#raspberrypi IRC Log


IRC Log for 2014-02-12

Timestamps are in GMT/BST.

[0:00] <raynerd> What printer you running now?
[0:00] <Exterus> how is the rpi with prolonged running? I thought to use one for a small home server (web mostly) and thought I
[0:01] <Exterus> 'd just leave it running.
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[0:02] <dagerik> Triffid_Hunter: how do adapters work (hdmi to vga in this case) and what does it mean for one to be a passthrough?
[0:02] <Triffid_Hunter> dagerik: hdmi has some pins set aside for analog signals such as VGA. cheap adapters just wire those signals to a vga port. the RPi does not provide these signals, so passthrough adapters won't work
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[0:05] <verkgw> i wanna give ratpoison, wmii, awesome, xmonad a go
[0:05] <harris> is chris leenz here
[0:05] <verkgw> sorry guys, wrong channel
[0:06] <elios> verkgw: fluxbox is nice too
[0:06] <raynerd> :-\
[0:06] <elios> w/e
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[0:10] <dagerik> Triffid_Hunter: ah. i see.
[0:13] <dagerik> Triffid_Hunter: which words or terms must I look for to detect if it is passthrough or not?
[0:13] <dagerik> i find nothing here; http://www.fasttech.com/products/0/10000227/1249401-hdmi-male-to-vga-female-adapter-cable-white
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[0:14] <pksato> dagerik: a active adapter have a large box, passthrough have only connectors. like normal vga or hdmi cable.
[0:15] <dagerik> pksato: is active adapter synonymous with non-passthrough adapter?
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[0:16] <AbbyTheRat> passthrough/non-passthrough are still passive, I believe
[0:16] <AbbyTheRat> active means it physically do things to the data steam
[0:17] <pksato> have hdmi to vga cable adapter.
[0:17] <pksato> and a hdmi to vga converter.
[0:17] <pksato> you need a hdmi to vga converter.
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[0:18] <pksato> linked is a hdmi to vga converter. but, without a external power source.
[0:19] <pksato> this can work. but, not aways.
[0:20] <pksato> I have one. and need to power monitor fisrt to work proper. (ddc data transfer)
[0:20] <dagerik> what is difference between converter and adapter?
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[0:21] <AbbyTheRat> adapter tends to be "I can take this connection and work with that connection on the other end."
[0:21] <pksato> _cable_ adapter only make connector type match.
[0:21] <AbbyTheRat> Converter tends to be "I'll take this connection, change the data to match the protocal of the other connection"
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[0:23] <pksato> its is a cable adapter http://dx.com/p/jjby-hdmi-1-4-male-to-vga-male-display-cable-black-blue-241678#.Uvqw41a7H8s
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[0:24] <dagerik> pksato: that one does not have a box, so it probably just rewires vga pins from hdmi signal?
[0:24] <pksato> and, a active converter http://dx.com/p/1080p-mini-hdmi-hdmi-to-vga-3-5mm-audio-video-converter-w-usb-5v-power-supply-white-271676
[0:25] <pksato> with option to power via usab cable.
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[2:41] <Xtrivity> Hi guys, is there a way to reverse connection to a raspi similar to a logmein solution. I know VNC can connect if you forward ports on your router to an external ip, but I dont have the luxery of forwarding ports. Was hopping for a connectback option of some sort.
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[2:43] <rikkib> Choice... Two more DC-DC convertors arrived via courier.
[2:43] <rikkib> Can make my gps go at 3.3v now.
[2:44] <rikkib> and then directly connect to RPi
[2:44] <rikkib> serial
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[2:44] <ports> hahahahah
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[2:47] <plugwash> Xtrivity, sure there are ways
[2:47] <Xtrivity> plugwash, i've been googling long and hard, haven't found any solutions.
[2:47] <plugwash> openvpn can work pretty well if you have a machine permanently on the open internet to act as your hub server
[2:48] <rikkib> .6x.6 m bubble wrap
[2:48] <Xtrivity> plugwash, I have a dedi that I can setup. But that doesn't give screen access.
[2:50] <plugwash> "screen access"?
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[2:50] <Xtrivity> plugwash, VNC, logmein have access to move the mouse and make changes remotely.
[2:51] <plugwash> Right, once you have a VPN setup you can use VNC or whatever over it
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[2:52] <Xtrivity> ha, yeah, guess i'm retarded.
[2:52] <Xtrivity> So I would need my Pi to connect to the VPN as well then.
[2:53] <Xtrivity> openvpn a pi client?
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[2:54] <plugwash> I'm fairly sure openvpn is in the raspbian repositories
[2:56] <Xtrivity> is that how you would do it? Via VPN? Or is there a more stable solution?
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[2:57] <plugwash> I don't see any reason why a VPN would be less stable thn any other soloution
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[2:58] <Xtrivity> well I guess I would rather cloud host than host on my server
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[2:59] <Xtrivity> I feel that the connection would be laggy over VPN
[3:01] <plugwash> hmm, I don't see any reason why a VPN would be especially laggy provided the "hub server" is on a good connection
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[3:02] <plugwash> and the hub server is in a reasonable geographical location
[3:02] <Xtrivity> 100mbit, but it bounces from canada to america.
[3:02] <Xtrivity> and back to canada
[3:02] <Xtrivity> granted, I'll give it a try for sure.
[3:02] <Xtrivity> Never really thought of VPN'in to connect.
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[3:02] <Xtrivity> using VPN will bypass all portforwarding issues and firewall issues correct? (just to double check) plugwash ?
