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IRC Log for 2014-04-04

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[0:00] * ksx4system is now known as FSB
[0:00] <AbbyTheRat> so it was adding the old value for the top part of the block
[0:00] * FSB is now known as ksx4system
[0:00] <AbbyTheRat> which is 60, old value is 30, so it was putting 30 on top still (hence why the text was dropped down)
[0:00] <AbbyTheRat> cause the text thought the spacing was 60
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[0:01] <Raynerd> So is paddingh = 6- correct
[0:01] <Raynerd> 60
[0:01] <AbbyTheRat> you don't need to add both top and bottom padding
[0:01] <Raynerd> How did you get into coding??
[0:01] <AbbyTheRat> but rather just the padding for one
[0:01] <AbbyTheRat> the code paddingh * 2 does that for us
[0:01] <AbbyTheRat> so really we only want it for the space on top
[0:02] <AbbyTheRat> if we did the total, we had no way knowing just how much space we want on top when we come to add the start location for the grid
[0:02] <Raynerd> lol :-/
[0:02] <Raynerd> Now I got more space on top!!!
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[0:03] <Raynerd> http://pastie.org/8992568
[0:03] <Raynerd> **crys**
[0:04] <AbbyTheRat> you're not understanding me right, are you? ^_^;
[0:04] <AbbyTheRat> but that's exactly what you want realy!
[0:04] <AbbyTheRat> really*
[0:04] <Raynerd> I don`t understand this box position at all...
[0:04] <Raynerd> no
[0:04] <AbbyTheRat> the space top and bottom look the same now, right?
[0:05] <AbbyTheRat> ok, I need a whiteboard to explain this
[0:05] <Raynerd> I have spent hours playing with the code and I don`t see at all how the box is layed out and positioned
[0:05] <AbbyTheRat> yeah, I can explain that
[0:05] <AbbyTheRat> but I need a whiteboard!
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[0:05] <Raynerd> Do you code for a living?
[0:05] <AbbyTheRat> I don't
[0:05] <Raynerd> just for fun??
[0:05] <AbbyTheRat> I did at one time
[0:05] <Raynerd> hobby?
[0:05] <AbbyTheRat> neither
[0:05] <Raynerd> ?
[0:05] <AbbyTheRat> not anymore, I er
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[0:06] <AbbyTheRat> I was young when I working as a programmer
[0:06] <Raynerd> ur 28 aren`t you?
[0:06] <Raynerd> When I was young!!!!!???
[0:06] <AbbyTheRat> still maturing and everything and I had this co-worker who was a bully
[0:06] <AbbyTheRat> yeah, 10 years ago, at least
[0:07] <Raynerd> should have kicked his but ....metaphorically of course, this is a family channel :-)
[0:07] <AbbyTheRat> was the last time I coded professionally
[0:07] <AbbyTheRat> yeah, but I was young and my mind wasn't really fully developed, I didn't know things
[0:07] <AbbyTheRat> so I lost a LOT of confident due to that
[0:07] <Raynerd> So how come you hang here #raspberrypi
[0:07] <AbbyTheRat> and I never really regained it
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[0:08] <Raynerd> just curious!
[0:08] <AbbyTheRat> cause I decided that maybe I should regain confident and taken on a project to sort out a need I have in real life
[0:08] <Raynerd> Sounds good!!!
[0:08] <AbbyTheRat> which is being the alarm clock with pill reminder
[0:08] <Raynerd> And have you a project
[0:08] <AbbyTheRat> to build out of the pi
[0:08] <AbbyTheRat> yep, a project I'm most likely will try to complete
[0:09] <AbbyTheRat> no matter how hard it gets
[0:09] <AbbyTheRat> it got hard right away, stupid #python <_<;
[0:09] <ShorTie> thats the spirt
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[0:09] <Raynerd> Ahhh nice! Make it a binary clock: :-) I made one once: http://www.raynerd.co.uk/?p=472
[0:09] <Raynerd> You kick my ass with code - you could make a killer clock with pill alarm reminder :-)
[0:10] <AbbyTheRat> I can think logically that's needed for coding
[0:10] <AbbyTheRat> that's no problem for me, I am a very good debugger
[0:10] <AbbyTheRat> the rest is just experience needed
[0:10] <Squarepy> Raynerd, where is the part two to that link?
[0:10] <AbbyTheRat> specially considering I've not touched python until what.. er.. 4 months ago now?
[0:11] <Squarepy> AbbyTheRat, python is well fun
[0:11] <rikkib> C
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[0:11] <AbbyTheRat> I came from a different programming background before python so it got me really confused for a bit
[0:11] <AbbyTheRat> I'm getting the hang of it slowly, but surely.
[0:12] <AbbyTheRat> PHP and Java was the easiest for me to learn
[0:12] <Raynerd> Squarepy - http://www.raynerd.co.uk/?p=462 and then the working code: http://www.raynerd.co.uk/?p=462
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[0:12] <AbbyTheRat> mostly because of how tutionals were layed out, I think
[0:12] <AbbyTheRat> and programming functions, I think.. I dunno why
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[0:13] <AbbyTheRat> BUT ANYWAY to help more, Let see if I can't explain how the positioning works
[0:13] <Raynerd> I`m going to get battered here, but I have two friends that are good programmers and neither hold python in any high regard!! :-S
[0:13] <Squarepy> thanks Raynerd
[0:13] <AbbyTheRat> you want my honest opinion about programming language?
[0:13] <Raynerd> yes
[0:14] <AbbyTheRat> a lot of programmers tend to try and "swiss knife" their favorite languages, which is fair enough but each language really do have different abilites
[0:14] <rikkib> C
[0:14] <AbbyTheRat> enough to say that each language is a different tool
[0:15] <Raynerd> I don`t know enough about it, other than they both seem to sneer at python. One is a high end games programmer and the other does something to do with banks internet security on the websites
[0:15] <AbbyTheRat> python, as I understand, is good for being highly abstact and can tie into other languages easily
[0:16] <rikkib> Interpreted languages = me not like.
