#raspberrypi IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2014-04-06

Timestamps are in GMT/BST.

[0:00] * iBooyaa (~iBooyaa@cpc10-colc6-2-0-cust141.7-4.cable.virginm.net) has joined #raspberrypi
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[0:02] * joako (~joako@opensuse/member/joak0) Quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
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[0:06] * iBooyaa (~iBooyaa@cpc10-colc6-2-0-cust141.7-4.cable.virginm.net) Quit (Quit: doh!)
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[0:20] * x1337807x (~x1337807x@207-170-205-178.static.twtelecom.net) Quit (Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)
[0:25] * PasNox (~pasnox@2a01:e35:8b61:9b30:214:d1ff:fee9:bd3a) Quit (Quit: Leaving - Cross platform IDE http://monkeystudio.org)
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[0:34] * chris_99 (~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929) Quit (Quit: Leaving)
[0:39] * NIN101 (~core@n900.quitesimple.org) Quit (Quit: Leaving)
[0:39] * picca (~picca@2.125.140.32) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)
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[0:42] * AbouEmre (~Thunderbi@cable-178-148-70-163.dynamic.sbb.rs) Quit (Read error: Operation timed out)
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[0:46] * RaptorJesus is now known as HarryPotter
[0:46] * HarryPotter is now known as RaptorJesus
[0:47] * RaptorJesus is now known as MmmmmDrugs
[0:47] * Guegs (~Guegs___@207-47-171-38.sktn.hsdb.sasknet.sk.ca) has joined #raspberrypi
[0:47] * MmmmmDrugs is now known as StoneyPothead
[0:48] * cccyRegeaneWolfe is now known as cccy_RegeaneWolf
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[0:52] * picca (~picca@2.125.140.32) Quit (Quit: Lingo - http://www.lingoirc.com)
[0:55] * rdbell (~rdbell@108-228-5-220.lightspeed.irvnca.sbcglobal.net) has joined #raspberrypi
[0:55] * Mikelevel (~MoVeWoRk@unaffiliated/mikelevel) Quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
[0:56] * atouk (~kvirc@ool-4575268a.dyn.optonline.net) Quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
[0:56] * xkD7 (~kevin@blk-222-164-182.eastlink.ca) Quit (Quit: leaving)
[0:59] * utack (~utack@mnch-5d8678c8.pool.mediaWays.net) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)
[0:59] * daedeloth (~daedeloth@ip-83-134-210-84.dsl.scarlet.be) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)
[0:59] * atouk (~kvirc@ool-4575268a.dyn.optonline.net) has joined #raspberrypi
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[1:03] * lvispy (~luiz@179-125-136-160.desktop.com.br) Quit (Max SendQ exceeded)
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[1:06] * adaro (~jkuperus@53518F8B.cm-6-2c.dynamic.ziggo.nl) Quit (Quit: adaro)
[1:08] * lupinedk is now known as Lupinedk
[1:10] * pwh (~pwh@c-24-61-11-18.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) has joined #raspberrypi
[1:12] * StoneyPothead is now known as RaptorJesus
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[1:14] * picca (~picca@2.125.140.32) Quit (Quit: Lingo - http://www.lingoirc.com)
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[1:24] * Dragane (~MoreFeeYo@BSN-143-43-142.dial-up.dsl.siol.net) Quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
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[1:32] * Geniack (~Geniack@unaffiliated/geniack) Quit (Disconnected by services)
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[1:33] * dansan (~daniel@99-70-244-137.lightspeed.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net) has joined #raspberrypi
[1:33] * Guegs (~Guegs___@207-47-171-38.sktn.hsdb.sasknet.sk.ca) Quit (Client Quit)
[1:34] * MidnighToker (~Toker@unaffiliated/midnightoker) Quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
[1:36] * jiuweigui (~jiuweigui@unaffiliated/jiuweigui) Quit (Quit: I gotta run. I've got universe to master.)
[1:37] * ppq (~ppq@unaffiliated/ppq) Quit (Quit: Leaving)
[1:40] * MoreFeeYouS (~MoreFeeYo@BSN-143-45-28.dial-up.dsl.siol.net) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
[1:41] * picca (~picca@2.125.140.32) Quit (Quit: Lingo - http://www.lingoirc.com)
[1:42] * setkeh (~setkeh@unaffiliated/setkeh) Quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
[1:42] * ksx4system is now known as SAMOZUO
[1:42] * owenmurr (~owenmurr@109.175.201.0) Quit (Quit: Lost terminal)
[1:42] * SAMOZUO is now known as ksx4system
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[1:43] * rdbell (~rdbell@108-228-5-220.lightspeed.irvnca.sbcglobal.net) Quit (Quit: rdbell)
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[1:51] * llc (~llc@p15174-ipngn100106tokaisakaetozai.aichi.ocn.ne.jp) Quit (Quit: Leaving...)
[1:54] * wiiguy (~fake@unaffiliated/wiiguy) Quit (Quit: I just broke my connection, but no worries, we can rebuild it. We have the technology.)
[1:54] * _BigWings_ (~Thunderbi@modemcable167.12-130-66.mc.videotron.ca) has joined #raspberrypi
[1:55] * picca (~picca@2.125.140.32) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)
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[2:09] * rdbell (~rdbell@108-228-5-220.lightspeed.irvnca.sbcglobal.net) Quit (Quit: rdbell)
[2:09] * Cols|Work is now known as colsarcol
[2:09] * colsarcol is now known as Colsarcol
[2:10] * Portugol9 (~Portugol9@unaffiliated/portugol9) Quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
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[2:28] * picca (~picca@2.125.140.32) Quit (Quit: Lingo - http://www.lingoirc.com)
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[2:32] * GentileBen (~RaycisCha@cpc5-lutn10-2-0-cust681.9-3.cable.virginm.net) Quit ()
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[3:46] * duoi_afk is now known as duoi
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[4:10] * Benguin is now known as Benguin[ZzZ]
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[4:20] <Helldesk> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUjfRbt5bEQ 5 years of EEVblog!
[4:21] * [Saint] cringes
[4:22] <[Saint]> To a New Zealander, that accent may as well be fingernails on a chalk board.
[4:23] <Helldesk> haha
[4:23] <[Saint]> Slightly patronizing, nasal, and with an upward inflection on everything.
[4:23] <[Saint]> IOW: Australian. ;)
[4:24] <Helldesk> yeah I think I remember it taking a while getting used to it but I don't mind it anymore :)
[4:25] <[Saint]> Hilariously, though, ask an Australian and *we* (NZ) have the horrible accent.
[4:25] <Helldesk> I watch one aussie and one kiwi on youtube
[4:26] * basti (~basti@xdsl-89-0-136-180.netcologne.de) has joined #raspberrypi
[4:27] <Helldesk> Dave and Bruce
[4:27] <[Saint]> Bruce.
[4:27] <[Saint]> That's just classic.
[4:27] <[Saint]> Absolutely classic.
[4:28] <Helldesk> Bruce Simpson, at http://www.youtube.com/rcmodelreviews (and http://www.youtube.com/xjet )
[4:28] <Helldesk> he's got a more normal voice
[4:28] <Helldesk> much more
[4:29] <Helldesk> well, to the ear of a Finn :)
[4:29] <[Saint]> Sounds perfectly normal to me, natch. ;)
[4:29] <[Saint]> Just like a Bruce should sound.
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[5:37] <AbbyTheRat> I sooo forgotten so much about linux
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[5:38] <AbbyTheRat> even installing stuff, wow
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[5:39] <[Saint]> Not really sure you can make such a generic claim about "linux" wrt "installing stuff", since basically every distribution does it differently.
[5:39] <AbbyTheRat> wrt?
[5:39] <hideo> with respect to
[5:40] <AbbyTheRat> ah, thank you
[5:40] <AbbyTheRat> true
[5:40] <AbbyTheRat> being there's debrian, and fedroa and etc
[5:40] <hideo> are you intentionally butchering the distro names? :(
[5:40] <AbbyTheRat> no
[5:41] <hideo> i also like lunix, it is so looney
[5:41] <pksato> today to install some app, just open app store of distro and 'buy'. :)
[5:41] <AbbyTheRat> the only few distro's name that I could remember how to spell correctly is opensuse and ubunutu
[5:41] <hideo> you got 1 out of 4 so far, AbbyTheRat
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[5:42] <AbbyTheRat> well now
[5:42] <AbbyTheRat> ubuntu?
[5:42] <AbbyTheRat> ah whatever, I'm not great at spelling, I know that :/
[5:42] <[Saint]> shiftplusone: I just noticed a major hole in this channel...
[5:43] <AbbyTheRat> hell, I keep having to remember how to spell raspberry (I mix p and b up)
[5:43] <[Saint]> I was trying to make a comedic appearance with a slightly humorous nick, but...nope.
[5:43] <[Saint]> Only registered clients can join.
[5:43] <[Saint]> Seems a little weird for a support channel.
[5:43] <AbbyTheRat> mhm, I noticed..
[5:43] <[Saint]> It pushes the bar for support a bit higher than it should be.
[5:43] <AbbyTheRat> -#python is the same
[5:44] * [Saint] wonders how many people bounce off that daily
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[5:52] <AbbyTheRat> so what was the nick? orr.. you could use the group function
[5:52] <AbbyTheRat> but that means having another nick
[5:52] <[Saint]> I was just going to pop in and say "ello, dis is de Brian"
[5:53] <[Saint]> It would've been a lot funnier immediately after your typo.
[5:53] <AbbyTheRat> hee. ^^;
[5:54] <AbbyTheRat> but yeah, I get bounced off the channel a lot
[5:54] <AbbyTheRat> one of the two channels as an unregistered channel
[5:54] <AbbyTheRat> it's actually a real pain
[5:55] <[Saint]> I can understanding the reasoning behind it, but I'm unsure how problematic it was before it was implemented. Or even if it was an issue at all.
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[5:55] <[Saint]> If you drop the registration requirement, any user can get instant real-time help just by visiting a url.
[5:56] <AbbyTheRat> problem is..
[5:56] <[Saint]> No need for a dedicated client or nick for a service you may never use again.
[5:56] <hideo> spammers
[5:56] <AbbyTheRat> any users could get instant bomb the channel.. soo... I did guess that they wanted to manage the channel a bit
[5:56] <[Saint]> hence my "unsure if it was even a problem at all"
[5:57] <[Saint]> But, there's ways to mitigate this also.
