#raspberrypi IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2014-02-09

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[0:00] <hojuruku> i'll give you the hint the app on the pi store starts with "fast..."
[0:00] <ShiftPlusOne> feel free to name, you'd be doing a favour rather than harming anyone
[0:00] <ShiftPlusOne> (though 'course you're talking about fastdosbox, I am guessing)
[0:00] <hojuruku> well i don't hate the dev ok
[0:01] <hojuruku> he's in africa :) and i tried version 1.0 for riscos (yes I been playing with riscos too)
[0:01] <hojuruku> fastdosbox
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[0:01] <hojuruku> i just need to double check if there is svn or not.. there is no tarball for the source it says "coming later"
[0:01] <hojuruku> that's why i didn't want to name too quickly but looking at the store there are other forks for $$$
[0:01] <ShiftPlusOne> http://gaming.capsule-sa.co.za/?gamepress_reviews=fastdosbox-for-raspberry-pi-raspbian-and-risc-os
[0:01] <hojuruku> yep
[0:01] <ShiftPlusOne> http://gaming.capsule-sa.co.za/downloads/fastdosbox-1.5_src.tar.gz
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[0:03] <ShiftPlusOne> If you do run into violating projects though, http://store.indiecity.com/report
[0:03] <hojuruku> oh i stand corrected it's been released since last week :)
[0:04] <hojuruku> oh shit. it's binary to come not source to come. bugger me i'm an arse. what a anti-climax.
[0:04] <hojuruku> well guys be vigilant don't let it become like the android app store that's waht i'm saying ;)
[0:05] <ShorTie> wolf3d, thats a oldie but goodie
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[0:05] <pksato> ?
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[0:06] <ShiftPlusOne> Just a reminder though, family friendly channel.
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[0:08] <hid3> greetings everyone
[0:08] <hid3> hi ShiftPlusOne
[0:08] <ShiftPlusOne> ahoy
[0:08] <hid3> What is the local time where you live at the moment? It seems you're available here 24x7 :)
[0:09] <ShiftPlusOne> I keep clones around
[0:09] <ShiftPlusOne> (it's 10am)
[0:09] <hid3> oh..
[0:10] <hid3> any clues what's the max power drain of a Pi with max CPU+GPU usage?
[0:10] <ShiftPlusOne> don't remember exactly, but it's in the 500mA regionish
[0:10] <rikkib> Floating point exception
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[0:10] <rikkib> Oh dear
[0:11] <hid3> let it be ~700 mA
[0:11] <hid3> 0.7*5
[0:11] <hid3> 3,5W
[0:11] <hid3> not quite much at all
[0:12] <hid3> great :)
[0:12] <ShiftPlusOne> can cut about a third off if you don't need usb
[0:12] <ShiftPlusOne> which... everyone does anyway >.>
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[0:14] <harris> does anyone have an exel document of their parts that they can upload
[0:15] <ShorTie> nop, cause it all depends on what your building
[0:15] <ShorTie> and you never have the right part for the project
[0:15] <harris> i just want an inventory system of my parts
[0:16] * ShorTie hands harris paper and pencil
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[0:18] <pksato> start a new spreadsheet. A old paper or on moderm computer program like supercalc/visicalc. :)
[0:20] <Macuser> https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1385270522/iss-above
[0:21] <ShorTie> visical, the original spread sheet, cool
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[0:23] <hojuruku> ShiftPlusOne, are you an Aussie?
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[0:23] <ShiftPlusOne> yes sir
[0:23] <Foxhoundz> can I use the RPi as a NAS?
[0:23] <Foxhoundz> NAS server, that is
[0:23] <Foxhoundz> I have a 500GB External hard drive
[0:23] <ShiftPlusOne> yes, but not a very good one
[0:24] <Foxhoundz> what would be the bottleneck?
[0:24] <ShiftPlusOne> usb bandwidth
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[0:24] <ShiftPlusOne> since network traffic goes over usb as well
[0:25] <ShiftPlusOne> so if you are reading a file from the hard drive and sending it over the network, the speeds aren't great.
[0:25] <Foxhoundz> hmm makes sense :(
[0:26] <hojuruku> ShiftPlusOne, I used to go to slug.org.au from 96-99 - but now I'm a UNHCR confirmed (on letterhead -see my scribd.com/luke_mckee) refugee from Australia and it's GLLO NSW Police GAY SEX purple shirt wearing pink-triangle.org nazi deathcamp symbolism badge wearing police. http://tinyurl.com/homocopvictim for the video montage. As interviewed on topher.com.au, truthnews.com.au, infowars.com, and Vinny Eastwood show' in NZ. A genuine political refugee fro
[0:26] <hojuruku> m insane political correctness and gay politics (yes special gay police admitted to on secure.nsw.gov.au and glrl.org.au) - And to make matters worse this year's Australia's rugby union football captian Tui Ormsby (womens walleroos) who arrested me (a gay copper) is in the UK papers for lesbian domestic violence almost occasioning in death (UK MIRROR boosted by a lesbian tiff). Reality is stranger than fiction eh ShiftPlusOne?
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[0:27] <hojuruku> ShiftPlusOne, i'll get revenge against Australia soon. I found where every government offical lived with a lawful example of "hackingA" (didn't break crimes act section 308H) http://tinyurl.com/strathfield - and on my scribd you'll see i put the home address of the lord mayor of Sydney clover moore (38 kepos street redfern) in her own handwriting. I'm going to use the data to unmask every troll account government political staffers run :P i have all the
[0:27] <hojuruku> ir mobiles and email addressess so I"ll find all their twitter and FB accounts :0
[0:28] <harris> someone please type the ohm symbol so i can copy and paste it
[0:28] <ShiftPlusOne> harris, just google it
[0:29] <pksato> ISS-Above can be improved adding a radio reciever (rtlsdr) to listen eventual talk to some HAM on near or view SSTV images.
[0:29] <hojuruku> https://www.facebook.com/ArmyAnonymous/posts/10152571265888378 more details of how and why I found where every government offical lives in NSW Australia :)
[0:30] <ShiftPlusOne> hojuruku, this isn't the channel for that
[0:30] <hojuruku> anonymous actually got a zdnet article for attempting to do what I did a year before.. but when I do it media blackout.
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[0:30] <hojuruku> oh nevermind.. you are From Australia land of gay police I just thought i'd let you know as a refugee from your shithole of a country. That being said I love the pi and i'm busy making a new distro for it now. sabyon.org :)
[0:31] <ShorTie> be nice now
[0:31] <ShiftPlusOne> you've been told about the language policy on the channel as well.
[0:31] <hojuruku> hey i bet he doesn't support the government of Australia either, unfortunately he jsut lives there.
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[0:36] <hojuruku> everyone please be nice to the refugee... i'm lucky to survive what was done to me. Everyone else accused of 60c nsw crimes act before me is a death in custody. (60c is a wistleblower death order). tinyurl.com/60c-stats 100% conviction rate (2 cases rarest crime in Australia) no case law and first "outlaw motorcycle bikie gang trageted" legislation in the country. Every day when Shiftone wakes up he sees OLMG this OLMG that in the news, as american see
[0:36] <hojuruku> terrorists. They have "see soething say something". We have "dob in a bikie". Then gay rights activist and policitian Senator Lee Rhiannon said in Hansard "only corrupt police would use 60C to provide a running cover for their corrupt acts". It's not my fault that only NSW GLLO Gay sex police rose to her expectations as what is corrupt. (anyone who knows australia knows what i'm saying is true). Enough said. You call all read the links and PM me. Now mo
[0:36] <hojuruku> ving on :P let's talk about PI accelerated FB drivers.
[0:37] <hojuruku> there are different svn patches to accelerate the rasberry pi framebuffer? which one is best?
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[0:43] <hojuruku> i would release gentoo for the pi noobs zip... but the problem is the gentoo latest stage 3 tarball is pretty crap. i could knock up a funtoo on using their offical image. i don't think anyone has done this yet.
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[3:03] <harris> is this the least expenisve 40 drawer storage http://www.harborfreight.com/40-bin-organizer-with-full-length-drawer-94375.html
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[4:13] <harris> anyone wanna post a pic of their workstation'
[4:14] <ShiftPlusOne> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/175702/2013-06-05%2000.23.08.jpg
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[4:14] <harris> ShiftPlusOne, where you keep your electronic componets
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[4:16] <ShiftPlusOne> scattered all over the place https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/175702/desk.jpg
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[4:17] <DeliriumTremens> at least you have plenty of cat5/6 at your desk
[4:17] <ShiftPlusOne> yup
[4:18] <harris> i need drawers for my parts http://pastebin.com/sXUqFaW7
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[4:25] <tapout> hey fellas, which xbmc install is the best for the pi?
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[4:26] <tapout> the raspbmc or openelec?
