#raspberrypi IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2014-03-12

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[1:06] <cjs226> just unboxed my first raspberrypi - I'm assuming raspbian is the most widely used OS for general purpose?
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[1:10] <viccuad> hi, does anyone if the bcm2708 random number generator included in the raspberry pi is used in the linux kernel provided by the raspberry pi foundation here: https://github.com/raspberrypi/linux/ ?
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[1:11] <viccuad> does anyone know*
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[1:14] <rikkib> Not I
[1:14] <Poison[BLX]> cjs226: Yes it is, and the easiest to hit the ground running with, I believe.
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[1:15] <cjs226> poison[blx]: thx!
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[1:15] <k-man> hi
[1:16] <Poison[BLX]> viccuad: CONFIG_HW_RANDOM_BCM2708=m <-- looks like it is.
[1:16] <viccuad> thanks Poison[BLX] ! could you point me the kconfig that contains that flag please?
[1:16] <k-man> whats it like getting wifi working on an rpi? can it be considered generally reliable? the reason I ask is that i've been using an olimex board and I've really struggled to get reliable wifi out of it
[1:16] <Poison[BLX]> that's a raspbian kernel, but I'd assume the generic kernel from the foundation's same default config.
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[1:17] <Poison[BLX]> k-man: I believe it mostly depends on stable power with the pi, like most things, and a decent usb-wifi adapter, but all mine are wired, so I'm a poor source of details ;)
[1:17] <viccuad> I come from raspbian's irc, it seems they use the foundation's kernel sources and configs
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[1:19] <Poison[BLX]> viccuad: then, assuming it really is using it like the config implies, yeah. I can't guarantee the driver's not pulling an XKCD (221), but I've not had anything act wonky like it wasn't getting a proper random source.
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[1:21] <k-man> Poison[BLX], yes, so i believe regarding the power supply
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[1:23] <Poison[BLX]> viccuad: actually... looking at it now, I've been running on software random. Didin't have the module loaded (bcm2708-rng)
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[1:24] <hrn> hi
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[1:24] <hrn> I'm just stuck with a problem installing raspbmc
[1:25] <hrn> when the setup starts it says after a short while:
[1:25] <hrn> Timeout waiting for hardware interrupt error
[1:25] <hrn> error -110 sending stop command, original cmd response 0x900, card status 0xf00
[1:25] <hrn> does anyone know about this problem and maybe can help me out
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[1:26] <viccuad> Poison[BLX]: do you recall how fast/slow is /dev/random on software, in the raspberry pi? :P like, say, generating a 4098 RSA gpg key?
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[1:27] <Poison[BLX]> viccuad: haven't really poked it much... toss me a command line and I'll test with and without that module loaded, and even pastebin the resulting timings ;)
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[1:28] <Werel> Heyas :)
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[1:33] <Werel> when I compile a cpp file using wiringpi, I know I add -lwiringPi at the end of my g++ string. When I'm compiling openCV cpp programs, I found the trick of using `pkg-config --cflags --libs opencv` at the end of my g++ string. If I writre a program using both of those libraries, can I just append one after the other, like for example: `pkg-config --cflags --libs opencv` -lwiringPi ?
[1:33] <Poison[BLX]> Werel: yeah, that should work when using both
[1:34] <Werel> Poison[BLX], thanks :) I'll be able to try it tomorrrow, I don't have my Pi tonight, which is why I couldn't just test for myself. :P
[1:34] <Werel> also, does order matter, which one comes first? I read something I thought mentioned that in g++ documentation on the web...
[1:35] <[Saint]> it *may*, yes.
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[1:35] <Poison[BLX]> I believe it should only matter if there are conflicting symbols exposed by the things you're linking, but it's been a while since I've run into the fun, obscure, issues that leads to :P
[1:36] <Werel> okay. :) I'm not doing anything wierd-complicated... that I know of :P Thanks again!
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[1:37] <Poison[BLX]> and in that instance, I *think* it works like most things gcc suite command line and whatever shows up last overrides everything before, but that you'll definitely want to research rather than trusting me on ;)
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[1:38] <[Saint]> Note to self: Distrust Poison[BLX].
[1:38] <[Saint]> Got it. ;)
[1:39] <Werel> hahaha, I'll find out on execution, but I don't think things would overlap, from looking, opencv seems to have many of it's own... stuff.. uniquely named with cv.
[1:39] * Poison[BLX] nods.
[1:40] <Poison[BLX]> Good plan, [Saint] ... so few learn that in time to survive.
[1:40] <viccuad> Poison[BLX]: here's some shell code for obtaining 32 bytes of random data from /dev/random
[1:40] <viccuad> time dd if=/dev/random bs=32 count=1
[1:41] <viccuad> I'm afraid is not going to be so much difference, you can always stroke the keyboard to make more interruptions and add entropy to the pool
[1:42] <viccuad> maybe in some booting raspi server, waiting for a gpg key to finish generating, without input from a keyboard, it could be hours
[1:42] <viccuad> but for desktop, I would bet it will be pretty fast
[1:43] <[Saint]> Man. Streaming video "pirates" are spoiled for choice these days...It makes me want to go on an "Back in my day!" or an "I remember when..." rant.
[1:46] <[Saint]> I guess that's a side effect of better data rates and more and more ISPs removing caps.
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[1:49] <Poison[BLX]> viccuad: heh, I'm connected via ssh at the moment... so no keyboard technically. One block took about 0.018 seconds with and without the module, so... after spamming a few random commands to get some network traffic and such for entropy
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[1:49] <Poison[BLX]> without module: http://bpaste.net/show/187789/
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[1:50] <Poison[BLX]> command is: time dd if=/dev/random of=/tmp/a/1 bs=32 count=5 2>&1 |wgetpaste
[1:50] <Poison[BLX]> and /tmp/a/ is a tmpfs mount
[1:50] <viccuad> mmmmm
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[1:51] <viccuad> maybe the pool is already full, and we would need to get a lot of data from it, to measure how much time it takes to refill it
[1:51] <viccuad> thx Poison[BLX]
[1:51] <Poison[BLX]> well, the second read was being incredibly slow, hence that real-time delay.
[1:52] <Poison[BLX]> that was with 5 blocks :)
[1:52] <Poison[BLX]> testing again with the module in a moment.
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[1:55] <Werel> night all!
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[1:58] <Poison[BLX]> only things on that pi are network, a couple rarely used (and never externally changed) GPIOs (relays), sshd, and monkeyd webserver that's not world accessible, so it's not a high traffic system for anything, very low load.
[1:58] <Poison[BLX]> gah, and even less entropy that time.
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[1:58] <Poison[BLX]> http://bpaste.net/show/187796/
[1:58] <Poison[BLX]> I've exhausted the poor lil guy.
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[1:59] <viccuad> Poison[BLX]: that was with the module loaded? isn't it even slower?
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[1:59] <viccuad> that's weird
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[2:31] <Mr_Sheesh> Question, I'm thinking of using my RPi as a sort of Linux basic machine, what would the smallest display you'd think would work for that? (Might use a desktop monitor but I would love to have it tablet-ish)
[2:32] <[Saint]> Depends what you're willing to spend.
[2:32] <[Saint]> You could go down to about 1.1" @ 320x320
[2:33] <[Saint]> Tiny little 3~7" LCD backup displays w/ composite in are cheap as chips.
[2:33] <[Saint]> Google around for "LCD reversing display" or similar.
[2:34] <Mr_Sheesh> What's readable tho? I'd like text, so I am hoping for 640x480 or 800x600, I do embedded stuff but usually use huge displays, this one's just different :) 5-6" display large enough to do the job?
[2:35] <[Saint]> Depends on a lot of variables that are unknown to me.
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[2:35] <[Saint]> Like distance from the unit. Color. Etc.
[2:36] <Mr_Sheesh> Hmmm, actually I think I can just measure the old IBM PC110's display (old 486 subcompact 486slc33 mini laptop) as it's 640x480, I know those'll do me as I've used them; Might be able to go smaller as I do have good close-in vision
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[2:39] <SirLagz> Mr_Sheesh: 7" @ 800x480 will be about the smallest you'll want to go if you want to use it as a desktop
[2:39] <Mr_Sheesh> Sorta palmtopish, but yeah
[2:40] <SirLagz> a higher resolution would be preferred. You'll find that some windows won't fit by default into a 480px high screen
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[2:41] <[Saint]> Ah...see, I was thinking cli only.