[0:16] <AbbyTheRat> lua is good for exposing programming language for like modding
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[0:16] <AbbyTheRat> and so on
[0:17] <AbbyTheRat> these days, you're getting more and more likely to find a program has several different languages under the hood
[0:17] <AbbyTheRat> Anyway, we've gotten sidetracked, Raynerd
[0:17] <Raynerd> :-)
[0:17] <AbbyTheRat> I need to try and explain how the screen thing works
[0:17] <Squarepy> interesting stuff
[0:18] <Squarepy> so how does the screen work?
[0:19] <Raynerd> screen ...
[0:19] <rikkib> SolderingIron = on;
[0:20] <rikkib> http://www.zlham.geek.nz/images/news/rpi-mc9s08-1.jpg
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[0:20] <AbbyTheRat> ok, Raynerd, you might need to use something other then pi for this link but it'll help - http://cosketch.com/Rooms/cbdsyfl
[0:21] <rikkib> Add LDR & Temp sensor
[0:21] <AbbyTheRat> nothing loading
[0:21] <AbbyTheRat> rikkib: nohting loading
[0:21] <AbbyTheRat> oh there we go.. very slowly
[0:21] <AbbyTheRat> oh no wonder.. it's freaking huge
[0:21] <rikkib> 100K adsl out
[0:22] <rikkib> 1M in
[0:22] <AbbyTheRat> that doesn't help
[0:22] <Squarepy> ha, felt like 10 years ago
[0:22] <rikkib> NZ
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[0:22] <Squarepy> nice
[0:22] <Raynerd> *confused
[0:22] <AbbyTheRat> are you on the page, Raynerd?
[0:23] <Raynerd> Yes!
[0:23] <AbbyTheRat> the box I've drawn is the screen
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[0:24] <Raynerd> So top left is 0,0
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[0:24] <AbbyTheRat> the first step is finding or defining the size of the screen
[0:25] <Raynerd> ok
[0:25] <AbbyTheRat> to make it simple we just say it's 1000 wide and 900 deep
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[0:26] <Raynerd> k
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[0:26] <AbbyTheRat> what would be the number for the pixels in the bottom right of the box?
[0:27] <Raynerd> 1000,900
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[0:27] <AbbyTheRat> yep! Ok, we want to draw a line with a space on top, 30 pixels down, right?
[0:28] <Raynerd> yes
[0:29] <AbbyTheRat> so we define a start point and a end point to draw a line (I'm trying to stick with how it would be done in python a bit but for now I'm ignoring the grid, just enough to explain what's happening)
[0:29] <AbbyTheRat> so what would be the start point and end point for the line?
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[0:29] <Raynerd> 0 start , 1000 end 30 down
[0:30] <AbbyTheRat> ? error, I don't know what the start point is
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[0:30] <rikkib> Did you drill the holes for the binary clock... Real skill there... I still find it hard to do the machine work...
[0:30] <AbbyTheRat> you need to define both the h and w
[0:30] <Raynerd> rikkib - yes, I am an hobby engineer and clockmaker www.raynerd.co.uk my projects
[0:30] <AbbyTheRat> for both start point of the line and the end point of the line
[0:30] <Raynerd> aHHHH!
[0:31] <Raynerd> 0,30 1000,30
[0:31] <AbbyTheRat> yep
[0:31] <Squarepy> :)
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[0:32] <rikkib> Ahhh I remember the clocks. Could not remember who made them.
[0:32] <Raynerd> :-)
[0:32] <AbbyTheRat> ok, now.. now we want space on the bottom, 30 pixels from the bottom
[0:32] <AbbyTheRat> what would be the start and end point for that line?
[0:32] <Squarepy> AbbyTheRat, are you explaining something?
[0:32] <Raynerd> yes, 0,870 1000,870
[0:32] <AbbyTheRat> yes
[0:33] <AbbyTheRat> trying to help Raynerd visually his codes a bit
[0:33] <Raynerd> My limited coding is C microcontrollers and arduino - so graphics is new as is objects!
[0:33] * rikkib takes to a piece of vero board with a mini drill to cut tracks (dentist bit)
[0:34] <AbbyTheRat> Raynerd: okie.. since I know the top and bottom is going to be a fixed 30 pixels, I could turn the 30 into a variable, right?
[0:35] <Raynerd> sure
[0:35] <AbbyTheRat> and the size of the screen is also fixed, so we could make those a variable too
[0:35] <Raynerd> paddingh for example
[0:35] <Raynerd> our screen size is in the example but not the game
[0:35] <AbbyTheRat> exactly
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[0:35] <AbbyTheRat> we have to draw the grids, there's a function that does it from what I read
[0:36] <AbbyTheRat> and it has a start point defined
[0:36] <AbbyTheRat> which would be?
[0:36] <ShorTie> 0,30
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[0:36] <Raynerd> ??
[0:37] <AbbyTheRat> halp, I'm being patted!
[0:37] <Squarepy> ok Raynerd AbbyTheRat that explains!
[0:37] <AbbyTheRat> *fails*
[0:38] <Raynerd> start point. 0,30
[0:38] <AbbyTheRat> yep! or if we were to type it out with variables, what would that be?
[0:38] <Raynerd> 0, paddingh
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[0:38] <AbbyTheRat> yep
[0:39] <AbbyTheRat> now we the grid is a fixed size but it does some caluation
[0:39] <AbbyTheRat> so we want 3 blocks that are 30 pixels
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[0:39] <AbbyTheRat> we start at 0, paddingh
[0:40] <AbbyTheRat> (NOT TO SCALE!! >_> )
[0:41] <AbbyTheRat> how tall would the 3 blocks be in terms of pixels?
[0:41] <Raynerd> 90
[0:42] <lasers> Is there a RPI version of http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16815345015 ? :)
[0:42] <AbbyTheRat> yep, and we got a screen size of 1000, with a space on the bottom and top, of which we're using 30 for the top padding, plus 90 for the 3 blocks, plus another 30 for the bottom padding
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[0:42] <AbbyTheRat> which leave a lot of room for... nothing
[0:43] <AbbyTheRat> so we want to resize the screen size now.. what maths could we do for that (using variables)
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[0:44] <Raynerd> screensize = paddingh + (3*paddingh)
[0:44] <Raynerd> or 2*paddingh if we want a gap at the bottom
[0:44] <AbbyTheRat> we give the block size it own variable
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[0:45] <Raynerd> screensize = paddingh*2 + blockheight*3
[0:46] <AbbyTheRat> yep! Now give the number of blocks it own varabile too
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[0:46] <Raynerd> screensize = paddingh*2 + blockheight*noOfBlocks
[0:46] <AbbyTheRat> that starting to look very similar to code now
[0:46] <AbbyTheRat> to your code now*
[0:47] <AbbyTheRat> the screensize is rather the height anyway
[0:47] <AbbyTheRat> so that should be screenhight
[0:47] <AbbyTheRat> now.. do the same for the widths
[0:47] <Raynerd> yes, I see
[0:47] <AbbyTheRat> no padding
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[0:49] <AbbyTheRat> *poke Raynerd*
[0:49] <Raynerd> ???