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[5:57] <AbbyTheRat> hideo: then you use +m, and voice registered users and have users message a bot for voice and as long as the user isn't on a bad list
[5:57] <AbbyTheRat> unregistered users
[5:57] <[Saint]> ^ this
[5:58] <AbbyTheRat> then at least they don't have to register completely
[5:58] <AbbyTheRat> however, [Saint], one of the mods or few mods hate bots so
[5:58] <hideo> that's too much trouble on the mods parts though
[5:58] <AbbyTheRat> that's debatable :)
[5:59] <[Saint]> If its too much trouble, might wanna consider a new carreer. ;)
[5:59] <AbbyTheRat> hmm.. even then, the bot could cause problems :)
[6:00] <AbbyTheRat> hmm.. is there a way to search what could be installed on py?
[6:00] <AbbyTheRat> from the open sources
[6:01] <[Saint]> Perhaps it bugs me a bit to much, but I imagine the frustration of a user who just wants a bit of support finding out that they can't get it without registering for a service they may never use again.
[6:01] <AbbyTheRat> oh nvm, I figured it out :)
[6:01] <AbbyTheRat> I registered and joined
[6:01] <AbbyTheRat> but then I didn't need help
[6:02] <AbbyTheRat> bingo, wooo :)
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[6:02] <tonsofpcs> huh, it failed again...
[6:03] <tonsofpcs> going to restart now to figure out where...
[6:03] <AbbyTheRat> doh, tonsofpcs
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[6:05] <AbbyTheRat> oh huh, I google something completely different and I find some codes for pi doing basically what I want
[6:05] <AbbyTheRat> ha
[6:06] <hideo> google knows what you want even better than you do
[6:07] <AbbyTheRat> it's funny cause back when I googled for this stuff directly, I never found it
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[6:07] <AbbyTheRat> then some almost unrelated google search and I get what I wanted ages back. Sad thing is I already built half way, roughtly
[6:08] <AbbyTheRat> so, I'm not sure if I just keep going, or scrape it and go with the code and modify it to my needs
[6:10] <AbbyTheRat> pro of doing it myself would be I would actually learn more stuff, con more stuff to get stuck on, harder, and so on
[6:11] <[Saint]> Do you want *every* installed package, or only packages *you* installed?
[6:11] <[Saint]> One is very easy. Ther other mildly easy.
[6:12] <AbbyTheRat> o_O?
[6:12] <[Saint]> [16:00:24] <AbbyTheRat> hmm.. is there a way to search what could be installed on py?
[6:12] <[Saint]> Oh. "could be".
[6:12] <AbbyTheRat> yeah, I found my soluation, kinda
[6:13] <AbbyTheRat> [00:01:27] <AbbyTheRat> oh nvm, I figured it out :)
[6:13] <AbbyTheRat> you know, I think IRC timestamps should be in UTC across the board <_<
[6:14] <[Saint]> If you want me to make it more confusing for you, I could add the date too. :)
[6:14] <[Saint]> saint@saint-desktop:~$ date
[6:14] <[Saint]> Sun Apr 6 16:14:42 NZST 2014
[6:15] <[Saint]> I'm in the fricken' future, man.
[6:15] <AbbyTheRat> new zeland (I'm going to get shot for my bad spelling >_<) standard timezone?
[6:15] <[Saint]> That's the one.
[6:16] <AbbyTheRat> huh.. I thought NZ had two timezones
[6:16] <AbbyTheRat> I guess I thought incorrectly
[6:16] <[Saint]> No. It does. Its just that, largely, no one cares about the other one.
[6:17] <[Saint]> The other is the Chatham Islands.
[6:17] <tonsofpcs> http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=71c7ZWaE
[6:17] <[Saint]> CHAST is +12:45UTC
[6:18] <[Saint]> NZST is just +12
[6:18] <tonsofpcs> here's the logs of my loss of ethernet *twice* today. Had to reboot to get access again. IP is dhcp but a static lease.
[6:18] <tonsofpcs> (from syslog)
[6:18] <AbbyTheRat> :45? wow, I've not seen a timezone like that before
[6:19] <AbbyTheRat> although.. having said that, I've seen one :30 somewhere.. I don't remember where
[6:19] <tonsofpcs> AbbyTheRat: probably India
[6:19] <[Saint]> tonsofpcs: that's a bit more than just eth falling over.
[6:20] <tonsofpcs> [Saint]: hmm?
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[6:20] <tonsofpcs> that's the loss of the ethernet 'adapter' that I'm seeing, yes.
[6:20] <[Saint]> It seems as though the entire network controller fell over.
[6:20] <[Saint]> (taking USb with it)
[6:20] <tonsofpcs> actually, I'm not entirely sure if it's the adapter or the hub.
[6:21] <tonsofpcs> http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=HVtq7DYW is kern.log
[6:22] <[Saint]> If it were the hub, I assume (and this may be dangerous) that Eth wouldn't fall over at the exact same moment.
[6:23] <AbbyTheRat> so a cycling failure?
[6:23] <tonsofpcs> [Saint]: it should... I mean, it's just a usb ethernet adapter
[6:23] <AbbyTheRat> one goes down, before the next?
[6:24] <[Saint]> tonsofpcs: Aha...right. There's the context I was lacking. I see.
[6:24] <AbbyTheRat> usb adapter? pi type A?
[6:24] <[Saint]> But were that the case (hub fault), I would expect USb to disappear *before* Eth did.
[6:24] <tonsofpcs> AbbyTheRat: no, the ethernet on the B is just a usb chipset
[6:25] <[Saint]> But that may be a timing issue in reporting.
[6:25] <AbbyTheRat> yeah I know that.. .. but.. nvm.. jut ignore me, I'm just confused
[6:25] <tonsofpcs> http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=p4qJ4Tj2 is messages
[6:26] <tonsofpcs> it shows the root going away 55microseconds before the eth...
[6:26] * [Saint] nods
[6:26] <AbbyTheRat> when you say hub, you are talking about an external job?
[6:26] <tonsofpcs> (the first time, 37 the second)
[6:26] <AbbyTheRat> hub, not job
[6:27] * AbbyTheRat is mostly confused cause she's making bad assumptions
[6:27] <tonsofpcs> AbbyTheRat: USB has 'hubs' that connect devices to controllers. It's either integral to a controller chipset or its own chipset. I'm not sure how it's configured on the pi.
[6:28] <tonsofpcs> I'm not talking an external hub (which would be its own chipset and appear the same as an on-board hub as far as the machine is concerned)
[6:28] <AbbyTheRat> Yeah.. I made some bad assumptions on the termilogy used.. see, when someone say eth on the pi, I assume the USB Lan that's on the board, and someone say USB Lan Adapter being an extra plug in device
[6:28] <tonsofpcs> [Saint]: I guess there's two problems here. 1) the hub is disappearing (taking eth0 with it). 2) when eth0 comes back, it doesn't appear to be getting an address properly
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[6:29] <AbbyTheRat> and when they say hub, I was assuming the hub was being an extra device plugged in to expand the number of USB ports.
[6:29] <tonsofpcs> I mean, it's gone for 0.12s...
[6:30] <AbbyTheRat> tis an interesting bug
[6:30] <[Saint]> It didn't happen to coincide with a spurt of IO or network throughput, did it?
[6:31] <[Saint]> *disk IO
[6:32] <[Saint]> Either one in excess can adversely affect the other.
[6:32] <[Saint]> (when you're sharing a single bus)
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[6:43] <tonsofpcs> [Saint]: I'm digging through application logs
[6:43] <tonsofpcs> network throughput, no, since it doesn't normally communicate over the network (I ssh in, I http in, but I didn't at either failure time afaik)
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[6:44] <AbbyTheRat> which kinda sucks and the only way to improve that is by using another of the IO, but those have a lower throughput
[6:44] <AbbyTheRat> throughput? is that even the correct word?
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[6:45] <tonsofpcs> no major change in process at the time of the latter failure, going to look at the first
[6:45] <[Saint]> Damn.
[6:45] <[Saint]> I was hoping to see some really obvious event that puched you off.
[6:45] <[Saint]> *pushed, even.
[6:45] <tonsofpcs> nothing at the first either
[6:46] <AbbyTheRat> is there anything else plugged into the pi?
[6:46] <tonsofpcs> it had the used output pin pulled high both times but it was pulled high for some time, not a new pull-high...
[6:46] <[Saint]> Bums. That puts me squarely in the realm of guessing.
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[6:47] <tonsofpcs> it's got a one-wire temperature sensor on a GPI and a relay (with transistor control, etc) on a GPO. I'm triggering other GPOs but they're not connected.
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[6:47] <tonsofpcs> and there's power, ethernet, and an SD card.
[6:47] <AbbyTheRat> cause right now, maybe you should unplug Everything but the lan and run that
[6:47] <tonsofpcs> this is a rev 1 B
[6:47] <AbbyTheRat> well, unplug everything but lan and everything needed to make the pi run
[6:47] <tonsofpcs> it ran from March 21 around midnight until this morning at 6am without issue...
[6:47] <AbbyTheRat> the bare minimnum, then run it for a few days see if it has issues
[6:48] <AbbyTheRat> March 21? so ah..
[6:48] <AbbyTheRat> would need to run for a month before deciding to plug another device in.. that kinda suck but it be a good way to at least figure out if it's the pi/lan causing problems or something attached to the pi causing problems
[6:48] * [Saint] suddenly starts wondering if he can wrestle control of the surface mount LEDs on the pi for his own usage.
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[6:48] <tonsofpcs> [Saint]: let me know if you figure out how
[6:49] <[Saint]> I suspect they're "dumb". But I may find myself surprised.
[6:49] <AbbyTheRat> is that even possible? I would of figured the GPU would be the one controlling it..
[6:49] <AbbyTheRat> good luck on your quest, [Saint]
[6:50] <tonsofpcs> dhcp hadn't expired yet for either instance...
[6:51] <AbbyTheRat> tonsofpcs: my best suggest right now is to just unplug everything and run the bare mininum with lan connected for a month and see if the issue appear during that time. If it doesn't then you could reasonable say that it's not the lan or the pi it self causing problems but something else attachted to the pi is interferring with the pi's operation
[6:51] <[Saint]> Ohhhhh, well, that was fairly easy to find once I started tossing in slightly obscure terms.
[6:51] <[Saint]> http://pastebin.com/pLaDMWmN
[6:52] <AbbyTheRat> good job, [Saint] :)
[6:52] <[Saint]> And a python version too. Spoiled for choice.
