#raspberrypi IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2014-03-26

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[0:19] <Helldesk> we just lost Oculus Rift
[0:19] <shiftplusone> (to facebook)
[0:19] <Helldesk> http://www.theverge.com/2014/3/25/5547456/facebook-buying-oculus-for-2-billion
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[0:20] <Helldesk> John friggin' Carmack is now working for that upstart
[0:21] <SpeedEvil> Sigh.
[0:21] <SpeedEvil> I truly hope they don't make it unusable for open-source stuff
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[0:23] <Helldesk> on some level it's just wrong that a man who used to fund building and launching space rockets professionally is now working for someone wishing to turn amazing new technology into a marketing tool or whatever
[0:23] <Helldesk> (fund, and build)
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[0:36] <SpeedEvil> yeah - well - Paypal guy went the other way, so it all balances.
[0:37] <SpeedEvil> _massively_ cool launch on the 30th by SpaceX
[0:37] <SpeedEvil> This will be a cargo launch to the ISS - testing as an aside a propulsive reentry and landing technique to recover the first stage.
[0:38] <SpeedEvil> http://www.spacex.com/news/2014/03/11/upcoming-mission-falcon-9-and-dragon-launching-space-station
[0:38] <[Saint]> Lets not celebrate it until its not a fiery heap.
[0:38] <[Saint]> Counting chickens, etc.
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[0:39] <SpeedEvil> Well, yes.
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[0:39] <SpeedEvil> The 'landing' is not expected to succeed.
[0:39] <SpeedEvil> For one thing, it's over water, and it doesn't float.
[0:40] <[Saint]> Its unfortunate that SpaceX has been going so well, really.
[0:40] <SpeedEvil> (Well, it probably will float, but not in a manner that is recoverable)
[0:40] <[Saint]> They're going to get ripped apart when something eventually blows up.
[0:40] <[Saint]> And, it will.
[0:40] <SpeedEvil> (reusable, it will likely be recoverable)
[0:40] <SpeedEvil> Something already has blown up.
[0:41] <SpeedEvil> However, I'm really glad that it's held off major fails so far. A fail at mission 6 is much easier to spin than one at mission 2.
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[0:51] <Helldesk> when something does, they won't
[0:51] <Helldesk> it's a risky industry and the customers in that industry know it better
[0:51] <SpeedEvil> Well, yes.
[0:52] <Helldesk> it has happened in the past to the best of them and will happen in the future to all of them
[0:52] <Helldesk> a passing grade of a rocket is 100%
[0:52] <Helldesk> *for a
[0:52] <SpeedEvil> But, it's a hell of a lot nicer position to be in if you're talking to a customer, and you have had 6/7 of your previous launchers work, than 1/2
[0:52] <Helldesk> of course
[0:52] <SpeedEvil> And that's not quite true
[0:53] <SpeedEvil> Partial fails can be somewhat acceptible.
[0:53] <Helldesk> so far they have managed a close-to-perfect record if you don't count the prototype work
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[0:53] <Helldesk> which you shouldn't
[0:53] <SpeedEvil> Non-nominal orbits can sometimes lead to non-completely-failed missions
[0:54] <Helldesk> mincing words about the Orbcomm prototype secondary payload isn't fruitful anyway, they were fine with it and had agreed to the NASA-imposed limitations
[0:54] <Helldesk> and they had insurance for the payload anyway
[0:54] <SpeedEvil> I was more thinking of other cases
[0:55] <Helldesk> well, that's the only off-nominal thing that counts for SpaceX so far
[0:55] <SpeedEvil> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PAS-22
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[1:28] <Neros> hello
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[1:37] <ShorTie> Howdy .. :)~
[1:39] <[Saint]> http://i.imgur.com/s27XT17.jpg
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[2:04] <[Saint]> Bastard friend just pointed me at this bad boy.
[2:04] <[Saint]> https://developer.nvidia.com/jetson-tk1
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[2:10] <ring0> sounds interesting
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[10:53] <computer2000> i have a usb drive with 77KB space that is formatted as FAT, how can I mount it? fdisk -l gives me strange output about it http://hastebin.com/fiyuqasigu.vhdl
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[10:59] <Jusii> didn't you yesterday be able to mount /dev/sda
[10:59] <Jusii> and forget about the partitions, fs has been made on the 'bare' device possibly?
[10:59] <ShorTie> i think you need to try to reformate that critter
[11:00] <Jusii> or make new partition table with fdisk
[11:00] <computer2000> Jusii: yes i was but when i write to it, it doesnt behave the same way as it does under mac or windows
[11:00] <computer2000> Jusii: i guess
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[11:05] <computer2000> i cant reformat it, it must be FAT for the display to work
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[11:06] <Jusii> delete partitions and make a new one
[11:06] <ShorTie> 'must be FAT for the display to work' what does that mean ??
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[11:07] <computer2000> ShorTie: the dev-board was made by engineers who didnt care about platform support, just for testing purposes, it works only with FAT
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[11:08] <[Saint]> errrr...
[11:08] <ShorTie> that right there might answer why it doesn't want to work
[11:08] <ShorTie> what dev-board ??
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[11:09] <trijntje> Every time I shutdown the RPi my SD card boot partition get corrupted. Is there a way to recover without installing again?
[11:09] <ShorTie> how are you shutting down ??
[11:09] <[Saint]> trijntje: how are you shutting down?
[11:09] <chithead> is the boot partition mounted read-write? maybe change it to read-only
[11:09] <[Saint]> do people leave it RW? Ugh.
[11:10] <trijntje> [Saint], sudo poweroff
[11:10] <computer2000> ShorTie: http://www.pervasivedisplays.com/products/74
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[11:10] <[Saint]> trijntje: "sudo shutdown -h now"
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[11:11] <[Saint]> power-off, as I understand it, is literally just that. No attempt to flush buffers out and make sure its actually /safe/ to do so.
[11:12] <trijntje> [Saint], isn't sudo poweroff an alias for that command? Thats what people say on this forum
[11:12] <trijntje> http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=19148
[11:13] <ShorTie> are you waiting till the green light stops blinking before you unplug it, it takes a few
[11:13] <trijntje> yeah, I always wait before unplugging it
[11:14] <trijntje> Is there a way to recover/only restore the boot partition? I have a disk image from a couple of months back, but I'd rather not use that and be forced to re-configure everything
[11:14] <[Saint]> Oh. Hmmm. Apparently here poweroff is just an alias to shutdown -P.
[11:14] <[Saint]> well, then, that behaviour is quite odd indeed.
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[11:14] <[Saint]> eeek, spelling.