[4:26] <ShiftPlusOne> it's a matter of preference
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[4:27] <tapout> i'd like to run Qt apps inside where i do transitions and what not
[4:27] <tapout> ideally, i'm far from that
[4:27] <tapout> but ... yeah
[4:28] <ShiftPlusOne> would these 'apps' be xbmc plugins?
[4:28] <tapout> i'm guessing that is how it works
[4:28] <tapout> i've only seen them on Youtube
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[5:37] <amigojapan> hey guys, there is something wrong with the rpi's .net, I narrowed it down, textboxes are not working for windows forms.... the same program works on my ubuntu computer
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[5:38] <ShiftPlusOne> amigojapan, yeah
[5:40] <amigojapan> ShiftPlusOne: I even dwongraded the version of .net to 2.0, I thought maybe the older version would work better, but that was not the problem aparently
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[5:41] <ShiftPlusOne> Is this the specific issue you're having? https://bugzilla.xamarin.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17013
[5:43] <amigojapan> let me see ShiftPlusOne
[5:44] <amigojapan> yes ShiftPlusOne yes, precicely!
[5:44] <amigojapan> ok, at least it is reported...
[5:45] <ShiftPlusOne> Yup, the powers that be are well aware of it
[5:46] <amigojapan> thanks ShiftPlusOne
[5:46] <ShiftPlusOne> np
[5:47] <amigojapan> ShiftPlusOne: should I try recompiling mono from source? perhaps that would solve the problem, I dont know
[5:47] <ShiftPlusOne> if it was that easy, I think it would've been in raspbian by now
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[5:47] <amigojapan> ok
[5:47] <ShiftPlusOne> but I don't know.
[5:48] <ShiftPlusOne> someone in raspbian was planning to compile from source and was sure that it would work just fine
[5:48] <ShiftPlusOne> I have my doubts
[5:48] <amigojapan> ok, I will try, since I have nothing really to do today, and I am snowed in anyway :)
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[5:52] <mjkr> now that i heard the ethernet port on rpi is actually wired to usb, which means high bandwidth -> high cpu usage, -
[5:53] <mjkr> i wonder if ethernet-from-thunderbolt could avoid this?
[5:53] <ShiftPlusOne> how?
[5:54] <mjkr> design a new board and replace usb with thunderbolt
[5:54] <ShiftPlusOne> oh
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[5:55] <ShiftPlusOne> If they were going to design a new board to solve that problem it would be much more sensible to just separate out usb and the NIC.
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[6:03] <mjkr> so, thunderbolt doesn't matter here?
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[6:07] <ShiftPlusOne> either way, it sounds like would require tinkering with the BCM chip itself (which 'course would cost them many millions)
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[6:54] <hojuruku> mono compiling from source
[6:54] <hojuruku> rasberry pi
[6:54] <hojuruku> OXY MORON!
[6:55] <hojuruku> how much ram has a pi got after the gpu has taken it's slice (i got a geode same deal as well as a pi)
[6:55] <hojuruku> how much ram do you need to compile mono
[6:55] <hojuruku> i'm setting up a buildhost now to cross compile pi stuff.. crossdev.. but i still got to run some of the build scripts / compile jobs in the pi
[6:56] <hojuruku> what's the best arm emulator that can do a pie?
[6:56] <ShiftPlusOne> qemu
[6:56] <hojuruku> and let's just call a pi a friggen set top box. because that's what the hardware is. it's cheap, it's mass produced, but not for the educational market.
[6:56] <hojuruku> i wonder if xen can help qemu emulate arm? probably not
[6:57] <ShiftPlusOne> not sure how it would
[6:57] <hojuruku> wine + qemu + xen is amazing stuff.. goodbye windows terminal server. hello linux.
[6:57] <ShiftPlusOne> as far as left over memory goes, that'll depend on your gpu split
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[6:57] <hojuruku> ShiftPlusOne, i was thinking the same. Qemu runs like a dog. and i'm going to run it on my vps first.
[6:58] <hojuruku> how does the dynamic gpu split go now? where's the document on the new CWM kernels
[6:58] <ShiftPlusOne> dynamic gpu split is not advised or supported
[6:59] <hojuruku> i have a bug on the pi playing http iptv streams in openelec.. it's either the gpu ... or the streaming engine
[6:59] <ShiftPlusOne> http://elinux.org/RPiconfig#CMA_-_Dynamic_Memory_Split
[6:59] <hojuruku> HLS streaming it only plays the first segment which is my case only 12 seconds.. how much gpu ram do you need to decode SDTV video
[7:00] <hojuruku> oxmplayer is running is hitting an EOF so i don't think it's the gpu as i first thought. It's the streaming engine in xbmc and they haven't fixed the bug with HLS streaming yet contary to what github says
[7:00] <hojuruku> there are some vietnamese channel https streams i can show you work fine in VLC - die in xbmc
[7:01] <hojuruku> i'll give you the link you can all watch HBO for free haha :)
[7:01] <hojuruku> start.elf contains the opengl ES stuff or god forbid is it in rom?
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[7:03] <ShiftPlusOne> don't know if it's start .elf, but it is in one of the files on the boot partition
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[7:21] <yehnan> Hello, I have a question. From Windows-PuTTY- USB-to-Serial converter - rpi's GPIO(TX/RX), I can login via /dev/ttyAMA0. However, once directly close PuTTY window, I can never use PuTTY again to connect. What could I do?
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[7:24] <amigojapan> yehnan: why dont you use a LAN cable to hook up both the computer and the raspberry pi?
[7:25] <amigojapan> yehnan: or even better, thru a router is the ideal way
[7:26] <yehnan> amigojapan: It's learning
[7:26] <amigojapan> oko
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[7:27] <yehnan> If I ssh into rpi now, I would see the connection via ttyAMA0 is still there.
[7:29] <yehnan> If kill that connection, still can't connect using putty.
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[7:40] <hojuruku> ShiftPlusOne, start.elf is 3mb in the openelec version and only 2mb from git. i'm very confused
[7:42] <hojuruku> Is that ALL the firmware from the GPU.. I head that openglES stuff is in ROM.. yes disgusting wrong evil NO... Without an opensource GPU rasberry pi isn't an open platform. many have critiquted the rasberry pi foundation for choosing broadcom of all people. for god sake even a chinese "dragon" MIPS that have now licensed the stuff they need to to have a fully compliance MIPS platform would be better
[7:42] <hojuruku> and like the pi made in china with NO licensing fees... most of the cost of building computer is taxes
[7:42] <hojuruku> patent taxes
[7:43] <hojuruku> i've done an interview in a jewish patent law firm in Australia. I'll let another jew describe how disgusting they are. Everyone know dan bertstine of qmail.org fame at http://cr.yp.to/ you should see his blog tearing them a new one. Most of the cost of CPU is licensing fees not production costs.
[7:43] <hojuruku> # OLPC knows this
[7:44] <amigojapan> hojuruku: I am jewish, and I fail to see what this has to do with jewdaism
[7:44] <amigojapan> judaism*
[7:47] <hojuruku> oh never mind.
[7:47] <hojuruku> patent law...
[7:47] <hojuruku> just patent law.
[7:47] <amigojapan> ok
[7:48] <hojuruku> ADL is almost as bad as GLAAD.org. i better shut up. they got duck dynatsty shut down they can shut me down :)
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[7:50] <hojuruku> it's like in Australia all CDMA phones could only be imported by one family. Nobody else was allowed to import them. Roaming customers ok, but the 3 telecos could only sell phones from tele/tech pacific later sold to ingram micro. any australian knows this is true. your esn number must be pre-registered as a sold by a jew family phone (hagamiers group). how do i know? I worked next door at utilux.com , now part of tyco. I can dig up an old link to the A
[7:50] <hojuruku> CMA's predecessor AUSTEL saying you may not import CDMA phones on a government website... well the question was who could get around that? . ah yes.
[7:51] <hojuruku> they are a dutch trading house. It's amazing that in this day and age there are many monopolies still thriving. Just like the opium wars.
[7:51] <hojuruku> and right now... are computer hardware is subject to the same fate. NDAs etc. even the poor rasberry pi doesn't escape.
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[7:53] <hojuruku> AMPS was turned off. everyone went to CMDA.. then CDMA was turned off so only 4-5 years everyone had to go buy a new phone. These ones had sim cards thank god so no monopolies on import, at least not that i know of.
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[7:55] <AbbyTheRat> That's a convo that's seem widely seperated from raspberry pi
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[7:56] <hojuruku> i'm actually trying to dig up the old link from Austel.. ok ok i wont go on a tangent. But truth be told if you wanted a cheaper platform that the rasberry pi there is - and it will be cheaper due to no patent fees that go to ....
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[7:57] <hojuruku> has anyone done a study on what percentage of chip wafer costs go to licensee's not into producing the silicon?
[7:57] <yehnan> Strang. I can successfully connect again now. Well, thanks.
