#raspberrypi IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2013-12-03

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[0:03] <Sonny_Jim> I dunno, if it's doubled then I would be checking for an extra 0
[0:07] <PigFlu> :(
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[0:08] <Sonny_Jim> I mean, for example
[0:09] <laf_> Hey folks, what's the best distro at the moment for running a bear minimum X server?
[0:09] <Sonny_Jim> line 73 declares another variable called i
[0:09] <laf_> Just want to get something auto booting to run Firefox
[0:09] <Sonny_Jim> Are you expecting this to be the same value as i which is used in set_led_brightness?
[0:14] <Sonny_Jim> Because as it is, the value you are sending to that function is this:
[0:15] <Sonny_Jim> scanf("%d", &input);
[0:15] <Sonny_Jim> And that looks wrong to me on so many levels
[0:15] <Sonny_Jim> Why not just do:
[0:15] <Sonny_Jim> set_led_brightness (i);
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[0:22] <PigFlu> Sonny_Jim: ?
[0:22] <PigFlu> i want to read input and send to the function
[0:23] <Sonny_Jim> Well, you want to send the command line argument to that function, right?
[0:23] <PigFlu> i used to, but that i on line 73 is unused right now
[0:24] <PigFlu> its the input variable im sending
[0:24] <Sonny_Jim> So where does input get set?
[0:24] <PigFlu> well, i is actually passed to the task function
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[0:25] <PigFlu> scanf("%d", &input);
[0:25] <Joel> are their virtual machines of the common pi os's? as in I just want to do some software work for a friend who has a pi
[0:25] <Sonny_Jim> Joel: I did find one but it was based on an old image
[0:26] <PigFlu> this is so frustrating
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[0:26] <Sonny_Jim> Did you copy and paste a lot of this code?
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[0:26] <Sonny_Jim> Because I'm having a hard time following the flow
[0:26] <Joel> Sonny_Jim: thanks
[0:27] <PigFlu> Sonny_Jim: not really..
[0:27] <PigFlu> i copied the timespec_add_us function
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[0:28] <Sonny_Jim> Sorry dude, I've had a good look and I really can't work out why you are doing what you are doing. You'll have to ask someone else
[0:29] <PigFlu> >why you are doing what you are doing
[0:29] <PigFlu> lmao
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[0:29] <PigFlu> Sonny_Jim: my goal is control 100 leds
[0:29] <PigFlu> and be able to dim them
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[0:29] <Sonny_Jim> I meant in terms of the code you've written
[0:29] <PigFlu> is it bad?
[0:30] <Sonny_Jim> It just doesn't make any sense
[0:30] <Sonny_Jim> No
[0:30] <Sonny_Jim> Bad variable names, weird program flow
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[0:30] <Sonny_Jim> I mean, instead of using threads, why not just have one function that controls 100 LEDs?
[0:30] <PigFlu> :X
[0:31] <PigFlu> how would that work
[0:31] <Sonny_Jim> Well
[0:31] <Sonny_Jim> Use a bitmask
[0:31] <Sonny_Jim> Otherwise you are going to have 100 threads
[0:31] <PigFlu> no
[0:32] <Joel> link to code in question?
[0:32] <Joel> I'm curious now :)
[0:32] <Sonny_Jim> http://ideone.com/TxmfwC
[0:32] <Joel> keeping 100 threads in sync timing wise O.o
[0:32] <PigFlu> im not having 100 threads
[0:32] <Sonny_Jim> I know, I just realised that
[0:32] <Sonny_Jim> But like I said, I'm having a really hard time trying to figure out why you've done what you've done
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[0:33] <PigFlu> ok let me try to explain
[0:33] <PigFlu> i obviously cant have 100 pwm pins
[0:33] <Joel> I'm overwhelmed by the comments in the code.
[0:33] <PigFlu> how so :/
[0:33] <Sonny_Jim> I believe that was supposed to be sarcastic
[0:33] <PigFlu> :(
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[0:34] <PigFlu> the only thing thats commented is the function i copied.. lol
[0:34] <PigFlu> anyway, i cant have 100 pwm pins
[0:34] <Sonny_Jim> You could
[0:34] <Sonny_Jim> Well, not without extra hardware
[0:34] <PigFlu> so i thought i'd daisy-chain 13 shift registers with 8 outputs each
[0:34] <Sonny_Jim> Ah there we go
[0:35] <Joel> when sharing code online you should always remove commented out code, and you should comment the F out of what you're doing.
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[0:35] <PigFlu> yea sorry
[0:35] <PigFlu> so, at 100 times per second, ill send out a bitmask to these shift registers, right?
[0:35] <PigFlu> the bitmask is 100 bits long (one bit per lead)
[0:36] <PigFlu> in other words, the signal controlling the leds will be at 10 kHz
[0:36] <PigFlu> (im guessing this should be fine)
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[0:37] <Sonny_Jim> Do you have an arduino?
[0:37] <PigFlu> uh, yea, why?
[0:37] <Sonny_Jim> You can tell by the way you code, apparently
[0:38] <PigFlu> im not taking that in a good way :(
[0:38] <PigFlu> ive used the arduino maybe once, wrote a hello world program
[0:38] * heathkid|2 is now known as heathkid
[0:39] <PigFlu> Joel: does it make any sense? i can try to reupload an edited version
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[0:41] <PigFlu> i might add that i also tried usleep, but its still the same
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[0:42] <ShorTie> add a few comments so peeps know what your doing might help on a edited version
[0:42] <Sonny_Jim> And decent variable names.....
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[1:11] <YellowGTO> Anyone around?
[1:11] * Benguin is now known as Benguin[ZzZ]
[1:11] <shiftplusone> I think so
[1:11] <YellowGTO> Im wondering what the hole size is on the Raspberry Pi cameras
[1:11] <YellowGTO> Like what size blots
[1:12] <ShorTie> i just happened to get 2 today
[1:12] <ShorTie> let me measure for ya
[1:12] <shiftplusone> I didn't even know they had mounting holes, nice.
[1:12] <YellowGTO> They are tiny, im guessing like 2mm or 3mm
[1:12] <shiftplusone> http://www.raspberrypi-spy.co.uk/2013/05/pi-camera-module-mechanical-dimensions/
[1:12] <YellowGTO> Im having trouble finding it
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[1:13] <YellowGTO> I don't see the hold size
[1:13] <YellowGTO> *hole
[1:13] <shiftplusone> >=/ ... nvrm , that doesn't seem to have the holes labeled
[1:13] <YellowGTO> :D
[1:13] <YellowGTO> The mounting holes will accept a 2mm machine screw according to various posts and photos I have seen.
[1:13] <ShorTie> well, i'm american so .082"
[1:13] <shiftplusone> "The mounting holes will accept a 2mm machine screw according to various posts and photos I have seen."
[1:13] <YellowGTO> Good enought for me thanks shiftplusone
[1:13] <shiftplusone> derp
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[1:13] * shiftplusone is a bit slow today
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[1:13] <YellowGTO> And thanks ShorTie
[1:14] <YellowGTO> Seems home depot doesn't carry this size
[1:14] <YellowGTO> Atleast near me :(
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[1:14] <ShorTie> mounting pattern .836x.500
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[1:14] <ozzzy> they don't carry M2 screws?