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[3:04] <plugwash> Well the machines obviously need to be able to connect to the VPN server
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[3:05] <plugwash> but yes it will work fine with the VPN clients behind "outgoing connections only" NATs/firewalls as long as the VPN server can accept incoming connections
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[3:13] <rikkib> OK DC-DC convertor set to 3.33v Now to power it all up again.
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[3:19] <rikkib> http://bencom.co.nz:8081 Live streaming while I try to make the gps go.
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[3:33] <rikkib> No snowballs here Temperature 28.6 C Pressure 1006 hPa AM2302 Temp: 29.4, RH: 72.4%
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[3:49] <rikkib> -37.275127 175.501213 0.201000 24.200000 153.500000 Lat, Long, Speed, Altitude, and course
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[4:03] <mdim> I've just installed Raspbian and am connecting to it via LAN. What is the default username and password?
[4:04] <sney> pi/raspberry iirc
[4:04] <mdim> sney: thx!
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[4:29] <mdim> how do I check the current CPU clock speed?
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[4:36] <[Saint]> mdim: more /proc/cpuinfo
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[4:37] <[Saint]> or "less /proc/cpuinfo"
[4:37] <[Saint]> or just "cat /proc/cpuinfo"
[4:38] <[Saint]> ...or lscpu
[4:38] <mdim> [Saint]: sudo cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/cpuinfo_cur_freq
[4:39] <mdim> /proc/cpuinfo doesn't tell the clock
[4:39] <mdim> at least not on Raspbian
[4:39] <[Saint]> it certainly _should_.
[4:39] <[Saint]> It maynot be immediately obvious, though.
[4:39] <[Saint]> There should be a "cpu MHz" value.
[4:40] <mdim> [Saint]: there's not
[4:40] <mdim> also, clocking through raspi-config doesn't seem to work on my model
[4:40] <[Saint]> I'll take your word for it, but that surprises me.
[4:41] <[Saint]> All raspiconfig is doing is setting the values directly to /boot/config.txt
[4:41] <[Saint]> This will work on any model.
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[4:41] <[Saint]> On any distro.
[4:42] <mdim> [Saint]: here's the whole output of `cat /proc/cpuinfo`: http://paste.debian.net/81595/
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[4:45] <[Saint]> here's one from a "real system" for comparison:
[4:45] <[Saint]> http://pastebin.com/B7qMCiW2
[4:45] <[Saint]> (possibly made somewhat confusing by multiple CPUs with multiple cores, but you'll get the gist of it)
[4:47] <[Saint]> I don't have a raspi handy, but I really expected cpuinfo to give this info
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[5:14] <[Saint]> rikkib: out of interest, rounding up, how much has it cost (including the pi) to get this information?
[5:15] <[Saint]> (in NZD, I'm a fellow funny-money user)
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[5:19] <rahul_> Hii i want to access internet from my laptop over my Rpi i have connected my Pi via ethernet cable.?
[5:20] <[Saint]> http://www.raspberrypi.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=54216
[5:20] <[Saint]> rahul_: ^
[5:21] <rikkib> No idea how much it all costs without going through invoices
[5:21] <rikkib> 6 rpi 2 $56
[5:21] <rikkib> 7 for supplies
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[5:22] <rikkib> sensors and rf about $10 each
[5:22] <rikkib> 7 odd sensors and rf untis
[5:23] <[Saint]> Eeeek.
[5:23] <rikkib> couple of relays $15
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[5:23] <rikkib> stm32v $40 odd bucks
[5:23] <[Saint]> And that's why I love my Snowball.
[5:23] <rikkib> I have three of them
[5:23] <[Saint]> I was just curious as to how much of a right decision I made, in a dollar value.
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[5:23] <rikkib> mc9s08 board $120
[5:24] <[Saint]> Turns out its "a lot"
[5:24] <rikkib> Jtag for stm32v $140
[5:24] <rikkib> same for the jtag for my dsp board
[5:25] <rikkib> three DC-DC convertors at $7
[5:25] <rikkib> Prolly close to $500 worth of toys
[5:25] <[Saint]> I don't suspect they're running out very soon, but if you want to do 90% of that on a single board, for $60 NZD...Snowball.
[5:26] <rikkib> Not suitable for what want to do
[5:26] <[Saint]> Though the education offered by this DIY approach is invaluable.
[5:26] <rikkib> I just sold two more camera set ups
[5:27] <rikkib> trade support for goodies
[5:27] <[Saint]> Its hilarious how much money is to be made on the premise that people are unwilling or unable to do things themselves.
[5:27] <[Saint]> Well done.
[5:27] <[Saint]> I approve.
[5:28] <rikkib> gonna catch some more thieves
[5:28] <rikkib> computer recycling nz ltd has an intruder problem
[5:29] <rikkib> got one
[5:30] <[Saint]> Well, I wouldn't go that far until such time as you get identifying information.
[5:30] <rikkib> Now that he has been hit again twice in the last two weeks he will be more open to spending a bit more money
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[5:30] <rikkib> and I have a great test environment
[5:31] <rikkib> Gonna get some electronic fencing
[5:31] <[Saint]> When you say "got one", did that lead to an arrest, or was it simply viewing the offense, past tense?
[5:32] <rikkib> and prosecution
[5:32] <rikkib> trespass order
[5:33] <rikkib> caught in the act
[5:33] <rikkib> A female
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[5:34] <rikkib> Think these latest ones are night time whichj can be a problem
[5:35] <[Saint]> Hahahahaha...someone just strolled up in the daytime and started lifting stuff?
