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IRC Log for 2014-04-02

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[0:22] <phire> I'm having problems building the linux kernel with buildroot and a hardfloat toolchain
[0:23] <phire> "arm-unknown-linux-gnueabihf-gcc: error: -mfloat-abi=soft and -mfloat-abi=hard may not be used together"
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[0:26] <phire> the kernel seems to be hardcoded for -mfloat-abi=soft
[0:27] <phire> and my toolchain is compiled with -mfloat-abi=hard hardcoded in
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[0:32] <phire> looks like I can safely patch the kernel to compile with -mfloat-abi=hard
[0:32] <phire> Since the kernel doesn't actually use floats
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[0:36] <phire> only disadvantage is that it is now possible to accidentally write/compile kernel code which uses floating point
[0:36] <phire> Currently with -mfloat-abi=hard, the linking fails
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[0:56] <Davespice> folks, check this out... just found a 3D Tron Light Cycle game for the Raspberry Pi: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ducl8QLrhgM
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[1:31] <blockh34d> sweet :)
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[1:31] <blockh34d> my games going to have tron light cycles but from overhead
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[1:31] <blockh34d> it'll be tanks vs helicopters vs tron light cycles vs whatever else
[1:32] <blockh34d> front end loader
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[1:33] <blockh34d> i made a forum entry about my app, if anyone has any issues or suggestions please post them there: http://www.raspberrypi.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=35&t=73653
[1:34] <blockh34d> haha i remember armagedtron! thats a nicely made tron game :)
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[1:36] <RainMan28> Is anyone here using an adafruit lcd with their pi?
[1:36] <blockh34d> yes
[1:36] <blockh34d> which one are you using?
[1:36] <blockh34d> i'm on a 1080p right now but i have two of the 2.5" 912's in front of me
[1:36] <RainMan28> blockh34d: could I have you test a piece of code. I'm wondering if my screen is defective or if its a bad solder somewhere
[1:36] <RainMan28> Oh I'm using a positive RGB 16x2 lcd
[1:36] <blockh34d> oh i se
[1:37] <blockh34d> yah i dont have one of those
[1:37] <blockh34d> mines like standard tv out
[1:37] <RainMan28> ah darn
[1:37] <RainMan28> gotcha
[1:37] <blockh34d> sorry maybe someone else has one around
[1:37] <blockh34d> think someone could run a command prompt off that little guy?
[1:37] <blockh34d> maybe a couple of them?
[1:37] <RainMan28> haha not sure
[1:37] <blockh34d> i just made a text mode omxplayer ui
[1:38] <RainMan28> i am new to the pi, and pretty noob at python programming
[1:38] <blockh34d> i daydream about making it compatible with a display like yours
[1:38] <blockh34d> i can get it down to 40x10
[1:38] <RainMan28> but keep having an issue with my screen "blanking" out while refreshing and didn't know if its defective
[1:38] <blockh34d> well how are you powering everything
[1:38] <blockh34d> cause powersupply is super important in rpis
[1:39] <RainMan28> using a 1 amp power supply I believe, let me double check
[1:39] <blockh34d> you can NOT just plug the rpi into your computers usb port and expect that to work well or at all
[1:39] <blockh34d> oh ok well thats a good start
[1:39] <blockh34d> take care tho sometimes they lie
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[1:39] <RainMan28> 5.1v, 1 amp
[1:39] <blockh34d> watch for shakey connections, long cords especially thin/cheap ones
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[1:39] <blockh34d> but yah that should be fine
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[1:39] <blockh34d> what about hte display
[1:39] <RainMan28> its being powered on the same
[1:40] <blockh34d> oh really...
[1:40] <RainMan28> through the GPIO
[1:40] <blockh34d> well i havent used that typ eof display
[1:40] <blockh34d> but that makes me maybe a little apprehensive
[1:40] <RainMan28> the display on it works great except when I'm trying to refresh something very quickly
[1:40] <RainMan28> then it blanks
[1:40] <blockh34d> like maybe you should bump up your power supply
[1:40] <RainMan28> during the refresh
[1:40] <blockh34d> hmm
[1:40] <blockh34d> i can only guess
[1:40] <RainMan28> not sure if its because of me "clearing" the screen between every refresh or a bad kit
[1:41] <blockh34d> hmm
[1:41] <blockh34d> maybe you can batch your updates
[1:41] <blockh34d> remove redundant entries
[1:41] <blockh34d> like make yourself only update twice a second, etc
[1:41] <blockh34d> instead of 27k times / sec
[1:41] <blockh34d> the lcd probably can not keep up with things past a certain speed
[1:42] <blockh34d> it may have its own buffer of pending updates and you could be giving it a workout or overflowing it
[1:42] <RainMan28> this makes sense
[1:42] <RainMan28> are you a wizard?
[1:42] <blockh34d> all guesses
[1:42] <blockh34d> yes
[1:42] <blockh34d> marshmellow wizard
[1:43] <blockh34d> lord of the cereal
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[1:49] <blockh34d> i bet that display is almost indestructable isnt it
[1:49] <blockh34d> i keep wondering what the absolute most durable display device would be
[1:50] <blockh34d> thinking maybe the e-ink adafruits got
[1:50] <blockh34d> looks sweet
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[2:00] <dagerik> so um i thought it would be nice to attack all my rpis to wifi for easy deploymen
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[2:00] <dagerik> one less cable.
[2:01] <dagerik> but all devices are NAT-ed so they are not available on internet. wat do
[2:04] <SpeedEvil> Virtual servers/...
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[2:06] <dagerik> SpeedEvil: huh? should i run a virtual machine on the rpi?
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[2:08] <SpeedEvil> dagerik: You run a virtual server on the NAT box to punch through the NAT
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[2:09] <dagerik> SpeedEvil: sorry. i dont understand how virtual servers and internet works. will each virtual server get its own unique public ip?
[2:10] <SpeedEvil> dagerik: how are you connecting the pis to the internte
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[2:12] <dagerik> SpeedEvil: right now non-nated on regular ethernet on switch in front of internet point in my appartment
[2:12] <dagerik> and I want to use wifi for easy deployment. one less cable.
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[2:13] <SpeedEvil> You would in general terms, configure your external router to pass a block of port numbers to your wifi router. These ports would then be routed one by one to your Pis on the router config
[2:14] <SpeedEvil> If the wifi router is reachable externally, then you can skip the first step
[2:14] <dagerik> okay. is this what is called "port forwarding"
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[2:19] <SpeedEvil> yes
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[2:20] <dagerik> SpeedEvil: can two rpis both run its webserver on port 80?
[2:20] <SpeedEvil> No
[2:21] <SpeedEvil> There is no special reason you can't put servers on other addresses though
[2:21] <dagerik> what you mean. rpis are all still nated
[2:21] <SpeedEvil> Alternatively, you can have one that everyone outside connects to, and proxies for the internal nodes
[2:22] <SpeedEvil> If you only have one external IP, you can't get around NATing
[2:22] <dagerik> ideally, my wifi AP would act as a switch so that each rpi gets a public facing ip
[2:22] <SpeedEvil> dagerik: Right.
[2:22] <SpeedEvil> dagerik: Do you have the right number of external IPs
[2:23] <dagerik> yes i can plug in as many devices as i want and get a public ip
[2:23] <SpeedEvil> you can't do this without the cooperation of the node at which your internet connection gets out to the net
[2:23] <SpeedEvil> A different public IP for each?
[2:23] <dagerik> yes
[2:23] <SpeedEvil> Or does it 'just work'
[2:24] <dagerik> i have put a switch in front of my ethernet cable which comes out the wall. each device gets its own unique public ip
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[2:26] <dagerik> i just wanna dd if=image of=/dev/sdb and plug the pi with power.
[2:27] <dagerik> but if each webserver needs to be on unique port that makes it more difficult
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[2:31] <phire> cross-compiling is hard
[2:31] <blockh34d> yes thats what puts me off about the qt cross compile
[2:31] <blockh34d> is that what you're doing?
[2:32] <blockh34d> someoen posted a precompiled copy link here earlier
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[2:32] <phire> I attempted a qt cross compile a few months back
[2:32] <blockh34d> its pretty low on my list of ways to abuse myself
[2:33] <phire> but that went horribly wrong because qmake leaks some of the external includes into the build enviroment
[2:33] <blockh34d> sure, those are words and i guess they mean something
[2:33] <blockh34d> thats why i didnt even try
[2:33] <phire> works perfectly fine if your external gcc/glib happens to be the same version as your toolchain
[2:33] <blockh34d> just gonna wait it out
[2:34] <blockh34d> till its a several click sort of thing
[2:34] <phire> Instead I decided to make my app with OpenVG
[2:34] <blockh34d> yah hows that?
