#raspberrypi IRC Log


IRC Log for 2014-01-28

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[0:00] <mildused> yes they are
[0:00] <mildused> i am jain
[0:00] <mildused> i am required to be vegan
[0:01] <Gorroth> No, you'er just part of a weird sect of jain.
[0:01] <Gorroth> It's not a general Jain thing.
[0:02] <shiftplusone> As with all religions, you can choose whatever precepts you wish to follow and how.
[0:02] <Gorroth> Hehe, except for Islam. Luckily, in that religion, the Quran is clear.
[0:03] <shiftplusone> I think it will dilute over time.
[0:03] <Gorroth> It hasn't for thousands of years yet.
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[0:03] <shiftplusone> but that's probably not a discussion for this channel
[0:03] <Gorroth> The Quran itself doesn't contain contradictions on itself, which is very important.
[0:03] <Gorroth> Yeah, I guess not.
[0:03] <Gorroth> I won't talk about it.
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[0:10] <mildused> anyone had luck with swagbucks?
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[0:27] <mildused> are there rpi scholarships?
[0:30] <[Saint]> mildused: ...what d you mean by that?
[0:30] <[Saint]> *do
[0:30] <mildused> swagbucks?
[0:30] <[Saint]> [12:27:36] <mildused> are there rpi scholarships?
[0:30] <mildused> oh
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[0:30] <mildused> is there a place i can apply for a scholarship for raspberry pi
[0:30] <mildused> 14 years old
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[0:31] <[Saint]> What do you mean "scholarship for raspberry pi"?
[0:31] <shiftplusone> a free raspberry pi
[0:31] <[Saint]> Ah, then, no.
[0:32] <[Saint]> Talk to your school, or local community center.
[0:32] <[Saint]> ...or your parents.
[0:32] <mildused> i have earned 8 dollars from app trailers, 10 dollars from swagbucks, 5 dollars from bing rewards
[0:32] <mildused> half way there
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[0:34] <mildused> any other places to learn?
[0:34] <mildused> earn *
[0:35] <[Saint]> There are these things some people have, or get, that gives them money.
[0:35] <[Saint]> Can't remember the word off the top of my head.
[0:35] <[Saint]> ...oh, that's right, "job". :)
[0:35] <mildused> i am 14
[0:35] <[Saint]> And?
[0:35] <mildused> no job
[0:36] <[Saint]> I was working at 13. Age isn't really relevant (to an extent).
[0:36] <[Saint]> I'm sure there are valid employment opportunities for you.
[0:37] <shiftplusone> but those require actually DOING something, [Saint]!
[0:37] <[Saint]> :)
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[0:39] <shiftplusone> When I was 10, we collected aluminium cans, as someone on here suggested. My brother sold newspapers and apples at that age. When we moved to Australia, we started with a newspaper route. Any of those options are better than anything you can do online.
[0:39] <[Saint]> Comalco Cans For Cash, huh?
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[0:39] <[Saint]> I remember that very well.
[0:39] <shiftplusone> But, if your parents don't want you to work, then it's kind of up to them.
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[0:40] <mildused> thats the thing
[0:40] <mildused> dad wants me to study
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[0:40] <[Saint]> Some may say your father's viewpoint is rather non-sane.
[0:41] <shiftplusone> Seems sensible to me. Plenty of time to get a job later.
[0:41] <mildused> have finished 16 ap courses already and am taking some college courses and he doesnt want me to work
[0:41] <mildused> as a freshman
[0:41] <[Saint]> Of course, it would be problematic if it affected your study, but not even trying is a little...gah.
[0:41] <[Saint]> There's no harm in *trying*.
[0:41] <mildused> all 5's got 36 on act and 2390 on sat
[0:42] <shiftplusone> yup, those sound like letters and numbers which probably make sense in America.
[0:42] <[Saint]> :)
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[0:42] <[Saint]> shiftplusone: yeah, I was thinking the same thing.
[0:44] <[Saint]> Talk to your father, mildused, see if he'll allow you the chance to juggle your schooling and work.
[0:45] <[Saint]> I would think most parents would be proud of the level of assumed responsibility.
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[0:45] <shiftplusone> wikipedia says 2390 is in the top 0.02%. If that's true, keep doing what your dad says, because it's working.
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[0:46] <[Saint]> Just make it clear that IFF your study suffers, you'll drop the job.
[0:46] <shiftplusone> ah, top 1% actually
[0:46] <[Saint]> IF you can manage both, why not?
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[0:47] <mildused> i tried but my dad says that there will be plenty of time to work after i get admitted into college and even then work will come way after school.
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[0:49] <mildused> btw an ap is a college credit you can take in high school. accredited colleges only take 5/5 on an ap exam which i got 16 of.. act and sat are tests to show your aptitude vs other students and ultimately get you admitted into college to use those ap credits
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[0:50] <Gorroth> mildused: Honestly, you already have a computer. If I were you, I would install a VM with debian (that's the closest to Raspbian) and start using that until you get an RPi.
[0:51] <mildused> but this monster hauls 300 watts
[0:51] <Gorroth> What kind of dad won't let their kid work when he turns 15? My dad was very happy to let me do that.
[0:51] <Gorroth> So? That isn't very much.
[0:51] <Gorroth> And you're using that computer right this moment.
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[0:53] <mildused> im sorry but for my dad education before work
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[0:59] <Gorroth> Just tell him that work is education.
[1:00] <shiftplusone> I don't expect any discussion to work. Parents can't be convinced they're wrong easily, even if they would be willing to listen.
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[1:00] <mildused> thank you @shiftplusone
[1:01] <mildused> someone understands out of everyone
[1:01] <mildused> how old are you?
[1:02] <Gorroth> Man, you have given up so easily.
[1:02] <shiftplusone> Well, I am 25, so I don't have these problems, heh.
[1:02] <Gorroth> If you were being bratty , I wouldn't support it, but since it would be to ask to work, I fully support annoying your parents over it.
[1:03] * [Saint] sides with Gorroth
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[1:04] <[Saint]> I can't see how a parent would view this as anything other than a good thing.
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[1:04] <[Saint]> Usually kids these days need a good kick in the bum to get them interested in earning.
[1:04] <Gorroth> Yeah, as long as it didn't mess up your grades.
[1:04] <Gorroth> Not me! I was all about working when I was 15 so I could get computer stuff.
[1:05] <Gorroth> I'm pretty sure I wasted $3500 like that.
[1:05] <[Saint]> Yeah, thats why i said IFF grades suffer, lose the job.
[1:05] <shiftplusone> man, you people are not familiar with having asian/russian/jewish/<other stereotype> parents.
[1:05] <Gorroth> Then I started slowly learning the value of the dollar over many years.
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[1:05] <[Saint]> If they dont...win.
[1:05] <Gorroth> WASP parents here
[1:06] <Gorroth> And I know a lot about Indian parents. I tried marrying several of their daughters.
[1:06] <[Saint]> shiftplusone: I'm not familiar with parents, period, really.
[1:06] <[Saint]> Not my own at least.
[1:07] <shiftplusone> Gorroth, heh, my ex is Indian. I am sure you have stumbled across parents who put education above all else. I know my ex's dad could not be reasoned into... well, anything.
[1:07] * [Saint] legally has no parents
[1:07] <[Saint]> emancipation FTW
[1:08] <shiftplusone> You're an interesting guy, [Saint]. No parents... attacked by a sword... O_o
[1:08] <Gorroth> shiftplusone: Yeah, like marrying a non-Indian, because we are somehow unable to adapt to their culture... yeah, I know about it.
[1:08] <Gorroth> Don't make me angry!! Lol
[1:08] <[Saint]> I /just/ miss out on being the youngest legally emancipated person in NZ.
[1:09] <[Saint]> By a few weeks iirc.
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[1:10] <Gorroth> I'm working on our game's sound engine, and the song that starts playing is "Raining Men"... *shivers*
[1:10] <[Saint]> shiftplusone: I've also been stabbed in the liver by a crazy ex ;-)
[1:10] <shiftplusone> sounds like she was a keeper
[1:11] <[Saint]> disclaimer: didn't know he was /that/ crazy.
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[1:12] <[Saint]> My doctor joked with me that I must be magnetic.
[1:12] <shiftplusone> he? ah, the plot thickens, heh.
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[1:13] <[Saint]> I'm trysexual. Sexual? Tried it. :)
[1:14] <shiftplusone> Yeah, figured
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[1:32] <oy1r\mm> i setup vlc to autostart (once) but vlc starts up with 10 or 15 or more instances
[1:32] <oy1r\mm> anyone know why ?
