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IRC Log for 2013-11-29

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[0:21] <crumb> i need a license for mpeg to play wmv?
[0:21] <crumb> even on openelec?
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[0:26] <crumb> how do i install the license?
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[0:28] <sney> crumb: read the instructions on the raspberrypi.org page where you buy them
[0:28] <sney> it's just a license key that unlocks part of the gpu, you put it in one of the files in /boot
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[0:31] <crumb> i just wanna confirm that it'll play my wmv's
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[0:36] <ShorTie> looks like you need both decoders for wmv files
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[0:40] <PDilyard_> i have a revision 2 board, and wiringpi is reading physical pin #4 as a GPIO, but isn't it supposed to be +5V?
[0:41] <PDilyard_> ...i type `gpio readall` and it shows pin 4 and 6 as GPIO, but aren't they supposed to be 5V and Ground, respectively?
[0:41] <NucWin> gpio is 3.3v
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[0:41] <crumb> ShorTie: vc-1 AND mpeg-2?
[0:41] <crumb> why?
[0:43] <PDilyard_> this is what i get, but why is it reading pin 4 as GPIO and pin 6 as GPIO, when they should be 5V and Ground?
[0:43] <PDilyard_> http://pastebin.com/n6vijxMT
[0:43] <NucWin> http://elinux.org/images/2/2a/GPIOs.png
[0:44] <PDilyard_> NucWin, i see that, but Pin 6 is clearly "Ground", but wiringPi is reading it as GPIO11
[0:44] <PDilyard_> why is that?
[0:45] <NucWin> not sure, not use wiring pi myself :(
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[0:45] <mickn> #freebsd
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[0:45] <PDilyard_> i mean im just using the cli for testing, but it seems kinda weird that its reading that way
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[0:46] <NucWin> does wiring pi know you are using rev 2?
[0:46] <PDilyard_> yeah, if you look in my pastebin, it says Rev2 at the top
[0:49] <NucWin> strange
[0:50] <PDilyard_> but that diagram is guaranteed to be correct, right?
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[0:52] <NucWin> ive used the diagram before connecting to a rev1 board but never tried pin 4
[0:52] <ShorTie> crumb, cause that is what it says http://thedigitallifestyle.com/w/index.php/2012/08/29/what-do-the-mpeg-2-and-vc-1-decoder-options-get-you-on-the-raspberry-pi/
[0:53] <NucWin> dont have my pi with me to stick my voltmeter on it
[0:55] <PDilyard_> thats ok
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[1:34] <crumb> ShorTie: So if you want to use a Raspberry Pi to watch Windows Media Center recordings you will need the MPEG-2 decoder but unless you want to watch WMV files you don't need the VC-1 option. If you want to watch DVD files all you need is the MPEG-2 decoder. ..wtf?
[1:34] <crumb> so what's vc-1 for
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[1:37] <Triffid_Hunter> crumb: wmv
[1:37] <Dagger2> crumb: your message above claims for "WMV files"
[1:38] <Dagger2> although that seems a bit off (you can put non-VC1 video streams in WMV, I assume? and you can put VC1 streams into, say, matroska files)
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[1:40] <crumb> ok, so i don't need mpeg-2 if the wmv's just use vc-1
[1:42] <crumb> what about WMV3.. what license would that need?
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[1:51] <jasabella> is it possible to use a laptop mobile broadband modem with the raspberrypi perhaps? they connect via usb hub inside the laptop
[1:52] <jasabella> of course i will need to find an ARM driver
[1:52] <jasabella> would zadig/libusb do it?
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[1:53] <SpeedEvil> In general, they are often just usb serial and ppp
[1:54] <jasabella> yea which would makethem"easy" toworkwith
[1:54] <jasabella> (if i can find the docs)
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[1:54] <jasabella> perhaps ftdi arm driver hmmm?
[1:55] <ShorTie> check lsmod, plug it in and see if any thing new comes up in lsmod
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[1:56] <ShorTie> then check out what dmesg says about it
[1:57] <jasabella> hmmm
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[2:15] <crumb> jasabella: i've used a usb 3g modem.. who is your carrier?
[2:16] <crumb> oh, you're in australia
[2:16] <crumb> anyway, most usb devices that use a remote ndis interface are supported on linux by default
[2:17] <crumb> all you have to do is dhclient <interface>
[2:17] <crumb> iirc cdc something module
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[4:57] <smj> would it create a short circuit if I connected a powered USB hub, and powered the RPi itself with it?
[4:58] <shiftplusone> not at all
[4:58] <shiftplusone> chances are that you won't even have to plug anything into the microusb port on the pi.
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[4:59] <smj> really?
[4:59] <nerdboy> still can't get around the current limit that way
[4:59] <shiftplusone> depends on the hub, but yes.
[4:59] <nerdboy> but yeah, it'll work with stuff that doesn't pull too much
[5:00] <shiftplusone> nerdboy, are you sure you understood the question? It's a powered hub... the devices will draw power through the hub.
[5:00] <nerdboy> make custom cable if you need more power on the hub
[5:00] <nerdboy> yeah, but it still goes through the pi's soft fuse thingy
[5:00] <shiftplusone> not if it backfeeds (which it probably does)
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[5:01] <shiftplusone> so if the fuse starts to trip, it won't even matter.
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[5:01] <nerdboy> custom usb cable for the hub is the best way, and power the pi via the normal micro port
[5:01] <shiftplusone> but ideally you would cut the +5v line on the usb port.
[5:01] <nerdboy> exactly
[5:02] <shiftplusone> *(on the wire)
[5:02] <nerdboy> i do believe we're in violent agreement on this one
[5:03] <shiftplusone> definitely
[5:03] <shiftplusone> (I just don't think it's worth doing unless you have to)
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[5:12] <smj> two power plugs is just a bit inconvenient
[5:13] <smj> 100% more than necessary
[5:16] <smj> could I just insulate the pin in the connector?
[5:17] <shiftplusone> have you tried plugging the hub into the pi without powering the pi through microusb?
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[5:18] <smj> I haven't bought a hub yet
[5:18] <shiftplusone> ah
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[5:30] <nerdboy> i got a decent powered hub at newegg with a separate switch for each port
[5:31] <nerdboy> thought that was perfect for pi hacking...
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[5:42] <ArchDuke> Are there any recommended options for taking a picture with the camera at night? I get nothing but completely black pictures after 6
[5:43] <nerdboy> infrared maybe?
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[5:44] <smj> my RPi has rebooted often when I've connected my WLAN plug, is that likely to be a power supply issue?
[5:44] <sney> yes
[5:45] <sney> it seems to init usb devices at full power.
[5:45] <sney> even if they don't actually require that much for normal use
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[5:56] <shiftplusone> smj, not so much a power supply issue as a traces issue
[5:57] <shiftplusone> smj, if you upgrade your power supply, it will still happen.
[5:58] <shiftplusone> the 'fix' is either use a powered hub, or run two wires from D17 to the usb port like this http://triffid-hunter.no-ip.info/101_0120.JPG
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[6:04] <smj> okay, bookmarked it
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[6:06] <shiftplusone> if that's not enough, you may need to throw on some MLC caps on there too (also shown in the image)
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[6:15] <PDilyard> ok, here's the output of "gpio readall" http://pastebin.com/ipHKg2Mt you can see that Phys Pin 3 is on the list twice. My question is why, and how do I choose to use it as GPIO 8 and not SDA?
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[6:17] <airking> Hello!
[6:17] <airking> I've been reading up on an N64 emulator for the RasPi, does anyone know anything about it?
[6:17] <airking> A raspi would be perfect for a portable N64.
[6:18] <Sonny_Jim> PDilyard: Do you know what SDA is?
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[6:23] <Triffid_Hunter> airking: would it? pretty sure the rpi will be way too slow to simulate an N64
[6:24] <shiftplusone> airking, if you want to try it anyway, there is a thread on the forum which is something like "the state of emulation on the pi (updated)" and that has a rundown of all the options.
[6:24] <airking> It looks like it's close to full speed
[6:24] <airking> which is pretty awesome
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[6:26] <PDilyard> Sonny_Jim: I do not
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[6:27] <Sonny_Jim> PDilyard: Have a read up on what it is
[6:28] <shiftplusone> Sonny_Jim, not making it easy today, ey?
[6:28] <airking> Anywhoo, I have a seperate idea. I wanted to build a portable handheld emulator, so I could play GBA/GBC games on the go, with the ability to plug in controllers to do console emulation, like PS1 and (Hopefully!) N64.
[6:28] <Sonny_Jim> shiftplusone: It's 5AM, my answers might be kurt
[6:28] <airking> I wanted to get some help picking the parts, I'm a software guy, not really a hardware guy
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[6:32] <Sonny_Jim> PDilyard: You can use those pins for whatever
[6:32] <airking> I was hoping to get help finding a small screen, a good battery pack, and some way to map a bunch of buttons (I need to map 10 at the minimum)
[6:33] <PDilyard> Sonny_Jim: wait...you can use SDA pins for whatever?
[6:34] <shiftplusone> airking, car displays are the cheapest small screens you can get to work with a pi, a portable usb charging pack is the simplest. You can map hell of a lot of buttons to gpio if you use the matrix approach.
[6:35] <shiftplusone> PDilyard, A bit of a spoiler alert, but you're looking for this http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=44&t=46253
[6:35] <shiftplusone> (read and understand the whole thread)
[6:35] <airking> shiftplusone: I remember hearing about something called a Tweeny I think that let you make your own sort of USB gamepad, you mapped the buttons to it, and the Pi treats it as a USB keyboard.
[6:36] <shiftplusone> airking, ah, I thought you wanted to do your own gizmo. How do you intend to use controllers though? They don't often map their keys directly to the output pins and actually use some sort of serialish interface.
[6:38] <PDilyard> shiftplusone: tell me if im understanding this correctly: if I disable that driver, it will no longer act as SDA, and will be used as any other GPIO pin?
[6:38] <shiftplusone> not quiet as any other, since there's a permanent pull up resistor
[6:38] <shiftplusone> So use it as an input.
[6:39] <airking> There is a small board you can buy (The name escapes me) that you wire the buttons to, and then program that (using a PC, it's like an arduino). I was then just planning on keeping an open USB port where I can plug USB controllers into (I have a USB xbox controller).
[6:39] <shiftplusone> (or not, I suppose... just keep in mind it's there)
[6:39] <PDilyard> so will it read high as default and low if the circuit is closed?
[6:40] <PDilyard> where as a pull down will read low as default and high if the circuit is closed
[6:40] <PDilyard> (correct me if im wrong)
[6:40] <shiftplusone> PDilyard, as long as the rest of the circuit is wired appropriately, yes.
[6:40] <PDilyard> ok
[6:40] <shiftplusone> in the case of a pull-up, you will want to ground the pin to read low, and in the other case, you will want to connect it to 3.3v to read it high.
[6:41] <shiftplusone> don't assume the pin will be in input mode though. Add a resistor to prevent shorts.
[6:41] <PDilyard> shiftplusone: now, what about pin 4 for example, it reads as GPIO 9, but the diagrams show +5V
[6:42] <airking> shiftplusone: I found the name! The thing I wanted to use is called a Teensy
[6:42] <shiftplusone> PDilyard, pins 4 under what naming scheme? physical pin 4?
