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IRC Log for 2014-04-09

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[0:00] <blockh34d> ppq ardupilot looks like a great think for arduinos to do now
[0:00] <thomas_r> cuda
[0:00] <thomas_r> i wonder what the community is like with this
[0:00] <malfunct> cuda is very new
[0:00] <thomas_r> $59 is special price only for this community edition for personal use outside Korea. And the maximum order quantity is limited to one unit for one person. The ODROID Magazine will give you the full guide for it. http://magazine.odroid.com/
[0:00] <blockh34d> malfunct: you mean fixed pipeline like no shaders?
[0:00] <blockh34d> cause pi definately 100% for sure has shaders
[0:00] <malfunct> blockh34d, no programmable shaders
[0:00] <blockh34d> yes, programmable shaders exist on pi
[0:00] <thomas_r> no lego node farms then
[0:00] <malfunct> blockh34d, I don't know any specifics on the gpu in the pi
[0:00] <blockh34d> i have a folder of them
[0:01] <blockh34d> it can compile them at run time
[0:01] <blockh34d> on the gpu
[0:01] <malfunct> blockh34d, but it was only a couple of years ago there were very limited shader functions in mobile gpu chipsets
[0:01] <blockh34d> i think its on the gpu it compiles, not sure
[0:01] <blockh34d> very true
[0:01] <thomas_r> that is stonking for $59, though, i guess no 1080p graphics
[0:01] <blockh34d> i miss the days of coding your own 3d
[0:01] <blockh34d> opengl/directx takes all the magic out of it
[0:01] <malfunct> blockh34d, so it wouldnt' surprise me if the pi had the same sort of limited functions
[0:01] <blockh34d> used to be 3d was straight up mathmagician territory
[0:01] <blockh34d> nope, pi GPU is surprsingly up to date
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[0:02] <malfunct> well up to date as of what, 2 years ago?
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[0:02] <blockh34d> its opengles2 implementation is maybe a little unique but it handles it self pretty nicely
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[0:02] <blockh34d> well its got shaders anyways
[0:02] <shiftplusone> blockh34d, well, the GPU is open, so get the doc and start writing the control lists and shaders!
[0:02] <blockh34d> that did actually surprise me
[0:02] <blockh34d> yah going to actually
[0:02] <blockh34d> clever walked me through compiler setup the other day
[0:02] <shiftplusone> excellent
[0:02] <blockh34d> i just have a couople things to take care of out of town then when i return i'm rearrangin gmy whole place
[0:03] <shiftplusone> (check out #raspberrypi-internals if you're going to do that)
[0:03] <thomas_r> http://www.hardkernel.com/main/products/prdt_info.php - i'm trying to watch the first video on that page
[0:03] <blockh34d> so i'll have better developer station for cross compliling
[0:03] <blockh34d> yes i was idling there a while and will return shortly
[0:03] <thomas_r> onboard graphcs for the odroid :(
[0:03] <blockh34d> i expect to leave here any time and go finish my toil, then i'll be moving everything around a while
[0:03] <blockh34d> my home is disastrously unorganized
[0:04] <blockh34d> more of a jobsite with a cot
[0:04] <blockh34d> but its getting there, fixing it up over time
[0:04] <malfunct> looks like the rPi supports GLSL ES which doesn't seem to be quite capable enough to really do any gpu compute stuff
[0:04] <malfunct> (just summarizing forum posts there)
[0:04] <blockh34d> well nothing to say pi couldnt have custom extensions
[0:04] <shiftplusone> malfunct, for that, you'd use the QPUs directly
[0:05] <thomas_r> oh, and it has emmc
[0:05] <shiftplusone> like the FFT library is
[0:05] <blockh34d> just cause glsl es may not specifically support certain functionality like that, really no reason the pi wouldnt anyways
[0:05] <malfunct> QPUs? sorry don't know the acronym
[0:05] <thomas_r> i think i'm going to get an odroid - thanks whoever mentioned it :)
[0:05] <blockh34d> a cluster of number crunchers in the gpu
[0:05] <blockh34d> all they do is crunch arbitraury math
[0:05] <shiftplusone> malfunct, that part of the GPU which the bulk of the processing magic happens ( able to crunch through a lot of data quickly)
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[0:06] <blockh34d> each tile on the screen (32x32?) gets one or maybe two?
[0:06] <blockh34d> i think its one and sometimes two
[0:06] <blockh34d> and i think it draws up to 16 of those tiles at a time
[0:06] * osxdude|MBP (~osxdude@unaffiliated/osxdude) Quit (Quit: bye lol)
[0:07] <blockh34d> and they can share memory, somehow
[0:07] <blockh34d> magic
[0:07] * shiftplusone ponders whether to buy a 2TB hard drive for $100 AUD or not =/
[0:07] <malfunct> shiftplusone, so basically programming the GPU natively rather than through open GL, got it
[0:07] <shiftplusone> malfunct, yes sir.
[0:08] <malfunct> shiftplusone, beyond my abilities but useful to know
[0:08] <shiftplusone> an opencl implementation is theoretically possible, but it won't meet the specs.
[0:09] <blockh34d> when can someone get one of those bare pi's?
[0:09] <IT_Sean> "Soon"
[0:09] <blockh34d> can i get signed up for a beta program? my headset really wants to be using those
[0:09] <IT_Sean> Couple of months, i recon.
[0:09] <blockh34d> it would be so much bette
[0:09] <blockh34d> nice i can't wait
[0:09] <IT_Sean> And no, there is no "Beta" program... you will have to wait like everyone else
[0:09] <blockh34d> !!
[0:09] <blockh34d> oh well
[0:09] <IT_Sean> Indeed... I plan on picking one up as well.
[0:10] <blockh34d> i hope they get multi cam support ironed out
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[0:10] <blockh34d> i want to try out these ir picams
[0:10] <ppq> huh, they make a new pi?
[0:10] <blockh34d> but if its one or the other, right now its gotta be the standard picam
[0:10] <blockh34d> sort of
[0:11] <blockh34d> same specs but no plugs
[0:11] <ppq> i see
[0:11] <blockh34d> all runs to aribbon connector same as ram sodimm
[0:11] <IT_Sean> check the website for news, ppq
[0:11] <thomas_r> i'm not sure if the os is hardwired onto teh odroid though
[0:11] <blockh34d> thomas_r: i doubbt it is, seems like you have a lot of choices
[0:11] <thomas_r> see, that odroid u3 is more powerful than maybe half the laptops i have lying around the house
[0:11] <blockh34d> no fan either thats what blows my mind
[0:12] <thomas_r> blockh34d: yeah, that's what i'm thinking , xubuntu / android
[0:12] <blockh34d> you could probably shrink wrap that and take it underwater
[0:12] <thomas_r> hehe
[0:12] <thomas_r> it's small
[0:12] <thomas_r> did you watch the video?
[0:12] <blockh34d> no
[0:12] <ppq> and a new website, too
[0:12] <ppq> nice
[0:12] <thomas_r> one has a psp emulator
[0:13] <ppq> that thing looks like SO-DIMM
[0:13] <thomas_r> a guy is playing tekken 6
[0:13] <blockh34d> ppq: yah its same connector
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[0:13] <thomas_r> with an xbox controller
[0:13] <blockh34d> but dont plug into ram socket it warns
[0:13] <ppq> well, why invent something new :)
[0:13] <blockh34d> sure
[0:13] <blockh34d> thomas_r: yeah theres very nice emulators for pi too
[0:13] <blockh34d> i havent been motivated to try them, working on native code games
[0:14] <blockh34d> but i understand they work fairly well
[0:14] <thomas_r> i'm sure if the graphics were offloaded on the pi, it'd blow the odroid away
[0:14] <blockh34d> i plan to use odroid to process image data from helmet cams
[0:14] <blockh34d> possibly merge multiple images together, almost like HDR
[0:14] <blockh34d> then feed back to pi's to display
[0:15] <thomas_r> you know, crash helmet ar
[0:15] <blockh34d> so each pi handles one display and one camera but there's an odroid in th emiddle
[0:15] <thomas_r> 180 should be possible
[0:15] <thomas_r> 180 degrees that is
[0:15] <blockh34d> yeah i would love to get something like realtime google streetview
[0:15] <blockh34d> based on 6 fixed arrangement camera feeds
[0:16] <blockh34d> maybe mounted on helmet or shoulders
[0:16] <thomas_r> can't you just use two with a wide viewing angle
[0:16] <blockh34d> sure but i mean so i could look all around myself all the time, virtually
[0:16] <thomas_r> 6 seems a bit...overkill!
[0:16] <blockh34d> no i want to be able to see all around myself all the time
[0:16] <blockh34d> with this helmet
[0:16] <blockh34d> so it will have like a rear view mirror
[0:17] <blockh34d> that is super imposeded over part of the top of the display
[0:17] <thomas_r> mhh, can the odroid read os's from the sd or the emmc, or just the emmc?
[0:17] <blockh34d> no idea
[0:17] <blockh34d> i dont own any
[0:17] <blockh34d> and heres where you get into rpi's dominance
[0:17] <blockh34d> user base
[0:17] <thomas_r> aye
[0:17] <blockh34d> its why the other compromises are worth it imo
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[0:18] <thomas_r> 68 people in #odroid
[0:18] <blockh34d> thats not bad
[0:18] <shiftplusone> any of them active?
[0:18] <blockh34d> enough you can probably figure some stuff
[0:18] <thomas_r> but as long as it can run linux, the userbase isn't *that* essential
[0:18] <thomas_r> unless you're doing some funky hacking
[0:18] <blockh34d> agreed
[0:19] <blockh34d> but why else would you have an odroid
[0:19] <blockh34d> comically oversized case mods?
[0:19] <thomas_r> 1.7ghz, 2gb ram
[0:19] <blockh34d> i think someone should install an odroid in a classic tower server case
[0:19] <blockh34d> yah pretty nice but still probably got same write speed issues
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[0:19] <blockh34d> still has a lot of the same issues
[0:19] <blockh34d> pi's problem isn't really cpu, or even memory
[0:20] <blockh34d> so fixing those things wont fix much, long run
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[0:20] <blockh34d> imo anyways, who knows... seems like the foundation has a good plan they're working on, way to go guys/gals, keep it up!
[0:20] <thomas_r> i think teh best pi project i've seen is an old radio
[0:21] <thomas_r> it wasn't using a bakelite case, a wooden one - 1940's esque
[0:21] <thomas_r> http://www.instructables.com/id/Google-Play-Music-Internet-Radio-Raspberry-Pi-and/
[0:21] <blockh34d> yah that'd be a sweet case to start from
[0:21] <blockh34d> omg just thought of something
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[0:21] <thomas_r> quick, lie down
[0:21] <blockh34d> instead of putting a coffee maker into a computer
[0:22] <thomas_r> nope, no one active in #odroid :(
[0:22] <blockh34d> now pi/odroid/whatever i could put computer in the coffee maker!
[0:22] <thomas_r> maybe they're mainly eastern asian
[0:23] <blockh34d> i need to get used to GPIO pin hacking
[0:23] <blockh34d> so i can put some basic switches and buttons on my helmet an dhave them trigger different scripts
[0:23] <blockh34d> switch display mode etc
[0:23] <thomas_r> airwolf style
[0:24] <thomas_r> duh duh duh duuuh, dne duh dne duuh
[0:24] <blockh34d> i'll make it so you can plug in a xbox controller and use that to calibrate the display
[0:24] <blockh34d> i think about adding a Knight Rider led bar sweeper to the front thats red now
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[0:24] <blockh34d> like a cylon
[0:25] <thomas_r> http://magazine.odroid.com/assets/201403/pdf/ODROID-Magazine-201403.pdf
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[0:25] <thomas_r> this is actually a good read - reminiscent of technical magazines from the 80s
[0:26] <blockh34d> oh cool thnks i'll check that out
[0:26] <thomas_r> i almost got run over in barcelona whilst i crossed the road, staring at a car that had the knight-rider red sweeping leds on it
[0:26] <blockh34d> i think i'll have one of those u3's stuck to the back of this thing before its done
[0:26] <blockh34d> its hypnotic right?
[0:26] <blockh34d> lol
[0:27] <blockh34d> i thought it'dbe cool to put one of the led message bars on the front
[0:27] <blockh34d> so you could scroll a little text message
[0:27] <thomas_r> partly "OMFG!!! KNIGHT RIDER!" and partly "OMFG IT ISN'T A TRANS-AM!"
[0:27] <blockh34d> which should be illegal
[0:27] <blockh34d> i heard the hoff sold his personal knight rider car
[0:27] <blockh34d> recently
[0:28] <thomas_r> there's an article about connecting sensors to the u3
[0:28] <thomas_r> so, why not have weather / temperature sensors
[0:28] <thomas_r> wind speed etc
[0:28] <thomas_r> you could have a weather vane atop the helmet
[0:28] <blockh34d> perfect
[0:28] <blockh34d> ever watch ATHF?
[0:28] <thomas_r> huh
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[0:29] <blockh34d> theres an episode where Master Shake buys an eHelmet
[0:29] <blockh34d> and its basically what i'm making here
[0:29] <blockh34d> its horribley ineffective device
[0:29] <blockh34d> that you have to carry around a saline drip withile you use because carrying aroudn the twelve batteries leaves you very dehydrated
[0:29] <blockh34d> also a addon e-Aino piano backpack
[0:30] <thomas_r> you know, i'm actually freaking tempted to go get a u3 right now, it seems perfect in every sense
[0:30] <thomas_r> and i think i have enough lego to build a case for it!
[0:30] <thomas_r> if you want to really impress me, build something from fallout 3 / ne vegas
[0:30] <blockh34d> cool lemme know how it goes, i think about trying one out
[0:30] <blockh34d> oh yah
[0:30] <blockh34d> whats the fire stick
[0:31] <blockh34d> like flaming knife i think
[0:31] <blockh34d> shiska?
[0:31] <blockh34d> i could make one of those
[0:31] <thomas_r> well for $60, £10 more than the pi
[0:31] <blockh34d> my flaming nunchucks are not family friendly for this channel
[0:31] <blockh34d> thats really all i can say about them. they shoudl be a war crime.
[0:31] <malfunct> I don't like lego cases, seems bad to seal up a device that generates heat inside a good insulator
[0:31] <thomas_r> buld a big boy
[0:31] <thomas_r> fat boy?
[0:31] <blockh34d> haha i dunno that one
[0:32] <blockh34d> i didnt actually play fallout 3 all the way through
[0:32] <thomas_r> malfunct: yeah, it wouldn't be sealed completely
[0:32] <blockh34d> bethesda games always lose me soemwhere... just not engaged enough in the plot
[0:32] <thomas_r> blockh34d: in that case, you and i can't talk
[0:32] <blockh34d> hahah
[0:32] <shiftplusone> O_o
[0:32] <malfunct> I was really into fallout 3, less so in new vegas for some reason
[0:32] <thomas_r> fo3 was way better than nv imo. omg, i put lots of real time days into it
[0:32] <shiftplusone> how can someone not be a bethesda fan?
[0:32] <thomas_r> exploring every nook and cranny. there's a lot to be had in it
[0:33] <blockh34d> well i play their game
[0:33] <blockh34d> s... i j ust find them very boring
[0:33] <blockh34d> pretty... gorgeous... but boring
[0:33] <shiftplusone> skyrim wasn't fun to explore though. Too repetetive
[0:33] * thomas_r hands blockh34d a spade to dig an even bigger hole
[0:33] <blockh34d> like i thought borderlands was a way better fallout3 than fallout3 was
[0:33] <thomas_r> nah, didn't like skyrim, got bored, and hit delete
[0:33] <malfunct> strangely I think the story in new vegas is better than fallout 3, seems way more involved
[0:33] <shiftplusone> bah
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[0:33] <blockh34d> oh ok maybe i should try that out
[0:33] <shiftplusone> borderlands is the definition of pointless repetitiveness O_o
[0:34] <blockh34d> never even played NV
[0:34] <thomas_r> borderlands is interesting. the strongpoint about bl is the weapons, with fo3, it's the story line
[0:34] <blockh34d> well i liked it
[0:34] <blockh34d> fun with friends
[0:34] <shiftplusone> ah yeah
[0:34] <malfunct> I agree that borderlands is all repetition, I had fun with it though
[0:34] <blockh34d> like an updated gauntlet
[0:34] <shiftplusone> co-op is good
[0:34] <shiftplusone> singleplayer... not so much
[0:34] <blockh34d> and the variety of weapons is nice
[0:34] <blockh34d> yah i agree
[0:34] <blockh34d> i have to try the seocnd one out
[0:34] <blockh34d> i heard its better in lotta ways, maybe worht a look
[0:34] <thomas_r> once you find a weapon you like in bl, you keep it for ever
[0:35] <malfunct> the second one is better in many ways
[0:35] <blockh34d> i'm addicting to bezerker guy
[0:35] <blockh34d> punching people into acid clouds of nothing
[0:35] <blockh34d> exploding acid clouds lol
[0:35] <shiftplusone> my gaming friends are all rts nerds so I couldn't convince anyone to get borderlands >=/
[0:35] <kfunk> is there any way to determine the current clock speed without required root?
[0:35] <kfunk> without requiring*
[0:35] <malfunct> thomas_r, not in BL2, the power escalation is such that a terrible weapon a few levels up is better than the best weapon at the level a few below
[0:35] <blockh34d> kfunk woul dit be in a flatfile as an option?
[0:35] <blockh34d> like boot/config.txt or something?
[0:35] <thomas_r> what are the missions like in bl2?
[0:36] <thomas_r> i'm so behind on teh games
[0:36] <shiftplusone> missions? go to x, kill y, go to z.
[0:36] <kfunk> blockh34d: that only tells me the max_freq
[0:36] <malfunct> thomas_r, pretty much the same sort of thing as in BL
[0:36] <thomas_r> last game i played and really enjoyed? not sure. i'd liek to have more time to spend with dishonoured, that looked good
[0:36] <blockh34d> i heard the witcher was better than expected
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[0:36] <malfunct> the only game I've been playing lately is World of Tanks, and that is mainly because of doing it with friends
[0:36] <shiftplusone> loved the witcher
[0:36] <blockh34d> i should try it
[0:37] <blockh34d> i think my game will be fun
[0:37] <thomas_r> i enjoyed arkham asylum
[0:37] <blockh34d> its got a little world of tanks going on
[0:37] <thomas_r> much better than city
[0:37] <blockh34d> but overhead, 2d
[0:37] <shiftplusone> haven't got too far into the witcher 2... seemed much more combat-centric.
[0:37] <thomas_r> except for catwoman
[0:37] <blockh34d> and tanks vs choppers and anything else... tron light cycles, bulldozers, all in there
[0:37] <thomas_r> i didn't like the look of the catwoman model, but it works really well
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[0:37] <thomas_r> blockh34d: sounds like saints row 3
[0:37] <blockh34d> yah i shoul dplay that i hear about it a lot
[0:38] <thomas_r> it's really funny
[0:38] <blockh34d> yah i'm very cynical i think that game is too
[0:38] <blockh34d> it might be the next game i get
[0:38] <thomas_r> it's like gta's old sense of humour
[0:38] <thomas_r> but more comical perhaps
[0:38] <shiftplusone> as far as silly destruction goes, I don't think anything gets better than just cause 2
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[0:38] <blockh34d> i'm making a game about being a bird
[0:38] <blockh34d> it might be insane soon with this headset
[0:38] <kfunk> ah, cpufreq-info works
[0:39] <blockh34d> this headset might make it little bit like a new and unique experience in gaming
[0:39] <blockh34d> that would be awesome
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[0:39] <blockh34d> kfunk: cool i'll keep that in mind, i'll have to find this info out too soon for game stuff
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[0:40] <blockh34d> once i get birdlife simulation figured out, i'm gonna do sealife
[0:40] <blockh34d> then dinosaurs
[0:40] <blockh34d> dino would be good mmo i think
[0:41] <shiftplusone> what's the gameplay in birdlife? >_<
[0:41] <blockh34d> like low altitude, low-ish speed flight sim
[0:41] <blockh34d> but you can land anywhere, on any tree etc
[0:41] <blockh34d> gotta find food, find nest site, find nest materials, guard nest from other animals, etc
[0:41] <thomas_r> i wonder exactly what you'd need to do before this is necessary: http://www.hardkernel.com/main/products/prdt_info.php?g_code=G138760358261
[0:41] <shiftplusone> Oh, so you're ignoring the psychological pressures of being a modern bird?
[0:41] <blockh34d> also some pilotwings style air challenges
[0:42] <kfunk> shiftplusone: shooting them, I guess?
[0:42] <kfunk> a bit rude, I know...
[0:42] <blockh34d> like racing through rings and eventually maybe even stuff like traffic and train tunnels etc
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[0:42] <thomas_r> goat simulator anyone?
[0:42] <blockh34d> shiftplusone: well bird watchers may mess you up
[0:42] <shiftplusone> I was thinking more along the lines of whether you can build a nest or feed the kids you know
[0:42] <blockh34d> throw off your mojo
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[0:42] <blockh34d> yes you can
[0:42] <shiftplusone> sorry.... too much Banished >_<
[0:42] <blockh34d> and eventually you unlook better birds
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[0:43] <thomas_r> unlock? evolve my dear boy
[0:43] <mdev> raspi have any neat uses?
[0:43] <blockh34d> you unlock the better birds by reproducing as the ones you've already unlocked
[0:43] <kfunk> reminds me of good-old german class: "moorhuhn": http://www.kostenlosspielen.net/spielen/moorhuhn-original
[0:43] <mdev> I know it's used for mining but slow besides that isn't it?
[0:43] <kfunk> classic*
[0:43] <blockh34d> nope its unlocked because tehres so many birds
[0:43] <blockh34d> a penguin will not evolve into an ostrich
[0:43] <thomas_r> LIES!
[0:43] <blockh34d> but i want user to be able to play as both
[0:43] <blockh34d> haha
[0:43] <thomas_r> plague is so stupidly simple
[0:44] <blockh34d> is that a game?
[0:44] <thomas_r> great game, but does become boring quite quickly
[0:44] <shiftplusone> plague.... inc?
[0:44] <thomas_r> yeah
[0:44] <thomas_r> it needs...something
[0:44] <shiftplusone> yeah
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[0:44] <shiftplusone> mobile game, what do you expect
[0:44] <thomas_r> maybe if they could devolve by themselves, or like splintercell, someone could be the scientist trying to outsmart you
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[0:44] <shiftplusone> good to kill a few hours (all up), but no replayability
[0:44] <thomas_r> so, good agent / bad agent
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[0:45] <thomas_r> meh - a case for $4. can't argue with that. lego is more expensive
[0:45] <thomas_r> though, infintely cooler
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[0:46] <blockh34d> 3d print yourself some custom blocks
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[0:46] <blockh34d> i think i'm going to make a backpack harness out of sheet vinyl flooring scraps
[0:46] <blockh34d> feels pretty durable
[0:47] <blockh34d> but hmm... reall goofy.. maybe theres a less goofy option
[0:48] <thomas_r> omg, that pdf has an article on linux gaming
[0:48] <thomas_r> lots of retro games
[0:48] <thomas_sch> Heyho I didn't yet try the new open source gpu driver so I just wanted to ask how it compares to the blob (cause I couldn't find helpful information on google) does it support all gl extensions?how much performance loss (or gain) do you get right now compared to the blob?
