#raspberrypi IRC Log


IRC Log for 2014-03-31

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[0:10] <hetOrakel> hi i have a pie with an huawei 3G dongle K3765. This works but the pi won't booot when the dongle is connected
[0:11] <CDR`> maybe your power supply can't power both - Pi and dongle. Have you tried plugging your dongle into a powered USB hub and plugging the USB hub into the pi?
[0:11] <hetOrakel> When i plug in the dongle after booting it works. There are kernel errors. These errors cause the "hang".
[0:11] <hetOrakel> huawei is powered by a powered hub
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[0:12] <CDR`> Don't plug it in after booting maybe?
[0:12] <hetOrakel> huh? don't get what you mean....
[0:13] <CDR`> you boot your rPi then plug the dongle in?
[0:13] <CDR`> Can't you plug the dongle in then boot rPi?
[0:13] <hetOrakel> aha that's exactly the problem
[0:14] <CDR`> it doesn't boot when the dongle is in the powered hub?
[0:14] <hetOrakel> when i boot the pi and wait until i can ssh and plug in the huawei after that it works
[0:14] <hetOrakel> when i then take away the power and reboot the exact same config it's hanging with an error
[0:15] <CDR`> take away the power?
[0:15] <hetOrakel> pull the power cord...
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[0:23] <cygnae> ok now
[0:23] <cygnae> i'll brb
[0:23] <cygnae> gonna check if appletv works with the pi
[0:23] <cygnae> :)
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[0:24] <Syliss> in what way?
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[0:28] <hetOrakel> basicly the problem is: pi whithout huawei connected is booting. When i plug in the huawei after booting it works. When i boot the pi with the huawei plugged in it won't boot. The huawei is connected througd a powered usb hub
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[0:41] <cygnae> ladies and gentlemen, it works!
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[0:43] <cygnae> [SLB] what do I do with the tgz you gave me, friend?
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[0:44] <[SLB]> in the cpuinfo.js file you configure the port which you want it to listen on
[0:45] <cygnae> hmm
[0:45] <cygnae> so
[0:45] <cygnae> do I double click on the .tgz file or...
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[0:45] <[SLB]> then provided you have installed nodejs, you run it with nodejs cpuinfo.js
[0:45] <[SLB]> yes sorry
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[0:45] <[SLB]> you extract it somewhere under your webserver folder
[0:46] <[SLB]> you can create a subfolder for it
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[0:46] <[SLB]> i remember now it was quite a trouble to make it start but i don't remember well what i needed more, but it should include everything
[0:46] <cygnae> where... where is my webserver folder?? and what's nodejs and, do I have a webserver?
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[0:47] <[SLB]> i thought it was a webserver earlier when we were trying your url, hm
[0:47] <[SLB]> well first install nodejs from the repos
[0:48] <[SLB]> you have raspbian?
[0:48] <cygnae> that would be..... apt-get install nodejs ?
[0:48] <[SLB]> yes
[0:48] <cygnae> installing stuff...
[0:48] <[SLB]> and extract those files under /var/www/
[0:48] <cygnae> am I installing java for the pi?
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[0:49] <[SLB]> no
[0:49] <cygnae> I don't have a www folder in /var
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[0:49] <[SLB]> you also need a webserver then
[0:49] <[SLB]> i use lighttpd
[0:49] <[SLB]> or apache if you prefer
[0:49] <[SLB]> or others i haven't tried
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[0:50] <cygnae> I have zero clue so i'm just gonna go with your choice
[0:50] <[SLB]> okie eheh
[0:50] <cygnae> apt-get
[0:50] <cygnae> i'm a freaking specialist in apt-get
[0:50] <[SLB]> yes install lighttpd
[0:50] <cygnae> isn't all this stuff being installed gonna slow my rpi down?
[0:50] <cygnae> I see *a lot* of stuff being installed
[0:51] <[SLB]> that takes space up, ram will be used by each service running
[0:51] <cygnae> i'm freaking awesome, I have a www folder now.
[0:52] <[SLB]> eheh ok extract those files in there
[0:52] <cygnae> pop quiz hot shot... how do I do that? mwahahaha
[0:53] <[SLB]> sudo tar xvzf stats.tgz
[0:53] <cygnae> why people keep telling me to sudo stuff? are they not in root?
[0:53] <[SLB]> you shouldn't be in root either :3 security first eheh
[0:54] <cygnae> ....we're gonna leave THAT bunch of questions for after this.
[0:54] <cygnae> holy crap it was a billion of stuff with that command
[0:54] <[SLB]> showing the content of the archive
[0:55] <cygnae> cpuinfo.js
[0:55] <[SLB]> yes, default is on port 7000
[0:55] <cygnae> 7010 then
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[0:55] <cygnae> yessss I can nano to stuff
[0:55] <cygnae> I also know what top does mwahaha
[0:55] <[SLB]> lol
[0:56] <cygnae> so yeah. var port=7010
[0:56] <[SLB]> see if nodejs ./cpuinfo.js & works without complaints
[0:57] <cygnae> root@pi:/var/www# nodejs ./cpuinfo.js
[0:57] <cygnae> cpuinfo @ 7010
[0:57] <cygnae> it just stays there
[0:57] <[SLB]> try to go to your raspiIP:7010
[0:57] <cygnae> Oops! Google Chrome could not connect to
[0:58] <[SLB]> hm
[0:58] <cygnae> I don't get another prompt or anything
[0:58] <cygnae> do I ctrl+c?
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[0:58] <[SLB]> you forgot the & but this is only for the prompt, will see why chrome complains
[0:59] <[SLB]> yes ^C for now
[0:59] <cygnae> so ctrl+c then &
[0:59] <[SLB]> maybe it's a matter of paths
[0:59] <cygnae> root@pi:/var/www# nodejs ./cpuinfo.js &
[0:59] <cygnae> [1] 3249
[0:59] <cygnae> root@pi:/var/www# cpuinfo @ 7010
[1:00] <cygnae> I opened 7071 to the world now
[1:00] <[SLB]> let me check whether the files must go in some precise folder, or maybe there's a path in the files
[1:00] <cygnae> if you feel like trying it out
[1:00] <[Saint]> ...why are you root?
[1:00] <[SLB]> yeap not working, let's see
[1:00] <cygnae> see? people always ask that!
[1:00] <[SLB]> lol
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[1:01] <[Saint]> There's no good reason to ever log in as root, really.
[1:01] <[Saint]> Well, very, very few.
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[1:01] <[Saint]> Create a new user and nuke the root password.
[1:01] <cygnae> well.. if you take into account that it took me a good hour to figure out how to change the password... creating a new user would break me.
[1:02] <[Saint]> "useradd username"
[1:02] <cygnae> you lost me at " (j/k)
[1:02] <[SLB]> okie edit cpuinfo.js
[1:02] <[SLB]> line 66
[1:02] <cygnae> but... all my cool login stuff will be gone!
[1:02] <cygnae> editing...
[1:02] <[SLB]> just leave /var/www/ there
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[1:03] <cygnae> eh... how do I see where are the lines?
[1:03] <cygnae> there must be a command, I'm sick of counting one by one
[1:03] <[SLB]> hm i use vim, not sure in nano, scroll down about second half
[1:03] <[SLB]> you can catch it by eye it's not many lines
[1:04] <[Saint]> Seriously, though. I would advise not being root 24/7.
[1:04] <[Saint]> There's no reason for it. Give yourself as few permissions as necessary.
[1:05] <[Saint]> This vastly limits how badly you can break things.
[1:05] <cygnae> if (uri.pathname.indexOf( ?
[1:05] <[SLB]> '/var/www/') === 0) {
[1:05] <cygnae> [SLB] everything is catching fire!
[1:06] <cygnae> [Saint] ima make me an account then >_>
[1:06] <[SLB]> and then about the end var filename = path.join(__dirname, './monitor', uri.pathname); delete monitor
[1:06] <[SLB]> lol
[1:06] <[SLB]> there's already a non root account, name pi eheh
[1:07] <cygnae> I can check the line now, which one is it
[1:07] <[SLB]> you fixed 66?
[1:07] <cygnae> si
[1:07] <cygnae> ehhh
[1:07] <cygnae> yes
[1:07] <[SLB]> 113
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[1:08] <cygnae> just leave './', ?
[1:08] <[SLB]> yes
[1:08] <cygnae> nope, still nothing [SLB]
[1:08] <cygnae> Error: listen EADDRINUSE
[1:09] <[SLB]> you have to kill the other process you ran earlier
[1:09] <[SLB]> i believe
[1:09] <[SLB]> killall nodejs
[1:09] <cygnae> [Saint] I added the user but can't login... I have no password.
[1:09] <cygnae> I don't have killall, I have killall5
[1:09] <[SLB]> :o
[1:10] <[SLB]> are you sure
[1:10] <cygnae> -bash: killall: command not found
[1:10] <cygnae> root@pi:/var/www#
[1:10] <[SLB]> weird
[1:10] <[SLB]> pgrep nodejs
[1:10] <cygnae> 3249
[1:10] <[SLB]> kill -9 3249
[1:10] <cygnae> I use kill
[1:10] <[SLB]> yea
[1:10] <cygnae> what's the -9 for
[1:11] <[SLB]> i always forget, sigkill i think or sigterm
[1:11] <[SLB]> sometimes default kill doesn't really kill
[1:12] <[SLB]> but it should've worked for nodejs
[1:12] <[SLB]> try again to run the thingy
[1:12] <cygnae> i don't have sigthings
[1:12] <[SLB]> hm did nodejs cpuinfo.js work?
[1:13] <cygnae> ok fsck this i'm rebooting
[1:15] <cygnae> stays the same
[1:15] <cygnae> damn it.
[1:15] <cygnae> [Saint] is freaking me out now.... how do I put a password to the account I just made?
[1:15] <[SLB]> that would stay the same, but chrome still not working?
[1:15] <cygnae> not working bro
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[1:16] <[SLB]> sudo chown www-data:www-data /var/www -R
[1:17] <[SLB]> i'm sure i'm forgetting something stupid
[1:17] <cygnae> now? again?
[1:17] <[SLB]> just refresh chrome
[1:17] <cygnae> nothing...
[1:18] <thatguy82> Hi, I need help. I bought a raspberrypi and followed the 'easy sd setup' http://elinux.org/RPi_Easy_SD_Card_Setup - my power adapter is 800mA, my SD card is not listed as incompatible
[1:18] <thatguy82> but I get a red led and nothing happens, no video, no flashing leds, seems dead
[1:18] <thatguy82> sha1sum is ok
[1:19] <[SLB]> can you check the sd on another machine? it should have 2 partitions, one fat and the other i guess ext
[1:19] <thatguy82> yes, fdisk show this
[1:19] <[SLB]> cygnae, not sure what's going on, it seems everything is alright with the setup
[1:19] <thatguy82> but if I try to mount the partition it fails, is that normal ?
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[1:20] <[SLB]> hm not normal, i can mount my partitions fine
[1:20] <thatguy82> so something is going wrong flashing the SD, pheew
[1:20] <[SLB]> most likely
[1:20] <pksato> 800mA can not be enough to power RPi.
[1:21] <thatguy82> pksato: no usb connected, only HDMI
[1:21] <pksato> if have a multimeter, check voltage on tp1 to tp2.
[1:21] <[SLB]> true too but i used to power my pi from a pc usb, which i believe is less than 800mA
[1:21] <Poison[BLX]> ... omg LCARS. Do want.
[1:22] <thatguy82> tp1 tp2, let me find this
[1:22] <pksato> most desktop usb have a 1.1A polyfuse for two ports.
[1:22] <Poison[BLX]> raspberrypi.org main page, for what I'm referring to there.
[1:22] <[SLB]> ah ok that may be the case, frontal panel
[1:22] <cygnae> [SLB] you can always help me add a user :P
[1:23] <pksato> but, labeled at 800mA can not correct.
[1:23] <[SLB]> cygnae, to add a password for a user you just run passwd <user> as root
[1:23] <thatguy82> 5.05 vdc
[1:24] <pksato> thatguy82: if dont have other PSU, test on one of rear USB port of desktop computer (not on notebook).
[1:24] <cygnae> i have no home...
[1:24] <thatguy82> i don't have a desktop computer but I used it on an usb port where I usually use external hdd
[1:24] <cygnae> and my prompt is a plain "$"
[1:25] <[SLB]> you are not using the user pi?
[1:25] <cygnae> nah i made me a new shiny fresh user
[1:25] <thatguy82> btw 5.05vdc on tp1-tp2 and I can't mount the SD
[1:25] <[SLB]> useradd?
[1:25] <thatguy82> looks like something goes wrong during the flash, ah ?
[1:25] <cygnae> yes
[1:25] <cygnae> useradd
[1:25] <pksato> thatguy82: or you not proper imaged SD>
[1:26] <[SLB]> delete it with userdel and use useradd -m
[1:26] <[SLB]> thatguy82, i think the problem is the sd yes
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[1:26] <thatguy82> http://pastebin.com/hAEc4TXU
[1:26] <thatguy82> sorry for non english OS
[1:27] <cygnae> now.... now i can't login as root xD this is frustrating... hold on
[1:27] <thatguy82> I did it several times and the sha1 sum is ok
[1:27] <pksato> thatguy82: flow http://elinux.org/R-Pi_Troubleshooting
[1:27] <[SLB]> /dev/sdb
[1:27] <[SLB]> ^
[1:27] <cygnae> woah, I don't even have sudo
[1:27] <thatguy82> pksato: did it before giving up and joining irc :)
[1:27] <pksato> thatguy82: wrong device.
[1:28] <pksato> you need to use root device, /dev/sdb.
[1:28] <RiXtEr_> cygnae: try su -
[1:28] <thatguy82> thank you, I'm flashing again
[1:29] <cygnae> dear lord I'm lost without bash
[1:29] <cygnae> how do I put it in default?
[1:29] <RiXtEr_> cygnae: to get sudo working you need to add that user to the sudoers or adm group (not sure which)
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[1:30] <RiXtEr_> cygnae: usermod -s /bin/bash USERNAME
[1:31] <RiXtEr_> cygnae: typically you have a line in your /etc/sudoers file that will tell you which group...
[1:31] <RiXtEr_> # Allow members of group sudo to execute any command
[1:31] <RiXtEr_> %sudo ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL
[1:32] <[Saint]> [SLB]: "useradd -m" doesn't fix the "I don;t have a home directory" issue.
[1:32] <[Saint]> In fact, that flag is specifically "don;t create a home dir"
[1:32] <RiXtEr_> [Saint]: try usermod -d /home/username
[1:32] <RiXtEr_> more specifically
[1:32] <[SLB]> -m, --create-home create the user's home directory
[1:32] <[SLB]> not sure
[1:33] <[Saint]> Ah. Crap. Whoops. Indeed.
[1:33] <[Saint]> "adduser" is probably slightly more userfriendly.
[1:33] <RiXtEr_> usermod -d /home/username username
[1:33] <[SLB]> oh eheh
[1:34] <thatguy82> yahi \o/
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[1:34] <thatguy82> thank you guys, it works
[1:34] <[SLB]> nice :)
[1:34] <thatguy82> I've spent 3 hours without catching what was in front of my eyes
[1:34] <thatguy82> you made my day :-)
[1:34] <[SLB]> eheh
[1:34] <RiXtEr_> thatguy82: its the simple things that throw you :) ... I had the same problem and have used linux for years.
[1:35] <cygnae> -m gave me a home
[1:35] <cygnae> :/
[1:35] <cygnae> and you guys gave me like 1000 instructions
[1:35] <cygnae> hahaha
[1:35] <[SLB]> i didn't know either at first i could dd to a device instead than a partition
[1:35] <[SLB]> lol
[1:36] <cygnae> I haz bash.
[1:36] <cygnae> but I'm also super hungry, pizza is here and gf is being.... special..
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[1:36] <cygnae> So
[1:36] <cygnae> I just saved the log and i'll be back in a few mins
[1:37] <RiXtEr_> cygnae: #winning.
[1:37] <cygnae> I leave but I thank you enormously(?) for everything.
[1:37] <cygnae> yes. #winning.
[1:37] <cygnae> :D
[1:37] <RiXtEr_> :)
[1:37] <[SLB]> :3
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[1:45] <thatguy82> thank you again guys, see you
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[1:45] <[SLB]> ciao
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[1:45] <[SLB]> i should be sleeping actually ._.
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[3:39] <cygnae> [SLB] you there man?
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[4:06] <cappicard> good evening. i notice that many emulators are giving me black vertical lines in retropie.
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[4:52] * [Saint] wishes a service existed where one could call up a Googler and yell at them about their various crappy products and usability failures
[4:52] <[Saint]> Hell...I'd pay for it, even.
[4:52] <blockh34d> like customer service but more for general beratement?
[4:53] <[Saint]> I suspect the Chrome, Android, and Glass teams would get their fair share of abuse.
[4:53] <[Saint]> blockh34d: precisely.
[4:53] <blockh34d> i remember wishing for exactly that service back in the day playing old nintendo games that werre basically buggy mess
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[4:53] <blockh34d> poorly designed, implemented etc
[4:54] <blockh34d> just wanted to call up game designers and beat them with nunchuks through the phone
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[4:54] <[Saint]> My current source of infuriation is Google pretty much making full disk encryption completely unusable.
[4:55] <blockh34d> yah? i don't know much about it
[4:55] <blockh34d> i do think google+ has totally screwed up y outube though
[4:55] <[Saint]> Its either a weak passphrase/pin, and actually be able to use the device, but have it vulnerable to brute force attack. Or a strong passphrase, and have the device be totally unusable, but secure.
[4:56] <[Saint]> Who wants to unlock their phone with a 20+ char keyphrase?
[4:56] <[Saint]> And that's not to mention that after decrypting the device after power on, its decrypted, so the strong passphrase is unnecessary at that point.
[4:57] <[Saint]> Decoupling the encryption passphrase from the lockscreen passphrase/pin is absolutely needed.
[4:57] <[Saint]> But...they won't do it.
