#raspberrypi IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2014-04-19

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[1:36] <phelix> Is there a configuration option I can do to increase my volume on my device?
[1:36] <phelix> its always so quite
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[1:59] <nerdboy> software and hardware volume control depending on what's installed
[2:00] <nerdboy> either alsamixer or whatever desktop volume control...
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[2:00] <nerdboy> also depends on the source material, some stuff just isn't very loud
[2:00] <nerdboy> at least out the analog jack without a preamp
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[2:01] <nerdboy> nominal "0 db" is about 85% in alsamixer
[2:01] <phelix> is there a config for it? When my system boots up I don't have access to a keyboard and mouse so i need to find a config to set the default volume
[2:02] <phelix> like retroarch.cfg ?
[2:02] <nerdboy> what distro?
[2:02] <phelix> i am using retropie
[2:02] <nerdboy> you should be able to set it so volume is saved/restroed
[2:03] <nerdboy> *restored even
[2:03] <nerdboy> simple setup uses alsa state file and init script to save/restore
[2:04] <nerdboy> the command it uses is alsactl
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[2:44] <johnc-> anybody know a way to create a small window (gtk or otherwise) to render on top of omxplayer for a short while?
[2:45] <nerdboy> something that uses clutter/cairo maybe?
[2:45] <nerdboy> omxplayer runs in a console, or X ?
[2:46] <johnc-> it's not an X application
[2:46] <johnc-> afaik it renders straight to the frame buffer
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[2:49] <nerdboy> clutter can overlay in that case, but something needs to use clutter to draw stuff
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[2:52] <johnc-> I don't think I've heard of clutter
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[3:10] <beaky> how do i use the hardware pwm in python
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[5:10] <johnarcher> anyone not running raspbian?
[5:10] <shiftplusone> of course
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[5:12] <johnarcher> what do you use
[5:13] <shiftplusone> Arch and OpenElec.
[5:13] <shiftplusone> but usually raspbian.
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[5:16] * nerdboy uses yocto
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[5:17] <johnarcher> Thanks. I had just wondered if I was missing out on something by using arch.
[5:17] <johnc-> I've seen some cool ui done with Qt on rpi, I'm so tempted to use it
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[5:18] <trohrt> NodeJS runs surprisingly nice on the raspberry pi
[5:19] <johnc-> nodejs makes me sad
[5:19] <trohrt> How so?
[5:20] <johnc-> javascript is nasty by itself, nodejs is... painful to use in anything larger than the most basic scripts
[5:20] <trohrt> I've seen some cool stuff built off of nodejs
[5:20] <johnc-> you can build cool stuff with it
[5:21] <johnc-> but using it for anything large racks up technical debt faster than anything I've seen
[5:21] <trohrt> I run a pokemon showdown server off of my pi
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[5:23] <tonsofpcs> I build warming stuff with my rpi... It can cool too but I don't have any cooling device to interface with...
[5:23] <johnarcher> What kind of warming stuff?
[5:23] <tonsofpcs> thermostat
[5:24] <johnarcher> That is neat. So far I have connected to this chat room with mine, and that is about it.
[5:24] <tonsofpcs> yay IRC
[5:25] <trohrt> I run a lighttpd server, a pokemon showdown server, and a media server off of mine
[5:25] <tonsofpcs> I run full apache for my control system... maybe I should run lighttpd instead - can it handle php?
[5:26] <johnc-> man, I saw that guy on reddit and hackaday who made sockets his pi could control; tried to contact him and got no response :(
[5:26] <tonsofpcs> I'm visiting the parents for the weekend and explaining to mom how thermostats and heating system controllers work.
[5:26] <tonsofpcs> johnc-: that's relatively easy to do.
[5:26] <trohrt> tonsofpcs: Idk. I just run a simple html site for personal use
[5:27] <tonsofpcs> johnc-: I've not done it with a pi but I do it with industrial controllers and I have a friend that's done it with a full PC and a pi. Do you have questions?
[5:27] <johnc-> yeah but I'm not much of a hardware hacker yet
[5:27] <johnarcher> I am hoping to mod my house (RV) to be completely controlled with it. Tank levels, thermostat, soundsystem
[5:28] <johnc-> I was interested in the cheap hardware is all
[5:28] <johnc-> his prices were well under the insteon/zwave/etc. stuff
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[5:30] <tonsofpcs> johnarcher: having a knowledge of thermostat design and some old programming knowledge, I started mid-day sunday on writing a thermostat and learning python at the same time. I had a functional thermostat on Monday and had fully replaced my programmable thermostat on tuesday. It took 3 or 4 days before I had a web interface to control it (Was using scripts in a shell before then) and 3 - 4 weeks before I had pretty charts (wasn't a p
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[5:34] <johnarcher> tonsofpcs: I am sure that it will take me much longer, but that is great. I have not even started researching. The two thermostats are analog I believe so they may need to be replaced.
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[6:46] <Gorwell> Hello, are the files from the raspberry pi repositories available anywhere else? Github is not working well for me
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[6:49] <snelly> Hi. My RP won't boot when I have a ribbon cable connected between the GPIO header and a breadboard. Any ideas why?
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[6:49] <snelly> and yes, i have avoid_safe_mode=1 in my config.txt
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[6:50] <shiftplusone> just the ribbon cable without anything attached on the other end?
[6:50] <snelly> but that won't work when my Pi is 90,000' above ground
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[6:51] <shiftplusone> and what do you mean by won't boot? you mention avoid_safe_mode, which has nothing to do with whether the pi will boot or not, but which kernel boots.