[2:34] <blockh34d> for 3d access?
[2:35] <phire> 2d
[2:35] <phire> it's pretty nice
[2:35] <blockh34d> i'll have to check that out
[2:35] <blockh34d> think it'd be good for 2d game?
[2:35] <phire> But I haven't actually checked how fast it is
[2:36] <phire> yeah, probally
[2:36] <blockh34d> can it do rotation of panels/sprites/whatever?
[2:36] <blockh34d> non 90 degree rotation i mean, any old degree type
[2:36] <phire> yeah
[2:36] <blockh34d> thats all my game needs
[2:36] <phire> and vector shapes
[2:37] <blockh34d> can it crop in on the display window? (probably) like gl windowed mode
[2:37] <blockh34d> or scissortest i mean
[2:37] <phire> if that's all you need, might be slightly smarter to just use opengles
[2:37] <blockh34d> its how i handle splitscreen gameplay
[2:37] <blockh34d> well i am
[2:37] <blockh34d> but it's got some bottlenecks i cant find my way around
[2:37] <blockh34d> maybe you know the subject better
[2:37] <phire> vg probally won't help then
[2:37] <phire> what's your bottlenecks?
[2:37] <blockh34d> but when i try to update a lot of polygons, it slows down big
[2:38] <blockh34d> or even update a couple polygons
[2:38] <blockh34d> talking about particle systems
[2:38] <blockh34d> bullets etc
[2:38] <blockh34d> things that update every single frame
[2:38] <phire> stick with gl then
[2:38] <blockh34d> when i push that to the gpu, i think opengl blocks the app for a second...mutex or something... until its buffer is ready to use
[2:39] <phire> and work out how to get streaming buffers working
[2:39] <blockh34d> have you done much liek what i'm describing?
[2:39] <blockh34d> yah you know i've tried
[2:39] <blockh34d> with glmapbufferoes?
[2:39] <phire> no, but I happen to know how gpu/drivers work
[2:39] <blockh34d> yah i don't know what the issue is. i have tried everything i can think of and it mostly doesnt seem to matter
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[2:40] <blockh34d> i think i understand the idea of streaming buffers but it doesnt seem to be panning out for me
[2:41] <blockh34d> by streaming buffer you mean where i map an array in cpu memory to be linked directly to the gpu's allocated memory for that data? so i update the cpu copy and its 'live' instantly?
[2:41] <blockh34d> or you refer to idea that instead of just a say, front and back buffer, there should be a sequence of them like 1->10 which i keep moving through?
[2:42] <phire> streaming buffers refers to the former
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[2:43] <phire> but you need to do the latter with it, otherwise you stomp on the data
[2:43] <blockh34d> ok i think thats glMapBufferOES on PI
[2:43] <blockh34d> oh maybe thats where things are going wrong for me
[2:43] <blockh34d> i've only been doing one or the other
[2:43] <blockh34d> and i cant get the first to work in any way
[2:43] <blockh34d> general incompetance likely issue. pebkac
[2:44] <blockh34d> i'm trying to get people into the idea of a rpi 3d stress test
[2:44] <blockh34d> where we all try to do the same basic coding challenge (maximum snowflakes that can still run at 60fps for isntance)
[2:44] <phire> Am I allowed to bypass the drivers?
[2:45] <SpeedEvil> I can easily beat that.
[2:45] <SpeedEvil> All I need is a picam.
[2:45] <blockh34d> well yeah you can do anything you want to get it done
[2:45] <SpeedEvil> And a blizzard
[2:45] <blockh34d> haha SpeedEvil
[2:46] <blockh34d> to me whatever can move a lot of snowflakes could also move a particle system, whichi s basically bullets, and enemies for that matter
[2:46] <blockh34d> so snowflakes to the maximum leads to better 3d games on pi i think.
[2:47] <blockh34d> so i'm going to make a rpi site forum entry about this with some basic assets and boiler plate code
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[2:47] <phire> blockh34d, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bCeNzgiJ8I
[2:47] <blockh34d> i figure as long as we all use the same texture, shuldnt really matter how you do it
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[2:48] <phire> same texture, rendered at the same size
[2:48] <phire> the only variable about the final product that you can modify is the total number of snowflakes per frame
[2:48] <blockh34d> yah you're right it should all be same size
[2:49] <blockh34d> i thought some tumble/variance would look cool, and it might, but it screwes up the test
[2:49] <blockh34d> so they should all be uniform
[2:49] <blockh34d> but randomly rotatd
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[2:49] <blockh34d> cause its important that the sprites be able to rotate with this system
[2:49] <phire> you can define the algorithm for particle movement
[2:50] <blockh34d> cool just something basic
[2:50] <blockh34d> it falls and drifts alittle whatever
[2:50] <phire> something basic and easy to understand
[2:50] <blockh34d> awesome yah man i think its a good mission
[2:50] <blockh34d> worthy our finst efforts
[2:50] <blockh34d> :)
[2:51] <blockh34d> i'll spam a link around when i get it nailed down but if you want to start playing around with the idea let me know if you get anything worth check out i'd ig seeing it
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[2:53] <phire> now that we have the docs for the hardware, it's easier to work out what the hardware does fast
[2:54] <blockh34d> yah i'm really jazzed by the blob opening
[2:54] <blockh34d> or whatever you'd say
[2:54] <blockh34d> OPEN THE BLOB
[2:54] <blockh34d> WE DEMAND ACCESS
[2:55] <phire> but right now, I've got code which bypasses the blob and directly accesses the v3d pipeline from arm
[2:55] <phire> it renders a triangle!
[2:55] <blockh34d> f- yeah!
[2:56] <blockh34d> thats all you need
[2:56] <blockh34d> a textured triangle?
[2:56] <phire> my repo maxes out at a coloured triangle
[2:56] <blockh34d> well its a good start
[2:56] <phire> clever's repo adds textured triangles
[2:56] <blockh34d> is each point a diff color?
[2:56] <phire> yeah
[2:56] <blockh34d> cause thats most of uv co-ords
[2:56] <blockh34d> oh thy'll have it sorted soon
[2:56] <blockh34d> they're close!
[2:57] <blockh34d> i would get involved if ihad any idea how a gl driver works
[2:57] <blockh34d> i suspect it would be indecipherable greek to me though
[2:57] <phire> it's not stopping us
[2:57] <blockh34d> haha
[2:57] <blockh34d> well i'm pretty bored, really like the rpi
[2:58] <blockh34d> trying to start a gamedev 'company' for them
[2:58] <phire> I had to teach clever what vertex buffers were along the way
[2:58] <blockh34d> so yah i'd be interested in getting involved in that if it'd help at all
[2:58] <phire> join #raspberrypi-internals
[2:58] <blockh34d> k
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[4:03] <Davespice> just found the most hilarious twitter account ever; @CrapTaxidermy
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[4:08] <[Saint]> Davespice: If you like to cringe a lot at people who are obviously mentally ill but refuse to admit it, https://twitter.com/thisishuman is worth it.
[4:08] <[Saint]> ALso http://www.reddit.com/r/maxkitten
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[4:08] <Davespice> uh oh...
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[4:08] <[Saint]> (for the whole crazy story)
[4:09] <[Saint]> Guy refuses to give up.
[4:09] <[Saint]> Its a train wreck.
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[4:18] <blockh34d> hi anyone else having problesm running rpi-update?
[4:18] <blockh34d> i get security error
[4:19] <blockh34d> it said make sure i had ca-certs installed and my times correct.. pretty my times correct but dunno what ca-certs are
[4:19] <[Saint]> Unless you're upgrading to a bleeding edge kernel...just...don't.
[4:19] <blockh34d> really wow
[4:19] <blockh34d> how bad is it?
[4:19] <[Saint]> dist-upgrade will pull in updated firmware.
[4:19] <blockh34d> cause i thought i'd get involved in the gl driver unblobing
[4:19] <phire> *whistles*
[4:19] <blockh34d> oh would that be better?
[4:20] <blockh34d> hi phire trying to rpi-update but not really working out yet
[4:20] <blockh34d> am i doing it wrong or what?
[4:20] <blockh34d> [Saint]: not sure i udnerstand about not running rpi-update
[4:20] <phire> hmm, you might need to dist-upgrade then rpi-update
[4:20] <blockh34d> i see
[4:21] <phire> how old is your sd image?
[4:21] <[Saint]> blockh34d: rpi-update has a long history of killing /boot partitions
[4:21] <blockh34d> latest noobs
[4:21] <blockh34d> ouch
[4:21] <[Saint]> Why? WHo knows. I just avoid it like the plague.
