#raspberrypi IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2014-02-23

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[0:06] <ffog> RPCEmu is good for that too
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[0:22] <nickermire> Anybody have experience with setting up the cross compiler?
[0:22] <shiftplusone> 'the'?
[0:23] <nickermire> the arm-bcm2708-linux-gnueabi
[0:23] <nickermire> provided on git
[0:23] <shiftplusone> haven't used that particular toolchain
[0:23] <shiftplusone> but you generally just add it to PATH and off you go
[0:24] <nickermire> Yeah that is what I thought..
[0:24] <nickermire> But when I run:
[0:24] <nickermire> ./configure --build=x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu --host=arm-bcm2708hardfp-linux-gnueabi
[0:25] <nickermire> it ends up building it as an x86_64
[0:26] <shiftplusone> what are you compiling?
[0:26] <nickermire> nano just to test
[0:27] <nickermire> when it compiles though I can actually run it on my host system.
[0:27] <shiftplusone> I'll see how I go
[0:27] <nickermire> ARCH=arm CROSS_COMPILE=${CCPREFIX} make install DESTDIR=/home/nickermire/nanoarm
[0:28] <nickermire> That's part of the make I ran.
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[0:33] <shiftplusone> things seem to be working fine, just trying to figure out how to add include paths, since it's ignoring cflags
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[0:37] <shiftplusone> builds straight away with scratchbox2 though
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[0:50] <nickermire> Yeah, I am not sure what I'm doing wrong
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[0:56] <ziaj> hey does anyone know a distro that has usbserial included?
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[3:34] <groosh> I'm searching the forums but I figure I'll ask as well. Has anyone wired up a scale to a pi?
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[7:43] <andrewrk> I installed software from source and it went into /usr/local/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf
[7:44] <andrewrk> when I try to run software that depends on it, I get Error: foo.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[7:44] <andrewrk> is this a known thing? should I just compile with --prefix=/usr/local/lib ?
[7:45] <shiftplusone> it's fine
[7:45] <shiftplusone> you need to make sure the path is in ld.so.conf
[7:45] <shiftplusone> then run ldconfig
[7:45] <andrewrk> and it's normal that that path is missing from ld.so.conf by default?
[7:46] <shiftplusone> it doesn't look standard to me
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[7:47] <andrewrk> aha, I see in /etc/ld.so.conf.d/arm-linux-gnueabihf.conf which shipped with the system that it contains that folder, but only in /lib/* and /usr/lib/*, not in /usr/local/lib/*
[7:47] <shiftplusone> yup
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[7:53] <atomi> ?
[7:53] <shiftplusone> yes
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[9:27] <dkog> Hi! Can anybody help me with sticky keys when using a USB hub?
[9:27] <shiftplusone> is the hub powered?
[9:28] <dkog> shiftplusone: yes I'm pretty sure it's not a power issue, as I've tried: hub powered, hub not powered, hub powered and powering rpi, hub powered but rpi powered separately, ...
[9:28] <dkog> the KB works fine when plugged right into rpi
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[9:28] <shiftplusone> you can try the new usb driver, it was re-written
[9:28] <dkog> and this is the plugable 4 port USB hub that is recommended
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[9:29] <shiftplusone> well, not re-written but there was a lot of re-work done on the FIQ side of things.
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[9:29] <dkog> shiftplusone: I've been working offline so far just with Noobs 1.2 Raspian
[9:29] <dkog> is that pretty old?
[9:29] <dkog> This thread is what I'm experiencing: http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=5365&p=80648
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[9:30] <dkog> well mostly
[9:30] <shiftplusone> that thread is ancient. most usb issues have been fixed since then
[9:30] <dkog> more that the lack of resolution in that thread is what i'm experiencing :)
[9:30] <shiftplusone> you have no net access at all on the pi?
[9:30] <dkog> so you think it's a software issue?
[9:30] <dkog> no it's a rpi A with no net interface
[9:31] <shiftplusone> I think it could be, if you're 100% sure your voltage is fine.
[9:31] <shiftplusone> what os do you run on your PC?
[9:31] <dkog> various
[9:32] <shiftplusone> if you have linux available (not in a VM) you can use rpi-update to try the new firmware
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[9:32] <shiftplusone> (you'd need to specify boot and root paths and BRANCH=next)
[9:33] <dkog> I can move files onto rpi via USB sticks
[9:33] <dkog> just no direct net access
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[9:33] <shiftplusone> that's not a safe way to update firmware as there's hell of a lot of userland files you'd need to update as well.
[9:33] <shiftplusone> rpi-update is the way to go, it doesn't have to run on the pi.
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[9:34] <dkog> but it would have to connect to it somehow?
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[9:36] <shiftplusone> no
[9:36] <shiftplusone> you don't have an SD reader?
[9:36] <dkog> what are we calling "firmware" here? something on the SD card or something in the actual rpi hardware?
[9:36] <shiftplusone> on the sd card
[9:37] <shiftplusone> the only firmware on the hardware itself is to load the firmware from the card.
[9:37] <dkog> oh... that's not really "firmware" if it's on removable storage... is that what it's commonly called?
[9:38] <shiftplusone> it doesn't matter where it's stored
[9:38] <shiftplusone> it runs on the GPU
[9:38] <dkog> I guess I'm just not following. I'm reading https://github.com/Hexxeh/rpi-update and also can't understand what's really going on.
[9:39] <shiftplusone> it downloads the 'firmware' and relevant userland files from github, so you get the latest... stuff.
[9:39] <shiftplusone> sudo BRANCH=next ROOT_PATH=/media/root BOOT_PATH=/media/boot rpi-update
[9:39] <shiftplusone> with the relevant paths
[9:40] <dkog> who is this "Hexxeh" guy who is distributing firmware?
[9:41] <shiftplusone> http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/tag/hexxeh
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[9:43] <dkog> ok so the firmware only lives on the sdcard... what differentiates this "firmware" from the OS installed?
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[9:43] <dkog> and furthermore if Noobs is supposed to be a super easy noob experience, is it not possibly to just download the latest Noobs and have it "just work" ?
[9:44] <shiftplusone> Not sure I understand the question.
[9:44] <shiftplusone> Yes, but experimental, untested firmware is not something they'd push to NOOBS before it's ready.
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[9:44] <shiftplusone> (at least you'd hope)
[9:44] <dkog> When I update firmware on any other device, it's typically running some small program that pushes new data into flash rom. I run it once, and the hardware is updated.
[9:45] <dkog> Here you are saying that "updating firmware" is really just installing something extra on the SD card, and that if I use another SD card, the firmware isn't updated any more.
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[9:45] <shiftplusone> You understand that the firmware can live anywhere, as long as the hardware reads it from the same location?
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[9:46] <shiftplusone> The pi is designed in such a way that the firmware lives on the card rather than on an extra chip
[9:46] <shiftplusone> keeps the cost done and makes updating easier, I suppose.
[9:46] <dkog> OK so this is a rather new concept to me, so what I'm asking is if the firmware lives on the removable media where the OS does too, then what differentiates the firmware from the OS itself? Ie is the firmware on a separate partition?
[9:47] <shiftplusone> it is
[9:47] <dkog> And re Noobs -- you said the USB stuff was fixed a long time ago, but I just got a brand new rpi, new hub, and new Noobs SD card, and it's not fixed...
[9:48] <dkog> So is the fix only part of experimental untested firmware, or is it really fixed and stable somewhere?
[9:48] <shiftplusone> I said that particular thread was old. I didn't say all issues were fixed, just most of the annoying ones.
[9:48] <dkog> Sorry this is all very new to me, so I'm still trying to find my way around
[9:48] <shiftplusone> That's fine, I understand it's different from other devices.
[9:49] <dkog> I expected to have problems as I got into esoteric deep dark crannies, not plugging a keyboard into a hub...
[9:49] <shiftplusone> same
[9:49] <dkog> (a hub which is recommended as the best one for rpi)
[9:49] <shiftplusone> the experience you are having is not the norm
[9:50] <dkog> I have googled for similar issues, and that old thread is all I've really found, so I don't know what else to do :(
[9:50] <shiftplusone> no spare keyboard to try?
