#raspberrypi IRC Log


IRC Log for 2014-01-24

Timestamps are in GMT/BST.

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[0:15] <rikkib> $30NZD for an active gps antenna...
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[0:22] <rikkib> This Navman Jupiter 21 GPS module is a breeze to set up... Fire 5V at it and it goes into its default mode and fires data at you on the serial port at cmos levels (3.3v) every second.
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[0:24] <rikkib> Typical current 75mA
[0:24] <shiftplusone> how much are they?
[0:24] <rikkib> @5V
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[0:24] <rikkib> Not sure you can get this model anymore... Try a search for Navman Jupiter 31
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[0:25] <rikkib> I scrounged it out of an old gps/gsp tracking unit that arrived at the computer recycling company
[0:25] <shiftplusone> ah, nice
[0:25] <rikkib> Best price... Free
[0:26] * plugwash thought that pretty much all GPS modules did what rikkib describes
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[0:26] <rikkib> True
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[0:28] <rikkib> I have worked with gps before on the software side... I did a proof of concept for the first gps/gsm/micro tracking unit developed in NZ
[0:28] <rikkib> Server with gsm modems and gis server
[0:29] <rikkib> All in java
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[0:31] <rikkib> But was not involved in the hardware side so much apart from advise when the developers had bugs they needed to sort out (I have HC11 stuff which was what they were developing with)
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[0:32] <rikkib> Still a free module means I can play... Well the price of an antenna.
[0:33] <rikkib> Not worth making one... My antenna analyzer only goes to 450Mhz.
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[0:34] <rikkib> Not rich enough to own a spectrum analyzer
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[0:35] <plugwash> mmm, specans are expensive even used
[0:35] <plugwash> VNAs are even more.......
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[0:36] <rikkib> I have a couple of scope
[0:36] <rikkib> 30mhz & 100mhz dual chan
[0:37] <plugwash> mind you if you want a scope that will go into the ghz I belive it will cost you even more than a VNA in the same frequency range
[0:38] <rikkib> I am just a hobby electronics nut
[0:39] <rikkib> I did a bit of component level repair in my 20's (1980"s)
[0:41] <rikkib> Jigged up with good and bad boards side by side when I used to make space invader machines.
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[0:42] <rikkib> http://bencom.co.nz:8081 What do I do next? I have five RPi plus other stuff fixed to a backing board.
[0:43] <rikkib> The 6th RPi provides the video feed to may gateway server. Both machines running motion
[0:44] <rikkib> My RPi's have been lying idle for three months so need to start again and make everything that I had working, work again.
[0:45] <rikkib> Want to get the link between the RPi and the STM32V 3.5" tft display
[0:46] <rikkib> I have the serial working but yet to do the hard yards for the 20mhz spi
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[0:47] <rikkib> Which means figuring out a protocol
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[0:47] <rikkib> I see adafruit has done something in this area
[0:48] <rikkib> hooking a 2.5" tft to a rpi
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[0:59] <rikkib> OK... Six network cables plugged into six RPi... Four ports left on my 16 port switch.
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[1:00] <rikkib> Burn another card (This one 16GB) with Wheezy.
[1:01] <rikkib> Two of the RPi will be running nfs using a 2GB card
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[1:06] <rikkib> dd bs=1M if=2014-01-07-wheezy-raspbian.img of=/dev/sdc
[1:06] <rikkib> That should burn while I have lunch
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[1:09] <ShorTie> burn ??
[1:09] <ShorTie> it might copy
[1:11] <plugwash> some people seem to use the term "burn" to reffer to writing images to cards, I presume it's a holdover from burning optical media
[1:11] <plugwash> (where the data is literally burnt into the dye layer)
[1:14] <ShorTie> yup, was just trying to re-assimilat him .. :/~
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[1:16] <plugwash> Thought the term burning was also used with eproms
[1:17] <plugwash> which are quite similar in principle to flash
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[1:24] <pwillard> been many hours building node.js from source... why did I think it would be quick? silly me.
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[1:50] <rikkib> Take a copy of new wheezy install to use as the basis for nfs boot RPi's.
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[2:32] <Baluse> is raspberry good for production use ?
[2:32] <Baluse> with postgres server and ruby
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[2:34] <rikkib> Not on its own in my humble opinion
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[2:35] <Baluse> what do you mean
[2:35] <rikkib> For [production you need a linux server to provide the nfs boot
[2:35] <rikkib> That way the sd card is read only with boot partition only
[2:35] <Baluse> they managed to install these (took 3 days to accomplish)
[2:35] <sney> well, or some usb root drive.
[2:36] <sney> the important thing is not to put important files on the sd card
[2:36] <Baluse> where to put them ?
[2:36] <rikkib> the rest comes from a normal hard disk (array or whatever backup you like to use)
[2:37] <rikkib> on a nfs server
[2:37] <Baluse> seems smart
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[2:37] <rikkib> I have a camera that has been running for a year now using nfs
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[2:38] <rikkib> sometimes the machine falls over but not often
[2:38] <rikkib> that is despite running the watcdog to keep an eye on things
[2:39] <rikkib> I would not use a RPi in a nuclear power plant :)
[2:39] <Baluse> lol
[2:40] <rikkib>
[2:41] <rikkib> http://bencom.co.nz:8081 The cam module on my desk
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[5:26] <Gates> hi
[5:26] <Gates> Can anyone help me setup a with GPIO
[5:26] <Gates> I have the lib setup and + in pin1 and - in pin13
[5:27] <Gates> can someone help me with a listener?
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[5:29] <NP`42> ?
[5:32] <Gates> im guessing i cant just do
[5:32] <Gates> GPIO.add_event_detect(13, GPIO.RISING)
[5:32] <Gates> in python
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[7:58] <jdhore> Oter than booting it, how do i determine if my Rev2 Model B Pi is 256MB RAM or 512MB?
[7:58] <jdhore> *Other
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[8:07] <plugwash> You look at the part number on the ram chip
[8:08] <plugwash> I belive for samsung and hynix parts if the part number contains "2G" it's a 256 megabyte (2 gigabit) chip and if the part number contains 4G it's a 512 megabyte (4 gigabit) chip
[8:09] <plugwash> IIRC the micron parts use a different scheme but I think all Pis with micron chips have 512MB
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[8:31] <jdhore> Sweet, it's a 512MB model, thanks
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[9:56] <Vialas> herrrooowww everyone
[9:57] <Vialas> how are you all my raspi lovers :D
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[10:05] <SopaXorzTaker> It sucks
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[10:12] <Vialas> it sucks?
[10:12] <Vialas> what
[10:12] <Vialas> why SopaXorzTaker
[10:12] <Vialas> :O
[10:13] <SopaXorzTaker> Coz odroid is way cooooler\
[10:13] <Vialas> what
[10:13] <Vialas> yuck
[10:13] * Vialas vomits
[10:13] <Vialas> are you serious?
[10:13] <SopaXorzTaker> http://hardkernel.com
[10:14] <Vialas> wow looks cool
[10:14] <SopaXorzTaker> check out the odroid-xu
[10:14] <SopaXorzTaker> 8 cores
[10:14] <SopaXorzTaker> 2 ghz
[10:14] <SopaXorzTaker> android preinstall
[10:14] <Vialas> hmmm
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[10:15] <Vialas> i like the 3usb
[10:15] <Vialas> thats cool
[10:15] <Vialas> wana buy me one?
[10:15] <Vialas> plz SopaXorzTaker
[10:15] <SopaXorzTaker> no im 10, and i have one
[10:15] <SopaXorzTaker> xD
[10:15] <Vialas> you are 10 years old?
[10:16] <SopaXorzTaker> yes
[10:16] <Vialas> dam very cool
[10:16] <Vialas> good on ya mate
[10:16] <Vialas> i am still on the u3
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[10:16] <Vialas> where is the x?
[10:17] * SopaXorzTaker smashes another raspi and throws it into a trash can.
[10:17] <Vialas> lol
[10:17] <Vialas> place nice SopaXorzTaker
[10:17] <Vialas> play*
[10:18] <Vialas> hmm 5v, not great
[10:18] * SopaXorzTaker thinked about kittens, and smashed another one.
[10:18] <Vialas> lol
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[10:20] * SopaXorzTaker accidentially smashed his odroid.
[10:20] <Vialas> hahaha
[10:20] <Vialas> unlucky for you
[10:20] * Vialas holds up his raspberypi
[10:20] <Vialas> the winner!!!!
[10:20] * ShorTie thinkz SopaXorzTaker needs a big chill pill
[10:21] <Vialas> i dont like the 5v power supplly
[10:21] <Vialas> one great ideas of the pi is that you can power with any usb cable
[10:21] <Vialas> and if desperate can power straight from another computer, laptop or in my case from the TV :D
[10:22] <SopaXorzTaker> http://hardkernel.com/main/products/prdt_info.php?g_code=G137510300620 <- it was sooo cool :'-(
[10:22] <Vialas> was
[10:22] <Vialas> oh expensive
[10:23] <Vialas> how many odroids you got SopaXorzTaker
[10:23] <SopaXorzTaker> Single Bo-o-o-a-a-a-r-r-d-! Expensi-i-i-v-e-e-e! (crying)
[10:23] <SopaXorzTaker> 1
[10:23] <Vialas> ahhhh
[10:23] <Vialas> i have 5 pis :D
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[10:25] * SopaXorzTaker thrown a broken raspi into Vialas (donе!)