[0:49] <Raynerd> poke - I`m wating!!! lol
[0:49] <AbbyTheRat> what's the maths would be for the screenwidth, there's no padding for the widths
[0:50] <AbbyTheRat> ?*
[0:50] <Raynerd> screenwidth = blockwidth * noOfBlocks
[0:50] <AbbyTheRat> but you already used noOfBlocks for the hight, we're only 1 blocks wide, not 3
[0:51] <Raynerd> oh
[0:51] <Raynerd> screenwidth = blockwidt
[0:51] <Raynerd> h
[0:51] <Raynerd> I didn`t know we only had 1 block in width
[0:51] <AbbyTheRat> you could do screenwidth = blockwidth * noOfBlocksWide, but I accept that for now, I think you would understand if I Was to say make it two block wide
[0:52] <Raynerd> sure
[0:52] <Raynerd> 100%
[0:52] <AbbyTheRat> :), think you understand enough what's going on with the codes now?
[0:52] <Raynerd> in none of this have we defined the 0,30 position of the block right?
[0:53] <AbbyTheRat> I think I touched on it?
[0:53] <AbbyTheRat> it would be blockstart = 0, paddingh since we know we want it to start 30 pixels down
[0:54] <Raynerd> in OUr real code!
[0:54] <Raynerd> sure sure sure...
[0:54] <AbbyTheRat> OH, yeah we have
[0:54] <Raynerd> I can`t see where that is defined in our code
[0:54] <AbbyTheRat> in the 160 range somewhere.. hold on
[0:54] <AbbyTheRat> it's a function to draw grids for you
[0:55] <AbbyTheRat> line 160, funny enough
[0:55] <Raynerd> pygame.draw.rect(screen,
[0:55] <Raynerd> color,
[0:55] <Raynerd> [(margin+width)*column+margin,
[0:55] <Raynerd> (margin+height)*row+margin+paddingh,
[0:55] <Raynerd> width,
[0:55] <Raynerd> height])
[0:55] <Raynerd> sorry!
[0:56] <AbbyTheRat> XD
[0:56] <AbbyTheRat> yes!
[0:56] <AbbyTheRat> somewhere in there, hold on, I gotta look up the function parameters
[0:56] <Raynerd> blockstart = 0, variable
[0:57] <AbbyTheRat> draw. rect - rect is the function to draw a box
[0:57] <Raynerd> AbbyTheRat - midnight here and daughter is coughing and wife has just given me an earful - gotta go bed!
[0:57] <AbbyTheRat> Ah! oki ^_^
[0:57] <Raynerd> I`m miles happier with the code now!
[0:58] <AbbyTheRat> then just do ONE thing before you go
[0:58] <Raynerd> just the postion of the grid,
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[0:58] <AbbyTheRat> change the padding to 30 instead of 60
[0:58] <Raynerd> go one
[0:58] <AbbyTheRat> cause as you now know, we're defining the padding size, not the total size of the padding
[0:58] <Raynerd> sure!
[0:58] <AbbyTheRat> reload it, and see what you get :)
[0:58] <Raynerd> OK, only bit I can`t see is where we postioon the grid, 0,30
[0:59] <Raynerd> g2g
[0:59] <Raynerd> !!!
[0:59] <AbbyTheRat> yeah, I can't either but I know it's in that bit of code.
[0:59] <AbbyTheRat> http://www.pygame.org/docs/ref/draw.html
[0:59] <AbbyTheRat> goodnight!
[0:59] <AbbyTheRat> I'm glad you're happier now :)
[0:59] <AbbyTheRat> and that you now understand how things are positioned on screen
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[1:05] <AbbyTheRat> Raynerd: is such a good student :)
[1:05] <AbbyTheRat> I'm so lucky
[1:05] <AbbyTheRat> need to give block3d a slap when I see him ^^;
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[1:13] <HoloP> hey all, my pi is connected with HDMI to a monitor, but insists on using a weird resolution of 1184x624. Why isn't it detecting the screen rez ?
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[1:17] <AbbyTheRat> no idea
[1:17] <AbbyTheRat> ShorTie: ?
[1:18] <AbbyTheRat> my brain is fried from teaching someone
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[1:40] <rikkib> Finished adding a LDR and DS18B20 to the devel board. More software to write. http://www.zlham.geek.nz/images/news/rpi-mc9s08-2.jpg
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[2:19] <rikkib> Software for the LDR works... Next some bit banging on the MC9S08 for the DS18B20 temp sensor.
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[3:32] <hephaestus_rg> hello
[3:32] <hephaestus_rg> is there a website where i can order a specifically configured rpi?
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[3:33] <hephaestus_rg> i suppose i could do it myself though, i'd just need to make sure i'm buying the right stuff
[3:35] <hephaestus_rg> is the raspberrypi a suitable replacement for a 'pc on a stick'? for my purposes, i'm comparing it against an ubuntu pc on a stick
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[7:42] <shiftplusone> ah... back online after 4 days of no internet. =)
[7:42] <shiftplusone> it was horrible
[7:43] <shiftplusone> hephaestus_rg, specially configured in what way and what do you expect from this 'pc on a stick'?
[7:43] <hephaestus_rg> something like this http://www.ebay.com/itm/MK802-Android-4-0-DDR3-1G-Mini-PC-WIFI-Google-IPTV-Smart-TV-Box-CPU-A10-1-5GHz-/151150414396?pt=US_Internet_Media_Streamers&hash=item2331444a3c
[7:44] <shiftplusone> I meant what do you plan to use it for?