[9:50] <shiftplusone> or does this happen with all keyboards?
[9:51] <dkog> I have another kb but it doesn't have function keys. I'll go try it now.
[9:52] <linuxstb> dkog: What's known as the "firmware" is the software that runs on the GPU. The "OS" is the software that runs on the CPU. The firmware is loaded first (from the SD card), and then that firmware loads the OS kernel (also from the SD card). The GPU is in charge.
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[9:57] <dkog> OK I just tried my other KB and it works, BUT so does the original one. This is the problem - the KB issue is non-deterministic, so it's impossible to accurately diagnose what's causing it.
[9:57] <dkog> sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't
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[9:57] <dkog> linuxstb: thank you
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[9:58] <dkog> I've spent so many hours already messing around with hubs and keyboards and power... discarded a dozen deductions after realizing the works/broken distinction is more random than based on anything I was doing.
[9:59] <shiftplusone> I am not too familiar with these things, but I think there's a way to see if Linux is dropping USB packets.
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[10:00] <shiftplusone> It does sound a little like low voltage (at least my keyboard tends to drop events when the voltage is low), but if you're sure that's not it, then there's only software to look at.
[10:00] <shiftplusone> Maybe stick with the new keyboard and see if you run into the problem after a while?
[10:00] <dkog> I have both plugged in now, and neither is sticking
[10:01] <BitEvil> USB has unfixable issues on Pi IME.
[10:01] <BitEvil> Maybe some hardware works.
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[10:01] <dkog> SpeedEvil: you mean some hardware (keyboards) might just be not compatible?
[10:02] <SpeedEvil> I mean the Pi USB controller is basically broken.
[10:02] <SpeedEvil> I should investigate more to see if it's actually unfixable or just I haven't been able to fix it - or if it's a hardware issue for me.
[10:02] <SpeedEvil> But...
[10:02] <SpeedEvil> It's certainly not a power issue for me
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[10:03] <dkog> I'm pretty sure it's not power for me either
[10:03] * shiftplusone wouldn't go that far, but SpeedEvil is not wrong.
[10:03] <dkog> so... if the USB interface is broken, how is nobody talking about this?
[10:03] <SpeedEvil> I have two different models of keyboard that both suffer from random lost chars.
[10:03] <dkog> SpeedEvil: can you confirm that some keyboards work properly 100% of the time?
[10:03] <shiftplusone> dkog, http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=23544
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[10:04] <shiftplusone> the last page is the one to look at
[10:05] <dkog> wow this is giving me a very bad first impression
[10:06] <shiftplusone> If I ran into such issues, I probably would have a bad impression too.
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[10:08] <dkog> this has been going on for long enough that in 2012 they were already threatening to delete posts of people complaining because it's all been covered already...
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[10:08] <shiftplusone> 'this' is not a single issue
[10:09] <shiftplusone> it's a collection of many smaller things, which are constantly changing and improving
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[10:09] <shiftplusone> and the new firmware aims to clean things up and make it more manageable and should be a great improvement
[10:11] <jsoft> :D
[10:12] <jsoft> My gps logger gizmo is ready for the motorbike ride tomorrow :)
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[10:12] <shiftplusone> nice
[10:12] <dkog> Now when I look at https://github.com/raspberrypi/firmware and it mentions "The kernel.img files are builds of the Linux kernel" -- is this still "firmware" ?
[10:12] <shiftplusone> which GPS module are you using?
[10:12] <jsoft> shiftplusone: what do you mean?
[10:12] <jsoft> shiftplusone: I forget the name of the chip, but its a serial one
[10:12] <jsoft> rs232
[10:13] <shiftplusone> ah
[10:13] <shiftplusone> could hook up a camera and have a nice video with a minimap
[10:13] <jsoft> shiftplusone: nah its just logging atm. No monitor or anything. Fits in my backback
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[10:14] <jsoft> shiftplusone: I would need a huge sd card to do 8 hours worth of logging :)
[10:14] <jsoft> (video that is)
[10:14] <shiftplusone> Ah, that's no fun, the phone will do that =(
[10:14] <jsoft> what phone
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[10:15] <shiftplusone> well most phones with GPS will let you log a trip, heh. But doing it with the pi is a little more interesting though
[10:15] <shiftplusone> dkog, trying to draw the line is going to be fuzzy. I would not class the kernel as the firmware, but it's related. You don't want to run firmware that does not match the userland stuff.
[10:15] <jsoft> shiftplusone: version 1 :) Version 2 will do other stuff.
[10:16] <jsoft> shiftplusone: only just finished getting it to work tonight, riding out tomorrow morning :D
[10:16] <dkog> OK so in https://github.com/raspberrypi/firmware which userland OS is expected?
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[10:16] <shiftplusone> dkog, do you intend to do it all manually or do you just want to understand?
[10:17] <shiftplusone> jsoft, got an awesome trip planned?
[10:17] <dkog> both
[10:17] <dkog> understand first, then do
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[10:17] <jsoft> shiftplusone: from wellington to christchurch via ferry ( NZ )
[10:18] <jsoft> eel ferry across the straight I should say.
[10:18] <shiftplusone> dkog, if you want to do it manually, look at the rpi-update source code. I don't know ALL the files you will need, but you will want the modules https://github.com/raspberrypi/firmware/tree/master/modules/3.10.30%2B and some libs from here https://github.com/raspberrypi/firmware/tree/master/opt
[10:18] <shiftplusone> jsoft, a lot of twisties there or are you just moving or something?
[10:19] <jsoft> shiftplusone: Im moving to christchurch
[10:19] <shiftplusone> ah
[10:19] <jsoft> traveling to christchurch I mean
[10:19] <jsoft> Just me and my bike and bag ( and pi )
[10:19] <shiftplusone> =(
[10:20] <shiftplusone> makes me want to ride the great ocean road, but my bike is having issues
[10:20] <jsoft> shiftplusone-> gps is similar to this: http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Free-shipping-New-MT3329-serial-GPS-Module-Satellite-locator/727146726.html
[10:20] <dkog> shiftplusone, linuxstb: would you please point me toward some technical docs that explain the boot process and what's loaded from where and when?
[10:20] <jsoft> shiftplusone: what bike?
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[10:21] <shiftplusone> jsoft, nothing fancy, it's a cruiser, unfortunately. Kawasaki VN250.
[10:21] <jsoft> Ahh ok :) Get that thing going! :D
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[10:22] <dkog> And if I install a Raspbian "raw image" from http://www.raspberrypi.org/downloads (2014-01-07), would that include the "firmware"?
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[10:22] <shiftplusone> jsoft, that's the plan.
[10:22] <jsoft> shiftplusone: yeah one of these: http://www.thanksbuyer.com/image/cache/data/sku-14524-3-600x600.jpg a VK162 :)
[10:23] <jsoft> shiftplusone: whats wrong with it?
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[10:23] <jsoft> Also, whats a normal logging rate for GPS?
[10:23] <jsoft> Im doing it every 5 seconds, is that too slow?
[10:24] <shiftplusone> dkog, , you can find descriptions of what's going on scattered around, but the GPU is closed, so there's no one document with all the information. In a nutshell. bootcode.bin is the first thing loaded, which then loads start.elf, which loads the linux kernel and hands control over to ARM. And yes, the raw image has everything (but not the experimental firmware).
[10:24] <shiftplusone> jsoft, thanks for the link.
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[10:25] <shiftplusone> jsoft, no idea what's wrong with it. It sounds like the muffler fell off and a cylinder died or something. I am no expert, clearly. Visually, things look okay.
[10:26] <shiftplusone> jsoft, a mate and I decided to try out some new roads and ended up on 50km of gravely, dirt road with a very uneven, bumpy surface. Didn't do my bike any good.
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[10:29] <jsoft> shiftplusone: hmm ok
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[10:30] <jsoft> Is anyone familiar with the normal rate at which gps should be logged to look ok in google maps / earth ?
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[10:30] <jsoft> shiftplusone: so does it just sound weird or does it actually not run
[10:30] <jsoft> and is it a single cylinder ?