[6:52] <snelly> It never displays the rainbow screen and won't boot the Linux kernel
[6:52] <snelly> I believe that the Pi will boot into safe mode when GPIO pin #5 is pulled low
[6:53] <shiftplusone> yeah, by booting the emergency kernel instead.
[6:53] <snelly> it's a little shocking that simply plugging it into a breadboard would pull it low
[6:53] <snelly> but i used avoid_safe_mode to hopefully avoid that behavior
[6:53] <snelly> but it doesn't seem to work
[6:53] <shiftplusone> plugging it into a breadboard would not pull it low.
[6:53] <snelly> i certainly hope not ;)
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[6:55] <clever> snelly: try unpluging the breakout from the breadboard
[6:55] <clever> so you just have breakout board, ribbon, and pi
[6:55] <clever> what happens?
[6:55] <snelly> yep, it will boot if it's just the ribbon cable
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[6:55] <clever> what about with the adapter board, but no breadboard?
[6:56] <clever> a ribbon cable wont fit into a breadboard on its own
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[7:00] <snelly> omg, i'm an idiot
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[7:00] <snelly> so i plugged the ribbon cable into a header
[7:00] <snelly> and plugged that into the breadboard
[7:00] <clever> so its shorting out each pair of pins?
[7:00] <snelly> totally spacing that doing so shorts every pin on one side to the header to the pin on the other
[7:00] <snelly> exactly
[7:00] <snelly> lol
[7:01] <snelly> I can electronics.
[7:01] <clever> :D
[7:01] <shiftplusone> I thought that was what happened.
[7:01] <snelly> ok, so who makes the sweet breakout adapters?
[7:01] <evil_dan2wik> A lot of people
[7:01] <snelly> ideally one for permanent installation on a custom PCB
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[7:02] <clever> snelly: if your using a custom pcb of your own design, just get a socket for the ribbon and use that directly
[7:02] <clever> but if you plan to use a breadboard long-term, just use a breakout meant for that
[7:02] <clever> and oh crap, you where shorting the 5v rail into the 3.3v rail!
[7:02] <snelly> Good Guy Raspberry Pi: Gets its GPIO pins shorted to each other / Doesn't self-destruct
[7:03] <clever> i'm surprised its still alive
[7:03] <snelly> yeah, me too
[7:03] <clever> after having 5v shoved up the 3.3v rail
[7:03] <snelly> heh
[7:03] <clever> but maybe the polyfuse tripped
[7:03] <evil_dan2wik> The poly fuse will trip before anything major happens
[7:04] <shiftplusone> not sure that's true
[7:05] <clever> i would think the 5v rail could do damage on the 3.3v rail without pulling that much current
[7:05] <shiftplusone> there are all sorts of things that can happen before the polyfuse trips (which can take minutes)
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[7:06] <clever> and this ties in to what i was asking before
[7:06] <clever> if you put series resistors on the gpio, to limit the current a 5v source can supply
[7:06] <shiftplusone> we've been over this D=\
[7:06] <clever> your effectively doing a similar job to the polyfuse, your blocking it from allowing enough current to cause damage
[7:06] <clever> so, how does the polyfuse work when a series resistor doesnt?
[7:07] <clever> or does the polyfuse fail equally in this case?
[7:08] <shiftplusone> a series resistor 'works' in the sense that it slows down the damage enough for some people to consider it good enough
[7:08] <clever> so it can still cause damage long term, but it may take months or years?
[7:08] <evil_dan2wik> A resistor is a set resistance, it just heats up when overloaded. A poly fuse increases resistance when it heats up and is overloaded
[7:08] <shiftplusone> maybe, we don't know the internals.
[7:09] <clever> shiftplusone: yeah, too much unknowns
[7:09] <shiftplusone> but damage caused by current and damage caused by voltage are completely different. It doesn't matter if there is very little current, 5v on pins designed for 3.3v is not a good idea.
[7:09] <clever> NDA :(
[7:09] <tonsofpcs> clever: 5v to 3v3 to gnd even....
[7:09] <clever> and what would 5v on the 3.3v rail cause?
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[7:10] <shiftplusone> I would imagine it would fry the regulator before anything else, but I don't know.
[7:10] <evil_dan2wik> 5v on the 3.3v rail causes the regulator to overheat, the poly fuse to blow and some damage to the 3.3v chips
[7:10] <snelly> shit, i need a little breakout board
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[7:10] <snelly> of course, it's friday night, too :P
[7:10] <shiftplusone> snelly, family friendly channel and all that.
[7:10] <clever> snelly: i never really used the ribbon on mine, i used single wires, running randomly from the pi to the breadboard
[7:11] <evil_dan2wik> The regulator will use enough current to blow the poly fuse
[7:11] <snelly> shiftplusone: lol, sorry. are there utah peoples here? :)
[7:11] <clever> evil_dan2wik: hmmm, yeah, its trying to draw its output down to 3.3v relative to ground, sinking the extra current
[7:11] <clever> evil_dan2wik: and the output is tied to 5
[7:12] <clever> snelly: let me find a link...