[5:35] <[Saint]> Jeeez, there's the middle North Island for ya. ;)
[5:35] <rikkib> pinching high value scrap metal
[5:36] <rikkib> petty criminals really
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[5:36] <[Saint]> We have huge problems down here with people cutting cables for copper.
[5:37] <[Saint]> 9 times out of 10, its coaxial or fiber they cut.
[5:37] <[Saint]> Absolutely worthless to them.
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[5:37] <plugwash> hmm, coaxial cable uses copper cores doesn't it?
[5:37] <[Saint]> A *very* thin core, yes.
[5:37] <rikkib> some
[5:37] <[Saint]> Stripping that out wouldn;t be worth your time.
[5:38] <plugwash> some types of coax also use copper shielding iirc
[5:38] <[Saint]> Perhaps you could burn it off.
[5:38] <plugwash> though i've no idea what the cablecos round your way use
[5:38] <[Saint]> But even that is too much effort for what you'd get out of it.
[5:38] <rikkib> The scrap merchants take it as it is
[5:39] <[Saint]> Its usually aluminium foil shielding here, as far as I'm aware.
[5:39] * [Saint] feels a sense of pride in ignoring autocorrect on "aluminum"
[5:40] <[Saint]> rikkib: right, but you'd basically need to be given it for it to be worth your time.
[5:40] <[Saint]> ZGOing out and getting it, and carting it around, would almost work out at a loss once sold for scrap.
[5:40] <[Saint]> *Going
[5:40] <rikkib> thats what happens
[5:41] <rikkib> every day they drop stuff off at the gate for free
[5:41] <[Saint]> Theives often aren't very good at rationalization.
[5:42] <[Saint]> "Woo, I got $10 of scrap metal, and spent $10 in fuel carting it. WIN!" :P
[5:43] <plugwash> What if they stole the fuel too?
[5:43] <[Saint]> A reasonable money spinner, so I hear, is lifting 3-phase cables of industrial construction sites.
[5:43] <[Saint]> The ones with like ~1.5cm braided cores that weigh a tonne.
[5:43] <[Saint]> They'll pay off for you.
[5:43] <[Saint]> Disclaimer: not encouraging crime
[5:44] <plugwash> Yeah, I can imagine industrial construction sites are lucrative, large cables and likely to be copper
[5:44] <rikkib> no
[5:45] <plugwash> At least round here cables used by electricity suppliers are usually aluminium but cables used in private installations are usually copper
[5:45] <rikkib> aluminum now days
[5:45] <rikkib> power cables that is
[5:45] <rikkib> but still worth a few bucks
[5:47] <rikkib> I wonder how much trouble one would get in if one tortured a burglar
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[5:47] <rikkib> just a little
[5:51] <rikkib> Man I get sick of do gooders on the news trying to force new rules on idiots... It is called natural selection... Those to dumb to live etc.
[5:52] <rikkib> life jackets, cycle helmets
[5:53] <rikkib> anti smoking, anti sugar
[5:53] <rikkib> all nimby's need lining up
[5:56] <[Saint]> I kinda agree. Somewhat.
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[6:02] <[Saint]> But someone elses ignorance shouldn't impact the safety of others.
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[6:03] <[Saint]> For example, minors.
[6:04] <[Saint]> If an adult chooses not to wear a life jacket or cycle helmet, good on them. They can make an informed decision.
[6:04] <[Saint]> If they choose not to put one on their child...well, yeah. No.
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[6:06] <hybr1d8> if a person decides not to wear a life jacket and they get into trouble others may have to risk their own lives to save them
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[6:07] <hybr1d8> smoking hurts others via passive smoking and increased stress on healthcare (as does over-usage of sugar)
[6:08] <hybr1d8> If it purely was going to impact 'just' that person then fine - they can do what they want - but generally when things go wrong it is up to the rest of the world to pick up the pieces
[6:08] <mdim> what to do when overclocking doesn't seem to be happening? It used to work under an Arch-derivative, but now that I have Raspbian I don't see it working
[6:09] <[Saint]> re: passive smoking, if I'm outdoors, and smoking, and you don't like it...move. :)
[6:09] <[Saint]> If I'm in my house, don't come in. :)
[6:10] <[Saint]> There's nowhere left here where I can smoke indoors in a public place, so when it comes to outdoors, if you don't like it, use the legs FSM gave you and move.
[6:11] <hybr1d8> and if you get lung cancer (or asthma/other illness) will you promise to never go to any hospital or doctor?
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[6:15] <[Saint]> Errr....wut?
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[6:15] <rikkib> Hard for people to understand the system in NZ
[6:16] <[Saint]> Apparently so.
[6:17] <rikkib> a system being eroded all the time
[6:17] <hybr1d8> when you go to the hospital for ongoing issues the cost to the hospital/healthcare services is generally greater then the amount you have paid in premiums etc
[6:17] * Lupinedk is now known as lupinedk
[6:17] <[Saint]> I should bloody well hope so.
[6:17] <rikkib> we do not pay premiums
[6:17] <hybr1d8> so that extra cost is being covered elsewhere - ie by government/taxes, or other payers
[6:17] <[Saint]> As that ammount is zero.
[6:18] <[Saint]> Broken? Fixed. NZ healthcare in a nutshell.
[6:18] <rikkib> NZ has a free health care system
[6:18] <hybr1d8> yep - and so who is paying?
[6:18] <[Saint]> One could also argue that its a valuable learning experience for the healthcare providers.