[11:14] <trijntje> ironically, I shut it down to make a new backup, but that's corrupted to ofcourse
[11:15] <ShorTie> whelp, if 'sudo poweroff' doesn't work right for you, why not try the true kinux command 'shutdown now -h'
[11:15] <ShorTie> linux*
[11:17] <trijntje> I'll try that next time, thanks
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[11:17] <ShorTie> computer2000, interesting, that is something kinda special, have you thought about e-mailing them about the problem, i'm not sure anyone in here might be able to help if our idea's have not worked so far
[11:21] <trijntje> ah well, lets see if I can get dd to restore only the boot partition of the previous image
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[11:43] <flowty> Hello everyone; i'm using omxplayer on arch as a synchro test generator; i managed to generate a "perfect" sample where i synchronize the first frame (which shows some pattern) and an audio pcm "beep" for the same duration. However, the raspberry doesn't play it in sync (sigh). I think it may be related to me using the qt container or pcm audio (i needed pcm for reliable beep detection); could anyone check and see if the playback isn't in sy
[11:44] <flowty> Btw it plays in sync on mplayer, totem, vlc
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[11:45] <flowty> what are the preferred containers for omxplayer ?
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[12:41] <jbaanus> Hi, is it just me, or is "rpi-update BRANCH=next" firmware part broken? I am getting "gzip: stdin: not in gzip format" error. Regular rpi-update works just fine
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[12:44] <jbaanus> First, it said it is downloading firmware revision, then right away it tries to decompress it (while probably being actually downloaded)
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[12:44] <jbaanus> This happens on latest Raspbian
[12:45] <torkelatgenet> Hello, what is the maximum frequency for software PWM?
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[12:50] <torkelatgenet> And for the hardware pin 18?
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[13:05] <gordonDrogon> torkelatgenet, PWM and Frequency really are not good things to compare.
[13:05] <gordonDrogon> however you can drive the PWM clock at 19.2MHz if you choose.
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[13:06] <flowty> Is the raspi supposed to handle 1080p60 decoding ?
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[13:09] <gordonDrogon> not sure - all the docs suggest 1080p30.
[13:10] <flowty> gordonDrogon: thanks ! It seems to be the problem: it was struggling to decode 1080p60, so audio was still in sync
[13:11] <flowty> but not the video
[13:11] <flowty> is there any kind of performance indicator (similar to intel's gputop) ?
[13:11] <flowty> i mean, dsp usage
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[13:11] <gordonDrogon> no idea.
[13:11] <jbaanus> Looks like "https://github.com/Hexxeh/rpi-firmware/tarball/BRANCH=next" url is broken
[13:14] <flowty> anyone knows the decoding performance of mjpeg for instance ?
[13:16] <flowty> ow.. software only
[13:16] <flowty> never mind
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[13:19] <shiftplusone> mjpeg is software only? are you sure?
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[13:26] <cerberii> hi
[13:26] <cerberii> I want to create a web interface for network/interfaces
[13:26] <cerberii> anoyne has done this already?
[13:26] <cerberii> mainly just be able to edit etc/network/interfaces file
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[13:27] <shiftplusone> eh?
[13:28] <cerberii> for wifi
[13:28] <cerberii> so you can plug in the lan and if ssh is on automatically, you just log in to ip of pi and can setup wifi accesspoint and password and method(wpa/wep) etc
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[13:29] <cerberii> err not ssh http of apache with server to edit /etc/network/interfaces
[13:30] <cerberii> mmm you need root to do that though dont you
[13:30] <shiftplusone> to make it more user-friendly or something?
[13:30] <cerberii> yes
[13:30] <shiftplusone> (as in, why not just use ssh?)
[13:30] <shiftplusone> By default you need to be root, but there are a number of ways to get around it
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[13:32] <shiftplusone> But I haven't seen anyone make an interface just for that, though it would be trivial to make one.
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[13:33] <cerberii> where can i find help on programming this? should i just search for web interfaces kind of generally and get a template to modify files?
[13:33] <cerberii> I also want to add probobly another file that can be edited
[13:33] <shiftplusone> What are you familiar with already? PHP? python?
[13:34] <cerberii> i know python, java, c++
[13:34] <shiftplusone> I'd use python + flask.
[13:37] <cerberii> i think someone has made this already
[13:37] <cerberii> raspyfi
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[13:37] <cerberii> Wicd-curses
[13:38] <shiftplusone> I am only finding an audiophool distro called raspyfi. What does wicd-curses have to do with a web intefrace though?
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[13:43] <cerberii> mm i guess not, maybe i can find a way to make wicd-curses pop up in a web interface in apache
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[13:46] <ozzzy> shiftplusone, wicd was the only way I could get my past adapter working
[13:46] <cerberii> maybe wifiadmin
[13:47] <cerberii> ill port it to pi
[13:47] <shiftplusone> I have no problem with wicd. It's what I usually use.
[13:49] <cerberii> ah i see, give write acces to webserver user
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[13:53] <torkelatgenet> gordonDrogon: Could i run 25kHz with software?
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[13:55] <gordonDrogon> torkelatgenet, 25KHz what?
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[13:55] <torkelatgenet> pwm
[13:55] <gordonDrogon> torkelatgenet, if you're talking about the PWM output - then the frequency is fairly meaningless without knowing the other parameters. e.g. the range regsiter width.
[13:56] <dcplaya> Whats the best way to run a script at startup? This script will evetually be a GUI program
[13:56] <torkelatgenet> gordonDrogon: Is that whats called the dutycycle?
[13:56] <gordonDrogon> dcplaya, if it's needs X, then you probably have to start it after X - so get X to autostart, then work out how your chosen window manager can auto-start your program.
[13:57] <shiftplusone> dcplaya, look up lxde autostart
[13:57] <cerberii> I've found spiderape.sourceforge.net/plugins/ncruses
[13:57] <cerberii> maybe possible to get curses in java
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[13:57] <shiftplusone> cerberii, which helps you how?
[13:57] <gordonDrogon> torkelatgenet, it's many things. You have a clock feeding the PWM hardware, that clock then causes bits to be output - the bits are a value in the PWM register - the output width in controlled by he range register and the mode by the mode register (mark:space or balanced)
[13:58] <cerberii> make a java interface for wicd
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[13:58] <shiftplusone> which is better than the current interface is what way?
[13:58] <shiftplusone> *in
[13:58] <dcplaya> gordonDrogon X autostarts but it starts pointing at the incorrect display (HDMI) I need it to output to the adafruit TFT display. I can do it manually by "FRAMEBUFFER=/dev/fb1 startx" but I cant do it automatically
[13:58] <cerberii> then load it in apache letsay lcoalhost/wicd ?
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[13:59] <shiftplusone> I don't think you've thought this through
[13:59] <gordonDrogon> torkelatgenet, the starting clock value on the Pi is about 600KHz. The range regsiter is 1024, so you have 1024 bits at 1/600,000 seconds for each bit.
