#raspberrypi IRC Log

Index

IRC Log for 2014-04-05

Timestamps are in GMT/BST.

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[2:55] <c0be> o/, having trouble with spi. i have the spi_bcm2708 and spidev modules loaded, but no spi devices listed in /dev
[2:55] <c0be> anyone encounter this beofre?
[2:55] <c0be> [f before o]
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[3:07] <clever> c0be: i got spidev0.0 and 0.1 after loading only spi_bcm2708
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[3:08] <clever> and i cant find an spidev module in my module list
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[3:13] <c0be> clever: what linux version are you using? i've got v3.8.13 here
[3:13] <clever> 3.10.34+
[3:17] <c0be> tried not loading spidev, same result. maybe a bug in 3.8?
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[3:29] <clever> c0be: try rpi-update
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[5:11] <somedude> how well does freebsd work on the pi
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[9:57] <isasha> Hey, I'm looking to run a browser on top of a gstreamer stream
[9:58] <isasha> however, the key is that there are no borders/elements on the browser
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[9:58] <isasha> also lightdm isn't running either so if that could be kept that way, it would be cool
[9:58] <isasha> any ideas?
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[12:57] <fullcontact> motion is configured as a deamon, but wput (upload new pictures to my ftp server) doesnt work when i close the terminal (On_picture_save wput –B ftp://user.name:password@ispserver %f), but it works fine running motion without closing window. could anyone help, it should be a little problem
[13:01] <ShorTie> might try #motion
[13:02] <fullcontact> okay
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[13:03] <ShorTie> maybe you need to leave the terminal window open, like start it in a screen sesion maybe
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[13:04] <fullcontact> yeah, screen could i try
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[13:40] <retrosenator> are there any plans to make the raspberry cheaper? maybe a raspberry bone or something for $15 or less?
[13:40] <shiftplusone> none that have been announced
[13:40] <mortal> what about making it more expensive
[13:41] <shiftplusone> none that have been announced
[13:41] <mortal> I want an octacore arm with 4 gigs of ram
[13:41] <retrosenator> plenty of those
[13:41] <retrosenator> hey another question.. can I use the screen from my broken laptop with the raspberry?
[13:42] <shiftplusone> retrosenator, if you can find a way to convert it to HDMI. I've seen someone use an adapter that did that for their laptop screen, but it's not likely.
[13:43] <retrosenator> I think it's lvds? it's a thinkpad t61p
[13:43] <retrosenator> I have a dual core arm with 2 gigs ram
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[13:44] <retrosenator> mortal: I think there are plans to start making octacores.. but 4 cores are fast and 4 are slow and low power
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[13:47] <pksato> more cheap? remove all connectors and replace by solder pads, on 'randon' position, cut pcb my half or more. :)
[13:48] <retrosenator> the usb hub could be removed
[13:48] <retrosenator> as well as all the connectors, yes
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[14:14] <Jeroi> FR^2: Yes the commenting out seemed to work. Atleast debug script works now without errors but I don't know how to read serial line in order to test the debug code
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[14:14] <CEOofBitcoin> Hey all
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[14:14] <Jeroi> the problem is that the serial class don't accept ACM0 as a device name
[14:14] <CEOofBitcoin> Anyone knows how to newbie-friendly setup a vpn connection on my raspberry pi (raspbian)
[14:14] <Jeroi> we should add fix for that
[14:15] <FR^2> Jeroi: to be honest, I find the idea of accessing a serial interface from php from within a webserver very creepy :D
[14:15] <CEOofBitcoin> I need a VPN connection which I can connect to with the click of some shortcut or something.
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[14:16] <CEOofBitcoin> I have my VPN service, but I have no idea how to set it up on my Raspbian as a newbie. Anyone here that has a minute or two to help?
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[14:20] <CEOofBitcoin> Anyone?
[14:22] <FR^2> how could anyone answer to a question that just phrases "i have a problem setting up vpn"?
[14:22] <CEOofBitcoin> I am just asking how to use a vpn service with raspbian the easiest way. Thats all.
[14:23] <CEOofBitcoin> Familiar with this on OS X with Tunnelblick but not on Raspbian.
[14:24] <FR^2> maybe you've got more success on #raspbian, but be as specific as possible, otherwise you won't even get any reaction at all.
[14:25] <CEOofBitcoin> Oh, tried joining that channel but it was empty. Guess I had a typo there
[14:26] <FR^2> It's a bit silent there - might be the wrong time, too :)
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[14:36] <CEOofBitcoin> Does Tails work on a Raspberry Pi too?
[14:36] <CEOofBitcoin> (with boot via SD Card)
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[14:37] <FR^2> I have no idea what "Tails" is
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[14:46] <pksato> Tails requires an x86 compatible processor: IBM PC compatible and others but not PowerPC nor ARM.
[14:47] <pksato> from Tails site
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[14:50] <SpeedEvil> qemu to the rescue!
[14:51] <SpeedEvil> No especial reason why you can't build an arm version
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[14:54] <shiftplusone> is it just a debian livecd with tor pre-installed?
[14:54] <shiftplusone> seems like it has truecrypt and keepass too.
[14:55] <shiftplusone> and a few other things you can apt-get in Raspbian. =/
[14:56] <pksato> Onion Pi?
[14:56] <shiftplusone> So if you want to build an alternative based on raspbian, https://tails.boum.org/doc/about/features/index.en.html seems like a starting point.
[14:57] <shiftplusone> and https://tails.boum.org/contribute/index.en.html
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[16:53] <xmatthias> anyone here that has experience using a pcd8644 with the pi?
[16:54] <xmatthias> pcd8544*
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[16:56] <shiftplusone> is that the 'nokia knockoff' ?
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[16:57] <xmatthias> yep
[16:57] <xmatthias> extracted from a old 3410
[16:58] <xmatthias> got it conneced.. but no matter what - maximum i got was 2 lines with points about in the middle of the display
[16:58] <shiftplusone> looks like the board I used had a different controller, but it shouldn't be too different. I've played around with many different similar displays
[16:59] <shiftplusone> are you writing your own library to drive it?
[16:59] <xmatthias> no, for now, i'm using https://github.com/rm-hull/pcd8544
[16:59] <xmatthias> i also tried a few others... but so far it doesn't work
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[16:59] <xmatthias> once i have the samples working, i may start with my own library
[17:00] <shiftplusone> ah, that's not the display I was thinking of at all.
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[17:00] <xmatthias> well, mine doesn't have the circuit-board below
[17:00] <xmatthias> but the controller is supposed to be the same
[17:01] <shiftplusone> What happens though? "2 lines with points about in the middle of the display" doesn't parse too well in my brain.
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[17:03] <xmatthias> well, difficult to describe
[17:03] <xmatthias> it's just a few pixels that are turned on
[17:03] <xmatthias> always 2 above each other (about 1cm apart)
[17:03] <xmatthias> depending on the sample i use the positions and ammount varry
[17:04] <shiftplusone> hm
[17:05] <shiftplusone> well I have no idea, but hopefully someone will jump in.
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[17:13] <xmatthias> no problem, i hope so, too
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[17:36] <PiQuestion2> I may have found the reason for my sd cards corrupting. When rebooting the pi does some final writes to it
[17:36] <PiQuestion2> and directly after the videocore bootloader reinits the card
[17:36] <PiQuestion2> if the card is doing wear levelling at that time when reinited it gets corrupt, or the sandisk ones simply break
[17:37] <shiftplusone> If you're 100% sure that makes sense, open an issue on github.
[17:37] <PiQuestion2> Not fully
[17:37] <PiQuestion2> I have to test further
[17:37] <PiQuestion2> but it's a possibility
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[18:10] <ShadowJK> Powercycling card in middle of write is bad idea :)
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[18:16] <SpeedEvil> I don't think the pi can power cycle the card.
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[18:18] <PiQuestion2> no it cannot
[18:18] <PiQuestion2> it is directly connected to 3.3v
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[18:26] <daedeloth> I'm not entirely sure what the 5v power connector is in the gpio, can someone help me out there?
[18:27] <ShorTie> pin 2 i believe
[18:27] <daedeloth> pin 2 and pin 4
[18:28] <daedeloth> but I am doing something illegal I think
[18:28] <daedeloth> I'm connecting that to the motor driver to a general gpio pin
[18:28] <shiftplusone> For future reference, http://elinux.org/RPi_Low-level_peripherals
[18:28] <ShorTie> they say grd is pin 6, but i think pin 4 works too...
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[18:29] <Blurb> Hi
[18:29] <daedeloth> there's a couple of grounds :)
[18:29] <shiftplusone> daedeloth, I am not sure what you mean, but it does sound like you'll release some smoke.
[18:29] <daedeloth> but what I'm wondering, is what I am doing illegal?
[18:29] <daedeloth> because it kindof justs works right now... :p
[18:29] <Blurb> Can someone help me with 'omxplayer' ?
[18:30] <daedeloth> so the proper way to send signals is to use a gpio pin + the 3v3 power line?
[18:31] <shiftplusone> it depends on what you're doing
[18:32] <shiftplusone> I am not sure "use a gpio pin + the 3v3 power line to send a signal" really means anything, since it's unknown what signal or what the 3.3v line is used for.
