#raspberrypi IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2013-11-30

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[0:48] <dosch> hey
[0:48] <shiftplusone> hey
[0:48] <dosch> I'd like to ask something about rasp-config
[0:49] <shiftplusone> ask away
[0:49] <dosch> I read that 'sudo rasp-config' should get me back to the menu you get on initial setup
[0:49] <shiftplusone> that's right (except that it's "raspi-config", not "rasp-config")
[0:49] <dosch> but I get a 'command not found'
[0:49] <dosch> aaaaah
[0:50] <shiftplusone> problem solved?
[0:50] <dosch> that would be a good change in this forum : http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=15123
[0:51] <shiftplusone> Ahm, I am a mod there, so I can edit the post, but people don't take kindly to that sort of thing.
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[0:51] <dosch> well. it might make stuff a little easier foor the beginners out there ;-)
[0:51] <shiftplusone> yeah, doubt anyone well notice... >.>
[0:52] <shiftplusone> fixed
[0:52] <dosch> lol. thnx for this help and thnx from all the future noobs reading that topic
[0:52] <biberao> http://arstechnica.com/security/2013/11/new-linux-worm-targets-routers-cameras-internet-of-things-devices/
[0:52] <shiftplusone> np
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[0:59] <happygilmoregent> no chat in here?
[1:00] <shiftplusone> nope
[1:00] <happygilmoregent> if you use usb to hdmi what kind of power adapter would you need
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[1:04] <dosch> hm, is there away to stop the GUI when i use SSH to connect to my pi?
[1:05] <shiftplusone> dosch, prevent it from starting up altogether or just kill the running session?
[1:05] <dosch> how do I kill the running session?
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[1:05] <shiftplusone> stop the lightdm service
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[1:06] <dosch> sudo /etc/init.d/lightdm stop ? or so?
[1:06] <biberao> yo
[1:06] <shiftplusone> yup
[1:06] <shiftplusone> then check to make sure X isn't running anymore.
[1:06] <dosch> to check i use 'top'?
[1:07] <shiftplusone> or 'ps aux' or htop or whatever works for you
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[1:09] <dosch> ok, thnx!
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[1:10] <shiftplusone> Also, I believe the more cromulent way of controlling services is using the 'service' command rather than running the scripts directly.
[1:11] <dosch> ok. I have a hard time figuring out how to control services so far… do you maybe have a tip for a good place to read up on it? I am trying to move away from VNC to control my pi and only use ssh…
[1:11] <shiftplusone> I don't know, I haven't kept up with raspbian/debian and their documentation seems to be all over the place.
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[1:12] <dosch> ok. i'll fire up the googles ;-)
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[1:14] <happygilmoregent> if you have a USB to HDMI connector how much power do you need
[1:15] <x0077BE> Well I finally tracked down why my mac address cloning needs to be on, but it doesn't seem to get me any closer to why my raspberry pi can't see the main gateway.
[1:15] <x0077BE> (Referring to this: http://superuser.com/questions/682034/raspberry-pi-cannot-ping-router-or-internet-addresses-over-wifi-bridge)
[1:16] <x0077BE> Turns out there's some sort of bug in the dd-wrt flash that scrambles the MAC address of one of the interfaces.
[1:16] <x0077BE> The MAC address cloning seems to fix it.
[1:17] <x0077BE> But that doesn't do anything to answer why Raspberry Pis and raspberry pis alone can't see the gateway.
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[1:29] <rio> any ideas why wiringPi is giving me these error?
[1:29] <rio> wiringPiISR: execl failed: No such file or directory
[1:29] <rio> wiringPiISR: unable to open /sys/class/gpio/gpio27/value: No such file or directory
[1:29] <rio> calling "gpio read <n>" works fine though
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[1:38] <nerdboy> missing a helper kernel module? wrong module options? weird udev rule?
[1:39] <rio> got it, needet to link /usr/bin/gpio to /usr/local/bin/gpio
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[1:52] <biberao> anyone advise me a usb sata adapter?
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[1:55] <biberao> i wanna connect my laptop's dvd player to rpi
[1:55] <biberao> sorry net went down
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[2:17] <[Saint]> biberao: couldn't you just share the drive on the local network?
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[2:20] <[Saint]> You can't share the raw device, but, there's nothing stopping you from mounting the raw device somewhere and sharing that.
[2:20] <[Saint]> With the bonus being that everythin ggets to keep its hardware and you don't need to buy any additional cable(s) or adapter(s).
[2:22] <[Saint]> I can't remember my exact setup, but its something like:
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[2:24] <[Saint]> http://pastebin.com/a0xBPi9f in /etc/samba/smb.conf
[2:24] <[Saint]> biberao: ^
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[2:40] <Cykey> Seriously I don't understand why this is wrong
[2:40] <Cykey> pi@raspberrypi ~/daemon $ /usr/bin/raspivid --output=outfile.h264 --timeout=50000
[2:40] <Cykey> Invalid command line option (--timeout=50000)
[2:40] <Cykey> (hint: it's not wrong.)
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[2:52] <pieces029> I keep getting Err http://mirrordirector.raspbian.org wheezy/main armhf Packages Connection Failed when trying to update raspbian, has anyone else had an issue with this / know how to fix it?
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[2:59] <[Saint]> Man, this thing is awesome: http://www.86duino.com/index.php?p=95
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[3:01] <SpeedEvil> In some ways.
[3:01] <SpeedEvil> I love the scads of IO
[3:01] <SpeedEvil> And analog
[3:02] <SpeedEvil> 300MHz is less ideal.
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[3:02] <[Saint]> it'd be great for home automation.
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[3:03] <SpeedEvil> I guess Its built-in special circuit protection design can prevent it from burn out due to configuration errors. You can make a module easily, quickly and also be worry free about unexpected damage caused by h' means that it has a bootloader
[3:04] * shiftplusone sets mode -b *!*mobgod@unaffiliated/mobgod
[3:04] <SpeedEvil> The breadboard on top is a really nice touch
[3:04] * [Saint] nods
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[3:37] <Kalagaraz> Ok newb question. I'm using QT Creator IDE to write programs on the raspberry pi (remote desktop). I downloaded the broadcom library and installed it, and QT Creator picks it up with intellisense and everything
[3:38] <Kalagaraz> but when I go to build I get undefined references
[3:38] <Kalagaraz> What am I not linking correctly?
[3:38] <johnc-> couple of days later an I have omxplayer as a library :)
[3:38] <shiftplusone> johnc-, what do you plan to do with it?
[3:39] <shiftplusone> Kalagaraz, yeah, it sounds like it has picked up the headers, but you're not linking correctly.
[3:39] <johnc-> shiftplusone: play and control video playback from my phone, with seeking support etc.
[3:39] <johnc-> shiftplusone: the videos not being on the pi
[3:40] <shiftplusone> ah
[3:40] <Kalagaraz> shiftplusone, do you know how to link with QT Creator? It's been awhile since I've used linux or C++....
[3:40] <shiftplusone> nuh, sorry, I stick to makefiles and simple editors.
[3:40] <johnc-> shiftplusone: having omxplayer as a library allows me control over the video IO :)
[3:41] <shiftplusone> going to release and maintain it or doing it for yourself only?
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[3:41] <I440r> anyone here want to try an as yet unreleased arm linux forth ?
[3:42] <I440r> im developing it on a beagleboard xm because i broke my pi
[3:42] <johnc-> shiftplusone: idk yet, I really don't like the idea of releasing a GPLed library
[3:42] <shiftplusone> forth? eh?
[3:42] <shiftplusone> Ah right, you're the "GPL is poison" guy =P
[3:43] <johnc-> yup
[3:45] <johnc-> I don't like that linking to a GPL library means my entire codebase needs to be released under GPL
[3:45] <shiftplusone> I440r, oh derp... you'r talking about a compiler?
[3:45] <I440r> yes
[3:45] <I440r> a forth compiler
[3:46] <I440r> the core (called the kernel) of the compiler is written in 100% pure asm and uses no external libraries
[3:46] <shiftplusone> nice
[3:46] <I440r> ill write a GPIO extension for the pi later
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[3:46] <I440r> assuming the fix for my pi actually worked lol. else ill have to wait till i get work and get a new pi
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[3:48] <shiftplusone> I can test tomorrow if you don't find someone by then.
[3:49] <I440r> cool
[3:49] <I440r> u familiar with forth?
[3:49] <shiftplusone> not at all, had to google it.
[3:49] <I440r> gpl isnt poison, its just a virus
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[3:51] <I440r> so is compiling 222 megs of source code in 2 seconds fast for a 1mhz arm? :)
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[3:51] <Kalagaraz> muahaha got it :)
[3:51] <Kalagaraz> Nevered linked the library :)
[3:51] <shiftplusone> depends on the code >.>
[3:51] <I440r> actually its .6 seconds i misjudged
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[3:52] <I440r> its forth code
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[3:52] <I440r> my compiler doesnt optimize yet tho
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[3:52] <I440r> .697 real, .047 user, .078 sys. i assume the "Real" is the total time taken?
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[3:53] <I440r> err blargh and its not megs i missspoke
[3:53] <I440r> its k
[3:54] <I440r> 222k of soruce in .6 seconds
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[3:54] <shiftplusone> lol
[3:54] <shiftplusone> quite a difference
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[3:54] <I440r> somewhat
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[3:55] * shiftplusone makes a mental note to add "give or take a few orders of magnitude" to all numbers I440r says >.>
[3:55] <I440r> i claim my x86 linux version of this compiler is the worlds fastest compiler of any non trivial language, on my laptop i compile over 4 megs of source per second as near as i can guesstimate
[3:55] <I440r> lol only if i dont correct myself lol
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[3:55] <I440r> if i lie i fess up :P~
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[3:56] <shiftplusone> heh. So, does this forth of your integrate with C easily?
[3:56] <I440r> no
[3:56] <I440r> why would you ever want it to.
[3:56] <I440r> well. you could develop an FFI for it easilly
[3:56] <I440r> but im probably never going to
[3:57] <shiftplusone> to use the existing libraries and not have to re-invent the wheel.
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[3:57] <I440r> so i can use 400k terminfo or i can use the 4k version i developed that can do more than terminfo, do it easier and only took me a day to write
[3:57] <I440r> k
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[3:57] <I440r> actually my terminfo code is 6k of code now because i added the pulldown menuing stuff
[3:58] <I440r> that wasnt there before
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[3:58] <ReggieUK> I didn't think that gpl meant that all ur code belong to us?
[3:58] <I440r> basically it does
[3:58] <ReggieUK> I thought that only the derived pieces of work that use gpl code has to be released?
[3:58] <fengshaun> ohhh raspi out of memory :(
[3:59] <I440r> if you LINK to a GPL library, your gpl. unless the library is LGPL
[3:59] <ReggieUK> like mali etc. must be using something to talk to the kernel yet they don't have to release the binaries?
[3:59] <ReggieUK> not that I particularly care about licenses as such
[3:59] <I440r> using kernel system calls does not make your code a derived work. there is an exception for that
[4:00] <I440r> there is also an exception for libgcc
[4:00] <I440r> i.e. compile wiht gcc and part of your binary will be derived from soruces that come iwth gcc
[4:00] <ReggieUK> so if you can find a way to talk to the gpl code through teh kernel then you're golden?