[6:18] <hybr1d8> the cost is being shared by all via taxation or similar
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[6:19] <hybr1d8> so your choice to get sick is costing others
[6:19] <[Saint]> Meh. Cry me a river.
[6:19] <rikkib> haha
[6:19] <hybr1d8> so will you not be a burden on the system if you develop a smoking-related illness?
[6:20] <rikkib> NZ is also a welfare state
[6:20] <hybr1d8> If you are so sure your choice does not impact others then you would need to do so
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[6:20] <[Saint]> No, I will not be a burden, as the healthcare provider doesn't see it as such.
[6:20] <[Saint]> Your views of it notwithstanding.
[6:21] <[Saint]> If you're a builder, and you put a nail through your hand because you're distracted - would you expect them to fix that?
[6:21] <[Saint]> Of course.
[6:21] <hybr1d8> it costs someone - and since you are not paying for it all then it is costing someone else - therefore you are a burden on others
[6:21] <hybr1d8> If you're a builder you don't aim to put a nail through your hand each day :P
[6:21] <[Saint]> I *am* paying for it. I pay taxes the same as everyone else does.
[6:22] <rikkib> Tell him about ACC
[6:22] <rikkib> haha
[6:22] <hybr1d8> as I said before - your taxes do not fully cover the costs
[6:23] <[Saint]> Actually for the past few years, they have, and more so.
[6:23] <rikkib> that will really confuse him
[6:23] <[Saint]> The healthcare system here is actually flush presently, not in deficit.
[6:23] <SirLagz> unlike Aus
[6:23] <[Saint]> So, apparently our taxes *do* pay for healthcare just fine.
[6:24] <hybr1d8> ACC covers accidents - if you went out and put a nail through your hand every day for a year eventually someone will question your sanity ;)
[6:24] <rikkib> and the rest
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[6:24] <rikkib> keep it real world please
[6:24] <hybr1d8> there is a difference between an accident and choosing to hurt yourself
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[6:25] <[Saint]> People must be like "Wait, what?!?" re: NZ healthcare. "So, you mean, not only do you not pay for the healthcare costs, but your government will pay 80% of your income during recovery? What magic land of kittens and ice cream is this?!?" :P
[6:26] <SirLagz> haha
[6:26] <SirLagz> a lot of the world has similar health care though
[6:26] <rikkib> self harm is treatable and as we have a free health system it gets treated.
[6:26] <hybr1d8> Yep, a very good system - have used it in the past :)
[6:26] <[Saint]> rikkib: I can relate to that.
[6:26] <[Saint]> I never had a professional bat an eyelid at the fact I had chosen to harm myself.
[6:26] <[Saint]> Its what they're there for.
[6:26] <SirLagz> rikkib: are you in NZ ?
[6:27] <[Saint]> He is indeedy.
[6:27] <SirLagz> cool
[6:27] <[Saint]> We can be the Australasian Cool Club.
[6:27] <rikkib> yes other end of the country from saint
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[6:28] <rikkib> nice end
[6:28] <SirLagz> lol
[6:28] <rikkib> warm
[6:28] <rikkib> his end shacks a lot
[6:28] <rikkib> shakes
[6:28] <[Saint]> It feels almost like we didn't have a Summer this year.
[6:28] * Lupinedk is now known as lupinedk
[6:28] <hybr1d8> done for the day here, time to head home
[6:28] <SirLagz> bye hybr1d8
[6:29] <SirLagz> [Saint]: i wish it was that cool here haha
[6:29] <[Saint]> A few 30C+ days. Then perpetual Autumn.
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[6:29] <SirLagz> [Saint]: that sounds soo good haha
[6:29] <SirLagz> we had 40'C days here =/
[6:29] <[Saint]> Whereabout in Au are you SirLagz?
[6:29] <SirLagz> annoying when you don't have aircon lol
[6:29] <SirLagz> Perth
[6:29] <[Saint]> Melb, I'm guessing.
[6:29] <[Saint]> Ah.
[6:30] <SirLagz> i wouldn't mind living in Melb haha
[6:30] <SirLagz> been there once before, it seemed nice
[6:30] <[Saint]> It is. Expensive, though.
[6:30] <SirLagz> indeed
[6:30] <SirLagz> but then again, Perth, Melb, and Sydney are all very expensive
[6:30] <rikkib> My Rpi says Temperature 25.3 C Pressure 1006 hPa AM2302 Temp: 28.8, RH: 73.2%
[6:31] <[Saint]> 25C?
[6:31] <[Saint]> Indoor ambient?
[6:31] <[Saint]> 18C here. :'(
[6:31] <rikkib> AM2302 lives close rto a DC-Dc convertor
[6:31] <[Saint]> Ah.
[6:31] <SirLagz> the air con controller at work things it's 23'C atm
[6:31] <rikkib> indoors
[6:31] <SirLagz> it feels hotter though
[6:31] <SirLagz> and the AC at work couldn't handle the summer heat a few weeks back
[6:32] <rikkib> 20 deg c outside
[6:32] <SirLagz> 31.4'C outside here atm
[6:33] <[Saint]> ...wanna swap?
[6:33] <SirLagz> sure !
[6:33] <[Saint]> Its 18C here, overcast, and piddling down raining.
