#raspberrypi IRC Log


IRC Log for 2014-04-21

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[0:00] <Busybyeski> Encrypt: know where i can find any info? i'm using raspbmc and i have upnp setup already if that works to my favor
[0:00] <Encrypt> There are wireless HDMI transmitters
[0:00] <Busybyeski> oh but it can't be done purely through the network?
[0:01] <Encrypt> I did read again what you just asked...
[0:01] <Encrypt> I see what you want to do :p
[0:01] <Encrypt> I'd also like to do the same :)
[0:01] <Busybyeski> just use the network as a replacement for an hdmi cable, latency is acceptable
[0:02] <Encrypt> Busybyeski, Have a look at remote desktop solutions
[0:02] <Busybyeski> oh use the pi to vnc
[0:02] <Busybyeski> i shall go exploring this topic
[0:03] <Encrypt> I didn't have time to find information for now :/
[0:03] <Encrypt> Busybyeski, Yes, it seems to be what you want
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[0:15] <ParkerR> Holy crap. Pi compatible board with with an A20 SoC http://www.cnx-software.com/2014/04/20/banana-pi-is-a-raspberry-pi-compatible-board-fitted-with-an-allwinner-a20-soc/
[0:15] <ParkerR> *but with
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[0:28] <binaryhermit> ParkerR: I'm not sure I'd call that raspberry pi compatible
[0:28] <binaryhermit> it'd likely require a differently-compiled OS
[0:29] <linuxstb> It definitely will. I think they're just claiming hardware compatibility in some way.
[0:29] <ParkerR> binaryhermit, Yeah I think they meant more towards cases/addons
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[0:30] <binaryhermit> I'm thinking the RPi would have better long-term support prospects, even though the Banana Pi has beefier hardware specs
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[0:31] <binaryhermit> plus, something about Allwinner seems sketchy to me, maybe it's just that their stuff is used in poor-quality chinese android devices
[0:32] <binaryhermit> that last sentence unfortunately took some massaging to get out appropriately, I really wanted to use some colorful synonyms for "poor quality"
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[0:35] <ParkerR> binaryhermit, A20 is a very common CPU with a known spec
[0:36] <ParkerR> It powers a lot of cheaper tablets
[0:36] <ParkerR> Android HDMI sticks
[0:36] <ParkerR> etc
[0:36] <binaryhermit> that are frequently (ahem) of poor quality
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[0:36] <binaryhermit> though that has more to do with the company that physically assembles and provides support for the device
[0:37] <ParkerR> http://linux-sunxi.org/Main_Page
[0:37] <binaryhermit> though in the back of my mind I wonder how much longer the Raspberry Pi will recieve software support once the Raspberry Pi Foundation moves on to a new model
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[0:38] <binaryhermit> but I'm frequently not particularly rational :P
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[0:40] <binaryhermit> or, even given the semi-outdated nature of the processor (things are starting to move in the general direction of ARMv8, the Raspberry Pi has ARMv6) and generally lacking amount of RAM (though the newer 512 MB model , how much longer
[0:41] <binaryhermit> err
[0:41] <binaryhermit> forget it
[0:43] <[Saint]> SOmeone might port KitKat to it just in time for it to not be able to run 4.5/5/whatever it'll be because the runtime changes. :)
[0:43] <binaryhermit> don't mind me, I'm just irrationally paranoid sometimes
[0:43] <[Saint]> damn sticky shift key. bah.
[0:44] <binaryhermit> anyway, in sumnmary of what I was going to say in that mangled blob, the RPi's hardware is outdated in some ways, I'm wondering how long software support will be possible for the current hardware
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[0:44] <binaryhermit> though the 512 MB Model B boards are probably better off than the earlier boards
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[0:44] <[Saint]> I suppose the community and the support is a side bonus, even if both those things dried up this second we've still gotten more than ur monies worth I'd say.
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[0:45] <[Saint]> *our
[0:45] <binaryhermit> not if you just got it last week
[0:46] <binaryhermit> but unless the Raspbian devs go AWOL or their build hardware fails spectacularly, we're probably good until Wheezy support ends
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[0:47] <binaryhermit> *at least until
[0:47] <binaryhermit> probably until Jessie support ends or longer
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[0:50] <binaryhermit> heh... there's something about the bananapi.org website...