[18:32] <daedeloth> it's a stepper motor
[18:32] <daedeloth> http://stappenmotor.nl/Datasheets/microstapdrivers%20info/MSD-50-5.6.htm
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[18:33] <ShorTie> your not trying to power that from the pi are you ??
[18:33] <PiQuestion2> just connect gpio to the control inputs of the motordriver
[18:33] <PiQuestion2> and also the ground from the pi to the motordriver
[18:33] <daedeloth> I'm not powering it
[18:33] <daedeloth> I'm just sending signals
[18:34] <shiftplusone> there's not enough information there.
[18:34] <daedeloth> hm, the ground? not the v5 line?
[18:34] <daedeloth> *5v
[18:34] <PiQuestion2> no the ground
[18:34] <daedeloth> http://stappenmotor.nl/Datasheets/microstapdrivers%20info/MSD-50-5.pdf
[18:34] <PiQuestion2> just connect all Dir-, Ena- lines together
[18:34] <PiQuestion2> and to the ground of the pi
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[18:34] <daedeloth> hm, right now it's connected to the 5v line...
[18:34] <PiQuestion2> connect Dir+ to gpio etc
[18:34] <daedeloth> so... I should have destroyed something?
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[18:35] <PiQuestion2> the inputs are optocouplers
[18:35] <PiQuestion2> so you may also connect the + input to 3.3v and the gpio to the negative side
[18:35] <PiQuestion2> it will then work reversed, but still work
[18:35] <PiQuestion2> 5v is not good I think
[18:35] <PiQuestion2> the input will still read active as 5v-3.3v=1.7v which is enough to turn on the optocoupler
[18:35] <shiftplusone> Looks like it expects 5v logic rather than 3.3v
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[18:35] <daedeloth> hm, so, wait, a gpio can also send current? I thought it was just switching the 3V3
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[18:36] <pksato> opto-isolated control lines.
[18:36] <PiQuestion2> they can source and sink
[18:36] <PiQuestion2> but i'm not sure if they can deliver enough current for this driver
[18:36] <daedeloth> how do they know what to do?
[18:36] <PiQuestion2> it seems to need 7-16mA
[18:36] <PiQuestion2> you program it that way
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[18:37] <shiftplusone> 16mA is the maximum you should draw from a GPIO pin, so it's within specs.
[18:37] <PiQuestion2> yes, but it's more than one
[18:37] <PiQuestion2> most chips also have a total limit, do you know what that is?
[18:37] <shiftplusone> to a maximum of 50mA
[18:37] <daedeloth> 2 seperate gpios
[18:37] <PiQuestion2> is 16*3 allows
[18:37] <PiQuestion2> ah ok
[18:37] <daedeloth> ah, ok, nice, so it is possible.
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[18:37] <daedeloth> but I was going to connect two of those... and eventually 4.
[18:38] <PiQuestion2> you can add a buffer in between
[18:38] <PiQuestion2> so you do not load the gpio
[18:38] <PiQuestion2> for example 74HC244
[18:39] <PiQuestion2> it has 8 lines, so you can connect 4 drivers
[18:39] <daedeloth> so, I can buy that thing somewhere? :p
[18:39] <daedeloth> alright, I have no knowledge of electronics *at all* apparently. :)
[18:39] <PiQuestion2> farnell for example
[18:39] <PiQuestion2> or digikey
[18:39] <PiQuestion2> afk
[18:40] <shiftplusone> whatever your local version of farnell is
[18:40] <shiftplusone> digikey charge a kidney for shipping outside of US
[18:40] <PiQuestion2> check that the buffer chip can source enough current, otherwise you need more than one
[18:40] <daedeloth> it looks like a spider.
[18:40] <daedeloth> (ok, that was very silly talk. I am still a bit afraid of chips.)
[18:41] <shiftplusone> heh
[18:41] <daedeloth> (that's a chip, right? I'm using the right terms?)
[18:41] <shiftplusone> yes sir
[18:42] <pksato> buy some interface module.
[18:42] <daedeloth> so with that 74HC244 thing I can send 5v power to the driver
[18:43] <Blurb> Can someone help me with 'omxplayer' ? The newest version supports seamless playing. can some1 help me with that?
[18:45] <daedeloth> so right now I'm sending 5v from the 5v connector and sinking it into a gpio
[18:45] <shiftplusone> that's just terrible all around
[18:45] <daedeloth> ok
[18:45] <daedeloth> so I'm going to switch that to grd and make the gpio send the 3.3v?
[18:46] <daedeloth> actually the gpio is set to output, so I kindof think I'm sending 5v + 3.3v... which is not possible.
[18:46] <daedeloth> why does it work?! :p
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[18:46] <shiftplusone> that's... not how it works.
[18:46] <shiftplusone> (I am trying to figure out where to begin)
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[18:47] <daedeloth> hehe, yea, I understand
[18:47] <pksato> why some times simple thing goes complex. :)
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[18:47] <daedeloth> so the gpio with output set to true is giving +3.3v?
[18:47] <shiftplusone> yes
[18:47] <daedeloth> and the 5v is always giving 5v
[18:47] <shiftplusone> exactly
[18:48] <daedeloth> there is no reason whatsover that this motor is working now?
[18:48] <[SLB]> poor occam is turning in the casket :\
[18:48] <shiftplusone> and the gpio pins are capable of providing or sinking current.
[18:48] <pksato> daedeloth: to use motor control board, power it from separate power supply.
[18:48] <daedeloth> yea but I think they are set to providing current
[18:49] <daedeloth> yea, I think I better do that. buy one of those 74hc244 things.
[18:49] <shiftplusone> in output mode they can do both
[18:49] <ShorTie> voltage does not make things work, current does
[18:49] <shiftplusone> I don't think you can point to current as the thing that makes things work.... V=IR, it's all connected.
[18:49] <daedeloth> so the 5v is flowing to the 3.3v gpio, essentially frying the gpio module...
[18:49] <pksato> join all - input and connect do GND pin of RPi. and + to output pins.
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[18:50] <daedeloth> ok, I'm going to check if I can make the controller work at 3.3v
[18:50] <daedeloth> so connecting the ground instead of the 5v
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[18:51] <pksato> dont need to connect +5V (pins 2, 4) or 3v3 (pin 1) to motor module.
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[18:51] <daedeloth> indeed
[18:51] <daedeloth> just gpio + ground
[18:52] <InfiniteBite> Hi guys, is there a transistor that has 7v out and 3v on base?
[18:52] <pksato> DONT, power motors from header 5V.
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[18:52] <pksato> or any other device that draw more that 50mA (to safe).
[18:52] <pksato> InfiniteBite: that?
[18:54] <shiftplusone> *what?
[18:55] <InfiniteBite> @pksato I need a transistor to control a motor. The motor runs on 7v, i want to control the transistor with a GPIO pin. Is there a transistor that i can use?
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[18:55] <pksato> InfiniteBite: you need a power source of 7V.
[18:55] <daedeloth> hm. now it's not working anymore.
[18:55] <daedeloth> I think I was siking the 5v in the gpio.
[18:56] <InfiniteBite> @pksato Yes, i have a 7v battery, i just want to switch the motor on and off.
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[18:56] <pksato> and, power mosfet or bipolar power transistor (N or P).
[18:57] <pksato> bipolar need a limiter resistor on base.
[18:57] <Encrypt> InfiniteBite, Any transistor will work then
[18:57] <ShorTie> but you gotta look at the current
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[18:57] <ShorTie> can't say that Encrypt without knowing current
[18:57] <Encrypt> You may also use an optocoupler
[18:58] <Encrypt> ShorTie, Yes, right
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[18:58] <daedeloth> GPIO.setup(12,GPIO.OUT)
[18:58] <pksato> optocoupler not really necessary. if know what doing.
[18:58] <daedeloth> this means that the pin will be used as an output, right? does this have something to do with sink or power?
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[19:03] <daedeloth> ah, nice, so I can use the v5 line for powering the 74HC244
[19:03] <daedeloth> well, "powering".
[19:06] <daedeloth> hm there is one thing I don't understand
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[19:07] <daedeloth> if the gpio can provide 16mA, the current setup should technically work, even though it's just 3.3v?
[19:08] <PiQuestion2> yeah, it should
[19:08] <PiQuestion2> but you cannot connect 4 controllers
[19:08] <daedeloth> yea but right now only one is connected
[19:08] <shiftplusone> I am not sure I know what your current setup is, but it sounds like you're applying 5v to the 3.3v pin
[19:08] <daedeloth> nono, I changed it
[19:08] <shiftplusone> as in earlier
[19:09] <pksato> if some time applyed 5V to 3v3, RPi is dead.
[19:09] <daedeloth> but the specs for the driver say it is expecting 5v
[19:09] <shiftplusone> I mean 3.3v gpio pin, not the 3.3v line, pksato
[19:09] <daedeloth> pksato, well, that's the strange thing. It's still going :)
[19:09] <shiftplusone> won't kill the pi instantly, but it's certainly going to damage it soon enough.