[6:34] <SirLagz> i like that weather, as long as I'm inside or driving haha
[6:34] <rikkib> hmmm that will be coming my way
[6:34] <SirLagz> looks like it'll be low 30s all week for me
[6:35] <rikkib> Tanks on TV 3
[6:35] <rikkib> I want one
[6:36] <rikkib> 50 ton Centurion
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[6:36] <SirLagz> haha
[6:36] <SirLagz> yeah i wouldn't mind a centurion...nowhere to park it though
[6:37] <rikkib> Fish and Chips time
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[6:37] <SirLagz> i just had some fish and chips :D
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[6:38] <[Saint]> You mean "feeeeeeeeeeesh and cheeeeeeeeeeeeeeps", right SirLagz? :P
[6:38] <[Saint]> #aussieaccenthilarity
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[6:39] <SirLagz> hahahaha
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[6:48] <SirLagz> [Saint]: apparently Perth is Aus's most expensive city
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[6:49] <SirLagz> to live in
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[10:57] <mapee> hi, i try to use ACS ACR122U nfc reader with javax.smartcardio and got this exception but don't know why: http://pastebin.com/xfF0eZtK and here is the code: http://pastebin.com/A89V2pL4 could you please help what's wrong?
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[10:58] <rahul__> hii all, how to connect wifi with my board i have wifi module with me and using ssh for interfacing Rpi
[10:58] <mapee> libacsccid1, libpcsclite1, pcscd packages + openjdk-7-jdk packages are installed
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[10:59] <ShorTie> SCARD_E_NO_READERS_AVAILABLE might be a hint
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[10:59] <mapee> ok, i googled it but nothing usable
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[11:01] <ShorTie> it helps if you fully comment your code if you want help with it
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[11:02] <gregtom6> ShorTie: the problem is not with the code itself
[11:02] <gregtom6> I work with mapee
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[11:03] <mapee> ShorTie: the code works on windows 7 laptop
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[11:06] <ShorTie> so then i go back to my first comment
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[11:10] <gregtom6> ShorTie: we didn't remove any packages since it worked
[11:10] <gregtom6> but now it isn't
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[11:10] <gregtom6> and the code isn't changed
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[11:11] <ShorTie> did you upgrade any packages ??
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[11:12] <mapee> ShorTie: possibly yes
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[11:13] <ShorTie> well, then posiblily the upgrades broke sumfin
[11:14] <ShorTie> it's been known to happen before
[11:14] <gregtom6> ShorTie: but we don't know which one cause the problem
[11:14] <ShorTie> best i can say is to fully upgrade the system, then reinstall what ever you want
[11:15] <ShorTie> and you expect us too ??
[11:15] <gregtom6> ShorTie: we have done the same before
[11:15] <mapee> ShorTie: we tried this on another sd card
[11:15] <mapee> fresh install doesn't work too
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[11:19] <gregtom6> ShorTie: how can we get information about what kind of version of Raspbian was 1 month ago?
[11:21] <mapee> ShorTie: i solved it, the problem was the linux kernels nfc driver, when i blacklisted it the reader works fine
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[11:22] <ShorTie> sweet
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[11:28] <cairne> is there any way to tell what distro is installed on an sd card from a desktop machine?
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[11:29] <[Saint]> If said desktop can mount EXT4 volumes, sure.
[11:29] <cairne> yea wasn't sure if there was a file i could look at that would tell me which distro the card has installed
[11:31] <[Saint]> /etc/apt/sources.list will tell you
[11:31] <[Saint]> Oh...not if its Arch, though, heh.
[11:31] <[Saint]> Hmmmm.
[11:32] <cairne> i think i found the sd card that was arch, theres a pacman folder lol
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[11:33] * [Saint] stops typing a third person variant of the above realization
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[11:34] * [Saint] supposes there's other flavors that that wouldn't work for either.
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[11:35] <[Saint]> Not all flavors support the /proc pseudo-filesystem shennanigans either.
[11:35] <[Saint]> Otherwise there's /proc/version
[11:35] <cairne> thanks
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[11:35] <[Saint]> ...but I digress, you've figured it out, so, yay.
[11:35] <[Saint]> :)
[11:36] <cairne> well i figured out 1 of 6 sd cards, i really should of labeled them. I mean i could put them into the pi one by one but was just trying to see what can be done without doing that
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[11:36] <[Saint]> Time vs. effort, booting one by one may be easier.
[11:36] <cairne> yea starting to see it that way
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[11:37] <[Saint]> I used to label mine, but then I would forget to remove or change the labels.
[11:37] <Jusii> cat /etc/issue would most likely tell you
[11:37] <cairne> was hoping there was some text file hidden away somewhere that said hey i'm pidora or arch, can't always be easy i suppose
[11:38] <[Saint]> Jusii: that would probably work for the major flavors, but some of the more obscure ones, I'm not sure about.
[11:38] <[Saint]> To be perfectly honest, I don't think there is a "one way" to do this.
[11:39] <Jusii> afaik, you're right on that
[11:39] <ShorTie> there is a text file like that, but you forgot to update it, hehe.
[11:39] <cairne> >.>
[11:39] <[Saint]> By the time you mount and check a few likely places in the FS you may as well have booted to the splash screen and killed power.
[11:40] <cairne> was afraid killing the power might curropt fs
[11:40] <cairne> its late and my spelling is horrible
[11:40] <ShorTie> most likely not, if it is not doing anything
[11:40] <[Saint]> Its its *very* early in the boot process, it _should_ be ok.
[11:41] <[Saint]> I wouldn;t rely on it, though.
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[11:41] <[Saint]> I just live dangerously, yo.