[1:15] <YellowGTO> Yeah it seems M2 needs to be spcial ordered :(
[1:15] <ShorTie> 2-56 should fit
[1:15] <ozzzy> they're pretty small
[1:15] <ozzzy> the thread is different
[1:15] <ShorTie> might need hobby shop
[1:15] <ShorTie> hobbyshop would have m2 i believe
[1:16] <ozzzy> m2 are generally .4mm pitch which would be 63.5 tpi
[1:16] <ShorTie> they should have both
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[1:18] <ShorTie> which is close to 56
[1:18] <YellowGTO> There isn't many hobbyshops here unfortunately
[1:18] <YellowGTO> There is a model train shop
[1:18] <YellowGTO> I wonder if they would have it
[1:18] <ozzzy> www.metricscrews.us
[1:18] <ShorTie> try there
[1:19] <shiftplusone> Buy yourself a train set and call it a day, I guess.
[1:19] <ozzzy> YellowGTO: perhaps if the trains are built somewhere other than the US
[1:19] <YellowGTO> Yeah
[1:20] <ShorTie> got an ace hardware aroung you ??
[1:20] <ShorTie> around*
[1:20] <YellowGTO> I think so
[1:21] <YellowGTO> I sure do
[1:21] <ShorTie> they normally got a good selection in those metal drawers
[1:21] <ShorTie> so either 2-56 or m2 should fit thru
[1:22] <YellowGTO> Maybe ill take a trip
[1:22] <YellowGTO> I do have some of that plastic that melts in boiling wanter
[1:23] <YellowGTO> Maybe ill try that
[1:23] <YellowGTO> Thanks for all the help guys
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[1:23] <ShorTie> you trying to just hold the camera on something ??
[1:24] <YellowGTO> Right now I have it taped
[1:24] <YellowGTO> LoL
[1:24] <ShorTie> hot glue gun would work nicely
[1:24] <YellowGTO> Its works but will never work for sitting outside forever
[1:24] <YellowGTO> (In a housing of course)
[1:25] <ShorTie> nuts & bolts would be the only forever
[1:25] <YellowGTO> I guess ill try to shape this plastic as a clip holder for now
[1:26] <YellowGTO> Then drive some screws through it
[1:26] <YellowGTO> http://www.amazon.com/InstaMorph-Moldable-Plastic-12-oz/dp/B003QKLJKQ
[1:29] <SpeedEvil> YellowGTO: Hotmelt works just fine outside.
[1:31] <YellowGTO> Is that the plastic stuff?
[1:31] <ShorTie> no, it's more rubbery
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[1:32] <YellowGTO> oh
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[1:35] <ShorTie> this type thing http://www.walmart.com/ip/Dual-Temp-Mini-Glue-Gun-Kit-Red/24692959
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[1:38] <YellowGTO> Oh I have a gluegun
[1:38] <YellowGTO> Just worried about never be able to move it once I glue it down
[1:38] <YellowGTO> Still in prototyping stage
[1:39] * hakr is now known as h[a]kr
[1:39] <ShorTie> it's called tacking
[1:39] <ShorTie> just enough to hold it till it is right
[1:39] <ShorTie> then glue it down
[1:41] <YellowGTO> Hmm maybe I will try that
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[2:10] <YellowGTO> Wow
[2:10] <YellowGTO> Worked so much better then I thought
[2:10] <YellowGTO> LoL
[2:11] <YellowGTO> https://www.dropbox.com/s/6d2fcj56jqrnqym/20131202_201013.jpg
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[2:30] <shiftplusone> YellowGTO, nice... Like an art installation! =P
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[2:59] <YellowGTO> lol shift :)
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[4:50] <aural> Does anyone know of a least expensive usb 802.11/b/g/n wifi adapter supporting at least 300Mbps transfer rate (instead of 150) that is fairly reliable/dependable with adequate linux support/raspberry pi compatibility? Perhaps something from monoprice.com, dx.com, or other retailer?
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[4:51] <aural> for us country. I see Jusii linked https://www.modmypi.com/wireless-usb-1n-nano-adaptor-802.11N-wifi-dongle?filter_name=wifi earlier.
[4:51] <delugeofspam> aural why aren't you checking the sources you listed?
[4:51] <delugeofspam> http://www.monoprice.com/Product?c_id=105&cp_id=10501&cs_id=1050109&p_id=8075&seq=1&format=2&utm_expid=58369800-11.KFcpHWqASSutMqNPOqaJVg.0&utm_referrer=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.monoprice.com%2FSearch%3Fkeyword%3Dwifi
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[4:52] <aural> and I see suggestion that it's best to attach wifi adapter to a powered usb hub.
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[4:52] <delugeofspam> it's not an ultramini but it's a cheap 2T2R wifi dongle
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[4:53] <delugeofspam> I am currently powering the monoprice ultramini 150MBps off just the pi.
[4:53] <delugeofspam> (in addition to a bluetooth dongle!)
[4:53] <delugeofspam> but usually when I say that people tell me that i'm some sort of wizard, so don't count on being able to do that yourself
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[4:54] <aural> delugeofspam: I did check them, and read reviews, but was not confident that they were too reliable.
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[4:54] <aural> but I suppose i can't be greedy.
[4:55] <aural> generally quality comes at a price
[4:56] * plugwash is somewhat skeptical over whether a physically small wifi dongle can really use mimo effectively
[4:56] <plugwash> laptop integrated wifi has a massive advantage because they can hide large and well seperated antennas in the back of the screen
[4:57] <aural> plugwash: For reliably connectivity/transfer speed, what wifi adapter would you recommend?
[4:57] <plugwash> dunno, I tend to avoid wifi myself
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[4:58] <aural> site:monoprice.com mimo offers a few results
[4:58] <delugeofspam> aural: i have been using both of the 1T1R adapters on monoprice on varying devices for several years
[4:58] <aural> though, even the product linked by delugeofspam does as wel
[4:58] <aural> ah, cool, that is reassuring
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[4:59] <delugeofspam> i've had the bigger ones for ~2 years, they do 150MBps just fine and have not had so much as a hiccup being daily drivers for two PCs used primarily for web browsing and streaming video
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[5:00] <delugeofspam> the ultramini 1T1Rs that i own are on my raspberry pis (which might very well be pi #2,000,000-#2,000,003) and have been likewise reliable, but for under a month
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[5:01] <delugeofspam> i don't know what chipset the 2T2R or the larger 1T1R use, but the ultramini 1T1R uses 8192cu which is supported by many of the pi kernels going around.
[5:02] * delugeofspam has been running them on OpenELEC, streaming 1080p/DTS 5.1
[5:04] <delugeofspam> And no, I am not now nor have I ever been employed by monoprice.com or realtek ;)
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[5:08] <da1ly> Hey there! (Help is greatly appreciated in advanced.) I'm wanting to make my Pi completely portable, to be a portable gaming system. I have this screen in mind. (http://www.amazon.com/Monitor-Support-Resolution-Automobile-Rear-view/dp/B006MPRFJQ/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1386042391&sr=8-2&keywords=raspberry+pi+screen) I was wondering if it were possible to power it using this portable power
[5:08] <da1ly> supply. (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005NGKR54/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A294P4X9EWVXLJ)
[5:12] <delugeofspam> Yes.
[5:13] <delugeofspam> Can't really give you an idea of how long it'll last or how you could monitor how much power it has left in it, but a 5V 2A usb port will power a pi handily.
[5:13] <da1ly> Thanks! So if the power input for the screen is 2.1mm, is it best to find a USB to 2.1mm or what do you suggest?
[5:14] <da1ly> I've been trying to wrap my mind around the whole thing, really been messing with me.