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[7:58] <hojuruku> i'm not alone. Remember China got sick of their cheap DVD's being seized at customs for not paying IT patent @#$#@$ taxes.. so they tried to make the EVD - based on opensource video codecs like ogg/theroa
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[7:58] <hojuruku> rasberry pi could have done a great step saying NO to the Patent lawyer Mafia and choosing an open platform.
[7:59] <hojuruku> guess being an english mob it's no wonder they chose ARM ;)
[7:59] <hojuruku> I as a FOSS nazi would choose the chinese dragon or something like that. There are lots of other options though.
[7:59] <hojuruku> MIPS.
[7:59] <hojuruku> (with no licensing)
[8:00] <SpeedEvil> hojuruku: this is all very, very off-topic - and bannable if an op notices. I would suggest you leave, or quit with all the off-topic shit.
[8:01] <AbbyTheRat> a very thin link to raspberry pi stuff.. too thin
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[8:01] <AbbyTheRat> it's like reading a conspitery(sp?) theory
[8:03] <hojuruku> no i'm busy working on the rasberry pi port of sabayon right now.
[8:03] <hojuruku> and it's not bannable to wish that Rasberry PI really supported FOSS free and open soruce.
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[8:03] <hojuruku> what is and is not the law isn't a conspiracy theory. Remember that.
[8:04] <SpeedEvil> Wishing Pi was more open - great. The rest of it - very very very off topic.
[8:04] <hojuruku> i made a point. I backed it up by China making their own CPU's and DVDs not subject from patent law.. and you guys make a GPU we have to get license codes just to use.
[8:05] <hojuruku> that being said it's damn cheap and has basic and makes a nice front end to what i'm doing in vietnam
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[8:05] <hojuruku> the people at OLPC are too FOSS - :) they don't support windows apps with their system. i'm making a linux windows terminal server clone to work with rasberry pi as thin client for schools in vietnam
[8:05] <hojuruku> and a linux distro to boot that i'm testing now which is great :)
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[8:07] <hojuruku> so I can be banned for whishing we don't pay massive CPU taxes to people who do patent fraud that Mr http://Cr.Yp.To talks about? How much of the rasberry pi goes to broadcom and how much from broadcom goes to those who can not be named.
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[8:07] <hojuruku> but it's not on topic.. no no .. it's got nothing to do with the rasberry pi. nothing to see here please move along ;)
[8:08] <hojuruku> how much of the $$$ from the rasberrry pi sales i mean
[8:09] <hojuruku> because operating a simens siplace.com or other circut board fab facility isn't that expensive with all those cheap chinese labors at foxxconn killing themsevles.. oh yes i lived in china and i drove past the factory when it became news ne zuhai. .. most of the cost of the pi is going to come from it's memory and most of all from the arm cpu gpu core. to keep the costs down thats why to have a fully fledged pi you have to pay $10 pounds (25 bucks) more
[8:09] <hojuruku> in patent taxes... so it's a 30$ computer.. but it costs double as much if you finish paying patent taxes. See i'm onto something here.
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[8:10] <hojuruku> i'm talking about buying codecs. you are not buying a codec. you are paying patent fees to use is what ments to be a standard.
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[8:12] <hojuruku> before bill gates 10101010101010101110101010 couldn't be patented as artwork under copyright law. because 10101010101 is not inteligable to humans. he lots 3 times before he sued people who were copying his basic roms and not sending him money for stealing basic from someone else (patent fraud).. and here we are today.. high costs of computer equipment keeping the poor 3rd world where i live without them.. and everyone playing speculation with their hou
[8:12] <hojuruku> sing price so the post baby boomer geneartion are 30% unemployed. proof that bill gates the richest man in the world now can copyright binary stuff is the rasberry pi gpu.
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[8:13] <ShiftPlusOne> I leave for 5 minutes are you guys are already blaming the jews for everything?
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[8:18] <ShorTie> blaaa, fatal error: nofun.h: No such file or directory compilation terminated.
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[9:41] <amigojapan> the make process for mono on hte raspberry pi is taking forver...
[9:42] <Chaz6> It would be faster to cross-compile it on an intel or amd cpu
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[9:42] <amigojapan> right Chaz6 , but I already started it
[9:43] <amigojapan> Chaz6: I dont know hwo to cross compile....
[9:43] <ShorTie> what is your definition of forever ??
[9:44] <amigojapan> ShorTie: let me look at the chat long. and I will tell you
[9:44] <ShorTie> something that a good nap couldn't handle ??
[9:45] <amigojapan> [13:46] amigojapan ShiftPlusOne: should I try recompiling mono from source? perhaps that would solve the problem, I dont know, it is not 17:44
[9:45] <amigojapan> so from 13:44 to 17:44
[9:45] <ShiftPlusOne> heh
[9:45] <ShorTie> oh boy, 4 hours
[9:46] * ShorTie guesses amigojapan has never played with Gentoo
[9:46] <amigojapan> ok, if someone tels me how to cross compile on an intel for raspbian, I will try it
[9:46] <amigojapan> nope ShorTie
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[9:49] <ShorTie> not to offend ya, but it sounds like your just impatient to me
[9:49] <ShorTie> take a nap, lol.
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[9:49] <Chaz6> I think compiling mono on a pi is going to take days
[9:50] <amigojapan> ShorTie: actually, I just worke up from a nap
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[9:50] <amigojapan> ok Chaz6 , I will look at cross compiling
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[9:51] <Chaz6> Definitely worth looking at if you're building large projects on the pi
[9:51] <amigojapan> ok Chaz6 thanks
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[9:55] <kevireilly> Hey there. I'm pretty new to Raspberry Pi and am unsure where to start when it comes to determining how to best go about a particular goal. I know how to program, how to solder, and otherwise don't know much about hardware, volts, amps, current, and the like. Is there somewhere someone might recommend I start researching/reading wise?
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[9:56] <kevireilly> I have determined that the first project I'd like to do involves turning a regular wall light switch on and off utilizing essentially bluetooth proximity based notifications of entering or exiting a region
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[9:57] <kevireilly> perhaps I should start with something smaller like turning on or off an LED?
[9:58] <ShorTie> that might be more safer
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[9:59] <ShorTie> turning a regular light on/off is gonna involve some sort of relay
[9:59] <ShorTie> no biggy, just that your messing with high voltage
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[10:00] <turtlehat> highER
[10:00] <kevireilly> avoid the risk of electrocution doesn't sound like as much fun haha
[10:00] <turtlehat> hv isnt until 1000v
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[10:01] <kevireilly> *avoiding
[10:01] <ShorTie> and can be done with a optocoupler as your first device, which is nothing more then turning a led on/off
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[10:02] <amigojapan> kevireilly: LED is simple, ground to LED to resistor to pin, is the hardware set up
[10:02] <kevireilly> amigojapan: so that would be something closer to the other goal?
[10:03] <amigojapan> kevireilly: software size, you can set the pin to high and low with a for loop, I think you can do that using python in the rpi
[10:03] <kevireilly> ShorTie: I was looking at this as a relay http://www.adafruit.com/products/1038 and was curious if I was on the right path.. but then saw a picture on how assembly may be required and realized I have no idea what i'm doing ;)
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[10:03] <kevireilly> amigojapan: ah yeah, that part will be the easiest.. software side isn't a problem, it is definitely hardware side where i've no clue
[10:04] <amigojapan> kevireilly: the softwaer for turning on and off an LED would be the same as for an LED, the hardware woudl be different
[10:04] <amigojapan> kevireilly: I mean, it would be the same software for LED and home light
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[10:05] <kevireilly> amigojapan: gotcha gotcha.. the communication part seems super easy once you got the proper hardware setup with appropriate wiring
[10:05] <ShorTie> nop, don't think that will get it
[10:05] <amigojapan> kevireilly: for a home light, you could use a relay, or some kind of transistor to work as a swich (or aplifyer)
[10:05] <turtlehat> triac
[10:06] <kevireilly> something like this? http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/271330709911?lpid=82
[10:06] <kevireilly> or any particular recommendations on a relay
[10:06] <kevireilly> i will definitely start smaller, but going to eventually be curious / could order it now
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[10:07] <amigojapan> kevireilly: https://projects.drogon.net/raspberry-pi/gpio-examples/tux-crossing/gpio-examples-1-a-single-led/
[10:07] <amigojapan> let me see kevireilly
[10:07] <ShorTie> depending on the light, this might be the safest/easiest way, http://www.adafruit.com/products/268
[10:07] <amigojapan> kevireilly: 10 dollars seems to me to be extremly expensive for a relay
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[10:08] <SpeedEvil> For 5 relasy
[10:09] <SpeedEvil> err
[10:09] <SpeedEvil> 4
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[10:10] <ShorTie> or sumfin like this would work fine, but it is up to you not to get shocked, http://www.ebay.com/itm/1-Channel-5V-Relay-expansion-board-Module-High-Level-Triger-for-Arduino-AVR-PIC-/181219706599?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2a318946e7
[10:10] <kevireilly> sorry, me still trying to load the pages... chrome be tripping
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[10:11] <kevireilly> ShorTie: ah, yeah I saw that one, but it looks too easy if that makes sense haha
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[10:13] <kevireilly> so i should definitely get a break out board, yeah?