[6:42] <PDilyard> yes, sorry
[6:42] <shiftplusone> PDilyard, yeah, you got physical and gpio mixed up there.
[6:43] <shiftplusone> airking, that will help you hook up your own switches, but how do you plan on connecting something like an NES controller (if you are)?
[6:44] <PDilyard> shiftplusone: but my question still stands, phys pin 4 reads as GPIO 9, but it is shown on diagrams as 5 volts
[6:44] <airking> shiftplusone: I have a USB xbox controller, it has plenty of buttons, I can just re-map them in whatever OS I decide to use (Like pimame or something)
[6:44] <shiftplusone> PDilyard, ah, I see you're right. I'll look into it, brb.
[6:44] <airking> Or just buy a USB version of the controller, like a USB N64 controller
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[6:46] <shiftplusone> airking, ah ok, fair enough. I got the impression you wanted to use original controllers.
[6:46] <Sonny_Jim> airking: There's something called an iPac
[6:46] <Sonny_Jim> Which is a USB keyboard with easy to wire connectors
[6:46] <Sonny_Jim> Oh and what controllers?
[6:46] <Sonny_Jim> NES ones are very easy to wire up to GPIO
[6:46] <Sonny_Jim> SNES ones slightly harder
[6:47] <Sonny_Jim> Genesis is possible, but I haven't done it
[6:47] <airking> Sonny_Jim: Well, I don't want to be able to emulate EVERY console
[6:47] <airking> just a few
[6:47] <Sonny_Jim> http://www.ultimarc.com/ipac1.html
[6:47] <airking> for handhelds, I want GBA/GBC
[6:47] <Sonny_Jim> Have a look at RetroPie
[6:47] <Sonny_Jim> That'll do pretty much all of them
[6:47] <airking> and for consoles, I want SNES, N64, and PS1
[6:47] <shiftplusone> PDilyard, that's odd... it doesn't seem to line up. Could ask Gordon about that when he shows up. I'll keep staring at it until it makes sense though.
[6:47] <Sonny_Jim> PS1 is possible, but slow. N64 I'm not so sure
[6:47] <PDilyard> ok thank you!
[6:48] <Sonny_Jim> What's the prob with the GPIO?
[6:48] <airking> N64 is coming along
[6:48] <shiftplusone> PDilyard, ah I see... different connector
[6:48] <airking> Sonny_Jim: I saw videos ay ~80%
[6:48] <PDilyard> elaborate?
[6:48] <shiftplusone> PDilyard, that's physical pin for on P5 (the secondary connector)
[6:48] <airking> And promises for higher speeds with more optimization
[6:48] <shiftplusone> PDilyard, http://wiringpi.com/pins/
[6:48] <PDilyard> ohh i see
[6:48] <Sonny_Jim> airking: Promises promises ;)
[6:48] <shiftplusone> PDilyard, take a look at the charts... P1 and P5...
[6:49] <PDilyard> yep im looking at that now, thanks
[6:49] <shiftplusone> I would argue that gpio readall should separate them out
[6:49] <PDilyard> yeah kinda confusing at first
[6:50] <Sonny_Jim> One thing to watch out for is that some of the pins are used for the serial output
[6:50] <Sonny_Jim> So on boot up, the kernel messages toggle those pins
[6:50] <shiftplusone> not the kernel messages, but yeah.
[6:51] <Sonny_Jim> Yup
[6:51] <Sonny_Jim> Least it did when I used it
[6:51] <Sonny_Jim> Automatically sets up a serial console for you
[6:52] <shiftplusone> it would display kernel messages if you add console=ttyAMA0 to your cmdline, otherwise it just opens a tty login on there.
[6:52] <shiftplusone> (talking about raspbian here)
[6:52] <Sonny_Jim> So am I
[6:52] <Sonny_Jim> And I'm 100% sure on this
[6:52] <Sonny_Jim> 5AM or not
[6:52] <shiftplusone> I suppose you're welcome to be wrong if you wish.
[6:52] <Sonny_Jim> By default it does
[6:53] <Sonny_Jim> dwc_otg.lpm_enable=0 console=ttyAMA0,115200
[6:53] <shiftplusone> ah, excellent
[6:53] <Sonny_Jim> from /boot/cmdline.txt
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[6:54] <shiftplusone> (and yes, I was wrong, I didn't know they added it to cmdline as default)
[6:54] <Sonny_Jim> I only noticed when I had my SNES hooked up to the Pi running the controller test
[6:55] <Sonny_Jim> I'd reboot and random buttons would get pressed ;-)
[6:55] <shiftplusone> You win 5 internet victory points, Sonny_Jim.
[6:55] <Sonny_Jim> lol
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[6:59] <airking> shiftplusone: Here is a horribly shitty drawing of what I want to build
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[7:00] <Sonny_Jim> Donk
[7:00] <shiftplusone> >_<
[7:00] <airking> Can I not swear?
[7:00] <airking> Anyway
[7:00] <shiftplusone> Unfortunately not
[7:00] <airking> Here is a mockup of what I want to build
[7:00] <airking> shiftplusone: http://imgur.com/5BddsoD
[7:00] <shiftplusone> would be kind of difficult to get that size
[7:00] <Sonny_Jim> Looks suspiciously like a Gameboy Micro
[7:00] <airking> Kind of modeled it after that
[7:01] <airking> That is not even remotely to any sort of scale
[7:01] <airking> I drew it in MS paint
[7:01] <Sonny_Jim> Give it 4 face buttons or you'll just regret it
[7:01] <airking> Sonny_Jim: Probably a good idea
[7:01] <shiftplusone> Unless the third dimension is the same as the width >.>
[7:01] <airking> I just added X and Y
[7:01] <airking> Wait, really?
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[7:02] <airking> The pi is only an inch .8 inches thick, sure the finished product could be under 2?
[7:02] <shiftplusone> I just think it will be hard to fit everything in that sort of form factor. You can strip the size down, but you'll need to learn a bit about electronics when you go removing unecessary parts from the screen and such.
[7:03] <airking> I've seen people trim down the pi's
[7:03] <Sonny_Jim> Get rid of the ethernet port, don't need it on a handheld really
[7:03] <airking> I guess
[7:04] <airking> I was planning on keeping the ability to plug in a keyboard
[7:04] <airking> so I was hoping I could keep the ethernet if I wanted to download games or do updates
[7:04] <shiftplusone> I don't think the size of the pi will be the major issue... just that when you connect everything together, these little things add up.
[7:04] <shiftplusone> But I don't know, I am just speculating.
[7:04] <Sonny_Jim> You see, my issue would be battery life
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[7:04] <airking> I was hoping I could cut down on thickness by widening it, put as many things next to each other, instead of on top of each other
[7:04] <shiftplusone> You can get a good few hours with a usb battery pack
[7:04] <Sonny_Jim> My old DS does a good solid 8 hours on a charge
[7:05] <Sonny_Jim> Ah, but with a backlit screen running as well?
[7:05] <Sonny_Jim> That's where the power goes
[7:05] <shiftplusone> Sonny_Jim, something like the lapdock runs for about 5 hours I think and that has a pretty big screen. But it does have a battery the size of a cat as well, so I don't know.
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[7:06] <Sonny_Jim> Reminds me of when I had my Gamegear, which should of more technically been labelled as a luggable console, rather than a handheld
[7:06] <shiftplusone> Anyway, I am looking forward to seeing the progress, sounds like an awesome project.
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[7:06] <Sonny_Jim> Yeah, always like seeing custom handhelds on HaD
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[7:07] <airking> I don't have a ruler right now, so I'm using an M51A2 20mm Dummy round, it's 6.61 inches long, and that feels a bit small. So does 7.5 inches wide seem like a good measurement?
[7:07] <steve_rox> i gots gamegears but i dont wanna gutt them for a rpi
[7:07] <Sonny_Jim> I wouldn't use any parts from a gamegear
[7:08] <Sonny_Jim> The screen was terrible
[7:08] <steve_rox> i saw someone on utube put a rpi into a case of the gamegear but it was a mess
[7:08] <steve_rox> they cut this huge ugly cat5 hole in it
[7:08] <Sonny_Jim> Urrgh
[7:08] <Sonny_Jim> Why do you need wired networking on a handheld device?
[7:08] <steve_rox> i have no idea
[7:09] <airking> I just wanted it :/
[7:09] <steve_rox> but eather way i dont want to destroy a classic peice of sega hardware
[7:09] <airking> Okay
[7:09] <airking> I'll nix it
[7:09] <Sonny_Jim> You could break it out onto a smaller connector
[7:09] <steve_rox> was thinking something like that
[7:09] <airking> So we cut off the ethernet port, and swap the USB port for 2 side by side instead of 2 stacked?
[7:09] <steve_rox> but then i noticed it would be hard to get a decient battery into it
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[7:10] <steve_rox> but yea the displays on them gamegears used to really screw my eyes up
[7:11] <steve_rox> after you look away youd see these werid pixel like lines all over your vision
[7:11] <Sonny_Jim> lol, that never happened to me but I sorta get what you mean
[7:11] <Sonny_Jim> LCD's back in the day were terrible
[7:11] <Sonny_Jim> I do get Tetris Dreams though
[7:11] <steve_rox> the pixels are much larger
[7:11] <Sonny_Jim> Officially recognised phenomena
[7:12] <airking> Anyone know of a good small screen?
[7:12] <steve_rox> i used that car reverseing display
[7:12] <airking> which one did you use?
[7:12] <shiftplusone> airking, I think you will have to hack one out of a display like steve_rox said.
[7:12] <shiftplusone> OR..... let me find the link, but it's not cheap
[7:12] <steve_rox> 3.5 inch i think it is i cant rember
[7:12] <airking> About 4 inches would be a perfect size
[7:12] <airking> 3.5 works
[7:12] <shiftplusone> also note the car ones are composite, so they're quite 'meh'
[7:13] <steve_rox> you mod it a little and it runs off a 5v line
[7:13] <airking> I was figuring composite, the N64, PS1, and SNES were all composite anyway
[7:13] <steve_rox> yeah its composite
[7:14] <shiftplusone> nvrm the screen I was thinking of is way too small.
[7:14] <airking> I found a 4.2 inch one
[7:14] <Sonny_Jim> airking: Not true
[7:14] <steve_rox> i made the rpi display in higher dpi on text
[7:14] <Sonny_Jim> SNESand N64 can output RGB
[7:15] <shiftplusone> I was thinking something like this http://s94.photobucket.com/user/TexyUK/media/null_zps07925c85.jpg.html?sort=3&o=42
[7:15] <Sonny_Jim> In fact it's the same cable
[7:15] <shiftplusone> the size of a pi, but it has a touch screen.
[7:16] <Eartaker> anyone running mod_proxy with apache on the pi?
[7:17] <steve_rox> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/New-3-5-TFT-LCD-Screen-DVD-VCR-CCTV-Monitor-For-Rear-View-Car-Reverse-Camera-UK-/321262358108?pt=UK_In_Car_Technology&hash=item4accba8e5c
[7:17] <steve_rox> thats what im using as a lcd display
[7:17] <airking> I live in the us, that shipping would be pricey
[7:17] <airking> I just found a 4 inch one
[7:18] <steve_rox> i dont know how to addapt any other models
[7:18] <steve_rox> by default they run on 12v
[7:18] <steve_rox> after mod 5v
[7:20] <airking> Could I use AA batteries?