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[10:32] <jsoft> hmm
[10:36] <shiftplusone> jsoft, nuh, it's a v-twin. It sounds weird, but it runs (also weird)
[10:36] <rikkib> What software do you use with your gps?
[10:36] <shiftplusone> the power isn't there and the sounds get hell of a lot stranger at higher RPMs
[10:37] <jsoft> rikkib: nothing yet
[10:37] <jsoft> rikkib: was just going to export it into gxp
[10:37] <shiftplusone> I wouldn't ride it though for the fear of making things worse. I had to earlier because it happened about 10kms from home.
[10:37] <rikkib> I have a Jupiter hooked to one of my RPi
[10:37] <jsoft> shiftplusone: are you sure its not just the muffler making it sound weird?
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[10:38] <jsoft> rikkib: what is a jupiter?
[10:38] <rikkib> GPS module
[10:38] <jsoft> oh
[10:38] <rikkib> serial
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[10:38] <shiftplusone> jsoft, could be. I've read the service manual and there was a section on melted cat converter, which could be it.
[10:38] <rikkib> spits out stuff every second
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[10:39] <jsoft> rikkib: yeah this one is a serial one, 38400 baud atm. Only logging every second though, with lat, long, alt, bearing, speed, and a timestamp
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[10:40] <rikkib> Spits out this for the potion logger example with libgps -37.275085 175.501272 0.095000 19.200000 46.200000
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[10:41] <jsoft> Ahh ok, I'm just logging like this: 4231.696289,17104.977344,45.673000,1.060000,0.388000,1393148443
[10:42] <jsoft> Which reminds me, I forgot to add in E/W N/S
[10:42] <jsoft> :D
[10:42] <jsoft> Meh, will do it later :)
[10:43] <rikkib> I want to explore sensor stuff that helps make the gps data more accurate.
[10:43] <jsoft> You mean references?
[10:43] <jsoft> Reference stations?
[10:44] <rikkib> have compass and barometer
[10:44] <rikkib> and g force sensor
[10:44] <jsoft> Oh right.
[10:44] <rikkib> all hooked up the the same RPi
[10:45] <jsoft> Well isn't bearing pretty much dependant on where you are moving?
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[10:45] <rikkib> Trying to set the record for things hooked up to a RPI ;)
[10:45] <jsoft> Heh
[10:45] <jsoft> RS485 then :)
[10:46] <rikkib> I2C
[10:46] <rikkib> and spi
[10:46] <jsoft> Or that
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[10:46] <jsoft> What is spi
[10:46] <rikkib> have nRF24 hooked to spi
[10:47] <rikkib> serial peripheral interface
[10:47] <rikkib> Motorola invention
[10:47] <rikkib> now Freescale
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[10:48] <rikkib> The G force sensor is a challenge as it needs a to d
[10:48] <rikkib> But I have just the toy..
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[10:48] <rikkib> MC9S08 devel board
[10:49] <rikkib> A 16 pin 3.3v 8 bit micro
[10:49] <rikkib> with spi and a to d
[10:49] <jsoft> Well there you go :)
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[10:51] <jsoft> Right, might do one more reboot and test and pack this pi up for tomorrow :)
[10:51] <jsoft> They use less power than I thought they would, only around 2 - 300 ma
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[10:52] <gordonDrogon> morning Pi people.
[10:52] <jsoft> MC9508, is that some motorolla gizmo?
[10:52] <rikkib> Morning Gordon
[10:52] <rikkib> Yep... Called Freescale now days
[10:53] <jsoft> Ahh ok.
[10:55] <rikkib> The 9S08 puts the RPi's 300 - 400 mA to shame plus you can put it to sleep
[10:56] <jsoft> Yeah well clearly.
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[10:56] <jsoft> pic's do too
[10:56] <jsoft> any micro with minimal stuff attached can.
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[10:57] <rikkib> I am going to try to wake it up with an nRF24.
[10:58] <rikkib> To make a low power remote sensor array for the rpi
[10:59] <rikkib> Sun Feb 23 22:58:41 NZDT 2014 Bed time
[10:59] <jsoft> Night
[10:59] <rikkib> Night Gordon :)
[10:59] <gordonDrogon> be seeing you..
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[11:01] <rikkib> I got a NoIR cam the other day... Put it in a box today... Will take a pic one it is finished... This one is a little less agricultural.
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[11:40] <jsoft> Noice
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[11:40] <jsoft> rikkib: how much cpu does the camera stuff consume?
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[12:13] <MProg> hi _o/
[12:14] <Encrypt> Hi MProg :)
[12:14] <basti> my usb wlan stick seems to use carl9170 -> alias usb:v0CF3p1002d*dc*dsc*dp*ic*isc*ip*in* carl9170, so i loaded the module > http://paste.debian.net/83582/ but no interface shows up. did i miss something?
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[12:21] <basti> usb 1-1.2.4: No support over 100mA <- .... this is annoying
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[12:28] <basti> can i safely ignore this when i dont use a usb hub?
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[16:09] <djazz> can I change the overscan padding/offsets on the fly without rebooting?
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[16:14] <Jeena> Hi everyone, I wrote up about my confusion about how to use the GPIOs of the raspberry pi https://jeena.net/rp-hw-button
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[16:40] <gbaman> Any suggestions for blanking a pi screen?
[16:40] <gbaman> Am looking for a way to do it for a classroom, blanking the students screens?
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[16:50] <djazz> gbaman: running a desktop or terminal?
[16:50] <gbaman> desktop
[16:50] <gbaman> preferably a way the kids cant find a way round :)
[16:51] <djazz> i guess a regular screenlocker should work
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[16:51] <djazz> try start i3-lock remotely ;)
[16:51] <djazz> you can set an image that will be shown
[16:51] <gbaman> ooo
[16:52] <djazz> i3lock*
[16:52] <gbaman> says you can get past it by entering your password?
[16:52] <djazz> i dont know if there's a way to disable password
[16:53] <gbaman> hmm
[16:53] <gordonDrogon> Jeena, you can use any of the 3 numbering schemes with wiringPi - pick which one you prefer...
[16:54] <gbaman> wonder could you just do something similar to the camera programs? They are displayed over the top of everything..
[16:54] <gbaman> could just display black?
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[16:54] <djazz> gbaman: you would still be able to do stuff
[16:54] <gbaman> i am not bothered about that
[16:54] <djazz> clicking, keyboard input..
[16:54] <gordonDrogon> gbaman, you could try treating the students as adults and trusting them... ;-)
[16:54] <Jeena> yeh now I know that but it took me quite long to understand that there is more then one numbering system and which one the different libraries use
[16:55] <djazz> gbaman: run this: /opt/vc/src/hello_pi/hello_triangle/hello_triangle.bin
[16:56] <gbaman> as much as i would love to, it was a requested feature :)
[16:56] <djazz> it will render a 3D triangle using opengl
[16:56] <djazz> on top of everything
[16:56] <gbaman> hmm
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[16:57] <Jeena> often clients request features which are bad for them
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[16:58] <djazz> I want to learn OpenGL ES on the pi, I want to create some 2D hud/interface. I know a little OpenGL, I have used WebGL (OpenGL ES for the web)
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[16:58] <gordonDrogon> Jeena, re. your button reading 1 when open - how did you wire the button in?
[16:58] <djazz> where should I start?
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[17:00] <Jeena> gordonDrogon like he shows it here in the video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpkI2JGdtAA just on a different pin
[17:00] <basti> i am trying to install mocha with npm: http://nopaste.info/0d2f3dc621.html is this an error on my side or a bug as stated?
[17:01] <gordonDrogon> Jeena, did you do this: GPIO.setup(4, GPIO.IN, pull_up_down=GPIO.PUD_UP)
[17:01] <gordonDrogon> Jeena, (or equivalent?)
[17:02] <Jeena> yes, see line 07 and 08 on the script listing
[17:02] <gordonDrogon> ok.
[17:03] <gordonDrogon> that sets an internal resistor inside the Pi to pull the line up to the 3.3v line. So with nothing conected (or the button open), the input will read 1. When you push the button is short to 0v so reads 0.