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[10:13] <kevireilly> err bread board
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[10:14] <turtlehat> definitely if oyu want to twiddle circuits :)
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[10:15] <ShorTie> thats totally up to you and how you want to play
[10:16] <ShorTie> i just use old floppy cables .. :)~
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[10:18] <kevireilly> ah, it is the same cable? hmm that could get me started quick.. i think I actuall have some leds sitting around somewhere also
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[10:21] <kevireilly> missing a resistor though. welp, also just remembered there is an electronic store not too far away that i can stop at tomorrow and see what they have :)
[10:22] <turtlehat> i think you need to rearrange the connectors of the cable, but i could be wrong
[10:24] <ShorTie> see, sumfin like this, https://www.dropbox.com/s/44llq11uhhyyq8g/IMAG0004.JPG
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[10:25] <turtlehat> yea
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[10:26] <kevireilly> ah gotcha. Mmm.. breadboard and raspberry pi
[10:27] <kevireilly> what is the other IO looking thing on the pi?
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[10:28] <ShorTie> sorry, kinda lost on what your talking about there
[10:28] <kevireilly> parallel with the SD slot, perpendicular to the GPIO
[10:28] <turtlehat> jtag perhaps
[10:28] <kevireilly> also the one in between the HDMI and NIC
[10:29] <turtlehat> jtag
[10:29] <turtlehat> perpendicular to the gpio is a camera header
[10:29] <ShorTie> those are special things, that you can not really use as a end user
[10:29] <kevireilly> ah sweet, thanks turtlehat
[10:30] <ShorTie> the 1 by the nic is where the rPi camera plugs into
[10:30] <turtlehat> np kevireilly, http://www.xenstreet.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/raspberrypi.jpg
[10:30] <ShorTie> a device for the other i think is in the works, but not out yet
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[10:39] <amigojapan> Chaz6 It would be faster to cross-compile it on an intel or amd cpu<--- is there any tool that will take a normal source packare in ./configure;make;make install form and instead of compiling for intel will compile for the PI?
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[10:40] <kevireilly> delicious
[10:42] <turtlehat> amigojapan, maybe this http://bvrde.sourceforge.net/
[10:42] <turtlehat> but im not sure it does local compiling
[10:42] <turtlehat> *can do
[10:42] <amigojapan> let me see turtlehat , thanks
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[10:43] <amigojapan> no turtlehat I doubt an IDE is what I am looking for, I am looking for something like what they used to recompile the packages of the rpi
[10:44] <turtlehat> yea i was wondering
[10:44] <turtlehat> perhaps distcc then
[10:44] <turtlehat> or something
[10:44] <turtlehat> you want to compile elsewhere cause its slow, right?
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[10:44] <ShorTie> i don't think remote compiling is the same as cross compiling
[10:45] <turtlehat> no thats not what i meant
[10:45] <turtlehat> i hjust didnt know if bvrde had the ability
[10:45] <turtlehat> to set up a local compiler
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[10:45] <ShorTie> that just looks like a fancy ssh client to me
[10:45] <turtlehat> it is
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[10:48] <amigojapan> oh well, the rpi crashed during the make process... ok, at least I dont need to worry about looking for how to cross compile it :)
[10:49] <ShorTie> bummer
[10:50] <ShorTie> crash as how, like a compiler error ??
[10:50] <ShorTie> you can just fix the error and pickup from there
[10:50] <amigojapan> ShorTie: I will pastebin the last few lines of the error
[10:51] <amigojapan> ShorTie: http://pastebin.com/2QuA97Xh
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[10:53] <ShorTie> maybe, http://mono.1490590.n4.nabble.com/Compiling-mono-on-ARM-fails-td4660930.html
[10:53] <kevireilly> quick question, on this tutorial they use ping #23 and #18 -- is there any particular reason or is it an arbitrary decision?
[10:54] <kevireilly> http://learn.adafruit.com/raspberry-pi-e-mail-notifier-using-leds/wire-leds
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[10:54] <turtlehat> as long as you pick the gpio pins you should be fine
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[10:55] <ShorTie> amigojapan, you using a tarball or git for your sources ??
[10:55] <turtlehat> any of those should do
[10:55] <amigojapan> ShorTie: tarball
[10:55] <kevireilly> turtlehat: gotcha, and same with the hole choice for negative?
[10:55] <turtlehat> gnd and vcc should be the same
[10:55] <ShorTie> ah, try git then http://www.cubieforums.com/index.php?topic=1439.0
[10:55] <amigojapan> let me see ShorTie
[10:56] <kevireilly> turtlehat: gotcha. and the other side of ground (other side of the resistors, right?) are in specific holes according to some spec I don't yet understand?
[10:56] <kevireilly> oh.. on the blue thing (cobbler?) it matches the label for #23 and #18
[10:56] <turtlehat> check the gpio pin map for the rpi
[10:56] <turtlehat> all the pins have names
[10:57] <turtlehat> the io pins can be interchanged, vcc and gnd are supplies
[10:57] <amigojapan> ShorTie: what is cubian?
[10:57] <kevireilly> roger
[10:58] <ShorTie> don't know, but from the name i would guess a version of debian for the cubie board
[10:58] <ShorTie> but the point is, git has all the lastest fixes
[10:59] <ShorTie> you should always use git if there is 1, imho
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[11:03] <amigojapan> ShorTie: ok, I did not kno it was on git, I will try it out, but some other time, I rather get my mind off this now
[11:03] <amigojapan> ShorTie: thanks for pointing me to this document
[11:04] <ShorTie> hint, start it before you go off to work, hehe
[11:04] <amigojapan> yeah ShorTie ... I will probably start it and leave it running for a few days with no hup....
[11:05] <ShorTie> or nother option
[11:05] <ShorTie> have more then 1 play toy
[11:05] <amigojapan> right
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[11:13] <ShorTie> amigojapan, MrGreens post in that 2nd link on how to compile might be worth looking at
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[11:26] * ShorTie for yucks gonna try it in arch, hope i got enough sdcard left, lol.
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[11:53] <amigojapan> let me see ShorTie
[11:54] <amigojapan> oh you mean this ShorTie ? thanks http://blog.hexad.dk/2013/11/mono-323-on-synology-ds210.html
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[12:14] <local> hey all.I have installed the raspi cam, and I can do pcitures with raspi-still. I know the cam is working. I want to use "fsweb" but don't know my device name. There is no /dev/video0 or similar. How can I find out?
[12:15] <tkonto> Hi all.... I know what I need but not what to search for. I have a home CentOS server used among other things for streaming to RPis... Can I create the database on that fast machine and have it shared to RPis? I am running raspbmc on the Pis
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[12:17] <Davespice> morning all
[12:19] <tkonto> morning
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[12:23] <ShiftPlusOne> tkonto, is this what you're after? http://wiki.xbmc.org/index.php?title=HOW-TO:Share_libraries_using_MySQL
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[12:24] <x29a> local: the rpi cam doesnt create such a device
[12:24] <x29a> look at the source of raspi-still
[12:24] <ShiftPlusOne> Unless you're using the v4l driver.
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[12:26] <x29a> oh, i didnt know it was supported by v4l
[12:27] <ShiftPlusOne> I don't know the state of v4l for the pi camera or where to get the driver. Last I checked it was all very experimental. Check the forum.
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[12:30] <tkonto> ShiftPlusOne: thank you
[12:30] <ShiftPlusOne> np
[12:31] <local> x29a: ShiftPlusOne: so you mean I first have to create/install the drivers somehow?
[12:32] <local> I think I check deb http://www.linux-projects.org/listing/uv4l_repo/raspbian/ wheezy main
[12:32] <local> repo
[12:33] <ShiftPlusOne> http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=62364
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[12:57] <mrded> hey guys, can you help me with this question? http://www.raspberrypi.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=44&t=68963&p=502485#p502485
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[13:04] <SpeedEvil> In general, it's sensible to at least type a precis of the question, rather than expecting 360 people to click
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[13:17] <kevireilly> Any ideas on how one might go about communicating with a raspberry pi behind a router without the ability to utilize port forwarding?
[13:17] <mrded> I just bought LCD screen which connects via gpio. And I'm a bit confused with some ports.
[13:17] <ShiftPlusOne> kevireilly, reversessh, vtun, openvpn
[13:18] <kevireilly> ShiftPlusOne: gracias
[13:18] <ShiftPlusOne> (in order of difficulty to set up)
[13:18] <kevireilly> lowest to highest?