[4:00] <Kalagaraz> ugh now I'm getting bcm2835_init unable to open /dev/men
[4:00] <I440r> those sources do not polute your license
[4:01] <shiftplusone> Kalagaraz, I think you want mem, not men. A bit of a Freudian slip there.
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[4:02] <Kalagaraz> ahh yeah just mistyped in IRC, still same issue. Seems when QT creator compiles and runs it as default user, it doesn't have permissions to /dev/mem
[4:02] <Kalagaraz> Not sure how to get QT creator to run it as root...
[4:03] <Amadiro> Kalagaraz, the correct way to do it would be to add your user to the correct group or add a udev rule
[4:03] <Amadiro> not run QT creator as root
[4:04] <shiftplusone> what's the output of ls -la /dev/mem ?
[4:04] <Amadiro> also, which distro are you on, and in which groups is your user?
[4:04] <Kalagaraz> crw-r----T 1 root kmem 1, 1 Jan 1 1970 /dev/mem
[4:04] <Kalagaraz> rasbian wheezy
[4:04] <shiftplusone> so you should add yourself to kmem, I think.
[4:05] <shiftplusone> actually, scratch that, that would be read only, wouldn't it?
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[4:06] <Amadiro> What is Qt Creator trying to do anyway, create a GL ES context presumably?
[4:06] <Kalagaraz> I'm using broadcom library
[4:06] <Kalagaraz> To access GPIOs
[4:07] <Amadiro> ah
[4:07] <Kalagaraz> yeah adding myself to kmem still gives same fault, permission denied
[4:07] <Amadiro> Kalagaraz, have you looked at wiringpi
[4:08] <Kalagaraz> nope
[4:08] <Amadiro> hm, I thought wiringpi has a setup to allow you to use it as non-root, but I guess not
[4:08] <Amadiro> you can setuid your binary, if you want to, I guess
[4:10] <Kalagaraz> ...
[4:10] <Kalagaraz> Just screwing around and added pi to root group, still same error...
[4:10] <shiftplusone> that's not how it works
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[4:11] <I440r> plus changing a users groups requires a logout and login to make the change take effect
[4:12] <yehnan> hello, I read this http://scruss.com/blog/2013/06/07/well-that-was-unexpected-the-raspberry-pis-hardware-random-number-generator/ about Raspberry Pi�s Hardware Random Number Generator, how can I use it in C or Python language? Is there a API?
[4:12] <I440r> just open /dev/urandom and do a read?
[4:12] <Amadiro> yehnan, ... it says in the article
[4:12] <I440r> thats only valid if you want a random number from 1 to ffffffff
[4:13] <Amadiro> yehnan, there may also be a way to get the kernels RNG to use the hardware RNG
[4:13] <yehnan> Amadiro: do you mean read from /dev/hwrng ?
[4:13] <Amadiro> yes
[4:13] <I440r> if you want a random number from 1 to 100 you need to do %100 on the value read
[4:13] <I440r> no
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[4:13] <I440r> did not know that existed
[4:14] <Amadiro> %100 is not a good idea.
[4:14] <I440r> i would just use /dev/urandom
[4:14] <Amadiro> It skews your distribution
[4:14] <Amadiro> so it makes your numbers less random, in a sense
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[4:14] <yehnan> Read from /dev/hwrng? How many bytes should I get per one time?
[4:15] <Amadiro> yehnan, however many you want
[4:15] <Amadiro> yehnan, the question is what you need the random numbers for
[4:15] <I440r> and if you need them within a specific range
[4:15] <I440r> how are you supposed to guarantee a range? just keep reading till you get a read thats within range?
[4:15] <I440r> that could take hours
[4:16] <shiftplusone> What's considered random in computer land anyway? Something that has a uniform or a Gaussian distribution? or something else?
[4:17] <Amadiro> I440r, no, that's not how you do it; see e.g. http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2509679/how-to-generate-a-random-number-from-within-a-range
[4:18] <Amadiro> shiftplusone, there are several notions of randomness, depending on the application, and you can chose what distribution you want too
[4:18] <Amadiro> most frequently you need uniform (but the distribution you create by using the modulo operator is almost never what you want)
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[4:19] <Amadiro> shiftplusone, the main notions of randomness in CS are pseudo-randomness, cryptographically secure pseudo-randomness and "true randomness" (=randomness from external sources such as background radiation, quantum-mechanical effects, thermodynamic effects)
[4:19] <Amadiro> the RNGs e.g. casinos use have to be of the latter category
[4:19] <Amadiro> the RNGs used in generating keys for encryption-purposes for example are of the second category
[4:19] <Amadiro> and the RNGs used for e.g. monte-carlo methods are of the first category
[4:20] <Amadiro> e.g. to simulate things, render things, where the "unpredictability" of a cryptographically secure RNG is not necessary
[4:20] <I440r> Amadiro, i worked for bally gaming. they did not have a radio receiver in their games to collect entropy from
[4:20] <Amadiro> You do not need one.
[4:21] <I440r> they had a certified algorithm. it cost them 10's of thousands of dollars to certify the alg
[4:21] <I440r> and it was of course top secret :)
[4:21] <shiftplusone> ah, so there's no one accepted standard distribution then?
[4:21] <Amadiro> http://www.idquantique.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=9
[4:21] <Amadiro> you can buy QRNGs in convenient PCI, PCIe or USB form
[4:22] <Amadiro> shiftplusone, distribution is chosen by the application, so no
[4:22] <Amadiro> most commonly needed are gaussian/normal and uniform
[4:22] <shiftplusone> got it
[4:22] <Amadiro> but even then, you may need a particular sigma/mu in your gaussian
[4:22] <Amadiro> so that has to be flexible
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[4:31] <Aivaras> while booting I see dmesg output. Last entry is enthernet module load - nothing after that
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[5:45] <YellowGTO> Finally got video to stream lol
[5:45] <YellowGTO> Tobad the delay is so bad
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[5:48] <aural> Regarding the various sensor components available at http://adafruit.com/ I am considering to purchase a few variety of them along with a raspberry pi and other necessary components to delve into tinkering with them and learning/improving programming skills, particularly as a gift to someone so they may learn, but also myself as well. One nonprimary concern that I'm curious about is if it may be easy
[5:48] <aural> to program/interface with the components from the java programming language so as to compliment my friend to learn for their related school classes. Does anyone have any experience using java on a raspberry pi to interface with attached components?
[5:50] <Triffid_Hunter> aural: easier to learn python than be subjected to java
[5:50] <shiftplusone> java has a lot of stigma attached to it, so you might have trouble finding decent support for it on the pi, but yeah, there are libraries for java that let you mess around with gpio
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[5:52] <aural> Thanks
[5:53] <aural> I generally agree with the stigma related to java, and have expressed similarly to my friend, but until they recognize it on their own, I ask on their behalf for their own expectations.
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[5:58] <edman007> hi, has anyone use a raspberry pi for highbitrate mpeg streams/mythtv? I'm wondering if it's worth wasting time on trying to make my spare raspberry pi a mythtv frontend box... I have lots of mpeg2 streams, some over 15Mbps 1080p (just straight rips of the OTA TV content)
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[5:59] <The_HunterT> If do a beowulf cluster on RPis is the 700mhz scaled per RPi?
[5:59] <Triffid_Hunter> edman007: as long as the network rate is under 2-4MB/s it should be fine
[5:59] <shiftplusone> I don't think mythtv is suitable though, it's not designed for low end hardware
[5:59] <Triffid_Hunter> edman007: the rpi's cpu is fairly underwhelming, but for mpeg it just needs to shuffle data from network or storage to the VPU
[5:59] <edman007> Triffid_Hunter, does the GPU handle that type of video?
[6:00] <shiftplusone> mpeg2 needs an extra codec, which you can buy off the site
[6:00] <shiftplusone> http://www.raspberrypi.com/mpeg-2-license-key/
[6:01] <edman007> shiftplusone, yea, I know... that a big part of the reason... I want to get away without spending money on new hardware... but if it will make liveTV work I'd do it...mostly that means playing high quality mpeg2 smoothly
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[6:02] <clever> shiftplusone: yeah, i believe it caches the uncompressed images for the whole ui in ram
[6:02] <edman007> but I don't want to buy a key if it doesn't work
[6:02] <clever> just that alone would murder a pi
[6:02] <clever> and it doesnt have omx support yet
[6:03] <edman007> alright then... I'll look into building a dedicated box then...
[6:03] <shiftplusone> edman007, live tv? using something like a usb dongle or are you actually talking about stuff recorded from the tv?
[6:04] <shiftplusone> oh, if you absolutely must have mythtv and not something else that works on a pi, then yeah, other hardware is the way to go.
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[6:05] <edman007> shiftplusone, I got an HDHomerun hooked up to mythtv... I've used a fullblown mythtv frontend before... commercial skip is AWESOME, and I'm installing a new TV and I'd like to try and run it over wifi through mythtv instead of running coax...
[6:06] <edman007> wondering how well that will work though... PS3 had trouble pushing 16Mbps over wifi...
[6:06] * edman007 starts pricing out a mythtv box
[6:07] <shiftplusone> I see that xbmc supports hdhomerun
[6:07] <shiftplusone> and so does plex
[6:07] <shiftplusone> so that should work fine with the pi, but I have no personal experience with what you're doing.
[6:08] <edman007> shiftplusone, yea... can't do that though, mythtv hooks into the HDhomerun and manages it...
[6:08] <edman007> would intefear
[6:08] <shiftplusone> ok
[6:09] <clever> xbmc does have mythtv support
[6:09] <clever> its not complete, but i believe its enough to watch shows
[6:09] <clever> run the backend on another system
[6:09] <shiftplusone> xbmc can be a mythtv frontend?
[6:09] <clever> ive heard that it can
[6:10] <edman007> clever, yea... I assume it's what I can get on the roku, which is recorded only... you can't change channels on it which is what I'm looking for
[6:12] <clever> yeah, no livetv i believe
[6:12] <clever> i did hear something about a different frontend, built from scratch to run on something like the pi
[6:12] <clever> dont remember the name
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[6:55] <YellowGTO> Finally got it working well. Needs to be opened in FF or IE mddrop.com//zm/index.php?view=watch&mid=3
[6:56] <shiftplusone> What's all this then?
[6:56] <YellowGTO> ?
[6:56] <RiXtEr> looks like zoneminder.
[6:57] <YellowGTO> Pi camera > VLC > Zoneminder
[6:57] <YellowGTO> 30fps
[6:57] <YellowGTO> wifi
[6:57] <shiftplusone> ah
[6:57] <YellowGTO> :D
[6:57] <YellowGTO> Do I can work on making housings with IR rings for security cameras
[6:57] <YellowGTO> *now
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[6:58] <RiXtEr> how much is a picam?
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[6:58] <YellowGTO> I think I got in bundled for 50 dollars at microcenter
[6:58] <YellowGTO> It was a month or so ago, I can't really remember
[6:59] <RiXtEr> bundled with the pi and wifi?