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[1:33] <shiftplusone> how did you set it up to autostart and how do you know there are multiple instances running.
[1:34] <pksato> oy1r\mm: put vlc call on bashrc?
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[1:37] <oy1r\mm> i made /home/Rpi/.config/autostart/vlc.desktop
[1:37] <oy1r\mm> [Desktop Entry]
[1:37] <oy1r\mm> Type=Application
[1:37] <oy1r\mm> Exec=/home/pi/start_feh.sh
[1:37] <oy1r\mm> Exec= VLC
[1:37] <oy1r\mm> or vlc
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[1:38] <oy1r\mm> the pi is highly unresponcive at the moment, looks like here are multiple instances of everything running according to htop
[1:39] <shiftplusone> are you sure they're not just threads?
[1:39] <shiftplusone> in htop display options, select the two hide threads options
[1:39] <oy1r\mm> i hear multiple streams playing
[1:40] <shiftplusone> ah, that's pretty clear then
[1:40] <oy1r\mm> exec vlc /home/pi/desktop/playlist.m3u
[1:40] <oy1r\mm> the playlist is playing many many times not sure how many instances of vlc are running.
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[1:41] <pksato> On start_feh.sh, check if not have a vlc runnig.
[1:41] <pksato> pidof can help.
[1:42] <oy1r\mm> 100% cpu. 418Mb/486mb and 99Mb/99Mb usage
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[1:42] <shiftplusone> vlc also has an option to only allow a single instance, but I think the right thing to do is find out why multiple are launched in the first place.
[1:43] <oy1r\mm> same with tightvnc it has multiple instances running
[1:43] <pksato> that have on start_feh.sh ? ah... its is another thing.
[1:43] <shiftplusone> what starts rightvnc?
[1:43] <shiftplusone> *tightvnc
[1:44] <oy1r\mm> that´s /home/Rpi/.config/autostart/vnc.desktop
[1:44] <shiftplusone> well, there's your problem
[1:44] <oy1r\mm> [Desktop Entry]
[1:44] <pksato> oh... loop bomb. :)
[1:44] <shiftplusone> every time the DE starts, you run VNC, which starts a DE, which runs VNC.... rince, repeat
[1:44] <shiftplusone> *rinse
[1:45] <oy1r\mm> oK!
[1:45] <oy1r\mm> hehe
[1:45] <oy1r\mm> is there a way around it ?
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[1:45] <shiftplusone> what do you need vnc for? to see the actual display connected to the pi or a virtual display?
[1:45] <pksato> oy1r\mm: you want to connect a X11 session remotely?
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[1:52] <oy1r\mm> back, on a ship and did a 180, went trought a blind spot on the vsat.
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[1:52] <oy1r\mm> i need the pi in a remote location that´s why i want vnc.
[1:53] <shiftplusone> does the pi itself have a screen attached to it and you want to see what is on THAT screen. Or do you simply want to run an X session independent of what's physically attached to the pi?
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[1:54] <oy1r\mm> no screen connected to the pi
[1:54] <shiftplusone> Then x11vnc is the way to go, not tightvnc
[1:54] <oy1r\mm> only power, ethernet and audio out.
[1:54] <oy1r\mm> ok
[1:56] <shiftplusone> but that doesn't answer your questions on how to start it automatically
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[1:56] <pksato> if is a headless, dont need to start a real X11. just replace xserver for tightvnc.
[1:56] <shiftplusone> wait... scratch what I said, I am an idiot
[1:56] <shiftplusone> yes, tightvnc is what you want, sorry.
[1:57] <pksato> you can use alternatives to swap xserver.
[1:57] <oy1r\mm> hehe ok, but i guess i have to start it some other way yes ?
[1:57] <shiftplusone> pksato, that simple?
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[1:58] <pksato> dont know, I never need to replace default xserver.
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[1:59] <shiftplusone> If that doesn't work, there are plenty of other options. I am afraid I can't recommend any specific alternative over the other and the way I would do it is probably not the simplest.
[2:00] <pksato> no alternatives for xserver on my debian box.
[2:01] <pksato> or replacing /etc/X11/X link.
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[2:56] <oy1r\mm> so what can i do to get around that VNC loop ?
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[2:58] <hugogee> o1r\mm, use terminal :P
[2:58] <hugogee> oops oy1r\mm
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[3:08] <[Saint]> hugogee: protip - IRC Tab-completion.
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[3:09] <[Saint]> If your client can't do it, get a new one.
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[3:13] <hugogee> Saint, it can i just... ;P
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[3:16] * hugogee is just not a dang pro
[3:16] <shiftplusone> Hmm... putting my university textbooks up for sale at a fraction of what I paid for them. If they get sold, it will be at least a grand altogether... No idea I wasted so much money on terrible textbooks. O_o
[3:17] <ShorTie> good luck
[3:17] <shiftplusone> Doubt I'll sell more than a few, as most of them aren't used any more.
[3:17] <shiftplusone> And the ones that are, are actually good and I would like to keep.
[3:17] <hugogee> Sad
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[3:19] <SirLagz> shiftplusone: that's how universities make their money.
[3:19] <SirLagz> overinflated textbooks.
[3:19] <ShorTie> you have to almost sell them as sonn as your done with the class
[3:20] * [Saint] nods
[3:20] <shiftplusone> Yeah, I've goofed there
[3:20] <[Saint]> I just torrented my textbooks, and bought a tablet with the book money.
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[3:20] <shiftplusone> I used to do that for the first few years, but then stopped for whatever reason
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[3:20] <SirLagz> they're good home defense weapons though. a couple of heavy uni textbooks to the head will drop most people.
[3:20] <shiftplusone> heh
[3:21] <SirLagz> can't be accused of keeping a weapon at home either.
[3:21] <hugogee> reading on the screen is eventually more costly on eyes
[3:21] <SirLagz> hugogee: true. that's why i still like paperback books and manuals.
[3:21] <[Saint]> A friend of mine had a gift wrapped baseball bat by the door for just that purpose.
[3:21] <SirLagz> not a fan of all the e-documentation nowadays
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[3:21] <[Saint]> His theory was he could argue he didn't know what it was, justifying using it as a defensive weapon.
[3:21] <SirLagz> [Saint]: lol. so he can plausibly deny that it was a weapon ?
[3:22] <SirLagz> bahahaha
[3:22] <SirLagz> awesome
[3:22] <SirLagz> i have a socket extension bar next to my bed. it's for reaching to get things under the bed.
[3:22] <hugogee> hehe
[3:22] * [Saint] has a large bed-knife.
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[3:23] <[Saint]> Never kow when you might have to shank up a dust bunny.
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[3:23] <[Saint]> *kow
[3:23] <hugogee> my mastiff handles that part of the show
[3:23] * [Saint] only has kitties
[3:23] <SirLagz> bed-knife ?
[3:23] <hugogee> hehe
[3:23] <hugogee> i have seen a fiesty cat or two in my days
[3:23] <SirLagz> is that like a knife embedded in the bed ? lol
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[3:24] <[Saint]> Typical "under the mattress" style.
[3:24] <SirLagz> ah haha
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[3:24] <[Saint]> I've been a bit nervous ever since having been involved in a home invasion.
[3:24] <SirLagz> oo...ouch.
[3:24] <hugogee> that sucks, get a dog homie
[3:24] <hugogee> or two, or three
[3:24] <[Saint]> Its probably a bad idea. Presented with the same circumstance again, I would almost certainly use it in defense.
[3:24] <[Saint]> ...which may be bad.
[3:25] <[Saint]> But rather them than I, next time. If there is one.
[3:25] <SirLagz> indeedy
[3:26] <SirLagz> fudgestickes...i really need to get some work done =/
[3:26] <hugogee> [Saint]: sorry to hear that. try to find the positive otherwise that shit will stay longer than need be.
[3:26] <SirLagz> bbl
[3:26] <hugogee> l8r
[3:26] * SirLagz hides irc
[3:26] * shiftplusone pings SirLagz
[3:27] * [Saint] shifts a pinged lag....Sir, or, ...something.
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[3:28] <shiftplusone> Hmm... seems like Stephen King co-authored a book on macroeconomics... go figure.
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[3:29] <[Saint]> He's written a LOT of seemingly obscure stuff under different names.
[3:29] <ShorTie> must be electrofrying
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[3:30] <[Saint]> Oy...there's really Angry Birds cartoons?
[3:30] <[Saint]> Eeeeek.
[3:30] <[Saint]> It shouldn't surprise me. A local department store has Angry Birds licensed HDMI cables.