[2:41] <Mr_Sheesh> PC110 has a 4.7" display, I've done text editing on those at 25x80 with a DOS app (QEdit), but want to brush up on Linux more. I do CLI a lot usually
[2:42] <SirLagz> Mr_Sheesh: if it's CLI your after then pretty much any cheap display with doo
[2:42] <Mr_Sheesh> I could handle mono, color's nice but -shrug-
[2:43] <SirLagz> I don't think I've seen any mono displays in years lol
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[2:45] <Mr_Sheesh> I have, I still use HP 200LX's and Palm IIIxe's etc. but mostly use the IIIc for dolists :P
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[2:45] <Mr_Sheesh> (Yes, I'm a dos-a-saurus, heck, a cp/m-a-saurus too. I'll live :))
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[3:18] <Jeebiss> performance wise, on a basic level, which is better on the pi, Java or Python?
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[3:25] <lorenzo> Jeebiss, java sucks anytime, anywhere
[3:25] <lorenzo> so go for python
[3:26] <hybr1d8> Depends on purpose
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[3:26] <hybr1d8> but on the pi at least the jvm is not overly optimised
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[3:44] <nerdboy> quiet tonight...
[3:46] <[Saint]> Well...it was.
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[3:46] <swiss> java almost always sucks, but has a few places it's optimized
[3:46] <swiss> such as mainframes
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[3:50] <hybr1d8> java almost always sucks for end-user applications (mainly due to gui toolkit issues) but is very good for backend/server applications
[3:50] <hybr1d8> and even for end-user stuff it has improved a lot in the last 10 years
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[4:01] <SirLagz> Pity I need to use Java every damn day
[4:01] <SirLagz> a java application i should say
[4:01] <trohrt> What application?
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[4:02] <hybr1d8> if you doing anything to do with money or communications java is probably involved
[4:02] <trohrt> Ah
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[4:03] <Jeebiss> is there an easy way to see the current capacity left on my pi's sd card?
[4:03] <Jeebiss> from the pi itself that is
[4:03] <hybr1d8> (disclaimer: I work for Sun/Oracle and we created/own java ;) )
[4:03] <trohrt> df -h
[4:03] <hybr1d8> df -h
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[4:03] <hybr1d8> *snap*
[4:03] <trohrt> xD
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[4:04] <Jeebiss> holy crap, somehow its filled up..
[4:04] <Jeebiss> i think i topped it off with java lol
[4:04] <trohrt> Jeebiss: What do you use your pi for?
[4:04] <[Saint]> "bit hoarding"
[4:04] <[Saint]> ...duh.
[4:04] <Jeebiss> Not much, appealing my impulses to learn random eldctronic things
[4:04] <trohrt> I don't really use my desktop environment or java or any of the wolfram crap so i got rid of it all
[4:05] <Jeebiss> Right now I am working on making a web interface for a robot project
[4:05] <trohrt> Cool
[4:05] <Jeebiss> But apparently I maxed out my sd card...
[4:05] <[Saint]> this is why I use Arch, or a debian netinst when I do use debian.
[4:05] <trohrt> How big is it?
[4:05] <SirLagz> trohrt: CA Spectrum
[4:05] <[Saint]> The foundation images have so much that Joe Average will never use.
[4:05] <hybr1d8> If you want the absolute minimal install - have a look at rpi-buildroot
[4:06] <trohrt> I also agree
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[4:06] <trohrt> with hybr1d8 that is
[4:06] <Jeebiss> Anyone know how much space the NOOBs raspbian image takes up?
[4:06] <hybr1d8> I have a rpi running as a music player using only a couple of meg
[4:06] <[Saint]> Too much.
[4:06] <hybr1d8> http://elinux.org/RPi_Distributions#RPi-Buildroot
[4:07] <trohrt> I run a lighttpd web server and a pokemon showdown server off of my pi and use on my big screen with moc and omxplayer for media
[4:07] * [Saint] uses spindle occasionally
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[4:08] <SirLagz> My Pi's have been gathering dust :(
[4:09] <trohrt> SirLagz: I use mine daily :)
[4:09] <SirLagz> but with a recent network re-architecture at home, I may actually use my Pi for a low power always on desktop soon
[4:09] <SirLagz> before, I used to always have a desktop on so never used the Pi
[4:09] <SirLagz> but now that I don't always have a desktop on, the Pi could be useful
[4:09] <trohrt> A lot of people complain about the speed of the desktop on the pi
[4:10] <trohrt> But if you use a more lightweight wm/de than lxde, I find it quite a bit more bearable
[4:10] <SirLagz> Yeah I'd probably be using something like fluxbox
[4:10] <trohrt> I use DWM with midori on my pi in my basement as a sort of browser kiosk
[4:11] <SirLagz> Gonna try and setup a wifi bridge with my other Pi too
[4:11] <SirLagz> never managed to get it going before but going to give it another crack :D
[4:11] <trohrt> fluxbox/openbox is bearable but i fell in love with dwm and that's what I use daily on all my pcs
[4:11] <SirLagz> dwm hey...not familiar with that
[4:11] <trohrt> go to suckless.org
[4:11] <[Saint]> I use a tiny Arch image on a pi to do nothing more than provide a VNC instance to get into the debian chroot running on my vastly more capable phone.
[4:11] <trohrt> Should find it there
[4:11] <trohrt> Ah I see
[4:12] <Jeebiss> sweeet, my old cellphone had a 8gb card
[4:12] <Jeebiss> that should solve the problems
[4:12] <trohrt> Well, I'm off to bed everyone. Night!
[4:12] <SirLagz> dwm looks interesting
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[4:12] <SirLagz> might have to try it out
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[4:13] <trohrt> SirLagz: It is very interesting.
[4:13] <trohrt> Lot's of cool patches that make it even better.
[4:13] <SirLagz> I'll see how much effort I want to put into it
[4:13] <SirLagz> apt-get fluxbox is very tempting haha
[4:13] <trohrt> My favorite thing about it is that it on average uses 1 mb ram
[4:14] <SirLagz> haha nice
[4:14] <trohrt> You can apt-get dwm too if you just want to try it out
[4:14] <SirLagz> oo
[4:14] <SirLagz> might give it a shot
[4:14] <trohrt> But if you want the best experience, i recommend compiling from source so you can edit to your needs :)
[4:14] <SirLagz> when i get a Pi running again haha
[4:14] <trohrt> haha
[4:15] <trohrt> Well, I'm really off to bed. Night!
[4:15] <SirLagz> haha night
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[4:43] <Jeebiss> when i do the apt-get update/upgrade process, is there a way to automagically say yes to everything
[4:43] <Jeebiss> so i can run it and go to bed
[4:43] <[Saint]> one sec.
[4:43] <[Saint]> "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get check && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade -y && sudo apt-get autoremove -y && sudo apt-get autoclean && exit"
[4:44] <Jeebiss> oh jesus, whats all that do?
[4:44] <[Saint]> slightly dangerous one-liner to "just damn well update everything, clean up, then finish"
[4:44] <Jeebiss> interesting
[4:44] <Jeebiss> dangerous in waht sense?
[4:45] <[Saint]> Dangerous insofar as it passes -y "yes to all", and sometimes some packages may want to pull in or remove a bunch of packages you may not want to add or remove.
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[4:45] <Jeebiss> Ah gotcha
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[4:45] <Jeebiss> Im updating an old version of raspbian, so Ill just let it go
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[4:46] <Jeebiss> i dont know enough to have opinions on what packages i may or may not need
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[4:48] <SirLagz> I didn't even know about apt-get checklol
[4:48] <SirLagz> though I do like apt-get moo
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[4:51] <Jeebiss> [Saint]: Whats the exit command do at the end?
[4:51] <[Saint]> exit.
[4:52] <Jeebiss> exit what
[4:52] <[Saint]> the shell.
[4:52] <Jeebiss> if i run this from cli, do i need that?