[6:52] <[Saint]> http://pastebin.com/BTfn9bA5
[6:53] <[Saint]> Well. That's enough for me to play with. Excellent.
[6:53] <AbbyTheRat> 16 is the key number, it seems
[6:54] <tonsofpcs> well, eth0 wasn't allow-hotplug so I added that to /etc/network/interfaces , maybe that will help...
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[6:59] <piti_> how long or polyfuse to recover?
[7:00] <[Saint]> A few minutes
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[7:01] <piti_> it's been a day now my pi still show only red led
[7:01] <[Saint]> Its reasonably safe to say its not the polyfuse them unless you live in an unbearably hot climate.
[7:01] <[Saint]> *then
[7:02] <[Saint]> It can take anywhere from a couple of minutes to a few hours.
[7:02] <[Saint]> But nowhere near a day.
[7:03] <AbbyTheRat> goodnight
[7:03] <[Saint]> If the polyfuse is cool to touch, it is almost certainly re-polymerized.
[7:03] <[Saint]> (and therefore should be functional)
[7:04] <[Saint]> {in theory}
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[7:05] <[Saint]> piti_: got a multimeter?
[7:05] <piti_> no
[7:05] <[Saint]> Suck.
[7:05] <piti_> yup
[7:05] <[Saint]> Well, that's about all the useful statements I can make on the topic.
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[7:06] <[Saint]> By this time (assuming "a day" == ~8 hours), were it the polyfuse, it should be reset unless the ambient temperature in the room was high enough to probably kill you.
[7:06] <piti_> i check the "boot sticky" and i cant think of anything beside the polyfuse.. i can read the sdcard in my pc but the pi just wouldnt show green light for sd card.
[7:07] <piti_> no i lve in a cold temperature plac, so it at normal temperature now.
[7:07] <piti_> live*
[7:07] <[Saint]> No blink codes?
[7:07] <piti_> only red led
[7:07] <piti_> sometime the green only flash once
[7:09] <[Saint]> SoC doesn't happen to have an "M" with a circle around it, does it?
[7:09] <piti_> i read about it but dont know where to check for "M"
[7:10] <piti_> you have a picture of it?
[7:10] <[Saint]> http://elinux.org/images/7/71/BM1320-Front.JPG
[7:10] <[Saint]> (the big black square in the middle)
[7:12] <piti_> no, mine said samsung/ is that good thing or bad thing/
[7:13] <[Saint]> Its a bit of a bad thing. Because that error code probably isn't actually an error code and it means I have no idea what it could be again.
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[8:19] <tonsofpcs> hmmm
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[8:26] <ShorTie> mmmh
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[8:46] <cerberii> hi
[8:46] <ShorTie> Good Morning
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[10:24] <ggherdov_> hi. is there a repository of rpi projects oriented to education? Like, using the pi as a cheap platform to introduce kids to computing.
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[10:32] <ShorTie> have you l00ked thru the forums maybe ??
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[10:35] <ggherdov_> no. Will do. What are the biggest ones?
[10:36] <ShorTie> rasapberrypi.com has 1
[10:37] <ShorTie> gordonDrogon has some i think on his site too, https://projects.drogon.net
[10:38] <ShorTie> some projects that is
[10:38] <ggherdov_> thanks ShorTie
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[10:38] <ShorTie> really need more details on what all you want to do
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[10:39] <ShorTie> like just programming or build hardware and program
[10:39] <ShorTie> led's are always fun to begin with
[10:40] <ShorTie> then maybe add a switch to make it blink or turn on
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[10:51] <ggherdov_> ShorTie: I am checking http://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/ . My target is my nephew, 7 yo girl. I'd like to introduce her to programmig in a playful way. I am very please to see the "scratch" section of the forum. Let her play with "scratch" was my first thought http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scratch_%28programming_language%29 -- or some sort of Logo.
[10:51] <ggherdov_> I thought of the Pi because it's cheap (I don't want to buy her an iPad or a full fledged computer)
[10:56] <ShorTie> the biggest thing is do not go cheap on the power supply or micro usb cable to power it
[10:56] <ShorTie> a good option is a nice powered usb hub
[10:56] <ggherdov_> ok thanks for the hint
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[10:57] <ShorTie> you need atleast a 1amp supply, if your gonna try to borrow a phone charger
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[11:03] <ggherdov_> ok!
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[11:12] <ShorTie> here is the very basic to get http://www.newark.com/raspberry-pi/raspberry-pi-8gb-usd/model-b-8gb-sdcard-w-noobs-pre/dp/04X5042
[11:13] <gordonDrogon> morning ...
[11:13] <ShorTie> get the pi sdcard so you know you got a good 1, and 5 bucks for a 8gig sdcard isn't bad anyways
[11:13] <ShorTie> Good Morning
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[11:14] <gordonDrogon> ggherdov_, scratch plus turtle graphics.
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[11:15] <ggherdov_> ShorTie: awesome. gordonDrogon: "turtle graphics" is the name of a software? is it like a port of Logo ?
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[11:15] <gordonDrogon> ggherdov_, turtle graphics is a form of easy to use computer graphics - Logo had a version, but it's not specific to Logo.
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[11:16] <ggherdov_> ok
[11:16] <gordonDrogon> e.g. pendown ; pencolour = yellow ; move 100 ; right 90 ...
[11:16] <dean[h]> Morning. I'm trying to put the debian image on my pi using mountain lion and this tutorial: http://www.raywenderlich.com/44918/raspberry-pi-airplay-tutorial When I try and dd the image across I get a permission denied
[11:16] <gordonDrogon> scratch has blocks to do all that.
[11:16] <dean[h]> sudo dd bs=5m if=~/Downloads/2014-01-07-wheezy-raspbian.img of=/dev/disk1
[11:16] <dean[h]> dd: /dev/disk1: Permission denied
[11:16] <dean[h]> I tried /dev/rdisk1 also
[11:17] <linuxstb> Is disk1 definitely your SD card?
[11:17] <ShorTie> most likely not
[11:17] <dean[h]> when it was mounted it was called /disk1s1
[11:17] <dean[h]> it was /dev/disk1s1 sorry
[11:17] <linuxstb> Does /dev/disk1 still exist?
[11:18] <dean[h]> yep
[11:18] <dean[h]> br--r----- 1 root operator 1, 4 Apr 6 12:08 disk1
[11:19] <linuxstb> That seems to be the issue - it's read-only for some reason.
[11:19] <dean[h]> Hm, it's a fresh sd card
[11:19] <dean[h]> Do i need to do something with it?
[11:19] <ShorTie> not normally
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[11:20] <linuxstb> Is there a write-protect switch on it?
[11:20] <dean[h]> oh dear... let me check that ;-)
[11:20] <dean[h]> yes, but it's not set to the lock position
[11:21] <[Saint]> Raspi doesn't care about it in the slightest.
[11:21] <dean[h]> disk utility indicates it's formatted as fat, and i can't see any partitions
[11:21] <[Saint]> So, that's cool. No biggie.
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[11:21] <dean[h]> Write Status is set to read only in the disk utility guy also hmm
[11:21] <[Saint]> Raspi wouldn't care if the right protect tab were "locked".
[11:21] <linuxstb> [Saint]: The Raspi doesn't, but we're talking about OS X.
[11:22] <dean[h]> yes, haven't put it in my pi yet. putting the OS on first :)
[11:22] <ShorTie> did you unmount it ??
[11:23] <[Saint]> Oh. I see. Haha...yeah. There it is, just past where I scrolled IP to. Typical. :)
[11:23] <dean[h]> ShorTie: yes
[11:23] <[Saint]> *up to
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[11:24] <linuxstb> dean[h]: Can you use any other SD cards. A quick google seems to show that it's a common fault - OS X honours the write-protect switch, but sometimes the sensor can break, making all cards read-only.
[11:24] <dean[h]> i don't have one handy linuxstb :(
[11:24] <linuxstb> Or do you have a USB SD card reader?
[11:25] <dean[h]> I don't have a usb card reader handy also
[11:25] <dean[h]> Eek, i came all the way to the office to do this :p
[11:25] <linuxstb> You could try playing with the switch in different locations - on, off, or perhaps half-way between the two.
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[11:26] <ShorTie> did you try /dev/disk1s1 in stead of just /dev/disk1
[11:27] <dean[h]> it says "Resource busy"
[11:27] <dean[h]> but presumably if the disk utility is saying my drive is read only, nothing can be done until that issue is addressed
[11:28] <linuxstb> dean[h]: This video suggests putting the switch halfway between the open and closed positions - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nehn7mh81vs
[11:29] <dean[h]> that seemed tow irk linuxstb
[11:29] <dean[h]> but now i get the resource busy :)
[11:30] <linuxstb> THen you need "diskutil unmount /dev/disk1s1"
[11:30] <dean[h]> ah yes
[11:30] <linuxstb> (I don't think sudo is needed, for that, or the dd)
[11:30] <linuxstb> In fact, it's safer not to use sudo.
[11:30] <dean[h]> okay i think we're in business now :)
[11:31] <dean[h]> i've had nothing but problems with transcend sd cards on my cameras, don't know why i bothered paying for this for the pi :)
[11:31] <linuxstb> This is a hardware fault on your Mac, nothing to do with the card.
[11:31] <dean[h]> I've not had the issues with other cards before today
[11:31] <dean[h]> or maybe i have, I've never tried to write
[11:32] <linuxstb> The SD card reader on my Macbook is dead completely - they don't seem very reliable...
[11:32] <linuxstb> I guess they just collect dust.
[11:33] <dean[h]> is it possible to see the status of the dd command or do i have to wait until it's complete?
[11:35] <linuxstb> You can type "killall -USR1 dd" in another terminal
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[11:39] <gordonDrogon> you need to get the PID of dd to do that.
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[11:40] <gordonDrogon> then again, with only one dd running, killall might just find it..
[11:41] <dean[h]> it finished copying now anyway, but thanks for the info
[11:41] <dean[h]> now to find the pi on the network :)
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[11:43] <linuxstb> gordonDrogon: When do you have more than one dd running? ;)
[11:43] <dean[h]> oh dear, doesn't appear to be located
[11:44] <linuxstb> DId you do "diskutil eject /dev/disk1" after the write finished?
[11:44] <dean[h]> i ejected it using the disk utility
[11:44] <dean[h]> maybe it's because i switched ethernet cables after the pi had been on for a few minutes
[11:45] <linuxstb> That should be fine, although it may have changed IP address.