[4:57] <[Saint]> Its possible to do it one's self, if you're rooted, but I shouldn't have to manage this myself.
[4:58] <[Saint]> I really feel like yelling at someone about this.
[4:58] <[Saint]> Preferably someone responsible, at least in part, for it.
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[4:59] <[Saint]> blockh34d: regarding youtube, it is *amazing* the number of people that opted into G+/YouTube integration that didn't realize that their comments would be posted to their G+ timelines. :)
[5:00] <[Saint]> Its hilarious seeing people accidentally making their racial slurs and generally harrasment publically visable to their immediate circle.
[5:00] <blockh34d> it makes me want to remove google from my life
[5:01] <[Saint]> *general
[5:01] <blockh34d> and find somewhere else for streaming video
[5:01] <[Saint]> Yahoo thinks they're up to the task...lol
[5:01] <[Saint]> I can only imagine how badly that'll fail.
[5:02] <[Saint]> Unless they end up shooting themselves in the foot somehow, YouTube is quite literally too big to fail.
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[5:03] <[Saint]> blockh34d: I take it that you weren't a G+ user before the policy change?
[5:03] <blockh34d> i was actually
[5:03] <[Saint]> All the people I knew who already used the service couldn't care less about it.
[5:03] <[Saint]> It makes it infinitely more useful.
[5:03] <blockh34d> i just don't like my real name being retroactively appended onto my former (generally inflamatory or at least troll-like) comments
[5:03] <[Saint]> Actually seeing relevant comments, from people you know, is a very good thing IMO.
[5:04] <blockh34d> nor do i want to feel like if i say something unpopular, my family will be made to suffer for it
[5:04] <[Saint]> Ohhhhh. Right. I see.
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[5:04] <cygnae> valid point
[5:04] <[Saint]> You're one of the people I was talking about earlier.
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[5:04] <[Saint]> If you don't like the possible repercussions, don't say it. Its pretty simple. :)
[5:04] <blockh34d> for instance my views on certain things could create negative pressures on my families job prospects
[5:05] <blockh34d> no thats not acceptable to me
[5:05] <blockh34d> as a Cynic i reject that
[5:05] <cygnae> what did I do, [Saint]?
[5:05] <[Saint]> Hm?
[5:05] <Scar3cr0w> heaven forbid someone might be held accountable for what they say online
[5:05] <[Saint]> Exactly.
[5:05] <blockh34d> i'm fine with holding me accountable
[5:06] <blockh34d> but dont fire my dad
[5:06] <Scar3cr0w> post under an anonymous account if that worries you
[5:06] <[Saint]> ...then, don't say things in a public space that could end in that.
[5:06] <blockh34d> because i said the business that pays the business that employs him is corrupt
[5:06] <blockh34d> Scar3cr0w: thats the nature of this discussion
[5:06] <blockh34d> google attempts to remove this as an option and i find it unacceptable
[5:06] <[Saint]> Scar3cr0w: that would directly violate several policies.
[5:07] <Scar3cr0w> or just try being a civil human being and try to help your fellow man instead of exciting a reaction
[5:07] <[Saint]> If you want anonymity...get the Hell of Google services, basically.
[5:07] <blockh34d> you have the wrong idea bout my comments
[5:07] <Poison[BLX]> what makes me laugh hysterically is that... the very revolutions, in a literal sense, that have been driven by social media could not have occured under the G+/YT approach.
[5:07] <blockh34d> i'm not a racist or a general troll i just don't trust the governmetn or business at all
[5:07] <blockh34d> and its clear in pretty much everything i say
[5:07] <blockh34d> i absolutely hate corporate america and every single politician
[5:07] <blockh34d> pretty much most of the rich too
[5:08] <blockh34d> those are my beliefs and i'm entitled to them
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[5:08] <Scar3cr0w> absolutly
[5:08] <blockh34d> but they're very unpopular in corporate circles, and i can't have my family be made to suffer negative consequences because of those beliefs
[5:08] <[Saint]> Then don't say things that could affect them.
[5:09] <[Saint]> Its pretty simple dude.
[5:09] <Scar3cr0w> however the fact that you're worried about what you say affecting them
[5:09] <Scar3cr0w> makes me believe you're saying some pretty inflamitory stuff
[5:09] <[Saint]> Indeed.
[5:09] <blockh34d> it doesnt take much any more
[5:09] <Scar3cr0w> just saying fuck the rich won't come back to bite your family on the ass
[5:09] <[Saint]> *ahem*
[5:09] <Scar3cr0w> lot's of people make those types of statements
[5:09] <[Saint]> Family channel.
[5:09] <Scar3cr0w> pardon
[5:09] <[Saint]> :)
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[5:10] <blockh34d> yah thats why i havent really gone much into depth here
[5:10] <blockh34d> inappropriate for this channel and also totally unrelated
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[5:10] <blockh34d> but if anyone really wants to know how i feel about whatever, msg me and i'll tell you all about it.
[5:11] <Scar3cr0w> his warning was for my typing too quickly without censoring myself
[5:11] <blockh34d> yes i figured
[5:11] * Scar3cr0w again apoligizes
[5:11] <Scar3cr0w> :)
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[5:11] <rikkib> American I guess
[5:11] <blockh34d> happens to the best of us i think
[5:11] <blockh34d> i am yes
[5:11] <Scar3cr0w> too true
[5:12] <blockh34d> America is a very conflicted place right now
[5:12] <blockh34d> it feels like we live in a snowglobe, moral up, moral down, relative to the dome... then someone flipped it... and no one noticed
[5:12] <Scar3cr0w> interesting analogy, kinda rings true
[5:12] <blockh34d> now when you try to do good, you're helping evil... if you think doing evil is now good though... thats wrong... its still just as wrong
[5:12] <[Saint]> Its not been a sudden happening.
[5:13] <rikkib> I live in another world, the same one as Saint, I doubt you would get much sympathy here
[5:13] <blockh34d> so no matter what you do, it just feels like it's making everything worse
[5:13] <[Saint]> rikkib: the Kiwi attitude is very hard to define to people, indeed.
[5:13] <blockh34d> i could go buy puppies and marshmellows and the gov can weaponize that purchase
[5:13] <[Saint]> We're not a sympathetic lot.
[5:14] <blockh34d> thats fine i dont care much for sympathy
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[5:14] <blockh34d> i'm a proactive sort of guy
[5:14] <rikkib> Specially not for the English or American's
[5:14] <blockh34d> my homemade predator helmet is probably already pretty well bullet reistant
[5:14] <[Saint]> The thing that often amuses me is the "How did this happen?!?" attitude that I often hear from Americans.
[5:14] <blockh34d> and i haven't even welded together the outer shell yet
[5:15] <[Saint]> Well, guys, its a democracy, and you elected idiots.
[5:15] <blockh34d> oh i've been protesting all this forever
[5:15] <blockh34d> well no its a republic
[5:15] <blockh34d> i would absolutely love a democracy
[5:15] <blockh34d> a true popular vote system
[5:15] <blockh34d> but we get the reps in office and they just suck at everything
[5:15] <blockh34d> except taking bribes and lying
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[5:15] <[Saint]> Well, its *supposed* to be a democracy, indeed. But the voting system in the US is so hilariously flawed and corrupt its not funny.
[5:15] <blockh34d> so its no surprise
[5:15] * rikkib back to drumming
[5:15] <[Saint]> And everyone knows it too...its...odd.
[5:16] <rikkib> To hot
[5:16] <[Saint]> rikkib: I'll swap 'ya.
[5:16] <blockh34d> i keep wanting to get into drumming
[5:16] <blockh34d> i feel like i have the energy for it
[5:16] <[Saint]> Its only 12C here.
[5:16] <blockh34d> but... no skill
[5:17] <blockh34d> [Saint]: yah there is a lot of intentional ignorance/indifference going on here
[5:17] <blockh34d> i find it all highly unacceptable
[5:17] * [Saint] firmly believes that everyone has rhythm
[5:17] <blockh34d> not here like #rpi but here america
[5:17] <[Saint]> <-- also a drummer
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[5:17] <blockh34d> i have adhd issues and i think they get in the way
[5:18] <blockh34d> its hard for me to stay focused on a beat
[5:18] <blockh34d> i do ok with stuff like fruityloops i guess
[5:18] <blockh34d> but its hardly comparable
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[5:28] <[Saint]> Bloody ridiculous...
[5:28] <[Saint]> http://www.cnet.com/news/blackberryesque-typo-iphone-case-hit-with-sales-ban/
[5:28] <[Saint]> America, this patent shennigans has got to stop.
[5:29] <[Saint]> Should be invalidated for obviousness.
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[5:30] <blockh34d> yah corporations are evil
[5:30] <blockh34d> hypocrites too, they all say they want less regulation, less redtape, but then they have legions of lawyers and a constant schedule of lawsuits
[5:31] <[Saint]> My main beef is with "holding companies" that buy up patents and then wait for someone to succeed where they failed so they can cash in.
[5:31] <[Saint]> see: patent troll
[5:32] <blockh34d> maybe they believe they don't need a good product, just a better-than-the-competions product
[5:32] <blockh34d> if they believed they had a real good product why would they care at all what their competitors are doing... goodl uck to them with their cruddy wanna be iphone or whatever, right?
[5:32] <blockh34d> that they respond like this is just insecure looking
[5:33] <[Saint]> Some patents that have been granted are ridiculous.
[5:33] <blockh34d> patents are just corporate welfare
[5:33] <cygnae> man this is some deep convo i'm reading
[5:33] <blockh34d> and a way for them to rob the real innovators
[5:33] <[Saint]> In 2000something, someone was able to patent "digital signal transfer".
[5:33] <blockh34d> who almost never hold those patents for long
[5:33] <[Saint]> Can you imagine how far reaching that patent extends?
[5:33] <blockh34d> cygnae: yah i'm a prolific ranter
[5:34] <blockh34d> yah that basically covers everything back to smoke signals
[5:34] <[Saint]> Yet they won't validate his claims of patent infringement, as it would absolutely devastate the entire tech industry.
[5:34] <blockh34d> so whats the point of the laws to begin with?
[5:34] <[Saint]> Yeah...
[5:34] <blockh34d> they wont enforce them, they're just meaningless kangaroo court for those that can afford to pay off the judges
[5:35] <blockh34d> the criminal system is just as bad here
[5:35] <blockh34d> its why i am how i am
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[5:39] <blockh34d> but hey good news, the oppressive elements i alude to are doomed, they will fail, they always fail, its just a matter of time. so patience, perseverence, good will overcome i'm sure of it
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[6:27] <SirLagz> why can't i find any cases for the Pi with all the ports on one side anymore =/
[6:27] <SirLagz> a remember a whole bunch were being made or being kick-startered for a while
[6:27] <blockh34d> how would that even work?
[6:27] <hideo> what do you mean all the ports on one side?
[6:27] <SirLagz> extended cables plug in to the rest of the ports
[6:28] <blockh34d> oh i see
[6:28] <blockh34d> yah that would be nice
[6:28] <SirLagz> yeah i made one for myself, but i cant be bothered doing another one
[6:28] <blockh34d> i kinda wish there was a lowprofile rpi with external hookups on leads
[6:28] <SirLagz> blockh34d: exactly
[6:28] <blockh34d> so you could cut off any you didn't need/want
[6:28] <blockh34d> and run them to your case however
[6:29] <SirLagz> blockh34d: I remember someone was making a Pi case with breakout leads so you could have all the ports on one side, but I can't seem to find it anymore =/
[6:29] <blockh34d> is it ben heck/ bill hekc? did a nice job desoldering all the jacks off and implementing a different design
[6:29] <blockh34d> for his show on youtube, it was for a portable MAME pi in a handheld unit like a gameboy
[6:30] <SirLagz> he's obviously a much better soldererer than I am though haha
[6:30] <blockh34d> it looked ambitious
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[6:30] <SirLagz> blockh34d: I've built a case for my Pi out of an old PSU
[6:31] <blockh34d> any pics?
[6:31] <SirLagz> and had extensions for the ethernet, USB and HDMI
[6:31] <SirLagz> no finished ones
[6:31] <blockh34d> i made a cool case for a normal computer out of an old milk crate
[6:31] <blockh34d> came out really awesome actually
[6:31] <SirLagz> http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=12258 <-- that was the beginning of it
[6:31] <cygnae> show us some pics
[6:31] <blockh34d> it was cut in half and could open along a hinge, was super easy to access/upgrade
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[6:31] <blockh34d> cygnae: me? i have none, it was for a friend so i dont have it anymore
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[6:33] <blockh34d> i get 404 with that link
[6:33] <blockh34d> maybe i'm doing it wrong
[6:33] <blockh34d> pretty late here
[6:33] <SirLagz> google "raspberry pi PiSU" and click the first link
[6:35] <blockh34d> lol better be careful with metal case
[6:35] <blockh34d> i dunno why that loads up in luakit but not wget
[6:36] <SirLagz> blockh34d: i've got a cpu case under the pi to protect it
[6:37] <SirLagz> might have to post the latest pictures of my Pi onto that thread. Been a while since I've updated it heh
[6:37] <blockh34d> maybe you could use some of those dayglo things people use in their tricked out comps
[6:38] <blockh34d> or whatever it is, the flourescent looking plastic people use
[6:38] <SirLagz> blockh34d: yeah that was the plan originally. Then got some prices and abandoned that idea
[6:38] <blockh34d> lol
[6:38] <blockh34d> could you fit it all in a normal 5 1/4" cd-rom case?
[6:38] <SirLagz> probably
[6:38] <blockh34d> seems like it
[6:38] <SirLagz> but i didn't have any of those spare
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[6:39] <blockh34d> i think that'd be even cooler, smaller and stuff
[6:39] <SirLagz> yeah definitely
[6:39] <blockh34d> but thats great man
[6:39] <blockh34d> neat mod
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[6:39] <SirLagz> cheers :D
[6:39] <blockh34d> yah now i'm thinkg about the cd case idea
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[6:39] <blockh34d> cause i have a stack of old machines sitting here looking for a reason to exist
[6:40] <SirLagz> I have some clear plastic on the rear grill now so that my USB and ethernet are mounted on the back rather than just danging
[6:40] <SirLagz> hanging*
[6:40] <blockh34d> do you have a dremel or some way to cut the metal?
[6:40] <SirLagz> Yes...but there's not enough metal there to do what I want haha
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[6:41] <blockh34d> ah
[6:41] <blockh34d> maybe i'll make a clear acryllic case
[6:41] <SirLagz> http://sirlagz.net/2012/12/30/raspberry-pi-case-the-pisu-part-4/ <-- actually there's a somewhat updated picture. I wired up the USB extensions
[6:41] <blockh34d> i used to make lots of stuff out of clear acrylic... its very strong and easy to work with (with a dremel)
[6:41] <blockh34d> ever tried it for stuff like cases?
[6:41] <SirLagz> nope
[6:41] <SirLagz> I want to though
[6:41] <blockh34d> yah it'd be neat i bet
[6:42] <blockh34d> mostly all you need is a dremel with a lot of sander bits and superglue
[6:42] <blockh34d> also one of those scroring knives to snap your big cuts
[6:42] <SirLagz> definitely. I'd build one with built in USB hub and built in PSU
[6:42] <blockh34d> i think if it were me i'd make it out of many layers of plastic glued as stack
[6:42] <blockh34d> with the recessed areas holding the actual PI formed by a stack of holes
[6:43] <blockh34d> but you could also use a single piece of plastic on edge for the sidewalls, i'm sure that'd be fine if you did it right
[6:43] <blockh34d> just make sure you cut all the port holes to fit etc before you glue it
[6:43] <blockh34d> or that will not go well
[6:44] <SirLagz> I'd be dremelling out a grove to sit the side in if I was going to do that
[6:44] <blockh34d> yah that'd help
[6:44] <blockh34d> especially if you used a table saw set very shallow
[6:44] <blockh34d> so it routes a very even trench
[6:44] <blockh34d> hard to hand cut such an even trench with dremel
[6:45] <SirLagz> true
[6:45] <blockh34d> but if you do that it will definately be a stronger glue
[6:45] <blockh34d> but imo what i suggested is strongest since you can make the sidewalls however thick you want
[6:45] <blockh34d> also you don't necessarily need 90 degree corners
[6:46] <blockh34d> it could really be any kind of shape if hte sidewalls can be of any shape/thickness
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[6:46] <cygnae> omggggg
[6:46] <cygnae> I did a killall
[6:46] <cygnae> terminal froze
[6:47] <cygnae> do i have to hard reset?
[6:47] <SirLagz> cygnae: killall what ?
[6:47] <cygnae> just killall
[6:47] <cygnae> finger slipped
[6:47] <cygnae> putty closed instantly
[6:48] <SirLagz> can you get back into the Pi ?
[6:48] <cygnae> no sir I can not
[6:48] <Scar3cr0w> got a keyboard plugged into it locally?
[6:48] <SirLagz> cygnae: got a screen plugged in ?
[6:49] <cygnae> not even in the same room
[6:49] <cygnae> no screen no keyboard just power ethernet and a usb drive
[6:49] <Scar3cr0w> bummer
[6:49] <SirLagz> go have a look at the Pi and see if the network lights are still on
[6:49] <shiftplusone> Hmm... needs more pi https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Li4vhf78_R0
[6:49] <cygnae> sooo.
[6:49] <cygnae> aaaand there we go
[6:51] <aural> This old article is pretty awesome covering a variety of hardwares: http://iqjar.com/jar/an-overview-and-comparison-of-todays-single-board-micro-computers/
[6:51] <cygnae> yeah, had to get off my ass go to the computer room and manually unplug-plug the cable
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[6:54] <cygnae> holy crap ubuntu isn't supported on rpi?
[6:54] <cygnae> man the things you learn...
[6:55] <SirLagz> it's not supported because the Pi doesn't use an ARMv7 CPU
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[6:55] <SirLagz> same reason why ARMHF Debian isn't supported.