[4:53] <[Saint]> If you want to exit the shell afterwards, then yes. If not, then no.
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[5:04] <Jeebiss> Alright, looks like its cooking away
[5:04] <Jeebiss> Thanks [Saint] for the command!
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[7:04] <Mothership> hello raspberians
[7:06] <pjhartz64> Hi, Mothership
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[7:11] <Mothership> has anyone here had any experience with mongodb on wheezy?
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[7:22] <nerdboy> updates to the meta-raspberrypi layer (like a default rpi user with sudo support) and a separate desktop layer to support other BSPs
[7:22] <nerdboy> https://github.com/sarnold/meta-alt-desktop-extras
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[7:47] <shiftplusone> Taylor, I would rule out the power supply being the problem for now then.
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[11:20] <chocoporter> I was setting up my raspberry pi (using default raspbian installation) and wanted to give awesome a try. I used apt-get to install awesome. I was doing this remotely, through VNC. DUring the install, my VNC connection was lost, and I can't' connect again. Does installing awesome-wm make any immediately effective changes that would kick me from my vnc session?
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[11:24] <shiftplusone> I wouldn't expect that to happen, but I don't know, chocoporter
[11:24] <[Saint]> it makes some sense, in a way.
[11:25] <[Saint]> the window manager changing, assumedly without vnc being aware, is probably a pretty big deal.
[11:25] <chocoporter> the pi is no longer online and I'm a few thousand miles away, I'm not sure if it's stuck at an error or something (though the IP is no longer pinging for me), or if it turned itself off
[11:25] <shiftplusone> just installing a wm wouldn't make it replace the currently running one or anything, and even if it did, it shouldn't kick the vnc connection.
[11:25] <chocoporter> right
[11:25] <chocoporter> Hrm...
[11:25] <lorenzo> maybe some I/O fail
[11:25] <lorenzo> during the disk write
[11:26] <shiftplusone> chocoporter, has the pi had a high network load with its current power supply before?
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[11:27] <chocoporter> shiftplusone: this is my first time with pi, the person I sent it to just unboxed it (but she went to sleep so I cant ask her rto check on it for another 12 hours). This is the first 'large' thing I've downloaded with it though
[11:29] <shiftplusone> then I think the WM had nothing to do with it and you have a bad power supply.
[11:29] <shiftplusone> not that you can diagnose that without being there with a multimeter.
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[11:30] <chocoporter> Hrm.
[11:30] <chocoporter> Alright, thanks.
[11:30] <chocoporter> I'll have to wait for her to wake up I think and ask her to check if it's on or what.
[11:31] <shiftplusone> If I am right, it should still be on
[11:31] <shiftplusone> but it may be hung or just inaccessible from the network.
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[11:32] <chocoporter> Right. I was able to check by TeamViewer if the Pi was connected to the wireless and didn't see it on the table of connected clients anymore
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[11:38] <pjhartz64> when using the USB-Port of any device for power supply i usually do not get problems freezing the pi up for reasons of power supply, but i have that problem when i try to use a power supply from cellphone.
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[11:39] <chocoporter> This is just a standard power supply that came bundled with the pi from Canakit, plugged right into the wall
[11:40] <pjhartz64> it should deliver enough power for keyboard and mouse, but u said you also have wifi running on the pi. in this case my pi would do a bootloop, not fully starting at all
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[11:41] <pjhartz64> so i use an usb cable on a usb device for power supply, it somehow seems more stable to me
[11:41] * ShorTie agrees with [Saint]
[11:42] <chocoporter> there's no keyboard and mouse, just a wifi usb adapter
[11:42] <ShorTie> you totally change the window manager, i would think everything would need to be setup again
[11:42] <shiftplusone> VNC doesn't care about the WM
[11:42] <chocoporter> Well, wait
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[11:42] <chocoporter> just installing awesome-wm itself shouldn't change it, should it?
[11:42] <shiftplusone> it should not.
[11:42] <chocoporter> That woudl just install the packages necessary
[11:43] <chocoporter> I didn't load awesome-wm. I just installed with apt-get
[11:43] <ShorTie> it uses a total different library
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[11:43] <ShorTie> so nothing is the same i would think
[11:43] <shiftplusone> the most it would do might be to change the default session, which would not affect the current one.
[11:45] <chocoporter> I assumed that using apt-get to download the awesome-wm package would just copy the files to my pi but wouldn't load or it change any system settings
[11:45] <ShorTie> No
[11:46] <shiftplusone> debian does like to configure things for you when you install them.
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[11:46] <ShorTie> once apt-get gets the the install faze, it wipes up all old junk
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[11:47] <ShorTie> so when switching from 1 library to another, i would think it would kill everything
[11:47] <shiftplusone> what library? what are you talking about? =S
[11:47] <ShorTie> it has too, lol.
[11:47] <shiftplusone> you can have multiple WMs installed just fine.
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[11:47] <ShorTie> http://awesome.naquadah.org/
[11:47] <ShorTie> First window manager using asynchronous XCB library instead of the old synchronous Xlib: make awesome less subject to latency than many window managers;
[11:48] <chocoporter> How do people have multiple WMs installed then?
[11:48] <shiftplusone> ShorTie, that would only be relevant (well, it still wouldn't, but to simplify thing, let's say it would), if debian decided to change your currently running WM (it wouldn't)
[11:48] <pjhartz64> they just apt-get them :)
[11:49] <chocoporter> pjhartz64: every time they want to switch?
[11:49] <pjhartz64> no for switching there are display managers like xdm for example. it provides a login-screen where you can choose your wm for the session.
[11:50] <chocoporter> Right? So in this case, simply apt-get'ing awesome without touching anything else shouldn't cause my session to attempt to switch to awesome
[11:50] <chocoporter> Or so I thought
[11:51] <pjhartz64> it should not have any effect on your current session
[11:51] <shiftplusone> ShorTie, Please don't take it that way.
[11:51] <chocoporter> I'm just worried that apt-getting awesomewm has messed things up beyond a level I'm capable of going back to whatever the rasbian default was
[11:52] <chocoporter> In which case it would be way faster for me to just use NOOBs to do fresh reinstall
[11:52] <shiftplusone> chocoporter, I am certain that awesomewm is a red herring here.
[11:52] <chocoporter> okay
[11:52] <pjhartz64> when apt-getting a window manager it does not try to start itself
[11:53] <shiftplusone> It's quite common for the pi to hang when apt-getting stuff when the power supply isn't particularly good or the cable has a high resistance.
[11:53] <chocoporter> Good (thanks for your patience btw. Pi is new enough, but my linux knowledge is.. dismal)
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[11:53] <shiftplusone> The lan chip is quite power hungry, particularly when there's a network load
[11:53] <[Saint]> As an aside this is a great lesson in "vnc is not a remote management system".
[11:53] <chocoporter> Yeah I'm starting to see that now
[11:54] <shiftplusone> so when you apt-get there's increased power usage, causing a voltage drop, which causes stability issues. I see that all the time.
[11:54] <chocoporter> shiftplusone: gotcha
[11:55] <shiftplusone> ShorTie, sorry then.
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[11:57] <ShorTie> the wire size of even the best micro usb cable are marginal at best for supply power to the rPi, bad design in reality to use it as power supply option
[11:57] <[Saint]> is there some weird mix of in/out-of-channel going on here?
[11:57] <pjhartz64> i got a model A... lucky coincidence they did not have a model B at the store when i bought my pi ... having less ram is painful , especially for compiling, but i have had no power issues so far.
[11:57] <[Saint]> or am I missing messages again.
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[11:58] <shiftplusone> [Saint], eh?
[11:59] <[Saint]> ShorTie: ...errr, that wiring gauge is more than adequate.
[11:59] <chocoporter> [Saint]: yeah seemed like there was a bit missing for me too lol between shiftplusone and ShorTie
[11:59] <[Saint]> shiftplusone: that ^
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[12:00] <[Saint]> seems like someone mixed up in/out-of-chan.
[12:00] <[Saint]> or we're leaking messages or something.
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[12:03] <chocoporter> If banter is tolerated, just wondering what you guys are all using your Pi's for?