[11:45] <ShorTie> did the pi blink it's green light as booting
[11:46] <dean[h]> i couldn't tell you that
[11:46] <dean[h]> but at the moment i have a punch of leds on
[11:46] <dean[h]> there is one called LNK that is blinking green
[11:48] <dean[h]> the 100 light is orange, FDX is green, PWR is red
[11:50] <ShorTie> it's the green act light on the other side of the red power from all those that shows sdcard activity
[11:50] <dean[h]> the act light is not blinking at all
[11:51] <ShorTie> if it is not blinking, try unplugging the pi, then plug it back in to see if it blinks
[11:52] <dean[h]> specifically unplugging what? the power?
[11:52] <ShorTie> plus that will most likely fix any dhcp problems if the eithernet cable is hooked up before hand
[11:52] <ShorTie> ya
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[11:53] <dean[h]> the act light is now blinking a bit
[11:53] <ShorTie> ok, sounds like the sdcard write went good and it is booting
[11:54] <dean[h]> how long should the boot take before it gets an ip?
[11:54] <ShorTie> maybe look in your router if you can to get the ip
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[11:55] <ShorTie> depends on the os and what is loading, but a minute is most likely good enough
[11:55] <dean[h]> I'm at work, i don't have router access
[11:55] <ShorTie> it should definitly have it by the time the act light stops blinking
[11:56] <dean[h]> I've tried using "fing" on iOS to find it, and also this command on osx: sudo nmap -sP 10.38.1.0/24 | awk '/^Nmap/{ip=$NF}/B8:27:EB/{print ip}'
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[11:57] <ShorTie> if at work, are you sure the have dhcp running or it's not tied to mac addresses ??
[11:57] <dean[h]> yeah
[11:57] <dean[h]> the cable I'm plugged into, is in our presentation room
[11:57] <dean[h]> we have guests come in all the time
[11:57] <gordonDrogon> linuxstb, er, well, you never know - got to think of everything you know!
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[11:58] <ShorTie> ah, that could be a different network too maybe
[11:58] <dean[h]> hm, that's possible, i can plug the ethernet into my laptop to see that though?
[11:59] <ShorTie> just so guest can't infiltrate the main network
[11:59] <dean[h]> by different network you mean a different subnet right?
[11:59] <ShorTie> yup.
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[11:59] <dean[h]> i wish i had my spare laptop with me :D i forgot it at home
[11:59] <ShorTie> if you do the laptop thng, you will need to setup your own network between it and the pi most likely
[12:00] <dean[h]> well our lan is on 10.38.1.x
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[12:00] <dean[h]> if i plug the ethernet cable in and it gives me an ip of 10.38.1.x then i know that this should not be a problem
[12:01] <dean[h]> so just to be clear, i am checking that the ethernet puts me on the same subnet as wifi on my laptop that I'm looking to search for this device?
[12:02] <ShorTie> oh, now your throwing wifi in there, that adds another layer of posiblities
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[12:03] <dean[h]> well, my laptop is connected to wifi and it's on the 10.138.1.x subnet, my phone is on wifi also (I'm searching using ring) and it's *ALSO* on the 10.138.1.x subnet. the only thing i have yet to confirm is that the ethernet in the pi is on the 10.138.1.x subnet
[12:04] <dean[h]> if all three are on the same subnet, what else would i need to investigate?
[12:04] <ShorTie> try a cable connected pc to see if the same network
[12:05] <dean[h]> okay be back in a few then
[12:05] <ShorTie> you could try ping or ssh to 10.38.1.x where x=1-254
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[12:08] <dean[h]> ShorTie: on another ethernet in the office and i found it ;-)
[12:08] <dean[h]> let's see how far i get now, thanks for the nudge in the right direction
[12:08] <dean[h]> sometimes it's the little things you miss
[12:09] <ShorTie> so the wifi is a different subnet i guess ??
[12:09] <linuxstb> You could try nmap - e.g. nmap -F 10.138.1.0/24
[12:10] <dean[h]> ShorTie: it seems so. this won't be a problem at home though just at the office
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[12:11] <dean[h]> linuxstb: what does that do?
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[12:13] <SpeedEvil> Does anyone happen to know of a cheap composite video -> USB adaptor that works with linux, ideally in the UK?
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[12:17] <tonsofpcs> 'dazzle dpvm'
[12:17] <tonsofpcs> alternatively, 'easycap usb'
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[12:20] <hero_shed> can i easily put this in rc.local for autostart? sudo nohup /home/pi/webcam/motion -n -c motion-mmalcam.conf &
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[12:22] <[Saint]> Yes. But it won't catch fun corner cases.
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[12:23] <[Saint]> Its always difficult to decide how to lauch things you (I assume) want to run indefinitely.
[12:24] <[Saint]> There's a few different methods, all with at least one caveat.
[12:25] <ShorTie> hmmm, hero_shed this is the pi camera, have you looked into rpi cam control, mmal is like old
[12:26] <[Saint]> I never really know how to comment with auto-launch user-stuffs.
[12:27] <[Saint]> There's a bunch of different methods, I'm never sure which are distro-specific, and there only ever seems to be a single accepted "one true method", yet people will always disagree about what that is.
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[12:28] <hero_shed> there are many tutorials, so i try motion (dozencrows)
[12:29] <[Saint]> cron's @reboot is an obvious choice, but misses the corner case of missing a clean startup (which I always thought was weird, even if the name is reboot).
[12:29] <ShorTie> but rpi cam control just works
[12:29] <[Saint]> eek, I double negativeded..ed.
[12:30] <ShorTie> and like i said mmal is old and not really supported i believe any more
[12:31] <[Saint]> (slightly related) Isn't it amusing to see a raspi-specific tool labeled as "old"?
[12:32] <[Saint]> My how time flies.
[12:32] <ShorTie> hero_shed, http://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=63276
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[12:33] <hero_shed> ShorTie, dont know if i should switch, motion working great
[12:34] <hero_shed> ShorTie, but thx
[12:34] <ShorTie> that is motion based, but sweet if you got it workin
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[12:38] <dean[h]> I got the airplay receiver working. Thanks for all the help ShorTie and others :)
[12:38] <dean[h]> Quite surprised at how simple this was to get up and running once i was ssh'd in
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[15:13] <MProg> hi o/
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[16:07] <eddyb> hi :)
[16:07] <eddyb> is there anything I can do without an HDMI/DVI display?
[16:07] <mimer> with raspberrypi?
[16:07] <eddyb> yeah
[16:07] <mimer> ofc! you can install the whole system through ssh!
[16:07] <eddyb> this is model A, I think (no network)
[16:07] <mimer> oh
[16:08] <mimer> then, I have no idea :P
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[16:08] <eddyb> are there UART pins I could maybe hook to my arduino?
[16:08] <shiftplusone> yes
[16:08] <shiftplusone> but they're 3.3v logic.
[16:08] <eddyb> nope, not burning this raspi with 5V
[16:09] <eddyb> well, thanks. I'll try to look around more
[16:09] <shiftplusone> you could use a voltage divider to step the rx down.
[16:10] <shiftplusone> or just buy a 3.3v uart -> usb adapter, they're cheap and handy enough.
[16:10] <shiftplusone> And I would argue absolutely essential for a model A.
[16:11] <eddyb> I wonder if I could maybe combine an HDMI->DVI cable with a DVI->VGA converter. I'd just need a female-female DVI-DVI connector... but would it fly?
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[16:11] <eddyb> shiftplusone: oh, I'll look for one of those
[16:11] <shiftplusone> as long as the adaptor is active.
[16:11] <eddyb> the HDMI->DVI one?
[16:11] <[Saint]> If its a convertor, and not an adapter. Sure.
[16:12] <eddyb> I'm pretty sure the HDMI->DVI cable is digital->digital (no conversion)
[16:12] <[Saint]> If it just pipes it through like so many hilarious amazon cables...nup. Never.
[16:12] <[Saint]> Those are pure snake oil.
[16:12] <[Saint]> They couldn't ever work.
[16:13] <eddyb> I don't know if the DVI->VGA converter can actually do digital->analog
[16:13] <eddyb> or if it's also analog->analog
[16:13] <[Saint]> If it can't. It won't work.
[16:13] <eddyb> I couldn't test as both DVI ends are male
[16:13] <[Saint]> The hint should be the price.
[16:13] <[Saint]> These aren't cheap.
[16:13] <eddyb> hah, I have no idea, I didn't buy them
[16:13] <shiftplusone> eddyb, is it just a cable or is it a box with electronics?
[16:14] <eddyb> the HDMI->DVI one is just a cable
[16:14] <shiftplusone> then it won't work
[16:14] <[Saint]> Nope.
[16:14] <shiftplusone> and even the ones that do, are a bad idea, since they draw too much power from the HDMI port.
[16:14] <eddyb> so you're saying DVI->VGA "converters" only work with analog DVI?
[16:15] <eddyb> (which the output from that cable obviously isn't)
[16:15] <shiftplusone> I am not too familiar with DVI
[16:15] <eddyb> I know that it has both analog and digital signals
[16:16] <shiftplusone> but it doesn't have to
[16:16] <eddyb> so you can just have no-conversion cables from HDMI or VGA to DVI
[16:16] <eddyb> shiftplusone: right, I mean, it can have either of them
[16:16] <eddyb> but in this case, I have a small DVI->VGA thing and I have no idea what's in it
[16:17] <eddyb> it's like two connectors with a box between them
[16:17] <eddyb> it *could* do analog DVI to VGA, but then it would only work if the DVI signal included analog
[16:17] * eddyb *shrug*
[16:17] <[Saint]> This is a road headed to failuresville. Its best not to involve such witchcraft.
[16:18] <[Saint]> Too many points of failure.
[16:18] <eddyb> [Saint]: I was mostly speculating out of curiosity
[16:18] <[Saint]> Ah.
[16:18] <eddyb> I will probably only use a DVI display for this
[16:18] <eddyb> and look for a 3.3V USB<->UART thing
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[17:23] <cygnae> hey guys, good morning
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[17:24] <cygnae> anyone brave enough to take a look at my dmesg and tell me why my external hdd keeps "crashing" ?
[17:25] <shiftplusone> is it powered through a hub or does it have its own supply?
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[17:26] <cygnae> it's working alright, it's one of those MyBook drives, has its own supply
[17:26] <cygnae> but sometimes it will just.... stop.