[0:53] <binaryhermit> (read as "why don't companies hire people who cringe at "Now, You real can do your daily works on it." to go over their translations)
[0:55] <binaryhermit> also, their site is broken in both Chrome and Iceweasel/Firefox.
[0:56] <rikkib> Good to see more options in the market
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[0:57] <rikkib> China good for us long time here in NZ. CER makes trade quick and simple.
[0:57] <[Saint]> There's always been a big market in microboards, raspi was just the flappy bird of the bunch, if you will.
[0:57] <binaryhermit> there's someone selling it on alibaba.com that obviously stole text from somewhere regarding the raspberry pi
[0:58] <[Saint]> And also, yes, the Engrish on that Bananapi site is delicious.
[0:58] <binaryhermit> like, it references broadcom and the bcm2836
[0:58] <binaryhermit> also, their site is broken in both Chrome and Iceweasel/Firefox.http://sinovoip.en.alibaba.com/product/1676904012-221106539/Dual_Core_1GB_Ram_Banana_PI_M1_strongger_than_Rasberry_PI.html
[0:58] <[Saint]> Lol
[0:58] <binaryhermit> *bcm2835
[0:59] <binaryhermit> they don't seem to actually provide any downloads for the banana pi...
[1:01] <rikkib> Often China does not care when providing software with hardware. Full copies of licensed product has come with boards I have bought from China.
[1:02] <rikkib> Of course not legit so I tend to not use them.
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[1:02] <rikkib> Open Source tools do what I want
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[1:11] <Busybyeski> i lost internet but the VNC looks like a tough sell because raspbmc isn't x compatible
[1:12] <Busybyeski> would there be anyway to just "stream" my whole display as video
[1:12] <Busybyeski> there won't be any real interaction through the pi, only viewing
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[2:04] <Lartza> Will overclocking corrupt my SD if it only has /boot?
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[2:07] <ShorTie> every thing else is on like usb drive ??
[2:07] <Lartza> a small swap and / yes
[2:08] <ShorTie> ya, most likely safer then it was on the sdcard it's self
[2:09] <Lartza> To be safe i'm taking a file copy of the bootfiles so I can just reformat the sd and copy them over if it ever does happen :P
[2:09] <ShorTie> need goood power supply for oc'n
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[2:10] <Lartza> ShorTie, or what?
[2:10] <ShorTie> power blurps normally are the cause for file corruption
[2:10] <Lartza> Hmm
[2:10] <Lartza> Never thought of that
[2:11] <ShorTie> like heavy read/write draws the voltage down, which makes a brown out
[2:12] <ShorTie> normally cause power supply doesn't have enough amp output to keep the voltage up to snuff
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[2:13] <steve_rox> anything fun going on?
[2:13] <ShorTie> and if you have wifi, it makes matters worse, if not pluged into a powered hub
[2:14] <Lartza> ShorTie, Yeah I am only running on a 700mA samsung charger
[2:15] <ShorTie> ya, that is a little week
[2:15] <ShorTie> they say more like a 1 amp, but i like Tim Taylor'n it to 2 amp
[2:16] <ShorTie> never have enough, lol.
[2:16] <steve_rox> 2amps
[2:16] <steve_rox> thats a bit crazy?
[2:16] <Lartza> i do have what I believe is a 1 amp charger
[2:16] <Lartza> I might switch to that then...
[2:17] <ShorTie> na, poly fuse can pass 1.1 few a sec, so 1 really isn't enough for me
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[2:17] <steve_rox> rembering the more amps the higher the voltage
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[2:19] <ShorTie> yup, amps it keep the voltage up
[2:19] <steve_rox> so what kinda voltage you shovein in 6v?
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[2:20] <ShorTie> oh no
[2:20] <ShorTie> 5.2v max
[2:21] <steve_rox> i think there is a tiny regulator on the rpi which gets hotter the more you put in
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[2:22] <ShorTie> that is most likely for the 3.3 volt rail
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[2:23] <rikkib> 3.3v 56mA
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[2:23] <rikkib> 5 V 1.1A - current drawn by rpi
[2:23] <steve_rox> im so sleeepy
[2:24] <steve_rox> you think theres much demand for the pcb's out of usb keyboards to make custom control system things?