[17:03] <Jeena> or hm pull_up_down, hm
[17:04] <Jeena> ok yeah that seems to happen exactly like you say
[17:04] <gordonDrogon> your script is in bash - can't do that in bash.
[17:04] <Jeena> your python script does exactly the same internally :-p
[17:04] <gordonDrogon> if you don't have a pull-up, or set the internal pull up, then the line will float about and may occasionally read 0 even with the switch open.
[17:05] <Jeena> I see, hm I will need to read about that
[17:05] <gordonDrogon> pull_up_down is different from your line 7/8.
[17:05] <Jeena> ok I see
[17:06] <gordonDrogon> I'd use wiringPi's gpio command in my scripts and not use the /sys/class interface at all (but then I wrote it :)
[17:06] <gordonDrogon> gpio -g moe $BUTTON_GPIO in
[17:06] <gordonDrogon> *gpio -g mode $BUTTON_GPIO in
[17:06] <gordonDrogon> gpio -g mode $BUTTON_GPIO up # Sett pullup
[17:07] <gordonDrogon> if [ `gpio -f read $BUTTON_GPIO` -eq 0 ]
[17:07] <gordonDrogon> etc.
[17:07] <Jeena> yeah I used that first but with all my confusion about the numbering systems I decided to stick to the "bare metal"
[17:07] <gordonDrogon> -g on the gpio command gives you BCM_GPIO numbers.
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[17:07] <gordonDrogon> -1 gives you physical P1 numbers.
[17:08] <gordonDrogon> sp gpio read 0 is the same as gpio -g read 17 is the same as gpio -1 read 11
[17:08] <Jeena> yeah I think I could do that now, since I get the different numbering systems now
[17:08] <Jeena> I have the gpio console program installed too already
[17:08] <Jeena> and gpio readall helped a lot with all the understanding
[17:08] <gordonDrogon> ok. that comes with wiringPi.
[17:09] <Jeena> yeah I cloned wiringPi and compiled it during all my tests too
[17:10] <gordonDrogon> http://project-downloads.drogon.net/files/gpioExamples/tuxx.sh <- a script in bash using the gpio command to run the tuxx - pelican light crossing simulator at https://projects.drogon.net/raspberry-pi/gpio-examples/tux-crossing/
[17:10] <Jeena> and I loved the fact that there is actually a man page for gpio too
[17:10] <gordonDrogon> although here I use one of the I2C pins for the button as it has the pull-up resistors fitted on-board.
[17:11] <Jeena> what is this mystic I2C actually? Is it some kind of a chip or something?
[17:12] <Jeena> looking at the board it seems to be the big chip in the middle of the board
[17:12] <gordonDrogon> I2C is a bus for connecting peripherals.
[17:13] <gordonDrogon> there is no I2C chip on the Pi - you're probably looking at the USB/Ethernet chip.
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[17:13] <gordonDrogon> the big black chip in the middle is actually the processor and memory (on-top)
[17:13] <gordonDrogon> Look from the side and you'll see 2 chips stacked one on-top of the other.
[17:13] <Jeena> perhaps, it says "I2C" on top left of the big chip in the middle
[17:14] <Jeena> hm ok
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[17:17] <gordonDrogon> Jeena, way back - even before there was hardware, some folks published the GPIO details and numberd the usable ports gpio0 through gpio7 - so that's what I used in wiringPi. I later added in the BCM_GPIO pin numbers - which subsequently changed from rev 1 to rev2 ... So if you want your code to run on rev 1 and rev 2 Pi's then you need to know about the changes - or use wiringPi numbers which don't change.
[17:17] <Jeena> I see
[17:17] <gordonDrogon> the reason I picked them was to encourage people from Arduino land into Pi land - in the Arduino the pins are numberred from 0 up to $lots - it removes the underlying hardware - e.g. port B, pin 5 is arduino pin 13 - makes it easier to code.
[17:18] * Jeena is reading the C code of gpio to find out what gpio -g mode $BUTTON_GPIO up is doing
[17:18] <gordonDrogon> the up/down/off sets the internal pull-up, pull-down resistors.
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[17:19] <gordonDrogon> still... I got a lot of flak and personal abuse/whinges about my numbering scheme, so I added in the native BCM_GPIO and Physical P1 numbers too.
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[17:23] <Jeena> I see. I actually don't mind which one I need to use, I just was vera frustrated that I wired things up, counted to the pin number put it in there and nothing happened. wiringPi was of the later libs I tried and the gpio readall in combination with one comment in a video I watched on youtube did the trick for me to understand how all the number systems relate to each other
[17:24] <gordonDrogon> well you know them all now :)
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[17:24] <Jeena> yeah :D
[17:24] <gordonDrogon> good learning experience, etc. :)
[17:24] <Jeena> that is actually true
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[17:25] <Jeena> I'm just glad I'm a person willing and able to put in massive amounts of hours into stuff like this, otherwise I would have given up a long time ago :-p
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[17:27] <Jeena> in https://git.drogon.net/?p=wiringPi;a=blob;f=gpio/gpio.c;h=b65af0eb8d63ca3c1fc56eab46d88159d9553c96;hb=HEAD you are using a function called pullUpDnControl(), but I seem not to be able to find out where it is defined
[17:27] <Jeena> is it some external function?
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[17:30] <Jeena> ah found it
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[17:31] <gordonDrogon> it's in wiringPi.c
[17:32] <gordonDrogon> the gpio program was originally a test program for the wiringPi library, but I developed it into a general purpose utility.
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[17:32] <Jeena> yeah it is really cool
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[17:44] <Jeena> hm but gordonDrogon I wired up the button with my own resistor, so in theory I don't need to do "gpio -g mode $BUTTON_GPIO up" although it would be much cooler if I didn't need that external resistor
[17:46] <gordonDrogon> depends where the resistor goes.
[17:47] <gordonDrogon> If you did: +3.3--- RRRR -----+gpio+---BBBB---0v
[17:47] <gordonDrogon> then the gpio is pulled up to 3.3c
[17:47] <gordonDrogon> *3.3v
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[17:52] <gordonDrogon> I normally just go: gpio -- BBB -- 0v with no resistors.
[17:52] <gordonDrogon> and set the internal pull-up.
[17:52] <Jeena> I will try that
[17:52] <gordonDrogon> The down-side is that you have to trust yourself to (a) not make the pin an output, (b) not make it high and (c) not push the button.
[17:52] <Jeena> now that I have installed gpio I might as well just use it too, at least it is well tested, not like my own code
[17:53] <gordonDrogon> because if you do that you'll potentially damage the pin.
[17:53] <Jeena> ok
[17:53] <gordonDrogon> I always encourage people to use the gpio program to do simple tests before diving in with a program.
[17:53] <gordonDrogon> you can test most simple IO devices with it without writing a line of code.
[17:53] <Jeena> hm then I will change that when I solder everything, and until then I use the external resistor
[17:53] <gordonDrogon> although sometimes a few lines of bash is code :)
[17:54] <gordonDrogon> but its easy code!
[17:54] <Jeena> yeah I like bash code
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[18:12] <gordonDrogon> I think I'll remove raspberrypidev from my twitter feed. they've just done an update and my twitter feed has been spammed with a few 100 updates )-:
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[18:22] <Vaizki> hello, I got myself in a pinch. I am at a tradeshow with a dead media player for our booth screen, fortunately I have a RasPi with me but an empty SD card... no keyboard or mouse though. what image / distro would be best to drop on the SD card so that I can just ssh into the RasPi and start an endlessly looping video playback?
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[18:22] <gbaman> Vaizki: do you have ethernet?
[18:22] <gbaman> or wanting ssh over wifi?
[18:23] <Vaizki> yea I can run dhcpd on y laptop to set the raspi up
[18:23] <gbaman> ok
[18:23] <gbaman> makes it a little easier
[18:23] <Vaizki> no i have wired ethernet
[18:23] <gbaman> and you have internet access?