[6:55] <winevirus> Anyone know of a good kit to start working with the pi? I already have 2 Model Bs, and I'd like to start getting into building stuff.
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[6:57] <shiftplusone> winevirus, what sort of stuff?
[6:57] <aural> This is interesting/new to me: "The Raspberry Pi requires nonfree software to start up. It can't reach the point of executing free software unless this nonfree program is part of the installed system software. The startup program is, in fact, the same program that runs the GPU and the video decoding hardware. Thus, the GPU and the video decoding hardware are unusable in the free world, but these jobs can be done with free software on the CPU.
[6:57] <aural> That program appears to implement intentional restrictions, such as blocking the video decoding hardware for MPEG-2 and VC-1 in the absence of a key that is specific to the machine in hand."
[6:57] <aural> source: http://www.fsf.org/resources/hw/single-board-computers
[6:57] <winevirus> shiftplusone, Thinking of working towards building a hand held system, or using my old mans 3d printer to build my own netbook/laptop with it.
[6:57] <winevirus> Looking into adding battery support, monitor without hdmi port, etc.
[6:58] <shiftplusone> I'd wait until the official DSI display is released, but there are plenty of alternatives still
[6:58] <winevirus> I don't mind getting my hands dirty, in fact I'd rather do it myself.
[6:58] <winevirus> I want to learn
[6:58] <shiftplusone> excellent
[6:58] <winevirus> programming, I work with C/C++/Java/Python
[6:58] <winevirus> So I can handle that side
[6:59] <winevirus> physical side? I want to break everything and anything. :D
[6:59] <shiftplusone> look into displays which connect over SPI (they're usually fairly small though)
[6:59] <winevirus> Have you ever seen I think it was Ben Heck who did the portable pi?
[6:59] <shiftplusone> alternatively you can hack apart one of those little car monitors which connect through composite.
[6:59] <winevirus> I have the exact same little screen he used for testing.
[6:59] <winevirus> or that he used in the device
[6:59] <winevirus> I bought it originally because it was small.
[7:00] <shiftplusone> Nuh, I don't follow Ben Heck.
[7:00] <winevirus> Gimme a moment, I'll graba link to the screen
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[7:00] <winevirus> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0045IIZKU/ref=oh_details_o03_s00_i02?ie=UTF8&psc=1
[7:01] <winevirus> just for a test subject
[7:01] <shiftplusone> ah, that's easy enough
[7:01] <shiftplusone> does it take 12v input?
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[7:01] <shiftplusone> (and you know how to mod it to use 5v instead?)
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[7:01] <winevirus> Trying to find a good set of options to start modding really. I've seen a few sets come with breadboard and a few other things.
[7:02] <winevirus> it does take 12v input
[7:02] <winevirus> how to regulate, no clue
[7:02] <winevirus> :D
[7:02] <winevirus> It's all rather new, but I like jumping in. If I break something, I'll just buy another.
[7:02] <shiftplusone> it takes 12v because that's what car batteries provide. Internally, it's more likely to use 5v. So if you take it apart and follow the power with a multimeter, you may be able to bypass the 12v side of things and go straight to 5v.
[7:04] <winevirus> From what it looks like in the video I mentioned, he's using a 7.4v lithium battery to power the pi and the monitor
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[7:05] <winevirus> Just trying to find a nie bundle of supplies to start messing with thigns.
[7:06] <winevirus> I was looking at this: http://www.amazon.com/RASPBERRY-MODEL-756-8308-Raspberry-Pi/dp/B009SQQF9C
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[7:08] <[Saint]> winevirus: Why on earth is it so expensive?
[7:09] <winevirus> Because it's on amazon.
[7:09] <[Saint]> IS there a particular reason why you're going through them?
[7:09] <winevirus> I copy and pasted the wrong thing.
[7:09] <winevirus> http://www.amazon.com/CanaKit-Raspberry-Ultimate-Starter-Components/dp/B00G1PNG54
[7:09] <winevirus> Also: I usually do because my work has Prime, so I don't pay shipping.
[7:10] <Twist-> winevirus: you might give the arduino platform a look too. It's a nice compliment if you're trying to get started in electronics.
[7:10] <Twist-> winevirus: Have you run across the adafruit learning site?
[7:11] <winevirus> I haven't messed with anything yet. Just got my wife to tell me "Go nuts"
[7:11] <winevirus> So, that's what I plan to do.
[7:11] <Twist-> http://learn.adafruit.com/category/learn-raspberry-pi
[7:11] <Twist-> winevirus: also, where are you located?
[7:11] <winevirus> Texas at the moment
[7:11] <Twist-> city?
[7:11] <winevirus> Texarkana
[7:12] <Twist-> so much for referring you to a local hackspace
[7:12] <winevirus> haha.
[7:12] <winevirus> Yeah, i've had 0 luck finding people near here.
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[7:14] <Twist-> http://learn.adafruit.com/category/learn-raspberry-pi
[7:15] <Twist-> http://learn.adafruit.com/category/learn-arduino
[7:15] <Twist-> er
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[7:15] <Twist-> I did that already
[7:15] <winevirus> Isn't arduino another micro computer? Or are the extra supplies valid for either?
[7:15] <winevirus> I mean I'm alwyas willing to learn whatever it takes.
[7:16] <Twist-> the great thing about adafruit is the wealth of tutorials for every component she sells. the dowside is the 4x markup.
[7:16] <Twist-> it's a microcontroller, rather than a microprocessor.
[7:16] <Twist-> They're each suited for certain applications.
[7:17] <winevirus> Wouldn't arduino be more for like, robotics?
[7:17] <Twist-> It's better suited for direct control of electronics
[7:18] <Twist-> but it's not a proper computer.. lacks the ram/speed for most user interface work.
[7:18] <winevirus> Okay I think I get that.
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[7:18] <winevirus> So about this set(Remember, I don't pay shipping): http://www.amazon.com/CanaKit-Raspberry-Ultimate-Starter-Components/dp/B00G1PNG54
[7:18] <winevirus> Would it be worth getting just to have something to start with?
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[7:19] <Twist-> Also, some electronic control requires very precise timing.. a machine running a user focused OS often can't deliver.
[7:20] <Twist-> winevirus: that's about $30 in parts
[7:20] <Twist-> so it's a question of how much markup you're willing to pay for convenience
[7:20] <Twist-> Oh, pi included. not terrible.
[7:21] <winevirus> Well, I can pay $80 with no shipping or $65 + shipping.
[7:21] <winevirus> So I figured it would be a nice kid
[7:21] <winevirus> I don't know how the SD card will be.
[7:21] <winevirus> but meh, not really required.
[7:21] <winevirus> I have about 30 lying around
[7:22] <Twist-> So do you want this as a tiny computer, or are you looking to control electronics/hardware?
[7:22] <winevirus> Computer.
[7:22] <Twist-> that starter kit seems focused on the other use
[7:23] <winevirus> Well, wouldn't it be helpful to learn how to do stuff in general?
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[7:23] <winevirus> Like, I'd like to turn a pi into a laptop.
[7:23] <cygnae> anyone has a galaxy note 3 here?
[7:23] <winevirus> not requiring wired power, onboard monitor, etc.
[7:23] <cygnae> winevirus why would you want to do that? just for kicks?
[7:23] <shiftplusone> winevirus, not very educational, but check out the atrix lapdock.
[7:24] <Twist-> You lost me at "laptop not requiring a monitor"
[7:24] <winevirus> cygnae, it'd just be a start to learning. I like being creative.
[7:24] <winevirus> Sorry Twist, what I meant is an external monitor.
[7:24] <winevirus> I don't want to have to plug it in to anything.
[7:25] <cygnae> so you want to make a homemade ipod?
[7:25] <cygnae> (was gonna say cellphone but the rpi has no gsm slot)
[7:25] <SirLagz> usb GSM modem can solve that problem !
[7:26] <winevirus> Homemade handheld emulator, rpi laptop. I saw someone built a wall calendar which looked awesome
[7:26] <winevirus> There's hundreds of things I'd like to try.
[7:26] <cygnae> try making your own car alarm
[7:27] <Twist-> winevirus: you're only losing $20 or less with that kit.. dunno about you, but that's not enough for me to agonize over. If it saves me a couple hours of research, I'll pull the trigger.
[7:27] <cygnae> hell, make a whole standalone automated carputer/alarm/ice
[7:27] <winevirus> Twist: That's what I was thinking. Gives me something to toy with and kinda just get used to doing random stuff. Won't hurt me at all, and I still get a Pi out of it.
[7:27] <cygnae> go bananas with nfc, gsm, bluetooth and more
[7:28] <Twist-> winevirus: the Pi is a fine place to start. I went off on the electronics tangent because the kit's focused that way.
[7:28] <Twist-> winevirus: me, I've got all the rest of that shit lying around already.
[7:28] <winevirus> I'd like to learn oth sides sooner or later.
[7:28] <Twist-> hdmi cable, usb power supply, sd cards, etc
[7:28] <cygnae> you can make it so you can unlock the car with a nfc tag and start the engine with a fingerprint scanner or some crazy stuff
[7:29] <winevirus> Like when I was younger, back with the original xboxes, my best friend and I used to do crazy case mods and have fun. I still can do all that, but now I have a micro computer I can play with it all.
[7:29] <cygnae> I've been trying to get a rfid implant :D those go for 100 usd
[7:29] <Twist-> winevirus: yeah, I've got stacks of pis for random shit.. it's amazing where a $20-$30 computer comes in handy.
[7:29] <SirLagz> rfid implant ?
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[7:29] <cygnae> yes sir
[7:29] <SirLagz> that would be...AWESOME
[7:29] <cygnae> goes in the meat between your thumb and your finger
[7:29] <Twist-> winevirus: pi+conky+spare monitor
[7:30] <winevirus> Twist: I've got 2 model B and 1 model A. I've done some random stuff, ported over some stuff, it's been fun
[7:30] <cygnae> you can open your home, start your car, unlock your cellphone, all those nifty things
[7:30] <Twist-> instant digital dash or picture frame
[7:30] <cygnae> SirLagz let me hook you up
[7:30] <SirLagz> cygnae: can i do it in australia ?
[7:31] <Twist-> waitwhat?
[7:31] <cygnae> they ship it to you in a comfy needle, you just ask a nurse for an installation (lol)
[7:31] <cygnae> wait...
[7:32] <SirLagz> lol
[7:32] <Twist-> winevirus: give this section a browse for ideas. http://www.adafruit.com/category/105
[7:32] <SirLagz> can it hold multiple rfids ?
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[7:32] <cygnae> can your hand hold multiple shots? hahaha
[7:32] <Twist-> http://www.adafruit.com/products/1601
[7:32] <Twist-> that one is fun
[7:32] <winevirus> Twist: You said adafruit comes with info on most things it sells?
[7:32] <SirLagz> cygnae: haha damn
[7:33] <SirLagz> cygnae: I want one that can switch codes
[7:33] <Twist-> winevirus: yeah, scroll down to the description area. note the tutorials tab.
[7:33] <cygnae> ima get you a couple of links
[7:33] <winevirus> Also: I have a major reason I want to do all of this.
[7:33] <cygnae> http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/the-xnt-implantable-nfc-chip
[7:33] <winevirus> My grandpa gave me all of his C64 stuff. all of the origianl accessories, the c64 monitor, and 4 working c64s.
[7:33] <cygnae> this one's cheap but it's not intended for subdermal use https://www.sparkfun.com/products/9416
[7:33] <SirLagz> so I can code it with a few different ones, like code it to my work card and never forget my swipe card again !
[7:33] <winevirus> I wanna mod one once I learn enough about all this stuff
[7:33] <winevirus> :p
[7:33] <Twist-> http://learn.adafruit.com/diy-wifi-raspberry-pi-touch-cam
[7:33] <Twist-> that's hilarious
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[7:35] <cygnae> SirLagz basically you have to do this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AJIdc-MO88
[7:35] <cygnae> wadsworth constant btw
[7:36] <SirLagz> rfid keyless ignition is an awesome idea....until you have to lend someone your car haha
[7:37] <cygnae> well it can always work with the key too...
[7:37] <cygnae> you just don't need the key anymore
[7:37] <cygnae> or house keys
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[7:37] <cygnae> or if you live in fancy pantsy america, your wallet
[7:38] <SirLagz> if i had rfid keyless ignition, I'd probably remove the key barrel altogether haha
[7:38] <cygnae> that would kick ass
[7:38] <cygnae> remove *ALL* the barrels
[7:38] <SirLagz> yep
[7:38] <cygnae> house work car
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[7:39] <cygnae> just jedi force them
[7:39] <cygnae> mwahaha
[7:39] <SirLagz> indeed
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[7:45] <blockh34d> gnite
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[7:45] <SirLagz> http://www.smh.com.au/news/technology/meet-australias-geekiest-geek/2008/03/03/1204402351058.html <-- heh. someone's already done what I wanted
[7:47] <cygnae> ok so what you're gonna do is THAT
[7:47] <cygnae> plus add a JARVIS to the equation
[7:47] <cygnae> then everybody will be jealous of you
[7:47] <SirLagz> yep.
[7:48] <SirLagz> voice activated automation
[7:48] <SirLagz> plus google glass + google watch
[7:48] <cygnae> i've seen the size of today's cameras in cellphones
[7:49] <cygnae> ....wouldn't mind to get one where my eyebrow piercing is.
[7:49] <cygnae> that. would. ROCK.
[7:50] <steve_rox> most ppl become quite voilent towards google glass wearers
[7:51] <cygnae> that's why I would like to get a camera implant on my eyebrow :D
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[7:51] <steve_rox> think i might be a bit erm offended if someone was shoveing a camera in my face like that
[7:52] <steve_rox> just strap a aircraft black box to everyones head and be done with it
[7:52] <steve_rox> can prob get facebook branded blackboxes too
[7:53] <blockh34d-zZz> your clothing probably contains enough rfids in a unique enough combination that you are alrady wearing a tracking device
[7:53] <blockh34d-zZz> that that your pants rfid is that unique... but combined with your jackets, and your phones... that adds up to 'you'
[7:53] <steve_rox> nsa must love that
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[7:54] <blockh34d-zZz> oh sure, they say rfids can only be scanned short range
[7:54] <blockh34d-zZz> but theres really no reason why that would be true
[7:54] <steve_rox> put enough of the scanners around and create a mesh detection grid?
[7:54] <blockh34d-zZz> whos to say they can't scan them from drones right now
[7:54] <blockh34d-zZz> yah exactly
[7:55] * cygnae gets his tinfoil hat...
[7:55] * blockh34d-zZz never takes his off
[7:55] <steve_rox> yay lets cook his brains
[7:55] <blockh34d-zZz> actually working on upgrading it quite a bit
[7:55] <steve_rox> bake a foil very good :-P
[7:55] <blockh34d-zZz> lol
[7:56] <steve_rox> they prob have ways to get past your foil hats now
[7:56] <blockh34d-zZz> ok i will bake my brains a moment
[7:56] <blockh34d-zZz> but then i go sleep
[7:56] <steve_rox> im close to sleep myself
[7:56] <blockh34d-zZz> i'm working on a predator helmet
[7:56] <steve_rox> some kinda rino head butting helmet?
[7:57] <blockh34d-zZz> i want it fully bulletproof, 360' cam vision, night vision, thermal IR, and 3d scanned augmented reality
[7:57] <steve_rox> oh rights
[7:57] <blockh34d-zZz> remote drone piloting, remote gun scope camera viewing, etc
[7:57] <steve_rox> lightning proof too
[7:57] <blockh34d-zZz> and an EEG device to control the drones at least somewhat by thought
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[7:57] <blockh34d-zZz> the greatest tin foil hat EVER
[7:58] <steve_rox> yeah
[7:58] <blockh34d-zZz> i feel like if i make that hat, the government will fear it
[7:58] <blockh34d-zZz> but killing me will not be as practical as paying me a lot of money to go away
[7:58] <steve_rox> they fear all
[7:58] <blockh34d-zZz> all more than any
[7:59] <blockh34d-zZz> so making something liek that helmet open source or the equivelant
[7:59] <blockh34d-zZz> very scary to them i bet
[7:59] <blockh34d-zZz> good, the gov should have a healthy fear of the governed, at all times
[7:59] <steve_rox> they fear all they dont control
[8:00] <steve_rox> :-P
[8:00] <blockh34d-zZz> yah, and even what they don't control can usually still be controlled by the blanket oppression known as money and pursuit of profit
[8:00] <blockh34d-zZz> people will oppress themselves with that nonsense, no gov needed
[8:01] <blockh34d-zZz> but i have kind of unconvential views on the whole thing
[8:01] <steve_rox> i guess
[8:02] <blockh34d-zZz> its like if WoW money ran the world
[8:02] <blockh34d-zZz> just using it gives WoW power
[8:02] <blockh34d-zZz> who says any money is worht anything? the people dumb enough to play along
[8:02] <steve_rox> they got bitcoin for that and that dident go well
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[8:03] <blockh34d-zZz> seems like its doing pretty good now that NSA got their claws in the game
[8:03] <steve_rox> prob try sabotarge it in some way
[8:03] <blockh34d-zZz> ever since they took down silkroad and developed a position, bitcoins been going up up up.
[8:03] <blockh34d-zZz> no that wont be until they sell off their ill gotten silkroad coins
[8:03] <blockh34d-zZz> they use economic terrorism to increase their purchasing power
[8:04] <steve_rox> and erm abilty to buy guns and stuff?
[8:04] <blockh34d-zZz> labor mostly
[8:04] <steve_rox> ah
[8:04] <blockh34d-zZz> they make the guns, got plenty, will sell you some actually
[8:05] <steve_rox> gotta arm up and protect yaself aggenst them invisible terrorsts?