[13:18] <ShiftPlusOne> yes sir
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[13:19] <kevireilly> i probably should have mentioned that I was looking to make an HTTP request from an iOS client, though that implementation can definitely change
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[13:22] <kevireilly> seems i either need to port forward or have a public middleman
[13:22] <ShiftPlusOne> yup
[13:22] <ShiftPlusOne> if the 'client's IP is also behind a firewall, then you're going to need a server to go through
[13:24] <kevireilly> ShiftPlusOne: it is more like i might be within range of the wifi and able to access via internal ip or i'm more likely to not be within range and need to go over cellur
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[13:24] <kevireilly> but yeah you are right, a server in between to broker the connection is probably the most universal
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[13:26] <ShiftPlusOne> If the client is not behind a firewall, but the IP is unknown, then you can use some dynamic IP service to set up reverse ssh
[13:28] <AbbyTheRat> such as no-ip.org ?
[13:28] <ShiftPlusOne> or duckdns.org
[13:28] <kevireilly> reversessh doesn't require port forwarding?
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[13:29] <ShiftPlusOne> it IS port forwarding
[13:29] <ShiftPlusOne> straight from one computer to the other, over ssh.
[13:30] <ShiftPlusOne> so you can forward the ssh port straight to the computer you want to connect from to port 2000, for example
[13:30] <ShiftPlusOne> then on that computer you ssh to localhost port 2000 and that goes to the remote port 22
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[13:31] <ShiftPlusOne> works for VNC and all sorts of things
[13:31] <AbbyTheRat> http://www.howtoforge.com/reverse-ssh-tunneling <- basically talking about that?
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[13:31] <ShiftPlusOne> but the disadvantage is that is requires prior setup. Without that you need some script to check the state and if the IP has changed and fix it if there's a problem
[13:31] <ShiftPlusOne> yeah
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[13:35] <kevireilly> aha, interesting. Thank you berry much
[13:37] <ShiftPlusOne> dammit... no berry pun to reply with
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[13:38] <ShiftPlusOne> Stay around for a few hours, I'll come up with something.
[13:39] <kevireilly> haha i may still be conscious
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[13:40] <ShiftPlusOne> I've got nothing, this is unberriable.
[13:41] <ShiftPlusOne> k, my job is done here. 'night.
[13:41] <kevireilly> nighties ShiftPlusOne
[13:41] <kevireilly> thanks for the help, much appreciated
[13:41] <ShiftPlusOne> np
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[14:05] <ShorTie> x29a, you might want to checkout RPi_Cam_Browser_Control_Installer.sh, it's preaty cool
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[14:34] <serb> Arch Arm has aur repository.. How do i look for packages in the aur though ?
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[14:34] <serb> i mean-- Aur comes up whenever i do -Syu so that must mean aur support is ready out of the box -- That's cool
[14:35] <tengri> serb: is yaourt or sth like that installed? also you would be better off asking #archlinux or #archlinux-arm
[14:36] <serb> Naw
[14:36] <ShorTie> you need to install yaourt, but it's in pacman
[14:37] <serb> oh.. did not know yaourt is in the official repos.. Since when ?
[14:37] <serb> I recall it being marked as outdated a few months ago
[14:38] <ShorTie> don't know, just found out about it yesterday to tell the truth
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[14:39] <ShorTie> although the package i did want was outdated, if that means any thing
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[15:10] <luxor> hi here
[15:10] <luxor> i have trouble transfering big file over nfs on my pi, work perfectly via rsync and ssh, some have this issue ?
[15:10] <luxor> or any idea ?
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[15:29] <x29a> luxor: what are the problems? and how is the load while transfering?
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[15:30] <luxor> x29a: when i transfert big files, more than 2G via nfs (i use kde on client) after a while, speed decrease and transfert stop, when i try to transfert vie rsync and nfs, same issue, when i use rsync and ssh no trouble to transfert
[15:30] <luxor> and the load is hight when transfering via nfs
[15:34] <luxor> i already tryed to change rsize and wsize and cpu thread from 8 to 128
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[15:50] <basti> is there a way to check if the mic of my usb webcam is working? i am trying to play with voicecommand.
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[15:53] <basti> in alsamixer i can choose the device and can change the input but how do i know it is working?
[15:55] <ShiftPlusOne> I am guessing there's an arecord command
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[15:58] <hojuruku> luxor, i had about 15 cpu... but the client was a poor geode 600 MHZ (maybe 550) unzipping a squashfs file. I wonder what cpu it would be using a nfs kernel server at full speed
[15:58] <hojuruku> was it nfsd or mmcqd that was chewing up the cpu may i ask?
[16:00] <luxor> my rasp is overclocked at 900 and top return nfsd :)
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[16:06] <basti> hmm... i have a servo hooked up at pin 1(12). when i play a mp3 file with aplay, this servo goes crazy. audio output is set to jack. this is normal?
[16:06] <ShiftPlusOne> I'd go with no
[16:07] <ShiftPlusOne> but since the audio is done by PWM, I guess the switching could be a source of interference, but I don't have it figured out
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[16:07] <basti> so there is nothin i can do at the moment?
[16:07] <NewYorkSummer> Is a case necessary for the pi like it is for the computer?
[16:08] <NewYorkSummer> Desktop computer that is.
[16:08] <basti> i shouldt get to dusty NewYorkSummer.
[16:08] <ShiftPlusOne> NewYorkSummer, if you don't intend to place it on conductive surfaces, you don't need a cse.
[16:08] <ShiftPlusOne> basti, I wouldn't say there's nothing you can do, since we don't know what the problem is. Got a scope?
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[16:10] <basti> unfortunately not
[16:11] <ShiftPlusOne> basti, do you have any long wires in your circuit?
[16:11] <basti> what is long?
[16:12] <basti> i guess they are about 20cm
[16:12] <basti> from gpio to servo
[16:13] <ShiftPlusOne> I think that might be a problem. How much current is needed for the servo when it's pulsed?
[16:14] <basti> i would have to measure this.
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[16:15] <ShiftPlusOne> are you able to try a shorter lead... like less then 5cm?
[16:15] <ShiftPlusOne> *than
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[16:15] <LvMises> o/
[16:15] <ShiftPlusOne> hey
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[16:16] <LvMises> Heya Shift.
[16:16] <LvMises> You working on any new cool pi projects?
[16:16] <basti> ShiftPlusOne, i guess the signal wire would be enough to change, wouldnt it?
[16:17] <ShiftPlusOne> LvMises, unfortunately not. Working on a book and that's a massive time sink.
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[16:18] <NewYorkSummer> ShiftPlusOne, I'm looking for some cool things to do on the pi. From what I'm reading you do a lot of pi projects?
[16:18] <ShiftPlusOne> basti, not necessarily, but it's a start.
[16:18] <ShiftPlusOne> NewYorkSummer, no sir
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[16:20] <basti> hmm. i would have to make me a new one. so i guess not today ;)
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[16:24] <basti> but out of curiosity: what has the length of the wires das to do with pwm being put out over jack?
[16:24] <ShiftPlusOne> basti, if my theory is right (and I am not sure that it is), you can look into shielding, reducing cable length, or adding some sort of pull up resistor near the servo end.
[16:25] <ShiftPlusOne> a long wire in an antenna
[16:25] <basti> the other way around ^^^
[16:25] <ShiftPlusOne> a switching circuit is a transmitter
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[16:26] <ShiftPlusOne> basti, what sort of frequencies are needed to control a servo?
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[16:27] <psyko666> ahoy mateys
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[16:27] <ShiftPlusOne> basti, other way around what?
[16:29] <basti> i guess the same as sound when you ask that way
[16:30] <basti> the way i said it first, was wrong. the problem i have is that the servo moves, when sound is played, not that pwm interferes with the jack
[16:30] <ShiftPlusOne> that's how I understood it, yes
[16:31] <ShiftPlusOne> the audio is generated using a pwm signal and a filter
[16:31] <basti> but since my pi crashed, when the servo went crazy i guess it draws to much current
[16:33] <DeliriumTremens> man i should have gone to bed earlier
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[16:33] <pksato> basti: pin1 on GPIO is a 3v3 line, dont use it to power a servo or other no low power logic circuit.
[16:34] <basti> pin1 on wiringpi
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[16:35] <psyko666> any of you guys experienced their RPis keep on mounting and unmounting the ext HDD?
[16:35] <basti> it is powered via the 5v pin, but as i mentioned it crashed the pi. usually the servo moves only in very little steps, so it was not a problem before
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[16:36] <basti> psyko666, did you check the logs what is happening when it is unmounted?
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[16:36] <hojuruku> pksato, in nearly tried to power my hdmi->vga converter from the rasberry pi. it didn't work the first go thank god
[16:37] <hojuruku> if it did work i would have fried a diode on my pi. there is lots of hardware from china that breaks hdmi specs, and i had one of them
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[16:37] <pksato> also, dont use 5v from pin2/4 to power servos or others no logic circuit.
[16:38] <hojuruku> just make a microusb female -> male y connector and use that as your power source. nothing wrong with tapping the power before it gets to the pi. but after you'll have issues.
[16:38] <basti> pksato, i noticed
[16:39] <hojuruku> has anyone finished making a rasberry pi that can talk to a motorbike ECU/EMU? the other thing to keep in mind the pi is always on and it draws more power once you shutdown -h it than if it was on.