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[13:59] <cerberii> shiftplusone: so you can hook up your pi, setup wifi
[13:59] <cerberii> all through going to pi.hostname
[13:59] <torkelatgenet> gordonDrogon: I want to controll a fan, the specification says: "Target frequency 25kHz" The dutycycle can change from 20% to 100%
[13:59] <cerberii> in a web browser
[13:59] <gordonDrogon> torkelatgenet, oh, one of those.
[13:59] <shiftplusone> (n)curses is used for TUIs, if you need to use ncurses to create a web interface, you're doing something very wrong.
[14:00] <gordonDrogon> torkelatgenet, first you need to change the mode to mark:space.
[14:00] <gordonDrogon> torkelatgenet, then the clock to 25KHz - feed that into the divider.
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[14:00] <gordonDrogon> torkelatgenet, then pick a suitable range register value - e.g. 1000, then you set the PWM value from 200 to 1000.
[14:01] <gordonDrogon> torkelatgenet, from the command-line: gpio mode 1 pwm ; gpio pwm-ms ; gpio pwmc 25000 ; gpio pwmr 1000 ; gpio pwm 1 500
[14:01] <gordonDrogon> torkelatgenet, 500 will give you half speed.
[14:02] <torkelatgenet> what pin will this use?
[14:02] <torkelatgenet> is pwm 1 the same as gpio18?
[14:02] <gordonDrogon> there is only 1 hardware pwm pin on the pi. it's bcm-gpio pin 18, wiringPi pin 1
[14:02] <torkelatgenet> Thanks alot
[14:03] <gordonDrogon> hope you're not using it to cool the Pi.
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[14:06] <cerberii> would it be possible to just run wicd-curses.py in an web interface?
[14:06] <shiftplusone> no
[14:06] <shiftplusone> a web browser only knows how to display html (and whatever embedded media it supports).
[14:08] <Jusii> with both wicd and network-manager it's enough to edit one text file to reconfigure wifi
[14:09] <Jusii> so simple web based text editor would suffice
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[14:16] <cerberii> I think im going to make a full http web interface that autoloads, so you just have to connect to the pi via lan cable and can edit wifi settings, and change passwd's, turn ssh on/off, rpi-update the pi, apt-get update the pi and shutdown/reboot.
[14:16] <cerberii> its going to be so cool, they will include it in NOOBS and i'll be famous
[14:17] <shiftplusone> shut up and take my money
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[14:18] <shiftplusone> actually, I am not a fan of the idea, but anything that encourages learning (in this case, you learning how to make such an interface), I support
[14:19] <cerberii> going to base it off code.krenel.org/raspctl
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[14:23] <cerberii> i think something that is web based and has full functionality of pi is key to people using it
[14:23] <cerberii> i wonder if i could patent it
[14:23] <IT_Sean> I highly doubt it.
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[14:26] <cerberii> ah yes because of copywleft, but i could sell it maybe, as a packaged product, but still release source
[14:26] <torkelatgenet> gordonDrogon: "$gpio pwmc 2500" returns that the clock must be between 0 and 4096, i assume that 0 is 0Hz. Is 4096 600kHz?
[14:29] <shiftplusone> cerberii, You should sell the idea to Facebook for a few billion.
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[14:31] <IT_Sean> No, please don't.
[14:31] <IT_Sean> Facebook would just do something retarded with it.
[14:31] <cerberii> a webiopi page/config and a sketchup page will be a must
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[14:33] <cerberii> i wonder why no one has done this already for education
[14:33] <cerberii> children have no clue how to use a terminal
[14:34] <cerberii> lets aface it, a pi isn't used by kids anymore than an xbox is used as a musical instrument
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[14:34] <IT_Sean> um... cerberii... there are lots of kids using raspis.
[14:35] <shiftplusone> wanna bet? One guy here is a teacher who set a few pis at his school and the kids were crazy about it. And that's just here. People all over the world run workshops and such and the feedback is that kids think it's great.
[14:35] <cerberii> I guess, I did have the supernes mousepad and could play music on it with that one game
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[14:38] <torkelatgenet> Thanks a lot for your help gordonDrogon, Here's what im not going to use it for: http://imgur.com/8QysGe2
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[14:39] <cerberii> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kO6U0FE4VfI
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[14:39] <shiftplusone> torkelatgenet, good thing you're not actually doing that.
[14:40] <torkelatgenet> Now I can overclock to 5 GHz!
[14:40] <shiftplusone> Why stop there?
[14:40] <torkelatgenet> Not enough fans
[14:40] <shiftplusone> ah
[14:40] <torkelatgenet> Now to read the tachometer
[14:41] <cerberii> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PHpogcBTUA
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[14:53] <gordonDrogon> torkelatgenet, to cool your raspberry pi ?
[14:53] <gordonDrogon> torkelatgenet, you don't need to cool it. it's fine up to 85C.
[14:53] <torkelatgenet> To cool it at 5 GHz overclock :P
[14:53] <torkelatgenet> A joke
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[14:54] <IT_Sean> your raspi A) doesmn't need a fan abd B) won't do 5GHz
[14:55] <torkelatgenet> shiftplusone: remind me never to attempt a joke in here.
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[14:56] <shiftplusone> torkelatgenet, Poe's law has its toll on places like this.
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[14:58] <dcplaya> Looks like I got X to start on my new screen. But its running as root. I used a init.d script to start it, how can I change it to start as user?
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[14:58] <shiftplusone> dcplaya, you rewind and do it the right way from the start.
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[14:59] <shiftplusone> or, if you insists, use su in your init script.
[14:59] <dcplaya> I dont use su in my script. It only does "FRAMEBUFFER=/dev/fb1 startx"
[14:59] <shiftplusone> I know, I said use it.
[15:00] <shiftplusone> (actually I said, don't do it this way at all, but if you must, use su).
[15:00] <dcplaya> Im open to doing it the correct way. I just do not know what the correct way is
[15:01] <shiftplusone> that'll depend on what you're doing exactly.
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[15:02] <dcplaya> Starting X on the TFT display and (eventually) starting an app in X
[15:04] <shiftplusone> Tricky... I don't know what the elegant way to do it is... everything seem like a bit of a hack. I would do it through autologin via inittab on a tty and then in .bashrc, if you're running on that particular tty... run that command.
[15:05] <dcplaya> That seems better actually. Thank you shiftplusone
[15:05] <shiftplusone> np
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[15:52] <dcplaya> shiftplusone I got it working! I did an rc.local (http://elinux.org/RPi_Debian_Auto_Login) Thanks again
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[15:53] <shiftplusone> ah, so using su after all.
[15:53] <shiftplusone> But I am glad that both of these methods are on that page.... means I am not insane. =)
[15:53] <dcplaya> yes, there is a note at the bottom saying su is the better method
[15:56] <shiftplusone> It's saying it's a better method than a method previously listed on that page (but which no longer appears there), not that it's better than the inittab method...