[8:05] <blockh34d-zZz> its all just 2 shades south of outright slavery
[8:05] <blockh34d-zZz> yah and the get to call that 'aid'
[8:05] <blockh34d-zZz> when really its just us arming the dictators we installed so they can best do exactly what they're told
[8:06] <steve_rox> so much bad stuff going on in the world at moment
[8:06] <blockh34d-zZz> and we do it on the US taxpayer dollar, all socialized
[8:06] <blockh34d-zZz> by people who then get on tv and curse socialism
[8:06] <steve_rox> japan glowing in the dark is one thing they are trying so hard to silence
[8:06] <blockh34d-zZz> yah
[8:06] <blockh34d-zZz> that radiation exploding out the pacific image... haunts me
[8:07] <steve_rox> most ppl have no idea about it
[8:07] <blockh34d-zZz> what a one way street we've drunkingly stumbled down
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[8:07] <steve_rox> they assume its over because the media does not report on it
[8:07] <blockh34d-zZz> we're tumbling down a hill in the dark and rain
[8:07] <blockh34d-zZz> and people act like its just fine
[8:07] <blockh34d-zZz> at least we're moving fast!
[8:08] <steve_rox> wait until simptoms start popping up in about 3-5 years then ppl make wake up more
[8:08] <blockh34d-zZz> i think the only solution is for us to vehemently adhere to our own individuality
[8:08] <blockh34d-zZz> we have to all try to come up with a plan, and then do it
[8:08] <cygnae> well at least I'm in Mexico. Gotta fear dem druglords
[8:08] <blockh34d-zZz> and one of us, at least, will have the magic bullet
[8:08] <blockh34d-zZz> but if we all do everything mostly the same way, we're doomed
[8:08] <steve_rox> heh crazy druglords armed with p90's
[8:09] <blockh34d-zZz> yah or worse
[8:09] <blockh34d-zZz> they got subs... they got whatever they want
[8:09] <cygnae> p90s? son, the USA arms the druglords here.
[8:09] <blockh34d-zZz> prolly got stingers and tanks
[8:09] <cygnae> we got stingers, we got tanks
[8:09] <cygnae> hell
[8:09] <cygnae> we got a round of barretts just for kicks
[8:09] <steve_rox> p90 chews thu body armor
[8:10] <cygnae> no tanks? no problem, urban homemade tanks
[8:10] <blockh34d-zZz> need a microwave device that just detonates all ammo in that general direction
[8:10] <cygnae> heavily armor plated
[8:10] <steve_rox> so many problems in the world , makes you feel like you have a huge weight on shoulders sometimes
[8:10] <blockh34d-zZz> and for these to be so widespread, no one wants any ammo around anymore
[8:11] <blockh34d-zZz> and self replicating drones that hunt down and destroy *any* unoccupied military equipment
[8:11] <blockh34d-zZz> so if it doenst currently have a human in it, it is a valid target
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[8:11] <blockh34d-zZz> until we have gotten rid of all the worlds military and similar organizations
[8:11] <cygnae> impossible
[8:12] <steve_rox> apsolute power corrupts
[8:12] <cygnae> the human race depends on the military r&d
[8:12] <blockh34d-zZz> it sounds insane... but dont all armies justify their existence by pointing at their neighbors army?
[8:12] <cygnae> every single technological breakthrough starts with A trying to kill B
[8:12] <steve_rox> true
[8:12] <blockh34d-zZz> i wouldnt argue that
[8:12] <blockh34d-zZz> but i think over time it evolves
[8:13] <steve_rox> man will allways strive to find new ways to kill each other
[8:13] <cygnae> from arrows to rods from god
[8:13] <blockh34d-zZz> it used to be all about more sex
[8:13] <blockh34d-zZz> and then we found killing people gives us more sex so we switched priorities
[8:13] <blockh34d-zZz> i think we could switch again
[8:13] <cygnae> man... sex is SO good.
[8:13] <blockh34d-zZz> that if we find working together gives us all what we want and one of what we dont, why bother with anything else?
[8:14] <blockh34d-zZz> and one / and none
[8:14] <cygnae> like..... SO GOOD. I know it's hardwired into our dna because of the preservation of the species and all.. but damn
[8:14] <steve_rox> i feel like passing out
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[8:14] <blockh34d-zZz> yah me too
[8:14] <blockh34d-zZz> good night friends
[8:14] <cygnae> tell me this... have you ever NOT liked an orgasm?
[8:14] <blockh34d-zZz> no never
[8:14] <blockh34d-zZz> ever bad sex is still sex
[8:14] <cygnae> It's like, whatever gives you pleasure in life, if you do it enough times it will fade
[8:15] <shiftplusone> Is that appropriate for this channel?
[8:15] <steve_rox> i was starting to wonder
[8:15] <cygnae> well it leads up to a point
[8:16] * steve_rox passes out
[8:16] <cygnae> and steve just passed out.
[8:16] * Twist- quietly passes sharpies out to the crowd.
[8:16] <cygnae> rofl
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[8:17] <cygnae> if steve has a mustache ima shave it then paint a mustache mwahahah so evil
[8:17] <steve_rox> charming ppl in ere
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[8:32] <cygnae> guys ima hit the sack. Today was a wonderful learning experience. I cried I laughed I almost threw my RPi to the trash.. but it's partially doing what I want and that's awesome. Have a good day or night depending on where you live and hope to see you soon.
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[11:15] <ItsMeLenny> does anybody have a link to how the new raspi soundcard actually works
[11:16] <ShorTie> what new raspi soundcard ??
[11:17] <ItsMeLenny> this one http://www.element14.com/community/community/raspberry-pi/raspberry-pi-accessories/wolfson_pi
[11:17] <ItsMeLenny> and its not 1st of april anywhere in the world yet
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[11:19] <ItsMeLenny> there is a schematic diagram, im just confused how they can get 192khz stereo playback and stereo recording through the GPIO headers
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[11:21] <ShorTie> it looks to me it goes thru the P5 header, not the normal gpio header
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[11:26] <ShorTie> i'd like to see the other side of the board to see how they hook up to the P5 header
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[11:28] <shiftplusone> they use i2s, don't they?
[11:28] <gordonDrogon> It uses the P5 connector and I2S.
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[11:28] <gordonDrogon> there are "pogo" pins on the back of the board to touch the P5 holes.
[11:28] <shiftplusone> 'morning, Gordon.
[11:28] <gordonDrogon> so you don't need to solder anything.
[11:29] <gordonDrogon> What Ho!
[11:29] <gordonDrogon> I saw one in Manchester a few weeks ago.
[11:29] <shiftplusone> hm, don't some pis have the p5 header soldered on?
[11:29] <ShorTie> ya, pogo pins is what i was thinking
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[11:29] <gordonDrogon> shiftplusone, they shouldn't have - it's supposed to come out the bottom of the board.
[11:29] <ShorTie> P5 header is not a standard distance from the gpio header
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[11:30] <gordonDrogon> ShorTie, maybe because it's not designed to be linked directly to the P1 header...
[11:30] <ShorTie> so soldering a header in is hard
[11:30] <gordonDrogon> you solder the top of the board.
[11:30] <shiftplusone> ah, p2 is soldered on on one of them, not p5
[11:31] <gordonDrogon> however i've seen folks put it in upside down to connect to jumpers on the top rather than off the bottom.
[11:31] <gordonDrogon> You get 2 more GPIO's - 2 can be re-provisioned for I2S.
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[11:33] <ShorTie> the board l00ks nifty, just thought they might make the gpio pins stick up so it's not capped off at that board
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[11:37] <ShorTie> then you could stack more boards on top
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[11:37] <gordonDrogon> I'm wondering if that's actually a good idea these days - if you put a hi-fi audio card on a Pi - will you really want to use it for other GPIO "stuff"?
[11:38] <gordonDrogon> and I think he audio card uses some of the other gpio signals for control too.
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[11:39] <shiftplusone> such sillyness... http://volumio.org/raspberry-pi-i2s-dac-sounds-so-good/
[11:40] <gordonDrogon> oh they'll be buying �1500 cat-5 cables next.
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[11:40] <ShorTie> got me, just thinking maybe let it up to the user instead of capping them off
[11:41] <gordonDrogon> sorry - �1600 - http://www.chord.co.uk/blog/new-chord-ethernet-cables/
[11:42] <shiftplusone> chord... I see what they did there.
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[11:43] <shiftplusone> Why not pay $200,000 for an audio cable though? http://coconut-audio.com/unreal2TRS.html
[11:44] <ShorTie> wonder if it is just a cat6 cable instead of cat5
[11:45] <ShorTie> the 1 with the little plastic thing the supperates the pairs
[11:47] <shiftplusone> I've got to say though, I am yet to own a cat5 cable where the plastic clip thing didn't break off straight away.
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[11:48] <ShorTie> you must eat to many wheaties, lol.
[11:49] <evil_dan2wik> My Pi died at around 2:47AM last night.
[11:49] <shiftplusone> I had a feeling it didn't have long to live =(
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[11:51] <evil_dan2wik> The poly fuse kept blowing, I bypassed it and the ram on top of the CPU popped off.
[11:52] <shiftplusone> Not a great sign
[11:52] <evil_dan2wik> The regulator is fine still and I tested the lan chip and it works fine still.
[11:52] <shiftplusone> is this all with your ahm... 'modded' keyboard/hub ?
[11:52] <gordonDrogon> evil_dan2wik, photos ...
[11:52] <evil_dan2wik> Same Pi, But not connected since the first problems
[11:53] <ShorTie> time to breakout the hotair and put it back on
[11:53] <evil_dan2wik> I have no camera.
[11:53] <shiftplusone> hm
[11:53] <gordonDrogon> everyone has a phone with a camera these days..
[11:53] <evil_dan2wik> The CPU seems to heat up enough to de-solder itself
[11:53] <evil_dan2wik> The lense on my camera is damaged and doesn't focus.
[11:54] <evil_dan2wik> phone camera*
[11:54] <ShorTie> maybe since no poly fuse you need to cut the voltage input down a little, like 4.5v instead of 5v
[11:54] <shiftplusone> ShorTie, nuh
[11:55] <ShorTie> ok, was just thinking that it does drop some of the voltage
[11:55] <evil_dan2wik> TP1-2 give 4.53v anyway.
[11:56] <shiftplusone> it does, but under normal conditions, it's negligible.
[11:56] <shiftplusone> Once it trips though, 1) it needs time to recover 2) it might not recover 'fully'
[11:56] <evil_dan2wik> with the poly fuse, it becomes 2.73v
[11:57] <evil_dan2wik> The RPi chip runs off the 3.3v doesn't it?
[11:57] <shiftplusone> yup
[11:58] <shiftplusone> evil_dan2wik, out of curiosity, when you were overclocking did you only adjust frequencies or do other stuff too? Adjust thermal limit, overvolt and such?
[12:00] <evil_dan2wik> I did have it overvolted to 6 for the first 3 days but for the other 2 and a half weeks it was at 4
[12:01] <shiftplusone> any of force_turbo, current_limit_override or temp_limit>85 ?
[12:02] <evil_dan2wik> only force_turbo
[12:02] <shiftplusone> enough to void the warranty, but not enough to pop the RAM off, heh.
[12:03] <evil_dan2wik> I think the chip is dead inside
[12:03] <shiftplusone> I guess it just developed a short somewhere when the regulator was messed up.
[12:04] <evil_dan2wik> Nothing on the other side of the board is the source of the heat. it is the CPU that is heating up.
[12:04] <shiftplusone> yeah, I meant a short in the silicon.
[12:05] <ItsMeLenny> but i thought the raspi only had enough clock pins or something coming off it to produce stereo sound from the gpio
[12:05] <ItsMeLenny> if taht made any sense at all
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[12:05] <shiftplusone> ItsMeLenny, I can't decipher that =(
[12:06] <shiftplusone> Oh, I think I can.
[12:06] <ItsMeLenny> lol
[12:06] <ItsMeLenny> something to do with the pcm_clock
[12:06] <ItsMeLenny> oh maybe im confused
[12:06] <shiftplusone> Using just the GPIO, you can produce audio using the PWM, which is how the analog jack on it works (+ a filter)
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[12:07] <shiftplusone> But, you can connect a chip that does all of the heavy lifting
[12:07] <ItsMeLenny> yeah, thats what im talking about i think
[12:07] <ItsMeLenny> oh
[12:07] <gordonDrogon> it depends if you consider the P5 connector part of the gpio.
[12:07] <evil_dan2wik> could the audio jack be used for GPIO?
[12:07] <gordonDrogon> the P5 connector has access to the I2S connections...
[12:08] <gordonDrogon> evil_dan2wik, No.
[12:08] <evil_dan2wik> The P5 connector has a 2nd I2C interface on it doesn't it
[12:08] <ItsMeLenny> at one point i wanted to get my own video signal out of the GPIO pins, and somebody said that wouldnt be easily possible, or something, about you need some timing clock, which the one on the board is being used by the sound, so it could probably only generate a mono colour image and disable the sound
[12:08] <gordonDrogon> ItsMeLenny, no video - don't even try it - you'll never get a fast enough & stable clock for that.
[12:09] <shiftplusone> gordonDrogon, eh? what about spi displays?
[12:09] <gordonDrogon> shiftplusone, they're not video.
[12:09] <gordonDrogon> video as in RCA/Phono type composite video.
[12:09] <ItsMeLenny> gordonDrogon, something similar to the video out made for arduino
[12:09] <gordonDrogon> which you can do on an ATmega...
[12:09] <[SLB]> sorry to interrupt, how do i know which package a binary belongs to in raspbian?
[12:09] <gordonDrogon> ItsMeLenny, too much jitter no matter how you do it.
[12:10] <shiftplusone> [SLB], dpkg -s /path
[12:10] <shiftplusone> or was it -S ?
[12:10] <gordonDrogon> [SLB], dpkg -S /path/to/command
[12:10] <gordonDrogon> big S
[12:10] <[SLB]> thanks, checking
[12:10] <ItsMeLenny> ah
[12:10] <[SLB]> got it, thanks :)
[12:10] <shiftplusone> I still think you can get video to a SPI display =/
[12:11] <gordonDrogon> shiftplusone, sure - but it's not "video", it's a digital data stream to an LCD display.
[12:11] <ItsMeLenny> spi is a little different isnt it
[12:11] <ItsMeLenny> im talking about composite output :P
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[12:11] <shiftplusone> gordonDrogon, by that definition modern TVs don't display video? O_o
[12:12] <ItsMeLenny> but on the note of SPI, does that need to use the clock thing, as in will that disable audio
[12:12] <gordonDrogon> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBtS35qPmeo
[12:12] <gordonDrogon> that's neither SPI, not video, but it's making a moving display....
[12:12] <ItsMeLenny> shiftplusone, every input would convert the video signal to the data stream
[12:13] <ItsMeLenny> gordonDrogon, are you making a gameboy :P
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[12:13] <gordonDrogon> ItsMeLenny, no. that was just an old 128x64 display I had, so I wrote some code to drive it.
[12:14] <gordonDrogon> SPI has a separate clock.
[12:14] <gordonDrogon> but it's designed to transfer data not video.
[12:14] <ItsMeLenny> ah
[12:14] <shiftplusone> .... video is still video, whether it's transmitted digitally or not. >_< But anyway, I'll drop it.
[12:14] <gordonDrogon> although that data could be an image, and if you send enough images fast enough it might look like video.
[12:14] <ItsMeLenny> yeah
[12:15] <ItsMeLenny> well allegedly, not according to quinten tarrentino
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[12:15] <gordonDrogon> this is SPI: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlJ4NnV3RJY
[12:15] <gordonDrogon> I suppose it's video by one definition, but it's not a video signal like RCA/Composite/HDMI, etc.
[12:16] <shiftplusone> sure
[12:17] <shiftplusone> Hm... internet connection seems to be barely crawling. =/
[12:17] <gordonDrogon> ruralistan :)
[12:17] <shiftplusone> Well the speed is fine, but everything times out.
[12:18] <shiftplusone> Well... checking the router shows that my brother has a million open torrent connections.
[12:19] <shiftplusone> where one million is 547
[12:19] <gordonDrogon> block them..
[12:21] <gordonDrogon> Hm. must re-write that rainndrop program as a basic demo.
[12:22] <shiftplusone> k, told him to limit the connections and opened the port for him to prevent the DDOS >_<
[12:22] <[Saint]> heavy torrenting was taking the router down?
[12:23] <shiftplusone> not that heavy even
[12:23] <[Saint]> odd...what router is this?
[12:23] <ItsMeLenny> my brothers laptop keeps ddosing the wireless on my router, not sure how to fix it
[12:23] <shiftplusone> Netgear WNR3500L/U/v2 (Broadcom BCM4716)
[12:24] <shiftplusone> and the modem is... I don't know... some tplink one.
[12:24] <[Saint]> ItsMeLenny: QoS may be worth a look for traffic preference shaping.
[12:24] <gordonDrogon> the "fix" is to sned money on quality kit that can handle the load...
[12:24] <gordonDrogon> *spend
[12:24] <shiftplusone> Last time he visited I did QoS the hell out of it.
[12:25] <shiftplusone> but he wasn't too happy about it >.>
[12:25] <[Saint]> :)
[12:25] <[Saint]> gordonDrogon: that's why my "router"/firewall is a real machine.
[12:25] <gordonDrogon> same here.
[12:26] <[Saint]> I found that unless I spent foolish money, an off the shelf router couldn't do all the tricks, or the throughput, I needed.
[12:26] <ItsMeLenny> its because he is accessing from next door and his wifi drops out and reconnects constantly
[12:26] <gordonDrogon> although it might need upgrading when I get 300Mb fibre, but that's a year off yet.
[12:26] <evil_dan2wik> What is the fastest speed that the RPi's SPI interface can go
[12:26] <gordonDrogon> evil_dan2wik, 32Mb/sec.
[12:27] <[Saint]> I broadcast wireless N or G to about a dozen neighbors who pay me beans for it.
[12:27] <[Saint]> Plus access to 20GB of fileserver each.
[12:27] <[Saint]> I'm my own wee ISP.
[12:27] <gordonDrogon> why don'tthey just get their own?
[12:28] <[Saint]> It works out OK for me. They pay for ~80% of my connection.
[12:28] <[Saint]> *connections
[12:28] <evil_dan2wik> is it unlimited?
