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IRC Log for 2014-01-10

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[0:00] <n3hxs> Yep, there are those who would mechanically remove the surface of the chip and read each cell to get at securely locked software. If someone wants your software they will steal your whole system and work at it later.
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[0:02] <pagios> wtf
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[0:16] <steev> sney: blah, same thing occurs with 3.6.y, i have no idea what's causing this at all
[0:16] <steev> http://bpaste.net/show/BNbwFDhgbJ7apYllZ3Zx/
[0:16] <sney> is the pi known good? does it work ok with a stock raspbian image, for instance?
[0:17] <steev> let me download one - the pi was working, it's possible that it broke
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[0:45] <steev> sney: stock raspbian 2014-01-07 boots
[0:45] <steev> http://bpaste.net/show/SthLrYfTT9AwNz4IBbPD/
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[0:47] <shiftplusone> steev, what's this thing other than raspbian that's failing?
[0:47] <steev> it would be nice if the kernel would actually say what commit it's on, rather than just the + on top of the version number
[0:47] <steev> shiftplusone: debian armel image
[0:48] <shiftplusone> ah, that "should" work. And you're using the same kernel for both?
[0:48] <steev> http://bpaste.net/show/BNbwFDhgbJ7apYllZ3Zx/
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[0:48] <steev> no, because i apply 1 patch to mac80211
[0:49] <steev> and since the raspbian kernel just reports as 3.10.25+ i don't know what git commit it's at
[0:49] <steev> nor the firmware's git commit
[0:49] <shiftplusone> and if you don't apply any patches and just use this ? https://github.com/raspberrypi/firmware/raw/master/boot/kernel.img
[0:49] <steev> http://bpaste.net/show/xWVuzL8P3sfpjC8tOgEn/
[0:51] <shiftplusone> that does not look like the foundation kernel
[0:51] <steev> uhh, well that's what firmware's kernel.img says
[0:52] <shiftplusone> Alright, I'll take your word for it. So then the problem is on the rootfs... Hrmph... you're not overclocking or anything?
[0:52] <steev> [ 0.000000] Linux version 3.10.25+ (dc4@dc4-arm-01) (gcc version 4.7.2 20120731 (prerelease) (crosstool-NG linaro-1.13.1+bzr2458 - Linaro GCC 2012.08) ) #622 PREEMPT Fri Jan 3 18:41:00 GMT 2014 that's the line from raspbian
[0:52] <steev> which is identical in my paste
[0:53] <steev> not overclocked that i'm aware of, whatever firmware sets (and i haven't set anything up manually)
[0:53] <shiftplusone> Yeah, I opened the links in the wrong order and got them mixed up
[0:54] <shiftplusone> I would expect it to just work... odd. The thing is there are very few people who would run plain debian instead of raspbian and the debian folks don't have much interest in supporting the pi, so I suspect you might be out of luck.
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[0:55] <shiftplusone> and you're sure your cmdline.txt is good?
[0:55] <shiftplusone> looks fine to me... nvrm
[0:55] <steev> the only thing i don't have is that elevator bit?
[0:55] <steev> maybe...
[0:56] <shiftplusone> Just out of curiosity, why debian?
[0:56] <issackelly> I want to make some modifications to omxplayer to use it for an art installation. I'm wondering if anybody could help point me in the right direction. I need the screen to blank when it pauses, and I need it to not say "play.. pause.. " etc in the white overlay.
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[0:56] <shiftplusone> issackelly, do you know c?
[0:56] <issackelly> shiftplusone yes
[0:56] <shiftplusone> then hack away https://github.com/popcornmix/omxplayer
[0:57] <steev> shiftplusone: because the distro is based on debian, to base it on raspbian would be... a whole lot more work
[0:57] <issackelly> shiftplusone yeah, I am sort of hoping somebody can say "look here" so I don't necessiarly have to learn the whole code base
[0:57] <shiftplusone> I'll dig through the source a little, issackelly.
[0:57] <issackelly> shiftplusone me too :)
[0:58] <shiftplusone> ah and it's c++... thought it was c =/
[1:00] <shiftplusone> issackelly, well, there's --no-osd which is half of what you're after, I think.
[1:00] <issackelly> yeah, just saw the "has subtitle" switch on 997 of omxplayer.cpp
[1:00] <issackelly> so, awesome it already has a switch
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[1:02] <issackelly> err... no, I was mixing things up
[1:02] <issackelly> but shiftplusone thanks :) that looks like exactly half of it
[1:02] <shiftplusone> a starting point for the other half seems like KeyConfig.cpp
[1:03] <shiftplusone> actually, https://github.com/popcornmix/omxplayer/blob/master/omxplayer.cpp
[1:04] <shiftplusone> they input handling seems to be there
[1:04] <shiftplusone> line 1267 for what happens when you pause and so on
[1:05] <shiftplusone> and there's a blank_background function, which looks like it could be useful maybe
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[1:14] <issackelly> shiftplusone: cool thanks! I'll poke around at this. time to sort out cross compiling from a mac
[1:14] <shiftplusone> good luck
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[1:18] <issackelly> shiftplusone: oh this looks easy. I think I could do --no-osd and then after I send the "p" I could send "b"
[1:18] <shiftplusone> yeah, there's nothing fancy
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[1:25] <Bozza> when using Win32DiskImager, will there be any free space left on the SD ?
