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IRC Log for 2014-03-28

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[0:00] <blockh34d> but you should think in that direction because making games requires that sort of planning
[0:00] <blockh34d> right now my cpu is using most of its reasources for your game and the game is neither visible nor active
[0:00] <blockh34d> which is fine for learning but long run imo its a bit of a problem (thus the redrawBoard variable)
[0:01] <blockh34d> lets think of some challenges
[0:01] <blockh34d> programming challenges for you
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[0:01] <blockh34d> i can think of three good ones right away
[0:01] <blockh34d> 1) make it fullscreen and using the full screen, not just a corner of it
[0:02] <blockh34d> 2) make it for up to 4 players
[0:02] <Raynerd> :-S
[0:02] <blockh34d> 3) use functions
[0:02] <blockh34d> functions that you wrote that is
[0:02] <blockh34d> all of those would be extra credit imo
[0:02] <blockh34d> very doable tasks every one.
[0:04] <Raynerd> in your latest code, the text name doesn`t change?!
[0:04] <Raynerd> text message
[0:04] <blockh34d> it doesn't? lol
[0:04] <blockh34d> oph haha now it only changes if you press enter
[0:05] <blockh34d> lovely, sec... thats a tabbing problem. python is very particular about how things are tabbed
[0:05] <blockh34d> theres code in the check-for-enter-press block of code that should be 'up a level' in the parent block
[0:06] <blockh34d> if that statement doesnt make sense, try this
[0:06] <Raynerd> right, I`m going to have to go bed... my head is hurting!!
[0:07] <blockh34d> first go to this link and get the code i fixed
[0:07] <blockh34d> http://codepad.org/1TTGr5bo
[0:07] <blockh34d> get that code first m8 its all sorted
[0:07] <blockh34d> but if you want, look at the block of code that checks for enter press
[0:07] <blockh34d> as you paste in the new code
[0:07] <blockh34d> you'll see a few lines shimmy over to the left
[0:07] <blockh34d> that has moved that code out of one block, into the parent block, which is what was needed here
[0:08] <blockh34d> yes you should probably take a minute and let your brain absorb/settle on this
[0:08] <blockh34d> too much too fast and your head will pop
[0:08] <blockh34d> have fun
[0:09] <Raynerd> :-S
[0:09] <Raynerd> looks identical!
[0:10] <blockh34d> yah it just moved a little to the left
[0:10] <blockh34d> you know what a code block is?
[0:10] <blockh34d> these if (something) checks are all code blocks for example
[0:10] <Raynerd> Ooops I see!!!
[0:10] <blockh34d> python defines code blocks by tab
[0:11] <blockh34d> everything thats at the same tab and the same as the last line is in the same code block
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[0:11] <blockh34d> i had screwed up and put that 'change up the player text' stuff in the 'player pressed enter' code block, which works for if they press enter then, but not otherwise (oops). so the fix here is get it out of that inner block and up into the parent block.
[0:12] <blockh34d> its not so tricky i think i'm overcomplicating it cuase thats what i do
[0:12] <blockh34d> you'll get it all sorted no problem i'm sure. python is super easy and you seem like a smart guy. good luck!
[0:12] <Raynerd> haha :-)
[0:12] <Raynerd> thanks for all the help!
[0:13] <blockh34d> you can always ask me anything about this stuff, i love coding, games, and helping people get into programming, so it's never a problem really
[0:13] <Raynerd> working now!
[0:13] <blockh34d> great
[0:13] <blockh34d> when you feel up to it, get that 'game over' bit working
[0:13] <blockh34d> i thought about it but i feel like thats a good challenge for you since you know what this game should do better
[0:14] <blockh34d> another challenge, make it put the yellow square somewhere at random
[0:14] <Raynerd> done the game over bit :-)
[0:14] <Raynerd> did that right away. Also got it saying game title at the start :-)
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[0:15] <blockh34d> i figured a sample of text output would go a long way ;)
[0:15] <blockh34d> i think you should consider breaking your code into functions
[0:15] <Raynerd> How would you add a second "title block" at the bottom, Message2 text
[0:15] <blockh34d> this is about as big of a program as i would write without doing that
[0:15] <Raynerd> yes, I`ve used functions in C but never in python. Will have to read!
[0:15] <blockh34d> ah i can't make life too easy on you ray
[0:16] <blockh34d> it'll detriment your learning process
[0:16] <blockh34d> how about you give it a shot and let me know what specific problems you encounter
[0:16] <blockh34d> def hello(world):
[0:16] <blockh34d> done
[0:18] <Raynerd> I can`t understand at all how you have added the rectangle where the text sits!
[0:18] <blockh34d> ah yah its subtle
[0:18] <Raynerd> lol this isn`t me sleeping :-p
[0:18] <blockh34d> +margin
[0:18] <blockh34d> no sorry
[0:18] <blockh34d> +height
[0:18] <blockh34d> in the y coord stuff, like drawing rectangle or checking mouse
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[0:19] <blockh34d> although checking mouse i -height
[0:19] <blockh34d> hey chan
[0:19] <blockh34d> should me and Raynerd be having this chat in a msg window or main chan window?
[0:19] <blockh34d> we couldnt figure it out, seems good either way, maybe this helps other people etc. but if its too much lemme know.
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[0:20] <Raynerd> I`m gonna have to sleep soon!
[0:20] <blockh34d> go sleep now the code will wait
[0:20] <Raynerd> yea! true
[0:20] <Raynerd> think I`ll have to!
[0:20] <blockh34d> you'll make better changes in the monring
[0:20] <Raynerd> yes
[0:20] <Raynerd> ok, gnight
[0:20] <blockh34d> gnight
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[1:12] <GeekDude> mjpeg-streamer is giving me ~2s delay. Any way to meaningfully troubleshoot this?
[1:13] <blockh34d> i noticed similar
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[1:13] <blockh34d> but that overtime the delay decreased until it was almost realtime
[1:13] <GeekDude> Everyone praises it for being really responsive
[1:13] <blockh34d> you're streaming a picam?
[1:13] <GeekDude> blockh34d: USB webcam
[1:13] <blockh34d> hmm i bet the picam is faster but i doubt it'd make a 2 second pause in difference
[1:13] <Colsarcol> Can you run live video of the RPi cameras?
[1:13] <ShorTie> picam you can use raspimjep
[1:14] <blockh34d> yes
[1:14] <blockh34d> Colsarcol: yes
[1:14] <blockh34d> 1080p even
[1:14] <blockh34d> its actually pretty impressive i think, for a little 30$ cam
[1:14] <Colsarcol> blockh34d, thats awesome, I really want to get one and use it with an oculust rift
[1:14] <blockh34d> i'm going to make a remote access app for it
[1:14] <Colsarcol> oculus *
[1:14] <blockh34d> i'm making that exact setup now actually only no rift
[1:14] <blockh34d> i sorta made a homemade stereoscopic display
[1:14] <GeekDude> Anyone here with a mindstorms NXT?
[1:15] <Colsarcol> Thats sick dude
[1:15] <GeekDude> blockh34d: sorta-kinda?
[1:15] <blockh34d> and i'm setting up a fully armored helmet
[1:15] <blockh34d> well its two 2.5 lcd's
[1:15] <blockh34d> 2 rpis
[1:15] <GeekDude> blockh34d: Just don't sell to facebook ;)
[1:15] <blockh34d> and the optics from some old crappy vr helmet with bad displays
[1:15] <blockh34d> yah no worries
[1:15] <Colsarcol> Im still in the researching process, but I want to create a robot tank with a live pov camera on it
[1:15] <blockh34d> i actually want to make homemade movie
[1:15] <blockh34d> about a DIY vigilante
[1:16] <blockh34d> so i make the gear in a marginally functional capacity and then use hollywood magic to make it look good/real
[1:16] <blockh34d> but thats all way down the road
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[1:16] <blockh34d> for now i'm just making some kinda ill looking stuff (helmet, gloves)
[1:16] <GeekDude> I've strapped my raspberry pi onto a LEGO Mindstorms NXT (I had driver issues with the EV3, so here I am with the older version), and am making a lego based web-rover
[1:17] <blockh34d> awesome
[1:17] <blockh34d> i want to make quadrocopter drones
[1:17] <GeekDude> blockh34d: I've already nailed down everything but the webcam
[1:17] <Colsarcol> So Ive been looking at arduino and RPi and I cant decide what one I want to build a robot with. I like RPi because it has a lot more ram and processors but arduino is easier to set up and Im more intrested in the programing then the building of it
[1:17] <blockh34d> how about both Colsarcol ?
[1:17] <blockh34d> i havent used them together but its the focus of the latest pi magazine on the pi store
[1:18] <GeekDude> Both sounds fun. Isn't there an pi-arduino crossover board?