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[6:59] <YellowGTO> No I ordered a dongle from amazon for 10
[6:59] <YellowGTO> It was 70
[6:59] <YellowGTO> Damn my memory is getting shot
[6:59] <YellowGTO> LoL
[6:59] <YellowGTO> http://www.microcenter.com/product/423303/Raspberry_Pi_Model_B_Camera_Kit_with_8GB_O-S_Card
[7:00] <YellowGTO> So all and all it will be 100USD total
[7:00] <YellowGTO> By the end
[7:01] <YellowGTO> Seems you're only saving 50ish dollars by building it yourself
[7:01] <YellowGTO> But its 10 times cooler ;)
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[7:18] <YellowGTO> Anyone know if -t 0 is forever on?
[7:18] <YellowGTO> For picam?
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[8:22] <jasabella> so many OS to choose from :|
[8:23] <korozion> start with raspbian
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[8:30] <YellowGTO> Camera is still stable and it seems CPU usaged has settled around 33%
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[9:41] <Vialas_Air> hi everyone
[9:41] <Vialas_Air> anyone know much about raspbmc
[9:42] <YellowGTO> Whats the question?
[9:43] <Vialas_Air> basicaly i cant seem to get it to install
[9:43] <Vialas_Air> it was working fine
[9:43] <Vialas_Air> then it decided to self udate
[9:43] <Vialas_Air> and now im at a blue screen
[9:43] <Vialas_Air> Raspbmc updater : patching root filesystem. be very patient
[9:43] <Vialas_Air> last time this happend. it just got stuck in a loop
[9:43] <Vialas_Air> :(
[9:43] <YellowGTO> :(
[9:44] <Vialas_Air> yea not good
[9:44] <Vialas_Air> i have tried to use this 3 times
[9:44] <YellowGTO> I don't know that specific error sorry :(
[9:44] <Vialas_Air> every time results in fail
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[9:44] <Vialas_Air> im fine installing raspbian (altho who isnt)
[9:44] <Vialas_Air> just seems this package is ... dare i say it... broke?
[9:44] <Vialas_Air> hahah
[9:44] <Vialas_Air> no worries YellowGTO , thanks for asking about the issue. i appreciate the interest anyway
[9:45] <YellowGTO> Im having a hell of a time with my Pi too
[9:45] <YellowGTO> After like 7 hours
[9:45] <Vialas_Air> oh no
[9:45] <YellowGTO> im finally there
[9:45] <YellowGTO> LoL
[9:45] <Vialas_Air> oh now, what happend YellowGTO ?
[9:45] <YellowGTO> Just trying to stream video from the piCam
[9:45] <YellowGTO> Its a PAIN
[9:45] <Vialas_Air> oh i havent tried that
[9:45] <Vialas_Air> stream as in VLC?
[9:45] <YellowGTO> Thats what im using now
[9:45] <Vialas_Air> cool cool
[9:46] <YellowGTO> Because Gstreamer is damn near impossible
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[9:46] <YellowGTO> mddrop.com/zm/index.php?view=watch&mid=3
[9:46] <YellowGTO> Finally got it to stream 30fps at 1080p
[9:46] <YellowGTO> Shesh
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[9:46] <Vialas_Air> YellowGTO, your wearing clothes ... right..
[9:46] <YellowGTO> Yeah
[9:46] <YellowGTO> LoL
[9:46] <YellowGTO> Its pointed the other way anyway
[9:47] <Vialas_Air> lol
[9:47] <Vialas_Air> sweet its working
[9:47] <Vialas_Air> hmmm
[9:47] <YellowGTO> Yeah
[9:47] <Vialas_Air> its way to big for my screen
[9:47] <YellowGTO> Low light kinda sucks
[9:47] <Vialas_Air> no zoom option?
[9:47] <YellowGTO> At the bottom
[9:47] <Vialas_Air> hmmm?
[9:47] <YellowGTO> There is a dezoom
[9:47] <YellowGTO> Feature
[9:48] <YellowGTO> Oh wow
[9:48] <YellowGTO> There isn't anymore
[9:48] <YellowGTO> LoL
[9:48] <YellowGTO> Ohh at the top
[9:48] <YellowGTO> It says scale
[9:48] <YellowGTO> 3/4th will probably work
[9:49] <Vialas_Air> wohooo
[9:49] <Vialas_Air> nice one
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[9:49] <YellowGTO> i hope my xbmc isnt dead
[9:49] <YellowGTO> When i go back to the shore house
[9:49] <YellowGTO> BEcause of some update
[9:49] <YellowGTO> LoL
[9:50] <Vialas_Air> ok now get the 20yo girl :D
[9:50] <YellowGTO> as you can see Low light performance is kinda lacking on the pi
[9:50] <YellowGTO> LoL
[9:50] <Vialas_Air> yea
[9:50] <Vialas_Air> is it the pi or the cam?
[9:50] <YellowGTO> Going to need IR lights
[9:50] <YellowGTO> The cam
[9:50] <YellowGTO> Does really well actually in daylight
[9:51] <Vialas_Air> nice
[9:51] <Vialas_Air> why dont you put the lights on in your room :P
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[9:51] <YellowGTO> I just turned them off actually
[9:51] <YellowGTO> 4am
[9:51] <YellowGTO> Need to wind down
[9:51] <YellowGTO> LoL
[9:51] <YellowGTO> These will be outdoor cameras
[9:51] <YellowGTO> If I ever get them working correctly
[9:52] <Vialas_Air> cool
[9:52] <Vialas_Air> security!!!
[9:52] <Vialas_Air> awesome!
[9:52] <ShorTie> you using the regular pi-cam or the noir 1's ??
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[9:52] <YellowGTO> Normal pi cam
[9:52] <YellowGTO> But this is IR sensitive
[9:53] <YellowGTO> I already tested it
[9:53] <Vialas_Air> you have any idea how to get weather stations to work YellowGTO ?
[9:53] <YellowGTO> in xbmc?
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[9:54] <ShorTie> just ordered a couple of the noir 1's to play with
[9:54] <YellowGTO> They are out ShorTie ?
[9:54] <ShorTie> ya, adafruit has some
[9:55] <ShorTie> like 30 bucks
[9:55] <YellowGTO> hmmm
[9:55] <YellowGTO> i wonder how they do in daylight
[9:56] <ShorTie> the colors are off a bit, but still work fine
[9:57] <YellowGTO> might be worth it
[9:57] <YellowGTO> I wonder if there is a way to setup a color filter in Zoneminder
[9:57] <YellowGTO> TO make it the right colors
[9:59] <ShorTie> oh, i don't know about that
[9:59] <ShorTie> since it is just like a little piece of blue plastic, it very well could be posible
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[10:00] <YellowGTO> youre going to make me have to order one
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[10:01] <YellowGTO> What i wouldnt give for a duel core 1ghz pi
[10:01] <YellowGTO> LoL
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[10:02] <Vialas_Air> lol you are that easy to convince YellowGTO ?
[10:02] <YellowGTO> LoL
[10:02] <Vialas_Air> dude that would be awesome 1ghz
[10:02] <YellowGTO> Im unconvinced so I want to try it
[10:02] <YellowGTO> :)
[10:02] <Vialas_Air> then i could play kerbal on my pi :D
[10:04] <YellowGTO> kerbal space thingy?
[10:04] <Vialas_Air> yea :D
[10:04] <Vialas_Air> i have not got to the Mun yet :(
[10:04] <YellowGTO> They have something for the pi?
[10:04] <Vialas_Air> negative
[10:04] <Vialas_Air> i wish they did
[10:04] <YellowGTO> Ohh
[10:04] <YellowGTO> LoL
[10:05] <Vialas_Air> it neds to be more powerful for kerbal
[10:05] <YellowGTO> They will have to make an arm version before that could even be a possibility
[10:05] <Vialas_Air> hmmm
[10:05] <Vialas_Air> can you please start for me :D
[10:05] <YellowGTO> LoL
[10:06] <Vialas_Air> what?
[10:06] * Vialas_Air looks for something that is funny
[10:06] <YellowGTO> I actually own that game
[10:06] <YellowGTO> I wish there was multiplayer
[10:06] <YellowGTO> And weapons
[10:06] <Vialas_Air> you own the game toooo
[10:06] <Vialas_Air> awesome
[10:06] <Vialas_Air> there is a multiplayer
[10:06] <Vialas_Air> :D
[10:06] <Vialas_Air> we should play together
[10:06] <YellowGTO> Oh?
[10:06] <Vialas_Air> can you get to the Mun
[10:06] <Vialas_Air> ???
[10:06] <YellowGTO> Yeah
[10:07] <YellowGTO> I just can't land
[10:07] <YellowGTO> LoL
[10:07] <Vialas_Air> wow thats way better than me
[10:07] <Vialas_Air> YellowGTO : http://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/threads/55835-Kmp-0-22-wip-alpha
[10:07] <YellowGTO> Tobad I lost ALL mny ships in a format
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[10:09] <Vialas_Air> noooooooo
[10:09] <Vialas_Air> well you can start again
[10:09] <Vialas_Air> im just starting
[10:09] <Vialas_Air> im a noober
[10:10] <Vialas_Air> how much you pay for it?
[10:11] <YellowGTO> Cheap during a steam sale
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[10:11] <Vialas_Air> you lucky bugger
[10:11] <Vialas_Air> i had to pay 30AUD
[10:11] <YellowGTO> Well add my to steam and if I get some free time after the holidays ill MP it up with you
[10:12] <Vialas_Air> hell yea YellowGTO
[10:12] <Vialas_Air> souns good
[10:12] <Vialas_Air> i chill in here and in #c
[10:13] <Vialas_Air> and also over in irc.lostirc.org
[10:13] <YellowGTO> YellowGT0
[10:14] <YellowGTO> I think my steam name is
[10:14] <YellowGTO> Might be YellowGTO
[10:14] <YellowGTO> C as in the programing language?
[10:14] <Vialas_Air> yep
[10:14] <Vialas_Air> im trying to teach myself
[10:15] <Vialas_Air> ohh YellowGTO apparently you can blow stuff up
[10:15] <Vialas_Air> http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=cVKu7rJ16Sk
[10:15] <Vialas_Air> look at the death star part
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[10:16] <YellowGTO> Pretty neat
[10:16] <YellowGTO> I was thinking about learning C#
[10:16] <YellowGTO> But I just have like no time lol
[10:16] <YellowGTO> http://netduino.com/
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[10:17] <YellowGTO> Well night Vialas_Air
[10:17] <Vialas_Air> oh thanks for link
[10:18] <Vialas_Air> ill look it now
[10:18] <YellowGTO> Add me to steam or hitme up on irc :) Im rarely in this chat so you will have to private msg me
[10:18] <Vialas_Air> ok night night YellowGTO
[10:18] <Vialas_Air> i dont have steam :(
[10:18] <Vialas_Air> oh where you hang out YellowGTO ?
[10:18] <Vialas_Air> you should stay in here!!!!!