[19:09] <pksato> pin dead.
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[19:10] <daedeloth> but then why did it work?
[19:10] <daedeloth> also, I'm not sure if the controller is not sinking the current itself?
[19:10] <PiQuestion2> pksato: we once connected 5v signal to pi input
[19:10] <daedeloth> (is that possible?)
[19:10] <PiQuestion2> It didn't damage it
[19:10] <shiftplusone> daedeloth, yes, it's possible.
[19:10] <shiftplusone> PiQuestion2, it won't damage it instantly or in obvious ways.
[19:10] <pksato> motor modules, from pdf, have a optocouples, and 270Ohms resistor. It is fine to use direct on 3v3 GPIOs of RPi.
[19:10] <PiQuestion2> probably stresses the oxide in the input mosfets and the esd protection diodes, but in 30minutes it didn't kill it
[19:11] <PiQuestion2> So probably you didn't break anything...
[19:11] <daedeloth> hm, it has a little black triangle thing. So I guess it doesn't sink the current.
[19:11] <shiftplusone> exactly
[19:11] <PiQuestion2> Don't keep doing it though
[19:11] <daedeloth> ok
[19:11] <daedeloth> but I'm wondering why it doesn't work now
[19:11] <daedeloth> so gpio is connected to PUL+
[19:11] <daedeloth> and grnd is connected to PUL-
[19:11] <PiQuestion2> what program you use
[19:11] <daedeloth> and I set output for gpio to TRUE
[19:12] <PiQuestion2> maybe 3.3v is too little for the driver...
[19:12] <daedeloth> python with gpio
[19:12] <daedeloth> yea, that's what I'm wondering myself
[19:12] <PiQuestion2> I expected that it would work...
[19:12] <daedeloth> so, I should buy one of those 74HC244's
[19:12] <shiftplusone> HCT
[19:13] <daedeloth> (what's that?)
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[19:13] <shiftplusone> I think... I forget... lemme check the datasheet
[19:13] <pksato> daedeloth: module have status/activity leds?
[19:13] <daedeloth> no it just has a nice green led that does'tn change at all
[19:14] <daedeloth> is there a version of 74HC244 that just has one input and x outputs?
[19:14] <pksato> and, send enable signal?
[19:14] <daedeloth> enable isn't connected so I'm guessing it's always enabled
[19:15] <PiQuestion2> probably it's always disabled now
[19:15] <pksato> if dont have switch on board to enable, need to use enable control.
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[19:15] <PiQuestion2> easy to check, connect 5v to ENA+ and gnd to ENA-
[19:16] <PiQuestion2> that will enable it for sure
[19:16] <daedeloth> but what I don't understand: http://stappenmotor.nl/Datasheets/microstapdrivers%20info/MSD-50-5.pdf
[19:16] <daedeloth> there it's connected to an LPT
[19:16] <daedeloth> and the 5V is provided externally and sank into the GPIOs?
[19:16] <shiftplusone> daedeloth, there's the 74HC244 and the 74HCT244. If you're using it to get a 5v logic output signal from the pi's 3.3v signal, you want the HCT version.
[19:17] <shiftplusone> It has been a while since I've played with all of that and it is 3AM, so I am not 100% sure on this.
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[19:18] <pksato> enable is in fact, disable control.
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[19:18] <pksato> not need to use.
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[19:19] <Raynerd> evening all
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[19:19] <Raynerd> AbbyTheRat - thanks for the code you pasted
[19:20] <AbbyTheRat> Raynerd: :)
[19:20] <AbbyTheRat> how was it?
[19:20] <Raynerd> :-(
[19:20] <shiftplusone> Hello Sir Raynerd.
[19:20] <Raynerd> promoted to Sir, I`ll come more often!
[19:21] <shiftplusone> Sure? Next time, it's Madame.
[19:21] * ShorTie snickers
[19:21] <Raynerd> Hows things?
[19:21] <pksato> daedeloth: dont flow pdf example.
[19:21] <daedeloth> shiftplusone, I'm trying to understand the differecne between th hc and hct
[19:22] <daedeloth> pksato, enable signal didn't help, I think the controller just doesn't act on 3v
[19:22] <Raynerd> AbbytheRat - the padding is still not even :-\
[19:22] <pksato> daedeloth: you have a multimeter?
[19:22] <shiftplusone> daedeloth, CMOS vs TTL. It's a bit tricky to explain.
[19:22] <Raynerd> and for some reason, the game function has died
[19:22] <daedeloth> pksato, yes
[19:22] <shiftplusone> daedeloth, have you opened the nxp datasheet for the chip?
[19:23] <daedeloth> yea
[19:23] <shiftplusone> http://www.nxp.com/documents/data_sheet/74AHC_AHCT244.pdf
[19:23] <shiftplusone> it has specs for the two versions
[19:23] <rikkib> Hmmm 5:22 am, back to bed.
[19:23] <pksato> daedeloth: to this application HC and HTC dont have diferences.
[19:23] <shiftplusone> pksato, kind of do if he wants to step it up to 5v.
[19:24] <Raynerd> I have a question about building a clock timer - I want to build one but dont know if the chip on the raspberryPi will be fast enough.
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[19:24] <pksato> need to chech VH and VLow
[19:25] <Raynerd> I thought about it with an arduino a few years back but went off the idea and can`t remember why - I`m sure I decided the chip couldnt handle it
[19:25] <PiQuestion2> How quickly should it work?
[19:25] <shiftplusone> pksato, at 5V VCC, the HC version's minimum V_IH is just under 3.85V.
[19:25] <AbbyTheRat> Raynerd: by how much?
[19:25] <daedeloth> I'm lost again.
[19:25] <Raynerd> AbbyTheRat - significant
[19:25] <daedeloth> ok, I need the hct
[19:25] <pksato> CMOS level, transistion is near 1/2VCC. TTL 2.5V.
[19:25] <shiftplusone> 2V for the TLL version.
[19:26] <Raynerd> PiQuestion2 - was that to me?
[19:26] <PiQuestion2> yes
[19:26] <PiQuestion2> What times are you talking about for the timer
[19:26] <daedeloth> and it's basically 8 relays.
[19:26] <daedeloth> ok, I understand.
[19:26] <Raynerd> It would have to time the rate of my pendulum swinging - capture, store and average out.
[19:26] <shiftplusone> pksato, take a look at table 9 http://www.nxp.com/documents/data_sheet/74AHC_AHCT244.pdf
[19:26] <Raynerd> ideally, "listen" the tick tock and measure that
[19:27] <PiQuestion2> So you are talking about 100ms-5s timescales?
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[19:27] <AbbyTheRat> hmm? can I see what codes you have right now?
[19:27] <PiQuestion2> the arduino can easily do that
[19:27] <daedeloth> is there like a basic set of these things that I could buy, with some leds and a breadboard etc?
[19:27] <AbbyTheRat> and where do you have the most space, top or bottom?
[19:27] <daedeloth> also, should I buy an arduino?
[19:27] <pksato> yes. HC need more that 3v3.
[19:28] <Raynerd> PiQuestion2 - this was my question on arduino a few years back http://forum.arduino.cc/index.php?topic=71116.0;wap2
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[19:29] <PiQuestion2> The arduino also is massively obsolete at this time
[19:29] <PiQuestion2> 25$ for AVR controller...
[19:29] <shiftplusone> *for the official one
[19:29] <PiQuestion2> You can now get development boards with 168MHz arm, floating point and much more for 20$
[19:29] <shiftplusone> you can get much cheaper 'arduinos'
[19:29] <PiQuestion2> for example http://be.farnell.com//t/dp/2009276
[19:29] <shiftplusone> I have 4 of the borderless electronics ones, which were ridiculously cheap.
[19:30] <shiftplusone> I do love the STM F4 boards though
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[19:30] <daedeloth> should I actually be controlling motor drivers with raspberry pi? or does it make much more sense to do it with one of those things?
[19:30] <shiftplusone> though there is a lot of learning to do to use them properly
[19:31] <daedeloth> (connected to a pi, because I need the networking)
[19:31] <PiQuestion2> As long as you can live with somewhat unsteady rotation it should be fine with the pi I think
[19:31] <shiftplusone> daedeloth, it's fine. I haven't used steppers, so I don't know what sort of timing they require, but I suspect it's just fine.
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[19:31] <PiQuestion2> they need periodic pulses
[19:32] <daedeloth> 1.4�s min
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[19:32] <PiQuestion2> if you get scheduled out you will miss some
[19:32] <PiQuestion2> causing the stepper to not rotate
[19:32] <Raynerd> deadeloth - it is easier to control them with a stepper controller.
[19:32] <Raynerd> And run the controller from the pi
[19:32] <shiftplusone> and steppers only go 180 degrees, is that right?
[19:32] <Raynerd> no
[19:32] <PiQuestion2> no
[19:32] <daedeloth> Raynerd, but that's what I have now, right? I send pulses?
[19:32] <shiftplusone> 360?
[19:32] <pksato> free run
[19:33] <PiQuestion2> some have mechanical stops but most can go continuous rotation
[19:33] <Raynerd> they can move all 360
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[19:33] <shiftplusone> and keep going past 360?