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[7:54] <hephaestus_rg> i want to use it as a dumb client for an ad server
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[7:54] <hephaestus_rg> basically to show ads on a TV display
[7:54] <hephaestus_rg> presumably retrieving the ads over the net
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[7:55] <shiftplusone> yeah, certainly, the pi is just fine for that.
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[8:01] <hephaestus_rg> any reason i would want an r. pi over the mk802 (price is about the same)
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[8:01] <shiftplusone> not for what you're doing.
[8:02] <hephaestus_rg> hardware wise, would either have problems playing 720p video @ 30fps?
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[8:02] <shiftplusone> depends on the codec, but usually no.
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[8:03] <hephaestus_rg> assuming both run a similar distro, remoting/sshing in should be the same
[8:04] <shiftplusone> if that's a question, yes.
[8:05] <hephaestus_rg> would it be safe to say the raspberry pi is probably better documented?
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[8:05] <shiftplusone> I don't know much about the mk802
[8:06] <shiftplusone> but you will definitely have a larger community and better support with the pi.
[8:07] <hephaestus_rg> the only thing was that with the mk802 i could do power over usb, can i do that with a raspberry pi?
[8:09] <hephaestus_rg> but doesn't the r.pi only have 1 usb port? so if i had a wifi adaptor, i couldn't get power over usb
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[8:10] <shiftplusone> the pi is powered through microusb, but it needs a good power supply
[8:10] <shiftplusone> and the wifi adapters which work without a powered hub usually have terrible range (they're the nano ones).
[8:11] <hephaestus_rg> hmm tough cookie
[8:11] <hephaestus_rg> i suppose we could configure based on the location
[8:11] <hephaestus_rg> (advantage to raspberry pi)
[8:11] <shiftplusone> I don't know what the situation with the mk802 is, but power and usb is tricky on the pi if you don't use a powered hub with high power devices like usb sticks.
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[8:15] <hephaestus_rg> if we can get reception using the poor wifi adaptors, then we could get by on USB power, otherwise we'll use a proper power adaptor and a better wifi adaptor
[8:15] <hephaestus_rg> also it doesn't come with a clock? am i reading this correctly?
[8:16] <shiftplusone> no rtc
[8:16] <shiftplusone> ntp works just fine though
[8:16] <hephaestus_rg> can i still run cron jobs for example?
[8:16] <shiftplusone> yes, of course.
[8:16] <hephaestus_rg> good, good
[8:17] <shiftplusone> the only thing it means is that while the pi is off, the time doesn't tick... when you turn it on, before it syncs, the time will continue from where it left off when you shut down.
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[8:19] <hephaestus_rg> oh i see. as long as it has a network connection, this should not be a problem
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[8:20] <shiftplusone> even without a connection, it doesn't affect things much, other than displaying the wrong time.
[8:21] <hephaestus_rg> the gist of it is that relative time should be fine, but absolute time may desync
[8:21] <hephaestus_rg> am i reading that right
[8:21] <shiftplusone> yeah
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[8:24] <hephaestus_rg> does it do bluetooth, or will i need another dongle for that
[8:25] <hephaestus_rg> also how does it handle sudden power loss?
[8:25] <shiftplusone> no bluetooth built in
[8:25] <shiftplusone> and not very well at all
[8:25] <shiftplusone> but that's mostly due to wear levelling on the sd cards. sudden power loss may corrupt data.
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[8:26] <shiftplusone> unless you run read-only, which you absolutely should for digital signage.
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[8:27] <Demon_Jester> Hey guys, quick question, I deleted a chunk of text in a file by accident (last night was 2 am and I was tired) and I didn't notice it until just recently today, and there has been text already written over it in that file, will I be able to recover the previous chunk of text and if so, what is estimated % chance of getting it back?
[8:27] <hephaestus_rg> good point on the read only shiftplusone
[8:29] <shiftplusone> Demon_Jester, ouch. I've lost two days worth of work like that a while ago.
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[8:30] <Demon_Jester> is there any software I can use to get it back or once text has been written over in that file, it will be impossible/difficult to get it back?
[8:31] <shiftplusone> I don't think you'll be able to... it's certainly more trouble than it's worth. But if you would like to, the first things to do is to take the card out and dd it to disk. Then you can start by scanning for snippets of the missing text.
[8:31] <Demon_Jester> dd it?
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[8:32] <shiftplusone> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dd_%28Unix%29
[8:33] <hephaestus_rg> if we want to do remote updates, we can't really run it read-only
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[8:33] <shiftplusone> Jusii, are you around?
[8:34] <hephaestus_rg> do you mean to simply avoid writing to disk, or are you referring to some OS level setting that prevents writes
[8:34] <shiftplusone> hephaestus_rg, I think avoiding writing to disk should be enough
[8:34] <shiftplusone> (so disable logging or set up tmpfs mount points accordingly)
[8:35] <shiftplusone> I think Jusii uses a read-only base with a writable overlay.
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[8:39] <rikkib> Or use nfs root
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[8:42] <rikkib> Set the read only tab on the sd although that is not really necessary as nfs root is not going to write to the boot partition anyway.
[8:42] <hephaestus_rg> oh derp, now i understand the purpose of that slider
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[8:43] <shiftplusone> the read only tab on the card doesn't do anything on the pi
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[8:43] <rikkib> Didn't know that
[8:44] <shiftplusone> it's read mechanically, and since it's hanging off the board, it's not read at all.
[8:44] <hephaestus_rg> interesting note
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[8:47] <hephaestus_rg> looks like someone's tried to solve the problem i only just found http://www.screenlyapp.com/ose.html
[8:47] <rikkib> Two of the RPi here http://www.zlham.geek.nz/images/news/rpi-sys1.jpg run off nfs root and I have 3 cameras running in a business in the city doing the same with the addition of watchdog
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[8:47] <rikkib> The only drawback is the need for a linux pc to act as the nfs server.
[8:49] <rikkib> But that can have its benefits as well... The camera system uses this nfs server as a gateway to aggregate the camera streams.
[8:49] <shiftplusone> how does NFS cope with network loss?