[10:18] <YellowGTO> #xda-devs
[10:19] <Vialas_Air> oh gosh
[10:19] <Vialas_Air> what is that
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[10:19] <YellowGTO> Cellphone modders
[10:19] <Vialas_Air> ohhh
[10:19] <Vialas_Air> lol
[10:19] <Vialas_Air> you modd?
[10:19] <YellowGTO> A little bit
[10:19] <Vialas_Air> cool
[10:20] <Vialas_Air> why not hang out in here
[10:20] <Vialas_Air> you have a pi
[10:20] <Vialas_Air> makes sence :D
[10:20] <YellowGTO> Usually because im not much help lol
[10:20] <Vialas_Air> thats ok
[10:20] <Vialas_Air> someitmes you can learn something cool
[10:20] <Vialas_Air> and
[10:20] <Vialas_Air> you can chill out with me
[10:21] <YellowGTO> I don't think this chat usually allows offtopic chat ;)
[10:21] <Vialas_Air> realy?
[10:21] <Vialas_Air> thats lame
[10:22] <YellowGTO> Well actually freenode is supposed to bne ## for unoffical/offtopic
[10:22] <YellowGTO> But most chats don't follow that
[10:22] <Vialas_Air> oh i didnt knwo hat
[10:22] <Vialas_Air> hmmm
[10:22] <ShorTie> they more don't like un-family stuff
[10:22] <Vialas_Air> ahh ok
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[10:23] <Vialas_Air> why not join #TheChilloutZone
[10:23] <YellowGTO> Well i gatta really hit the sack
[10:23] <YellowGTO> Maybe ill check it out tomorrow
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[10:24] <Vialas_Air> ok
[10:24] <Vialas_Air> cya YellowGTO
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[11:22] <Vialas_Air> anyone know how to kill xbmc webserver?
[11:22] <Vialas_Air> have a conflict with that and apahe2
[11:22] <Vialas_Air> :(
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[12:27] <Jusii> from settings
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[14:12] <Ubuntivity> Hello
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[14:13] <Ubuntivity> How can I edit the Raspbian image file (.bin)?
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[14:15] <ShorTie> you can edit after you put it on a card
[14:15] <ShorTie> why does it have tobe before ??
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[14:16] <Ubuntivity> ShorTie: I don't know why! I didn't thought of that! (feels embarrassed!)
[14:16] <Ubuntivity> Thanks s
[14:16] <Ubuntivity> The output should contain 'arm1176'. If not, make sure you follow the QEMU build tutorial (linux) or download the correct binaries (windows).
[14:16] <Ubuntivity> Sorry that was mistakenly sent
[14:17] <ShorTie> No Problem
[14:17] <Ubuntivity> Thanks ShorTie and sorry about the mess earlier
[14:17] <Ubuntivity> ShorTie: I remember why I want to edit the image: Because I want to use it in qemu emulator
[14:19] <ShorTie> hmmm, put it on, set it up just like you want, then just reimage it then i guess
[14:19] <Ubuntivity> ShorTie: Using a read SD card, right?
[14:19] <Ubuntivity> *real
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[14:19] <ShorTie> ya
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[14:20] <Ubuntivity> Is there any way that doesn't involve an actual SD card? Like mounting the image somehow (loop or something)??
[14:20] <Triffid_Hunter> filesystem is pretty standard, should be able to mount it on your pc. ask google how to mount partitions with loop
[14:20] <ShorTie> that would be beyound my mental capacity
[14:20] <Triffid_Hunter> basically just involves getting the offset and size from fdisk and feeding to losetup
[14:21] <Ubuntivity> Thanks Triffid_Hunter. I'll google that.
[14:21] <fugutive221> I can't make my Sitecom N150 work on RaspBMC
[14:21] <fugutive221> I already followed: allow-hotplug wlan0
[14:21] <fugutive221> auto wlan0
[14:21] <fugutive221> I mean: http://www.wickeddutch.com/2013/07/20/raspberry-pi-sitecom-n150-wifi-adapter/
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[14:23] <ShorTie> you need to define what you want in /etc/network/interfaces for it to work right on boot
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[14:25] <fugutive221> ShorTie If I put the information of /etc/network/interfaces of that website into the file on the SD card It will not ssh through ethernet anymore and wifi doesn't not seem to work then
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[14:28] <ShorTie> like what do you have in /etc/network/interfaces ??
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[14:29] <fugutive221> ShorTie Nothing
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[14:29] <fugutive221> I thought that xbmc would handle the rest
[14:29] <fugutive221> ??
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[14:32] <ShorTie> na, it's up to you to define it
[14:32] <ShorTie> or it is best
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[14:33] <ShorTie> you need at least what it says there
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[14:34] <mrmoney2012> chaps i have a file /etc/networks/interfaces
[14:34] <ShorTie> now don't forget that the stuff it quotes needs changed to your likings
[14:34] <mrmoney2012> it has a line in it like iface wlan0 inet dhcp ... and then network credentials- works fine
[14:34] <mrmoney2012> i just like to know if it's possible to put ore than one wifi network in there so if i am somewhere else it will choose?
[14:34] <ShorTie> and i might want to forget that 'wireless-poer off' stuff
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[14:35] <fugutive221> ShorTie That maybe the problem...
[14:35] <ShorTie> why might that be ??
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[14:35] <fugutive221> I don't know
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[14:35] <ShorTie> oh
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[14:35] <fugutive221> Just being hopeful (:\)
[14:36] <ShorTie> hard for me to know then, lol.
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[14:39] <mrmoney2012> any ideas - possible to pre define multiple wifi networks just like a phone or tablet - so it selects any available
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[14:41] <ShorTie> have you just tried putting multiple entries in to see if it works ??
[14:42] <mrmoney2012> no - did think i might
[14:42] <mrmoney2012> you think will work
[14:43] <mrmoney2012> multiple iface wlan0 inet dhcp
[14:43] <mrmoney2012> or just multiple wpa-ssid and wpa-psk lines (indented)
[14:43] <mrmoney2012> unsure of syntax
[14:46] <ShorTie> i would try just multiple wpa-ssid and wpa-psk lines first cause that is what defines the network you want to connect to
[14:46] <[SLB]> http://www.geeked.info/raspberry-pi-add-multiple-wifi-access-points/
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[14:48] <mrmoney2012> ok... my setup is different to that one ... cat: /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf: No such file or directory
[14:48] <mrmoney2012> i do it all in /etc/networks/interfaces
[14:49] <[SLB]> it's equivalent i think
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[14:54] <mrmoney2012> ok
[14:54] <ShorTie> you most likely need to make /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf yourself
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[14:56] <mrmoney2012> i could but rather keep it in /etc/networks/interfaces
[14:57] <[SLB]> i think the pre-up directive here has a fundamental role, but i may as well be wrong, never used this setup myself
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[15:06] <Kymru> anyone with experience of tor on here who can look at this and give me some idea why i am getting a fail notice when i restart tor - http://pastebin.com/N0xwsTWM
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[15:09] <SpeedEvil> have you created the torrc file?
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[15:10] <Kymru> yes, i edited the one that was there already
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[15:14] <Kymru> i think i know what i have done
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[15:45] <juniour> hi there i have tplink nano wireless adapter how to make it work with pi plz help
[15:47] <juniour> any help????
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[15:47] <slug> juniour: model ?
[15:48] <juniour> TL-W725N
[15:48] <juniour> TL-WN725N
[15:49] <juniour> slug ??
[15:49] <slug> juniour: quick web search got me this: http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=29752
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[15:51] <slug> juniour: http://askubuntu.com/a/297168 this might also be useful, what does lsusb tell you about your wifi adapter?
[15:52] <juniour> yes lsusb yes usb detected
[15:52] <clever> and does iwconfig list it?
[15:52] <Bundestrojaner> what is the problem with connecting tablet-displays to a raspberry?
[15:52] <Bundestrojaner> I can't find something about that on the internet?
[15:52] <juniour> but cant connet to network
[15:53] <slug> juniour: what's the usb id? that was my intent
[15:54] <Triffid_Hunter> Bundestrojaner: they don't generally have hdmi in, and I don't think rpi has lvds out at the moment
[15:54] <Triffid_Hunter> Bundestrojaner: if you find one with hdmi, it should work
[15:54] <juniour> slug my mon scolding jut going to shop comming in min sorry bro
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[15:57] <Yugnoswam> RBP just arrived :D
[15:58] <Bundestrojaner> Triffid_Hunter: that could be the problem...
[15:58] <Bundestrojaner> They should be cheap, very low power consumption,...
[15:58] <Bundestrojaner> Are there no converter ICs?
[15:58] <Triffid_Hunter> Bundestrojaner: ask google
[15:58] <Yugnoswam> ask jeeves ;)
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[15:59] <ReggieUK> try looking at this:
[15:59] <ReggieUK> http://spritesmods.com/?art=rpi_arcade
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[15:59] <ReggieUK> pretty simple to make your own lcd controller
[15:59] <ReggieUK> http://spritesmods.com/?art=rpi_arcade&page=2
[15:59] <ReggieUK> there's even a schematic :D
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[16:12] <juniour> slug u there????
[16:12] <Yugnoswam> Anyone got a walkthrough for running XBMC on a raspberry pi?
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[16:12] <slug> juniour: yeah
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[16:13] <juniour> slug sorry bro
[16:13] <juniour> ask me what you want
[16:13] <slug> juniour: what does lsusb say about your device ?
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[16:14] <juniour> slug this i got Bus 002 Device 006: ID 0bda:8179 Realtek Semiconductor Corp.
[16:14] <juniour> slug i am in ubuntu now
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[16:14] <juniour> ubuntu 12.04
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[16:14] <slug> juniour: so, from http://askubuntu.com/questions/295476/tp-link-wirless-n-tl-wn725n/297168#297168 it seems you have version 2 of that device. did you try to follow the instructions on that link ?
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[16:15] <juniour> yea i have version 2
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[16:30] <YellowGTO> I think I have zoneminder and pi running perfectly
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[16:47] <Yugnoswam> RBP Model 2 needs 700mA at 5V right?
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[16:50] <Yugnoswam> I have a charger that says Output: 5v / 850mA
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[16:50] <Yugnoswam> Is that ok to use?
[16:53] <[SLB]> yes, the 700mA is the minumum
[16:53] <Yugnoswam> ok
[16:53] <DMackey> I'm running my RPi off of a 7 port hub.
[16:54] <Yugnoswam> Ok so I want to just plug a USB drive in and play video files off it, keyboard for navigation. What do I need for that?
[16:54] <[SLB]> i use my pc usb port :3
[16:54] <[SLB]> usb drive as in hard disc?
[16:54] <juniour> hi there
[16:55] <Yugnoswam> yeah HDD
[16:55] <Yugnoswam> The memory card that came with it is NOOBS v1.2.1
[16:55] <juniour> ia m not able to install linux header
[16:55] <[SLB]> that would most likely need a powered hub to run
[16:55] <juniour> uname -r gives 3.6.11+
[16:55] <Yugnoswam> [SLB], can it not run off the USB power?