[2:24] <steve_rox> if you get what i mean
[2:25] <osxdude|MBP> correct
[2:25] <osxdude|MBP> I blew a 3.3V the other day somehow lol
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[2:25] <osxdude|MBP> it is completed
[2:26] <steve_rox> no one have a answer/
[2:28] <steve_rox> guess ill passout
[2:28] <Lartza> I'm joining the 2 amp club it seems
[2:28] <Lartza> :)
[2:32] <steve_rox> kaboom
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[2:34] <Lartza> steve_rox, 5.0V :)
[2:35] <steve_rox> :-P
[2:36] <Lartza> unless specs are lying
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[2:36] <steve_rox> who can tell
[2:36] <Lartza> Asus probably
[2:36] <Lartza> or the factory
[2:36] <Lartza> not gonna call them
[2:36] <Lartza> :D
[2:37] <steve_rox> multimeter test i guess
[2:37] <Lartza> but since I doubt the tablet it's meant to be charging would do well if it put out a lot more than 5V... :P
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[2:37] <Lartza> Or that
[2:37] <Lartza> way more fun to wait if it explores imo
[2:37] <Lartza> *explodes even
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[2:39] <steve_rox> fun
[2:39] <Lartza> hmm why is free -h showinf 462M as total memory
[2:40] <Lartza> gpu_mem_512=128
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[2:40] <Lartza> oh nwm the cma thing
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[2:41] <steve_rox> camera?
[2:41] <Lartza> no dynamic memory allocation
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[2:41] <Lartza> *split
[2:42] <steve_rox> oh right the memory share thing
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[2:46] <steve_rox> sleeping is hard
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[2:47] <NGC3982> Hi,
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[3:18] <happygilmoregent> anyone know if they are coming out with a C model with more memory?
[3:18] <applegekko> yes and dual quad core cpu
[3:18] <applegekko> wait till 2020
[3:18] <happygilmoregent> nice
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[3:19] <binaryhermit> happygilmoregent: probably at some poin t in the future? Apparently they're still a year or two away from thinking about a model with upgraded hardware
[3:19] <binaryhermit> though it wouldn't surprise me to see a quiet RAM bump like the one they did a few months ago
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[3:20] <happygilmoregent> are arduino and beagleboard also on the same tac?
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[3:23] <plugwash> The impression i've got from posts by those connected with the raspberry pi foundation is that another ram bump is extremely unlikely
[3:23] <plugwash> AIUI while the SOC supports 8 gigabit (1 gigabyte) chips in theory noone actually makes them in the correct technology
[3:24] <binaryhermit> plugwash: I stand corrected, then.
[3:24] <plugwash> and while the Pi market has grown bigger than it's creators could ever have hoped for it's still not big enough to persude a ram vendor to make a chip just for them
[3:24] <binaryhermit> I assumed. And you know what they say about what happens when you assume...
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[3:26] <plugwash> happygilmoregent, If you want an arm board with more memory there are options out there, of course at higher prices than the Pi
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[3:27] <happygilmoregent> true is raspberry pi the general use single board?
[3:28] <binaryhermit> Apparently there are ARM boards with 2 GB of RAM. The Raspbian build farm uses them, apparently
[3:28] <binaryhermit> but they're significantly more expensive
[3:28] <plugwash> Arm boards with 1-2GB of ram are available from among others wandboard, odriod, udoo, cubie
[3:28] <binaryhermit> plugwash: are you one of the raspbian devs? (just curious)
[3:28] <plugwash> yep
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[3:30] <binaryhermit> I assume software support for the currently available boards will continue after the (at this point completely hypothetical) new version comes out
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[3:31] <Busybyeski> it sounds like directvnc might do what i want but the debian repository still holds a bugged release
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[3:36] <happygilmoregent> what would the CFLAGS for raspberry pi be?
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[3:36] <clever> happygilmoregent: native or cross-compile?
[3:36] <happygilmoregent> native
[3:36] <clever> the defaults should be fine 90% of the time
[3:37] <happygilmoregent> but what would it be i.e amd64 arm
[3:37] <clever> if your doing the compile right on the pi, it will default to the correct arch
[3:37] <binaryhermit> happygilmoregent: ARM
[3:37] <happygilmoregent> ok
[3:37] <happygilmoregent> but distcc would be arm?
[3:38] <binaryhermit> armv6 with hard float, apparently
[3:38] <clever> depends, are the distcc slaves also pi's?