[7:20] <airking> I really like being able to just swap batteries on the fly
[7:20] <Eartaker> you could use 4AA with a 5V reg...
[7:20] <shiftplusone> without a buck-boost converter (which you can buy on ebay for this exact purpose), it would suck.
[7:20] <airking> What would the battery life with 4AA?
[7:20] <Sonny_Jim> You could work it out
[7:20] <airking> How?
[7:21] <steve_rox> i was able to make two sets of power in wires allowing you to swap out power sources on the fly
[7:21] <Sonny_Jim> A decent AA rechargable puts out about 1800mAh
[7:21] <steve_rox> i used a diode to isolate the power source from the other
[7:21] <Eartaker> is it going in a car?
[7:21] <Sonny_Jim> The Pi uses ~700mA I think?
[7:21] <airking> I have mine overclicked
[7:21] <Sonny_Jim> Then add on whatever the screen is going to use
[7:21] <airking> Err
[7:21] <airking> overclocked
[7:21] <airking> I plan to Turbo Overclock
[7:22] <clever> i have seen some mods to make the pi run entirely off 3.3v
[7:22] <Sonny_Jim> The screen would probably need at least 5V though
[7:22] <Eartaker> so no one is using there pi as a proxy?
[7:22] <steve_rox> as a power source i got one them usb battery brick things
[7:22] <shiftplusone> airking, the current rating on this is too low, but something like this http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/390697712849
[7:22] <steve_rox> hmm haveing a rpi proxy would be interesting
[7:22] <Sonny_Jim> Eartaker: I believe there's a distro to run it as a TOR proxy
[7:22] <airking> steve_rox: I have one of those, but it's only 1000mah
[7:22] <Eartaker> Sonny_Jim: I dont want tor
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[7:23] <steve_rox> mines some insane mah rateing i forgot what now tho
[7:23] <airking> shiftplusone: What does that thing do?
[7:23] <steve_rox> batt made by ankor
[7:23] <Sonny_Jim> Eartaker: Is it just to proxy web traffic?
[7:23] <shiftplusone> airking, takes 2 AA batteries and gives you 5v out even if their voltage is over or lower than 5v.
[7:23] <Eartaker> Im working on hving apache host a front end SSL site and then beable to pass SSH over SSL
[7:23] <airking> Okay
[7:23] <steve_rox> ah according to the box its 15000 mAh
[7:23] <airking> Cool
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[7:24] <Sonny_Jim> Eartaker: Ewww
[7:24] <Sonny_Jim> Why not just have straight ssh?
[7:24] <airking> shiftplusone: So I could use 2 AA batteries to drive it?
[7:24] <airking> Or would I need 4?
[7:24] <Eartaker> Sonny_Jim: SSH itself is encypted but the initial handshate is in clear text so it can be filtered by layer 7 firewalls
[7:24] <Eartaker> handshake
[7:24] <Sonny_Jim> Eartaker: I used to run it over port 443
[7:24] <shiftplusone> airking, you can use as many as you want, as long as the converter you choose allows it.
[7:25] <Eartaker> Sonny_Jim: that works for a layer 3 firewall... but not a layer 7 when the protocol itself is blocked
[7:25] <steve_rox> gotta love them converter boards
[7:25] <Sonny_Jim> Eartaker: Ah I getcha
[7:25] <Eartaker> =]
[7:25] <steve_rox> i can shove something like 30v or so into mine and it will cope and shift it down to 5v
[7:25] <airking> shiftplusone: What would I need for ~6 hours of life
[7:25] <Sonny_Jim> Eartaker: Then setup a reverse ssh tunnel ;-)
[7:25] <Eartaker> Sonny_Jim: so the idea is to initiate the ssh with ssl ancrypting that initiation
[7:26] <shiftplusone> airking, if you know the current it will be running on, you can calculate a ballpark figure by calculating the Ah's you need.
[7:26] <Sonny_Jim> Eartaker: Why not just use VPN or are you expecting that to be filtered as well?
[7:26] <Sonny_Jim> I mean, what BOFH filters SSH?
[7:26] <Eartaker> Sonny_Jim: what I really need to figure out right now is how to add moduels to the apache server
[7:27] <Eartaker> vpn blocked as well
[7:27] <steve_rox> i thought havin a rpi proxy would be interesting cos you could filter out banners and other junk
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[7:27] <Sonny_Jim> Eartaker: Where is this firewall, China?
[7:27] <Sonny_Jim> steve_rox: Upside down internet!
[7:27] <Eartaker> work haha
[7:27] <steve_rox> i guess
[7:27] <Sonny_Jim> steve_rox: http://www.ex-parrot.com/pete/upside-down-ternet.html
[7:27] <steve_rox> japan has a news blackout at the moment , thats where the firewall is
[7:27] <Sonny_Jim> Eartaker: Then just do a reverse ssh tunnel over port 443
[7:28] <Sonny_Jim> Worked a treat when I used to do it
[7:28] <airking> shiftplusone: Internet says pi runs on 700ma, and that overclocking doesn't change that by more than a negligable amount
[7:29] <ArchDuke> Anyone have any luck taking pictures with the raspi cam at night? I seem to get only blackness despite which exposure I use
[7:29] <Eartaker> the protocol is blocked in and out
[7:29] <Sonny_Jim> Eartaker: :-(
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[7:29] <Eartaker> yep
[7:29] <shiftplusone> airking, add the screen. The pi itself will not need anywhere near 700mA, that's just what they recommend.
[7:29] <airking> okay, shit
[7:29] * sourcebot sets mode +b airking!*@*
[7:29] <Sonny_Jim> Eartaker: Read this? http://blog.chmd.fr/ssh-over-ssl-a-quick-and-minimal-config.html
[7:29] <shiftplusone> oh dear
[7:29] <Sonny_Jim> Whoops
[7:29] <steve_rox> haha
[7:29] <shiftplusone> airking, can you control yourself in the future?
[7:30] <Sonny_Jim> Oh he's still here
[7:30] <steve_rox> think that was a ban
[7:30] <Eartaker> Sonny_Jim: I was using that but some of the modules needed for apache are not included in the 2.2.22 distro in the rpi repo
[7:30] * shiftplusone sets mode -b airking!*@*
[7:30] <airking> okay, SHOOT
[7:30] <airking> this is going to be hard
[7:30] <shiftplusone> !resetoffences airking
[7:30] <sourcebot> shiftplusone: 's offences have been reset
[7:31] <steve_rox> !reset_rpi_too
[7:31] <Sonny_Jim> Eartaker: Ah hence the original question
[7:31] <shiftplusone> !resetoffences airking
[7:31] <sourcebot> shiftplusone: airking's offences have been reset
[7:31] <shiftplusone> the bot needs some work, it seems.
[7:31] <Sonny_Jim> Eartaker: Have you checked that VPN's won't work?
[7:33] <Eartaker> yeah
[7:33] <Sonny_Jim> Jeez
[7:33] <Sonny_Jim> Proper BOFH
[7:34] <Eartaker> well being that am IT by trade... the admins above me really know how to lock us down lol
[7:34] <airking> What would something like this draw in terms of current (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Newest-4-3-inch-LCD-TFT-Car-Monitor-for-Reverse-Back-up-Camera-View-/181169212478)?
[7:34] <airking> I can't find the specs
[7:34] <Sonny_Jim> Eartaker: Read this? http://www.gavinwill.me.uk/2012/06/raspberry-pi-and-reverse-proxy/
[7:35] <Eartaker> Sonny_Jim: that is kinda what im working on, you use the SSL proxy to forward to port 22 to open the ssh connection... the issue im having is I cant get the proxy to work right
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[7:36] <Sonny_Jim> I thought you couldn't load mod_proxy?
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[7:37] <Eartaker> I cant... but still what im trying to do
[7:37] <airking> I found a good one, but the res is to small
[7:37] <airking> drat
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[7:38] <Eartaker> I downloaded the source for 2.2.22 and compiled the mods, installed them to usr/local/apache2/moduels and they show up in there... but now cant get them into mods_available to I can use a2enmod to enable them
[7:39] <Eartaker> im close... but just stuck
[7:39] <Sonny_Jim> I take it you did modules_update?
[7:39] <Sonny_Jim> sorry, erm
[7:39] <Sonny_Jim> I have no idea, I'm going to get a coffee
[7:39] <Eartaker> lol
[7:40] <Sonny_Jim> I'm thinking of kernel modules
[7:41] <steve_rox> im thinking of sleep
[7:42] <airking> sigh... Everytime I see something I think is perfect, it's on freaking alibaba, with like, 100 pieces min order
[7:43] <Sonny_Jim> steve_rox: Trouble is, it's gone past the point of me being able to get any useful sleep
[7:43] <Sonny_Jim> So really I need a project I can tinker with until the sun comes up
[7:43] <steve_rox> sounds fun
[7:44] <Sonny_Jim> Prolly going to mess with this:
[7:44] <Sonny_Jim> https://github.com/Evrytania/LTE-Cell-Scanner
[7:46] <steve_rox> i need a new project too
[7:47] <airking> sigh, I'll just throw a post up on the Raspi subreddit asking if anyone knows of a good screen
[7:47] <Sonny_Jim> Got any old consoles?
[7:47] <Sonny_Jim> Like a NES?
[7:47] <clever> Eartaker: apache is a memory hog, and what does the pi not have much of?
[7:47] <steve_rox> i dont have a nes
[7:47] <Sonny_Jim> SNES?
[7:47] <shiftplusone> airking, the forum is a much better place.
[7:47] <steve_rox> no
[7:47] <airking> What forum?
[7:47] <Eartaker> clever: this is the only thing my pi does
[7:47] <steve_rox> but whats the project idea ? :-P
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[7:47] <airking> The Raspberry Pi forum?
[7:48] <shiftplusone> yeah
[7:48] <Sonny_Jim> http://www.instructables.com/id/NESBot-Arduino-Powered-Robot-beating-Super-Mario-/
[7:48] <Sonny_Jim> I made a SNES version of that with my Pi
[7:48] <shiftplusone> though asking on reddit AND the forum can't hurt
[7:48] <clever> Eartaker: how many concurrent requests do you expect?
[7:48] <Sonny_Jim> I'm thinking that a Megadrive/Genesis one should be do able as well
[7:48] <steve_rox> was thinking of fitting a rpi into a vcr case , but theres a risk it could be mistaken for the latest xbox
[7:49] <Sonny_Jim> lol
[7:49] <Eartaker> clever: 1
[7:49] <steve_rox> ;-)
[7:49] <Eartaker> clever: just me
[7:49] <Sonny_Jim> Ah you are into case mods?