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[0:48] <thomas_r> outrun / desert strike, monkey island...
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[0:49] <shiftplusone> monkey island! =D
[0:49] <shiftplusone> and day of a tentacle.... good times.
[0:49] <kfunk> mdev: used for mining?
[0:50] <kfunk> oh. people really do that. ouch.
[0:50] <thomas_r> mhh, i can't actually see any difference between teh u3 and u3 community
[0:52] <blockh34d> day of the tentacle! :)
[0:52] <thomas_r> omg yes!
[0:52] <thomas_r> one of the first games i saw on a pc back in teh day
[0:52] <thomas_r> was blown away by it
[0:52] <blockh34d> so fun
[0:53] <blockh34d> like the sierra games but with a funny sense of humor
[0:53] <blockh34d> some sierra games were kinda funny
[0:53] <blockh34d> larry, space quest
[0:53] <shiftplusone> =)
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[0:53] <shiftplusone> I didn't understand much of larry (vga) since I was like 6, but I did finish it >.>
[0:54] <ring0> zacken mac kracken
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[0:54] <blockh34d> didn't get a chance to try that one
[0:54] <blockh34d> the alien mindbenders i think
[0:54] <blockh34d> always sounded good
[0:54] <blockh34d> i used to love Thexder
[0:55] <blockh34d> i feel like thexder dropped the ball, it should be an epic franchise
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[0:55] <thomas_r> http://hardkernel.com/main/products/prdt_info.php?g_code=G135270682824
[0:55] <thomas_r> look at how small that is
[0:55] <thomas_r> http://www.hardkernel.com/main/_Files/prdt/2012/201206/201206221202528287.jpg
[0:56] <thomas_r> 1.7ghz quad, 2gb ram
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[0:56] <blockh34d> i still like the pi better
[0:56] <ring0> correct title was Zak McKracken and the Alien Mindbenders ys ;)
[0:56] <blockh34d> its got spirit
[0:56] <mdev> what do you use your raspis for?
[0:57] <blockh34d> http://s13.postimg.org/kvykdw2dz/IMG_2521.jpg
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[0:57] <blockh34d> also media playback, irc, some light development
[0:57] <blockh34d> python/gimp
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[0:58] <thomas_r> you develop lights?
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[0:58] <blockh34d> light sabers
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[1:00] <blockh34d> for space pirate ghosts
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[1:01] <shiftplusone> Wonder why hard drives with enclosures cost less than the hard drive alone
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[1:02] <blockh34d> thats lol
[1:02] <shiftplusone> so it's cheaper to get an 'external' hard drive, take out the hard drive and throw away the enclosure than to just buy the hard drive.
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[1:04] <shiftplusone> And again, I get gouged to hell for being in Australia.
[1:04] <blockh34d> thought of great name for my helmet project
[1:04] <evil_dan2wik> shiftplusone, ones outside an enclosure are more fragile. Plus, sometimes people break the hard drives and get away with an exchange on internal ones whereas with external ones, once it is popped, it is void
[1:04] <blockh34d> Day Vision Goggles
[1:04] <blockh34d> like night vision except they enable the wearing to see in full sunlight
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[1:05] <evil_dan2wik> My current laptop hard drive came from a 1 tb enclosure.
[1:05] <ShorTie> basic economics shiftplusone, supply and demand
[1:05] <evil_dan2wik> Only $27
[1:07] <thomas_sch> shiftplusone: because normally the hard drives with enclosure are slower than the hard drives you would buy for your pc
[1:08] <thomas_sch> because you can't get the full speed over usb2 anyway (and that's what most people still use)
[1:08] <shiftplusone> hmm
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[1:09] <shiftplusone> choosing one is hard =(
[1:09] <evil_dan2wik> The enclosure I got was USB 3.0, I use it for hard drives I have around.
[1:09] <shiftplusone> no data on how reliable they are and lots of conflicting reviews
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[1:09] <thomas_r> wow, hardkernel offer an 8-core board
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[1:10] <Taylor> I'm wanting to run three different bash scripts when tightvncserver spawns a desktop, but these bash scripts don't finish right away. I want them to start and then be left to run and the successive ones run
[1:10] <Taylor> how can I achieve this?
[1:11] <thomas_sch> shiftplusone: the reliability of hard drives depends on usage and manufactiaring.normally you can't trust this data anyway.a month or so ago there was the "seagate sucks" data revealed of some cloud provider and that got some controversy
[1:11] <shiftplusone> that's the impression I am getting of seagate
[1:12] <evil_dan2wik> shiftplusone, internal or external?
[1:12] <shiftplusone> either
[1:12] <evil_dan2wik> Laptop or desktop?
[1:12] <shiftplusone> just backups
[1:12] <shiftplusone> internal is okay, since I have an esata dock
[1:12] <evil_dan2wik> ah ok, I asumed you wanted to use the hard drive out of it.
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[1:14] <evil_dan2wik> My laptop drive is 2 years old. It was a seagate external drive and the hour counter maxed out at 8192
[1:15] <evil_dan2wik> The hour counter problem was just firmware on that specifice drive.
[1:15] <evil_dan2wik> but, 140 MB/s is excellent transfer speed.
[1:16] <evil_dan2wik> for a laptop*
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[1:16] <shiftplusone> whoops.... checking the SMART data... looks like one of my HDs isn't doing too well.
[1:17] <evil_dan2wik> just read the SMART data, only 1 bad sector, 1943 hard drive spin ups, 17 write errors, 72 read errors
[1:18] <evil_dan2wik> shiftplusone, what is wrong with it?
[1:19] <shiftplusone> you tell me http://paste.debian.net/92587/
[1:19] <shiftplusone> ATA Error Count: 147
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[1:21] <evil_dan2wik> shiftplusone, around 80 running hours ago was the last error, did you notice anything/remember what you were doing?
[1:21] <evil_dan2wik> also, do a self test.
[1:21] <shiftplusone> It's not even used
[1:21] <shiftplusone> which... short?
[1:22] <evil_dan2wik> any.
[1:22] <shiftplusone> yes sir
[1:22] <evil_dan2wik> This reminds me, I need a new hard drive for my linux box's raid array.
[1:23] <evil_dan2wik> 1 hard drive failed and now the whole thing is really slow.
[1:23] <shiftplusone> ..... which hard drive? >.>
[1:23] <evil_dan2wik> It was 2 drives in mirror mode.
[1:23] <shiftplusone> I mean, what are you replacing it with?
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[1:23] <evil_dan2wik> idk yet.
[1:24] <evil_dan2wik> It used to be a laptop hard drive and a 7k RPM hard drive.
[1:24] <evil_dan2wik> The laptop hard drive is the one left standing.
[1:24] <shiftplusone> any thoughts on this one? http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/330691427174
[1:26] <shiftplusone> # 1 Short offline Completed without error 00% 12685
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[1:26] <thomas_r> mhh, $25 postage for the odroid. that's a pita
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[1:27] <evil_dan2wik> the drive should be fine then.
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[1:30] <DMackey> Just in case no one seen this OR missed it : https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1985705009/pimame
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[1:30] <Demon_Jester> oh man
[1:30] <Demon_Jester> pimame
[1:30] * shiftplusone sighs
[1:31] <shiftplusone> I am such a hater when it comes to raspberry pi based kickstarters
[1:31] <shiftplusone> everything seems like such a scam
[1:31] <DMackey> I'll agree there... lets see what happens with this KS.
[1:32] <shiftplusone> Though the rewards for this one seem okay.... 8GB card for $15... could be worse.
[1:32] <ShorTie> just trying to make a buck
[1:32] <shiftplusone> nothing wrong with that
[1:32] <DMackey> as long as he's not trying to get rich off of it
[1:32] <shiftplusone> if I could monetize anything I do (other than work), I sure as hell would.
[1:33] <DMackey> Make money to support your own hobbies for sure.
[1:33] * shiftplusone puts up a $5 per question sign on the channel >.>
[1:33] <DMackey> Whats your paypal addy LOL
[1:33] <shiftplusone> heh
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[1:37] <blockh34d> lol so i cut up a cable right, rca, inside theres a yellow and a bare, for a video cable with a yellow plug
[1:37] <blockh34d> i'm connecting to adafruit 2.5" lcd, has barrel plug with yellow and white
[1:37] * shiftplusone listens to the story intently.
[1:37] <blockh34d> so i cut the plug off, a short cable on, yellow to yellow, bare to white
[1:37] <blockh34d> exactly backwards
[1:38] <blockh34d> i never would have figured, just had to cut it all open to get it right
[1:38] <blockh34d> seems like yellow to yellow right? lol wtf
[1:38] <blockh34d> its a lame story
[1:38] <blockh34d> but it happened
[1:38] <thomas_sch> so no one here tested the open source gpu driver (or runs it)?
[1:38] <blockh34d> i'm unaware of an open source driver
[1:39] <blockh34d> clever showed me his work, its a spinning triangle with colored points
[1:39] <thomas_sch> http://www.raspberrypi.org/quake-iii-bounty-we-have-a-winner/
[1:39] <blockh34d> really very impressive but not a gpu yet
[1:39] <blockh34d> yah but i think thats just for quake?
[1:39] <blockh34d> i havent tried it
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[1:39] <shiftplusone> it's not just for quake
[1:39] <blockh34d> oh ok
[1:39] <blockh34d> so whats it like
[1:40] <blockh34d> can you use it for all opengl stuff now? i should see how my game does with it
[1:40] <shiftplusone> but it's not meant to replace the current driver either, it's more of an example for people who actually know what they're doing to implement something properly.
[1:41] <blockh34d> oh cool thanks
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[1:41] <blockh34d> gonna have to check that out
[1:41] <thomas_sch> yeah and all I wanted to know was what extensions were supported and how it compared to the blob ;)
[1:41] <thomas_sch> (just for the ones that didn't see my question)
[1:42] <thomas_sch> I gues I'll have to compile it myself :)
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[1:43] <wooter> Anyone know a sane way to install linux-headers for 3.10.36+
[1:43] <blockh34d> guess so, let us know how it goes eh, i'm curious
[1:43] <shiftplusone> wooter, you're not using rpi-update, right?
[1:44] <wooter> yep, yesterday
[1:44] <shiftplusone> ah, then you might be better of just pulling the kernel source from github and using the headers directly from there.
[1:45] <wooter> Thanks, ill look into it
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[2:19] <edoceo> So, I've got this Pi but it's started freezing recently.
[2:19] <shiftplusone> got a multimeter?
[2:19] <edoceo> I've tried a new SD, with a new Image but it's just hanging
[2:19] <edoceo> << has multimeter
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[2:19] <shiftplusone> when it hangs, measure the voltage between tp1 and tp2
[2:20] <killercode> Hi everyone
[2:20] <shiftplusone> but as a quick sanity check.... how is it powered and what do you have attached?
[2:20] <blockh34d> hi
[2:20] <edoceo> Ok, back in a bit with that
[2:20] <killercode> does someone here have experience on c++ cross compiling for raspberry pi?
[2:20] <shiftplusone> killercode, yes sir.
[2:21] <killercode> great :)
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[2:21] <killercode> I'm pretty noob at cross compiling and eclipse (that's the ide i'm using)
[2:21] <killercode> and I believe I need some tips
[2:21] <shiftplusone> is this your own project?
[2:21] <killercode> yes
[2:22] <shiftplusone> many dependencies?
[2:22] <killercode> just a shared lib I got to use some zigbee devices
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[2:22] <edoceo> shiftplusone: between TP1=>TP2 it's 5.05V
[2:22] <killercode> the lib is compiled to run on raspberry
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[2:23] <shiftplusone> edoceo, doesn't sound like a power issue then.
[2:23] <shiftplusone> killercode, do you have a cross-compiler yet?
[2:23] <edoceo> crap, what else can I check. I've tried two different distros on it, three different SD cards
[2:23] <killercode> yes I can compile and it runs
[2:23] <killercode> now I'm into debugging
[2:23] <killercode> and that's when the nightmare begun
[2:23] <edoceo> It was working for a while, then I left it unattended for a few days/weeks - now it's hanging after running for a few minutes
[2:23] <shiftplusone> edoceo, trying older or newer firmware, checking if there's anything int he logs and so on.
[2:24] <edoceo> I can't even get logs :(
[2:24] <shiftplusone> after rebooting, they should still be in /var/log
[2:24] <thomas_sch> edoceo: you can mount it on your pc
[2:24] <shiftplusone> or take the card out and check
[2:24] <shiftplusone> but I don't think you will find anything there
[2:25] <thomas_sch> edoceo: what is connected to the pi?
[2:25] <shiftplusone> How much do you trust your multimeter? If the batteries are low, they can report too high. But 5.05V is a bit too close to what it should be to be a false reading.
[2:25] <thomas_sch> do you start a gui if not is there any console output?
[2:25] <shiftplusone> killercode, so what's the problem then?
[2:26] <killercode> well.. I'll show you a sample
[2:26] <thomas_sch> edoceo: try booting the pi without anything connected, wait and see if it hangs
[2:26] <killercode> I have a cost ZBinding * somevar
[2:26] <edoceo> This time when it hung, all I had connect was USB keyboard, but the LNK light was on when it crapped
[2:27] <killercode> All I can see its a hex value
[2:27] <killercode> when I try to cast it to something I can read
[2:27] <killercode> it says that faile to execute a MI command
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[2:27] <shiftplusone> so your issue isn't with cross-compiling but debugging in eclipse, I suppose.
[2:27] <shiftplusone> Are you debugging remotely?
[2:28] <shiftplusone> or.... what's the setup?
[2:28] <killercode> yes
[2:28] <shiftplusone> ok
[2:28] <killercode> I have a debian with eclipse and connected remotly to the raspberry pi
[2:28] <edoceo> If I leave the USB kbd disconnected and boot, so all I have is HDMI display it's hard to tell hwhen it hangs
[2:28] <killercode> using manual remote debug
[2:28] <edoceo> The cursor on the CLI continues to blink but inputs from USB are not accepted
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[2:29] <edoceo> And sometimes, if I'm typing while it freezes my last character will repeat 100s of times then it's non-responsive again
[2:29] <shiftplusone> killercode, I don't think I can help then. Sounds a bit like some eclipse-specific quirk.
[2:30] <killercode> :(
[2:30] <thomas_sch> edoceo: yeah that's why you just wait 10 minutes conenct a keyboard and see if it hangs or not :)
[2:30] <shiftplusone> are you able to use gdb without a fancy frontend?
[2:30] <killercode> any tips
[2:30] <killercode> ?
[2:30] <edoceo> I'll give it 10, back in a bit
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[2:31] <shiftplusone> killercode, not familiar with gdb?
[2:31] <killercode> not much... just basic stuff like printing vars or something
[2:31] <killercode> stepping
[2:31] <killercode> set breakpoints
[2:31] <Smrtz> If I need to read a 5v signal, and I use GPIO0 and GPIO2, will that blow the board?
[2:31] <evil_dan2wik> edoceo, try running something that updates constantly
[2:31] <shiftplusone> sounds like enough for me
[2:31] <evil_dan2wik> like 'top'
[2:31] <thomas_sch> edoceo: oh and they "last key is repeated 100s of times" is a power supply issue
[2:32] <blockh34d> another pic of circuithead http://postimg.org/image/tdrfhfw21/
[2:32] <shiftplusone> thomas_sch, not always, but yes.
[2:32] <evil_dan2wik> yes, rule out the power supply first.
[2:32] <shiftplusone> blockh34d, you are now half machine.
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[2:32] <thomas_sch> shiftplusone: yeah ... normally
[2:32] <blockh34d> yes i am upgrading my old analog face
[2:32] <blockh34d> soon i will be all digital
[2:32] <shiftplusone> excellent =D
[2:33] <evil_dan2wik> blockh34d, Nerdy machine thing on face and the advertisements are for getting really strong...
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[2:33] <shiftplusone> I guess blockh34d is now the channel's official cyborg.
[2:33] <blockh34d> ?
[2:33] <killercode> another funny thing is that I'm not being able to read the value on gdb on the rpi... it says the variable doesn't exist :( altought I just steped on it :( oh man I'm screwed....
[2:34] <blockh34d> HUMANOID!
[2:34] <blockh34d> worst cylon ever
[2:34] <evil_dan2wik> blockh34d, on the image you linked, ads about steroids.
[2:34] <edoceo> thomas_sch: what's min mA for the PS?
[2:34] <blockh34d> hahah thats funny evil_dan2wik
[2:34] <blockh34d> it must have autosensed the nerdiness
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[2:34] <blockh34d> 'Tired of being a huge dork?'
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[2:35] <blockh34d> i think that might be ther nerdiest thing i have strapped to my face so far
[2:35] <thomas_sch> 700-1000mA
[2:35] <blockh34d> bbiaf
[2:36] <evil_dan2wik> thomas_r, is that the power supply rating or the draw current?
[2:36] <shiftplusone> Smrtz, not instantly.
[2:36] <shiftplusone> Smrtz, use a voltage divider.
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[2:36] <Smrtz> shiftplusone, Ok, thanks.
[2:36] <Smrtz> shiftplusone, are there gpio pins that can support it?
[2:37] <shiftplusone> not officially, no.
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[2:37] <evil_dan2wik> 5v on the IO pins will do damage over time. It may work for prototyping but blow later on
[2:37] <thomas_sch> evil_dan2wik: it's the drawn current (depending on the peripherals that are connected) at least if we can trust http://www.raspberrypi.org/help/faqs/ ;) I only got 1A power supplies so I never really checked what the min is
[2:37] <shiftplusone> the pi was designed with 5v tolerance in mind for some very specific applications, but this is not one of them and the official stance is that the pi is not 5v tolerant at all.
[2:38] <evil_dan2wik> The RPi only uses 5v for powering the external devices right
[2:38] <evil_dan2wik> ?
[2:38] <Smrtz> shiftplusone, ahh, great! thanks for the help.
[2:39] <shiftplusone> I am not 100% sure. It works fine on 3.3v if you don't need hdmi or USB, but there are some 5v lines going to the SoC and it is used for something
[2:39] <thomas_r> evil_dan2wik: ?
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[2:39] <evil_dan2wik> thomas_r, oh sorry, talking to thomas_sch
[2:39] <shiftplusone> but for all intents and purposes that I am aware of, yes, 5v is only for the external stuff.
[2:40] <shiftplusone> evil_dan2wik, the pi itself only draws about 350mA-ish
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[2:41] <evil_dan2wik> ok.
[2:41] <evil_dan2wik> What is power draw Model A vs B
[2:41] <shiftplusone> model a uses about a third less
[2:41] <shiftplusone> which is the power hungry NIC/HUB chip.
[2:41] <evil_dan2wik> ok
[2:42] <shiftplusone> things change when you overclock, especially the gpu though
[2:42] <evil_dan2wik> How slow can the CPU/GPU go?
[2:43] <shiftplusone> Hmm... never tried underclocking.
[2:43] <blockh34d> great idea though, for some stuff (cyboface)
[2:44] <blockh34d> prolly get more battery life eh
[2:44] <edoceo> I tried two different USB power supplied, 1A and 2A rated, my Pi still hangs after about 60-90s of runtime
[2:44] <shiftplusone> blockh34d, does it need USB and ethernet?
[2:44] <evil_dan2wik> edoceo, how fresh is the image?
[2:44] <blockh34d> edoceo: can you try pluggin it into a different kind of display? maybe if its hdmi, try rca, vice versa, see if any effect?
[2:44] <shiftplusone> edoceo, might as well just get it replaced.
[2:44] <blockh34d> do you have a picam plugged in too? can you unplug it if so?
[2:45] <evil_dan2wik> shiftplusone, probably not hardware.
[2:45] <evil_dan2wik> They do test it.
[2:45] <blockh34d> description of problem sounds like hardware failure to me
[2:45] <blockh34d> worth checking though
[2:45] <thomas_sch> edoceo: sounds bad to be honest :/
[2:45] <blockh34d> user tried new sdcard with new image
[2:45] <shiftplusone> evil_dan2wik, he said it was working fine and he tried different cards and supplies AND he has 5V on the test points... other than the firmware, I am not sure what else it could be.
[2:45] <edoceo> I don't have an RCA display :( This image is very fresh, few days ago I download this one, but I've tried an older image I had.
[2:46] <edoceo> And an Image that is known good in a friends Pi
[2:46] <blockh34d> either should at least boot anyways
[2:46] <evil_dan2wik> edoceo, do you have another pi that you can test things on?
[2:46] <blockh34d> gotta be a pretty old image that just blows up
[2:46] <edoceo> We swapped disks, but don't worry I used a condom :-p
[2:46] <evil_dan2wik> ah ok, so you did try another working image.
[2:46] <edoceo> Yea, on my buddies Pi, my images work in his, his working images hang in mine
[2:46] <shiftplusone> edoceo, not the best comment for this channel >_<
[2:46] <blockh34d> could it be a short in the case?
[2:46] <blockh34d> moisture or something some how?
[2:46] <edoceo> shiftplusone: sorry
[2:47] <edoceo> I'm thinking time for a new one - i've frobbed all the variables and it's still not working
[2:47] <evil_dan2wik> edoceo, do you have a TTL UART to USB adapter?
[2:47] <shiftplusone> np, just a heads up (I've been slacking at shaking my finger at people lately).
[2:47] <evil_dan2wik> or maybe try to ssh into the pi through network?
[2:47] <edoceo> evil_dan2wik: does that mean "serial" to USB thing? I do have one of those
[2:48] <shiftplusone> you could ssh in and tail -f the logs
[2:48] <evil_dan2wik> yes.
[2:48] <shiftplusone> oh serial is perfect
[2:48] <shiftplusone> make sure it's 3.3v logic though
[2:49] <edoceo> are you guys trying to get me to go this route: http://elinux.org/RPi_Serial_Connection
[2:49] <evil_dan2wik> yes
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[2:50] <edoceo> Oh, and I could disconnect my monitor and Serial into the device huh?
[2:50] <shiftplusone> yeah
[2:50] <shiftplusone> no need for the network either
[2:50] <shiftplusone> just the pi, an sd card and power
[2:50] <edoceo> So, I'll need a few days to try that out but it looks fun - maybe I'll have some info by Friday - thank all!
[2:50] <shiftplusone> good luck
[2:50] <evil_dan2wik> edoceo, if that works then slowly add things back in until it stops.