[15:57] <dcplaya> Ah, i misunderstood
[15:57] <shiftplusone> That's the way I understood it anyway, since the inittab method they used didn't have anything to do with /etc/profile and the reasons they give don't apply to either.
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[16:45] <enen92> hey everyone. Quick question: is there any way to check an sdcard for the pi? I've one "broken" pi here however it works fine with all my sdcards just doesn't work with the original sdcard. I would like to understand why, since I can write to that sdcard without issues
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[16:49] <sqrrl> can watchdog shutdown system instead of restarting it?
[16:49] <raynerd> Maybe I`m being thick, but is there an obvious way to remove the screen blanking after 15 minutes in raspbian. I`ve googled but all solutions seems to be from 2012!
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[16:51] <sqrrl> also, pi's telling me to run fsck but i can't do it since “/dev/mmcblk0p2 is mounted.”. can i schedule the run or something?
[16:52] <THATSICT> hi folks. Got a question, maby one of you have the answer. I'am trying to make my Raspberry DPMS work. By default the screen will blank after 600 sec. but i want it to go in standby mode. I use HDMI to DVI connector, have already tried xset, but would not work. anyone had the same problem but fixed it?
[16:53] <IT_Sean> standby mode?
[16:53] <IT_Sean> oh, you mean you want the display to go into standby mode...
[16:54] <IT_Sean> right?
[16:54] <THATSICT> i mean, my monitor turn off to standby mode, and goes on when i interact.
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[16:54] <IT_Sean> Usually monitors go into standby when there is no video signal
[16:54] <raynerd> THATSICT - I have a similar question - I just want the monitor to stay on for ever and never go blank or sleep
[16:55] <THATSICT> looks like thisone only does if its gets a specific signal, when on a normal windows machine it works for the display, Raspbian only turn into a black screen
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[16:56] <THATSICT> raynerd, i saw a lot of people having that problem on forums, but all the sollutions dont seem to work
[16:56] <raynerd> yes, which is why I have come on here hoping! I work in a school and I want the Pi to be on constantly and not go to sleep!
[16:57] <THATSICT> for me it is exactly the oppisite, but i thinks one sollutions helps us both ;)\
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[16:57] <sqrrl> i got “watchdog[2437]: shutting down the system because of error -6” in syslog
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[16:58] <sqrrl> anyone knows what that means and why shutting down instead of restarting?
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[16:59] <atouk> raynerd: what will it be running
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[16:59] <raynerd> Nothing... I just want it to stay on. If the screen burns that is my fault.
[17:00] <raynerd> I just want the desktop to be visable to show it is turned ON all the time
[17:00] <atouk> haven't played with any, but there are some kiosk mode projects out there. see if any of them can help
[17:00] <sney> fwiw, I've found that the pi does not sleep the display when there is no keyboard/mouse connected
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[17:01] <THATSICT> and how about to let it sleep instead of blank
[17:04] <sqrrl> when the led lights of the pi except for PWR go down, does that mean that the system were shut down?
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[17:04] <IT_Sean> Yes.
[17:05] <IT_Sean> generally, yes.
[17:05] <sqrrl> “generally”?
[17:05] <sqrrl> uhm
[17:06] <sqrrl> i'm trying to make pi more stable but it either shuts down or stops responding or whatever at least once a week
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[17:06] <sqrrl> i woke up today anyone a single PWR is glowing and there's nothing useful (if i read them right) in the logs
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[17:07] <sqrrl> and then watchdog shuts down the system (why would watchdog /ever/ do that?!)
[17:09] <sqrrl> maybe there's a guide on making a stable pi?..
[17:10] <sqrrl> ..or anything
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[17:10] <sqrrl> this is so frustrating
[17:10] <atouk> http://www.engadget.com/2014/03/25/nvidia-announces-the-jetson-tk1-dev-kit-calls-it-the-world-s-fi/
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[17:15] <sqrrl> that doesn't look like a guide :<
[17:15] <IT_Sean> noone said it was.
[17:16] <atouk> posted because they dissed the pi
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[17:46] <RainMan28> Hi guys, I have some code that basically shows the date/time + IP address on a LCD connected to my Pi. I currently have it refresh every 60 seconds and also change the background color at the same time.
[17:46] <RainMan28> code here: http://paste.pound-python.org/show/Qo7541pCrUmqBHVKbT1Z/
[17:46] <RainMan28> what I would like to be able to do is have it change the color of the screen exactly when the minute increments
[17:47] <RainMan28> rather than just having it sleep for 1 minute after every refresh like it currently does
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[17:53] <fijal> http://morepypy.blogspot.com/2014/03/pygamecffi-pygame-on-pypy.html
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[17:53] <fijal> hi
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[18:47] <XndrK> Hello?
[18:48] <Encrypt> XndrK, Hi o/
[18:48] <XndrK> Just trying to break an awkward silence.
[18:48] <XndrK> I was going to ask a question, but I forgot what it was, so...bye.
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[18:49] <RainMan28> Hi guys, I have some code that basically shows the date/time + IP address on a LCD connected to my Pi. I currently have it refresh every 60 seconds and also change the background color at the same time.
[18:49] <RainMan28> code here: http://paste.pound-python.org/show/Qo7541pCrUmqBHVKbT1Z/
[18:49] <RainMan28> what I would like to be able to do is have it change the color of the screen exactly when the minute increments
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[18:49] <RainMan28> rather than just having it sleep for 1 minute after every refresh like it currently does
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[18:51] <Encrypt> RainMan28, Just put "lcd.backlight(c)" right after "lcd.message('IP %s' % ( ipaddr ) )"
[18:52] <Encrypt> It should work
[18:52] <Encrypt> Hum...
[18:52] <RainMan28> hey Encrypt thank you for helping
[18:52] <Encrypt> No, in fact
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[18:52] <RainMan28> but would it make a diff
[18:52] <Encrypt> I see what you want
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[18:53] <RainMan28> i guess i'm wondering if there's a way to actually have the time change at the exact moment
[18:53] <RainMan28> versus just a "every 60 seconds" thing
[18:53] <Encrypt> I see
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[18:53] <Encrypt> Thanks to another variable
[18:54] <Encrypt> BTW, you haven't the seconds now, right?
[18:54] <RainMan28> nope
[18:54] <RainMan28> but I may add those
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[18:55] <Encrypt> Do you want the seconds? :p
[18:55] <RainMan28> yeah I think i do
[18:56] <RainMan28> actually, hmm not sure, I think I prefer it in 12 hour format with am/pm showing instead of the seconds
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[19:04] <Encrypt> RainMan28, I'm doing the code btw
[19:04] <Encrypt> DOn't quit :p
[19:04] <RainMan28> haha no i won't
[19:04] <Encrypt> BTW, you have no main ? :/
[19:05] <RainMan28> whats that mean?