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[16:56] <[SLB]> i don't think it could :\ also those 850mA are quite low to power the usb disc anyway
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[16:57] <Yugnoswam> the HDD doesn't have a power port on it
[16:57] <[SLB]> you should use a powered hub and a y cable i suppose
[16:58] <Yugnoswam> Anyway, what do I need to play video files off the HDD? I was told XBMC was good
[16:58] <DMackey> Ya better get yourself a nice powered USB hub then
[16:58] <juniour> hi any one help me with installing linux header
[16:59] <Yugnoswam> http://puu.sh/5xMMK That's what I have on screen atm. Any of them what I need?
[16:59] <Yugnoswam> RaspBMC?
[16:59] <Yugnoswam> shiftplusone, I think it was you that recommended what I needed
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[17:03] <juniour> is any one hereeee
[17:03] <Yugnoswam> yup
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[17:09] <juniour> need help with need to install linux header will you help me
[17:09] <juniour> ??
[17:10] <Yugnoswam> nobody is around apparently, I'm waiting on help myself still
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[17:13] <Sonny_Jim> The kernel headers?
[17:13] <juniour> can any body help me with installing linux headers 3.6.11+
[17:13] <Sonny_Jim> Sure
[17:13] <Yugnoswam> sod it I'm installing RaspBMC.. Really hope that his has enough power for a USB HDD.
[17:13] <Sonny_Jim> Yugnoswam: Power?
[17:13] <juniour> 3.6.11+
[17:14] <juniour> i cant find this headers
[17:14] <Yugnoswam> Sonny_Jim, my HDD is USB Powered, was mentioned about the pi might not be enough to power it
[17:15] <Sonny_Jim> Right, so changing to RaspBMC isn't going to change that
[17:15] <Sonny_Jim> It's a hardware issue from the sounds of it
[17:15] <Sonny_Jim> But feel free to try
[17:15] <juniour> yi get uname -a
[17:15] <juniour> Linux raspberrypi 3.6.11+ #538 PREEMPT Fri Aug 30 20:42:08 BST 2013 armv6l GNU/Linux
[17:16] <juniour> y i get 3.6.11+ header
[17:16] <Sonny_Jim> juniour: I'm not 100% sure, but isn't it this package:
[17:16] <Sonny_Jim> linux-headers-rpi
[17:16] <Yugnoswam> Sonny_Jim, I didn't say it was. Just trying out RaspBMC for what I need from the pi, to play video files.
[17:16] <Sonny_Jim> Yugnoswam: Ah ok, makes sense
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[17:16] <Sonny_Jim> It's probably going to be a better distro if that's the end use
[17:16] <Yugnoswam> I only just got the pi like an hour ago lol, not tried anything out yet
[17:16] <juniour> Sonny_Jim need to install same as listed by uname -a
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[17:17] <Sonny_Jim> juniour: If you installed the kernel through apt-get, my understanding is that package should pull in the correct kernel headers
[17:17] <YellowGTO> make sure you have a good usb charger. I find GS3/4 Note 2/3 chargers works great
[17:18] <Yugnoswam> Uh, how do I turn the pi off since there is no power switch. Just pull the plug?
[17:18] <juniour> Sonny_Jim i tried telling linuxheader-3.6.11+ not found
[17:18] <Sonny_Jim> have you tried:
[17:18] <Sonny_Jim> sudo apt-get install linux-headers-rpi ?
[17:19] <Mrgoose> anyone have a suggestion on using bluetooth in python with the raspberry pi? I want to be able to detect when a devicee comes into range
[17:20] <juniour> make ARCH=armv6l CROSS_COMPILE= -C /lib/modules/3.6.11+/build M=/home/pi/RTL8188EU/rpi-rtl8188eu modules
[17:20] <juniour> make: *** /lib/modules/3.6.11+/build: No such file or directory. Stop.
[17:20] <juniour> make: *** [modules] Error 2
[17:20] <Yugnoswam> Sonny_Jim, it's the charger from my phone, 5v 850mA
[17:20] <Yugnoswam> erm, YellowGTO * ^
[17:21] <Sonny_Jim> Yugnoswam: From what I understand, the USB ports are current limited by the hardware, so the two options are:
[17:21] <Sonny_Jim> 1. Modify the Pi hardware to bypass the current limiter (polyfuse I think)
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[17:21] <Sonny_Jim> 2. Use a powered USB hub
[17:21] <Sonny_Jim> I'd go for option 2, personally
[17:21] <Yugnoswam> powered USB hub?
[17:22] <Sonny_Jim> Sure
[17:22] <juniour> Sonny_Jim wts yor output in raspberry uname -r ???
[17:22] <Sonny_Jim> Same as yours
[17:22] <juniour> 3.6.11+
[17:22] <juniour> ?
[17:22] <juniour> this one
[17:23] <Sonny_Jim> Yes
[17:23] <juniour> k
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[17:24] <Yugnoswam> so how do I turn the Pi off? Just pull the plug?
[17:24] <Sonny_Jim> No, really you should shut it down like any other PC
[17:24] <Yugnoswam> alright
[17:24] <Sonny_Jim> sudo poweroff
[17:24] <Yugnoswam> or the power button I just noticed in the corner XD
[17:25] <Sonny_Jim> You have a power button?
[17:25] <Yugnoswam> http://puu.sh/5xNNT on that
[17:25] <Sonny_Jim> What witchcraft is this!
[17:25] <Yugnoswam> lol
[17:25] <Yugnoswam> once its powered off, unplug?
[17:25] <Yugnoswam> Although the red light is still on..
[17:26] <Kymru> Yugnoswam, why power off the Pi?
[17:26] <Yugnoswam> so I can move it
[17:26] <Kymru> lol ok
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[17:26] <YellowGTO> Yeah Yugnoswam the samsung OEM note 3 charger is 2amps
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[17:27] <Yugnoswam> It's a Sony Charger.
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[17:28] <Yugnoswam> Sony Charger EP800
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[17:32] <YellowGTO> Anyone working on raspberry pi lenses?
[17:32] <Yugnoswam> well it seems to have picked up my usb pen drive, and is playing a 1080p video fine
[17:32] <Yugnoswam> Although the audio is incredibly blown out for some reason
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[17:34] <Mrgoose> can you use the xbox kinect with the raspberry pi
[17:35] <clever> i think so, but ive not seen any articles either way
[17:35] <clever> should be as simple as just compiling the program and stuffing in the usb cable, with a powered hub
[17:36] <Yugnoswam> kinect is externally powered anyway
[17:36] <clever> ah, i thought it sucked the juice off the usb port
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[17:43] <Yugnoswam> oh dear
[17:44] <Yugnoswam> "kernal commit I/O error" spammed down the left side of the screen
[17:44] <Yugnoswam> any idea what that means?
[17:45] <Sonny_Jim> SD card slot is loose maybe
[17:45] <Yugnoswam> unplugged it and plugged it back in, working now
[17:46] <Sonny_Jim> Whilst it was on?
[17:46] <Yugnoswam> it'd locked up
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[17:46] <Yugnoswam> the audio is incredibly blown out :s
[17:47] <Sonny_Jim> Distorted?
[17:47] <Yugnoswam> very
[17:47] <Sonny_Jim> alsamixer maybe
[17:47] <Yugnoswam> hm?
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[17:49] <Yugnoswam> http://puu.sh/5xOYZ That's the sound options I have
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[17:52] <Yugnoswam> I have the audio going from my TV into my PC so I can see the levels, it's whenever the audio hits 100% volume it's very static filled/distorted
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[17:54] <Yugnoswam> could it be to do with the file type? http://puu.sh/5xPfy.png
[17:54] <Yugnoswam> Or HDMi cable?
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[18:00] <Yugnoswam> sorted it
[18:00] <Yugnoswam> was the HDMi cable
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[18:04] <Sonny_Jim> Weird
[18:04] <YellowGTO> Oh wow
[18:05] <YellowGTO> OUDOO is quadcore arm
[18:05] <Yugnoswam> ok so it can power my 8GB PenDrive just fine..
[18:05] <Yugnoswam> Wonder if it will power my 500GB HDD
[18:07] <Sonny_Jim> My guess is "nope"
[18:08] <juniour> iam frusted with linux header problem
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[18:08] <Sonny_Jim> Frustrated?
[18:08] <Sonny_Jim> You are trying to compile a wifi module?
[18:08] <juniour> yeppp
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[18:08] <juniour> http://peppermintos.net/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=5619
[18:09] <juniour> Sonny will you help me
[18:09] <juniour> ?
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[18:09] <juniour> make says /lib/modules/3.6.11+/build not found????
[18:10] <juniour> what this mean no build directory in /lib/modules/3.6.11+
[18:11] <juniour> any help
[18:12] <Yugnoswam> nope, not enough power
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[18:12] <Yugnoswam> Disk spins up but then stops from lack of power
[18:14] <Yugnoswam> http://www.ebuyer.com/259358-xenta-7-port-usb-2-0-hub-mains-or-passive-powered-n-uh702
[18:14] <Yugnoswam> Would that work do you reckon? I'd only be plugging in 1 drive at a time so the 500mA power supply wuold be enough I think
[18:15] <Sonny_Jim> I mean, strictly those HDD's aren't USB as I believe the spec says 500mA per port
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[18:31] <Yugnoswam> Sonny_Jim, would that Xenta one do the job then?
[18:31] <Sonny_Jim> I have no idea
[18:32] <Sonny_Jim> Probably?
[18:32] <Sonny_Jim> I mean, does it have it's own PSU?
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[18:36] <Yugnoswam> Can be used as a passive or active (mains powered) hub
[18:36] <Yugnoswam> Mains power AC adapter included
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[18:37] <Sonny_Jim> So more than likely it'll work
[18:37] <Sonny_Jim> But don't sue me or anything if it doesn't
[18:40] <Yugnoswam> lol I wont
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[18:40] <Yugnoswam> hm, found another charger. 5v 0.7A
[18:40] <Yugnoswam> Is that enough power?
[18:40] <Yugnoswam> just for the Pi itself I mean
[18:40] <jasabella> they recommend 5V 1A iirc
[18:41] <jasabella> use a mobile phone charger
[18:41] <jasabella> (assuming you talking about the rpi)
[18:41] <Sonny_Jim> It doesn't matter what ampage the charger is, it's limited to the USB ports on the Pi
[18:42] <Sonny_Jim> So you might be able to get the HDD to work with another charger and no active USB hub, but my money is on 'unlikely'
[18:42] <jasabella> yea you can exceed ampage, the device just wont draw it all
[18:42] <Sonny_Jim> Unless you get the soldering iron out and run a few wires direct to the USB socket from the PSU input
[18:42] <Yugnoswam> I said for the rpi itself, Sonny_Jim
[18:43] <Sonny_Jim> Oh sure
[18:43] <Yugnoswam> Just because I don't particularly want to use my phone charger for the Pi
[18:43] <Sonny_Jim> Makes sense
[18:43] <jasabella> you can get phone chargers cheap?