[3:31] <[Saint]> One of the weirder ones I have seen were Angry Birds NFC tags.
[3:32] <[Saint]> My bank offers a licensed Angry Birds VISA credit/debit card too.
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[3:40] <shiftplusone> Hmm... to keep my five-volume set of awesome physics textbooks or nay.
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[3:40] <shiftplusone> I guess I still refer to it and I haven't gone through it entirely yet, and it's an awesome set of books. It stays. >.>
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[3:42] <ShorTie> life revolves on Physics, it's hard to get ride of
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[3:43] <shiftplusone> Some chemists and biologists would probably disagree D=
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[3:47] <ShorTie> but we can live without them
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[5:20] <TheEmpath> I'm having unlimited difficulty setting up audio on my raspberry pi
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[5:22] <TheEmpath> are there any useful tutorials on how to debug audio for alsa and pulseaudio?
[5:22] <TheEmpath> i've been working on this problem for a week and every time i solve one part of it, two more bugs happen
[5:22] <shiftplusone> sounds like alsa alright
[5:22] <shiftplusone> doing something exotic?
[5:23] <TheEmpath> I have a USB device that has a microphone and a sound output plugged into it
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[5:24] <TheEmpath> i like to think i've set them up as the system default for output and input, but of course, theres nothing explaining how to do that reliably or how to confirm that
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[5:27] <TheEmpath> here's a git of the alsa-info.sh output https://gist.github.com/CodeOtter/42140660c4a957e19427
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[5:27] <TheEmpath> says pulse audio isn't running
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[5:32] <TheEmpath> if I try to run pulseaudo as a service, i get a warning
[5:32] <TheEmpath> if I run it as pulseaudio -D, its running, but no sound comes out
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[5:33] <shiftplusone> Over the years I've learned that linux audio is black magic and if it isn't working, trying to sort it out is never worth the effort. Hopefully I am wrong.
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[5:35] <TheEmpath> yeah, I can see how one can get to that conclusion
[5:35] <TheEmpath> I'm experimenting with pocketsphinx which is why i care, otherwise, i dont need its sound driver at all
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[5:36] <TheEmpath> im going to disable the onboard PCM and focus entirely on the USB and figure out whats going on from there
[5:49] <TheEmpath> k i've reduced the amount of interfaces there are, but still, no sound https://gist.github.com/CodeOtter/42140660c4a957e19427
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[5:50] <TheEmpath> as you can see, the playback and record switches are on and are damn near maxed out
[5:50] <TheEmpath> i tihnk the problem exists in the /etc/asound.conf
[5:50] <shiftplusone> TheEmpath, I am using pasystray and pavucontrol to manage pulse. Have you tried changing the default sink and such?
[5:51] <TheEmpath> not sure how.. im all console btw, no GUI
[5:51] <shiftplusone> yeah, that's why I haven't mentioned it
[5:51] <shiftplusone> but it might be worth making things easier on yourself
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[5:56] <nerdboy> TheEmpath: the onboard audio sometimes needs a little setup help
[5:56] <nerdboy> works fine with a basic alsa config
[5:57] <nerdboy> you probably also need to set hdmi_drive to something other than "auto"
[5:57] <nerdboy> also the amixer routing
[5:58] <nerdboy> i had to shoehorn several settings and make an alsa-state package to get audio working out-of-the-box in the oe build
[5:58] <TheEmpath> yeah i've monkyed about with all of that
[5:59] <nerdboy> also install a basic asound.conf
[5:59] <nerdboy> with all of that, it works with mpd just fine
[6:00] <nerdboy> usb-audio is still a bit weird and i'm not sure why yet
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[6:05] <TheEmpath> reverted back to a basic conf, since i dont use the onbaord PCM, i dont have the HDMI issue
[6:05] <TheEmpath> amixer routing?
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[6:10] <TheEmpath> if i try pulseaudio --system i get this error: GID of user 'pulse' and of group 'pulse' don't match.
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[6:26] <TheEmpath> sigh.. now when i try aplay, i get : aplay: set_params:1087: Channels count non available
[6:26] <TheEmpath> the misery never ends with this
[6:26] <TheEmpath> my raspberry pi is so bored with trying to deal with audio, its giving me errors with typos in them
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[6:32] <TheEmpath> sigh... this is so needly complicated, why does linux screw up audio so horribly?
[6:32] <TheEmpath> needlessly*
[6:34] <nerdboy> it's not as smooth on embedded?
[6:35] <nerdboy> yeah, the native pi audio has both analog and digital, so the mixer routing sets one or the other
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[6:37] <TheEmpath> and you set that with amixer cset numid=X 1
[6:37] <TheEmpath> but if you are using USB and have turned off the onboard sound, does that matter?
[6:37] <nerdboy> shouldn't
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[6:38] <nerdboy> usb audio typically has no mixer controls anyway
[6:39] <TheEmpath> this one does
[6:39] <TheEmpath> but its playback and recording volume and switches
[6:39] <TheEmpath> 4 controls total
[6:39] <TheEmpath> oh and auto gain contorl
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[6:39] <nerdboy> in a working desktop with pulse, usb-audio should Just Work
[6:40] <TheEmpath> desktop, ya
[6:40] <TheEmpath> pure terminal server-only... not so much
[6:40] <nerdboy> does your device use the usb-audio driver or its own?
[6:40] <TheEmpath> ya the speaker-test works
[6:40] <TheEmpath> i can get auto out of the USB
[6:41] <TheEmpath> its just the ALSA drivers having arcane configuration with the pulseaudio datacenter/personal internet it needs to route audio about and then configuring that without a masters in quantum physics
[6:41] <TheEmpath> thats where the disaster starts
[6:41] <TheEmpath> have you seen how pulse audio works?
[6:42] <TheEmpath> its like a convoluted nexus of unrelated APIs
[6:42] <nerdboy> been messing with pulse and multiple devices since way back
[6:42] <nerdboy> but pulse has been stable-ish for a while
[6:42] <TheEmpath> i think i get the gist of how ALSA works
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[6:43] <TheEmpath> but pulse.... gaahhh
[6:43] <TheEmpath> and hte only reason i need to use pulse is because pocketsphinx compiles with it by default
[6:43] <TheEmpath> otherwise i'd just use the plain Alsa
[6:43] <nerdboy> does it have configure options?
[6:43] <TheEmpath> it may, but i can't find anything that lets it use pure alsa
[6:44] <nerdboy> jack?
[6:45] <TheEmpath> dunno if pocket will play nice with that
[6:45] <nerdboy> for pulse i pretty much just use the gui
[6:46] <nerdboy> maybe i should try building an image with pulseaudio
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[6:47] <TheEmpath> not a bad idea :D
[6:49] <nerdboy> one of the main points of my meta-raspberrypi fork-turned-separate-layer was a lightweight desktop
[6:49] <nerdboy> there are already qt and gnome demo images
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[6:53] <nerdboy> maybe something with pulse and xfce...
[6:53] <TheEmpath> i've purged alsa and pulseaudio and am starting over
[6:53] <TheEmpath> trying to stay as default as possible
[6:53] <TheEmpath> and seeing if i can get pocketsphinx to play with alsa
[6:53] <TheEmpath> it sucks beause i had it working once and then, it just stopped :/
[6:54] <nerdboy> raspbian?
[6:54] <TheEmpath> ya
[6:54] <TheEmpath> goddamn it, same error
[6:55] <TheEmpath> aplay: set_params:1087: Channels count non available
[6:55] <TheEmpath> arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh wtf
[6:56] <TheEmpath> arecord works just fine
[6:56] <TheEmpath> aplay is giving me this channels nonsense
[6:56] <TheEmpath> yet speaker-test works fine
[6:56] <TheEmpath> s;kdfjgls;kdfgj
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[7:09] <TheEmpath> oh man wat
[7:09] <TheEmpath> aplay test.wav -vv -D plughw:0,0 works
[7:09] <TheEmpath> plughw:0,0
[7:10] <TheEmpath> how do i make plughq:0,0 my default playback? :X
[7:11] <Jusii> in alsa conf
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[7:11] <Jusii> i'd guess, not really expert with sound and definitely with alsa...
[7:13] <TheEmpath> haha!
[7:14] <TheEmpath> asound.conf
[7:14] <TheEmpath> pcm.plug0.type= plug; pcm.plug0.slave.pcm= "hw:0,0"
[7:14] <TheEmpath> bamf
[7:14] <TheEmpath> now time to reboot the pi to make sure it all works.. then to recompile pocketsphinx!