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[5:15] <aural> have you ever been employed on earth planet and perhaps have a bias towards any products manufactured on that planet as opposed to any other planet? how about the related universe vs any other universe?
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[5:17] <delugeofspam> da1ly: it looks like the battery should come with a tip capable of plugging into that LCD
[5:17] <delugeofspam> i would be more worried about how much power the LCD is going to pull than the pi, by far, though
[5:17] <delugeofspam> something tells me that screen is going to slaughter your battery life
[5:18] <delugeofspam> aural: cheese is good.
[5:18] <da1ly> People say in the comments that it can be reduced down to 5V from 12V. What would be the easiest way to do so with that battery?
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[5:19] <delugeofspam> thaaat's a question for somebody else :)
[5:20] <delugeofspam> in fact, it looks like the guy talking about 5V goes into some detail
[5:20] <da1ly> I'll read into it, thanks. :)
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[5:21] <da1ly> Say I wasn't to reduce the voltage (which I probably will), why do you worry for the battery capacity?
[5:23] <delugeofspam> It's a sizeable battery, don't get me wrong... I just haven't kept track of how much success people have making these things portable
[5:24] <da1ly> Yeah, I understand.
[5:26] * delugeofspam guesses that 10Ah should be enough for a .5A pi and a .5A LCD for a while
[5:26] <delugeofspam> how do you plan to handle sound?
[5:28] * delugeofspam idles for a bit, but is curious. Keep us posted on your project.
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[5:31] <da1ly> delugeofspam: I hadn't really put too much thought into it honestly. The whole portable battery and screen thing had me stopped in my tracks.
[5:31] <da1ly> Probably just plug headphones into the audio jack.
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[6:29] <VlperX> are there any good GPS devices for the Pi?
[6:31] <aural> I am new to raspberry pi (without owning one yet), but maybe http://www.adafruit.com/products/1272 ?
[6:31] <mike_t> http://ava.upuaut.net/store/index.php?route=product/product&path=59_60&product_id=95
[6:32] <mike_t> or any with CMOS UART
[6:33] <mike_t> or USB :)
[6:33] <aural> I haven't used ebay in nearly a decade, but if I can pay by credit card, I may as well. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Raspberry-Pi-Starter-Kit-Pro-/181202056476?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2a307bf51c looks interesting
[6:34] <Jusii> well that's some odd wires
[6:34] <aural> Jusii: re: me?
[6:35] <Jusii> yup
[6:35] <aural> are you able to explain?
[6:36] <Jusii> sellers name and there's plenty of stuff
[6:36] <aural> ah :)
[6:37] <aural> glancing at the picture, it kinda seems perhaps a bit much, especially for my intention of it as a gift for someone 19yo who doesn't understand computers so well
[6:37] <aural> but maybe it may be helpful for learning hardware and programming
[6:37] <aural> with guidance
[6:38] <shiftplusone> aural, mind if I PM you?
[6:38] <aural> shiftplusone: you are welcome to
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[6:43] <steve_rox> how amuseing i was able to run the router on 12v lead acid
[6:43] <steve_rox> pitty it made my wifi drop
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[8:14] <Mrgoose> hello
[8:15] <Mrgoose> any of you do any work with NRF24 module?
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[8:46] <aural> ah, it seems it is possible to daisy chain breadboards: http://electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/85599/voltage-is-reduced-across-chained-breadboards
[8:47] <shiftplusone> aural, breadboards are not active in any way. Think of it as just a bunch of wires.
[8:47] <aural> right
[8:47] <shiftplusone> (naturally, you can connect wires together)
[8:47] <shiftplusone> but that's not what people normally call daisy chaining
[8:47] <aural> mm
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[9:04] <aural> A question comparing http://www.oddwires.com/mma7361-accelerometer-sensor-module/ to http://www.adafruit.com/products/1120 - The product at adafruit differs a bit hardware-wise from the oddwires.com one as it comes with eight pins and it appears the module has holes for the pins, whereas the one from oddwires.com does not have holes. How would I connect the module from oddwires.com? Would I have to purchase pins separately?
[9:06] <shiftplusone> aural, do you have a soldering iron?
[9:06] <ShorTie> can't just solder wires to the solder dots ?
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[9:06] <aural> At the moment I do not, but when I can afford one, I shall get one.
[9:06] <shiftplusone> ShorTie, that's not going to last long.
[9:07] <shiftplusone> in either case, oddwires or adafruit, you will have to solder
[9:07] <aural> ah, I see
[9:08] <aural> I thought the adafruit one did not require soldering
[9:08] <shiftplusone> My internet is slow right now, so I can't check the oddwires one fully though
[9:08] <shiftplusone> Their customer service is good, so you could probably ask for an assembled one.
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[9:11] <aural> And if I want to connect that accelerometer to the raspberry pi, I can do so (nonpermanently) attaching it to a breadboard, right?
[9:12] <shiftplusone> exactly
[9:12] <aural> cool
[9:12] <aural> s/cool/awesome/
[9:13] <shiftplusone> that's why breadboards are awesome. You can often put together a complete circuit without soldering and then re-use the components for something else as quickly.
[9:13] <shiftplusone> (But there are drawbacks too)
[9:13] <aural> mm, which drawbacks?
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[9:15] <shiftplusone> From simple things like having spaghetti of wires and accidentally yanking one out with no hope of putting it where it belongs without redoing the whole thing, so more complicated things like parasitic capacitance causing issues with high speed interfaces.
[9:16] <aural> mm
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[13:44] <Sonny_Jim> Anyone in here messed around with OpenCV?
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[13:54] <gordonDrogon> a friend of mine locall has - on the Pi.
[13:54] <gordonDrogon> I've not.
[13:54] <gordonDrogon> it seemed to take about 1 second per frame to do the processing...
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[13:58] <Sonny_Jim> Meh
[13:58] <Sonny_Jim> Seems it doesn't like the eyetoy camera
[13:58] <Sonny_Jim> Invalid JPEG file structure: SOS before SOF
[13:59] <gordonDrogon> I've no idea what my friend is using - it's a USB camera though.
[13:59] <gordonDrogon> He uses it to get his little robot to follow a ball - slowly.
[14:02] <Sonny_Jim> It's weird as I'm sure it worked before
[14:02] <Sonny_Jim> But this was nearly a year ago
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[14:08] <Sonny_Jim> Hmm
[14:08] <Sonny_Jim> http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?p=444948#p444948
[14:08] <Sonny_Jim> Seems like a kernel update broke the eyetoy driver :-(
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[14:18] <Sonny_Jim> Hurrupmh
[14:18] <Sonny_Jim> Call me an old fuddy duddy, but rpi-update shouldn't update itself independantly of apt-get
[14:18] <Sonny_Jim> You install it via apt-get install rpi-update and the first thing it does is update itself from github
[14:19] * ozzzy 's pi works perfectly for what he bought it for.... so I don't run updates on it
[14:19] <Phosie> Last time i updated i broke raspBMC
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[14:20] <Sonny_Jim> Really, it shouldn't ever update itself and let the proper package manager do it
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[14:23] <ShorTie> i've found in the past with linux, if everything is workin fine, don't update it, lol.