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[17:28] <cygnae> there
[17:28] <cygnae> http://pastebin.com/2kasbktu
[17:29] <shiftplusone> I would look at the SMART info and try a different usb cable.
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[17:30] <cygnae> how do I take a look at the SMART info?
[17:30] <cygnae> changing cables as we speak...
[17:30] <shiftplusone> install smartmontools
[17:31] <cygnae> installing....
[17:31] <shiftplusone> then pastebin smartctl -a /dev/sda
[17:32] <shiftplusone> and just so that I don't waste your time, I don't know what the problem is, I am just saying what I would do, which is pretty much poke around blindly to rule out the obvious.
[17:33] <cygnae> if i'm learning then none of us are wasting time
[17:34] <cygnae> and.... there we go
[17:34] <cygnae> http://pastebin.com/3tV4hZ17
[17:35] <shiftplusone> well, the drive itself seems good enough
[17:36] <cygnae> how do you know, why
[17:36] <cygnae> just by reading it?
[17:37] <[SLB]> is it western digital?
[17:37] <cygnae> [SLB] sup! yes, it is
[17:37] <[SLB]> heya
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[17:37] <shiftplusone> When a hard drive is failing, Raw_Read_Error_Rate, UDMA_CRC_Error_Count, Seek_Error_Rate and such jump up
[17:37] <[SLB]> not sure these hd's have a spin off time they go in standby after a while maybe
[17:39] <cygnae> so you're saying that uh.. the drive should spin off but it stands by and then something linux something drive crashes?
[17:39] <shiftplusone> But I have had similar issues with some of my external HDDs when the connector or cable are bad. It just kept resetting and getting into an unusable state with errors similar to what you have. I don't think that the case here, since presumably it all works fine on other computers?
[17:40] <[SLB]> maybe it goes to sleep and never wakes up again? not sure
[17:41] <[SLB]> with some loose ports on my pc i get the same problem, but there i know it's because of the port looseness
[17:41] <cygnae> [SLB] you might be on to something there, because as shiftplusone said I remember plugging it to the pc and maybe just *MAYBE* the mini-usb port on the back of the drive is faulty.
[17:42] <[SLB]> could be :\
[17:42] <cygnae> man I'm not a happy pirate right now. can't find a mini-usb cable
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[17:42] <[SLB]> if i move the cable indeed i get connection/disconnection and i hear the drive spinning differently, so maybe either the cable or the por
[17:42] <[SLB]> port
[17:43] <shiftplusone> I'd expect better from a MyBook, but the cheap enclosures you get off ebay are notorious for this.
[17:43] <cygnae> *sighs* good thing I'm getting new toys this week
[17:44] <cygnae> saved for like 8 months but I hope it will be worth it :D
[17:44] <cygnae> so... plugged in the new cable, is there a way to "refresh" the pi?
[17:45] <shiftplusone> refresh?
[17:45] <nid0> that drive is spinning up and down from idle a *lot*
[17:45] <cygnae> shiftplusone yeah like... make the system read the drive again
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[17:45] <shiftplusone> it should just do that
[17:45] <cygnae> or do I have to reset to get it mounted?
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[17:46] <shiftplusone> You should have to do anything fancy.
[17:46] <[SLB]> mine is an older elements model though, not mybook, but yea
[17:47] <shiftplusone> Are you mounting it through fstab or expecting the DE to mount it for you?
[17:47] <cygnae> it has its own fstab line
[17:47] <shiftplusone> so just sudo mount /mountpoint
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[17:48] <cygnae> there's nothing wrong with my rpi right? it's just the hdd?
[17:50] <shiftplusone> I see no reason to rule anything out yet.
[17:51] <nid0> your dmesg suggests either a problem with the enclosure or its power, or the pi's usb port
[17:52] <cygnae> Damn it I think (I hope) it's the enclosure, I restarted the pi, disconnected power+usb from the hdd, arranged it closer to me so I could hear it, plugged it in... now the rpi won't detect it.
[17:52] <shiftplusone> Seems like we're all centering in on the physical connection or the enclosure itself.
[17:52] <cygnae> shiftplusone exactly
[17:52] <cygnae> in theory, it would be better to buy a hdd enclosure?
[17:53] <nid0> a new enclosure for the disk wouldnt hurt
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[17:54] <cygnae> it would just take 2 weeks *sigh* or a little over double the price
[17:54] <nid0> ?
[17:55] <cygnae> oh, you should know, I live in Mexico. Stuff is expensive over here.
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[17:56] <cygnae> yep.. I think the enclosure just died.
[17:56] <cygnae> mount: special device /dev/sda1 does not exist.
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[18:05] <AbbyTheRat> meow
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[18:08] <cygnae> now..
[18:08] <cygnae> ima destroy the casing.
[18:09] <AbbyTheRat> o_o good luck?
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[18:11] <cygnae> drive date: 15 june 2009
[18:11] <cygnae> :S
[18:11] <MProg> a meowing rat ? Oo
[18:12] <shiftplusone> survival tactic... blend in with the enemy.
[18:12] <MProg> haha :)
[18:13] <cygnae> oh my luck
[18:14] <cygnae> found another case
[18:14] <cygnae> ....it's IDE
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[18:15] <blockh34d> hi
[18:15] <cygnae> sup
[18:15] <nid0> dunno about mexican prices but enclosures start from about £10 here
[18:15] <blockh34d> back from toil
[18:15] <shiftplusone> hi
[18:15] <blockh34d> remade a bathroom, trimmed out some rehab
[18:16] <cygnae> nid0 ten pounds is... just a bit expensive
[18:16] <cygnae> for an enclosure
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[18:16] <nid0> its 1/3 the cost of a pi
[18:16] <blockh34d> hey anyone think it'd be possible to make a special fake hd cam source that feeds to rpi picam header, but instead of being cam its maybe 16 lores video sources ganged up 4x4?
[18:17] <cygnae> just to give both an idea, we'll speak in USD
[18:17] <cygnae> my pi costed 65 USD
[18:17] <shiftplusone> blockh34d, anything is possible, but I don't think it will happen any time soon.
[18:17] <nid0> a £10 enclosure is like 16 USD
[18:18] <blockh34d> shiftplusone: i strikes me as one way to turn a pi into an awesome serurity CCTV device
[18:18] <cygnae> OMG the drive's working
[18:18] <blockh34d> i paid 8$ for my case and it felt like too much
[18:18] <blockh34d> but i was pretty tempted to just hack one together out of a cigar box or something
[18:18] <cygnae> enclosures here in mexico go for about... 18 USD
[18:18] <cygnae> it is a lot.
[18:18] <nid0> we're discussing external HDD enclosures, not pi cases
[18:19] <blockh34d> oh thanks sorry
[18:19] <blockh34d> misunderstood
[18:19] <blockh34d> yah that's on my list of pi projects too though, i heard you can get pretty good performance out of a pi if you move the root filesystem to a proper drive... is that your goal?
[18:20] <shiftplusone> the performance is about the same
[18:20] <shiftplusone> slower if you have high network activity.
[18:20] <nid0> no, this guy's just got an external hdd with a faulty enclosure that probably needs replacing
[18:20] <blockh34d> shiftplusone: oh thanks... I think about tyring to step up my gamedev rig a little
[18:20] <nid0> and yeah, offloading a pi's filesystem doesnt really gain much any more thanks to everything running off a single usb bus
[18:20] <cygnae> nid0: definitely needs replacing from what i'm getting here.
[18:20] <blockh34d> feels like if i'm doing a bunch of work on it, might be worth the effort/expense
[18:21] <blockh34d> maybe i'll jsut get a better sdcard
[18:21] <cygnae> maybe a.... yeah better performance sdcard
[18:21] <nid0> fwiw my pis do run their rootfs's over iscsi which works well, but the performance compared to a good sd card isnt much different
[18:21] <cygnae> unlike me i'm running my Pi on a class4 2gb microSD
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[18:28] <Datalink> I need to look into iSCSI later, I wanna work in it but haven't gotten any experience in it
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[18:39] <nid0> Datalink: there is a full if out-of-date, guide on the wiki to setting up an iscsi initiator on the pi and running rootfs from it
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[18:43] <blockh34d> does the picam share the same bus as the usb/sdcard?
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[18:43] <shiftplusone> no
[18:44] <shiftplusone> nor do usb and sd share the same bus.
[18:45] <blockh34d> ohh, i thought thats what nid0 just said
[18:46] <blockh34d> i don't really understand the underlaying architecture of the rpi very well though
[18:46] <nid0> by "everything" I meant all usb ports and networking, sorry if that wasnt clear
[18:46] <blockh34d> its all just a mystery box with a ? on it in my mind
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[18:46] <blockh34d> no worries thanks for the input, i'll figure it out eventually
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[18:47] <blockh34d> i need to figure out the picam header's magic, i think theres neat stuff for me in there
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[18:48] <shiftplusone> I don't think it's worth the trouble, since it's undocumented
[18:48] <blockh34d> i want to make a 3d scanner witha pi, maybe one that watches multiple angles of an object at once, just feels like i need to monitor many cams at once for many different projects
[18:48] <blockh34d> hmm
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[18:49] <blockh34d> well i found some CCTV usb video encoders with 4 and 8 inputs, seems like maybe a good bet but slow...
[18:49] <blockh34d> guess that'll have to do for now
[18:50] <blockh34d> i get to 3d print a prototype of my headset soon!
[18:50] <blockh34d> right now its all hardware store, cardboard and rubberbands
[18:50] <blockh34d> soon i'll be using proper 3d printed cusom housing though, should hold everything real snug, maybe i can even get it partially water proof
[18:51] <blockh34d> speaking of, has anyone tried to use a vacuame(?sp?) sealed pi?
[18:51] <blockh34d> like put the pi and the interface and everything into a food vacuam sealer, suck all the air out etc... would it still work? and now underwater?
[18:51] * AbbyTheRat poke blockh34d
[18:52] <blockh34d> Hi AbbyTheRat how you feeling?
[18:52] <blockh34d> shake the bug that was ailing ya for good?