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[19:05] <Encrypt> RainMan28, It's the beginning of a program
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[19:05] <Encrypt> The start point where it begins
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[19:06] <RainMan28> oh i guess not
[19:06] <RainMan28> i am super new to programming python
[19:06] <RainMan28> and i copied this program from a place online and have been modifying it
[19:06] <gordonDrogon> does pithon need a main?
[19:07] <CyanBlob> Hey guys. Can anyone tell me if it's possible to damage the Pi's ground pin by hooking up too many GPIO pins to the one ground?
[19:07] <cyclick> How does a rpi compare to a nexus4 for cpu/video benchmark?
[19:07] <CyanBlob> I know the GPIO pins can be damaged from too high of a current, but is the ground the same way?
[19:07] <gordonDrogon> CyanBlob, you should be fine within the total limits of the Pi.
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[19:08] <gorhgorh> hi there
[19:09] <gorhgorh> is there a simple way to start a script only when X is started ?
[19:09] <CyanBlob> gordonDrogon: Alright, thanks. But what if I used an external power supply? Could those damage the ground?
[19:09] <CyanBlob> gorhgorh: Have you tried calling the script from your .Xinitrc file?
[19:09] <gorhgorh> (i need to run a script that need x started, and if i put it in the bashrc files it runs `BEFORE the server runs
[19:10] <gorhgorh> @CyanBlob nope, i don’t have such a file
[19:10] <CyanBlob> .xinitrc rather, not .Xinitrc
[19:10] <gorhgorh> if i create it it will behave like a .bashrc ?
[19:10] <gorhgorh> i’ll give that a try THANKS
[19:10] <ShorTie> gorhgorh, maybe look at some autostart X programs like xscreensaver or tightvnc for examples
[19:11] <gordonDrogon> CyanBlob, probably not.
[19:11] <gordonDrogon> CyanBlob, just make sure the 0v lines of the Pi and your PSU are connected.
[19:11] <CyanBlob> gorhgorh: I believe that you can safely make it yourself. The contents in ~/.xinitrc are run when the X server starts
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[19:11] <CyanBlob> gordonDrogon: Alright, thank you very much.
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[19:13] <Encrypt> RainMan28, Here it is: http://pastebin.com/4HLtX3TR
[19:13] <Encrypt> I didn't try on my own computer, but it should do the job ;)
[19:13] <RainMan28> awesome, testing right now!
[19:13] <Encrypt> Ok
[19:13] * Encrypt hopes there is no error :D
[19:15] <gorhgorh> @CyanBlob works like a charm, thanks
[19:15] <CyanBlob> gorhgorh: Awesome! You're welcome.
[19:15] <RainMan28> File "time.py", line 22
[19:15] <RainMan28> if (color = 0):
[19:15] <RainMan28> ^
[19:15] <RainMan28> SyntaxError: invalid syntax
[19:15] <Encrypt> Ok, I did a beautiful "backdoor"
[19:15] <Encrypt> Linux-like
[19:16] <CyanBlob> RainMan28: if(color == 0)
[19:16] <Encrypt> It's "==" and not "="
[19:16] <Encrypt> Same line 51
[19:16] <RainMan28> ok thanks
[19:16] <Encrypt> if (current_time.strftime('%S') == '00'):
[19:16] <RainMan28> what about the elif's?
[19:16] <RainMan28> are those single equals?
[19:17] <Encrypt> Nope
[19:17] <CyanBlob> RainMan28: Nope, double
[19:17] <Encrypt> "==" also
[19:17] <RainMan28> thanks
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[19:17] <CyanBlob> RainMan28: "==" compares two things, "=" assigns one thing to another
[19:17] <RainMan28> so the double equals means we're testing for that value whereas single equals assign?
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[19:17] <CyanBlob> RainMan28: Correct.
[19:18] <cyclick> yes and javascript, tripple = tests
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[19:18] <Demon_Jester> Hey guys quick question, If I want to setup my pi for remote connection via ssh would I just change the port (from 22) and then configure the firewall?
[19:18] <CyanBlob> Demon_Jester: The port can stay as 22, but you would need to set up port forwarding from your router.
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[19:19] <ShorTie> taking it away from port 22 would be a good idea, imho
[19:19] <gordonDrogon> Demon_Jester, er .. what CyanBlob said. sorting the port-forwarding on your internet modem/router is usually the biggest stumbling block if this isn't something you're familiar with.
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[19:20] <Encrypt> RainMan28, Another problem spotted
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[19:20] <Demon_Jester> Oh right I forgot about port forwarding
[19:20] <Encrypt> This should work: http://pastebin.com/qecHstwk
[19:20] <CyanBlob> Yes, changing it away from port 22 is a good idea, but not necessary.
[19:20] <Demon_Jester> do I need to configure the firewall or just change the port, and port forward?
[19:20] <Encrypt> It was: "lcd.backlight(change_color(color))"
[19:20] <CyanBlob> It helps to prevent random people trying to SSH into your machine
[19:20] <gordonDrogon> Demon_Jester, you can forward an external different port ( e.g. 2222) to internal port 22.
[19:21] <gordonDrogon> it's "security through obscurity" won't stop anyone determined, but helps.
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[19:21] <RainMan28> Encrypt: nice, and if i want to remove the last color (lcd.ON), do i just take out lines 40-41, and then change line 53 to color = (color + 1) % 6
[19:21] <gordonDrogon> but whatever do you - do change the default password!
[19:21] <IT_Sean> ^ that
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[19:21] <Encrypt> RainMan28, Yes ;)
[19:21] <cyclick> gordonDrogon: is using a password or a ssh key also security through obscurity?
[19:22] <ShorTie> not really
[19:22] <Demon_Jester> I actually have ssh key so my devices talk directly to each other instead of using password
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[19:22] <atouk> new passwords can be tricky to remember sometimes. post it here so if you forget it, we could remind you
[19:22] <Encrypt> RainMan28, Ths symbol '%' returns what remains when you divide (color +1) by seven in the example
[19:22] <Encrypt> So, if you remove one wolor, you have to write : "% 6"
[19:23] <RainMan28> ah ok
[19:23] <Encrypt> So that the values of color + 1 will vary between 0 and 5
[19:23] <Encrypt> (You can't get 6 because 6 / 6 = 1, remaining 0)
[19:23] <RainMan28> Encrypt: so this is what I have now: http://pastebin.com/vQi0MFZ3
[19:23] <RainMan28> and it runs for the first minute, then freezes at 59th second
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[19:24] <RainMan28> and errors out with: http://pastebin.com/aQ6TJWug
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[19:25] <Encrypt> Hum...
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[19:26] <Encrypt> RainMan28, Apparently, it doesn't like the string which is returned
[19:26] <Encrypt> Ok, I see!