[2:51] <evil_dan2wik> If the Serial doesn't work then send it back
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[2:52] <evil_dan2wik> so, The GPU is able to execute code?
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[2:53] <evil_dan2wik> Or is that exclusively a boot thing.
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[2:54] <ShorTie> i would think the 'PU' part of it means it can execute code
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[2:58] <shiftplusone> evil_dan2wik, the GPU can indeed execute code
[2:58] <shiftplusone> More specifically is has a VPU and QPUs
[2:59] <evil_dan2wik> shiftplusone, a quantim processing unit?
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[2:59] <shiftplusone> vector and quad I think.... I am not actually sure what the Q stands for.
[3:00] <thomas_r> i think for £70, it's worth plumping for an odroid and eMMC setup
[3:00] <thomas_r> damn, 1.ghz quad core, 2gb ram! that's gotta be useful!
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[3:00] <thomas_r> 1.7ghz
[3:02] <shiftplusone> yeah, just checked, Quad Processor (QPU)
[3:02] <thomas_r> yeah, $25 shipping though :(
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[3:02] <shiftplusone> heh. crossed lines, I wasn't talking about that XD
[3:02] <thomas_r> heh
[3:03] <thomas_r> blurred lines... cue internet research on "the" brunette
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[3:05] <shiftplusone> evil_dan2wik, if you're interested in that sort of thing, https://github.com/hermanhermitage/videocoreiv
[3:05] <thomas_r> https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ninja/ninja-sphere-next-generation-control-of-your-envir
[3:05] <thomas_r> this looks interesting
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[3:07] <knob> Hello everyone... what do you think about de-soldering the USB ports on the rPi, then re-soldering them with short wires? Will there be any impendance/timing issues?
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[3:07] <shiftplusone> how short is short
[3:08] <shiftplusone> and 'course not wires are created equal when it comes to impedance, but I think it 'should' be fine.
[3:08] <ShorTie> what would be the purpose
[3:08] <knob> Short as in 1/2" to 3/4"
[3:08] <shiftplusone> considering that usb cables are quite long and can be quite terrible... I don't see any issues.
[3:08] <knob> The purpose is... the thing doesn't fit in the case I want to fit it... so I want to de-solder the USB ports... and solder some short wires on it...
[3:09] <knob> Ok... going for it
[3:09] <knob> :)
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[3:09] <knob> You guys are the best for voiding warranties... =)
[3:09] * shiftplusone is not responsible for any damage caused >.>
[3:09] <blockh34d> knob you may want to watch a ben heck episode
[3:09] <shiftplusone> ShorTie is though.
[3:09] <blockh34d> where he makes portable mame pi
[3:09] <knob> ben heck?
[3:09] <knob> googling
[3:09] <blockh34d> he does that
[3:09] <knob> ohh... on my way
[3:09] <blockh34d> youtube show i think that one is sponsored by element14 if it helps tarack it down
[3:09] <blockh34d> maybe bill heck
[3:10] <knob> googling
[3:10] <shiftplusone> revision3
[3:10] <shiftplusone> or is he not on revision3 anymore?
[3:10] <mdev> can raspi run ubuntu?
[3:10] <shiftplusone> mdev, no.
[3:10] <shiftplusone> mdev, for all intents and purposes Raspbian is the same thing though.
[3:10] <evil_dan2wik> knob, Not sure but you might be able to solder a 2x4 header on the board where the USB ports would be.
[3:10] <blockh34d> it really feels very comparable
[3:11] <knob> evil_dan2wik, hmm... not a bad idea
[3:11] <blockh34d> i put it somewhere between windows nt4 and nt5 in terms of desktop sophistication
[3:11] <blockh34d> definately usable
[3:11] <shiftplusone> w...w...windows?
[3:11] <shiftplusone> did you just.....D=
[3:11] <blockh34d> well if i had to translate it into another language/world
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[3:11] <blockh34d> lol
[3:11] <mdszy> Like, seriously. What the heck.
[3:11] <mdszy> Why will my Pi not boot ;~;
[3:11] <blockh34d> hahah
[3:11] <blockh34d> oh ok
[3:11] <evil_dan2wik> should be able to connect something like a PC USB connector straight to the board with a header on it.
[3:11] <mdszy> augh.
[3:12] <blockh34d> mdszy: you unplugged everything from it?
[3:12] <shiftplusone> mdszy, just a red light on or something?
[3:12] <mdszy> blockh34d: yes
[3:12] <mdszy> shiftplusone: yes
[3:12] <blockh34d> sometimes picams can i think get a static charge, messes up boot
[3:12] <blockh34d> or couuld maybe i think
[3:12] <mdszy> don't even have a cam
[3:12] <blockh34d> i am pretty sure it can at least mess up the picam because i have experienced that behavior
[3:12] <shiftplusone> mdszy, that would be an sd card or imporerly imaged card then.
[3:12] <shiftplusone> *improperly
[3:12] <mdszy> shiftplusone: I tested that, plugged the card into my comp and it looks fine
[3:12] <mdszy> let me just make sure somehow the boot flag didn't get unset...
[3:13] <shiftplusone> mdszy, the boot flag doesn't matter
[3:13] <mdszy> shiftplusone: wat
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[3:13] <shiftplusone> it's not an x86 bios, it doesn't matter
[3:13] <mdszy> k
[3:13] <shiftplusone> try pushing the card to the contacts with your thumb while powering up
[3:13] <shiftplusone> to make sure there's a good contact with all of the pins.
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[3:14] <shiftplusone> and keep an eye on the ACT LED.
[3:14] <shiftplusone> if it flashes even once, that's a good sign.
[3:14] <mdszy> shiftplusone: well I'll be durned
[3:14] <mdszy> that makes it work
[3:14] <shiftplusone> there we go
[3:14] <shiftplusone> do you have any label stickers?
[3:14] <shiftplusone> or sticky tape?
[3:14] <mdszy> well
[3:15] <mdszy> it looks like it's working better now
[3:15] <blockh34d> you could clean those contacts a lil better, and make sure the socket brushes are flexed enough they connect to the card
[3:15] <shiftplusone> you can add a sticker to make the card a little thicker
[3:15] <mdszy> shiftplusone: you're a poet
[3:15] <blockh34d> i like the sound of sticker power
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[3:16] <shiftplusone> lol
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[3:16] <blockh34d> i wonder how to implement eye tracking
[3:16] <blockh34d> with my setup ie already got something over both eyes
[3:16] <mdszy> okay, now it works
[3:16] <shiftplusone> blockh34d, take the thumb sticks from a controller and apply to eyes.
[3:16] <mdszy> I was really worried my GPIO plugins and stuff had screwed it up
[3:16] <blockh34d> perfect i'll get the glue
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[3:17] <mdszy> ugh, now I have to plug my GPIO wires in again.
[3:17] <evil_dan2wik> mdszy, is there any phyiscal damage to the card? I broke the corner off mine. It is now held in with paper and works fine.
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[3:18] <mdszy> evil_dan2wik: there isn't
[3:18] <blockh34d> shiftplusone: any idea fastest way for me to lores grab camera image and show on screen asap?
[3:18] <evil_dan2wik> ok
[3:18] <evil_dan2wik> clean the contacts.
[3:18] <blockh34d> i hear of 90 fps but i don't know how to attain that speed
[3:18] <shiftplusone> nope
[3:18] <blockh34d> ah well thought i'd ask, you're pretty on the ball
[3:18] <blockh34d> thanks
[3:19] <mdszy> could the SD card socket solder joints be bad?
[3:19] <mdszy> oh hey nevermind it's working again
[3:19] <evil_dan2wik> mdszy, should be able to do a vis check on it.
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[3:21] <shiftplusone> if you're going to fiddle with the pins, be careful
[3:21] <shiftplusone> I've butchered a connector pushing the pins out a little.
[3:22] <shiftplusone> it's very fragile
[3:22] <shiftplusone> ended up replacing it with a metal one
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[3:24] <evil_dan2wik> Not really any need to touch the inside of the SD card holder. It is usually the SD card not touching the contacts properly anyway.
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[3:25] <shiftplusone> lots of people have reported the pi magically booting again after cleaning the contacts and pushing them up a little.
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[3:25] <shiftplusone> but... I don't recommend the pushing bit.
[3:26] <evil_dan2wik> Also, I openned up this 128mb SD card because the lock switch came out and the card has internal write protection.
[3:26] <shiftplusone> there are cards where the switch actually 'does' something?
[3:26] <mdszy> oh my god why is the wiringpi documentation SO BAD.
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[3:27] <shiftplusone> mdszy, whoa...... blasphemy!
[3:27] <shiftplusone> what's wrong with it?
[3:27] <mdszy> http://wiringpi.com/reference/spi-library/ look at the "documentation" for the read/write function.
[3:27] <evil_dan2wik> this 128mb card was made in 2002 and was bought for $57
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[3:27] <mdszy> it tells me NOTHING about how it works or what it expects each argument to mean.
[3:27] <shiftplusone> look at the source code
[3:28] <mdszy> Why in the heck should I have to do that?
[3:28] <mdszy> ugh.
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[3:30] <shiftplusone> It seems like Gordon is not too familiar with SPI on the pi
[3:31] <shiftplusone> judging by the comments in the source code XD
[3:31] <shiftplusone> / Why are we reading it afterwriting it? I've no idea, but for now I'm blindly
[3:31] <shiftplusone> / copying example code I've seen online...
[3:32] <mdszy> Let's just go back to pi_piper in Ruby. Screw using code written by someone who has no idea what they're doing.
[3:32] <shiftplusone> That's stretching it way too far.
[3:33] <mdszy> Well maybe if you know your code is bad just say "This feature is poorly written and documented, please don't expect it to actually work."
[3:34] <shiftplusone> The code is not bad
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[3:35] <blockh34d> yah comments tell a tale, sometimes its a mystery
[3:35] <blockh34d> doesnt mean the codes bad, sometimes theres a lot of fingers in the PI
[3:35] <blockh34d> my comments are borderline psychotic
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[3:36] <shiftplusone> no surprises there
[3:36] <blockh34d> really isnt
[3:36] <blockh34d> usually some sort of highly inflamatory ascii art
[3:36] <shiftplusone> heh
[3:37] <blockh34d> if only i could get comments to make it into finished compiled apps
[3:37] <blockh34d> i have a special message for the decompilers out there ;)
[3:37] <blockh34d> its not FF
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[3:37] <blockh34d> i was really suprised someone said they decompiled my little goofy python app
[3:38] <shiftplusone> decompile python? not much of a feat.
[3:38] <blockh34d> like 'really? why? lol'... sent him a copy of the code, can't imagine decompiling something cause you dont want to write it
[3:38] <blockh34d> its not like it was limited or something
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[3:39] <blockh34d> maybe i should go open source, i dunno... i think about it
[3:39] <blockh34d> if i dont make up my mind by this time next year, I will
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[3:46] <shiftplusone> what's there to lose?
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[3:46] <blockh34d> i haven't ruled out trying to sell it
[3:46] <blockh34d> seems like other people sell worse apps on the pi store, and i am beyond poor
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[3:46] <blockh34d> i'm like, homeless poor
[3:46] <trohrt> Is there a .cbz comic reader for the raspberry pi?
[3:46] <knob> This de-soldering business is more difficult than I imagined. =\
[3:46] <blockh34d> i happen to have a home but only because my parents help a lot
[3:47] <blockh34d> knob yes i hear a high heat used with a rapid movement helps
[3:47] <knob> blockh34d, I am 750F right now
[3:47] <shiftplusone> knob, solder not melting and when it does, by the time you melt one end, the other is solid again?
[3:47] <blockh34d> like you keep the iron moving fast across the whole part thats being desoldered, and keep gradually rocking it out a little at a time
[3:47] <knob> My god... this is...
[3:47] <knob> shiftplusone, pretty much man
[3:47] <knob> I need like... an electric sucker... instead of the plunger type
[3:47] <knob> or a slave
[3:47] <blockh34d> and then when you're odne just head off to the store and go get another pi
[3:47] <shiftplusone> got solder wick or decent side clippers?
[3:48] <blockh34d> cause you probably bricked it
[3:48] <knob> I do have solder wick
[3:48] <knob> the "braid"
[3:48] <shiftplusone> nuh, the pi can take a fair bit of heat.
[3:48] <knob> never used it.. yet... lets give it a go
[3:48] <blockh34d> that will suck it up
[3:48] <blockh34d> like a candle wick
[3:48] <trohrt> anyone here used a pibow?
[3:48] <shiftplusone> you can add a little normal solder to lower the melting point
[3:48] <knob> ok... trying it now... be back pronto
[3:48] <blockh34d> finally, someones fixing problems with FIRE
[3:48] <shiftplusone> with decent side clipper, I recommend snipping the tabs on the side
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[3:50] <shiftplusone> heh.... the last question on xkcd's what if.... "I just moved into a new apartment. It includes hot water but I have to pay the electric bill. So being a person on a budget ... what's the best way to use my free faucet to generate electricity?"
[3:50] <trohrt> Lol.
[3:51] <thomas_sch> lol I would guess let it be :D you can get more energy out of the water flow than from the hot water (if you ask me :P)
[3:51] <thomas_sch> let's read :D
[3:51] <blockh34d> lol i have everything necessary to do that here
[3:51] <shiftplusone> http://what-if.xkcd.com/91/
[3:51] <blockh34d> and its no accident
[3:51] <thomas_sch> shiftplusone: yeah got it in my rss reader :D
[3:51] <blockh34d> harbor frieght sells a cordless drill powered pump
[3:51] <shiftplusone> excellent
[3:51] <blockh34d> in reverse it a water powered axle
[3:51] <blockh34d> the rest is pretty simple eh
[3:52] <thomas_sch> there is a great android app as well (store every comic and what if offline)
[3:52] <blockh34d> i never read the what if's
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[3:52] <blockh34d> they sound funny though
[3:52] <shiftplusone> and educational
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[3:55] <thomas_sch> mostly funny ;)
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[3:55] <thomas_sch> but hey if I every wanna bat a ball that's thrown with the speed of light I know what to do
[3:55] <shiftplusone> heh
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[3:56] <shiftplusone> 'course don't forget to hover over the images, as always with xkcd
[3:57] <thegorn> knob: get it off yet? :-P
[3:58] <thegorn> pulling a usb connector off is gonna be rough
[3:58] <thegorn> usually the secret is to get two soldering irons with really big tips :)
[3:59] <knob> Just now!
[3:59] <knob> Wow
[3:59] <shiftplusone> what worked best?
[3:59] <knob> Two things helped a lot... adding the little bit of more solder, as you said... and I Gorilla Taped the rPi to my table
[3:59] <knob> don't have a vise
[3:59] <knob> lol
[3:59] <knob> I think it came off nicely
[4:00] <evil_dan2wik> Anyone here running ZNC on a raspberry pi?
[4:00] <knob> Now I'm going to solder everything... and see if... if it's alive
[4:00] <knob> =D
[4:00] <knob> ftw
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[4:00] <shiftplusone> the first time I tried to remove a connector, I heated the whole board up so much that accidentally touching the board caused a lot of the passives to slide off the board >.>
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[4:01] <shiftplusone> and there was no way I could get them all and put them back on the right pads
[4:01] <knob> Holy crap yeah that was hot
[4:01] <evil_dan2wik> shiftplusone, burnt yourself?
[4:01] <shiftplusone> nuh
[4:01] <thegorn> lol
[4:01] <evil_dan2wik> k
[4:01] <evil_dan2wik> What version of debian is raspbian?
[4:02] <shiftplusone> I know at least wheezy and jessie are available
[4:02] <shiftplusone> http://archive.raspbian.org/raspbian/dists/
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[4:11] <Taylor> Can you see what package a given command is associated with?
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[4:11] <shiftplusone> dpkg -S /path/to/file
[4:11] <shiftplusone> you can use 'which command' to find the path
[4:12] <Taylor> Thanks
[4:12] <Taylor> Friend and I both have the same package but apt-add-repository doesn't want to work for him which it works for me
[4:12] <shiftplusone> I think.... let me double check
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[4:12] <shiftplusone> yup, dpkg -S works
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[4:17] <shiftplusone> evil_dan2wik, re the talk about hard drive reliability.... Boy, am I glad I decided not to get the seagate http://www.extremetech.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/hard-drive-annual-failure-rate-hitachi-seagate-wd.jpg
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[4:18] <evil_dan2wik> shiftplusone, my seagate drive is running fine.
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[4:18] <evil_dan2wik> also, the odd numbered seagate drives are bad, do not get them.
[4:19] <shiftplusone> yeah, but you'll find that about all hard drives.... it's not like they all consistently fail after a set period of time.
[4:19] <evil_dan2wik> odd being not a power of 2
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[4:20] <shiftplusone> why's that? Are they actually higher capacity drives scaled down in software due to manufacturing issues?
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[4:21] <shiftplusone> (I doubt it, but a random guess)
[4:21] <evil_dan2wik> shiftplusone, the 1.5TB disks are the same as the 1TB drives.
[4:21] <evil_dan2wik> Meaning that imperfections are more likely to show up on the 1.5TB drive.
[4:21] <shiftplusone> just forcing higher density on the same hardware?
[4:22] <evil_dan2wik> the disk is the same, the arm and other stuff is different and higher precision
[4:22] <shiftplusone> ah
[4:22] <evil_dan2wik> but the disk, if it was from a 2TB drive, it would be much more reliable.
[4:22] <shiftplusone> got it
[4:23] <evil_dan2wik> the 3TB drive uses 2TB disks btw.
[4:23] <shiftplusone> but yeah, I ordered some toshiba one anyway.... let's see how that goes.
[4:23] <evil_dan2wik> and the 4TB has it's own disks
[4:23] <evil_dan2wik> ask you can see by the graph.
[4:24] <shiftplusone> the hitachi 3TB on the other hand seems to be much more reliable than the 2 and 4 TB ones
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[4:24] <evil_dan2wik> Because the hitachi 3TB uses 4TB disks
[4:25] <shiftplusone> makes sense
[4:25] <evil_dan2wik> the disks are rated by the ammount of imperfections and the thickness, magnetic conductivity and reliability at each density.
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[4:26] <evil_dan2wik> so seagate just stretches it a bit too far.
[4:27] <evil_dan2wik> hitachi 4TB disks may be suitable for a 5TB drive with the reliability of a WD 1TB drive.
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[4:29] <evil_dan2wik> but there is also a factor of failure in the rest of the harddrive's hardware.
[4:29] <shiftplusone> bearings, spindle, heads, electronics and so on?
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[4:29] <evil_dan2wik> so, you could get the disk to be 100% perfect and then have the drive bearings go or spindle wear out.
[4:29] <evil_dan2wik> Yes.
[4:30] <shiftplusone> you can usually hear those issue when they start o happen though, can't you?
[4:30] <evil_dan2wik> usually.
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[4:31] <shiftplusone> One of my hard drives is making a strange clicking noise when coming out of suspend, but it doesn't sound like the head click or anything like that, so I have no idea if it's normal or not =/
[4:31] <evil_dan2wik> In my recently failed drive, it had no warning, it just disconnected from the system and spun down, no warning, no sata connectivity.
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[4:31] <shiftplusone> One of the other ops sent me to http://datacent.com/hard_drive_sounds.php but it doesn't sound like any of those
[4:31] <evil_dan2wik> record it and let us listen?
[4:32] <shiftplusone> Next time it happens, I will.
[4:32] <evil_dan2wik> ok
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[4:38] <shiftplusone> heh "I have an 80gb ide deskstar that runs as primary storage for my DNS, key, and SSH jump box for my home network. Theolder a drive gets, you need to put it into higher positions of authority and privilege due to its years of experience. It inverts the failure rate (which is mainly from burnout and boredom of routine)."
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[4:39] <shiftplusone> Another interesting graph. http://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/hard-disk-attrition.jpg
[4:40] <shiftplusone> Hitachi and WD are fairly linear, but seagate is just all over the place.
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[4:41] <evil_dan2wik> I would be nice if there was a comparison of each seagate drive.
[4:41] <shiftplusone> not easy data to get
[4:42] <evil_dan2wik> mmm...
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[4:42] <Jumblemuddle> So, I've been thinking about setting up my raspberrypi as a home server. I'm curious what kinds of things others have done with this setup? Possible using the i/o pins for something that's controlled from a web interface? Just trying to get new ideas.
[4:43] <evil_dan2wik> Jumblemuddle, I am using my Pi as an IRC bouncer as well as a monitor and logger for my solar system.
[4:44] <Jumblemuddle> That's interesting. I've been thinking about setting up a irc bouncer.
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[4:44] <Jumblemuddle> Which bnc are you using?
[4:44] <evil_dan2wik> ZNC
[4:44] <shiftplusone> znc should work just fine
[4:45] <Jumblemuddle> ok, cool. I'll look into that.
[4:45] <evil_dan2wik> I found that the apt-get version doesn't work well and is out-dated
[4:45] <Jumblemuddle> On a side note: How well do the bsd's work on the raspberrypi?
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[4:48] <shiftplusone> well enough for most things
[4:48] <shiftplusone> but I haven't used any for more than a few minutes, to be honest
[4:48] <Jumblemuddle> Fair enough, I'll go ahead and start with that.
[4:49] * shiftplusone just realised he fell for an April fools joke.
[4:49] <shiftplusone> Only now realised this wasn't a real thing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFyEqcVpKLI
[4:51] <evil_dan2wik> lol
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[4:53] <Jumblemuddle> Ooohhh... I could setup a usenet indexer :P
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[4:58] <evil_dan2wik> shiftplusone, de-solder all the parts and then re-solder.
[4:58] <shiftplusone> eh? what's this about?
[4:58] <shiftplusone> the video?
[4:58] <evil_dan2wik> yes.
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[4:59] <shiftplusone> yeah, I was caught off-guard and fell for it completely. And a few minutes ago had a ".... wait a minute..." moment
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[5:01] <evil_dan2wik> lol
[5:01] <evil_dan2wik> shiftplusone, also, that board is capable of amperage measurement
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[5:03] <evil_dan2wik> shiftplusone, https://www.dropbox.com/s/hu7l8sk1m5mcb00/harddrive.wav
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[5:04] <evil_dan2wik> Not health hey?
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[5:05] <shiftplusone> nuh.... it clicks a little, spins down and then spins up again?
[5:05] <evil_dan2wik> That is a 2 year old seagate 2.5" 1TB hard drive that I put in another case.
[5:05] <evil_dan2wik> It spins down and up like that constantly.
[5:06] <evil_dan2wik> all the data is there though
[5:06] <evil_dan2wik> it is just really hard to access it.
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[5:06] <shiftplusone> got it backed up?
[5:06] <evil_dan2wik> It is my backup.
[5:06] <shiftplusone> ah... that situation.