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[12:04] <lorenzo> chocoporter, I have one that I use for monitoring a UPS and some temperature sensors, another one as a test machine / riscOS desktop
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[12:05] <chocoporter> neat
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[12:07] <[Saint]> The only one I have that is in constant use exists solely to poke a couple of relays to power down or restart my server.
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[12:08] <[Saint]> Poor thing waits for weeks on end wishing I'd send it a magic command that hardly ever comes.
[12:08] <chocoporter> lol
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[12:09] <chocoporter> Still sounds like it has a pretty important role to play though
[12:11] <chocoporter> Is there anything I can do to try and mitigate this issue about hanging on high network load?
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[12:13] <[Saint]> Its only really useful if the server falls over and I have power and network available, but that has happened once, so it proved useful.
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[12:16] <[Saint]> chocoporter: http://elinux.org/R-Pi_Troubleshooting#Crashes_occur_with_high_network_load
[12:18] <chocoporter> ty
[12:19] * ShorTie still thinkz, at the very lest it needs a reboot if not setup again, the API has even changed, but that is just my stupid opinion
[12:20] <swiss> [Saint]: relays are cheap
[12:20] <[Saint]> Guess that answers my earlier question.
[12:20] <chocoporter> ShorTie: Set up... what? Rasbian?
[12:21] <swiss> i've been debating making Remote power control power strips w/ the rpi
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[12:22] <chocoporter> or the VNC settings?
[12:22] <swiss> chocoporter: i have one pi as a rasplex server, the other is running retropie
[12:22] <chocoporter> swiss: How are you liking it as rasplex?
[12:22] <swiss> both are heavily used, and very useful
[12:22] <swiss> make sure you buy the video codecs for rasplex
[12:22] <ShorTie> to tell the truth, i've never used it so really do not know
[12:22] <swiss> then it just requires your plex server to be powerful enough to transcode
[12:23] <swiss> i already used plex heavily, so it was a nice addition
[12:24] <swiss> I also used one in my car as a live stats display
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[12:24] <swiss> for displaying my car's diagnostic info
[12:25] <chocoporter> That's awesome :o
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[12:26] <swiss> chocoporter: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6W6IrAlcg8 beware bad kpop
[12:27] <chocoporter> what kind of screen is that?
[12:27] <swiss> uhh
[12:27] <swiss> like $30 on amazon
[12:28] <swiss> http://www.amazon.com/Inch-Widescreen-Resolution-Automobile-Selecting/dp/B005I7UQ4K/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1394623676&sr=8-1&keywords=rearview+mirror+lcd
[12:28] <[Saint]> no-name backup LCDs FTW.
[12:28] <swiss> i'm prob gonna transition it into a HUD
[12:29] <swiss> my car (240sx) had a stock option for a HUD, so i'm gonna replace the stock hud with my own unit
[12:29] <[Saint]> project onto the windscreen.
[12:29] <swiss> not projecting, merely reflecting
[12:29] <swiss> gonna use a bright one of those led displays
[12:30] <swiss> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXs-Ek8gfAI is the stock hud
[12:30] <chocoporter> you were able to interface the pi with that rear view screen to display the info as you drove? :o
[12:30] <chocoporter> how well does a reflecting HUD like that work in day time though
[12:31] <[Saint]> composite input.
[12:31] <[Saint]> plug and go.
[12:31] <chocoporter> ah
[12:31] <swiss> [Saint] is right
[12:31] <swiss> and the reflecting hud.. works okay
[12:32] <swiss> i'm off to bed, ttyl
[12:32] <chocoporter> night!
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[12:38] <zaccanasta> hi guys, i'm having a problem with the pi and an hdmi touch screen
[12:39] <zaccanasta> resolution is setted to 994x738
[12:39] <zaccanasta> i can't switch to 1024x768
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[12:39] <zaccanasta> windows aren't shown properly at this strange resolution
[12:40] <zaccanasta> any idea?
[12:40] <shiftplusone> What have you tried?
[12:40] <zaccanasta> i tried tvservice -e "DMT 16"
[12:41] <zaccanasta> it switches to 1024x768 but the screen is black
[12:41] <shiftplusone> not too familiar with tvservice. Have you tried setting the right mode in config.txt and rebooting?
[12:42] <zaccanasta> no i haven't
[12:42] <zaccanasta> where is congig.txt?
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[12:42] <shiftplusone> is this a NOOBS install or not?
[12:43] <zaccanasta> pidora
[12:44] <shiftplusone> doesn't answer the question. pidora is an OS, NOOBS is an installation method
[12:44] <shiftplusone> did you write an image to the card or extract some files to it?
[12:45] <zaccanasta> no i intalled pidora on the card, no NOOBS
[12:45] <shiftplusone> then it's on the first partition
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[13:08] <pjhartz64> /join #dillo
[13:09] <shiftplusone> never
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[13:12] <chocoporter> Thanks for the help guys. I'm sure I'll be back. Stay gold!
[13:12] * chocoporter waves
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[13:30] <chris_99> anyone used Zigbee with Pis?
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[14:27] <dblessing> thanks for the help yesterday on the SD card issue. i went and bought a Sony SDHC 16GB Class 10 (also listed on the known working SD card list) and it worked great. I'm planning to edit the SD card wiki tonight with details on the PNY card that didn't work.
[14:27] <dblessing> It's very frustrating to have to wade through a list of SD cards and wonder if the one you pay for is going to work. Luckily they're relatively cheap these days
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[14:35] <viccuad> hi, how many blobs (non-opensource drivers) are present in the raspberrypi currently? boot+GPU? thanks!
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[15:12] <gordonDrogon> AIUI, just one in the GPU. (I'd consider the boot code part of the blob). All the ARM side of it is open source as far as i'm aware.
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[15:12] <gordonDrogon> however, also AIUI there now exists the means to make the blob-less, but someone has to write the GPU code to do that...
[15:13] <gordonDrogon> and once that happens the only blob left will be the boot ROM in the GPU
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[15:21] <DJSBX> good day everyone
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[15:21] <Taylor> Good day
[15:22] <DJSBX> sort of a random question, but has anybody ever gotten an Arduino LCD Keypad Shield to work with their pi?
[15:22] <DJSBX> http://www.dfrobot.com/wiki/index.php?title=Arduino_LCD_KeyPad_Shield_(SKU:_DFR0009) <-- one of those
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[15:24] <DJSBX> this is currently my setup http://tinyurl.com/mj3ezsk and the code I made to interface with the LCD is such https://github.com/DJSymBiotiX/RPiLiquidCrystal but it just won't work for me :(. Hoping somebody else has tried this :P
[15:24] <SirLagz> woo pfsense router is going now
[15:24] <Taylor> shiftplusone: so after replicating the hang, voltage over tp1/tp2 was ~4.92 vs ~4.94 when stable; no huge drop. I'm going to dive into the logs in a bit I guess
[15:25] <viccuad> gordonDrogon: thx!
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[16:00] <hrn> When I startup my RaspBMC, network connection often is not established
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[16:02] <hrn> when I replugin my Network cable most of the time its working then
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[16:29] <hrn> hmn, nobody any idea for me :(
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[16:31] <Taylor> http://paste.ee/r/lvQnc tons of this in syslog :/
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[16:35] <Taylor> https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Raspberry_Pi says to update everything, which i believe i am
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[16:40] <gordonDrogon> Taylor, easy way to stop that - turn syslog off ;-)
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[16:43] <SURKITZ> Hi All
[16:44] <SURKITZ> Anyone familiar with lsusb?
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[16:48] <ring0> SURKITZ, just ask your specific question
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[16:52] <gordonDrogon> SURKITZ, it's a command to LiSt the USB ...
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[16:55] <IT_Sean> SURKITZ: Yes, people are familiar with lsusb. Now, did you have an actual question, or are you just taking a survey?
[16:56] <DJSBX> I'd laugh if he was just taking a survey
[16:56] <sney> "ok, just checking"
[16:58] <heNNa-> he is more chatty in ##linux
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[17:02] <hrn> Hi,
[17:02] <hrn> does somebody know, why the network isn't established directly after boot, but only after replugging in the network cable
[17:03] <hrn> I am using RaspBMC
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[17:05] <hrn> or is there a raspbmc channel?