[18:23] <Vaizki> umm here in the hotel yes
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[18:25] <gbaman> http://www.timschwartz.org/raspberry-pi-video-looper/ ?
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[18:25] <gbaman> hmm
[18:26] <gbaman> or even better
[18:26] <gbaman> Vaizki: http://stevenhickson.blogspot.co.uk/2013/09/raspberry-pi-automatic-video-looper.html
[18:27] <Vaizki> hmm ok I might try that
[18:28] <gbaman> looks to be the simplest method
[18:28] <Vaizki> the internet here is so slow it will take me like 6 hours to download a raspbian image
[18:28] <Vaizki> which is why I thought Id ask instead of just try :)
[18:29] <Vaizki> does raspbian boot by default so that dhcp client run on wired ethernet, sshd is up and you can login + sudo?
[18:30] <gbaman> should, yes
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[18:30] <gbaman> do you already have a raspbian image?
[18:32] <gbaman> as if you do, no need to download the custom one
[18:32] <gbaman> can just apply the scripts
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[18:32] <Vaizki> no of course not
[18:32] <gbaman> ohh
[18:32] <gbaman> ok
[18:33] <gbaman> btw, is the trade show MWC?
[18:33] <Vaizki> otherwise I would just try it :)
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[18:35] <Vaizki> yea
[18:35] <Vaizki> you too? ;)
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[18:35] <gbaman> na, wish I was :)
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[18:36] <gbaman> get that image downloading :)
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[18:37] <gbaman> anyways, bbl, hope you get it working, if not pop back here, am sure someone will have another answer
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[18:40] <Vaizki> yea.. downloading.. 7 hours left...
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[18:58] <basti> how can is use the wiring pi schematic in python?
[18:58] <gordonDrogon> what schematic?
[18:58] <gordonDrogon> or do you mean functions?
[18:58] <basti> no, pinnumbering
[18:58] <gordonDrogon> you can use wiringPi from Python.
[18:59] <gordonDrogon> it's called wiringPython.
[18:59] <basti> ok, will google that. thanks
[18:59] <gordonDrogon> try https://github.com/wiringPi
[19:00] <gordonDrogon> although I don't seem to be able to connect to github right now..
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[19:01] <basti> i had problems an hour ago, too
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[19:12] <basti> another thing. i am playing around with some cheap logic analyzer and an ultrasonic module. i trigger pin 0 every 0.5s and get the same response on the echo pin. http://i.imgur.com/sqFE833.png why?
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[19:20] <basti> i added another pin just to let you see, that it measures somehting else: http://i.imgur.com/u5Y3fWV.png
[19:20] <basti> it can measure something else ^^
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[19:25] <ShorTie> looks nifty basti
[19:25] <grrrrpi> anyone has any experience with c++/c audio libraries on the pi?
[19:25] <gordonDrogon> grrrrpi, just looking at the SDL stuff myself ...
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[19:27] <grrrrpi> ive been having trouble getting audio output to i2s with anything so far
[19:28] <basti> ShorTie, are you trying to say something?
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[19:59] <gordonDrogon> sorted out syntax colouring in my BASIC now. well sorted the strategy.
[20:00] <gordonDrogon> it even seems to work...
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[20:01] <ShorTie> sweet
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[21:05] <Megaf> Hi everyone
[21:05] <Megaf> How are you today?
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[21:07] <Megaf> Folks, I have a Model B, 256 MB
[21:07] <Megaf> How well you think XFCE will run on it?
[21:08] <Megaf> I's installing it right now on Raspbian
[21:08] <shiftplusone> it runs about as well as lxde
[21:08] <shiftplusone> uses a bit more RAM, IIRC
[21:08] <sney> should be okay, nothing X is super fast
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[21:11] <Megaf> Ok, I just installed it, (task-xfce-desktop)
[21:11] <Megaf> on Debian I will choose it on LightDM or GDM
[21:11] <Megaf> how do I do here?
[21:13] <sney> you can install lightdm too if you want. it will also start/log in automatically for a certain user iirc, as long as it's the default or only wm installed
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[21:14] <Megaf> Cool, it has lightdm already
[21:16] <sney> ah, task-xfce-desktop depends on lightdm
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[21:18] <lorenzo> hi! is this a correct cable for hdmi <> hdmi ?
[21:18] <lorenzo> title is saying male
[21:18] <lorenzo> http://www.ebay.it/itm/Adaptador-Para-Cable-1m-HDMI-Dorado-x2-De-19-Pines-Conector-Tipo-Macho-1080p-/390780902319?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_186&hash=item5afc5b5baf
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[21:20] <shiftplusone> looks fine to me
[21:20] <sney> yep that's a hdmi cable
[21:22] <lorenzo> ok ^^
[21:22] <lorenzo> thx
[21:24] <lorenzo> is there a known brand for reliable power supplies? I've been using a linear lab power supply but it weighs like 8 kilos
[21:24] <lorenzo> and I need something for a smaller installation :)
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[21:32] <lorenzo> I've read the Nokia AC-10X works fine, but I can't find the equivalent with italian plug
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[21:35] <rikkib> I use KCS NLAA120050W 1S supplies but we have funny three pin plugs here in NZ
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[21:44] <ppq> lorenzo: the samsung chargers are quite good. eg. http://www.amazon.it/dp/B009KUGFBO/
[21:44] <ppq> i'm sure you will find a cheaper one somewhere (~5€)
[21:44] <ppq> just make sure it's not fake
[21:45] <ppq> this one is for a galaxy note 2 so it has max. 2A
[21:45] <ppq> that's probably more than you need
[21:46] <lorenzo> ppq, thanks
[21:46] <lorenzo> looks like the italian/euro version of the nokia one is s/X/E
[21:46] <lorenzo> http://www.ebay.it/itm/180850741038?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649
[21:47] <lorenzo> this one, delivers 1.2A .. I hope it's enough for a raspberry py + keyboard/mouse + hdmi -> vga converter
[21:47] <ppq> "Salida de 5V / 1200mAh"
[21:47] <ppq> mAh? does it have a battery? :D
[21:48] <lorenzo> :D
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[21:56] <taza> lorenzo: Yo
[21:56] <taza> Where are you?
[21:57] <taza> Italy?
[21:57] <taza> Ah, solved already
[21:58] <lorenzo> yes
[21:58] <taza> Yeah, I usually pick Samsung or Nokia, but I know some more exotic European brands
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[22:01] <lorenzo> measurement time
[22:01] <lorenzo> ethernet + logitech usb mouse + keyboard
[22:01] <lorenzo> 417.7mA
[22:01] <lorenzo> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/76740016/imgs/corrente.jpg
[22:01] <shiftplusone> sounds right
[22:02] <lorenzo> stress -c 1 -i 2 from terminal
[22:02] <lorenzo> bumps up to 498 mA but no more
[22:02] <shiftplusone> (which is why it ticks me off a little when people say the pi consumes at least 700mA without any usb devices attached)
[22:03] <lorenzo> running some I/O operations too, fully loaded doesn't go above 500 mA
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[22:03] <shiftplusone> try loading the GPU as well
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[22:03] <lorenzo> I have no video available :(
[22:03] <shiftplusone> play a movie with omxplayer or something
[22:04] <shiftplusone> shouldn't matter
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[22:05] <lorenzo> shiftplusone, if I can get it to install ..