[19:33] <Raynerd> freely and continuous if you ask them to
[19:33] <Raynerd> yes
[19:33] <daedeloth> yea, it just rotates
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[19:33] <daedeloth> ah, but I need to constantly send pulses to the driver to make it go
[19:33] <shiftplusone> gordonDrogon, >=/
[19:33] <Raynerd> yes
[19:33] <PiQuestion2> yes
[19:33] <daedeloth> one pulse = one step (= 1.8 degrees or something)
[19:33] <Raynerd> yes
[19:33] <PiQuestion2> one pulse per step
[19:33] <shiftplusone> gordonDrogon, either I misunderstood you or you gave me wrong information D=
[19:33] <Raynerd> yes
[19:33] <PiQuestion2> but your driver has microstepping
[19:33] <daedeloth> so the pulses need to be in time
[19:33] <shiftplusone> Well, thanks for the correction. =D
[19:33] <PiQuestion2> so it will PWM the phases to make extremely small steps
[19:34] <pksato> shiftplusone: you confusing to servo.
[19:34] <PiQuestion2> it's possible that one step is 0.0018 degrees or less even
[19:34] <shiftplusone> pksato, that's probably it.
[19:34] <Raynerd> You can control them very simply using a high, delay low pulse!! but putting it in an interupt makes it much better for real use
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[19:34] <daedeloth> so. ideal situation I buy one of those arduino clones and make a bus to the pi?
[19:34] <shiftplusone> I am still not sure what the difference between servos and steppers is >.>
[19:35] <PiQuestion2> 0.014degrees apparently, with 1.8degree rotor
[19:35] <PiQuestion2> what are you going to do with it?
[19:35] <PiQuestion2> just make it turn or accurate positioning?
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[19:35] <daedeloth> well, it's already way too precise for what we're building... a desk that can go up and down. :p
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[19:36] <PiQuestion2> then you may want to look into servoblaster
[19:36] <daedeloth> so, just turn basically. and stop.
[19:36] <pksato> shiftplusone: to servo you send position to rotate.
[19:36] <PiQuestion2> it will make a nice square wave from the pi
[19:36] <PiQuestion2> you need accurate acceleration?
[19:36] <PiQuestion2> or is just *bang* starting ok?
[19:36] <daedeloth> some acceleration would be nice
[19:36] <pksato> stpper, you send x pulses (from referece position) to go to position.
[19:36] <Raynerd> Can you not just use a cheap motor and limit switch?
[19:36] <daedeloth> aaah that servoblaster thing links up to the interrupts?
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[19:37] <PiQuestion2> should have bought just dc motor...
[19:37] <atouk> look at the linistepper page. nice tutorial on steppers, and board kits
[19:37] <shiftplusone> pksato, thanks, I'll google more.
[19:37] <atouk> http://www.piclist.com/techref/io/steppers.htm
[19:37] <pksato> servo cab be build using stepper motors.
[19:37] <pksato> can be
[19:38] <PiQuestion2> yes, but in industry it's more and more being done with brushless motors and a good control system
[19:38] <Raynerd> The TB6560 chips have lots of bad press but they will work nicely with a pi, I am using a 3 axis one with my CNC machine and a single with my clock wheel cutter cnc divider
[19:38] <pksato> with stepper resolution are limited.
[19:38] <Raynerd> deadeloth - you already got a driver?
[19:38] <daedeloth> yea, already got the driver
[19:38] <PiQuestion2> you can microstep them though...
[19:38] <daedeloth> two of them actually
[19:39] <Raynerd> which ones?
[19:39] <PiQuestion2> you treat the stepper as a two phase motor with a 90 degree phase shift and you can also position it infinitely accurate
[19:39] <daedeloth> http://stappenmotor.nl/Datasheets/microstapdrivers%20info/MSD-50-5.pdf
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[19:39] <shiftplusone> Well, that has cleared up my confusion. I think was talking to Gordon about servos when the 180 degree limit came up.
[19:40] <PiQuestion2> some servo's can also do infinite rotation
[19:40] <atouk> http://www.nmbtc.com/step-motors/engineering/full-half-and-microstepping.html
[19:40] <Raynerd> daedeloth - so where you up to on the build ? I missed the start of your conversation
[19:41] <PiQuestion2> servo simply means that it has position feedback
[19:41] <Jeroi> why my rasberry apache2 dont display php errors?
[19:41] <shiftplusone> the variety does complicate things. I think someone mentioned that what we call servo motors aren't really servo motors O_o
[19:41] <PiQuestion2> so if you say rotate to 150 degrees and you attempt to push it to some other angle it will push back
[19:41] <daedeloth> Raynerd, trying to control the first motor :) but the controller expects 5v and the pi provides 3.3
[19:41] <pksato> daedeloth: test motor module off line.
[19:41] <shiftplusone> something to do with RC servos
[19:41] <Jeroi> I need to know where in the file I have typo and such
[19:41] <Raynerd> yes. You no 5v supply?
[19:41] <daedeloth> pksato, I don't know how to generate that kind of pulses
[19:41] <pksato> get 3v battery and try to send pulses on pul lines.
[19:42] <daedeloth> Raynerd, yea, I accidentally connected the 5v supply to 2 gpio's and the thing just worked
[19:42] <pksato> on/ff
[19:42] <pksato> on/off
[19:42] <atouk> Jeroi: turn error reporting on in php.ini
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[19:42] <daedeloth> by hand? the thing is going to rotate 1.8 degrees... :p
[19:42] <Jeroi> how?
[19:42] <Raynerd> daedeloth - you got any code to run the stepper?
[19:42] <Jeroi> where it is
[19:42] <pksato> daedeloth: yes.
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[19:42] <PiQuestion2> daedeloth: set the driver to full stepping for now
[19:42] <pksato> test with 3v and 5v
[19:42] <daedeloth> it's set to full step
[19:42] <PiQuestion2> if it's set to microstep it will make very small steps
[19:42] <PiQuestion2> perfect
[19:43] <shiftplusone> Jeroi, might need to enable error/debug info in php.ini ?
[19:43] <pksato> or 4.5 (from 3 1.5 batery)
[19:43] <Jeroi> where is the php.ini
[19:43] <Jeroi> ?
[19:43] <daedeloth> going to give 4.5 a try then
[19:43] <PiQuestion2> just use the raspberry pi permanent 3.3v and 5v for testing...
[19:43] <shiftplusone> take a look around /etc/
[19:43] <daedeloth> ah, yes, I'm going to do that
[19:43] <Raynerd> ??? so how are you suggesting testing?
[19:43] <PiQuestion2> simply touch the wire to the 5v repeatedly
[19:43] <PiQuestion2> it should turn then
[19:44] <pksato> daedeloth: have a bench PSU?
[19:44] <Raynerd> I`m going to give that a go. I can`t imagine that`ll work as you need a pulse on of within a set time...1ms or such surely!
[19:44] <atouk> look in /etc/php5/apache2/php.ini
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[19:46] <Raynerd> anyway, who am I to question. It`s a simple to write a quick code to send two pins on the GPIO high and low..... Direction= 0 Step =0 loop 100 times step =1, delay 10 step = 0 direction = !direction repeat. Nice test prog to see motor going one way and then the other
[19:47] <daedeloth> Raynerd, yea I already have the code
[19:48] <daedeloth> but 3.3v doesn't seem to be enough
[19:48] <daedeloth> but then again, touch the 5v wire also doesn't do the trick
[19:48] <daedeloth> I can use any GRND, right?
[19:48] <Raynerd> sure
[19:48] <Raynerd> what do you mean by 3.3v doesnt seem to be enough?
[19:49] <PiQuestion2> the driver doesnt react
[19:49] <PiQuestion2> so we thought maybe 3.3v signal level is too low
[19:49] <PiQuestion2> the specs ask for 5v
[19:49] <Raynerd> what is 3.3v ... a pi output??
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[19:49] <PiQuestion2> do you have oscilloscope to look at the signal going trough the motor
[19:49] <PiQuestion2> ja
[19:49] <PiQuestion2> yes
[19:50] <Raynerd> I didn`t know that, I thought it was 5v, not used the pi gpio just arduino`s or PICs
[19:50] <PiQuestion2> no it's 33.
[19:50] <PiQuestion2> 3.3
[19:51] <PiQuestion2> You have connected power to the driver, right?
[19:51] <PiQuestion2> stupid question but...
[19:51] <Raynerd> :-)
[19:52] <Raynerd> deadeloth - not by any chance got an arduino handy :-)
[19:54] <Raynerd> Is pin 2 not 5v???
[19:54] <shiftplusone> 'tis
[19:54] <Raynerd> In which case, can daedeloth not output his pulse signal on that?
[19:55] <shiftplusone> it's not programmable, it's just 5v.
[19:55] <shiftplusone> straight from the power supply (almost).