[11:41] <cairne> well if it does as long as i get the splash screen i'll know what to reinstall on it lol
[11:41] <[Saint]> I'm a rebel. :P
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[11:45] <cairne> a few weeks back I was trying to use my pi through a kvm switch, but I kept getting key sticking, i figure this is due to my razer kb pulling more then enough power. Question is though, can i route the keyboard into a powered usb hub then into the kvm or after the kvm to make it work
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[11:49] <Jusii> sure
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[11:50] <shiftplusone> Turning off the backlight (assuming there is one) didn't help?
[11:50] <shiftplusone> (but yes, a powered hub is the right solution)
[11:51] <cairne> hmm, i forgot i could turn it off lol, have had it on for so long I will have to give that a try
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[11:52] <cairne> i'm trying to study for my A+ and Networks+ Certs which unfortunetly means i've had to live on windows for past couple of months, figured my second pi could be a great way to still be able to use linux withouth having to reboot all the time
[11:53] <cairne> I have considered vnc, bust wawsn't sure how the performance was on that
[11:53] <shiftplusone> X11 forwarding is probably a little better.
[11:53] <Bhaal> Is there a separate channel for people using the RPi camera?
[11:54] <shiftplusone> I am using geany remotely using x11 forwarding and I can't tell between a local geany instance and a remote one.
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[11:54] <shiftplusone> Yes with VNC I can always tell, it's terrible.
[11:54] <cairne> I will have to look into it
[11:54] <raynerd> Good morning
[11:54] <shiftplusone> hey
[11:54] <cairne> good morning
[11:55] <raynerd> Does anyone from raspberrypi foundation ever drop on here or not?
[11:55] <cairne> can i do x11 forwarding with putty?
[11:55] <raynerd> just wondering if anyone knew where raspi were currently with the posting out of winning raspberry pi from the hour of code competition
[11:56] <[Saint]> cairne: wired or wireless kb?
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[11:56] <[Saint]> (some wireless keyboards are all sorts of messed up with key repeats)
[11:56] <cairne> [Saint]: wired
[11:56] <raynerd> I know there were lots of enteries but I had an email 2 weeks back saying I`d won 5 raspberry pi but haven`t received anything yet
[11:56] <Bhaal> Ok, with the RPi camera I am trying to get some night time shots, I am using a recent firmware/raspistill which has the shutter speed and iso settings available.. I have set everything to the max and still cannot get much more then a black image at night rather then stars...
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[11:57] <shiftplusone> cairne, you will need xming or VcXsrv
[11:57] <raynerd> Bhaal - no light pollution getting in the way?
[11:57] <[Saint]> Bhaal: for night time stuff you really want to remove the IR filter
[11:57] <raynerd> you using a NoIR
[11:58] <Xark> raynerd: Not really, this is more the official unofficial support IRC channel. :)
[11:58] * [Saint] guesses not
[11:58] <raynerd> Xark - fair ply
[11:58] <raynerd> play
[11:58] <[Saint]> If he was, I doubt this would be an issue.
[11:58] <Bhaal> No, using standard camera...
[11:58] <[Saint]> My Pi Noir is *great* in low light.
[11:58] <[Saint]> The standard camera...yeah, notsomuch.
[11:58] <Bhaal> Hmmm
[11:59] <cairne> shiftplusone: thanks I will take a look into that, i've never tried it. that will probably be my next step if i can't get the kvm to work right
[11:59] <Bhaal> I am using it as essentially a weather/sky cam ... So the shutter speed is helpful during the night for lightning shots... But I was hoping to get stars as well...
[12:00] <shiftplusone> cairne, depends on your needs.
[12:00] <Bhaal> [Saint]: if I was to start playing with the Noir then I would need a switchable IR filter in front of it... I have one, but its not going to fit inside the housing...
[12:01] <cairne> shiftplusone: nothing really fancy, not going to be a work horse or anything, just a simple distract when i get sick of windows. just dont want to have to deal with the hassel of moving usb's and hdmi cables around each time
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[12:02] <shiftplusone> SSH should be enough for most things, really.
[12:02] <shiftplusone> but there are plenty of alternatives for remote access, so it shouldn't be a problem.
[12:02] <cairne> shiftplusone: mainly play around with python, learn some of the different command line utilities for package management and the like that i'm not use to.
[12:03] <shiftplusone> ssh is perfect then.
[12:03] <cairne> probably don't even need a gui
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[12:03] <cairne> but i did want to play around a little bit with xfce and elightnment which was my only real visual concern
[12:04] <shiftplusone> then you'll want vnc
[12:04] <cairne> it should be decent right?
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[12:04] <shiftplusone> personally, I don't like it
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[12:05] <cairne> im just worried it will have as bad of performance as windows remote desktop, which is why im going to try my hardest to get the kvm to work right
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[12:06] <shiftplusone> X11 on the pi itself isn't all that great to use, so I am not sure that vnc is any worse
[12:06] <Bhaal> [Saint]: Have you heard of anyone attaching switchable IR cut filters to the RPi NoIR?
[12:07] <cairne> shiftplusone: i had heard some news of people getting wayland to work, but i havn't followed closely
[12:07] <raynerd> shiftplusone - can I just ask a quick one... promise I`ll not drag you through hell again with this, just want to know if you can immediately see anything wrong with this: http://pastebin.com/K9SaPbiQ
[12:07] <raynerd> shiftplusone - same issue - adding proxy to script
[12:07] <shiftplusone> cairne, it's not ready for prime time yet.
[12:07] <raynerd> https://twython.readthedocs.org/en/latest/usage/advanced_usage.html
[12:08] <raynerd> I`ve done my best, added the clinet_args variable and declaired it further down - still doesn`t work. Still - I`m off work today :-( so i can`t test anything but should be back in tomorrow - just wanted your thoughts.