[22:05] <lorenzo> it's not in raspbian repos
[22:06] <shiftplusone> omxplayer? it should be in the raspberrypi.org repo
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[22:06] <shiftplusone> omxplayer - Command line media player for Raspberry Pi
[22:06] <lorenzo> ok, installed
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[22:08] <lorenzo> getting cifs-utils too, my movies are on a samba machine
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[22:10] <lorenzo> shiftplusone,
[22:10] <lorenzo> root@sartre:/media# omxplayer /media/192-168-3-22/raid/Film/Filth\ \(2013\)\ \[1080p\]/Filth.2013.1080p.BluRay.x264.YIFY.mp4
[22:10] <lorenzo> Video codec omx-h264 width 1920 height 816 profile 100 fps 24.000000
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[22:10] <lorenzo> 457 mA
[22:10] <slymatt> Hello guys can anyone tell me how to install QT im so confused =P
[22:10] <shiftplusone> ah, nice
[22:10] <Cy-Gor> how easy do you guys think it would be to replicate something like this with the pi? http://www.amazon.com/EasyAcc%C2%AE-Wireless-External-Portable-Smartphone/dp/B00CSFCYFY/ref=cm_cd_ql_qh_dp_t
[22:10] <lorenzo> shiftplusone, let's load the cpu while it plays
[22:11] <lorenzo> 520 mA
[22:11] <felisfcatus> Cy-Gor: depends on how intuitive you want it to be
[22:12] <lorenzo> cpu temperature is 46.4 °C
[22:12] <Cy-Gor> i mostly want to use it as a way to dump photos from an SD card to two hard drives
[22:12] <Cy-Gor> for travel
[22:12] <slymatt> shiftplusone: im struggling to get your suggestion of qt on i dont know where to start haa
[22:12] <lorenzo> really where is the need for 1.2A? this thing won't exceed 600mA worst case :P
[22:13] <Cy-Gor> i basically want to wifi connect with a tablet into an interface to initiate tranfer from SD card to two hard drives
[22:13] <Cy-Gor> verify that the copy was clean and say its done
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[22:13] <Cy-Gor> i suppose it doesnt need to be wifi but that would make it easy if i can just set up some SMB shares and use off the shelf apps to manage it
[22:14] <felisfcatus> Cy-Gor: sounds simple enough to me. I'm not a fan of gui so I'll probably jsut be using ssh/rsync
[22:14] <Cy-Gor> yeah, i would be accessing it via a tablet so an easy gui would be nice
[22:14] <shiftplusone> slymatt, what's the problem? I found they have excellent documentation.
[22:14] <Cy-Gor> i dont need a ton of functionality in the field
[22:15] <Cy-Gor> just "start copy"
[22:15] <slymatt> shiftplusone: not a clue how to download it to the pi =P
[22:16] <shiftplusone> slymatt, just a matter of installing the relevant qt dev package, just a sec.
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[22:17] <shiftplusone> this should probably do it... apt-get install qt-sdk
[22:17] <felisfcatus> Cy-Gor: um, I dont know much gui software that does that though. Owncould perhaps?
[22:17] <felisfcatus> Cy-Gor: owncloud
[22:17] <shiftplusone> owncloud is sloooow on the pi
[22:17] <Cy-Gor> yeah, i have been seeing a few that are mentioned in that product on amazon
[22:17] <felisfcatus> uh oh, not good :p
[22:18] <Cy-Gor> basically i need a file manager that would touch SMB shares to manage it
[22:18] <Cy-Gor> though i suppose i could make it fully automated and just have it as a standalone
[22:18] <felisfcatus> Cy-Gor: hm, guess what. I think imma try to do what you're going to do :D
[22:18] <Cy-Gor> lol
[22:18] <Cy-Gor> nice
[22:19] <felisfcatus> Cy-Gor: oh, so you can access SMB on your tablet?
[22:19] <slymatt> i found owncloud quiet quick just ahs some glitches
[22:19] <Cy-Gor> i dont have the tablet yet but from the reviews i have read it seems to be a non issue
[22:19] <felisfcatus> :s
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[22:19] <Cy-Gor> i have till july so i am still in the initial planning
[22:20] <felisfcatus> well, with owncloud, you dont have to worry with installing any kind of software since you only need the browser
[22:20] <Cy-Gor> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=lysesoft.andsmb&hl=en
[22:20] <Cy-Gor> there seems to be several others
[22:21] <Cy-Gor> so basically turn the pi into a hotspot with a few SMB shares
[22:21] <felisfcatus> that app havent been updated for a year now
[22:21] <Cy-Gor> then use the phone or tablet to initiate the transfer
[22:21] <felisfcatus> i dont like smb, they're kinda iffy :/
[22:21] <Cy-Gor> i guess
[22:22] <Cy-Gor> what would you prefer
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[22:22] <Cy-Gor> hell i really dont care what it uses honestly
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[22:22] <felisfcatus> ftp or ssh works just fine in this case
[22:23] <slymatt> shiftplusone: is it this? http://qt-project.org/wiki/apt-get_Qt4_on_the_Raspberry_Pi
[22:23] <Cy-Gor> all i am really looking to do is offload my SD card on to a pair of hard drives so i have two copies of the data
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[22:23] <Cy-Gor> and hopefully bypass the phone or tablet in the process and just use the phone or tablet to start it
[22:23] <shiftplusone> slymatt, looks fine to me
[22:23] <slymatt> great ty =)
[22:24] <felisfcatus> Cy-Gor: wait, what. bypass the phone/tablet but using it to start
[22:25] <Cy-Gor> basically the phone would just be an interface
[22:25] <Cy-Gor> since all the data would be attached to the pi
[22:25] <Cy-Gor> i could use the pi stand alone but i would need a display and buttons and such
[22:26] <[Saint]> Is there some deep-seated fear of Teh Googlez that keeps you from using their service perfectly tuned for such purpose?
[22:26] <[Saint]> (genuinely curious)
[22:26] <felisfcatus> Cy-Gor: oh, myah, i think it's pretty plausible
[22:26] * [Saint] has absolutely forgotten what it was like to care about backing up photos
[22:26] <felisfcatus> Cy-Gor: but you dont have the raspi yet tight?
[22:26] <Cy-Gor> cause i was in here and this is quicker than getting the exact right google search
[22:26] <Cy-Gor> yeah i have two pis
[22:26] * felisfcatus as well
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[22:27] <Cy-Gor> i am going on a 2.5 week trip over seas
[22:27] <Cy-Gor> dont want to bring my laptop
[22:27] <Cy-Gor> but i also want to make sure i have two copies of the photos
[22:27] <Cy-Gor> so two hard drives
[22:27] <felisfcatus> do you have a supported wifi adapter as well?
[22:28] <felisfcatus> eh
[22:28] <Cy-Gor> i might, i got a wifi adaptor with my cubi board that might work
[22:28] <[Saint]> Cy-Gor: perhaps that was misparsed. I was suggesting that if you have a data connection, Google can automagically make a full backup for you as soon as any image touches the DCIM folder.
[22:28] <felisfcatus> but where would you plug the usb wifi then
[22:28] <Cy-Gor> i was going to use a hub
[22:28] <[Saint]> There's also several other apps that offer similar, thrid-party cloud based services.
[22:29] <Cy-Gor> dont want to use the cloud
[22:29] <felisfcatus> [Saint]: he;s goig overseas. internet charges is going to kill him
[22:29] <Cy-Gor> ^^^
[22:29] <[Saint]> relying on a raspberry pi for critical backup is going to kill him...
[22:29] <Cy-Gor> ...
[22:30] <felisfcatus> well, the problem could be the hd not getting enough power. and 2 hds... with a usb hub..
[22:30] <[Saint]> backup of arbitrary things? Sure. Anyhting important? Nope.
[22:30] <[Saint]> Nope nope nope.
[22:30] <slymatt> shiftplusone: what does the tool chain do?
[22:30] <Cy-Gor> the power thing i have already thought about
[22:30] <Cy-Gor> so i have some ideas to deal with it
[22:30] <shiftplusone> slymatt, it's the compiler (gcc)
[22:31] <felisfcatus> are you using a battery or a power socket?
[22:31] <Cy-Gor> either
[22:31] <Cy-Gor> likely just wall power though
[22:32] <Cy-Gor> though i figure i could use either http://www.amazon.com/dp/B008YRG5JQ/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pd_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=AZX7VQS01U7A&coliid=I19520XBZTGL2D
[22:32] <Cy-Gor> or http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00GTGETFG/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=AZX7VQS01U7A&coliid=I2I9W7QYW7E52Y
[22:32] <slymatt> shiftplusone: ahh so that i can compile the gui i create?
[22:32] <Cy-Gor> depending on my needs
[22:32] <felisfcatus> tbh, i trus my raspi more than some unknown brand
[22:32] <[Saint]> I trust the raspi. Sdcards, notsomuch.
