#raspberrypi IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2014-02-01

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[0:09] <MProg> dRbiG, the latest raspbian should be using the xf86-video-fbturbo driver by default as far as I know
[0:10] <MProg> that's probably the best we'll get with xorg
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[0:11] <MProg> (wayland/weston will be better)
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[0:30] <dRbiG> MProg: i'm on arch, but wayland does ring a bell
[0:30] <dRbiG> thx for the update
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[0:30] <dRbiG> i guess i'll dump a raspbian image and see :)
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[0:39] <MProg> you could check the repos first
[0:39] <MProg> pacman -Ss fbturbo
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[0:42] <MProg> or the AUR
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[0:44] <funkster> this is my "route -n" http://pastebin.com/yL2SkT7U - how do i make eth0 accessible to the internet, when i dhcp my wlan0 is makes it inaccessible - anyone know?
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[0:52] <basti> i guess you have to add the gateway
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[1:08] <funkster> basti: yeah when i add the gateway for eth0, it works.. but i need this setup the right way, as in i wont know the gateway IP for these devices
[1:10] <pksato> funkster: its not work. same network on two interfaces.
[1:12] <funkster> pksato: not sure what you mean?
[1:13] <pksato> you need to study ip protocol. :)
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[1:14] <funkster> pksato: im telling you it works when i add the default route manually....
[1:14] <pksato> yes.
[1:14] <funkster> so what are you saying?
[1:14] <pksato> that you trying?
[1:15] <funkster> im asking how i can get dhclient/interfaces setup in debian to add default route for these automatically.
[1:15] <pksato> nothing extra needs.
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[1:15] <funkster> you do realize it does NOT work if i don't add it manually, yes?
[1:16] <funkster> so obviously something has to be done.
[1:16] <pksato> default is to get gw from lease.
[1:16] <pksato> eth0 and wlan0 have a same network scope.
[1:17] <funkster> i dont think you understand what the problem even is
[1:17] <pksato> ok. I resign.
[1:18] <Triffid_Hunter> funkster: are they both seeing the same network? or two different networks with the same ip range?
[1:19] <Triffid_Hunter> funkster: because both situations have solutions, and what you're doing is wrong for either
[1:19] <funkster> Triffid_Hunter: in this case its the same network, but the device can be on two different network, and i will also not know the networks/gateways/ips etc - why im using dhcp.
[1:20] <pksato> funkster: last tip. Last interface that come up replace default gw if it have one.
[1:20] <funkster> im not saying i found a solution, im saying adding a gateway makes it possible to send traffic other eth0, im looking on how to setup dhclient/interfaces correctly.
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[1:21] <pksato> if from dhcp, static, may be get a error.
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[1:23] <Triffid_Hunter> funkster: if they're both the same network you want to create a bonding interface then slave eth0 and wlan0 to it
[1:23] <Triffid_Hunter> then run dhcp on bond0
[1:23] <Triffid_Hunter> this is what I do on my laptop to have automatic changeover between eth0 and wlan0 with zero connection interruption
[1:24] <Triffid_Hunter> if they're different networks, then they must have different ip ranges. you might have to wrangle iptables to do some network mapping in order to achieve this
[1:24] <funkster> if i was to do that, how would i ifdown eth0? just like a normally would?
[1:24] <funkster> even tho i have bond0
[1:24] <Triffid_Hunter> funkster: yes, and the bond would then switch to wlan0
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[1:25] <Triffid_Hunter> funkster: there's a few different modes for a bonded link, I usually use active backup (ie prefer eth0 if available, use wlan0 if eth0 goes down)
[1:25] <Triffid_Hunter> it can also send packets over all active links to improve throughput and maybe a couple other modes
[1:25] <funkster> ok that may work, but how can i specifially test if eth0 is working, it can send traffic even if they are both "UP" ?
[1:26] <Triffid_Hunter> funkster: if they're both the same network , I don't understand what you're wanting
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[1:27] <funkster> the wireless router isnt the same hardware device as the wired switch.. etc etc
[1:27] <funkster> so wireless is taken down sometimes.. wired is taken down sometimes..
[1:27] <Triffid_Hunter> well if your ethernet connection can "look" up without having connection to the gateway, you need a software solution, or a managed switch
[1:28] <funkster> all i need to do is be able to ping -I device yahoo.com and act on if its successful or not, in a nut shell.
[1:28] <Triffid_Hunter> ping has a flag to force sending of packets via specific interfaces, you could use that to get under the bond and ifup/ifdown as appropriate
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[1:29] <Triffid_Hunter> suggest you ping the gateway rather than something on the internet.. ip route show -n will grab its ip for you ;)
[1:29] <funkster> well if i can ping to both interfaces and check, whatsthe bond0 needed for lol? the whole point is i cant get both interfaces up at same time without manual intervention
[1:29] <Triffid_Hunter> oh maybe not -n
[1:30] <Triffid_Hunter> funkster: the bond is so the kernel doesn't get confused by having the same network segment on two interfaces. that's a huge no-no and you should expect lots of undefined behaviour if you set things up like that
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[1:30] <pksato> to use bonding, need bonding capable devices.
[1:31] <ShorTie> if it takes manual intervention then the automactic configuration is not setup right
[1:31] <funkster> then i cant test under bond0 that eth0 and wlan0 individually can ping out.
[1:31] <funkster> ShorTie: do you know how to set it up correctly then?
[1:31] <Triffid_Hunter> pksato: how does me bonding the ethernet and wireless on all my laptops work then?
