#raspberrypi IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2014-02-17

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[0:19] <rikkib> Ok... One PIR hooked up to a RPi
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[0:20] <rikkib> All pins on the gpio used
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[0:22] <rikkib> Have a nRf24 2,4ghz hooked to the spi. DHT22 one pin. two i2c modules hooked to i2c and gps on the serial port.
[0:22] <rikkib> and pri on one pin
[0:22] <rikkib> pir
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[0:24] <rikkib> two processes reading the dht and pressure sensor and another reading the gps.
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[0:24] <[Saint]> In the future, we'll mark this day and weep. The beginnings of a sentient raspberry pi, and man's downfall...
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[0:25] <rikkib> now I need to write some more software
[0:25] <[Saint]> You better not make Skynet, rikkib. Just sayin'.
[0:26] <rikkib> wish
[0:26] <rikkib> rule the world
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[0:27] <rikkib> http://122.61.65.149 Running two cams at the computer recyclers now to get better coverage
[0:27] <rikkib> Just made two PIR sensors to add to each.
[0:29] <rikkib> Put them in small plastic boxes for power distro (Danger 400 Volts) on them.
[0:29] <rikkib> Mount on barge boards below the cams
[0:30] <[Saint]> Add a fat copper cable as a honey trap. ;)
[0:30] <rikkib> One day I am going to catch the gang that targets to company
[0:31] <rikkib> I think I will do a perimeter loop
[0:31] <rikkib> fine enamel wire
[0:31] <[Saint]> Dump a big pile of tempting scrap out in the open. Tempt them in. Like rodents.
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[0:32] <rikkib> They got a few batteries and ups last week
[0:32] <[Saint]> "expensive copper pile, do not steal"
[0:32] <rikkib> Hundreds of dollars danage to the fences
[0:32] <rikkib> They went in one side and out the other
[0:32] <[Saint]> Odd.
[0:33] <rikkib> taking all rubbish bins
[0:33] <rikkib> to carry stuff
[0:33] <[Saint]> Hahahaaha.
[0:33] <[Saint]> Jeebus.
[0:33] <[Saint]> ...sorry.
[0:33] <[Saint]> But that is kinda amusing.
[0:33] <rikkib> Grumpy boss
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[0:34] <rikkib> You can tell cause he is silent
[0:34] <[Saint]> If only it was legal to build a man trap.
[0:34] <[Saint]> dig a moat.
[0:34] <Raynerd> I know the pi doesn't have real time clock, but can a python script check the time and compare it. Basically, I have a code doing something and I want it to do something different between 11:30pm and 3am
[0:35] <Raynerd> If time is between these values, so this, else...
[0:35] <gordonDrogon> yes
[0:35] <[Saint]> assuming its net connected, sure.
[0:35] <gordonDrogon> Linux maintains a time-of-day clock internally.
[0:35] <Raynerd> Ok thanks, I googled it but my answers were all about real time clocks and ntp servers.
[0:35] <gordonDrogon> it only needs that setting once - at boot time from a hardware RTC or network.
[0:36] <Raynerd> [Saint]: Even if not connected, the script will still use the fake clock right? Just the time would be wrong..
[0:36] <[Saint]> if its still up, yes.
[0:36] <Raynerd> Gordo
[0:36] <gordonDrogon> The Pi uses a 'fake' clock - in that it writes the current time to SD card at (proper) shutdown time, and starts it from there until something (network/rtc) sets it correctly.
[0:36] <Raynerd> Ok
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[0:36] <rikkib> If accuracy is not an issue (Over come with ntp). If no ntp then it will need to be set each boot and checked regularly.
[0:36] <[Saint]> if it goes down at any point it'll go wonky.
[0:37] <[Saint]> (if its no longer able to reach ntp)
[0:37] <Raynerd> Sure.., yes, makes sense but it has network connection otherwise the script wouldn't be running actually, so no worries there.
[0:37] <gordonDrogon> you can also manually set Linuxes time using the date command in the abscence of anything else.
[0:37] <gordonDrogon> this is how we used to do it.
[0:37] * [Saint] nods
[0:37] <gordonDrogon> (on Unix on a PDP 11 before RTCs were invented)
[0:38] <Raynerd> I connect to my local ntp server, being behind a firewall, something else that needed setting up
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[0:38] <gordonDrogon> and speaking of time - zed time for me!
[0:38] <Raynerd> Well thanks for that...I will go on a googling mission.
[0:38] <rikkib> crontab -e as root to make a root cron job
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[0:40] <Raynerd> @RaynerdPi. - school pi weather station and camera! :-)
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[0:42] <Raynerd> Right off to bed as well... G night
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[1:53] <yedderson> hello ShadowJK rikkib
[1:53] <rikkib> Hi
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[2:00] <Datalink> I need to set up a GPS based time standard for my apartment
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[2:03] <Jeena> I can't find out how the GPIOs work, is there some official documentation about that? What I want to do is just to have a button and when I press it it should print "Button pressed" I use the PiPiper ruby gem for it and the programming part is not a problem but the wiring :-/
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[2:06] <yedderson> I mean ShorTie :p
[2:07] <pksato> Jeena: http://www.themagpi.com/
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[2:09] <pksato> Jeena: http://elinux.org/RPi_Low-level_peripherals
[2:11] <Jeena> thanks that should get me started
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[2:26] <Jeena> I'm still confused, on my button, should I have 3,3 v on one side and one of the GPIOs on the other, for example pin 22?
[2:26] <Jeena> and without a resistor in between?
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[2:53] <shiftplusone> Jeena, as long as the pin never goes into output mode, that's okay.
[2:53] <shiftplusone> With that setup though, you will need to enable the internal pull down resistor.
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[2:55] <[Saint]> ANyone have any suggestions on batch tagging software that can handle a *lot* of audio files?
[2:55] <[Saint]> (~200,000 tracks)
[2:58] <[Saint]> errrrrr, 20,000, even.
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[2:59] <SirLagz> [Saint]: musicbrainz or picard...something like htat
[2:59] <[Saint]> Or?
[3:00] <[Saint]> I'm using MusicBrainz Picard.
[3:00] <[Saint]> It absolutely cannot deal with a batch import of this size. Sadly.
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[3:02] <SirLagz> [Saint]: really ? I've used it for about that many tracks
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[3:03] <[Saint]> I found that it *looks* like ti succeeds. But if you actually go through and check all the fields manually half of them are corrupt or missing.
[3:04] <SirLagz> [Saint]: damn.
[3:04] <[Saint]> One common thing seems to be the track time and total time being absolute garbage.
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[3:04] <[Saint]> Yet if I nurse them through in smaller batches all is well.
[3:04] <SirLagz> I haven't used Picard in a while though, so maybe back then it worked better when it had less features haha :D
[3:05] <[Saint]> The issue here certainly shouldn't be RAM or CPU. I have that in spades.
[3:05] <[Saint]> Actually, I think that *could* be the issue...
[3:05] * lupinedk is now known as Lupinedk
[3:05] <[Saint]> I think my disks and system are too fast.