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[7:18] <TheEmpath> and we are back to broken again
[7:18] <TheEmpath> amazing
[7:19] <TheEmpath> ALSA lib pcm_hw.c:1401:(_snd_pcm_hw_open) Invalid value for card
[7:19] <TheEmpath> every 15 minutes, a new error, or your money back!
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[7:26] <Jusii> :)
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[7:28] <TheEmpath> i just can't understand how something as solved as audio cannot be handled by something as amazing as Linux
[7:28] <TheEmpath> i just don't get how the community managed to screw this up so horrifically
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[7:29] <nerdboy> the asound.conf is simple
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[7:31] <TheEmpath> it is!
[7:31] <TheEmpath> thats whats killing me
[7:31] <TheEmpath> its so damned simple and yet
[7:31] <TheEmpath> like right now... when i set it to use hw:0,0, it worked until i rebooted it
[7:31] <nerdboy> does raspbian have a module config?
[7:32] <TheEmpath> then something decided to go "HEY YOU KNOW THAT USB DEVICE THATA HAS ALWAYS BEEN AT HW:0,0????? let's move it to hw:1,0 and tell no one KEKEKEKEKE"
[7:32] <nerdboy> alias char-major-116 snd and so on
[7:33] <nerdboy> maybe try just hw instead of plughw
[7:34] <nerdboy> https://github.com/sarnold/meta-raspberrypi/blob/master/recipes-bsp/alsa-state/alsa-state/raspberrypi/asound.conf
[7:34] <nerdboy> works for me...
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[7:40] <TheEmpath> hw had no pluck, but plughw did
[7:40] <TheEmpath> but for whatever reason, the OS decided to move the card number?
[7:40] <TheEmpath> i dont even
[7:40] <TheEmpath> but it appears to work fresh off a reboot now
[7:40] <TheEmpath> so thanks for being a soundful sounding board :D
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[8:24] <Gorroth> Linux master race reporting for duty
[8:26] <x_pathOgen> ^ :)
[8:28] <Gorroth> hehehe
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[10:01] <edjuh> Gorroth++
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[11:01] <amigojapan> just curious, is there any way to connect to the internet using a SIM card? something like what this project promissed http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/08/raspberry-pi-and-arduino-to-get-cellular-access-with-sim-card-add-on/
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[11:02] <SpeedEvil> amigojapan: yes
[11:02] <nid0> many usb 3g dongles work fine
[11:02] <amigojapan> ah thanks nid0 , I will google that
[11:02] <SpeedEvil> Also - people like the above need stabbed in the face.
[11:03] <SpeedEvil> Oh - right - global roaming is a bit different.
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[11:04] <SpeedEvil> But there http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SIM900-Standard-Tech-Wireless-GPRS-Quad-Band-GSM-GPRS-Module-For-Arduino-New-/111230451108?pt=UK_BOI_Electrical_Components_Supplies_ET&hash=item19e5d9fda4
[11:04] <SpeedEvil> for example
[11:04] <SpeedEvil> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ADAPTER-MODULE-SIMCOM-SIM900-GSM-GPRS-Quad-Band-Chip-Wireless-/151215108497?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item23351f7191 on a breakout
[11:05] <amigojapan> let me see SpeedEvil
[11:08] <amigojapan> now I just need to figure out how to get them easily in Japan... but thanks guys
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[11:09] <SpeedEvil> Oh - japan is wierd
[11:09] <SpeedEvil> IIRC GPRS modems don't work
[11:09] <amigojapan> oh
[11:09] <SpeedEvil> Theabove cellular thingy will not work
[11:09] <SpeedEvil> the one you mentioned
[11:09] <SpeedEvil> (as I understand it)
[11:10] <SpeedEvil> however - USB-internet sticks of any form - with an adequate power supply - bought locally - should work just fine
[11:10] <SpeedEvil> (If there are linux drivers)
[11:10] <amigojapan> thanks
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[11:21] <edjuh> is there an issue with raspbian and git which causes empty repository warnings
[11:21] <edjuh> Or am I to nooby on git ?
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[11:27] <gordonDrogon> I've not noticed, but I'm no git expert myself.
[11:30] <edjuh> gordon, what happens if you do .. git clone https://code.google.com/p/hamsatarduino/
[11:30] <edjuh> the response here is :
[11:30] <edjuh> Cloning into 'hamsatarduino'...
[11:30] <edjuh> warning: You appear to have cloned an empty repository.
[11:30] <shiftplusone> not a raspbian issue
[11:31] <shiftplusone> As you can see, the warning is not lying https://code.google.com/p/hamsatarduino/source/browse/#git
[11:32] <shiftplusone> they're just hosting binaries
[11:32] <shiftplusone> actually, I should open the rar before saying that
[11:32] <edjuh> hmmmzzz, I see, thanks for pointing that out
[11:33] <ppq> rar is binary :p
[11:33] * shiftplusone slaps ppq
[11:33] <shiftplusone> I see some code in there and some binaries... no idea if the code is complete.
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[11:34] <gordonDrogon> edjuh, warning: You appear to have cloned an empty repository.
[11:34] <gordonDrogon> that's not to a Pi though, but to a Debian Linux x86 system.
[11:34] <edjuh> it is complete, code.google is just not git-alike enough, but as stated it is not raspbian related
[11:34] <edjuh> gordonDrogon: eh, correct
[11:35] <shiftplusone> edjuh, git-alike? O_o
[11:36] <edjuh> shiftplusone: _ass_umption there, have to investigate
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[11:39] <edjuh> weird, gordon's git works perfectly
[11:40] <shiftplusone> why is that weird? O_o
[11:40] <edjuh> oh well, like religions work, once has to keep wonders .... Coffee for everyone, just pass me the cups.
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[11:41] <edjuh> shiftplusone: it is weird (to me) because I do not understand what is different.
[11:41] <shiftplusone> the repo you linked has nothing in it
[11:42] <edjuh> ofcourse Gordon's is perfect
[11:42] <shiftplusone> gordon's repo has everything in it
[11:42] <shiftplusone> that's the difference
[11:42] <edjuh> ok ok ( you're tough )
[11:42] <shiftplusone> O_o
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[11:43] <edjuh> I do not understand why people make empty repo's. That would be ... unclever.
[11:43] <shiftplusone> They generally don't, but that guy did.
[11:45] <edjuh> well, it was the third in a row I encountered, that's why I started wondering if it was a 'general' issue
[11:45] <shiftplusone> ah, makes sense
[11:46] <edjuh> uhuh, I am generally not as stupid as my children look
[11:46] <edjuh> (very bad translation of a dutch proverb)
[11:47] <shiftplusone> heh... proverb translations are strange.
[11:48] <edjuh> this one is rebuild as well, but you can grasp its intention
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[12:13] <AlterDim> Hi all. I'm trying to ssh into my Pi over ethernet. I keep getting "Permission denied (publickey,keyboard-interactive)." though my password is correct, it prompts thrice for the password before the error. Am I doing something wrong?
[12:16] <ShorTie> wrong user name password combo
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[12:17] <AlterDim> ShorTie: I tried hooking up the Pi to a display and using the same username/password combo seems to work there.
[12:18] <ppq> AlterDim: try 'ssh user@hostname' instead of 'ssh hostname'
[12:18] <ppq> otherwise your current username on the client machine is used
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[12:20] <AlterDim> ppq: Yeah, I did. Still no luck
[12:20] <AlterDim> http://dpaste.com/1573559/
[12:20] <AlterDim> ^ That's the -v output of the ssh cmd.
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[12:24] <ShorTie> is this just from a command line from another pc or are you using some kind of ssh client like putty ??
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[12:24] <AlterDim> ShorTie: Its from the commandline on my mac
[12:25] <ShorTie> maybe you need a ssh client to intialize the connection correctly then
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[12:28] <shiftplusone> ShorTie, ssh works the same way from a mac
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[12:29] <ShorTie> sorry, i have always just used a ssh client, never just from the command line
[12:30] <shiftplusone> ah
[12:30] <AlterDim> Could it be something with the keys?
[12:30] <klock> the whole point of a protocol is that it all works the same way
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[12:32] <shiftplusone> AlterDim, it could be anything. Are you trying to use a key with a passphrase, a simple password login or what?
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[12:33] <AlterDim> I've got a key with a passphrase on my mac, yes.
[12:34] <AlterDim> So, Should I pass it along when i'm trying to ssh? I'm not sure how it works
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[12:35] <ShorTie> whelp, from 1 pi to another using your 'ssh -v' gives 'The authenticity of host ' (' can't be established.'