[18:43] <Sonny_Jim> The normal advice is "Get at least a 1A one"
[18:43] <jasabella> make sure you get the voltage right though
[18:44] <Yugnoswam> jasabella, I have a box full of old chargers lol
[18:44] <jasabella> (very important)
[18:44] <Yugnoswam> it says on 5V 0.7A
[18:44] <juniour> any one here know about linux-headers-generic
[18:44] <juniour> ??
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[18:45] <jasabella> not enough juice!
[18:45] <Sonny_Jim> Well, it'll work
[18:45] <Sonny_Jim> But it's hard to say if it will work 100% of the time
[18:45] <jasabella> arent usb ports like up to 0.5 A each?
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[18:46] <Sonny_Jim> I use mine headless most of the time, so 0.7A is fine for me
[18:46] <solid> Hi guys, i want to capture a video using ffmpeg using latest Raspbian image and ffmpeg: but I get error? http://pastie.org/8519214
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[18:47] <Yugnoswam> Well I've ordered that USB Power Hub for the HDD so it doesn't draw any from the Pi
[18:47] <Yugnoswam> for now I can still use my USB Pen Drive for it, that works fine
[18:48] <Sonny_Jim> solid: looks to me ffmpeg is expecting a series of JPEG frames as an input and that isn't happening
[18:49] <Sonny_Jim> Also, the depreciated part makes me think you should try another program
[18:49] <solid> Sonny_Jim: exactly. I am running the same command on my Ubuntu by plugging camera to my laptop, and it works like a charm.
[18:50] <Sonny_Jim> This is just to record the video from the camera, right?
[18:50] <solid> Yes.
[18:50] <Sonny_Jim> The Pi camera or just a USB one?
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[18:51] <solid> JTECH RN-3700 Black USB Webcam
[18:51] <Sonny_Jim> avconv -f video4linux2 -i /dev/video0 video0.avi
[18:51] <Sonny_Jim> That's what a quick google says to use
[18:51] <Sonny_Jim> And also that you may have issues if you aren't using a powered hub
[18:53] <solid> So the issue might be not powering well enough?
[18:53] <Sonny_Jim> I think you shouldn't be using ffmpeg
[18:53] <Sonny_Jim> but YMMV
[18:55] <solid> LoL, using avconv I even get error in the laptop lol :) solid@galactica:~$ avconv -f video4linux2 -i /dev/video1 video0.avi
[18:55] <solid> avconv version 0.8.9-6:0.8.9-0ubuntu0.13.04.1, Copyright (c) 2000-2013 the Libav developers
[18:55] <solid> built on Nov 9 2013 19:09:48 with gcc 4.7.3
[18:55] <solid> avconv: /build/buildd/libav-extra-0.8.9ubuntu0.13.04.1/libav/libavutil/mathematics.c:79: av_rescale_rnd: Assertion `c > 0' failed.
[18:55] <solid> Aborted (core dumped)
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[19:00] <Sonny_Jim> That's a funky error
[19:00] <Sonny_Jim> You compiled if from source?
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[19:03] <solid> No, of course i got it from package manager
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[19:03] <solid> But I think you guys are right, maybe Pi does not have power to function it well , although the led in the camera blinks when i connect it
[19:04] <Sonny_Jim> dmesg say anything about it?
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[19:12] <solid> http://pastie.org/8519262 for dmesg output after plugging camera
[19:13] <solid> Seems that system succesfully recognizes the brand and manufacturer
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[19:32] <gordonDrogon> evening.
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[19:37] <Sonny_Jim> lo gordonDrogon
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[19:44] <gordonDrogon> any Gertduino owners here?
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[19:52] <ShorTie> this is from another channel, but a real interesting read up on memory
[19:52] <ShorTie> http://www.dailytech.com/Coalition+of+20+Tech+Firms+Backs+MRAM+as+Potential+DRAM+NAND+Replacement/article33826.htm
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[19:56] <solid> I was disconnected how can i get log of the channel for last 1 hour ?
[19:57] <shiftplusone> using the /topic command
[19:57] <sney> solid: nobody responded to your issue anyway
[19:57] <ShorTie> but who reads that ??
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[20:07] <drag0nius> is there much difference in performance between SD card boot and NFS boot?
[20:08] <Sonny_Jim> I have no empirical evidence for this, but I would think NFS would be slightly slower
[20:08] <Sonny_Jim> But 100% cooler ;-)
[20:08] <Sonny_Jim> Are you worried about wearing the card out, hence NFS?
[20:08] <shiftplusone> Gordon was saying a while back that you can get line speed over NFS
[20:09] <Sonny_Jim> 'line speed'?
[20:09] <drag0nius> nah, i'm run out of space on SD (comparing all available distros, after installing them and "fixing" some stuff on raspbian i have 50 mb left)
[20:10] <Sonny_Jim> Ah ok
[20:10] <shiftplusone> Speed allowed by the ethernet controller... hang on, searching the logs.
[20:10] <Sonny_Jim> Oh right
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[20:11] * Sonny_Jim checks out the benchmarks
[20:12] <Sonny_Jim> My brain is saying to me that for reading/writing lots of small files (apt-get for instance) that SD would be quicker
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[20:12] <Sonny_Jim> But let's find out
[20:12] <Sonny_Jim> From here http://elinux.org/RPi_Performance
[20:13] <Sonny_Jim> 'Fast' USB stick = ~30MB/s
[20:13] <ShadowJK> Typically SD and usb flash sticks are slowest for writing small files.
[20:14] <Sonny_Jim> From here http://elinux.org/RPi_SD_cards#Performance
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[20:14] <Sonny_Jim> Between 5MB/s going up to about 20MB/s for SD cards
[20:14] <baseline> My pi has developed a really strange symptom and I don't even know where to begin fixing it
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[20:14] <baseline> My sound has spontaneously started 'chirping' during movies
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[20:15] <baseline> it sounds like the audio tracks are speeding up for a split-second and then returning to their normal speed
[20:15] <baseline> does anyone… have a clue… whaa?
[20:15] <baseline> it's not data loss, I can stream stuff from the pi just fine
[20:16] <shiftplusone> baseline, is this through the analog jack?
[20:16] <baseline> HDMI
[20:16] <shiftplusone> odd
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[20:16] <Sonny_Jim> Hmm, the figures for NIC performance are confusing
[20:16] <Sonny_Jim> http://elinux.org/RPi_Performance
[20:16] <Sonny_Jim> Now does "X + Y" stand for Read/write?
[20:16] <shiftplusone> drag0nius, Sonny_Jim a bit of digging... it seems like you can get about 10MB/s over NFS? (still digging though)
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[20:18] <Sonny_Jim> Looks to be that way
[20:18] <Sonny_Jim> Well, the raw performance is about 90Mbits/s best case, so that's a little about 10MB/s
[20:18] <gordonDrogon> line speed is ~10MB/sec - so slower than an SD card at 20Mb/sec
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[20:19] <Sonny_Jim> So it goes USB > SD > NFS
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[20:19] <Sonny_Jim> Err, other way around
[20:19] <gordonDrogon> interactive stuff doesn't seem to make much difference - compiling a 20K line program over nfs is no different from compiling locally (cpu bottleneck)
[20:19] <shiftplusone> gordonDrogon, is that 20Mb or 20 MB?
[20:19] <gordonDrogon> MBytes.
[20:20] <gordonDrogon> root@dragonpi:~# hdparm -t /dev/mmcblk0
[20:20] <gordonDrogon> /dev/mmcblk0:
[20:20] <gordonDrogon> Timing buffered disk reads: 60 MB in 3.02 seconds = 19.86 MB/sec
[20:20] <shiftplusone> that's not quite what you get in practice though
[20:21] <gordonDrogon> sure - raw sped vs. real-world
[20:21] <Sonny_Jim> Sure, but it gives you an upper limit
[20:21] * Sonny_Jim tries his card
[20:21] <gordonDrogon> but with nfs it's the same - you can pull files at about 10MBytes/sec.
[20:21] <shiftplusone> Looks like about 4-10MB/sec is more realistic. What's a realistic NFS read speed?
[20:22] <gordonDrogon> I don't have a Pi booted with NFS right now though.
[20:22] <shiftplusone> ah ok
[20:22] <Sonny_Jim> Hmm
[20:22] <Sonny_Jim> /run/udev or .udevdb or .udev presence implies active udev. Aborting MAKEDEV invocation.
[20:22] <gordonDrogon> let me mount something on a Pi.
[20:22] <shiftplusone> It sounds like the actual answer is "it depends"
[20:22] <Sonny_Jim> Timing buffered disk reads: 44 MB in 3.04 seconds = 14.47 MB/sec
[20:22] <Sonny_Jim> So there's not much between them
[20:24] <shiftplusone> I'd argue that if an NFS root or home is an option, it may be worth whatever slow down there may be.
[20:24] <shiftplusone> depends on your needs 'course though.
[20:25] <Sonny_Jim> Nice to know though
[20:25] <Sonny_Jim> So really, it doesn't matter a whole great deal unless your SD card is really poor
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[20:26] <shiftplusone> or susceptible to corruption
[20:26] <Sonny_Jim> I've actually been OK recently
[20:26] <gordonDrogon> root@dragonpi:/common/gordon# time cp test100m /dev/null
[20:26] <gordonDrogon> real 0m9.857s
[20:26] <gordonDrogon> user 0m0.000s
[20:26] <gordonDrogon> sys 0m2.630s
[20:26] <Sonny_Jim> Used to get corruption all the time
[20:26] <shiftplusone> Sonny_Jim, running the new firmware or not?
[20:26] <gordonDrogon> so just under 10 seconds to pull a 100MB file via NFS. thats just over 10MB/sec.
[20:26] <Sonny_Jim> I think it's a combination of newer kernel plus dodgy contacts on the slot
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[20:27] <Sonny_Jim> I'm running whatever firmware apt-get has given me
[20:27] <Sonny_Jim> *fixing dodgy contacts
[20:28] <shiftplusone> doesn't look like the raspbian or foundation firmware packages have been updated.
[20:29] <Sonny_Jim> Oh this was a while ago that I was getting problems and I've reimaged since then
[20:29] <Sonny_Jim> Maybe 2-3 months
[20:29] <shiftplusone> ah
[20:29] <Sonny_Jim> but fingers crossed it's been fine
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[20:29] <shiftplusone> didn't change sd cards either?
[20:29] <Sonny_Jim> Plus it was outside in a cold shed whereas now it's inside
[20:29] <Sonny_Jim> Nope, same card
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[20:30] <Sonny_Jim> Was driving me bananas though. It did mean I got used to pushing any of the code I had done to github on a regular basis
[20:31] <shiftplusone> D= I wouldn't dream of storing code on the pi alone
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[20:35] <Sonny_Jim> So, erm, what was the original question that sparked this?
[20:35] <shiftplusone> <drag0nius> is there much difference in performance between SD card boot and NFS boot?
[20:36] <Sonny_Jim> Oh, is there much of a speed difference, which I believe the answer is "Depends on the card"
[20:36] <shiftplusone> but I think he stopped caring a while back
[20:36] <Sonny_Jim> ie If you have a terrible card (5MB/s) then yes
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[20:38] <gordonDrogon> my experience with root on nfs is that it's fine - it is a little slower, but everything is still usable.