[10:25] <SopaXorzTaker> *вщте!
[10:25] <SopaXorzTaker> *dont!
[10:26] <Vialas> plz send me all your raspberry pis SopaXorzTaker , dont break them
[10:26] <Vialas> hehe
[10:26] <SopaXorzTaker> I'm out of them
[10:26] <Vialas> oh thats sad
[10:26] <Vialas> so what u use your odroid for?
[10:26] <SopaXorzTaker> do you need a trashcan full of broken chips?
[10:26] <Vialas> nup
[10:26] <SopaXorzTaker> i used odroid as serve-e-e-r :(
[10:27] <Vialas> nice, what kind of serve-e-er :(
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[10:27] <Vialas> <and why sad face?>
[10:27] <SopaXorzTaker> because cried
[10:28] <Vialas> but why?
[10:28] <SopaXorzTaker> w-e-e-e-e-b/minecra-a-a-a-ft!
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[10:29] <Vialas> what?
[10:29] <SopaXorzTaker> minecraft http://minecraft.net
[10:30] <SopaXorzTaker> game
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[10:30] <SKyd3R> League of Legends' servers are raspberry
[10:30] <SKyd3R> at least in europe
[10:31] <SKyd3R> haha
[10:32] * SopaXorzTaker startedv to smashing is comp (dont know what im doing)
[10:33] <SopaXorzTaker> *my kbd
[10:33] <SopaXorzTaker> Why there are color lines on my monitor
[10:33] * SopaXorzTaker smashed a monitor (Where are you?)
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[10:35] <ShorTie> Thankz .. :)~
[10:35] <ShorTie> Laughs Out Loud
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[10:39] <Vialas> hmm
[10:39] <Vialas> i am scared
[10:39] <Vialas> i am ringing the police :P
[10:42] <Vialas> you there sobel
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[10:42] <Vialas> oh he gone
[10:42] <Vialas> lol
[10:42] <Vialas> that was weird!
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[10:56] <Vialas> ShorTie?
[10:56] <ShorTie> Yes
[10:59] <Vialas> what you thiink of allthat ?
[10:59] <Vialas> lol
[11:00] <ShorTie> i try not to think, it hurts my brian
[11:02] <tanuva> strange conversations were going on in here...
[11:02] <Vialas> lol
[11:02] <Vialas> yea was odd
[11:06] <Vialas> hmm quiet in here
[11:06] <Vialas> what is going on
[11:06] <Vialas> :S
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[11:17] <mrueg> is it possible to use the raspberry as a sd card reader?
[11:17] * Benguin[ZzZ] is now known as Benguin[College]
[11:17] <mrueg> boot sd card with os into ram, switch sd cards?
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[11:23] <MrVector> Or use a bootloader on the sd card and have the OS on usb? :)
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[11:25] <Vialas> sorry mrueg , i cant help :(
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[11:37] <Perdouille> Hello !
[11:38] <Perdouille> I got a question : Does anyone know if it's possible to record automatically Twitch live's with a raspberry pi ? (Like: The raspberry is always on, and when a live start on a twitch channel, it'll record the live on a hard drive to watch it later)
[11:39] <Vialas> good q Perdouille , but i wonder, you dont like podcasts?
[11:39] <Vialas> guess u want the stuff now
[11:39] <Perdouille> I want to record a gamer channel on twitch, when he stream I'm not always at home so I can't watch
[11:40] <Vialas> oh twitch
[11:40] <Vialas> my bad
[11:40] <Vialas> i was thinking twit.tv lol
[11:40] <Perdouille> Oh :D
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[11:41] <Vialas> what game Perdouille ?
[11:42] <Perdouille> They play a lot of games on this channel, (French streamers)
[11:42] <Perdouille> DayZ, Minecraft, and a lot of others
[11:42] <Vialas> ahh cool
[11:42] <Vialas> i thought of playing Dayz, you heard of rust?
[11:42] <Perdouille> Yeah, I got the two games
[11:42] <Vialas> oh good?
[11:43] <Perdouille> They are both cool, but I prefer DayZ (I got like 250 hours on the mod, and 60 on the "real" game)
[11:43] <Vialas> dang
[11:43] <Vialas> i hear its frustrating
[11:43] <Perdouille> Yeah, when you play the whole day and you die at the end and lose everything
[11:44] <Perdouille> but 5 minutes after, you want to play it again ^^
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[11:49] <Vialas> haha fair enough
[11:49] <Vialas> hope you can get the pi to record for you
[11:50] <Perdouille> I'll post on a forum I think if nobody here got the solution, thanks :)
[11:50] <Vialas> no worries bro
[11:50] <Vialas> i play kerbal :P
[11:50] <Vialas> wish that was on the pi :D
[11:51] <klock> playin kerbal as we speak :P
[11:52] <Vialas> nice klock
[11:52] <Vialas> :D
[11:52] <Vialas> what you got yourself doing?
[11:52] <Perdouille> Kerbal seems great :p
[11:53] <Vialas> its awesome bro
[11:53] <Vialas> you should get it
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[11:55] <Vialas> hey klock how cool woudl this be http://i.imgur.com/Yy48GYz.png
[11:55] <Vialas> displayed on your raspbery pi
[11:55] <Vialas> so cool
[11:55] <klock> i would love that
[11:55] <Vialas> hells yea
[11:56] <klock> isn't there a mod for it?
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[11:56] <Vialas> is there?
[11:56] <klock> i'm lookin around
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[11:56] <Vialas> dude that would be sick, ill have a legit mission control :D
[11:57] <klock> oh lol, i made my way back to that picture
[11:57] <klock> https://github.com/voneiden/ksp-missioncontrol
[11:57] <Vialas> rofl
[11:58] <Vialas> dude klock we gota get this going!
[11:58] <klock> i might mess around with it a bit
[11:58] <Vialas> you code?
[11:58] <klock> nope :P
[11:58] <Vialas> bugger
[11:58] <klock> been trying to get into it
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[12:00] <Vialas> same
[12:00] <Vialas> https://github.com/voneiden/ksp-missioncontrol
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[12:06] <Vialas> lost ya?
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[12:10] <mrueg> raspbian gets no console login prompt after boot, what can i do?
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[12:11] <mrueg> boot before looks good.
[12:12] <Perdouille> Maybe it's a problem with your SD card
[12:12] <Perdouille> I got the same problem with mine, I had to change it
[12:14] <Vialas> yup
[12:14] <Vialas> or sometimes it can be not enough power
[12:14] <Vialas> what usb stuff you got connected?
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[12:15] <mrueg> nothing, just a display via hdmi
[12:15] <mrueg> and keyboard + mouse
[12:15] <Vialas> try without usb connected
[12:15] <Vialas> if not, i think Perdouille is onto something
[12:16] <mrueg> okay thank you
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[12:17] <Vialas> let u sknow how you go mate
[12:17] <mrueg> yeah the raspbarries run in a quite extreme condition :)
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[12:17] <mrueg> berries*
[12:17] <Vialas> ?
[12:17] <Vialas> what u mean
[12:18] <mrueg> they're running in siberia, russia
[12:18] <Vialas> oh yea
[12:18] <Vialas> its a great device
[12:18] <mrueg> there's a heating for the time running
[12:18] <mrueg> but it gets freakingly cold when the stations where they are included are off.
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[12:19] <Vialas> indeed
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[12:24] <Vialas> klock you there?
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[14:31] <Ross-> You can really feel the rPi's gears turning when you try and compile any java
[14:35] <amigojapan> Ross-: I guess, compile it on a computer, and then upload it to the PI
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[14:37] <Ross-> ircubic: Im doing small exercises atm in from an algorithms class
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[14:38] <Ross-> It's all one file stuff, lecturer insisted on doing it in the CLI because he thinks ecplise etc. Is like using a sledgehammer to cack a nut
[14:39] <Ross-> So thought i'd try the rPi to do the exercises
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[15:01] <toothpick> Can anyone help? I have a USB HD I have connected to the RPI, but it does not seem to recognize its partitions
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[15:09] <amigojapan> toothpick: are you using a powered USB hub?
[15:09] <toothpick> amigojapan: no
[15:10] <amigojapan> toothpick: as far as I have heard, it is nessesary
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[15:10] <amigojapan> toothpick: I have not really tried it myself
[15:10] <toothpick> what if i use a Y usb cable, connecting my USB HD to the 2 of the USB inputs ?
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[15:10] <amigojapan> toothpick: the point is that the rPI does not have enough power to power the HDD
[15:11] <toothpick> amigojapan: I see
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[15:16] <ShorTie> is it seen by lsusb and/or does dmesg say anything about it ??
[15:16] <Matt> toothpick: the raspi has current limiting "polyfuses" on the input, to stop it drawing too much power
[15:16] <Matt> and the pi itself requires a fair bit of what's available
[15:16] <ShorTie> if it is a power issue, the rPi would reboot
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[15:16] <Matt> leaving only a couple of hundred milliamps for USB devices
[15:17] <Matt> that's not enough to power a hard disk
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[15:18] <toothpick> Matt: what if I use this ?