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[14:23] <gyeben> hi
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[14:25] <Sonny_Jim> ShorTie: I didn't, this was a new install
[14:25] <Sonny_Jim> Well, it was a new install 6 months ago and I haven't updated it since then
[14:26] <Sonny_Jim> Basically between Jan 4 and now there has been an update that's borked it and looking at the commit log, it could've been any number of things
[14:26] * Sonny_Jim goes to see if he has another webcam kicking around
[14:27] <Sonny_Jim> The Eyetoy camera is fairly erm, not good, but it's cheap. Picked it up for 50p
[14:28] <Phosie> I use an eyetoy too, couldn't get it working with arch though
[14:28] <Sonny_Jim> Does it work with your Raspbian?
[14:28] <Sonny_Jim> If so, could you paste the output of uname -a?
[14:29] <Phosie> It does, i don't have arch on my card now anyway
[14:29] <Phosie> It would work for a second and then motion would do the "no input on video device" or whatever the message was
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[15:05] <Sonny_Jim> Yup, kernel update definitely broke it
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[15:21] <Sonny_Jim> Gaaaah
[15:21] <Sonny_Jim> Rolled back to an earlier kernel with rpi-update, rebooted, now my Pi refuses to boot and just flashes the power LED
[15:21] <Sonny_Jim> And I can't find my SD reader to fix it
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[15:21] <Sonny_Jim> A pox on thee, rpi-update coders!
[15:22] <zer0her0> doh!
[15:22] <ShorTie> better to roll back to a image from that time
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[15:22] <clever> Sonny_Jim: did you try the rescue mode?
[15:22] <Sonny_Jim> Well, that's what I *was* doing, until it refused to boot and my USB SD reader went walkies
[15:22] <ShorTie> doing it your way you will never know where you are, what is updated and what is not
[15:23] <Sonny_Jim> It's headless, so my options are limited
[15:23] <Sonny_Jim> *My* way?
[15:23] * Sonny_Jim goes off to smoke
[15:23] <clever> Sonny_Jim: then unplug it and move it to a tv!
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[15:23] <clever> Sonny_Jim: http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=12007
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[15:45] <Sonny_Jim> Hmm, where can I get a copy of start.elf without having to download the whole lot?
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[15:52] <Sonny_Jim> clever: Plugged it into a TV, nothing. Copied over kernel_emergency.img to kernel.img, nothing.
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[15:53] <Sonny_Jim> Just 4 green flashes
[15:53] <clever> Sonny_Jim: bootcode.bin and start.elf look right?
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[15:55] <Sonny_Jim> I think I know what it is
[15:55] <Sonny_Jim> Kernels before a particular date need loader.bin
[15:55] <Sonny_Jim> rpi-update helpfully didn't think about that before changing the kernel
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[15:59] <w3gi> hallo, i try to get my model b working but i have no chance...
[15:59] <w3gi> i download the archlinux img. and then i run:
[16:00] <w3gi> dd bs=4M if=/home/markus/Pi_GPIO/archlinux-hf-2013-07-22.img of=/dev/sde
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[16:02] <w3gi> when i boot the RPi i just see a black screen over hdmo :(
[16:02] <w3gi> hdmi
[16:03] <Sonny_Jim> Now this is just plain weird
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[16:03] <Sonny_Jim> http://elinux.org/R-Pi_Troubleshooting#Green_LED_blinks_in_a_specific_pattern
[16:03] <Sonny_Jim> I have the latest kernel/firmwares from here:
[16:03] <Sonny_Jim> https://github.com/Hexxeh/rpi-firmware
[16:04] <Sonny_Jim> So, it's a post Oct 2012 kernel.img, which according to the elinux doc, 4 green flashes means "start.elf" not launched
[16:05] <Sonny_Jim> I've copied across a new start.elf and it's still giving me 4 flashes
[16:05] <w3gi> the green light is lighting solid
[16:06] <w3gi> i dont even get the colored splash-screen :(
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[16:06] <Phosie> Checked config.txt?
[16:06] <Phosie> I get no display with the default
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[16:09] <PigFlu> Sonny_Jim: i found the problem
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[16:12] <Sonny_Jim> Does /boot need to be formatted FAT or FAT32?
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[16:14] <Sonny_Jim> PigFlu: Cool beans, what was it?
[16:15] <Sonny_Jim> And also, yay, got the smegger working. Had to reformat the /boot partition
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[16:15] <PigFlu> i think i uploaded the wrong code or something, but i realized i defined period_us twice, and the global one was always 5000 us
[16:16] <PigFlu> even thought the frequency was 100 Hz
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[16:22] <ryny24> Anyone familiar with the SSR-40DA? I'm not the best with electronics but this seems fairly straight forward. No matter what I get AC between 1 and 2. I can, however, turn the LED on the SSR-40DA on/off with the Raspberry.
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[16:32] <SpeedEvil> ryny24: Solid state relays can be really easy to use, yes
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[16:32] <SpeedEvil> They're basically usually simply a switch controlled by a LED.
[16:33] <SpeedEvil> Check the trigger current is under what the Pi can safely output - and remember that teh LED probbly has a forward voltage of 0.9V or so
[16:33] <SpeedEvil> But other than that, it's just like lighting any other LED
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[17:07] <ryny24> SpeedEvil: I believe it's bad. Even with nothing connected to the low side, I can get 110V through the high side.
[17:07] <ryny24> Ordering another one, not from eBay this time. my bad.
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[17:07] <SpeedEvil> Define 'through'
[17:08] <SpeedEvil> Most SSRs will have a small degree of leakage - a few hundred microamps or so, perhaps.
[17:08] <SpeedEvil> This will dissapear if a load is connected.
[17:08] <ryny24> Hot from 100 WALL on to pin 1. pin 2 to volt meter. ground from volt meter to wall
[17:09] <ryny24> when I connected the air conditioner through it, it did not turn off even with the PI disconnected from 3-4
[17:09] <ryny24> (the compressor)
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[17:26] <SpeedEvil> Inductive loads are wierd.
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[17:28] <SpeedEvil> You need a snubber.
[17:29] <SpeedEvil> http://www.digikey.com/product-search/en/integrated-circuits-ics/pmic-voltage-regulators-special-purpose/2556693?k=multiphase
[17:29] <SpeedEvil> err
[17:29] <SpeedEvil> http://www.fairchildsemi.com/an/AN/AN-3003.pdf
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[17:47] <Sonny_Jim> Phew
[17:47] <Sonny_Jim> I only have 3 more commits to check to find out which one borked the Eyetoy camera
[17:48] <Sonny_Jim> This one it's broken:
[17:48] <Sonny_Jim> https://github.com/Hexxeh/rpi-firmware/commit/fcc46f1c9aad95e28fd254f5153764fb47d68cf7
[17:48] <Sonny_Jim> This one works:
[17:48] <Sonny_Jim> https://github.com/Hexxeh/rpi-firmware/commit/5ea0f44b673eaa52c578fcd6480495f19cd53d97
[17:49] <Sonny_Jim> The main list is here:
[17:49] <Sonny_Jim> https://github.com/Hexxeh/rpi-firmware/commits/master?page=2
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[18:07] <Sonny_Jim> nailed it, it's this one:
[18:07] <Sonny_Jim> https://github.com/Hexxeh/rpi-firmware/commit/44dc4f093c9ec075e6704965665311a94f6371aa
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[18:08] <johnc-> probably means something in the firmware changed and the driver needs to be recompiled against the newer firmware
[18:09] <johnc-> same thing happens with omxplayer I've noticed
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[18:11] <Sonny_Jim> Who do I inform?
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[18:19] <Sonny_Jim> At least I can start messing around with OpenCV now
[18:19] <zer0her0> whatcha doing w/ OpenCV?