[5:07] <evil_dan2wik> although it is in my school bag all the time.
[5:07] <Smrtz> Can someone tell me why I should bother using "gpio export 0 in" when I'm trying to use a gpio pin as an input please? The man page doesn't make it clear to me...
[5:08] <shiftplusone> If you want to leave it open for use without being root, from what I gather.
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[5:09] <Smrtz> shiftplusone, but do I have to run that command as root?
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[5:09] <evil_dan2wik> It is rated at 750ma so I thought I may have been exceeding the usb power supply of my laptop but when I connected it to my desktop, it still did it, just not as much. The Ohms on the motor have dropped from 140 to 72Ohms
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[5:10] <thegorn> evil_dan2wik: your desktop is just as likely to not supply >> 500 mA as your laptop
[5:10] <tonsofpcs> so, it did the hub lost and re-found thing again.... with auto eth0 set in interfaces, it came back up at least...
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[5:11] <evil_dan2wik> thegorn, I took the drive out of the enclosure and connected to internal sata
[5:11] <thegorn> oh ok just checking :)
[5:11] <shiftplusone> afk
[5:12] <evil_dan2wik> I could probably replace the 6 driving transistor with larger values.
[5:12] <evil_dan2wik> transistors*
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[5:16] <evil_dan2wik> 55.1 degrees celcius is a good temperature?
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[5:20] <AbbyTheRat> shiftplusone: I've gone back to using Pycharm and coding on my main desktop
[5:22] <AbbyTheRat> not a slight on gneay at all, I like it, (aside the fact theme only affect the code pad and not everything else), I don't know.. I felt more comfortable with pycharm.. Just going to be a pain transfering files to pi once I start using the I/O
[5:23] <AbbyTheRat> Unnnllessss.. I network share a folder on the pi and work that way.. but meh, this way means I would have backups.. sorta
[5:23] <AbbyTheRat> and aren't you up late, shiftplusone o_o unless.. you're afking for bed <_<
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[5:27] <AbbyTheRat> tonsofpcs: that problem still. What did you try differently now?
[5:29] <shiftplusone> back
[5:29] <AbbyTheRat> shiftplusone: I tried to watch that video that you were like "wait a minute" on.. I don't understand at him at all >_>
[5:29] <shiftplusone> AbbyTheRat, 2:30PM here.
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[5:29] <AbbyTheRat> ok, right, I forgot cause I'm an idiot :D
[5:29] <AbbyTheRat> I keep putting you into the GMT timezone
[5:29] <shiftplusone> But you are right
[5:29] <blockh34d> AbbyTheRat: i got clearer pictures of me cyber-raking
[5:29] <AbbyTheRat> raynerd is GMT
[5:29] <shiftplusone> I haven't slept yet
[5:29] <shiftplusone> so it is nap time for me.
[5:30] <AbbyTheRat> blockh34d: awesome!
[5:30] <shiftplusone> (My sleeping patterns sucks)
[5:30] <AbbyTheRat> haha.. XD
[5:30] <AbbyTheRat> I totally understand, shiftplusone, really
[5:30] <shiftplusone> 'night
[5:30] <AbbyTheRat> Until I had kids and it still took a while
[5:30] <blockh34d> night shiftplusone
[5:30] <AbbyTheRat> my sleeping patten is ALL over
[5:30] <blockh34d> yeah me too
[5:30] <AbbyTheRat> not so much these days, cause you know, kids
[5:30] <shiftplusone> So I should get some kids to fix that then?
[5:30] <blockh34d> i think i'm on a 27hr day or something
[5:30] <AbbyTheRat> he gets me up in the mornings :)
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[5:31] <AbbyTheRat> I'm trying not to laugh at your helment, blockh34d but it's really funny XD
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[5:31] <shiftplusone> that helmet is comedy gold!
[5:32] <blockh34d> oh it really is
[5:32] <blockh34d> i know it too
[5:32] <AbbyTheRat> what was the project idea behind it again?
[5:32] <AbbyTheRat> I remember you had two cameras in it and a few other things
[5:32] <blockh34d> i keep thinking of the episode of ATHf called 'edork'
[5:32] <blockh34d> you should totally find a copy it will crack you up
[5:32] <blockh34d> yah theres a camera on each eye
[5:33] <blockh34d> i thought of the perfect project description
[5:33] <blockh34d> Day Vision Goggles
[5:33] <blockh34d> they allow the user to see in complete daylight
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[5:33] <evil_dan2wik> blockh34d, oh, thats not the DSI connector, that is the CSI connector.
[5:33] <AbbyTheRat> o_o
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[5:33] <blockh34d> evil_dan2wik: the RCA jack?
[5:33] <AbbyTheRat> soo.. what.. the most useless high tech goggles, ever?
[5:33] <blockh34d> yes exactly
[5:33] <blockh34d> extemely useless
[5:33] <blockh34d> also 'local telemetry'
[5:33] * AbbyTheRat cracks up
[5:33] <blockh34d> for remoting to your current location
[5:33] <evil_dan2wik> blockh34d, no, the Camera connector. Ribbon cable.
[5:34] <blockh34d> evil_dan2wik: oh i see yah i've always wondered about he other of those jacks
[5:34] <evil_dan2wik> I thought you had a DSI based display.
[5:34] <blockh34d> what is that about, you sound lik eyou know evil_dan2wik
[5:34] <blockh34d> nono clearly i have no idea what it is
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[5:34] <evil_dan2wik> DSI Display Serial Interface
[5:34] <AbbyTheRat> actually, it does have some use
[5:34] <evil_dan2wik> I think nothing is able to use it yet
[5:35] <evil_dan2wik> it does??
[5:35] <AbbyTheRat> remember the pokemon apirl fools day?
[5:35] <blockh34d> well i will not be the one to change that
[5:35] <blockh34d> someone will, not me ;)
[5:35] <blockh34d> let me know when they do though, sounds relaly cool
[5:35] <AbbyTheRat> just point out that there is a few ideas for it
[5:35] <blockh34d> although this helmet may have some uses
[5:35] <blockh34d> remote controlling drones
[5:35] <AbbyTheRat> one you could have it add info into what you're seeing
[5:35] <blockh34d> using guns without aiming them
[5:35] <blockh34d> seing behind/all around you all the time
[5:36] <AbbyTheRat> guns aimming is another idea
[5:36] <evil_dan2wik> blockh34d, there is a missing/non-existant binary blob that is needed for the basic interface, but there is still no hardware to go with it either.
[5:36] <blockh34d> remote control almost anything actually
[5:36] <AbbyTheRat> that too, another is argumenting reality, I think is the correct phase
[5:36] <blockh34d> also maybe a good 3d camera for some sort of movie
[5:36] <AbbyTheRat> so you could add in object.. turn it into a game and stuff
[5:36] <blockh34d> yeas augmented reality certianly
[5:36] <blockh34d> yes i want to take data from many sources and merge it all
[5:36] <AbbyTheRat> like how google map did that pokemon thing :)
[5:37] <blockh34d> so its part regular cam or part night vision cam, depending on how light it is, then mixed with a 3d depth map made from a sort of kinect device, merged with FLIR thermals
[5:37] <AbbyTheRat> you really needed to pi's to work this thing thou?
[5:37] <AbbyTheRat> two*
[5:37] <blockh34d> maybe merged with biometrics like a liedetector /vital /pulse monitor
[5:37] <blockh34d> yah one per eye
[5:37] <blockh34d> probably going to use a odroid u3 too
[5:38] <AbbyTheRat> do the talk to each other by any chance?
[5:38] <blockh34d> for a number cruncher
[5:38] <blockh34d> soon they will through the odroid
[5:38] <blockh34d> which is quadcore 1.7ghz btw
[5:38] <AbbyTheRat> hmm
[5:38] <blockh34d> even smaller than a pi
[5:38] <AbbyTheRat> another idea is having it display a UI hub :)
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[5:38] <blockh34d> what would that be?
[5:38] <evil_dan2wik> blockh34d, but will it do the same things as the pi?
[5:38] <blockh34d> i thnk about ui options
[5:39] <blockh34d> evil_dan2wik: no it looks inferior in most ways other than hardware
[5:39] <AbbyTheRat> yeah
[5:39] <blockh34d> rpi is better and i like it more but u3 maybe good for number cruncher
[5:39] <AbbyTheRat> although if you stick with the pi, I can see ways of improving the positioning of the items
[5:39] <blockh34d> yah i thin kmaybe UI could be all virtual
[5:39] <AbbyTheRat> Well, for UI hub idea, things like heart rate
[5:39] <blockh34d> so i see a keyboard in space, and it works if i stab at it, but its not there
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[5:40] <AbbyTheRat> your GPS location/map
[5:40] <blockh34d> oh right
[5:40] <AbbyTheRat> Elevation
[5:40] <blockh34d> yah good for that
[5:40] <blockh34d> yah it'll definately do all that
[5:40] <AbbyTheRat> simiar what google glasses do
[5:40] <evil_dan2wik> blockh34d, Can only have XUbuntu 13.10 or Android 4.x Operating Systems
[5:40] <blockh34d> everything mapping software does
[5:40] <AbbyTheRat> only for both eyes
[5:40] <blockh34d> yes and full view
[5:40] <blockh34d> i think google glass kinda just rides the side of your view
[5:40] <blockh34d> but i dont relaly know
[5:40] <AbbyTheRat> yeah, it does
[5:41] <AbbyTheRat> and for me that's kinda annoying... but I can't really say much
[5:41] <AbbyTheRat> I never used it
[5:41] <blockh34d> this is full immersion, more like occulus rift (but garbage by comparison)
[5:41] <AbbyTheRat> Anyway, back to coding
[5:41] <blockh34d> have fun
[5:41] <AbbyTheRat> but first.. I think my body wants to make a long distance call
[5:41] <AbbyTheRat> and send a message to the sewers, brb
[5:42] <blockh34d> pee-mail
[5:42] <blockh34d> its the canine standard of communication
[5:42] <blockh34d> the original fido-net
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[5:46] <AbbyTheRat> XD
[5:46] <AbbyTheRat> *codes*
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[5:55] <EnglishInfix> is compiling software on the pi typically supposed to take a minor eternity?
[5:55] <shiftplusone> several
[5:55] <EnglishInfix> cool, just making sure
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[5:56] <shiftplusone> something that takes 3 minutes cross-compiling takes an hour on the pi.
[5:56] <blockh34d> yup llvm took maybe 16 hrs to compile
[5:56] <genbattle> yea cross-compiling's a way better option if you can manage it
[5:56] <blockh34d> i hear qt5 takes 3 days? something crazy like that
[5:56] <EnglishInfix> having to build ncmpcpp from source because the community repository maintainers decided it would be a good idea to leave out the visualizer because it "took up space"
[5:56] <shiftplusone> https://github.com/bmanojlovic/rpi-cross-compile
[5:58] <evil_dan2wik> I compiled ZNC in 7 minutes when on my desktop it took 2 minutes
[5:58] <shiftplusone> (lets you chroot and compile like you normally would on a pi, but it uses a cross-compiler)
[5:59] <thegorn> i've been meaning to see if something like distcc can be setup with cross compiling
[5:59] <EnglishInfix> see i'm pretty new, i don't even know what cross-compiling is lol
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[6:00] <shiftplusone> you can use distcc for cross-compiling, thegorn
[6:00] <shiftplusone> it's what the archlinux folks do.
[6:00] <blockh34d> English you use another computer to do the compiling for your apps that run on the pi
[6:00] <shiftplusone> http://archlinuxarm.org/developers/distcc-cross-compiling
[6:00] <thegorn> that's the way to go then, cross-compiling is fun and all but autoconf scripts simply can't do all the work that they need to to reliably work
[6:01] <blockh34d> i guess you get teh same result but much faster.. have not tried it myself though
[6:01] <shiftplusone> thegorn, distcc isn't the fastest option
[6:01] <shiftplusone> the chroot hack I linked earlier is the best approach I have used so far
[6:01] <thegorn> oh, chroot hack is good too, that's true
[6:01] <thegorn> i didn't look at link but assuming that's the qemu-arm-static hack thing?
[6:01] <shiftplusone> yeah
[6:02] <shiftplusone> but it puts the crosscompiler into the chroot
[6:02] <shiftplusone> so the actual compile is native
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[6:02] <thegorn> yea, as long as you can actually run the configure scripts "natively" i'm good with whatever
[6:02] <shiftplusone> but you can still pull in the deps using apt-get
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[6:04] <shiftplusone> seeing how it copes with an xbmc compile.... thought I should go sleep.
[6:04] <EnglishInfix> my compiler has been stuck on "checking boost/thread.hpp presence..." for a while now. normal?
[6:04] <EnglishInfix> i'd hate to leave it overnight and find out it just derped on me
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[6:05] <thegorn> can probably check top to see if something is running at least
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[6:05] <thegorn> but i wouldn't think that test would take all that long
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[6:07] <EnglishInfix> wow, can't even start another ssh session. it must be completely slammed
[6:07] <shiftplusone> got a multimeter?
[6:07] <blockh34d> trying out stereo vision for the first time
[6:07] <shiftplusone> measure tp1-tp2 voltage if you can.
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[6:07] <blockh34d> n/m gotta setup another sdcard
[6:08] <blockh34d> whats fastest way to clone a card?
[6:08] <EnglishInfix> shiftplusone: nope. probably a better use of my time to find another way to get this compiled rather than wait for this
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[6:08] <shiftplusone> EnglishInfix, yeah, I don't think that will recover.
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[6:28] * blockh34d images
[6:29] <blockh34d> anyone know of something like an open-source 'truster' (voice stress analysis for detecting lies/deception/stress)
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[6:38] <evil_dan2wik> blockh34d, http://liarliar.sourceforge.net/
[6:38] <blockh34d> :) thanks that sounds perfect
[6:38] <blockh34d> i think it may find its way into my helmet
[6:38] <blockh34d> 'I can see that you're lying...'
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[6:39] <AbbyTheRat> I love getting into a coding groove
[6:39] <AbbyTheRat> I hate getting into a coding groove just before bedtime o_o
[6:39] <blockh34d> theres that tech someones doing too over amplifying the biometric variations of the video signal to detect heart rate etc
[6:39] <blockh34d> my code grooves supercede all other priorities
[6:39] <AbbyTheRat> blockh34d: it would normally for me
[6:40] <AbbyTheRat> but.. it affect my sleeping patten
[6:40] <AbbyTheRat> something that I have to be extra careful cause I really don't want to be tired and having to deal with Wally too
[6:40] <AbbyTheRat> I'll keep going for 30 more minutes then close it down
[6:40] <blockh34d> prolly write better well rested anyways
[6:41] <blockh34d> i mostly break more than i fix past a certain point
[6:41] <evil_dan2wik> blockh34d, you should search on google some more.
[6:41] <blockh34d> thats my quitting time
[6:41] <evil_dan2wik> All I searched was "Open Source Lie Detector"
[6:41] <AbbyTheRat> I'm not tired right now
[6:41] <blockh34d> i should but i like seeing what people already know about or are into
[6:41] <blockh34d> thanks for googling for me though
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[6:49] <evil_dan2wik> how do I update openssl?
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[6:50] <shiftplusone> apt-get update; apt-get upgrade and restart services using ssl
[6:51] <evil_dan2wik> is the one in apt-get the latest?
[6:51] <clever> some forum posts i saw say its the version with the bug
[6:51] <shiftplusone> an update was pushed recently
[6:51] <clever> but if you just close off the port for all ssl services in your router, nobody can do a thing to them
[6:51] <clever> ah
[6:52] <evil_dan2wik> shiftplusone, why is it that people say apt-get update; apt-get upgrade when I need to use sudo on both commands?
[6:52] <blockh34d> hi clever hows it going
[6:53] <shiftplusone> whether you need sudo depends on what user you're running as
[6:53] <shiftplusone> as root, no sudo needed.
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[6:54] <shiftplusone> without specifying sudo I am refusing to assume you're running as a user and letting you make the judgment of whether you need sudo.
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[6:55] <clever> blockh34d: just watching a bit of tv before i head to bed
[6:55] <evil_dan2wik> hmm yeah that makes sence
[6:55] <evil_dan2wik> how long since the heartbeat fix was released?
[6:56] <blockh34d> clever: cool, well have a nice night. Just saying hello. About to try out stereovision on my headset for first time.
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[6:56] <blockh34d> as soon as this other sdcard is done writing the image from the other eye's pi
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[6:56] <blockh34d> is eyepi a thing yet?
[6:56] <blockh34d> if not, i'm claiming that one
[6:57] * blockh34d googles
[6:57] <blockh34d> it'll be pi setup specific for eye tracking
[6:57] <AbbyTheRat> haaaaa. Once in a while, you type some code and be like why did you type that. <_<
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[6:57] <blockh34d> thats the point i was referring to earlier maybe
[6:58] <blockh34d> point of more damage done than help added
[6:58] <blockh34d> aka quitting time
[6:58] <AbbyTheRat> sudo shiftplusone GoToBed
[6:58] <blockh34d> lol or maybe just a brain fart
[6:58] <shiftplusone> =(
[6:58] <clever> sudo make me a sandwich!
[6:58] <AbbyTheRat> brainfart
[6:58] <AbbyTheRat> the code I had written was
[6:58] <evil_dan2wik> blockh34d, does it have to be my brain?
[6:59] <AbbyTheRat> if inputselection < 1 or len(self.calendarIDlist):
[6:59] <AbbyTheRat> I shook my head and moved on <_<
[6:59] <blockh34d> haha evil_dan2wik whoever smelt the brainfart...
[7:00] <blockh34d> i like the sound of pi project focused on eye tracking
[7:00] <blockh34d> that sounds almost... useful
[7:00] <blockh34d> some folks with 'handicaps' may find that real useful
[7:02] <clever> i can think of several uses, but some would need 3 cams
[7:02] <clever> to start with, i'm thinking 1 IR camera (with an ir pass filter, so it gets only IR) aimed at the eye
[7:02] <clever> and an IR led
[7:03] <clever> so you can spot the reflection moving
[7:03] <clever> and block normal wavelengths
[7:03] <clever> and a second normal cam (or ir if you want) that is forward facing
[7:03] <clever> plus a DSI display showing the forward facing camera, plus a menu
[7:03] <clever> blockh34d: then you could use your eyes as a cursor, and the menu would be overlaid on the real world
[7:04] <clever> blockh34d: how does that sound?
[7:04] <blockh34d> just tuned in
[7:05] <blockh34d> yah thats all awesome sauce
[7:05] <blockh34d> i think you're right on about the eye tracking
[7:05] <blockh34d> i was thinking opencv webcam on eye
[7:05] <blockh34d> but someone mentioned ir emitter
[7:05] <blockh34d> and now that osunds like big pimping
[7:05] <clever> using an ir camera with an ir pass filter would block out a lot of noise
[7:05] <blockh34d> yah i thought of some ui stuff similar
[7:05] <clever> so normal lights wont be an issue
[7:06] <blockh34d> floating virtual uis, perhaps printed out tokens, or just arbitruary objects identified as 'cursors'
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[7:08] <evil_dan2wik> The latest OpenSSL for Raspbian is 1.0.1e and still includes heartbleed
[7:08] <AbbyTheRat> evil_dan2wik: dart! Another patch still coming then
[7:08] <shiftplusone> no sir
[7:09] <shiftplusone> the version is the same, that can't change
[7:09] <AbbyTheRat> evil_dan2wik: and I think it's called leaking heart?
[7:09] <shiftplusone> but it's pached
[7:09] <shiftplusone> u6, isn't it?
[7:09] <AbbyTheRat> I stand corrected - http://heartbleed.com/
[7:10] <shiftplusone> what the hell is a leaking heart? XD
[7:10] <AbbyTheRat> was thinking of the heartbleed bug
[7:10] <AbbyTheRat> thinking it was called leaking heart <_<;;
[7:10] <evil_dan2wik> yes.
[7:10] <shiftplusone> then again, heartbleed doesn't make much literal sense either.
[7:10] <AbbyTheRat> the name is explained
[7:11] <evil_dan2wik> shiftplusone, the heart of the computer is allowing access of valuable memory to the public.
[7:11] <AbbyTheRat> Why it is called the Heartbleed Bug?
[7:11] <AbbyTheRat> Bug is in the OpenSSL's implementation of the TLS/DTLS (transport layer security protocols) heartbeat extension (RFC6520). When it is exploited it leads to the leak of memory contents from the server to the client and from the client to the server.
[7:11] <shiftplusone> No I mean the name without the context of the bug
[7:11] <Xark> AbbyTheRat: The bug is in SSL "heartbeat" feature.
[7:11] <AbbyTheRat> Xark: I can read XD
[7:12] <shiftplusone> as in "leaking heart" sounded silly, then I realised that so is the actual name.
[7:12] <AbbyTheRat> either would still work <_<;
[7:12] <AbbyTheRat> once you know where the bug is
[7:13] <AbbyTheRat> hmmm.. quick question, does list index start at 0 or 1?
[7:13] <AbbyTheRat> in python.
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[7:14] <evil_dan2wik> Hmm.
[7:14] <evil_dan2wik> You could find something really valuable with 64kb of memory.
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[7:14] <Xark> AbbyTheRat: Normally 0 to n-1 I believe.
[7:15] <AbbyTheRat> mhm, new bug! I'm just trying to get rid of the breaking bugs when it "basically" works, I'm going to bed
[7:15] <AbbyTheRat> could be fine.. could be a big mistake
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[7:17] <AbbyTheRat> okie.. that pretty much works now.. phew. Time to commit it and go to bed :)
[7:18] <evil_dan2wik> AbbyTheRat, sweat dreams
[7:18] <evil_dan2wik> Sweet*
[7:19] <AbbyTheRat> ... one of these days I'll figure out how to commit via Pycharm.. eh
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[7:26] <AbbyTheRat> this is most likely the most details I've ever added into a commit message <_<;;
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[7:33] <AbbyTheRat> ok, done! GOODNIGHT!
[7:33] <evil_dan2wik> AbbyTheRat, have fun.
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[7:41] <m4k10> anyone had any issue with the sd card slot bending your sd cards?
[7:41] <evil_dan2wik> m4k10, bending the card in which axis?
[7:42] <m4k10> along the pins
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[7:43] <evil_dan2wik> photos?
[7:44] <evil_dan2wik> m4k10, I sounds like a weak or bad SD card.
[7:44] <m4k10> http://s7.postimg.org/i0wwu21az/20130408_165547.jpg
[7:44] <m4k10> that isn't my sd card but what mine now looks like
[7:45] <evil_dan2wik> m4k10, did you get yours online?
[7:45] <m4k10> picked mine up at microcenter
[7:45] <m4k10> i agree though that it probably has something to do with the cheap factor
[7:46] <m4k10> I think I only paid like 8 bucks for an 8 GB
[7:47] <evil_dan2wik> I paid $57 for a 128MB sd card in 2002, it works fine.