[16:40] <hojuruku> so add an external on off switch to that cable if you are going to the trouble of making one ;)
[16:40] <psyko666> @basti yeah i forgat that one, i'll check it later
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[16:43] <psyko666> yeah...i forgat where can you find the logs in OpenELEC: XBMC? because when i switch on OpenElec OS thats the only time it'll spit out and mount the ext hdds
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[16:43] <psyko666> it seems okay on wheezy
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[16:44] <pksato> basti: pin12, gpio18 also is a pwm0 and other alt. functions. but normaly pwm0 is routed only to aldio jack.
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[16:46] <ShiftPlusOne> Wait, the audio jack's PWM signal is exposed on the GPIO header? O_o
[16:46] <pksato> connect a speaker via 10uF capacitor + 220R resistor on pin12 to gnd and play audio, if ear some sound, pwm0 is routed to this pin.
[16:48] <basti> pksato, can i disable this?
[16:48] <pksato> ShiftPlusOne: no, one of pwm channel used to generate audio, can routed to gpio18.
[16:48] <pksato> basti: questio is, who enabled pwm route?
[16:48] <ShiftPlusOne> pksato, but that's something you would have to do yourself no? I don't see how he could end up in such a configuration without being aware of it =S
[16:50] <basti> pksato, i did not. at least not intentionally
[16:50] <ShiftPlusOne> If I am reading things right, PWM0 (used for audio) comes from GPIO40, but GPIO18 could also be used.
[16:50] <pksato> Its is my thought about interference on gpio18 when play sound.
[16:52] <pksato> other, is pcm_clk. used on i2s, or spi.
[16:52] <ShiftPlusOne> basti, is your code available?
[16:53] <ShiftPlusOne> more and more I am thinking pksato is onto something
[16:53] <ShiftPlusOne> gordonDrogon, are you around?
[16:53] <basti> sure, but that wont help. nothing is running when i play the sound. i can reboot, play the sound and the servo goes nuts
[16:54] <pksato> basti: thats modules are loaded, lsmod command.
[16:54] <ShiftPlusOne> are you using softpwm or pin12 and HW PWM?
[16:54] <basti> http://nopaste.info/ad1ce22ee6.html
[16:55] <basti> hw pwm on gpio18
[16:55] <pksato> snd_soc_bcm2708_i2s
[16:55] <ShiftPlusOne> so... I think that's solved then
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[16:55] <basti> so just unload that module?
[16:56] <pksato> ah... to ise hw pwm you can not use audio jack.
[16:56] <pksato> to use.
[16:56] <ShiftPlusOne> Hurray... I've learned something new.
[16:56] <basti> that kind of sucks
[16:57] <pksato> or. test, unload snd_soc_bcm2708_i2s. modprobe -r snd_soc_bcm2708_i2s
[16:57] <ShiftPlusOne> had no idea that HW PWM came from the same channel as the audio jacks's PWM signal
[16:57] <pksato> SoC internals...
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[17:00] <basti> pksato, seems to work. thanks!
[17:01] <pksato> unloading module?
[17:01] <basti> this and playing sound without the servo going nuts
[17:02] <ShiftPlusOne> ... "interference"
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[17:04] <pksato> put snd_soc_bcm2708_i2s on /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf
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[17:07] <basti> pksato, i know, but thx anyway
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[17:19] <basti> another one: my usb cam is hooked up via a powered usb hub (2A). when connected it says: rejected 1 configuration due to insufficient available bus power. so i write a "1" in the bConfigurationValue file from that device. this i have to do every time, so i tried to setup a udev rule: SYSFS{idVendor}=="046d", SYSFS{idProduct}=="0825", SUBSYSTEMS=="usb", ATTR{bConfigurationValue}="1"
[17:20] <basti> this is the info from the device: http://nopaste.info/87ed015076.html
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[17:29] <basti> the syntax was wrong.... ATTRS{idVendor}=="046d", ATTRS{idProduct}=="0825", SUBSYSTEMS=="usb", ATTR{bConfigurationValue}="1"
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[18:00] <Davespice> guys
[18:00] <Davespice> I need some help testing something
[18:00] <Davespice> been experimenting with getting the Raspberry Pi camera board to stream to uStream
[18:01] <Davespice> can anyone see anything if you go to: http://ustre.am/1a4Ag
[18:01] <Davespice> there is about a 20 second delay on it
[18:01] <basti> yep
[18:02] <Davespice> can you see my hand? :)
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[18:02] <basti> yep
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[18:02] <ShiftPlusOne> works fine here too
[18:02] <Davespice> cool
[18:02] <ShiftPlusOne> and a strange hand wave to you too sir
[18:03] <Davespice> okay I am going to do a test, I'm going to hold my phone with a stop watch in the shot
[18:03] <Davespice> and I want you to say NOW in channel when you first see it
[18:03] <Davespice> okay here we go...
[18:03] <ShiftPlusOne> my net is very slow right now, so it won't be me >_<
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[18:04] <ShiftPlusOne> now
[18:04] <ShiftPlusOne> 17
[18:04] <Davespice> 41 seconds
[18:04] <basti> 41
[18:04] <ShiftPlusOne> 30
[18:05] <basti> need a shave
[18:05] <ShiftPlusOne> (I'm buffering every few seconds due to capped internet speed, so that's not much help)
[18:06] <Davespice> hehe, I actually normally live with a short beard
[18:06] <ShorTie> cool, straightened out the camera, neck was getting sore
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[18:08] <Davespice> I need to hflip it hang on
[18:09] <ShiftPlusOne> Did you need to do anything fancy to get it working?
[18:09] <Davespice> is the clock readable now?
[18:09] <ShiftPlusOne> yeah
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[18:11] <ShiftPlusOne> taking things to the bedroom, are we?
[18:11] <gbaman> if I am adding a repository, do I need its public key or can i just put the address in sources file?
[18:11] <Davespice> oh no! my laundry just went live on net...
[18:11] <Davespice> whoops
[18:12] <ShiftPlusOne> heh
[18:12] <ShiftPlusOne> though it is kind of late (or early), 'night
[18:14] <basti> another "funny thing". when i plug in my headphone in the jack plug, my usb hub starts humming. what is that?
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[18:14] <basti> the hub is powering the pi and a webcam
[18:14] <Davespice> delay is down to about 12 seconds now
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[18:24] <Davespice> just going to let the camera run for a while to see if it has a problem after a certain time etc
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[18:32] <bel3atar> would this work http://www.ebay.com/itm/USB-To-RS232-TTL-UART-PL2303HX-Auto-Converter-USB-to-COM-Cable-Adapter-Module-/310676792112?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4855c7a330 ?
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[18:36] <basti> what do you want to do?
[18:36] <bel3atar> basti: connect the pi to usb
[18:36] <bel3atar> and have a console
[18:37] <bel3atar> just like this http://www.adafruit.com/products/954
[18:38] <basti> any reason why you dont want to use ssh?
[18:40] <bel3atar> basti: When there's no access point to connect us, serial console would be useful
[18:41] <basti> since it is a standard max232 chip i dont see why it should not work
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[18:42] <basti> but i still dont see the point. if you have a pc from which you connect via rs232 you can use ssh too, cant you?
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[18:43] <bel3atar> basti: I can, but that needs extra configuration
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[19:16] <Princey> anyone experienced in trying to get a 4G dongle to work on the Pi?
[19:16] <Princey> I'm really struggling : (
[19:17] <taza> Got a powered usb hub?
[19:17] <tkonto> Hi. Can I create the db on my server that has all the shared media? I know how to share this database to my RPis but how do I create it on the server (because it is the fast machine that can update media db on the fly)
[19:17] <taza> I mean, I have a 4G dongle working on the Pi, but it's a bit special.
[19:17] <tkonto> Princey: what OS and what dongle?
[19:17] <taza> (It's actually connecting to the 4G modem via wifi=
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[19:18] <Princey> So
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[19:19] <Tenkawa> HI all.
[19:19] <Princey> Its a Alcatel L800Z dongle, and i'm just burning Arch Linux to a SD now
[19:19] <Tenkawa> Any of you running freebsd on your rpis?
[19:19] <Princey> I have a powered USB hub too
[19:19] <Tenkawa> Anyone run into it hanging trying to mount root from ufs:......
[19:19] <Princey> I have a Wi-Fi Pineapple which detects the dongle and uses it as a dongle automatically
[19:20] <Princey> And that's based off of OpenWRT
[19:20] <Princey> I can see from the package manager that usbmodeswitch and usbmodeswitch-data are installed
[19:20] <taza> Sorry, I do not have experience with Alcatel dongles.
[19:20] <Princey> and there are a tonne of preset rules
[19:20] <Princey> It's a fairly new one, 4G
[19:21] <tkonto> Princey: Quick google result http://linuxtricksandtips.blogspot.gr/2010/12/how-to-use-alcatel-one-touch-x220l-3g.html
[19:21] <taza> I've just got experience with Huawei/Nokia 4G dongles.