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[17:08] <SURKITZ> sorry back now
[17:08] <SURKITZ> my appologies
[17:09] <SURKITZ> Im just having trouble trying to get an NetGear WNDA3200 USB Wireless adapter
[17:09] <SURKITZ> Running Raspbian Wheezy
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[17:18] <sarrailhremi> Have you tried this doc https://docs.google.com/document/d/1TZUCrLX5VnlHDCmrMFW7jj5hiED7FkMchHHUmzaXwfs/edit ?
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[17:23] <SURKITZ> ill give that a whirl thanks
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[17:28] <Taylor> gordonDrogon: are those errors not fatal?
[17:29] <Taylor> at least after a given period of time
[17:29] <Taylor> This lead up to the hang
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[17:37] <gordonDrogon> Taylor, hi - sorry, was really teasing you there - that's what the ;-) means...
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[17:38] <gordonDrogon> Taylor, do you have smsc95xx.turbo_mode=N in /boot/cmdline.txt? If not, put it in & reboot and see if it makes a difference.
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[17:39] <Taylor> The errors being thrown don't persist after a reboot, something is causing them well into the boot
[17:39] <Taylor> isn't smsc95xx.turbo_mode=N just sort of masking an underlying issue?
[17:39] <gordonDrogon> however if running Gentoo I've no other suggestions - if Raspbian, I'd suggest making sure you're up to date with apt-get update/upgrade...
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[17:39] <Taylor> I'm running raspian, up to date too afaik
[17:39] <Taylor> raspbian
[17:40] <gordonDrogon> maybe it is masking it - I put in in all my Pi's early on. it seemed to help, but I've just noticed a Pi I have now doesn't have it.
[17:41] <Taylor> Mar 12 08:16:27 raspberrypi kernel: [39842.450057] INFO: task java:2715 blocked for more than 120 seconds.
[17:41] <Taylor> Could this be causing it?
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[17:42] <Taylor> There are a few of those errors thrown right around when other things start failing
[17:42] <Taylor> although the smsc95xx errors start well before that
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[17:42] <gordonDrogon> no idea. I don't run java.
[17:43] <Taylor> what exactly is smsc95xx
[17:43] <gordonDrogon> that's the Ethernet chip.
[17:43] <gordonDrogon> buried inside the USB hub chip.
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[17:44] <gordonDrogon> [ 2.331100] smsc95xx 1-1.1:1.0 eth0: register 'smsc95xx' at usb-bcm2708_usb-1.1, smsc95xx USB 2.0 Ethernet, b8:27:eb:f6:a1:c2
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[17:45] <Taylor> what's the format for entries into cmdline.txt
[17:45] <Taylor> just separated by a space?
[17:46] <Taylor> looks like it
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[17:51] <gordonDrogon> yes, one line separated by spaces.
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[17:57] <pentarex> hey guys.. Sorry for the stupid question but I want to begin with Embedded Development and I bought Raspberry PI. I dont have an external keyboard and monitor - only laptop and I was wondering If i connect the power supply in my USB port am I able to send program on C and see the results on the PI... for example the LED
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[17:58] <IT_Sean> pentarex: No, the raspi does not communicate over the micro-usb connector.
[17:59] <Encrypt> pentarex, You have to buy a console cable then.
[17:59] <Encrypt> pentarex, https://www.adafruit.com/products/954
[18:00] <gordonDrogon> pentarex, do be aware that while you can program "bare metal" on the Pi, it's also capable of running Linux, making it much easier to run code on. e.g. install Raspbian, ssh into it, then edit, compile and run directly on the Pi.
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[18:01] <pentarex> Encrypt: thank you for the heads up
[18:01] <Encrypt> ;)
[18:02] <pentarex> gordonDrogon: I will see what I can do. Or maybe I will buy another development board which can communicate over USB. Which one you recommend me?
[18:03] <Encrypt> pentarex, Why not use an Arduino then.?
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[18:04] <gordonDrogon> pentarex, I've no idea. what are you after? The Pi was really designed to run Linux to to be able to do development directly on rather than cross compiling, etc. same for many other small ARM deivces in the same catagory - beagle bone black, cubie, oodoo, etc.
[18:04] <gordonDrogon> it's not an Arduino.
[18:05] <pentarex> Encrypt: I am not sure .... sorry I am very new into this stuff. Web Development -> Microcontrollers its a big step for me and I bought the raspberry with recommendation from colleagues. If I buy Arduino am I able to program on pure c? I saw that they have some own syntax
[18:05] <gordonDrogon> Arduino can run pure C.
[18:05] <Encrypt> Yes :]
[18:05] <gordonDrogon> all my arduino code is pure C.
[18:05] <gordonDrogon> I don't use c++ which their own ecosystem encourages.
[18:06] <gordonDrogon> I do pure C on the Pi too - only I do it inside Linux running on the Pi.
[18:06] <pentarex> thank you very much guys
[18:06] <pentarex> I will go tomorrow and buy one arduino
[18:07] <Encrypt> pentarex, Did you buy a Raspberry Pi yet?
[18:07] <pentarex> yes I bought
[18:07] <Encrypt> Then you can also do awesome things on it \o/
[18:07] <Encrypt> Web / mail / files backup servers...
[18:07] <Encrypt> You didn't waste money ;)
[18:07] <pentarex> yeah yeah I will not refund it
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[18:08] <Encrypt> But to my mind, you're looking for an Arduino
[18:08] <Encrypt> Or any microcontroller will do the job :p
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[18:10] <klock> and once you have an arduino, you can just buy individual atmegas and use it as an avr
[18:10] <klock> fo cheap
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[18:11] <pentarex> ok thank you guys :)
[18:11] <pentarex> I am very excited about this I hope I will go quickly into it
[18:12] <pentarex> because I am tired of this web development stuff
[18:12] <Encrypt> I imagine :p
[18:12] <gordonDrogon> so you won't want to put a web server on a Pi then ;-)
[18:12] <klock> lol
[18:12] <Encrypt> :P
[18:12] <pentarex> :)
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[18:52] <TerranceWarrior> Hey guys.
[18:53] <TerranceWarrior> I just hooked up my raspberry pi but getting no reults from my vga monitor.
[18:53] <TerranceWarrior> i'm a rasberrypi virgin.
[18:53] <TerranceWarrior> results
[18:53] <TerranceWarrior> that s
[18:53] <TerranceWarrior> that is
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[18:54] <ShorTie> you got a imaged sdcard in it ??
[18:55] <ShorTie> is your vga adapter powered ??
[18:56] <pksato> TerranceWarrior: RPi need a HDMI or DVI monitor. NOT VGA.
[18:56] <TerranceWarrior> I have a HDMI to VGA Adapter Male to Female.
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[18:56] <pksato> TerranceWarrior: a cabe with HDMI on one end and VGA on other?
[18:56] <TerranceWarrior> yes
[18:57] <TerranceWarrior> everything is plugged in
[18:57] <ShorTie> if it is not powered, it most likely will not work
[18:57] <TerranceWarrior> monitor reads, check cable or connection.
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[18:57] <TerranceWarrior> it has a power connector too, that is plugged in.
[18:57] <TerranceWarrior> it cannot get more simpler than this though, no way to debug.
[18:57] <pksato> RPi dont have a VGA (old analog) signal.
[18:57] <TerranceWarrior> now he tells me.
[18:57] <pksato> need a active hdmi to vga converter box.
[18:58] <TerranceWarrior> i asked in the channel last time and said it was possible.
[18:58] <TerranceWarrior> thats what this is.
[18:58] <IT_Sean> yes, it's possible. With the right adapter.
[18:58] <TerranceWarrior> it's a box with cables on each end.
[18:58] <TerranceWarrior> well, as it stands now i have my hands tied behind my back.
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[18:58] <IT_Sean> Do you not have a screen with an HDMI or composite input?
[18:59] <pksato> need one like it http://www.lindy.co.uk/images/hdmi-to-vga-converter-p6787-3393_zoom.jpg
[18:59] <pksato> and not like this http://www.displayporttohdmicable.org/wp-content/gallery/hdmi-cable/hdmi-to-vga-gambar3.jpg
[18:59] <TerranceWarrior> nope, just dvi
[19:01] <pksato> or hdmi to dvi http://www.jdaudioonline.com.au/images/kimber/HDMI-DVI-D_cable.jpg
[19:01] <TerranceWarrior> i believe i asked in the channel with the online purchase on the website in this channel, about a month ago.