[12:08] <cairne> shiftplusone: thats what I figured.
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[12:09] <shiftplusone> raynerd, looks ok at a glance, but I haven't gone through all of it yet. I'll let you know if I notice anything.
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[12:10] <raynerd> OK - to be honest, I`ve only added the client_args bit - the rest of it works great from home. THEN again - I did write all that so could be anything wrong with it!!!!
[12:10] <shiftplusone> raynerd, are you timing out again or have you not tested it yet?
[12:10] <cairne> raynerd: whats it do post a picture to twitter?
[12:11] <raynerd> Yes - I tested it yesterday and it timed out.
[12:11] <raynerd> cairne - yes if you have twitter and have a look (buit don`t follow! ) @RaynerdPi -
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[12:12] <raynerd> it is for a school weather station. All works fine from home, logs data to xively and twitter but take it into school and it doesn`t work. Shiftplusone helped for about 2 weeks getting the xively bit to work which is the important part. This is just something I did for fun but it would be nice to have a stream of pics of the school,
[12:12] <shiftplusone> raynerd, are you sure it times out rather than complaining about SSL certs?
[12:12] <cairne> raynerd: neat
[12:13] <raynerd> I`m sorry - you are correct, it did error.
[12:13] <raynerd> I know I`m not much help as being at home I can`t test - but it certainly didn`t work. Just wondering if you could spot any reason!
[12:14] <shiftplusone> if I were to guess it's the same as last time. Keep in mind that when we were using xively, we were sending data through http rather than https, so it's all unencrypted.
[12:14] <cairne> raynerd: really nice landscape where is it, you can just be general
[12:14] * shiftplusone notes cairne as the channel stalker. >.>
[12:14] <cairne> ; ;
[12:15] <raynerd> http://www.ramsbottom.net/
[12:15] <raynerd> the tower is Peel monument or Holcome Hill.
[12:16] <cairne> i love the architecture of the buildings
[12:16] <raynerd> humm... I presume twython tells it what website to upload to
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[12:17] <shiftplusone> raynerd, what you need to do is add the options to client_args that would turn off ssl verification
[12:17] <raynerd> :-S
[12:18] <raynerd> I know everyone in school has issues with SSL certificates and certainly when we bring in android devices - we have to have IT install the certificates. I don`t understand it if I`m being honest
[12:19] <raynerd> seems a recent problem
[12:19] <cairne> could the network admins be blocking it maybe by mistake
[12:19] <shiftplusone> yeah, I don't understand SSL either
[12:19] <cairne> some rule in the firewall?
[12:20] <raynerd> yes - we have just switched ISP from the local authority (government) to virgin and had a commerical style firewall installed.
[12:21] <shiftplusone> raynerd, just a sec
[12:22] <[Saint]> cairne: Yes.
[12:22] <[Saint]> http://www.designspark.com/eng/blog/fun-with-pi-noir-and-filters
[12:22] <raynerd> OK , no rush today - in bed
[12:23] <cairne> [Saint]: thats done with the pi camera?
[12:23] <[Saint]> cairne: It is, yes.
[12:23] <[Saint]> (note the "pi noir" in the title)
[12:23] <cairne> [Saint]: wow i never really looked into it, didnt realize the camera was that good
[12:24] <[Saint]> {which is just the regular pi camera sans IR filter)
[12:24] <cairne> [Saint]: wasn't sure if the site or something was being done with iamges on the pi
[12:24] <cairne> images*
[12:24] <[Saint]> If you take the lens off completely, it makes a *sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet* macro camera.
[12:24] <shiftplusone> raynerd, http://pastebin.com/AYnGaXZ8
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[12:25] <cairne> [Saint]: that image is better then most cheap web cams
[12:26] <raynerd> shiftplusone - I`ll give it a go when I`m back in tomorrow or Friday
[12:26] <cairne> makes me feela shamed, all i turned my first pi into was a media server lol
[12:26] <raynerd> thank you once again
[12:26] <shiftplusone> np
[12:26] <[Saint]> cairne: most cheap web cames aren't 5 megapixels in resolution
[12:27] <[Saint]> *cams
[12:27] <[Saint]> I can't think of any that come close, for the price, actually.
[12:28] <[Saint]> 2592 x 1944, IIRC. Pretty sure that's 5MP or close to it.
[12:28] * [Saint] can't math tonight
[12:28] <[Saint]> Aha, yep. 5MP
[12:28] <[Saint]> ...kinda sad I needed to work that out.
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[12:29] <cairne> [Saint]: might have to look into some projects with it. i was so happy that xmbc had a plugin for JupiterBroadcasting that i kind of just gave up doing anything else
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[12:30] <[Saint]> Its actually kinda hilarious that a raspberrypi+pi camera is cheaper than most equivalent webcams.
[12:30] <[Saint]> However its not really "plug and play" if you wanted to use it for the same purpose.
[12:30] <cairne> seems there is much more you can do with it to, since there are im guessing api's for it
[12:31] <[Saint]> There are indeed.
[12:31] <cairne> is it all python
[12:31] <[Saint]> Great for time lapse.
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[12:31] <cairne> i can finally find out what my cat does when im gone lol
[12:31] <[Saint]> There's a great body of pything bindings for it, but you can also just poke the bare metal trivially.
[12:32] <[Saint]> I use one to turn on the TV in the spare room and play a screensaver of HD fish for the cats.
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[12:32] <raynerd> nice [saint]!