[3:06] <SirLagz> [Saint]: didn't know that could cause issues
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[3:06] <[Saint]> I just noticed that pulling 4K tracks off a spinning platter works.
[3:06] <[Saint]> But pulling them off an SSD ends up in a hilarious jumble.
[3:07] <[Saint]> I suspect disk access time on the spinning platter gives it enough time to read the files and get the correct metadata for them.
[3:07] <SirLagz> haha
[3:07] <SirLagz> interesting
[3:08] <[Saint]> As opposed to having to deal with all files practically at once.
[3:08] <SirLagz> that sounds like it could be it
[3:09] <[Saint]> I notice for many of the "bad" albums, the first few tracks in order have valid info. But the rest is garbage or entirely missing.
[3:09] <[Saint]> There's *some* pattern here. Gah.
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[3:09] <[Saint]> Serves me right for hoarding audio, I guess.
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[3:10] <[Saint]> I should really stop. I have about 3 years solid of tracks with a play count of one or less.
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[3:13] <[Saint]> No...that can't be right.
[3:13] <[Saint]> MusicBrainz must be screwing up there too.
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[3:15] <[Saint]> Yeah. Hahaha. Its way off. :)
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[3:16] <[Saint]> Back of the envelope math, and assuming an average of 4 minutes per track, gives me about a month solid of tracks I've never listened to.
[3:17] <[Saint]> And around 78 days for my total tagged collection (with a lot more ripped and sitting waiting to be tagged).
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[7:11] <mojtaba> Hi, I have installed tightvncserver on my laptop, but I can not conect to it from my other computer. Does anybody know what should I check? Or what should I look for? I have followed all the instructions in http://gettingstartedwithraspberrypi.tumblr.com/post/24142374137/setting-up-a-vnc-server
[7:11] <mojtaba> Hi, I have installed tightvncserver on my pi, but I can not conect to it from my other computer. Does anybody know what should I check? Or what should I look for? I have followed all the instructions in http://gettingstartedwithraspberrypi.tumblr.com/post/24142374137/setting-up-a-vnc-server
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[7:24] <mojtaba> Hi, I have installed tightvncserver on my laptop, but I can not conect to it from my other computer. Does anybody know what should I check? Or what should I look for? I have followed all the instructions in http://gettingstartedwithraspberrypi.tumblr.com/post/24142374137/setting-up-a-vnc-server
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[9:47] <local> hey all. How can I boot my Raspbian into a kind "rescue" console? I would like to boot into a safe mode. What is the hotkey therefore when booting?
[9:47] <shiftplusone> google raspberry pi safe mode
[9:47] <shiftplusone> there are two pins you need to short
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[9:51] <local> shorting pins?? isn't there any hotkey which I can use while boot sequence ?
[9:51] <shiftplusone> nope
[9:52] <shiftplusone> You can cheat and just boot the emergency kernel by editing config.txt
[9:54] <local> I have found that (http://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=12007) but I'm really disappointed that I have to short pins onto the hardware. Of course this is not difficult, but I just compare it to a normal computer. If I want to safe boot into Debian, I won't have to short anything inside the motherboard :)
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[11:07] <[Saint]> local: holding a button during boot is the exact same equivalent
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[11:07] <[Saint]> raspi just...doesn't have any physical buttons. What do you expect? ;)
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[11:09] <[Saint]> Unlike a mainstream desktop/laptop, there's no assumption that a keyboard will ever touch the pi.
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[11:18] <[Saint]> What happened there linuxstb?
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[12:11] <lorenzo> hi! I've just got a rPI
[12:11] <lorenzo> is there a way to install something on it without hdmi?
[12:11] <shiftplusone> yeah
[12:11] <lorenzo> only thing able to display information in my house is a VGA LCD
[12:12] <shiftplusone> just don't use NOOBS
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[12:13] <treeherder> has anyone here managed to build openscad
[12:13] <treeherder> in ARM
[12:13] <hemangpatel> Hi
[12:13] <hemangpatel> I want to buy raspberry pi.
[12:13] <treeherder> cool
[12:13] <treeherder> do it
[12:14] <hemangpatel> in india . How do i get ? What actually i can do with it ?
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[12:14] <local> I have installed logcheck onto my RPi's and only one of them are showing weird issues ==> there is a process called "egrep" with >95% CPU time which is run under the user account "logcheck". I cannot understand why this "egrep" process is running endless with such a high CPU percentage?
[12:14] <treeherder> element14? and you can interface wityh any 3.3 v protocol relatively simply
[12:14] <local> I already tried "apt-get purge logcheck" and "apt-get install logcheck" but it didn't help. What can the issue be? any hints?
[12:15] <treeherder> lots of input/output options
[12:16] <kevireilly> local: guessing, but maybe service logcheck stop
[12:16] <treeherder> local, can you paste the relevant entry from top?
[12:17] <local> logcheck 2271 0.0 0.3 3736 1400 ? Ss 12:16 0:00 /bin/sh -c if [ -x /usr/sbin/logcheck ]; then nice -n10 /usr/sbin/logcheck -R; fi
[12:17] <local> logcheck 2280 0.6 0.6 6224 2372 ? SN 12:16 0:00 /bin/bash /usr/sbin/logcheck -R
[12:17] <local> logcheck 2327 0.0 0.3 3696 1380 ? SN 12:16 0:00 lockfile-touch /var/lock/logcheck/logcheck
[12:18] <local> logcheck 2735 55.6 0.4 5316 1768 ? RN 12:16 0:32 egrep --text -v ^[[:space:]]*$|^# /etc/logcheck/ignore.d.server/cron-apt
[12:18] <treeherder> Logcheck is a small daemon that scans your logfiles for problems every 15 minutes, and emails you a summary of whatever problems might have arisen.
[12:18] <local> pi 3186 0.0 0.4 5368 1768 pts/0 S+ 12:17 0:00 grep --color=auto -i logcheck
[12:18] <local> treeherder: I know what logcheck is, therefore I isntalled it ;)
[12:19] <treeherder> grep, egrep, fgrep - print lines matching a pattern
[12:19] <treeherder> so logcheck is doing what you want it to do
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[12:20] <treeherder> which is using pattern matching to check your logfiles
[12:20] <treeherder> it's not a powerful processor, so you know it's resource intensive -- depending on the size of the log
[12:20] <treeherder> one thing you could do is save the log as something else every 15 mins
[12:21] <treeherder> so it
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[12:21] <treeherder> so it's only grepping new info
[12:21] <cousin_luigi> Greetings.
[12:21] <lorenzo> shiftplusone, I have some composite video though
[12:21] <local> treeherder: that cannot be the issue. Listen: I am using 5 RPi's, and they all have quite the same config. This problem RPi used to work fine.
[12:21] <lorenzo> does it work with noobs?
[12:21] <cousin_luigi> Is there a version of the rpi with two ethernet ports?
[12:21] <shiftplusone> lorenzo, yeah, but you need to press some key while booting to make sure it goes into composite mode.