[19:21] <Princey> yeah, tried that.. its a different dongle and it isn't quite working
[19:21] <Princey> what is interesting though
[19:21] <Princey> and you may be able to help taza tkonto
[19:22] <Princey> when i use the powered usb hub
[19:22] <Princey> lsusb does not display the dongle
[19:22] <Princey> i'm not sure if this is normal?
[19:22] <taza> It's not normal
[19:22] <tkonto> hmm
[19:22] <tkonto> no it does not sound normal
[19:22] <Princey> right
[19:22] <Princey> so i should still see the USB dongle then
[19:22] <Princey> damn it
[19:22] <Princey> its a no frills powered hub
[19:22] <tkonto> check the dongle... :)
[19:22] <Princey> not sure what it could be
[19:23] <taza> Yeah, it shouldn't be different for the hub or direct connection
[19:23] <taza> Just, it's likely to Not Work without a powered hub 'cause it's so power hungry
[19:23] <Princey> yeah
[19:23] <Princey> i noticed when i plug it in direct, the pi reboots itself
[19:23] <Princey> : )
[19:23] <Princey> Maybe i cable it wrong or something
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[19:29] <tkonto> Princey: Power is the most probable problem. Check with a voltmeter the voltage between T1 and T2 holes on board
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[19:48] <maour> Would overclocking damage an RPI which would be On around 16 hours a day ?
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[19:54] <maour> well, it seems Overclocking at least can cause sdcard errors
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[19:57] <ppq> my pi is running 24/7 for some weeks now, overclocked to 1 GHz and constantly at 50% cpu. no problems so far
[19:58] <ppq> i don't write anything to sd, though
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[20:08] <elios> hello. anyone expirence with raspian netinstall ?
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[20:40] <Davor> is there a site with fun/useful Pi/uC/electronics projects?
[20:41] <Davor> I need something to mess with
[20:41] <ppq> youtube ;)
[20:41] <Davor> ha. got a specific channel for me?
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[20:43] <SpeedEvil> ##electronics
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[21:14] <rikkib> gordonDrogon, You about?
[21:15] <rikkib> ug
[21:15] <harrisr> i got banned from the google + page
[21:15] <harrisr> how do i get unbanned
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[21:19] <[Saint]> harrisr: "not doing whatever you did to get banned" is probably a great start.
[21:19] <[Saint]> Contacting whoever runs the page, probably even better.
[21:19] <harrisr> i sent him a google hangout
[21:20] <[Saint]> Which they likely ignored, as they're perfectly free to do.
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[21:22] <[Saint]> In all honestly, if you got banned from +raspberrypi, you /probably/ deserved it.
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[22:16] <sirderpalot> my RPi just died
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[22:16] <elios> rip
[22:16] <AbbyTheRat_> RIP
[22:16] <sirderpalot> last night, it took forever to shut down (and was buggy in the process too)
[22:17] <sirderpalot> so i pulled the plug
[22:17] <sirderpalot> now it's just solid red and dim green leds.
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[22:17] <sirderpalot> tried recreating the card 3 times
[22:17] <Encrypt> <sirderpalot> my RPi just died // Your SD Card just died*
[22:17] <elios> how do you power it ?
[22:17] <sirderpalot> switching step-down regulator w/ 12v input
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[22:17] <sirderpalot> i also tried 2 other usb power supplies
[22:17] <Encrypt> sirderpalot, Did you try with another SD Card?
[22:18] <sirderpalot> not yet :P
[22:18] <Encrypt> Well, the SD Card is the problem
[22:18] <sirderpalot> but the car didn't "feel" dead
[22:18] <Encrypt> That's not a power issue
[22:18] <sirderpalot> :|
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[22:19] <elios> i powered it via serial the first time and it was too unstable.
[22:19] <sirderpalot> serial? o.o
[22:19] <elios> usb/uart
[22:19] <AbbyTheRat_> how would a car feel dead? well, I guess if the engine is missing it would feel too light.. even if you mean card, how could you tell it feels dead/not dead? Have you tested it with another card reader?
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[22:19] <sirderpalot> oh
[22:20] <sirderpalot> AbbyTheRat_: yes, two other card readers
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[22:20] <sirderpalot> i even blanked out the whole card via fstrim
[22:20] <sirderpalot> it's one of my slowest cards though, writing at 10MB/s
[22:21] <Encrypt> I think your SD Card is dead
[22:21] <sirderpalot> the fstrim went ~200MB/s when it usually goes 1-2GB/s for other cards
[22:21] <Encrypt> You should try with another one :)
[22:21] <sirderpalot> my others are too big :|
[22:21] <sirderpalot> 32GB.
[22:21] <elios> it seems the rpi here doesnt like the apt/sources.list any idea ?
[22:21] <AbbyTheRat> sirderpalot - I think everyone is saying your card is dead
[22:22] <sirderpalot> or just Encrypt :P
[22:22] <sirderpalot> and perhaps you
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[22:22] <Encrypt> =D
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[22:22] <Jusii> it's dead!
[22:22] <sirderpalot> ... jim
[22:22] <elios> lo
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[22:23] * sirderpalot drops dead
[22:23] <Chuck_Norris> sirderpalot, I am Chuck Norris, and I know that your SD Card is dead.
[22:24] * Chuck_Norris is now known as Encrypt
[22:24] <Encrypt> :D
[22:24] <sirderpalot> you killed it! D:<
[22:24] <elios> how do you keep your rpi's in sync btw ?
[22:24] <AbbyTheRat> that was Chuck Norris from the future
[22:24] <sirderpalot> i2c. darrrr~
[22:24] <sirderpalot> also, gps for time
[22:24] <sirderpalot> and 3 wifi adapters for redundancy
[22:25] <elios> how about ntpdate ?
[22:25] <sirderpalot> psh, who needs teh internets
[22:25] <elios> hahaha
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[22:26] <elios> i need to update and install stuff ...
[22:26] <sirderpalot> mine was still on init when it died.
[22:26] <elios> getting rid of xserver and install some usefull stuff
[22:26] <sirderpalot> mine never had a monitor keyboard nor mouse plugged in
[22:27] <AbbyTheRat> it really sounds like a hdd problem if I was thinking of large size computer
[22:27] <AbbyTheRat> get and try a new SD card
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[22:27] <sirderpalot> >.>
[22:27] <sirderpalot> does RPi work with 32GB?
[22:27] <elios> cant you forcecheck the card ?
[22:27] <sirderpalot> that's the first thing i did when i pulled it out
[22:27] <sirderpalot> no errors at all.
[22:27] <elios> or badblocks
[22:28] <sirderpalot> oh. no clue about that one
[22:28] <elios> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Badblocks
[22:28] <Encrypt> <sirderpalot> mine never had a monitor keyboard nor mouse plugged in // Same here
[22:29] <AbbyTheRat> 2. What size SD card can it support?
[22:29] <AbbyTheRat> We have tried cards up to 32GB, and most cards seem to work OK.
[22:29] <elios> but sd is a whole different story i guess
[22:29] <AbbyTheRat> from the FAQ on raspberrypi, so..
[22:29] <AbbyTheRat> sounds like they are sugguesting, try it and see
[22:30] <elios> but be carefull with badblocks
[22:31] <AbbyTheRat> elios - yeah but he/she could try it to see if he/she can at least get the rpi working again
[22:31] <Encrypt> http://elinux.org/RPi_SD_cards
[22:31] <sirderpalot> i even unplugged all my hacks to test it x.x
[22:31] <sirderpalot> i'll never be able to get it back together again. derp.
[22:31] <sirderpalot> perhaps i should just buy an odroid U3
[22:32] <elios> if it has bios/biosbattery Yes
[22:32] <sirderpalot> U3 has clock battery :D
[22:33] <sirderpalot> but interfacing would be more difficult without spending more money for the gpio board
[22:34] <sirderpalot> OR perhaps i should just stick my current computer into my motorcycle...
[22:34] <AbbyTheRat> VIBRATIONS AHOY!
[22:35] <sirderpalot> indeed.
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[22:35] <sirderpalot> it be a parallel twin engine. burrrrr~
[22:35] <sirderpalot> 13krpm redline
[22:36] <AbbyTheRat> not very healty for a computer
[22:36] <sirderpalot> nor an sd card slot
[22:36] <AbbyTheRat> yes
[22:39] <AbbyTheRat> yeah.. try putting another SD card in.. or two, see if the rpi boot up if nothing, then maybe you could still reuse your sd to create a new clone of new sd
[22:39] <sirderpalot> ok, i see something wrong now
[22:39] <AbbyTheRat> and well, have a new one up
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[22:39] <sirderpalot> http://ss.edited.us/140209133914.png 3 cards... the one in the middle is RPi card
[22:39] <sirderpalot> mmc1: new high speed SDHC card at address b368 o.o
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[22:42] <AbbyTheRat> mhm.. try installing an OS and see if that brings the pi up
[22:42] <sirderpalot> trying 16GB card
[22:42] <sirderpalot> 16MB/s write. ick
[22:43] <sirderpalot> ... and it dropped down to 13-14MB/s
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[22:43] <sirderpalot> and down to 11.2MB/s solid now
[22:43] <sirderpalot> oh nvm. that's due to my slow source o.o
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[22:44] * sirderpalot derps a lot.