[19:27] <Encrypt> I misunderstood how "Adafruit_CharLCDPlate" worked
[19:27] <Encrypt> When you do: "lcd.COLOR", it returns something from this Adafruit pacakge
[19:27] <RainMan28> yes and for some reason the first color it always shows is just blank
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[19:27] <RainMan28> after the seconds change to 00
[19:27] <RainMan28> then it goes to one of the colors
[19:28] <RainMan28> instead of going to it right away
[19:28] <Encrypt> RainMan28, So, just remove all simple quotes where you see 'LCD.XXX'
[19:28] <IT_Sean> Mind if I ask what you are doing with that display? I have the same one.
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[19:28] <Encrypt> Then it should finally work :p
[19:28] <RainMan28> just trying to learn on it IT_Sean, showing date+clock + IP address
[19:29] <RainMan28> Encrypt: ah nice, it is working
[19:29] <Encrypt> \o/
[19:29] <RainMan28> is there a way to define a color at the start of it, I see color = 0 being set
[19:29] <Encrypt> RainMan28, With the seconds working? :)
[19:29] <RainMan28> but then wouldn't the script start with red first?
[19:29] <Encrypt> RainMan28, Yes, you could do:
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[19:30] <IT_Sean> Ah
[19:30] <IT_Sean> Awesome.
[19:30] <Encrypt> color = <NumberOfTheColorYouWant>
[19:30] <RainMan28> yep, seconds are working. So it looks like it is clearing and redrawing the entire screen every time, which makes it kind of "flash" on the screen, is that because of line 54's lcd.clear() command? Can we remove that line?
[19:30] <Encrypt> lcd.backlight(change_color(color))
[19:30] <Encrypt> And then there is the while 1: ....
[19:30] <IT_Sean> No, if you remove the .clear command, the LCD tries to append the new data and just overflows
[19:30] <ShorTie> now you need to make it pick a random color
[19:30] <IT_Sean> you need to .clear before you can display new text
[19:30] <Encrypt> RainMan28, That's because of the seconds
[19:31] <Encrypt> We need to refresh the LCD everytime data is sent to make it display
[19:31] <Encrypt> What you could do would be to display the seconds every 5 seconds
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[19:32] <IT_Sean> or just not display seconds.
[19:32] <Encrypt> IT_Sean, He wanted the seconds 10 minutes ago! :p
[19:32] <Encrypt> But that's also a solution
[19:32] <Encrypt> :D
[19:32] <IT_Sean> gah
[19:32] * IT_Sean wanders off
[19:32] <RainMan28> haha
[19:32] <RainMan28> nah you guys are right
[19:32] <IT_Sean> Of course we are.
[19:32] <Encrypt> =D
[19:33] <Encrypt> Or you can overclock your LCD \o/
[19:33] * Encrypt is just joking :D
[19:33] <RainMan28> I just swear I saw an example where the seconds were updating without the entire screen being redrawn
[19:33] <RainMan28> trying to find it
[19:34] <IT_Sean> RainMan28: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvWimid65Fk
[19:34] <RainMan28> ah yeah, how is that being done?
[19:34] <IT_Sean> I did it a while ago
[19:35] <Encrypt> LCD screens are really mysterious for me :D
[19:35] <IT_Sean> If you are willing to wait four or five hours, i will dig the code up when i get home.
[19:35] <RainMan28> IT_Sean: yeah sure
[19:35] <IT_Sean> I'll try to remember
[19:35] <RainMan28> maybe its just the camera's refresh rate or something but it seems like its not redrawing the entire screen
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[19:35] <Encrypt> I think I don't like them because we started displaying things on one in assembly language :P
[19:36] <IT_Sean> It was clearing and redrawing... the code was just efficient enough that it did it reasonably quickly, and it wasn't really noticeable to the eye
[19:36] <IT_Sean> as i recall
[19:36] <RainMan28> interesting
[19:36] <IT_Sean> I believe i just had it running in a loop: display [bla] [bla] [time], clear, start over.
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[19:37] <RainMan28> ah i see
[19:37] <RainMan28> i was following this: http://learn.adafruit.com/drive-a-16x2-lcd-directly-with-a-raspberry-pi/python-code
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[19:42] <RainMan28> IT_Sean: yeah, would love it if you could dig it up later
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[19:45] <IT_Sean> RainMan28: when i get home... I'll fire up the raspi and grab that code chunk for ya.
[19:45] <IT_Sean> it's 2:45, and i'm usually home around 5:30
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[19:45] <IT_Sean> so, you are gonna hafta wait a bit.
[19:46] <gordonDrogon> cyclick, sorry - was afk. either password or an ssh key is ok - both have their merits. also use a key with a password :)
[19:47] <gordonDrogon> cyclick, I maintain a system with ssh on a non-standard port - nothing special, but have noted over the years that it's never once been triggered. this doesn't mean it's secure, just that no-one is looking at it.
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[19:51] <Encrypt> RainMan28, BTW, what I wrote was quite ugly
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[19:52] <RainMan28> haha Encrypt i liked it
[19:52] <RainMan28> i have changed it a little
[19:52] <Encrypt> This is cleaner: http://pastebin.com/nC2nXJ4M
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[19:52] <RainMan28> oh nice
[19:52] <Encrypt> It uses an array instead of a big bloc of elifs
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[19:53] <Encrypt> I've just learnt how easy it is to access an array in Python :p
[19:53] <Encrypt> (To tell you the truth, I started python a week ago at school)
[19:53] <Encrypt> s/week/month
[19:54] <RainMan28> very nice
[19:54] <RainMan28> i changed it to this: http://pastebin.com/7jRinY3X
[19:54] <RainMan28> for testing
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[19:55] <RainMan28> removed seconds, and have it only update when seconds change, so the screen redrawing issue is gone for now
[19:55] <Encrypt> RainMan28, There is a problem
[19:55] <RainMan28> oh?
[19:55] <Encrypt> The sleep(1) will never be accessed
[19:55] <Encrypt> Since you'll remain in the while 1: loop
[19:55] <Encrypt> Hum, no
[19:55] <Encrypt> It's ok
[19:55] <RainMan28> i left it in the loop i think?
[19:55] * Encrypt is definitely too tired :D
[19:56] <Encrypt> RainMan28, Yes, you're right
[19:56] <Encrypt> My bad
[19:56] <Encrypt> RainMan28, Another thing
[19:56] <Encrypt> It's lcd.color_array[color] (line 27)
[19:56] <Encrypt> Remove the "s"
[19:57] <RainMan28> thanks
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[19:57] <Encrypt> Another mistake :p
[19:57] <Encrypt> I think I'll stop here for the code :D
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[19:58] <RainMan28> AttributeError: Adafruit_CharLCDPlate instance has no attribute 'color_array'
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[20:18] <XndrK> Hi,
[20:18] <XndrK> Is there a way that I can "borrow" the keyboard and trackpad from a laptop?
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[20:20] <IT_Sean> Remote desktop.
[20:20] <XndrK> Pardon?