[1:32] <Triffid_Hunter> funkster: like I said not 5 minutes ago, ping has a flag to force a specific interface
[1:32] <funkster> Triffid_Hunter: how do you indivually test wlan0 and eth0?
[1:32] <Triffid_Hunter> funkster: I don't. bond handles it automatically because the 'up' flags are reliable for me
[1:32] <Triffid_Hunter> ie I never have ethernet connection to a switch or similar which is itself unable to contact the gateway
[1:32] <Triffid_Hunter> either my ethernet is plugged in and working, or it's not
[1:33] <pksato> I am confused...
[1:33] <funkster> and if i have two different networks, it should work without issues, yah?
[1:33] <Triffid_Hunter> funkster: as long as each network has a different ip range, yes
[1:33] <funkster> correct
[1:33] <Triffid_Hunter> funkster: but you want to ditch the bond in that case
[1:33] <funkster> right
[1:33] <ShorTie> eth0 should work fine with defualts and wlan0 should just need the essid and keys entered
[1:34] <pksato> All day working at 40C make my brain a jelly, :)
[1:34] <funkster> ShorTie: are you guessing? lol
[1:34] <Triffid_Hunter> ShorTie: he wants to auto-switch from one to the other depending on ping gateway result via each interface
[1:34] <Triffid_Hunter> pksato: yikes I can't handle 30c, let alone 40
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[1:35] <Triffid_Hunter> ShorTie: apparently his network is capable of having wireless and ethernet technically connected but unable to contact the gateway due to problems upstream
[1:35] <Triffid_Hunter> which frankly seems like the network admin's problem to me, but all too often we have to work around others' mistakes
[1:38] <funkster> i will try bond0, as well as just writing a script that loops to check if eth0 is active, then disable wlan0, and if both active disable wlan0
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[1:42] <pksato> I manage my employer network. rarely I have problem with link loss. I have is a cable connection falt. replace plug and run again for years.
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[1:42] <pksato> If have...
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[2:54] <rikkib> Ahhh had mosi and miso transposed... Now have two nRF24 modules talking to each other
[2:56] <rikkib> 36 or so ms rtt for 18 bytes
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[3:09] <stealthii> Hi there, does anyone know the raspbian package name that includes raspistill/raspivid (camera capture apps)
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[3:30] <stealthii> turns out it's libraspberrypi-bin
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[5:05] <Geminizer> Hey guys... just got a new RaspberryPi today. I formatted and loaded fedora on 2 SD cards, inserted each card into the Pi, then turned on the power. The red power light came on, the ACT light blinked once, and that was it. no video or anything after that. do I have a dud?
[5:05] <Tachyon`> no, you probably didn't write teh sd cards correctly
[5:05] <Tachyon`> did you use image writing software or just copy the file to the card
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[5:06] <klock> should try NOOBS
[5:06] <Tachyon`> if you just format a card FAT32 and throw the netinst NOOBS on it (fairly small) it should boot
[5:06] <Tachyon`> and give you a choice of operating systems
[5:07] <klock> and/or multiboot if you want it
[5:07] <Tachyon`> certainly it'd confirm the pi working
[5:07] <Geminizer> I used the fedora-arm-installer via windows 7 to prepare the cards
[5:07] <Tachyon`> you'd also get a chance to try the rather underappreciated RISC OS
[5:07] <Tachyon`> is that specifically for the pi?
[5:08] <Tachyon`> anyway, just do as suggested, fat32, noobs, boot, it'll work or not -.o, fedora is one of the operating systems supplied with NOOBS so you should get the same end result
[5:08] <rikkib> Drum throne is quite uncomfortable
[5:08] <Geminizer> I followed this site: http://zenit.senecac.on.ca/wiki/index.php/Raspberry_Pi_Fedora_Remix_Installation
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[5:09] <Tachyon`> although NOOBS will only work reliably on an HD TV as the person who setup the default config is a moron
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[5:11] <[Saint]> thats just not true.
[5:12] <[Saint]> not even close.
[5:12] <Tachyon`> oh really, read the lines added to EVERY config.txt
[5:12] <Tachyon`> in particular the ones that force HDMI detection
[5:12] <Tachyon`> whether it's there or not
[5:12] <[Saint]> and then read that this behaviour can be overridden trivially.
[5:13] <[Saint]> Lets try to avoid calling people morons when we dont understand something, shall we?
[5:13] <Tachyon`> it shouldn't be there at all, the pi is designed to detect HDMI if it's there and default to composite otherwise
[5:13] <Tachyon`> I understand it perfectly well, are you rewsponsible for that abomination?
[5:13] <[Saint]> and some broken HDMI wont report.
[5:14] <Tachyon`> right, so to fix a tiny subset of broken HDMI displays, we break composite entirely
[5:14] <[Saint]> So, should it fall back to composite in that case?
[5:14] <Tachyon`> excellent
[5:14] <[Saint]> the "tiny subset" here is composite.
[5:14] <Tachyon`> again, do you have some involvement in that code?
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[5:15] <[Saint]> No. Im just not totally unreasonable and can see past my own usage.
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[5:15] <[Saint]> I dont think something is broken just because it doesn't suit *me*.
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[5:16] <Tachyon`> no, it's broken because part of the functionality built into the machine doesn't work with noobs
[5:16] <Tachyon`> which part of that is hard to get?
[5:16] <[Saint]> It *does* work. Gah.
[5:16] <[Saint]> I give up. Have fun man.
[5:17] <[Saint]> Enjoy being "that guy".