[20:38] <gordonDrogon> I think latency might even be slower, but I've not checked.
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[20:43] <rikkib> This camera has been running for a year on nfs no problem http://122.61.65.146:8081
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[21:42] <hosler> is there a command line tool to program arduino uno? i dont want to have to use the IDE on my pi
[21:43] <shiftplusone> avrdude should do it, right?
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[21:44] <hosler> shiftplusone: ill google it
[21:44] <Koopz> hi there... i might need to ask a dumb question... there is this project (https://github.com/Aloshi/EmulationStation) and under the "Building" paragraph it says there are special libraries located in /opt/vc/. How high is the chance that i'm missing one of those libraries?
[21:44] <shiftplusone> good luck, I am 99% sure avrdude is the answer, it's just a matter of using the right settings.
[21:46] <shiftplusone> Koopz, very unlikely. What problem are you running into?
[21:46] <Koopz> the problem is i'm not able to run said project on my Raspbmc
[21:46] <hosler> shiftplusone: http://playground.arduino.cc/Learning/CommandLine
[21:46] <hosler> lol ill need luck for that to be evwerything i need
[21:47] <sney> Koopz: those libraries seem to be in the libraspberrypi and -dev packages, the foundation image includes them, not sure about other raspbian installs but they're available
[21:47] <shiftplusone> looks right to me
[21:47] <shiftplusone> Koopz, do you have a specific error?
[21:48] <Koopz> no errors at all. i tried starting EmulationStation from the command line but the screen just freezes...
[21:48] <Koopz> how can i check if my distro has said libraries?
[21:48] <shiftplusone> If it was an issue with the libraries, it would be more vocal about it
[21:48] <sney> 'apt-cache search libraspberrypi' to see if they're available, 'apt-cache policy packagename' to see if it's installed
[21:49] <Koopz> unfortunately i don't know the package names of said libraries
[21:49] <shiftplusone> he just told you
[21:49] <Koopz> eh...
[21:50] <shiftplusone> <sney> Koopz: those libraries seem to be in the libraspberrypi and -dev packages, the foundation image includes them, not sure about other raspbian installs but they're available
[21:51] <Koopz> apt-cache search libraspberrypi <-empty response... for the dev ones i'll need to do "apt-cache search libraspberrypi-dev" right?
[21:52] <Koopz> also empty
[21:52] <shiftplusone> sney, sure those are the right names?
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[21:53] <sney> libraspberrypi0 and libraspberrypi-dev
[21:53] <hosler> this lapdock has a good battery
[21:54] <sney> http://paste.debian.net/68628/ shiftplusone Koopz
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[21:55] <shiftplusone> any chance that raspbmc does not use the foundation repo?
[21:55] <Koopz> pi@raspbmc:~$ apt-cache policy libraspberrypi0 libraspberrypi-dev
[21:55] <Koopz> N: Unable to locate package libraspberrypi0
[21:55] <Koopz> N: Unable to locate package libraspberrypi-dev
[21:55] <Koopz> oh well
[21:56] <shiftplusone> I blame raspbmc then.
[21:56] <hosler> Koopz: google for package names
[21:56] <sney> indeed.
[21:56] <shiftplusone> either way, I don't think the libraries are the problem
[21:56] <sney> I wonder how safe it would be to just add the foundation repo
[21:56] <sney> without an error message it's hard to know what the issue is
[21:57] <sney> those *bmc distros tend to hid stderr too
[21:57] <sney> hide, even
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[21:57] <Koopz> oh
[21:57] <shiftplusone> if you must use a more general purpose xbmc distro, xbian may make more sense, since they try not to break things (or so I've been told)
[21:58] <Koopz> well i should try searching for those then
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[22:00] <hosler> does rasbian not already have gcc installed?
[22:00] <Koopz> hmm... where would those errors be logged?
[22:00] <shiftplusone> Koopz, try #raspbmc
[22:01] <Koopz> those guys are dead
[22:01] <hosler> does it freeze when running X?
[22:01] <hosler> check dmesg too
[22:02] <Koopz> i contacted the developer of EmulationStation and he said the following:
[22:02] <Koopz> On the Raspberry Pi, EmulationStation is designed to work fine without a window manager or X server (it uses SDL to get input which works fine through the terminal and then uses the Broadcom libraries to "directly" render with OpenGL)
[22:02] <shiftplusone> that's not an answer O_o
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[22:03] <shiftplusone> unless the question was... like that too.
[22:03] <Koopz> eh...
[22:03] <Koopz> i've tried running it on x but the startscript for emulationstation told me to shutdown the x server
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[22:04] <Koopz> though the dev told me that it should work fine on X too and i can alter the script in order to make it work with X
[22:04] <Koopz> i think i'll try that now
[22:04] <shiftplusone> why don't you try it under raspbian so that we can start to isolate the issue?
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[22:06] <Koopz> it's 10pm here and i don't really want to flush my only SD card in order to set up my Rpi again... but i guess i don't have any other chance
[22:06] <Koopz> choice*
[22:07] <Koopz> well screw it... i can install XBMC on Raspbian too...
[22:07] <shiftplusone> If you know what you're doing, you'll be fine figuring out the problem with raspbmc, but since you're asking for help publicly, it would be easier for us if you work from a more familiar distro, that's all.
[22:08] <shiftplusone> Since we can't run strace and dig through your log files personally.
[22:08] <Koopz> yep... that'd probably be too much to ask
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[22:12] <shiftplusone> do you know how to use gdb?
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[22:18] <Koopz> gdb?
[22:18] <shiftplusone> ah, never mind then.
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[22:30] <somenewguy> I am looking to do a car computer w/ my raspi, and am thinking about an emergency shutdown UPS
[22:30] <somenewguy> ie it will retain power just long enough for the raspi to shutdown safely
[22:30] <shiftplusone> Well, you do have the 12V from the battery available to you.
[22:30] <somenewguy> I imagine I can use a gpio pin as a "power fault" pin and have it triger a "shutdown -h" or whatever the proper kill command would be
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[22:31] <somenewguy> I do, but it is cold where I live and I don't like hte idea of draining my battery
[22:31] <shiftplusone> Yeah, I mean only to provide the necessary power to let the pi shut down, not to keep it running.
[22:31] <somenewguy> so I am thinking a small li-ion battery setup as a ups, and when the battery is no longer being charged, ie car power is gone, it tells the raspi to shutdown
[22:31] <shiftplusone> this comes up often. Are you interested in making something yourself (which will take a fair bit of effort) or do you want to buy something made for this purpose?
[22:31] <somenewguy> I am wondering if there are any decent writeups where people have done this?
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[22:32] <somenewguy> i see plenty of schematics for circuits that might work, but very little code if any
[22:32] <somenewguy> I am going to make my own
[22:32] <shiftplusone> again though, why li-ion?
[22:32] <somenewguy> I have a HUGE stash or em
[22:32] <somenewguy> *of em
[22:32] <somenewguy> no other reason lol
[22:32] <shiftplusone> you're overcomplicating it though, since you'll need to switch power sources for no reason.
[22:33] <somenewguy> well actually I want to get some experience playing with them in my car, as I might make an electric bike next year and do NOT want my first LIION experience to be betwen my legs...
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[22:33] <somenewguy> well I don't want the raspi always on
[22:34] <shiftplusone> Again, nobody is talking about always on
[22:34] <somenewguy> since it could either A drain the car battery, or B, I do a lot of work on this car and remove the battery very often, so I don't want to accidnelty pull power while its on
[22:34] <somenewguy> what would you suggest?
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[22:35] <somenewguy> oh and the raspi will be run headless from my cell phone, so there is no keyboard or display planned
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[22:35] <somenewguy> there will also be a tplink, the raspis main job in life will be a music player that anyone w/ a smart phone can control
[22:35] <ShorTie> that is a it sounds easy project, but in reality is very complicated
[22:35] <somenewguy> if that makes any difference
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[22:36] <somenewguy> haha yeah, thats why it has taken me 3 months after recieving my rapsi to even start working on it
[22:36] <somenewguy> I have MPD running over my LAN at home, so thats one win for the home team
[22:36] <shiftplusone> The basic building blocks would involve reading the ignition to see whether the keys are in, and controlling a relay to cut the power to the pi when necessary.
[22:37] <shiftplusone> Then are existing solutions for this, but if you want to roll your own, there are lots of approaches to accomplish this.
[22:37] <shiftplusone> We had this discussion a while back with lots of good ideas coming up. Let me dig through the logs for a second and see if I can find it maybe.
[22:38] <somenewguy> that I can do
[22:38] <somenewguy> thank you
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[22:39] <somenewguy> I have a pretty solid amount of arduino experience, been playing with circuits for a long time, cars as well etc etc, so I consider myself compent enough to break somethign expensive
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[22:39] <somenewguy> I am rolling my own for most of the system to try and learn more. i am a mech engineer so I try to branch out in my hobbies and work has me doing more and more coding so I am looking to strengthen my random knowlege set
[22:42] <shiftplusone> somenewguy, http://srv.datagutt1.com/index.php?date=2013-10-16 [21:50] onwards
[22:44] <shiftplusone> so monitor the ignition through gpio, when the engine is off, tell the pi to start a timed circuit which will cut the power after a certain time and tell the pi to shut down.
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[22:45] <shiftplusone> a simple 555 circuit would be enough, though people have implemented the same thing with microcontrolers instead
[22:47] <somenewguy> oh duh that is easy enough...
[22:47] <somenewguy> hmmm
[22:47] <shiftplusone> until you complicate it with your li-ion madness.
[22:48] <shiftplusone> (good learning experience though)
[22:49] <somenewguy> haha yeah
[22:49] <somenewguy> I have a chip that I thought would do end out being more usefull than it really is so far
[22:49] <steve_rox> havein fun?
[22:49] <somenewguy> its meant to charge a liion from usb, but will also control device power
[22:49] <somenewguy> and intelligently jump from charging power source to battery source
[22:49] <shiftplusone> yeah, that's the way to do it.
[22:49] <somenewguy> but I had got that for a different project, and the voltages aren't quite woring out here
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[22:50] <somenewguy> my car has a big ole second fuse panel w/ relays from when I used to run two batteries
[22:50] <randomA> Hey, what OS should i get for my raspberry pi if I want it to be able to run and compile java programs?
[22:50] <shiftplusone> randomA, any. Raspbian will do it just fine.
[22:50] <somenewguy> both lead acid, but it would only power my "spare" stuff from the backup battery when the engine was off unless I flipped a switch
[22:50] <randomA> shiftplusone: great, thanks
[22:51] <somenewguy> stopped me from draining the battery by accident, but Icould do it on purpose if I wanted
[22:51] <shiftplusone> randomA, good luck
[22:51] <somenewguy> but the liion obviously needs to be isolated from car power and properly charged/tended so I can't do it dumbly like that sadly
[22:51] <somenewguy> oh man are there a alot of fun raspi accessories for sale out there
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[22:52] <somenewguy> I hadn't looked in so long I didn't even stop to think lol
[22:52] <steve_rox> what fun accessories do you have in mind?