[12:28] <ItsMeLenny> yeah, and if you're in somewhere like australia, internet is incredibly expensive
[12:29] <[Saint]> 'tis indeed. 2 VDSL2 lines.
[12:29] <[Saint]> 'tis unlimited, I mean.
[12:29] <[Saint]> And expensive.
[12:29] <gordonDrogon> everyone here just has adsl to their homes now.
[12:30] <gordonDrogon> or cable.
[12:30] <[Saint]> I'm waiting in the fibre queue.
[12:30] <[Saint]> But mother nature decided I couldn;t have fibre 3 times in a row so far.
[12:30] <gordonDrogon> I'm hoping to get fibre when/if they install it to my town. however it's a stupidly high install fee.
[12:30] <[Saint]> Else I would've had fibre to the door 4 years ago. :-/
[12:31] <[Saint]> But, earthquakes and buried lines don't mix.
[12:31] <gordonDrogon> It might be a year away here.
[12:31] <[Saint]> And for some reason they flatly refuse to run above ground fibre.
[12:31] <[Saint]> Just, no. Not an option.
[12:31] <[Saint]> Its stupid.
[12:32] <gordonDrogon> I've no idea how they'll bring it into my house. the last hop is from a pole to the house.
[12:32] <[Saint]> SO much more expensive to pipe fibre below ground. Especially when you have to fix it repeatedly because mother nature said otherwise.
[12:32] <gordonDrogon> don't live in an earthquake zone...
[12:32] <[Saint]> But having *another* wire above ground, would be a travesty...apparently.
[12:33] <[Saint]> Even though we have above ground power and phone lines.
[12:33] <[Saint]> gordonDrogon: until ~4 years ago, I didn't. :)
[12:34] <[Saint]> It suddenly became one.
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[12:34] <ShorTie> they have fibre runnin down the electric poles here
[12:35] <ShorTie> cable tv fibre
[12:35] <shiftplusone> Hm, cable internet didn't seem to catch on.
[12:36] <[Saint]> Here cable is prohibitively expensive. And the plans are silly.
[12:36] <[Saint]> There are very few true unlimted plans here.
[12:37] <[Saint]> Like...2, or something. Both from the same provider.
[12:37] <shiftplusone> We had it for a while, with 'free' cable tv coming in as a side-effect.
[12:38] <shiftplusone> But it was slower than ADSL, so go figure.
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[12:38] <[Saint]> Yeah. I have two "free" phone lines with my VDSL.
[12:38] <ShorTie> don't know much about it, they just ran the cable pass me and will not put a drop in for me .. :/~
[12:39] <ShorTie> i've been thinking of target practicing, lol.
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[12:56] <evil_dan2wik> They have 32 ADSL ports in the phone hub that services over 250 houses so we don't get any land line coverage for internet..
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[13:02] <shiftplusone> quake bounty won =)
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[13:07] <SpeedEvil> Does anyone happen to have a recommendation for a USB camera that's OK with outdoor illumination levels (can take a fully sunlit frame) - is cheap, USB2? Ideally it'd cope with low light.
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[13:07] <SpeedEvil> lowish - 640*480
[13:08] <SpeedEvil> shiftplusone: By you?
[13:08] <shiftplusone> Simon Hall
[13:08] <shiftplusone> I would be lucky to get anything on the screen at all.
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[13:09] <SpeedEvil> Is the 'quake' driver a 'quake' driver, or is it something that will make other things possible
[13:12] <[SLB]> i tried a logitech c270 it was quite cheap, about 18 eur and 720p, one thing i didn't like much was the narrower field of view compared to an old creative 640*480/15fps i have
[13:13] <shiftplusone> SpeedEvil, from what I gather, it's a port of the android opengl es drivers that were released, so it should be usable for other things (but not any more useful than the blob + shim).
[13:13] <shiftplusone> I think the real useful stuff will come when there's a gallium/mesa implementation.
[13:13] <[SLB]> the autoexposure on the logitech was fine, although it was changing in a quite discrete way, not so continuous
[13:14] * SpeedEvil wishes there were proper 'open' cameras out there.
[13:15] <SpeedEvil> (at a reasonable price)
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[13:23] <[SLB]> hm, i don't want to talk too soon but, since yesterday when i removed some libboost, i haven't got that bad alloc error anymore, but to be sure, only time will tell eheh
[13:24] <SpeedEvil> Woo!
[13:25] <[SLB]> eheh
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[13:32] <sgiratch> What about the r-pi camera+
[13:32] <sgiratch> Anyone tried it?
[13:32] <evil_dan2wik> How many RPis would be the maximum without being insane?
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[13:33] <sgiratch> I plan to connect a camera to my pi in the next two weeks to watch my chickens hatch from the incubator :-D
[13:33] <[SLB]> that's nice :) rpi camera is very good
[13:34] <[SLB]> i read the software is now capable to handle up to 90fps from it, but i haven't tried it yet
[13:36] * SpeedEvil finds it annoying you can't connect arbitrary CSI cameras.
[13:36] * [SLB] agrees
[13:37] <SpeedEvil> Or DSI displays
[13:37] <[SLB]> the other connector is for a display?
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[13:39] <evil_dan2wik> The DSI adaptor, would that be able to interface with a phone screen?
[13:40] <[SLB]> i use an old nokia screen via gpio
[13:40] <evil_dan2wik> I am talking about a screen from an android phone
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[13:41] <[SLB]> ah ok eheh
[13:41] <SpeedEvil> evil_dan2wik: yes - it is a similar interface used on many high-end phones
[13:41] <evil_dan2wik> ok
[13:41] <SpeedEvil> It can likely connect a 1024*768 full video rate display, for example.
[13:41] <evil_dan2wik> ok
[13:42] <evil_dan2wik> I will try and find the pinout
[13:42] <SpeedEvil> evil_dan2wik: won't help at all.
[13:42] <evil_dan2wik> how?
[13:42] <SpeedEvil> evil_dan2wik: the software driver isn't there, and it's hooked to the GPU
[13:42] <SpeedEvil> you need a GPU driver
[13:42] <evil_dan2wik> ok...
[13:42] <evil_dan2wik> so the DSI port doesn't work at all?
[13:42] <Tachyon`> no
[13:42] <SpeedEvil> Correct.
[13:43] <Tachyon`> it needs binary blobbery which has as yet not been supplied
[13:43] <Tachyon`> over a year on
[13:43] <SpeedEvil> When the driver is released - with the alleged display board - it is likely it will only work with the released display.
[13:43] <Tachyon`> ugh
[13:43] <evil_dan2wik> Then why have the connector...
[13:44] <[SLB]> the camera also wasn't available at that time
[13:44] <evil_dan2wik> Why not just have unpopulated through hole connectors
[13:44] <Tachyon`> I dunno, bait and switch? maybe they didn't understand quite how unreasonable broadcom would be, not sure
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[13:49] <gordonDrogon> I was told it would work with any compatible display when I saw it demod.
[13:50] <gordonDrogon> therere's really no reason for it not to work with other displays - it's good standard I think.
[13:50] <gordonDrogon> http://unicorn.drogon.net/IMG_20140228_133235.jpg
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[13:51] <gordonDrogon> I'm somewhat surprised the interface board is so big though...
[13:52] <Tachyon`> what speed/voltage is the 328 on the gertboard? need a 16MHz 5v 328 and that one is likely to be borrowed
[13:52] <gordonDrogon> Tachyon`, it's 12MHz @ 3.3v
[13:52] <SpeedEvil> gordonDrogon: Well, yes.
[13:52] <Tachyon`> oh right
[13:52] <Tachyon`> exactly what I don't need then
[13:52] <SpeedEvil> gordonDrogon: But note that the camera display doesn't
[13:52] <Tachyon`> thought htey only came in 8s adn 16s though
[13:52] <gordonDrogon> Tachyon`, Gertduino...
[13:52] <SpeedEvil> camera interface
[13:52] <Tachyon`> nono
[13:52] <Tachyon`> I don't need the board
[13:52] <Tachyon`> I just needed the chip
[13:52] <Tachyon`> but I'll order one, was trying to avoid the wait
[13:52] <evil_dan2wik> Tachyon`, The Chip goes up to 20MHz, it depends on the crystal
[13:53] <gordonDrogon> Tachyon`, the Gertboard runs at 3.3v and 12MHz is the fastest the ATmega will run at 3.3v.
[13:53] <Tachyon`> yeah, but 3.3 still isn't 5 so no good, lol
[13:53] <gordonDrogon> evil_dan2wik, it dpeneds more on the voltage than the xtal.
[13:53] <Tachyon`> not important, I can wait
[13:53] <evil_dan2wik> well, it isn't recommended but you could try for 16MHz.
[13:53] <gordonDrogon> Tachyon`, just use an arduino...
[13:53] <Tachyon`> grrr
[13:54] <gordonDrogon> well - put one on a breadboar - it's easy enough.
[13:54] <Tachyon`> I am using an arduino, I do not need an arduino, I need a 328 chip, I already know what to do with it, I just don't have one
[13:54] <gordonDrogon> take it off the Arduino then :)
[13:54] <Tachyon`> the arduino has a 2560 SMD device, the pro mini has a 328 SMD device, neither of which are DIP
[13:54] <gordonDrogon> but if you have a Gertboard, just remove the chip.
[13:54] <Tachyon`> grrr
[13:54] <Tachyon`> why do you think I was asking what type it was?
[13:54] <evil_dan2wik> lol, non dip technology
[13:55] <gordonDrogon> it's an ATmega328. It will run at 20MHz - it's just that the Gertboard only runs it at 12MHz.
[13:55] <Tachyon`> there are 3.3 and 5v chips thoug haye?
[13:55] <gordonDrogon> no
[13:55] <evil_dan2wik> no, all 5v
[13:55] <Tachyon`> oh right, it's just how they're used?
[13:55] <gordonDrogon> all ATmegas will run from 2.5 to 5v.
[13:55] <Tachyon`> ah, okay, thatwill do then, lol
[13:55] <Tachyon`> I'm sure I saw an ebayer sellign 3.3/5v chips thouhg
[13:55] <Tachyon`> assumed that was how they came
[13:56] <gordonDrogon> if it's been setup on a Gertboard you may need to change the fuses to run with a crystal rather than the ceramic oscillator.
[13:56] <Tachyon`> http://kupo.be/ab/keyboard5.jpg <- keyboard has finished anyway
[13:56] <evil_dan2wik> gordonDrogon, You say all atmegas but that is wrong.
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[13:56] <gordonDrogon> but I think I set them for a low-power crystal oscillator anyway. so a 16MHz xtal and the 2 caps. should "just work".
[13:56] <evil_dan2wik> Their ARM chips are 3.6v max
[13:56] <Tachyon`> interpreter is currently running on a 2560 but will be using a 1284 with 328 for I/O
[13:56] <gordonDrogon> evil_dan2wik, ok - ATmega328's.
[13:57] <sgiratch> Tachyon`: hah, fancy keyboard
[13:57] <Tachyon`> you might remember similar keyboards from the spectrum and bbc/electron
[13:57] <gordonDrogon> Tachyon`, Ye Gods! What's that for? You building a retro BASIC PC?
[13:57] <Tachyon`> which coincidentally are the machines I grew up learning on
[13:57] <Tachyon`> well, yes, arduino based with shield compatibility
[13:57] <Tachyon`> so it's a self contained device that can do robotics and so on
[13:57] <gordonDrogon> neat.
[13:58] <gordonDrogon> what's the interpreter?
[13:58] <Tachyon`> one sec, rats nest
[13:58] <Tachyon`> mine
[13:58] <gordonDrogon> ok
[13:58] <Tachyon`> http://kupo.be/ab/abhh20140227.jpg
[13:58] <Tachyon`> that's how it looked a month ago pre keyboard
[13:58] <Tachyon`> but the display/etc. aren't final
[13:58] <gordonDrogon> wondered if it was bitlash or something.
[13:58] <Tachyon`> no, I wrote my own interpreter
[13:59] <gordonDrogon> well done.
[13:59] <gordonDrogon> (join the club :)
[13:59] <Tachyon`> well, not so much, it only handles long ints atm
[13:59] <Tachyon`> no FP yet
[13:59] <Tachyon`> ahh, thankyou -.o
[13:59] <Tachyon`> is first attempt at that
[14:00] <Tachyon`> I'm trying to seperate OS/Basic functions (like the BBC) so most I/O can run on the slave 328 with just the 1284 for interpreting code etc.
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[14:00] <Tachyon`> (also the 1284 has 16K of internal RAM which helps, although I have 384K of SPI RAM on that one)
[14:00] <gordonDrogon> that's not a sharp PC1211 in the background, is it?
[14:00] <Tachyon`> no, it's a casio fx-730p but close
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[14:00] <gordonDrogon> ah, I just zoomed in - yea.
[14:01] <gordonDrogon> I have the TRS80 Pocket computer - which is the PC1211 by another name.
[14:01] <Tachyon`> had it since I was 12 or so, stilll working well
[14:01] <Tachyon`> although the protective plastic from the LCD is long ago lost
[14:01] <gordonDrogon> yea, I show mine to kids and tell them it runs BASIC and is > 30 years old :)
[14:01] <gordonDrogon> with 1500 bytes of RAM.
[14:01] <Tachyon`> ahh, this has a whacking 8K of RAM, 7.5ish available
[14:01] <evil_dan2wik> Tachyon`, a little messy. What does it do?
[14:02] <Tachyon`> it tells you to read up
[14:02] <Tachyon`> and it's messy because it's a prototype, they generally do not start neat
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[14:02] <evil_dan2wik> I did read up but I don't see where you say what it is.
[14:02] <gordonDrogon> I had a plan at one point to be able to download a procedure written in my RTB/FUZE BASIC into an ATmega and have it interpreted there - however the run-time just wouldn't fit when I got round to thinking about it.
[14:03] <Tachyon`> a general purpose computer for electronics hackery, robotics etc.
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[14:03] <evil_dan2wik> ok, sounds nice.
[14:03] <Tachyon`> expect final unit to do basic interpreters, logic probe, protocol analyser and some basic 0-5v scopeing if I can get that to work (there seems to be an upper limit on sample speed)
[14:03] <gordonDrogon> 125Ks/sec IIRC.
[14:04] <gordonDrogon> on a single channel.
[14:04] <Tachyon`> oh, that's better than I was expecting
[14:04] <gordonDrogon> divide by the number of analog channels you're sampling though.
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[14:04] <Tachyon`> well, yes, but it's not intended as a replacement for a proper scope, just to be better than nothing
[14:04] <gordonDrogon> and check the hardware - it suggests throwing away the first sample after switching the input mux.
[14:04] <gordonDrogon> should be able to grab a second of audio though.
[14:05] <Tachyon`> well, 384K of RAM isn't much
[14:05] <Tachyon`> when sampling at silly speeds
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[14:05] <Tachyon`> but yeah, a bit
[14:05] <Tachyon`> need to get the new displays though
[14:05] <Tachyon`> the ones you see in teh pic aren't final
[14:06] <Tachyon`> going with a 320x240 TFT now and a 128x64 low power display
[14:06] <gordonDrogon> you need more flash for the font data with a pure graphical display though.
[14:07] <gordonDrogon> I've just written a font editor for my FUZE BASIC too - I didn't like the one I had. Not sure I like my new one, but 8x10 is a funny font size.
[14:07] <Tachyon`> yes, I realise that but the 328 will be doing the displays so it'll be fine
[14:07] <Tachyon`> ah, 40x24 on a 320x240 display?
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[14:08] <gordonDrogon> well - the display on the Pi is variable size.
[14:08] <gordonDrogon> and I can now scale the font in separate X&Y ways too.
[14:08] <Tachyon`> 6x8 font, 4x6 font, 8x12 font are what'll be included, about 6K of font data
[14:09] <Tachyon`> on a 328 that's not much
[14:09] <gordonDrogon> sure
[14:09] <Tachyon`> the dictionary/speech is another 8
[14:09] <Tachyon`> then it's just the code to deal with the devices adn the serial link, easy
[14:09] <gordonDrogon> is this an allophone based speech generator?
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[14:09] <Tachyon`> it is
[14:09] <Tachyon`> althoug not my work, found it online
[14:09] <Tachyon`> clearly ripped off from superior software speech for the bbc micro
[14:10] <gordonDrogon> I think I had that ...
[14:10] <Tachyon`> (IE: the only english full words in dictionary are superior/software/computer)
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[14:10] <Tachyon`> which is a bit of a hiint as to where it came from..
[14:10] <gordonDrogon> I'ev just done bbc micro sound emulation in my basic too. that was .... interesting.
[14:10] <Tachyon`> ahh, nice -.o
[14:11] <gordonDrogon> I think I now know more about how the bbc sound works than I did 30 years ago when I was using it.
[14:11] <Tachyon`> passing that to the 328 so it doesn't block execution when speaking
[14:11] <gordonDrogon> good idea.
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[14:11] <gordonDrogon> put it together as a kickstarter - make a retro computer - type project :)
[14:11] <Tachyon`> it'll be interesting to see how it ends up anyway, I will be open sourcing as I go
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[14:12] <Tachyon`> well, once the design is final I'll be having 10 made with proper PCBs etc.
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[14:12] <Tachyon`> then will start waving them at people and attempting to interest them in mass production
[14:12] <gordonDrogon> :)
[14:12] <Tachyon`> if that doesn't work, kickstarter, aye
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[14:13] <Tachyon`> I'm very interested to see that some people have got 6502 code running on AVR at twice BBC speed
[14:13] <Tachyon`> in only 8K of emulator, I'm seriously pondering adding that so old BBC language etc. ROMS can be used
[14:14] <gordonDrogon> really? that surprises me - still, 16MHz when the beeb was 2MHz - they must have a very efficient emulator in assembler ...
[14:14] <Tachyon`> lthough it'd need a rewrite to use SPI RAM
[14:14] <Tachyon`> and get slower of course
[14:14] <Tachyon`> aye, I don't know avr asm (yet!)