[1:18] <blockh34d> i think you should check that out (pretty sure its free)
[1:18] <blockh34d> i dunno if its even a board
[1:18] <Colsarcol> GeekDude, I think there is
[1:18] <blockh34d> might just be a couple cables
[1:18] <blockh34d> oh ok
[1:18] <blockh34d> yes then, maybe
[1:18] <Colsarcol> blockh34d, Im just worried that there might be too much of a limit with what sheilds are compatable atm
[1:19] <blockh34d> i don't have as much use for arduinos any more
[1:19] <blockh34d> maybe as the sort of manager of other smaller sensors, thermistors, strain guages, etc
[1:19] <blockh34d> but even then it should report that data to an rpi for proper processing
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[1:19] <Colsarcol> Seeing as I want to broadcast video I thin RPi is a lot better for that
[1:20] <blockh34d> 'should' is astrong word there
[1:20] <blockh34d> i think is probably better...
[1:20] <blockh34d> oh yah definately
[1:20] <Colsarcol> But I dont want to build with breadboards or anything like that. I just wish that RPi had more sheilds
[1:20] <Colsarcol> in due time I guess
[1:20] <blockh34d> rpi can broadcast it's picam with netcat and vlc no problem
[1:20] <GeekDude> I've had great success with webcam streaming on windows-only java based streamers ¬_¬
[1:20] <Colsarcol> YEA JAVA!!!
[1:20] <blockh34d> netcat can take raspicam's output and send it straight to vlc on another computer
[1:21] <Colsarcol> Oh really?
[1:21] <blockh34d> yep
[1:21] <GeekDude> The problem is I need to embed to http
[1:21] <blockh34d> commandline magic
[1:21] <blockh34d> well heres a thought
[1:21] <blockh34d> i'm making that as my next app
[1:21] <blockh34d> check back in about a week, you can be a beta tester (free copy)
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[1:22] <blockh34d> send me your email addy in a msg window and i'll send you demo/test copys as i write it if you want
[1:22] <blockh34d> my next pistore app is going to be for remote picam access
[1:22] <blockh34d> and it's going to be in-browser
[1:22] <blockh34d> which sounds like what you're going for
[1:22] <GeekDude> I don't have a picam
[1:22] <blockh34d> bummer
[1:23] <GeekDude> ;)
[1:23] <blockh34d> this is just for picam
[1:23] <GeekDude> I'm doing usb
[1:23] <GeekDude> existing hardware and all that
[1:23] <blockh34d> yah that's probably a good way too but at the moment i wasn't planning on using that with this app
[1:23] <blockh34d> maybe i will though
[1:23] <blockh34d> i've just found picam so much nicer than my webcams, no comparison
[1:23] <blockh34d> since i have both, all i use is picam
[1:23] <GeekDude> I've got a high-end logitech one
[1:23] <blockh34d> does it do 1080p at 30fps?
[1:24] <Colsarcol> Hm I dont know where to start with a robot. I know I want raspberry pi with the arduino connector so I can use sheilds
[1:24] <blockh34d> i havent done enough with robots on rpi to be able to say Colsarcol
[1:24] <GeekDude> blockh34d: I'm not actually sure
[1:24] * GeekDude didn't check
[1:24] <Colsarcol> blockh34d, what have you dont?
[1:24] <blockh34d> i have heard of cool arduino based quadrocopter piloting libraries
[1:24] <Colsarcol> done*
[1:24] <blockh34d> maybe that would interest you
[1:25] <blockh34d> well i've made other little simple robots on other platforms
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[1:25] <blockh34d> one was like two wheels stuck together
[1:25] <Colsarcol> Not really intrested in avionics, but thats where I got the pov idea from
[1:25] <blockh34d> had a little remote with two buttons, both down moved forward, both up backward, one/other = turn, etc
[1:25] <Colsarcol> Used arduino for that?
[1:26] <blockh34d> well how that system controls the arduino and then the motors might be good though
[1:26] <blockh34d> no this was long before arduino
[1:26] <blockh34d> late 80s
[1:26] <Colsarcol> Ah long time ago
[1:26] <blockh34d> more lately i've mostly worked on software
[1:26] <blockh34d> maze solvers, vision, etc
[1:27] <Colsarcol> Im about to go to univ next year, was talking to my dad about CS. I want to do software atm, then he suggested PLC so I dont know what I want to do any more XD
[1:27] <blockh34d> i'm gettin ga 3d printer soon, its what i'm doing the app-store process for actualy, and thats when i plan to start making more robots
[1:27] <blockh34d> how about you get into 3d printing
[1:27] <blockh34d> thats a practical usage of robotic technology, its very documented and accessible, and bonus, you can use it to print out robots
[1:27] <blockh34d> you could get a 3d printer for about $500
[1:27] <Colsarcol> :O 3d printer!
[1:28] <blockh34d> pruse i3 6" or 8"
[1:28] <GeekDude> My local university has a 3d printer
[1:28] <Colsarcol> They are really starting to become affordable
[1:28] <GeekDude> I haven't tried it yet, but I'm allowed to
[1:28] <blockh34d> excellent starter printer is what i hear
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[1:28] <blockh34d> i think anyone getting into robotics should have some 3d printing access/skills
[1:28] <blockh34d> it could only help
[1:28] <Colsarcol> ^
[1:28] <Colsarcol> Same with programming
[1:29] <blockh34d> #reprap is a chan about 3dprinting (reprap is the main software people use)
[1:29] <blockh34d> they're very friendly and helpful
[1:29] <Colsarcol> Adding
[1:29] <blockh34d> i agree regarding programming
[1:29] <blockh34d> but i've always found programming to be a super valuable skill in all kinds of other areas
[1:30] <blockh34d> chess and art too, in a kinda unrelated way
[1:30] <Colsarcol> If you dont mind my asking what do you do as a career
[1:30] <blockh34d> those three skills can go far
[1:30] <Colsarcol> Chess is a great game
[1:30] <blockh34d> oh nothing i'm under-employed to the extreme
[1:30] <blockh34d> today was spent drywalling
[1:30] <GeekDude> ooh
[1:30] <Colsarcol> Oh that stuff sucks
[1:30] <GeekDude> I got some newer source files
[1:31] <blockh34d> then i came home and resubmitted my app to the Pi Store for the 15th time
[1:31] <blockh34d> well its not so bad
[1:31] <Colsarcol> The beer keg. one looked cool today
[1:31] <blockh34d> i like to work with my hands and its nice to take a dump and fix it up
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[1:31] <blockh34d> so much of my home town is falling apart
[1:31] <Colsarcol> I didnt mean the labor part, I mow lawns right now. Love it! But I hate drywall Xd
[1:31] <blockh34d> you gotta be pretty crafty to fix it up
[1:31] <GeekDude> the delay seem to be gone-ish
[1:31] <blockh34d> GeekDude: hey great
[1:32] <blockh34d> like i said too, it seemed to vary for me
[1:32] <GeekDude> Note to self: Always get up-to-date source files
[1:32] <blockh34d> like a sort of network lag that disappated over time
[1:32] <blockh34d> yah i love landscaping
[1:32] <Colsarcol> Be back
[1:32] <blockh34d> its so fun
[1:32] <blockh34d> i did a season on a crew and would gladly do it again any time even if i was rich
[1:32] <GeekDude> it yells at me that I don't have tilt controls
[1:32] <Colsarcol> Feels good to take a overgrown lawn and make it look nice
[1:32] <GeekDude> every time I run it
[1:33] <blockh34d> Colsarcol: yah enjoy it while you can robots will take it all over soon
[1:33] <Colsarcol> ^ I actually wanted to make one as a kid to mow my lawn XD
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[1:33] <blockh34d> soon people will be able to 3d print a flying quadropter lawnmower like it was no big deal
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[1:33] <GeekDude> Colsarcol: That sounds terrifying
[1:34] <blockh34d> like amazon's delivery device
[1:34] <Colsarcol> LMAO flying quaddropters to mow lawns... sounds deadly
[1:34] <blockh34d> that demo needed more blood
[1:34] <blockh34d> like fork lift driver klaus
[1:34] <GeekDude> "deliver to xyz coordinate just below the ground
[1:34] <blockh34d> the best industrial safety film of all time btw
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[1:34] <Colsarcol> Oh god did you see the video on amazons packing houses?
[1:34] <Colsarcol> Its nuts the robots they use
[1:34] <blockh34d> i bet, i didn't see that i'll check it out
[1:35] <GeekDude> Did you see the homebrew gps based beer-delivery drone?
[1:35] <blockh34d> i want to make enough quadropters i could give them each a sort of ammo clip of clay and they could 'poop' out a pellet in very precise way, like a 3d printer
[1:35] <blockh34d> haha no thats pretty awesome though
[1:35] <blockh34d> so if you had enough drones they could, in many waves, build up a house or structure like this
[1:36] <Colsarcol> blockh34d, This is the video https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=6KRjuuEVEZs
[1:36] * blockh34d cranks up youtube-dl
[1:36] <blockh34d> a great great app for raspberry pi btw
[1:37] <Colsarcol> haha
[1:37] <blockh34d> i'm going to be providing a gui access to it from my media player gui soon
[1:37] <blockh34d> so it'll be youtube compatible
[1:37] <Colsarcol> Nice!