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[18:21] <Sonny_Jim> I dunno yet
[18:21] <Sonny_Jim> Start off with face recognition and go from there
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[18:25] <Kane> hello
[18:28] <clever> Sonny_Jim: there is some face detection in the gpu already
[18:29] <clever> Sonny_Jim: http://ext.earthtools.ca/firmware/documentation/ilcomponents/prop.html#OMX_IndexConfigCommonFaceDetectionControl
[18:30] <Sonny_Jim> That's what I was hoping :-)
[18:31] <Sonny_Jim> Although I've just realised I have no idea how to find that commit that broke the camera in the main branch
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[18:38] <Sonny_Jim> Ideally, yeah I should setup a kernel compile and figure it out
[18:38] <Sonny_Jim> But I'm going to prod OpenCV for a bit to see if anything sticks
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[18:47] <Sonny_Jim> Hmm, doesn't look like the magic mirror guy uses the GPU:
[18:47] <Sonny_Jim> http://raufast.org/download/faceReco.cpp
[18:47] <Sonny_Jim> Unless it's tucked away in one of the opencv libs
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[18:53] <clever> Sonny_Jim: i dont even see the pi video code in there
[18:53] <clever> so opencv has probly been patches to have proper support for the camera
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[18:55] <Sonny_Jim> I think I pasted the wrong code
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[18:55] <Sonny_Jim> This looks like the Pi specific one:
[18:55] <Sonny_Jim> http://raufast.org/download/camcv_vid1.cpp
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[18:58] <clever> i might be able to use this code in my ffmpeg stuff
[18:59] <clever> hmmm or not, its mmal, not bare omx
[18:59] <clever> i believe mmal is a wrapper arround the omx layer, to simplify using the camera module
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[19:00] <clever> but you can use raw omx and the docs i linked to do things like plumbing the camera directly to the screen
[19:00] <clever> with zero cpu usage in arm
[19:00] <Sonny_Jim> It's not the PiCam
[19:00] <Sonny_Jim> It's an old PS2 Eyetoy
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[19:00] <linuxstb> clever: My understanding is that mmal and openmax are equivalent - higher-level APIs on top of the
[19:01] <linuxstb> same GPU functionality.
[19:01] <Sonny_Jim> My guess is that I'll be able to squirt the image data into the GPU, it just won't be as elegant as a PiCam
[19:01] <Sonny_Jim> But I just compiled my first C++ only 20 minutes ago, so I'll see how I go
[19:02] <clever> linuxstb: i should have a look at the mmal code and see what differs
[19:02] <clever> it may have hints on how to read yuv420 frames out of a component
[19:02] <clever> static MMAL_COMPONENT_T *create_camera_component(RASPIVID_STATE *state)
[19:03] <clever> status = mmal_component_create(MMAL_COMPONENT_DEFAULT_CAMERA, &camera);
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[19:04] <clever> ./interface/mmal/core/mmal_component.c:MMAL_STATUS_T mmal_component_create(const char *name,
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[19:05] <clever> linuxstb: hmmmm, no trade of omx style here, i think your right
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[19:09] <Sonny_Jim> I've got a *lot* of reading up to do
[19:09] * Sonny_Jim starts with http://docs.opencv.org/modules/contrib/doc/facerec/facerec_tutorial.html#face-recognition-with-opencv
[19:09] <johnc-> Sonny_Jim: it's a usb camera right? you should be able to grab a v4l stream from it or something and feed that to OMX to render on the screen
[19:10] <Sonny_Jim> Sure, it presents itself as a v4l2 device
[19:10] <Sonny_Jim> Although the quality is terrible, 640x480
[19:11] <clever> at 640x480, why bother omx
[19:11] <clever> you can likely memcpy that to a framebuffer at 30fps easily
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[19:11] <Sonny_Jim> Sure, I'm not exactly looking for high performance
[19:11] <Sonny_Jim> I'd just be happy if I manage to cobble something together that works ;-)
[19:12] <johnc-> heh, pi only really needs optimizing for high perf when you get to 720p/1080p
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[19:13] <clever> johnc-: and ive assigned myself the task of 1080p mkv playback in mplayer
[19:14] <johnc-> I've been turning omxplayer into a library and feeding it a custom stream
[19:14] <johnc-> it starts getting poor results at 720p
[19:15] <clever> johnc-: try running it thru operf
[19:15] <johnc-> clever: I've identified several points for optimization
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[19:15] <clever> like?
[19:16] <Amadiro> johnc-, are you not feeding data fast enough into OMX, perhaps?
[19:16] <johnc-> my code is handling a buffer of the stream, which means twice as many buffer copies as should be needed, my thread that reads the stream over the network can be optimized to async code
[19:17] <johnc-> Amadiro: actually, the way it works is OMX gets it's data from ffmpeg, ffmpeg gets it's data from my code using simple Read/Seek functions
[19:18] <Amadiro> johnc-, why's ffmpeg in there?
[19:18] <johnc-> it's how omxplayer reads frames from media files
[19:18] <Amadiro> Ah, interesting.
[19:19] <Amadiro> Guess it makes sense if you want to support many different kinds of containers
[19:19] <clever> the hello_video demo app, uses blocking mode functions to feed video data into the gpu
[19:19] <clever> so if you feed it too fast, the writer just blocks, and things self-regulate
[19:19] <clever> but that app doesnt do any demuxing or audio
[19:20] <johnc-> I also need to come up with a check to ensure that the decoding is happening off-cpu
[19:20] <johnc-> not sure how to confirm that
[19:20] <clever> i'm not sure omxplayer even supports on cpu decoding
[19:21] <johnc-> I suppose
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[19:23] <Amadiro> johnc-, if you feed the frames into OMX (be it through omxplayer or directly) it should happen on the GPU
[19:23] <Amadiro> but that is up to the OMX implementation
[19:23] <Amadiro> but since omxplayer also includes ffmpeg, it could also do some things on the CPU, who knows
[19:24] <johnc-> yeah, I'm not entirely sure where it's happening tbh, I think OMXReader is where the heavy lifting is occuring
[19:25] <johnc-> think I'll transfer some problem files to the sdcard and give it a try without the network stream
[19:25] <clever> johnc-: one min
[19:25] <johnc-> if it's still slow/jumpy then something is amiss
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[19:27] <clever> johnc-: COMXVideo::Decode
[19:27] <clever> line 850, memcpy(omx_buffer->pBuffer, demuxer_content, omx_buffer->nFilledLen);
[19:27] <clever> this is the key part for video, copying data into the arm side of a transfer buffer
[19:27] <clever> EmptyThisBuffer then tells the gpu to copy it over, and begin processing
[19:28] <clever> all buffers take up double the visible space, one copy in the arm and one copy in the gpu
[19:28] <clever> and EmptyThisBuffer will tell it to copy things over, once it returns you are free to modify the arm side
[19:28] <clever> while it does stuff with the gpu version of the same buffer
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[19:29] <johnc-> ah I should be hardware decoding then :) I'm using all the same classes that omxplayer does in command line mode
[19:29] <Amadiro> clever, doesn't look to me like hello_video uses a blocking call
[19:29] <Amadiro> it just calls OMX_EmptyThisBuffer() which sends a buffer to a component and then returns immediately
[19:30] <clever> Amadiro: its not clearly documented, but one of the il functions will just up and block
[19:30] <Amadiro> in 80K chunks
[19:30] <Amadiro> clever, which one?