[12:21] <treeherder> local maybe you go pwnt and it's a rootkit owning your box
[12:22] <local> cousin_luigi: I remember to have seen an external NIC which is plugged in through USB port. Then you have an additional network interface which you can use (eth0=the internal one, eth1=the new one)
[12:22] <cousin_luigi> local: I know, but I don't like that arrangement.
[12:22] <local> treeherder: impossible, the RPi is only on my local test environment. Hmm
[12:23] <cousin_luigi> Know of any generic channel for linux gizmos?
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[12:31] <SpeedEvil> #edev ##embedded
[12:31] <cousin_luigi> thanks
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[12:41] <lorenzo> official raspbian image has sshd enabled by default right?
[12:42] <shiftplusone> yes
[12:43] <shiftplusone> https://github.com/hifi/raspbian-ua-netinst is worth looking at though
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[12:51] <Enverex> How easy is it to port libraries from the Arduino to the Pi? For example the TFT and LCD controller modules?
[12:52] <ShorTie> sure wiringPi doesn't already have them ??
[12:52] <shiftplusone> not hard if you use wiringpi
[12:53] <gordonDrogon> There are some basic LCD libraries in wiringPi - for the popular Hitachi controllers.
[12:54] <Enverex> ILI9341 (2.2" LCD) was one off the top of my head
[12:54] <Enverex> I'm also wondering how easy is it to alter something like WiringPi to work with a different device like the Odroid-U2/3
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[12:55] <cousin_luigi> bbl
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[12:56] <shiftplusone> In general, the TFT LCD libraries have a function to send a command and another one to send the data. Then there is a function that runs through the init sequence. And then there are basic things like drawing lines and so on, but by that stage, there's nothing to port.
[12:56] <shiftplusone> So I think only the functions to send the data and commands need to be ported
[12:57] <Enverex> Curious. Does anyone here also have an Odroid as well as their Pi?
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[13:18] <gordonDrogon> wiringPi is a sort of high level wrapper over the underlying hardware GPIO - if you understand the hardware it should be trivial to make wiringPi work on it.
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[13:30] <local> I have rebooted my RPi (the one with logcheck issue), and did a "watch -n1 'ps aux |grep -i logcheck". It did ran about 25mins with >95% CPU usage. And then I got a "segmentation fault" line :( I have no clue what is happening there. Any hints how to debug/analyze?
[13:31] <shiftplusone> local, looks like you're not the only one bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=623298
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[13:35] <local> BTW: what is "SPI" on the RPi ? I just executed "raspi-config" and saw this option to enable under "Advanced Options". Default=not load at system start
[13:36] <shiftplusone> it's an interface used to hook things up to gpio
[13:36] <shiftplusone> things like little LCDs, or another pi is you want.
[13:36] <shiftplusone> *if
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[13:41] <local> oh I see, ok. TY
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[13:49] <local> shiftplusone: thanks for the link (bug report) relating to logcheck. To be honest, I did not really understand what the problem is because english is not my native language. Sorry for asking again, but: is the reason some old logfile under /var/log or any particular logfile which is causing that problem? I am running logcheck fine on four other RPi's and don't understand that
[13:50] <shiftplusone> I didn't look too much into it
[13:51] <SirLagz> grrr, stupid xubuntu
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[13:56] <local> I have no package similar to "leafnode" or "fetchnews"
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[13:57] <shiftplusone> maybe lsof will tell you what egrep is working on
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[14:13] <t_dot_zilla> hello, is anyone getting shared library errors when starting applications?
[14:13] <t_dot_zilla> /usr/bin/minidlna: error while loading shared libraries: /usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/libgnutls.so.26: nonzero padding in e_ident
[14:13] <t_dot_zilla> like that ^
[14:13] <t_dot_zilla> and it's not always the same error
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[14:14] <shiftplusone> doesn't look good
[14:15] <t_dot_zilla> shiftplusone: yeah, it is annoying because if i reboot the pi enough, the app will sometimes start
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[14:15] <shiftplusone> a long shot, but maybe use debsums to check for corruption?>
[14:15] <t_dot_zilla> can you elaborate on how to do that?
[14:16] <shiftplusone> Well, I just launched minidlna without any problems, and I assume we are both running raspbian
[14:16] <shiftplusone> so I am thinking maybe your filesystem is a little messed up
[14:16] <shiftplusone> debsums checks the files on your sd card versus the files provided by apt
[14:17] <t_dot_zilla> yes, shiftplusone it is a problem with my pi, not that app
[14:17] <t_dot_zilla> and it is the filesystem
[14:17] <t_dot_zilla> but i dont know how to fix it
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[14:18] <shiftplusone> I haven't used debsums, but if you find which files are broken, you can reinstall the relevant packages.
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[14:21] <shiftplusone> (though I don't recommend bothering with all of that and just backing up what you need and starting from scratch with a USB root)
[14:22] <t_dot_zilla> oye, i have a nice SD card, highest rated
[14:22] <t_dot_zilla> can't believe it is going to crap
[14:22] <t_dot_zilla> only been running a year or so...
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[14:29] <[Saint]> t_dot_zilla: fun fact, a class 10 sdcard can far excede the throughput the pi can provide.
[14:29] <[Saint]> tl;dr version: "pretty much unnecessary".
[14:29] <t_dot_zilla> i have a class 10
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[14:30] <t_dot_zilla> well, i say go big or go home
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[14:31] <[Saint]> The only benefit that will give you is on the odd occasion that you're re-imaging the sdcard.
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[14:31] <[Saint]> The pi /probably/ won't ever come close to maxing out a modern class 10 card's throughput.
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[14:32] <[Saint]> Any data you care about shouldn't be on an sd anyway.
[14:33] <[Saint]> All you need is a 32MB sdcard for /boot
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[14:33] <[Saint]> Offload the rest onto storage that doesn;t suck or blow up when you look at it weird.
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[14:35] <t_dot_zilla> [Saint]: that is cool... but i have the entire rasbian filesystem on the SD card
[14:35] <t_dot_zilla> how do i just use it for the /boot ?
[14:36] <[Saint]> ...by not having the / partition on there.
[14:36] <[Saint]> offload that onto USB.
[14:36] <[Saint]> (throughput will *still* suck, but, its vastly more reliable.
[14:36] <[Saint]> )
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[14:37] <t_dot_zilla> yeah, i'm all about reliable
[14:38] <[Saint]> Ask Google about "raspberrypi USB root". It knows.
[14:38] <t_dot_zilla> so you are saying use like an external HD and move files there?
[14:38] <shiftplusone> I found USB to be a bit faster
[14:38] <[Saint]> shiftplusone: probably better random access/writes?
[14:38] <shiftplusone> yeah
[14:39] <[Saint]> ALso, yes. That's exactly what I'm saying.
[14:39] <[Saint]> And what shiftplusone said a wee while earlier.
[14:40] <t_dot_zilla> yo, my root FS is all messed up
[14:40] <t_dot_zilla> http://p.bsd-unix.net/pfsncq0ou
[14:40] <t_dot_zilla> check i tout
[14:40] <[Saint]> Additionally, do yourself a favor and make a separate /home partition.