[4:21] <blockh34d> well lemme back up all my code then
[4:21] <phire> works fine for me
[4:21] <[Saint]> Its largely unnecessary.
[4:21] <blockh34d> phire says i need latest to use custom gl drivers i guess?
[4:22] <blockh34d> something like that
[4:22] <blockh34d> i kind of want to see if this makes my gl code run any better too
[4:22] <blockh34d> seems like maybe...
[4:22] <blockh34d> sudo dist-upgrade gives me command not found
[4:22] <blockh34d> apt-get instlal it?
[4:22] <[Saint]> It would be so much easier if raspbian had firmware-* packages like Arch does.
[4:22] <phire> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[4:23] <[Saint]> Then you wouldn't need rpi-update at all.
[4:23] <blockh34d> oh ok thanks
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[4:23] <blockh34d> quite a lot being updated now
[4:24] <blockh34d> phire what do you use to compile?
[4:24] <blockh34d> anything special about compilation setup?
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[4:25] <phire> nothing special needed for my tree
[4:25] <[Saint]> Its so much easier to get to a bleeding edge kernel/firmware in Arch.
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[4:25] <blockh34d> so just something like configure and make?
[4:25] <[Saint]> I really wonder why Raspbian doesn't handle it the same way.
[4:25] <blockh34d> or you use eclipse/codeblocks/etc?
[4:25] <blockh34d> [Saint]: i keep thinking about tyring arch out
[4:25] <blockh34d> i'd like to know if my games/apps work as well for it
[4:26] <phire> it's just make
[4:26] <[Saint]> Raspbian/Noobs is a bit of overkill once you've figured out the basics.
[4:26] <[Saint]> FOr most people, that is.
[4:26] <phire> not really a fan of auto-tools
[4:26] <[Saint]> About a GB of stuff you'll almost certainly never use.
[4:26] <blockh34d> gotcha
[4:26] <blockh34d> yah i had to remove a bunch of stuff
[4:26] <blockh34d> scratch, wolfram, etc
[4:27] <blockh34d> mathmatic
[4:27] <blockh34d> a
[4:27] <[Saint]> Sounds like you'd prefer a debian netinst or Arch.
[4:27] <phire> I have here a 16gb sd card
[4:27] <blockh34d> yah i'm a as minimal as possible kinda guy
[4:27] <[Saint]> So do I. But it doesn't mean I want it filled with unneeded crap. ;)
[4:27] <blockh34d> as practical anyways
[4:27] <phire> it has 61mb of stuff on it
[4:28] <phire> plus 9mb in the boot partition
[4:28] <blockh34d> libmagic
[4:28] <blockh34d> sounds magical
[4:28] <phire> it is
[4:28] <blockh34d> any idea what it deos?
[4:29] <blockh34d> "magic"
[4:29] <phire> it's the magic behind the file command
[4:29] <blockh34d> whats the file command do
[4:29] <phire> try it
[4:29] <phire> file /path/to/random/file
[4:29] <blockh34d> shuld i let dist-upgrades finish
[4:29] <blockh34d> its doing stuff
[4:30] <blockh34d> i'll try it in a minute to be safe
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[4:32] <[Saint]> you could always stop it at any time and send it to the background. Then bring it back up.
[4:32] <blockh34d> the dist-upgrade?
[4:32] <blockh34d> i'm in X
[4:32] <[Saint]> fg and bg are great commands often neglected.
[4:32] <blockh34d> maybe i misunderstand
[4:33] <blockh34d> oh cool i'll have to check that out
[4:33] <blockh34d> this is why i like irc, i learn a lot
[4:33] <phire> my buildroot may be a tad minimal
[4:33] <phire> doesn't bring up the network
[4:34] <phire> also, didn't have ssh
[4:34] <blockh34d> file Game.py
[4:35] <blockh34d> neat
[4:35] <blockh34d> if only it gave the length of mp3's
[4:36] <blockh34d> can you divide a mp3 file size by the bitrate and get an accurate length?
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[4:36] <phire> I think there is an ffmpeg command with gives you infomation about media files
[4:36] <blockh34d> yah ffprobe
[4:36] <blockh34d> i use it
[4:37] <blockh34d> but it would be awesome if my app (a TUI for omxplayer) didn't need it
[4:37] <phire> if the files is CBR or ABR , sure
[4:37] <blockh34d> btw have you tried it? i'd love input on it
[4:37] <blockh34d> its Scamp in the pistore
[4:37] <phire> if it's VBR, then the bitrate varies
[4:38] <blockh34d> yah man i remember vbr
[4:38] <blockh34d> cant say i remember it fondly
[4:38] <phire> actually, not sure about ABR either
[4:38] <blockh34d> proly just best to use ffprobe
[4:38] <phire> I think file just gives the bitrate of the first frame of audo
[4:38] <blockh34d> need it for figuring out how many audio streams there are anyways
[4:38] <phire> *audio
[4:38] <phire> yeah
[4:39] <blockh34d> well rpi-update is doing some stuff now
[4:39] <blockh34d> for sure
[4:40] <blockh34d> so it just said 'using hardfp libraries'
[4:40] <blockh34d> i vaguely understand that to be a faster way to operate a rpi? hard fp = fixed precision floating point? i dont know
[4:41] <phire> floating point
[4:41] <blockh34d> ok so it happened
[4:41] <blockh34d> gonna reboot and see if my games any faster
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[4:41] <blockh34d> thanks all
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[4:41] <phire> "gonna reboot and see if my games any faster" ... not sure it works like that.
[4:43] <olalonde> hi all.. I'd like to have a direct connection between my RaspberryPi and my linux server.. is that possible? without using the network stack
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[4:49] <blockh34d> not particlarly faster
[4:49] <blockh34d> but at least i'm stillin one piece
[4:49] <blockh34d> so coulda been worse
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[4:50] <malfunct> rpi-update breaks my rpi setup
[4:50] <malfunct> because it seems to reset the cmdline.txt
[4:51] <malfunct> and points it back at the SD card, instead of at my usb stick
[4:51] <blockh34d> thanks for the tip i'm going to remember that
[4:51] <blockh34d> now i wonder if i should have saved my cmdline.txt
[4:51] <blockh34d> no idea what i had in there, somethin i think
[4:51] <malfunct> blockh34d, unless you changed it from the default I wouldn't worry about it
[4:52] <malfunct> anyways its time for me to head out for a bit, get to head home from work, woohoo!
[4:53] <blockh34d> have fun
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[8:39] <jonwaller> Is the PI fast enough to do 1080p streaming over wifi with this: http://www.seeedstudio.com/depot/Raspberry-Pi-Camera-Module-p-1659.html?cPath=122_111 ?
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[9:36] <evil_dan2wik> I have $400 spare this week, how many RPis should I get?
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[9:41] <ShorTie> guess that would all depend on what you need and what you want to do with them
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[9:42] <evil_dan2wik> I don't need them and I don't have anything to use them on.
[9:42] <evil_dan2wik> How many should I get.
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[9:43] <ShorTie> 4000
[9:44] <evil_dan2wik> I can't have enough money to buy 4000?
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[9:49] <ShorTie> i'm just trying to answer as stupid as you did
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[9:50] <evil_dan2wik> ?
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[9:55] <ShorTie> 400 dollars could be enough for not even 1 or up to like 10, depending on your needs and wants, but since you have niether, kinda a useless ?
[9:55] <evil_dan2wik> ok
[9:55] <evil_dan2wik> well, would something like this work?
[9:55] <evil_dan2wik> http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/261324627953
[9:57] <ShorTie> for what, it will not even hook up to the rPi
[9:57] <evil_dan2wik> For RCA to VGA
[9:57] <evil_dan2wik> Oh wait, wrong way nvm
[9:58] <ShorTie> lol, maybe reread the title, that is not even the way it goes
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[9:59] <ShorTie> and by the by, RCA is the type of plug, not the type of output
[9:59] <evil_dan2wik> composite RCA then...
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[10:01] <ShorTie> yes, composite video output does use a RCA connector
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[10:21] <troulouliou_dev> hi as soon as i plug a usb wifi i loose my network over ethernet; how can i prevent this issue ?
[10:24] <ShorTie> i think you need to setup the wifi, wicd might help
[10:24] <troulouliou_dev> ShorTie, im in ssh
[10:25] <troulouliou_dev> ok found :) need to edit interfaces
[10:25] <ShorTie> i believe wicd-ncurser works with in ssh
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[10:27] <troulouliou_dev> ShorTie, wpa-roam by default
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[10:28] <ShorTie> oh i'm not sure
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[10:29] <ShorTie> i found wicd is a lot easier then messing in interfaces
[10:30] <ShorTie> plus it keeps the connection up, where messing within interfaces you will loose wifi now and then
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[10:32] <troulouliou_dev> ShorTie, ha ok will try
[10:32] <troulouliou_dev> ShorTie, never tested it in fact :)
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[10:53] <troulouliou_dev> what is the difference between mirrordirector and archive.raspbian.org reps ?