[7:12] <snelly> yeah, i have some female jumpers. that will have to do
[7:12] <clever> snelly: https://www.sparkfun.com/products/9139
[7:12] <clever> male/female wires
[7:12] <snelly> yep, have piles of those
[7:12] <clever> female end fits right on the gpio header
[7:12] <clever> male end into the breadboard
[7:12] <snelly> they're kind of janky though
[7:12] <clever> i got a 100 pack of each type so i cant run out again
[7:12] <snelly> the SF ones anyway
[7:13] <clever> there are 2 types ive seen, ones with cheap round rubber ends
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[7:13] <clever> and the square plastic crimp on ends
[7:13] <clever> the square ones seem better quality to me
[7:13] <snelly> the pins on mine seem just every so slightly too small
[7:13] <clever> ive found mine to be a bit large, takes a lot of force to get it into a breadboard
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[7:16] <[Saint]> I just have a spool of 18 AWG wire, a box of male pin headers, a box of female pin headers, and a stripper/crimper/general-purpose termination tool on my desk.
[7:16] <clever> thats just cheating :P
[7:16] <[Saint]> 1km of wire lasts a *really* long time. ;)
[7:16] <snelly> lol
[7:17] <clever> i dont think ive bought a spool of wire yet
[7:17] <clever> i have several boxes of telephone cable
[7:17] <clever> i just keep cutting lenghts out of it
[7:17] <[Saint]> Mine...errr...fell off the back of a business.
[7:17] <clever> lol :D
[7:17] <[Saint]> Err, I mean, truck.
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[7:18] <[Saint]> I also have about 3km of CAT6 that was givin to me by my old next door neighbor.
[7:18] <[Saint]> He got fired and took it out on the company supply room.
[7:18] <clever> lol
[7:19] <[Saint]> Entirely unsurprisingly, he was fired for theft as a servant.
[7:19] <[Saint]> They couldn't _prove_ it, but, they knew.
[7:20] <clever> i happen to have a ton of short cat5 cables
[7:20] <[Saint]> An outsource installer for a rather large monitored alarm company.
[7:20] <clever> the xray machines my dad works on always come with a short ~5 foot cat5 in the keyboard&mouse package
[7:20] <clever> which he never needs
[7:20] <[Saint]> He installed our alarm out of bits and pieces from his garage.
[7:20] <clever> ive got atleast 20 pounds worth of power cords in a box downstairs as well
[7:21] <snelly> time to hook up this little Trimble GPS
[7:21] <[Saint]> He was constantly rescuing items from the chipper, which is pretty dodgy really as they were supposed to be destroyed for a reason (usually because they contain sensitive data).
[7:21] <evil_dan2wik> I rip cables out of what ever I can find. My current source of wires is a large laser printer.
[7:21] <[Saint]> But he would just short the storage to clear it and resell it.
[7:21] <snelly> too bad no linux GPS drivers (from what I can tell) support TSIP
[7:21] <[Saint]> evil_dan2wik: Heh.
[7:22] <Tachyon`> old IDE cables or cat5 cables are a useful source of wire
[7:22] <clever> evil_dan2wik: ive got a box bigger then that, of just power cords alone
[7:22] <[Saint]> When I moved to my new place, I threw out 27 jug cords.
[7:23] <[Saint]> I still have several dozen.
[7:23] <[Saint]> I swear they breed.
[7:23] <[Saint]> Hmmm...is "jug cord" semi-universal?
[7:23] <Tachyon`> biros probably turn into power cords
[7:23] <evil_dan2wik> They don't breed, they just come back.
[7:23] <[Saint]> I mean, do people know what I mean when I say that?
[7:23] <clever> nope :P
[7:23] <Tachyon`> well, I'd call it a kettle lead
[7:23] <Tachyon`> but yes
[7:23] <evil_dan2wik> I sorta do.
[7:23] <clever> [Saint]: i know what you mean, the network and power cables are multiplying
[7:23] <[Saint]> generic two-prong PSU/monitor/etc. cable.
[7:24] <clever> IEC mains
[7:24] <Tachyon`> ah, I see you live in a country that wants to kill you
[7:24] <[Saint]> "jug cord". :)
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[7:24] <Tachyon`> america is it? where earths are optional and electrocution is practically mandatory
[7:24] <[Saint]> Tachyon`: Notsomuch, no. We have ground in the mains outlets, its just that pretty much nothing uses it.
[7:24] <[Saint]> NZ.
[7:25] <Tachyon`> ahh, okay
[7:25] <clever> and i discovered, one of the wires was too short
[7:25] <clever> Tachyon`: i was recently taking a peak inside my main breaker panel
[7:25] <clever> so the previous owner twisted a pigtail on and extended it
[7:25] <clever> is that allowed in the main panel?
[7:26] <Tachyon`> I have no idea, I'm not an electrician, I just know how to not die when working with it -.o
[7:26] <clever> same :P
[7:26] <[Saint]> Most places here have seperate 2-phase and 3-phase rails, its kinda weird. But earth is standardized on electrical outlets since the late 60s.
[7:26] <[Saint]> seperate? Ew. Geez Hayden.
[7:26] <[Saint]> "separate".
[7:26] <Tachyon`> I've seen some hair raising american installations, ever heard of knob and tube?
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[7:27] <[Saint]> I have indeed.
[7:27] <[Saint]> I work as an installer for network and audiovisual wiring looms.
[7:27] <clever> but there is hockey tape on the wiring
[7:27] <clever> none in this place
[7:27] <[Saint]> I've seen...some scary things.
[7:27] <Tachyon`> ah, lol
[7:28] <evil_dan2wik> That is what I look at when buying a new house, the state of the electrical wiring.
[7:28] <clever> evil_dan2wik: this house has a socket at the very top of the stair well, about 8 feet off the floor
[7:28] <evil_dan2wik> There was a section in 1 house that a cord had just been pulled at until it snapped and it was just hanging there.