[14:40] <t_dot_zilla> that is supposed to be an 8G SD card
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[14:40] <shiftplusone> t_dot_zilla, generally, when you power up the pi, it does some magic and then loads kernel.img. When linux loads, it mounts the root partition which has all of your files. The good thing is that the root partition can be anywhere
[14:41] <shiftplusone> you can modify cmdline.txt to make sure it loads it from USB
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[14:41] <[Saint]> Even in teh clowdz.
[14:41] <shiftplusone> but first, you'd have to set up the usb drive to actually have one
[14:41] <t_dot_zilla> shiftplusone: my concern is that what if the USB drive comes up as a different device, like /dev/sdb1 instead of /dev/sdaq
[14:41] <t_dot_zilla> /dev/sda2
[14:42] <nid0> reliable is putting / on a redundant san and accessing it via nfs/iscsi.
[14:42] <shiftplusone> (and instructions for that have been written up many times, so google will help)
[14:42] <t_dot_zilla> lol a san?
[14:42] <shiftplusone> dyslexic for NAS
[14:42] <[Saint]> t_dot_zilla: mounting with uuid makes that irrelevant
[14:42] <t_dot_zilla> that is a bit overkill considering i am just running it under my TV for watching movies using minidlna
[14:43] <t_dot_zilla> [Saint]: mounting with UUID huh?
[14:44] <t_dot_zilla> okay, i guess the first step is doing that with my external HD
[14:44] <[Saint]> fstab should already be doing this.
[14:45] <[Saint]> # swap was on /dev/sda8 during installation
[14:45] <[Saint]> UUID=a807b929-e338-45d4-af4c-3842fcd02698 none swap sw 0 0
[14:45] <t_dot_zilla> no, i manually added the entry to fstab
[14:45] <[Saint]> etc.
[14:45] <t_dot_zilla> ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid/
[14:45] <t_dot_zilla> gives me the UUID
[14:45] <t_dot_zilla> also, i just noticed i have no SWAP partition
[14:46] <[Saint]> Nor shoudl you.
[14:46] <[Saint]> Swapping on the pi is basically a death sentence.
[14:46] <t_dot_zilla> okay cool
[14:46] <t_dot_zilla> so i edited my fstab to use the UUID
[14:47] <[Saint]> Raspbian has swap, by default (but not partition based), but it will try its *absolute* hardest not to use it.
[14:47] <t_dot_zilla> cool... the UUID will never change on that USB drive?
[14:47] <t_dot_zilla> even if i plug it into a different USB port?
[14:47] <[Saint]> No
[14:47] <t_dot_zilla> sweet
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[14:50] <[Saint]> dd a / filesystem from <distro_of_choice> on there, expand it (if you want to), then poke at cmdline.txt in /boot to tell it where to look for / now.
[14:50] <t_dot_zilla> [Saint]: in this tutorial, they modified the cmdline.txt to use the device name and not the UUID
[14:50] <t_dot_zilla> [Saint]: im using rsync to copy the / to /media/external/pi_rootfs
[14:51] <[Saint]> device name/uuid should be interchangeable here.
[14:51] <[Saint]> uuid is just a bit more robust, IMO.
[14:51] <[Saint]> (and that of several major distros)
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[14:51] <Raynerd> Shiftplusone - about? Don't worry, not a big question!
[14:52] <t_dot_zilla> [Saint]: http://p.bsd-unix.net/pzxu3fqx9
[14:52] <shiftplusone> hi
[14:52] <t_dot_zilla> how can i put the UUID in there??
[14:53] <Raynerd> Hi , my anemometer arrived today and I'm pretty sure I can attempt to write something to count the number of pulses/revolutions each 5 second gap or so.
[14:53] <Raynerd> Brb
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[14:54] <[Saint]> "root=UUID" _should_ work.
[14:54] <[Saint]> where UUID actually == a valid UUID
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[14:57] <Raynerd> Shiftplusone - if I wrote that in c with wiringPi, would it be an issue importing the value into the python airpi script? Or best to write it in python
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[14:58] <shiftplusone> I'd stick to one or the other
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[14:58] <shiftplusone> though you can pass data between them if you must
[14:58] <t_dot_zilla> [Saint]: is there anyway to test before i reboot? and what happens if the cmdline.txt breaks? how can i fix it
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[15:01] <[Saint]> If you have access to another system with a card reader the easiest way is probably "mount elsewhere and fix it".
[15:01] <t_dot_zilla> [Saint]: well that makes sense then...
[15:02] <[Saint]> There is a recovery mode on the pi. But its only really useful if you're absolutely stuck and have to fix the system *on* that system.
[15:02] <t_dot_zilla> but damn the fstab will be a bitch to edit
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[15:07] <t_dot_zilla> [Saint]: PARTUUID is needed in the cmdline.txt
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[15:11] <t_dot_zilla> okay and now i am confused
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[15:11] <t_dot_zilla> gdisk is giving me a different UUID than ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid/
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[15:19] <t_dot_zilla> i dont think this is going to work... i need to create a new partition on my external
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[15:21] <Raynerd> Shiftplusone - sorry, I have the kids and wife at work. Thanks the info.
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[15:21] <rio> what is a model b supposed to do when bootet without sd-card? regarding status of the leds and hdmi-output
[15:21] <Raynerd> Im not 100%clear how airpi works, does each sensor have its own py script to read the data for that sensor then send it through to airpi
[15:21] <shiftplusone> Kids and wife, ey? I don't know what sort of vibe you got from me, but...
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[15:22] <Raynerd> Lol... Sorry that i vanished with the reason!!!
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[15:24] <eject_ck> Hi all
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[15:24] <Vibe> shiftplusone: he got me for you
[15:24] <Vibe> so good vibe
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[15:27] <Raynerd> I still can't figure out from anywhere on the github airpi code, WHERE the code is actually fetching the sensor data!
[15:27] <Raynerd> You would presume in the sensor folder of course
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[15:29] <Raynerd> What annoys me is why none of code is commented!!
[15:29] <IT_Sean> rio: you will get the PWR LED, and NO video output
[15:29] <IT_Sean> rio: you need the SD card to boot
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[15:29] <rio> okay i'm asking because i only get the red led even with sd card right now
[15:30] <IT_Sean> the red PWR LED indicates that power is present at the micro USB power gazinta
[15:30] <IT_Sean> It is supposed to be on :p
[15:31] <rio> yeah but nothing else happens
[15:31] <Raynerd> rio: Your sd card ok, checked it?
[15:31] <Raynerd> Sorry, reread, without sd
[15:32] <rio> i recopied the archlinux .img, still no luck
[15:32] <Raynerd> Just red power then
[15:32] <rio> didn't try another card yet
[15:32] <Raynerd> U checked your contacts on your card are making a connection?
[15:32] <Phosie> "Gazinta" technical term? :3
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[15:34] <IT_Sean> Phosie: Yes. "Gazinta" and "Comzouta" are technical terms.