[7:49] <steve_rox> maybes
[7:49] <steve_rox> if it has practical use
[7:50] <clever> Eartaker: your browser will still make multiple requests for a single page
[7:50] <Sonny_Jim> Wire the VCR tape head to an ADC, wire that into the GPIO and build a VCR 'floppy disk drive'
[7:50] <clever> like grabbing all of the images, css, and js files in parallel
[7:50] <steve_rox> haha
[7:51] <Sonny_Jim> Actually, that's not a bad idea
[7:51] <Sonny_Jim> There's code to convert spectrum tape images into audio and back
[7:51] <Sonny_Jim> So there's your data <-> audio convertor done
[7:51] <Sonny_Jim> Hmm
[7:52] <Sonny_Jim> I'm going to think on this one, sounds right up my alley. Stupid, pointless but it might just work
[7:52] <Eartaker> clever: its just txt... nothing crazy, it will be fine
[7:52] <Sonny_Jim> clever: He just needs it to initiate a SSH connection
[7:52] <Sonny_Jim> SSH over SSL to get through firewalls
[7:53] <clever> Sonny_Jim: ah, then apache is mega overkill :P
[7:53] <clever> lighttpd with cgi support enabled, done
[7:53] <Eartaker> and still show a page when you request an https:// site
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[7:57] <Eartaker> anyway, ssl on apache works... but I keep getting a socket write error when I try to tunnel
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[9:01] <shiftplusone> MobGod, PM me when you've fixed your connection, you're disturbing the peace.
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[9:01] * shiftplusone sets mode +b *!*mobgod@unaffiliated/mobgod
[9:02] <ShorTie> can't you just do like a 15 minute timed ban to get pass his auto reconnect
[9:03] <shiftplusone> If I can, I'd like to know about it.
[9:03] <Sonny_Jim> A bot might be able to
[9:03] <Sonny_Jim> afaik it's not in any of the IRC RFCs
[9:03] <Nefarious___> Is _BigWings_ still doing it?
[9:04] <shiftplusone> Yeah, it would be a bot feature and nef has enough going on.
[9:04] <shiftplusone> Speaking of which... Hi, Nef.
[9:04] <Nefarious___> Good morning
[9:04] <ShorTie> mirc can do it i believe
[9:04] <shiftplusone> mirc is still a thing? ew
[9:04] <Sonny_Jim> I don't think I've used mirc in over a decade
[9:05] <Nefarious___> Gamesurge had a tempban feature, up to a month or something
[9:05] <shiftplusone> Nefarious___, btw, the bot only bans and doesn't kickban =(
[9:05] <ShorTie> this is a decade old version
[9:05] <clever> Nefarious___: its a feature within chanserv, a bot ran by the network
[9:05] <clever> its not part of the irc server itself
[9:05] <Sonny_Jim> Oh ok
[9:05] <Sonny_Jim> So freenode chanserv might be able to do it?
[9:05] <clever> maybe
[9:05] <Nefarious___> clever: yep
[9:05] <clever> they use a different program for the services
[9:06] <clever> gamesurge runs srvx
[9:06] <shiftplusone> I don't see it in help
[9:06] <Sonny_Jim> Hmm
[9:06] <Nefarious___> shiftplusone: has someone been banned?:O ill fix it now (or later) depending on time
[9:07] <Sonny_Jim> Nefarious___: The swear filter only bans, it doesn't kickban
[9:07] <shiftplusone> Nefarious___, yeah, airking is the first to get banned (he wasn't doing it purpose though, so I unbanned him)
[9:07] <Sonny_Jim> Or at least it did earlier
[9:08] <ShorTie> http://wiki.barafranca.com/index.php/IRC/Commands talks about a /tban that the server takes care of it
[9:08] <Sonny_Jim> Which network is that for though?
[9:08] <clever> Sonny_Jim: it also mentions /ban which is NOT a valid command
[9:09] <clever> ShorTie: the ban command is /mode #raspberrypi +b mask
[9:09] <clever> so they are talking about client side tricks
[9:09] <Sonny_Jim> ah ok
[9:09] <clever> same as the mirc's timed ban feature
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[9:13] <Nefarious___> Lets try
[9:14] <Nefarious___> !addbadword qwerty321
[9:14] <sourcebot> Nefarious___: Badword added
[9:14] <Nefarious___> qwerty321
[9:14] <Nefarious___> qwerty321
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[9:14] <Nefarious___> qwerty321
[9:14] * sourcebot sets mode +b Nefarious___!*@*
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[9:14] <clever> i'll qwerty you!
[9:14] * shiftplusone sets mode -b Nefarious___!*@*
[9:14] <shiftplusone> could've been creative and used 'belgium'
[9:15] <clever> or you can go qwerty yourself!, lol
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[9:16] <clever> grats, you qertyd yourself!
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[9:17] <Nefarious___> At least it works now :P
[9:17] <Sonny_Jim> You can take this keyboard and shove it up your qwerty!
[9:17] <Sonny_Jim> Sideways!
[9:17] * ShorTie snickers
[9:18] <clever> are fragile warnings against the rules? http://imageshack.us/a/img853/747/gbqm.jpg
[9:18] <clever> its just a standard warning saying to handle with care!
[9:18] <Sonny_Jim> lol
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[9:19] <Sonny_Jim> Warning: Hidden dip!
[9:19] <Sonny_Jim> http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-32GgRKlGsLo/ThtjWRtdBlI/AAAAAAAAJvE/tFwCvTabuHA/s1600/tumblr_lo6fjbsT8S1qbohddo1_r1_500.jpg
[9:19] <clever> lol
[9:19] <Nefarious___> I've got to go cya
[9:19] <Sonny_Jim> Toodlepip
[9:21] <Sonny_Jim> Here's a good one from xkcd:
[9:21] <Sonny_Jim> Which of the following would be brighter, in terms of the amount of energy delivered to your retina:
[9:21] <Sonny_Jim> A supernova, seen from as far away as the Sun is from the Earth, or
[9:21] <Sonny_Jim> The detonation of a hydrogen bomb pressed against your eyeball?
[9:21] <Sonny_Jim> Place your bets!
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[9:26] <Sonny_Jim> (It's the supernova, by a factor of 9)
[9:26] <nid0> having read the comic in question several days ago, am I still allowed to wager?
[9:26] <Sonny_Jim> All bets are off, unfortunately
[9:27] <gordonDrogon> and if its going fast enough, a feather can absolutely knock you over...
[9:27] <Sonny_Jim> In a vacuum
[9:27] <Pitel_IPEX> How can I make my terminal (I mean real terminal, without Xorg) font display characters like ěščř and not "squares"?
[9:27] <Sonny_Jim> Hmm
[9:27] <Sonny_Jim> I know how to do that in Putty
[9:27] <Sonny_Jim> Which isn't much help
[9:28] <clever> shiftplusone: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dd7dQh8u4Hc
[9:28] <clever> shiftplusone: 'bad' used to be a curse word in the old times
[9:29] <shiftplusone> clever, already watched it (and the Pinker lecture)
[9:29] <clever> ah
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[9:31] <Pitel_IPEX> `sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-setup` might do the trick
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[9:57] <Sonny_Jim> No wait
[9:57] <Sonny_Jim> I remember how to change the terminal
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[9:57] <Sonny_Jim> But in Gentoo
[9:58] <Sonny_Jim> Pitel_IPEX: Try raspi-config and change the locale
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[9:59] <Sonny_Jim> How do I check what my current overclock settings are?
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[10:00] <shiftplusone> Sonny_Jim, just open the config file? O_o
[10:00] <Sonny_Jim> Oh yeah
[10:00] <Sonny_Jim> Need moar coffee
[10:01] <Sonny_Jim> But in my defence, I did remember how to change the internationalisation options for Pitel_IPEX
[10:01] <shiftplusone> Assuming those apply to console fonts
[10:01] <Sonny_Jim> Well
[10:01] <Sonny_Jim> It's a start
[10:02] <Sonny_Jim> /etc/console-setup looks em, interesting
[10:02] <shiftplusone> iirc there's also some magic involved in changing the font to something with unicode characters, but I haven't looked into it.
[10:02] <Sonny_Jim> I spent an evening playing around with iconv
[10:02] <Sonny_Jim> Not fun
[10:02] <Pitel_IPEX> Sonny_Jim: yup, console-setup might do the trick. I'm now at work, connected to my pi over ssh, so I'll see how it went when I get home.
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[10:03] <Pitel_IPEX> Sonny_Jim: and my locale is already cs_CS.UTF8, but the local character like šěč just displayed squares.
[10:03] <Sonny_Jim> This might help, maybe
[10:03] <Sonny_Jim> http://www.e-rave.nl/change-default-console-font-in-debian
[10:03] <Pitel_IPEX> CODESET="Lat2" FONTFACE="Terminus" FONTSIZE="8x16" is what I ended up with
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[10:04] <Sonny_Jim> Oh
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[10:04] <Sonny_Jim> Fingers crossed
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[10:04] <Sonny_Jim> I was hoping they'd be comment examples in /etc/default/console-setup
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[10:27] <ShorTie> strap up your boots and hold on tight, lol.
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[11:58] <drag0nius> what could be the reason openelec can't play 1080p, while raspbian can?
[11:58] <drag0nius> i heard that raspbian player is some kind of extract from xbmc, so why xbmc why itself has trouble keeping up? ;/
[12:00] <Squarepy> didn´t know it couldn´t
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[12:16] <drag0nius> well it is very cluttered
[12:16] <drag0nius> like 0.3-.5 of normal speed
[12:17] <Squarepy> non overclocked?
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[12:17] <drag0nius> idk, default openelec install
[12:17] <drag0nius> 700 mhz
[12:18] <Squarepy> k
[12:18] <drag0nius> in raspbian i just gave that 50:50 graphics memory in config
[12:18] <Squarepy> yeah
[12:18] <Matt> odd
[12:19] <Matt> openelec on my pi doesn't have any issues
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[12:20] <Squarepy> mine too, although I improved the speed a bit via hardware
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[12:25] <drag0nius> so u can play 1080p without any problems?
[12:26] <Matt> Squarepy: hardware?
[12:26] <Matt> drag0nius: the handful of stuff I have
[12:26] <drag0nius> rescaling to 720p takes much processing?
[12:26] <Matt> most of my recordings aren't 1080p
[12:26] <Squarepy> usb-stick install fixed clock speed etc
[12:27] <drag0nius> i have most on 1080p since my pc screen is 1440p
[12:27] <Matt> VIDEO: MPEG2 720x480 (aspect 2) 29.970 fps 6000.0 kbps (750.0 kbyte/s)
[12:27] <Matt> that's most of my stuff
[12:28] <drag0nius> so thats 480p
[12:28] <drag0nius> "calculator could play that" xD
[12:29] <Matt> lol
[12:29] <Squarepy> well, mostly 800-1.5gb per movie is the range I get from the bay
[12:29] <Matt> my old cellery can't over wifi
[12:29] <pksato> drag0nius: and, on openelec have a lots of memory for GPU?
[12:30] <Matt> it's got enough CPU to play it over wired ethernet but can't keep up if you ask it to do WPA encrypted wifi as well
[12:31] <drag0nius> i'm on ethernet
[12:31] <Matt> I'm talking about my poor little celeron :)
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[12:32] <drag0nius> oh
[12:32] <Squarepy> youtube runs up to 480p after that it gets intermittent with openelec.
[12:32] <Squarepy> for me
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[15:13] <hosler> so if i connect a GPIO pin to ground and set it to output, am I greating a short circuit that will ruin that pin?
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[15:13] <SpeedEvil> hosler: No.
[15:13] <SpeedEvil> hosler: No curent will flow.
[15:14] <hosler> 3.3 to ground wont create a circuit?
[15:14] <SpeedEvil> However, it's a bad practice, as a software bug can cause lots of current to flow - if it's set wrong.
[15:14] <SpeedEvil> Setting it to output means enabling the output transistors. It does not refer to a specific high or low state.