[7:49] <m4k10> I've got it working again using a different card, just curious if anyone else had a similar issue
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[7:52] <evil_dan2wik> The SD card slot on the raspberry Pi follows the structural guidelines
[7:52] <evil_dan2wik> so, your SD card must not follow it properly, or the SD card got too hot.
[7:54] <evil_dan2wik> My raspberry Pi is running at CPU=58.3C GPU=57.8C LAN9512=64.9C
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[7:55] <evil_dan2wik> The LAN chip seems a little high.
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[7:59] <m4k10> I should try one of those half height micro sd adapters
[7:59] <m4k10> I only use to card to boot as is then everything runs from usb
[8:00] <evil_dan2wik> It would be nice to get a half size SD card of 128MB so that you can just have the boot partition on it.
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[8:03] <m4k10> if only they made those. that would be perfect
[8:03] <m4k10> may just have to dig around and find my old 256 MB card and use that
[8:04] <m4k10> makes more sense than using the 4 GB I am now
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[8:06] <evil_dan2wik> Well, you could store an emergency backup on the SD card incase the main OS USB is missing/broken/corrupt.
[8:06] <evil_dan2wik> An out of order screen thing.
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[8:09] <m4k10> that's true, never hurts to have a backup
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[8:09] <evil_dan2wik> The boot code stored on my SD card is enough to initialise the display and look for the USB. Is there a way to wait 10 seconds for the USB to be detected or boot from another partition?
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[8:12] <m4k10> I'm not sure but that would be nice. Right now I'd have to pull the card and use my laptop to edit the boot config
[8:12] <evil_dan2wik> yes.
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[8:13] <evil_dan2wik> Does the root filesystem need to be mounted to run scripts?
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[8:17] <evil_dan2wik> Why is there no test point for the 3.3v?
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[8:20] <m4k10> is there test points for 5v on board? I know the GPIO has 5v and 3.3v pins
[8:21] <evil_dan2wik> I know, but why isn't there test points beside the CPU chip where the voltage matters?
[8:21] <evil_dan2wik> CPU=56.2C GPU=56.3C LAN9512=67.8C
[8:21] <evil_dan2wik> The LAN chip is getting worryingly hot.
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[8:23] <m4k10> probably just assumed that if you needed to test 3.3v you would be breaking out the GPIO anyway
[8:23] <evil_dan2wik> USB devices just dropped and then kernel panic 3 seconds later.
[8:23] <m4k10> that doesn't sound good
[8:23] <m4k10> taken a look at the lan chip datasheet?
[8:23] <evil_dan2wik> LAN chip is reading 74.1C with the IR thermometer, CPU/RAM is reading 47.6C
[8:24] <evil_dan2wik> Commercial Temperature Range (0�C to +70�C)
[8:24] <evil_dan2wik> Industrial Temperature Range (-40�C to +85�C)
[8:24] <evil_dan2wik> which one is which?
[8:25] <m4k10> yea the lan chip sounds a little hot
[8:25] <m4k10> you'd be interested in the commercial temp range
[8:25] <evil_dan2wik> yeah.
[8:26] <evil_dan2wik> ok, temps are back down to 37C
[8:26] <evil_dan2wik> Plugging in.
[8:27] <evil_dan2wik> 3.3v on GPIO is 3.30v, TP is 4.72 volts
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[8:28] <evil_dan2wik> please no.
[8:28] <evil_dan2wik> It isn't finding the root USB
[8:28] <evil_dan2wik> It found the hub and ethernet but not the USB
[8:29] <evil_dan2wik> The chip itself is already at 57.5C
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[8:29] <evil_dan2wik> The other side of the board is 44.2C
[8:29] <evil_dan2wik> Not enough thermal conductivity?
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[8:30] <evil_dan2wik> I don't think the board is disipating heat.
[8:31] <m4k10> I'm not sure. I'm not able to check the temps of my chips. I read that some earlier batches had controller chips that ran hot and a few people bought small heatsinks for their chips
[8:31] <evil_dan2wik> Most of theirs ran at 50-60, not 60-75
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[8:32] <evil_dan2wik> Only started heating up when I installed ZNC
[8:33] <evil_dan2wik> well, started installing.
[8:33] <evil_dan2wik> so, ethernet and root USB loading the USB hub?
[8:33] <m4k10> hmm
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[8:35] <evil_dan2wik> The chip is at 69.7C and the other side of the board is 48.3C
[8:35] <evil_dan2wik> Definately not cooling properly.
[8:35] <evil_dan2wik> Probably going to send it back.
[8:36] <m4k10> it does sound faulty
[8:37] <m4k10> sorry I couldn't be of more help
[8:38] <evil_dan2wik> Well, looking at the board, there is a large area of padding under the LAN chip for heat dissipation and grounding. Probably not flowed enough.
[8:39] <m4k10> odd
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[8:39] <m4k10> how long you had yours?
[8:39] <evil_dan2wik> about 3 days.
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[8:40] <evil_dan2wik> I bought it and popped it in place of another Pi so it was already set up.
[8:40] <evil_dan2wik> Ok, I replaced the other Pi back and it is at 53.7C and the other side is 51.4C. Much better.
[8:41] <m4k10> I see. Might have better luck catching someone a little more knowledgeable later today.
[8:41] <evil_dan2wik> It isn't operating like a Known good Pi so, it must be faulty.
[8:42] <m4k10> sounds like it
[8:42] <m4k10> where'd you purchase from?
[8:42] <evil_dan2wik> m4k10, http://www.microcenter.com/product/414588/Raspberry_Pi_Model_B
[8:44] <m4k10> oh yea microcenter has a good return/exchange policy
[8:44] <evil_dan2wik> yes. it does.
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[8:45] <m4k10> I've gotta head to my local store tomorrow and see if they have any cases
[8:46] <evil_dan2wik> Probably will.
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[8:48] <m4k10> my stores kinda cruddy though. almost always out of what i want
[8:48] <evil_dan2wik> call up and ask them before you leave.
[8:50] <evil_dan2wik> Or their online store might have a stock finder.
[8:51] <m4k10> that would be the logical thing to do, but I'm ok just going there to browse. Although that can be a dangerous game, might walk out a little lighter in the pockets haha
[8:51] <evil_dan2wik> I don't raelly have any stores like that locally.
[8:52] <evil_dan2wik> Only one in 100km is jaycar.
[8:52] <evil_dan2wik> It is expensive.
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[8:54] <m4k10> never been.
[8:54] <evil_dan2wik> $100 for an arduino, a breadboard + jumpers, 20 LEDs(4R, 4G, 4B, 4Y, 4RGB), and a humidity sensor.
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[8:57] <m4k10> yeesh
[8:57] <m4k10> sounds like radio shack
[8:57] <m4k10> no one likes radio shack
[8:57] <evil_dan2wik> lol
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[9:03] <sireorion> hi all... i have installed an os on my again. raspbian i think it is
[9:04] <evil_dan2wik> sireorion, yes?
[9:04] <sireorion> i need some help with installing a couple of things. (one good video player)
[9:05] <evil_dan2wik> m4k10, http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/4146ybDtmAL._SL500_AA280_.jpg
[9:05] <evil_dan2wik> I think the SD card is bent.
[9:05] <m4k10> what in the world is that lol?
[9:06] <sireorion> i have tryed to install vlc but it dont finds it
[9:06] <sireorion> i have an memorycard that looks like that
[9:07] <evil_dan2wik> sireorion, what is it?
[9:07] <evil_dan2wik> I don't even know what it is.
[9:07] <m4k10> why in the world does it bend like that?
[9:07] <sireorion> its an adapter.
[9:07] <CDR`> micro-sd to sd?
[9:07] <evil_dan2wik> ah ok.
[9:07] <sireorion> u bend it apart to insert the memorycard
[9:07] <evil_dan2wik> sirderpalot, apt-get install vlc
[9:07] <evil_dan2wik> ?
[9:08] <sireorion> i have tested it
[9:08] <m4k10> just fyi VLC doesn't work on the RPi
[9:08] <sireorion> dident found vlc
[9:08] <sireorion> what should i use to play videos?
[9:09] <evil_dan2wik> sirderpalot, apt-get update; apt-get upgrade
[9:09] <m4k10> only one I know of is omxplayer
[9:09] <sireorion> is it good?
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[9:10] <evil_dan2wik> sireorion, apt-get update; apt-get upgrade.
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[9:10] <sireorion> its updateing and upgrading here
[9:10] <m4k10> it works well but it has to be run from the command line
[9:11] <evil_dan2wik> m4k10, btw, that thing is an SD card with a USB chip in it.
[9:11] <evil_dan2wik> m4k10, http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0012W9AU6/ref=s9_simz_gw_s1_p23_t3?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-2&pf_rd_r=13DBXXDK99G9E982YEFY&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=470938631&pf_rd_i=507846
[9:11] <sireorion> cool..
[9:11] <m4k10> aahh! very interesting
[9:12] <evil_dan2wik> so, if you don't have an SD card adapter handy, you can still access the data
[9:12] <sireorion> i love that idee... gonna buy one
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[9:13] <evil_dan2wik> I think sandisk stopped making them..
[9:13] <evil_dan2wik> It is a good idea though.
[9:13] <evil_dan2wik> especially for raspberry pi.
[9:14] <evil_dan2wik> Just take the card out and connect it to the computer.
[9:15] <sireorion> hehe is it stupid to have 80 TB storage on th e pi?
[9:15] <evil_dan2wik> 80 TB?
[9:15] <evil_dan2wik> How would you get that much>
[9:15] <evil_dan2wik> ?
[9:16] <sireorion> i connected to my servers hdd's and maked them as a storage on the pi
[9:17] <sireorion> ooh i need an irc client
[9:17] <evil_dan2wik> I use my raspberry Pi as an IRC bouncer.
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[9:17] <evil_dan2wik> It also monitors the solar system and logs the outputs.
[9:17] <m4k10> my favorite IRC client is CIRC on google chrome
[9:18] <m4k10> probably not helpful in your case but I kinda love it atm
[9:18] <sireorion> thumbs up
[9:18] <evil_dan2wik> sireorion, do you need GUI for your media player?
[9:19] <evil_dan2wik> as in, Are you using the desktop.
[9:19] <sireorion> evil_dan2wik: yes
[9:19] <evil_dan2wik> so, you want VLC media player then.
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[9:20] <m4k10> http://intensecode.blogspot.com/2013/10/tutorial-vlc-with-hardware-acceleration.html
[9:20] <sireorion> if there is an other that are better ill take that
[9:20] <m4k10> sireorion, give that link a look
[9:20] <sireorion> ok
[9:21] <evil_dan2wik> sireorion, did you upgrade/update?
[9:21] <m4k10> at the bottom of the article he has vlc with hardware acceleration precompiled so you don't need to do it yourself
[9:21] <sireorion> it still upgradeing
[9:22] <evil_dan2wik> ok.
[9:22] <evil_dan2wik> I just used sudo apt-get install vlc
[9:22] <sireorion> and that worked?
[9:22] <evil_dan2wik> yes.
[9:22] <evil_dan2wik> It found it fine.
[9:22] <sireorion> good...
[9:23] <m4k10> really? When i was running raspbian i couldn't find a working version of VLC. Is this recent?
[9:23] <evil_dan2wik> m4k10, idk
[9:23] <evil_dan2wik> Try and get it.
[9:23] <m4k10> hmm
[9:24] <evil_dan2wik> I am playing 1080p gravity on it right now.
[9:24] <m4k10> nice
[9:24] <evil_dan2wik> plus, the article you link is from last year.
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[9:25] <m4k10> this is true
[9:25] <m4k10> i guess it is close to 6 months old
[9:26] <evil_dan2wik> yes.
[9:26] <sireorion> one funny thing. i have an IT company... and we needed 1 rpi for testing a couple of stuff... just for fun did we order 1 rpi.. and got 1 box with rpi's... okey i cost like hell but one of my coworkers did an cluster with 64 rpi....
[9:26] <evil_dan2wik> When I run sudo apt-get install vlc I get "vlc is already the newest version."
[9:26] <evil_dan2wik> sireorion, cluster computing?
[9:26] <sireorion> yea.
[9:26] <sireorion> i dont understand a shit about it..
[9:27] <sireorion> we are going to give that cluster away at 13 may
[9:27] <evil_dan2wik> All it does it ask each pi to calculate a small part of the problem.
[9:27] <evil_dan2wik> sireorion, http://hackaday.com/2012/09/12/64-rasberry-pis-turned-into-a-supercomputer/
[9:29] <sireorion> it looks almost like that...but he's are in an plexi case
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[9:29] <sireorion> i can photo it later.. but are someone intressted in it?
[9:30] <sireorion> it gonna be an quiz and the price is the cluster
[9:30] <evil_dan2wik> hmm
[9:30] <evil_dan2wik> The cluster would be nice.
[9:30] <sireorion> ill link u the quiz evil_dan2wik when its up
[9:31] <evil_dan2wik> ok.
[9:31] <m4k10> wait, you're selling the cluster?
[9:31] <sireorion> downloading vlv
[9:31] <m4k10> noice!
[9:32] <m4k10> evil_dan2wik, check this out http://hackaday.com/2014/02/17/40-node-raspi-cluster/
[9:32] <sireorion> m4k10: no its going to be a price for a quiz
[9:32] <m4k10> oh really?
[9:33] <m4k10> cool beans!
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[9:34] <sireorion> m4k10: we have no reason to have it in the office
[9:34] <evil_dan2wik> sireorion, price or prize?
[9:34] <sireorion> prize
[9:34] <sireorion> my english are kinda super bad
[9:35] <m4k10> no worries man
[9:35] <evil_dan2wik> The GPU has 24GFLOPS of processing power, 1.5TFLOPS of GPU power in a 64 Pi cluster.
[9:35] <sireorion> =)
[9:35] <m4k10> jeeze
[9:35] <m4k10> that's kinda cool
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[9:37] <m4k10> reminds me of when the ps3 could run linux and the us defence department built a super computer using a whole bunch of ps3s. Apparently is was more cost effective lol
[9:37] <evil_dan2wik> An i7 980X gives 109 GFLOPS
[9:37] <sireorion> sudo apt-get install irc dident find
[9:37] <evil_dan2wik> sireorion, there is not irc package.
[9:37] <sireorion> damn
[9:37] <evil_dan2wik> sireorion, try sudo apt-get install vlc first.
[9:38] <sireorion> it are installed
[9:38] <evil_dan2wik> oh ok.
[9:38] <m4k10> http://phys.org/news/2010-12-air-playstation-3s-supercomputer.html
[9:38] <sireorion> working nice.. on 720p
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[9:38] <evil_dan2wik> sireorion, it won't play certain codecs though since the overhead is too much.
[9:40] <m4k10> sireorion, xchat is a pretty stable debian irc client i've heard
[9:40] <sireorion> haha fml i have installed the shit on the laptop
[9:41] <m4k10> LOL
[9:41] <sireorion> pi
[9:41] <sireorion> i will update and upgrade again but this time on the rpi
[9:42] <evil_dan2wik> Brb, I need to restart my Pi.
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[9:43] <evil_dan2wik_> should do an image backup of the USB
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[9:50] <sireorion> im back
[9:50] <evil_dan2wik> I am too.
[9:50] <ShorTie> Welcome Back
[9:50] <sireorion> installed xchat
[9:50] <evil_dan2wik> Cool.
[9:50] <evil_dan2wik> Using it now?
[9:50] <sireorion> yes
[9:50] <evil_dan2wik> working good?
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[9:51] <sireorion> as far that i can tell
[9:51] <evil_dan2wik> sireorion, what do you plan to use your raspberry pi for?
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[9:52] <sireorion> this one is just for learning linux... but the other one i have is just f�r xbmc
[9:53] <evil_dan2wik> ok.
[9:53] <ShorTie> Gentoo is good for the Linux learning curve
[9:54] <sireorion> but can u install gentoo on the rpi
[9:54] <evil_dan2wik> Raspbian is the deepest into linux I have been.
[9:54] <ShorTie> sure
[9:54] <evil_dan2wik> I use Ubuntu on live boot for various things like file recovery.
[9:54] <sireorion> nice...
[9:56] <ShorTie> might take a couple days, but there is a wiki out there for it
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[9:57] <m4k10> well fellas, I'm off. Have a good one, gotta go catch those zzz's
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[9:57] <evil_dan2wik> Seeya.
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[10:49] <sireorion> vad kan man hitta p� f�r roligt med raspbian?
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[10:50] <evil_dan2wik> sireorion, minecraft? Movies? Python Games? Retro Games Simulator?
[10:50] <sireorion> vad som =)
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[10:52] <sireorion> beh�ver flash iallafall
[10:52] <sireorion> s� yt funkar
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[10:55] <evil_dan2wik> You were speaking english before, why not now?
[10:56] <sireorion> oooh sorry i need flash
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[10:56] <sireorion> so youtube works
[10:56] <sireorion> im swedish
[10:57] <evil_dan2wik> I heard that flash was slow with youtube on raspberry.
[10:57] <sireorion> forgot the little thing that not everybody can swedish =)
[10:57] <evil_dan2wik> yeah.
[10:57] <sireorion> so what can i use this rpi for ?
[10:59] <evil_dan2wik> Monitoring, playing movies, playing games, utility, web/service hosting.
[10:59] <sireorion> lets play some game then
[11:00] <sireorion> sudo apt-get games?
[11:01] <evil_dan2wik> no?
[11:02] <sireorion> linux is like a mist for me...
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[11:02] <evil_dan2wik> sireorion, http://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=78&t=51794
[11:02] <evil_dan2wik> Or, browse the Pi Store, There is an icon on your desktop
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[11:05] <sireorion> i want teddy
[11:05] <sireorion> ill test pi store later
[11:06] <sireorion> dident find pakage teddy :/
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[11:10] <sireorion> how do i know is my sound wopeakersrks? havent heard a noise from the s
[11:10] <sireorion> how do i know is my sound works? havent heard a noise from the speakers
[11:11] <evil_dan2wik> sireorion, are you using sound through HDMI cable or the audio jack?
[11:11] <sireorion> hdmi
[11:13] <evil_dan2wik> sireorion, try "amixer cset numid=3 2"
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[11:14] <Joost`> I received the openssl update via the raspbian repositories, but it did not fix the vulnerability, it seems
[11:14] <Joost`> anyone tried it?
[11:14] <Joost`> I'm still able to dump the memory using ssltest.py
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[11:14] <evil_dan2wik> Joost`, type "openssl version"
[11:15] <Joost`> yeah, it's displaying feb 11 2013
[11:15] <Joost`> but debian has been a bit inconvenient with their versioning conventions
[11:15] <sireorion> root@raspberrypi:/home/pi# amixer cset numid=3 2
[11:15] <sireorion> numid=3,iface=MIXER,name='PCM Playback Route'
[11:15] <sireorion> ; type=INTEGER,access=rw------,values=1,min=0,max=2,step=0
[11:15] <sireorion> : values=2
[11:15] <sireorion> root@raspberrypi:/home/pi#
[11:15] <evil_dan2wik> I need the version.
[11:15] <Joost`> given that it's 1.0.1e, but patched
[11:15] <Joost`> `OpenSSL 1.0.1e 11 Feb 2013`
[11:15] <Joost`> which is vulnerable
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[11:16] <evil_dan2wik> Joost`, http://www.openssl.org/source/
[11:16] <evil_dan2wik> Have to make it manually.
[11:17] <Joost`> yeah, was download it now :p
[11:17] <sireorion> how can i test it now.. dont have any mp3's
[11:17] <evil_dan2wik> Un-install openssl first.
[11:18] <evil_dan2wik> sireorion, aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav
[11:19] <plugwash> Joost`, what does 'dpkg -l libssl1.0.0' say?
[11:19] <sireorion> damn she sounds nice....
[11:19] <evil_dan2wik> sireorion, cool.
[11:19] <Joost`> 1.0.1e-2+rv
[11:19] <Joost`> rvt*
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[11:20] <plugwash> hmm, that doesn't look like the full version number
[11:20] <Joost`> perhaps.. I just need to restart it
[11:20] <Joost`> "ii libssl1.0.0:arm 1.0.1e-2+rvt armhf SSL shared libraries"
[11:20] <Joost`> that's the full result
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[11:20] <plugwash> Joost`, can you make the terminal wider, it looks like it's cutting off the version number
[11:21] <Joost`> oh, you're right
[11:21] <Joost`> 1.0.1e-2+rvt+deb7u6 - I just got that in
[11:21] <plugwash> ok so it seems you do have the patched version installed, have you made sure all services have been restarted?
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[11:22] <Joost`> You're right, that's it
[11:23] <Joost`> Thanks :)
[11:23] <evil_dan2wik> It is funny because I was able to install 1.0.1g with no problems, it just took about an hour to compile.
[11:26] <sireorion> evil_dan2wik, u know the i/o pins on the motherboard. is there any gui apps that give me control of them?
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[11:26] <sireorion> like say that i use it to turn on lights and stuff
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[11:33] <evil_dan2wik> I don't know, Let me do a quick search
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[11:34] <evil_dan2wik> sireorion, http://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=50246
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[12:31] <AlexBones> I'm about to order a Raspberry Pi package with an ugly transparent chassis, a 16 GB memory card and power adapter. Will it have issues playing some 1080p videos?
[12:31] <AlexBones> I can't help but feel that there will be some catch.
[12:32] <ShorTie> yup, you didn't order a monitor
[12:32] <AlexBones> TV with HDMI cable already exists.
[12:32] <ShorTie> oh, lol.
[12:32] <AlexBones> And wireless keyboard + mouse. A bit unsure about that, actually.
[12:33] <AlexBones> But it hopefully will work.
[12:33] <ShorTie> y 4 the 16gig sdcard ??
[12:33] <AlexBones> ?
[12:33] <AlexBones> It comes in a package.
[12:33] <AlexBones> Is 16 GB too small according to you?
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[12:33] <ShorTie> no, to big to me
[12:34] <AlexBones> Can barely store any files.
[12:34] <ShorTie> better to get a usb flash drive to store stuff on, imho
[12:34] <AlexBones> A non-butchered Blu-ray movie won't fit on that.
[12:34] <ShorTie> or usb hard drive
[12:34] <AlexBones> Well, I have a 32 GB memstick already. Will be able to use it, I guess. But I don't like streaming from USB.
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[12:35] <AlexBones> Does it run a special edition of Linux?
[12:35] <evil_dan2wik> AlexBones, why not?
[12:35] <ShorTie> sdcards are prone to corruption, loosing everthing on them
[12:35] <AlexBones> evil_dan2wik: Feels error-prone.
[12:35] <evil_dan2wik> AlexBones, ARM based linux
[12:36] <evil_dan2wik> AlexBones, I run the whole linux distro off the USB
[12:36] <AlexBones> Installing that Linux is a matter of copying files over on my ordinary PC to the memory card?