[15:18] <toothpick> http://www.ebay.com/itm/1-5M-5FT-USB-3-0-A-2-0-male-power-supply-to-Micro-USB-3-0-Y-cable-4-Mobile-HDD-/130687347710?pt=AU_CablesConnectors&hash=item1e6d92abfe
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[15:18] <Matt> nope
[15:19] <Matt> you need one of two things
[15:19] <Matt> 1) a powered USB hub
[15:19] <Matt> or 2) a USB hard disk with an external power supply (i.e. not powered via usb)
[15:20] <toothpick> :(
[15:20] <Matt> powered usb hubs are plentify and not particularly expensive
[15:20] <Matt> and it means you have more usb ports available
[15:21] <Matt> so you could plug in your hard disk, a keyboard, and a mouse! :)
[15:23] <ShorTie> toothpick, you got a link to that hard drive ??
[15:23] <IT_Sean> toothpick: you will need a powered hub
[15:24] <toothpick> http://www.wdc.com/global/products/specs/?driveID=1022&language=1
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[15:36] <toothpick> Instead of a powered USB hub, is it possible to still use the Y usb cable, in which one will be connected to the PI and the second one will be connected to the same power source as the raspberry pi is connected to ?
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[15:39] <IT_Sean> toothpick: you need a powered USB hub.
[15:39] <toothpick> How will my suggestion will not work?
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[15:42] <knob> toothpick, just try it out man
[15:42] <knob> easiest way to test it
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[15:45] <Matt> toothpick: what's your aversion to getting a powered usb hub?
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[15:46] <ShorTie> although it is a 2.5" hd, the only power spec i can find says it draws .75, so you definitly need some kind of external power for it
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[15:47] <ShorTie> and i would suggest a good usb hub with a power adapter of > then 2 amps for stability
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[15:47] <SeksiCKret> hello
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[15:48] <SeksiCKret> im trying to program my rpi to take a still of my kitty when she comes out and eats, and having problems with motion.conf when it runs WPUT to my ftp. Im going to my bfs parents house for the weekend and would like to get this going to spy on the cat lol
[15:48] <SeksiCKret> Connecting to connected!
[15:48] <SeksiCKret> Logging in as w ... Error: Login-Sequence failed (Login authentication failed)
[15:48] <SeksiCKret> Skipping all files from this account...
[15:48] <SeksiCKret> any advice why wput might do that
[15:49] <SeksiCKret> the pw is correct
[15:49] <SeksiCKret> i checked it and changed it a few times
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[15:49] <SeksiCKret> is it encryption , thats the only google result i found, but that didnt show how to fix it nor do i have an option in the web page control ftp panel thing to change any encryption settings
[15:50] <SeksiCKret> is my ssh key dead on the rpi or something? or not gend?
[15:50] <Matt> wput is ftp, so ssh wouldn't be involved
[15:51] <SeksiCKret> okay. im new to all of this and web page mastery lol
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[15:52] <toothpick> Matt: I could just use a Y cable, it is cheaper
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[15:52] <Matt> toothpick: but the pi doesn't have enough juice to power the drive, so a y-cable doesn't help you :)
[15:53] <toothpick> Matt: And maybe it would work, if the part that gets the power will be powered from the same source the RPI is powered from, and the part that gets the data will be connected to the RPi
[15:53] <Matt> SeksiCKret: I've not played with the raspi camera module - what scripts are you using to do the motion capture?
[15:53] <SeksiCKret> is there any auth settings ftp or client side i should pay attn to specifically? I am not seeing anything in wput --help or my servers ftp info bubles that gives any insight.
[15:53] <SeksiCKret> o well its just a webcam i dont have the module
[15:53] <SeksiCKret> using motion.confs default just taking 2s interval when motions detected
[15:53] <SeksiCKret> figure if this works i can get the piglow to fill flash on pre event
[15:54] <SeksiCKret> seems to trigger the wput but doesnt upload, wput has the auth issue.
[15:54] <SeksiCKret> are you y cabling a video?
[15:54] <Matt> toothpick: depending on your psu, that probably won't work either
[15:54] <SeksiCKret> i read someplace u need to give proper cabling or ground it in audio to device aswell if the cable isnt shielded/grounded
[15:54] <SeksiCKret> oh a drive
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[15:55] <SeksiCKret> my drive fried :( lol
[15:55] <toothpick> Matt: why not ?
[15:55] <Matt> toothpick: my guess would be your're running from a 5V 1A PSU
[15:55] <toothpick> Matt: yes
[15:55] <Matt> the disk is prolly going to need more headroom that you have
[15:56] <toothpick> Matt: what about 2A 5v ?
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[15:57] <Matt> that would probably do it
[15:57] <ShorTie> toothpick, your still not gonna be able to draw the power needed for it thru the rPi
[15:57] <Matt> but you would have to tap the power for the disk from the PSU, before you feed the raspi from it
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[15:58] <IT_Sean> SeksiCKret: Please change your nick. Your current nick is not appropriate for #raspberrypi. Thank you.
[15:58] <Matt> cause even with a beefy psu, the raspi can't push more than a few mA out the usb ports
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[15:59] <facistpig> :D
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[16:03] <toothpick> ShorTie: Matt: what is the specification my usb hub has to have?
[16:03] <toothpick> like how much ampers?
[16:03] <Tududum> toothpick: The Pi has a fuse on the input, 1A IIRC
[16:03] <Tududum> you have to solder a wire over it
[16:03] <ShorTie> not cheap
[16:04] <Tududum> then the pi will drive your disk (if your power supply is strong enough)
[16:04] <toothpick> Tududum: what do you mean ?
[16:04] <Tududum> Or alternatively, power it from GWPIO
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[16:04] <Tududum> toothpick: you want to connect a USB hard drive to your pi Right
[16:04] <Matt> toothpick: remember, that between the power input socket on the pi, and everything else on the board (including the USB sockets) there is a current-limiting device that prevents it drawing more than 1.1A
[16:04] <Tududum> and power it from the pi?
[16:04] <toothpick> Tududum: you mean un-solder the fuse ?
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[16:04] <Tududum> bridge it with a wire
[16:04] <Tududum> if you unsolder it the pi will not longer have any power
[16:05] <ShorTie> [09:47:15] <ShorTie> and i would suggest a good usb hub with a power adapter of > then 2 amps for stability
[16:05] <toothpick> Tududum: where is it located?
[16:05] <Tududum> on the back
[16:05] <Matt> and the pi itself draws 700mA, without any other peripherals attached
[16:05] <toothpick> ShorTie: thank you :)
[16:05] <Tududum> labelled F3 IIRC
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[16:05] <Matt> toothpick: do this at your own risk, obviously
[16:05] <Matt> it's not something I'd recommend
[16:05] <Tududum> but you can also power via GPIO pins, this may be better, you don't have to bridge the fuse
[16:05] <ShorTie> i wouldn't go down that route if you like your rPi, unless you really know what your doing
[16:05] <Tududum> and the micro usb plug is not made for >2A current
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[16:06] <Matt> the traces on the board, etc, aren't spec'ed to carry significantly more current
[16:06] <Tududum> Yes ofc it's your own risk
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[16:06] <Matt> it really is easier and less hassle to get a powered usb hub
[16:06] <Tududum> I have done it before with 1-2A out of the usb port and it didn't burn out
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[16:06] <Matt> plus, as I mentioned previously, that does allow you to have a keyboard and mouse attached as well as your drive :)
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[16:07] <toothpick> I guess i'll just buy the usb powered hub
[16:07] <Tududum> Obviously if you have a hub use it...
[16:07] <Matt> Tududum: one thing to keep in mind is that without that fuse, if you short something, you're pretty much guarenteed to fry something :)
[16:07] <ShorTie> toothpick, i would suggest like a Rosewill rhb-500
[16:07] <Tududum> Matt: Only if your upstream power supply can deliver enormous current
[16:07] <Tududum> if it's 2-3A nothing happens
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[16:08] <IT_Sean> toothpick: really dude... the best and safest option is a powered USB hub.
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[16:10] <Tududum> I made this for my pi: http://s24.postimg.org/lby4wdfmc/board.jpg
[16:10] <toothpick> whats that ?
[16:10] <Tududum> power supply
[16:10] <Tududum> 6-21V in
[16:10] <toothpick> what for ?
[16:10] <IT_Sean> Niiiiiice
[16:10] <IT_Sean> I want one!
[16:11] <Tududum> For embedded usage I just like to connect power to a terminal block instead of using microusb
[16:11] <IT_Sean> Are you planning on producing these for resale?
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[16:12] <Tududum> IT_Sean: not really, for university project
[16:12] <IT_Sean> How does it connect to the raspi?
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[16:12] <Tududum> via GPIO
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[16:12] <IT_Sean> Ahh... 5v pin?
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[16:12] <Tududum> yeah
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[16:12] <IT_Sean> Nice.
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[16:13] <Tududum> also 1 GPIO output with strong mosfet
[16:13] <IT_Sean> what's that for?