[3:38] <happygilmoregent> lets just say it was a amd64
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[3:38] <clever> then youll need a cross-compiler on the amd64 machine
[3:38] <clever> and now your nightmares begin, lol
[3:39] <happygilmoregent> why do you say that?
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[3:39] <clever> thats where things get complicated
[3:40] <happygilmoregent> is there a distcc script for amd64 to arm?
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[3:43] <[Saint]> There's always the good old arch wiki
[3:43] <[Saint]> http://archlinuxarm.org/developers/distcc-cross-compiling
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[3:44] <[Saint]> Whoops - not arch wiki.
[3:44] <[Saint]> Close enough.
[3:45] <happygilmoregent> sounds easy enough
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[3:47] <[Saint]> People run into trouble with half baked tutorisla
[3:48] <[Saint]> Errrr. Tutorials.
[3:48] <[Saint]> Auto complete messes that one up spectacularly.
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[3:50] <happygilmoregent> asks you to proofread
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[3:51] <[Saint]> If you ever want to use a wireless card with an uncommon chip set you'd probably be better off punching random stuff into the terminal or cat'ing from /dev/random until it magically worked than you would be searching for a solution these days I swear.
[3:51] <[Saint]> There's that many incomplete or okain wrong writings out there its not funny.
[3:51] <[Saint]> *plain, bah.
[3:52] <happygilmoregent> fuautocorrect which is another reason I will never own an apple
[3:52] <clever> [Saint]: reminds me of fixing flash on firefox
[3:52] <clever> [Saint]: one person said to fix the install script by changing the downloader from wget to curl
[3:52] <clever> and it magicaly works for some strange reason, can you guess why?
[3:53] <[Saint]> Because badger is awesome.
[3:53] <clever> flash depends on curl
[3:53] <clever> and curl wasnt installed
[3:53] <clever> when you try to use curl to download flash, you accidentaly fix it :P
[3:53] <[Saint]> Damn auto complete
[3:53] <happygilmoregent> is that a fix for firefox for pi or linux in general
[3:53] <[Saint]> *bagder
[3:53] <clever> happygilmoregent: its a fix for the adobe x86 flash builds
[3:53] <clever> wont help an arm based pi
[3:54] <happygilmoregent> ok I have amd64
[3:54] <clever> it would silently segfault all of firefox if you didnt have libcurl installed
[3:54] <clever> which you would accidentaly fix, while trying to make the curl based downloader download it
[3:55] <c0be> What does kernel message "Indeed it is in host mode hprt0 = 00001101" mean?
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[3:56] <c0be> Followed by "usb 1-1: reset high-speed USB device number 2 using dwc_otg"
[3:58] <[Saint]> So many things depend on curl/libcurl. Daniel worked out some time ago a conservative guess of 550M devices
[3:58] <[Saint]> http://daniel.haxx.se/blog/2012/05/16/300m-users/
[3:58] <[Saint]> (URL says 300 but blog is updated)
[3:59] <[Saint]> And that was 550M...in 2012.
[3:59] <clever> i only found that bug because i thought 'wget or curl, hmmm, i can build stuff without curl'
[3:59] <clever> 'i dont need both!'
[3:59] <clever> (facepalm)
[3:59] <clever> flash loads curl at runtime, and doesnt check the return value of dlopen
[3:59] <clever> null pointer
[4:00] <[Saint]> :|
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[4:03] <[Saint]> https://github.com/sendgrid/sendgrid-cobol?files=1
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[4:03] <[Saint]> *commit messages
[4:04] <clever> now begins another fun journey, trying to compile gcc 4.7 under cygwin
[4:05] <[Saint]> Oh sweet FSM.
[4:05] <[Saint]> Why do you hate yourself?
[4:06] <clever> i need c++11 features under windows
[4:06] <[Saint]> Oh. I remember. We had this discussion.
[4:06] <[Saint]> Poor 'Lil jimmy. Never had a chance.
[4:06] <clever> i managed to get them on the web based ubuntu server, that was just another source in apt
[4:07] <clever> but windows doesnt have such a handy package manager
[4:07] <clever> and even with a fully native 4.7 gcc, the code in question uses unix sockets
[4:07] <clever> it fails hard against winsock
[4:07] <clever> so i'm trying cygwin now
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[4:24] <rikkib> Ima goin fishin tomorrow for few days to the sunny Coromandel.