[22:32] <felisfcatus> oh
[22:33] <felisfcatus> yah
[22:33] <shiftplusone> slymatt, to compile the whole application.
[22:33] <Cy-Gor> i use high quality SD cards
[22:33] <slymatt> shiftplusone: alright =)
[22:33] <Cy-Gor> and i was going to use WD reds for the hard drives
[22:33] <[Saint]> Cy-Gor: there's literally no such thing.
[22:33] <[Saint]> there's only "suck" and "not as suck">
[22:33] <felisfcatus> the sd connection on the rpi can be pretty wonky
[22:33] <Cy-Gor> maybe in the world of pi
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[22:33] <Cy-Gor> but my camera has had no trouble
[22:34] <[Saint]> your camera doesn't use it as a root filesystem.
[22:34] <[Saint]> ...I hope.
[22:35] <Cy-Gor> it does not, but like i said thats a pi problem
[22:35] <[Saint]> If you're going down this path, make sure to offload / onto external storage as well.
[22:35] <Cy-Gor> not a card problem
[22:35] <felisfcatus> Cy-Gor: i presume you're pretty good with ssh?
[22:35] <Cy-Gor> what do you think the hard drives are for
[22:35] <[Saint]> You don;t want to be in the middle of nowhere and have your sd image die on you.
[22:35] <felisfcatus> [Saint]: he's going to transfer it to the hd , not sd
[22:35] <Cy-Gor> yeah i dont care about the SD card for the OS on the pi
[22:36] <Cy-Gor> i am talking about a USB SD card reader
[22:36] <felisfcatus> though worst thing could happen is the raspi decides to kill the hd connected
[22:36] <Cy-Gor> true
[22:36] <[Saint]> You'll care about the filesystem on the pi if it falls over and you're not in a position to do anything about it.
[22:37] <Cy-Gor> i would have spare OS cards on hand
[22:37] <[Saint]> If you have external storage, use it for /. Definitely.
[22:37] <felisfcatus> well, he can always use multiple cards :D
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[22:38] <felisfcatus> Cy-Gor: I'll probably set up hostapd, then just use this to copy flies into the pi https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=nextapp.fx&hl=en
[22:39] <Cy-Gor> yeah that is what i was thinking
[22:39] <felisfcatus> it works on sftp, so you dont need to configure anything else
[22:39] * [Saint] wonders if the devices have USB Host.
[22:39] <Cy-Gor> cool
[22:39] <felisfcatus> ^
[22:39] <Cy-Gor> the tablet?
[22:39] <[Saint]> removing the pi and plugging in the HDD to <device> directly would be a lot less failure prone.
[22:39] <Cy-Gor> not sure if my camera has host, it might
[22:40] <felisfcatus> the tablet
[22:40] <[Saint]> ANy reasonably modern device worth buying should have USB host.
[22:40] <felisfcatus> the camera doesnt need to be a host
[22:40] <felisfcatus> actually
[22:40] <felisfcatus> um
[22:40] <felisfcatus> nvm
[22:41] <felisfcatus> how big is the sdcard?
[22:41] <Cy-Gor> 8-32 gigs
[22:42] <felisfcatus> how are you going to copy the pics again?
[22:42] <felisfcatus> camera > tablet > pi ?
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[22:43] <Cy-Gor> i am hoping to take the card out of the camera plug it into a USB card reader, then copy it from that directly to the attached hard drive
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[22:43] <felisfcatus> oh, and using the tablet as a front end?
[22:43] <Cy-Gor> right
[22:43] <Cy-Gor> or a phone
[22:44] <Cy-Gor> idealy ios or android
[22:44] <Cy-Gor> but if android only is easier then that is fine too
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[22:45] <felisfcatus> hm.. so many ways to do this...
[22:45] <felisfcatus> you sure you dont want to use ssh?
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[22:46] <felisfcatus> i'd just connect the hd and sd on boot, ssh to the pi to run some copying script and done
[22:46] <[Saint]> that would add yet another layer of possible failure to the mix.
[22:46] <[Saint]> this is very...bike shed-ish.
[22:46] <[Saint]> Overthought.
[22:47] <felisfcatus> that's the simplest way i can think of
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[22:47] <felisfcatus> alternatively, he could just put the sd card and hd on the tablet
[22:48] <felisfcatus> but that assumes the table supports sd/microsd and usb-otg
[22:48] <Cy-Gor> yeah, the USB OTG thing is another solution but it seems a bit wonky from what i can tell
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[22:48] <[Saint]> Much less so that a few of the above solutions.
[22:48] <felisfcatus> get a y cable and conenct to an external power source for the hd
[22:49] <[Saint]> Its been torture tested by Joe Citizen for about a decade.
[22:49] <Cy-Gor> USB OTG?
[22:49] <Cy-Gor> are you a dog?
[22:49] <Cy-Gor> cause that hasnt been a thing for that long
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[22:49] <felisfcatus> what am i missing?
[22:49] <Cy-Gor> nothing
[22:50] <felisfcatus> it;s 6am and im not getting the reference
[22:50] <Cy-Gor> dog years
[22:51] <[Saint]> Oh, geee - so sorry, so much difference between 8 and 10 years.
[22:51] <[Saint]> 0_o
[22:51] <Cy-Gor> closer to 5 but whatever
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[22:52] <[Saint]> ~2004
[22:54] <felisfcatus> Cy-Gor: so, have you decided yet?
[22:54] <Cy-Gor> on what?
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[22:55] <cumana> hello
[22:55] <felisfcatus> to use the pi or not to use the pi?
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[22:55] <felisfcatus> hi
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[22:55] <Cy-Gor> oh, i am up for the idea
[22:55] <Cy-Gor> i wouldnt need to buy anything extra really
[22:55] <Cy-Gor> i need to buy the hard drives
[22:56] <cumana> what happens when interrupt is interrupted by another one? does it branches to the new instance, or is it pending?
[22:56] <Cy-Gor> but i will be using them in another project after this
[22:56] <Cy-Gor> i think the new WD red 2.5 nas drives would be great for this
[22:56] <Cy-Gor> then i can use them in my nas when this project is done
[22:56] <felisfcatus> i'd go with the usb otg, but i have no experience with hd. could be wonky like you said
[22:57] <[Saint]> Only if the host can't keep up with power.
[22:57] <Cy-Gor> i will be using external power for the drives
[22:57] <felisfcatus> oh, shouldnt be a problem then ?
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[22:58] <Cy-Gor> yeah that is one thing i notices, you can fry your phone/tablet if you arent careful
[22:58] <Cy-Gor> noticed
[22:58] <Cy-Gor> this is one thing i found also: http://petapixel.com/2013/03/26/how-to-back-up-your-pictures-using-an-android-tablet-and-external-hard-drives/
[22:58] <felisfcatus> oh, that
[22:59] <Cy-Gor> but its still kinda wonky, cause it only backs up from the tablet to the external
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[22:59] <Cy-Gor> so i would need to copy to the tablet first
[22:59] <felisfcatus> the tabled doesnt have a sdcard slot?
[22:59] <Cy-Gor> i assume standard raspbian would be enough for this?
[23:00] <Cy-Gor> most dont have a full SD slot
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[23:00] <felisfcatus> you could use a microsd with an adapter
[23:00] <Cy-Gor> then i wouldnt get 90mbps for burst mode
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[23:00] <felisfcatus> even on a class 10 microsd?
[23:00] <slymatt> shiftplusone: what do i actually open im on the tool chain steps now, but i dont know what to open i presumed qt creator but i cant find it anywhere
[23:01] <slymatt> shiftplusone: nvm found it =P
[23:01] <[Saint]> Cy-Gor: using a pi for this *drastically* limits the throughput.
[23:01] <Cy-Gor> class 10 is not that fast
[23:01] <[Saint]> Everything runs on a single USB bus.
[23:01] <Cy-Gor> right but on my camera it makes a difference
[23:01] <[Saint]> Ah, yes. Indeed.
[23:01] <Cy-Gor> so yeah i dont really want to change to micro sd
[23:02] <felisfcatus> oh, is it that uhs thingy?