[19:55] <daedeloth> indeed
[19:56] <PiQuestion2> can you show a picture of the setup
[19:56] <PiQuestion2> just to make sure nothing is obviously wrongly connected
[19:56] <PiQuestion2> nice clock btw
[19:57] <Raynerd> ta
[19:57] <daedeloth> well, yea, I can take a picture
[19:57] <PiQuestion2> you can actually use the pi to time, if you can make the clock output a signal once per 'second'
[19:58] <PiQuestion2> then just the linux ppsdev
[19:58] <PiQuestion2> this is used to read a pulse per second signal from timing sources (such as gps or atomic clock)
[19:58] <daedeloth> but I'm using an old raid ribon to connect the wires, so it's all very messy :)
[19:58] <PiQuestion2> then you setup the pi for ntp for accurate time
[19:58] <PiQuestion2> and run ppstest, which will output the time between the pps pules
[19:58] <PiQuestion2> pulses
[19:58] <PiQuestion2> this is highly accurate as it is timed directly in the gpio interrupt
[19:59] <Raynerd> that sounds very good!!
[19:59] <Raynerd> So I could use a light gate on the pendulum
[19:59] <PiQuestion2> I don't know how precise such a clock can be made?
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[19:59] <PiQuestion2> probably using ntp as a reference is good enough?
[20:00] <daedeloth> how much can a standard led take?
[20:00] <PiQuestion2> 20mA or so
[20:00] <Raynerd> Not very, but it should give an indication of how it needs adjusting before visably having to read large time changes
[20:00] <Raynerd> YES
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[20:01] <Raynerd> I don`t really need to compare it though. It does 40 pulses/periods per second, so in theory I just need to check that on average, a period is 1.5 seconds.
[20:01] <PiQuestion2> Yes, but to measure that 1.5 seconds you need a reference
[20:02] <PiQuestion2> if you just connect it and you pi has accurate time it will print the duration of every period
[20:02] <PiQuestion2> so you can read it easily
[20:02] <PiQuestion2> probably even without ntp the crystal on the pi is more than enough
[20:02] <Raynerd> the issue is, calculating one is not good enough.
[20:03] <PiQuestion2> what you mean?
[20:03] <PiQuestion2> you can average them?
[20:03] <Raynerd> Some periods will be slightly different, the average must be 1.5
[20:03] <PiQuestion2> write a program to average a thousand measurements
[20:03] <Raynerd> yes, so you would just need a rolling average
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[20:03] <PiQuestion2> the period is sometimes longer as it is working the mechanism?
[20:03] <Raynerd> Would you use a light gate of some sort to actually record the pendulum
[20:04] <PiQuestion2> if it has to rotate the hour and minute wheels
[20:04] <Raynerd> Yes, exactly,
[20:04] <PiQuestion2> yes a light gate is best i think
[20:04] <PiQuestion2> simple
[20:04] <PiQuestion2> and no effect on the clock
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[20:04] <Raynerd> It is actually quite specific to that clock, but if you are interested, google my videos gearless clock and you`ll see, one tooth on the countwheel is deeper and this engages the pulse and drives the pendulum.
[20:05] <Raynerd> Consequently, the periods will always be slight different.
[20:05] <PiQuestion2> yeah I saw the video
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[20:06] <PiQuestion2> I have seen the design for a clock in car dashboard, it had a 32bit cpu with probably millions of transistors in it, running a firmware blob of 1.5MB containing a full real time os
[20:06] <PiQuestion2> talk about overengineered
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[20:08] <clever> lol
[20:08] <daedeloth> 4.5 doesn't sem to do anything.
[20:08] <daedeloth> or I fried something.
[20:09] <daedeloth> or I'm missing something else up :)
[20:09] <PiQuestion2> all it did was show to time, that it gets from the can bus
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[20:10] <atouk> modular engineering. part of a larger codebase, but for that function, only the clock code was necessary
[20:10] <PiQuestion2> you still have enable connected to 5v?
[20:10] <PiQuestion2> atouk: no not really, it's the same os they use for everything
[20:11] <PiQuestion2> with a tiny application written on top to drive the display
[20:11] <PiQuestion2> the os is 1.45MB or so
[20:11] <PiQuestion2> probably the cheapest solution though
[20:12] <daedeloth> hm, no I was wrong. 3v does cause a reaction
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[20:12] <PiQuestion2> nice
[20:12] <daedeloth> it was a strange reaction, but it did react.
[20:12] <PiQuestion2> what did it do?
[20:12] <daedeloth> it kindof started going, but very randomly
[20:12] <PiQuestion2> blue smoke?
[20:12] <daedeloth> I'm guessing it was the vibration causing my "manual connection" to disconnect and create pulses or something
[20:12] <PiQuestion2> yes, probably
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[20:12] <daedeloth> so, 2 batteries is enough
[20:13] <daedeloth> so 3v is enough
[20:13] <daedeloth> so I'm doing something wrong :)
[20:13] <atouk> or pulse current isn't enough to make it change phase properly to step
[20:13] <daedeloth> oh, is that possible?
[20:13] <PiQuestion2> seems unlikely to me...
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[20:14] <PiQuestion2> then it would never turn forward
[20:14] <PiQuestion2> just go half a step forward and back again
[20:14] <daedeloth> well it did turn
[20:14] <atouk> there are two power specs for steppers. stepping current, and holding current
[20:15] <PiQuestion2> he is using a driver
[20:15] <PiQuestion2> 3.3v is for the driver input
[20:15] <atouk> is teh stepper matched to the driver?
[20:15] <daedeloth> ok I'm going to connect a led to see if my pi is broken
[20:17] <daedeloth> I need one of those bread boards. this stinks.
[20:19] <phelix> Would anyone know how to use a game controller for omxplayer ? I am launching movies from emulationstation and want to be able to set some controls to my controller, this possible?
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[20:21] <shiftplusone> phelix, there are many ways to 'rebind' joystick keys to actual keyboard keys.
[20:22] <phelix> looks like omxplayer has option --key-config could I use this?
[20:22] <shiftplusone> not sure that supports joystick events
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[20:23] <phelix> any idea how i can make my controller operate omxplayer?
[20:23] <phelix> where would i even start
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[20:25] <shiftplusone> joy2key sounds promising
[20:25] <daedeloth> ok, I got it working
[20:25] <daedeloth> I think.
[20:25] <daedeloth> but or I'm sending too many pulses
[20:25] <daedeloth> it goes haywire.
[20:26] <atouk> daedeloth: look at section B1 http://www.micromo.com/Data/Sites/1/technical-library-pdf/how-to-prevent-step-losses.pdf
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[20:26] <daedeloth> it's set to 0.1 sec now
[20:26] <daedeloth> it doesn't turn
[20:26] <daedeloth> it blocks
[20:26] <daedeloth> so it's possible that it can't do it's phase
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[20:27] <atouk> http://www.amci.com/pdfs/faqs/faq-stepper-erratically.pdf
[20:27] <daedeloth> it sounds like it can't make it's turn
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[20:31] <daedeloth> direction is not connected, but FALSE is clockwise, so that shouldn't be a problem right?
[20:31] <phelix> how can you use joy2key alongside with launching programs from emulationstation?
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[20:36] <daedeloth> hm, the 3.3v doesn't take it.
[20:36] <daedeloth> oh, it does.
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[20:41] <trelane> is there a way to pxeboot a raspi?
[20:42] <shiftplusone> not pxeboot since that's an x86 intel thing
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[20:42] <shiftplusone> but you can use uboot for the same functionality
[20:42] <PiQuestion2> with u-boot you can boot from tftp
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[20:42] <shiftplusone> PiQuestion2, seems like you were a little short-sighted when you chose your nick >_<
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[20:43] <shiftplusone> Or was PiQuestionAndThenComeBackLaterToAnswerSomeToo2 taken?
[20:43] <pksato> trelane: or you asking if RPI can boot without a SD card?
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[20:44] <trelane> pksato, I'm wanting to hook up raspi's to Linux Terminal Server Project as a simple desktop
[20:44] <daedeloth> 1. The motor is not correctly coupled to the load.
[20:44] <daedeloth> does that imply an unloaded motor will always act erratical?
[20:45] <daedeloth> it seems to make a mistake every 2 turns
[20:45] <daedeloth> very strange
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[20:47] <daedeloth> it also seems very easy to make it make strange noises by setting the pulse to once every 0.01 seconds
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[20:48] <pksato> trelane: you can modify raspbian to act as terminal. ltsp guys not made rpi client image?
[20:49] <pksato> ah,. berryterminal.
[20:50] <daedeloth> I think I need to run it on 5v.
[20:53] <PiQuestion2> an error every two steps sounds like you connected the phases of the motor wrongly
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[21:06] <tonsofpcs> intereting....
[21:06] <tonsofpcs> raspberrypi kernel: [1312738.835208] usb 1-1: USB disconnect, device number 2
[21:07] <tonsofpcs> caused eth0 to go down (usb 1-1.1) too...
[21:07] <tonsofpcs> happened at 6:25am, the pi kept running doing as it was told (it's my thermostat), I just couldn't get to it over the network
[21:08] <tonsofpcs> then ifplugd reset the interface and ifup claimed eth0 was already configured...
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[21:09] <tonsofpcs> last boot was Mar 21 at 00:17:15, this happened April 5 at 06:25:01
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[21:10] <tonsofpcs> 1318080 seconds...