[1:37] <Colsarcol> That would be sick
[1:37] <Colsarcol> brb in 10
[1:37] <blockh34d> gonna d/l that thanks
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[1:39] <T3CHKOMMIE> hello everyone, I hate to come on here like a n00b and beg for help, but im almost done with my project and I just cant get my fn gpio button to work. can someone help me troubleshoot? i got a DMM and a crap-ton of resitors and wires and my soldering iron is hot... i just dont know wtf im doing :(
[1:40] <ShorTie> like read the topic to start with
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[1:42] <T3CHKOMMIE> ive got a moment button, that seems to have a mind of its own, and im not sure, by reading the code, what the pin should be expecting and if I need a pull up resistor or somethign else.
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[1:43] <SpeccyMan> try debouncing it
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[1:44] <ShorTie> you hook switches up like this EGHS-PullUpDownSwitchProtected.jpg
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[1:47] <blockh34d> shortie is there a link for that?
[1:47] <ShorTie> google.com works
[1:47] <blockh34d> i'd like to know more about debouncing switches, i've heard its a good practice
[1:48] <blockh34d> yah ok. i don't use the browser on this rpi much is why i ask
[1:48] <blockh34d> usually i just use wget
[1:48] <blockh34d> n/m
[1:48] <ShorTie> sorry, just have filename saved and not link
[1:48] <T3CHKOMMIE> ShorTie, so, if I used the pull up config, nothing happens, if i use the pull down config, the button acts like its a long press and shuts down. :(
[1:49] <T3CHKOMMIE> http://elinux.org/File:EGHS-PullUpDownSwitchProtected.jpg
[1:49] <T3CHKOMMIE> blockh34d, ^^^
[1:49] <blockh34d> thanks
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[1:49] <blockh34d> i hate cranking up chromium on this thing heh
[1:49] <T3CHKOMMIE> ya, i like the idea, but not the expereince of chromium.
[1:50] <sysx1000> luakit?
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[1:50] <ShorTie> you using C or python ??
[1:51] <blockh34d> luakit's what i need to try
[1:51] <blockh34d> everyone says it runs like a champ
[1:51] <sysx1000> it's fast
[1:51] <blockh34d> sudo apt-get install luakit?
[1:51] <sysx1000> and looks so modest in comparison with ffox or chromium
[1:51] <T3CHKOMMIE> ShorTie, python, the code on gitup, its just hard for me to read. not how I would have written it.
[1:51] <blockh34d> thats fine i came for the page not the browser
[1:51] <ShorTie> gordonDrogon has some nice stuff at wiringpi.com as examples if C
[1:51] <blockh34d> i wish more browsers were humble in presentation
[1:52] <ShorTie> or, the snake, no idea then really
[1:52] <sysx1000> I use archlinux-arm, here is pacman -S luakit ;) not sure for debian, probably command you've mentioned is correct :-)
[1:52] <blockh34d> what i guessed looks like the trick
[1:52] <ShorTie> oh*
[1:53] <blockh34d> i can never keep the naming conventions straight
[1:53] <blockh34d> like when you put python- infront of what you're looking for etc
[1:54] <blockh34d> hey looks real nice so far
[1:54] <sysx1000> btw, elinks in graphics mode seems to be reasonable replacement for chromium stuff ;)
[1:54] <blockh34d> totally obscure ui, yah!
[1:55] <sysx1000> as for me I am happy with elinks in console ;) heh
[1:55] <blockh34d> i'm all for console apps, especially a nice browser
[1:55] <sysx1000> luakit?
[1:55] <blockh34d> i'm not above lynx heh
[1:55] <blockh34d> well luakit looks graphical here, maybe textmode is an option?
[1:55] <sysx1000> nope
[1:55] <sysx1000> it uses webkit-gtk
[1:56] <blockh34d> sure, looks nice
[1:56] <blockh34d> sometimes i'd like to check the google news site in a text only browser and have it pretty much look the same in layout
[1:56] <sysx1000> so it seems to have all the guts of modern sh..t like chrome or safari ;)
[1:56] <blockh34d> but i think that's asking a lot... in consolemode i mean, not just no-graphics
[1:56] <blockh34d> lynx does a pretty good job though
[1:56] <sysx1000> yep
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[1:57] <blockh34d> my media player is all console mode
[1:57] <blockh34d> but it uses curses so theres still mouse input and a basic UI made of ascii art
[1:57] <blockh34d> that way it uses almost no cpu and it works through TTY (putty/ssh)
[1:58] <blockh34d> my media player +gui+
[1:58] <blockh34d> i didn't write omxplayer lol just made some buttons for it
[1:59] <blockh34d> free copy to anyone that wants, msg me your email addy and i'll send it over. Should be up on pi store tomorrow too as a free app (for now)
[2:01] <T3CHKOMMIE> well, i get a 0 when the switch is open, and a 1 when its pressed. looks like the cicuitry and gpio are working right... i just dont know what the code is doing for "state" of the button
[2:01] <blockh34d> in what, wiring?
[2:02] <blockh34d> its been a while but i can go look it up, its simple i remember that much
[2:02] <T3CHKOMMIE> https://github.com/martinohanlon/pelmetcam/blob/master/pelmetcam.py
[2:02] <T3CHKOMMIE> That is the python script that is ulitmately doing the ticks and button press.
[2:03] <T3CHKOMMIE> it is supposed to work for short press start/stop camera longpress shuts down... but right now, short press 1 does nothing, shortpress 2 shuts down... its almost like they programmed the "debouncing" and my circuit is screwing it up...
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[2:05] <blockh34d> if i'm being honest that arrangement sounds kinda scary to me
[2:05] <blockh34d> why not use another switch?
[2:05] <blockh34d> one button for everything seems ambitious
[2:05] <T3CHKOMMIE> ya, the code is overwhelming, and ive spend years of my life flounding in python
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[2:06] <blockh34d> looks ok to me
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[2:07] <T3CHKOMMIE> aHA!
[2:07] <blockh34d> have you tried adjusting BUTTONSHORTPRESSTICKS and BUTTONLONGPRESSTICKS?
[2:07] <T3CHKOMMIE> i started making the tick counter longer.
[2:07] <T3CHKOMMIE> looks like its WAY more stable now.
[2:07] <blockh34d> thats what those variables are for i think
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[2:08] <blockh34d> also what i like to do is set a minimum pause between button pushes, but specifically i was doing this in a game so a little different
[2:08] <blockh34d> same idea thoguh, just a little quarter second pause before that button can be pushed again
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[2:09] <T3CHKOMMIE> cool.
[2:09] <blockh34d> this looks like a cool project
[2:10] <T3CHKOMMIE> btw gordondrogon's stuff is awesome.
[2:10] <blockh34d> maybe my helmet project will get involved somehow
[2:10] <blockh34d> cool i'll remember that i see him in here pretty often
[2:10] <blockh34d> i eventually want to get to augmented reality realtime video proecessing
[2:10] <T3CHKOMMIE> its really sweet, I have it mounted on my motorcycle. it generates an overlay with gps temp and speed, and i also wrote a google earth KML generator so you can see the tacking on it.
[2:10] <blockh34d> but i think that's going to be a while
[2:11] <blockh34d> sweet
[2:11] <T3CHKOMMIE> once the oculus rift comes out in HD im going to go wild with it.
[2:11] <blockh34d> yah i want something where a basic 3d earth is overlaid onto the video image of whatever i'm looking at
[2:11] <blockh34d> but 3d in wireframe etc, so if it was all dust and smoke i could still get around
[2:12] <blockh34d> eventually i'd like to get realtime 3d scanners involved
[2:12] <T3CHKOMMIE> that'd be cool
[2:12] <blockh34d> like the projector based 3d scanners, or a faster david laserscanner on a sweeper
[2:12] <blockh34d> that way i could navigate in total darkness with no IR
[2:12] <T3CHKOMMIE> there was a sweet project by MITRE for low latency 360 video for tank drivers, it looks JUST like oculus.
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[2:13] <blockh34d> oh sweet yah this is kinda similar idea
[2:13] <blockh34d> i'd love for this helmet to have enough cameras in a ring that they could do a google streetview sort of thing
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[2:13] <T3CHKOMMIE> ya that would be neat.
[2:13] <blockh34d> and then i could keep the cameras ona fixed mount and have the users head move around inside the helmet freely, and recreate their view direction dynamically
[2:14] <blockh34d> also the user could see behind them
[2:14] <blockh34d> which is just cool
[2:14] <T3CHKOMMIE> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vq9zujBnWb8
[2:14] <T3CHKOMMIE> that is my first run on my way home from work.