[7:29] <clever> but its at floor level if you reach thru the railing
[7:29] <clever> i was running a desktop computer off it one day
[7:29] <evil_dan2wik> clever, Probably for vacuuming
[7:29] <clever> yep
[7:29] <[Saint]> My favorite one was the place built only a few years ago buy some cowboy that had everything sealed up in ugly metal piping conduit, and EVERY. SINGLE> WIRE>...was black.
[7:29] <clever> and then ran an audio line to the stereo in the other room
[7:29] <[Saint]> Every one.
[7:29] <clever> evil_dan2wik: and i got a zap when i wired the audio line in...
[7:29] <Tachyon`> haha
[7:29] <[Saint]> s/buy/by/
[7:29] <Tachyon`> well, that'd certainly make life interesting
[7:29] <evil_dan2wik> nice
[7:29] <[Saint]> I got electrocuted more times than I care to admit that day.
[7:30] <clever> evil_dan2wik: i grabbed a neon outlet tester, and jammed it in the outlet
[7:30] <clever> evil_dan2wik: it blew up...
[7:30] <evil_dan2wik> cool
[7:30] <clever> the BOX is HOT!
[7:30] <clever> i then got out a multimeter and tested things
[7:30] <clever> 120vac to ground
[7:30] <clever> even with all the wires inside disconnected
[7:30] <evil_dan2wik> The socket is wired incorrectly
[7:30] <Tachyon`> how?
[7:30] <Tachyon`> if it was all disconnected?
[7:30] <clever> its that metal shielded cable
[7:31] <clever> armor on the outside
[7:31] <clever> the armor is hot
[7:31] <evil_dan2wik> ah. ok
[7:31] <Tachyon`> oh, hrm
[7:31] <[Saint]> Odd.
[7:31] <clever> which means, anything its touching in the walls, is also hot
[7:31] <clever> 120vac anywhere and everywhere!?
[7:31] <evil_dan2wik> usually, the shielding is grounded
[7:31] <[Saint]> You've got some serious issues if its producing that much heat.
[7:32] <evil_dan2wik> not hot as in heat.
[7:32] <clever> electrically hot
[7:32] <Tachyon`> hot == live
[7:32] <[Saint]> Ahhhhh. Right.
[7:32] <clever> yeah
[7:32] <[Saint]> I should've go tthat.
[7:32] <clever> i have no idea where the other end of the cable goes
[7:32] <clever> or what it might be touching on the way
[7:32] <clever> its still hot right now
[7:33] <evil_dan2wik> You should probably get it removed
[7:33] <[Saint]> Things like that bug me too much.
[7:33] <evil_dan2wik> or re-wired
[7:33] <[Saint]> I would've been in the ceiling/uinderfloor cavity looooong ago. :)
[7:33] <clever> evil_dan2wik: would have to tear the drywall up
[7:33] <[Saint]> Oy. One of those.
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[7:33] <evil_dan2wik> clever, cool.
[7:33] <[Saint]> Electricians need to be shot.
[7:33] <[Saint]> Often, and publicly.
[7:33] <evil_dan2wik> not all electricians, just bad ones.
[7:33] <[Saint]> To set an example for the rest.
[7:34] <evil_dan2wik> I know 2 electricians that are scared of mains power
[7:34] <[Saint]> evil_dan2wik: sometimes you need to break a few eggs to make an omelet. :)
[7:34] <Tachyon`> they all should be
[7:34] <[Saint]> Damn skippy.
[7:34] <clever> evil_dan2wik: i'm not even trained and i was opening the main panel up with the power on :P
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[7:34] <[Saint]> You should fear mains power.
[7:34] <Tachyon`> aye
[7:34] <evil_dan2wik> I am not scared, I know the proper handling and precautions.
[7:34] <clever> [Saint]: main, panel!
[7:35] <Tachyon`> and you should fear the inside of crts more
[7:35] <Tachyon`> I still have to have a fair number
[7:35] <evil_dan2wik> I fear my parent's LCD TV more.
[7:35] <Tachyon`> for my old computers
[7:35] <[Saint]> evil_dan2wik: A healthy respect for electricity in my mind comes with a bit of fear.
[7:35] <clever> evil_dan2wik: i did however have protection when i opened the main panel up
[7:35] <[Saint]> Fear keeps on cautios.
[7:35] <Tachyon`> their lcd tv does not have 30kv on the tube
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[7:35] <clever> evil_dan2wik: i was wearing gloves rated for 5000 volts
[7:35] <[Saint]> Lose that, and you get too relaxed.
[7:35] <evil_dan2wik> Half of the RCA plugs on the back build up charge.
[7:36] <[Saint]> evil_dan2wik: I think you might be confusing things.
[7:36] <evil_dan2wik> no.
[7:36] <[Saint]> LCDs aren;t scary.
[7:36] <[Saint]> CRTs, well....by all means, fear them.
[7:36] <evil_dan2wik> My parent's LCD tv's RCA plugs build up charge.
[7:36] <Tachyon`> yes, that was my original point
[7:36] <evil_dan2wik> I left a multi meter on 1 of them.
[7:36] <evil_dan2wik> it ended up maxing out the meter at over 1000v
[7:36] * Tachyon` occasionally has to repair CRTs for his old computers
[7:36] <[Saint]> It'll only give you a wee touch up. Nothing to worry about.
[7:37] <[Saint]> A CRT however...
[7:37] <[Saint]> I've given myself a wee kiss with a CRT whilst discharging before. Not pleasant.