[14:14] <Tachyon`> but did do 6502 and Z80 back in teh day
[14:14] <gordonDrogon> I've done a small amount. it's not a bad instruction set.
[14:15] <Tachyon`> so at least I'll understand what I'm emulating
[14:15] <gordonDrogon> much prefer to stick to C though.
[14:15] <Tachyon`> well, most of it will remain in C obviously, but time critical sections
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[14:16] <Tachyon`> not sure whether to go with GPL2 or the MIT license
[14:16] <gordonDrogon> gpl should encourage people to controbute back - mit is do what you want..
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[14:17] <Tachyon`> hrm, GPL sounds more suitable then
[14:17] <Tachyon`> it's certainly proving an interesting project (never designed a computer before, lol)
[14:18] <gordonDrogon> yea - do keep a blog, then self-publish on amazon :)
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[14:30] <evil_dan2wik> good night
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[15:06] <SopaXorzTaker> Hi!
[15:06] <SopaXorzTaker> Got a raspi for my BD and wanna ask a question: What to do?\
[15:06] <SopaXorzTaker> :?
[15:06] <gordonDrogon> what do you want to do?
[15:06] <SopaXorzTaker> I dont know, its the question/
[15:07] <shiftplusone> could take a nap
[15:07] <gordonDrogon> it's original intention was to help people learn computing.
[15:09] <SopaXorzTaker> make a digital auto flowerpot?
[15:09] <gordonDrogon> so getting it setup, plugged in and generating a picture would be a start.
[15:09] <SopaXorzTaker> or a automatic nilclipper?
[15:09] <gordonDrogon> you could write a program to generate flowers...
[15:09] <SopaXorzTaker> LOl
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[15:37] <[Saint]> Not sure why that's lol.
[15:38] <[Saint]> Drawing simple arbitrary shapes is a great excercise.
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[15:38] <[Saint]> I think one of the first thing I ever wrote was a program to generate a polyhedron of N sides.
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[15:39] <[Saint]> Then a pong clone in Amstrad BASIC
[15:39] * [Saint] loved that 6128
[15:42] <[Saint]> You can still get them. About $200 NZD. Tempting.
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[15:45] <SpeedEvil> A little unit with two small webcams, a solenoid to control a sprayer, and a pi to turn on and off the solenoid when something was directly in the path of the spray would be fun
[15:45] <SpeedEvil> Reduce spray usage by 90% in many cases
[15:45] <blockh34d-zZz> ohh a logo emulator for pi would be awesome
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[15:45] <gordonDrogon> I think that was done a while back -
[15:45] <gordonDrogon> someone wanted to deter cats.
[15:45] <blockh34d-zZz> or turtle graphics whatever you want to call it
[15:46] <gordonDrogon> RTB BASIC for the Pi has tutle graphics.
[15:46] <SpeedEvil> gordonDrogon: Similar idea - but with no servo.
[15:46] <gordonDrogon> turtle was just a part of logo, but it's the part that made it fun.
[15:46] <SpeedEvil> gordonDrogon: I was inspired when spraying apple trees, and 95% of spray missing them
[15:47] <blockh34d-zZz> it really was
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[15:47] <blockh34d-zZz> i think logo taught me some stuff about programming
[15:47] <blockh34d-zZz> i dont really know what but its there, somwhere
[15:47] <SirLagz> is there a way to properly check what frequency my Pi is running at ?
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[15:47] <gordonDrogon> http://hackaday.com/2011/05/25/automated-hose-keeps-cats-from-watering-you/
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[15:47] <SirLagz> I seem to remember a command that would tell me how fast it was running at but can't seem to find it
[15:48] <blockh34d> does top give any info like that?
[15:48] <gordonDrogon> /opt/vc/bin/vcgencmd measure_clock arm
[15:48] <shiftplusone> SirLagz, check vcgencmd commands maybe
[15:48] <shiftplusone> or that
[15:48] <SirLagz> gordonDrogon: thanks !
[15:49] <SirLagz> hmm it didn't overclock
[15:49] <shiftplusone> are you sure you're not just running some power saving governor?
[15:50] <shiftplusone> echo "ondemand" > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor; echo 70 > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpufreq/ondemand/up_threshold;
[15:50] <shiftplusone> and then do something that eats CPU
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[15:51] <SpeedEvil> gordonDrogon: I especially like https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=uIbkLjjlMV8#t=201
[15:51] <SpeedEvil> 'now it's time to...
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[15:51] <SirLagz> and I just realised that it was the cpufreq thing after I rebooted lol
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[15:52] <dagerik> I got arch installed and webcam plugged in. How do I take a picture using terminal?
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[15:56] <SirLagz> woo 900mhz overclock
[15:56] <SirLagz> let's see how long this lasts for
[15:57] <[SLB]> i have configured mine between 500 and 900, it's been over a year i believe eheh
[15:57] <SirLagz> I'm running mine at 900mhz all the time now
[16:00] <shiftplusone> no trouble here at 1GHz
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[16:00] <shiftplusone> unless I start nudging up other frequencies.
[16:00] <SirLagz> shiftplusone: I'll try to run it at 900mhz 24/7 for a while, if no issues I'll bump it up to 1ghz :D
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[16:01] <shiftplusone> manually or using raspi-config?
[16:01] <[SLB]> i don't remember whether i got sd corruption at 1ghz, but it probably was a long ago, maybe the kernel was still confused at that time
[16:01] <CDR`> The last PC I tried to overclock was my P100 and it friend the mobo because I was a noob. Wont do it again lol
[16:02] <SirLagz> shiftplusone: i used raspi-config to get it to 900mhz
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[16:02] <SirLagz> shiftplusone: but I'll do it manually to get it to 1ghz so that I don't do the other freqs
[16:02] <[SLB]> my p1 still kicking from 166 to 200 lol
[16:02] <shiftplusone> that's what I had to do
[16:02] <shiftplusone> raspi-config's 1GHz kills my pi, but if I use the 900MHz settings and nudge up arm freq, it's fine.
[16:03] <SirLagz> sounds like a plan then :D
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[16:13] <blockh34d> i have my pi cranked up to maximum, never any problems here
[16:13] <shiftplusone> maximum?
[16:16] <blockh34d> yes highest overclock overvoltage etc you can select in raspi-config
[16:16] <shiftplusone> ah
[16:16] <blockh34d> maximum overdrive! like the movie
[16:16] <blockh34d> except my pi isnt trying to kill anyone
[16:17] <blockh34d> i wonder what a rampaging homicidal raspberry pi would be like... still sounds pretty harmless
[16:17] <blockh34d> seen the movie maximum overdrive?
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[16:17] <shiftplusone> nope
[16:17] <blockh34d> one day all the machines start killin ghumans
[16:18] <blockh34d> etc
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[16:18] <blockh34d> its a pretty good movie i think, one of the better stephen king stories turned to a movie
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[16:19] <blockh34d> i need betatesters, if anyone wants a free copy of a UI app i made for omxplayer, let me know and i'll send you a link
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[16:22] <Poison[BLX]> is it bad that I read that, got to "UI app" thought "Sure!" and then read the rest, saw it was you, and realized I already have?
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[16:23] <blockh34d> haha no
[16:24] <blockh34d> i just want to figure ou what the problem is with this app on my pistore testers machine
[16:24] <blockh34d> oh his machine when they exit the app, curses doesnt restore stdout and it looks froze
[16:24] <blockh34d> and i cant duplicate that problem here or anywhere
[16:25] <blockh34d> Poison[BLX]: have you had any issues or problems?
[16:25] <blockh34d> with my app that is, not in general
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[16:26] <dagerik> how can I record video with my webcam from an arch install?
[16:27] <blockh34d> ffmpeg?
[16:27] <blockh34d> i know it can take still image captures, seems like it could probably encode full video too
[16:30] <dagerik> my goal is to stream video from rpi with connected usb webcam
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[16:36] <SirLagz> dagerik: ffmpeg can stream video with ffserver
[16:36] <SirLagz> dagerik: or you could use motion
[16:36] <blockh34d> hmm i think netcat and ffmpeg
[16:36] <blockh34d> and mplayer
[16:36] <blockh34d> all humped into a big pile could do it
[16:36] <SirLagz> dagerik: can your webcam support mjpeg format ?
[16:36] <SirLagz> blockh34d: don't even need all that :P
[16:36] <Poison[BLX]> blockh34d: I like that you narrow it down :P .. I've been spending more time in weston/wayland sourcecode than's healthy since I last loaded up scamp, but I didn't run into that issue at any time playing with it. Any chance you can get a clear list of distro, kernel, library versions of what they're running to replicate it? I have a spare SD card I can play with it on this evening.
[16:37] <blockh34d> oh ok great cause it sounds like too much
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[16:37] <[SLB]> dagerik, i wrote this some time ago about webcam streaming, maybe it can help www.slblabs.com/2012/09/26/rpi-webcam-stream/
[16:37] <blockh34d> Poison[BLX]: hey maybe, i'll try and let you know if i have any luck... They've now tried fresh rasbian installs, wiping card etc etc, all the same results
[16:37] <blockh34d> i'm really confused by the whole thing
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[16:40] <blockh34d> i think theres a project for remote rpicam/webcam streaming and web viewing
[16:40] <blockh34d> that a lot of people use... i forget the name but its almost what i typed, very plain-english title
[16:40] <SirLagz> if the webcam supports mjpeg, it's easy enough to just install motion
[16:40] <SirLagz> and use motion to stream
[16:40] <blockh34d> cool i havent tried that one
[16:41] <blockh34d> sounds good for security cams
[16:41] <SirLagz> blockh34d: exactly what I use motion for :D
[16:41] <blockh34d> yah i'm trying to stream video to a HUD
[16:41] <blockh34d> so i'll probably need to decode it, process it some, then make a new image of GUI composite with source image, then display that
[16:41] <blockh34d> so a little different scenario
[16:42] <blockh34d> i think i'm going to try opencv for that
[16:42] <SirLagz> ah yep cool
[16:43] <ioudas> has anyone ever played with symbol scanners connected to a pi? Did you ever have repeat keyboard issues
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[16:43] <blockh34d> my wireless kb has a repeat issue all the time but its not the rpi's fault
[16:43] <blockh34d> happens on windoze too
[16:44] <troulouliou_dev> hi what is the best solution to trigger on/off 220v power with the gpios ?
[16:44] <blockh34d> relays?
[16:44] <blockh34d> opto-isolators?
[16:44] <blockh34d> i dont really know but i think i'd be starting with those and looking into it from there
[16:45] <blockh34d> ioudas you may like opencv? i believe it has symbol scanning support 8 different ways
[16:45] <blockh34d> can probably scan them out of realtime video streams upside down and skewed
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[16:49] <gordonDrogon> troulouliou_dev, if you're not sure, then there are USB power switchers available.
[16:49] <gordonDrogon> troulouliou_dev, you just plug them into the USB sockets, plug them into the mains and they provide switched outlets via simple commands over the USB.
[16:49] <Poison[BLX]> ioudas: when you say repeat keyboard issues, do you mean press a key, it goes 'down' but doesn't come 'up' when released? I've seen that a LOT on my pi when I grab the wrong power source.
[16:50] <gordonDrogon> Poison[BLX], I get that too. Seems to be worse when I run minecraft or enable audio )-:
[16:50] <blockh34d> gordonDrogon: i like the sound of your idea, i think someone could smoke their pi pretty easy plugging it into 220
[16:50] <Poison[BLX]> USB tends to be the first thing to go flaky with too little power.
[16:50] <troulouliou_dev> gordonDrogon, yes i saw those ;
[16:51] <Poison[BLX]> in my experience *
[16:51] <troulouliou_dev> gordonDrogon, the relay approach is not good ?
[16:51] <troulouliou_dev> gordonDrogon, ha the usb one seems cool thanks
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[16:51] <blockh34d> i think relay could be problem with spark gaps
[16:51] <blockh34d> and energy jumping around unexpected
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[16:51] <blockh34d> thats why i mentioned optoisolators
[16:52] <blockh34d> they trigger the energy flow with light so theres no way for the big juice to get near the little juice device
[16:53] <ioudas> yeah, its a scanner ls400o i from symbol. they scan and it just repeats all over the pi
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[16:55] <ioudas> blockh34d, i have no idea what youre getting at
[16:55] <blockh34d> funky. I don't know... i'd say maybe look at your keyboard repeat rate but thats just treating a symptom
[16:55] <blockh34d> ioudas the previous few statements were fro troulouliou_dev who is trying to control a 220v device with an rpi
[16:56] <blockh34d> ioudas: i should hav eprefixed my messages better, i'm horrible about that.
[16:57] <troulouliou_dev> blockh34d, i like the gordon approach i just wanted to know it there is a special board now designed for pi ?
[16:57] <blockh34d> yah i think the prefab approach is better
[16:57] <troulouliou_dev> blockh34d, there was the spkang or something in the past but it would consume all the 26 pins if im not wrong
[16:58] <blockh34d> its already tested, less likely to blow something up
[16:58] <troulouliou_dev> blockh34d, yes thats it
[16:58] <troulouliou_dev> blockh34d, ill stick to it then thanks :)
[16:58] <blockh34d> but couldnt hurt to read up on th eprinciples
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[17:00] <[SLB]> i think there are optocoupled relays that work fine with the rasp, those blue relays for arduino
[17:01] <troulouliou_dev> [SLB], was thinking of that approach too but after rethinking about the risk of fire ... i think the gordonDrogon approach is the best
[17:02] <[SLB]> eheh
[17:02] <troulouliou_dev> i saw those earlier while searching but when i looked at the picture i saw it was an universal 5V charger :)
[17:03] <troulouliou_dev> and skipped :)
[17:03] <ioudas> blockh34d, now you leave me even more confused
[17:03] <[SLB]> i'm just googling too but i find mostly usb hubs with switches on each port, what are they properly called?
[17:03] <troulouliou_dev> gordonDrogon, any model you prefer amongst all ?
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[17:04] <blockh34d> ioudas: very sorry, i think i can not help you with your problem i don't understand it and have not had similar problem myself
[17:05] <troulouliou_dev> [SLB], mine was really an usb charger :) : http://www.socloz.com/product/legrand-bloc-1-prise-precablee-1-prise-double-usb-celiane
[17:05] <blockh34d> but good luck, feel free to describe it further and maybe something will occur to the channel
[17:05] <[SLB]> oh eheh
[17:05] <[SLB]> oh usb controlled power strip maybe
[17:07] <[SLB]> http://www.wired.com/2010/07/usb-power-strip-controlled-by-pc/
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[17:09] <troulouliou_dev> [SLB], friend of mine are using knx or zwave solution with their pi but u just nned to control 4 outlet
[17:09] <[SLB]> nice eheh
[17:11] <blockh34d> www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=7855 about controlling 240 appliance with rpi
[17:12] <Poison[BLX]> troulouliou_dev: 1) mandatory disclaimer: playing with 110/220v is dangerous to both health and home, fire/shock/death can occur, and from a legal side, many areas have requirements on equipment plugged into mains being certified, etc (i.e. insurance won't cover it if you burn your house down, and you will be liable for both fire fighting costs and damages, + potential legal reprocussions) 2) the hardware you should use to switch is almost entire
[17:12] <IT_Sean> Also... if it all goes wrong, #raspberrypi is NOT RESPONSIBLE.
[17:13] <blockh34d> all very good points
[17:13] <Poison[BLX]> ^ +1
[17:13] <troulouliou_dev> Poison[BLX], thats my concern ... do you have any hardware recomendation ?
[17:13] <atouk> work with 110 every day. 220 scares the crap out of me
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[17:13] <troulouliou_dev> i saw this one or related :http://hackspark.fr/fr/8-channel-5v-relay-module-5v-250vac-10a.html
[17:13] <Poison[BLX]> troulouliou_dev: what do you want to power on/off? how many watts? what duty cycle?
[17:13] <troulouliou_dev> but my ither concern is that it require all the 26 pins to be connected to it (it seems)
[17:14] <IT_Sean> #raspberrypi is not responsible if you damage your raspi, burn your house down, destroy equipment, if your truck breaks down, if your girl leaves you, or if your dog dies (what is this!? A country song??!)
[17:14] <blockh34d> http://nl.farnell.com/isocom/is6015x/optocoupler-dip-6-triac-o-p/dp/1683237 i think this is something like what you want, on a component level
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[17:14] <troulouliou_dev> Poison[BLX], i need to power/on off 4 250w lamp
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[17:14] <blockh34d> country music played backwards is so uplifting
[17:15] <blockh34d> you get a dog, a girlfriend, a truck, and a job
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[17:15] <troulouliou_dev> IT_Sean, any garanty for the hamster tough ? :)
[17:15] <shiftplusone> heh
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[17:15] <IT_Sean> ...
[17:15] <xrosnight> so many guys here
[17:16] <IT_Sean> 401 people.
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[17:19] <shiftplusone> used to have something in the 800 region, didn't we?
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[17:21] <shiftplusone> Hm, probably not. I remember we were somewhere just below ##c and ##electronics and they seem to have 500-600 people, so 800 doesn't sound right.
[17:22] <xrosnight> i want to buy a Macbook Pro with Retina monitor. And install linux on it. Is gnome/KDE/xfce4 or etc. compatiable with Retina screen ???
[17:22] <blockh34d> i think rpi usage could go through the roof if it were to cultivate the right indy game scene
[17:23] <troulouliou_dev> Poison[BLX], no idea ?
[17:23] <shiftplusone> meh.... indies are overrated
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[17:23] <blockh34d> sure but its not that the games are good
[17:23] <blockh34d> its that they are the users
[17:23] <blockh34d> the users games that is
[17:24] <shiftplusone> yeah
[17:24] <blockh34d> i think if it were properly 'social' enough, ie integrated chat / multiuser environment, peole would use it as part game, part hangout, part learning
[17:24] <blockh34d> kind of like irc with graphics
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[17:24] <blockh34d> and pong
[17:24] <blockh34d> i think it'd be fun if they did it right
[17:24] <shiftplusone> I suppose that was sort of the idea behind the pi store
[17:24] <blockh34d> yah
[17:24] <blockh34d> well that sure is a pita
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[17:25] <blockh34d> i'm at two weeks now, daily effort trying to get my app in store
[17:25] <blockh34d> nothing but troubles
[17:25] <blockh34d> its almost enough for me to say f- it
[17:25] <blockh34d> its not like i'm making any money off it, how much of this could i really afford. I'm poor.