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[5:50] <johnc-> oh man, Qt can use the EGL, I may have a huge grin on my face right now
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[6:31] <thordon> Hi. I'm fairly new to linux so this might not be a raspbery pi problem exactly. My init process seems to be in an infinite loop or something. Its currently using 70% cpu and has been using at least 30% for the past hour or so. This happened recently after 11 days of uptime. Does anyone know what might be causing this?
[6:33] <shiftplusone> 100% sure it's the init process?
[6:34] <thordon> I'm looking at top right now, the top line is: "1 root 20 0 3456 528 452 R 69.7 0.1 19:11.49 init"
[6:35] <shiftplusone> did you do anything fancy like mess around with /dev/ or init scripts?
[6:36] <shiftplusone> and is this just a plain raspbian wheezy install or something else?
[6:36] <thordon> not recently, I think the last thing I tried to do with init scripts was add nice values to the samba startup script
[6:36] <thordon> Its xbian
[6:37] <shiftplusone> hm
[6:37] <thordon> Could a loop in an init script be causing it?
[6:37] <shiftplusone> no idea
[6:38] <shiftplusone> have you asked the xbian people?
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[6:40] <thordon> Not yet, tried googling a bit, nothing jumped out. I figured maybe it was a more general thing since init is supposed to be the parent of all processes
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[6:48] <thordon> I tried pkill -9 on the init process and it didnt do anything. The process didnt seem to stop and start again or anything. And now I'm trying to reboot and nothing is happening. Pretty weird
[6:48] <Xark> thordon: If rebooting doesn't restart init, then that is weird indeed. :)
[6:49] <thordon> I mean, its not rebooting. I reboot via SSH about 2 minutes ago and my session is still active
[6:49] <Xark> Remote reboot? I've seen that hang...
[6:49] <thordon> Normally putty kicks me out after a few seconds
[6:49] <oldtopman> thordon: You killed init, so I'm not too surprised that weird things are happening.
[6:49] <oldtopman> Try init 0 or init 9
[6:49] <oldtopman> (one of those is reboot IIRC0
[6:50] <oldtopman> sync && halt hasn't hurt me eithre.
[6:50] <thordon> halt worked
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[6:53] <oldtopman> Hasn't failed for me yet 8)
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[6:53] <thordon> init is behaving itself so far after I restarted the pi
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[6:57] <oldtopman> thordon: Print logging FTW!
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[6:58] <thordon> What is print logging?
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[6:59] <oldtopman> thordon: echo "THIS. IS. PRINT LOGGING!!!!!!" | cat >> /logfile.txt
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[6:59] <oldtopman> thordon: Put it in whatever you want, change echo as appropiate, and you can see whenever the line is called.
[6:59] <oldtopman> If you put it right before your samba mods, and you see a thousand lines of THIS IS PRINT LOGGING, then there's a loop.
[7:00] <oldtopman> etc, etc.
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[7:00] <thordon> Ah ok. I'm not really sure where the loop might be. Ill keep an eye out after I start or stop a service and work from there
[7:01] <oldtopman> ps -ax | grep <name of suspect process> might help too.
[7:01] <oldtopman> If you think you have a thousand instances of bash running, for example.
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[7:03] <thordon> I dont understand why it was init that was using all the cpu though. If it was another process using all the cpu I would see that instead in top right?
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[7:26] <\\Mr_C\\> what am i doing wrong, i copied 2014-01-07-wheezy-raspbian.img to a clean sdcard, and its booting right to a # prompt like within 10 seconds, i forget what steps to do if any
[7:26] <\\Mr_C\\> doesnt show any errors
[7:27] <\\Mr_C\\> raspi-config says not found
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[7:28] <shiftplusone> sounds like it's in safe mode.
[7:28] <shiftplusone> anything connected to GPIO?
[7:28] <\\Mr_C\\> yes
[7:28] <shiftplusone> set avoid_safe_mode in config.txt
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[7:29] <rikkib> desable safe mode in config
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[7:30] <\\Mr_C\\> okay, re-writing it now
[7:30] <shiftplusone> why?
[7:30] <\\Mr_C\\> i formated it clean thinking i did something wrong, i was about to write the noob 134
[7:30] <shiftplusone> ah
[7:30] <\\Mr_C\\> will try the safemode thing you said again first
[7:32] <\\Mr_C\\> so having stuff connected like the motion sensor and serial cable hooked will put it in safe mode on a clean image install?