[15:14] <hosler> oh
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[15:14] <SpeedEvil> If you set it to high, with the outputs enabled, then yes, you may damage it.
[15:15] <hosler> so it has internal pullup/pulldown resistors?
[15:15] <SpeedEvil> No, that's not relevant in this case.
[15:15] <hosler> ok
[15:15] <SpeedEvil> In general, with very few exceptions you should always connect your GPIOs through 1K resistors.
[15:15] <hosler> ok cool
[15:15] <SpeedEvil> If you're at all in doubt about 'safety' questions.
[15:16] <SpeedEvil> A 1K resistor will mean it probably won't die if you connect it to 12V, for example. Rahter than the chip exploding.
[15:16] <SpeedEvil> (probably does not mean safe)
[15:16] <SpeedEvil> And 1K does not stop LEDs, or transistors driving heavier loads working just fine.
[15:17] <hosler> so if i set to output and set to high then connect to ground, that is bad.
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[15:18] <SpeedEvil> yes. It may cause large current to flow, and potentially damage the chip.
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[15:18] <SpeedEvil> 1K resistor in series - no problem.
[15:18] <SpeedEvil> 3.3mA flows.
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[15:19] <hosler> what about digital input? do i need to worry about short circuits then when connecting a pin to ground?
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[15:20] <SpeedEvil> Inputs take no current when the voltage applied to them is between the 0 and 3.3V supply rails.
[15:21] <hosler> wow really?
[15:21] <hosler> so it just measures the potential difference without any current?
[15:21] <SpeedEvil> 'no' current isn't quite right, but it's well below a microamp
[15:22] <hosler> ok
[15:22] <hosler> so ill have no problems driving a pin low with ground without using any resistance
[15:24] <hosler> i just got an 8 channel ADC, and the doc says to tie all unused analog inputs to ground, and i really dont feel like breaking this thing yet.
[15:24] <hosler> so that's why im asking this stuff
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[15:32] <MordFustang> hi, maybe someone know if there is some sale today (black friday) in EU for raspberry pi cam?
[15:33] <SpeedEvil> MordFustang: We don't really do black friday.
[15:34] <SpeedEvil> http://www.amazon.co.uk/Black-Friday-Deals/b/ref=swm_blackfriday13braun?ie=UTF8&node=161428031&pf_rd_p=449481987&pf_rd_s=nav-sitewide-msg&pf_rd_t=4201&pf_rd_i=navbar-4201&pf_rd_m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&pf_rd_r=08P5FX0XSRM453CPJQXA amazon do have a page, for example, but earlier today it linked to the US site!
[15:34] <SpeedEvil> Which shows about how much they care
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[15:37] <MordFustang> SpeedEvil: then I will spend money on games :)
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[16:54] <airking> Is there a maximum voltage I can put into the Pi?
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[16:55] <airking> I found a 12000mAh battery that outputs 5V at 3.5A
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[16:57] <airking> Here's what I found (http://www.amazon.com/gp/customer-media/product-gallery/B008YRG5JQ/ref=cm_ciu_pdp_images_0?ie=UTF8&index=0&isremote=0)
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[16:58] <airking> Since the screen runs at 12v and I think like .2A
[16:59] <airking> That should work?
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[17:01] <SpeedEvil> The Pi requires 5V.
[17:01] <SpeedEvil> More, and it will explode.
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[17:09] <Iota> RaspberryPiBot, who owns you?
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[17:10] <Iota> RaspberryPiBot is the reason I have been signed up to spammer's mailing list.
[17:10] <Iota> I demand justice!
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[17:13] <Iota> Does nobody care? D:
[17:14] <Iota> He has clearly mishandled personal information.
[17:14] <Iota> This is outrageous.
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[17:21] [Iota TIME]
[17:21] [Iota PING]
[17:22] <Iota> datagutt, are you there?
[17:22] <datagutt> uh yeh
[17:22] <Iota> May I PM you?
[17:23] <datagutt> Sure
[17:23] <sney> o_o
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[17:32] <gordonDrogon> afternoon.
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[17:46] [CDR` VERSION]
[17:46] <CDR`> [16:09:35] [Iota]: RaspberryPiBot, who owns you?
[17:47] <Iota> Not to worry, CDR`. My issue has been resolved.
[17:47] <CDR`> Considering RaspberryPiBot's /whois is ~PircBot@unaffiliated/datagutt/bot/databot
[17:47] <CDR`> Ah ok,
[17:47] <CDR`> Was gonna say, my guess datagutt
[17:47] <Iota> Thanks.
[17:48] <datagutt> pircbot is such a shitty irc library
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[17:48] <Iota> What have you done!
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[17:48] <datagutt> oops
[17:48] <datagutt> pircbot is such a not-good irc library
[17:48] <datagutt> :P
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[17:59] <chris_99> bad bot
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[18:46] <flughafen> does anybody here have problems with audio and xbmc on their rpi?
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[18:50] <gordonDrogon> no problems at all here!
[18:50] <gordonDrogon> I don't watch video and don't listen to audo - so no problem :-)
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[18:52] <flughafen> after an update a couple of weeks ago it's just gone to hell
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[18:54] <gwlegion> bonsoir
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[18:55] <Sonny_Jim> datagutt: libircclient is pretty good
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[18:55] <gwlegion> can someone help me ??? i've got a stange error with cifs since last update
[18:55] <datagutt> Well i dislike java for sure
[18:56] <datagutt> not that familliar with C
[18:56] <datagutt> i'm a web dev guy
[18:56] <datagutt> wrote an irc library for node.js
[18:56] <gwlegion> bonsoir
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[18:58] <nerdboy> flughafen: symptoms? raspbmc?
[19:00] <nerdboy> what exactly doesn't work? can change the config through the xbmc settings?
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[19:01] <nerdboy> the alsa/firmware config is pretty simple, so maybe xbmc pushed a bug on their end?
[19:02] <nerdboy> and i *do* use an rpi for audio...
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[19:03] <flughafen> nerdboy: it bloops and bleeps a lot while playing video files,,, (i only play video files with it)
[19:03] <flughafen> nerdboy: archlinux
[19:03] <Da|Mummy> anyone here use sabnzbd+ on openelec? ive some questions id like to ask
[19:04] <nerdboy> did you try switching the config to analog and back?
[19:04] <nerdboy> i assume you're using the hdmi out normally?
[19:05] <nerdboy> you can plug some earbuds into the analog jack to test it
[19:05] <flughafen> nerdboy: no
[19:05] <flughafen> i only ever used it with hdmi
[19:05] <nerdboy> can you get a console and try aplay with a sample sound?
[19:06] <flughafen> nerdboy: where are the sample sounds?
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[19:08] <nerdboy> the wav files are typically in /usr/share/sounds/alsa/
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[19:08] <flughafen> ah thats right
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[19:10] <flughafen> nerdboy: i listened to them and i didn't hear any bleeps or bloops, although, it's not 100% of the time while watching a movie
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[19:22] <nerdboy> flughafen: i mostly use it in the car with analog out
[19:22] <nerdboy> never heard anything that weird, but i also build the os with openembedded
[19:23] <nerdboy> xbmc worked the few times i tried it, but other than that i haven't messed with it very much...
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[19:25] <flughafen> i dont like xbmc that muh
[19:25] <flughafen> much*
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[19:26] <Matt> xbmc pretty much does what I want
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[19:27] <Matt> if mythbox actually kept up with mythtv's updates, I'd be even happier
[19:27] <nerdboy> i still don't have a display...
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[19:28] <Matt> but as there's not been any development on the project since 2012, that's being particularly hopeful
[19:28] <nerdboy> other than when i test stuff
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[19:29] <nerdboy> i'll bet there are mythtv layers for openembedded...
[19:29] <flughafen> have you ever used freevo?
[19:29] <flughafen> on an platform like rpi?
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[19:30] <nerdboy> nope
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[19:33] <[Saint]> ahhhhh...man, that makes me feel a lot better.
[19:33] <Matt> nerdboy: there might be
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[19:33] <Matt> but the problem is that mythtv uses its own player
[19:34] <[Saint]> Pouring media off my desktop onto a brand spanking new raspberrypi-powered fileserver.
[19:34] <[Saint]> Cleared up over 700GB on my desktop, now it feels like it can breathe.
[19:34] <nerdboy> looks like the recipes are in oe-classic but i don't see a meta-layer for them yet...
[19:35] <nerdboy> maybe i should fix that
[19:35] <Matt> there's no way a pi is going to cope with mythfrontend
[19:35] <Matt> hence why mythbox was a nice project
[19:35] <[Saint]> It /might/.
[19:35] <[Saint]> But, not well.
[19:35] <nerdboy> somebody must have used them in oe-classic...
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[19:36] <Matt> [Saint]: have you run mythfrontend anywhere? :)
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[19:36] <nerdboy> not on a pi but something equally constrained...
[19:36] <[Saint]> I have indeed.
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[19:36] <[Saint]> But not on a pi, no.
[19:36] <Matt> plus you've have to convince it to use omxplayer
[19:37] <Matt> believe me, I'd love my pi to run mythfrontend, I just don't see it happening
[19:37] <steve_rox> whats it supposed to do?
[19:37] <x0077BE> Anyone have any insight on this? http://superuser.com/questions/682034/raspberry-pi-cannot-ping-router-or-internet-addresses-over-wifi-bridge/682075?noredirect=1#682075
[19:37] <clever> Matt: mythfrontend cant play any recorded tv thru an external player
[19:37] <clever> its just not possible
[19:37] <[Saint]> Oh, don;t get me wrong. I wasn;t suggesting it would be usable, just that it /might/ be functional. :)
[19:37] <clever> you would have to instead add omx decode to mythtv
[19:37] <x0077BE> I'm so close to having this thing working, but this is quite bizarre.
[19:37] <[Saint]> damn ; key, I can't win!
[19:38] <Matt> clever: my point exactly
[19:38] <clever> Matt: i have tried adding omx to mplayer, and got mixed results
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[19:38] <clever> if you just want to decode an audio/video file and play it directly, its trivialy simple
[19:38] <clever> if you want to use the decoding framework in ffmpeg, its a nightmare :P
[19:39] <Matt> and this is why my pi is currently running openelec
[19:39] <clever> the gpu has support to decode some file formats natively, and then handle all the audio/video decoding and sync itself
[19:39] <clever> just feed it a raw mpeg2 file and your done
[19:39] <Matt> yeah
[19:39] <clever> but then you cant do on screen display, and ive got no clue how seeking would work
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[19:40] <clever> dispman may help for the OSD
[19:40] <steve_rox> i ran out of sd cards to install xbmc , them cards by dane-elec are total rubbish
[19:40] <nid0> x0077BE: just to clarify, does your windows computer work when plugged in via a cabled connection to router 2?
[19:40] <x0077BE> nid0: Yes.
[19:40] <[Saint]> I find sdcards tend to breed.
[19:40] <x0077BE> I also configured an Ubuntu VM with bridged networking on the PC laptop.
[19:41] <x0077BE> And that also worked.
[19:41] <nid0> so windows machine with cabled connection in routers 1 & 1 works, pi with a cabled connection in 1 works but in 2 doesnt
[19:41] <steve_rox> the dane-elec cards seem unstable
[19:41] <[Saint]> I swear if left to themselves they multiply.
[19:41] <x0077BE> Yes.