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[10:54] <ShorTie> they should be the same i believe, or it could not be called a mirror
[10:54] <troulouliou_dev> ShadowJK, i have mirrordirector in source.list
[10:55] <troulouliou_dev> ShadowJK, and archive in source.list.d/rasp.list
[10:55] <troulouliou_dev> but the second fail to download
[10:56] <troulouliou_dev> weird the second one is deb http://archive.raspberrypi.org/debian/ wheezy main
[10:56] <troulouliou_dev> debian and not raspbian
[10:58] <gordonDrogon> mirrordirector should direct you to the nearest mirror. archive is the master repository AIUI.
[10:58] <gordonDrogon> for me they both return the same IP address
[10:59] <ShorTie> raspberrypi.org is on the fritz
[10:59] <gordonDrogon> maybe there are no mirrors )-:
[10:59] <gordonDrogon> ShorTie, yea - I still get the Apri 1st site - looks like something broke when resetting it to "normal"...
[11:00] <ShorTie> to me, it's not a funny joke when you make it not useable
[11:00] <ShorTie> but thats me
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[11:01] <gordonDrogon> Hm. it is usable - just "retro"
[11:02] <ShorTie> forums don't even work i believe, or didn't a few ago for me
[11:02] <gordonDrogon> Hm. yes. they worked yesterday, but not today. I just checked the front page..
[11:03] <gordonDrogon> that is a bit bad, but hey ho..
[11:03] <ShorTie> April 1st can last 47 hours, 59 minutes and 59 seconds
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[11:06] <ShorTie> i think i found the nic drover, but broke the keyboard, maybe i need a cross compiler if i want this done this week, lol.
[11:06] <ShorTie> driver*
[11:06] <gordonDrogon> Ha. if you fix the keyboard issues you'll be a hero!
[11:06] <gordonDrogon> I seem to have having a lot recently )-:
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[11:07] <ShorTie> the keyboard doesn't even work in my latest kernel .. :/~
[11:07] <gordonDrogon> that's somewhat sub-optimal.
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[11:07] <gordonDrogon> I'm seeing issues on a Pi when I enable sound in my application.
[11:07] <ShorTie> ya tell me about it
[11:07] <gordonDrogon> and when I run minecraft.
[11:08] <gordonDrogon> I'm not convinced this is a power issue either.
[11:08] <evil_dan2wik> ...
[11:08] <evil_dan2wik> Haven't really explained the situation
[11:09] <ShorTie> main reason i'm trying to recompile it is that 1-wire is hard coded to 10 slave devices
[11:09] <evil_dan2wik> ShorTie, so?
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[11:10] <ShorTie> kinda hard to have like 16, if it's hard coded to 10
[11:11] <gordonDrogon> there must have been a reason for that?
[11:11] <ShorTie> not really sure, it's all in play
[11:13] <ShorTie> i was thinking if i use a 4-port hub, each with a hub on it, i could have 16 in a star config
[11:14] <ShorTie> but don't even know if that is even fezible
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[11:22] <gordonDrogon> I've no idea. I've only dabblied with 1w on an arduino. I went through a time when I did like them, but sort of went off the idea for a project I was looking at.
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[11:46] <Baikonur> does someone know if there's an IRC channel for pibang
[11:47] <Tachyon`> what is pibang?
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[11:52] <gordonDrogon> Tachyon`, it appears to be this: http://pibanglinux.org/
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[11:53] <Tachyon`> ahh, I see, thanks
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[12:00] <calvinx> I flashed ArchLinuxARM 2014 01 image directly to an SD card using the dd command on my Mac OS X and it seems to have completed properly. However, my image fails to boot on my RaspberryPi. How can I find out what I did wrong and why it does not boot?
[12:06] <[Saint]> "flashed"? There's a new one. I guess that's an Androidism carried over.
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[12:11] <RaTTuS|BIG> calvinx how many parttions does the sdcard have - what does it look like if you fdisk -l it
[12:11] <gordonDrogon> calvinx, mount the SD card back no the Mac and check the first partition..
[12:12] <evil_dan2wik> The first partition must be fat right?
[12:12] <gordonDrogon> yes.
[12:12] <evil_dan2wik> k
[12:12] <evil_dan2wik> fat32?
[12:12] <gordonDrogon> /dev/mmcblk0p1 8192 122879 57344 c W95 FAT32 (LBA)
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[12:13] <evil_dan2wik> Is there something I can format to a 128mb SD card that is used for partitioning?
[12:13] <[Saint]> I...what?
[12:14] <evil_dan2wik> I need to expand the root partition of my USB root drive
[12:14] <evil_dan2wik> My windows computer won't do it and I can't work out how to do it from inside the pi
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[12:14] <[Saint]> What's wrong with doing it via the command line?
[12:14] <[Saint]> Oh.
[12:15] <[Saint]> Is rpi-config not smart enough to figure this out?
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[12:16] <evil_dan2wik> It can only expand SD cards apartently
[12:17] <[Saint]> You only have one option then.
[12:17] <[Saint]> Get familiar with CLI.
[12:21] <calvinx> RaTTuS|BIG: I flashed my SD Card again, this time with the archlinux 2013 07 22 image and it boots up fine
[12:21] <calvinx> So there must be something wrong with the ArchLinuxARM 2014 01 image
[12:22] <[Saint]> Checked the md5 sum?
[12:22] <[Saint]> You may have a corrupt file.
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[12:23] <gordonDrogon> evil_dan2wik, this: https://projects.drogon.net/raspberry-pi/initial-setup1/ is very old, but it might give you hints about resizing your USB drive.
[12:23] <evil_dan2wik> ok, I will look
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[12:26] <evil_dan2wik> I thought it was just this keyboard but I got a new one today and everything is still screwy.
[12:26] <evil_dan2wik> The n and spacebar don't work sometimes and certain keys are wrong.
[12:27] <gordonDrogon> auto repeats and missing keys?
[12:27] <[Saint]> Many wireless keyboards are hilariously messed up.
[12:27] <[Saint]> Drivers. Yay!
[12:27] <hyperair> O_o
[12:27] * hyperair has never had problems with wireless keyboards.
[12:27] <hyperair> the usb ones are.. usb.
[12:27] <hyperair> the bluetooth ones are pretty standard too
[12:27] <hyperair> what else are there?
[12:27] <[Saint]> Lucky boy and/or girl.
[12:28] <hyperair> what keyboard is that?
[12:28] <[Saint]> Lots of wireless keyboards refuse to play nice.
[12:28] <hyperair> which ones?
[12:28] <hyperair> i've used quite a number of logitech ones and a microsoft one even
[12:28] <evil_dan2wik> gordonDrogon, # is the pound sign, ' is #, vmbn spacebar and , are intermittent and pushing numpad 5 while pressing any of these seem to fix them.
[12:28] <hyperair> a few microsoft ones
[12:28] <hyperair> and they all played nice with ubuntu
[12:28] <[Saint]> evil_dan2wik: wrong locale
[12:29] <evil_dan2wik> [Saint], how do I change it?
[12:29] <hyperair> if you're talking about the rpi's usb port not supplying enouhg power for a usb wireless keyboard receiver, then that's not a driver problem either.
[12:29] <[Saint]> rpi-config
[12:29] <gordonDrogon> � is a pound sign.
[12:29] <gordonDrogon> mayb your locale is wrong.
[12:29] <[Saint]> hyperair: we're not
[12:30] <hyperair> O_o
[12:31] <[Saint]> As gordonDrogon mentioned, many wireless keyboards miss keys entirely or will send repeated keys.
[12:31] <hyperair> s/wireless//
[12:31] <evil_dan2wik> Mine are both wired
[12:31] <hyperair> not a driver problem, imo
[12:31] <hyperair> the usb ones pretend to be usb keyboards
[12:31] <hyperair> so it's all normal
[12:31] <hyperair> if there are driver issues, then it affects all keyboards
[12:32] <hyperair> or at least, the wirelessness isn't an issue
[12:32] <evil_dan2wik> no
[12:32] <[Saint]> Yeah, no.