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[6:22] <koell> it works
[6:22] <shiftplusone> depending on what 'it' is, that's probably good
[6:23] <koell> register nick, join the channel
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[6:23] <shiftplusone> ah
[6:24] <rikkib> Welcome
[6:24] <koell> thx
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[6:28] <Jeebiss> i just made a usb cable splice thats worthy of an oscar
[6:28] <Jeebiss> https://www.dropbox.com/s/3gi4mhm4zvgm065/2014-02-01%2000.14.47.jpg
[6:28] <Jeebiss> now i can get my webcam hooked up to the pi :D
[6:28] <shiftplusone> what about putting heatshrink over it?
[6:28] <Jeebiss> i did that
[6:29] <koell> jaeckel: man! amazing!
[6:29] <shiftplusone> carry on then
[6:29] <Jeebiss> i was proud of the internals, i always make it look like crap
[6:29] <koell> Jeebiss: a completely new design, 20% lighter as previous generation! beautiful ui!
[6:30] <shiftplusone> the iCable?
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[6:30] <Jeebiss> now to figure out what drivers i need
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[6:31] <helljawz> guys
[6:31] <helljawz> is it right?
[6:31] <helljawz> # setterm -blank 10 -powerdown 10 > /dev/tty1
[6:31] <shiftplusone> The most effort I put into a cable was the lapdock cable, but it's nowhere near oscar-worthy https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/175702/lapdock%20cable.jpg
[6:34] <Triffid_Hunter> helljawz: I usually put it in /etc/issue
[6:36] <Jeebiss> shiftplusone: did you hotglue that connector on?
[6:37] <shiftplusone> Yeah, it's a surface mount one I ripped off something, so I wouldn't trust solder alone to work
[6:37] <shiftplusone> so solder, hotglue and thread
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[6:46] <helljawz> Triffid_Hunter I want to make an alarm script, but I don't want it -blank 0 all the time
[6:47] <Jeebiss> shiftplusone: points for creativity
[6:47] <Jeebiss> and resourcefulness
[6:47] <helljawz> so I set it for one hour, and then set it back to -black 10
[6:48] <helljawz> the alarm will be playing a song for one hour and on the TV/tty1 will be a clock
[6:49] <helljawz> so I don't need to take the cellphone to check the time
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[6:53] <shiftplusone> hurray... points =D
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[7:01] <koell> do u guys still use the usenet/newsgroups?
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[7:06] <helljawz> how do I prevent raspberry turning on the tv through hdmi when starting?
[7:07] <turtlehat> tvservice perhaps
[7:07] <turtlehat> cant remember
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[7:22] <Triffid_Hunter> helljawz: force it to use the tvout instead in the config perhaps
[7:22] <Triffid_Hunter> not sure if it can be switched after booting or not though
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[7:22] <Triffid_Hunter> if you want the tv to ignore the hdmi signal appearing, you'd have to wrangle the tv's firmware
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[7:28] <Jusii> or if it's ok that tv turns on briefly, use tvservice to turn it of early in boot
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[8:40] <koell> ok
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[9:29] <Celerity> is there a portable version of the sdformatter tool? I hate having to install stuff :(
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[10:34] <spondbob> is it ok if i overclock to 800 but power it with 750mA?
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[11:25] <[Saint]> spondbob: yes.
[11:28] <[Saint]> If the supply is solid, it should be fine. I have a little raspberrypi AP/fileserver on 900MHz w/ a 700mA iPod wall wart.
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[11:29] <[Saint]> But there's nothing plugged into that pi apart from a tiny little 50mA picoUSB wireless N dongle.
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[12:31] <spondbob> [Saint]: there's no harm or bad effect of the hardware in a long term right?
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[12:32] <koell> i've 2 subwoofers from my stereo. each one has a black cable that fits in a cinch socket. is it possible to connect them to my 'pi with an rca to cinch adapter? i wonder why they dont need extra power.
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[12:33] <ShorTie> if they don't need extra power, they most like will not work
[12:34] <koell> ShorTie: why? on the stereo they work fine.
[12:35] <ShorTie> because the rPi does not have much output power
[12:35] <ShorTie> it's output is designed to be feed into some form of a amplifier
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[12:37] <koell> ShorTie: so the stereo does also output power trough the audio cable?
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[12:39] <ShorTie> yes, the stereo provides power amplification that is outputed to the speakers thru the wires
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[12:42] <ShorTie> there is most likely a input on your stereo that could be hooked up to the rPi, then you could hear the music thru those speakers
[12:43] <koell> ShorTie: ok. i found some of these. http://www.ebay.at/itm/Mini-HDMI-Digital-to-Analog-Composite-RCA-Cinch-Konverter-TV-Laptop-/111122964043?pt=DE_Computing_Monitor_AV_Kabel_Adapter&hash=item19df71de4b
[12:44] <ShorTie> ok, now what ??
[12:44] <koell> should work too
[12:45] <koell> connect via hdmi, external power. happy end :)
[12:46] <ShorTie> i really don't see any need for it, because it basically offers nothing more then the rPi current has i believe
[12:46] <ShorTie> if you say so, give it a try then
[12:47] <koell> idk. but it has external power. so i think i can connect the subwoofers to the adapter via hdmi
[12:47] <ShorTie> it's only powered because ther is electronics in it that requires power to work
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[13:10] <gyeben> hi
[13:10] <gyeben> Is it possible to change the RGB order of the framebuffer?
[13:11] <Tachyon`> I'd imagine so although it may involve recompiling the kernel
[13:11] <Tachyon`> why do you need to do that?
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[13:15] <ShorTie> since the dev's have stated in the forums that the RGB is not being outputed in the correct order and they need to fix it, i would agree with Tachyon` that it is posible
[13:18] <Tachyon`> people have had little SPI screens doing consoles
[13:18] <Tachyon`> speaking of which, the gpio is 3.3v on the pi aye?