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[21:15] <AbbyTheRat> ok, this is fustrating.. I ordered a pizza
[21:15] <AbbyTheRat> it never arrived even thou the website says it has.. I can't call to be like "what the hell?" cause I'm deaf
[21:16] <AbbyTheRat> and so far, none of the people who could call for me is around
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[21:17] <atouk> where are you
[21:17] <AbbyTheRat> Ottawa
[21:17] <atouk> nvm in nj. was going to call for you
[21:17] <AbbyTheRat> , Canada
[21:17] <AbbyTheRat> ah, thanks for the offer
[21:17] <daedeloth> PiQuestion2, not every 2 steps
[21:17] <daedeloth> every 2 complete rotations
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[21:18] <shiftplusone> atouk, well skype them!
[21:18] <atouk> no skype
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[21:20] <PiQuestion2> AbbyTheRat: I had some idiotic problem with pizz
[21:20] <Encrypt> atouk, Jabber ftw \o/
[21:20] <PiQuestion2> I bought pizza and kebab for a large group of people, totalling >350�
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[21:20] <PiQuestion2> I pre paid using bank account
[21:20] <Encrypt> Or Tox within a year or two
[21:20] <PiQuestion2> Pizza does not arrive
[21:20] <PiQuestion2> I call, 'Ah, normally orders for this amount are pranks, we didn't make it'
[21:21] <PiQuestion2> 'dude, I paid in advance...'
[21:21] <AbbyTheRat> wow, nice and stupid
[21:21] <PiQuestion2> apparently they could not see that I paid already
[21:21] <AbbyTheRat> wow >_>
[21:22] <AbbyTheRat> and it's easy to sort pranks out
[21:22] <AbbyTheRat> by calling the person back
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[21:22] <AbbyTheRat> and asking for more details
[21:22] <AbbyTheRat> and stuff
[21:22] <shiftplusone> with a name like a touk, I would've thought you'd be Canadian too O_o
[21:22] <shiftplusone> ah, nvrm, it's spelled tuque.
[21:22] <PiQuestion2> Stupid prank also
[21:22] <AbbyTheRat> hee, still not right either
[21:22] <PiQuestion2> Buying loads of pizza for someone else
[21:24] <AbbyTheRat> it is a bit
[21:25] <AbbyTheRat> but right now it's look like I'm going to have get myself and my kid ready to go out and go to the store and be like wtf
[21:25] <AbbyTheRat> ER
[21:25] <AbbyTheRat> SORRY!
[21:25] <AbbyTheRat> >_<
[21:25] <AbbyTheRat> I totally mean where the food. Seriously, I do
[21:26] * AbbyTheRat hides behind shiftplusone
[21:26] <AbbyTheRat> at least IT_Sean isnt on, hee
[21:28] <shiftplusone> Sean's the last person to worry about when Reggie is on!
[21:28] <AbbyTheRat> D: but but.. I totally mean where's the food
[21:30] <shiftplusone> It's fine, people slip... Hell, SpeedEvil would slip every day >_<. I think he solved that problem by not being very active on here though =(
[21:30] <AbbyTheRat> NVM, pizza arrived
[21:30] <AbbyTheRat> and wow, so late
[21:31] <shiftplusone> Do you get it for free now?
[21:31] <AbbyTheRat> nupe
[21:31] <shiftplusone> hurray
[21:31] <AbbyTheRat> she's going back to get a different debit card -_-
[21:31] <AbbyTheRat> machine since the one she has is not working
[21:31] <AbbyTheRat> *Sighhh*
[21:31] <atouk> what kind? I'll have a piece vicariously
[21:31] <AbbyTheRat> pepperoni
[21:31] <atouk> yum
[21:32] <atouk> i usually get pepproni and roasted peppers
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[21:32] <shiftplusone> Not for you, Mr Tuque!
[21:33] <AbbyTheRat> I'm so giving her less tips
[21:33] <shiftplusone> Canada has a culture of tipping too?
[21:33] <AbbyTheRat> yeah
[21:33] <shiftplusone> argh
[21:33] <AbbyTheRat> doing pizza devlivery is the best tipping to do
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[21:35] <AbbyTheRat> cause you get a higher wage then being a server
[21:35] <shiftplusone> Seems ridiculous to expect people to pay people for doing their job. Do they get underpaid to hell too because of it too?
[21:35] <AbbyTheRat> servers yeah
[21:35] <AbbyTheRat> not drivers thou
[21:35] <AbbyTheRat> but some pizza places don't pay the drivers petrol money
[21:35] <[Saint]> So, the pizza is ages late, then the deliverery dude screws up and you can't pay, prolonging matters, and you're A: still going to pay, and B: tip?
[21:36] <[Saint]> Jeebus.
[21:36] <[Saint]> Tolerant human.
[21:36] <AbbyTheRat> cause.. I've been a driver before
[21:36] <AbbyTheRat> not happy
[21:36] <AbbyTheRat> but I understand the crap they go thou
[21:36] <AbbyTheRat> plus it's not a dude
[21:36] <shiftplusone> that makes a difference?
[21:36] <AbbyTheRat> and I'm eating right now
[21:37] <AbbyTheRat> waiting for her to return
[21:37] <[Saint]> Penis tax.
[21:37] <AbbyTheRat> that's what the tip for
[21:37] <[Saint]> :)
[21:37] <AbbyTheRat> at least she didn't decide to go back
[21:37] <AbbyTheRat> THEN return
[21:37] <AbbyTheRat> she had the thought to turn up give me food and then go back
[21:37] <shiftplusone> probably the stupidest thing about tips as well. I would be very surprised if guys get the same tip as girls.
[21:38] <AbbyTheRat> look, normally I would give a lot
[21:38] <AbbyTheRat> she's getting .75 cent compared to 4 dollars I would of given
[21:38] <AbbyTheRat> and I plan my tips BEFORE hand, so no gender bias
[21:38] <AbbyTheRat> cause I really hate gender inequality and all
[21:39] <shiftplusone> AbbyTheRat, I am not criticizing you, but the whole notion of tips instead of a proper pay to begin with.
[21:39] <AbbyTheRat> and it sounds like she's understaffed too o_o
[21:39] <[Saint]> You mist understand tipping is foreign to us. In our countries we pay our employees.
[21:39] <[Saint]> *must
[21:39] <AbbyTheRat> Canada have min-wage as well
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[21:39] <AbbyTheRat> plus tipping in Canada is actually more generous compared to other countries as well
[21:39] <shiftplusone> AbbyTheRat, what is the minimum wage for a waiter/server?
[21:40] <SpeedEvil> shiftplusone: My Pi USB stopped working properly.
[21:40] <AbbyTheRat> $8.75 last I checked
[21:40] <SpeedEvil> shiftplusone: It's currently not powered.
[21:40] <AbbyTheRat> and it was $10.65 for everyone else
[21:40] <[Saint]> Ie. Peanuts.
[21:40] <AbbyTheRat> bartenders also have the same wage as servers
[21:41] <AbbyTheRat> it's not a problem really, considering I use to take home 100$ for 2 shifts
[21:41] <AbbyTheRat> about 6 hours
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[21:41] <AbbyTheRat> problem lies with the company..
[21:41] <AbbyTheRat> they don't HAVE to let you take tips home
[21:41] <AbbyTheRat> they can demand 100% of the tips
[21:41] <shiftplusone> SpeedEvil, tried removing the LAN chip and adding the links to route the SoC's USB lines straight to the connector?
[21:41] <[Saint]> Yes. They do.
[21:41] <shiftplusone> AbbyTheRat, do you consider that sufficient?
[21:41] <SpeedEvil> shiftplusone: No.
[21:41] <adaro> is a mouse and keyboard required to boot a raspberry pi ? I turned mine on but I dont get any image on my monitor
[21:42] <[Saint]> They CANNOT restrict tips.
[21:42] <SpeedEvil> adaro: no. A SD card however is
[21:42] <AbbyTheRat> they can, actually, in ON
[21:42] <AbbyTheRat> unless they recently passed that law they were trying to pass
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[21:43] <atouk> can someone proof a readme for me. want to see if it's simple enough to follow and do in less than 2 minutes
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[21:43] <AbbyTheRat> and I did some maths, as long as I took home at least $10 home in tip for one shift, I made more then my fellow workers (bussers, cleaners) do in the higher min-wage
[21:43] <shiftplusone> AbbyTheRat, I could take a serving job quite easily and be paid over $20 AND doubletime when appropriate. The idea that in America they get paid something like $2.50 is just.... come on.
[21:43] <AbbyTheRat> we get paid double time too
[21:43] <adaro> SpeedEvil: I have put debian on the sd card but nothing seems to be happening
[21:43] <AbbyTheRat> yeah, Canada != US
[21:44] <adaro> the red light is on though but nothing else
[21:44] <atouk> no flashing green?
[21:44] <shiftplusone> AbbyTheRat, $10 isn't that great either for that sort of job.
[21:44] <adaro> no
[21:44] <adaro> nothinh
[21:44] <atouk> (how did you image the card?)