[7:37] <clever> evil_dan2wik: do you know of a simple way i can monitor the current draw for the whole house?
[7:37] <evil_dan2wik> [Saint], over 1000v is not a wee touch up.
[7:37] <[Saint]> Very not pleasant.
[7:37] <Tachyon`> if you were still seated afterwards it wasn't a big one
[7:38] <evil_dan2wik> clever, I have an in home power monitor.
[7:38] <[Saint]> My boots had steam coming out of them afterwards, does that count? :)
[7:38] <Tachyon`> er, yes
[7:38] <clever> evil_dan2wik: from what i can see, i would need to pop a current transformer over the 2 phases coming in
[7:38] <clever> evil_dan2wik: which are located before the master off switch
[7:38] <Tachyon`> my only multisync is showing signs of failure
[7:38] <clever> up in the danger zone, where you cant simply turn it off and work on it
[7:38] <Tachyon`> picture getting darker (but over years rather than weeks and not out of focus so not tube)
[7:38] <Tachyon`> that's going to be fun to find
[7:39] <evil_dan2wik> clever, My meter was easy to install. Just a plastic current clamp that goes over the large red wire.
[7:39] <clever> evil_dan2wik: yeah, no need to disconnect the mains then, but your still reaching up into the zone you cant shut off yourself
[7:40] <evil_dan2wik> no.
[7:40] <Tachyon`> the clamp goes over the insulated wire
[7:40] <Tachyon`> I've got one
[7:40] <Tachyon`> no danger at all
[7:40] * [Saint] has something he very much shouldn't have.
[7:40] <clever> Tachyon`: which one though, the main phase coming in or the one on each breaker going out?
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[7:41] <Tachyon`> the main one coming in
[7:41] <[Saint]> I have one of those gigantic poles for removing the fuse from the power pole to the house.
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[7:41] <[Saint]> Very much not supposed to have those.
[7:41] <[Saint]> Here, at least.
[7:41] <Tachyon`> those are indoors here
[7:41] <Tachyon`> near the big meter
[7:41] <[Saint]> Ah.
[7:41] <Tachyon`> just with a seal so you can't fiddle
[7:41] <[Saint]> Here, they're about 5m off the ground.
[7:41] <clever> Tachyon`: from what i saw in the panel, there are large uncovered terminal blocks at the end of those insulated wires
[7:42] <clever> Tachyon`: so its not exactly safe to just reach in and mess with things
[7:42] <evil_dan2wik> I have the stick that turns off the mains isolaters on the top of the poles.
[7:42] <Tachyon`> oh well, no, but mine has no uncovered parts
[7:42] <Tachyon`> it looks like a fairly recent rewire
[7:42] <Tachyon`> well, 10 years
[7:42] <Tachyon`> but I've been here 9 so they did it just before it seems
[7:42] <clever> the neutral was totally exposed, and the 2 phase bars going down the middle where wide open
[7:42] <Tachyon`> good lord
[7:42] <clever> but those 2 phase bars where switched by the master breaker
[7:42] <[Saint]> In my last place I found out that we had a power outlet that was entirely separate from the metered rail - that was fun.
[7:43] <clever> your supposed to switch the main breaker off before opening the cover
[7:43] <Tachyon`> ahh
[7:43] <[Saint]> My power bill suddenyl went down a few hundred bucks.
[7:43] <clever> so the exposed parts are dead
[7:43] <clever> but you cant slip a transformer over the dead parts
[7:43] <clever> you have to remove the 2nd cover at the top, before the master breaker
[7:43] <clever> at which point, you cant shut it off
[7:44] <[Saint]> To this day I still don't know where the power from that outlet was coming from.
[7:44] <clever> lol
[7:44] <[Saint]> Turned off mains at switchboard, still powered. Removed fuse to disconect property from the grid, still powered. <pokerface>
[7:44] <evil_dan2wik> [Saint], next door
[7:44] <[Saint]> evil_dan2wik: see above
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[7:45] <evil_dan2wik> probably from next door.
[7:45] <Tachyon`> someone probably got an enhanced bill, lol
[7:45] <[Saint]> IF that was the case someone laid some elaborate underground cabling.
[7:45] <[Saint]> And then built a house on top of it.
[7:46] <[Saint]> My favorite theory was that it was powered by magic.
[7:46] <evil_dan2wik> In the house I grew up in, my grand dad tapped into some wires he found running under our house. It ended up being the old line to the house behind us that was supposed to be turned off.
[7:46] <[Saint]> We did have a plug that was connected to the apartment next door too, though.
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[7:47] <[Saint]> My uncle got a 24 month suspended sentence for taking his house off the electrical grid and wiring it off the street lamps.
[7:47] <Tachyon`> haha, that used to be a common trick here
[7:47] <[Saint]> The lamp outside his house used to flicker every time the microwave went on.
[7:47] <evil_dan2wik> He probably took the whole house off the grid.
[7:47] <clever> i heard something online a few weeks back
[7:47] <Tachyon`> altohugh 24 months suspended seems a little harsh
[7:47] <clever> a bitcoin miner was raided by the police
[7:48] <clever> they saw his power usage and thought it was a grow op
[7:48] <[Saint]> He did indeed. "...suspended sentence for taking his house off the electrical grid"
[7:48] <evil_dan2wik> lol
[7:48] <evil_dan2wik> pay your power bill with bit coins
[7:49] <[Saint]> Its really hard to think of some of the more notable horror stories I have uncovered as an installer.
[7:49] <[Saint]> I should write a book.