[12:32] <[Saint]> 45 minute loop of HD tropical fish
[12:32] <cairne> that seems kinda mean lol
[12:32] <cairne> do they ever try to attack it?
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[12:33] <[Saint]> They seem to have gotten somewhat used to it now. I need to get it to cycle the loops I think.
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[12:34] <[Saint]> Very early on, they used to think they could "trick" the fish by going behind the TV to get them.
[12:34] <cairne> lol
[12:34] <cairne> you guys have inspired me to hurry up with my certs so i can have time to play with my pi
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[12:36] <[Saint]> I haven't poked at it in a while. I need to do it a better way then comparing frames, as its very failure prone.
[12:36] <[Saint]> Vibrations sometimes set it off.
[12:37] <[Saint]> I should really be using actual image recognition to detect a cat instead, but that's like...hard, and stuff.
[12:37] <cairne> does seem complicated
[12:38] <[Saint]> Even sudden variations in light are enough to set it off sometimes.
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[12:38] <[Saint]> Its very naive logic.
[12:38] <cairne> well i'm off for the night, thanks for the help
[12:39] <[Saint]> I really should use image recognition, or an actual motion sensor.
[12:39] <[Saint]> Anyhoo, goodnight. o/
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[12:45] <Bhaal> Anyone know if they plan on bringing out the NoIR camera with a standard CS/M12 mounting option? Or the cameras they are selling is all they are willing to sell?
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[12:50] <[Saint]> Bhaal: "willing" has nothing at all to do with it.
[12:51] <[Saint]> Its all cost based, to match a specific price point.
[12:51] <Bhaal> [Saint]: By that I mean, production run wise, not something they can feasibly do
[12:51] <gregtom6> why the java program doesn't stop running after pi4j pulse method used?
[12:52] <[Saint]> Bhaal: try as I might I can't parse that in a way that makes sense to me, sorry.
[12:53] <Bhaal> [Saint]: I can find the regular camera module in a CS/M12 mount board and its reasonably priced, but not the version with no ir filter ... BUT its surface mounted, but cable attached like the RPi camera
[12:53] <Bhaal> [Saint]: A NoIR version of this would be great: http://www.uctronics.com/raspberry-pi-camera-board-cs-mount-lens-fully-compatible-with-official-module-p-1731.html
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[12:54] <[Saint]> As far as I am aware, the pi camera and pi noir are identical.
[12:54] <[Saint]> Except the latter has no IR filter.
[12:54] <Bhaal> I know, that link is to a completely different module, not made by RPi
[12:55] <[Saint]> Making it irrelevant.
[12:56] <[Saint]> The foundation offers what they do because of a fixed price point they want to match.
[12:56] <[Saint]> Every single piece of HW was chosen to meet that price point.
[12:56] <[Saint]> (one reason for the less than stellar SoC)
[12:56] <Bhaal> Uh... Hmm.. I guess what I am trying to say is: Why did RPi design the camera board in such a way that it isn't compatible with other products, ie: board size/shape/mounting holes ...
[12:57] <Bhaal> Fairymuff
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[12:57] <Bhaal> Fair enough
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[12:58] <Bhaal> [Saint]: I do understand to some degree .. just frustrating I guess :)
[12:58] <[Saint]> A LOT of compromises were made.
[12:58] <Bhaal> but probably for the foundation as well *shrug*
[12:58] <Bhaal> yah
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[13:01] <Bhaal> is the RPi NoIR camera the only IR-less omnivision 5647 out there?
[13:02] <[Saint]> I believe so, yes.
[13:03] <Bhaal> Hmmm, ok
[13:03] <[Saint]> Well, possibly other manufacturers are picking them up now, unless its exclusively distributed via the foundation and partners.
[13:03] <[Saint]> I seem to recall they had it specially made by request.
[13:03] <Bhaal> yeah, I think that is what I read
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[13:10] <Bhaal> [Saint]: Hmmm, I just checked, and the RPi camera will actually take a M12 mount...
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[13:15] <[Saint]> Problem solved than I guess.
[13:15] <[Saint]> I suppose that also eliminates the fixed focus issue.
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[13:21] <Bhaal> [Saint]: Yeah I will have to pull the lense off the rpi camera so the IR cut filter will actually sit on top without touching the actual camera...
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[13:30] <knob> Good morning everyone =)
[13:30] <Bhaal> [Saint]: Thanks for your help, it is appreciated
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[15:10] <S0-2> I can't update my RPi running Arch: linux-raspberrypi: /boot/kernel.img exists in filesystem
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[15:11] <oskude> S0-2: sounds like no package owns that file?
[15:13] <shiftplusone> S0-2, did you do something silly like rpi-update?
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[15:16] <S0-2> Nope.
[15:16] <S0-2> I have not done anything out of the ordinary with my system.
[15:16] <oskude> S0-2: pacman -Qo /boot/kernel.img
[15:17] <shiftplusone> well, take a look at the pacman manual and.... what he said
[15:17] <S0-2> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/8956313
[15:18] <shiftplusone> there should be a section to force overwriting. Though I am not sure why it's a problem that the file exists. Maybe #archlinux-arm is the place if oskude's suggestion doesn't help.
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[15:19] <oskude> yeah, ask in #archlinux-arm S0-2, my /boot/kernel.img doesnt seem to belong to any package neither... but i use "illegal" way to install arch-arm :P
[15:20] <S0-2> lol okay
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[15:32] <andrewjs18> hi, is anyone familiar with openvpn?
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[16:41] <shiftplusone> ...sorry. http://imgur.com/EsBFyxE >_<
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