[18:52] <AbbyTheRat> not happy but well now
[18:52] <blockh34d> yah i spend a lot of time depressed
[18:52] <AbbyTheRat> I Went thou 3 different bugs.. but yeah, I shook the cold buf off
[18:52] <blockh34d> i'm not sure if its me or the world or both
[18:52] <blockh34d> i try to focus on something creative, seems to help a little
[18:53] <blockh34d> and pets
[18:53] <AbbyTheRat> mine was caused by a nightmare
[18:53] <blockh34d> i almost never remember my dreams, i'm so glad
[18:53] <blockh34d> when i do they are really disturbing
[18:53] <AbbyTheRat> I rarely do
[18:53] <AbbyTheRat> usually I do if I get woken up before it ends
[18:54] * shiftplusone likes bad dreams
[18:54] <blockh34d> i can't even begin to describe them in a family friendly channel
[18:54] <shiftplusone> such a relief when you wake up
[18:54] <AbbyTheRat> which sucks cause that can happen with nightmares
[18:54] <AbbyTheRat> usually.. it is, shiftplusone but my nightmare was made worse by my other half reaction
[18:54] <AbbyTheRat> hold on..
[18:55] <AbbyTheRat> http://pastebin.com/MMtcULkt
[18:55] <Helldesk> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRsGyueVLvQ&hd=1 yay, Sony or someone holding the launch codes of their copyright violation hunting bots just took down a Creative Commons movie
[18:55] <blockh34d> shiftplusone: i never really wake up from my nightmares, they are sort of like cynical commentary on reality for me. Life is rather nightmarish anymore, its sad but true... Doesn't take much to make it really dark
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[18:58] <blockh34d> thats a pretty weird dream Abby
[18:59] <AbbyTheRat> horrible
[18:59] <blockh34d> i'd tell you about mine but i'd rather not, they're dark and infectious
[18:59] <AbbyTheRat> made worse by my other half reaction x_x
[18:59] <shiftplusone> idn, my nightmares don't tend to be too over the top, just an exaggerated reflection of whatever troubles me. In high school, all my dreams were about not handing in assignments (because I never did). When someone is having health issues, I get nightmares about the worst case scenario there. In any case, I find them pretty helpful in understanding my subconscious mind.
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[18:59] <AbbyTheRat> I've had those dreams too but those don't tend to be emotional like that nightmare
[18:59] <blockh34d> you know normal rockwell paintings?
[18:59] <AbbyTheRat> idn?
[18:59] <AbbyTheRat> I don't ?
[19:00] <blockh34d> very surreal paintings of 'Americana!' from maybe 50s etc
[19:00] <blockh34d> family of Beaver Cleaver types sitting down for thanks giving, maybe kids palying baseball, etc
[19:00] <blockh34d> to get the dream you have to know these images, but i'm sure you've seen his work its everywhere
[19:01] <blockh34d> sec
[19:01] <AbbyTheRat> Yeah, I know what sparked that dream, actually
[19:01] <blockh34d> http://0.tqn.com/d/arthistory/1/0/r/1/1/Norman-Rockwell-Freedom-from-Want-1943.jpg
[19:02] <AbbyTheRat> still, it wasn't pleasent.. waking up feeling out of breath and that it feels like you've just been crying, heart torn and feeling extremely lonely
[19:02] <AbbyTheRat> only to have your other half tell you go away when you just wanted to hold her close, and be reminded it wasn't real
[19:02] <blockh34d> my last one was of basically that scene except everyones a cannibal
[19:02] <blockh34d> otherwise the exact same... they're just eating people in my nightmare
[19:03] <blockh34d> the guy on the left, directly left of the turkey now... his face...
[19:03] <blockh34d> another one, everything everywhere was inticately constructed out of dead bodies
[19:03] <blockh34d> thats how i learned roman concrete very likely contained the bones of the people they killed
[19:03] <shiftplusone> probably best not to get any more graphic in here.
[19:04] <blockh34d> yes
[19:04] <AbbyTheRat> ShiftPlusOne beat me to mention it o_o
[19:04] <AbbyTheRat> but I've had dreams like that as well, it rarely bothers me anyway
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[19:06] <AbbyTheRat> and certianly don't remember them much either.
[19:07] <AbbyTheRat> my favorite dreams is when I'm flying and in control
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[19:08] <shiftplusone> ah, good ol' flying lucid dreams.
[19:08] <MProg> when I fall and hit the ground I don't wake up... am I strange ? :s
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[19:08] <AbbyTheRat> no, you're just dead
[19:08] <MProg> lol
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[19:09] <MProg> I just don't feel the impact
[19:09] <MProg> and the dream goes on
[19:09] <AbbyTheRat> mhm
[19:10] <AbbyTheRat> yeah, doesn't make you strange :)
[19:10] <MProg> :)
[19:10] <shiftplusone> Hmm, anyone here experienced sleep paralysis? That's a fun one. =/
[19:11] <AbbyTheRat> yes
[19:11] <MProg> trying to move but can't ?
[19:11] <AbbyTheRat> yep
[19:11] <MProg> like trying to run, but not getting anywhere ?
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[19:11] <AbbyTheRat> there's a signal in the brain that "paralysis" you during certain stages of the sleep cycle
[19:11] <MProg> I think that's supposed to mean something :p
[19:12] <shiftplusone> MProg, usually accompanied by feeling of inability to breath and presence in the room. Often how people come up with visits from demons and alien abductions.
[19:12] <AbbyTheRat> sometimes and it's terrifying for people who had or suffers from this
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[19:12] <AbbyTheRat> it's where the brain is half awake state and half asleep state
[19:12] <blockh34d> i had something like that once when i had a flue
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[19:12] <blockh34d> flu even
[19:13] <blockh34d> i felt like my arms were tied to my chest and i couldnt move at all
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[19:13] <MProg> :/
[19:13] <AbbyTheRat> lots of things can cause it, sickness can, there's Apnea.. that's a common cause for sleep paralysis
[19:14] <blockh34d> so any thoughts on underwater PI's?
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[19:14] <shiftplusone> blockh34d, why?
[19:14] <blockh34d> i think about maybe encasing the whole thing in about a half inch of silicone
[19:14] <shiftplusone> there are plenty of cases for that sort of thing, or even just special sprays.
[19:14] <blockh34d> so i can have wearable device that is durable to weather
[19:14] <blockh34d> what kind of sprays?
[19:15] <AbbyTheRat> oh yeah.. just a spray is good for making something rainproof
[19:15] <blockh34d> wearable to weather and possibly diving
[19:15] <AbbyTheRat> it's a hydro.. .. I forgot
[19:15] <AbbyTheRat> *googles*
[19:15] <shiftplusone> idn, google waterproof electronics sprary or something like that
[19:15] <shiftplusone> phobic?
[19:15] <blockh34d> gotcha ok thanks
[19:15] <MProg> I'd like to make a submarine with a pi
[19:15] <shiftplusone> *spray
[19:15] <AbbyTheRat> it's like neverwet
[19:15] <AbbyTheRat> it is neverwet.. hold on..
[19:15] <MProg> I'm not sure how to communicate with it though
[19:15] <AbbyTheRat> a superhydrophobic coating
[19:16] <blockh34d> thanks AbbyTheRat, if its hard to find i'll google it up no worries
[19:16] <MProg> I doubt high frequencies like wifi would work very well under water :/
[19:16] <blockh34d> MProg: audio travels well
[19:16] <blockh34d> maybe ELF?
[19:16] <shiftplusone> MProg, hm.... could be a fun project for kids.... Find a way to adjust the pressure in a bottle to make it sink, add a little rudder and motor..... hmm...
[19:16] <blockh34d> yah that would be fun i think
[19:17] <blockh34d> also if you soaked a pi but then dried it out good, think it would still work? I'm optimistic it would
[19:17] <AbbyTheRat> we should give that idea to Raynerd :)
[19:17] <blockh34d> yes hows his class doing with their mouldy chocolate?
[19:17] <shiftplusone> blockh34d, as long as there are no water droplets trapped under the SoC or RAM, I don't see why not.
[19:18] <shiftplusone> Mouldy chocolate? what's he doing now?
[19:18] <AbbyTheRat> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBuTiCdHiWE <- something like this, blockh34d / shiftplusone ?
[19:18] <blockh34d> yah my experience has been a lot of electronics are more water resistant than i would have initially guessed
[19:18] <blockh34d> shiftplusone: its a game his kids came up with i guess they play it on notepaper to pass the time
[19:19] <blockh34d> Raynerd wrote a version in pygame, with a little help from Abby and myself
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[19:19] <blockh34d> i think he should put it on pistore, then they'll know how to create an app and release it for broader distrobution
[19:19] <blockh34d> its very basic but it is playable
[19:19] <shiftplusone> where does the chocolate come in though?
[19:19] <blockh34d> no idea
[19:19] <blockh34d> its just what they call it
[19:19] <shiftplusone> blockh34d, it's usually the mechanicalish parts that get damaged, like speaker or microphone, electronics don't really care much about water. It's not very conductive anyway.
[19:19] <AbbyTheRat> yeah, that reminds me, you jerk! Instead of creating a new variable for padding, you reused the height value!
[19:20] <AbbyTheRat> it took me a long time to figure out what you were doing too, blockh34d :P
[19:20] <blockh34d> haha well sure i wanted it to pad exactly one height so why not!
[19:20] <AbbyTheRat> yeah but then what happens if Raynerd wanted to make just the padding bigger?
[19:20] <blockh34d> magic
[19:20] <blockh34d> its all you need
[19:21] <blockh34d> height + magic
[19:21] <AbbyTheRat> or add more padding on the bottom, by making a new variable, it easier to adjust :P
[19:21] <blockh34d> yah i was trying to walk him through OOPs structure
[19:21] <AbbyTheRat> very confusing :P
[19:21] <blockh34d> so he could put all his globals into one container class
[19:21] <AbbyTheRat> mhm, too much too fast
[19:21] <blockh34d> until then it felt like he was pushing global overload so i was trying to keep it to a minimum
[19:21] <blockh34d> nono he was getting it
[19:21] <blockh34d> now he knows what functions do
[19:22] <blockh34d> and how classes are properties and methods
[19:22] <blockh34d> and how classes subclass other classes
[19:22] <blockh34d> i'm fairly certain he well understands these concepts
[19:22] <AbbyTheRat> mhm.. yeah, I think he does too
[19:22] <AbbyTheRat> he didn't understand the x,y concept at first thou
[19:23] <blockh34d> he didn't exactly get function parameter passing at first but once that clicked i think a lot of things fell into place
[19:23] <AbbyTheRat> he was horrible confused as to how you gave him that padding and stuff
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[19:23] <blockh34d> well it was a quick hack lol
[19:23] <blockh34d> more spaghetti for the pile
[19:23] <AbbyTheRat> it was and it made it a lot harder for him XD
[19:23] <AbbyTheRat> hell, took me a bit to get it
[19:24] <AbbyTheRat> then I Was like "oh.. he's reusing the heigh varible to create the padding"
[19:24] <AbbyTheRat> ".. that jerk"
[19:24] <blockh34d> well it was exactly one block worth of padding
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[19:24] <blockh34d> height was kind of not good variable name anyways
[19:24] <blockh34d> whats a height?