[22:45] <Xark> sirderpalot: What is a nominal SD card write speed for you (out of curiosity)? ~20MB/sec?
[22:45] <sirderpalot> yep. around 21MB/s
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[22:46] <sirderpalot> never measured on a pi though
[22:46] <Xark> sirderpalot: Cool, thanks. I think my RPi is close to that (depending on SD card etc.).
[22:46] <sirderpalot> 16GB card -- no boot
[22:46] <sirderpalot> does that mean it's dead too? D:
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[22:47] <sirderpalot> also, i just murdered a bunch of perfectly good backup data on that card >.>
[22:48] <AbbyTheRat> o_O? Shouldn't touch backup data
[22:48] <AbbyTheRat> unless making a clone of it for restoring
[22:48] <sirderpalot> nope~
[22:48] <sirderpalot> i don't even remember what was on it
[22:48] <AbbyTheRat> *Blink* okie
[22:49] <AbbyTheRat> possible or that RPi doesn't like that make and model
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[22:49] <sirderpalot> nonsense! errbody likes samsung~
[22:51] <AbbyTheRat> other then that, Encrypt has to lay your RPi to rest~
[22:51] <sirderpalot> potential problem spotted. heatsink paste on board
[22:51] <sirderpalot> arctic silver
[22:51] <sirderpalot> i had a full-board heatsink on
[22:52] <sirderpalot> fsck. it works now. or so i think
[22:52] <sirderpalot> D:<<<<
[22:52] <sirderpalot> WTFBBQ
[22:52] <AbbyTheRat> o_o
[22:52] <AbbyTheRat> ohh...kkk...
[22:52] <sirderpalot> it was just a sliver of arctic silver that fell off the memory/cpu
[22:52] <ShorTie> heatsink on a rPi ??
[22:53] <sirderpalot> touching a capacitor
[22:53] <sirderpalot> ShorTie: yes.
[22:53] <sirderpalot> i custom cut one and placed it over the board, on both chips
[22:53] <ShorTie> but y ??
[22:53] <sirderpalot> because motorcycle.
[22:53] <sirderpalot> it gets quite hot in the summer.
[22:54] <AbbyTheRat> so, the heatsink vents away from motorcycle?
[22:54] <AbbyTheRat> the only reason I can think of something other then a normal vent
[22:54] <sirderpalot> i have a fan on my case
[22:54] <Encrypt> So, fortunately no heatsink paste fell on my CPU... :D
[22:54] <Encrypt> If I have a problem, I'll know why :p
[22:54] <ShorTie> just go faster for more air cooling
[22:54] <sirderpalot> Encrypt: D:<
[22:54] <Encrypt> sirderpalot, I have a PiHolder Case
[22:54] <sirderpalot> not much airflow under the seat
[22:55] <Encrypt> There is thermal paste included...
[22:55] <sirderpalot> Encrypt: i made my own case.
[22:55] <sirderpalot> impact resistant :D
[22:55] <sirderpalot> ... now i have to get this fiddly heatsink clips back on
[22:56] <sirderpalot> one down, 3 more to go
[22:56] <sirderpalot> 2 more~
[22:57] <sirderpalot> well, that was easy o.o
[22:57] <sirderpalot> taking them off was horrible.
[22:57] <sirderpalot> .... anddddd it still works!~
[22:57] <sirderpalot> underped.
[22:58] <sirderpalot> time to recreate my partitions :|
[22:59] <elios> rpi cant connect to the interwebs but lan is ok ...
[22:59] <sirderpalot> blame router.
[22:59] <elios> sure how do you think i can type this right now ?
[22:59] <sirderpalot> how big should i make boot partition?
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[22:59] <sirderpalot> elios: ponies?
[23:00] <elios> sirderpalot: magical ones
[23:00] <sirderpalot> indeed.
[23:00] <sirderpalot> 15654912 divided by 8192 is 1911, right? o.o
[23:00] <elios> i got an ssh connection to it, ifconfig looks fine to but cant ping outside.
[23:03] <sirderpalot> urrrgh mugger mucker! my boot partition was too small!
[23:03] <sirderpalot> elios: did you dhcp?
[23:03] <elios> nah i did static after install
[23:03] <sirderpalot> did you get subnet right?
[23:03] <sirderpalot> did you set up default route?
[23:04] <sirderpalot> did you add ponies¿
[23:04] <dRbiG> hello
[23:04] * sirderpalot ignores dRbiG
[23:04] <elios> sirderpalot: yup
[23:05] <dRbiG> anybody did lcd+pwm_backlight on the pi?
[23:05] <sirderpalot> elios: well you did it wrong
[23:05] <elios> hahaha
[23:05] <sirderpalot> otherwise, blame router
[23:06] <sirderpalot> mkfs.ext4 -b 4096 -O ^has_journal /dev/mmcblk1p2
[23:06] <sirderpalot> lalala...
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[23:08] <sirderpalot> pi does not boot. derp.
[23:09] <elios> sirderpalot: nice, my router doesnt even seem to recognice it.
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[23:09] <sirderpalot> indeed.
[23:09] <sirderpalot> elios: have you tried dhcp?
[23:09] <elios> sirderpalot: i will
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[23:10] <sirderpalot> so apparently, partition types matter.
[23:11] <sirderpalot> stupid pi >.>
[23:12] <sirderpalot> copying over root nao
[23:12] <ShorTie> root is a fat partition
[23:12] <sirderpalot> then i need to figure out how to hack the rootfs to make it automagically connect to wifi
[23:12] <sirderpalot> also, BOOT is fat partition, not root.
[23:12] <sirderpalot> though it might be possible...
[23:13] <ShorTie> oops, ya, me bad
[23:13] <sirderpalot> ^_^
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[23:13] * ShorTie still hafe a sleep
[23:13] <sirderpalot> ZZZzzZzzz
[23:13] <elios> sirderpalot: No DHCPOFFERS received.
[23:13] <elios> No working leases in persistent database - sleeping.
[23:13] <sirderpalot> lol
[23:13] <elios> ^-^
[23:14] <sirderpalot> connected it to the correct router port ?
[23:14] <sirderpalot> perhaps you connected it to the WAN port :P
[23:14] <elios> did just ifup && ifdown
[23:14] <elios> other way round with the ethx
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[23:16] <elios> sirderpalot: my router just pretends that its not there for the rpi
[23:16] <sirderpalot> indeed.
[23:17] <sirderpalot> but then again, it could be just you :P
[23:17] <sirderpalot> what cool options do you have in your cmdline.txt ?
[23:17] <elios> whats that ?
[23:17] <sirderpalot> . . .
[23:17] <sirderpalot> /boot/cmdline.txt
[23:18] <elios> got a config.txt if it helps
[23:19] <sirderpalot> nope
[23:20] <elios> dwc_otg.lpm_enable=0 console=ttyAMA0,115200 kgdboc=ttyAMA0,115200 console=tty1 rr
[23:20] <elios> oot=/dev/mmcblk0p2 rootfstype=ext4 elevator=deadline rootwait
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[23:23] <elios> sirderpalot: ?
[23:23] <sirderpalot> needs moar ipv6.disable=1
[23:23] <sirderpalot> and smsc95xx.turbo_mode=N
[23:23] <sirderpalot> and dwc_otg.lpm_enable=0
[23:23] <sirderpalot> and ponies
[23:23] <sirderpalot> and brb, pi-testing time
[23:23] <elios> why ipv6 disable did not see some ipv6 stuff when i used ifconf
[23:24] * Curly is now known as cybr1d
[23:24] <sirderpalot> because ponies
[23:25] <AbbyTheRat> which ones, sirderpalot?
[23:26] <sirderpalot> the ones that aren't there
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[23:31] <elios> sirderpalot: the ponies failed during this process
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[23:40] <elios> router says: no address available (shows the mac of the rpi)
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[23:40] <sirderpalot> and there it goes.
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[23:55] <dRbiG> sirderpalot: still ignoring me? :D
[23:56] <rikkib> Wooot Temperature 29.0 C Pressure 700.92 hPa
[23:56] <sirderpalot> ZZzzZzzz
[23:57] <sirderpalot> my pi still isn't booting fully
[23:57] <sirderpalot> apparently it either can't load the kernel or it can't find root
[23:57] <ShorTie> Auf Wiedersehn
[23:58] <ShorTie> oops, what that
[23:58] <dRbiG> ShorTie: already? :)
[23:58] <elios> ShorTie: init 0
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