[19:01] <lorenzo> I've bought this to get a VGA out
[19:01] <lorenzo> http://www.ebay.it/itm/121112093484?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649
[19:01] <lorenzo> does 1920x1080 just fine :)
[19:01] <TerranceWarrior> pksato: yes, i have the first of the two.
[19:02] <TerranceWarrior> i ain't buying anymore shit.
[19:02] <TerranceWarrior> i have another vga , i'll try it. it's newer i think.
[19:02] <TerranceWarrior> will a dvi connector work in every way?
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[19:18] <Taylor> Is there any way to simulate a more accurate clock on the pi? I notice that after only a day or so of uptime my clock is offset by 30 or so minutes
[19:19] <Taylor> or can I force it to poll the ntp server more often or something
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[19:21] <FR^2> Tykling: ntp (network time protocol) is the key ;)
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[19:22] <FR^2> Tykling: e.g. "ntpdate" every day?
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[19:22] <FR^2> Tykling: Or run "ntpd", it should keep the time accurate
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[19:23] <gordonDrogon> ^ this
[19:23] <gordonDrogon> run ntpd.
[19:23] <gordonDrogon> I'm sure ntpd is installed by default anyway.
[19:23] <Taylor> Yes
[19:23] <gordonDrogon> at least it is on Raspbian.
[19:24] <Taylor> I can just throw that in a cron job and let it go and it should be good?
[19:24] <gordonDrogon> no.
[19:24] <gordonDrogon> if ntpd is installed & running, it "just works".
[19:24] <gordonDrogon> assuming internet connectivity.
[19:25] <gordonDrogon> even if you don't have internet connectivity, as long as it's had some internet connectivity it can cope with drift.
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[19:25] <Taylor> It has a solid connection
[19:25] <sney> or at least assuming occasional reachability to a ntp server that resolves to pool.ntp.org
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[19:25] <gordonDrogon> so run ntpq -c rl
[19:26] <gordonDrogon> if you get half a dozen lines then ntp is running on your Pi.
[19:26] <gordonDrogon> look for a stratum=xxx bit - xxx ought to be < 16 for a stable time service.
[19:26] <Taylor> http://paste.ee/p/wpEUp
[19:27] <gordonDrogon> wowzer. something is not right there.
[19:27] <gordonDrogon> ntpq is designed to be run as non-root.
[19:28] <Taylor> i'm running stock raspbian, no major modifications
[19:28] <gordonDrogon> me too, so it's most odd.
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[19:28] <Taylor> hmm
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[19:28] <gordonDrogon> I run dozens of other debian servers and I don't recall ever needing to be root to run ntpq.
[19:29] <gordonDrogon> gordon @ fuzepi: ls -l /usr/bin/ntpq
[19:29] <gordonDrogon> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 113852 May 18 2012 /usr/bin/ntpq
[19:29] <Taylor> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 113852 May 18 2012 /usr/bin/ntpq
[19:30] <Taylor> Oh..
[19:31] <gordonDrogon> oh?
[19:31] <Taylor> ntpq or ntpd?
[19:31] <gordonDrogon> ntpq is the ntp query program.
[19:31] <Taylor> and d?
[19:31] <gordonDrogon> no d.
[19:31] <Taylor> <14:23:21> <gordonDrogon> run ntpd.
[19:31] <gordonDrogon> d at the end of a program usually means daemon.
[19:31] <gordonDrogon> <gordonDrogon> so run ntpq -c rl
[19:32] <Taylor> You did correct yourself later on though, I missed that
[19:32] <Taylor> lol
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[19:32] <Taylor> http://paste.ee/p/ZPMRY
[19:32] <Taylor> That looks better
[19:32] <gordonDrogon> that wasn't a correction - I was saying you need to run ntpd to keep time. ntpq queries ntpd.
[19:32] <Taylor> oh
[19:32] <Taylor> My misunderstanding then
[19:32] <gordonDrogon> ye, stratum 3, so you'r running ntpd OK. So the time ought to not drift.
[19:33] <gordonDrogon> maybe the thing you're checking it against is drifting :)
[19:33] <gordonDrogon> but 30 minutes is huge.
[19:33] <Taylor> System.currentTimeMillis() running on the jvm
[19:34] <Taylor> maybe java is just confused
[19:34] <gordonDrogon> try the 'date' command in a shell..
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[19:34] <Taylor> But that doesn't explain this, when my pi reboots, logs from immediately prior to the reboot will be xx:50 while the logs immediately after the reboot will be xx:20, for instance
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[19:35] <gordonDrogon> well...
[19:35] <gordonDrogon> the Pi doesn't have a hardware clock - so it uses a "fake" driver.
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[19:35] <gordonDrogon> at reboot time, it tries to write the current time into a file, then at boot time it uses that file to set the current time.
[19:35] <gordonDrogon> it stays that way until ntpd starts, stabilises and set the correct time.
[19:36] <gordonDrogon> so at boot time it will be slow by the time it's not been running.
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[19:39] <kakeman> hello
[19:39] <gordonDrogon> evening.
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[19:41] <kakeman> first time set my ds2482-800 based 1wire master board to rpi and started owfs
[19:41] <kakeman> http://paste.dy.fi/xbL and something weird happens
[19:41] <kakeman> it's ds18s20 connected to one of channels
[19:41] <gordonDrogon> if only I knew about 1-wire.
[19:42] <kakeman> basically all data that is not static is somehow scrabled, corrupted something..
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[19:45] <FR^2> kakeman: I only ever used a ds94something (usb-to-1wire) adapter or the raspberry pi's GPIO pins directly...
[19:46] <FR^2> kakeman: There is one bit in the DS18S20's value that means "error", but of course it doesn't always show up especially if the 1-wire signal is polluted with emc
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[19:48] <Gadgetoid> Boom?
[19:48] <kakeman> should crc8 change?
[19:49] <kakeman> it stays same
[19:49] <gordonDrogon> Gadgetoid, Kaboom?
[19:50] <Gadgetoid> gordonDrogon: Ello ello ello!
[19:50] <Gadgetoid> gordonDrogon: my broadband seems to be stable now, perhaps... *crosses fingers*
[19:50] <gordonDrogon> Gadgetoid, you have AISP though - the UK's best...
[19:50] <Gadgetoid> gordonDrogon: Yeah, too bad about all the dinosaur-old copper wiring they have to push their services through
[19:50] <gordonDrogon> well there is that.
[19:51] <Gadgetoid> The openreach tech was an awesome guy though, into assembly programming old micros
[19:51] <gordonDrogon> hoping to get FttPoD here - in about 18 months time. maybe.
[19:51] <gordonDrogon> yea, you do get the odd clever one.
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[19:51] <Gadgetoid> He was methodical, thorough, and a veritable fountain of assembly programming knowledge
[19:52] <gordonDrogon> good for him.
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[19:52] <SURKITZ> go go gadget install wifi driver
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[19:53] <SURKITZ> if only life was as easy as that
[19:53] <Gadgetoid> SURKITZ: Ha!
[19:53] <SURKITZ> mate the driver install malarkey is driving me crackers hahaha
[19:53] <Gadgetoid> gordonDrogon: So, what's new? I seem to have missed a veritable bombshell of news on the OpenPandora side
[19:54] <gordonDrogon> have you? I've not looked at OP for ... well ever.
[19:54] <SURKITZ> usbutils sees the device
[19:54] <gordonDrogon> I now have working sound and half the BBC Micros Envelope command working in my BASIC.
[19:54] <Gadgetoid> Someone did a static recompilation of StarCraft, which runs natively
[19:55] <kakeman> do you know any channel that would be 1wire and owfs related?
[19:55] <SURKITZ> iwconfig shows me wifi related properties with adapter in and nothing displayed when adapter out
[19:55] <kakeman> etc.