[22:52] <somenewguy> well I have a pi face that I bought since I got lazy about making yet ANOTHER good relay driver board
[22:53] <somenewguy> but now I need a analog input board, so I don't have to slave an arduino to the raspi
[22:53] <steve_rox> err i see
[22:53] <somenewguy> after I get my carputer running my stereo on its own, I will be adding a sexy sensor suite
[22:53] <steve_rox> i do have a 8 channel relay board
[22:54] <steve_rox> the relays have a somewhat low max amp support tho
[22:54] <somenewguy> how low?
[22:54] <steve_rox> so you couldent run any heavy 240v devices thu it without melting it
[22:54] <somenewguy> I have like a 8 amp or so 12v blower fan which is the beefiest
[22:55] <steve_rox> i need someway to measure amps a device uses
[22:56] <steve_rox> thinking of makeing some electric ignition systems using 12v thu em
[22:56] <somenewguy> like in real time?
[22:56] <somenewguy> why not just use an ampmeter?
[22:56] <steve_rox> one does not run higher amps thu a cat1 meter
[22:57] <steve_rox> unless you wanna risk life
[22:58] <somenewguy> electric ignition? shouldn't be too high amps, although crazy voltage spikes right?
[22:58] <somenewguy> I feel like I missed the first half of your question or something sorry
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[22:58] <steve_rox> id be using a 12v batt for that
[22:59] <steve_rox> high current capible of makeing a thin wire glow
[23:00] <steve_rox> think its colder in the uk tonights
[23:00] <steve_rox> need to invent some kinda heating solution thing
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[23:02] <x0077BE> Hey raspbmc users: Is there a way to get a web browser on Raspbmc?
[23:03] <shiftplusone> #raspbmc
[23:03] <ShorTie> steve_rox, just throw another log on the fire
[23:03] <steve_rox> i have no fire
[23:03] <x0077BE> Thanks shiftplusone
[23:05] <ShorTie> whelp, there is your heating solution thingy, lol.
[23:05] <steve_rox> set something on fire?
[23:06] <ShorTie> i guess
[23:06] <steve_rox> maybe in a bit
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[23:11] <shiftplusone> ahm... 99% sure that's spam, but could someone double check http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=62195
[23:12] <shiftplusone> and now I am not sure at all and am terribly confused.
[23:13] <sney> it's setting off most of my spam alarms
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[23:13] <shiftplusone> same, but the guy has 4 legitimate posts and doesn't seem like a spammy person
[23:13] <somenewguy> it smells spammy but the link actually even looks legit...
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[23:13] <somenewguy> I think let it ride, probably just and older hippy
[23:13] <somenewguy> you have those in the uk, right?
[23:14] <sney> well, I went to the link and it reads like those blogs that scrape a bunch of other blogs and markov the content together
[23:14] <sney> and the WATCH ADS TO MAKE MONEY thing is a well trodden scam
[23:14] <Sonny_Jim> Fully spam
[23:14] <sney> I would say: post may not be spam, but blog certainly is
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[23:16] <somenewguy> reads like a free energy nut lol
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[23:16] <shiftplusone> think I'll wait for some user to report it as spam so that I have an excuse when I get the "why did you delete my post" PM.
[23:17] <somenewguy> haha, do not envy your job man
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[23:17] <shiftplusone> Lol, I think you're meant to get paid for jobs =P
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[23:19] <Stormer97> hello! My Pi wont connect over ethernet. It worked previously (yesterday) though. I have checked my network hardware and cables (everything is plugged in, light on switch is on). I have tried booting the pi to commandline, and to openbox, which made no differnce. I am running the latest release of raspbian (2013-09-25-wheezy). I also tried two different ethernet cables. Any ideas?
[23:19] <somenewguy> *responsobility
[23:19] * linuxstb reports that post as spam to help out shiftplusone
[23:19] <Stormer97> oh, also, demsg says the link is up as the last message
[23:20] <Sonny_Jim> Stormer97: What does ifconfig say?
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[23:20] <Stormer97> standby...
[23:20] <shiftplusone> linuxstb, well that's just cheating D=
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[23:23] <Sonny_Jim> Hmm, "The Light on switch on"
[23:24] <Stormer97> http://imgur.com/Sx3qeoh
[23:24] <Sonny_Jim> lol
[23:24] <Sonny_Jim> Is this what this world has become
[23:24] <Stormer97> that is the light on the ethernet switche
[23:24] <Stormer97> *switch
[23:25] <Sonny_Jim> You could of just said "What am I supposed to be looking for" but kudos for finding your own solution
[23:25] <Sonny_Jim> What is the Pi network cable connected to?
[23:25] <ShorTie> ifconfig is nice to see, but /etc/network/interfaces is what defines everything
[23:25] <Stormer97> router -> 8-port gigabit switch -> pi
[23:26] <Sonny_Jim> ShorTie: Just wanted to see if it had an IP address if any
[23:26] <ShorTie> yup, none there
[23:26] <Stormer97> the interfaces is whatever the default is, I havent changed it
[23:26] <Sonny_Jim> The link light on the switch is on?
[23:26] <Stormer97> aye
[23:26] <Sonny_Jim> Including the one to the router?
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[23:26] <Stormer97> and im assuming the pi link light is on, as there is an LED that turns off when I unplug the cable
[23:27] <Sonny_Jim> Does this switch work otherwise? ie you can plug a laptop into it and get internet?
[23:27] <Stormer97> I beleive the router to be functioning correctly.. let me boot my other machine running off the switch to double check
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[23:27] <Stormer97> I also have a BBB (headless) and a couple of desktops running of this switch, which are normally left off
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[23:28] <ShorTie> if everything is defualt, it seems to me you lost your dhcp server
[23:28] <Sonny_Jim> A BBB?
[23:28] <Stormer97> beaglebon black
[23:28] <Stormer97> *beaglebone
[23:28] <Stormer97> hmmm, when I booted my freeBSD machine, it fails DHCP
[23:28] <Stormer97> this is worrying
[23:28] <Sonny_Jim> Bingo
[23:29] <Stormer97> let me check the router<->switch connection
[23:29] * Sonny_Jim gives ShorTie a cookie
[23:29] * shiftplusone steals cookie
[23:29] <Stormer97> huh
[23:29] * ShorTie bopps shiftplusone on head and gets cookie back
[23:30] <Stormer97> it might help if the router was connected to the switch
[23:30] <shiftplusone> =(
[23:30] <Sonny_Jim> Sure would
[23:30] <Sonny_Jim> Cookies for everyone
[23:31] <Sonny_Jim> Although I called it
[23:31] <Sonny_Jim> 22:26 < Sonny_Jim> Including the one to the router?
[23:31] <Stormer97> I was panicking because I just had a NIC fail on my last week
[23:31] <ShorTie> 2 cookie for you then
[23:31] <Sonny_Jim> nom nom nom
[23:31] <Stormer97> spent like 6 hours on the linux IRC troubleshooting
[23:31] <Sonny_Jim> Supermicro motherboard?
[23:32] <Stormer97> I dunno, its an old dell workstation I bought second hand
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[23:33] <Stormer97> I dont recall the hardwre configuration, but its probably 2008, or older
[23:34] <Stormer97> well, thanks for the cookies gues... if not for you I probably wouldent have noticed the cable until after reading a few dozen man pages, and reimaging the sdcard a dozen times
[23:34] <Stormer97> *guys
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[23:36] <Koopz> ... okay i've got Raspbian now... can't get to the login after rebooting... i'm a genius...
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[23:37] <Sonny_Jim> First rule of troubleshooting, pick the simple and easiest to check solution first and work backwards
[23:37] <Stormer97> well, I checked the switch-pi connection 4 times
[23:37] <Sonny_Jim> And never trust what the other guy said
[23:37] <Stormer97> ^
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[23:38] <The_other_guy> who me ??
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[23:38] <shiftplusone> The_other_guy, doesn't work if you have to change your nick >_<
[23:39] <The_other_guy> oh bummer
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[23:39] <Koopz> but we appreciate your efforts to bring a smile to our faces...
[23:40] <Koopz> lets see... what could i've been doing wrong?... i only made changes in the raspi-config...
[23:41] <shiftplusone> What do you see?
[23:41] <Koopz> extended space, overclocked, changed locale, time and keyboard layout, changed password... and rebooted
[23:42] <Koopz> stuck on "Setting up X socket directories"
[23:42] <Koopz> BUG: Bad page map in process tput
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[23:42] <Koopz> including some error stuff...
[23:42] <shiftplusone> any chance your sd card is getting horribly mangled?
[23:43] <Koopz> i mean okay i've changed to "Turbo"-mode...
[23:43] <Koopz> but i didn't expect to get it corrupt that fast...
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[23:43] <somenewguy> ok cool I think I have it figured out now
[23:43] <shiftplusone> there is a correlation between overclocking and sd card corruption
[23:44] <Koopz> i'll just format the sd card and put that raspbian image on it again...
[23:44] <shiftplusone> How do you reboot? You don't just yank the power out, do you?
[23:44] <Koopz> nope
[23:44] <Koopz> sudo shutdown -r
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[23:44] <Koopz> sudo shutdown now -r*
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[23:46] <Sonny_Jim> I prefer reboot myself
[23:46] <Koopz> there's a reboot command?
[23:46] * Sonny_Jim nods
[23:46] <Koopz> �_o
[23:47] <somenewguy> wanna guess what it is?
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[23:48] <Koopz> sudo reboot -noreboot
[23:49] <Koopz> why is there a seperate command for that?...
[23:49] <shiftplusone> because some people prefer running halt or reboot rather than passing flags to shutdown
[23:50] <Koopz> but it's all the same?
[23:50] <shiftplusone> yeah
[23:50] <Koopz> ...weird..
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[23:54] <somenewguy> a open drain signal is perfect for triggering a input on the raspi, right?
[23:54] <somenewguy> since it doesn't care about voltage level
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[23:57] <shiftplusone> I am a bit of a noob, but wouldn't that be the same as having a floating input when you're not driving the mosfet?
[23:57] <somenewguy> I think so
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[23:57] <somenewguy> oh crud I was operating under the assumption raspi has internal pullups
[23:57] <shiftplusone> it does
[23:57] <somenewguy> ...does it?
[23:57] <somenewguy> woo hoo
[23:57] <shiftplusone> Just remember to enable it.
[23:57] <somenewguy> haha yeah
[23:58] <somenewguy> I spent 4 weeks with a "buggy soldering job" on a stepper controller
[23:58] <somenewguy> it would jitter randomly from time to time, but would be fine for dsays
[23:58] <somenewguy> turns out the direction pin would randomly change direction, even tho I had set the pin high on the microcontroller, the stepper driver had no idea becasue I had never set it as an output...
[23:59] <somenewguy> there is always that one extra step that ges you lol
[23:59] <shiftplusone> How does an open drain output act if it is shorted to ground or 3.3v? Would there be any current flow?
[23:59] <somenewguy> if shorted to 3.3 while active, there would be current flow
[23:59] <somenewguy> well there would be a short

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