[12:32] <evil_dan2wik> If it is a driver problem, wireless keyboards have a small change in the driver for handling the wireless part
[12:32] <hyperair> what can be an issue with wireless keyboards, as far as i've noticed, is that some of the older logitech keyboards have crappy latency
[12:32] <hyperair> some have intermittent connectivity
[12:32] <hyperair> but those aren't driver issues.
[12:33] <hyperair> why don't you point me to a specific keyboard model/driver then?
[12:33] <hyperair> i have *never* seen a wireless keyboard issue caused by driver problems.
[12:33] <[Saint]> Wireless Keyboard 800
[12:34] <[Saint]> Works everywhere but my pi(s)
[12:34] <hyperair> my friend has that
[12:34] <hyperair> he uses it on his archlinux
[12:34] <hyperair> it's probably a power thing, not a linux thing.
[12:34] <hyperair> or you're reaching the end of its range
[12:34] <[Saint]> Arch != raspbian
[12:34] <hyperair> it's linux
[12:34] <hyperair> the driver's the same
[12:35] <[Saint]> No.
[12:35] <hyperair> yes.
[12:35] <evil_dan2wik> wow
[12:35] <evil_dan2wik> lol no.
[12:35] <evil_dan2wik> no.
[12:35] <hyperair> lol yes.
[12:35] <hyperair> okay, what's different then?
[12:35] <[Saint]> Lets just stop inventing things.
[12:35] <hyperair> are we talking about the usb controller?
[12:35] <gordonDrogon> [Saint], I didn't say anything about wireless - my issues are to do with wired keyboards.
[12:35] <hyperair> the X11 driver?
[12:35] <hyperair> that's evdev by the way
[12:35] <evil_dan2wik> Just because it is linux does not mean it uses the same drivers
[12:36] <hyperair> evil_dan2wik: do you even know what driver your keyboard uses?
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[12:36] <evil_dan2wik> no.
[12:36] <evil_dan2wik> Mine isn't even using a driver right now.
[12:36] <hyperair> "isn't using a driver"
[12:36] <hyperair> well done.
[12:36] <evil_dan2wik> Well, it isn't plugged in so how can it be using a driver
[12:36] * hyperair sighs
[12:37] <hyperair> okay, fine when you plug it in
[12:37] <hyperair> do you know what driver it uses?
[12:37] <evil_dan2wik> no.
[12:37] <hyperair> so how do you know it's a different one from the one arch, debian and ubuntu use?
[12:37] <evil_dan2wik> I don't really care. It works, that is all the matters for me.
[12:37] <hyperair> see, then don't act like you know what you're talking about.
[12:38] <evil_dan2wik> I do though.
[12:38] <hyperair> no you don't.
[12:38] <hyperair> it's a linux kernel, and it uses he same driver. in fact, if you plugged your usb keyboard into a linux router running openwrt, it's probably the same driver as well
[12:38] <hyperair> by driver i'm talking about the kernel module handling it
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[12:38] <evil_dan2wik> The deveplerators don't need to keep drivers up to date.
[12:39] <[Saint]> In my case the Wireless 800 absolutely flips its balls in Raspbian, but as you mentioned, its fine in Arch, there's nothing I can put it down to other than Raspbian not catching up yet.
[12:39] <evil_dan2wik> Your kernal could be different to mine which it different to saint's
[12:39] <hyperair> [Saint]: have you tried using a powered usb hub?
[12:39] <[Saint]> hyperair: I use one indeed.
[12:39] <evil_dan2wik> hyperair, why?
[12:39] <hyperair> [Saint]: i've had a usb webcam come out with all kinds of funky colours on the Pi, but it worked fine the moment i put it through a powered usb hub.
[12:39] <[Saint]> 2A X 10 port, think that cuts the mustard. ;)
[12:40] <[Saint]> Shouldn't be power.
[12:40] <evil_dan2wik> If it works in the same comfiguration under another OS, why should it work in a different one?
[12:40] <[Saint]> And even if it was it wouldn;t explain it working in Arch but not Raspbian.
[12:40] <hyperair> [Saint]: hmm, you're using X11, right?
[12:40] <[Saint]> hyperair: cli only
[12:40] <hyperair> does it work in the arch tty then?
[12:41] <hyperair> seems very odd
[12:41] <[Saint]> It works across the board in arch, and totally flips in Raspbian with repeated keystrokes and sometimes plain wrong keys.
[12:41] <hyperair> afaik they all go through the same code handling generic usb keyboards, so it should work the same, as far as the /dev/event* stuff is concerned
[12:42] <hyperair> [Saint]: do you have the usbid of that keyboard?
[12:42] <evil_dan2wik> hyperair, how do you know they handle it the same?
[12:43] <hyperair> evil_dan2wik: because most of the codebase is shared.
[12:43] <evil_dan2wik> "most"
[12:44] <hyperair> evil_dan2wik: i'm not sure you understand this, but the usb keyboard driver is maintained within the linux kernel codebase
[12:44] <[Saint]> Hmmmm...maybe I'm being obtuse. How would I get the V/PID of the keyboard alone? Or did you mean just for the transiever in general?
[12:44] <hyperair> [Saint]: lsusb
[12:44] <hyperair> should be the tranceiver
[12:44] <evil_dan2wik> So?
[12:45] <[Saint]> That'll just list the transceiver
[12:45] <[Saint]> for both mouse/kb
[12:45] <hyperair> yeah that'll be fine.
[12:45] <[Saint]> Bus 001 Device 001: ID 045e:0745 Microsoft Corp. Nano Transceiver v1.0 for Bluetooth
[12:45] <evil_dan2wik> hyperair, If the keyboard works in 1 distro and doesn't in another then the part of code that does not include the "most" will be the problem
[12:46] <hyperair> heh? bluetooth?
[12:46] <[Saint]> the range on them is phenomenal.
[12:46] <[Saint]> with beans for power usage.
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[12:46] <hyperair> [Saint]: i'm pretty sure i've used this on the pi before..
[12:46] <[Saint]> and they're like...$8
[12:46] <hyperair> http://ilovepenguinstoo.blogspot.sg/2013/04/microsoft-wireless-desktop-800-and.html
[12:46] <hyperair> this one right?
[12:47] <hyperair> it's a keyboard + mouse set
[12:47] <[Saint]> That's the one.
[12:47] <[Saint]> I have like a dozen of them.
[12:47] <hyperair> i didn't like the feeling of the keys, but i remember using that with the pi
[12:47] <evil_dan2wik> The range is amazing for keyboards and mice but you will notice small ammounts of lag the further away you get.
[12:47] <hyperair> don't recall any issues though
[12:48] * hyperair needs to check again
[12:48] <hyperair> there's a pi and that keyboard in the local hackerspace
[12:48] <[Saint]> I absolutely cannot get it to work reliably in Raspbian.
[12:48] <hyperair> raspbmc is derived from raspbian right?
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[12:49] <[Saint]> 'tis indeed. No idea how tightly though.
[12:49] <hyperair> alright, i'll give it another go and see
[12:49] * hyperair has to go
[12:49] <hyperair> bye
[12:49] <[Saint]> Hmmm. Someone bothered to write this:
[12:49] <[Saint]> http://elinux.org/R-Pi_Troubleshooting#Wireless_Keyboard_trouble
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[12:50] <evil_dan2wik> lol
[12:50] <hyperair> i think it's quite unlikely to be a software issue.
[12:51] <hyperair> unless there's a bug in the driver of the usb controller
[12:51] <hyperair> everything on the other side of usb should work pretty consistently across distros
[12:51] <[Saint]> I could try capture the traffic and compare.
[12:52] <[Saint]> I need to check "the box" for the BT analyzer.
[12:52] <hyperair> =\
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[13:08] <evil_dan2wik> ...
[13:08] <evil_dan2wik> Someone just cracked into my pi
[13:09] <ShorTie> twasn't me
[13:09] <evil_dan2wik> All the partitions on both the SD card and the USB just erased themselves
[13:09] <evil_dan2wik> I guess thats what happens when you leave everything with default passwords...
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[13:09] <[Saint]> Oh dear.
[13:09] <chithead> this is not what you would expect if someone broke into your pi
[13:09] <ShorTie> what where you doing at the time ??
[13:10] <evil_dan2wik> nothing
[13:10] <[Saint]> chithead: I agree. Getting in there is no fun if you're not going to set up shop.
[13:10] <evil_dan2wik> I was watching TV while my Pi was sitting there idle and then it kernal paniced
[13:10] <[Saint]> It is unlikely.
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[13:11] <chithead> other hardware or software problems are more likely to cause these symptoms
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[13:11] <evil_dan2wik> On both the SD card and the USB?
[13:11] <ShorTie> how did they get in, you have port 22 opened up to it ??