[7:49] <evil_dan2wik> Also, you aren't supposed take the whole house off the grid, just some of it.
[7:49] <evil_dan2wik> otherwise people get suspicious
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[7:50] <[Saint]> Ohhh - here's a fun one I remember from my very early days:
[7:50] <[Saint]> Man wires house from street lamps, sells power back to power company claiming to be generating it from solar sources.
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[7:50] <clever> lol
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[7:51] <evil_dan2wik> doesn't even have solar panels
[7:51] <clever> how would he even feed the grid back into the grid???
[7:51] <[Saint]> Yeppers.
[7:51] <clever> or did he wire the meter up backwards?
[7:51] <[Saint]> clever: with most of a solar setup, sans solar panels.
[7:51] <[Saint]> Most of these setups allow for backfeeding to the grid.
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[7:52] <clever> but wouldnt it be pretty complex to suck power out of the grid, then backfeed it into the same grid?
[7:52] <evil_dan2wik> Most solar inverters use peak lopping as the output.
[7:52] <clever> just going in a loop!
[7:52] <[Saint]> Less so than you'd thing.
[7:52] <[Saint]> *think
[7:53] <evil_dan2wik> so, the thing he use probably ramped up 5 volts or something and then feed it back.
[7:53] <[Saint]> Its actually very common to backfeed from solar setups here.
[7:53] <[Saint]> Though I'm not entirely sure how it is metered.
[7:53] <evil_dan2wik> The meters are 2 way.
[7:54] <evil_dan2wik> If the numbers are lower than the last check, you gave power back. If it is higher, you took power.
[7:54] <[Saint]> Yeah - I'm by no means an electrician. Just a lowly network/multimedia wiring loom installer - I know the basics, but the mthods often escape me as I don't need to care about them.
[7:56] <[Saint]> I don't have to touch any of the 240V zappy-zap-hurty-ow-ow stuff.
[7:56] <evil_dan2wik> My tv is mean to me in that way.
[7:57] <[Saint]> Grrrr. TV.
[7:57] <evil_dan2wik> You can touch the PCB through the handles for my TV.
[7:57] <evil_dan2wik> At some point I touched the PCB while it was plugged in.
[7:57] <[Saint]> Protip: NEVER buy a Seike 4K 50" TV.
[7:57] <evil_dan2wik> my whole arm was sore for the next 2 days
[7:57] <[Saint]> Yes, the price *is* too good to be true.
[7:58] <evil_dan2wik> What is wrong with it?
[7:58] <[Saint]> We've shewed through 3 of them on warranty claims in the past 6 months.
[7:58] <[Saint]> They just keep dying for no reason.
[7:58] <evil_dan2wik> ah ok.
[7:58] <evil_dan2wik> At least yours will be newer than other peoples.
[8:00] <[Saint]> We got this Seike brand thing after they couldn't do a replacement of the original within a reasonable time period (projector lamp shorted out and blew up some things on the board in the massive Sony 52" 4K screen we had).
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[8:00] <[Saint]> So we took this one, and a $400 rebate, and we've had nothing but issues with it.
[8:01] <clever> evil_dan2wik: i was playing with 120vac, SSR's, and space heaters a few months back
[8:01] <[Saint]> And now I see 8K is a thing. 0_o
[8:01] <clever> evil_dan2wik: i touched the hot line on the off side of the relay by mistake at one point, which should have been equal to neutral
[8:01] <clever> and got a slight buzz off of that
[8:01] <[Saint]> Audiophiles have moved into the visual market, it seems.
[8:01] <clever> but nothing as bad as what you got off your tv
[8:02] <[Saint]> Mind you, I was wrong about 4K...but the math *definitely* doesn't stack up against 8K.
[8:02] <[Saint]> The difference between 4K and 8K should be absolutely imperceptible to your average human.
[8:03] <[Saint]> I did say the same about 1080p vs. 4K, though. SO I may be prepared to do some hat eating.
[8:04] * Armand hands [Saint] some ketchup...
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[8:07] * [Saint] wonders why there are no good CM11 themes
[8:07] <tonsofpcs> *at proper viewing distances
[8:07] <[Saint]> All this fancy new theme engine stuff, and people creating rubbish content for it
[8:08] <tonsofpcs> higher resolutions let screens get larger for the most part. They do allow for more color grading in screens of similar sizes (due to aberrations and chromatic mixing due to lack of spacial resolution)
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[8:16] <rymate1234> [Saint], depends on the usage
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[8:16] <[Saint]> rymate1234: Hm?
[8:16] <rymate1234> you'd see a difference between a desktop on 4K and a desktop on 8K
[8:16] <rymate1234> :p
[8:17] <[Saint]> Not if DPI based UIs are used.
[8:17] <rymate1234> ...true
[8:17] <[Saint]> (which thankfully is happening a lot more lately)
[8:17] <rymate1234> eh i've seen a 1080p 12 inch laptop yesterday
[8:17] <rymate1234> sure the metro apps were fine
[8:17] <clever> [Saint]: but not in the pre-alpha of a game i'm testing
[8:17] <clever> no DPI based fonts
[8:17] <rymate1234> chrome was tiiiiny
[8:18] <clever> if you set it to 800x600, the text gets ungodly small!
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[8:18] <[Saint]> One of my favorite screens is Apple's touchscreen on the Nano6G - the thing is ridiculous.
[8:18] <[Saint]> 640x640 @ 1.1"
[8:18] <evil_dan2wik> sorry, just threw up.
[8:18] <[Saint]> dats some DPI right thar.