[12:36] <evil_dan2wik> AlexBones, It depends.
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[12:36] <ShorTie> na, just writing an image more likely
[12:36] <AlexBones> I do have an external USB CD reader, so I could burn a CD and install it like that if need be, though.
[12:36] <evil_dan2wik> no.
[12:37] <evil_dan2wik> Doesn't install from CD.
[12:37] <evil_dan2wik> It isn't a computer.
[12:37] <AlexBones> Hmm...
[12:37] <evil_dan2wik> Well, it is, but it doesn't have a BIOS
[12:37] <AlexBones> I suspect that I will either be very surprised by how small and quiet and powerful it is, or I'm gonna be pissed off like I was at that "Zombee" HTPC device.
[12:37] <AlexBones> Which was awful.
[12:38] <evil_dan2wik> AlexBones, It runs 1080p videos nicely under most formats.
[12:38] <ShorTie> how much/many streaming events you gonna be doing ??
[12:38] <AlexBones> "A fair bit", I guess.
[12:38] <AlexBones> Why does it matter?
[12:38] <AlexBones> Is it prone to dying?
[12:39] <ShorTie> pi is not known for it's streaming capabilties
[12:39] <AlexBones> Oh. I read that wrong.
[12:39] <AlexBones> I won't be streaming anything, no. Only reading from USB memstick or the memstick.
[12:39] <ShorTie> usb and nic both use the same bandwidth
[12:39] <AlexBones> *memcard
[12:40] <evil_dan2wik> The SD card is prone to corruption under some circumstances, And power loss is a big contributer to corruption.
[12:40] <AlexBones> Why do they sell separately heatsinks for the Raspberry Pi? The product description says: "Keep your Raspberry Pi cool without the need for noisy fans"
[12:40] <AlexBones> I thought it didn't need any additional cooling?
[12:41] <evil_dan2wik> AlexBones, no it doesn't.
[12:41] <ShorTie> it doesn't
[12:41] <AlexBones> So they sell that... why exactly? :S
[12:41] <evil_dan2wik> For profit and special cases.
[12:42] <evil_dan2wik> Some people think that just because the Pi feels hot, it is overheating.
[12:42] <ShorTie> for looks and profit
[12:43] <AlexBones> Hmm...
[12:43] <AlexBones> Why no official, black, nice chassis?
[12:43] <AlexBones> Why an ugly, third-party, transparent one?
[12:44] <evil_dan2wik> AlexBones, there is rainbow ones.
[12:44] <ShorTie> there are all kinds of cases arond
[12:46] <AlexBones> This always annoyed me, since the Nintendo 64/iMac days.
[12:46] <AlexBones> Ugly, transparent chassis...
[12:46] <evil_dan2wik> AlexBones, also, the raspberry pi foundation doesn't actually produce the Raspberry Pis so they don't control what the Pis are sold with. If you want a nice black case, look on Ebay or something.
[12:47] <AlexBones> Why do they make them? Who wants them? It never made sense to me.
[12:47] <AlexBones> Yeah...
[12:47] <AlexBones> Just venting about this vendor picking such a stupid one.
[12:47] <ShorTie> i like my little clear case
[12:48] <evil_dan2wik> I don't even have a case.
[12:48] <ShorTie> turned it into a movie camera .. :)~
[12:48] <evil_dan2wik> Mine hangs by it's cables half-way up the wall because the router is on the roof.
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[12:50] <ShorTie> i got the red bud box case too, which is cool cause it's like 2 in 1 cause you only need hafe to hold the pi
[12:50] <AlexBones> Maybe it looks better IRL, but usually, it's the other way around.
[12:50] <AlexBones> Things look cool and nice on a product photo, but like shit in real life.
[12:50] <[Saint]> Why is the router on the roof...?
[12:51] <AlexBones> It wouldn't have hurt with some kind of branding. Like, a nice, sleek, black box with a raspberry subtly printed on top.
[12:51] <evil_dan2wik> [Saint], best wireless reception
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[12:53] <[Saint]> Multi-story living w/single AP?
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[12:53] <evil_dan2wik> We tried quite a few positions but none of them got a good wireless connection, The bars would go up and down all the time.
[12:54] <evil_dan2wik> No, main house with 2 smaller houses around it.
[12:54] <[Saint]> Sounds like you need one or more repeater stations.
[12:55] <[Saint]> Or a decent parabolic antenna or two.
[12:56] <evil_dan2wik> [Saint], On the roof, we get 4-5 bars in every part of the yard now.
[12:57] <[Saint]> Jiggly WiFi reception can also be a sign of band competition. Most routers will make an extraordinarily bad job of picking a channel on "auto".
[12:57] <[Saint]> Thankfully there's a trillion Android apps that will help pick a decongested channel.
[12:58] <ShorTie> ya, broadcasting you need it up high and free of obstickles
[12:58] <evil_dan2wik> [Saint], the yard is quite big. Plus I already tested for a free band.
[12:58] <ShorTie> ever wall degrades the signal
[12:59] <ShorTie> every*
[12:59] <evil_dan2wik> I am using channel 12, all the other routers in the area are on channels 3 and 4
[13:01] <evil_dan2wik> I don't know why but elevating the router and facing the antanna down makes it work fine, even the bus stop gets 2 bars.
[13:02] <ShorTie> it's a line of sight transmission
[13:03] <ShorTie> i know this is extreme, but just compare what you can see between being on the ground compared to standing on your roof
[13:03] <evil_dan2wik> Would it be the aluminium lined insulation in the lower half of the walls maybe?
[13:03] <ShorTie> ya, that will cut it down even more then a non-insulated wall
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[13:04] <ShorTie> even just a tree degrades the signal
[13:04] <evil_dan2wik> Just asking my grandad now, the lower half of the walls had moisture problems from water running under the house and the insulation would go moldy.
[13:05] <evil_dan2wik> The upper half doesn't have the aluminium.
[13:06] <evil_dan2wik> Anyway, mystery solved.
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[13:34] <evil_dan2wik> "using USB spec power 0.5 Volt"
[13:34] <evil_dan2wik> I think that was a Typo
[13:37] <sireorion> 1 Rpi, 1 16Gb class10 SD, 1 black case, 1 powerpack 16000 mAh, 1 usb-hub 8 port, 8 3tb hdd's <-------- thats my new media center/NAS
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[13:40] <evil_dan2wik> sireorion, what type of hard drives?
[13:40] <sireorion> right now usb3 seagate 3tb but using usb2.0
[13:41] <evil_dan2wik> seagate huh?
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[13:42] <evil_dan2wik> sireorion, http://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/hard-disk-attrition.jpg
[13:42] <evil_dan2wik> sireorion, http://www.extremetech.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/hard-drive-annual-failure-rate-hitachi-seagate-wd.jpg
[13:43] <sireorion> but the seagate was 4 free
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[13:44] <evil_dan2wik> ok
[13:45] <sireorion> we recent changed all external hdd's
[13:46] <evil_dan2wik> sireorion, You probably want to mirror the drives .
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[13:46] <sireorion> yeap. fparted
[13:47] <sireorion> or what it called
[13:47] <evil_dan2wik> gparted?
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[13:47] <sireorion> thats the name
[13:47] <evil_dan2wik> yes.
[13:49] <sireorion> cant be so hard to mirror it
[13:50] <evil_dan2wik> btw, it won't have spectacular performance since everything has to run through the single USB port on the SOC
[13:50] <sireorion> but something thats hard to do is to make the wifigongle work
[13:51] <sireorion> i know. but its still an 24 tb storage :)
[13:51] <evil_dan2wik> everything, ethernet and everything connected to USB has to run through the single USB channel on the SOC
[13:52] <sireorion> darn... so wifi isent possible?
[13:52] <evil_dan2wik> Yes it is, It will just be slow if there are other things being used like the hard drive or keyboard/mouse
[13:53] <evil_dan2wik> sireorion, acording to the reliability chart, that 24TB will end up as 18TB after around a year.
[13:53] <sireorion> its worth it :)
[13:54] <evil_dan2wik> worth it?
[13:55] <evil_dan2wik> sireorion, if you mirror the drives, then you have to write the same data twice, doubling USB traffic.
[13:55] <evil_dan2wik> But if you don't, then you will loose lots of data.
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[13:56] <sireorion> i know. but ill do backups to the servers
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[13:57] <thordon> Hi. I'm trying to improve my pi's downloading performance. I noticed that when I do a wget of a test file and send it to /dev/null I get about 5MB/sec, which is about right for my internet connection (50Mb). But if I wget to my external hard drive instead I only get around 2.5. Is this something to do with the USB and ethenet sharing the same USB interface or however you say it?
[13:57] <nid0> yes
[13:57] <nid0> wget to sd card and you'll have no problem
[13:59] <sireorion> is it hard to install my wifi dongle?
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[14:00] <evil_dan2wik> sireorion, It will auto detect, Just run the wifi configuration program on the desktop.
[14:00] <sireorion> it dont shows up there
[14:01] <evil_dan2wik> um o
[14:01] <evil_dan2wik> ok
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[14:01] <evil_dan2wik> sireorion, Type "dmesg" and paste the output to pastebin.net
[14:01] <sireorion> ok
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[14:04] <sireorion> http://pastebin.com/9rzsQK9n
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[14:09] <sireorion> evil_dan2wik, found anything?
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[14:10] <thordon> Is it possible to connect a hard drive through the gpio ports for better performance?
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[14:11] <evil_dan2wik> thordon, for worse performance, yes. For better performance, no.
[14:11] <evil_dan2wik> sireorion, I think your firmware failed to load.
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[14:13] <evil_dan2wik> sireorion, can you do the same thing for "lsusb -v"
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[14:18] <evil_dan2wik> sireorion, Can you also tell me your wifi model
[14:19] <sireorion> ok
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[14:19] <sireorion> zyxel g202
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[14:24] <sireorion> brb
[14:25] <evil_dan2wik> sireorion, I need the "lsusb -v"
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[14:25] <rayaslokas> hello, somebody with experience with IR receivers on the Raspberry pi ?
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[14:27] <evil_dan2wik> rayaslokas, just ask the question and provide information about it so someone doesn't have to ask for it.
[14:28] <rayaslokas> evil_dan2wik: ok, sorry and thank you
[14:29] <sireorion> with the stick in
[14:30] <rayaslokas> I'm trying to setup an IR receiver to control my raspberry pi running OpenELEC, I have connected it to 3.3v, ground and GPIO 18. My problem is when I use "mode2 -d /dev/lirc0" I get crap data without pressing any button
[14:30] <rayaslokas> I would love if somebody could help me to figure out what is happening
[14:30] <rayaslokas> thanks in advance
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[14:31] <evil_dan2wik> sirderpalot, yes, with the stick in.
[14:32] <evil_dan2wik> rayaslokas, is there a model for the remote?
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[14:32] <evil_dan2wik> sireorion, yes, with the stick in.
[14:33] <evil_dan2wik> rayaslokas, what is the crap data being received?
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[14:35] <sireorion> ttp://pastebin.com/9rzsQK9n
[14:35] <rayaslokas> evil_dan2wik: I'm getting crap data without pressing any button from the remote (I have a few remotes for testing)... I'm getting pulse/space all the time
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[14:36] <evil_dan2wik> rayaslokas, tried putting your finger over the sensor
[14:36] <evil_dan2wik> ?
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[14:36] <rayaslokas> yep, nothing change
[14:37] <sireorion> http://pastebin.com/As0Xc22Y
[14:37] <rayaslokas> exist a place to config what gpio I'm using ?
[14:37] <sireorion> this is the new one
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[14:37] <rayaslokas> thats strange for me, I never tell to lirc where is my receiver
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[14:39] <evil_dan2wik> sireorion, try "sudo lsusb -v"
[14:40] <sireorion> ok
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[14:41] <sireorion> http://pastebin.com/6F5LpGFX
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[14:42] <evil_dan2wik> sireorion, you didn't sudo.
[14:42] <sireorion> yes i did
[14:42] <evil_dan2wik> oh, half way down...
[14:43] <rayaslokas> well, dmesg show me the gpio, and it is just what I'm using
[14:43] <sireorion> evil_dan2wik, i forgot to clear
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[14:44] <evil_dan2wik> rayaslokas, model of the remote?
[14:44] <evil_dan2wik> and receiver.
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[14:48] <rayaslokas> evil_dan2wik: receiver VS 1838B ... remote apple remote control
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[14:51] <evil_dan2wik> rayaslokas, what code are you using?
[14:52] <sireorion> i give up
[14:53] <sireorion> i will use cable
[14:53] <rayaslokas> evil_dan2wik: sorry, I didn't understand the question, what do you mean with code?
[14:53] <evil_dan2wik> rayaslokas, you need code or a program to use with the IR receiver/
[14:53] <rayaslokas> I'm using LIRC, it is installed by default in OpenELEC
[14:54] <sireorion> is lirc good?
[14:54] <rayaslokas> sireorion: not sure, but looks like all people is using it for IR receivers
[14:54] <sireorion> okey.. it looks like windows 3.11
[14:55] <rayaslokas> :S ?
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[14:59] <evil_dan2wik> rayaslokas, looked at this? http://pmitev.blogspot.com.au/2014/01/raspberry-pi-and-ir-remote-control-with.html
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[15:06] <rayaslokas> evil_dan2wik: not the same one, but similar, more complete... I'm following the same steps... the problem is the crap data that I shouldn't be receiving
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[15:08] <LinuxMe> hi guys
[15:09] <evil_dan2wik> rayaslokas, following the specs for voltage and such?
[15:09] <LinuxMe> anybody here has experience with encrpytion on PI ?
[15:09] <LinuxMe> I need a folder encrypted
[15:09] <LinuxMe> and auto mount with a bash script on start up
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[15:10] <rayaslokas> evil_dan2wik: yep, I was just making a test with the reciver unpluged, and I was not reading any crap data
[15:11] <evil_dan2wik> ok.
[15:11] <rayaslokas> now I'm sure the reciver was working
[15:11] <rayaslokas> I will try with a new reciver
[15:11] <rayaslokas> maybe this one is damaged
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[15:19] <rayaslokas> same thing... looks like it is not my day :(
[15:20] <evil_dan2wik> rayaslokas, read the datasheet.
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[15:21] <rayaslokas> evil_dan2wik: I did it. I'm using this receivers with arduino, all is working as expected
[15:21] <evil_dan2wik> ok.
[15:21] <rayaslokas> I'm just getting problems with the raspberry
[15:22] <rayaslokas> maybe I'm wrong waiting for not any data till I press the button
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[15:25] <evil_dan2wik> Is the sensor being powered by 5v or 3.3v?
[15:25] <rayaslokas> 3.3
[15:25] <evil_dan2wik> ok.
[15:25] <evil_dan2wik> Good.
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[15:26] <rayaslokas> with arduino I was using 5v, but for raspberry pi I should use 3.3
[15:26] <evil_dan2wik> yes that is correct.
[15:27] <evil_dan2wik> try using it with 3.3v on the arduino.
[15:27] <rayaslokas> hum, good idea
[15:27] <rayaslokas> I will
[15:30] <sireorion> i havent permission to move stuff to lib/firmware
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[15:32] <evil_dan2wik> sireorion, use sudo
[15:32] <evil_dan2wik> If you have permissions problems, run the command as sudo, it should fix it.
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[15:36] <sireorion> all files from this folder "/home/pi/Desktop/temp/zd1211-firmware" to /lib/firmwire... how do i do?'
[15:37] <ppq> sudo cp
[15:38] <sireorion> and what more?
[15:38] <ppq> you should consider reading 'man cp'
[15:39] <sireorion> sudo cp -a /home/pi/Desktop/temp/zd1211-firmware/* /lib/firmware
[15:39] <sireorion> is this right?
[15:39] <sireorion> brb
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[15:40] <evil_dan2wik> rayaslokas, working on 3.3v?
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[15:47] <rayaslokas> evil_dan2wik: yes, without any problem. I think I will try it using raspbian, I don't trust too much in OpenELEC
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[15:49] <evil_dan2wik> rayaslokas, I haven't used GPIO yet but is it possible that it is in output mode?
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[15:50] <rayaslokas> evil_dan2wik: don't think so, I'm not programming the GPIO by my self, it is made by LIRC
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[15:51] <rayaslokas> and it is reading values, if it will be like output it will not read anything
[15:51] <evil_dan2wik> As I said, I haven't used GPIO yet so I don't know what happens when it is in output mode and you try to read.
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[15:58] <rayaslokas> evil_dan2wik: well, I'm not so sure, but it should not work if it is like output, anyways, I'm sure the LIRC guys are doing correct things on the code
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[15:59] <rayaslokas> evil_dan2wik: I'm installing LIRC on my raspbian, I will let you know if I get better results
[15:59] <rayaslokas> evil_dan2wik: thank you very much for you help and time :)
[15:59] <evil_dan2wik> ok.
[16:00] <evil_dan2wik> Well I am about to go to sleep anyway.
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[16:00] <rayaslokas> evil_dan2wik: I just added this channel to my default list, hope to see you again :)
[16:01] <evil_dan2wik> Same.
[16:01] <evil_dan2wik> Night.
[16:01] <rayaslokas> good night, have a nice rest
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[16:08] <Skurlat> I have 2 usb serial interfaces connected to the pi, appearing as /dev/ttyACM0 and /dev/ttyACM1, is there a way to fix this assignement so they don't get swapped after a reboot for example ? Like an equivalent to UUID in the fstab for hard-drives ?
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[16:10] <rayaslokas> evil_dan2wik: working fine on raspibian xD
[16:10] <rayaslokas> evil_dan2wik: it is problem with the pre-installed LIRC on OpenELEC
[16:10] <evil_dan2wik> rayaslokas, try and find out more information about the install LIRC
[16:10] <evil_dan2wik> and maybe try and copy the config over?
[16:11] <rayaslokas> I will check config over, but I think it could be a problem with the kernel on OpenELEC
[16:12] <evil_dan2wik> maybe.
[16:13] <evil_dan2wik> rayaslokas, did you run apt-get update; apt-get upgrade?
[16:14] <rayaslokas> on my raspbian yes, but in OpenELEC apt-get is disabled
[16:14] <evil_dan2wik> hmm?
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[16:14] <evil_dan2wik> disabled how?
[16:15] <rayaslokas> it is not installed on the system
[16:15] <rayaslokas> they remove it
[16:15] <evil_dan2wik> ok...
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[16:16] <rayaslokas> evil_dan2wik: look http://pastebin.com/Q9CWut1u
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[16:18] <evil_dan2wik> ray ok.
[16:19] <evil_dan2wik> rayaslokas, ok. Maybe you could try another media OS?
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[16:20] <rayaslokas> evil_dan2wik: yep, sadly I tryed raspmbc, xbian and openelec and select the last one
[16:20] <rayaslokas> evil_dan2wik: raspmbc and xbian have several problem on their workflow
[16:20] <evil_dan2wik> ok.
[16:21] <evil_dan2wik> rayaslokas, XBMC?
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[16:21] <rayaslokas> all this OS run XBMC
[16:22] <evil_dan2wik> oh ok.
[16:22] <rayaslokas> maybe the best option will be use XBMC directly on my raspbian
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[16:22] <evil_dan2wik> rayaslokas, http://www.raspbian.org/RaspbianXBMC
[16:24] <rayaslokas> yep, I know that link, I was just thinking that use and OS for xbmc will be the best options, but looks like it is not the best option
[16:24] <rayaslokas> I was going throw different issues trying xbian and openelec
[16:24] <rayaslokas> through*
[16:24] <IT_Sean> If you JUST want xbmc, i would recommend OpenELEC.
[16:24] <rayaslokas> (sorry about my english)
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[16:25] <evil_dan2wik> IT_Sean, the problem is that his remote isn't working with OpenELEC
[16:25] <rayaslokas> I'm using OpenELEC, after try raspbmc and xbian I select OpenELEC
[16:25] <IT_Sean> Ah, i see.
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[16:25] <rayaslokas> also I'm having other issues with OpenELEC, for example reading music from my apple time capsule, xbmc reboot randomly while reading
[16:26] <evil_dan2wik> rayaslokas, power supply amperage rating?
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[16:26] <rayaslokas> I'm using an iphone charger
[16:27] <evil_dan2wik> what is the rating on it.
[16:27] <rayaslokas> it draw like 700mh
[16:27] <evil_dan2wik> rayaslokas, I need the rating written on the charger.
[16:27] <evil_dan2wik> If it randomly reboots, it is usually power.
[16:27] <Hoerie> and you also need the voltage, as not every psu is capable of outputting voltage under load
[16:28] <rayaslokas> evil_dan2wik: sorry, maybe the ramdomly was not the best word to use, it is not ramdomly
[16:28] <rayaslokas> it is just when reading music from my apple time capsule
[16:28] <rayaslokas> the raspberry dont reboot, just the xbmc does
[16:29] <rayaslokas> I can watch movies without any problem, I could play snes games on raspbian without any problems
[16:29] <Darkwell> hay any of you have slice of radion ?
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[16:29] <evil_dan2wik> rayaslokas, how is that powered?
[16:29] <rayaslokas> it is just an OpenELEC problem
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[16:29] <evil_dan2wik> the time capsule.
[16:30] <rayaslokas> directly to the electric system of the house, 220v
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[16:31] <rayaslokas> and I can watch movies from the time capsule, but not listen music... I can listen one song, when it will go for the next one, xbmc reboot, but not openelec or the raspberry, just the xbmc
[16:32] <rayaslokas> im pretty sure it is issues of the openelec system
[16:32] <IT_Sean> So, xbmc crashes, is what you are saying.
[16:32] <rayaslokas> IT_Sean: yes, but not like a freezing crash, it restart
[16:32] <evil_dan2wik> Oh, I thought you meant the whole OS.
[16:33] <rayaslokas> nono, just xbmc
[16:33] <IT_Sean> Sounds like an issue w/ OpenELEC
[16:33] <rayaslokas> it is the same what I think
[16:33] <rayaslokas> I'm just telling that
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[16:34] <rayaslokas> I will give a try using xbmc directly on my raspbian and forget about raspbmc, xbian or openelec
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[16:34] <evil_dan2wik> rayaslokas, I guess, try and install XBMC onto Raspbian and hope for the best.
[16:35] <evil_dan2wik> It should be stable.
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[16:36] <evil_dan2wik> I should sleep.
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[16:39] <staquix> Is there a best class 10 SD for pi?
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[16:42] <rayaslokas> evil_dan2wik: I will :) have a nice rest :)
[16:42] <evil_dan2wik> staquix, most of the time you don't actually get the full speed out of the card.
[16:42] <evil_dan2wik> K, night.
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[16:43] <IT_Sean> indeed... the speed ratings on the card have almost no correlation to random read/write speeds.