[13:12] <evil_dan2wik> All my incoming ports are closed
[13:12] <evil_dan2wik> actually, I wonder how they got in...
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[13:12] <[Saint]> Then the only option would be them in your local network.
[13:12] <[Saint]> Its highly unlikely this was anything other than a hardware/software issue.
[13:13] <ShorTie> more likely a power issue, imho
[13:13] <evil_dan2wik> Well anyway, I made an image backup an hour ago.
[13:13] <[Saint]> Unless the doors are wide open.
[13:13] <evil_dan2wik> Well, my house is closed, 7 people live here, I am the only one who knows how to do anything technical and the others aren't even on computers.
[13:14] <[Saint]> I was being more metaphorical than literal.
[13:15] <evil_dan2wik> I'll restore the image and if it happens again then i'll monitor stuff.
[13:16] <evil_dan2wik> I don't even have logs because everything is formatted.
[13:17] <ShorTie> might check your voltage at tp1-tp2 to see how good your power supply is working
[13:18] <ShorTie> a good powered hub might be a thing to get out of that 400
[13:19] <evil_dan2wik> 4.7v
[13:20] <evil_dan2wik> But no reason for the SD card to loose it's partition table, It is used purely for boot and then unmounted.
[13:20] <ShorTie> little on the low side, i think it is 5 +/- .25 is what they like
[13:21] <evil_dan2wik> My power supply is my router which is giving 4.93v
[13:21] <ShorTie> your power drops and you get a brown out will cause file curruption just like you have
[13:22] <evil_dan2wik> But how would the SD card be corrupt?
[13:22] <evil_dan2wik> USBs aren't affected much by power loss
[13:22] <evil_dan2wik> and the Pi was idle
[13:22] <evil_dan2wik> The SD card was unmounted
[13:27] <ShorTie> power a rPi by router doesn't really sound like a good power source to me
[13:27] <evil_dan2wik> It is.
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[13:28] <ShorTie> heck, those other 6 peeps in your house could have started using the internet cause a load on the router which made the voltage drop
[13:28] <evil_dan2wik> The router's usb port is for external wireless dongles and is stable with ripple of 13mv and 1.3 amps max out
[13:28] <ShorTie> and 5v is not the main thing to look for in a power supply
[13:29] <evil_dan2wik> Well what is?
[13:29] <ShorTie> a amp output of 1a or greaater is more important
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[13:29] <evil_dan2wik> The router's usb port is 1.3amp, the power supply pack is 2 amps
[13:29] <ShorTie> gotta have enough power (amps) to keep the voltage up
[13:30] <evil_dan2wik> yes...
[13:30] <ShorTie> i find it hard to believe a router is pushing 1.3a out a usb port, but that is just mho
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[13:33] <evil_dan2wik> There is a large cap beside the usb port inside the router for voltage stablization
[13:33] <evil_dan2wik> The Pi is only using 430ma
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[13:34] <evil_dan2wik> The router + Pi is drawing 970ma
[13:34] <evil_dan2wik> well within the power supply's limits.
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[13:37] <evil_dan2wik> The Pi just kernel paniced again and erased the usb and SD card even though the SD card was write protected and unmounted
[13:40] <ShorTie> write protected, you mean that little plastic part on the sdcard ??
[13:40] <evil_dan2wik> yes
[13:40] <ShorTie> by the by, it is ignored by the rPi, serves no usefull purpose
[13:40] <evil_dan2wik> ok...
[13:41] <[Saint]> Correct.
[13:41] <[Saint]> Unless its actually mounted RO, its not protected.
[13:42] <[Saint]> That tab is meaningless on a pi.
[13:42] <evil_dan2wik> Well, It wasn't mounted at all.
[13:42] <evil_dan2wik> It boots and then unmounts
[13:43] <[Saint]> It needn't be mounted to be formatted remember.
[13:43] <evil_dan2wik> Not formatted
[13:44] <evil_dan2wik> It looks like someone has just done dd if=/dev/random to both the usb and the SD card
[13:44] <[Saint]> Well, earased, whatever. It not being mounted doesn't mean it can't be written to.
[13:44] <[Saint]> Or, over, technically, I guess.
[13:45] <gordonDrogon> so...
[13:45] <ShorTie> actually, i don't think you can 'unmount' the sdcard
[13:46] <ShorTie> it is where the kernel lies
[13:46] <gordonDrogon> you can unmount /boot
[13:46] <gordonDrogon> but not /
[13:46] <ShorTie> oh, ok, my bad
[13:46] <evil_dan2wik> the / is on the USB
[13:47] * gordonDrogon nods. still can't umnount it when running.
[13:47] <pksato> to umount some fs need to close all open FDs.
[13:47] <gordonDrogon> I've never botthered putting / (or anything) on a usb drive on the Pi.
[13:47] <gordonDrogon> It just seems like more to go wrong.
[13:48] <ShorTie> how did you put / on the usb ??
[13:49] <[Saint]> For some people the sdcard adds more of a risk of failure. Whatever reason that is is unknown to me. Sdcsrd just doesn't seem to enjoy the abuse.
[13:49] <gordonDrogon> cp -a from a live SD system is the easiest IMO...
[13:49] <ShorTie> and did you change cmdline.txt ??
[13:49] <ShorTie> just writing the image to it is imho
[13:49] <evil_dan2wik> I unmounted the SD card and then took it out and it is fine.
[13:49] <gordonDrogon> I'm experimenting with NFS root though. Got a nice little working system - just need to market it at some point.
[13:51] <ShorTie> but if you didn't change cmdline.txt to point to it, i'm not real sure you did much
[13:52] <evil_dan2wik> Kernel panic again, the USB is formatted again, SD card is removed and fine. There was a connection from one of the local computers
[13:52] <[Saint]> Mine is btrfs on a "real" USB HDD. Going OK so far.
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[13:53] <evil_dan2wik> It seems to try a list of default passwords for various linux distros and then formats the hard drives
[13:53] <[Saint]> Based on...?
[13:53] <evil_dan2wik> with sudo dd if=/dev/random if=/dev/$hdd
[13:53] <ShorTie> most howto's say change password 1st i think
[13:53] <evil_dan2wik> probably
[13:54] <evil_dan2wik> I just didn't think I would get hacked.
[13:54] <[Saint]> If you're correct, and I'm stating for the record I doubt it highly, you local network is compromised.
[13:54] <evil_dan2wik> Of course, the only computer in the house without virus protection.
[13:55] <[Saint]> What's your reasoning behind stating the method of action you believe is taking place here?
[13:55] <evil_dan2wik> And guests use the computer all the time, it isn't mine so I didn't have a say over who uses it until this just happened.
[13:56] <[Saint]> Logs would be nice. Otherwise its wild speculation.
[13:56] <[Saint]> You said specifically that "its trying default passwords", what lead to this conclusion?
[13:57] <evil_dan2wik> I booted my linux box and got a load of failed attempts with those passwords
[13:58] <gordonDrogon> is your linux box directly connected to the Internet?
[13:58] <evil_dan2wik> root, admin, default, , linux, ubuntu, password, 12345, raspberry, raspbian, test, ssh
[13:58] <[Saint]> I think this is unlikely to say the least. You don't break in somewhere to destroy it.
[13:58] <[Saint]> You set up shop.
[13:59] <evil_dan2wik> All my internet access is uncontrolable due to the other people I live with
[13:59] <evil_dan2wik> They are the weak link in my network.
[13:59] <evil_dan2wik> Computer is off and so far no kernel panic on the Pi
[13:59] <[Saint]> You said you were doing no forwarding and had no ports open. So if its an attacker, it must be local.
[14:00] <evil_dan2wik> The local computer has the whatever on it.
[14:00] <evil_dan2wik> Someone must of downloaded something on it.
[14:00] <[Saint]> Ohhhh...the whatever. Problem solved then. O_o
[14:01] <evil_dan2wik> I can just format the hard drive, it is only porn (literally)
[14:02] <evil_dan2wik> I should sleep
[14:02] <gordonDrogon> always good to sleep on a problem.
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[14:04] <evil_dan2wik> Should just buy my own internet so they can't interfere
[14:04] <gordonDrogon> if you can afford it.
[14:05] <evil_dan2wik> probably not
[14:06] <evil_dan2wik> before now it has just been my TV, my windows PC and my linux PC.
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[14:06] <evil_dan2wik> anyway, bye
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[14:35] <[SLB]> official forum is down?
[14:35] <[SLB]> hm maybe updating
[14:35] <Pankoi> Looks up to me.
[14:36] <Pankoi> They've just updated the site I think, so it's been down most of the morning, but seems done now.
[14:37] <[SLB]> oh they changed the url from phpBB3 to forums, so i have to update the bookmarks..