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[19:41] <nid0> 1 & 2 for the windows machine*
[19:41] <steve_rox> they are not to be trusted
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[19:41] <[Saint]> I have so many of them in varying capacity floating around in the bottom of drawers or tucked away in cupboards, forgotten.
[19:41] <clever> [Saint]: i dont have enough to make a sucessfully breeding population yet :P
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[19:41] <clever> [Saint]: they keep inbreeding and dying off on me
[19:41] <[Saint]> Hahahaha :)
[19:42] <steve_rox> these ones seem to randomly corrupt
[19:42] <steve_rox> and are impossible to format
[19:42] <clever> [Saint]: the card i got from element14 with debian pre-installed just died on me this week
[19:42] <nid0> x0077BE: I assume the MAC you've specified in the question is intentionally blanked out?
[19:42] <wsmsg> anyone know how to disable screen going black? not running window manager, only console
[19:42] <Sp0tter> I'm looking to get the IR camera and use it to make my Pi a baby monitor... how should I go about illuminating the baby with IR light?
[19:42] <wsmsg> after 15m
[19:42] <x0077BE> Yes, nid0.
[19:42] <nid0> interesting
[19:42] <SpeedEvil> Sp0tter: A large roaring fire emits lots of IR.
[19:42] <x0077BE> I'm not sure it's necessary but I try not to put anything specifically identifiable on the internet.
[19:42] <clever> Sp0tter: cheap answer, duct tape arround a tv remote
[19:42] <Jusii> wsmsg: add consoleblank=0 to cmdline.txt
[19:42] <wsmsg> Jusii: hell yes, thanks a lot man
[19:42] <nerdboy> x0077BE: i don't see a default route
[19:42] <steve_rox> ir led's
[19:43] <wsmsg> also Jusii, where is that file? :)
[19:43] <[Saint]> SpeedEvil: not sure setting the baby on fire is a solution... ;)
[19:43] <clever> wsmsg: /boot/
[19:43] <steve_rox> thats true
[19:43] <wsmsg> glorious, thank you both
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[19:43] <SpeedEvil> http://dx.com/p/f5-48-ir-led-infrared-illuminator-white-261197
[19:43] <Mrgoose> sp sup
[19:43] <clever> Sp0tter: correct answer, get something like SpeedEvil's link or https://www.sparkfun.com/products/9349
[19:43] <Mrgoose> anyone ever did anything with the raspberry pi and xbox kinect?
[19:43] <Sp0tter> SpeedEvil: e was looking at things like that but not sure how to power one
[19:43] <clever> wire up a bunch, and point them at the crib
[19:43] <x0077BE> nerdboy: What flag shows a default route?
[19:43] <x0077BE> I think the 0.0.0.0 > 192.168.0.1 route is default.
[19:43] <clever> x0077BE: run 'ip route'
[19:44] <nerdboy> try look at the routing table
[19:44] <SpeedEvil> 'DC 12V' - you apply a 12V 1A or so power source, and it lights up
[19:44] <steve_rox> i need to build a ir illumination project
[19:44] <x0077BE> Result of ip route: http://pastebin.com/05YDMBLc
[19:44] <Sp0tter> steve_rox: please do!
[19:44] <nerdboy> there should one called default that points to the local gateway
[19:44] <clever> x0077BE: read the part that says 'default via'
[19:44] <Sp0tter> steve_rox: sounds like a cheap and useful kit to put together
[19:45] <nerdboy> that should be all you need
[19:45] <steve_rox> i have a rpi cam without filter
[19:45] <x0077BE> clever: Yeah, I just meant how could nerdboy tell from the ip routing table that there was no default route.
[19:45] <steve_rox> my ir lazor appears very bright on it
[19:45] <Sp0tter> steve_rox: does it work well? can you see anything without a seperate illumator at night?
[19:45] <x0077BE> It looks like there's a default route to me from "ip route"
[19:45] <nerdboy> http://paste2.org/3Ue63kP8 <= it should look like this
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[19:45] <clever> x0077BE: and can you ping the gateway its listing?
[19:45] <steve_rox> hmm i think it needs a ir source
[19:46] <steve_rox> i dont think it does long exposures
[19:46] <steve_rox> not sure
[19:46] <x0077BE> x0077BE: No, that's the problem.
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[19:46] <x0077BE> I can ping everything else on the network.
[19:46] <clever> steve_rox: one sec
[19:46] <x0077BE> And everything else can ping it.
[19:46] <clever> x0077BE: can you ping 8.8.8.8 ?
[19:46] <Sp0tter> steve_rox: i have some of those ir led's that i got for xbmc receiver a long time ago.. can probably put sometheg together but i don't know how much light is really needed
[19:46] <x0077BE> And if I plug directly into the router that's acting as the default gateway, I can ping it.
[19:46] <steve_rox> ill test some command lines on it if anyone has any
[19:46] <x0077BE> clever: No, I can't ping anything outside the local subnet.
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[19:46] <nerdboy> try "route add default gw <gw_address>
[19:47] <steve_rox> i think more than 1 led is needed
[19:47] <clever> x0077BE: then the problem is likely your gateway
[19:47] <nid0> I suppose you've made sure there are no MAC restrictions on the netgear?
[19:47] <clever> nerdboy: he already has a gateway set
[19:47] <Sp0tter> steve_rox: it may be cheaper/easier to just buy a cheap IR usb webcam
[19:47] <x0077BE> nerdboy: I think 0.0.0.0 is the default gateway.
[19:47] <Sp0tter> for my baby monitoring purpose
[19:47] <nerdboy> then why isn't there a default in the routing table pointing there?
[19:47] <steve_rox> hmmmz
[19:47] <steve_rox> possibly
[19:47] <clever> steve_rox: https://github.com/raspberrypi/userland/issues/76
[19:47] <x0077BE> nerdboy: I think it's just not called default.
[19:47] <clever> steve_rox: manual exposure controls
[19:47] <x0077BE> I've never seen the word "default" there.
[19:47] <x0077BE> On working connections.
[19:48] <steve_rox> make sure the led's on it are ir and not just plain normal ones , they love that trick
[19:48] <nerdboy> 0.0.0.0 is the Genmask for the default route
[19:48] <clever> steve_rox: you can get up to a 2 second expsure right now
[19:48] <Sp0tter> i have a Pi model B and a logitech cam that works now.. i can only get it to stream with mjpeg_server (from AUR.u sing arch linux) .. I have not gotten zone minder or ffserve/ffmpeg to work
[19:48] <nid0> you are using different commands guys
[19:48] <nid0> route -n will show 0.0.0.0
[19:48] <Sp0tter> ffserve just shoots to 100% cpu when trying to stream and nothing happens
[19:48] <nid0> route will show default
[19:48] <x0077BE> Haha, didn't notice that.
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[19:48] <nerdboy> it should say "Destination default" and "Gateway blah"
[19:48] <nid0> only with route
[19:49] <steve_rox> think i recall messing with rpi cam options but ended up freezing it
[19:49] <nerdboy> yup, and his forum post shows it missing
[19:49] <clever> nerdboy: if the mask is all 0's, then it will match any ip that doesnt hit another rule
[19:49] <nid0> the -n switch prevents name resolution
[19:49] <x0077BE> No, nerdboy.
[19:49] <nid0> in which case it shows the real address of the default route
[19:49] <nid0> which is 0.0.0.0
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[19:49] <clever> nerdboy: thats the address its trying to match against, to see if it should take that route
[19:49] <x0077BE> Here's the output of the route: http://pastebin.com/XjESr13e
[19:49] <x0077BE> Looks the same as yours basically.
[19:50] <clever> x0077BE: yep, that says that anything going to 192.168.0.x just gets fired out directly
[19:50] <clever> and all other destinations are sent to 192.168.0.1
[19:50] <nerdboy> that looks like it should work then
[19:50] <steve_rox> stay out ma router ;-)
[19:50] <clever> x0077BE: what happens when you ping 8.8.8.8?
[19:50] <x0077BE> clever: Same thing that happens when I ping 192.168.0.1
[19:50] <x0077BE> http://superuser.com/questions/682034/raspberry-pi-cannot-ping-router-or-internet-addresses-over-wifi-bridge/682075?noredirect=1#682075
[19:51] <x0077BE> "From 192.168.0.10 icmp_seq=x Destination Host Unreachable"
[19:51] <nerdboy> i don't see any errors on the interface
[19:51] <x0077BE> I don't think there are any errors on the interface.
[19:51] <nid0> are you on 10 rather than 107 now?
[19:51] <x0077BE> Yeah.
[19:51] <x0077BE> 10 is one of the RPis and 107 is another one.
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[19:51] <clever> x0077BE: ok, try using arping to ping other computers on the lan
[19:51] <x0077BE> I am swapping the SD card between them.
[19:52] <clever> x0077BE: does it come up with different macs for them?
[19:52] <x0077BE> I don't have arping on here.
[19:52] <x0077BE> I'll have to switch to Router 1 to run apt-get.
[19:52] <clever> ok, just check /proc/net/arp after you ping it normaly
[19:52] <clever> just pastebin your whole /proc/net/arp
[19:53] <x0077BE> Oh that's interesting
[19:53] <clever> they are all the same mac?
[19:53] <x0077BE> No.
[19:53] <x0077BE> But I get the same HW address for 192.168.0.2 (router 2) as for 192.168.0.1 (router 1)
[19:53] <nerdboy> arp should show your locally connected hosts and the gateway by default
[19:54] <clever> then the device behind that mac is doing funny things
[19:54] <clever> nerdboy: yeah, anything youve connected to recently
[19:54] <x0077BE> Yeah, it says the mac address of the thing I'm directly connected to for both 192.168.0.1 and 192.168.0.2
[19:54] <nerdboy> anything in the arp cache i would think
[19:55] <x0077BE> What's the big asymmetry between Rpi and these other configurations I've mentioned?
[19:55] <x0077BE> The android phone and Ubuntu VM are linux.
[19:55] <x0077BE> The Windows computer is Windows.
[19:55] <clever> ive not had anywhere near that much trouble when adding a wifi hotspot to my lan
[19:56] <clever> stock firmware, just disable the internal dhcp server and use the lan port
[19:56] <x0077BE> Everything works but the RPi, and neither Raspbmc nor Debian.
[19:56] <x0077BE> clever: What do you mean? This isn't a like adding a wifi hotspot.
[19:56] <nerdboy> logged into a raspbian card now
[19:56] <x0077BE> I have a router downstairs and a router upstairs and no way to get a cable between them.
[19:56] <clever> ah, thats different then
[19:56] <clever> more of a repeater setup
[19:57] <x0077BE> Yeah.
[19:57] <SpeedEvil> x0077BE: There is always a way.
[19:57] <nerdboy> never had any network issues with raspbian yet...
[19:57] <x0077BE> I have the second router configured fine for every other device.
[19:57] <clever> i would just mount the downstairs router on the ceiling
[19:57] <clever> so its in the middle of the 2 zones
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[19:57] <x0077BE> Well, there are other reasons to set up the repeater.
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[19:57] <x0077BE> Like I want to use the eth0 adapter on the RPi for networking.
[19:57] <x0077BE> Rather than some wifi USB stick.
[19:58] <x0077BE> But I need an Rpi upstairs running Raspbmc to control my bedroom television.
[19:58] <x0077BE> Anyway, the thing is I got everything working for every other device.