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[13:18] <ShorTie> yes sir, 3.3v
[13:19] <Tachyon`> hrm, one of my little TFTs could go on there then for a console display
[13:19] <koell> why r there no big e-ink displays on the market? im thinkin of a 27 inch e-ink, backlid screen would be nice :)
[13:19] <Tachyon`> do you mean OLED?
[13:19] <Tachyon`> eink would be extremely limited
[13:19] <Tachyon`> due to update speed etc.
[13:19] <koell> i mean e-ink
[13:20] <koell> due to power safe? :)
[13:20] <Tachyon`> it takes a fair fraction of a second to update my 800x600 ereader screen
[13:20] <Tachyon`> not sure how a 27" one would go, lol
[13:21] <koell> i would a some the same time
[13:21] <koell> im so happy when i get my hdmipi screen <3
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[13:25] <gyeben> ShorTie: "since the dev's have stated in the forums that the RGB is not being outputed in the correct order" -> do you have a link for this statement?
[13:26] <ShorTie> sorry no, i just remember reading it and have no idea where in the process it is or what all it effects
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[13:28] <ShorTie> if i remember correctly, it is/was GRB instead of RGB
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[14:34] <gordonDrogon> afternoon...
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[14:36] <SirLagz> gordonDrogon: evening
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[14:48] <ripzay> woop
[14:48] <ripzay> my ambilight works :D
[14:48] <ripzay> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhjSU67ycJU&t=54
[14:48] <ripzay> err.. without the t=54
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[14:49] <SpeedEvil> how reading the colours?
[14:50] <ripzay> directX
[14:50] <ripzay> :)
[14:50] <ripzay> using a c# wrapper library
[14:50] <gordonDrogon> that's MX windows?
[14:50] <ripzay> MX windows? :S
[14:51] <gordonDrogon> *MS.
[14:51] <ripzay> yeah
[14:51] <gordonDrogon> so is there actually a Pi involved at all?
[14:51] <ripzay> yeah
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[14:51] <ripzay> pi is running a python web server which recieves the data
[14:51] <ripzay> it works without the PC too
[14:51] <ripzay> but only presets
[14:52] <gordonDrogon> sounds a bit inefficient to use a web transport into a Python program, but hey ...
[14:52] <ripzay> works :P
[14:52] <gordonDrogon> for some value of "works" :)(
[14:52] <ripzay> heh
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[14:52] <ripzay> i was going to use a picaxe chip i had lying around but the ones i have dont have enough memory to store 30x 24 bits
[14:53] <ripzay> so i'd have to add some extra memory with i2c and.. this cost me nothing
[14:53] <ripzay> :P
[14:53] <ripzay> already had a raspi in the drawer doing nothing
[14:54] <ripzay> it needs some tweaks to correct the colour balance but.. i'm happy so far =]
[14:56] <ripzay> used the web server so that i could control it from my phone also gordonDrogon
[14:56] <ripzay> change the brightness etc. from a web address
[14:56] <gordonDrogon> sure.
[14:56] <gordonDrogon> what's the light/controller you are using? I tried a Piglow behind my monitor for a while, but it wasn't bright enough
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[14:57] <ripzay> the LED's have individual WS2801 chips
[14:57] <gordonDrogon> ah, those.
[14:57] <ripzay> so just put a couple of nand gates between the MOSI and SCLK and the led string to change the levels
[14:57] <gordonDrogon> they're the 2-wire ones.
[14:57] <ripzay> then it's just SPI
[14:57] <ripzay> yea
[14:58] <gordonDrogon> why do you need the nand gates?
[14:58] <ripzay> because i had them, and they change the level from the 3.3v raspi to the 5v the ws2801 expects
[14:58] <ripzay> i meant AND, not nand :p
[14:59] <gordonDrogon> ok. they drive OK from 3.3v AIUI.
[14:59] <miceiken> is it resource hungry ripzay
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[14:59] <ripzay> the c# software (bearing in mind it's a debug build so isnt terribly efficients sits at about 2% cpu usage on a single core
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[15:00] <ripzay> no idea what the python server is costing me, haven't looked
[15:00] <ripzay> just looked, that's not so good
[15:00] <ripzay> 30% usage on the pi CPU
[15:00] <ripzay> :D
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[15:01] <gordonDrogon> but if the Pi is dedicated to the task, then it's not really an issue I'd have thought...
[15:01] <ripzay> correct
[15:01] <ripzay> hence why i haven't looked
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[15:03] <ripzay> only has one drawback at the moment for me, and that's that it doesnt work when fullscreen gaming, graphics adapters grant exclusive rights to the game that's running and i cant read the memory
[15:04] <ripzay> but there are ways in directx to do it by hooking into the fullscreen process
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[15:04] <ripzay> will do it when i get chance
[15:05] <ripzay> will probably also add an ambient light sensor to the pi to adjust the brightness based on the lighting of the room
[15:06] <gordonDrogon> need analog input..
[15:06] <gordonDrogon> maybe.
[15:06] <gordonDrogon> you can read an LDR without it though.
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[16:23] <Absalom> Hi, I installed Clozure common Lisp some months ago on my raspberry pi, and everything was working fine. But I havn't been using it for many weeks. Yesterday I tried to use it, and I got: CPU doesn't support required features
[16:23] <Absalom> I really don't see what changed!