[12:36] <shiftplusone> I am not sure what's you're doing exactly.
[12:36] <shiftplusone> AlterDim, did you copy the public key to the pi at any stage?
[12:36] <AlterDim> No I didn't
[12:36] <shiftplusone> when you try to ssh, does it ask you for the key passphrase or just for the password?
[12:37] <AlterDim> It just asks for the password
[12:37] <shiftplusone> what use are you logging in as?
[12:37] <shiftplusone> do you have access to the pi at all right now?
[12:38] <AlterDim> Yes, I do have access to the Pi.
[12:38] <shiftplusone> check /var/log/auth.log on your pi
[12:39] <AlterDim> Okay, here's what I'm doing. I've connected the Pi to my mac using a ethernet cable, and I've assigned a static IP to the Pi from my mac, and I'm trying to ssh into the pi
[12:39] <shiftplusone> so... you've introduced 100 other things that can go wrong =(
[12:40] <AlterDim> shiftplusone: I'm sorry :/ I thought that was they way to go about it?
[12:40] <shiftplusone> it is
[12:40] <AlterDim> Even removing the static IP and making it obtain the IP dynamically, i get the same result
[12:41] <AlterDim> So, I'm guessing the ip isn't the issue here
[12:41] <shiftplusone> well, it's asking for the password, so presumably that side of things is ok. otherwise you'd be getting no route to host or something
[12:41] <AlterDim> Yeah
[12:41] <shiftplusone> I think you should check /var/log/auth.log
[12:42] <AlterDim> Right. I need a minute, I'll have to hook it up to a display and check the log
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[12:46] <ShorTie> so how did you get into the pi from your mac to change the ip address to static if done thru a 'I've connected the Pi to my mac using a ethernet cable,' ??
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[12:58] <AlterDim> ShorTie: I had to manually add a line to cmdline.txt that was in the SD, I followed a tutorial somewhere on it, and also I changed the Ethernet settings on the mac
[13:00] <ShorTie> whelp, if you in cmdline.txt changing stuff, i would guess that is your problem
[13:00] <AlterDim> shiftplusone: I could only grab a picture of the log file, I hope it is of some help. http://puu.sh/6BfRe.jpg
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[13:01] <bigx> hi there
[13:01] <AlterDim> ShorTie: Right. Like I already mentioned, reverting it to obtain IP dynamically without changing anything in cmdline.txt also leads to the same error
[13:01] <AlterDim> and I'm guessing the issue isn't there.
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[13:02] <shiftplusone> AlterDim, I tend to agree with you on that one, given that the connection attempt gets through and the failure is on the auth step.
[13:03] <ShorTie> ssh works just fine from a un-altered raspbian image
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[13:03] <shiftplusone> AlterDim, I don't want to stress this point too much, but are you 1000% sure you have the right password?
[13:04] <ShorTie> i would re-image the card and start over if me
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[13:05] <shiftplusone> AlterDim, one thing to try... on the pi, run ssh pi@localhost and see if it can connect to itself.... no idea what that would show, but it's a data point.
[13:05] <AlterDim> shiftplusone: "123456" it is. I think I'm managing to type a bunch of numbers right. :P so, yes its correct.
[13:05] <AlterDim> Yeah, thats a good point. I'll try that.
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[13:10] <AlterDim> shiftplusone: Its able to connect to itselft, yes. ssh pi@localhost works
[13:11] <shiftplusone> did you fiddle with sshd_config?
[13:11] <AlterDim> Nope
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[13:55] <MProg> hi _o/
[13:56] <MProg> is there a way to set the intra refresh period in the v4l2 driver (with v4l2-ctl) ?
[13:57] <MProg> like the "--intra, -g Specify the intra refresh period (key frame rate/GoP)" option in raspivid
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[14:19] <AlterDim> shiftplusone: Wiped the SD clean, reinstalled Raspbian, and tried to ssh again. Same error :/ "Permission denied (publickey,keyboard-interactive)." Its a clean install.
[14:20] <shiftplusone> Didn't expect anything different
[14:21] <AlterDim> I don't know what to make of it. Do you have any thoughts?
[14:21] <shiftplusone> not a clue, unfortunately
[14:21] <ShorTie> got any other pc then that mac you could try from ??
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[14:21] <AlterDim> ShorTie: No :/
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[14:24] <jerd> Afternoon :) I'm was wondering dwm on a Raspberry Pi :)
[14:24] <ShorTie> whelp, ssh works fine from a fresh image for like everone else, so i'm thinkin it must be a mac thing
[14:24] <jerd> dwm is a window manager, very minimal
[14:25] <AlterDim> ShorTie: Since I've successfully ssh-ed into a lot of computers from this same mac, I'm guessing the issue is more inclined to the ssh-keys rather than the mac itself.
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[14:27] <nid0> you should have no keys involved on a clean install
[14:27] <ShorTie> might try this http://codingsteps.com/installing-and-using-putty-on-mac-os-x/
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[14:31] <ShorTie> the ssh keys are generated when you start ssh on the pi for the first time, you may need to capture those keys and add them to the mac some how
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[14:32] <ShorTie> but i'm grasping at straws
[14:32] <AlterDim> ShorTie: Uhm, Is it that complicated?
[14:33] <AlterDim> Should I instead generate a fresh pair of keys on my computer and try?
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[14:34] <ShorTie> i have no idea, but like i said when you start ssh on the pi the first time it generates the keys it uses
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[14:37] <edjuh> ssh-copy-id etc
[14:38] <edjuh> do read the extra manpages
[14:38] <edjuh> no need to generate a new pair, or you should consider it an excercise
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[14:43] <AlterDim> I'm at a dead end here. I don't know whats wrong. -_- Thanks for all the help anyway guys!
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[15:05] <edjuh> 1 advice, never give up, just read the net and try try try
[15:09] <AlterDim> Yeah :) Thanks.
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[16:33] <rooftopjoe> hi. can anyone here who has experience with the Arduino tell me what the purpose of having a GertBoard or a GertDuino? what is the advantage of using one of these over having a separate Arduino board?
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[16:35] <Tachyon`> it's not just an arduino
[16:35] <Tachyon`> if all you want is an arduino then by all means buy one
[16:35] <Tachyon`> the software is packaged in raspbian
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[16:35] <rooftopjoe> Tachyon`: then what else is it, other than the fact that it's an Arduino dependent on the RPi?
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[16:36] <Tachyon`> http://dlnmh9ip6v2uc.cloudfront.net/datasheets/Dev/RPi/Gertboard_UM_with_python.pdf
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[16:36] <Tachyon`> the manual, it contains an overview of the board among other things
[16:39] <Tachyon`> but in a nutshell, it has a motor driver, 6 relay drivers, a2d, d2a, 3 buttons, 12 leds with buffered outputs, 24 lines of I/O from the arduino which can obviously be realtime and in the case of mine, 10 switches in the prototype area
[16:40] <rooftopjoe> okay but why does it need to be a RPi extension and not a separate board? If anything, isn't that less flexible?
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[16:55] <rooftopjoe> i don't know about the gertboard but the gertduino seems to be usable on its own
[16:55] <rooftopjoe> i guess it's a form factor thing
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[17:21] <gordonDrogon> rooftopjoe, I have both Gertboards and Gertduino ...
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[17:22] <rooftopjoe> and what do you think? are they rpi extensions as a matter of convienience (easy to connect them)?
[17:22] <gordonDrogon> the gertboard was intended as a "safe" way to interface the Pi to "stuff". Also to introduce people to Atmega/Arduino.
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[17:23] <rooftopjoe> oh, safe too
[17:23] <gordonDrogon> I'm slightly biased as I've written software/interfaces for both though.
[17:23] <gordonDrogon> the Gertboard has buffers to help protect the Pi...
[17:23] <gordonDrogon> as well as the extra stuff like a motor driver, a/d d/a, buttons and leds.
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[17:23] <gordonDrogon> the atmega part of it is almost an added bonus...
[17:24] <gordonDrogon> my suspicion is that a lot of people might not even use the atmega side of the gertboard, but its hard to know.
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[17:25] <gordonDrogon> The gertboard was one of the early interface boards for the Pi.
[17:25] <gordonDrogon> it allowed (and still allows) people to get into easy interfacing without the fear of blowing up their Pi.
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[17:25] <rooftopjoe> right. so it's arduino + modules that easily and safely interface with the RPi :)
[17:25] <IT_Sean> Bingo.
[17:25] <rooftopjoe> what about the gertduino? is that just a successor?