[21:44] <AbbyTheRat> nupe, but I'm trying to highlight the fact I rarely make less money then my co-workers
[21:45] <adaro> dd if=/Users/jkuperus/Downloads/2014-01-07-wheezy-raspbian.img of=/dev/disk1s1 bs=4m on my mac
[21:45] <atouk> oooh, mac.
[21:45] * atouk steps away from the help queue
[21:45] <adaro> is there an issue with sds created on a mac ?
[21:46] <shiftplusone> No
[21:46] <atouk> no, just don't know mac, so i'm no help
[21:46] <AbbyTheRat> but I hated my work place for serving thou
[21:46] <AbbyTheRat> it's illegal to make servers pay for any dine and dash
[21:46] <shiftplusone> It's just that we're not familiar with Macs.
[21:46] <AbbyTheRat> and that workplace do
[21:46] <AbbyTheRat> I'm glad I don't work there anymore :D
[21:47] <adaro> i can boot to either linux or windows :) but at least for linux it should be the same command right
[21:47] <AbbyTheRat> lovely people, dodgy business partices
[21:47] <shiftplusone> AbbyTheRat, I haven't met a waiter/server who loved their job.
[21:47] <AbbyTheRat> I did, I loved it
[21:47] <shiftplusone> http://www.theonion.com/articles/middleaged-waiter-sadly-not-involved-in-any-creati,35277/
[21:47] <AbbyTheRat> I just hated the whole company
[21:47] <atouk> custom errorpages for the pi http://www.atouk.com/wordpress/?page_id=238
[21:47] <[Saint]> Oh my God...I didn't believe you at first. But, yep. Ontario is still embedded deliciously in the past, and can gleefully steal tips off employees.
[21:47] <adaro> is there any way to verify that my sd card is infact correct
[21:48] <[Saint]> Seems its one of the very few places left in CN with this bass ackwardsness.
[21:48] <AbbyTheRat> mhm.. I know! The whole idea was because they get paid min-wage that they don't HAVE to have the tips
[21:49] <PiQuestion2> In france some restaurant got fined for tax evasion
[21:49] <[Saint]> Its also fun to note that there's a few laws that could potentially impose tipping as an obligation for parties greater than a certain amount.
[21:49] <PiQuestion2> because some client brought back his own dishes to the counter
[21:49] <PiQuestion2> and they did not report these 'consulted professional services' from the client to the tax authority
[21:50] <atouk> reeead that. they got a stpidly high fine, too
[21:50] <PiQuestion2> yes
[21:50] <PiQuestion2> 6000�
[21:50] <AbbyTheRat> were they even aware of the law?
[21:50] <PiQuestion2> IIRC
[21:50] <PiQuestion2> probably not
[21:50] <PiQuestion2> If you have to add something to your tax file every time someone orders at the counter...
[21:51] <atouk> restaurant shouldn'e be fined for simple curtosy by a customer.
[21:51] <[Saint]> I didn't think CN was so backward. Allow businesses to steal tips off servers, yet obligate the clients to tip.
[21:51] <AbbyTheRat> I do understand that ingonace (can't spell) isn't a valid defense for not knowing thiss but..
[21:51] <[Saint]> You could probably call that theft of the server and the client.
[21:51] <atouk> french aren't just rude, they're rude by statute
[21:51] <[Saint]> Hahahahahahaha
[21:51] <[Saint]> I think I peed a little.
[21:51] <PiQuestion2> something like that happened in belgium too
[21:51] <PiQuestion2> some kid broke into a liquor store
[21:51] <PiQuestion2> stole some strong alcohol
[21:52] <PiQuestion2> got drunk, wasted a lot of money at casino with fake id, sues shop owner for 'giving' beer to underage kid
[21:52] <AbbyTheRat> company got charged with providing alcohol to the kid?
[21:52] <PiQuestion2> shop owner won, in the end, but at considerable expense
[21:52] <shiftplusone> jeebus
[21:53] <atouk> who was it that said "the law is an ass"? Charles Dickens?
[21:53] <PiQuestion2> apparently it's not criminal if you provide the alcohol out of your control, like someone stealing it, but that was not clear, so it took a long case to figure it out
[21:54] * shiftplusone sets mode +b on CharlesDickens
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[21:55] <atouk> too late, Charles Dickens has alreadt left, Sometime in 1870
[21:55] <[Saint]> reading the above, my favorite similar situation is thieves breaking into places and injuring themselves and then suing the owner of the place they broke into for unsafe conditions causing injury.
[21:55] <AbbyTheRat> http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/the-law-is-an-ass.html
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[21:56] <shiftplusone> "This proverbial expression is of English origin and the ass being referred to here is the English colloquial name for a donkey" well then
[21:56] * shiftplusone sets mode -b on CharlesDickens
[21:57] <atouk> at least he can join if he ever returns...
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[21:58] <AbbyTheRat> this whole section.. It should be saved.. the day CharlesDickens got wrongly banned.
[22:01] <sireorion> i solved the prob wirh boot. but now is my memorycard 150 mb in windows
[22:01] <shiftplusone> sireorion, is that an issue?
[22:01] <atouk> that's not a problem
[22:02] <shiftplusone> sireorion, windows just pretends linux isn't there. Out of sight, out of mind and all.
[22:02] <sireorion> yes becouse i need it in my systemcamera
[22:02] <atouk> reboot and use raspi-config to expand teh filesystem. the fat32 partitions is for boot only. the ext4 that windows can't see is for raspbian
[22:02] <sireorion> ok
[22:03] <shiftplusone> raspi-config won't help you with the 150MB partition
[22:03] <sireorion> xbmc is kinda slow on rpi
[22:03] <shiftplusone> slow in what way? no lag of any kind here. Are you using openelec?
[22:04] <sireorion> ill fix the partition later, using mbc
[22:04] <atouk> of you change teh fat32 partition, the pi may not boot
[22:04] <shiftplusone> what's mbc?
[22:05] <shiftplusone> atouk, as long as it's fat32, it should boot fine.
[22:05] <sireorion> the one in rpis homepage
[22:06] <atouk> but the ext4 is just after the fat32. mucking with the fat32 may destroy the root partition for raspbian
[22:06] <[Saint]> ...huh?
[22:07] <shiftplusone> not if you do it properly
[22:07] <shiftplusone> gparted should handle it all nicely.
[22:07] <[Saint]> any tool worth its salt should.
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[22:08] <shiftplusone> most tools trust you to know what you're doing
[22:08] <daedeloth> I'm ordering some electronic stuff
[22:08] <daedeloth> are there any basics I definitely need?
[22:08] <atouk> sometimes the best tools are no match for the inexperienced user
[22:08] <shiftplusone> if you use something like cfdisk or parted you'll just modify the partition table and leave all the data exactly where it was.
[22:09] <shiftplusone> but he left anyway
[22:09] <AbbyTheRat> http://bpaste.net/show/Ors5IPPhgjDrmOTKRPoy/
[22:09] <[Saint]> daedeloth: you'll probably want to get some assorted protons and electrons.
[22:09] <[Saint]> In varying sizes, of course.
[22:09] <daedeloth> I think I'm just going to produce those en masse
[22:10] <AbbyTheRat> protons and electrons have different sizes?
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[22:10] <shiftplusone> well... from each other, yes.
[22:10] <[Saint]> ;)
[22:10] <atouk> tried ordering gravitons in bulk once. shipping costs were insane
[22:11] <shiftplusone> though I don't think that electrons have the property 'size'
[22:11] <[Saint]> technically, no.
[22:11] <daedeloth> so. I have a breadboard. I have a set of wires to go with it.
[22:11] <shiftplusone> I think they just modeled as points (or waves, in certain cases)
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[22:11] <daedeloth> I have those SN74HCT244PW's
[22:14] <daedeloth> what's that arduino alternative?
[22:14] <shiftplusone> the not-really-an-arduino-alternative linked earlier? (STM32 F4 Discovery)
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[22:14] <daedeloth> wasn't it an arduino alternative earlier?
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[22:15] <shiftplusone> I don't think it's fair to call it an arduino alternative
[22:15] <shiftplusone> but.. I suppose it is.
[22:15] <phelix> I have joy2key configured and working. But anyone know how to use it on a program at the same time in terminal? I don't want it for startx. Somehow be able to launch a program from the term and joy2key at the same time? That make sense
[22:15] <daedeloth> should I just buy the arduino?
[22:16] <daedeloth> there's multiple versions :O
[22:16] <shiftplusone> It's more like arduino on steroids. A little tricky to start developing on.
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[22:16] <shiftplusone> but the community isn't bad (##stm32) and there are lots of resources online.
[22:17] <adaro> if the raspberry pi does not like a certain sd card how could i tell ?
[22:17] <daedeloth> ok, so for ease of me: arduino uno + pi?
[22:18] <shiftplusone> daedeloth, that should be plenty to get you started.
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[22:24] <tonsofpcs> AbbyTheRat: is there not a free telecommunications relay service in Canada?
[22:24] <shiftplusone> Though one of the most 'educational' things I've done was actually ditching the dev boards and playing with logic gate and flip flop chips.