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[17:26] <blockh34d> i'm giving some serious thought to making my own sort of pi store
[17:26] <blockh34d> basically making something like xbmc but for homebrew games as well as media center operation
[17:27] <xrosnight> blockh34d: what did u do
[17:27] <blockh34d> then make the game getting process kind of like little big planet, where people can post their creations and you can pick from lots of them
[17:27] <blockh34d> xrosnight: made a ui for omxplayer
[17:27] <blockh34d> real simple and basic, seems very helpful for me so i wanted to get it out there for people
[17:27] <blockh34d> would you like a copy? i need testers
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[17:30] <Poison[BLX]> troulouliou_dev: 240 watts per lamp? Seems like some hefty lighting, but still, a 220/240v 5a SSR *should* handle it without serious issues. You have to be careful with how much power you run through the pi's gpio, though. Here's a good writeup on that part of it: http://www.susa.net/wordpress/2012/06/raspberry-pi-relay-using-gpio/
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[17:31] <blockh34d> troulouliou_dev: ohh i see, you're doing fun stuff m8! good luck
[17:31] <troulouliou_dev> blockh34d, ?
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[17:31] <blockh34d> switching high wattage lamps with rpi? yes please!
[17:31] <blockh34d> also a sprinkler system ftw
[17:32] <troulouliou_dev> blockh34d, i just need to basically switch on/off external parking lamp based on value from a light detector
[17:32] <blockh34d> lol i bet there are some really good home garden automation projects
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[17:32] <blockh34d> lights, pumps, o2 regulation, the whole 9 i'm sure
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[17:33] <troulouliou_dev> blockh34d, yes but i already use the pi with 5 foscam so wanted an all in one
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[17:33] <blockh34d> whats a foscam?
[17:33] <troulouliou_dev> blockh34d, ? i don't get you
[17:33] <IT_Sean> It's a brand of IP cam
[17:33] <blockh34d> oh i see thanks
[17:33] <troulouliou_dev> blockh34d, a pretty well know ip cameras
[17:34] <blockh34d> yah i am bad with names/titles
[17:34] <Poison[BLX]> note, the reasons for the SSR vs a standard mechanical relay: 1) built in isolation, 2) AC targetted *should* do zero-crossing based switching, 3) no bounce, shouldn't have backfeed/inductive issues trigger-side, and should be low interference.
[17:34] <blockh34d> yah all very important concerns for sure
[17:35] <blockh34d> are optoisolators a type of SSR?
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[17:35] <troulouliou_dev> Poison[BLX], but classic relay + optocoupler have the same properties no ?
[17:35] <troulouliou_dev> optoisolators sorry
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[17:36] <blockh34d> no i think it is actually optocoupler
[17:36] <blockh34d> like i said i'm horrible with names/titles/vocab
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[17:36] <Poison[BLX]> they still have the bounce and interference on the mechanical side
[17:36] <blockh34d> maybe the worst ever
[17:36] <Poison[BLX]> and they don't do zero-crossing switching without some elaborate work (i.e. re-inventing the SSR, typically)
[17:36] <troulouliou_dev> Poison[BLX], but it won't travel the optocoupler if i understand corr"ectly
[17:37] <troulouliou_dev> Poison[BLX], ok
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[17:38] <troulouliou_dev> Poison[BLX], so this one are really bad : http://hackspark.fr/fr/8-channel-5v-relay-module-5v-250vac-10a.html
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[17:38] <Poison[BLX]> which really is more aimed at the dimming side of concerns, as well as pumps, etc... on the 'on/off' of a light bulb at a low rate it's not as much a concern.
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[17:39] <Poison[BLX]> I can't say they're bad, necessarily, but they're not what I'd recommend.
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[17:40] <troulouliou_dev> Poison[BLX], ok ; my main concern is that i m living in a country where there is a lot of blackouts; i m using a timer for outside lamps; but the timer stops with the blackouts ...
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[17:41] <troulouliou_dev> Poison[BLX], i tough about the pi has my security system is using one
[17:42] <troulouliou_dev> switching 4 gpio on/off 2 times per day seems a perfect case for he pi ; i just tought before searching that there where tons of cards available
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[17:47] <troulouliou_dev> Poison[BLX], if i understand correctly the best would be a pi dedicated card with SSR but it does not exists yet
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[17:51] <blockh34d> troulouliou_dev: maybe you could modify your timer to use a battery backup? or maybe one already exists? or maybe a solar powered timer?
[17:52] <blockh34d> just brainstorming a little, i used to live in Egypt for a while so i can understand, the power was a bit shakey there too
[17:53] <troulouliou_dev> blockh34d, solar is too expensive here and impossible to find; i have a nitram leader ups; but the battery is only lasting 5 minutes (0 after 1 year of use due to bad current quality)
[17:53] <blockh34d> oh yah i had a ups like that back in the day
[17:53] <blockh34d> real flakey
[17:53] <troulouliou_dev> blockh34d, im in that situation :)
[17:53] <blockh34d> theres no timers that use a basic 9v backup power source? like an alarm clock would?
[17:54] <troulouliou_dev> blockh34d, no i searched for but did not find
[17:54] <blockh34d> seems like someone would offer that product at a reasonable price
[17:54] <blockh34d> well theres a kickstarter idea for yuo
[17:54] <troulouliou_dev> blockh34d, i mean here ; pretty sure there is in europe; may be a good lead btw
[17:54] <blockh34d> that seems like a no brainer, i wonder what the problem is
[17:54] <blockh34d> oh yah maybe its some sor tof weird security restriction
[17:55] <blockh34d> like you'd make bombs with it or something so we dont export to where you are? ridiculous if so.
[17:55] <troulouliou_dev> pi seems good t me cause ot autostart/ synchronize over ntp; don't use lot of power ..
[17:55] <blockh34d> oh pis are just awesome all around
[17:55] <blockh34d> yah it'll dominate this task i'm sure
[17:55] <Encrypt> troulouliou_dev, What are you doing?
[17:55] <blockh34d> you'll be switching your lights on/off from your phone in no time
[17:55] <troulouliou_dev> blockh34d, there isn't pi here too i just brang 2 in my case from a trip in europe
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[17:56] <blockh34d> oh better be careful with them then
[17:56] <blockh34d> wheres here btw?
[17:56] <troulouliou_dev> Encrypt, just chit chat a bout a system to switch on/off 4 lamp
[17:56] <Encrypt> Ok
[17:56] <Encrypt> And you want it to be automatic?
[17:57] <troulouliou_dev> Encrypt, yes based on a light sensor
[17:58] <troulouliou_dev> Encrypt, or just based on local clock
[17:59] <Encrypt> If you want it based on a light sensor, then that's pretty overkilled
[17:59] <Encrypt> A simple microcontroller will do the job
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[17:59] <Encrypt> Or even simple analogic electronics
[17:59] <Encrypt> If you want it based on time, then a RPi is a good idea
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[18:16] <Poison[BLX]> one concern with a pi for it as the timer... is that a pi has no rtc to fall back on when it boots, so if it powers off and back on, and can't sync to ntp any reason, it'll have an incorrect clock. Also, if it's dealing with frequent blackouts (and particularly brownouts), watch out for file corruption if you have it doing more than sitting idle most of the time.
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[18:17] <Poison[BLX]> and sorry on the sporadic, oddball, delays. IRC from work and all that ;)
[18:17] <troulouliou_dev> Poison[BLX], :)
[18:17] <troulouliou_dev> Poison[BLX], i have my ntp script for time :)
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[18:24] <gordonDrogon> there are many RTCs for the Pi now.
[18:25] <gordonDrogon> e.g. Gertduino has one on-board.
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[18:27] <Davespice> hey gordonDrogon
[18:27] <gordonDrogon> afternoon da
[18:27] <gordonDrogon> Doh.
[18:27] <Davespice> I'm sat in a hotel room in San Francisco at the moment with 20 of them
[18:27] <Davespice> waiting for some robots to turn up
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[18:36] <ellie_fitzy> what is a good interactive project for beginners using the raspberry pi?
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[18:37] <ShorTie> make a led blink
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[18:39] <ellie_fitzy> ShorTie: I am trying to find something larger that I can work backwards with.... trying to get teenage girls interested....
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[18:41] <Encrypt> A kind of game in which the players have to be the first to push a button after a LED went on? :]
[18:41] <rigid> raspi latency is not the best :-P
[18:42] <Encrypt> Mokay :p
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[18:46] <Scar3cr0w> make it vibrate when they text it ;)
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[18:50] <gordonDrogon> ellie_fitzy, I'd suggest getting them to draw flowers using scratch & turtle graphics, but that seems a bit too "girly" ...
[18:50] <gordonDrogon> and stereotypical.
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[18:51] <ellie_fitzy> gordonDrogon: I am trying to get them to program, and they are vaguely interested
[18:51] <Kane> morning
[18:51] <gordonDrogon> ellie_fitzy, well - turtle graphics in scratch is a good starter.
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[19:04] <IT_Sean> .ckear
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[19:17] <santoscrew> openelec and raspberyy pi. Anyone here tried?
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[19:19] <bronson> santoscrew: yea, a while ago. couldn't be easier to set up.
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[19:19] <gordonDrogon> isn't in part of NOOBs now? (openelect)
[19:20] <bronson> Base works great. A few of the plugins take too much memory and make it run sloooOOOOoooow.
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[19:39] <santoscrew> bronson, on the pi?!! :D:D:D And it worked?
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[19:49] <blockh34d> i have a player ui i made for omxplayer i think offers a lot of functionality
[19:49] <blockh34d> i havent tried openelec yet but i hear its doing some similar stuff
[19:49] <gregc2> whats the max power you can grab from the pi's 2 ports per port?
[19:49] <blockh34d> if you'd like to try my app, maybe it works out better for your situation, let me know and i'll msg you a link
[19:49] <gregc2> 140 uamps?
[19:50] <blockh34d> gotta be more than that
[19:50] <blockh34d> i think it depends on your power supply
[19:50] <gregc2> getting a lot of conflicting info
[19:50] <blockh34d> well dont let me confuse matters more i really dont know
[19:50] <blockh34d> but it just osunds low to me
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[19:52] <santoscrew> Im gonna try pseudo now. Ill keep it in mind though!
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[19:52] <blockh34d> hi all my app just got approved for pi store, check it out! Scamp AV Player
[19:53] <blockh34d> Free (for now, heh)
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[19:54] <blockh34d> upvotes much appreciated... thanks!
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[20:12] <enthusi> Hi :)
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[20:12] <enthusi> anyone here playing around with gcc-assembler on the rpi?
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[20:14] <blockh34d> that sounds pretty hardcore
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[20:15] <blockh34d> like maybe you just chew on hard drives sometimes just so they know whos the boss
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[20:29] <gordonDrogon> I've not looked at ARM assembler for well over 20 years now..
[20:30] <gordonDrogon> not sure I want to start either....
[20:30] <blockh34d> it sounds really painful
[20:30] <blockh34d> brings back memory of 80s game coding
[20:30] <blockh34d> sticking with python now thanks!
[20:30] <blockh34d> i value my sanity, what little i retain
[20:31] <blockh34d> gordonDrogon: i've heard you have some really cool code posted somwehere
[20:31] <blockh34d> would you mind spamming me or the chan your related links?
[20:31] <shiftplusone> he has a lot of cool code posted all over the place >_<
[20:32] <blockh34d> this is what i hear
[20:32] <gregc2> gordonDrogon, are you the FIQ driver guy?
[20:32] <shiftplusone> (most famously, wiringpi)
[20:32] <blockh34d> little birds sit on my shoulder and tell me to see what gordonDrogon is up to
[20:32] <blockh34d> oh nice
[20:32] <shiftplusone> I don't think the FIQ guy is on IRC.
[20:32] <blockh34d> <3 wiring
[20:33] <gregc2> his name was gordon
[20:33] <gregc2> ;-)
[20:33] <shiftplusone> Hollingsworth?
[20:33] <gregc2> good question
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[20:34] <shiftplusone> I think there are a few FIQ guys then. I thought it was p33m on github and jdb from the forum... and surely gsh (another Gordon) too.
[20:34] <blockh34d> anyone interested in making an open hardware project around a multiple picam daughter board that can hotswap between a few plugged in picams at once?
[20:35] <gregc2> http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=39175
[20:35] <blockh34d> i think the idea is doable but i have no real experience with that complex of a circuit design, and no knowledge of what kind of handshake goes on between camera/pi
[20:35] <gregc2> yeah
[20:38] <blockh34d> lol NYET ERR sounds pretty evil
[20:38] <ShorTie> and a couple more dollars, you get another whole rPi
[20:38] <blockh34d> no idea what any of that page is about but if my app started screaming NYET at me i think i'd be worried about it
[20:39] <blockh34d> ShorTie: oh instead of multi-cam hotswap you mean?
[20:39] <IT_Sean> unless you spoke Russian.
[20:39] <ShorTie> hot swap cam = pick the other ip address, lol.
[20:39] <blockh34d> even then
[20:39] <blockh34d> NO ERR!
[20:39] <blockh34d> its just troubling
[20:39] <blockh34d> ShorTie: not as viable a fix for my situation
[20:40] <blockh34d> but i agree usually a fine option, certainly the rpi's are affordable enough
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[20:40] <sireorion> hey all... i cant boot my pi its just a red light and no video on HDMI
[20:41] <blockh34d> unplug all from usb?
[20:41] <blockh34d> that has been a problem for me, even things that shouldnt matter, like joysticks and wifi dongles
[20:41] <blockh34d> also maybe try disconnecting all power for a moment
[20:42] <blockh34d> let any weird charges that somehow got in there clear out? dont quote me on the science thats more superstition
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[20:42] <pksato> sireorion: SD card with OS are inserted?
[20:42] <sireorion> okey.. i have tryed to unplug usb devices and now it disconnected from power
[20:42] <sireorion> brb
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[20:43] <blockh34d> even without sd card you should get something on hdmi though right?
[20:43] <IT_Sean> no
[20:43] <blockh34d> oh, good ot know
[20:43] <IT_Sean> you need an SD card with a valid OS to get video
[20:43] <blockh34d> i figured you'd at least get that test signal
[20:43] <IT_Sean> no.
[20:43] <blockh34d> yah that makes sense
[20:43] <blockh34d> how could they even start it up without those config files
[20:44] <pksato> rpi dont have onboard firmware memory.
[20:44] <blockh34d> oh so its all off that sdcard eh, probably better that way
[20:44] <blockh34d> look at the android mess
[20:44] <blockh34d> got this cruddy phone running android 2.2, no reason at all it couldnt run latest android theres just no viable path of upgrade
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[20:46] <LoneElf> Anybody here do any high speed acquisition and signal processing with the rPI?
[20:47] <blockh34d> i was thinking about it, maybe some sort of software oscilliscope?
[20:47] <blockh34d> i don't really know anything about scopes or how to use them but it sounds doable
[20:47] <IT_Sean> Not sure the Pi is going to be fast enough
[20:48] <blockh34d> do you think rpi can acquire data at high enough rate to make that plausible?
[20:48] <blockh34d> yah it sounds like itd be pushing the envelope
[20:48] <blockh34d> maybe something to dust off the assembler for, if ever there was such a task
[20:48] <pksato> for fast DSP, need access to HW dsp. But, no infor about how do.
[20:48] <blockh34d> closed source binary blob?
[20:49] <pksato> some task can be sone by gpu.
[20:49] <pksato> done by gpu
[20:49] <blockh34d> ah yah in the shader?
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[20:49] <blockh34d> yes its very good for some things i hear
[20:49] <pksato> but, I not a DSP guy.
[20:49] <LoneElf> blockh34d: I have a more specific application in mind, but yeah.
[20:49] <blockh34d> seems like it could be fun for real time audio effects
[20:50] <blockh34d> LoneElf: cool! goodl uck
[20:50] <LoneElf> @IT_Sean: What makes you say that? Which part of the system do you suppose is the bottleneck?
[20:51] <IT_Sean> I'm just not sure the CPU is quick enough to capture data quickly enough WHILE processing it. It never occured to me to use the GPU though.
[20:51] <pksato> LoneElf: how fast data acquisition you need?
[20:51] <LoneElf> blockh34d: Yes, acquisition rate is what i'm most concerned about! I probably only have two fast busses that I can utilize on the Pi, USB and SPI no? (I'm looking at acquiring signal at 1Mhz sampling frequency, perhaps sampled at 12 bits and casted to 16 somewheres along the way)
[20:51] <blockh34d> IT_Sean: yeah i hear of some people doing some pretty fast number crunching like that
[20:51] <IT_Sean> Good to know.
[20:52] <blockh34d> LoneElf: maybe somehow you could use the lan adapter?
[20:52] <pksato> ah... 1MHz... slow. :)
[20:52] <blockh34d> i feel like that thing is maybe the fastest port on the pi
[20:52] <LoneElf> blockh34d: Perhaps I could. But that would perhaps be overkill.
[20:52] <blockh34d> but i wouldnt know i'm really very ignorant to the whole subject
[20:53] <blockh34d> i wonder now if the gpio pins coudl be used for audio input
[20:53] <atouk> pi is a great little board, but that might be asking a wee bit too much rom it
[20:53] <atouk> (from)
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[20:53] <IT_Sean> Just keep in mind that you also need to DO SOMETHING with the data you generate... i.e. store it.
[20:53] <blockh34d> ramdrive
[20:53] <atouk> still takes clock cycles
[20:53] <IT_Sean> Not gonna store much there.