[8:49] <shiftplusone> (if at all)
[8:49] <rikkib> Seems to pick up again
[8:50] <rikkib> even long outs
[8:50] <rikkib> watchdog catches stuff
[8:50] <rikkib> once the nfs link is established things work again
[8:50] <shiftplusone> thanks
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[8:51] <rikkib> watchdog is the key
[8:51] <rikkib> before I ran that I was forever having to get the cameras rebooted
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[9:01] <mike_t> rikkib, are you use uboot or what?
[9:01] <rikkib> Raspbian set up with nfs root
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[9:10] <rikkib> Another Chinese block (219.138.135.0/24) goes into hosts.deny
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[9:18] <Xark> rikkib: I am a big fan of "fail2ban". :)
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[9:19] <rikkib> tcpdump, portsentry and tripwire
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[9:21] <rikkib> tcpdump for manual monitoring and toss them into deny/mail/firewall depending on attack type
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[9:38] <Jusii> hephaestus_rg, shiftplusone now I am for few minutes
[9:39] <Jusii> hephaestus_rg: short, system is on read-only fs and top of it is mounted aufs/overlayfs rw filesystem
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[9:40] <Jusii> so all digital signage updates will go to rw filesystem, but in powerloss all we can lose is those image / video updates, but the system is fine
[9:40] <shiftplusone> what about remote system updates?
[9:40] <Jusii> but AFAIK, screenly isn't doing that, they trust whole system on rw
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[9:41] <Jusii> with squashfs it's easy, we have our own initramfs which is able to replace the squashfs image that holds the actual system
[9:41] <Jusii> so on system update, the sholw os image is downloaded and replaced
[9:41] <Jusii> sholw, WHOLE
[9:42] <shiftplusone> seems sensible enough
[9:42] <Jusii> it's actually similar what openelec does, you can find good info on their init
[9:43] <shiftplusone> I've done my share of digging around openelec when I was making my bootloader dual boot openelec and raspbian in the early days D=
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[9:44] <Jusii> :)
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[10:25] <ParkerR> Anybody tried out the new OpenGL implementation and Quake 3 port?
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[10:26] <steve_rox> i has not
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[10:28] <steve_rox> i saw it running some hl1 maps somewhat interesting scaleing is odd tho
[10:29] <shiftplusone> It's not really something you should be using.
[10:29] <ParkerR> What is?
[10:29] <shiftplusone> I think it just serves as a reference for a proper implementation.
[10:29] <ParkerR> Ahh
[10:29] <shiftplusone> the opengl es driver
[10:29] <shiftplusone> it's a port of the android driver, which itself is a mess.
[10:30] <shiftplusone> but it gets the pixels on the screen, so it's certainly useful to people who will do it properly.
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[10:42] <gordonDrogon> speaking of graphics, anyone know if SDL2 is faster on the Pi than the current sdl1.2? (plain old 2D stuff)
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[11:25] <duoi> hi all
[11:25] <duoi> just a quick question-- how much of a beating could a raspberry pi take as a web server?
[11:26] <gordonDrogon> quite a bit - if it was serving 1990's style web pages :)
[11:27] <shiftplusone> 'depends'
[11:27] <gordonDrogon> but get it to run lots of php/database/etc. then it's going to be somewhat "sub optimal".
[11:29] <duoi> hmm have either of you ever had experience with other ARM-bases servers? ie if I had a quadcore board with 2GB RAM, do you think it'd be able to hold its weight or is it still undesirable?
[11:30] <gordonDrogon> it's allgoing to depends on the workload. for static content all you need is good network & disks (& lots of RAM)
[11:30] * lupinedk is now known as Lupinedk
[11:30] <gordonDrogon> the first commercial web server I built had a P100 in it.
[11:31] <gordonDrogon> actually, it might have been some athlon 100Mhz chip in it.
[11:31] <gordonDrogon> but that was some 17 years ago I think.
[11:31] <gordonDrogon> times have moved on...
[11:31] <gordonDrogon> people want moar..
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[11:33] <duoi> gordonDrogon, that makes sense. How do you think it'd stand hosting something like a wordpress site?
[11:34] <shiftplusone> duoi, do you have a pi?
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[11:35] <nid0> with proper optimisations a pi will handle a wordpress site just fine
[11:36] <nid0> as long as you're not expecting thousands of hits a day
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[11:38] <duoi> shiftplusone, its in the mail :-)
[11:40] <shiftplusone> then it's best to try it and see. Because, the answer is still 'depends'. How many requests per second, how much bandwidth, which wp plugins, which web server and how it's configured.
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[11:40] <shiftplusone> It certainly works just fine with the standard LAMP stack with default settings, but you can get better performance.
[11:41] <gordonDrogon> duoi, slow. I tried it some time back with wordpress. it worked with the default theme, but anything else adds more php & more database accesses.
[11:41] <esas> I have this printer running on a 450W psu.. I was thinking of using a Raspberry Pi to control it. My idea is to connect the pi to the +5V standby of the PSU. And then control Power On with the pi, by connecting Power On to ground when I want the printer to start. Would this work?
[11:42] <gordonDrogon> duoi, make sure X isn't running or anyting els that will consume valuable RAM.
[11:42] <gordonDrogon> set the memory split to 16MB too.
[11:43] <gordonDrogon> esas, as long as the 5v standby can supply 700mA - and you use some sort of buffer electronics to short the pin to ground (if that's what it needs - an opto isolator might be fine)
[11:45] <esas> oooh, I thought the GPIO pins was operating at 5v
[11:45] <esas> thanks, I'll go order some stuff then
[11:45] <duoi> awesome, ill keep this in mind.
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[11:49] <nid0> configuration is key - if you're going the lamp route youll want php as dso with apc or similar, or as suexec of some kind with mpm worker and with a decent query cache, and a caching plugin for wp itself
[11:50] <gordonDrogon> esas, 3.3v
[11:50] <gordonDrogon> esas, and they can only safely sink or source 15mA.
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[11:52] <esas> isn't it possible to just use a transistor that controls a relay?
[11:52] <esas> I've got some of them lying around, so that would definitely be easier
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[11:52] <bosnjak> hi all
[11:52] <gordonDrogon> esas, sure.
[11:53] <bosnjak> having trouble setting a static ip for my rpi. running arch. i added a configuration to /etc/netctl and stopped the dhcpcd service. after reboot i don't get the IP i set in the configuration. is there something i am missing?