[19:30] <clever> Amadiro: ilclient_get_input_buffer i believe
[19:30] <Amadiro> hm...
[19:30] <Sonny_Jim> Heh
[19:30] <Sonny_Jim> I have a strange idea
[19:30] <clever> johnc-: you could modify that function i pointed you to, to set a boolean that its using omx
[19:31] <clever> johnc-: and then just check for that in your own code
[19:31] <clever> ugly and simple
[19:31] <Sonny_Jim> I've got some hardware that interfaces with a SNES controller port and allows me to send controller inputs to a real SNES via GPIO
[19:31] <Sonny_Jim> What if I combined that with OpenCV :-)
[19:31] <clever> Sonny_Jim: make a neural network that learns how to play mario world
[19:31] <Sonny_Jim> Oh I was thinking much simpler
[19:32] <clever> all you need to do is give it a good stimulus when it wins a level, and bad stimulus when it dies
[19:32] <Sonny_Jim> There's a Sudoku game I think would be an easier target
[19:32] <clever> and then let it figure out the controls on its own
[19:32] <Sonny_Jim> But that's in the far, far future
[19:32] <Amadiro> Yeah, "@param block If non-zero, the function will block until a buffer is available."
[19:32] <clever> which reminds me, ive seen similar ideas done in lab expriements
[19:32] * Sonny_Jim goes back to reading OpenCV docs
[19:32] <clever> they took some brain cells from a rat, and stuck it in a petri dish
[19:33] <clever> then wired it up to a flight sim game on a computer
[19:33] <Sonny_Jim> Oh I think I heard about that, crazy
[19:33] <clever> and the brain learned how to fly the virtual plane
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[19:33] <johnc-> if anybody cares: https://github.com/JohnACarruthers/omxplayer/ <-- can compile to a library to use as an API for video playback
[19:33] <johnc-> it's not super fancy yet though
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[19:34] <clever> brb
[19:35] <clever> Amadiro: i remember now, it is clearly documented, but i didnt read the docs when i started using it, lol
[19:35] <clever> brb
[19:35] <Amadiro> yeah. Looks like hello_videos approach is somewhat stupid, at any rate, since it reads from file whenever a buffer becomes free
[19:36] <clever> there is also a read_media component, which does all demuxing in the gpu
[19:36] <Amadiro> so if you get some i/o lag, your video will lag, which you could easily prevent by reading ahead one buffer or two
[19:36] <clever> and reads the file for you
[19:36] <clever> Amadiro: do you know how to read yuv420 from the video decode?
[19:36] <Amadiro> nope
[19:36] <clever> kk
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[19:37] <johnc-> I guess I need an omx_set_opt/omx_get_opt for all the options omxplayer has on command line
[19:37] <johnc-> ugh
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[19:41] <clever> johnc-: i would modify it to accept arguments via a struct
[19:41] <clever> struct options { int fullscreen; }; for example
[19:41] <clever> then pass that into the main startup thing
[19:42] <johnc-> I'm going for a C-style API to be more compatible with my own intended use
[19:43] <johnc-> but all the arguments will be properties on the OMXPlayerApi struct so you could access them directly if you wanted
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[19:49] <clever> johnc-: ah, i was going for a simpler method that just guts out the argument parsing in main()
[19:49] <clever> replaces it with if (options->fullscren)
[19:50] <johnc-> clever: ah but the argument parsing just uses global variables
[19:50] <johnc-> it's quite... messy
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[19:50] <clever> just set those directly then!
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[19:52] <johnc-> OMXPlayerApi *omx_player = omx_create(...); omx_player->Options->AudioOutput = OMX_HDMI;
[19:52] <johnc-> is what I was thinking
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[19:53] <clever> that will only take effect after you call the right function
[19:53] <clever> something that checks it
[19:53] <clever> which i was thinking could just be omx_create itself
[19:53] <johnc-> well you're supposed to configure it all before you start playback
[19:53] <clever> yeah, once you add that rule, put the checks in the start function
[19:54] <zer0her0> clever, Sonny_Jim: yea i want to do some face detection stuff as well(sorry for late reply had to run to meetings.) thanks for all the links :)
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[19:55] <Sonny_Jim> I'm starting here:
[19:55] <Sonny_Jim> http://docs.opencv.org/doc/tutorials/introduction/display_image/display_image.html
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[19:56] <Sonny_Jim> Because right now I know 0.000001% C++
[19:56] <zer0her0> heh
[19:56] <johnc-> now to wait an hour for my test file to copy to the pi
[19:56] <johnc-> wheee
[19:56] <clever> ive already made a thermostat system in c++/c/java
[19:56] <johnc-> Sonny_Jim: I don't know much C/C++ nor do I care to, I write in C# mostly
[19:56] <zer0her0> yea my C++ is WAY rusty haven't touched it since CS classes, what...over a decade ago now :-/
[19:56] <clever> the c++ code uses qt to interface to an avr, cacti, and an android tablet, its currently on a desktop, but no reason it cant be on a pi
[19:57] <clever> the c code runs on the avr, monitors the temp in every room, and turns the furnace on/off
[19:57] <clever> the java code runs on my kindle, and lets me control the whole thing from any room
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[19:59] <zer0her0> clever: nice
[20:00] <clever> zer0her0: http://ext.earthtools.ca/export/temps_59.html
[20:01] <johnc-> clever: I'm writing a framework to do things like that
[20:01] <clever> right now, the avr is setup to keep a single sensor within a set min/max
[20:01] <clever> and the gpio to turn the heat on is hard-coded into it
[20:01] <johnc-> clever: it's modular, so what you did would be a heating/temperature module that can be access from mac/linux/windows/android/ios :)
[20:01] <clever> so its not very flexible, but if the desktop dies, the house wont freeze
[20:02] <clever> the avr reports the temps out serial every couple of seconds
[20:02] <clever> the c++ app acts as a serial<->tcp gateway
[20:02] <clever> cacti and android then use the gateway to control it
[20:03] <zer0her0> nice, i totally could've used this in my old place the upstairs rooms all seemed to vary wildly
[20:03] <johnc-> right now I'm working on a video module for it, using libomxplayer for it on pi, libvlc on anything else
[20:03] <zer0her0> what avr are you using? and how are they communicating?
[20:03] <clever> just a generic atmega
[20:04] <clever> i have a network of ds18b20's strung up all over the house
[20:04] <clever> and a single gpio on the avr drives the entire thing
[20:04] <clever> i wouldnt really trust the pi with something like that, more expensive to replace
[20:04] <zer0her0> oh wow
[20:05] <clever> static shock to the wire in any room and poof goes the pi, maybe
[20:05] <clever> the avr is cheaper to replace, and i know how sturdy it is
[20:05] <zer0her0> yea totally makes sense
[20:05] <clever> the avr is just wired to an ftdi, plugged into a usb port on a desktop
[20:06] <clever> but all the code on the desktop could be compiled against a pi with little effort
[20:06] <zer0her0> didn't think of just running wires for the thermal sensors
[20:06] <clever> its a bus protocol designed for that exact thing
[20:06] <zer0her0> yea i mean totally get it, just was over thinking it ;)
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[20:07] <clever> the furnace has some ~36vac control lines
[20:07] <clever> just short the 2 wires out and heat comes on
[20:07] <tdn> I have configured my pi as a CUPS print server. I can add printers from other computers in the network, but when I try to print it says: Unable to locate printer pi.local
[20:07] <clever> this or something smaller, and i can turn it on from a gpio, https://www.sparkfun.com/products/10636
[20:08] <tdn> Where does this .local domain come from? I have a name server on my network, and it should use that instead?