[8:19] <clever> i should be getting to bed now, night all
[8:19] <evil_dan2wik> Night
[8:19] <[Saint]> o/
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[8:50] <RahulAN> Hii all
[8:51] <RahulAN> i installed raspian in my card but is not showing any thing over screen.. but with ssh it is workking fine..
[8:51] <shiftplusone> composite or hdmi?
[8:54] <RahulAN> shiftplusone, hdpi
[8:54] <RahulAN> *hdmi
[8:54] <shiftplusone> maybe poke around with tvservice to see what might be going on.
[8:55] <ShorTie> was it pluged in and turn on before powering up the pi
[8:55] <RahulAN> shiftplusone, no i have a saparate display, with other card it is displayiing correctly..
[8:55] <RahulAN> ShorTie, yes..
[8:57] <shiftplusone> I am not sure what the 'no' is about and still recommend you check what tvservice tells you.
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[8:59] <RahulAN> shiftplusone, tvservices means?
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[8:59] <RahulAN> it is a desktop monitor..
[8:59] <shiftplusone> run tvservice -h
[9:00] <shiftplusone> then try tvservice -n
[9:00] <shiftplusone> or tvservice -s
[9:00] <ShorTie> desktop monitor, does that mean it is going thru some kind of adapter ??
[9:01] <RahulAN> yes i am using vgi to hdmi connector
[9:01] <ShorTie> most of those don't work i think
[9:01] <RahulAN> but for another card it is working fine
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[9:14] <RahulAN> what is responsible for switching to display as i power up the pi with sd card?
[9:14] <evil_dan2wik> shiftplusone, isn't there a config option to force HDMI?
[9:15] <shiftplusone> yup, there is.
[9:15] <evil_dan2wik> What is it.
[9:15] <ShorTie> yaa, it's in /boot/config.txt
[9:15] <evil_dan2wik> It sounds like his monitor isn't outputting the right signals
[9:16] <evil_dan2wik> like hotplug
[9:16] <ShorTie> try uncommenting 'hdmi_safe=1' maybe
[9:17] <evil_dan2wik> Force hotplug and change the modes probably
[9:17] <shiftplusone> hdmi_force_hotplug=1
[9:17] <ShorTie> most likely cause of the adapter it is not seeing the hdmi is in use and switches over to composite
[9:17] <evil_dan2wik> also, there is some problems with the adapters not getting enough power
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[9:19] <evil_dan2wik> RahulAN, try adding "hdmi_force_hotplug=1" to /boot/config.txt
[9:22] <Bhaal> Would using the 'sync' option when mounting a USB hdd speed up writes?
[9:22] <Bhaal> And give less reason for tvheadend to do its out of memory crash?
[9:23] <evil_dan2wik> Bhaal, USB is very slow.
[9:23] <evil_dan2wik> but, try using the sync option, what do you have to loose?
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[9:25] <Bhaal> evil_dan2wik: Nothing to lose, just pondering it, saw it mentioned for thumb drives... For the record though, I've had no trouble writing 2 HDTV streams and 1 SDTV stream from USB DVB-T tuners with no problem, then last night it crashed 5mins into 2 automatic recordings...
[9:25] <evil_dan2wik> Memory leak?
[9:26] <evil_dan2wik> there isn't much memory in the Pi
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[9:26] <Bhaal> Dunno, it was to SD streams as well which is what had me puzzled... Well either way I have a restart script running now...
[9:27] <Bhaal> evil_dan2wik: It was super stable for the first day or so which is why I put the system into production (at home) ... then that happened last night while I was out of the house, missed 2 recordings... Such is life though..
[9:27] <evil_dan2wik> Sounds like a memory leak
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[9:30] <Bhaal> evil_dan2wik: Possibly, was really hoping not, but a restart script will solve it for now...
[9:31] <RahulAN> evil_dan2wik, thankss it work :)
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[9:32] <evil_dan2wik> No Problem.
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[9:44] <jonascj> Hi all. Anyone who uses ffmpeg to do some webcam-stuff? I would like to hear if your ffmpeg have video4linux2 (v4l2) enabled. If you just type ffmpeg in a terminal you should see it print its configure line which should contain quite a few --enable-libwhatever. Among them could be --enable-libv4l2.
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[11:33] <NGC3982> Morning.
[11:34] <NGC3982> I'm using several RPI's in my home; Both as XBMC (OE) HTPC units with CEC, and with RetroPie (Raspbian).
[11:35] <NGC3982> I'm currently using two different RPI's for one of my TV's. One with OE, and one with Raspbian. I'm using a CEC compatible remote for the OE RPI, and a wireless gamepad for the Raspbian (RetroPie) unit. Both are connected to my HDMI reciever.
[11:36] <NGC3982> I'm fairly novice on Linux, and especially partitioning tables and how things are run on the operating system level. I wish to merge these to operating systems on one RPI (since i can't use both at the same time, anyway). Is it possible to use dual boot or something for this?
[11:37] <NGC3982> The problem is also, that i do not think both Raspbian (with RetroPie) and OE will be able to simultaniosly use my CEC remote. Since i do not have any keyboard connected, i guess rebooting and choosing what to boot is not a CEC compatible option.
[11:37] <NGC3982> What do you guys think? :-)
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[14:24] <hid3> Hello. It seems that I have messed the RPi audio using amixer and various settings. Now I can't hear any playback. Is there any way to reset all the settings to defaults?
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[15:27] <[Saint]> Grrrr.