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[15:35] <IT_Sean> rio: how are you "copying" archlinux.img to the card?
[15:35] <rio> dd with bs=1M
[15:35] <[Saint]> rio: you're extracting the archive first, right?
[15:35] <[Saint]> (very common mistake)
[15:35] <rio> as i said, the .img…
[15:36] <[Saint]> You have to forgive us for asking "stupid" questions.
[15:36] <rio> partitions come up fine when i plug the card into my computer
[15:36] <[Saint]> Assuming users know what they're talking about can be dangerous.
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[15:36] <IT_Sean> Okay. Just making sure. I cannot tell you the number of times people have simply dropped the .img file onto the card and expected that to somehow work, instead of WRITING the image to the card.
[15:37] <[Saint]> ...or dd'ing the zip
[15:37] <[Saint]> That's a fun one too.
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[15:38] <bart_b> rio, what's the full name of the image you write? is is arm or hf?
[15:39] <DMackey> IT_Sean, Thats because people don't READ the directions.
[15:39] <DMackey> that Raspberry Pi Download page expalins it clearly as the rest of us know
[15:41] <[Saint]> The clearer the instruction, the higher class of idiot it can expose.
[15:41] <rio> bart_b: 50ab52d7f0b3bc446b94eb2feb08bbbe ArchLinuxARM-2014.02-rpi.img
[15:41] <DMackey> lol
[15:42] <rio> that's the md5sum so you don't tell me to check that next :>
[15:42] <IT_Sean> eeeeasy thar... he's trying to help you.
[15:42] <bart_b> rio .02? the latest on the website is .01... http://downloads.raspberrypi.org/arch/images/arch-2014-01-09/
[15:43] <rio> http://archlinuxarm.org/platforms/armv6/raspberry-pi
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[15:43] <bart_b> try this one from my link
[15:43] <bart_b> anyways, system update will get you up to date ;)
[15:43] <bart_b> but it should work
[15:43] <bart_b> had problems in the past with images from archlinuxarm.org
[15:44] <bart_b> but the ones from rpi downloads page work
[15:44] <bart_b> if not the latest, one of the previous ones
[15:44] <rio> ill try
[15:44] <[Saint]> The foundation image definitely boots.
[15:44] <bart_b> dunno why is that so... partitioning is ok, other systems recognise it, but RPi refuses to work with 'e,
[15:44] <bart_b> 'em*
[15:45] <[Saint]> FW missmatch?
[15:45] <bart_b> may be so. didn't get much into it though
[15:46] <bart_b> but if you manually create partitions and flash them separately with loop mount, they "work"
[15:46] <bart_b> i mean those from archlinuxarm website
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[16:02] <rio> bart_b: no luck :/
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[16:13] <bart_b> rio, try different image, different card, different distro to make sure RPi works at all
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[16:15] <bart_b> and make sure you follow this steps http://elinux.org/RPi_Easy_SD_Card_Setup
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[16:18] <rio> any other steps then dd bs=1M in that article?
[16:18] <rio> s/then/than/
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[16:19] <[Saint]> block size isn't strictly necessary, either, actually.
[16:19] <bart_b> nope, not really.. ;)
[16:19] <rio> [Saint]: i was wondering about that, just kept it since it says 1M everywhere
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[16:26] <lorenzo> hi! how much current can I draw from the 5V of the GPIO header?
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[16:37] <rio> put the image on another sdcard and it boots!
[16:39] <knob> lorenzo, good question... I have no idea
[16:39] <knob> Hopefully somebody will shed some light soon
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[16:39] <IT_Sean> lorenzo: "not much"
[16:40] <IT_Sean> the 5v pin on the GPIO header is common to the power gazinta
[16:40] <lorenzo> oh ok
[16:42] <gordonDrogon> lorenzo, there is, in-general 200mA "spare" on the Pi's 5V supply. This is shared between the USB and the GPIO.
[16:42] <gordonDrogon> that limit comes from the 700mA polyfuse on the �USB input and the Pi's own requirement of up to 500mA.
[16:42] <gordonDrogon> the Pi may well use less than that though.
[16:43] <lorenzo> my PI uses 400 mA
[16:43] <lorenzo> I need to power a 150mA fan
[16:43] <lorenzo> but yeah to stay on the safe side I think it may be better to use the power supply directly :/
[16:43] <rio> so it boots from another sdcard but the 'failing' sdcard works fine on my computer :/
[16:43] <IT_Sean> why are you powering a fan?
[16:43] <IT_Sean> the raspi does not need a fan, dude.
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[16:45] <lorenzo> are you sure?
[16:45] <IT_Sean> Quite sure
[16:45] <lorenzo> here is what I'm doing: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/76740016/imgs/fan.JPG
[16:46] <IT_Sean> The raspi is designed to operate without any additional cooling apparatus
[16:46] <IT_Sean> You do not need a fan
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[16:48] <lorenzo> oh ok :)
[16:48] <knob> lorenzo, 1st, I would take it out of that foam housing
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[16:49] <knob> But, yeah... man, I have various rPis operating inside a "security camera housing", under the sun... and they work fine
[16:49] <knob> No fan needed! For real!
[16:49] <knob> I mean, people sell heat sinks for the rPis... yet I think there was a thread saying that they are NOT needed
[16:49] <rio> knob: who are you spying on? ;)
[16:49] <lorenzo> knob, well recycling the stuff it came in sounded anticapitalist enough :D
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[16:50] <knob> rio, no... just some surf cameras... to know when the waves are good for surfing
[16:50] <knob> :D
[16:50] <knob> lorenzo, lol cool man
[16:50] <knob> haha
[16:50] <knob> But yeah... some rPis I have them inside AdaFruit's little $10 case
[16:50] <lorenzo> also I don't think it suffers any more compared to most commercial cases
[16:50] <knob> When I compile stuff, it gets very warm... so that's why I take them out of the case.. and kind of stand them up on their side (for airflow)
[16:51] <knob> yet normal operation? Man, never had a problem
[16:51] <lorenzo> mine just has lighttpd + some cgi scripts for UPS monitoring
[16:51] <lorenzo> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/76740016/imgs/ups.png
[16:51] <lorenzo> feels like controlling chernobyl man
[16:52] <rio> any idea why an sdcard stops working with the pi but seems fine in my card laptops card slot?
[16:52] <knob> lorenzo, dude, that is very nice!
[16:52] <knob> wow
[16:52] <knob> rio, what power supply are you using?