[11:53] <gordonDrogon> esas, if it's a matter of connecting the power pin to ground, you might get away with just the transistor in open collector mode.
[11:54] <gordonDrogon> since the Pi's powered off the same PSU you have a common ground anyway.
[11:55] <esas> yeah I'll try that first :)
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[12:19] <rikkib> http://www.zlham.geek.nz/images/news/rpi-relay-buffer.jpg
[12:20] <rikkib> Two co,mon types of relay modules that need a transistor buffer
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[12:25] <duoi> Ah one more question: has anybody installed an OpenVPN client on their R.Pi? If so, how is the performance?
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[13:27] <esas> Does Raspbian have ssh enabled by default? I would like to just plug-in the SD card and control over the network without having to configure it with monitor, keyboard, etc.
[13:27] <MrVector> Hmm, I'm trying out xmbc on my Pi at the moment, and it just seems a bit sluggish (playback is fine though). Normally I use the Pi for other things, so I'm looking at buying another device and setting that up as a dedicated htpc
[13:27] <esas> the forum seems down and blogs are giving me mixed information
[13:27] <MrVector> Do you guys recommend getting another Pi for it, or is there another similar device with slightly higher performance around the same price?
[13:27] <shiftplusone> ssh is enabled by default, yes.
[13:28] <shiftplusone> just don't use NOOBS
[13:28] <MrVector> esas, forums works fine for me
[13:28] <shiftplusone> where did you find information that says otherwise?
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[13:28] <shiftplusone> they're fine now, but there were too many database connections earlier.
[13:29] <esas> can't find it now, but some blog said to install ssh first.. probably dated
[13:29] <shiftplusone> esas, if all you need is an xbmc box and you can get something better than a pi in the same price range, why go for the pi?
[13:29] <pksato> MrVector: if not need gpios, have theses media player with android.
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[13:30] <shiftplusone> for me, there is nothing in the same price range and the pi is fast enough for xbmc, so I'd go with a pi. But if I was in your situation, I'd get something else.
[13:30] <MrVector> shiftplusone, I think that was to me :) I don't know, I think the price is a large part of it and I'm not sure what my options are.
[13:31] <MrVector> I've had a quick look at the rikomagic devices, but I think I'd prefer something less... commercial
[13:31] <esas> thanks for the help, shift! :)
[13:32] <shiftplusone> esas, np, sir.
[13:32] <MrVector> Any idea what options there are? I've had a quick look at stuff like Cubietruck
[13:32] <shiftplusone> I don't really know how well xbmc works on other boards. =(
[13:33] <MrVector> Ideally, I'd like an open-ish device, as I'm doing osdev on the Pi at the moment, in the future I'd like to ahve the opportunity to try my system on other devices
[13:33] <MrVector> Would be nice to already own some other devices in that case :-)
[13:34] <MrVector> shiftplusone, so ignoring how xmbc runs, what is generally considered the "one up" from the Pi?
[13:35] <shiftplusone> my information may be a little dated, but there are the odroid boards, cubieboard, mk802-type sticks, beaglebone boards and so on.
[13:35] <Twist-> MrVector: xmbc suffers from generally poor 2d video performance in X11 on the pi, due to the lack of an accelerated video driver.
[13:35] <shiftplusone> Twist-, where does X11 come in?
[13:36] <Twist-> shiftplusone: Is xbmc running directly in framebuffer these days?
[13:37] <Twist-> shiftplusone: I thought the UI was running in X
[13:37] <MrVector> The Cubieboard 3 does look very tempting..
[13:37] <shiftplusone> I am pretty sure that XBMC on the pi uses the provided libs. Maybe openvg and opengles ? I am not sure what's going on internally, but I would be very surprised if it tried to use X11 for anything.
[13:37] <shiftplusone> I should look into it so that I am not just making stuff up, brb.
[13:39] <Twist-> shiftplusone: Yeah, I appear to be wrong.
[13:39] <Twist-> At least for openelec.
[13:40] <shiftplusone> Twist-, I don't notice a difference in the UI responsiveness when running openelec and when launching it from X11 in Raspbian.
[13:40] <pksato> http://socialcompare.com/en/comparison/low-cost-arm-boards
[13:40] <Twist-> Or at least, X11 was a red herring. Crap 2d video performance is till a problem.
[13:40] <MrVector> pksato, interesting comparison, thanksf or that
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[13:41] <MrVector> Intel/amd don't really make low cost SoCs do they? Apart from Intel Galileo I haven't seen any around really
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[13:42] <PiQuestion2> Hello
[13:42] <PiQuestion2> Why does the raspberry pi destroy sd cards?
[13:42] <PiQuestion2> Am I doing something wrong?
[13:43] <shiftplusone> Are you shutting down properly or just yanking the power out?
[13:43] <shiftplusone> and what do you mean by 'destroy'?
[13:43] <PiQuestion2> This is the third card already that has become unreadable in the Pi (not just corrupt, it actually returns error to the sd block read command)
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[13:43] <PiQuestion2> AFAIK it cannot be repaired, an sd card reader cannot read or write to it (can initialize and read capacity and other info about it though)
[13:43] <shiftplusone> all same make of cards?
[13:43] <PiQuestion2> no
[13:44] <PiQuestion2> sandisk, one no name and one from kingston (last one not fully sure)
[13:44] <shiftplusone> I've seen something like that mentioned on the forum. Just a sec.
[13:44] <PiQuestion2> also on two different Pi's
[13:44] <PiQuestion2> I try no to unplug the power without shutdown, but even then I would only expect file system corruption.
[13:44] <PiQuestion2> I also mount the rootfs as read-only to reduce write wear on the cards
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[13:45] <shiftplusone> it's certainly not normal.
[13:45] <shiftplusone> I have not even had corruption, but I have no idea what you might be doing wrong.
[13:45] <pksato> PiQuestion2: used same (or same model) psu for both pis?
[13:45] <PiQuestion2> I was thinking maybe the powersupply was bad and giving spikes
[13:45] <PiQuestion2> so I replaced it
[13:46] <MrVector> I've never had any problems with corrupted or destroyed SD cards, but then I mostly run my own OS on it so might not be all that relevant...