[20:53] <blockh34d> otherwise sd card access will bottleneck horrible
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[20:54] <blockh34d> samba share with direct acess enabled? maybe also good
[20:54] <blockh34d> or whatever its called when it doesnt try to locally cache the file at all on transfer... feels faster to me but i havent really timed it
[20:55] <IT_Sean> well, if you go with a network based solution, keep in mind that the ethernet port shares a bus with USB, so, if you use both at the same time, you are gonna cause a traffic jam
[20:55] <blockh34d> oh do the two, lan vs usb have the same bottleneck (that bus)?
[20:55] <blockh34d> maybe my lan suggestion was pointless if so
[20:55] <atouk> all roads lead to the same chip
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[20:56] <blockh34d> right
[20:56] <IT_Sean> Yes, the lan port is hung off of an USB <-> Ethernet adapter, which is hung off an onboard hub which provides the two exposed USB ports and the LAN port
[20:56] <blockh34d> yah that makes sense
[20:56] <pksato> only one USB bus.
[20:56] <blockh34d> if someone were to desolder their lan port could they use the hookup as a usb hookup?
[20:56] <atouk> nope
[20:56] <IT_Sean> No.
[20:56] <blockh34d> not that that is a good idea
[20:57] <blockh34d> oh ok thanks, seemed like maybe
[20:57] <IT_Sean> nope.
[20:57] <atouk> you really need something with more horsepower for real time dsp
[20:57] <blockh34d> odroid u2?
[20:57] <blockh34d> or whatever its called?
[20:58] <atouk> look at the nvida jetson board
[20:58] <blockh34d> that thing looks pretty fast
[20:58] <pksato> FPGA? :)
[20:58] <blockh34d> fpga is really fast right?
[20:58] <atouk> https://developer.nvidia.com/jetson-tk1
[20:58] <blockh34d> i havent done any fpga stuff yet but it looks super cool
[20:59] <atouk> fpga is fase, excet when it isn't
[20:59] <atouk> (fast)
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[21:00] <pksato> http://www.latticesemi.com/en/Products/DevelopmentBoardsAndKits/RaspberryPiFPGA.aspx
[21:00] <blockh34d> lol 192 cores
[21:00] <blockh34d> thats crazzzzzy
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[21:01] <pksato> no adc/dac :(
[21:01] <blockh34d> thought it had a add on board with GPIO?
[21:01] <blockh34d> does GPIO imply ADC/DAC?
[21:02] <jda2000> If I connected two RPIs via an ordinary cat5 ethernet cable is there any posibility that they could communicate? say with zeroconf or whatever. I want to know if the hardware makes it possible.
[21:02] <blockh34d> absolutely jda2000
[21:02] <IT_Sean> you would need to manually give each an IP address
[21:02] <IT_Sean> and all that
[21:02] <blockh34d> i have my rpi plugged into a netbook via standard lan cable
[21:02] <jda2000> Cool!
[21:02] <blockh34d> works great, super fast
[21:03] <jda2000> Thanks a lot guys!
[21:03] <blockh34d> np gl
[21:03] <IT_Sean> no problem
[21:03] <blockh34d> yah before i did that, 1080p video played back through network share had stuttering playback issues
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[21:03] <blockh34d> but with direct cable connection, never one single problem
[21:04] <blockh34d> do any of these single board computers have video in and out?
[21:05] <blockh34d> i heard that the snowball did but its info page doesnt say anything about video in
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[21:05] <atouk> video in/out is a bit of a grey area with hdmi because of licesing, etc
[21:06] <blockh34d> even if it was just rca in
[21:06] <blockh34d> something to process cams
[21:06] <blockh34d> but i guess theres plenty of usb appliances for that
[21:06] <blockh34d> it'd be nice to be all on board though, espeically if it had multiple rca inputs, like maybe 4 of them
[21:07] <atouk> if you want RCA, look for an old Video Toaster
[21:07] <blockh34d> i do see how hdmi input could be a problem
[21:07] <blockh34d> yah i want to wear this on my face though
[21:07] <blockh34d> so its gotta be light
[21:08] <blockh34d> i'm going to be circuitboard man, go fight crime
[21:08] <blockh34d> j/k
[21:09] <blockh34d> could the gpio pins on a rpi be used for audio or video input?
[21:09] <gordonDrogon> blockh34d, audio - yes. video - probably not.
[21:09] <blockh34d> seems unlikely right
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[21:09] <blockh34d> maybe very lores video?
[21:10] <gordonDrogon> very.
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[21:10] <blockh34d> well the audio would be cool anyways
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[21:10] <blockh34d> use the rpi like a guitar pedal!
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[21:11] <jda2000> blockh34d: The camera module works pretty well.....
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[21:11] <gordonDrogon> blockh34d, http://www.element14.com/community/community/raspberry-pi/raspberry-pi-accessories/wolfson_pi
[21:11] <blockh34d> jda2000: yah but i want multiple inputs on one rpi
[21:11] <blockh34d> i love the picams, the best cam for rpi imo
[21:11] <blockh34d> but only one per pi is kind of a dream killer
[21:11] <atouk> better off with multiple pis, and then use one as a master
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[21:12] <jda2000> blockh34d: Or an excuse o get more pi.
[21:12] <jda2000> s/o/to/
[21:12] <blockh34d> only so many you can use for some things before you break your weight limit
[21:12] <gordonDrogon> or your neck..
[21:12] <blockh34d> exactly lol
[21:13] <blockh34d> although eventually maybe weights not such an issue
[21:13] <atouk> backpack or utility belt the pis
[21:13] <IT_Sean> #raspberrypi is not responsible for broken weight limits, or broken necks.
[21:13] <blockh34d> long term i think the helmet i have in mind really deserves an entire exoskelton
[21:13] <blockh34d> IT_Sean: d'oh i had my lawsuit all ready to go too
[21:14] <IT_Sean> blockh34d: as a general rule, #raspberrypi is not responsible for *
[21:14] <blockh34d> that audio board is sweet looking!
[21:14] <jda2000> Who has the best tux-shaped Pi case?
[21:15] <blockh34d> if only laws had wildcards
[21:15] <blockh34d> lol? wildcards? whats the proper term
[21:15] <blockh34d> for *
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[21:15] <IT_Sean> wildcard is the proper term, blockhead
[21:15] <blockh34d> oh cool yah for second it just sounded wrong
[21:15] <blockh34d> thanks
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[21:23] <blockh34d> yay adafruits going to replace my smoked out lcd! dunno what happened but that thing bit it hardcore
[21:23] <blockh34d> smouldering rubble
[21:24] <IT_Sean> adafruit are pretty good about that sort of thing
[21:24] <blockh34d> almost certainly user error
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[21:24] <IT_Sean> what LCD was it?
[21:24] <blockh34d> 2.5" adafruit 912
[21:24] <IT_Sean> ah
[21:24] <blockh34d> chances are it was fine and i screwed it up but its hard to tell now
[21:24] <blockh34d> looks like an ashtray
[21:24] <IT_Sean> I had one of their 7" HDMI LCDs go poof on me. Replaced no questions asked.
[21:24] <blockh34d> i keep thinking of getting the 5" hdmi
[21:25] <blockh34d> i'm stilln ot sure if i want to use two displays for my HUD or one bigger one
[21:25] <IT_Sean> 5" is a bit small.
[21:25] <IT_Sean> innit?
[21:25] <blockh34d> not for vr goggles
[21:25] <blockh34d> kind a little too big actually
[21:25] <blockh34d> but i can almost over look it
[21:25] <IT_Sean> oh
[21:25] <blockh34d> if its easier to keep the l/r eye images synced
[21:26] <blockh34d> i have the optics already
[21:26] <blockh34d> if i put a display at right distance from headset, it does create the wrapped-around-your-eye effect
[21:26] <blockh34d> any display works but the 5" would require a plastic seperator of left/right eye images run down the middle of the screen with worries me
[21:27] <blockh34d> i already cracked one display just testing out an early prototype, bumping into a wall
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[21:27] <IT_Sean> herpaderp
[21:27] <blockh34d> now my housings are made of metal
[21:27] <blockh34d> and almost bulletproof before i even put it on
[21:27] <blockh34d> yah oops!
[21:27] <blockh34d> at least it was lo def
[21:27] <IT_Sean> so... next time you bump into a wall you are going to crack your nose, not the LCD.
[21:27] <IT_Sean> Good idea!
[21:27] <blockh34d> lol nono theres going to be a lot of shock absorbers
[21:28] <blockh34d> i keep thinking about a reinforced spinal column too
[21:28] <blockh34d> i have a way of making air muscles i like, they run off compressed air, are flexible and pretty strong
[21:28] <IT_Sean> why do i get the feeling that this thing is gonna weigh 30 lbs and look like something out of a steampunk version of Terminator?
[21:29] <blockh34d> oh i already train in a 50 lb weighted vest
[21:29] <blockh34d> 30lbs would be on the light side i expect
[21:29] <IT_Sean> what... exactly... are you building. ...and should i notify the department of defense?
[21:29] <blockh34d> they probably already know
[21:29] <blockh34d> hi guys
[21:29] <blockh34d> whoever is assigned to me, have a nice day
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[21:30] <blockh34d> i'm (mostly) harmless
[21:30] <blockh34d> i see this sort of things as a ticket out of crushing poverty
[21:30] <blockh34d> if i make the ultimate combat helmet, someone will pay me quite a bit for it or to destroy it and forget about it
[21:30] <atouk> remote bank robbing drone? cool project
[21:31] <blockh34d> controlled by my MIND!
[21:31] <blockh34d> neurosky mindwave
[21:31] <blockh34d> gonna build one into it
[21:31] <atouk> well, there's your problem...
[21:31] <blockh34d> lol not just eeg controlled though
[21:31] <blockh34d> also working on eye tracking
[21:32] <blockh34d> i think this helmet plus special guns could make for a totally different kind of infantry
[21:32] <blockh34d> a much less disposable kind
[21:32] <blockh34d> also maybe very good for scouts/recon as it would be good for piloting drones in the field
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[21:33] <blockh34d> but fyi i dont support war as a lifestyle or a culture
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[21:33] <blockh34d> its probably not accurate to consider me a pacifist but i will never fight in a war off my countries land
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[21:39] <blockh34d> anyone know why an older raspbian install might have issues with a curses app when it comes time to restore stdout?
[21:39] <blockh34d> all i could think of was that little floating logo thats on by default with raspbian
[21:40] <blockh34d> seems like to make that thing work, something weird happened to stdout that affects how it scrolls the console window during app execution
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[22:13] <[SLB]> meh, boost::interprocess::bad_alloc is back
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[22:15] <Sashmo> hey everyone, question again..... if I type "last" in the command line, I can see my raspberry pi rebooting roughly ever 12/24 hours see this....http://pastebin.com/JHvaTGd2
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[22:17] <[SLB]> something wrong in crontab?
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[22:18] <Sashmo> its empty!
[22:18] <[SLB]> root's also?
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[22:21] <Sashmo> yes
[22:22] <[SLB]> ls /etc/cron*
[22:22] <Sashmo> ye yes
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[22:22] <Sashmo> actually
[22:22] <[SLB]> no config files in there?
[22:22] <Sashmo> http://pastebin.com/wTxF3fqy
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[22:24] <[SLB]> hm, similar to mine
[22:24] <[SLB]> i don't have apache
[22:26] <[SLB]> i'm not sure the remaining files are supposed to be the same as mine, just in case, md5sum /etc/cron*/*
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[22:26] <LoneElf> What is the max SD write speed supported by RPi?
[22:27] <blockh34d> slooow
[22:27] <blockh34d> as molasess
[22:27] <johnc-> ^^ technical specification
[22:27] <blockh34d> but maybe its just my sd card
[22:27] <[SLB]> i don't know maybe check here http://elinux.org/RPi_SD_cards
[22:27] <blockh34d> you can move the root filesystem though to some other drive with maybe faster accss
[22:27] <blockh34d> i keep meaning ot try that
[22:28] <LoneElf> Cool, so it looks as if I can write at speeds up to ~19MB/s, not bad.
[22:29] <LoneElf> [SLB] Queer that all of these class 10 devices perform much differently.
[22:29] <[SLB]> yea
[22:30] <IT_Sean> That's theoretically possible, but, keep in mind you may haev a bottleneck somewhere else, depending on where you are getting the data you are writing.
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[22:31] <LoneElf> @IT_Sean: Word.
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[22:43] <Sashmo_> I just got two more PI cams today.... lets see if thats my problem!
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[22:48] * Davespice sighs
[22:48] <Davespice> on robot 6 of 20
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[22:50] <beaky> hello
[22:50] <beaky> how do i ssh into my pi without connecting it to a network
[22:51] <ppq> beaky, http://elinux.org/RPi_Serial_Connection
[22:51] <ppq> you're probably looking for this
[22:51] <[SLB]> or crossover ethernet cable
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[22:57] <evil_dan2wik> ssh is a network protocol btw.
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[23:05] <[SLB]> i configured ssmtp a couple of days ago
[23:05] <[SLB]> now i checked my gmail sent folder
[23:05] <[SLB]> and there is a ton of cron mail lol...
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[23:07] <blockh34d> beaky you could connect direct to another comp via lan cable too
[23:07] <blockh34d> doesnt have to be crossover
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[23:08] <[SLB]> how do you connect the pi straight to another machine without a crossover cable?
[23:09] <shiftplusone> crossover cables are an ancient thing
[23:09] <evil_dan2wik> sometimes the machine's lan chip finds the cable anyway and does some magic.
[23:09] <shiftplusone> modern NICs auto-configure
[23:09] <blockh34d> yes magic
[23:10] <[SLB]> woa, that's news to me
[23:10] <blockh34d> i was not a believe at first either but it works
[23:10] <[SLB]> nice to know
[23:10] <blockh34d> i'm doing it now
[23:10] <blockh34d> so far so good
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[23:11] <[SLB]> i think i made my crossover cable about 10 years ago, it's been a while i guess, lol
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[23:11] <blockh34d> yah i guess they arent needed as much any more
[23:11] <blockh34d> kinda takes the shine off that trick don't it?
[23:12] <[SLB]> ahah yes
[23:12] <blockh34d> it should mabye complicate it some
[23:12] <blockh34d> like ask for a secret handshake
[23:12] <blockh34d> or the password
[23:12] <blockh34d> 'first you must answer me thse riddles three!'
[23:12] <[SLB]> lol
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[23:14] <shiftplusone> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medium_Dependent_Interface
[23:15] <[SLB]> nice
[23:16] <blockh34d> whoohoo 0 downloads
[23:16] <blockh34d> epic launch
[23:16] <shiftplusone> congratulations
[23:16] <blockh34d> its a big landmark
[23:17] <shiftplusone> Gr... internet is out so I am tether to my phone's connection.... which has a 200MB data plan. >.>
[23:17] <shiftplusone> *tethered
[23:17] <blockh34d> ouch thats brutal
[23:17] <Pankoi> blockh34d: I can't guarantee it, but I have a vague recollection that the download numbers only update once every 24h.
[23:18] <blockh34d> that sounds right to me
[23:18] <blockh34d> updating them per page load would brutalize the db
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[23:20] <blockh34d> i wonder how many rpi users are using them to remotely manage a projector based advertising system
[23:20] <blockh34d> they would be excellent for that
[23:21] <blockh34d> if anyone here is doing that, msg me please
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[23:24] <Sashmo_> blockh34d: what are you using??
[23:24] <blockh34d> well i wrote a little app that would amost be pretty good for that
[23:24] <rikkib> 2 x DS18B20 temp sensors arrived to go with a LDR, compass and nRF24 to make a MC9S08 wireless wind vane.
[23:25] <blockh34d> so i thought if find other users doing that specific thing, maybe they could help me get that sort of functionality rolled into there
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[23:25] <blockh34d> basically monitoring bulb health and whats currently playing etc
[23:25] <blockh34d> all thats available from the projectors LAN admin page, if you can scrape it right
[23:26] <blockh34d> sounds cool rikkib
[23:26] <blockh34d> gonna have it served up on interwebs too?
[23:26] <Sashmo_> blockh34d: I use a rssh script to access my Pi remotely, so that I can do what ever I need. Then I used apache to remote control all my Pi's, and from there I can reboot, check status etc.... getting the data from the projector is possible too, since the devices are on the sam lan, it can be done
[23:27] <rikkib> Eventually
[23:28] <rikkib> Once combined with pressure, humidity and rain sensors
[23:28] <blockh34d> Sashmo_: yeah i wrote some python scripts for that back in the day
[23:28] <blockh34d> fed the data to a javascript app that displayed a world map with a bunch of icons representing bulb health
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[23:29] <blockh34d> pretty sweet so now i think well why not put that into my media center ui app since its already pretty good for headless rpi media center operation... would you like to try it? Scamp in the pi store, free
[23:29] <blockh34d> its a UI but is usable via ssh/putty as well as from X or outside of X on the pi
[23:29] <blockh34d> since its all textmode
[23:30] <blockh34d> it uses asciiart for the buttons and stuff
[23:30] <Sashmo_> I think I have actually seen that already
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[23:41] <blockh34d> did i give you a copy?
[23:41] <blockh34d> it just got approved today
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[23:43] <blockh34d> Sashmo if you tell mew hat typ of projector you use, i will build a 'how healthy is this projectors lightbulb' feature into scamp somewhere, but it may be hidden by default
[23:43] <blockh34d> if you wanted to try that i may also need to log in to the projector a couple times and save off copies off its admin pages
[23:44] <Sashmo_> I need to climb up on the ceiling to get the model number.... hehehe
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[23:45] <Tijuanense> what is this error message mean in my client?
[23:45] <Tijuanense> http://i.imgur.com/eizzhMx.jpg
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[23:47] <sq> don't click on that
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[23:57] <blockh34d> what is it goatse or something?
[23:57] <blockh34d> probably
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[23:58] <blockh34d> btw no one google what 'goatse' is. if you don't know, don't find out. It's kittens, and ballons.
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[23:59] <Poison[BLX]> ROFL.

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