[16:13] <Tududum> I don't use it, but some boards are for someone els
[16:14] <Tududum> he will connect an electronic lock
[16:14] <IT_Sean> ah
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[16:15] <Matt> Tududum: nice little board
[16:16] <IT_Sean> ^ that
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[16:25] <Tududum> Anyone ever opened the pi camera?
[16:25] <Tududum> I wonder if a standard CCTV lens can be mounted
[16:25] <IT_Sean> There is no lens mount on the raspi cam
[16:25] <ShorTie> ya, thats been done
[16:25] <IT_Sean> You would have to build a mount
[16:25] <Tududum> IT_Sean: no, but say I remove the lens there is now
[16:26] <Tududum> and then get a fitting mount
[16:26] <Tududum> sadly the normal mounts are 1mm too wide for the holes on the picam
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[16:27] <ShorTie> sortta like this Tududum, http://www.ebay.com/itm/Raspberry-Pi-Camera-Board-w-M12x0-5-mount-Lens-/281212352673?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item41798ff8a1
[16:27] <Tududum> (too narrow*)
[16:27] <Tududum> cool
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[16:27] <Tududum> they made a copy of the board
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[16:35] <EniGMistA> hi all
[16:36] <EniGMistA> i attached my conexant usb dialup modem. which device is it? tty...?
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[16:38] <Tududum> ACM problaby
[16:38] <Tududum> ACM0
[16:38] <Tududum> see dmesg
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[16:42] <ShorTie> Tududum, this might be of interest to you also, http://www.truetex.com/raspberrypi
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[16:43] <Tududum> Thank you
[16:44] <ShorTie> or http://wiki.raspberrytorte.com/index.php?title=Camera_Module_Lens_Modifcation
[16:44] <Tududum> I found that one already
[16:44] <ShorTie> oh, ok
[16:45] <Tududum> The chinese solution is really clean
[16:47] <EniGMistA> dmesg gives me nothing
[16:48] <EniGMistA> ACM0 is not the device
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[16:55] <LordDVG> Is there hardware acceleration for Xorg current?
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[16:55] <LordDVG> on raspbian or any other linux distro?
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[17:06] <EniGMistA> please help me with my usb modem dialup
[17:06] <EniGMistA> lsusb gives me: Bus 001 Device 011: ID 0572:1340 Conexant Systems (Rockwell), Inc.
[17:06] <Tududum> does linux even support it?
[17:07] <EniGMistA> and dmesg: [436207.435499] usb 1-1.3: Product: USB Modem [436207.435513] usb 1-1.3: Manufacturer: Conexant
[17:07] <Tududum> Does it do something if you plug it into a desktop pc with linux
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[17:09] <EniGMistA> i think that raspberry support it because lsusb shows it
[17:09] <Tududum> That just means the USB connection is working
[17:09] <Tududum> you still need a driver
[17:09] <Tududum> to know what to send to the device
[17:09] <Tududum> Otherwise it won't do anything
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[17:11] <EniGMistA> doh. this is the 2nd modem. I changed it because previous haven't drivers :\
[17:11] <Tududum> Apparently there is a driver
[17:11] <Tududum> but not in the standard kernel
[17:11] <Tududum> you have to compile it
[17:11] <Tududum> http://www.linuxant.com/drivers/dgc/
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[17:12] <Tududum> Linux support for modems is really bad, unless you get a 'hardmodem' that just exposes a serial interface and does all protocl handling on device
[17:13] <gordonDrogon> people still use dial-up?
[17:13] <gordonDrogon> wow.
[17:13] <IT_Sean> well... idiots.
[17:13] <IT_Sean> or people who live waaaay out in the stix.
[17:13] <IT_Sean> .. same thing, really.
[17:14] <Tududum> Remote monitoring sites are often connected via dial up
[17:14] <EniGMistA> i need it for fax-server
[17:14] <Tududum> or cell module
[17:14] <SirLagz> ...I had to use dialup once. To download the firmware to fix my modem to get onto ADSL.
[17:14] <gordonDrogon> hey - I live in ruralistan you know ...
[17:14] <gordonDrogon> EniGMistA, are there any /dev/ttyUSB* or /dev/ttyACM* devices after its plugged in?
[17:14] <Tududum> Traffic lights also sometimes have dial up interfaces, although that has almost completely been replaced by cell modems
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[17:15] <IT_Sean> for bulb out / malfuction notifications?
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[17:15] <EniGMistA> gordonDrogon: no. I have only /dev/ttyAMA0 but it isn't the modem
[17:15] <gordonDrogon> chip&pin machines still use modems... although some can use GSM/3G and the local internet connection now.
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[17:15] <gordonDrogon> EniGMistA, in that case, give up.
[17:16] <EniGMistA> :(
[17:16] <gordonDrogon> EniGMistA, get one that's supported directly and it will create a /dev/ttyUSB* or /dev/ttyACM* device and then it will "just work" with e.g. wvdial, etc.
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[17:17] <EniGMistA> arghhh this is the second one. Before i tried with Hamlet HV92USB2
[17:17] <gordonDrogon> it is possible that the modem driver isn't compiled into the kernel, but highly unlikely.
[17:17] <gordonDrogon> there are some winmodem drivers for Linux, but they rely on Linux doing all the DSP stuff - entirely fesable, but it's just more to go wrong.
[17:18] <Tududum> I thought winmodem drivers are impossible to mainline
[17:18] <EniGMistA> after googled i fount http://nonodes.spunow.co.uk/2012/11/usb-modem-from-mono-on-raspberry-pi.html and opted to buy the conexant
[17:18] <Tududum> since it's all patented
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[17:19] <Tududum> EniGMistA: Can you make by with a cell modem, I know one that has just a uart connected to the cell module
[17:19] <Tududum> it will work for sure since I did it (with another board)
[17:20] <Tududum> http://dx.com/p/usb-tri-band-gprs-modem-cell-phone-radio-gsm-900-1800-1900mhz-12057
[17:20] <EniGMistA> Tududum: i cannot send fax via mobile. i will pay a lot of money
[17:20] <Tududum> Ah for fax, yes indeed
[17:21] <gordonDrogon> email to fax gateway?
[17:21] <gordonDrogon> or, you know, welcome to the 2nd decade of the 21st century - fax is so last century ...
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[17:25] <EniGMistA> hehheehe
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[17:26] <jgalt> how can the rasbian image be modified before insertion to run firstboot headless? (ssh enabled, config program run on login.....)
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[17:28] <Tududum> I wonder when the F-35 will be ready for delivery
[17:28] <Nefarious___> SSH is enabled anyway
[17:28] <Tududum> if ever...
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[17:29] <jgalt> ssh is enabled by default on the current raspbian images?
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[17:31] <gordonDrogon> jgalt, it runs that way without doing anything.
[17:31] <Tududum> I /think/ so
[17:32] <gordonDrogon> definately.
[17:32] <gordonDrogon> all you need to do is work out its IP address, ssh in then run sudo rasp-config
[17:32] <Nefarious___> Definitely* :P
[17:32] <jgalt> thanks, had to enable it on my last install
[17:32] <gordonDrogon> Nefarious___, are you poking fun at my inability to spel?
[17:32] <Nefarious___> sudo raspi-config* I think, no?
[17:32] <Nefarious___> Lol
[17:33] <Nefarious___> Nice one ;)
[17:33] <Nefarious___> "spel" heh
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[17:35] <jgalt> any means to change the default user/pass prior to firstboot? got to start over this morning as someone logged in with the defaults as soon as it went live and hacked a bunch of files.
[17:36] <IT_Sean> (O_o)
[17:36] <Tududum> I have seen ssh scans for pi:raspberry
[17:36] <Tududum> so yeah...
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[17:36] <Tududum> Just connect it directly to your pc
[17:36] <Tududum> or edit /etc/shadow
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[17:39] <jgalt> how can I get to the root filesystem of the sd card from my windows pc so I can edit /etc/shadow, /etc/passwd, etc?
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[17:40] <Tududum> There must be some ext4 mount tool for windows?
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[17:49] <ShorTie> ext2fsd looks like a posibility to mod ext4 fs http://www.howtogeek.com/112888/3-ways-to-access-your-linux-partitions-from-windows/
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[17:50] <tkonto> Hi all.. RPi v2 ... using an Apple 5A power supply.. connected via ethernet no USB connected. Connecting a WiFi dongle, makes the board to power reset... any ideas?
[17:50] <Tududum> 5A?
[17:50] <Tududum> Didn't know they made that in USB
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[17:51] <ShorTie> yup, not much other then usb hub will fix it
[17:51] <Tududum> Where did you get a 5A usb charger?
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[17:51] <Tududum> that will melt the usb cables
[17:52] <ShorTie> it might be ok if it is plugged in before boot
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[17:56] <ShorTie> my usb hub came with a 4amp power adapter
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[17:56] <tkonto> Tududum... the power supply is 5A...