[19:24] <AbbyTheRat> I agree there
[19:24] <blockh34d> window? text? block?
[19:24] <AbbyTheRat> blockheight would of been a better one
[19:25] <blockh34d> or block.height/width
[19:25] <blockh34d> it should all be classes
[19:25] <AbbyTheRat> bare in mind, he's not working with codes he built from ground up
[19:25] <blockh34d> or cleaning it up is just pushing a boulder up hill, will always be ugly code without OOPS imo
[19:25] * shiftplusone is still trying to find a way to adjust buoyancy with a raspberry pi.
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[19:25] <AbbyTheRat> but modifying excisting codes
[19:25] <blockh34d> shiftplusone: fire off caps in an enclosed space?
[19:26] <blockh34d> caps/bullet blanks
[19:26] <AbbyTheRat> using compressed air, actually
[19:26] <AbbyTheRat> compressed air is heavier then expanding air
[19:26] <blockh34d> a cavern in the device to hold or release water?
[19:26] <AbbyTheRat> that too
[19:27] <AbbyTheRat> a cavern with half water should be roughtly natural buoyancy with ballest
[19:27] <blockh34d> AbbyTheRat: in the future if it helps just email me and I can decypher whatever code i have previously hacked together
[19:28] <blockh34d> you should see my real projects... the little one is 1500 lines
[19:28] <AbbyTheRat> expand the ballest to push the water out, to increase become postivety bouyance, reduce ballest to lower ballest
[19:28] <AbbyTheRat> blockh34d: don't want to :)
[19:28] <blockh34d> replace reduced ballast with compressed air
[19:28] <AbbyTheRat> I got my own project to work one, that I think will hit the few k lines
[19:29] <blockh34d> yah my game is many thousands across multiple files, its pretty absurd
[19:29] <AbbyTheRat> right now, it's tiny cause I'm just trying out different functions of what I want my alarm clock to do
[19:29] <blockh34d> coffee maker ftw
[19:29] <AbbyTheRat> so far, I Got google calendar working
[19:29] <AbbyTheRat> and I get the current weather from weather.com for my location
[19:30] <blockh34d> nice
[19:30] <blockh34d> i made a flash app liek that once for some advertisers they used it like a commercial between other commercials
[19:30] <AbbyTheRat> I think next, I'll work more on google calendar for creating some way of picking up predefined commands from events then storing it in a list on the pi
[19:30] <blockh34d> tried espeak?
[19:30] <blockh34d> pretty easy to get your rpi to talk to you
[19:31] <blockh34d> espeak testing testing
[19:31] <AbbyTheRat> kinda.. useless for me
[19:31] <AbbyTheRat> :D
[19:31] <blockh34d> it could verbally run down your schedule when you wake up
[19:31] <AbbyTheRat> kinda.. useless :D
[19:31] <blockh34d> like 'good morning, you have a meeting in half an hour with such and such'
[19:31] * shiftplusone waits for blockh34d to catch on =D
[19:31] <blockh34d> it'd be good for me since i'm so bad with names
[19:32] <blockh34d> oh right right
[19:32] <blockh34d> deaf sorry forgot
[19:32] * AbbyTheRat indeed is waiting for the penny to drop as well
[19:32] <shiftplusone> heh
[19:32] <AbbyTheRat> thereeee we go!
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[19:32] <blockh34d> well it still seems like a good feature :P
[19:32] <AbbyTheRat> yeah, I will admit it is ^_^
[19:32] <blockh34d> for me anyways
[19:32] <blockh34d> even for you, might be nice to sort of review the situation al ittle before you go in
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[19:33] <shiftplusone> Could install a PA system in your house, but I guess your neighbors don't need to be waken up with a robot reciting your schedule. >_<
[19:33] <blockh34d> like 'this guys name is whatever, he's married to whoever, they have 2 kids etc'
[19:33] <blockh34d> oh they already do
[19:33] <AbbyTheRat> maybe if I ever release my project work and horribley uncomment codes, I might add the feature in
[19:33] <blockh34d> HUMAN AWAKE AND COMMENCE TOIL!
[19:34] <shiftplusone> blockh34d, I am terrible with names, but people don't usually catch on that you don't know their names.
[19:34] <MProg> wait
[19:34] <MProg> alarm clock... deaf... how does it wake you ?
[19:34] <blockh34d> my pi with 2.5" lcd drove the lcd off pins3/5? and played 5 episodes a tv show on repeat
[19:34] <blockh34d> for the last 3 days
[19:35] <gordonDrogon> Hm. some school in Oxford has just won some boat paddling contest...
[19:35] <blockh34d> seems pretty stable, <3 pis
[19:36] <shiftplusone> gordonDrogon, wait, a school won a local sporting event? =P
[19:37] <shiftplusone> doesn't that happen... always?
[19:37] <nid0> even bigger news, another school lost that same event!
[19:37] <shiftplusone> oh dear
[19:37] <blockh34d> cant say i care much for sports
[19:37] <blockh34d> if it doesnt involve fire or nunchuks i'm just not interested
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[19:38] <AbbyTheRat> MProg: one, I'm not completely deaf, but even then.. there's virbrating alarm pads
[19:38] <AbbyTheRat> that I'm interested in wiring up to my pi
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[19:39] <MProg> ok :)
[19:39] <shiftplusone> blockh34d, so... this then? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-KMwZOHc94
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[19:41] <shiftplusone> Sorry , I don't understand that dialect of 'English', but it sounds like there might be swearing.
[19:41] <blockh34d> shiftplusone: haha thats nice
[19:41] <blockh34d> i've done that a good bit myself
[19:41] <AbbyTheRat> sounds on mute so no idea
[19:41] <AbbyTheRat> nor do I have my hearing aids in
[19:41] <blockh34d> seen the oops when a guy tipped over his fuel source?
[19:41] <shiftplusone> nuh, I don't really care much for this sort of thing.
[19:42] <blockh34d> its classic comedy
[19:42] <shiftplusone> You just said flames and nunchucks, so I had to youtube flaming nunchucks.
[19:42] <blockh34d> if anyone deserves to get caught on fire, its the guy with the flaming nunchuks
[19:42] <blockh34d> put blooper at the end of that search and it should come up i bet
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[19:50] <blockh34d> any idea the acceptable tempature range of a rpi?
[19:50] <shiftplusone> ambient or SoC ?
[19:50] <blockh34d> could it be used as part of firefighting appartus with the right housing?
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[19:50] <blockh34d> ambient
[19:50] <shiftplusone> eh, I don't think that would be a good idea
[19:50] <shiftplusone> if you have lives depending on it, then you should've be using a pi.
[19:51] * ppq hopes shiftplusone meant to type should'nt
[19:51] <shiftplusone> yeah, sorry
[19:51] <ppq> was that your inner demon speaking? ;)
[19:51] <shiftplusone> I don't know what "should've be" is. >_<
[19:52] <[SLB]> lol
[19:52] <shiftplusone> I am an import, but I think I got the hang of this 'English' thing.
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[19:53] <blockh34d> don't worry i don't think anyone does
[19:54] <blockh34d> the brits can't even spell color and they invented the language
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[19:54] <blockh34d> Americans no better, we've masacred it at every turn
[19:54] <shiftplusone> The Brits? You mean the whole English-speaking world aside from America? >_<
[19:55] <blockh34d> the ALLEGED world aside from America
[19:55] <shiftplusone> 'course, heh.
[19:55] <blockh34d> many of us are still waiting for the hard science to back up those claims
[19:55] <shiftplusone> AbbyTheRat, is colour spelled properly in Canada or without the u?
[19:55] <blockh34d> of a world beyond America
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[19:57] <blockh34d> i'm starting to think Plato is extremely overrated
[19:57] <ppq> "The problem with defending the purity of the English language is that English is about as pure as a cribhouse whore. We don't just borrow words; on occasion, English has pursued other languages down alleyways to beat them unconscious and riffle their pockets for new vocabulary."
[19:57] <ppq> - James Nicoll
[19:58] <blockh34d> "crousandwich" comes to mind
[19:58] <blockh34d> hamburger is fairly confusing when i think about it
[19:58] <shiftplusone> blockh34d, why? I thought The Republic had a few good ideas.
[19:58] <blockh34d> wheres the ham?
[19:58] <blockh34d> "Why do good?"
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[19:59] <blockh34d> prety horrible premise imo
[19:59] <blockh34d> its like saying 'why not carjack for a living if you can get away with it'
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[19:59] <blockh34d> i prefer Diogenese and Antithenese
[19:59] <blockh34d> Plato was also a bit of a liar
[19:59] <shiftplusone> meh, they're all wrong about many things.
[20:00] <blockh34d> he claimed to speak for Socrates and claimed to be Socrates star pupil but the reality is he invented words for socrates and was very possibly never even a pupil of Socrates as much as a child servant
[20:00] <AbbyTheRat> shiftplusone: with u.. and.. I have to go. I'm kinda in tears
[20:00] <AbbyTheRat> I be back later
[20:00] <blockh34d> have a nice day
[20:00] <shiftplusone> AbbyTheRat, sorry to hear that and I hope it's because of onions. Good luck.
[20:01] <blockh34d> I think Antisthenes is the true keeper of the torch of wisdom Socrates lit
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[20:02] <blockh34d> and he passed it onto Diogenese, who elevated the Cynics to a whole new stature, which enabled the Stoics to gain hold, who eventually influenced a guy named Jesus so much he started this whole new thing
[20:02] <blockh34d> and it is still alive and well, however the creations of Plato, Aristotle, their protegy Alexandar "The Great"? All gone
[20:02] <shiftplusone> blockh34d, haven't read his ideas, but from what I gather from wikipedia, Antisthenes was all about virtue ethics?
[20:03] <blockh34d> He was the creator of the Cynic school of thought, and it is rooted in Natural value of objects and actions
[20:03] <blockh34d> the idea that if something doesn't have a natural purpose its basically useless
[20:03] <blockh34d> like money can't feed or shelter you, directly, its only the mass dimentia that money is worth something that makes it work at all
[20:03] <blockh34d> and that makes it basically a lie and a liability
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[20:04] <blockh34d> many thinks are similar, status/power, even health a little, family connections
[20:04] <shiftplusone> That seems a bit silly. What the hell is natural value?