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[1:25] <Bozza> or will it be just the OS with 0 extra space?
[1:25] <shiftplusone> you will have some, but you will also need to expand the fs to get the rest of it
[1:25] <shiftplusone> raspbian has a tool that does it for you as a part of raspi-config
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[1:26] <skullcrasher> you can do this with gparted too
[1:26] <Bozza> is there a tool for this in windows?
[1:27] <shiftplusone> there's no need, since you can do it from the pi
[1:27] <Bozza> if i want to expand the fs in my own distro
[1:27] <Bozza> not raspbian
[1:27] <shiftplusone> you can use a livecd
[1:27] <shiftplusone> with gparted
[1:27] <shiftplusone> but it's still trivial to do from the pi itself
[1:27] <pksato> use "you" distro tools.
[1:28] <shiftplusone> delete partition, re-create it with the same start sector, but going to the end of the card. Reboot, resize2fs
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[1:28] <shiftplusone> so... 2 steps.... modify partition table and resize the filesystem
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[1:29] <Bozza> shitplusone , i guess i could do it with gparted on the pi itself?
[1:29] <Bozza> why is it trivial to do it from the pi?
[1:29] <skullcrasher> Bozza, could work, but for gparted the partition must be unmounted afaik
[1:30] <shiftplusone> yeah, I don't think gparted does on-line resizing
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[1:30] <skullcrasher> yes, but only for unmounted partitions
[1:30] <pksato> ext4 can resized on fly.
[1:31] <shiftplusone> pksato, he wants to use gparted.
[1:31] <pksato> and non resizeble fs? :)
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[1:31] <Bozza_> sorry got disconnected after skullcrashers msg
[1:32] <shiftplusone> doesn't gparted complain if the filesystem is mounted?
[1:32] <Bozza_> shiftplusone: why is it trivial to resize the fs on the pi itself?
[1:32] <skullcrasher> shiftplusone, yes it complains
[1:32] <shiftplusone> Bozza, because it's just 2 commands... very easy.
[1:33] <Bozza_> what commands is it?
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[1:33] <shiftplusone> <shiftplusone> delete partition, re-create it with the same start sector, but going to the end of the card. Reboot, resize2fs
[1:34] <shiftplusone> cfdisk or fdisk or parted.. whatever you prefer... then resize2fs after a reboot
[1:34] <Bozza_> cool
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[1:34] <pksato> or dd if you are a bit hacker. :)
[1:35] <Bozza> is resize2fs only available on rasbpian images?
[1:35] <shiftplusone> no
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[1:36] <pksato> resize2fs is part of e2fsprogs, thas is on all Linux systems.
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[1:50] <Bozza> shiftplusone: can i not just do it with gparted on a livecd? :/
[1:50] <Bozza> is there a reason why it has to be done on the pi itself
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[2:11] <kieppie> hi
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[2:11] <kieppie> I'm running openelec on a RPi - n the process of hacking in MPD, but I need some help finding the analogue audio output device. can someone please help me locate the /dev device, please
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[2:14] <pksato> kieppie: need to use alsa api. alsa donr have /dev/sound_device that can play audio direct.
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[2:15] <kieppie> hi pksato: the new OpenELEC build don't have ALSA baked in, so I'm thinkning of using the OSS directly
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[2:38] <pksato> kieppie: and, other, some applications, like proper midia player for RPi dont use system sound, instead, send direct to GPU.
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[2:41] <kingbo> exit
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[2:50] <kieppie> pksato: the GPU (HDMI) is used by openelec OK, leaving the analogue audio open that I want to use with MPD
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[4:28] * jorge_lo (~anonymous@cpe-24-193-127-172.nyc.res.rr.com) Quit (Quit: jorge_lo)
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[4:29] <rumbaba> has anyone successfully used the pi as a Pulseaudio sink?
[4:29] <rumbaba> need help, stuck :(
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[4:40] * teepee_ is now known as teepee
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[5:48] * chopta (615be4c2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.91.228.194) Quit (Quit: Page closed)
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[6:15] * Disconnected.
[6:16] -hitchcock.freenode.net- *** Looking up your hostname...
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[6:16] -NickServ- You have 30 seconds to identify to your nickname before it is changed.
[6:16] -NickServ- You are now identified for DataBot.
[6:16] -MemoServ- You have 2 new memos.
[6:16] -MemoServ- To read them, type /msg MemoServ READ NEW

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