[17:57] <tkonto> from my ipad :)
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[17:57] <Tududum> Ok
[17:57] <tkonto> upos
[17:57] <tkonto> sorry
[17:57] <Tududum> Didn't know that exists
[17:57] <tkonto> wrong writting
[17:57] <tkonto> it does not :)
[17:57] <tkonto> 5V 1A
[17:57] <Tududum> Ah yes
[17:57] <tkonto> I know.. now we are talking :D
[17:57] <Tududum> 5A would melt the USB connector, and the cable too probably
[17:57] <tkonto> true
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[17:58] <tkonto> (if not the soldering of the psu connector on the board too)
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[17:58] <Tududum> That would surprise me
[17:58] * IT_Sean melts Tududum
[17:58] <Tududum> unsoldering USB connector is not easy
[17:58] <Tududum> so to do it accidentally
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[17:58] <tkonto> Tududum: I have succeeded in that in the recent past
[17:58] <Tududum> lol ok
[17:59] <Tududum> by overcurrent?
[17:59] <Tududum> I recently got safety instructions for working in a high voltage lab
[17:59] <Tududum> for example you should never touch a wire with your tongue to test if it is live
[17:59] <Tududum> well, duh...
[17:59] <tkonto> if you set it eloquently you can call it just "over"
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[18:00] <tkonto> anyway.. does it sound like a power issue?
[18:00] <Tududum> yes
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[18:01] <tkonto> should I go for my multimeter an test what is going around the board?
[18:01] <Tududum> You probably cannot see it
[18:01] <tkonto> is the 1A the requirement for this board?
[18:01] <Tududum> the dropout will be very short
[18:01] <ShorTie> na, it's well known and common
[18:01] <Tududum> you need a scope to see it if you want to
[18:01] <tkonto> let me put it in another way.. how much current this wifi dongle drains out so that 5V 1A is not enough?
[18:02] <Tududum> peaks of 400-500mA
[18:02] <ShorTie> you might be able to plug the wifi in without reboot if you got like a 2 amp supply
[18:03] <tkonto> ok... I see... based on experience is 1A enough to run the board with just a single wifi dongle connected? (no other USB or ethernet connections)
[18:03] <ShorTie> the rPi has a 700ma poly fuse, which can pass up to 1.1 amp for a short burst
[18:03] <IT_Sean> it depends on the dongle
[18:03] <Tududum> deponds on the dongle
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[18:04] <ShorTie> so to keep the voltage up, you need some extra amps to back it up
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[18:04] <tkonto> TL-WN725v2 I can not find the power supply specs
[18:05] <Tududum> Some usb chargers also drop output voltage above 500mA
[18:05] <Tududum> to reduce dissipation in the phone
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[18:06] <Jusii> in my experience even 3A psu isn't enough to hot plug wifi dongles without a hub. I think it's always the polyfuse that kicks in
[18:06] <tkonto> that makes a lot of sence
[18:06] <Jusii> or add capacitors that meet the USB minimum requirements to usb ports
[18:06] <Tududum> Also don't add too many
[18:06] <Jusii> afaik, they're under the spec on pi
[18:07] <Tududum> or you will stress the polyfuse every time you power up
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[18:07] <Tududum> increasing its resistance every time
[18:07] <tkonto> IT_Sean... do that on circuit with the electrolytic capacitors reversed on purpose :D:D:D:D
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[18:07] <IT_Sean> tkonto: been there, done that
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[18:24] <tkonto> OK... I made it work... it looks ok with just the wifi connected.. no disconnections so far... I have to stress test it
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[18:39] <jgalt> I finally gave up on having powersupply problems with the pi as picky as it is and bought a real power supply just for use with the pi... bought one of these: http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/VGD-60-D512/102-2525-ND/2941854
[18:39] <jgalt> works quite well
[18:39] <jgalt> with pleanty to spare
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[18:40] <knob> jgalt, no crap! That's like a professional grade PSU right there
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[18:40] <knob> costs as much as the PI itself
[18:40] <knob> What problems where you having?
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[18:41] <knob> I have seen people solder an bigger capacitor over the factory one
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[18:41] <knob> *a
[18:42] <ebarch> you trying to power something crazy off your pi? i've been using those 1A 5V cell phone bricks without an issue so far
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[18:43] <knob> Yeah.. me too. I only had to upgrade to a phone-style 2A when I started using the camera board, WiFi usb dongle, and wireless kb+mouse
[18:43] <ebarch> i do typically run headless =)
[18:43] <jgalt> ethernet not working, usb problems, generally unreliable board. the first board I had was rma due to so many problems that only after the second board and much more fighting with it did I find it power related. those microsecond power glitches really bite!
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[18:44] <knob> jgalt, interesting! All the rPi I have bought have been fine. Were yours early models?
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[18:44] <knob> ebarch, I have various headless... do you turn off the HDMI output?
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[18:44] <Encrypt> Hi o/
[18:44] <knob> err... or video out put, rather
[18:44] <jgalt> ....and they're difficult to trace. takes a scope which most don't have and isn't mentioned often enough.
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[18:44] <ebarch> never touched any of the video settings...usually just disable X on bootup
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[18:45] <jgalt> yea, failure to boot or sometimes failure with video were other issues due to power
[18:45] <knob> ebarch, let me get you some text... might interest you. My headless rPis turn off the video after boot-up
[18:46] <knob> jgalt, true on the scope.... I have to buy one... my first one, and still haven't done it
[18:46] <jgalt> I just know that my beagles havn't been so picky and I've never had power issues with them
[18:46] <knob> Want one of those Tektronix ones... 4xxx 456? 486? Don't remember the mnodel
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[18:47] <Jusii> RPi has its (annoying) things, but once you know them, they're almost all easy to avoid. and there isn't so many of them
[18:47] <jgalt> knob, budget about $200 and buy an old 100mhz tektronics, maybe a 2235.... you won't be disappointed.
[18:48] <knob> ebarch, I don't know if this will help : /opt/vc/bin/tvservice -off
[18:48] <knob> jgalt, searching eBay now
[18:49] <knob> jgalt, the 2235 looks newer and better than the 465 versions
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[18:52] <jgalt> the 465 is a nice scope though
[18:53] <knob> Found this one: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Tektronix-2235-100MHz-Two-Channel-Oscilloscope-Two-Probes-Power-Cord-Great-/151208589914?pt=BI_Oscilloscopes&hash=item2334bbfa5a
[18:53] <knob> Looks in excellent condition... yet, $300 plus $100 for S&H
[18:54] <jgalt> there's a 2236 listed which is what I ended up with on my bench along with a 2235 but the 2236 I see is for parts, non working, kinda wish I could buy it but they want to much for a non working scope
[18:55] <ppq> just curious, why would you buy an analogue scope? it's 2014
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[18:55] <knob> ppq... Well, no specific reason... although I do like old, good-quality things. Would you have a suggestion for a good digital one that isn't too crazy in price?
[18:56] <ebarch> knob: very cool...didn't know about that - thanks!
[18:56] <jgalt> knob, that 2235 does look like a really nice scope. really clean and includes probes.... but still more than I'd spend
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[18:56] <knob> ebarch, cool!!! I have some more stuff in my notes... yet at the very end they state "DOES NOT WORK" lol
[18:56] <ebarch> haha
[18:57] <ppq> knob: i have one in mind, i'm trying to remember the model number. tektronix
[18:57] <jgalt> knob, be patient and you'll find deals that will get you a 2 channel 100mhz scope in decent condition under 200 bucks
[18:57] <knob> jgalt, cool coo.... going to keep on looking.
[18:57] <knob> No hurries... yet I do want to start using one. I think I will gain new insights with it
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[18:58] <knob> ppq, Rigol?
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[18:58] <jgalt> some of the 4 channel models are nice as well but I find that I rarely use more than 2 channels
[18:58] <ebarch> you need a scope or logic analyzer? love this if all you need is to look at logic levels: https://www.sparkfun.com/products/8938
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[19:00] <knob> ebarch, awesome looking tool! Although logic things are still kinda flying over my head at the moment.
[19:00] <jgalt> I'd buy a bus pirate https://www.sparkfun.com/products/9544 before I'd spend $149 on a logic analizer. the bus pirate will do most of the same job and more
[19:01] <jgalt> the 149 will get you most of a good scope
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[19:03] <ppq> knob: sorry, i just can't remember what the tektronix one is called. it's probably not cheap, too. about the rigol - i heard the ds1052e is a nice device, and can be hacked to increase the bandwidth from 50 to 100 MHz. i never used it myself though
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[19:18] <jgalt> knob, you still around? pm me I think I found some deals!
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[19:24] <Encrypt> Is this the Raspberry Pi USB port (model B): http://fr.farnell.com/wurth-elektronik/61400826021/usb-typ-a-dualport-wrcom-2-x-4/dp/1642034 ?
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[19:24] <Encrypt> I'm looking for somethins similar... But with only one port
[19:25] <Encrypt> And since it seems quite sturdy on the Raspbery Pi...
[19:25] <Encrypt> ... i'm looking for the same
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[19:26] <IT_Sean> You would have to check the BOM (if avail) to see the exact part used.
[19:27] <Encrypt> IT_Sean, Ok, I'll see if it is available :)
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[19:29] <Encrypt> IT_Sean, You're right... I didn't know this was available...
[19:29] <Encrypt> http://elinux.org/RPi_Partial_BOM_Rev2.0_ModelB
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[19:30] * IT_Sean nods
[19:30] <IT_Sean> I had a feeling it would be.
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[19:34] <ShorTie> polyfuse miniSMD 1A1 6V 1
[19:35] <ShorTie> does that mean it also provides over voltage protection too ??