[7:33] <shiftplusone> pulling a certain pin low will
[7:33] <\\Mr_C\\> oh
[7:33] <shiftplusone> pin 5 or 6... whichever one isn't ground.
[7:34] <\\Mr_C\\> oh
[7:34] <shiftplusone> 5
[7:36] <\\Mr_C\\> just add " avoid_safe_mode " at the bottom of the text file?
[7:37] <shiftplusone> = 1
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[7:47] <\\Mr_C\\> cool deal, that worked
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[7:48] <shiftplusone> yay
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[7:53] <\\Mr_C\\> you think they will make a screen soon for that csi port now that boradcom released the port source for it?
[7:53] <shiftplusone> they are releasing a screen for the *DSI port, but that doesn't have anything to do with the released source code.
[7:54] <\\Mr_C\\> oh
[7:54] <\\Mr_C\\> thats what i meant the dsi port
[7:54] <\\Mr_C\\> ive been waiting for one for a couple years
[7:55] <\\Mr_C\\> so its simple for me to hook up like the camera port
[7:56] <\\Mr_C\\> can they make it so its all on one cable ?
[7:56] <\\Mr_C\\> and with touchscreen too?
[7:58] <shiftplusone> it will have a touch screen
[7:58] <\\Mr_C\\> awsome
[7:58] <shiftplusone> I am not sure if having a single cable is possible, since it will need a fair bit of power
[7:58] <shiftplusone> but I don't know
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[8:01] <shiftplusone> \\Mr_C\\, a prototype: http://raspi.tv/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/DSC_0579.jpg
[8:01] <shiftplusone> so yeah, looks like it has its own power supply.
[8:01] <shiftplusone> if your main supply is up to it, you could split the output and power the pi and the display with the same supply.
[8:02] <\\Mr_C\\> cool
[8:02] <shiftplusone> I wonder why the board has two microusb connectors.
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[8:07] <\\Mr_C\\> whats the link to read about that proto type?
[8:07] <shiftplusone> http://raspi.tv/2014/raspberry-pi-official-7-inch-dsi-prototype-preview
[8:07] <shiftplusone> http://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=63&t=64041
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[8:11] <\\Mr_C\\> cool
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[9:33] <DrWhat> hi guys!
[9:33] <shiftplusone> hey
[9:33] <ShorTie> Good Morning
[9:56] <DrWhat> is there any schematic for the piface (digital & display)?
[9:57] <DrWhat> -digital +control :/
[9:59] <shiftplusone> if there is, they have done a good job of hiding them (which is a good enough reason not to use it, I'd say)
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[10:01] <DrWhat> s*** i would like to change the LCD screen but i don't know if i can (remove 16x2 screen and add a 20x4)
[10:01] <shiftplusone> http://www.element14.com/community/servlet/JiveServlet/showImage/38-14510-190478/PiFace+Control+and+Display.png
[10:01] <shiftplusone> http://www.element14.com/community/people/Problemchild/blog/2013/12/25/piface-control-display-tear-down
[10:01] <DrWhat> i think it's this https://github.com/Elektordi/pi-accesscontrol/blob/master/doc/rpBreakOutV0_4_sch.pdf ..maybe?
[10:02] <shiftplusone> and the the *s do nothing, so be careful.
[10:02] <Xark> What about http://www.hexnut.net/2013/08/raspberry-pi-pyface-lost-documentation.html
[10:03] <DrWhat> yup, that's it.
[10:03] <DrWhat> thanks ;)
[10:03] * Xark notes it is for an older board
[10:04] <shauno> it shouldn't make a whole lot of difference, they're both the same HD44780 controller
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[12:16] <psiklops> Hi. Is there an Emulator for c64 that works in raspbian and supports sound ?
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[12:19] <mimer> psiklops, google says it does!
[12:20] <shiftplusone> what's wrong with VICE? is it slow on the pi?
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[12:21] <mimer> from what I can read, VICE works 100% speed and "ok" sound
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[12:21] <shiftplusone> that's what I would expect
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[12:28] <Solak> shiftplusone: I didn't get Vice working here :/ segfault...
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[12:32] <shiftplusone> ah, it doesn't even seem to be in the repo =(
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[12:34] <Solak> no, you have to add another debian repository to sources.list (the default one doesn't seem to provide 'contrib')
[12:37] <shiftplusone> all of the information about vice and the pi seems terribly outdated. =/
[12:37] <Solak> http://elinux.org/RPi_VICE_C64_Emulator
[12:37] <shiftplusone> yes, terribly outdated.