[16:24] <Absalom> If I start it with strace, I see the following lines at the end:
[16:24] <Absalom> mmap2(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0xb6f58000
[16:24] <Absalom> read(3, "processort: 0nmodel namet: ARMv6"..., 1024) = 294
[16:25] <Absalom> read(3, "", 1024) = 0
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[16:25] <Absalom> close(3) = 0
[16:25] <Absalom> munmap(0xb6f58000, 4096) = 0
[16:25] <Absalom> write(2, "CPU doesn't support required fea"..., 38CPU doesn't support required features
[16:25] <Absalom> ) = 38
[16:26] <Absalom> Sorry for some escape characters that have been sripped on the IRC client, but you can get the idea :-(
[16:26] <gordonDrogon> pastebin ...
[16:26] <Absalom> OK, wait.
[16:26] <gordonDrogon> no, don't - you've done this now...
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[16:26] <gordonDrogon> but for next time...
[16:26] <Absalom> Ah, OK.
[16:27] <gordonDrogon> although knowing the file its opening might help - /proc/cpuinfo ?
[16:27] <gordonDrogon> but then again, I care little for lisp - maybe you ought to read their forums to see if anyone else has the same problem on the Pi?
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[16:28] <Absalom> Yes, but has there been some major update in Raspbian related to CPU?
[16:28] <gordonDrogon> No.
[16:28] <gordonDrogon> New kernels though, but I'd be surprised if that affected anything.
[16:29] <gordonDrogon> maybe the format of /proc/cpuinfo has changed. That line reads:
[16:29] <gordonDrogon> model name : ARMv6-compatible processor rev 7 (v6l)
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[16:30] <gordonDrogon> you could probably patch the binary to ignore the test...
[16:31] <Absalom> Hummm. Wouldn't it be easier to change fake the /proc/cpuinfo when launching my lisp version?
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[17:01] <Raynerd> Are most people using raspbian?
[17:02] <Raynerd> I'm just about to create a new sd and wondered what else was worth giving a go
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[17:03] <ppq> Raynerd: you should take a look at arch, too
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[17:04] <ppq> it's a little more lightweigth
[17:04] <Raynerd> Ok.. Thank you.
[17:04] <Raynerd> Ppq is that what you are running
[17:04] <ppq> yes
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[17:04] <ppq> it comes without X though
[17:05] <ppq> which i don't need anyway
[17:06] <Raynerd> Ahhh! I am a bit of a noob. So to clarify, that means no GUI??
[17:09] <gordonDrogon> yes.
[17:09] <gordonDrogon> but as far as I'm aware, most people are using Raspbian. What are you currently using?
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[17:13] <Raynerd> Raspbian gordonDrogon
[17:14] <Raynerd> Sorry, got disconnected
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[17:14] <Raynerd> I just got a pi camera... No sure what to actually do with it but need to set it up later
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[17:16] <Raynerd> gordonDrogon: Ate you running arch?
[17:16] <Raynerd> Are
[17:16] <gordonDrogon> Raynerd, no, Raspbian. Not interested in anything else as I've been running Debian on my desktop/laptop since more or less day 1.
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[17:17] <gordonDrogon> and same here - I got a Pi Camera, but not sure what to do with it yet...
[17:18] <Raynerd> Rasbian is based on Debian hence the name, right?
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[17:23] <ppq> yes
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[18:15] <projectdp> Raynerd: I use arch on my pi
[18:16] <projectdp> I've used many OS's on my PI's though :)
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[18:41] <Guegs> Would 5.15VDC be considered a good voltage?
[18:42] <pksato> Guegs: is ok to power RPi.
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[18:42] <gordonDrogon> is this what your PSU says, or what you measure?
[18:42] <Guegs> That is what I measured.
[18:43] <Guegs> PSU says 5.25V 1A
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[18:43] <gordonDrogon> it'll be fine. probably drop a bit when plugged in.
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[18:44] <Guegs> Cool. My last one measured 7.79. Thought it was a touch low.
[18:44] <Guegs> 4.79*
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[18:49] <Demon_Jester> hello everyone!
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[20:15] <Raynerd> I'm struggling to connect to my network via wifi!! Ifconfig shows no wlan0 ! Any help
[20:16] <Raynerd> Rt5370 shows in lsusb
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[20:17] <Raynerd> But scan is working and I can see my network, just can't make a proper connection
[20:18] <rikkib> default route? What does route say?
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[20:19] <rikkib> You should have line like this but for wlan0
[20:20] <rikkib> default 192.168.44.1 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 eth0
[20:20] <ShorTie> have you defind the essid to connect too ??
[20:21] <Raynerd> Yes, I don't
[20:21] <Raynerd> :-S
[20:22] <Raynerd> Ifconfig doesn't mention wlan0 at all
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[20:24] <rikkib> allow-hotplug wlan0
[20:24] <rikkib> iface wlan0 inet manual
[20:24] <rikkib> wpa-roam /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf
[20:24] <rikkib> iface default inet dhcp
[20:24] <ShorTie> i guess you are try to does this headless ??
[20:25] <Raynerd> Rikkib - are these instructions to type in terminal. I don't know any of those
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[20:26] <rikkib> That is the contents of /etc/network/interfaces
[20:26] <rikkib> on a default rapbian install
[20:26] <Raynerd> rikkib - I'm sorry, I don't understand what you are suggesting I do
[20:26] <Raynerd> ShorTie: - headless?