[15:28] <bart_b> hid3, sudo mv /var/lib/alsa/asound.state /var/lib/alsa/asound.state.bak && sudo invoke-rc.d alsa-utils restart
[15:28] <[Saint]> Apparently 14.04 broke virtualbox's ability to detect the virtualization features of my CPUs.
[15:28] <[Saint]> It also apparently can't see more than one CPU. So I can only dedicate 4 cores to it.
[15:29] <[Saint]> WHile 12 more sit doing nothing. :-/
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[15:42] <Encrypt> [Saint], No...
[15:42] <Encrypt> They're executing NOPs ! :]
[15:42] <Encrypt> So they are doing something! :p
[15:42] <tonsofpcs> NOP
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[15:43] <[Saint]> Well, I guess "doing nothing" wasn't correct, indeed.
[15:44] <[Saint]> The host knows they're there, and will hotplug them accordingly. The guest has no idea they exist, though.
[15:44] <[Saint]> Its only seeing CPU0 and cores 0~3
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[15:45] <[Saint]> Not being able to cope with multiple CPUs doesn't surprise me /toooooo/ much.
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[16:33] <Gorwell> Hello, what's the difference between the different compilers from here https://github.com/raspberrypi/tools/tree/master/arm-bcm2708 and which one should I use to rebuild a kernel?
[16:34] <shiftplusone> doesn't really mattter
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[18:03] <Gorwell> Hello, I am experiencing the same problem described here http://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=74690 does anybody know how to solve it?
[18:04] <AbbyTheRat> just asking, could I past extra parameters to the callbacks function in GPIO?
[18:05] <AbbyTheRat> haven't seen any examples or tutionals that show it's possible
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[18:12] * AbbyTheRat prod shiftplusone
[18:12] <AbbyTheRat> you know?
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[18:16] <shiftplusone> eh?
[18:16] <shiftplusone> is this a python thing you're asking?
[18:16] <xmatthias> anyone here knows how to setup motion not to detect motion, but to just stream the camera?
[18:16] <AbbyTheRat> yeah, re gpio library
[18:17] * shiftplusone doesn't do python
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[18:18] <[SLB]> hm who said who updated to 14.04?
[18:20] <shiftplusone> AbbyTheRat, but it looks like the answer is 'no'. http://pythonhosted.org/RPIO/rpio_py.html
[18:21] <shiftplusone> AbbyTheRat, I suppose you could do it by adding a global variable for the purpose.
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[18:21] <AbbyTheRat> considering that the callback is threaded, might not be a great idea
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[18:22] <shiftplusone> ah
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[18:29] <AbbyTheRat> and that page doesn;t even mention the function I'm using so that's great too x_x
[18:29] <AbbyTheRat> GPIO.add_event_detect()
[18:29] <AbbyTheRat> hee
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[18:30] <shiftplusone> rpio might be a different library then
[18:31] <shiftplusone> I checked the rpi.gpio page, but the documentation seems to be missing the... documentation.
[18:31] <shiftplusone> I suppose this is it http://sourceforge.net/p/raspberry-gpio-python/wiki/Inputs/
[18:32] <AbbyTheRat> yes
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[19:08] <sgiratch> Any of you tried filtering out sound from fan?
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[19:08] <sgiratch> I have an incubator, would be fun to toss in a mic on the next rundt
[19:08] <sgiratch> But then I need to filter out the sound from the fan
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[19:15] <CarlFK> can the pie drive both video outs at the same time? (hdmi and composite, either mirrored or 2 displays)
[19:16] <shiftplusone> nope
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[19:26] <CarlFK> thanks.
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[19:26] <shiftplusone> np
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[19:48] <SpeedEvil> Anyone have a recommended reasonably cheap digital output hygrometer than the Pi can read?
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[19:59] <tonsofpcs> two wires and a bucket with salt in it? :)
[20:00] <tonsofpcs> http://www.stillhq.com/arduino/000007.html looks interesting
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[20:02] <tonsofpcs> a bunch of sensors at http://parallax.com/catalog/sensors/temperaturehumidity
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[20:05] <tonsofpcs> DHT22 seems like what a lot of people use (both adafruit and sparkfun have them but you can get them cheaper elsewhere)
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[20:11] <tonsofpcs> SHT15 has a 2-wire serial interface
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[21:05] <lambdumb> hello! i'm doing a project for school and i was wondering which distribution would be best for showing a webpage onscreen continuously
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[21:06] <lambdumb> i've tried raspbian but found it was too much of a load on the processor, so i'm trying to find something lightweight to run a javascript-enabled browser
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[21:11] <CarlFK> javascript-enabled browser sounds like what is causing the load
[21:11] <lambdumb> chrome doesn't do a good job of keeping lean
[21:11] <lambdumb> but raspbian has a bunch of extras i don't need
[21:12] <lambdumb> so i was thinking RiscOS with a js-enabled NetSurf build but RiscOS doesn't work well for me
[21:14] <lambdumb> all i really need is something to draw a browser window, connect to wifi, and display a webpage
[21:14] <CarlFK> I am running mplayer to play an mp3 stream. top shows mplayer using 6% cpu, tmux 1.5, and 5 more things using a little under 1%.
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[21:15] <CarlFK> so I am guessing it is the js .. you should look into what is really using your cpu
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[21:16] <lambdumb> i don't think it's the JS because even doing normal stuff under Raspbian has the CPU on a heavy load
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[21:20] <lambdumb> i'm thinking arch would be a good fit
[21:20] <CarlFK> sounds like you are guessing at what the problem is. run top, get some hard numbers.
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