[19:56] <SURKITZ> kakeman try netsplit.de they list a lot of channs dude
[19:57] <SURKITZ> whats the equilavent of Computer management for Raspbian (wheezy)...? <anyone>
[19:58] <kakeman> thanks dude
[19:58] <SURKITZ> i know we got like usbutils etc but is there anything else
[19:59] <SURKITZ> your welcome dude :)
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[20:00] <kakeman> this is very good
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[20:05] <SURKITZ> yeah man its a good site, ive used it for yrs ever since ye ole XDCC serv Era
[20:05] <SURKITZ> theres another 1 too ircspy.com
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[20:06] <SURKITZ> not sure if it stiil works though
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[20:29] <TerranceWarrior> Looks like my raspberrypi is DEAD on arrival
[20:29] <TerranceWarrior> I just tried composite, and *THAT* doesn't work.
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[20:30] <[Saint]> TerranceWarrior: ...not a NOOBS image, is it?
[20:30] <[Saint]> As that would explain that somewhat.
[20:31] <TerranceWarrior> do you *need* a usb drive hooked to it?
[20:31] <[Saint]> No.
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[20:31] <[Saint]> Feel like answering my query?
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[20:33] <TerranceWarrior> [Saint]: Take a thought why don't you and understand that there is no drive hooked to it.
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[20:35] <[Saint]> What on earth are you talking about.
[20:35] * gordonDrogon is confused too.
[20:35] <[Saint]> I understand frustration, but atacking someone trying to assist you really isn't cool man.
[20:35] <[Saint]> Kinda a dick move.
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[20:37] <gordonDrogon> TerranceWarrior, have you checked the green ACT LED when you power it up?
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[20:37] <Bozza> who is the guy who writes server plugins?
[20:37] <Bozza> for source
[20:37] <Bozza> source server plugins
[20:37] <Bozza> his name is really short
[20:38] <TerranceWarrior> gordonDrogon: it has been red and not green.
[20:38] <Bozza> CUT THE RED WIRE ::: ALWAYS CUT THE RED! !!!
[20:38] <Bozza> :)
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[20:39] <aaa801> Soon. http://paste.ubuntu.com/7081044/
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[20:42] <gordonDrogon> TerranceWarrior, it's not bi-colour. the red led is the power led the green one flashes on SD card access. if it's flashing green, then it's accessed the SD card. if it's flashing a regular pattern then it indicates a fault.
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[20:43] <gordonDrogon> TerranceWarrior, so expect a very brief flash of the green LED immediately at power up, then a brief pause, then more green.
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[20:43] <gordonDrogon> if you don't get that, then check the SD card.
[20:45] <TerranceWarrior> gordonDrogon: nope , goes straight to red at power up. and i didn't plug in a usb drive yet.
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[20:46] * lupinedk suspects a missing SD card
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[20:47] <IT_Sean> TerranceWarrior: is there an SD card in it, with an OS image written to it?
[20:48] <gordonDrogon> it will always go Red. that's the power LED. Next to it is the ACT LED. that's green.
[20:48] <gordonDrogon> Do you have an SD card in it?
[20:50] <jiuweigui> :)
[20:50] <TerranceWarrior> "and i didn't plug in a usb drive yet."
[20:51] <[Saint]> An sdcard is *not* a USB drive.
[20:51] <gordonDrogon> TerranceWarrior, Yes, you've said that.
[20:51] <TerranceWarrior> act led? so i'm supposed to do some Shakespeare?
[20:51] <[Saint]> So, don;t assume we knew that.
[20:51] <gordonDrogon> TerranceWarrior, YOU *MUST* boot off the SD card.
[20:51] <IT_Sean> The SD card is required
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[20:51] <IT_Sean> it's what the Pi boots off of
[20:51] <gordonDrogon> TerranceWarrior, you have no choice. Put in an SD card and stop going on about USB drive.
[20:51] <TerranceWarrior> what is that?
[20:51] <IT_Sean> you need an SD card with the OS written to it
[20:51] <[Saint]> ...how does this happen?
[20:52] <TerranceWarrior> you mean like microsd?
[20:52] <IT_Sean> A standard sized SD card
[20:52] <IT_Sean> not a MicroSD
[20:52] <gordonDrogon> TerranceWarrior, and LOOK at the Pi. It has LEDs marked PWR, ACT (for Activity), and others.
[20:52] <IT_Sean> You can use a MicroSD, with an SD adapter.
[20:52] <TerranceWarrior> so what your saying is i can't use a usb drive with it.
[20:53] <jiuweigui> you can you just can't boot from usb
[20:53] <IT_Sean> You can, but, it needs to BOOT off the SD card
[20:53] <IT_Sean> /boot HAS to be on the SD card
[20:53] * lupinedk is starting to suspect a troll
[20:53] <TerranceWarrior> oh
[20:53] <TerranceWarrior> *it needs* that.
[20:53] <TerranceWarrior> okay
[20:53] <IT_Sean> yes
[20:53] <lupinedk> maybe not :)
[20:53] <TerranceWarrior> mo' money mo' money 'mo money!
[20:54] <[Saint]> or, y'know...reading.
[20:54] <jiuweigui> overrated
[20:54] <[Saint]> could've helped somewhat.
[20:54] <IT_Sean> Had you read ANY of the documentation, you would have known that.
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[20:54] <TerranceWarrior> ok thanks, bye.
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[20:54] <Gadgetoid> ....
[20:55] <Gadgetoid> Did that just happen?
[20:55] <IT_Sean> yeeeesh
[20:55] <[Saint]> If that happened, there was a failure, somewhere.
[20:55] <[Saint]> I kinda refuse to believe that happened, but it did.
[20:55] <IT_Sean> I feel stupider for having witnessed that.
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[20:56] <[Saint]> I feel concerned. Someone, somewhere, dropped the ball.
[20:56] <IT_Sean> Yeah, and it landed on TerranceWarrior's head.
[20:57] <Gadgetoid> Probably wouldn't hurt to ship every Pi with a bullet-point quick-start
[20:58] <lupinedk> Iam wondering how he was able to join this channel and have missed that a SD card is needed
[20:58] <Gadgetoid> lupinedk: yeah I found that curious, too
[20:58] <lupinedk> thats the reason of the troll comment
[20:58] <IT_Sean> derpers gonna derp
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[21:09] <aaa801> phire: !
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[21:18] <phire> oh, it managed to join this time
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[21:29] <jerng> hi all! I want to create an sd card with minimal debian for raspberry. The debootstrapping worked fine so far. Now i want to copy the "kernel-related stuff" from a raspian image onto the SD card. Whats thing are required? I copied the file in /boot/ and /lib/modules/<kernel_version>/, but teh raspi does not boot. what is missing?
[21:29] <oldtopman> jerng: The binary blobs required to boot?
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[21:30] <jerng> well, I think all the kernel related stuff...
[21:31] <jerng> I rember I have done this a while ago, but can't remember / find the references...
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[21:35] <Fluubi> Hi
[21:35] <Fluubi> Is there a way to prevent having t olog directly to the pi
[21:36] <Fluubi> But still log when enabling ssh
[21:36] <Fluubi> Or even better log in on ssh which would do the same as logging directly to the pi
[21:37] <Fluubi> Because i want my pi to have a password but each time i have to connect a keyboard to it to log in
[21:37] <Fluubi> but i only communicate in ssh after
[21:37] <pksato> ?
[21:38] <Fluubi> i want to log only in ssh
[21:38] <Fluubi> not with a keyboard connected to the pi
[21:38] <pksato> no login prompt on console?
[21:39] <pksato> you not need a keyboard or a display.
[21:39] <Fluubi> yes but if someone comes and connect it a keyboard and display
[21:39] <Fluubi> there will be no password
[21:39] <pksato> set a password
[21:39] <Fluubi> so he will be able to take control of it
[21:40] <Fluubi> yes but if i set a password i have to type it when booting the pi so i eed to connect a keyboard right ?
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[21:40] <Nexuist> no
[21:40] <Nexuist> ssh runs even if you're not logged in
[21:40] <pksato> only if need to logon.
[21:40] <pksato> ssh start before login prompt.
[21:40] <Fluubi> let s try
[21:41] <pksato> execept if have some problem, that prevent sshd to start.
[21:43] <pksato> but, if want to disable console login. edit /etc/inittab and comment lines that have getty.