[17:26] <gordonDrogon> the arduino part of the Gertboard is relatively separate and standalone to it.
[17:26] <gordonDrogon> the Gertduino is a ful Arduino compatible board for the Pi.
[17:26] <gordonDrogon> it can take Arduino shields, works at 5v just like any other Arduino.
[17:26] <rooftopjoe> meaning it's useful for existing libraries
[17:26] <rooftopjoe> right
[17:27] <gordonDrogon> it has an additional atmega48p too - that's configured as an RTC with a battery.
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[17:27] <rooftopjoe> i read the atmega48 is user programmable, though
[17:27] <gordonDrogon> it is.
[17:27] <rooftopjoe> even though it can be used as a rtc
[17:27] <gordonDrogon> and an IR reciever.
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[17:27] <gordonDrogon> you have 4K of flash, 256 bytes of RAM - off you go :)
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[17:28] <rooftopjoe> noob question since i am new to this embedded world: how do you write to that flash memory? :)
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[17:28] <rooftopjoe> actually, i can find out that on my own
[17:29] <rooftopjoe> i was more interested in the big picture :)
[17:29] <rooftopjoe> the gertboard seems to offer more i/o
[17:29] <rooftopjoe> i guess it's not made obsolete by the gertduino (for new projects) as i originally expected
[17:29] <gordonDrogon> you can program the flash on the Arduino (m328) and m48 on the Gertduino via the standard Arduino environment plus a new version of avrdude.
[17:29] <rooftopjoe> they offer different things
[17:30] <gordonDrogon> yes. the gertboard is very different from the arduino.
[17:30] <gordonDrogon> *gertduino.
[17:30] <gordonDrogon> you can connect a standard arduino to a Pi too - via the USB cable - e.g. http://unicorn.drogon.net/piduino.jpg
[17:30] <gordonDrogon> the Gertuino just does away with that cable and adds a few more things.
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[17:31] <rooftopjoe> or using the GPIO pins and wires, i expect
[17:32] <rooftopjoe> ok, i understand
[17:32] <rooftopjoe> thanks, this was very useful for me
[17:32] <gordonDrogon> the gertduino also has a handy serial level converter - lets you connect standard rs232 to the Pi (or the Atmega's)
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[18:05] <AwesomeDragon> What would you recommend for a torrent server?
[18:06] <AwesomeDragon> atm i am running raspbian
[18:06] <AwesomeDragon> I would like it to automatically start when the Pi starts after a power-blackout
[18:08] <rooftopjoe> You mean a tracker?
[18:08] <AwesomeDragon> if not that's ok too, but it must be controllable via webinterface
[18:08] <AwesomeDragon> No
[18:08] <nid0> when you say a torrent server, do you mean a webserver to serve .torrent files, a client to download torrents, or a tracker?
[18:08] <AwesomeDragon> just a torrent client running 24/7
[18:08] <nid0> because torrenting doesnt involve "a server"
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[18:08] <rooftopjoe> Oh, a clinet.
[18:08] <AwesomeDragon> accessable via ssh or webinterface
[18:08] <rooftopjoe> Cause a "torrent server" doesn't make sense if it's not a tracker.
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[18:09] <nid0> Deluge is popular
[18:09] <djazz> I use Deluge, it's the best I've tried so far
[18:09] <AwesomeDragon> I have Deluge atm
[18:09] <AwesomeDragon> but it is just a desktop application, isn't it?
[18:09] <rooftopjoe> And what's wrong with it? :)
[18:09] <nid0> http://www.howtogeek.com/142044/how-to-turn-a-raspberry-pi-into-an-always-on-bittorrent-box/
[18:10] <djazz> i have used transmission's web interface, but it was kinda buggy
[18:10] <nid0> there is a massively in-depth deluge guide
[18:10] <nid0> and it has a webui
[18:10] <djazz> AwesomeDragon: you can connect to your deluge "server" from any client. the web client is one, then there's a native GUI desktop client
[18:10] <rooftopjoe> In which way would it be a special desktop application?
[18:10] <rooftopjoe> It's not like the client cares about your computer's form factor.
[18:11] <rooftopjoe> If it's been ported, you can use it.
[18:11] <nid0> I think he didnt know deluge had a web client or remote access
[18:11] <AwesomeDragon> yes
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[18:12] <AwesomeDragon> That tutorial sounds like some work, but i will try it and come back when i have problems.
[18:12] <AwesomeDragon> Thank you
[18:12] <nid0> its a lot of explaination in between a few copy/paste commands
[18:13] <rooftopjoe> AwesomeDragon: It's more work because it's designed with downloads in mind.
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[18:13] <AwesomeDragon> ?
[18:13] <rooftopjoe> You may not need to set up download locations and permissions if you say you just want to seed things.
[18:13] <rooftopjoe> Supposedly, that is what you meant by "server"?
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[18:14] <AwesomeDragon> yes, but i won't to leech too
[18:14] <AwesomeDragon> *want
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[18:15] <rooftopjoe> Fair enough. So you just want to run a torrent client on your RPi and have it start on boot up.
[18:15] <rooftopjoe> I guess that tutorial will do then although I don't know why it's so big (haven't read it).
[18:15] <rooftopjoe> It shouldn't be more work than you'd put in on a regular Linux system.
[18:17] <AwesomeDragon> then i just have to get it accessible over web, but that seems to be a router problem.
[18:17] <AwesomeDragon> duckdns is working fine in crontabs
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[18:33] <MProg> so...
[18:33] <MProg> does anyone know if there's a way to set the intra refresh period in the v4l2 driver ?
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[18:42] <demlak> hmm.. when i use a TIP121 on pin18 to pwm controll an external bulb.. by using program "gpio".. my system seems to be frozen when setting PWM signal to 500
[18:42] <demlak> any idea on that?
[18:42] <demlak> i cannot ping anymore
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[18:43] <demlak> oh. wait.. ping works.. but ssh is broken..
[18:44] <demlak> ping is over 300ms on wifi
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[18:46] <demlak> now over 1500ms
[18:46] <gordonDrogon> what gpio command?
[18:47] <demlak> gpio pwm 1 500
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[18:47] <demlak> after gpio mode 1 pwm
[18:47] <gordonDrogon> seems ok to me.
[18:47] <MProg> cpu maxed out ? ralink wifi ? :s
[18:47] <demlak> logilink wifi
[18:47] <demlak> can�t see cpu usage.. ssh broken =)
[18:48] <demlak> well.. i�m able to ping.. so i think, it�s high cpu usage
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[18:49] <MProg> logilink... do they make the chips ?
[18:49] <demlak> wait.. i will reboot.. then check driver
[18:49] <demlak> im not very into linux
[18:51] <gordonDrogon> ok
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[18:52] <gordonDrogon> did the gpio pwm command dim the bulb though?
[18:52] <demlak> driver rtl8192cu
[18:52] <demlak> yes.. it worked with lower values..
[18:52] <demlak> like gpio pwm 1 100
[18:52] <gordonDrogon> that's ok then :)
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[18:53] <gordonDrogon> light is a very non linear thing.
[18:53] <demlak> sure.. but.. whats about freezing system?
[18:53] <gordonDrogon> I doubt it's the gpio command thats doing that.
[18:53] <demlak> i want to make a sunrise
[18:53] <gordonDrogon> but it's hard to tell - I'd reboot and see if it's repeatable.
[18:54] <demlak> with "gpio pwm 1 100" system is very slow..
[18:54] <gordonDrogon> does it get faster if you gpio pwm 1 1000 ?
[18:55] <MProg> can you check the cpu usage now ?
[18:55] <gordonDrogon> it really shouldn't.
[18:55] <demlak> load average: 9,91, 3,02, 1,14
[18:55] <gordonDrogon> run the 'top' command.
[18:55] <demlak> %Cpu(s): 31,7 us, 67,8 sy, 0,0 ni, 0,2 id, 0,0 wa, 0,0 hi, 0,3 si, 0,0 st
[18:55] <gordonDrogon> (I wrote the gpio program fwiw)
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[18:55] <MProg> ah
[18:55] <demlak> cpu is high
[18:55] <MProg> cpu maxed out
[18:55] <gordonDrogon> what are the top few programs using it?
[18:55] <demlak> yes.. but why? i thought on pin 18 it�s hardware pwm?
[18:56] <demlak> ahhh
[18:56] <gordonDrogon> I'm thinking its something else.
[18:56] <demlak> pilight-daemon.. you are correct.. it�s something else..
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[18:56] <gordonDrogon> I've no idea what that is. is that your program?