[2:14] <blockh34d> my DIY character absolute beats arse with this arrangement
[2:14] <blockh34d> but his suit emits smoke screen as well
[2:14] <blockh34d> and small flash bangs flying out in all directions
[2:15] <T3CHKOMMIE> lol
[2:15] <blockh34d> lol
[2:15] <T3CHKOMMIE> sounds like a battle sim ;)
[2:15] <blockh34d> i'm obsessed with this character. I'll stop talking about it because if i don't i just wont
[2:15] <blockh34d> but some day if you hear of a robo ninja named Disco, thats my guy
[2:15] <T3CHKOMMIE> totally understand.
[2:15] <T3CHKOMMIE> ill keep an eye out.
[2:16] <blockh34d> lol maybe i'll troll youtube first, kinda like war of the worlds author
[2:16] <blockh34d> like i'm actually making this stuff and it actually works and maybe i'm bonkers
[2:16] <blockh34d> i think it'd be addictive to watch, you'd feel like you're watching some dudes breakdown or something
[2:17] <T3CHKOMMIE> ya "reality tv"
[2:17] <blockh34d> which is when you bring in the special effects a little bit
[2:17] <blockh34d> just enough to make the viewer feel crazy for not believing in the 'hero'
[2:17] <blockh34d> who is, of course, totally committed
[2:18] <blockh34d> so app names
[2:18] <blockh34d> for remote picam viewer
[2:18] <blockh34d> iSPI
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[2:19] <blockh34d> ? my best guess so far. SPiCam is taken
[2:19] <blockh34d> anyone any other ideas?
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[2:20] <GeekDude> piscam
[2:20] <T3CHKOMMIE> ispy is around too
[2:20] <T3CHKOMMIE> but i think the PI part
[2:20] <GeekDude> PI Cam
[2:20] <blockh34d> i bet ispy is but isPI i think connects to the pi crowd
[2:20] <GeekDude> like IP Cam
[2:21] <blockh34d> cool yah
[2:21] <T3CHKOMMIE> maCPI
[2:21] <GeekDude> httPiCam
[2:21] <blockh34d> maybe PIIP
[2:21] <blockh34d> PI IP Cam?
[2:21] <T3CHKOMMIE> IPCam backeards but its PI cam too
[2:21] <GeekDude> aremaC PI
[2:21] <blockh34d> too bad the second P isn't flipped around
[2:21] <GeekDude> It's IP Camera backwards
[2:21] <T3CHKOMMIE> GeekDude, ^^^ +1
[2:21] <blockh34d> hehe
[2:21] <T3CHKOMMIE> soudns cool to say too
[2:22] <T3CHKOMMIE> aremac pi
[2:22] <T3CHKOMMIE> ftw!
[2:22] <blockh34d> and hey, mac is kinda networky too, like mac address
[2:22] <GeekDude> Air-mac, or are (as in free) mac
[2:22] <blockh34d> hmm all good thoughts
[2:22] <GeekDude> pronunciation...
[2:22] <blockh34d> thanks
[2:23] <T3CHKOMMIE> thanks for the help guys!
[2:23] <blockh34d> yah hey good luck
[2:23] <T3CHKOMMIE> i gotta take wants on my breadbord and turn it into a circuit
[2:23] <blockh34d> sounds like a fun project, post test vids!
[2:23] <T3CHKOMMIE> for sure
[2:23] <T3CHKOMMIE> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vq9zujBnWb8
[2:23] <T3CHKOMMIE> thats my first one, but last night I was up to midnight tweakng the overlay
[2:24] <T3CHKOMMIE> so now I have date/time bearing, temp,speed and alt
[2:24] <T3CHKOMMIE> ;)
[2:24] <T3CHKOMMIE> and i think i got that transparency issue worked out too
[2:24] <blockh34d> oh sweet i'll have to look at how you did that
[2:24] <blockh34d> overlays with picam might be tricky
[2:25] <T3CHKOMMIE> yeah and take a CRAP tone of resources.
[2:25] <blockh34d> since the raspicam/still previews use the openmax layer to display fast
[2:25] <blockh34d> and thats outside the normal apps ability to access
[2:25] <blockh34d> and yah, ton of resources
[2:25] <T3CHKOMMIE> ya i think i had it dropping frames in one of my vids, so i gotta look at resource allocation again.
[2:25] <blockh34d> sweet man
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[2:25] <blockh34d> awesome video
[2:26] <T3CHKOMMIE> thanks
[2:26] <T3CHKOMMIE> later gents, thanks again!
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[2:41] <trohrt> How realistic is android on the raspberry pi?
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[2:46] <trickyhero> I'm pretty sure I saw a youtube video of it running once, it was really slow
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[2:47] <GeekDude> I wasn't aware anyone had gotten it onto pi yet
[2:47] <Colsarcol> Does anyone use the Raspberry Pi to Arduino shields connection bridge
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[2:50] <trohrt> Well with the new broadcom drivers, it seems more realistic, right?
[2:50] <trohrt> I'm not asking for a working port, i'm just curious :P
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[2:55] <AbbyTheRat> I'm going to go and curl up and die.. just been sick
[2:55] <AbbyTheRat> randomly
[2:56] <Colsarcol> That blows man, get better soon
[2:56] <trohrt> yck
[2:56] <trohrt> yuck**
[2:57] <trohrt> i hate sickness
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[3:28] <GeekDude> I have 3 usb devices, and 2 usb ports ¬_¬
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[7:53] <MProg> hi o/
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[8:11] <shiftplusone> "Enter date of birth in DD MMM YYYY format." O_o
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[8:50] <Chetic> Does the pi in any way support detecting power failure? is it possible to read vcc voltage?
[8:51] <shiftplusone> Only with a multimeter.
[8:51] <shiftplusone> (across test points TP1 and TP2)
[8:51] <wallbroken> shiftplusone, which is the best class of SD to use with rPI?
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[8:53] <shiftplusone> wallbroken, I don't think the class itself matters. Some class 4 and 6 cards outperform class 10, for example. The 'official' card is a Samsung class 6 8GB card, but I don't think the choice matters too much, as long as it's a good fit (the current holder is 'meh')
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[8:53] <wallbroken> shiftplusone, SD or microSD?
[8:53] <wallbroken> is the same?
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[8:54] <shiftplusone> doesn't matter
[8:54] <shiftplusone> http://swag.raspberrypi.org/collections/frontpage/products/noobs-8gb-sd-card
[8:55] <wallbroken> it's a samsung?
[8:55] <shiftplusone> yeah
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[8:55] <shiftplusone> full info here http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/5989
[8:57] <sysx1000> Does FreeBSD ARM works with Raspberry Pi?
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[9:00] <shiftplusone> sysx1000, yes
[9:01] <wallbroken> shiftplusone, how long does it works? 2 years?
[9:02] <sysx1000> shiftplusone: I should try again then :)
[9:02] <shiftplusone> wallbroken, sd cards are not that predictable. I don't have that specific card, but all of the ones I bought when the pi came out 2 years ago still work. A few of the kingston ones are cracked around the corners, but still work.
[9:02] <wallbroken> ok
[9:03] <shiftplusone> but there are no shortage of reports of SD card which stop working either, and people who do a lot of development and re-flash the card many times per day end up with stacks of dead cards.
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[9:04] <sysx1000> Well, I have root mounted read-only, and some sort of /home and /var nfs-mounted. I suppose, read-only won't hurt SD memory, as read-write
[9:04] <shiftplusone> yeah
[9:05] <sysx1000> However, one of my SD is used same way, as shiftplusone mentioned: development ;) it's still alive
[9:05] <wallbroken> there are some SD card with larger lifetime
[9:05] <wallbroken> obviously they are very expensive
[9:06] <sysx1000> I think, small USB stick might be a good choice for /home and /var partitions
[9:06] <shiftplusone> I am using a usb stick for everything (apart from /boot) on my main pi.
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[9:07] <wallbroken> usb bus of rPI isn't good
[9:07] <wallbroken> ethernet, usb, are on the same bus
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[9:08] <shiftplusone> My benchmarks showed USB flash being faster than the SD across the board and I don't have a heavy network load, so it doesn't bother me too much.
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[9:21] <ShorTie> so i did a image of of my card, wrote image to another card, boots ok but says read only .. :/~
[9:21] <ShorTie> did i miss sumfin ??
[9:21] <shiftplusone> checked dmesg? you might see "some error, remounting read-only" sort of error there.
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[9:22] <shiftplusone> and did you figure what the mouse issue was about?
[9:23] <ShorTie> nop
[9:23] <shiftplusone> =(
[9:23] <ShorTie> don't really need it, so just unpluged it for the time being
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[9:25] <ShorTie> Filesystem error recorded from previous mount: IO failure
[9:26] <ShorTie> Marking fs in need of filesystem check.
