <korozion> Sonny_Jim: both are connected via switches (well, layer 3 switch) then off to a network (licensed 4.9 GHz wireless). I'm about to check the logs
[21:52] <korozion> from b to a everything is normal, from a to b, a drops me out heh
[21:52] <Sonny_Jim> Lucas_dv: That's normal about the LED's, the resst of them are for the ethernet interface
[21:53] <Sonny_Jim> Although I'm pretty sure there should be at least one green LED
[21:53] <Sonny_Jim> When you say you can't connect, what are you trying to do, ssh?
[21:53] <Lucas_dv> Yes ssh
[21:53] <Sonny_Jim> What client are you using? Putty?
[21:53] <Lucas_dv> yes :)
[21:54] <Sonny_Jim> You don't get a login prompt? Putty says "timed out"?
[21:54] <Lucas_dv> ... yes
[21:54] <Lucas_dv> you can read my mind
[21:54] <Sonny_Jim> Can you ping the device
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[21:54] <Lucas_dv> I cant reach the host
[21:54] <Lucas_dv> 4/4 lost
[21:55] <Sonny_Jim> Hmm
[21:55] <Lucas_dv> oh
[21:55] <Sonny_Jim> How do you know it's on the local network then?
[21:55] <Lucas_dv> 0/4 lost
[21:56] <Lucas_dv> But i can see on the IP scanner that its is on the local network
[21:57] <Sonny_Jim> IP scanner?
[21:57] <Sonny_Jim> You mean ping?
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[21:57] <Lucas_dv> A program called "Advanced IP scanner"
[21:57] <Sonny_Jim> Are you using DHCP?
[21:57] <Lucas_dv> yes
[21:58] <Sonny_Jim> And are you 100% sure the IP that "Advanced IP Scanner" is actually the Pi?
[21:58] <Sonny_Jim> And not some other device, like a printer, router etc
[21:58] <Sonny_Jim> Does Advanced IP Scanner tell you the MAC address?
[21:58] <Lucas_dv> I am sure it is the PI
[21:58] <Lucas_dv> Yes it starts with B8:27....
[21:58] <Lucas_dv> thats the Pi
[21:59] <Sonny_Jim> That's the ethernet port
[21:59] <Lucas_dv> I also shows the manufacturer
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[21:59] <Sonny_Jim> I thought you said it was connected via Wifi?
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[21:59] <Sonny_Jim> Also, is this Raspian or some other distro?
[22:00] <Lucas_dv> I dont have a lan connected in the pi,
[22:00] <Lucas_dv> it is Raspian
[22:00] <Sonny_Jim> What make is the wifi stick?
[22:00] <Lucas_dv> ALFA
[22:00] <Lucas_dv> manufacturer Ranklin I thought
[22:01] <Sonny_Jim> Can you plug a display into the Pi?
[22:01] <Lucas_dv> not right now...
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[22:01] <Sonny_Jim> Can you see the DHCP table of your router?
[22:02] <Lucas_dv> than I have to ask my father
[22:02] <Lucas_dv> he knows the pass
[22:02] <Sonny_Jim> I'm confused
[22:02] <Sonny_Jim> How are you sure that the address IP scanner is saying is definitely the Pi?
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[22:03] <Lucas_dv> I think I know the problem
[22:03] <Lucas_dv> What I see in the scanner is cached
[22:03] <Sonny_Jim> Huh?
[22:04] <Lucas_dv> when I ping it says cant reach host but 0 lost?!
[22:06] <Sonny_Jim> I'm convinced that it's not actually on the network
[22:06] <Macuser> Any good black friday deals?
[22:06] <Lucas_dv> Lol
[22:06] <Lucas_dv> I search the local network with the app Fing
[22:06] <Lucas_dv> and I found the IP
[22:07] <Lucas_dv> and it works
[22:07] <Lucas_dv> :D
[22:07] <Sonny_Jim> Cool
[22:07] <GerhardSchr> good night and thanks a lot!
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[22:08] <Lucas_dv> Thanks a lot with searching the problem
[22:08] <GerhardSchr> :P
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[22:08] <Lucas_dv> and I am realy happy now
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[22:09] <Lucas_dv> but I will go to sleep, bye
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