[13:46] <PiQuestion2> but now a new card burned out
[13:46] <PiQuestion2> this one was powered from a 12->5v dc/dc converter
[13:46] <PiQuestion2> the other from a htc usb charger
[13:46] <PiQuestion2> also the sd card is behind 3.3v regulator
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[13:49] <PiQuestion2> Weird...
[13:50] <shiftplusone> I don't see a solution, but this thread is relevant. Are you getting the same errors and he is posting? http://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=63&t=66283
[13:50] <shiftplusone> If you have ruled out fake sd cards and power supplies, it may be worth contacting Gordon.
[13:51] <PiQuestion2> I don't think the sd cards are fake, I have used the same ones in other embedded boards without issue
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[13:52] <PiQuestion2> It's mostly the same type of damage to the cards yes
[13:52] <PiQuestion2> I don't reboot every minute though
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[13:53] <Werel> Good morning!
[13:53] <Werel> I don't suppose anyone is familiar with Pierre's OpenCV tutorials?
[13:55] <pksato> PiQuestion2: how long time you have this RPis?
[13:55] <PiQuestion2> The corruption usually occurs after 3 weeks of usage
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[13:55] <PiQuestion2> They are rebooted once a day on average
[13:55] <PiQuestion2> using reboot command
[13:56] <shiftplusone> I think only the foundation folks can help here.
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[13:58] <shiftplusone> Twist-, seems like xbmc uses gles for the GUI. https://github.com/xbmc/xbmc/tree/master/xbmc/rendering
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[14:01] <PiQuestion2> Ah BTW, something else about the sd cards. We have also seen some PI's that will no longer read SD cards. Normally we replace the connector, but we just discovered that it's not needed, just bend the connector pins slightly upward
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[14:02] <shiftplusone> probably more reliable to just replace the connector
[14:02] <pksato> can SD damanged by electric contact fault?
[14:03] <PiQuestion2> probably, if you disconnect the ground or so?
[14:03] <shiftplusone> and had a few pis which just wouldn't read some of my cards no matter how much I fiddled with the pins. Only replacing the connector worked =/
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[14:05] <PiQuestion2> weird that they use this unreliable connector
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[14:05] <PiQuestion2> for a device where you are intended to swap the card a lot
[14:05] <pksato> solder wires from board to SD to reduce possinility of connection fault.
[14:05] <PiQuestion2> a bit drastic lol :D
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[14:07] <pksato> but, it not damanged after 3 weeks, problem solved. :)
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[14:08] <PiQuestion2> could actually try that lol :P
[14:09] <PiQuestion2> I'm also going to measure the signals on the card
[14:09] <PiQuestion2> I have SD protocol analyser
[14:09] <pksato> and, some extra capacitors on power lines to SD.
[14:10] <PiQuestion2> in our designs we always place an inductor in series to the sd card power
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[14:10] <PiQuestion2> we found that some card draw high peak currents when hot swapped which can restart cpu
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[14:13] <gordonDrogon> Pi's SD isn't really intended to be hot swapped though, but I imagine a block erase might cause a spike or 2.
[14:15] <PiQuestion2> During the weekend I will look into it
[14:15] <PiQuestion2> It must be something stupid as I seem to be one of the only ones with this problem
[14:16] <shiftplusone> You're certainly not the only one (but it's not common either)
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[14:19] <Werel> gordonDrogon, so I got the wiringPi library to work, now it's just down to my own inefficiencies of code to get it to send the right data. ;)
[14:20] <Werel> to work* with cmake
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[14:24] <gordonDrogon> Werel, good luck :)
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[14:29] <fullcontact> my pictures taken with motion (dozencrow's, rspy cam) are inverted, does anyone know why? and how can i fix it
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[14:36] <pksato> fullcontact: rotate camera. :)
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[14:37] <fullcontact> i mounted it with this: http://audvidcom2.funpic.de/ebaypics/kameramou-1373498031-13190.jpg so i wonder
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[14:38] <fullcontact> pksato
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[14:40] <pksato> raspistill get image on correct orientation?
[14:41] <pksato> or have a inverted colors?
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[14:42] <fullcontact> wait i have to reboot rsp
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[14:44] <fullcontact> woth raspistill inverted
[14:44] <fullcontact> i
[14:47] <fullcontact> picture is inverted, colors are normal
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[15:54] <Davespice> afternoon
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[15:54] <IT_Sean> aftermorning
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[17:20] <Jeroi> hello
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[17:22] <Jeroi> hello
[17:23] <shiftplusone> hello again
[17:23] <Jeroi> I need to handle usb port with php
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[17:23] <Jeroi> dmsg says that arduino is on ttyACM0
[17:23] <Jeroi> but
[17:23] <Jeroi> php_serial.class.php says not valid port
[17:24] <Jeroi> I have read countles tutorials that all says exactly the same code that my debug code
[17:24] <Jeroi> yet
[17:24] <Jeroi> I get many error because portsetting was not valid
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[17:25] <Jeroi> I have installed apache2, php, perl
[17:25] <Jeroi> I have written some apche overides for www-data
[17:25] <Jeroi> and made sudoer
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[17:26] <Jeroi> it seems that I am unable still to talk with usb
[17:29] <Jeroi> Is there any good tutorial that apsolutely handles php serial communication trhue debian usb?
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[17:32] <Jeroi> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/10373308/php-serial-communication-in-linux
[17:32] <Jeroi> this might have some to doing with it
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[17:34] <Jeroi> I guess it can't validatae ttyACM0
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[18:08] <FR^2> Jeroi: Simple access restriction to the device?
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[18:09] <Jeroi> ?
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[18:11] <FR^2> Jeroi: ls -al /dev/tty... shows you the owner and the group of that handle, and wether others can access that device. And then check which user executed the php script.
[18:11] <Jeroi> crw-rw-rw- 1 root root 5, 0 Jan 1 1970 /dev/tty
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[18:12] <Jeroi> so I need to add pi, www-data ?
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[18:12] <Jeroi> user is www-data with php
[18:14] <Jeroi> how to do this?