[20:08] <clever> tdn: is avahi enabled on both ends?
[20:08] <clever> .local uses multicast dns
[20:08] <tdn> clever, I think there is avahi on the pi, not on clients.
[20:08] <clever> which requires a special server on both ends
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[20:08] <johnc-> clever: I've been wanting to do something like that to replace my thermostat entirely
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[20:08] <tdn> clever, does CUPS require this?
[20:08] <clever> tdn: nope
[20:08] <clever> tdn: you can just set the clients to use the pi ip directly
[20:09] <clever> and/or configure your private dns server to handle the pi at any domain you want
[20:09] <clever> i made a .localnet for my house, and set it as the search zone
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[20:09] <tdn> clever, I already configured the dhcp and dns server to give the pi a name and static IP.
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[20:11] <clever> then you just need to give the cups clients that dns name
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[20:12] <clever> and my eevblog rulers have arrived!
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[20:17] <tdn> clever, hm.. Not sure how to do that.
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[20:18] <tdn> In KDE, when I configure the printer and see under Connection, it says: dnssd://HP%20LaserJet%201010%20%40%20pi._ipp._tcp.local/cups
[20:18] <clever> tdn: you do that when you add the shared printer to the clients
[20:18] <clever> yeah, thats KDE using avahi to auto-detect the printer
[20:18] <tdn> clever, it finds the printer automatically.
[20:18] <clever> thats the whole point of avahi
[20:18] <tdn> clever, ah. So then both ends do have avahi?
[20:18] <clever> but it sounds like you didnt finish setting it up
[20:18] <tdn> clever, why does it not work then?
[20:19] <knytt> has anyone had any experience with using arecord?
[20:19] <tdn> clever, it works form iphone and ipads though. But not currently KDE clients.
[20:19] <clever> let me figure out what it was again
[20:19] <clever> apple invented the mdns standard
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[20:19] <knytt> because whenever I use it, arecord gives me these intermittent messages about the buffer being "overrun" by however many milliseconds
[20:19] <clever> /etc/nsswitch.conf
[20:20] <clever> tdn: check this file on the clients, what is hosts set to?
[20:20] <tdn> hosts: files mdns4_minimal [NOTFOUND=return] dns mdns4
[20:20] <clever> that should be good
[20:20] <knytt> and I'm using two different microphones recording at the same time, so the recordings get out of sync
[20:20] <clever> tdn: what happens if you try to ping pi.local ?
[20:20] <tdn> hosts: files mdns4_minimal [NOTFOUND=return] dns mdns4
[20:20] <tdn> clever, actually the KDE client and the pi have the same nsswitch.conf
[20:21] <tdn> clever, unknown host
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[20:21] <clever> that file controls how the dns stuff works, so when you try to resolve pi.local it gets an ip via avahi
[20:21] <clever> but only if avahi is running on the local system
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[20:21] <clever> but kde is bypassing that and using avahi directly
[20:21] <clever> check to make sure avahi is running on the client
[20:21] <tdn> clever, how?
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[20:22] <tdn> clever, http://paste.yt/p2798.html <- this is ps faux | grep avahi
[20:22] <tdn> Seems to be runnign?
[20:22] <clever> yep
[20:22] <clever> avahi-browse -at
[20:22] <clever> and this?
[20:22] <tdn> zsh: command not found: avahi-browse
[20:23] <clever> on the kde box?
[20:23] <tdn> clever, yes
[20:24] <clever> it is an optional part, so its probly just not installed
[20:24] <clever> only other option is to bypass it, just tell kde to use the pi directly
[20:24] <clever> open this in your browser and find the url for the printer http://192.168.x.y:631
[20:24] <tdn> clever, installed it: http://paste.yt/p2799.html
[20:25] <clever> ahhhhh
[20:25] <clever> your pi is advertising itself over ipv6
[20:25] <clever> but your nsswitch is set to only work over ipv5
[20:25] <clever> hosts: files mdns_minimal [NOTFOUND=return] dns mdns
[20:25] <clever> 4
[20:25] <clever> change nssswitch to this
[20:25] <tdn> On client or pi?
[20:26] <clever> client
[20:26] <tdn> So just remove the 4's right?
[20:26] <clever> yep
[20:27] <tdn> clever, ping: unknown host pi.local
[20:27] <tdn> Did not help
[20:28] <clever> c2d ~ # ping pi2.local
[20:28] <clever> PING pi2.local (192.168.2.29) 56(84) bytes of data.
[20:28] <clever> 64 bytes from pi2.local (192.168.2.29): icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=58.4 ms
[20:28] <clever> hmm, not sure what else it could b
[20:28] <clever> e
[20:28] <clever> try avahi-browse -atr
[20:28] <Dagger2> `ping6 pi.local` maybe
[20:28] <Dagger2> although I'm surprised it doesn't just advertise all of its addresses...
[20:28] <clever> oh, and that
[20:28] <clever> Dagger2: yeah, my setup advertises on both, then distcc barfs trying to connect to an ipv6 addr
[20:29] <clever> i had to rebuild distcc without v6 support to make it work right
[20:30] <Dagger2> clever: I think there's some dumbness around avahi and link-local addresses (since you need to specify the interface when dealing with link-locals, and not all software supports doing that)
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[20:30] <tdn> ~ # ping6 pi.local [R2 J0 L:0.05 0.04 0.05 U:0+03:33 pts/9 181H]
[20:30] <tdn> connect: Invalid argument
[20:30] <Dagger2> dumbness which goes away if you just use public v6 space, of course :p
[20:30] <clever> tdn: avahi-browse -atr
[20:30] <tdn> clever, http://paste.yt/p2800.html
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[20:31] <Dagger2> tdn: `ping6 pi.local%wlan0`?
[20:31] <tdn> unknown host
[20:31] <clever> tdn: open this in your browser and find the url for the printer http://192.168.x.y:631
[20:32] <tdn> clever, I am there
[20:32] <Dagger2> `ping6 -I wlan0 pi.local` maybe?
[20:32] <clever> tdn: just take the url from the printers page and give that to kde
[20:32] <tdn> 64 bytes from pi.local: icmp_seq=2 ttl=64 time=230 ms :-D
[20:32] <tdn> Dagger2, then how to make that into a fix?
[20:32] <clever> tdn: is the kde box connected to several networks?
[20:32] <clever> ethernet and wifi?
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[20:33] <tdn> Only wifi
[20:33] <clever> and the ethernet is disabled?
[20:33] <tdn> But it has ethernet as well. But not currently connected.
[20:33] <tdn> clever, ethernet is unplugged.
[20:33] <clever> not sure why its messing up that much
[20:33] <tdn> clever, why?
[20:33] <clever> but i would just skip the ipv6 and avahi completely
[20:33] <clever> use the direct ip like i said above
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[20:33] <tdn> clever, ok.
[20:34] <tdn> clever, this one? usb://HP/LaserJet%201010?serial=00CNFF236047
[20:34] <clever> nope, it starts with http
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[20:35] <clever> http://192.168.2.14:631/printers/timsprinter
[20:35] <clever> something like this
[20:35] <Dagger2> tdn: pretty much what clever said, I was mainly asking about ping6 to see if it's even possible to get that bit to work
[20:35] <Dagger2> just typing out the IP is probably easier than dealing with avahi...