[16:53] <knob> And, is it a quality SD card? I had a non-name Chinese die on me
[16:53] <rio> knob: tried both the usb-port of my laptop and an external micro-usb-power-supply
[16:53] <rio> the card is a 16G sdhc by tanscend
[16:54] <knob> the external micro-usb... how many mA ??? I have gotten the rPi to power up with 550mA supply... yet when doing anything worthwhile, it.. flakes
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[16:54] <knob> Man, first thing I would do... at least 1,000mA... I bought a bunch of 2A 5V adapters,... and use those in almost everything
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[16:55] <knob> Never have problems when running wiFi and the rPi camera (although external hdds I always power from a powered-usb hub)
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[16:58] <knob> rio, first thing I would do in your situation is go with a high-power 5v adapter (1,000mA minimum... although the rPi DOES run fine with less... 1A just to rule out... I dunno... )
[17:00] <rio> yeah, 1000mA
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[17:03] <t_dot_zilla> and my pi won't come up :(
[17:03] <t_dot_zilla> followed this tutorial to move the / fs
[17:03] <t_dot_zilla> http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=44177
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[17:06] <t_dot_zilla> damnit
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[17:07] <rio> knob: what's the second thing you would do? :>
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[17:47] <t_dot_zilla> i feel like cursing!
[17:47] <t_dot_zilla> but the bot will ban me for it
[17:47] <sney> there's no more bot! but the uk ops seem awake so you probably will get banned, yes
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[17:50] <IT_Sean> this US op is awake as well
[17:51] <IT_Sean> And even if we are all asleep, we do check the logs.
[17:52] <t_dot_zilla> oh
[17:52] <IT_Sean> yah
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[18:07] <rio> any way to find out what is wrong with my sdcard? it seems perfectly fine when plugged into my computer
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[18:07] <knob> rio... hmm
[18:08] <knob> Maybe.. scan it?
[18:08] <knob> What does the rPi do when booted with that card?
[18:08] <rio> nothing
[18:08] <rio> act doesn't go green
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[18:08] <knob> And does it boot up with a different carD?
[18:08] <knob> Or that is the only one you have?
[18:09] <rio> it does boot up with a different card
[18:09] <knob> dang
[18:09] <knob> Basic questions (what the heck!)... does the physical write-lock of the card... is it off?
[18:10] <rio> yes
[18:10] <Phosie> I believe the pi ignores the lock anyway
[18:10] <rio> i think so too
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[18:11] <knob> Wow... I didn't know that... good to know
[18:11] <knob> man, rio...
[18:11] <knob> can't you do a new copy of the card?
[18:11] <knob> maybe dd?
[18:11] <rio> i already rewrote the image to the card
[18:12] <rio> the same i wrote to the other card that works
[18:12] <knob> Man... in my case, I would just toss the card...
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[18:13] <honkeygenius> if someone could take a look my bash script www.pastebin.com/TjJU9i4g i'd appreciate it. i'm having trouble parsing a multi-line return.
[18:13] <knob> life is short... I know I know... yet I would throw that card to the trash... get a new one
[18:13] <rio> i don't like tossing 16G, but i might send it back to amazon :>
[18:13] <knob> rio, yeah.... yet for 15$.... I mean, how much is your time worth? Shiping, etc
[18:14] <knob> I buy my cards from the same seller at eBay.... good prices (not cheapest), yet I have never had a problem with him
[18:14] <rio> i'm a student so my time is pretty worthless :D
[18:14] <knob> And they're always factory sealed in the box
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[18:14] <knob> rio, never say that man!! Time is the only coin you have.
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[18:17] <knob> honkeygenius, I am reading your script, yet I am a n00b... so my skills are not that up to par
[18:17] <knob> Yet, you can always paste that over in #bash... very active channel, and very friendly people
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[18:17] <honkeygenius> i may just do that
[18:18] <honkeygenius> in fact i will
[18:18] <knob> Yeah man... they're very cool over there
[18:19] <honkeygenius> oh and thanks for taking a look, knob
[18:20] <knob> honkeygenius, sure thing man... in fact, I am studying it... learning from it
[18:20] <knob> =)
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[18:29] <knob> rio, slashdot's quote at the bottom right now is: You will lose an important disk file.
[18:29] <knob> -_-
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[18:30] <rio> glad i didn't lose any data, just this stupid piece of plastic
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[18:34] <knob> ehh... put it into perspective.
[18:34] <knob> I remember when I copied EF2000 (jet fighter game) in something like 34-35 floppy disks (3.5")
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[18:35] <knob> And just yesterday I moved my Tandy TRS1000 computer to another closet at my house. To think that the rPi has hundreds of times more computing power
[18:35] <honkeygenius> that's like seventy 5.25" disks!
[18:35] <knob> honkeygenius, man, I didn't get to use 5.25' disks... when I was little, I went straight to the 3.5"
[18:36] <knob> I remember when the iOmega ZIP disk came out... that was like HOLY MOLLY
[18:36] <knob> and there was or that time the "Super Disc" (disk?) too... it was a 120MB "floppy" in 3.5" format
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[18:36] <honkeygenius> i hated those zip disks. they were so expensive and you couldn't use them everywhere
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[18:37] <knob> honkeygenius, yeah... I went with my zip drive up and down everywhere (parallel, if I am not mistaken)
[18:37] <gordonDrogon> http://unicorn.drogon.net/lode.jpg for some 5.25" disks ...
[18:37] <honkeygenius> it's hard to believe that the rpi is exponentially more powerful then they computer they used to land on the moon!
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[18:39] <rio> knob: pushing the card against the pcb fixes the issue
[18:39] <knob> rio... hmm... that's a sign of "you're on your way to fixing it!"
[18:39] <knob> interesting
[18:40] <rio> knob: so it seems the contacts are bad on the card and/or the pi
[18:40] <knob> maybe it's internal?
[18:40] <knob> Yet if it was on the rPi, I would expect your other card to also work kinda-flaky
[18:40] <knob> if you look at the cards side-by-side... do the contacts line up the same?
[18:40] <knob> interesting problem man
[18:40] <rio> ill try bending the contacts in the slot a little
[18:40] <knob> gordonDrogon, wow... I wasn't around for that time!
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[18:42] <ShorTie> you could use magic marker to find the colprite
[18:42] <gordonDrogon> knob, I was - Apple II was the 3rd computer I programmed.
[18:42] <knob> gordonDrogon, wowza... pretty awesome!
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[18:43] <gordonDrogon> it's because of that and some code I wrote on it that I've now written my own BASIC interpreter - some 34 years later ...
[18:44] <rio> okay, bended everything a little and it boots without holding it
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[18:45] <knob> rio, w00t w00t!
[18:45] <knob> gordonDrogon, I should get more into coding
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[18:45] <knob> I read the other day "Eat code daily"
[18:46] <gordonDrogon> it's good if you can code..
[18:46] <gordonDrogon> well, I think its good, but I know that it's not for everyone.
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[18:47] <knob> gordonDrogon, the little coding I have done, is all shell scripting. And I love it. Seeing a "mini machine" churn out what I envisioned
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[18:48] <rio> knob: http://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/873/raspberry-pi-fails-to-turn-on
[18:49] <rio> seems like i'm not the only one
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[18:50] <Enverex> Is it relatively easy to code Arduino code to work with the Pi? (in general, i.e. libraries for modules such as LCDs, etc).
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[18:52] <gordonDrogon> Enverex, didn't you ask this earlier? the answer is "relatively easy" (for some value of easy)
[18:53] <gordonDrogon> the wiringPi library may help you here and it already has some code for LCDs, etc.