[14:37] <[SLB]> thanks
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[14:47] <Pankoi> Although weirdly, I'm now getting it redirecting to http://www.raspberrypi.org/forumsssssssssssssssssssss/ before it decides it's stuck in a redirect loop...
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[14:48] <Pankoi> I think it's just keeping on redirecting with an 's' on the end each time. :P
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[14:48] <MrVector> Great, just what I came here to learn about :D
[14:48] <Pankoi> Heh. ;)
[14:49] <Pankoi> It was working fine five minutes ago, so someone will probably spot it soon.
[14:49] <MrVector> They seem to have downgraded the website over the night, from the flashy look they had yesterday
[14:49] <[Saint]> Remember the date.
[14:49] <Pankoi> Hah - seen some of the 'feedback' they've been retweeting?
[14:49] <[Saint]> :)
[14:49] <MrVector> Not been on twitter at all
[14:50] <MrVector> [Saint], it is Yesterdays layout I was referring to as "flashy" ;)
[14:50] <[Saint]> Ah. :)
[14:50] <[Saint]> Last I checked it was still stuck in that state.
[14:51] <[Saint]> And half functional.
[14:51] <[Saint]> I think a revert broke.
[14:51] <MrVector> Well today it seem to have gotten a facelift
[14:51] <MrVector> Looks all Windows 8-y
[14:51] <[Saint]> Ew.
[14:57] <MrVector> Hah, loving these tweets
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[14:58] <MrVector> Bah! I went on the Pi website to actually look something up and ended up reading funny tweets instead
[14:58] <MrVector> Curse you, Pankoi!
[14:58] <Pankoi> :D
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[15:09] <MrVector> Drats!
[15:14] <[SLB]> oh >_<
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[15:50] <blockh34d> morning
[15:52] <Pankoi> Hey. :)
[15:52] <blockh34d> hows your game doing?
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[15:53] <Pankoi> Neither here nor there - improving the shaders so far today, which is yielding results, but slow going. How's scamp doing in the big, bad world?
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[15:53] <blockh34d> 0 page views, 0 downloads
[15:54] <blockh34d> kinda makes me wonder actually
[15:54] <blockh34d> but not that much
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[15:54] <Pankoi> Hrm - want me to see if I can find out if there's a problem with the numbers?
[15:54] <blockh34d> do you think pistore minds me deeplinking some of the screen shot images for a rpi.org/forums post? like i did here at http://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=35&t=73653
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[15:55] <blockh34d> well its not a big deal but you know what'd be awesome is is if anyone could *definately* view hat page and download it, than in a day or so we could see if the numbers change
[15:55] <blockh34d> seems like the rpi ppl are busy with a bunhc of stuff anyways, its not a big deal
[15:55] <Pankoi> I doubt the hotlinking is a problem. :)
[15:55] <blockh34d> great yah that was my thought
[15:56] <Pankoi> Sure - I'll download it on one of my other accounts. I'll also ask a colleague to take a look at the numbers (I know they're broken for my account, for example, but they usually work for other people's)
[15:56] <blockh34d> huh
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[15:56] <blockh34d> maybe thats wahts going on? i really don't know
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[15:56] <blockh34d> like i said, its not a big deal just kind of a head scratcher here
[15:56] <Pankoi> Yeah - I'll see if I can get someone to take look. It's there to be informational, so it kinda sucks if it's not doing that.
[15:56] <blockh34d> ah well it could be
[15:57] <blockh34d> theres nothing to definately suggest those numbers are wrong
[15:57] <blockh34d> lol
[15:57] <blockh34d> let me know if i can help
[15:57] <blockh34d> np
[15:57] <blockh34d> btw pi3d might be a good place to look for info on pi and opengles2
[15:57] <blockh34d> i know its all python but its a start
[15:58] <blockh34d> you're coding in c ya?
[15:58] <Pankoi> C++. I've been meaning to go through the samples in /opt/vc for a bit - my code works on my laptop, but not really on the Pi, so I think I'm configuring something incorrectly. I'm pretty sure I'll pick up what once I get the time to look. :)
[15:59] <blockh34d> yah ok thats what it sounded like was going on
[15:59] <blockh34d> fyi pi3d has an x86 port i believe
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[15:59] <blockh34d> i keep meaning to try to do some crossplatform development with it
[15:59] <blockh34d> i'm working straight on the pi to avoid that hurdle but i dont know how realistic that is long run
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[16:00] <Pankoi> Yeah - I've used a cross-compiler previously, but the 512MB of RAM on the Pi these days makes compiling directly on it much more feasible. :)
[16:01] <blockh34d> yah i can't believe it compiled llvm
[16:01] <blockh34d> only took it 16 hours
[16:01] <Pankoi> Ouch. :P
[16:01] <blockh34d> yah then it didnt really work as i had hoped either so... live and learn
[16:01] <blockh34d> but it did correctly compile the thing
[16:02] <blockh34d> LLVM sounds neat, someday i'll figure it out
[16:02] <Pankoi> I remember when we first started developing the Pi Store and a couple of experimental compiles were done right on the Pi. That didn't last long. ;)
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[16:02] <blockh34d> haha yah
[16:02] <blockh34d> maybe with a thin client, something liek that
[16:02] <xtalmath> what is the status of the GPU driver on the raspberry? i just read month old news of contest to port the driver to pi? has anything happened in the meanwhile?
[16:03] <blockh34d> dunno if you've used scamp any more, any other issues pop up since you updated?
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[16:03] <blockh34d> xtalmath: yes i just got a copy to look at last night
[16:03] <blockh34d> they can draw a triangle
[16:03] <Pankoi> blockh34d: Haven't had much chance, but not with anything I've tried. I'll copy some stuff over from my RaspBMC later and try it out with that. :)
[16:03] <blockh34d> and its colored in a way that makes me think textured poly are not far off
[16:03] <blockh34d> Pankoi: no worries just keeping my ear to the ground for any troubles
[16:04] <Pankoi> xtalmath: Did you see this? http://www.raspberrypi.org/quake-iii-bounty-we-have-a-winner/
[16:04] <Pankoi> blockh34d: Sure - I'll let you know if I hear anything or experience anything myself. :)
[16:04] <blockh34d> xtalmath: from what i udnerstand pretty much anyone is welcome to try to figure out driver code
[16:04] <blockh34d> so you should have a look if you want
[16:05] <blockh34d> i got it to compile but frankly no idea what to do with the .so it creates afterwords
[16:05] <blockh34d> libV3D2.so
[16:05] <blockh34d> where's that supposed to go?
[16:05] <blockh34d> Pankoi: hey great thanks :)
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[16:24] <xtalmath> does anyone know when "the intrnets own boy" will be out?
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[16:25] <blockh34d> ? no idea what that is
[16:25] <blockh34d> a movie or book or something?
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[16:42] <MobChrome> anyone around to help me get this Pi online via wifi?
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[16:43] <MobChrome> there is a pass on the router so i need to enter that to get access but not sure how i would do that
[16:43] <blockh34d> you in x?
[16:45] <blockh34d> in x theres a desktop icon 'wifi config' which is pretty well labeled and i found self explanatory
[16:45] <blockh34d> but if you try it and have problems let me know and maybe i can help
[16:45] <MobChrome> blockh34d: no X
[16:45] <MobChrome> if i had X would have been done
[16:45] <MobChrome> heh
[16:45] <blockh34d> right
[16:45] <blockh34d> yah seems pretty easy right
[16:46] <MobChrome> with X yes
[16:46] <blockh34d> sec i'm gonna google a little
[16:46] <MobChrome> without no lol
[16:46] <blockh34d> i like to know stuff, lets figure this out
[16:46] <MobChrome> i tried that also lol
[16:46] <MobChrome> ok
[16:46] <MobChrome> i did that yesterday BTW
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[16:46] <blockh34d> googled?
[16:47] <MobChrome> yes
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[16:48] <blockh34d> ok what do you get with a:
[16:48] <blockh34d> sudo nano /etc/network/interfaces
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[16:50] <blockh34d> i would take a look at http://learn.adafruit.com/adafruits-raspberry-pi-lesson-3-network-setup/setting-up-wifi-with-occidentalis
[16:50] <blockh34d> thats where i'm at right now
[16:50] <blockh34d> i'll type an example of what that file should look like if you cant view that page
[16:51] <blockh34d> its not very long, chan regulars mind if i put it in this window?
[16:53] <MobChrome> blockh34d: msg me
[16:53] <blockh34d> yah beter that way i think
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[16:53] <IT_Sean> either pm or pastebin it
[16:54] <sgiratch> Is there a new version of pi on the horizon?