[18:56] <demlak> nope.. it�s a home automation software
[18:57] <MProg> ah :s
[18:57] <nid0> rf control software it seems
[18:57] <demlak> after stopping it.. cpu is lwo
[18:57] <gordonDrogon> yea, I just googled - 433MHz devices.
[18:57] <demlak> lwo
[18:57] <demlak> gnarf
[18:57] <demlak> low
[18:57] <gordonDrogon> :)
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[18:58] <demlak> gpio pwm command works only with full numbers? no 0.5 or so?
[18:59] <gordonDrogon> no.
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[18:59] <gordonDrogon> bu the default range is 0-1024, so it's a big enough range.
[18:59] <demlak> cause 1 makes the light brighter than i wanted
[18:59] <gordonDrogon> you could make the range bigger if you like: gpio pwmr 10000
[19:00] <gordonDrogon> also try: gpio pwm-ms (puts it into traditional mark:space ratio method)
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[19:00] <demlak> i think.. that depends on my transistor..
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[19:01] <demlak> nm.. thats not realy a problem.. the bigger problem seems to be pilight daemon =(
[19:01] <gordonDrogon> make sure it can fully stop conducting...
[19:03] <demlak> ah.. now i remember your name.. you are the dev of wiringpi? =)
[19:04] <gordonDrogon> yep!
[19:04] <gordonDrogon> which includes the gpio command :-)
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[19:05] <MProg> if only I could find a v4l2 dev :p
[19:05] <ShorTie> go into #v4l then
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[19:06] <MProg> *v4l2 driver for pi camera board dev
[19:06] <MProg> :p
[19:06] <ShorTie> that 1 your gonna need to use the forums for .. :/~
[19:07] <MProg> yeah, looks like it
[19:07] <MProg> :/
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[19:08] <MProg> I prefer IRC when possible :p
[19:08] <ShorTie> http://www.raspberrypi.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=62364&hilit=v4l
[19:10] <MProg> yep
[19:10] <ShorTie> the firmware and the driver work hand-n-hand, so make sure your firmware is up to date
[19:10] <MProg> nothing about setting the intra refresh period though
[19:11] <MProg> so I was wondering if it's possible, and if not, if they plan to add the option
[19:11] <ShorTie> resolution has a big factor on refresh rate
[19:13] <ShorTie> yup, that would be a ? for that thread
[19:13] <MProg> not refresh rate :p I need an option like --intra / -g in raspivid
[19:14] <demlak> gordonDrogon does light go brighter in a logarythmic way? i just did a counter in a while loop.. for sure this makes the light go bright in a fast way..
[19:15] <gordonDrogon> demlak, it will depend on the light. most are sort of logarithmic - especially incandescant bulbs.
[19:15] <ShorTie> i think raspivid is like basically nothing more then then continuous picture taking strung together
[19:15] <ShorTie> so resolution does have a factor, cause higher resolution takes longer for each picture
[19:15] <demlak> well.. its this =) http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/881501IMG1969.jpg
[19:16] <MProg> it does a bit more than that ShorTie :p
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[19:19] <Encrypt> gordonDrogon is one of the awesome guys of this channel :p
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[19:22] <gordonDrogon> sometimes...
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[19:36] <MProg> ah yeah
[19:36] <MProg> another question
[19:36] <MProg> https://github.com/raspberrypi/linux/blob/rpi-3.10.y/Documentation/video4linux/bcm2835-v4l2.txt
[19:36] <MProg> $ v4l2-ctl --set-fmt-video=width=1920,height=1088,pixelformat=4
[19:36] <MProg> (Note: 1088 not 1080).
[19:36] <MProg> noted... but why ? :s
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[20:28] <sharperguy> I'm trying to compile some code on the target that is dependent on emmintrin.h (with Archlinux). It seems that I don't have this file on rpi - is there a solution?
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[20:31] <rikkib> Download the file and put it in the source folder may do it.
[20:32] <sharperguy> rikkib: I see the problem is that this in an intel-specific file including with x86 gcc for allowing MMX instructions
[20:32] <sharperguy> ARM doesn't have any of that
[20:32] <sharperguy> not sure if I can compile this thing then
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[21:44] <sandman> Anyone know when zram will be incorporated into the default kernel? That is, how long will users be stuck having to recompile the kernel to benefit from it
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[21:52] <sandman> And secondly, is Raspbian done being updated? It seems I've not gotten any updates in quite some time
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[21:55] <Gorroth> It's been getting updates
[21:55] <Gorroth> They haven't done any new major releases, however
[21:55] <Gorroth> Kernel[Linux grim-pi-tv 3.6.11+] CPU[ARMv6-compatible 698 MHz] MemFree(M)[114/438] DiskFree(G)[1218/1389] Uptime[139 days 14 hours 34 minutes] Users[3] LoadAvg[0.38]
[21:56] <Gorroth> The kernel raspbian has given me is 3.6.11+
[21:56] <sandman> Have you upgraded recently?
[21:56] <sandman> I have 3.10.25+ for some reason
[21:57] <Gorroth> Well, I always do apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade... maybe a kernel upgrade is in there that i didn't notice and so haven't rebooted
[21:57] <Gorroth> I should check that, but my uptime!!!
[21:58] <ShorTie> yup, you gotta reboot to make new kernel active
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[22:00] <Gorroth> I can't tell if I have a new kernel ready or not... I do see packages for 3.10-3-rpi in apt-cache, but that's it
[22:00] <Gorroth> When I use "dpkg -l '*linux*'", I'm not seeing any images at all listed.
[22:01] <sandman> Me neither
[22:01] <sandman> Oddly enough
[22:03] <ShorTie> 'uname -a' tells me i'm runnin 3.10.27+
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[22:03] <Gorroth> Yeah, I'm doing an "apt-get dist-upgrade" right now, and it's updating packages. I'm pretty sure I've always paid attention to what it says, and I've never had it say I need to reboot or update my kernel.
[22:03] <Gorroth> ShorTie: How long have you had RPi installed?
[22:03] <Gorroth> er..
[22:03] <Gorroth> I mean Raspbian
[22:04] <Gorroth> It would be very strange if they're only giving out kernel upgrades with fresh installs.
[22:04] <Gorroth> ooooooooooooooh
[22:05] <Gorroth> I haven't been doing "rpi-update" on my system: http://www.raspbian.org/HexxehImages
[22:05] <ShorTie> oh, couple days to a week at most
[22:05] <Gorroth> Scroll to the bottom of that page.
[22:05] <Gorroth> Now I'm afraid. I don't want to lose my uptime!
[22:05] <ShorTie> that updates just the firmware i believe
[22:05] <Gorroth> No, it says it gets the newest kernel too.
[22:05] <ShorTie> what is so important about uptime ??
[22:06] <Gorroth> The fact that I have it and others don't.
[22:06] <ShorTie> well no need to do any upgrading then
[22:08] <Gorroth> Hehe
[22:08] <Gorroth> Well, I upgrade the rest of the system with "apt-get dist-upgrade"
[22:08] <Gorroth> I guess I'll be forced to reboot soon since I have been doing it wrongly for the kernel upgrades.
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[22:09] <ShorTie> you could posibily break things that way
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[22:17] <Raynerd_> shiftplusone: You about?
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[22:21] <raynerd> anyone using a piglow?
[22:22] <SpeedEvil> Silly raynerd. Pigs squeal.
[22:22] <SpeedEvil> Not low. Cows low.
[22:23] <raynerd> wt...
[22:24] <raynerd> speedevil: what??
[22:24] <SpeedEvil> nvm
[22:24] <raynerd> ok
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[22:29] <Phosie> SpeedEvil: Don't worry, I got the joke.
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[22:58] <Gorroth> I know I could break things with a kernel upgrade. I could leave security holes by not upgrading.
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[22:58] <Gorroth> Anyway, broken things can be fixed.
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[23:07] <gordonDrogon> string & chewing gum?
[23:07] <Gorroth> :-)
[23:08] <gordonDrogon> and I got the piglow joke too - oddly enough that's how I first read it now it's sort of stuck as a pig low.
[23:08] <gordonDrogon> and raynerd has gone... I have 2 pig lows.
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[23:12] * Mallot1 :is cool
[23:12] * Mallot1 is cool
[23:12] <Mallot1> hi Clubsam
[23:12] <Mallot1> :)
[23:13] <Clubsam13> hello is anyone familiar with retropie
[23:13] <Clubsam13> ?