[20:35] <clever> yeah
[20:36] <clever> when it works, its great
[20:36] <clever> when it doesnt work, uh oh :P
[20:36] <clever> i also tried using avahi for my thermostat project i mentioned above
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[20:36] <clever> but my kindle is too old, doesnt have avahi in the os
[20:36] <clever> and my dads phone, any attempts to use avahi crash the whole os
[20:37] <tdn> clever, ahh!
[20:37] <tdn> https://10.0.0.52:631/printers/HP_LaserJet_1010 then?
[20:37] <clever> yep
[20:37] <clever> just add that as a printer
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[20:40] <tdn> Just added the above URL as Manual URI, printed test page --> Unsupported PErsonality: PCL
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[20:40] <tdn> Was written on the paper
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[20:42] <clever> the clients also need a copy of the ppd file
[20:42] <clever> you can also configure the clients at http://localhost:631/
[20:42] <hajmola> anyone have much experience with lirc? I have a mceusb transciever. Works like a charm on my Ubuntu desktop, but on raspberry pi i get "hardware does not support sending"
[20:42] <tdn> clever, huh? I select the HP driver during installation in KDE.
[20:43] <tdn> clever, the other clients (apple devices) can print just fine.
[20:43] <clever> http://localhost:631/admin is where you add printers
[20:43] <tdn> clever, can it be the https in the url? Should it be http instead?
[20:44] <clever> theres a simple way to find out
[20:44] <clever> http://h30499.www3.hp.com/t5/Printers-LaserJet/LaserJet-1012-Unsupported-Personality-PCL-error/td-p/2304075#.Up40ldJDv-4
[20:44] <clever> hmmm, those directions are windows based
[20:45] <clever> http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=c01895812&cc=us&dlc=en&lc=en&jumpid=reg_R1002_USEN
[20:45] <clever> The HP LaserJet 1018 and 1020 series products do not support Printer Command Language (PCL) printing. Because these products do not support PCL, this error occurs by design and is not a bug in the product software.
[20:46] <tdn> clever, but I am using the same ppd on the server as on the client. A test page comes out fine from the server.
[20:46] <tdn> HP LaserJet 1010 - CUPS+Gutenprint v5.2.9 (grayscale, 2-sided printing)
[20:47] <clever> cant think of anything else
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[20:51] <Sonny_Jim> Ah CUPS
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[20:52] <f00bar80> always getting RuntimeError: The GPIO channel has not been set up as an OUTPUT , with a led blinking code for pin 11 here's the code http://pastebin.com/RJv2KAmN
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[20:59] <pksato> f00bar80: GPIO.cleanup() is on wrong place.
[21:00] <pksato> It is inside for loop, after first led flash, reset gpio, and error on next interation.
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[21:01] <clever> half right half wrong, python is a bit crazy like this
[21:01] <clever> its on the right line, with the wrong indentation
[21:02] <clever> remove the indent and it will be outside of the loop, even though its on the exact same line
[21:02] <clever> http://pastebin.com/CmxQbeBP for example
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[21:41] <Sonny_Jim> Well, got my camera capturing :-)
[21:42] <zer0her0> congrats Sonny_Jim
[21:42] <Sonny_Jim> It's pretty trivial
[21:42] <Sonny_Jim> VideoCapture EyeToy(0);
[21:43] <Sonny_Jim> EyeToy.read (image);
[21:43] <zer0her0> still always a good feeling even simple stuff :)
[21:43] <Sonny_Jim> imshow ("Display", image);
[21:43] <oldtopman> Sonny_Jim: Is the rpi camera really called the EyeToy?
[21:43] <Sonny_Jim> It's not an rpi camera
[21:43] <Sonny_Jim> Can you guess what I'm using instead ;-)
[21:43] <oldtopman> The sony EyeToy?
[21:43] <Sonny_Jim> Sure
[21:43] <oldtopman> :D
[21:43] <Sonny_Jim> 50pence
[21:44] <oldtopman> whoah
[21:44] * oldtopman still has one
[21:44] <Sonny_Jim> And it looks like 50p's worth as well
[21:44] <Sonny_Jim> Won't work on current kernel due to a bug I found
[21:44] <Sonny_Jim> You have to roll back about 5 months
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[22:05] <Sonny_Jim> This looks pretty nifty:
[22:05] <Sonny_Jim> https://code.google.com/p/find-object/wiki/FindObjectsWithWebcam
[22:05] <Sonny_Jim> No point reinventing the wheel, right?
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[22:06] <ShorTie> that is what they say atleast
[22:06] <pwillard> openjdk-7-jre or oracle JDK 7? which do I want?
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[22:22] <mrmoney2012> can't get my memory split to work? i put gpu_mem=16 in config.txt but still... Mem: 121M
[22:22] <mrmoney2012> i'd expect Mem: 232M
[22:22] <mrmoney2012> oh errr.
[22:22] <mrmoney2012> is this a 128 mb pi ?
[22:23] <mrmoney2012> two models right 128 and 256?
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[22:24] <mrmoney2012> hmm, both pi are Revision : 0002
[22:24] <ShorTie> 256 & 512 i thought
[22:24] <mrmoney2012> oh yeah - sorry
[22:24] <mrmoney2012> that's right - can't figure it out then
[22:25] <mrmoney2012> do i need anything else bar gpu_mem=16 i
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[22:26] <ShorTie> have you tried like 17 or 18 ??
[22:26] <ShorTie> maybe they forgot the = too
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[22:28] <ShorTie> do you have a gpu_mem_256 or 512 ??
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[22:28] * ShorTie just l00kin at http://elinux.org/RPiconfig
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[22:59] <Sonny_Jim> Bah spoke too soon
[22:59] <Sonny_Jim> find-object uses an old version of the library
[22:59] <Sonny_Jim> IMREAD_GRAYSCALE no longer exists
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[23:24] <Sonny_Jim> Does synaptic use the same repositories as apt-get?
[23:24] <debenham> yes
[23:24] <Sonny_Jim> Bah
[23:25] <Sonny_Jim> The version of OpenCV in the repository is old
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[23:34] <Amadiro> Sonny_Jim, debians general strategy is "old but stable". Other distros like Archlinux OTOH try to always chase the latest versions of all packages
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[23:35] <Amadiro> Each has its advantages and disadvantages, but at any rate, you can always install a newer version with a bit of work
[23:36] <Sonny_Jim> Don't really feel like waiting 6hrs or setting up a cross compilation. The Pi is the only linux box I have atm
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[23:40] <Amadiro> Sonny_Jim, well, normally you'd probably find repositories you could add with newer versions, but for ARM, maybe not
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[23:40] <Sonny_Jim> No worries, I'll just leave it to run overnight
[23:41] <Sonny_Jim> It's annoying as 2.3 doesn't have the swanky pants face detection
[23:42] <Amadiro> archlinux has 2.4.7
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[23:42] <Sonny_Jim> I'm not changing my entire OS for a single app version bump ;-)
[23:43] <Amadiro> Sonny_Jim, well, if you do a lot of coding, it's pleasant to always have up-to-date stuff of everything
[23:43] <Amadiro> but yes, if that's all you need, just compile it yourself
[23:43] <Sonny_Jim> Will do
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[23:57] <Sonny_Jim> Ha, well it's laggy as *something* but I got the face recognition demo to wor
[23:57] <Sonny_Jim> *wor
[23:57] <Sonny_Jim> *work
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