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[16:44] <staquix> Ok, I got a "Wintec" 16gb and the pi hates it.
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[16:44] <staquix> Just shopping for a new one atm.
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[16:46] <overrider> I use ATP; ~50 cards so far and no problems yet.
[16:47] <overrider> http://www.storesys.de/ATP-Industrial-Grade-SD-512-MB-Secure-Digital-Card-Industrial-Temp-40C-to-85C That one
[16:48] <staquix> overrider: Nice, Thanks.
[16:49] <overrider> Thats 512MB only though
[16:50] <overrider> They use an 8GB pic which is misleading; better do more research. I think i pay ... 30Eur for 4GB or something
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[17:02] <blockh34d> rayaslokas: hello i made a little media player UI for use under raspbian maybe you'd like it. It's 'scamp' in the app store, its free, maybe it would work for you
[17:02] <steve_rox> i shall attempt to find it
[17:03] <blockh34d> let me know if any troubles, suggestions, etc
[17:03] <blockh34d> its very basic but does what i need
[17:04] <steve_rox> kinda cool looking from the screenshots
[17:04] <blockh34d> oh thanks yeah i like ascii art
[17:04] <Encrypt> :]
[17:04] <blockh34d> so i thought hey why not use ascii for the whole ui... its 'cheap' and works from ssh/putty
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[17:04] <steve_rox> :-)
[17:05] <blockh34d> it does still support mouse btw, even through putty
[17:06] <sraue> rayaslokas, if xbmc crash on OpenELEC, you should report to us (OpenELEC) or in XBMC forum, also we should know which version you are running, you tried the last betas already? (and as a side note, OpenELEC donr REMOVED/DISABLED apt, its not buildin because OpenELEC is not a debian based OS)
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[17:08] <steve_rox> so anything else fun going on?
[17:08] <blockh34d> did you see my hmd?
[17:08] <steve_rox> not that i know of
[17:08] <blockh34d> funniest looking thing i've seen all week
[17:08] <blockh34d> sec
[17:09] <blockh34d> http://s13.postimg.org/kvykdw2dz/IMG_2521.jpg
[17:09] <steve_rox> that looks borg like
[17:09] <blockh34d> its like the mutant offspring of a DIY Occulus humped a castAR
[17:10] <blockh34d> yes i'm upgrading my old analog face
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[17:10] <blockh34d> soon i will be all digital
[17:10] <steve_rox> carefull your have facebook after you for patients etc for the rift
[17:10] <steve_rox> ;-)
[17:10] <blockh34d> no, 'F--- Facebook' is in the charter
[17:10] <blockh34d> its the first line of it
[17:11] <blockh34d> sorry for non FF, that word isnt what you think
[17:11] <steve_rox> i worry they will make a virtual reality farmtown
[17:11] <blockh34d> they definately will
[17:11] <IT_Sean> blockh34d: please familiarize yourself with the channel language policy, including the bit about self censoring.
[17:11] <blockh34d> yes i will, i did know i just really hate facebook
[17:11] <steve_rox> totally horrifyed at that hostile sale
[17:11] <blockh34d> lets say' fart facebook'
[17:11] <steve_rox> :-)
[17:12] <IT_Sean> we'll say that... this time.
[17:12] <steve_rox> i cant really type what i really call it in here
[17:12] <blockh34d> lol
[17:12] <blockh34d> yes same
[17:12] <blockh34d> i really despise the whole premise of FB
[17:12] <blockh34d> just some gov sponsored system of spying
[17:12] <steve_rox> nsa must love it tho
[17:12] <blockh34d> they probably own zuckerberg
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[17:13] <steve_rox> most likely yea
[17:13] <blockh34d> is that pic funny or what
[17:13] <steve_rox> not sure , it reminds me of the borg
[17:13] <blockh34d> i'm surprsied more people arent laughing about it, i expected to see it on fark by now
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[17:13] <blockh34d> really looks like some good farking waiting to happen
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[17:14] <steve_rox> or death by electrocution?
[17:14] <blockh34d> so far so good
[17:14] <blockh34d> i do plan on putting an EEG on it soon though
[17:14] <blockh34d> for mental controlled stuff
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[17:15] <blockh34d> maybe someone could overload a EEG, zap my brain
[17:15] <blockh34d> would probably help so i'm not too worried
[17:15] <steve_rox> yay
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[17:17] <steve_rox> dident get around to wireing that dotmatrix lcd up :-/
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[17:17] <steve_rox> always fun trying to understand the adafruit digrams when they always lay it out on a breadboard
[17:17] <blockh34d> i was thinking of putting something like that on the front of my hmd
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[17:18] <blockh34d> so i could scroll a message across the front
[17:18] <steve_rox> "have a nice day"
[17:18] <blockh34d> seen athf episode 'edork'? i think i'm making an 'e-helmet'
[17:19] <blockh34d> i wish i could give everyone that particular episode of that show i think it'd crack up any DIY hobbyist
[17:20] <steve_rox> hmm combine some kinda poining sensor to a gun or something and the rpi hud could display where its going to hit/point at or somethin
[17:21] <blockh34d> yes thats the plan
[17:21] <blockh34d> also putting a camera on a gun instead of a scope
[17:21] <steve_rox> its virtua cop all over again
[17:21] <blockh34d> and making it so when the user picks up the gun it will map that camera to your eye
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[17:21] <blockh34d> oh i'm no cop
[17:21] <blockh34d> virtua slacker
[17:22] <steve_rox> virtua cop is a classic game from the sega saturn and arcades
[17:22] <blockh34d> oh i know it
[17:22] <blockh34d> have played it quite a bit
[17:22] <steve_rox> great game
[17:22] <blockh34d> i just dont see myself as much of a crime fighter
[17:22] <blockh34d> there was one like it for dreamcast i used to love
[17:22] <steve_rox> its good with the vitua gun
[17:22] <blockh34d> i forget the name now but it was like virtua cop but with more /better missions
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[17:22] <steve_rox> control pad is too slow
[17:22] <blockh34d> oh yah for sure
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[17:22] <blockh34d> speaking of i plan to put eye tracking in this too
[17:23] <blockh34d> not really sure what to do with it but it'll make a good sort of 'mouse' if nothing else
[17:23] <steve_rox> when you blink it calls in airstrikes or something
[17:23] <blockh34d> thats what the EEG is for
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[17:23] <blockh34d> 'Sic em!'
[17:24] <blockh34d> i think this thing could be awesome for controlling one or more drones with
[17:24] <blockh34d> especially if they were largely autonomous, or able to be
[17:24] <blockh34d> so the user just controls them enough to get the job done, otherwise they autopilot
[17:24] <steve_rox> hmmmz real time vid of it with hud
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[17:24] <blockh34d> yes
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[17:24] <blockh34d> that hud is why theres so many pi's involved
[17:25] <blockh34d> if i didnt need a hud i could do most of this without a computer
[17:25] <blockh34d> eventually i want to make a 3d version of the earth and overlay it on the camera, aligned
[17:25] <blockh34d> so if its total dark, smoke/clouds etc, you can still see well enough to navigate
[17:25] <steve_rox> one ambitious project
[17:25] <blockh34d> yeah
[17:26] <blockh34d> it really is
[17:26] <blockh34d> but i think if i can make a neat enough prototype, bam, kickstarter
[17:26] <blockh34d> put a million dollars in my pocket and i can make much of this pseudo-science a reality
[17:26] <steve_rox> hmm 3d reality representation of the lan
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[17:26] <blockh34d> and file systems
[17:26] <blockh34d> 3d file systems ftw
[17:26] <steve_rox> might end up like the lawn mower man
[17:26] <blockh34d> i already am actually
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[17:27] <blockh34d> but i'm more lik ethe one from the book
[17:27] <blockh34d> i work demolition and construction
[17:27] <blockh34d> maybe the most mindless job i can find
[17:27] <blockh34d> i feel like lawnmower man sometimes
[17:27] <blockh34d> ever read the story?
[17:27] <steve_rox> er no
[17:27] <blockh34d> its so wildly different than the movie, i dont know how or why they reused the name
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[17:28] <blockh34d> both by stephen king, but incredibly different and totally unrelated stories
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[17:28] <blockh34d> this could probably be very good for games too
[17:28] <blockh34d> i have a game about being a bird i might port to it
[17:29] <blockh34d> i call it an 'ecology simulator', its a life simulator of certain animals, birds for first edition
[17:29] <steve_rox> as long as you dont have to flap your arms like your on a nintendo wii
[17:29] <blockh34d> probably no flapping
[17:29] <steve_rox> haha
[17:29] <blockh34d> but i dunno... i kinda want to flap
[17:29] <blockh34d> there may be at least gliding
[17:29] <blockh34d> with your arms, who knows
[17:30] <steve_rox> what would ppl think if they saw you with that headgear on flappping about the place
[17:30] <blockh34d> i dunno i was out in my front yard raking leaves up with that on yesterday
[17:30] <blockh34d> no one seemed to notice or car
[17:30] <blockh34d> care... i think people are kind of numb in 'the ghetto'
[17:30] <steve_rox> could give it shape reconition maybe
[17:31] <blockh34d> yes i have some wavelet transform based recognition i made in the past, cuold be very good for somet stuff
[17:31] <blockh34d> if only there was a 'metal detector' camera
[17:31] <blockh34d> like thermal Flir except it only sees metal outlines
[17:31] <steve_rox> reconise and identify guns and stuff
[17:31] <blockh34d> right
[17:31] <blockh34d> as is my code can recognize any letter using typical fonts, in any size or orientation
[17:32] <blockh34d> so it would maybe work for that idea too
[17:32] <blockh34d> with a big enough gun image database anyways
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[17:32] <blockh34d> now all i need to do is go fight some crime
[17:32] <blockh34d> i'm really under-motivated in that category though
[17:32] <blockh34d> usually feel sorry for your lower level criminals
[17:32] <steve_rox> what super hero name would you have
[17:33] <blockh34d> Disco
[17:33] <steve_rox> :-D hehe
[17:33] <blockh34d> http://s14.postimg.org/59a7d8o1d/disco_monster_1_exp_small.png
[17:33] <blockh34d> thats a monster i drew for my Disco story
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[17:34] <steve_rox> how scary
[17:34] <blockh34d> i have a whole crazy story written out about a comic book char named disco with basically similar gear
[17:34] <steve_rox> like somethin you would face in doom
[17:34] <blockh34d> yes thats what happens when one of the badguys eats maybe 3 other ones
[17:34] <blockh34d> becomes a polymorphic death machine
[17:35] <steve_rox> someones gotta do it
[17:35] <blockh34d> yah disco is, i think, an awesome story for exactly that reason
[17:35] <blockh34d> he never explains himself or asks for forgiveness, just identifies these people and hunts them down
[17:36] <steve_rox> like a terminator
[17:36] <blockh34d> some day maybe i'll get it sorted out
[17:36] <steve_rox> but less metal
[17:36] <blockh34d> yes just a little less metal
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[17:36] <steve_rox> hmm rpi judgement day
[17:37] <blockh34d> hey i keep thinking about releaseing it a few pages at a time on pi store, maybe i will
[17:37] <blockh34d> i think this story would connect with pi diy hobbyists
[17:37] <steve_rox> and scare them to death
[17:37] <blockh34d> yes theres some prety gritty imagery
[17:38] <blockh34d> i actually cant describe it very much in a FF chan
[17:38] <blockh34d> so i wont
[17:38] <steve_rox> hehe
[17:38] <steve_rox> damn im so tired
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[17:38] <blockh34d> go sleep then m8
[17:38] <blockh34d> sleep dep is basically like giving yourself aids
[17:38] <steve_rox> gonna passout soon
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[17:38] <blockh34d> on a physical level they're actually really similar
[17:38] <steve_rox> not sure about that
[17:38] <blockh34d> it weakens your immune system
[17:38] <blockh34d> quite a bit
[17:39] <blockh34d> sleep is your bodies way of healing itself
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[17:39] <blockh34d> yah it sounds unlikely but i have it on good authority
[17:39] <blockh34d> i've done my EMT training, scored very well on all tests, that summary description was from one of my best teachers
[17:39] <steve_rox> respect my athoritaa
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[17:40] <blockh34d> lol cartman
[17:40] <blockh34d> i wish southpark was still funny
[17:40] <steve_rox> :-D
[17:40] <steve_rox> its erratic now
[17:40] <blockh34d> yah too poltical and on the wrong side all the time
[17:40] <blockh34d> fascistpark
[17:41] <steve_rox> oh well
[17:41] <blockh34d> now bobs burgers makes me laugh
[17:41] <blockh34d> kristen shawl (sp?) is just a riot
[17:42] <blockh34d> and archer, same voice actor in both, also a very funny show
[17:43] <steve_rox> sleepyz
[17:43] <blockh34d> just got up here
[17:43] <blockh34d> lil before noon in ohio
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[17:54] <Demon_Jester> Guys I need some help, I compiled nmap, and metasploit on my raspberry pi (running raspbian) and after I got done with compiling the two, I go to restart my raspberry pi, andn o its not getting assigned a ip from my router. My question is how do I fix this so I can ssh back into my raspberry pi
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[17:54] <Demon_Jester> and now its*
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[18:49] <AbbyTheRat> have you try rebooting the pi first?
[18:49] <AbbyTheRat> like, for second time, just in case?
[18:49] <AbbyTheRat> assuming Demon_Jester was still here, ha
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[18:52] <ShorTie> got my screen yesterday AbbyTheRat .. :)~
[18:52] <AbbyTheRat> nice ShorTie :)
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[18:53] <AbbyTheRat> I order chromecast yesterday too
[18:53] <AbbyTheRat> it came today..
[18:53] <AbbyTheRat> I got the free shipping, said it should arrive by tuesday nextweek
[18:53] <AbbyTheRat> o_o
[18:53] <AbbyTheRat> I'm pleasently surprised
[18:54] <AbbyTheRat> I was expecting my adafuirt stuff to arrive first
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[18:55] <ShorTie> Cool
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[18:55] <ShorTie> https://www.dropbox.com/s/44llq11uhhyyq8g/IMAG0004.JPG
[18:56] <AbbyTheRat> ahhh :D chromecast is up and running ^_^
[18:56] <ShorTie> sweet
[18:56] <malfunct> the chromecast is pretty cool
[18:57] <AbbyTheRat> looks niceeee :D
[18:58] <malfunct> I wish netflix on chromecast had an option to automatically start the next show in the series
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[18:58] <AbbyTheRat> netflix on wii doesn't do that either :/
[18:58] <malfunct> I got really used to it from netflix on xbox
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[18:59] <malfunct> if I had an extra $100 I'd try out the new amazon set top box
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[19:05] <AbbyTheRat> Awesome
[19:05] <AbbyTheRat> Okie, seem to be working nicely
[19:06] <AbbyTheRat> Wally not going to be happy, he's use to using the wii for netflix XD
[19:06] <malfunct> I really wish my TV were new enough that the chromecast could control it and be powered from it
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[19:08] <AbbyTheRat> mhm
[19:08] <AbbyTheRat> mine has USB port
[19:08] <AbbyTheRat> so that's useful :)
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[19:09] <AbbyTheRat> which is also useful for me since I can now steal that plug and use for another USB device
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[19:10] <malfunct> its even nicer when the HDMI port itself provides enough power
[19:11] <malfunct> not many TV's can do it, but it is pretty cool
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[19:13] <AbbyTheRat> mine was cheap .. ish
[19:13] <AbbyTheRat> not great but it's nice
[19:13] <AbbyTheRat> the remote doesn't work
[19:13] <AbbyTheRat> I've been meaning to find out why
[19:14] <AbbyTheRat> I don't think it's the remote.. I think it's the TV not receiving signals for some reason
[19:14] <AbbyTheRat> so you can understand why I'm.. nervous about opening up the TV
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[19:16] <Newk> it very dangerous to open oldskool CTR TVs or monitors.. just saying
[19:17] <Newk> *CTR
[19:17] <Newk> ack
[19:17] <Newk> *CRT
[19:17] <AbbyTheRat> LCD TV
[19:18] <AbbyTheRat> and I've opened up CRT <_<
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[19:18] <AbbyTheRat> that was heart racing
[19:18] <Newk> k just make sure its not plugged then :p
[19:18] <shiftplusone> Opening them isn't dangerous. Getting electrocuted by them is.
[19:18] <Newk> sure
[19:18] <AbbyTheRat> shocked*
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[19:18] <AbbyTheRat> can't assume it'll kill every time
[19:19] <Newk> never tried :3
[19:19] <shiftplusone> true
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[19:19] <shiftplusone> So... open all the gadgets you want, just don't get shocked =P
[19:19] <shiftplusone> </bad advice>
[19:20] <AbbyTheRat> XD
[19:20] <AbbyTheRat> it's also the only tv I have
[19:20] <AbbyTheRat> SOOOOOO
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[19:21] <Newk> anyone here know how to do 3D visuals on the Pi and controll them with something like Pure Data?
[19:21] * shiftplusone looks up Pure Data
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[19:22] <Newk> because GEM from Pd isnt ported to OpenGL ES (yet, if ever)
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[19:23] <AbbyTheRat> whelp, time to get out of my zebra onsies and into some clothes to pick Wally up in <_<
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[19:28] <AbbyTheRat> arghh! I can't find any of my jeans
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[19:34] <AbbyTheRat> ugh
[19:34] <AbbyTheRat> *Goes to laundary basket* >_<
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[19:46] * IT_Sean hides all of AbbyTheRat's jeans
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[19:47] * AbbyTheRat looks at IT_Sean, looking all suspsitions.. and makes a mental note to look up how to spell that word
[19:47] * IT_Sean laughs
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[19:47] <IT_Sean> Suspicious, AbbyTheRat, i think is the word you are looking for
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[19:48] <AbbyTheRat> Thanks
[19:48] <IT_Sean> No problem.
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[19:50] <Raynerd> Anyone ever set up moodle - OT, sorry :-(
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[19:50] <shiftplusone> what's a moodle?
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[19:50] <shiftplusone> ah... sort of like Blackboard?
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[19:51] <shiftplusone> are you setting it up on the pi?
[19:52] <AbbyTheRat> hello Raynerd :)
[19:52] <AbbyTheRat> hey Raynerd, maybe you could help me now :)
[19:52] <Raynerd> yes?
[19:53] <Raynerd> AbbyTheRat
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[19:53] <AbbyTheRat> you did say you worked eletortics :)
[19:53] <Raynerd> how can I help.
[19:53] <AbbyTheRat> I tested the voltage on the clock.. what parts would I need to keep it safe XD
[19:54] <AbbyTheRat> http://pastebin.com/22eBuwdj
[19:54] <AbbyTheRat> da voltages~
[19:55] <AbbyTheRat> I figure resisters but which ones <_<;
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[19:55] <Raynerd> I have done some electronics but no where like the guys on here! I`m more mechanics!
[19:56] <AbbyTheRat> oh boo :P
[19:56] <Raynerd> I`m here to try and help :-)
[19:56] <Raynerd> I`m not clear on what you are showing me and what you are trying the achieve?
[19:56] <AbbyTheRat> eardropping on it with the pi
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[19:56] * ShorTie concures
[19:57] <AbbyTheRat> what con are you trying to cure?
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[19:57] <Raynerd> your con... now what is it your trying to work out ;-)
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[19:58] <AbbyTheRat> what data is being sent to the clock. Eardropping it with the pi so I could get the data I need to then reverse engineer and send data to the clock to get the effective I need.
[19:59] <AbbyTheRat> effect*
[19:59] <billfoster> AbbeyTheRat What clock?
[19:59] <AbbyTheRat> link in the paste bin <_<;
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[20:02] <billfoster> AbbeyTheRat Curiosity: why trying to reverse engineer said clock?
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[20:02] <Raynerd> Are you intending to use an external crystal or just pull the time from the Pi
[20:02] <AbbyTheRat> o_O I've been talking about this! XD
[20:02] <AbbyTheRat> I want to use the LCD display in my project
[20:02] <AbbyTheRat> the clock face LCD from that clock
[20:03] <billfoster> K, sorry, I just joined here this morning. :)
[20:03] <AbbyTheRat> I know, I was talking to Raynerd thou XD;;
[20:03] <AbbyTheRat> pull time pi, it can do more then just display time thou
[20:03] <Raynerd> so you just using the pi time not a 32768hhz osc.
[20:03] <AbbyTheRat> I could get a RTC, might be helpful to me but for now.. pi
[20:04] <Raynerd> :-(
[20:04] <AbbyTheRat> I don't want the clock, just the LCD display and display the time from the pi and stuff
[20:04] <Raynerd> build you own... ...but anyway
[20:04] <Raynerd> I see
[20:04] <AbbyTheRat> there isn't a data sheet for that clock face
[20:04] <Raynerd> Have you got the LCD?
[20:05] * billfoster minds his own biznatch. :)
[20:05] <AbbyTheRat> the clock LCD?
[20:05] <AbbyTheRat> yeah o_o?
[20:05] <Raynerd> yes
[20:05] <IT_Sean> Mind if i ask why you are using that clock face specifically, and not something like a character LCD, which you could _very easily_ display whatever text you wanted on?
[20:05] <Raynerd> Was just thinking
[20:05] <AbbyTheRat> no, to display a clock face
[20:05] <AbbyTheRat> cause you know.. time
[20:05] <Raynerd> why not a glcd
[20:05] <Raynerd> ?
[20:05] <AbbyTheRat> I DO have a LCD coming anyway
[20:06] <Raynerd> IT_Sean - that would be a bit boaring
[20:06] <IT_Sean> You could easily display time & date, or whatever, on, say, a 2 line character LCD. Just seems like that would be a hullva lot easier than trying to reuse an undocumented clock face.
[20:06] <Raynerd> but then there is no project there
[20:06] <AbbyTheRat> this one https://www.adafruit.com/products/498, but I want to add the LCD clock face cause that clock has varies broken plastic so I couldn't adjust volume or brightness
[20:07] <Raynerd> Yes, those LCDs are good, I have a handful down in my workshop
[20:08] <Raynerd> I haven`t used one with a Pi, but with plenty of Arduino`s and PICs
[20:08] <AbbyTheRat> mhm, but I really liked the look of the clock face from this LCD display and so I figured.. well, since the clock has broken parts.. I could steal the LCD from that for my project and use it to display the time
[20:08] <AbbyTheRat> and just have other infomation displayed in my other LCD
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[20:09] <Raynerd> I agree that is certainly a better project... using an LCD would be a few minutes of a job
[20:09] <AbbyTheRat> hence my desire to eardrop on the clock
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[20:10] <shiftplusone> eardrop? not evesdrop?
[20:10] <AbbyTheRat> that >_<
[20:10] <shiftplusone> Is this another 'leaking heart'?