[23:13] <DeliriumTremens> a little
[23:13] <DeliriumTremens> its been ages since i used it
[23:14] <Clubsam13> have you been able to install the Roms
[23:14] <DeliriumTremens> yes
[23:14] <Clubsam13> OK how did you do it
[23:14] <DeliriumTremens> thats a big question
[23:14] <DeliriumTremens> uh
[23:14] <DeliriumTremens> retropie installs emulationstation right?
[23:15] <Clubsam13> like all of my ROM folders are empty where are the files
[23:15] <Mallot1> yes DeliriumTremens
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[23:15] <Mallot1> it does :)
[23:15] <DeliriumTremens> i recall using retropie + emulation station + raspbmc
[23:15] <Clubsam13> yes I have everything except the ROM files I can run cave story and that Sega game
[23:16] <DeliriumTremens> so its working but not working?
[23:16] <cave> me?
[23:16] <cave> Clubsam13: ?
[23:16] <DeliriumTremens> hah
[23:16] <Mallot1> oh lol cave he was talking about cave story the game xD
[23:16] <Clubsam13> lol not you man :D
[23:17] <DeliriumTremens> your only problem is the roms not appearing in the directories?
[23:17] <Mallot1> yes
[23:18] <Clubsam13> I don't know where ton place the Roms and the Roms are empty they have no files in them
[23:18] <DeliriumTremens> Clubsam13: do you have es_systems.cfg set up correctly
[23:19] <DeliriumTremens> ~./emulationstation/es_systems.cfg defines the folders containing the roms
[23:19] <DeliriumTremens> they are case sensitive
[23:19] <DeliriumTremens> and you have to define the rom file extensions
[23:19] <DeliriumTremens> same file
[23:20] <Clubsam13> I dident touch that file all I did was change the splash screen and make it auto run
[23:21] <Clubsam13> what did you have to do right after you installed emulationstation to get everything to run
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[23:21] <DeliriumTremens> you said some games are working
[23:21] <DeliriumTremens> check that file to see where it's looking for the roms
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[23:22] <Clubsam13> yes br
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[23:22] <DeliriumTremens> and to see what file extensions its looking for, then make sure your roms are in the right spots
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[23:24] <Clubsam13> back
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[23:25] <Clubsam13> the only problem is that I'm sup post to put the roms in there folder but the Roms are empty and I dont know where to put them
[23:26] <DeliriumTremens> i guess i dont understand what you mean
[23:26] <DeliriumTremens> you have to download roms and place them in the appropriate folders
[23:26] <DeliriumTremens> what do you mean they are empty?
[23:26] <Clubsam13> from where
[23:26] <DeliriumTremens> i dont know, that's up to you to find them
[23:26] <DeliriumTremens> it doesnt just come with a bunch of roms
[23:27] <DeliriumTremens> last i checked, maybe they include some now
[23:27] <Clubsam13> oh
[23:27] <DeliriumTremens> but if not, you gotta find them yourself
[23:27] <Clubsam13> that would explain why I can't run any games and can't find any game files anywhere in retro pie
[23:27] <DeliriumTremens> yeah
[23:27] <DeliriumTremens> that would do it ;)
[23:29] <Clubsam13> I thought it came with a bunch of emulators that can be ran ,so basically its just something that will run the Roms after you get them
[23:29] <DeliriumTremens> exactly
[23:29] <DeliriumTremens> the emulator is the machanism to play the roms
[23:29] <DeliriumTremens> think of the emulator as the console (nintendo, sega) and the rom as the cartridge
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[23:30] <Clubsam13> oh OK do you have an idea of where I can get some Roms and I can just put them into there folders as long as its the right console game
[23:31] <DeliriumTremens> and as long as the file extensions match what is in es_systems.cfg
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[23:31] <DeliriumTremens> i would try using google if i were you
[23:31] <Mallot1> hey guys
[23:32] <Mallot1> whats the problem?
[23:32] <Clubsam13> iwhat extent ion . cfg?
[23:32] <Clubsam13> what extent ion .cfg?
[23:32] <Mallot1> ??\?
[23:32] <Mallot1> what is ion.cfg?
[23:32] <DeliriumTremens> lol
[23:33] <DeliriumTremens> ~/.emulationstation/es_systems.cfg is a file that contains configuration information for emulationstation
[23:33] <Clubsam13> what extention spell check :D
[23:33] <DeliriumTremens> https://github.com/petrockblog/RetroPie-Setup/wiki/EmulationStation
[23:33] <DeliriumTremens> read the documentation
[23:33] <DeliriumTremens> i cant spoon feed this too you
[23:33] <DeliriumTremens> to*
[23:33] <Clubsam13> ok
[23:34] <Clubsam13> thanks again I'm just better at hardware I already build the portable games I just need the software, this is my first day on the fpurm
[23:35] <Clubsam13> fourm
[23:35] <Mallot1> itsan irc chat man
[23:35] <Clubsam13> thanks man
[23:35] <Mallot1> and im the software guy
[23:35] <Mallot1> :D
[23:35] <DeliriumTremens> I take it Clubsam13 does not speak english as a primary language
[23:35] <DeliriumTremens> and that is causing some of the trouble
[23:35] <Mallot1> LOL
[23:35] <Mallot1> club is english
[23:35] <Mallot1> its his only language
[23:36] <Mallot1> andprimary xD
[23:36] <DeliriumTremens> oh
[23:36] <Mallot1> its cool
[23:36] <DeliriumTremens> you two know eachother then?
[23:36] <Mallot1> yea
[23:36] <Clubsam13> sorry I'm using a tablet with a touchscreen :D
[23:36] <DeliriumTremens> Put your heads together and ask google some of these questions
[23:36] <Mallot1> yea, i think ill help him out B)
[23:37] <Clubsam13> yeah he's the software of my entire project :D the programmer that's why I suck at this
[23:37] <DeliriumTremens> There's a ton of documentation on emulation station/retropie
[23:37] <Mallot1> thanks again DeliriumTremens!
[23:38] <Clubsam13> yeah thanks man
[23:38] <Clubsam13> bue
[23:38] <Clubsam13> bye
[23:38] <DeliriumTremens> no problem
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[23:46] <Mallot1> hey
[23:46] <Mallot1> do you know how to make a windows exe runnable on emulationstationor just linux?
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[23:48] <DeliriumTremens> i dont understand your question monkers
[23:48] <DeliriumTremens> er
[23:48] <DeliriumTremens> Mallot1:
[23:49] <Mallot1> im trying to getmy game to run on linux so we can play it with the raspberry pic
[23:49] <Mallot1> :)
[23:49] <Mallot1> B)
[23:49] <DeliriumTremens> yeah that isn't going to work.
[23:49] <DeliriumTremens> for a whole bunch of different reasons
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[23:50] <Mallot1> aw!
[23:50] <Mallot1> is there anyway?
[23:51] <monkers> what game?
[23:51] <Mallot1> i made it myself
[23:51] <DeliriumTremens> for starters you'd have to recompile your game to run in an ARM environment, right now you are using it in x86
[23:52] <DeliriumTremens> monkers: its an x86 windows game he made
[23:52] <monkers> ohh
[23:52] <Mallot1> im on WIndows8 x64
[23:52] <DeliriumTremens> but you want to run it on the pi?
[23:52] <Mallot1> yes
[23:53] <monkers> Mallot1 - what language?
[23:53] <Mallot1> JustBASIC, i also have some others programs/ games id like to run
[23:53] <shiftplusone> There are ways to run windows exes on the pi, but they are all impractical. The sane thing to do is to compile it for ARM
[23:53] <Mallot1> im differnt languageslike C++ and SDL
[23:54] <Mallot1> alright
[23:54] <monkers> yah maybe you can just recompile it for the rPI chip
[23:54] <Mallot1> alright,
[23:54] <Mallot1> so i would just compile for ARM?
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[23:57] <monkers> could he use Qemu?
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[23:57] <shiftplusone> yes
[23:57] <monkers> sounds sort of sketchy but maybe worth checkin out Mallot1 - http://wiki.qemu.org/Main_Page
[23:57] <Mallot1> whats that monkers
[23:57] <Mallot1> alright :)
[23:57] <monkers> godspeed lol
[23:58] <monkers> ;)
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[23:58] <shiftplusone> there are all sorts of madmen who say windows xp runs on the pi
[23:58] <shiftplusone> what they fail to mention is that it takes hours to boot and you can't actually do anything
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[23:58] <Gorroth> Maybe it can be made to run FreeDOS? :_p
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[23:59] <shiftplusone> lots of faster alternative to qemu+freedos
[23:59] <shiftplusone> or do you mean a native port of freedos to arm?
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