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[9:26] <ShorTie> warning: mounting fs with errors, running e2fsck is recommended
[9:27] <ShorTie> re-mounted. Opts: errors=remount-ro
[9:27] <ShorTie> guess thats all the bad junk, lol.
[9:28] <shiftplusone> when you were dd'ing you didn't get any error? And did you sync afterwards. I've seen people claim that dd doesn't not require sync, but I am not 100% sure.
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[9:29] <ShorTie> no sync afterwards
[9:30] <ShorTie> don't remember any errors
[9:31] <shiftplusone> I would dd again, sync, re-insert the card, fsck from the PC and then try again to be safe. Or it might be worth it to just fsck it and see how it goes.
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[9:34] <ShorTie> dd if=/dev/sda of=/usr/local/src/Basic_Net_Install.img bs=1M
[9:34] <ShorTie> does that look right ??
[9:34] <shiftplusone> yup
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[9:38] <ShorTie> i have a small 2gig sdcard i did the net install on, just trying to get an image of it
[9:39] <ShorTie> blaaa, there is a errorwith dd, dd: reading `/dev/sda': Input/output error
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[9:41] <sysx1000> ShorTie: are you root?
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[9:46] <ShorTie> Yes
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[9:47] <ShorTie> could be this stupid card, it's a micro in an adapater
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[10:23] <ShorTie> ya, must be that sdcard
[10:24] <ShorTie> switched up to a 4gig and win32diskimager made an image of it
[10:24] <ShorTie> trying dd again now
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[10:35] <ShorTie> dd read it fine to, now what just 'sync' ??
[10:36] <Jusii> that's about it
[10:37] <ShorTie> didn't seem to do much, just a blink
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[11:13] <cerberii> hi
[11:14] <cerberii> anyone know why im getting some kind of urb errors
[11:14] <cerberii> with USB camera
[11:14] <cerberii> its not on the 'list', but another guy has tried it and says its working, although with a corrupted/truncated image
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[11:18] <ShorTie> what is a 'urb error' ??
[11:20] <ShorTie> can you get dd to ignore the non-partitioned free space ??
[11:20] <shiftplusone> yup
[11:21] <shiftplusone> (using the right combination of bs and count)
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[11:33] <ShorTie> so if i shrunk / to 1776 in gparted, a count of like 1780 should work ??
[11:34] <shiftplusone> no idea.
[11:35] <ShorTie> ok, trail-n-error time, lol.
[11:35] <shiftplusone> I tend to shrink the image and then dd
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[11:37] * ShorTie scratches his head, what cha mean 'shrink the image' ??
[11:38] <shiftplusone> https://github.com/asb/spindle/blob/master/shrink_image
[11:38] <shiftplusone> the script shrinks the partition, adjusts the partition table accordingly and them chops off the free space
[11:39] <shiftplusone> on line 59, I had to remove the "-cu" to make it work though.
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[11:46] <ShorTie> blaaa, Bad magic number in super-block while trying to open /dev/sda
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[11:50] <ShorTie> so that script makes the image too ??
[11:50] <shiftplusone> no no, it takes an existing image
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[11:51] <shiftplusone> so you dd the full card to disk, shrink the image using that script, and then you have an image you can transfer to a smaller card.
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[12:55] <bel3atar> why can't I type anything in the serial console?
[12:56] <shiftplusone> connected tx to rx and rx to tx properly?
[12:57] <bel3atar> shiftplusone: yes, just like this http://elinux.org/images/1/13/Adafruit-connection.jpg
[12:57] <bel3atar> I get the login prompt and I can't type
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[12:57] <shiftplusone> the cables are not always colour coded the same way, I think the cable's tx wire isn't connected properly
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[13:00] <bel3atar> shiftplusone: here's my adapter http://www.ebay.com/itm/310676792112?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649
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[13:00] * shiftplusone shrugs
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[13:01] <shiftplusone> In any case, it's unlikely to be anything on the pi side. I am very certain it's a connection/adpater problem.
[13:04] <pksato> bel3atar: inter connect RX and TX on adapter (not on RPi) and see if have a echo return.
[13:05] <sysx1000> getty runs on that port?
[13:05] <sysx1000> ;)
[13:05] <bel3atar> no echo
[13:06] <pksato> bel3atar: on terminal emulator, disabel HW flow control.
[13:08] <bel3atar> pksato: how do I do it it minicom?
[13:08] <pksato> and/or enable sw flow control (xon/xoff),
[13:08] <pksato> Yes.
[13:09] <pksato> On Serial port setup
[13:09] <pksato> F to No and G to Yes
[13:10] <pksato> (on my version)
[13:11] <bel3atar> pksato: got echo
[13:11] <pksato> Test if now have a echo.
[13:11] <pksato> good. reconnect to RPi and have fun.
[13:13] <bel3atar> pksato: didn't work
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[13:14] <pksato> but, have a text from RPi?
[13:14] <bel3atar> pksato: yes I can see it bootin and get to the login prompt
[13:15] <pksato> It is a 3v3 dongle?
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[13:15] <bel3atar> pksato: I'm not that good at electronics but here it is http://www.ebay.com/itm/310676792112?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649
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[13:15] <pksato> If is a 5V and connected direct to rpi, input can be damanged.
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[13:17] <pksato> ebay not have info about it is a 3v3 or 5v.
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[13:20] <pksato> disable serial console, unload serial module, and test RX as regular GPIO pin for input.
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[13:23] <bel3atar> I will test it later. I need to get some things done first. Thank you pksato for helping =)
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[14:33] <atrioom> guys, if anybody could help, I posted a question to reddit: http://www.reddit.com/r/raspberry_pi/comments/21l9fj/need_help_finding_problem_with_rpi_in_kiosk_mode/
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[14:36] <IT_Sean> Why don't you paste your question here so people don't have to click on a reddit link to see it, atrioom.
[14:37] <shiftplusone> it's a bit of an essay
[14:38] <pksato> or wait on reddit to some answer.
[14:39] <shiftplusone> atrioom, it's definitely not a heating problem
[14:39] <pksato> disable screen blank function on console and X11 server.
[14:39] <shiftplusone> Hey, could someone pastebin the foundation's image's etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf and /etc/network/interfaces files please?
[14:40] <atrioom> shiftplusone: thanks for counting that out, maybe I save the trip to the store then... Was kind of desperate already
[14:40] <atrioom> pksato: there is something like that? why is it activating?
[14:41] <atrioom> pksato: where can I find the setting?
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[14:41] <pksato> google...
[14:41] <pksato> raspiberri pi forum.
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[14:42] <atrioom> pksato: ok, thanks a bunch though. that's a hot lead :)
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[14:43] <atrioom> pksato: guess that's it: http://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/3238/prevent-screen-from-going-blank-for-kiosk
[14:44] <GeekDude> Oof.
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[14:44] <GeekDude> I've got 3 usb devices, and 2 usb ports
[14:44] <GeekDude> no hub :/
[14:45] <IT_Sean> Buy a hub.
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[14:47] <GeekDude> Any recommendations? I'm running off a two amp power supply, so would a powered hub be necessary as well?
[14:48] <shiftplusone> GeekDude, once the supply is over 1.2A, it doesn't matter, you still need a hub for high power devices.
[14:49] <GeekDude> Hmm. Is there a way I could split the power from the supply to both the hub and the pi?
[14:49] <shiftplusone> yup
[14:51] <GeekDude> Not to be pushy, but could you throw some links my way?
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[14:53] <shiftplusone> Nuh, nothing bookmarked.
[14:54] <GeekDude> okay
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[14:54] <GeekDude> So I'd be looking for some kind of a microusb hub, and a microusb splitter
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[14:55] <shiftplusone> or butcher up your own splitter from spare cables.
[14:55] <GeekDude> Hmm
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[14:58] <IT_Sean> make your own cable. the "splitter" you are looking for will not exist, as it would violate the USB spec.
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[14:58] <IT_Sean> GeekDude ^
[14:58] <GeekDude> hmm
[14:59] <shiftplusone> are you sure the usb hub uses usb for power rather than small dc jack?
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[14:59] <GeekDude> shiftplusone: I'm hoping to find one that does
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[15:04] <GeekDude> How might I configure the raspberry pi to autoconnect to wifi when a wifi dongle is plugged in?
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[15:39] <bel3atar> pksato: I can read input on the port with wiring pi. I guess this means the problem comes from the usb<->serial adapter.
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[15:41] <GeekDude> It's really odd
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[15:42] <GeekDude> at 2fps, there's a 3 second delay between actions, at 3fps, a 2 second delay, and at 5fps, a <1 second delay
[15:42] <SpeedEvil> http://www.dx.com/p/7-digital-lcd-screen-drive-board-hdmi-vga-2av-for-raspberry-pcduino-cubieboard-black-275810
[15:42] <GeekDude> (Using mjpg-streamer)
[15:42] <SpeedEvil> (7" hdmi screen)
[15:43] <SpeedEvil> kit
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[15:48] <pksato> bel3atar: you testing correct pin? or connecting adapter TX to correct RX on pi?