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[19:35] <shiftplusone> nuh
[19:35] <mgottschlag> ShorTie: no, the fuse might conduct over 6V even if it is tripped
[19:36] <mgottschlag> s/is/has/
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[19:36] <shiftplusone> that's a maximum voltage where it will operate as it's meant to
[19:36] <mgottschlag> well, might conduct better than rated, after all this is a polyfuse
[19:36] <mgottschlag> so it will always conduct
[19:36] <ShorTie> oh, ok
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[19:36] <Encrypt> mgottschlag, \o/
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[19:37] <mgottschlag> Encrypt: w.r.t. usb port, you should be able to use almost any right angle USB A port, most of them are compatible
[19:38] <Encrypt> Yes, right
[19:38] <mgottschlag> usuall, unless you get one of these weird vertial ones :D
[19:38] <Encrypt> eh eh :p
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[19:43] <mgottschlag> also, market price in china: 8ct/piece :D
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[19:43] <mgottschlag> (for single connectors, not those double ones)
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[19:44] <ShorTie> ya, ebay would be a good place for those if you can efford the wait time
[19:45] <IT_Sean> you gotta order them from, like, china though... and shipping from china takes fordammedever
[19:46] <mgottschlag> indeed
[19:46] <ShorTie> it's called planing ahead, hehe
[19:46] <mgottschlag> (although I have never had any problems except shipping time with china yet)
[19:46] <SiC> don't forget china is on holiday now too
[19:46] <IT_Sean> Same here...
[19:46] <SiC> if you're ordering in the next month
[19:47] <ShorTie> or as they say, you pay for convience
[19:47] <IT_Sean> The shipping time is retahded though... I just waited 5 weeks for LED bulbs...
[19:47] <SiC> DHL from china usually only takes 2-3 days to the UK
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[19:47] <SiC> ofc you have to pay $25 or so for it
[19:47] <IT_Sean> i was going to cancel the order when i got home last night... they arrived last night. :p
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[19:48] <SiC> yea, you must always keep a watch on the 45 day paypal period
[19:48] <IT_Sean> I've had that happen before. Order something. Ping paypal for non-deivery on the last possible day. Get refund. 3 days later, item arrives.
[19:48] <IT_Sean> :/
[19:49] <SiC> I imagine that the seller can claim back
[19:49] <IT_Sean> I've never had it happen.
[19:50] <IT_Sean> In all but one case, i contacted the seller myself and paid for the item in question.
[19:50] <SiC> nono, I mean the seller can get his money back from china post and the like
[19:50] <IT_Sean> Oh
[19:50] <IT_Sean> I wouldn't know.
[19:50] <Jusii> doubt it, insurance on mail there has to be pennies max
[19:51] <Jusii> even here in finland it's kg/euro ratio, so you lose if not sending just small rocks
[19:52] <Jusii> but don't see why you can't just repay after refund, if you want to be a good customer
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[19:54] <SiC-> man
[19:54] <SiC-> this technicolor router is absolute rubbish
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[19:54] <SiC-> no wonder they give them out free
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[20:19] <cwesterfield> anyone good at darkice configurations?
[20:21] <ThirdEyeSurfer> holy macaroni! gmail is down! People are rioting in the streets, throwing trash cans at storefronts. I have nailed my door shut. I hold my gun. I wait.
[20:22] <IT_Sean> reeeelax ThirdEyeSurfer... it's just gmail.
[20:22] <IT_Sean> it's not like it's important or anything.
[20:23] <cwesterfield> That's it man, game over man, game over! What the flip are we gonna do now? What are we gonna do?
[20:23] <ThirdEyeSurfer> IT_Sean, it ain't but still, all those ppl on the streets...
[20:23] <ThirdEyeSurfer> *wink wink*
[20:23] * IT_Sean sighs
[20:24] * IT_Sean locks all the doors
[20:24] * IT_Sean reaches into his pocket and gently fingers the key to the company armory
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[20:24] <ThirdEyeSurfer> IT_Sean, don't do that, it's all back to normal.
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[20:24] <IT_Sean> Indeed, iti s
[20:25] <ThirdEyeSurfer> wonder what would happen if google died all of a sudden, not just gmail and it's town of ghosts called g+...
[20:25] <IT_Sean> something else would appear in it's plac
[20:25] <shiftplusone> that would be nice
[20:25] <IT_Sean> *place
[20:25] <ThirdEyeSurfer> yup. but imagine all the people relying on google alone...
[20:26] <kahrn> bing would fill its place.
[20:26] <kahrn> nahhhhhh
[20:26] * ThirdEyeSurfer bings himself off the walls
[20:26] <gordonDrogon> duckduckgo.
[20:26] <ShorTie> gmail was down cause the NSA was doing system upgrade, lol.
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[20:27] <ThirdEyeSurfer> ShorTie, probably... gordonDrogon, but not all people are aware of other search engines than goog and ping
[20:27] <kahrn> I used bing for the first time the other day, but only because i might have been using TOR and duckduckgo was down/blocked and google was blocking the tor exit due to spam
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[20:27] <kahrn> i think yahoo randomly disappeared too.
[20:28] <ThirdEyeSurfer> used bing once in my life when it was being introduced
[20:28] <ThirdEyeSurfer> yahoo disappeared? it's there, just not in the first league
[20:29] <steve_rox> i call it bong
[20:30] <gordonDrogon> I remember gopher and archie ...
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[20:31] <cwesterfield> so I have a problem with too many variables, problem solve with me
[20:31] <cwesterfield> I'm trying to use a UCA202 as an input into darkice, which then goes to icecast
[20:32] <cwesterfield> which outputs a http stream in mp3 format to my sonos
[20:32] <cwesterfield> its not working well, and I don't know if wifi, darkice, uca202, or sonos is the issue
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[20:36] <ThirdEyeSurfer> cwesterfield, what do you mean by: not working well? provide more variables.
[20:37] <cwesterfield> Sounds works okay, but then it will cut out after a while or particularly soft music
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[20:37] <cwesterfield> end of a track is bad
[20:38] <cwesterfield> but if i disconnect from the feed and pop back in, the sound comes back
[20:38] <cwesterfield> it could be buffer settings in darkice, but I'm unsure
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[20:39] <ThirdEyeSurfer> I'd try checking darkice manpages and adjusting your configuration
[20:40] <cwesterfield> k
[20:40] <ThirdEyeSurfer> cwesterfield, for a start have a peep here: https://code.google.com/p/darkice/issues/list
[20:40] <cwesterfield> I fooled with qualities, but not buffering
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[20:41] <Raynerd> Evening..
[20:42] <IT_Sean> Afternoon.
[20:43] <Raynerd> Anyone tell me, if I have a variable holding a variable in one script,.. How can I use the variable in another script?
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[20:45] <Jusii> need more info
[20:46] <Jusii> is one script running the other
[20:47] <Jusii> you can pass the variable as argument or if script 1 calls script 2 simple export VARIABLE should do
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[20:48] <Raynerd> Jusii - I have a device measuring the room temperature and also a totally different script tweeting the CPU temp of my pi. I want to replace the CPU temp with the room temp...so presume that the temperature must be being held in a variable somewhere. Want to grab that and use it in the twitter code!
[20:49] <ThirdEyeSurfer> Raynerd, why not copy it to the script you want to use it in?
[20:49] <Jusii> Raynerd: could you just put that temp in file?
[20:49] <Raynerd> ??
[20:49] <Raynerd> I'm nooby, not made either of these just followed both tutorials independently
[20:49] <ThirdEyeSurfer> what language you code in?
[20:50] <Raynerd> I do a bit of c with microcontroller but not software... No clue with python
[20:50] <ThirdEyeSurfer> i mean the script you've got problems with
[20:50] <Raynerd> Bo python
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[20:50] <Raynerd> Both**
[20:51] <Raynerd> http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/how-to-build-a-raspberry-pi-twitter-bot/. Twitter stuff
[20:51] <ThirdEyeSurfer> you can import the file holding the variable to the other file by: import <name_of_the_file_with_variable>, and invoke it in the code with <name_of_the_file_with_variable>.nameOfVariable
[20:52] <Raynerd> https://github.com/tomhartley/AirPi/blob/master/README.md Temp code..
[20:52] <Raynerd> Ok.. That might help... Now I need to find out where it is storing the temp variable
[20:52] <ThirdEyeSurfer> Raynerd, why not put it all in one file, with imports at the top? tried it some time ago, it's just one file
[20:53] <Raynerd> To be honest, that twitter code is only a few lines... Maybe I just add that code into the file
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[20:54] <ThirdEyeSurfer> Raynerd, http://pastebin.com/PHm8NiQM
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[20:55] <Raynerd> ThirdEyeSurfer: Where is that reading temp from? Sorry! I'm still trying to get to grips
[20:56] <ThirdEyeSurfer> ahh. I had temp code in separate file... just a sec
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[20:57] <ThirdEyeSurfer> http://pastebin.com/Pm0pKmmJ
[20:57] <ThirdEyeSurfer> now it reads the temperature "from" the variable cmd
[20:57] <systemG3002> is it possible to have a web server play a sound on the pi when a certain web page is loaded? i have tried using php but for some reason using exec() to run either aplay or mpg123 does not result in sound output. it works manually..