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[19:10] <knob> Curious I2C question... when I buy an I2C module... does the seller have it's "address" set? Or do they sell them pre-set with the address??
[19:10] <knob> Or do I set them when they get to me?
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[19:16] <tdy> i don't think it's the seller
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[19:17] <tdy> it's hardwired via the manufacturer
[19:17] <tdy> sometimes you can toggle between 2, but that's it
[19:17] <lorenzo> it's the seller iirc
[19:17] <lorenzo> e.g. ds1307 has 1101000
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[19:19] <tdy> the ones i've used, like adxl345 and mma7455, have the address listed in the spec sheet
[19:19] <tdy> same with mpu6050.. listed as 0x68 and 0x69 in the manufacturer spec sheet
[19:19] <Enverex> gordonDrogon: Sorry, I'd forgotten if I'd asked that here or somewhere else for something similar. Whoops.
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[19:26] <knob> tdy, lord4163 Thanks :) that helps.
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[19:27] <lord4163> knob: no problem
[19:27] <knob> haha sorry lord4163 meant lorenzo....
[19:28] <knob> but thanks man =)
[19:28] <lord4163> :D
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[19:45] <Raynerd> This is probably a dumb question but is wiringPi run a python script or c?
[19:47] <Raynerd> Don't answer.... Sorry
[19:48] <Raynerd> Is there anything similar in python?
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[19:48] <Enverex> knob: With the MCP23017 you set it by grounding/5v'ing certain pins, with the BlinkM you set it with a script, et
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[19:50] <Enverex> knob: Depends on the device really
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[19:53] <IT_Sean> Raynerd: It's okay, there are no silly questions.
[19:53] <IT_Sean> ... except that one.
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[19:59] <gordonDrogon> Hm. it appears I can only detect 2 different keys being pushed at the same time. But games manage it. wonder how...
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[20:02] <gordonDrogon> seems it might depend on the order the keys are pressed in. SDL didn't warm me that. ah well.
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[20:09] <Nopik> how long should btrfs balance run on a device? more or less as long as reading+writing whole sd card, or more?
[20:10] <Nopik> i've started one balance, and basically my raspberry stopped to be responsive for past half an hour.. although it answers ping it does not do anything else apparently (no ssh/web/shell)
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[20:16] <knob> Enverex, thanks!
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[20:21] <Raynerd> IT_Sean: Ha, thanks :-)
[20:21] <rio> knob: did you get the stackexchange-link? :>
[20:22] <knob> rio, yeah! I read it
[20:22] <knob> I don't know... maybe manufacturing defect? I mean, of course it can happen
[20:22] <knob> Yet, is yours working rio, after you slightly bent the pins?
[20:23] <rio> yes that fixed it
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[20:27] <rio> oh this problem is described in http://elinux.org/R-Pi_Troubleshooting#Red_power_LED_is_on.2C_green_LED_does_not_flash.2C_nothing_on_display as well
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[20:41] <ShorTie> sounds like bad image write to the sdcard
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[20:48] <Techguy305> hello
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[21:40] <Raynerd> I have a anemometer - wind speed measuring sensor. Basically one of those egg cup things that spins around. All I know is that there is a read switch in it which if wired correctly will pulse once per rev. Before I do anything difficult, I just wrote this to get some basic function! Print "one rev" each time the reed switch triggers. I get nothing :-( any thoughts?
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[21:42] <Raynerd> http://pastebin.com/vRKFsJ94
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[21:42] <pksato> Raynerd: choose a pin, set correspondent gpio to use as input, set pullup, and read.
[21:43] <rikkib> You need to set the trigger edge to falling
[21:44] <rikkib> maybe
[21:44] <pksato> connected to gnd and pin 11?
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[21:45] <pksato> use GPIO.setmode(GPIO.BOARD), this is a direct pin reference.
[21:46] <Raynerd> pksato - I thought your suggestion is what my code is doing?
[21:47] <pksato> nothing?
[21:47] <pksato> have a two loop.
[21:47] <Raynerd> ?
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[21:48] <pksato> while 1 { while false {code} }
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[21:48] <pksato> second loop never run.
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[21:50] <wanderingi> Are there any applications that can be used as a download manager on the pi? I was looking at pyload but not sure how I can specify the username and password for the links im downloading from
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[21:52] <rikkib> man pyload reveals nothing?
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[21:56] <wanderingi> ive been searching and continue to search but i haven't found anything that's been obvious to me
[21:56] <pksato> Raynerd: this code my be works http://pastebin.com/f2B0SEew
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[22:01] <Raynerd> pksato - I appreciate it!!
[22:01] <Raynerd> working with that... thank you!
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[22:14] <[styx]> Hello im having trouble updating libtorrent on my pi for deluge
[22:14] <[styx]> on make I get errors saying "Warning: swp{b} use is deprecated for this architecture"
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[22:20] <skullcrasher> anyone running gitlab 6.x on pi?
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[22:39] <t_dot_zilla> i broke my pi today
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[22:39] <t_dot_zilla> well physically it is fine... tried moving the rootfs to an external drive
[22:39] <t_dot_zilla> ....and failed
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[22:41] <IT_Sean> So, you broke the SD card image
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[22:41] <IT_Sean> reflash and start over
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[22:54] <basti> is there any template with all the pins you can print in order to stick it on a circuit board?
[22:54] <basti> i still have to double checl/count if i am at the right pin
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[22:55] <basti> it is not hard to make it myself, but...
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[22:56] <pksato> basti: have some flying on the net.
[22:56] <pksato> http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/3307
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[22:58] <pksato> http://www.adafruit.com/blog/2013/07/19/71058/
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[23:12] <basti> thanks pksato
[23:13] <Raynerd> Hi pksato - you vanished earlier, thanks for the code. it worked great
[23:13] <pksato> :)
[23:14] <Raynerd> What is the difference between using Rpi.GPIO library and say a library written called pigpio? My point being, why are there all these different libraries to do the same thing?
[23:15] <gordonDrogon> Raynerd, it's nice to have choice.
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[23:15] <gordonDrogon> wiringPi is the obvious choice of-course ;-)
[23:15] <shiftplusone> Raynerd, because https://xkcd.com/927/
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[23:16] <Raynerd> yes, but with my lack of understanding, I dont see why! Yes, but yours I can see has benefits!! Most of the python ones do the same thing!
[23:16] <shiftplusone> They may do it differently.
[23:17] <Raynerd> OK
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[23:18] <shiftplusone> IIRC wiringpi does it by poking around the memory directly.
[23:18] <gordonDrogon> so does pig pio.
[23:18] <gordonDrogon> and RPi.GPIO now.
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[23:18] <shiftplusone> good
[23:19] <Raynerd> Is pigpio OK then ? That is what I`m using?
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[23:19] <Raynerd> OK - being commonly used, well written.
[23:19] <gordonDrogon> who knows.
[23:19] <Raynerd> I just wanted something in python
[23:19] <gordonDrogon> I write wiringPi, so I prefer that to anything else.