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[15:49] <bel3atar> pksato: I tested both TX and RX pins with wiringpi and I can read input correctly
[15:50] <pksato> bel3atar: you can made a loop test on rpi too. disable console, install minicom (or not), jumper TX and RX and see if have a echo.
[15:50] <bel3atar> pksato: ok
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[15:52] <pksato> and make sure that using correct pins.
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[15:58] <bel3atar> pksato: I just realised that I should invert green and white because the eBay page says green is TX and white is RX
[15:58] <bel3atar> when I do plug them this way I get no output at all
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[15:59] <pksato> adapter TX to RX on rpi, adapter RX to TX of rpi.
[15:59] <bel3atar> pksato: that way I get output but can't send input
[15:59] <shiftplusone> You could also try the echo test on the pi
[15:59] <pksato> to find TX, use a led+RESISTOr.
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[16:00] <smeggysmeg> i'm thinking about getting a pi and i'm wondering if my useage scenario is do-able.
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[16:02] <bel3atar> is anybody having success using a PL2303HX based usb<->serial adapter?
[16:03] <Vutral> smeggysmeg, which is ?
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[16:04] <pksato> bel3atar: if echo test work on PL2303HX and on RPi. have some wrong on you wiring.
[16:09] <smeggysmeg> i'm wanting the pi to: be a file server connected to an external drive, hosting home files and multimedia for upnp, smb, ftp; to be an ssh server on my home network. i know it can't be a plex server, but do you think my desktop could be the plex server and access the pi's files via smb? this would only be for streaming when not home.
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[16:10] <smeggysmeg> i have a shiny new htpc for tv/web/Steam playback, but i would really like to leave my desktop pc turned off and still have access to media. i can WOL my desktop if i wanted its plex functionality in an unplanned circumstance.
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[16:11] <bel3atar> pksato: I found that they have connected the red pin to the 3.3V out of the pi http://putokaz.wordpress.com/2013/03/12/raspberry-pi-rs232-serial-interface-options-revisit/
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[16:13] <smeggysmeg> i can do WOL from my router (dd-wrt). would there be a way to WOL my desktop from the pi?
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[16:14] <bel3atar> smeggysmeg: yes. pi runs linux
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[16:39] <smeggysmeg> so it looks like pidora isn't being actively supported, anymore. i'm a regular fedora user now with a history of using redhat/suse - will raspbian have a steep learning curve?
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[16:46] <biberao> hi
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[16:47] <biberao> anyone running squeezeplug?
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[17:11] <rahul_> Hii all
[17:11] <rahul_> I have an old laptop can i use it screen with my Rpi
[17:11] <rahul_> ?
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[17:12] <IT_Sean> rahul_: generally, no. The LCDs in laptops do not "speak" the same 'video language' as your raspi.
[17:12] <IT_Sean> You need a display with a composite or HDMI input.
[17:13] <rahul_> IT_Sean: Can't we make use of it?
[17:14] <IT_Sean> rahul_: Only if you have another of the SAME make and model laptop that needs an LCD screen.
[17:15] <IT_Sean> Basically, no... you cannot use that LCD panel with your raspi.
[17:17] <rahul_> ahh :(
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[17:59] <cyclick> How does a rpi compare to a nexus4 for cpu/video benchmark?
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[18:01] <gordonDrogon> What Ho, good Pi people!
[18:03] <SpeedEvil> cyclick: Broadly - a word that cannot be posted in this channel, as it is family friendly.
[18:03] <SpeedEvil> (if you are meaning pure X, which is unaccellerated)
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[18:08] * gordonDrogon would like to think that video was about the same, but ARM cpu would be poorer on the Pi compared to the N4, (1 core on the Pi vs. 2 core on the N4 for a start, plus more RAM)
[18:09] <geordie> good morning #raspberrypi
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[18:15] <gordonDrogon> it's well after morning here ...
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[18:24] <pksato> rahul_: about lcd panel from notebook. Is possible to use, but need to buy a proper display controller ($40 on ebay).
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[18:26] <geordie> gordonDrogon: yeah that makes sense!?
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[18:26] <geordie> good morning|evening|night
[18:27] <geordie> ;)
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[18:27] <gordonDrogon> it's always lunchtime somewhere on the planet...
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[18:28] <gordonDrogon> so, good time of day to you :)
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[18:33] <SpeedEvil> gordonDrogon: I'm not sure that's true
[18:33] <SpeedEvil> gordonDrogon: At least in summer, I think there are no places in GMT-3:30
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[18:41] <gordonDrogon> depends on your interpretation of lunchtime...
[18:41] <gordonDrogon> Time is an illusion. Lunchtime doubly so.
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[18:58] <SpeedEvil> On a related topic, I am enjoying a free lunch. (well, dinner)
[18:58] <SpeedEvil> I orderd 15kg of pork from ASDA - they billed me for 3kg, and delivered all 15.
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[19:06] <geordie> anyone have a reccomendation for a cli ftp client?
[19:06] <SpeedEvil> ncftp
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[19:08] <geordie> thanks SpeedEvil
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[19:12] <somedude> is there a raspberry pi software emulator i can use to try it out while i wait for the board in the mail
[19:13] <[SLB]> how about a light weight good graphical diff program? i use meld on desktop but it's asking for 90mb of deps on the pi
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[19:15] <GeekDude> somedude: Yeah, but it's pretty bad iirc
[19:16] <GeekDude> You should probably go with a generic x86 debian VM if you wanna play around for a few days
[19:17] <IT_Sean> ^ that
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[19:31] <AbbyTheRat> I know the pi is shutdown when 2 of the left goes, right?
[19:31] <AbbyTheRat> 2 of the lights*
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[19:32] <ShorTie> when no more blinking happens, it's shutdown
[19:32] <AbbyTheRat> hmm
[19:32] <IT_Sean> when ACT is off, pi is shutdown, AbbyTheRat
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[19:32] <AbbyTheRat> then it's taking a while for the pi to shutdown then >_>
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[19:32] <ShorTie> it takes a few
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[19:33] <ShorTie> you will loose the screen and it will still blink (act link) a few times
[19:34] <ShorTie> link = light
[19:34] <gordonDrogon> the ACT light actually blinks 10 times, but at the first blink it's shut down.
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[19:37] <azeirah> Hi guys
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[19:37] <azeirah> Does anybody in here know how to connect this http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=301075696467&ssPageName=ADME:L:OU:US:1120 screen to a raspberry pi?
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[19:40] <IT_Sean> Does that screen have composite or HDMI inputs?
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[19:41] <ppq> i think it has a SPI interface
[19:41] <IT_Sean> ahh
[19:41] <azeirah> you're correct ppq, it's SPI
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[19:41] <gordonDrogon> It's SPI. wow.
[19:41] <azeirah> there's a pin configuration on the ebay page
[19:41] <gordonDrogon> maybe the adafruit driver will work...
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[19:42] <ShorTie> you can get a 4.3" for about the same price that hooks into the composite video out
[19:42] <ppq> yes, there are lots of noname SPI displays for the pi out there without further docs, they must be generic in a way
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[19:44] <azeirah> Well, I got this one now, so I'd like to try to set it up
[19:47] <azeirah> So does anybody have an idea what I can do with that screen?
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[19:49] <azeirah> Most importantly, I need to know how to connect it to my raspberry
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[19:51] <gordonDrogon> azeirah, you *need* to know... sure - so why not contact the person you bought it from and ask them.
[19:51] <azeirah> Yeah, I was looking up the contact, I'll do that
[19:52] <azeirah> was just wondering if someone in here had something similar and knew how to do it
[19:53] <gordonDrogon> Personally, I'd not buy anything unless I knew what I was buying - I'd not touch that with a bargepole unless they were offering drivers, etc.
[19:53] <gordonDrogon> You will need kernel drivers/modules to use it as a display device with the Pi.
[19:53] <gordonDrogon> It *may* be compatible with the Adafruit one, but they don't mention that.
[19:53] <gordonDrogon> I'd look for one with composite video or hdmi if all you want is a display for the Pi.
[19:54] <gordonDrogon> with this one you will have to load kernel modules, you might even have to recompile the kernel or get a special kernel to use it. That's great if you're up to it.
[19:54] <azeirah> Sounds like fun
[19:55] <gordonDrogon> That ones doesn't have a Pi GPIO connector on it.
[19:55] <gordonDrogon> That is not designed to be used with the Pi no matter what they claim. It may work with the Pi - it has SPI afterall, but who knows...