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[21:43] <pksato> 1:2345:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty1
[21:43] <pksato> to
[21:43] <pksato> #1:2345:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty1
[21:44] <pksato> or, even can disable any text on screen.
[21:45] <Fluubi> seems like
[21:45] <Fluubi> i need to log in on the pi first
[21:46] <Fluubi> otherwise it won't let me connect in ssh
[21:46] <pksato> some is wrong ...
[21:47] <pksato> if ssh is enabled on boot. dont need to logon on console.
[21:47] <pksato> even after logon, if ssh not running, need to start is manually.
[21:47] <Fluubi> i could ssh andd when i logged in it was ok
[21:48] <pksato> logout, and try ssh again.
[21:48] <pksato> some time. need to wait few minutes before can logon via ssh.
[21:49] <jerng> oldtopman: sorry, works now. copied the /boot/stuff to the wrong place... :/
[21:49] <pksato> or, take some time to show password prompt. (delay on dns resolution)
[21:49] <oldtopman> jerng: Just laugh and think of it as a lesson learned :)
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[21:54] <Thandruil> Question: What distro is best used for webservers?
[21:55] <Fluubi> I'll try with more patience
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[21:55] <pksato> Any. All. what you know to use.
[21:55] <Thandruil> Ah, okay.
[21:55] <Thandruil> Then I'll go for Debs. :3
[21:55] <rikkib> Raspbian and remove all the junk
[21:56] <Thandruil> Junk, like?
[21:56] <rikkib> gui stuff
[21:56] <rikkib> python
[21:56] <rikkib> scratch
[21:56] <rikkib> then install apache2
[21:56] <rikkib> mysql will already be on it
[21:57] <ppq> or just use this to install https://github.com/hifi/raspbian-ua-netinst
[21:57] <[Saint]> I would say "anything BUT raspbian"
[21:57] <ppq> it will be a minimal, X-less system
[21:57] <[Saint]> well...netinst is a special case.
[21:57] <[Saint]> The foundation images...nope.
[21:57] <rikkib> I think apache-php is installed as well
[21:57] <[Saint]> ~1.5GB of crap you'll never use.
[21:58] <pksato> Thandruil: what you want to host on RPi webserver?
[21:59] <Thandruil> Simple websites, maybe some PHP driven ones.
[21:59] <Thandruil> Also Databases are very important for me
[21:59] <Thandruil> removing gui shizzle now
[21:59] <Thandruil> x11-common
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[22:02] <Thandruil> this netinstaller
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[22:02] <Thandruil> would be usefull
[22:02] <Thandruil> does it have SSH to start with?
[22:02] <Fluubi> chmod a-w means everybody can alter it for a but why a-w ?
[22:02] <lupinedk> seems like it
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[22:03] <Thandruil> ah yes
[22:03] <Thandruil> openssh
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[22:09] <DJSBX> um... wouldnt a-w remove write access for everybody?
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[22:10] <DJSBX> chmod a+w means everybody can write to the file
[22:10] <DJSBX> Fluubi: ^
[22:10] <Thandruil> About that netinstaller, are there images like that without having to netinstall it, just flash the image?
[22:11] <Fluubi> Oooow ok
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[22:11] <Fluubi> thnks
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[22:16] <Hurst> is anyone familiar with hybserv2 settup with hybrid-ircd
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[22:18] <limitz-ARSNL> i would like to get someone's opinion who has worked with xbee
[22:19] <limitz-ARSNL> what's the easiest way to interface a programmable xbee zb smt chip to the Pi?
[22:19] <limitz-ARSNL> the through hole versions of the xbee series 2 zb do not support i2c or spi
[22:19] <limitz-ARSNL> only uart
[22:20] <limitz-ARSNL> only the programmable smt versions support spi/i2c
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[22:21] <mgottschlag> limitz-ARSNL: well, I don't know xbee, but uart sounds as difficult or easy as spi/i2c to me
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[22:22] <limitz-ARSNL> well, i have an ADC transmitting data to the Pi through another Xbee using SPI. I'd like to keep it consistent
[22:23] <Datalink> I really need to either switch my Pi's XBee slot from using the terminal UART or disable the serial terminal
[22:23] <Thandruil> ppq, Is there a way of doing that using the desktop to write the image to the sdcard with Win32DiskImager?
[22:24] * rikkib is working on MC9S08 and nRF24 combo to provide wireless adc via the S08
[22:25] <rikkib> http://www.zlham.geek.nz/images/news/rpi-mc9s08.jpg
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[22:26] <rikkib> http://www.zlham.geek.nz/images/news/rpi-mc9s08-nRf24-vero.jpg
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[22:27] <ppq> Thandruil, just read the readme (scroll down on that page)
[22:27] <ppq> https://github.com/hifi/raspbian-ua-netinst
[22:27] <Thandruil> Yeah, but I was wondering, is it possible to do such a thing, but making my pc download all the packages to an image?
[22:28] <Thandruil> So not having the Pi do the work on that.
[22:28] <ppq> ah, now i see
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[22:29] <ppq> i don't think so
[22:29] <ppq> if you really need an image, there are some more out there
[22:29] <limitz-ARSNL> mgottschlag: i did some googling, i was thinking of something like this
[22:30] <limitz-ARSNL> http://www.bootc.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/photo1.jpg
[22:30] <limitz-ARSNL> thankfully the guy released the eagle files via an open source license, so i can just print out his design
[22:30] <limitz-ARSNL> this is similar to the "Slice of Pi", but that only supports the through hole version, which lacks SPI/I2C functionality.
[22:30] <Thandruil> I'll let the installer do his job, then make an image from that myself. :P
[22:31] <Thandruil> Too bad I can't track it now, don't have a screen at hand which supports HDMI.
[22:31] <ppq> that was my reason to use netinst, too
[22:32] <Thandruil> LNK led is flashing so it's downloading stuff.
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[22:35] <Thandruil> How do I know if it's done?
[22:36] <ppq> when you can ssh into it
[22:36] <Thandruil> ah ofc
[22:36] <Thandruil> refused :P
[22:37] <ppq> watch -n60 ssh root@pi
[22:37] <ppq> ;)
[22:37] <Thandruil> Can I do that with Putty?
[22:37] <Thandruil> windows blegh
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[22:38] <ppq> i never used putty, sorry
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[22:42] <Thandruil> wooo
[22:42] <Thandruil> done
[22:42] <Thandruil> SSH is working
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[22:43] <Jeebiss> Hey guys
[22:43] <Jeebiss> I ma trying to set up a simple webserver to display a page or two to control my robot I am working on
[22:44] <Jeebiss> I set up a monkey server, but I cant figure out what I need to do to interface with gpio pins and such.
[22:44] <Thandruil> PHP works
[22:45] <rikkib> webiopi
[22:45] <rikkib> or something like that
[22:45] <Thandruil> Perl, Ruby
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[22:46] <rikkib> https://code.google.com/p/webiopi/
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[22:55] <gordonDrogon> http://wiringpi.com/
[22:56] <gordonDrogon> depends what sort of control your robot is looking for...
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[23:01] <linguini> Anybody tried running a wiki or blog engine off a pi?
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[23:02] <SpeedEvil> Not really hard.
[23:03] <SpeedEvil> It's plenty fast snough
[23:03] <linguini> SpeedEvil: Cool; I'll try wordpress...
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[23:04] <Thandruil> if you make an image from your sdcard
[23:04] <Thandruil> does it include empty space aswell?
[23:04] <ppq> yes
[23:04] <Thandruil> can you crop that?
[23:06] <ppq> yes
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[23:06] <ppq> the easy and dirty way is to compress the image
[23:06] <ppq> this does not work well if the sd-card has seen many things before
[23:06] <Thandruil> What if, I have this image from my 16GB SD card
[23:07] <ppq> the tidy way is a bit more complicated
[23:07] <Thandruil> and I want it on a 4GB card
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[23:08] <ppq> shrink the filesystem to <4 GB. you can't do that online
[23:08] <ppq> use a linux computer with gparted and a card reader
[23:09] <ppq> there is also a gparted live-cd that you can boot, so you don't have to change anything on your PC
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