[20:04] <blockh34d> thinks/things
[20:04] <blockh34d> nature
[20:04] <blockh34d> say... a tree
[20:04] <shiftplusone> or a rock?
[20:04] <blockh34d> very valuable... you could make a house out of it
[20:04] <blockh34d> or a boat
[20:04] <blockh34d> or even weapons you hunt with
[20:04] <blockh34d> what can you do with money that doesn't involve spending it?
[20:05] <blockh34d> i guess it makes ok kindling
[20:05] <shiftplusone> so... chopping down a tree and killing animals is natural good?
[20:05] <blockh34d> maybe
[20:05] <blockh34d> it creates an open spot in the forest canopy for new growth
[20:06] <blockh34d> this can harbor different animals and give more species a chance at survival than would normaly occupy one type of terrain/area
[20:06] <blockh34d> diversity is strength
[20:06] <nid0> thats such a simplistic approach its unreal. what good is having a tree if you have no food and the only guy who has food already has a house, boat, weapons, and firewood but needs clothes, and the guy who has clothes needs a tree?
[20:06] <blockh34d> uniformity, no matter how strong it appears, always falls to the same magic bullet (Wahtever it is), and so its weak
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[20:06] <blockh34d> so grow some food
[20:06] <nid0> ta-da, money, a generic bartering tool.
[20:06] <blockh34d> it comes out of the ground
[20:06] <blockh34d> before money it was spices
[20:07] <blockh34d> before that it was military might
[20:07] <blockh34d> i say all that is useless and distracting from our point of life
[20:07] <nid0> money is just a phrase. when spices were the standard measure of bartering, spices were money.
[20:07] <blockh34d> so did Diogenese, and i believe he was and is right
[20:08] <blockh34d> for example Truth, the highest natural value commodity you could hope for, worth more than any amount of money or cinnamon
[20:08] <shiftplusone> no, before money, it was a sense of 'debt'. Money is a way to quantify that debt. You wouldn't go to your neighbour and offer him spices for a knife....what are the chances that your neighbour is willing to part with a knife for some spices?
[20:08] <blockh34d> i'll take one cup of truth over all the money there ever was
[20:08] <shiftplusone> Instead, he would give you the knife and you would 'owe' him.
[20:08] <blockh34d> why does he have to give you anything
[20:08] <SpeedEvil> Spices used to be damn expensive.
[20:08] <blockh34d> why would he give you a knife anyways? thats just asking to get stabbed
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[20:09] <blockh34d> if your neighbor made it, so can you
[20:09] <shiftplusone> blockh34d, if humans went around stabbing their neighbours, they wouldn't survive. Instead, they stabbed the people outside of the tribe >_<.
[20:09] <blockh34d> thats the inherit flaw of republicanism imo
[20:09] <blockh34d> eventually it runs out of ideas
[20:09] <blockh34d> and goes out on a stabbing spree (conquest)
[20:10] <blockh34d> and that honestly works out great, for the empire, for a while
[20:10] <blockh34d> but then you run out of people to stab, or people to do the stabbing, or something of the sort, and the whole thing falls in on itself since it was always held up by force
[20:10] <blockh34d> since it was a big pile of lies held up by our mutual mass dementia
[20:10] <blockh34d> so thats why, imo, natural order is best
[20:10] <blockh34d> let things be what they want to be
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[20:11] <blockh34d> to some people it looks like anarchy, just everyone doing whatever they want, but to me i say if thats the case, a forest is total chaos and i'm ok with that. A forest is strong, durable, valuable part of our world
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[20:12] <shiftplusone> The only natural order there is comes out of evolution. A tree has as much natural good as gold, a rock, mercury or a dollar bill. >_<
[20:12] <blockh34d> but what if i had a magic new idea
[20:12] <blockh34d> antigravity, or time travel
[20:12] <blockh34d> how much cinnamon and slaves is that worth?
[20:12] <blockh34d> who gets to own that?
[20:12] <blockh34d> its all absurd imo
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[20:13] <blockh34d> maybe theres a place in our world for money but i dont think that place is at the top of everything else
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[20:13] <blockh34d> right now i dont think there coudl be much debate that it is squarely on top
[20:13] <shiftplusone> sure
[20:14] <blockh34d> what if money decides its profitable to toss humanity into a wood chipper?
[20:14] <blockh34d> like they figure out how to recycle us into new money or something
[20:15] <blockh34d> if thats a plausible course of action for money and money holders to take, and it is, they'd do that, all day if necessary, then shouldnt we adjust the system before it comes to that?
[20:15] <blockh34d> and if so, why hasnt that happened already? Critical failures point to larger system collapse imo
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[20:16] <shiftplusone> a lot of 'ifs' there
[20:16] <blockh34d> you want certainty? look backwards
[20:16] <aberlin> I hope this is the right channel: Pi as Printing server: Hello, Im using a manual for cups, just need cupsctl --remote-printers to activate automatic discovery, but it seems like this is not possible anymore (https://discussions.apple.com/message/19202043#19202043)), Any workarounds?
[20:16] <blockh34d> but even that is up to the history book writers
[20:16] <blockh34d> aberlin oh i is i'm just WAAAY of topic
[20:16] <blockh34d> going to go get some work done, good luck
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[20:17] <shiftplusone> blockh34d, you're not off the hook yet. We'll come back to this.
[20:18] <blockh34d> haha excellent i love talking philosophy
[20:18] <blockh34d> maybe when theres no official 'business' at hand
[20:18] <blockh34d> aberlin i have heard of people having troubles pinging their pi's from other machines until their pi has pinged that machine itself
[20:18] <blockh34d> i wonder if maybe it could be a related issue
[20:19] <blockh34d> maybe you could tyr putting something like 'ping theapplecomphere' in the rpi's rc.local
[20:19] <blockh34d> but hold a second on that because i'm not super sure thats how you do it
[20:19] <blockh34d> and you have to be very careful messing with rc.local
[20:19] <blockh34d> fairly careful anyways
[20:20] <blockh34d> shiftplusone: what i said wont brick aberlin's pi will it?
[20:20] <blockh34d> not that it'd be bricked anyways but you know, kinda locked out of i
[20:20] <blockh34d> it
[20:21] <shiftplusone> won't brick it, but it would be stuck pinging instead booting fully
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[20:21] <blockh34d> oh well maybe you could help iron out what i meant to happen vs what would actually happen
[20:21] <blockh34d> does aberlin need a & at the end of that?
[20:22] <blockh34d> like ping 111.222.123 & ?
[20:22] <shiftplusone> better yet, use crontab
[20:22] <shiftplusone> and add -c 1 to the ping command
[20:22] <shiftplusone> and make it ping every... however long it takes to lock you out
[20:23] <shiftplusone> that's if your theory is correct and it will help at all in the first place
[20:23] <blockh34d> another very big if
[20:23] <shiftplusone> I think it's best to find the problem rather than come up with hacky work-arounds.
[20:23] <blockh34d> totally agree, not proposing it as work aorund more as diagnostic step
[20:23] <blockh34d> like 'did that fix it? ok thats a clue then, not a solution'
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[20:24] <shiftplusone> blockh34d, more of a note for aberlin's benefit than a criticism of the suggestion.
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[20:25] <blockh34d> sure, the clarity is helpful i bet
[20:25] <blockh34d> criticism also welcome
[20:25] <blockh34d> good for the learning
[20:26] * shiftplusone checks what the actual question was about >.>
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[20:27] <shiftplusone> aberlin, are you basing everything on that one comment or is that what you're experiencing?
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[20:28] <shiftplusone> aberlin, maybe ##cups should be more helpful. Make sure you have avahi working for other things first though.
[20:30] <shiftplusone> ah well
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[20:44] <shiftplusone> aberlin, I get the impression you don't care, but I just tested and found no trouble with cups, avahi and printer sharing.
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[21:40] <aberlin> shiftplusone: i was afk, avahi seems to be a soulution, i'll give it a try
[21:40] <shiftplusone> aberlin, you should already have it when you installed cups
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[21:41] <shiftplusone> aberlin, go to the printer configuration page and enable 'share this printer over the network' or something like that.
[21:41] <shiftplusone> Then it just showed up as an option on other computers running cups without me having to do anything fancy.
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[22:01] <AbbyTheRat> I'm back
[22:01] <AbbyTheRat> and I wish it was onions
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[22:03] <shiftplusone> =(
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[23:03] <majod> hi...i have a question about the 1080p playback, i never used raspberry but im interested into turning one into media center, is it actually possible? or it only plays some specific video formats
[23:03] <shiftplusone> yes to both
[23:04] <majod> so i cant count on it to play anything i put into it...like mkv files, xvids, and so
[23:04] <SpeedEvil> no
[23:04] <majod> ok thanks
[23:04] <SpeedEvil> It will be comedically slow for many file formats - slideshow.
[23:04] <majod> :(
[23:05] <SpeedEvil> I wonder about the minnowboard max as a more generic solution in a similar form factor
[23:05] <SpeedEvil> http://www.minnowboard.org/meet-minnowboard-max/
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[23:06] <SpeedEvil> (but not yet available)
[23:06] <shiftplusone> but keep in mind mkv is a container, not a codec
[23:06] <shiftplusone> most files you download are either h264 or mpeg
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[23:07] <majod> yeah i know...im just used to have media center, i already have wdtv live which plays absolutely anything, so i was wondering if raspberry can do something similiar
[23:07] <shiftplusone> nope
[23:08] <majod> ok, thanks for info
[23:08] <linuxstb> majod: The only important thing is whether the Pi can play your files. You need to check to see what video codec they use.
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[23:08] * linuxstb doesn't think he has any files the Pi can't play
[23:09] <majod> linuxstb: yes, but im not going to risk buying it and later find out it cant play something i download
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[23:09] <shiftplusone> http://wiki.xbmc.org/?title=Raspberry_Pi/FAQ#Video_and_audio_formats_the_Raspberry_Pi_can_playback
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[23:10] <majod> hmm
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[23:35] <Taylor> How should I approach making a bare bones ups to cover at most 5 seconds of no power?
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[23:39] <shiftplusone> http://www.hackerspace-ffm.de/wiki/index.php?title=Raspi_EDLC_UPS http://www.repairhub.co.uk/content/resources/raspberry-pi-battery-backup
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[23:51] <Raynerd> evening
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