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[19:55] <azeirah> hmm
[19:56] <azeirah> There's this other ebay page, which offers a screen which looks *exactly* the same, pin config (heck, the whole message body) is the same too.
[19:56] <azeirah> http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-2-Touch-Screen-Display-Monitor-TFT-for-Raspberry-Pi-240x320-RGB-Pixels-New/321348638668?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D21235%26meid%3D5809811689494723048%26pid%3D100005%26prg%3D9374%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D301075696467&rt=nc
[19:57] <azeirah> It has some linked documents
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[20:00] <azeirah> It has two different linked documents, one is software mztx06a on github, the other one is a zip folder with a .img file and a picture of the connection
[20:00] <azeirah> I think I can make this work, if this is the same screen
[20:00] <azeirah> Would be really awesome ;>
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[20:03] <gordonDrogon> or you could just buy something from a reputable dealier that you know will work.
[20:04] <gordonDrogon> e.g. http://www.adafruit.com/products/1601
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[20:04] <gordonDrogon> no "would be" about that, as it's already awesome.
[20:05] <gordonDrogon> buy hey - who am I to spoil your ebay and subsequeny DIY experience...
[20:05] <azeirah> I could've, but I'm a poor idiot naive student, so I'm kinda stuck with this one ;p
[20:05] <azeirah> Beside, it might be educational to find out how this one works
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[20:07] <gordonDrogon> it might be.
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[20:08] <azeirah> might.
[20:08] <ppq> linux has framebuffer drivers for loads of different displays, including SPI ones. try to find out what exactly you have in your hands, then google the name and if you're lucky you only need to recompile the kernel with some modules enabled
[20:08] <pksato> asked seller about documentation of this lcd?
[20:09] <azeirah> Not yet pksato
[20:10] <ShorTie> might help to see if you can see any #'s on the chips
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[20:12] <azeirah> I can't see any numbers on the chips. There is some text on the orange film though. I don't think it's of any significance, it doesn't look like part numbers or anything
[20:13] <azeirah> I just contacted the shipper, hope he has something on this screen
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[20:14] <ShorTie> he may not have anything more then 2 links
[20:15] <ShorTie> as long as those git drivers work, you most likely have all you need
[20:15] <azeirah> I expect that those other two documents will work fine
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[20:16] <pksato> https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1419380698/connect-your-hd-camcorder-to-your-raspberry-pi
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[20:19] <pksato> using display from old camcorder http://www.experimentalistsanonymous.com/ve3wwg/doku.php?id=rpi_hitachi_lcd
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[20:21] <ShorTie> cool little board
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[20:26] <ShorTie> wonder why it's put on hold
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[20:30] <azeirah> Oh man, this is exciting. I have light on my little display
[20:31] <azeirah> It's not showing anything yet, but it's something ;p
[20:31] <IT_Sean> the backlight being on generally just means it's getting power
[20:31] <IT_Sean> now, you need to get data to it.
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[21:46] <[SLB]> is there any tool to test ram integrity? i'm not sure what's the problem, i hope it's not hardware. a while after every reboot, the pi starts spitting lines like error pid:9096, boost::interprocess::bad_alloc
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[21:47] <[SLB]> they come out after each command i give, regardless the command
[21:49] <pksato> [SLB]: memtester
[21:49] <[SLB]> thanks, let's see
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[21:55] <[SLB]> i get this output http://pastebin.com/Gz1aarQY i assume it's alright then?
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[21:57] <[SLB]> hm, only 65536 bytes of test, not sure
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[22:00] <[SLB]> i reboot with a different mem split and try again
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[22:08] <ib1s> noob here, can anyone explain why it's necessary to dd the sd card rather than just copying the files on?
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[22:30] <SiC> [21:08:55] <ib1s> noob here, can anyone explain why it's necessary to dd the sd card rather than just copying the files on? <- you have to create the correct disk structure
[22:30] <SiC> the boot section is fairly critical
[22:30] <SiC> plus its easier to dd anyway
[22:31] <ShorTie> you have to dd an image, but there are a couple boot loaders that you can just copy to it
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[22:51] <linguini> Wordpress on my pi was quite slow, but today I setup octopress, and it works nicely.
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[22:53] <rikkib> Wordpress has to be the most exploitable software on the planet.
[22:54] <linguini> rikkib: I guess if I want my pi to help out in some important DDOS, I should install WP again...
[22:56] <Squarepy> linguini, so is octopress php?
[22:56] <linguini> Squarepy: octopress is powered by jekyll, which is ruby, I believe. It generates static sites.
[22:57] <linguini> (hence, the fastness)
[22:57] <rikkib> hackers broke into my OS Commerce web site... I made them sorry they did. http://krebsonsecurity.com/2011/01/battling-the-zombie-web-site-armies/#more-7522
[22:57] <Squarepy> +1 for ruby
[22:58] <rikkib> For over a year I harvested all their data and passed it on to Vint Cerf for the google security team and others.
[22:58] <Squarepy> rikkib, interesting tell me more
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[22:59] <rikkib> I hacked the s/w they loaded and join the zombie bot net.
[23:00] <rikkib> I then identified many of the hacking gang by name
[23:00] <rikkib> And of course Vint is a very powerful man
[23:00] <rikkib> with much resources at his disposal
[23:01] <Squarepy> so are you the bennett guy?
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[23:01] <rikkib> Yep
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[23:01] <Squarepy> nice
[23:01] <rikkib> Nasty anit spammer
[23:01] <rikkib> anti
[23:02] <rikkib> I used to track and trace spammers
[23:02] <rikkib> many conquests
[23:03] <Squarepy> so how did you backtrack this one?
[23:03] <rikkib> I outed the Atkinson brothers NZ spammers
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[23:04] <rikkib> Usually track them from info they leave behind
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[23:04] <Squarepy> k
[23:05] <rikkib> Perseverance
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[23:06] <Squarepy> so a port and an ip f.i.
[23:06] <rikkib> In the case of Pill spammers Shane and Lance Atkinson I got them from an old domain name reg that Shane left behind
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[23:07] <rikkib> I knew there was a NZ angle on the enlargement spam I was getting in the early 2000's
[23:07] <rikkib> The language used
[23:07] <rikkib> When I noted the old domain in his name I knew I had him...
[23:08] <Squarepy> aha, so you really investigate
[23:08] <rikkib> A local journo picked up the story when I posted his details on Usenet.
[23:09] <rikkib> The rest is history
[23:09] <rikkib> Both bothers ran foul of the law subsequently
[23:10] <Squarepy> indeed I am reading the wiki,
[23:10] <rikkib> I used to taint them via email and wind them up.
[23:10] <Squarepy> "Well, it wasn�t me, mate. We have closed all that down years ago."
[23:10] <rikkib> Tell them what ICANN and Vint were going to do to them
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[23:11] <rikkib> In those days I could have ICANN close domains pdq
[23:11] <Squarepy> that's early 2000?
[23:12] <ShorTie> interesting rikkib, good work
[23:12] <rikkib> Yep
[23:12] <rikkib> I started in 1997 or so
[23:12] <rikkib> tracked Ruslan the first bot master
[23:13] <rikkib> and named him
[23:13] <rikkib> Send Safe
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[23:13] <rikkib> Think he is still operating
[23:13] <rikkib> Think he still has a current spamhaus profile
[23:14] <Squarepy> ah spamhaus
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[23:14] <Squarepy> they got a lot of press last summer I think
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[23:15] <rikkib> http://www.spamhaus.org/rokso/spammer/SPM672/ruslan-ibragimov-send-safe.com
[23:16] <Squarepy> so these guys really build a career
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[23:17] <rikkib> In the late 90's spammers attacked my server and knocked NZ off the air for a short time.
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[23:18] <rikkib> The spammers attacked my server and a local block list... I had a certain level of anonymity and the authority never worked out why my server was attacked
[23:19] <johnc-> anybody knowledgeable about bluetooth on rpi/linux?
[23:19] <rikkib> Once a spammer always a spammer is the saying
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[23:21] <rikkib> Limited knowledge on blue tooth here. I have stuff but never done much with it other than run the demo stuff (2 Ericsson devel boards)
[23:22] <johnc-> managed to make it do what I want
[23:22] <rikkib> I run up a blue tooth dongle from guides on the net a couple of weeks ago.... Seemed fairly straight forward.
[23:23] <Squarepy> rikkib, so any hope for anit-spamming, as they seem to recover so fast
[23:24] <rikkib> It is a one step behind game now days... I use sendmail and spamhuas sbl... I don't see any spam now days.
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[23:25] <rikkib> and I have full control of my resources on fixed ip adsl
[23:25] <rikkib> not great bandwidth but all that is mine is mine.