[18:14] <FR^2> hmm. since others have read and write access rights... crw-rw-RW- means "anyone" can read and write to that device. It was just an idea that this could be the issue, but that should just
[18:14] <FR^2> work
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[18:15] <Jeroi> Yah I did some chown command to that
[18:15] <Jeroi> or chmod
[18:15] <Jeroi> I tried to edit the class now
[18:16] <FR^2> Yes, could be that that specific php class assumes /dev/ttyS* as a filename
[18:16] <Jeroi> yeah
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[18:17] <Jeroi> so
[18:17] <Jeroi> else if preg_match("@^COM(\d+):?$@i", $device, $matches)) {
[18:17] <Jeroi> $device = "/dev/ttyACM" . ($matches[1] - 1);
[18:17] <Jeroi> }
[18:17] <Jeroi> I added that
[18:17] <Jeroi> not helping tho
[18:17] <Jeroi> still saying not valid
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[18:18] <FR^2> can you no-paste that php class file?
[18:18] <Jeroi> yeah
[18:19] <Jeroi> http://pastebin.com/9Uijsnh1
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[18:22] <FR^2> I'm totally unsure about this, but for testing purposes, remove lines 101 to 106 ;)
[18:23] <FR^2> (comment them out)
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[18:24] <FR^2> Any maybe put some silly debugging output lines inside that code
[18:24] <FR^2> Sorry that I can only give you such trivial hints without really knowing what to do :)
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[18:27] <AbbyTheRat> Weeeee, I spotted this - http://makezine.com/2012/12/10/raspberry-pi-as-an-fm-transmitter/ there's a few uses for it!
[18:28] <shiftplusone> It gets spotted every few days
[18:28] <AbbyTheRat> One being, for in car if the radio don't have an aux output, you could use it so you could still bring a huge playlist for those long trips
[18:29] <AbbyTheRat> and as a bonus, add a GPS function to your car if you want to
[18:29] <shiftplusone> keep in mind it's illegal and spews all over the spectrum.
[18:29] <AbbyTheRat> Hmm, that's a good point, have to check the Canadian broadcast laws
[18:30] <AbbyTheRat> there's already products that works exactly as I suggested.
[18:30] <AbbyTheRat> So there maybe a loophole to allow that
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[18:31] <shiftplusone> are you talking about the consumer fm transmitters?
[18:31] <SpeedEvil> AbbyTheRat: no, there aren't.
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[18:31] <SpeedEvil> AbbyTheRat: the commercial ones (legal) are about 50 nanowatts (billionths of a watt)
[18:32] <Jeroi> FR^R^
[18:32] <Jeroi> ?
[18:32] <SpeedEvil> The Pi - in addition to spraying crap all over air and marine safety bands - is millions of times stronger.
[18:32] <shiftplusone> properly attenuated, filtered and with relevant certification.
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[18:32] <Jeroi> device name is Linux raspberrypi 3.10.25+ #622 PREEMPT Fri Jan 3 18:41:00 GMT 2014 armv6l
[18:32] <SpeedEvil> If you can hear without noise a FM transmitter at more than 10m, it's not legal.
[18:33] <SpeedEvil> (as an exempt low-power transmitter)
[18:33] <AbbyTheRat> Ah, so the power from the pi will have to be toned down before being used?
[18:33] <Jeroi> so it should work
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[18:33] <Jeroi> substrin 0 -5 = "Linux"
[18:33] <Jeroi> so that works
[18:34] <shiftplusone> AbbyTheRat, and you'd need a filter.
[18:34] <shiftplusone> Or is it legal to spew in the emergency spectrum if it's low power?
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[18:35] <AbbyTheRat> I think it's better to assume it isn't and build a filter as well
[18:35] <SpeedEvil> At that point, you're better of just getting a proper one.
[18:35] <AbbyTheRat> one that is controllable and restricted to the safe bands.
[18:35] <shiftplusone> and keep in mind the sound quality isn't the best either
[18:35] <AbbyTheRat> mhm
[18:35] <AbbyTheRat> I'm not planning on doing it anyway. It was just an idea x_x;
[18:35] <shiftplusone> so.... just buy an fm transmitter and plug it into the pi. It will work better, and cost less.
[18:36] <shiftplusone> Well, crushing peoples' dreams is what we're here for.
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[18:36] <ShorTie> ordered me a 5" HD 800*480 TFT LCD Monitor .. :)~
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[18:36] <AbbyTheRat> pfff, wasn't a dream of mine
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[18:36] <AbbyTheRat> my dream is the alarm clock I'm working on
[18:36] <shiftplusone> sour grapes
[18:37] <AbbyTheRat> ShorTie: No!
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[18:37] <ShorTie> ya, 29 bucks
[18:37] <ShorTie> see how different it is from this 4.3"
[18:37] * IT_Sean makes a few edits to the plans to AbbyTheRat's alarm clock to include small explosive devices
[18:38] <IT_Sean> ShorTie: it'll be about .7" different.
[18:38] * ShorTie snickers
[18:38] <ShorTie> true, but it high resolution
[18:38] <IT_Sean> 880*480 is high resolution?
[18:39] <IT_Sean> err *00 rather
[18:39] <IT_Sean> dammit
[18:39] <IT_Sean> 800
[18:39] * AbbyTheRat doesn't have any plans on file so IT_Sean edit doesn't show up
[18:39] <ShorTie> Yuppers ... :)
[18:39] * IT_Sean swears
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[18:40] * shiftplusone pretends to be afk.
[18:40] * IT_Sean complains to shiftplusone about AbbyTheRat's complaining
[18:41] <shiftplusone> > /dev/null
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[19:02] <IT_Sean> I do NOT have a hate for rats, AbbyTheRat
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[19:02] <AbbyTheRat> but you keep trying with traps and baits and *Sniff sniff* you wanted me to include dangerous explosive *sniff*
[19:02] <AbbyTheRat> *tear*
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[19:09] <IT_Sean> They are all humane, no-kill traps, though!
[19:10] <IT_Sean> and they were only SMALL explosives!
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[22:09] <AbbyTheRat> hmm
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[22:15] <rikkib> I smell a rat.
[22:15] * AbbyTheRat sniff herself
[22:15] <AbbyTheRat> no.. not from me
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[22:20] <rikkib> Cold and foggy this morning.
[22:20] <IT_Sean> Lovely here
[22:20] <IT_Sean> 81F and PC
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