[22:24] <AbbyTheRat> I don't have the gears to use it
[22:24] <AbbyTheRat> <_<
[22:25] <AbbyTheRat> last time I Checked anyway
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[22:25] <shiftplusone> And next on the list was bare metal ARM firmware (for the F4 Discovery).
[22:25] <tonsofpcs> AbbyTheRat: would be cool if there were an IRC based one... hmm...
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[22:27] <PiQuestion2> http://jalopnik.com/5906371/this-flying-remote-controlled-dragon-actually-breathes-fire/all
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[22:31] <[Saint]> http://www.dragtimes.com/blog/tesla-model-s-ethernet-network-explored-possible-jailbreak-in-the-future
[22:31] <[Saint]> whoops.
[22:32] <PiQuestion2> It's a standard industrial ethernet connector
[22:32] <daedeloth> awesome. as a company I get free shipping & cheaper than usual.
[22:33] <PiQuestion2> you can buy a standard patch cable for that connector: http://www.n-tron.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=130
[22:33] <tonsofpcs> hmm.... AbbyTheRat: who is your home phone provider?
[22:33] <AbbyTheRat> VoIP - distribatell
[22:34] <[Saint]> PiQuestion2: yeah, just actually looked at the pictures properly.
[22:34] <[Saint]> I have quite a few of those cables and sockets here.
[22:34] <daedeloth> oh. damn. chips don't fit on breadboards, do they?
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[22:35] <AbbyTheRat> answer to tonsofpcs
[22:35] <tonsofpcs> they say they have 7-1-1 service (which would require a tty) and to contact them for more details but, being an IP phone service, maybe they have an IP relay service that you can get at with a computer too?
[22:35] <pksato> daedeloth: that chip?
[22:35] <tonsofpcs> (primus apparently has IP relay services)
[22:35] <daedeloth> yea
[22:35] <daedeloth> oh it does fit
[22:36] <daedeloth> never mind
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[22:36] <PiQuestion2> I wonder if there is any engine control data going over that ethernet network
[22:37] <tonsofpcs> PiQuestion2: probably designed for diagnostic data... that said, that doesn't mean there's not a way in there...
[22:37] <[Saint]> I love that Tesla engineers sen tan "*Ahem*...stop that, yadda yadda, industrial espionage, yadda yadda" message to the owner.
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[22:40] <tonsofpcs> shiftplusone: eh, my brother yesterday was telling me that raspberrypis and arduinos are essentially the same thing ...
[22:41] <AbbyTheRat> what's the different?
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[22:42] <[Saint]> "the different", is, rather a lot.
[22:42] <AbbyTheRat> I got a good idea, but it's a valid question, isn't it?
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[22:43] <tonsofpcs> AbbyTheRat: an arduino is a pre-assembled system that is centered around an atmega microprocessor that is targeted at low power, low overhead microcontroller uses.
[22:44] <tonsofpcs> a raspberry pi is a miniature PC that happens to have digital i/o pins.
[22:44] <AbbyTheRat> that's what I thought basically :)
[22:44] <AbbyTheRat> thanks
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[22:45] <tonsofpcs> are there projects that could be done with either? sure. But one could also build a bridge out of sticks or a bridge out of steel.
[22:45] <shiftplusone> tonsofpcs, ask your brother how well the arduino performs as a media center or how quake3 plays =P
[22:46] <shiftplusone> I would throw running linux in there too... but it has been done >_<
[22:46] <tonsofpcs> shiftplusone: he won't know. He's probably never used either. I just sent him my thermostat code (I know he took one of those online learn-python 'classes' a while ago), maybe I'll get him a pi to play with...
[22:46] <tonsofpcs> I finally bought a new pi to replace my failed one yesterday (had to stop at the electronic shop to get some adapters anyway)
[22:46] <pksato> http://hackaday.com/2013/03/02/24-port-gpio-on-a-pci-card/ (old surveillance use same chip and have headers to gpio)
[22:47] <PiQuestion2> I did not know that the tesla model s had a 3g uplink to the factory
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[23:02] <xkD7> I setup my rasp pi as a NAS and I was wondering if somebody could suggest a web browser based file manager I could install that would be lite and easy to use
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[23:04] * shiftplusone votes for 'write one' >.>
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[23:09] * [Saint] votes for "the poor thing probably suffers enough as a NAS, let it die in peace" ;)
[23:09] * ShorTie snickers
[23:10] <shiftplusone> It's usually the user, not the pi that suffers.
[23:12] * shiftplusone grumbles about first time forum users posting the same thing multiple times because they ignore all the messages about the first post being moderated to stop kitchen spam.
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[23:13] <[SLB]> xkD7, file manager as in? to just download or also upload and handle folders?
[23:13] <xkD7> probably just download
[23:13] <[Saint]> We chuck all posts the user makes whislt still awaiting validation into the trash and send them an email telling them so.
[23:13] <[Saint]> shiftplusone: ^
[23:13] <ShorTie> powering the Raspberry Pi with hydrogen, http://www.raspberryhy.com/ nifty
[23:14] <[SLB]> i use h5ai on lighttpd, it's pretty nice
[23:14] <[SLB]> http://pi.slblabs.com/fileserver/
[23:14] <shiftplusone> [Saint], Is there a simple way to do that with phpbb?
[23:14] <[Saint]> No idea. Never used it.
[23:15] <[Saint]> We use Simple Machines SMF
[23:15] <[SLB]> it works also with other webservers, it's just that zip of files you config per instructions
[23:15] <shiftplusone> I've suggested limiting the number of posts a user can make before they are approved to one, but there's no built-in phpbb way to do it and I didn't see any mods for it.
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[23:16] <shiftplusone> Plus a few others made the points that some people make multiple. separate posts, without double-posting and it would be a shame to greet new users by throwing out their posts.
[23:16] <xkD7> [SLB]: thanks, I will look into that
[23:16] <[SLB]> xkD7, official website http://larsjung.de/h5ai/
[23:16] <[SLB]> welcome
[23:17] <[Saint]> shiftplusone: the same way it would be a shame to greet a new community by not respecting their policies? ;)
[23:17] <[Saint]> (nice counter argument)
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[23:22] <[Saint]> I think we send something along the lines of "you didn't read our rules, or you're not human. be patient or go away"
[23:22] <[Saint]> Humans very rarely bounce off this, though.
[23:22] <clever> i think you can set it so new posts go into a moderation queue and have to be approved before being seen
[23:23] <clever> then manualy send them a forum pm each time you approve a post, until they get a clue or you ban em :P
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[23:23] <[Saint]> Yep. But shiftplusone's problem is users posting multiple posts into that queue, iiuc.
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[23:23] <[Saint]> We limit that by sending everything past the first unvalidated post to the crap can.
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[23:24] <[Saint]> So we'll only ever see a single unvalidated post from any given author. The rest bounce off into nowheresville and the user gets notified.
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[23:25] <daedeloth> hm so I've connected the second motor as well and both motors have the same problem, the same strange sound
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[23:26] <daedeloth> same frequency
[23:26] <[Saint]> Electro-ghosts.
[23:26] <[Saint]> Very common this time of year.
[23:28] <daedeloth> how can a stepper motor actually turn one step?
[23:28] <shiftplusone> [Saint], got disconnected. Yeah, I agree, but Murphy's Law tells us that people will double post, regardless of what the policy is.
[23:28] <SpeedEvil> daedeloth: applying the appripriate voltages.
[23:28] <shiftplusone> daedeloth, you mean on the mechanical level?
[23:28] <daedeloth> ah, working 2 coils at the same time?
[23:29] <SpeedEvil> daedeloth: sometimes.
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[23:30] <PiQuestion2> Depends
[23:30] <PiQuestion2> IIRC with full-step only one coil is active at a time
[23:30] <PiQuestion2> with half step it can be two
[23:30] <clever> i would think direction would be hard to control with just 1 coil active
[23:31] <clever> i'm thinking activate 2, to pull it into the mid-point, then shut the previous one off, to pull it the rest of the way?
[23:31] <SpeedEvil> It depends on the sort of stepper.
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[23:32] <daedeloth> when I set pulse interval to 0.1 s, with full step, it turns very, very slowely
[23:32] <PiQuestion2> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Drive.png
[23:32] <daedeloth> well, it "shocks"
[23:32] <daedeloth> but it works
[23:32] <daedeloth> but with 4 coils, I cannot imagine how :p
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[23:34] <PiQuestion2> try accelerating it
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[23:35] <PiQuestion2> you should not immediatly start at say 100Hz, you start at say 5Hz and progressively increase the speed
[23:35] <PiQuestion2> otherwise the rotor cannot follow your drive and does not move properly
[23:35] <daedeloth> too much math for this time of night
[23:36] <daedeloth> no I just really can't understand how it can move 90� in 30 seconds
[23:36] <daedeloth> I mean, how does it do that? with only 4 coils?
[23:37] <daedeloth> are 2 coils charged depending on the position?
[23:37] <atouk> it's not the number of coils taht counts, it's the number of poles
[23:38] <daedeloth> for the strange sound: is it possible that it is a stutter?
[23:39] <daedeloth> and is it possible that the raspberry pi is sometimes a tiny bit behind, about every 2 seconds?
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