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[21:00] <ThirdEyeSurfer> Raynerd, but you've got it all there in the article... http://pastebin.com/x8qMm1sE
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[21:00] <shiftplusone> systemG3002, the www-data user (or whatever php runs as) might not have permissions to access audio devices?
[21:00] <ThirdEyeSurfer> the only difference is I used tweepy and they Twython
[21:01] <systemG3002> shiftplusone: good call! i will check that now
[21:01] <Raynerd> ThirdEyeSurfer: :-(
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[21:02] <ThirdEyeSurfer> Raynerd, are you invoking the script as root (with sudo)?
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[21:02] <Raynerd> Yes
[21:03] <ThirdEyeSurfer> did you register the twitter app correctly? double check that
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[21:03] <ThirdEyeSurfer> and, first of all, does your script tweet anything?
[21:04] <Raynerd> ThirdEyeSurfer: Yes, my code correctly tweets CPU temp. I now want it to tweet the room temp that has been detected from the airpi code
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[21:04] <Celerity> hey guys, I plan to buy an SD card for the Rpi
[21:05] <Celerity> Is 8 gigs enough or should I get the 16 gigs version
[21:05] <ThirdEyeSurfer> Raynerd, aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah. you can simply copy the code and needed libraries into the tweet code and pass them as variables the same way as temp variable is constructed...
[21:05] <sney> 8 is plenty
[21:05] <Celerity> awesome thanks
[21:05] <sney> and keep your important data somewhere else, sd cards are unreliable
[21:05] <Celerity> ah yes
[21:05] <Celerity> I mainly want it for the OS since I read that it's the only way to boot
[21:06] <Celerity> I don't know if updates will slowly creep up into the card
[21:06] <shiftplusone> Celerity, only the firmware and kernel need to be on the sd card
[21:06] <Celerity> oh
[21:06] <sney> yeah you can offload to a usb or nfs root immediately
[21:06] <ThirdEyeSurfer> Celerity, than 4gig (even less) would be nough
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[21:06] <sney> the hifi netinstaller even supports installing with a usb root
[21:06] <shiftplusone> and the 'kernel' could be something like uboot, so ithe linux kernel itself can be remote too. I don't know how well that works though.
[21:06] <Celerity> does it make a significant impact on boot times with the OS on USB?
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[21:07] <shiftplusone> Celerity, in my testing, USB is slightly faster.
[21:07] <Celerity> sweet god! I have a 1tb lying around
[21:07] <sney> the real advantage is not having everything explode in a power failure
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[21:07] <shiftplusone> Celerity, is it externally powered?
[21:07] <Celerity> how does that work sney
[21:07] <Celerity> nope it's a 2.5" USB drive
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[21:08] <shiftplusone> Celerity, then you'll need a powered hub. The pi can't pass that much current through itself to power it alone.
[21:08] <IT_Sean> that'll need a powered hub, m8.
[21:08] <Celerity> ok I have a powered hub as well.
[21:08] <sney> Celerity: power failures / people removing the micro usb plug are the #1 cause of sd card corruption. "everything explodes" is poetic license, but it does usually require a reflash at least
[21:08] <Celerity> ah I get it.
[21:09] <Celerity> Even though the usb is faster, the SD card setup is more people-proof
[21:09] <Celerity> right?
[21:09] <sney> people-proof?
[21:09] <Celerity> idiot-proof because it's not as easy to nudge the sd card out.
[21:09] <sney> nah. it's totally easy to nudge the sd card out
[21:09] <Celerity> you have to consciously pull it unlike a USB drive
[21:09] <Celerity> aw man
[21:10] <sney> it's not a full slot, just part of one
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[21:10] <sney> cases help
[21:10] <Celerity> I mean, I have the pi right now, but no full size cards to even test
[21:10] <Celerity> fair enough
[21:10] <Celerity> I might even try gluing a microsd adapter and just use microsd cards
[21:11] <ThirdEyeSurfer> that's a tuff love approach
[21:11] <Jusii> you can get 1/2 size micro adapter
[21:11] <Celerity> lol
[21:11] <Jusii> then you can't knock it out by accident
[21:11] <Jusii> https://www.modmypi.com/sd-cards-and-adaptors/raspberry-pi-micro-sd-card-adaptor
[21:11] <Celerity> I'll go to the store and check tomorrow for the 1/2 size adapter. thanks for the tip.
[21:12] <Jusii> not sure if they're all 'custom made', maybe not
[21:12] <Celerity> hey that's cool (but a bit expensive)
[21:12] <Jusii> that's just one model
[21:12] <mgottschlag> those adapters are specially made for the pi usually
[21:12] <Celerity> oh
[21:12] <Jusii> it's a bit pricey
[21:12] <Jusii> but there's alternatives
[21:12] <ThirdEyeSurfer> everything about pi is pricey
[21:12] <Celerity> because I'd never heard of a half uSD adapter before
[21:13] <Jusii> http://www.adafruit.com/products/1569
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[21:15] <raidensnake> I don't suppose anyone has the default config file settings for turbo mode
[21:15] <Jusii> looks like it's a mac thing too
[21:15] <Jusii> not just rpi
[21:16] <Jusii> http://www.ebay.com/itm/For-MacBook-Pro-Air-MicroSD-Card-Adapter-TF-to-Short-SD-Adapter-Support-64GB-/271382206816
[21:16] <Celerity> anyway I'll look at it soon
[21:16] <ThirdEyeSurfer> raidensnake, http://elinux.org/RPiconfig
[21:16] <Celerity> Is there a card capacity limit supported by the rpi?
[21:17] <Celerity> disregard ^
[21:18] <Celerity> 32GB
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[21:22] <raidensnake> doesn't reference the setting raspi-config sets though
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[21:24] <systemG3002> AWW YEAH
[21:24] <systemG3002> shiftplusone: thanks man, that did it! just had to add the user to audio
[21:24] <shiftplusone> systemG3002, hurray
[21:25] <ThirdEyeSurfer> raidensnake, check your /boot/config.txt
[21:25] <raidensnake> it only has one thing in it
[21:25] <raidensnake> to load the 3.12 kernel
[21:25] <ThirdEyeSurfer> ?
[21:25] <shiftplusone> raidensnake, for the ultra-lazy: "Turbo" "1000MHz ARM, 500MHz core, 600MHz SDRAM, 6 overvolt"
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[21:27] <shiftplusone> for the super-ultra lazy: arm_freq 1000 core_freq 500 sdram_freq 600 over_voltage 6
[21:28] <Jusii> there's still one step after that
[21:28] <shiftplusone> the governor
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[21:28] <Jusii> arnie
[21:28] <shiftplusone> =D
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[21:29] <ppq> no, thats the governator ;)
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[21:32] <raidensnake> ok here's a new one. my screen won't display at the full 1080p it's kinda shrunk with a black border. any suggestions?
[21:33] <mgottschlag> disable overscan
[21:36] <rikkib> overscan settings are in config.txt
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[21:37] <raidensnake> brb
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[22:09] <basti> i cant find any "clean up" function in wiringpi. can anyone give me a hint?
[22:10] <shiftplusone> What kind of clean up function are you after?
[22:11] <systemG3002> so i have a php script that exec()s and plays a sound. that part works.. but only sometimes. reloading the page doesn't ALWAYS play the sound.. anyone know what might be going on there?
[22:11] <basti> setting all gpios to low
[22:12] <Tududum> basti: write a loop?
[22:12] <shiftplusone> basti, that doesn't sound like clean up... that sounds like setting all gpios to low (though you should be setting them as inputs instead)
[22:12] <basti> i could do it with a workaround, but since python has this cleanup function, i thought wiringpi had this too
[22:12] <basti> or this shiftplusone
[22:12] <Tududum> It would probably be cleaner to read the state of the gpio when starting
[22:12] <Tududum> and on cleanup reset it to that instead of all low
[22:13] <basti> ok. i will give it a try
[22:13] <basti> thanks
[22:13] <shiftplusone> Neither approach really makes sense.
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[22:15] <Tududum> setting to low is dirtier I think, then just loading the library would have side effects
[22:15] <basti> another question: in the examples of wiringpi there is a function called softServoSetup, but i cant find any additional info about it. is this just planned to be implemented?
[22:15] <Tududum> bests is just to leave it as is I think
[22:16] <basti> nevermind. https://github.com/WiringPi/WiringPi/blob/master/wiringPi/softServo.c
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[22:33] <gordonDrogon> basti, no cleanup - as its not needed.
[22:34] <gordonDrogon> basti, DO NOT use the softServo code. it will burn out your servos.
[22:35] <gordonDrogon> it was written just to see if it would work - it does, but it suffers too much jitter.
[22:36] <gordonDrogon> basti, incidentally, the proper place to get wiringPi is http://wiringpi.com/ and https://git.drogon.net/
[22:36] <basti> i guess i will listen to you gordonDrogon
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[22:37] <gordonDrogon> the github one is not maintained by me and may be a revision or 2 older than the one on the git.drogon.net site.
[22:38] <basti> but on your site you say that it is to be installed via github
[22:38] <basti> http://wiringpi.com/download-and-install/
[22:38] <gordonDrogon> via git, not github
[22:38] <gordonDrogon> I maintain my own git server.