[19:58] <nerdboy> wifi worked fine testing stuff but normally use the cable
[19:58] <nid0> you said you're running dd-wrt right
[19:58] <x0077BE> Yes, dd-wrt.
[19:58] <nid0> do you have mac address cloning enabled?
[19:58] <x0077BE> No.
[19:58] <x0077BE> Should I put that on?
[19:59] <nid0> are you sure?
[19:59] <x0077BE> Oh jesus.
[19:59] <x0077BE> Haha
[19:59] <nid0> dingdingding
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[19:59] <x0077BE> I forgot I loaded a RAM backup last night.
[19:59] <x0077BE> Didn't check the MAC address cloning after that.
[20:00] <x0077BE> Might get disconnected.
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[20:11] <x0077BE> Well turning off mac address cloning seems to have brought everything into harmony.
[20:11] <x0077BE> In the sense that now nothing can connect to the internet :P
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[20:15] <autrilla> I should probably set up a store to sell the raspberry pi HTPC setup
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[20:15] <autrilla> Do you think people (not you) will pay 100€ for a HTPC with a wireless keyboard?
[20:17] <bacobart> i would not pay 100e for a raspberry pi with xbmc preinstalled and a wireless keyboard
[20:17] <bacobart> if that's what you're asking;p
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[20:18] <nid0> x0077BE: including things plugged directly into router1?
[20:19] <x0077BE> Yeah
[20:19] <nid0> well, how on earth'd you manage that
[20:19] <x0077BE> No wait
[20:19] <x0077BE> Sorry
[20:19] <x0077BE> Router 2
[20:19] <x0077BE> Everything after router 2 is bad, if router 1 went out we wouldn't be talking :P
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[20:19] <nid0> so router 1 works but nothing on router 2 does?
[20:19] <x0077BE> Yeah
[20:20] <x0077BE> I think the mac address cloning was critical for whatever reason
[20:20] <nid0> well at least thats consistent, that probably now just suggests that there's a "normal" problem with your repeating setup that having a cloned mac was just fudging
[20:20] <x0077BE> It's interesting because the mac address it was cloning isn't the mac address for any of my devices.
[20:20] <autrilla> bacobart, raspberry pi + xbmc + hdmi + ethernet + sd card
[20:20] <autrilla> bacobart, it costs mostly that if you get it yourself
[20:20] <nid0> x0077BE: presumably its the mac of router 1 though?
[20:21] <x0077BE> Nope
[20:21] <bacobart> autrilla: i'm not sure where you're getting your supplies then. last i bought a raspberry pi + casing + sd + adapter for 75
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[20:21] <bacobart> euroes
[20:21] <bacobart> euros
[20:21] <autrilla> bacobart, yeah, forgot the case
[20:21] <autrilla> bacobart, add cables, add keyboard
[20:22] <x0077BE> I think it's actually the mac address of the device itself.
[20:22] <x0077BE> The OUI search turns up a netgear router.
[20:22] <bacobart> but then you will have to support the software if you sell it as a htpc
[20:22] <bacobart> with that low of a margin
[20:22] <bacobart> why bother
[20:22] <autrilla> bacobart, oh, now I support XBMC?
[20:22] <nid0> so router 2 had cloning enabled and was manually setting its mac to what its real mac is anyway?
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[20:22] <autrilla> margin is around 33%
[20:22] <bacobart> well if you would sell me an HTPC setup
[20:22] <x0077BE> I think so.
[20:22] <bacobart> with xbmc preinstalled
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[20:23] <bacobart> then i would expect you to yes
[20:23] <bacobart> as an enduser
[20:23] <autrilla> I would provide a PDF guide
[20:23] <bacobart> if i buy a popcorn or dune mediaplayer i also expect them to support the softwar
[20:23] <bacobart> e
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[20:33] <DonUschi> Hi!
[20:33] <DonUschi> Got a new little friend here but also a little trouble. ^^
[20:34] <DonUschi> Is here anyone with a running raspian + jboss?
[20:35] <Sonny_Jim> Not used it, but what's the problem?
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[20:36] <DonUschi> I pretty much followed thi guide:
[20:37] <DonUschi> http://blog.oliver-mueller.com/-135
[20:37] <DonUschi> I get java version.
[20:37] <DonUschi> I did some export JAVA_HOME and JBOSS_HOME so the switching users in standalone.sh and add-user.sh will find those env.variables.
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[20:38] <DonUschi> but when i try those scripts i always get permission exception (with jboss or pi)
[20:39] <DonUschi> or "command not found" with jboss or pi + sudo
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[20:48] <Sonny_Jim> Hurruphm
[20:48] <Sonny_Jim> Boread
[20:48] <Sonny_Jim> *bored
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[20:49] <gwlegion> can someone help me ??? after updating my RPI, i cant anymore mount my network drives with cifs . filesystem not supported by the system
[20:52] <Sonny_Jim> gwlegion: What does cat /proc/filesystems say
[20:52] <Sonny_Jim> Do you see cifs in there?
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[20:54] <pksato> gwlegion: run this comand, ls -l /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/fs/cifs/
[20:55] <pksato> and, result list a file called cifs.ko?
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[20:57] <DonUschi> Sonny_Jom: no idea?
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[20:59] <gwlegion> cat /proc/filesystems return:
[20:59] <gwlegion> nodev sysfs
[20:59] <gwlegion> nodev rootfs
[20:59] <gwlegion> nodev bdev
[20:59] <gwlegion> nodev proc
[20:59] <gwlegion> nodev cgroup
[20:59] <gwlegion> nodev tmpfs
[20:59] <gwlegion> nodev devtmpfs
[20:59] <gwlegion> nodev debugfs
[20:59] <gwlegion> nodev sockfs
[20:59] <gwlegion> nodev pipefs
[20:59] <gwlegion> nodev anon_inodefs
[20:59] <gwlegion> nodev rpc_pipefs
[21:00] <gwlegion> ls -l /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/fs/cifs/ return cifs.ko
[21:01] <pksato> gwlegion: how you do to upgrade?
[21:01] <gwlegion> basic way ... apt-get update /apgrade / dist-upgrade
[21:03] <pksato> and. that command you use to mount? (or fstab entry)
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[21:04] <gwlegion> i've tried both ...
[21:04] <gwlegion> fstab: //server/share /media/share guest 0 0
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[21:06] <pksato> normaly, kernel auto load needs modules. Try to load cifs manualy with modprobe cifs.
[21:07] <pksato> and, if no erros, try to mount.
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[21:10] <Sonny_Jim> It's there on mine, but haven't updated in a while
[21:13] <f00bar80> is there a way to get a wireless keyboard without a usb dongle to work on raspi?
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[21:13] <f00bar80> here's the one i mean http://dx.com/p/k1280-ultra-thin-wireless-bluetooth-v3-0-78-key-keyboard-white-2-x-aaa-185710
[21:14] <pksato> but need a bluetooth dongle./
[21:16] <f00bar80> pksato, i think better to get a keyboard/mice one usb dongle
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[21:17] <andrew9183> is there a log to check why my raspberry pi wifi dongle keeps dropping out ?
[21:18] <pksato> andrew9183: /var/log/syslog
[21:18] <f00bar80> any GPIO pin can be used as an output ?
[21:18] <pksato> but, not always have a log.
[21:19] <pksato> ?
[21:20] <Matt> f00bar80: that would be the 'O' of 'GPIO'
[21:20] <pksato> General Propose Input and _Output_
[21:20] <Jusii> andrew9183: disable power saving on wifi is the most common answer
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[21:24] <DonUschi> I get java version. I did some export JAVA_HOME and JBOSS_HOME so the switching users in standalone.sh and add-user.sh will find those env.variables.
[21:24] <DonUschi> oups. wrong c&p
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[21:26] <x0077be> Is it possible that DNSMasq is causing my problems?
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[21:28] <andrew9183> thanks pksato
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[21:35] <f00bar80> Matt, i see only those as general channels 4, 17, 18, 22, 23 what about the other can't i connect them to lets say LEDs?
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[21:44] <iceTwy> Heya
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[21:45] <x0077be> Hi
[21:45] <Sonny_Jim> Hi
[21:45] <DonUschi> hi
[21:45] <Sonny_Jim> Bah
[21:45] * Sonny_Jim hates sky BB
[21:45] <iceTwy> I'm currently ordering a Type B board (http://raspberrypi.rsdelivers.com/product/raspberry-pi/raspberry-pi-type-b/raspberry-pi-type-b-single-board-computer-512mb/7568308.aspx). I'd like to know if it includes a power supply?
[21:45] <x0077be> I don't think so.
[21:45] <Sonny_Jim> Normally, no
[21:46] <iceTwy> okay, so I'd have to get one separately then
[21:46] <x0077be> Most of the time it's just a bare board.
[21:46] <x0077be> It uses micro-usb for power.
[21:46] <DonUschi> it won't
[21:46] <x0077be> So you may already have a spare phone charger or something.
[21:46] <x0077be> Just make sure it has like 1 or 1.5 A
[21:46] <iceTwy> oh
[21:46] <iceTwy> I do
[21:47] <iceTwy> my Galaxy S2 uses a micro-usb power cable
[21:47] <iceTwy> sec
[21:47] <x0077be> Just keep in mind that you're going to have to leave it plugged in.
[21:47] <x0077be> It's not like it has a battery.
[21:47] <iceTwy> but, er
[21:47] <iceTwy> it's only got 0.7A.
[21:47] <x0077be> Yeah, they're cheap on amazon.
[21:47] <DonUschi> don't use it.
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[21:47] <x0077be> Get like a 1.5-2A charger.
[21:47] <DonUschi> rpi need exactly 0.7
[21:47] <DonUschi> you wan't to have some "room"
[21:48] <x0077be> They're very cheap.
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[21:49] <iceTwy> Yeah, I'll get one from RSDelivers
[21:49] <DonUschi> keep in mind that often class 10 cards won't work.
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[21:49] <DonUschi> depends on production process.
[21:50] <DonUschi> but when you get it in a budle, it should do.
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[21:50] <Sonny_Jim> How come they don't work?
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[21:52] <DonUschi> Caused by the relativly old chip the rpi uses.
[21:52] <Sonny_Jim> Oh ok
[21:53] <Sonny_Jim> Never had a problem with the random cards I've been using
[21:53] <Sonny_Jim> Apart from the ones that say they are bigger than 2GB but are actually 2GB :-/
[21:53] <Herb_Tarlek> Is that why the RPi is picky about cards? I wondered about that.
[21:53] <DonUschi> i got some class 10 transcend. it works.
[21:54] <DonUschi> but maybe the next product charge won't!
[21:54] <x0077be> nid0: I think I figured out that mac address cloning thing.
[21:54] <iceTwy> DonUschi: SDHC class 10 from Transcend?
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[21:54] <DonUschi> sec
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[21:54] <x0077be> When I turn the mac address cloning off, the virtual interface has the same MAC address at the physical interface.
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[21:55] <DonUschi> http://www.amazon.de/Transcend-Extreme-Speed-Speicherkarte-Frustfreie-Verpackung/dp/B003VNKNEQ/ref=sr_1_11
[21:55] <DonUschi> this one
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[21:56] <DonUschi> http://raspberrycenter.de/handbuch/sd-karten-raspberry-pi
[21:57] <DonUschi> its in german but you can simply scroll till you find a list of sd cards.