[20:20] <IT_Sean> in so far as "plugging them in" to the Pi directly, no.
[20:21] <IT_Sean> you can use the laptop to SSH or VNC into the Pi though.
[20:22] <XndrK> And how would I go about doing that?
[20:22] <IT_Sean> Most operating systems for the Pi have SSH enabled by default... on the laptop, open a terminal and type SSH username@raspi's IP address
[20:23] <IT_Sean> VNC is a bit more involved, as you will need to install / enable a VNC server on the raspi.
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[20:27] <CyanBlob> XndrK: Which operating system do you have on your laptop?
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[20:34] <XndrK> CyanBlob: Windows 7.
[20:34] <XndrK> I know, I know, it's Windows, but the person who owns the computer is a computational xenophobe.
[20:35] <IT_Sean> That's no excuse for running a crap OS.
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[20:36] <XndrK> I know, I know, I know.
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[20:37] <XndrK> Which is why I'm glad I got my Pi.
[20:37] <pksato> and, also have: "Synergy is free and open source software for sharing one mouse and keyboard between multiple computers. Works on Windows, Mac OS X, Linux, Android and Apple iOS"
[20:37] <pksato> but, I dont know if work on RPi.
[20:37] <XndrK> Well, Raspbian is Linux.
[20:37] <XndrK> Unfortunately, I have almost NO Linux experience whatsoever, so if it involves command line, I'm screwed.
[20:38] <IT_Sean> You are going to have to get comfortable in a command line environment.
[20:38] <pksato> http://learn.adafruit.com/synergy-on-raspberry-pi/intro-what-is-synergy
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[20:44] <XndrK> IT_Sean: I know. Is there a tutorial?
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[20:44] <XndrK> For basic Linux command line?
[20:44] <Kane> o/
[20:46] <oldtopman> o/ Kane
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[20:46] <Kane> hey oldtopman :)
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[20:52] <XndrK> I'll take that as a no.
[20:53] <oldtopman> XndrK: Experience is the best teacher.
[20:54] <oldtopman> XndrK: "man" and "wtf" are going to be your friends - then spend some time getting familiar with the command line rather than a file manager - cd,ls,rm,etc.
[20:56] <gordonDrogon> oldtopman, family friend channel... that three letter acronym is not a linux command...
[20:57] <IT_Sean> gordonDrogon: I was about to say the same thing, but...
[20:57] <IT_Sean> sean@X220 ~ $ wtf
[20:57] <IT_Sean> The program 'wtf' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing:
[20:57] <IT_Sean> sudo apt-get install bsdgames
[20:57] <oldtopman> gordonDrogon: Yes, yes it is.
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[20:57] <IT_Sean> ^ although that nick is not acceptable in here
[20:57] <oldtopman> gordonDrogon: http://hastebin.com/tapisuyibi.coffee
[20:58] <gordonDrogon> Boo )-:
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[20:58] <ozzzy> man... they ain't giving nylon standoffs away
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[21:55] <doublehp> how do i probe a monitor ? they do not appear in lshw, and X.0.log is ... not apropriate for my need
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[22:09] <seismo> ohai there!
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[22:11] <ShorTie> Howdy .. :)~
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[22:19] <Demon_Jester> hey guys after I generated a public authentication key and add it to raspberry pi (.ssh/authorized_keys) I reboot the raspberry pi, and it still prompts me for a password.
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[22:20] <hybr1d8> try adding '-v -v -v'
[22:20] <hybr1d8> to the ssh command
[22:20] <Demon_Jester> kk
[22:20] <hybr1d8> it will give you more verbose output and may say why it failed
[22:20] <ShorTie> different then the regular login password ??
[22:20] <Demon_Jester> ok
[22:20] <hybr1d8> (often permissions)
[22:21] <Demon_Jester> oh :X when I generated the key I didnt put a password....
[22:21] <Demon_Jester> I think thats why
[22:21] <AbbyTheRat> of course :P
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[22:21] <Demon_Jester> derp (O )____( o)
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[22:23] <Demon_Jester> ok I generated and send it over to the rpi, and this should work
[22:25] <Demon_Jester> ok I just tried again and it prompts for a password still, even after rebooting the raspberry pi
[22:26] <Demon_Jester> ioh.......
[22:26] <Demon_Jester> I think I need to change the chmod permissions
[22:26] <Demon_Jester> gah
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[22:31] <doublehp> Demon_Jester: sounds like you are stuck on auto auth via RSA ?
[22:31] <hybr1d8> did you try the -v -v -v?
[22:31] <Demon_Jester> I did do a rsa generation, I just changed the chmod permission (to 700) and gonna try again
[22:31] <Demon_Jester> I am about to hybrid
[22:32] <canton7> make sure there are correct permissions on your home dir, you .ssh folder, *and* the key
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[22:34] <Demon_Jester> hybrid: -v is invalid option for ssh device I am ssh from (dropbear)
[22:34] <blockh34d> hi all is there a good app for remote viewing picam? like from my phone outside of my lan
[22:35] <doublehp> Demon_Jester: i really feel you don't know what you are doing
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[22:36] <doublehp> rsa auth is very easy, and can be done in 3 steps
[22:38] <Demon_Jester> doublehp: I have done this before and it was very easy I just don't know its so difficult for me now.
[22:38] <Demon_Jester> know why its*
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[22:38] <doublehp> so, let's start again together ?
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[22:41] <Demon_Jester> doublehp: no thanks. It wont work.
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[22:50] <blockh34d> hi rpi users. anyone have any apps they wish existed for RPI or perhaps existed in a better form?
[22:50] <blockh34d> let me know and maybe i'll make it
[22:51] <blockh34d> also i need beta testers for my media player gui msg me if you'd like a free copy of the app
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[23:15] <magnulu> hello.. I have a couple of raspberrys hooked up to some ds18b20s..one of these keep loosing contact with the sensors (all of them) suddenly, and for days, before they suddenly get "back" again.. any educated guesses to where to start troubleshooting?
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[23:16] <magnulu> the wiring between the raspberry and the daisy chain with the sensors has been checked.. I initially thought this was a case of bad connection
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[23:22] <gordonDrogon> anyone ever seen a keyboard issue on the Pi where the keys will auto-repeat (when you're not holding a key down) ?
[23:23] <magnulu> fyi: six ds18b20s, one 3.3k pullup near the pi, daisy chain topology with unshielded cat5 cable, data and ground connected to blue and blue/white, power connected to brown.. all other leads left unconnected..
[23:23] <blockh34d> magnulu: could it be moisture building up in the items housing, creating a short? i don't know what those sensors are
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[23:24] <blockh34d> is it indoor / outdoor? keep describing your scenario please, I'm no expert but i'm bored an pretty decent at tracking down bugs
[23:24] <magnulu> blockh34d: 1-wire temperature sensors.. would not think moisture is the case here, but all thought are welcome, so thank you
[23:24] <blockh34d> and when you lose contact, theres aboslutely no response from the thermistor? or it responds but incorrectly?