[22:38] <basti> i see
[22:41] <rikkib> gordonDrogon My latest creation... http://www.zlham.geek.nz/images/news/rpi-cam-mod.jpg
[22:42] <rikkib> 640 x 480 webcam using the camera module http://bencom.co.nz:8081
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[22:43] <IT_Sean> Impressive, green one.
[22:43] * IT_Sean keeps toying with getting a camera module, and setting it up as a webcam or something
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[22:46] <basti> rikkib, i guess your pi cant handle the users watching your feed now...
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[22:46] <basti> or your bandwith
[22:47] <rikkib> 100K bandwidth out...
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[22:49] <rikkib> NZ is hopeless, specially out in the country where I live with the telco not upgrading until they have to
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[22:50] <rikkib> Mean while they spend millions on high speed broadband (Wireless) to serve the farmers
[22:50] <rikkib> I live less than 300m from the exchange and still on copper
[22:51] <Tududum> Why cant you use the wireless?
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[22:52] <basti> if you want to do this permanently, upload this to another server. this way you only need the bandwidth once
[22:52] <rikkib> To far away I would guess
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[22:53] <rikkib> Sooner or later my bandwidth will be upgraded to FS/FS
[22:53] <rikkib> I really do not need big bandwidth anyway...
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[22:54] <Tududum> What software did u use for the webcam
[22:54] <rikkib> The cam is for the audience here basically... So people can look at my devel setup
[22:54] <rikkib> motion
[22:55] <rikkib> on the rpi and on my linux gateway
[22:55] <rikkib> that way when I run two or more cams I can agfrigate them at the gateway
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[22:56] <rikkib> So the RPi is inside my firewall
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[22:56] <rikkib> and motion running on my gateway takes the images from the internal ip
[22:57] <mrueg> Vialas: it looks like the ethernet / usb hw is just dead.
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[22:57] <mrueg> http://bpaste.net/show/MKJtTARNnSch7kNf45H8/
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[23:00] <ShorTie> rikkib, guess that beats my measuring cup https://www.dropbox.com/s/0sqwckhsq2xdekn/IMAG0001.JPG
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[23:01] <rikkib> cup cam
[23:01] <ShorTie> ya, lol.
[23:02] <rikkib> I wanted something to sit on my desk/shelf that I could tilt up and down hence the spring loaded hinge
[23:03] <ShorTie> that is just to play, i got some outdoor cases from monoprice to mount them in for outdoor use
[23:03] <rikkib> All the parts came from my junk box
[23:04] <ShorTie> nice junk box
[23:05] <ShorTie> just trying to figure out how to stream them to zoneminder now
[23:05] <rikkib> I have an old truck freezer (Container type door) in the front yard full of old junk
[23:06] <rikkib> Boxes of old electronics books
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[23:06] <ShorTie> you must be like me
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[23:07] <ShorTie> you never need it till you throw it away, so you keep everything
[23:07] <rikkib> Plus one of my clients is the biggest computer recycling outfit in NZ
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[23:08] <rikkib> Scrounged a Navman Jupiter 21 gps on Thursday...
[23:08] <smrtz|nix> Hey, is anyone here running raspbian, and willing to help me debug a script?
[23:08] <smrtz|nix> Please?
[23:08] <rikkib> Link?
[23:09] <ShorTie> most likely someone here could help if you state your problem better
[23:09] <smrtz|nix> rikkib: me?
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[23:10] <rikkib> u
[23:10] <basti> how can i install servoblaster (https://github.com/richardghirst/PiBits/tree/master/ServoBlaster ). i "gitted" the files, but there is no make function or anything. the readme does not tell
[23:10] <smrtz|nix> Well the script is at:http://bpaste.net/show/171820/
[23:11] <smrtz|nix> I'm geting permission errors about setting wlan0. Can someone else run it and tell me if it works for them please?
[23:12] <rikkib> You may need to run the script as root
[23:13] <smrtz|nix> rikkib: I've tried.
[23:13] <rikkib> Or use sudo
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[23:14] <smrtz|nix> see: http://pastebin.com/mFfP8rqQ
[23:14] <rikkib> Sorry both and python and wlan are things I am not familiar with
[23:14] <smrtz|nix> Ahh, no worries.
[23:15] <rikkib> Generally permission issues can be fixed with group permissions
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[23:15] <ShorTie> smrtz|nix, you got a screen and stuff hooked up or tunnin it headless ??
[23:15] <ShorTie> runnin*
[23:15] <smrtz|nix> headless
[23:15] <rikkib> So run the script as a user with the same group as the wlan
[23:16] <basti> smrtz|nix, do you have a wlan0 interface?
[23:16] <smrtz|nix> I'm running it as both pi, and after sudo su
[23:16] <smrtz|nix> basti: yes.
[23:16] <ShorTie> might be alot easier to set up tightvncserver and use the the desktop icon for all that
[23:17] <smrtz|nix> http://pastebin.com/R6f8QScb
[23:17] <smrtz|nix> I'm normally fine with consol imput.
[23:18] <basti> smrtz|nix, maybe this? http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=24615&p=263373
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[23:19] <smrtz|nix> thanks basti
[23:19] <linguini> I'd like to know when an audio jack is plugged into my pi. How can I detect this event programatically?
[23:20] <rikkib> You can't I do not think
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[23:21] <rikkib> You can route the audio to either hdmi or the audio jack but I have not seen anything about detecting the audio being used
[23:23] <linguini> I was hoping to use the event as a cheap and dirty switch. Perhaps I'll try something else.
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[23:25] <rikkib> I use unused resources of the RPi for switches. I2C ports have a pullup so I use these ports with a push button and a 560 ohm res
[23:25] <rikkib> to gnd
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[23:26] <rikkib> positive logic is better
[23:27] <rikkib> this overcomes issues on power up.
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[23:29] <linguini> rikkib: Thanks. I wish I understood that. I'm a programmer with pathetic knowledge of electronics.
[23:30] <linguini> I do see some solderable through holes on the board -- maybe I could create a switch with those...
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[23:30] <rikkib> Positive logic is where a pin is pulled up to +vcc (3.3v) and then switched low
[23:31] <rikkib> The issue shows up when you hook a relay to a controller
[23:32] <rikkib> When you power things up the relay pulses while powering up
[23:33] <rikkib> With positive logic the natural order means the relay does not pulse on at power up
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[23:34] <linguini> I see "P2 P3" next to one set of through-holes, and "R2 R3" next to another.
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[23:35] <Tryn> Any sub-$30 screens for the Pi that's 5" or less?
[23:35] <ShorTie> those thru holes are not really to be used, use the gpio header instead fo a switch
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[23:36] <ShorTie> sure Tryn, look for rear view tft lcd monitor
[23:36] <linguini> ShorTie: Not to be used? Odd.
[23:37] <ShorTie> got a 4.3" from amazon for like 20 bucks
[23:37] <linguini> Unfortunately, I have equipment to work with soldering; I don't think I have hardware for working with gpio pins.
[23:37] <rikkib> J5 next to the gpio on Rev 2 boards has another gpio ports that can be used
[23:37] <ShorTie> got a old floppy or hard drive cable ??
[23:38] <rikkib> I use computer jumper cables
[23:38] <ShorTie> ya, those could be used
[23:38] <linguini> Hmm. I may...
[23:39] <rikkib> the ones used to hook to the front panel leds etc
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[23:40] <rikkib> Witha small screw drive you can pull each individual wire connector out of the carrier
[23:40] <rikkib> mix and match
[23:41] <rikkib> most pc's have 1 2 3 4 and maybe 5 wire jumpers
[23:41] <rikkib> as seen on my cam
[23:41] <ShorTie> trim down the non-maker end of the floppy cable and it plugs on nicely with the red marker for pin 1
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[23:42] <ShorTie> and a little hot glue holds it all back together
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[23:43] <linguini> Are you talking about the power cables that go into drives in desktop systems?
[23:44] <linguini> The ones with 4 wires next to each other?
[23:45] <linguini> Or, do you mean the data cables for hard drives?
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[23:46] <ShorTie> data cable
[23:47] <rikkib> There are two types of cables that are of use for the RPi
[23:47] <ShorTie> 34 pin floppy or 40 pin hard drive
[23:47] <ShorTie> either would work
[23:47] <rikkib> as shortie said and the wires the go from mother boards to front panels of pc's
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[23:51] <ShorTie> if you got a old dead pc, the power or reset button would work for just a switch
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[23:53] <linguini> Ah, I think I know the cables you are talking about -- there are some in my computer (currently used). I might be able to find extra. They look like they /might/ fit on the pins on the pi.
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[23:57] <gordonDrogon> rikkib, that's somewhat "agricultural" ;-)
[23:58] <rikkib> define?
[23:58] <gordonDrogon> rikkib, the camera mount for your Pi you posted earlier...
[23:58] <rikkib> using pc front panel wires
[23:58] <gordonDrogon> rikkib, maybe you've not been on a farm...
[23:58] <rikkib> ahhh
[23:59] <rikkib> not from farming stock
[23:59] <gordonDrogon> where things are often over engineered - or welded together in a hurry :)
[23:59] <gordonDrogon> Heath-Robinson...

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