[23:19] <shiftplusone> I remember an article on hackaday about someone using /dev/mem instead of a kernel module on one of the other boards (cubieboard maybe) and it was a big deal for them, because there was like a 100x performance boost or something. Don't remember the details.
[23:20] <gordonDrogon> I think wiringPi has been ported to the cubieboard..
[23:20] <gordonDrogon> I saw something about it a while back.
[23:20] <shiftplusone> Didn't they ask you to?
[23:20] <gordonDrogon> they asked me to do it - I asked them to send me hardware and then heard nothing more )-:
[23:20] <Raynerd> I now have my anemometer spinning and me recording a pulse on the rising edge of each pulse. I count pulses each second. What would be the best way to Average out ten seconds / ten readings of data. In my head I want to store them to ten different variables, avg them and clear them but there must be some better way.... array, list ??!
[23:20] <shiftplusone> ah
[23:20] <shiftplusone> there's a moving average formula
[23:21] <Raynerd> ewww.. that sounds wicked!!
[23:21] <Raynerd> I`ll google
[23:21] <gordonDrogon> low-pass filter.
[23:21] <shiftplusone> EMA
[23:21] <shiftplusone> exponential moving average
[23:22] <shiftplusone> I used that a while back for a data recovery project
[23:22] <gordonDrogon> keep an array of X values. push a new value in, pop an old value out - average the array.
[23:22] <shiftplusone> my approach is more memory and cpu efficient
[23:22] <gordonDrogon> that gives a dampening effect - or a low pass filter.
[23:22] <shiftplusone> >.>\
[23:22] <gordonDrogon> probably.
[23:23] <shiftplusone> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moving_average#Exponential_moving_average
[23:23] <Raynerd> :-O simples!
[23:24] <shiftplusone> the value of alpha will need some tweaking if you decide to do it that way
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[23:25] <shiftplusone> I was using it to adjust for stretch on old tapes, going by the assumption that they are not stretched uniformly... Turns out they are and it was all pointless.
[23:25] <Raynerd> o_o
[23:27] <Raynerd> Is this going to be quite heavy going on the memory though if I`m trying to read data from all the sensors as well?
[23:27] <shiftplusone> nuh
[23:28] <Raynerd> although I`m going to have to do something to smooth the windspeed as it can`t be a random data value from a point in time...needs to be an average
[23:29] <shiftplusone> yeah, wind speed is complicated topic. =/
[23:29] <ShorTie> high's and low's for the last hour would be nifty too...
[23:29] <rikkib> I am thinking about the same issue with my sensors
[23:30] <shiftplusone> damn... can't find my renewable energy lecture notes.
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[23:30] <rikkib> and what I do with readings that seem to be erroneous
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[23:31] <rikkib> Temperature 29.7 C Pressure 1018 hPa AM2302 Temp: 32.7, RH: 74.4%
[23:31] <rikkib> Temperature 29.7 C Pressure 1018 hPa AM2302 Temp: 65.5, RH: 100.0%
[23:31] <rikkib> Thinks like this
[23:31] <Raynerd> http://youtu.be/uWsIgq8vbGQ
[23:31] <Raynerd> rikkib - this a weather station?
[23:31] <rikkib> Working towards it
[23:32] <Raynerd> that link is the �3 anemometer I just purchased
[23:32] <Raynerd> pretty buzzing that I got it reading data!
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[23:33] <rikkib> Been looking for one of those... but have also ordered mini motors and copter propellers
[23:33] <shiftplusone> hmm "doubling wind speed increases
[23:33] <shiftplusone> the power by 8 times" nice
[23:34] <Raynerd> huh?
[23:34] <shiftplusone> eh nothing
[23:34] <Raynerd> on mine?
[23:34] <rikkib> The biggest challenge is to overcome the 360 deg issue (How to get signal back)
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[23:36] <ShorTie> back from what ??
[23:37] <ShorTie> make a wheel with holes in it and use light maybe to figure out where you are
[23:38] <ShorTie> a encoder type thing
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[23:41] <Datalink> rotary encoders are awesome
[23:42] <Datalink> though if it's expected to spin freely, you should look into shaft encoders
[23:43] <Raynerd> I thought about making one but for �3 I couldnt justify the effort.
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[23:45] <Datalink> hm, is there an easy way to get rid of a fbi splash once my system reaches login aside from changing consoles?
[23:45] <shiftplusone> Raynerd, Found my notes. The most useful data you can gather is a wind speed histogram.
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[23:46] <shiftplusone> Raynerd, from that, you can calculate a Weibull probability density function to describe the site and determine the size of a wind turbine necessary to power the school, for example.
[23:51] <rikkib> Still searching for local sources... never seen low cost cups on the local auction site. and I searched ali express the other day and again now.
[23:51] <Raynerd> :-) that sound pretty damn awesome!
[23:51] <Raynerd> rikkib - where are you again?
[23:51] <rikkib> NZ
[23:52] <Raynerd> shiftplusone - so you could even output that cool info for parents o see
[23:52] <Raynerd> rikkib - we have a shop called maplin over here and it was only �3
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[23:52] <rikkib> Best so far is on a scientific site. $69
[23:52] <Raynerd> the price of say 3 cans of cola.
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[23:53] <Raynerd> No idea on postage, but could send one over if you were stuck.
[23:53] <rikkib> Yeh I have looked up maplin
[23:53] <Raynerd> yup, on their site under weather station spares.
[23:54] <rikkib> I am sure I can ask them
[23:54] <Raynerd> Well bed time - this is for tomorrow now, time for Dexter episode then bed!
[23:54] <rikkib> i am looking so with my kama something will show up.
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[23:55] <Raynerd> well like I say, I can order and post one out to you at cost if you are stuck. Just not sure of the postage
[23:55] <Raynerd> rikkib - what code are you using or you doing your own?
[23:55] <rikkib> Cheers
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[23:56] <rikkib> I am writing my own
[23:56] <rikkib> daemons
[23:56] <rikkib> I am a fan of doing it via tcp/ip
[23:57] <ShorTie> http://www.maplin.co.uk/p/maplin-replacement-anemometer-for-n25fr-n76nf
[23:57] <Raynerd> to be honest, I came across the USB weather station hack yesterday where people have hooked up the data stream from maplins �60 full weather station to a pi and are getting awesome results. Made me a bit cheesed I have paid nearly that for half the number of sensors.
[23:57] <SiC> There is a weather station from maplins for £30 atm
[23:58] <SiC> I'm just finishing making it work with an arduino over 433mhz
[23:58] <SiC> the next plan is to interface that to a pi
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[23:58] <SiC> its very easy as all the code for the arduino is floating around for the 433mhz protocol for those weather station
[23:59] <Raynerd> SiC - I have seen that and I`m curious how it performs! I`m not confident with the programming so would have to go with the �60 version that I know works but let me know if you get it running on the pi!
[23:59] <Raynerd> I`m still toying with buying one actually as this weather station is for school currently but after all this playing around, I quite fancy one for my kids and myself in the garden

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