[23:25] <blockh34d> is there anything else that could be creating static charge?
[23:25] <blockh34d> the way you describe it sounds like either hardware failure or environmental snafu (moisture / static / etc)
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[23:25] <ozzzy> gordonDrogon, mine did that with the logitech wireless
[23:25] <magnulu> indoor, dry environment.. I have two other similar setups (only worse cabling, as the one in question was the last one I set up).. I get no response at all, the pi does not even see the sensors
[23:26] <blockh34d> i think if it were me i would remove the daisy chain setup and only use one for a moment, see if it has the problem... then after that, if its ok, try the next, and again, until you've one and time confirmed all operate consistently
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[23:26] <magnulu> blockh34d: could it be an unstable resistor? can those buggers act up?
[23:26] <blockh34d> yah my first step would be swap out everything with known good versions, but one at a time so you can see whats going wrong for you
[23:26] <blockh34d> i guess its possible but its usually pretty obvious when you've let the magic smoke out
[23:27] <blockh34d> its visibly charred and or snapped in half, and smells horrible
[23:27] <blockh34d> if you're in a no-response time, what fixes it? waiting, rebooting, rewiring?
[23:27] <magnulu> blockh34d: from my experiments, one faulty sensor would not make me lose all of them..
[23:27] <blockh34d> well daisy chain...
[23:28] <blockh34d> sounds as strong as the weakest link
[23:28] <blockh34d> as far as wiring goes... to me anyways
[23:28] <blockh34d> i'm just grasping straws
[23:29] <blockh34d> like i said, i'm bored, and sometimes i think it helps to talk out a problem... but don't let me waste your time chasing ghosts
[23:29] <magnulu> :)
[23:29] <blockh34d> curious though, what fixes the problem?
[23:29] <blockh34d> that can be kind of informative
[23:29] <magnulu> waiting..
[23:30] <blockh34d> if you're in a no-joy time, and you reboot, is it still borked?
[23:30] <magnulu> yes
[23:30] <blockh34d> and by reboot i mean completely remove power from the device and wait a while
[23:30] <magnulu> have not tried that.. the pi is in a place difficult to get to
[23:30] <blockh34d> hmm that rules out a bunch of stuff if its definately not the pi
[23:31] <blockh34d> well fyi if there was an electronic failure, rebooting might not clear it out
[23:31] <magnulu> like static?
[23:31] <blockh34d> soemtimes with how sensitive the chips are, it doesnt take much static buildup to throw them off
[23:31] <blockh34d> right
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[23:32] <magnulu> what could cause static buildup?
[23:32] <blockh34d> again, i'm no expert, but here's some ideas for you to put on thelist, maybe it'll help after you've tried everything else
[23:32] <blockh34d> cats, carpetting
[23:32] <blockh34d> dry weather and certain clothing?
[23:32] <gordonDrogon> ozzzy, this is with wired keyboards. I'm suspecting power supply, but who knows.
[23:32] <blockh34d> like wool sweaters etc
[23:32] <gordonDrogon> according to my testers it started on their Pi's after I added sound into the software.
[23:33] <magnulu> blockh34d: the pi sits in a concrete room with electric cables and water tubes, measuring the temperature of the different tubes
[23:33] <ozzzy> gordonDrogon, ahhh... wired I'm not sure about... just start?
[23:33] <blockh34d> really sounds like a shakey connection to me
[23:34] <magnulu> :)
[23:34] <blockh34d> like maybe vibration from the setting is causing the variation
[23:34] <blockh34d> well i'm gonna go work on something
[23:34] <blockh34d> i think i've done enough damage here
[23:34] <blockh34d> good luck magnulu
[23:34] <magnulu> thank you blockh34d, I appreciate your thoughts :)
[23:35] <blockh34d> oh oh
[23:35] <blockh34d> oh wait i think i know
[23:35] <blockh34d> i should have suggested this right away cause this is almost always the problem with rpi's
[23:35] <blockh34d> what are you using for a power supply?
[23:35] <gordonDrogon> ozzzy, I've noticed it once - the chaps testing my basic have noticed it too - they're telling me it only started happening after I added sound support.
[23:36] <magnulu> blockh34d: don't remember atm, but it is identical to another one I have..
[23:36] <blockh34d> its kind of important
[23:36] <ozzzy> gordonDrogon, that kind of indicates drivers to me
[23:36] <gordonDrogon> I noticed it when I had a cheap psu connected to it, running minecraft at the same time.
[23:36] <blockh34d> cause 500 milliamps will boot the pi, but it will be flakey
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[23:37] <blockh34d> 700 ma is the minimum, 1 amp is generally recommended
[23:37] <gordonDrogon> ozzzy, it's working fine for me now though - that's the issue )-: and when I tested all the sound stuff, I never observed an issue on the Pi I'm using.
[23:37] <magnulu> blockh34d: and max?
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[23:37] <blockh34d> afaik there really isnt a max
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[23:37] <ozzzy> ah well
[23:37] <blockh34d> the rpi just takes what it needs, the rest goes back in the wall
[23:37] <ozzzy> things that make you go hmmmmm
[23:37] <gordonDrogon> magnulu, the Pi has a 700mA polyfuse on the input �USB connector. Max can be as much as you want.
[23:38] <gordonDrogon> blockh34d, technically incorrect - the rest isn't provided - it doesn't go back...
[23:38] <blockh34d> will a 1a supply pop that fuze gordonDrogon
[23:38] <blockh34d> oh ok
[23:38] <gordonDrogon> blockh34d, only if you short something - like the GPIO pins.
[23:38] <blockh34d> thats what happens when the deaf lead the blind
[23:38] <ozzzy> supplies don't push current... devices draw current
[23:38] <blockh34d> misinformation
[23:38] <blockh34d> great thanks for clearing that up
[23:38] <ozzzy> you can gook a pi up to 100A... it'll only draw what it draws
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[23:39] <gordonDrogon> blockh34d, lots of people are confused about power, I'd not wory about it!
[23:39] <magnulu> thanks for the clarification folks :)
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[23:39] <blockh34d> so i think i'm going to make a remote picam viewer app that sets up awebserver and pushes the images into a webpage
[23:39] <blockh34d> does that sound userful?
[23:39] <magnulu> blockh34d: and thanks a lot for some ideas.. exactly what I needed
[23:39] <blockh34d> i think it'd be neat to be able to watch my picam from my phone
[23:40] <blockh34d> yah maybe we just get those brain juices flowing
[23:40] <blockh34d> you can take it from there :P
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[23:41] <blockh34d> well i'm dirty i need a shower, totally covered in drywall dust
[23:41] <blockh34d> bye
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[23:43] <magnulu> ciao
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