[21:57] <DonUschi> it also the article where i got this information from.
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[22:01] <iceTwy> yeah
[22:01] <iceTwy> so I'll get a 32Gb class 10 SDHC card
[22:01] <iceTwy> along with the pi
[22:01] <iceTwy> should be enough lol
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[22:02] <DonUschi> not on the list.
[22:02] <DonUschi> you don't need a very fast and big one.
[22:02] <Sonny_Jim> Sure, from what I gather the SD card really isn't the bottleneck
[22:02] <DonUschi> 2-4 is enough for a single OS or NOOBS
[22:02] <Sonny_Jim> But I'd go for at least 4GB
[22:02] <DonUschi> and i think the BUS can't really handle a class 10 card
[22:02] <Sonny_Jim> 2GB can be eaten up pretty quickly now
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[22:03] <DonUschi> 8-16gb should be a good deal
[22:03] <DonUschi> if you need more > usb
[22:03] <DonUschi> cheap to add 1-2gb
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[22:04] <DonUschi> a very slow external would be good thou the bus can't handle very much data over usb 2.0
[22:04] <DonUschi> if a HD is the only device i remember 12mb/sek
[22:04] <x0077be> clever: What would it mean if arping was returning the same mac address for everything?
[22:05] <iceTwy> well afaik, Raspberry Pis only have (an) USB 2.0 port(s)?
[22:05] <Herb_Tarlek> On the other end, Amazon US has 64GB Micro SD cards for $35
[22:06] <sney> 2 ports, 1 bus
[22:07] <clever> x0077be: that would be the mac address of the repeater then
[22:07] <x0077be> Yeah
[22:07] <clever> x0077be: it would mean that the repeater is giving fake arp replies, to make itself the gateway
[22:07] <iceTwy> Herb_Tarlek: that's essentially what I'm thinking about
[22:07] <clever> without having to add route entries
[22:07] <iceTwy> Herb_Tarlek: afaik, a class 10 SDHC should be faster than a HDD connected through a USB 2.0 port
[22:07] <clever> it could also mean that you have a hacker on the lan using arp spoofing to sniff traffic, but thats less likely
[22:07] <x0077be> Yes, it's very unlikely.
[22:07] <x0077be> What should I do with that information?
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[22:09] <clever> x0077be: my only guess is that your repeater isnt repeating properly
[22:10] <x0077be> Why would everything _except_ my RPi be fine with the bad configuration?
[22:10] <x0077be> I feel like the asymmetry between my RPi and everything else must be the key here.
[22:10] <x0077be> Because it's the only thing not working.
[22:10] <x0077be> All I know is that if I turn mac address cloning off it breaks the repeater.
[22:11] <x0077be> And that the RPi can navigate the network just fine but can't get to the gateway
[22:11] <shiftplusone> drag0nius, the only one you can easily obtain without compiling anything.
[22:12] <shiftplusone> drag0nius, clever is going some magic with mplayer so we may have mplayer with omx support and vlc has omx support, but the raspbian package does not have it enabled.
[22:12] <sney> hmm, a repeater that cares about layer 2 information, what will they think of next
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[22:15] <DonUschi> god dammit!
[22:15] <DonUschi> i even got JBOSS_HOME and JAVA_HOME in bash.bashrc!
[22:15] <DonUschi> if i start jboss with jboss user "no permission
[22:15] <DonUschi> if i start it as sudo with jboss user: prompt password > jboss is not in the sudoers file. this incident will be reported.
[22:16] <x0077be> DonUschi: Add jboss to sudoers?
[22:16] <sney> the latter would be fixed by adding jboss to the sudo group, but sudo is probably not the real solution
[22:16] <DonUschi> i tried that earlier...not helping.
[22:16] <sney> tried what
[22:17] <DonUschi> it should not be neccessary to use sudo
[22:17] <sney> yes, I agree
[22:17] <sney> if you know that's irrelevant then why did you paste a sudo error that everyone knows how to fix
[22:17] <sney> start from the beginning. what are you trying to accomplish? what have you done so far? be specific.
[22:18] <DonUschi> desperation ^^
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[22:18] <x0077be> Did you check the owner and permissions on the file?
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[22:18] <DonUschi> i got java arm pkg ejre1.7.0_45 in /usr/java/
[22:19] <DonUschi> jboss-eap-6.1.0 in /usr/jboss/
[22:19] <DonUschi> created a jboss user
[22:20] <DonUschi> set him as owner of jboss -R
[22:20] <sney> are you following a readme or are you just making this up as you go
[22:20] <sney> dumping applications into new dirs under /usr is severely nonstandard
[22:20] <DonUschi> then tried env-variables export for java and jboss home, and later add them to bash.bashrc
[22:21] <DonUschi> two guides
[22:21] <DonUschi> http://blog.c2b2.co.uk/2012/06/jboss-eap-6-as-light-as-raspberry-pi.html
[22:21] <DonUschi> http://blog.oliver-mueller.com/-135
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[22:21] <DonUschi> the hint with bashrc is from a friend of mine.
[22:22] <DonUschi> he told me that add-user.sh and standalone.sh change users in process and for this maybe the path info got los on the way
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[22:23] <sney> wow, this is some cargo cult crap on the oliver-mueller site. sigh
[22:23] <DonUschi> xD
[22:23] <sney> you're going to run all of this jboss stuff as the jboss user, correct?
[22:23] <DonUschi> sry to bother your eyes ;)
[22:23] <DonUschi> yep
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[22:24] <sney> ok. start over, delete the extra junk you put in /usr, install it in jboss's /home like the first link tells you
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[22:28] <f00bar80> I've connected 2 leds to pin 17 & 21 and used them as GPIO.BCM outputs, I'm getting warnings 14: RuntimeWarning: This channel is already in use, and the same for channel 15 , any idea what's wrong ? i'm using a cobbler on Raspi B model
[22:28] <DonUschi> on my way
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[22:31] <steve_rox> i think you can silence the errors
[22:31] <steve_rox> i got it from manipulating my relays
[22:32] <steve_rox> when the program/script does not clean up the gpio pins
[22:32] <DonUschi> sney: done. "no permission"!
[22:32] <steve_rox> just a total guess tho
[22:32] <vtrbender> f00bar80, http://code.google.com/p/raspberry-gpio-python/wiki/BasicUsage under Warnings
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[22:32] <sney> DonUschi: what is the exact command you are running and its full output
[22:32] <pksato> f00bar80: phisical pins numvers and logical (BCM) numbers nao are same.
[22:33] <DonUschi> skipped the export part but i fixed the JBOSS_HOME in bash.bashrc
[22:33] <sney> did you source bash.bashrc to make sure your shell was aware of it?
[22:34] <pksato> gpio 17 is pin 11 and 21/27 is pin 13,
[22:34] <DonUschi> i entered jboss/bin and run: ./add-user.sh
[22:34] <DonUschi> -su: ./add-user.sh: Keine Berechtigung
[22:35] <DonUschi> is the answer
[22:35] <sney> is add-user.sh executable?
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[22:37] <DonUschi> omg wie peinlich. o_O
[22:37] <DonUschi> embarrassing
[22:38] <sney> well, at least you got that other goop out of /usr where it didn't belong
[22:38] <DonUschi> *harrump* thanks for that. ^^
[22:39] <sney> am I right to assume everything is fine now
[22:39] <DonUschi> I think so, yes. Hes asking what kind of user I'd like to create. ;)
[22:40] <DonUschi> this is revenge for our admin to let him do the work and settle for single commands like "service jboss start" ^^
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[22:45] <f00bar80> pksato, so what if i want to use both 21 and 27 ?
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[23:36] <biberao> yo
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[23:37] <gordonDrogon> evening.
[23:38] <biberao> sup
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[23:38] <gordonDrogon> I still have my own teeth - no need to sup yet...
[23:38] <Sonny_Jim> lol
[23:38] <Sonny_Jim> Hey gordonDrogon
[23:39] <Sonny_Jim> Trying to come up with a fun new project
[23:39] <gordonDrogon> not NES based then?
[23:39] <Sonny_Jim> The best I've come up with so far is to turn an old VCR into a tape drive
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[23:39] <Sonny_Jim> Don't have any other consoles apart from a PS2 and that controller protocol is SPI
[23:39] <gordonDrogon> but a VSR is a tape drive...
[23:39] <gordonDrogon> *VCR..
[23:40] <Sonny_Jim> Well, data tape drive
[23:40] <gordonDrogon> a-ha.
[23:40] <gordonDrogon> you know that was done some 30 years back, don't you?
[23:40] <Sonny_Jim> Oh sure
[23:40] <Sonny_Jim> Longer than 30 really
[23:40] <gordonDrogon> ok - just checking :)
[23:41] <Sonny_Jim> Like I said, it nearly fufills the targets of being fun, do able and useless all at once
[23:41] <gordonDrogon> how will you xfer the data?
[23:41] <Sonny_Jim> Haven't thought about it that much yet
[23:41] <gordonDrogon> ok
[23:41] <Sonny_Jim> and come to think of it, it's not really that weird of an idea
[23:42] <Sonny_Jim> Hmm, I have some old Nintendo DS screens here
[23:42] <gordonDrogon> you'd need a little video digitiser to use video data to it.
[23:42] <gordonDrogon> else you might as well use cassette tape audio...
[23:42] <gordonDrogon> back to 1200 baud FSK :)
[23:43] <Sonny_Jim> Sure
[23:43] <SpeedEvil> gordonDrogon: You can actually get about a hundred meg or so on a C90
[23:43] <Sonny_Jim> That might be where to start
[23:43] <SpeedEvil> gordonDrogon: If you use stereo QAM with decent FEC
[23:44] <gordonDrogon> it's decoding it back again that might be a little challenge, but not impossible.
[23:45] <gordonDrogon> can you still buy a c90 ? I seem to recall something in el reg about the last one rolling off the production lines a year or 2 back...
[23:45] <SpeedEvil> gordonDrogon: QAM is pretty trivial to decode nowadays.
[23:45] <SpeedEvil> Could even do it on a pi
[23:46] <SpeedEvil> http://www.amazon.co.uk/SONY-C90HF-Audio-Tape-minutes/dp/B003YVK8BS/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1385765155&sr=8-2&keywords=c90+tape
[23:46] <gordonDrogon> wow. wonder who still uses them...
[23:46] <Sonny_Jim> Hipsters who want that 'analogue' sound
[23:46] <clever> gordonDrogon: have you done anything with the omx api?
[23:46] <SpeedEvil> http://www.amazon.co.uk/BBC-Super-Ferric-Blank-Cassette/dp/B000XZ59N0/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1385765155&sr=8-7&keywords=c90+tape - also
[23:46] <SpeedEvil> What the hell
[23:47] <Sonny_Jim> iPods are like, y'know, totally common dude.
[23:47] <gordonDrogon> my pal who restores spectrums has digitised their programs and plays them back from a PC audio output :)
[23:47] <Sonny_Jim> gordonDrogon: playtzx :-)
[23:47] <gordonDrogon> clever, no.
[23:47] <clever> gordonDrogon: i thought i saw you on one of the issues in git, maybe i'm just getting old
[23:48] <gordonDrogon> clever, there is a Gordon who works for the foundation...
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[23:48] <clever> *looks*
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[23:50] <clever> cant figure out where i saw it
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