[16:54] <IT_Sean> no
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[16:54] <MobChrome> IT_Sean: we got it tanks my man
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[17:37] <vlt> Hello. What is the currently recommended way to create a multiboot image that boots raspbian or raspbmc from USB?
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[19:42] <[SLB]> i forgot which scripts contains the commands executed after login, not rc.local, and apparently nor /etc/motd, the one that shows the kernel and last login lines
[19:42] <[SLB]> in raspbian
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[19:43] <RainMan28> something in /etc/init.d/ ?
[19:44] <[SLB]> hm possibly, let's see
[19:44] <Jusii> no, init.d contains only scritps that are run on boot and shutdown, run level changes etc
[19:44] <[SLB]> hm right
[19:45] <[SLB]> maybe some bash profile
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[19:45] <Jusii> after login you're looking scripts like /etc/profile
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[19:45] <Jusii> and those in your home dir that start with . try: ls -a
[19:45] <Jusii> .profile, .bashrc
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[19:47] <[SLB]> hm i checked those already but can't find find anything, maybe it's ssh config, let me see that too
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[19:50] <[SLB]> if i do su - nothing shows up, only after sshing, so i believe it's the general ssh config hm
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[20:01] <[SLB]> /etc/ssh/sshd_config PrintMotd
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[20:04] <MobGod> anyone that can help with arch having my wifi just drop after i have it going the interface just goes by by so i have to than netctl start profile
[20:04] <[SLB]> i've read sometimes you need to ping the router once every few minutes to prevent connection drop
[20:05] <MobGod> [SLB] really
[20:05] <[SLB]> yes but i'm not sure it's your particular case
[20:06] <MobGod> hjow would i set that up i mean this drops in like a min not even sometimes when i reboot it also does not save the profile
[20:06] <MobGod> i i have to start the profile again so it will connect to the wifi
[20:06] <[SLB]> is it only the first time or it keeps dropping after you restart it the first time?
[20:06] <MobGod> [SLB] could it be a POS adapter ?
[20:06] <[SLB]> maybe, not sure :\
[20:06] <MobGod> [SLB] no it drops even after that
[20:07] <MobGod> is there a log file i can look at for somwthing like this
[20:07] <MobGod> really don'
[20:07] <MobGod> t see to much in dmesg
[20:07] <MobGod> oops *
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[20:08] <[SLB]> useful logs are in /var/log/kern.log, messages, syslog
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[20:49] <LordThumper> Hi, my Pi does not boot every time I power it up. What could the issue be?
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[20:51] <ShorTie> lots of things
[20:51] <IT_Sean> ^
[20:51] <ShorTie> what does it do ??
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[20:52] <ShorTie> or doesn't do more specifically
[20:52] <LordThumper> It doesn't boot (red light only)
[20:53] <NineX> op ksoh
[20:53] <IT_Sean> wha?
[20:53] <NineX> op kosh
[20:53] <IT_Sean> op kosh?
[20:53] <eggster> what?
[20:53] <IT_Sean> what?
[20:54] <ShorTie> so, ok sometimes but not others, i'd check the sdcard connections, some cards are thin and might need a little shim
[20:54] <NineX> oops
[20:54] <IT_Sean> oops?
[20:54] <NineX> sorry
[20:54] <IT_Sean> (e_e )
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[20:55] <LordThumper> ShorTie, is there a particular SD card that is proven to work?
[20:56] <LordThumper> I am using a Samsung, and it appears to have decent build quality
[20:57] <eggster> took me several sd cards to find one that worked well with the pi long term
[20:57] <LordThumper> NineX: Babylon 5?
[20:57] <LordThumper> eggster: What's the card?
[20:57] <LordThumper> If you don't mind sharing
[20:57] <eggster> Sorry, I don't have the info off hand. Pi is not in front of me right now.
[20:57] <LordThumper> Np
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[20:59] <NineX> lordthumper: yes
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[21:00] <LordThumper> NineX: Well I was clear enough afaik
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[21:30] <Jusii> official card is 'bullet proof'
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[21:30] <Jusii> and it's samsung
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[21:38] <[Saint]> Oh God...
[21:38] * LordThumper (LordThumpe@unaffiliated/lordthumper) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)
[21:38] <[Saint]> Raspberry Pi pulled a Slashdot.
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[21:39] <[Saint]> "Here, "try" our new Beta"
[21:39] <[Saint]> With no "Oh God, really? Gimme the old one back" button.
[21:40] * ShorTie snickers
[21:40] <[Saint]> That top bar is really awful.
[21:40] <[Saint]> It jumps around horribly when scrolling up.
[21:40] <ShorTie> what top bar ??
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[21:41] <[Saint]> The blog/downloads/community/etc. thing.
[21:41] <[Saint]> I won't say what colors it is as I'll get it wrong.
[21:41] <[Saint]> ...there's a red panel, I think.
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[21:42] <[Saint]> Not having a side bar in the forums is also a bit of a weird one, IMO.
[21:43] <[Saint]> Actually having to scroll down to the bottom of the page to get to the sub you want is...nice? :)
[21:44] <[Saint]> Welp. They do say "beta", which implies room for change.
[21:45] <sgiratch> I've got a question. Im doing this: http://www.instructables.com/id/Raspberry-Pi-Temperature-Humidity-Network-Monitor/?ALLSTEPS#step8
[21:45] <sgiratch> But I can't find th.c
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[21:46] <sgiratch> Ive tried "find . -type f -iname '*th.c'", but it returns nothing
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[21:48] <[Saint]> My guess is "make th" failed.
[21:48] <[Saint]> I would revisit that.
[21:48] <[Saint]> Either way, its not there...so, something messed up.
[21:48] <sgiratch> but thats the line below "now copy th.c ...."
[21:49] <[Saint]> Oh. Whoops. Misread.
[21:49] * [Saint] shrugs
[21:49] <[Saint]> "random directions on teh infowebz" are oft frought with error.
[21:50] <sgiratch> HMm, but this one seemd so watertight
[21:50] <[Saint]> It honestly wouldn;t surprise me if one or several steps are missing and/or incomplete.
[21:50] <sgiratch> Everything has been going along with the plan
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[21:51] <sgiratch> Tried building it.
[21:51] <sgiratch> pi@raspberrypi ~/wiringPi/examples $ make th
[21:51] <sgiratch> make: *** No rule to make target `th'. Stop.
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[21:51] <sgiratch> hah!
[21:52] <sgiratch> Th.c is included THERE
[21:52] <sgiratch> On instructables
[21:52] <sgiratch> doh
[21:52] <[Saint]> Oh. Heh. Hooray for ambiguous wording! ;)
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[21:53] <gordonDrogon> oh. big old instructible that.
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[22:03] <DeathMan|> hello
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[22:06] <DeathMan|> so after quite long time is there any other media center or movie player for raspberry pi than xbmc?
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[22:07] <IT_Sean> what flavour of xbmc were you using?
[22:08] <[Saint]> There's Raspbmc...but, that's not going to be any better.
[22:08] <[Saint]> In fact its bound to be worse really. Its a lot heavier.
[22:09] <IT_Sean> I found OpenELEC to work quiet well, when i was using my Pi as an entertainment system
[22:09] <eggster> never have liked.. Raspbmc
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[22:12] <[Saint]> Are you using HDMI?
[22:12] <[Saint]> Maybe you have HDMI viruses. You need one of thes:
[22:12] <[Saint]> http://www.zdnet.com/this-xbox-hdmi-cable-has-anti-virus-protection-7000001601/
[22:12] <DeathMan|> well i am using rasplex
[22:12] <DeathMan|> but everything i did find is either xbmc or openelec based
[22:14] <DeathMan|> going to try this one too http://raspyplayer.org/raspyplayer-mc.html but no covers and movie descriptions :/ and i have no idea if it will work with network storage
[22:14] <eggster> lol - cables having 'anti-virus protection'
[22:14] <[Saint]> :)
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[22:15] <DeathMan|> mhm
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[22:25] * [Saint] sincerely hopes that isn't automated
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[22:26] <[Saint]> Or, if it is, it isn't reliant solely on the poking message.
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[23:43] <nicdev> can't afford one at the moment but i would love to own one of these. some of you here might find it interesting http://www.bunniestudios.com/blog/?p=3657
[23:45] <[Saint]> Its just sad that its basically impossible to do large scale affordable "open" HW.
[23:45] <[Saint]> Unless you're already a major player in the market - which you likely didn't get to by being open.
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[23:48] <biberao> hi anyone using squeezeplug?
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[23:50] <biberao> and another question if i update the raspberry pi sound firmware its at the OS level right?
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