[23:02] <Cy-Gor> yeah
[23:02] <Cy-Gor> ultra 1
[23:02] <Cy-Gor> i have some that are 45 and some that are 90
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[23:02] <felisfcatus> you get 45MB/s on them?
[23:02] <Cy-Gor> generally
[23:02] <felisfcatus> woah
[23:02] <felisfcatus> holy
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[23:03] <Cy-Gor> the 90 gets about 1-2 more seconds of full burst before the buffer runs out
[23:03] <Cy-Gor> compared to the 45
[23:03] <Cy-Gor> at 8fps
[23:04] * felisfcatus likes fast sd cards, but doesnt really know what to do with them
[23:04] <Cy-Gor> burst mode is about it
[23:05] <felisfcatus> raspbian works fine, but i prefer arch since it boots in 10 seconds compared to 20-30
[23:05] <Cy-Gor> gotcha
[23:05] <Cy-Gor> http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Extreme-Class-Memory-SDSDXPA-032G-AFFP/dp/B007NDL56A/ref=pd_bxgy_pc_text_y
[23:06] <felisfcatus> lol furstration free packaging
[23:06] * [Saint] has the UHS II uSD version
[23:06] <[Saint]> Full size sd makes me laugh now.
[23:07] * felisfcatus has ... well.. neither
[23:07] <[Saint]> Especially when you take them apart. They're practically empty on the inside.
[23:07] <Cy-Gor> yeah
[23:07] <felisfcatus> myah, i prefer microsd due to their versatility
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[23:07] <[Saint]> CF is even worse.
[23:07] <[Saint]> "compact" heh.
[23:07] <Cy-Gor> CF is way faster though
[23:08] <Cy-Gor> you can get 300mb/s CF cards
[23:08] <sney> yeah because CF is just teeny PATA
[23:09] <felisfcatus> which makes them dirt usuful if you have a 10yo laptop with no hd
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[23:11] * [Saint] loves Russia's sense of humor in the closing ceremony
[23:11] <shiftplusone> slymatt, you don't have to use qt creator at all. Take a look at http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-4.8/gettingstartedqt.html for example
[23:11] <[Saint]> http://cdn0.sbnation.com/assets/4043729/ringcorrection.gif
[23:11] <[Saint]> felisfcatus: great for iPods, too.
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[23:12] <[Saint]> Rockbox+iPod+CF==very happy me.
[23:12] <felisfcatus> [Saint]: wait, what
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[23:12] <[Saint]> (though, nowadays I use an SSD)
[23:12] <Cy-Gor> what is a good USB hub that is reliable on the pi?
[23:13] <slymatt> shiftplusone: i want to use qt creator =) the only thing is i still havent managed to sort my screen res out so i cant see it properly as it overflows out of the screen =P
[23:13] <shiftplusone> [Saint], heh, had to look up what that was about since I didn't see the opening.
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[23:14] <[Saint]> shiftplusone: yeah, not many people seem to have been aware that the single closed Olympic ring wasn't intentional.
[23:14] <[Saint]> It just...broke. :)
[23:14] <[Saint]> 'cos, Russia, I guess.
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[23:17] <shiftplusone> eh, at least they tried. When we had the opening here in Australia, it was all quite 'meh'
[23:17] <[Saint]> Canade had the best one, I think.
[23:17] <[Saint]> In Vancouver, ...when was that? 2010? Sounds right.
[23:18] <[Saint]> When "the cauldron" failed.
[23:18] * [Saint] sees if he can dig up a video
[23:18] <felisfcatus> Cy-Gor: anytihng should work just finr i guess. it is usb after all. just don't expect much from chinese brands..
[23:18] <Cy-Gor> k
[23:19] <[Saint]> shiftplusone: I can't find a video of the failure (which isn;t terribly interesting), but I can a video of them "fixing" it.
[23:19] <[Saint]> https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=EYlCGQ628gE#t=2100
[23:19] <[Saint]> They did a good job making light of something pretty serious.
[23:19] <Cy-Gor> i know its not the same as a device but i know people have had some trouble with USB devices on the pi so i figured i would ask
[23:20] * [Saint] frowns slightly at felisfcatus
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[23:20] <felisfcatus> Cy-Gor: well, i still cant get my alfa awus036nhr working. there's that
[23:20] <felisfcatus> what D:
[23:21] <[Saint]> Nationality shouldn't be an indication of perceived quality.
[23:21] <felisfcatus> and why do i deserve a slight frown? cant you just frown properly? :/
[23:22] <shiftplusone> [Saint], aye
[23:22] <felisfcatus> well, i've been ordering from dx.com a lot lately..
[23:22] <[Saint]> Many fine products come from China, and many crap products come from the rest of the world.
[23:22] <shiftplusone> Though the thing with the toilets in Sochi is just odd. Who the hell thought that was a good idea.
[23:23] <[Saint]> There's way more than that. But Russia has done an AMAZING job with gag orders, legal threats, and scrubbing the internet retroactively.
[23:24] <[Saint]> There's large areas of Sochi that just weren't finished, so they disallowed anyone to get near it.
[23:25] <[Saint]> If we saw this level of "quality" in the "finished" areas, I can only imagine the rest...
[23:25] <Cy-Gor> did you guys see the wolf joke that jimmy kimmel played?
[23:25] <SpeedEvil> [Saint]: they have dealt quite well with the aftermath
[23:25] <[Saint]> That being said, they did a great job.
[23:25] <sney> shiftplusone: the thing with no partition between the stalls or the thing with a toilet bisected by drywall? the latter was a hoax
[23:25] <[Saint]> SpeedEvil: Oh, indeed.
[23:25] <SpeedEvil> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5I8Iqe3OfsY
[23:26] <shiftplusone> sney, the thing with a room of toilets with no walls at all, for example.
[23:26] <sney> okay
[23:26] <[Saint]> The only thing I wasn't too fond of was the media making a HUGE deal of them not being able to flush toilet paper in the Olympic Village.
[23:26] <[Saint]> ...these people apparently haven't been to...most of Asia.
[23:27] <[Saint]> ANd a large part of Europe, for that matter.
[23:27] <pksato> --
[23:27] <[Saint]> But. Nope. "I can't flush my poop rag, call of the Olympics. These barbarians!"
[23:27] <[Saint]> *off
[23:27] <shiftplusone> I was raised in Ukraine and I recall that whenever there was any large scale project, the people in charge would find ways to cut corners and take the money for themselves, so these things are not really a surprise.
[23:28] <shiftplusone> botch it as best as you can and keep the money for yourself sort of thing.
[23:28] <[Saint]> Its no secret that this particular geographical area is rife with corruption, indeed.
[23:28] <[Saint]> I'm kinda surprised nothing more eventful happened.
[23:29] <[Saint]> and by eventful, I guess I mean "tragic".
[23:29] <Cy-Gor> the numbers i heard have been 30Billion of the 50billion spend went rigth to corruption
[23:29] <shiftplusone> I don't think it's a problem in that area, I think the west is hell of a lot better at it.
[23:29] <sney> there was that silly business with people believing the satirical story about the guy responsible for the olympic ring that didn't open being found dead
[23:29] <[Saint]> ...
[23:30] <[Saint]> Ohhhhh, in some areas. I agree.
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[23:35] <[Saint]> I _think_ .ru got the record for most times the Olympic flame was extinguished
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[23:45] <slymatt> shiftplusone: whats the best thing to use to connect to the raspberry pi e.g view the display
[23:46] <slymatt> from my laptop
[23:46] <shiftplusone> for a single application or the full desktop?
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[23:46] <slymatt> shiftplusone: full desktop
[23:46] <shiftplusone> vnc
[23:47] <shiftplusone> x11vnc if you want to view what the pi is displaying or tightvnc if you want a 'virtual' display
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[23:48] <[Saint]> x11vnc...
[23:48] * [Saint] shudders
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[23:48] <[Saint]> 'sa whole bunch of nightmares there, folks.
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[23:57] <slymatt> shiftplusone: cheers got that working and can now see my display properly haha
[23:57] <shiftplusone> yay
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