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[20:28] * ShorTie suggest installing tightvncserver and trying the preaty little icon on the desktop
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[20:29] <rikkib> The lines I pasted need adding to /etc/network/interfaces or something similar
[20:29] <rikkib> routing will come automatically if it works
[20:30] <rikkib> as long as wpa_supplicant.conf is set up correctly
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[20:31] <rikkib> you will still need to do something manually to make it go
[20:32] <Raynerd> Thanks rikkib, I'll add them but how do I check wpa_supplicant is setup
[20:32] * ShorTie loves auotmagically
[20:32] <rikkib> do some more reading on the Intertubes
[20:33] <rikkib> I have no wireless here so i am no expert sorry
[20:35] <Raynerd> Can I ask a really honest question and I don't want shooting down for this, but it is a real point. I have purchased these raspberry pis for students at school, 4 for the library. I don't understand why everything seems a challenge!! Like connecting wirless isn't a challenge for any computer these days, so why is it so with the raspberry pi. Adding proxys is easy, yet with the pi it seems long and convoluted!! I'm just
[20:35] <Raynerd> making a point... I do like them with the gpio but I don't know, something frustrates me. You can argue a point that I should have a better understanding but why, why is it such a challenge!!
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[20:37] <Raynerd> Rikkib - all those lines are already in interfaces!
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[20:38] <ShorTie> cause linux is fun and the root of hair pulling .. :)~
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[20:38] <MProg> _o/
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[20:38] <Raynerd> ShorTie: You know what... That answer is fine!!! I am enjoying it but I just wanted to check I wasn't missing something!! Honestly, I take that answer!
[20:39] <rikkib> Not to sure what to say... I have run Linux since around 1996-7... At first nothing was easy... Now not so hard at all.
[20:39] <koell> my pi runs now a few days. now i tried to ping --> destination host unreachable. wtf
[20:39] <Celerity> So... I have a raspberry pi. What cool stuff can I do with it
[20:39] <Celerity> Rather
[20:39] <Celerity> I'd love for ideas relating to rpi and car
[20:39] <Celerity> I'm drawing a blank here
[20:39] <koell> im sorry for swearing
[20:40] <MProg> real car Celerity ?
[20:40] <Celerity> yes
[20:40] <MProg> or RC car ? :p
[20:40] <Celerity> real car
[20:40] <MProg> GPS maybe
[20:40] <Raynerd> Celerity: Put it in the car???
[20:40] <Celerity> I already have a 1280x800 screen 7"
[20:40] <MProg> reversing cam
[20:40] <napos> is that like a celebrity celery .. celerity? :p
[20:40] <Raynerd> Celerity: Boot up your car with it password input
[20:40] <Celerity> reversing cam is done. I'm using dedicated hardware
[20:41] <Celerity> fuck... that's a brilliat idea ^
[20:41] <Raynerd> Celerity: Pc dash, control internal lights
[20:41] <MProg> mp3 player
[20:41] <ShorTie> it sure sounds like your trying all this headless, try installing tightvncserver so you can get to a desktop and use some of tools that are so generously included with raspbian
[20:42] <ShorTie> be nice Celerity, this is a family channel
[20:42] <Celerity> Raynerd - internal lights control would be coolness but not utility.
[20:42] <napos> a gps tracker in case the car gets stolen.. a gsm controlled webasto alternative.. there are tons of possibilities
[20:42] <MProg> "<Raynerd> Celerity: Boot up your car with it password input" be careful with that one
[20:42] <Celerity> ShorTie - noted. Will activate my PG-7 mode here. (I'm serious btw)
[20:42] <MProg> just in case something goes wrong :p
[20:42] <Celerity> MProg - Good point.
[20:43] <Celerity> The main issue I'm having here is it takes a ton of time to boot up
[20:43] <MProg> Oo
[20:43] <Celerity> I could rather get that done faster using a microcontroller
[20:43] <MProg> mine takes < 10 seconds
[20:43] <Celerity> wait what!
[20:43] <Celerity> mine takes, from pressing the power button till desktop easily 45-60 seconds
[20:43] <Raynerd> Mine takes about 15 secs
[20:43] <MProg> ah
[20:43] <Raynerd> Wtf you installed on it
[20:44] <MProg> I don't use a desktop
[20:44] <Celerity> Rasbian
[20:44] <Raynerd> What sd card.
[20:44] <Celerity> Class10 16gb
[20:44] <Celerity> toshiba
[20:44] <Raynerd> I've got rasbian and maplin 8gb class 20 and takes max 20
[20:44] <MProg> I'm using arch with a decent kingston sd card
[20:44] <Celerity> If this is going on a car, I do not want spinny storage
[20:44] <Raynerd> Mprog - you have unfair advantage then
[20:44] <gordonDrogon> Raynerd, please re-read the channel rules...
[20:44] <gordonDrogon> Raynerd, family friendly channel.
[20:45] <Raynerd> ???
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[20:45] <gordonDrogon> Channel Rules: http://tiny.cc/h7za1w
[20:45] <Raynerd> Was it not Celerity ??
[20:45] <Celerity> is there a class 20? I did not know.
[20:45] <Raynerd> I thought class 10 was top
[20:45] <Celerity> gordonDrogon - afaik I was the last person in this chan to not be family friendly, so to speak.
[20:45] <napos> class 10 is the max, but not all class 10 cards are created equal
[20:45] <MProg> xorg often isn't necessary
[20:46] <Celerity> oh man, then I need to benchmark my class 10 car.
[20:46] <gordonDrogon> abberviations are not considered family friendly.
[20:46] <Celerity> *card
[20:46] <Raynerd> Ahhh no, I did use a acronym! Didn't think about the words actually... Sorry
[20:46] <napos> i've got one class 10 that does 25mb/s and another does 10mb/s (the min for being a class 10)
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[20:47] <gordonDrogon> my experience is that a class 6 i faster.