[23:25] <rikkib> My net my rules
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[23:26] <blockh34d> hi
[23:26] <Squarepy> sure, but in general the fall of one botnet seems to give rise to another
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[23:26] <rikkib> Hola
[23:27] <rikkib> The auths are getting better at shutting them down
[23:27] <blockh34d> anyone mind helping me try something? I got a rpi app i cobbled together, works great for me, everytime... but the pi store tester assigned to checking it out keeps having problems
[23:27] <blockh34d> i can't figure if its me or them, maybe someone could try this app out, see if it works for them? its a gui for omxplayer
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[23:28] <Squarepy> thanks for the interesting story rikkib , cheers
[23:28] <johnc-> bluez-test-adapter discoverable on
[23:28] <johnc-> feels like there should be a better way to enable that :/
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[23:29] <blockh34d> i used to love bluetooth but now i kinda dont like it as much
[23:29] <rikkib> I have many stories that will never be told...
[23:29] <blockh34d> i guess its kinda good for audio
[23:30] <blockh34d> but keyboard / mouse its sooooo laggy and slow to wake up
[23:30] <Gadgetoid> But audio is already wireless?
[23:30] <rikkib> I am using nRF24 modules for the RPi
[23:30] <blockh34d> i use rf wireless mouse/kb for rpi and like it much more than the bluetooth kb/mouse i tried at first
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[23:30] <blockh34d> i got them working but it was always very slow
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[23:31] <blockh34d> but its just slow, not rpi's fault. its slow on windows too
[23:31] <rikkib> Current project with a MC9S08 low power 8 bit micro with I2C compass module talking back to a RPi with nRF24
[23:32] <johnc-> I'm just using the bt radios for some proximity stuff
[23:32] <blockh34d> is nRF24 a general serial data transfer over RF device?
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[23:33] <rikkib> RPi -> SPI -> nRF24 <-----> nRF24 -> SPI -> S08 micro
[23:33] <blockh34d> ugh wish i could figure out this problem with python/curses
[23:33] <rikkib> Shock Burst
[23:34] <rikkib> does 32 bytes in a hit.
[23:34] <rikkib> RTT 30mS
[23:34] <rikkib> Rpund trip time
[23:34] <blockh34d> my app uses curses to make ascii-art interface, so like any curses app it has to restore stdout on exit... which it does, fine, until some people (tester) try it and when they exit, their stdout is not restored so it looks like their system just hung
[23:34] <blockh34d> thats pretty good time
[23:35] <blockh34d> 30+ fps
[23:35] <blockh34d> good enough for 90s video games
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[23:36] <blockh34d> PEBKAC is my default diagnosis for most computer problems
[23:36] <blockh34d> prognosis: NEGATIVE
[23:37] <rikkib> Hmm that sounds like a tricky issue with stdout
[23:37] <blockh34d> any idea anything that would mess that up?
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[23:37] <blockh34d> i wrap my main app in a try/except dealy that should handle that in any situation
[23:37] <rikkib> flush and close?
[23:37] <blockh34d> like even if the apocalypse comes and its screwed up my app, stdout should still get restored
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[23:37] <blockh34d> no when a terminals stdout is mucked its a one way street
[23:37] <blockh34d> i dunno how to bring it back but to open a new terminal
[23:38] <blockh34d> maybe theres a way?
[23:38] <blockh34d> i don't know it
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[23:38] <rikkib> I am not expert on stdout/in
[23:38] <blockh34d> well if you're feeling brave and want a copy, msg me an email address and i'll send you the install zip
[23:38] <blockh34d> it should work fabulous
[23:39] <blockh34d> except when it totally fails
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[23:39] <rikkib> From memory you have to reassign
[23:39] <blockh34d> like microsoft products
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[23:40] <rikkib> I have daemon code that works with stdin/stdout
[23:41] <blockh34d> yah i'm used to trapping it in a STringIO() object
[23:41] <blockh34d> and thats generally gone just fine
[23:41] <blockh34d> but curses is giving me spit!
[23:41] <rikkib> I use c mostly.
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[23:42] <blockh34d> its starting to sound like a better choice here
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[23:42] <blockh34d> not liek curses is that much different in any language
[23:43] <blockh34d> and i'm just calling omxplayer creatively, mayhbe i'll recode in c someday
[23:44] <johnc-> I started writing an API to omxplayer, compiled as a library
[23:44] <johnc-> it's nice :)
[23:45] <blockh34d> nice
[23:45] <blockh34d> yah omxplayer is only way to go on rpi imo
[23:45] <blockh34d> all else fails
[23:45] <blockh34d> i dunno why thye don't add the little bit more it'd take to make omxplayer a viable media player
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[23:46] <blockh34d> my app has a progress bar with clicakable seek, a playlist with random, and a clickable way to toggle audio streams
[23:46] <blockh34d> and a fullscreen toggle, of course
[23:46] <johnc-> because it was only really made as a test app for openmax support on the pi for whatever that media frontend is called
[23:46] <blockh34d> openmax, you got it
[23:47] <blockh34d> yah cause they kept it simple, it works
[23:47] <blockh34d> thats why i used curses and text mode for output
[23:47] <blockh34d> my ui has typically a 0.3% overhead
[23:47] <johnc-> I wrote an API interface to it so I could use a custom IO callback
[23:47] <blockh34d> maybe you'd like to try my app out, give you some ideas?
[23:47] <johnc-> I have ideas coming outta my ass, heh
[23:48] <blockh34d> i'd appreciate knowing if it works, theres kind of an issue my tester keeps getting but i don't
[23:48] <blockh34d> its holding up my apps submission to ap store (two weeks now on one thing or another)
[23:48] <rikkib> Standard daemon apps close stdin/out and dup() them to dev null
[23:48] <johnc-> ping me on monday and I may have time
[23:48] <blockh34d> and its really frustrating cause i'm just trying to get to a place wher ei can say 'hey dad, go install this thing from the rpi store and you will be able to play hd movies)
[23:48] <johnc-> I'm about to watch a Marvel marathon so I'm ready for Cap America 2 :D
[23:49] <blockh34d> nah if this isn't solved by tomorrow i'm jumping off a cliff
[23:49] <blockh34d> its holding up other things i'm trying to accomplish because it keeps feeling like 'oh its almost sorted, just another day maybe)
[23:49] <rikkib> Now now
[23:49] <blockh34d> lol j/k of course but its maddening
[23:50] <blockh34d> the app tester has some strange version of pexpect installed i can't even find
[23:50] <blockh34d> 3.1 when pip installs 2.4!
[23:50] <blockh34d> wtf? i have no idea where to even get that
[23:51] * johnc- fist pumps the air
[23:51] <blockh34d> well i just thought i'd see if i could round up a tester
[23:51] <blockh34d> thanks anyways
[23:51] <johnc-> chrome extension to play youtube videos from chrome on my rpi :D
[23:51] <blockh34d> my app will play youtube videos very soon
[23:52] <blockh34d> but not in chrome
[23:52] <johnc-> youtube-dl is nice
[23:52] <blockh34d> ya thats all it'll be using probably
[23:52] <blockh34d> but it'll automate the whole thing
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[23:52] <blockh34d> my goal with the app is to remove all typing as necessary from watching a movie
[23:53] <blockh34d> should just be click click click
[23:53] <johnc-> ah, that's nice
[23:53] <johnc-> I can do that from my phone, and soon my windows pc
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[23:53] <johnc-> right click -> stream to device
[23:53] <blockh34d> oh thats cool
[23:53] <blockh34d> yah as is i use putty to control my media player
[23:54] <johnc-> I'm getting annoyed with android though
[23:54] <blockh34d> so it gives me the playlist on screen and can control playback/whats up next etc
[23:54] <johnc-> I have added streaming support to the "share" menu thing it gives you in the gallery
[23:54] <johnc-> but when it's done streaming it crashes the gallery app :/
[23:54] <blockh34d> if its got a ssh client it could probably run scamp pretty well (my app)
[23:54] <johnc-> so you're sending key presses to omxplayer?
[23:54] <blockh34d> yah
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[23:54] <blockh34d> and pexpecting it
[23:55] <blockh34d> so i keep killing it off, starting a new one, at different positions etc
[23:55] <blockh34d> for seek bar etc
[23:55] <johnc-> ouch
[23:55] <blockh34d> yah its rough what you gotta do to get some performance outta rpi
[23:55] <blockh34d> but in the end it works out like a sort of basic vlc
[23:55] <blockh34d> which is really all i wanted
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[23:56] <blockh34d> i keep my media on a windows machine, access it via samba share and can have all of it in one playlist with command 'play' called from root dir of media archives
[23:57] <blockh34d> cues up about 2 weeks worth of playback in about 10 seconsd, shuffles and goes... good enough for me :)
[23:58] <blockh34d> streaming sounds cool too though, the way you describe
[23:58] <johnc-> I stream just about all content to my pi
[23:59] <johnc-> unified API that way, I can use it to stream webcams, VLC feeds (which is super cool), youtube, NAS files, you name it

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