[20:11] <AbbyTheRat> >_<
[20:11] <shiftplusone> =P
[20:11] * AbbyTheRat waves her arm in embrassment
[20:11] <shiftplusone> *eavesdrop even (yay, I failed too)
[20:11] <IT_Sean> jeeez... none of you can spell today!
[20:11] <AbbyTheRat> but yes, that on the clock so I can then take the LCD clock face and use it for my project.
[20:11] <IT_Sean> imlr!
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[20:12] <blockh34d> anyone here hacked a kinect to a pi yet?
[20:12] <IT_Sean> "hacked a kinect to a pi"? to do what, exactly.
[20:12] <AbbyTheRat> the voltage from the clock is a little funny so I guess I will need resisters for it
[20:12] <CDR`> Would the rPi be powerful enough for web scraping with BeautifulSoup? I read somewhere that it wouldn't be but can't see why not?
[20:12] <AbbyTheRat> but I fail maths >_>;
[20:12] <blockh34d> i want to staple one to my face
[20:12] <blockh34d> maybe two
[20:12] <blockh34d> or four
[20:12] <blockh34d> depends
[20:13] <blockh34d> one for now
[20:13] <blockh34d> hi AbbyTheRat how goes the clock
[20:13] <AbbyTheRat> Wee, helpful bunch you guys are! :P
[20:13] <Raynerd> I agree that is certainly a better project... using an LCD would be a few minutes of a job3rt
[20:14] <blockh34d> yah these lil lcds just click together
[20:14] <blockh34d> i like using stacked cardboard to improvise a housing
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[20:14] <blockh34d> works out pretty solid and sets up the template for proper cutouts to be made working the same way
[20:14] <AbbyTheRat> -_-
[20:15] <blockh34d> but i also like to layer on the metal tape and that stuff seems to add up after a few layers, i think that hleps a lot
[20:15] <AbbyTheRat> but I really like the clock face D:
[20:15] <IT_Sean> :(
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[20:15] <AbbyTheRat> I wouldn't bother going to reverse engineering it :/
[20:15] * IT_Sean tosses AbbyTheRat an Adafruit RGB backlit character LCD
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[20:16] <blockh34d> maybe hang onto it and watch for an open project to pop up so you can have more info to work from
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[20:18] <AbbyTheRat> look, http://imgur.com/a/MZbbA this is what I'm trying to reverse engineer
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[20:18] <shiftplusone> no logic analyzer?
[20:19] <AbbyTheRat> http://imgur.com/a/MZbbA#enhcESE I want to use this clock face for my project as a way to display time instead of a bunch of numbers from my RGB LCD and it'll give me a few characters to use for another infomation
[20:19] <IT_Sean> That's gonna be really really hard without a datasheet or a logic sniffer
[20:19] <blockh34d> maybe if you could sample real output from teh original controller
[20:19] <blockh34d> like wire it up but sit in the middle and log it all
[20:19] <AbbyTheRat> exactly, I DO have the original control.. and yes
[20:19] <AbbyTheRat> exactly, blockh34d!
[20:19] <blockh34d> but even then, you'd need to know baudrate and parity and everything i think
[20:19] <shiftplusone> Shouldn't be that hard, since the pinout is already given... but you're not going to figure it out with jut a multimeter.
[20:20] <blockh34d> not really sure how you'd do that plan in the real world. sounds good to me on paper though
[20:20] <AbbyTheRat> I know! But it'll give me voltage so now I can make sure I don't frie the pi when I attempt to hook it to the pi to log the data
[20:20] <blockh34d> yah i think maybe the pi could log that data
[20:20] <blockh34d> whats that puredata about?
[20:20] <blockh34d> i think its for exactly this if i had to guess
[20:21] <AbbyTheRat> pure data? I never mentioned that o-O?
[20:21] <AbbyTheRat> CARYH GUI GOTTA GO BUS BYE
[20:21] <blockh34d> i've heard about it used as a audio sampling/effects source
[20:21] <blockh34d> cya
[20:21] <shiftplusone> Enjoy the... bus... I guess.
[20:21] <IT_Sean> eeeew
[20:21] <IT_Sean> busses are ick
[20:21] <blockh34d> its the urban adventure
[20:22] <IT_Sean> It;s a source of urban plague
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[20:22] <blockh34d> will you get robbed? assaulted? scarred for life? spin the wheel.
[20:22] <blockh34d> it should be a game show
[20:22] <IT_Sean> Or will you just catch a disease from the person sitting next to you?
[20:22] <blockh34d> 'Ride the Bus'
[20:22] <blockh34d> i just got used to running everywhere
[20:22] <IT_Sean> That sounds like a terrible game, blockh34d.
[20:23] <shiftplusone> buses are strange in your part of the world
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[20:23] <IT_Sean> In who's part of the world?
[20:23] <blockh34d> You just have to sucsussfully survive the bus ride
[20:23] <shiftplusone> Over here, the worst thing that will happen is that a drunk guy will mumble something racist.
[20:23] <blockh34d> and you get bonus for arive in one piece as healthy as you left, with all your possessions, or more maybe
[20:24] <blockh34d> the bus is like GTA herre
[20:24] <blockh34d> in columbus ohio
[20:24] <shiftplusone> Ah... over here it's like transport.
[20:24] <blockh34d> they will seriously stab and rob you out of nowhere for your phone
[20:24] <blockh34d> run out the door and get away with it
[20:24] <blockh34d> its absurd
[20:24] <shiftplusone> the bus will?
[20:24] <blockh34d> yes hodlums every one
[20:24] <blockh34d> not like the busses when i grew up
[20:24] <shiftplusone> Haven't been mugged by a bus yet... or at all for that matter.
[20:25] <blockh34d> rough neighborhood around here
[20:25] <blockh34d> the mopeds wwill stab you
[20:25] <shiftplusone> geez
[20:25] <IT_Sean> It's not that bad here... here the busses just start to smell of stale urine after about 3 in the afternoon.
[20:25] <blockh34d> this is perfect i have the original buttons from this lame-o toy my hmd used to be
[20:26] <blockh34d> they're actually kind of perfect for general purpose i/o, two buttons and a trimmer
[20:26] <blockh34d> at least here the busdriver doesnt help rape you
[20:26] <blockh34d> like in i thin india?
[20:26] <blockh34d> oh sorry
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[20:27] <blockh34d> new topic i think
[20:27] <IT_Sean> Aye
[20:27] <shiftplusone> India is a big place. The horrible stuff usually happens in remote areas. But again, no need to get into details in this channel.
[20:27] <blockh34d> busses here not FF
[20:27] <IT_Sean> New topic
[20:27] <IT_Sean> FF?
[20:27] <blockh34d> family friendly
[20:27] <IT_Sean> Ah
[20:27] <blockh34d> so discussing them probably isnt either
[20:28] <blockh34d> anyone tried puredate?
[20:28] <blockh34d> puredata i mean
[20:28] <blockh34d> puredate would be a good dating site name though maybe
[20:28] <shiftplusone> The guy who asked it about half an hour ago would've, I suppose.
[20:28] <blockh34d> oh i missed that
[20:28] <blockh34d> hacking it up with the hmd
[20:29] <blockh34d> which needs a better name btw
[20:29] <shiftplusone> Newwk
[20:29] <blockh34d> i'm open to suggestions
[20:29] <blockh34d> Newwk?
[20:29] <shiftplusone> -w
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[20:29] <blockh34d> Newk?
[20:29] <blockh34d> does that stand for something?
[20:29] <shiftplusone> Stands for the name of the guy asking about pd earlier.
[20:29] <blockh34d> oic
[20:29] <blockh34d> thanks
[20:30] <blockh34d> nothing i'm really working with yet but i think about it
[20:30] <blockh34d> i hear of it used to accomodate a sort of line input via spio
[20:30] <blockh34d> so i think could that maybe work for lores video input?
[20:30] <blockh34d> but i think probably not
[20:30] <blockh34d> maybe for these eye tracking ir emitter/recievers though
[20:30] <blockh34d> might be perfect for that
[20:31] <Newk> hm?
[20:31] <blockh34d> oh i was thinking about puredata so i thought i'd ask if anyone knew of its use much here
[20:32] <blockh34d> since i like to chat about things a bit before really diving in
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[20:32] <blockh34d> your nick came up as someone asking about it earlier today so hello
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[20:32] <blockh34d> i'm thinking about using an IR emitter/reciever combo to measure eye position
[20:33] <blockh34d> for eye tracking realtime and so i think maybe puredata is good for that
[20:33] <Newk> well it already works on the Pi... its also in the repo of Raspian but its graphic thing GEM doesnt support OpenGL-ES yet
[20:33] <blockh34d> is it usable from python?
[20:33] <Newk> hi to you too sir :)
[20:33] <blockh34d> like programatically?
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[20:34] <blockh34d> i actually thought it was more of a library
[20:34] <blockh34d> but that was just a guess from hearing it mentioned a couple times
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[20:34] <Newk> dunno if there is a python bridge already.. but sure would be doable.. the objects in puredata are written in C
[20:35] <blockh34d> oh well easy enough then
[20:35] <blockh34d> i'm cool with C i just find myself using python a lot on pi
[20:35] <blockh34d> pi/py just clicks with me heh
[20:35] <Newk> :p
[20:35] <blockh34d> also what came up earlier, brought it up for me actually, was if AbbyTheRat could use puredata to log output to a device's proprietary display
[20:36] <blockh34d> so she could then replay/disect that output to learn a protocol
[20:36] <blockh34d> and control the display from a PI without the original thing, a clock i think
[20:36] <Newk> ah thats allready some visual work then
[20:37] <blockh34d> would puredata be good for that, like if pi was listening in on that serial communication and logging it?
[20:37] <blockh34d> yah i'm thinking for AbbyTheRat maybe a premade UI for this might be enough, just needs it one time
[20:37] <blockh34d> but for me it'll be built into a HMD i'm working on
[20:37] <blockh34d> so i want lightest footprint possible
[20:37] <blockh34d> cpu-wise
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[20:38] <blockh34d> http://imgur.com/a/MZbba = device Abby is trying to interface to btw
[20:38] <blockh34d> looks like you could watch data and sck? data and clock signal?
[20:39] <blockh34d> sck = clock is just my guess, not sure
[20:39] <Newk> i would like to start out with Pd for programming and add objects i need by learning a bit of C to be able.. i am just more comfortable with visual programming and Scratch seems too limited
[20:40] <blockh34d> pythons been a good fit for me
[20:40] <Newk> ah dinnertime first :p
[20:40] <blockh34d> it feels so simple its almost visual to me
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[20:40] <blockh34d> <3 the simplicity of python
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[21:07] <blockh34d> what is best way to trick rpi into working under 500ma supply?
[21:07] <blockh34d> unplug everything and run totally headless? done
[21:07] <shiftplusone> 'trick' ?
[21:07] <blockh34d> except picam, have to keep that
[21:07] <blockh34d> yah i hear i think you say processor takes 350ma draw?
[21:07] <shiftplusone> with the camera, I don't think it'll happen.
[21:07] <blockh34d> so can i get it under 500 is my goal
[21:07] <shiftplusone> I forget, do you need usb + ethernet?
[21:07] <blockh34d> since ihave a two plug 12v supply here and would like to run both pi's off it
[21:08] <blockh34d> well ethernet probably
[21:08] <shiftplusone> if you can do without USB (which includes ethernet), you may have a chance.
[21:08] <blockh34d> eventually, and maybe a lot/ongoing... hard to say, clever's trying to talk me into keeping it all on the pi, QPU style etc... really does sound like a good way to do it
[21:08] <blockh34d> oh i should turn off those camera led's
[21:08] <blockh34d> disable_camera_led
[21:08] <blockh34d> actually as many led's as possible
[21:09] <blockh34d> that camera one is crazy bright too, its kinda funny
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[21:14] <blockh34d> actually 1000ma is driving one pi and two 2.5 lcds no problem
[21:14] <blockh34d> and then another supply at 1000 for the other pi so its all off one battery
[21:16] <blockh34d> small car battery but it's semi portable
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[21:20] <Demon_Jester> hey guys hows it going?
[21:20] <blockh34d> great thanks how about yourself
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[21:21] <Demon_Jester> well its such a nice day outside... I decided to compile metasploit... again...
[21:21] <blockh34d> sounds blackhattish
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[21:21] <Demon_Jester> naa its on my own network I have, with VM and cheap router
[21:21] <blockh34d> good stuff
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[21:22] <blockh34d> how goes the compile? long and neverending?
[21:22] <blockh34d> i'm consolidating my hmd's many power needs
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[21:23] <Demon_Jester> YES, last night I made quick shell script to compile, and made sure all packages would be installed so when I woke up it would be done, and it was done, but I also compiled nmap and tcpdump, which somehow corrupt my rpi
[21:23] <Demon_Jester> so i reformatted and just compiling metasploit, and using sudo apt-get on tcpdump and nmap
[21:23] <Demon_Jester> hopefully nothing get corrupted this time.
[21:23] <blockh34d> maybe you use dd to take an image?
[21:24] <blockh34d> setup a "restore point"?
[21:24] <Demon_Jester> on raspbian? idk if I can do that, when I hooked up my rpi to my roommates hdtv, in console it would spit out fsck died with exit status 4 (sometimes 8)
[21:25] <Demon_Jester> and i tried different solutions but none of them worked.
[21:25] <blockh34d> ouch well after you get it to good shape again then
[21:25] <Demon_Jester> so I ended up reformatting the sd card
[21:25] <blockh34d> like you get it as far as you know works then image it
[21:25] <blockh34d> theres a dd sort of thing for windoze
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[21:25] <blockh34d> win32diskimager i think, opensource/free
[21:25] <Demon_Jester> so i am right about imaging, it basically replicates your OS with installed packages, too?
[21:26] <blockh34d> everything abou tthe disk
[21:26] <Demon_Jester> nvm im thinking of something else.
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[21:26] <blockh34d> just used it last night to clone one sdcard to another for the HMD's one pi per eye config
[21:26] <Demon_Jester> oh
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[21:27] <blockh34d> works perfect but i think you may want to change the hostname or whatever so the pi's got a different network id? not an issue with my setup yet but sounds likely
[21:27] <blockh34d> i kind of prefer ip anyways
[21:27] <blockh34d> for no real good reason other than a lack of faith in name based networking
[21:28] <Demon_Jester> HMD? I always change the hostname on mine, I have one that has hostname of minecraft server and the one im compiling now has hacklabtester (for my hack lab in the corner of my room.. lol)
[21:28] <blockh34d> HMD = head mounted display, mine is http://s13.postimg.org/kvykdw2dz/IMG_2521.jpg as of yesterday
[21:29] <blockh34d> its evolving over time though, today its already a bit different looking
[21:29] <blockh34d> thats HMD + cameras
[21:29] <blockh34d> so a sort of immersive AR
[21:29] <Demon_Jester> whats HMD used for? I have seen them couple of times but never really looked into them.
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[21:29] <blockh34d> i call this my Day Vision Goggles
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[21:29] <blockh34d> they enable the user to see in complete daylight
[21:30] <Demon_Jester> if they have sensitive eyes?
[21:30] <blockh34d> heh
[21:30] <blockh34d> ;)
[21:30] <blockh34d> just a fancy way of saying they're useless
[21:30] <Demon_Jester> oh...
[21:30] <blockh34d> but they really arent they're just obscure in use
[21:30] <Demon_Jester> I would so make a night vision using IR
[21:30] <blockh34d> i see them for remote controlling drones
[21:30] <blockh34d> yes thats the idea
[21:30] <blockh34d> a home mmade predator helmet
[21:30] <Demon_Jester> oh my god
[21:31] <Demon_Jester> nice
[21:31] <blockh34d> with kinect based 3d, maybe a laser scanner, 3d overlay, etc
[21:31] <blockh34d> and FLIR's when/if i can afford 3k per eye
[21:31] <Demon_Jester> also Im planning to get quadcopter later this year, maybe mount a rpi with camera on it.
[21:31] <Demon_Jester> don't know though.
[21:31] <blockh34d> awesome
[21:31] <blockh34d> fyi i've heard people suggest 'snowball' microcops for that
[21:32] <Demon_Jester> oh really?
[21:32] <blockh34d> maybe worth a look, already has gps onboard and accel
[21:32] <blockh34d> rf etc
[21:32] <Demon_Jester> oh damn
[21:32] <blockh34d> kinda nice looking for drones
[21:32] <blockh34d> otherwise its very similar to pi with lesser gpu i think
[21:32] <blockh34d> microcomputers btw
[21:32] <blockh34d> not copters
[21:33] <blockh34d> i want to print out drones
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[21:33] <blockh34d> and maybe make robots that assemble them mostly automatically
[21:34] <blockh34d> too bad it is unlikely i could never make a motor with any level of usability
[21:34] <blockh34d> never/ever
[21:34] <Demon_Jester> im not coming across 'snowball' microcomputers, just those snowball microphones
[21:34] <blockh34d> second looking for link on other comupter
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[21:35] <blockh34d> www.calao-store.com/SKY-S9500-ULP-C12-SNOWBALL-SDK/en
[21:35] <blockh34d> fyi though that is a dead project
[21:35] <blockh34d> when those are gone its all gone
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[21:36] <blockh34d> looks fun for some stuff though, i think drones especially
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[21:37] <Demon_Jester> why is that project dead, comes with more features on it than the rpi? around the same price, too.
[21:37] <blockh34d> thats common, its a very competitive market
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[21:37] <blockh34d> these probably sold at cost
[21:37] <blockh34d> i think part of what you're gettin with pi is the community
[21:38] <Demon_Jester> hmmm it says 232 left in stock, I would have couple ideas for those.. actually i wonder how big they are.
[21:38] <blockh34d> and not that the price is padded for that, but you do pay for it in that its not free, someones got to
[21:38] <Demon_Jester> nvm i see that
[21:38] <blockh34d> should say
[21:38] <blockh34d> probably no really support structure for snowballs
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[21:42] <Demon_Jester> hmm if I can throw ubuntu variant on there I will like it but looks like some os i never heard of.
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[21:42] <Demon_Jester> looks like you can throw android on them?
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[22:04] <AbbyTheRat> I reurn
[22:05] <AbbyTheRat> and still can't spell
[22:05] <shiftplusone> wb
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[22:07] <AbbyTheRat> as long as it's not auto corrects <_<
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[22:10] <IT_Sean> Yuppers... autocorrect and everything
[22:10] <AbbyTheRat> Noooooooooooooooooooo~
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[22:16] <IT_Sean> yes, Yes, YEEEES!
[22:16] <IT_Sean> >:)
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[22:18] <AbbyTheRat> but it'll get me kicked from this channel if I were to slightly typo cook :/
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[22:18] <IT_Sean> Yes
[22:19] <IT_Sean> Yes it would.
[22:19] <IT_Sean> I would recommend great caution.
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[22:19] <AbbyTheRat> anyway, so blockh34d you were thinking that I could try using puredata to learn the protocals from my clock?
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[22:20] <IT_Sean> Protocols*
[22:20] * IT_Sean hides
[22:21] * AbbyTheRat faints
[22:23] * IT_Sean reboots AbbyTheRat
[22:23] <AbbyTheRat> and seriously, the bus here isn't that bad at all, I'm with shiftplusone, I don't have a problem o_o
[22:23] <AbbyTheRat> Hell, people give me their seats when I get on with Wally
[22:23] <AbbyTheRat> And, buses after 7pm, can stop anywhere along the route if you don't feel safe getting at your normal stop
[22:24] * IT_Sean has no idea where AbbyTheRat is
[22:24] <AbbyTheRat> Ottawa, Canada
[22:24] <IT_Sean> Ah... Canukistan.
[22:24] <AbbyTheRat> I'm not, not yet anyway
[22:24] <AbbyTheRat> Kid is
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[22:31] <IT_Sean> "Canada. America's wool cap"
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[22:32] * ShorTie snickers
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[22:36] * AbbyTheRat roll eyes
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[22:47] <AbbyTheRat> smartass
[22:47] * IT_Sean clears his throat
[22:48] <shiftplusone> uhoh
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[22:48] <IT_Sean> smartbutt, i believe you meant?
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[22:49] <AbbyTheRat> hmm? huh.. but.. I tell kids they are are a smartbutt all the time.. only my old way cause you know..
[22:49] <AbbyTheRat> cheeky, I Guess I could use cheeky
[22:49] <IT_Sean> better.
[22:49] <AbbyTheRat> but that doesn't have the same ring :(
[22:49] <AbbyTheRat> and it's a valid word for donkey too D:
[22:50] <IT_Sean> not in that context, it isn't. ..don't make me write you up.
[22:50] <AbbyTheRat> ;-; smart donkey
[22:50] <IT_Sean> You are lucky im packing to head home for the day.
[22:50] <AbbyTheRat> have a safe trip home!
[22:50] <IT_Sean> Thanks! :)
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[22:53] <Poison[BLX]> blockh34d: regarding that 'snowball' dev board there, it's the typical tradeoff of a bigger brother arm with a weaker mali-based gpu that you get with most arm dev boards outside the pi... but even though it has the higher clock and ram, it appears to have less (or at best, an equivalent) GPIO exposed. Outside of the pi, the only thing that's interested me in little arm boards is the BBB, since it's littered with GPIOs, which is great in a drone
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[23:21] <blockh34d> yeah that BBB looks nice i wanna try it
[23:21] <blockh34d> odroid u3 seems notable too
[23:21] <blockh34d> but it has even less gpio exposed i believe
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[23:22] <blockh34d> its a substantial achievement for me actually, the strain on my nose was adding up
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[23:22] <blockh34d> i like rpi best though
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[23:22] <blockh34d> it's just got a nice feeling to it, i like anything run by a nonprofit mostly
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[23:57] <daedeloth> I have made a very slight scaling error.
[23:57] <daedeloth> https://www.dropbox.com/s/uqc6mqxwun9qc9q/2014-04-09%2023.55.24.jpg
[23:57] <shiftplusone> looks fine to me
[23:57] <daedeloth> wait, better picutre
[23:57] <daedeloth> https://www.dropbox.com/s/givbnlctfa4c83o/2014-04-09%2023.55.34.jpg
[23:57] <daedeloth> I don't think this will work.
[23:57] <shiftplusone> yup, looks perfect
[23:58] <daedeloth> why the heck do they make those things so small?
[23:58] <shiftplusone> (in the future, buy the 'DIP' package version) XD
[23:58] <daedeloth> hehe
[23:58] <daedeloth> so, what now? I have $3 worth of those thigns!
[23:58] <shiftplusone> might have to sell the house
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[23:59] <daedeloth> I can't solder that. I've seen my soldering skills!
[23:59] <daedeloth> so. dip versions you say.
[23:59] <shiftplusone> Keep it for when you've comfortable with SMT.
[23:59] <shiftplusone> *you're
[23:59] <shiftplusone> what's the chip?

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