[20:47] <gordonDrogon> class 10 are more optimised for streaming & the Pi does lots of random access to boot/run.
[20:47] <Celerity> we primarily need read speeds right?
[20:47] <MProg> random access
[20:47] <gordonDrogon> not really - primarily need random access speeds to be low.
[20:48] <Celerity> my card had a bit tragic write speed while installing the Rasbian (I remember it was around 1.7 to 4MB/s)
[20:48] <MProg> I didn't choose my SD card but it seems to work well enough
[20:48] <rikkib> I swear like a trooper but I am also a Ham so have to exercise self restraint.
[20:48] <Raynerd> What you guys using with the raspberrypi camera? Anything fun
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[20:48] <Raynerd> rikkib: Are you uk?
[20:48] <rikkib> NZ
[20:48] <rikkib> ZL
[20:49] <Raynerd> Ok, I got my intermediate licence a few years back
[20:49] <Celerity> Raynerd - hook it up to a car and do image/video processing for road lanes + trip event recorder
[20:49] <rikkib> Licensed in 1981 at age 21
[20:49] <Raynerd> Celerity: You into cars by any chance?
[20:49] <Celerity> not really
[20:49] <Raynerd> Fair enough
[20:49] <Celerity> I am into cool high tech stuff for cheap.
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[20:50] <rikkib> 54 in 19 days
[20:50] <Celerity> gordonDrogon - the link you provided has no results for 'acronym' or 'abbr'
[20:51] <gordonDrogon> indeed.
[20:52] <ShorTie> there is a nice RPi_Cam_Browser_Control_Installer.sh script that sets a rPi camera up into a video streaming server
[20:52] <ShorTie> apon reboot
[20:52] <Raynerd> ShorTie: May look into that
[20:52] <ShorTie> it's in the forums, so go for it
[20:53] <gordonDrogon> Celerity, however abreviations are not in the spirit of the channel rules, so frownd upon.
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[20:53] <MProg> is "lol" alright ? :x
[20:54] <Celerity> ah ok
[20:54] <gordonDrogon> MProg, as long as you genuinely laugh out loud in real life. If you ever utter it rather than doing an actual laugh, may you be struck down by whatever forces of lightening that may exist in your area...
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[20:54] <Celerity> forces of lightening?
[20:54] <gordonDrogon> whatever.
[20:55] <mervaka> omgwtfbbq?
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[20:55] <MProg> lightening... I thought god killed kittens :x
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[20:55] <Celerity> I am not fair, and you are making fun of me (lol)
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[20:55] <MProg> *lightning
[20:55] <mervaka> for the lulz :D
[20:55] <napos> use instead of lol http://i.imgur.com/0wyNr.gif :p
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[20:56] <Celerity> what about mandark funny?
[20:56] <gordonDrogon> what about if we're just nice and sensible about it all.
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[20:57] <Celerity> I need to really get working on lowering the boot times.
[20:57] <rikkib> lol
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[20:59] <MProg> I haven't read the rules, but just assumed there would be people of all ages here
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[21:01] <Celerity> MProg - regarding the "Transporter" style keycode ignition. It would seem that it'll be a bad idea to send the correct codes over the wire in plain text. It may need to be encrypted with a public-key based algorithm or a shared key one which can then be sent over SPI.
[21:01] <ShorTie> it doesn't hurt, just for yucks
[21:02] <Celerity> Also, one would expect the ignition lock to be operational as soon as the key is turned
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[21:09] <MProg> Celerity, just make sure you can override it somehow :p
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[21:10] <MProg> in a way that doesn't render the whole thing useless of course :p
[21:10] <Celerity> oh yeah. would be crazy if the rpi got stuck in a boot loop or something.
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[21:13] <Celerity> but I think the code should be simple enough that it doesn't get stuck. anyway I am not taking that chance now.
[21:14] <rikkib> watchdog
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[21:16] <MProg> an aging sd card could be enough to stop the pi booting
[21:16] <rikkib> but that to is not infallible
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[21:16] <rikkib> nfs root
[21:17] <rikkib> but the nfs server can fall over to
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[21:18] <MProg> IMO the pi shouldn't be used for anything too critical
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[21:18] <rikkib> but there are certain things one can do to make systems much more reliable
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[21:19] <MProg> yep
[21:19] <rikkib> I use rpi for security cam... it runs watchdog and boots from a nfs server
[21:19] <rikkib> but it does fall over once in a blue moon
[21:20] <rikkib> and impossible to get to the bottom of it.
[21:20] <MProg> :/
[21:20] <Celerity> since the ignition authentication sounds simple in concept and is a bit critical, I believe a microcontroller without an OS (relying just on polling) should be best.
[21:21] <rikkib> http://122.61.65.146:8081
[21:21] <Celerity> looks like an image stuck on loop?
[21:21] <Celerity> my net connection is a bit slow.
[21:22] <MProg> looks like mjpeg
[21:22] <rikkib> 320x240
[21:23] <rikkib> mjpeg stream best viewed in vlc
[21:23] <MProg> but yeah, as soon as I see the whole picture it starts refreshing again
[21:23] <Celerity> ok will fireup vlc
[21:23] <rikkib> 1fps
[21:24] <Celerity> it truly does look nicer in vlc
[21:24] <MProg> yep
[21:24] <MProg> much better in vlc ;)
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[21:24] <Celerity> can you put something in front of the camera?
[21:25] <Celerity> how high of an upload speed do I need for a set up like this?
[21:25] <MProg> 03:25 Oo
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[21:25] <rikkib> http://bencom.co.nz:8081
[21:26] <rikkib> That cam is on my desk
[21:26] <rikkib> 640x480 1fps
[21:26] <rikkib> I have 100K Bytes / second
[21:26] <MProg> PIs everywhere :D
[21:26] <Celerity> ah that's actually decent for a home connection
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[21:27] <rikkib> the other cam at the computer recycling company has similar adsl speed out
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[21:27] <Celerity> mine is a wimax so it shouldn't be a surprise that my upload is a bit slow.
[21:28] <rikkib> vlc will tell you what the bit rate is
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[21:28] <Celerity> ok
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[21:29] <MProg> got brighter
[21:29] <Celerity> statistics - 186 kb/s
[21:29] <rikkib> Bit more light
[21:29] <MProg> hand
[21:29] <rikkib> Opened the curtains
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[21:31] <rikkib> http://www.zlham.geek.nz/images/news/rpi-sys.jpg
[21:32] <MProg> strange power sockets in your country :p
[21:32] <rikkib> NZ standard
[21:32] <MProg> nz, ok ;p
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[21:33] <rikkib> 230v 10A domestic standard
[21:33] <rikkib> Nasty stuff
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[21:34] <MProg> nasty ?
[21:34] <rikkib> Had a few shocks including hand to hand
[21:34] <MProg> ah :p
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[21:34] <rikkib> That makes one sit up and take notice what you are doing
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[21:35] <rikkib> I opened up a record player once with the power turned on. Put my fingers under the edge to lift the top off and whack
[21:36] <napos> oh yea, 220v wakes you up
[21:36] <MProg> who needs coffee ? :p
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[21:37] <rikkib> No... Makes me sick
[21:38] <MProg> "who needs coffee ? :p" when you have 220v
[21:38] <MProg> :p
[21:38] <rikkib> after one cup a day after several days it triggers the allergic reaction
[21:38] <MProg> ah :p
[21:38] <MProg> I live on coffee :s
[21:38] <rikkib> I have never drunk coffee much
[21:39] <turtlehat> coffee is life
[21:39] <rikkib> so have never built up an immunity to it
[21:39] <turtlehat> before 9am
[21:39] <MProg> coffee is life ;p
[21:39] <napos> found out a local gourmet coffee place sells kopi luwak coffee.. 9€ a cup, but I want to try it
[21:39] <MProg> raspberry pi is life too ;p
[21:39] <MProg> coffee and pi :)
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[21:42] <turtlehat> much life,
[21:42] <turtlehat> such amaze
[21:42] <turtlehat> wow
[21:42] <turtlehat> but yes
[21:42] <turtlehat> it is
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[21:47] <napos> I was once asked at a job interview, what is the first thing a proper server admin does upon arriving at the office.. I said "make myself a cup of coffee, haha" etc.. i was told that was the answer they were looking for
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[21:49] <rikkib> Drug dependence of and sort is an issue for employers...
[21:50] <rikkib> any
[21:51] <napos> oh I didn't tell them about the drugs :D
[21:51] <rikkib> haha
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[21:52] * MProg checking the picture
[21:53] <MProg> "[20:53] <napos> use instead of lol http://i.imgur.com/0wyNr.gif :p"
[21:53] <MProg> just humorous
[21:53] <MProg> ok :p
[21:53] <napos> oh my
[21:54] <napos> to quote Sulu
[21:54] <MProg> :p
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[22:06] <Husar> hi, i have problem with resolution
[22:06] <Husar> http://imgup.pl/di/AGNG/2014-02-01-20.jpg - sides and top display smaller than should be
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[22:06] <Husar> have trying some settings with config.txt, but no success
[22:07] <Husar> (PI runs with openelec, but same problem with xbian)
[22:07] <paskl> go to system > appereance > and adjust the "zoom" option
[22:07] <paskl> I had to set mine to "-4%"
[22:08] <Husar> ok
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[22:15] <Husar> paskl: thx, this do job :)
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[22:18] <hugogee> is this channel publicly logged?
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[22:19] <linuxstb> Yes - http://srv.datagutt1.com
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[22:21] <paskl> you're welcome Husar
[22:22] <hugogee> linuxstb: Thank You!
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[22:50] <prodigel> hi all. I'm looking into using my PI as a remote controlled (IR/Android) player with google drive capabilities (there's where my music is stored these days). Did someone do this already? Can XBMC do all that?
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[23:31] <sbma44> hello all. trying to configure a simple little rpi appliance for a friend, building on raspbian and python. the intent is to periodically query the Nextbus API, and play a chime when the bus is a minute away from the stop outside his house. Works great from a shell. Not as much luck when running as a system service -- I can confirm that the process is running, and the python doesn't seem to be throwing any exceptions. But no sound
[23:31] <sbma44> plays. Perhaps it's living in a runlevel where alsa (or whatever else) doesn't exist? I have to admit that rc.d and linux sound in general are a bit mystifying to me.
[23:32] <sbma44> any tips on where I should be looking will be appreciated. otherwise I think the next step is to do a bunch more tedious logging from within the service, which I'm not looking forward to...
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[23:34] <sbma44> I should perhaps add that sound-playing is being done via common utilities (aplay and mpg321, depending on the filetype) dispatched from the subprocess module (wrapped in the envoy library)
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[23:36] <markedathome> sbma44: does the service have privileges to access audio? (eg in /etc/group) you can check by 'su - "svcuser"' where svcuser is the user that the service runs as
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[23:41] <sbma44> markedathome: I had thought that services would run as root by default when installed via update-rc.d -- hmm. I will try specifying the pi user through start-stop-daemon
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