[12:37] <Solak> true... :/
[12:37] * SpeedEvil lols somewhat at the concept of a modern C64 emulator
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[12:38] <Solak> what about http://www.commodorepi.co.nr/ ?
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[12:38] <Solak> it looks like a nice project...
[12:38] <shiftplusone> is that the bare metal emulator?
[12:39] <psiklops> cool thanx
[12:39] <Solak> shiftplusone: I don't know, it seems some sort of comeback64 fork.
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[12:39] <shiftplusone> I would be very surprised if that was complete and accurate, but I suppose it's worth a shot.
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[12:40] <psiklops> i'm gonna try out http://www.commodorepi.co.nr/
[12:40] <Solak> shiftplusone: it seems under development, but the idea behind it looks good...
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[12:45] <shiftplusone> I'll just have a go at compiling it
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[12:56] <psiklops> yoo
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[13:39] <Lartza> :O
[13:39] <Lartza> my rpi has frozen
[13:39] <Lartza> ??
[13:39] <Lartza> damn
[13:40] <[Saint]> It happens.
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[13:40] <Lartza> Never before :/
[13:40] <[Saint]> Humans are absolutely incapable of writing bug free software. Until that stops being a thing, this will continue to happen from time to time.
[13:40] <Lartza> Only problems I've had have been network not reconnecting
[13:40] <[Saint]> Hardware also isn't infallible.
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[13:41] <shiftplusone> sounds like a bad power supply and/or cable
[13:41] <Lartza> mhh
[13:41] <Lartza> shiftplusone, It just froze like the desktop showing
[13:41] <Lartza> And it was under load compiling...
[13:41] <shiftplusone> that only makes it sound more like a power issue.
[13:41] <Lartza> I just changed power to a 2 amp but not tested
[13:42] <[Saint]> Its all just numbers until its tested.
[13:42] <[Saint]> Many PSUs blatantly lie.
[13:42] <shiftplusone> It doesn't matter what it says on the sticker, it's the tp1-tp2 voltage at moment of failure that's of interest.
[13:43] <Lartza> Yeah I need to get a multimeter some day
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[13:43] <Lartza> it's the charger of my Nexus 7
[13:43] <shiftplusone> should be good then
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[13:43] <[Saint]> That _should_ be of.
[13:43] <[Saint]> *ok
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[13:44] <[Saint]> It possible it swapped itself to death.
[13:44] <lupinedk> Lartza had down to 4.92volt idle with the Nexus 7 charger
[13:44] <[Saint]> *its
[13:44] <Lartza> Ohhhh [Saint] I was compiling qbittorrent maybe that does take RAM yeah
[13:44] <Lartza> qt4 program
[13:44] <Lartza> :/
[13:45] <[Saint]> Crosscompile is your friend here - if you can.
[13:45] <shiftplusone> oh
[13:45] <lupinedk> http://www.pi-supply.com/product/european-eu-micro-usb-raspberry-pi-power-supply-5v-1500ma/ with this one i run 5.12 volt idle
[13:45] <[Saint]> If you canpass off compilation to a more powerful machine, do so.
[13:45] <[Saint]> *can pass
[13:45] <[Saint]> bah - can't type.
[13:45] <Lartza> [Saint], I've never gotten it to work
[13:45] <Lartza> crossdev setup failed on my pc with funtoo and hmm
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[13:46] * [Saint] shudders
[13:46] <[Saint]> funtoo - uuuugh.
[13:46] <Lartza> Yeah :P
[13:46] <shiftplusone> debian works best for cross-compiling things
[13:46] <Lartza> I was trying it out on my pc
[13:46] <[Saint]> Its like gentoo, only, worse.
[13:46] <[Saint]> And that's a mighty feat.
[13:47] <[Saint]> ;)
[13:47] <Lartza> I kind of like Gentoo but it's a pain to maintain so I prefer Arch and yes Funtoo did not seem to do anything better than Gentoo
[13:47] <Lartza> didn't really get the point of it
[13:47] <Lartza> :)
[13:47] * leio wakes up upon hearing Gentoo
[13:47] <Lartza> Is there a guide on setting up a cross-compiler on debian then?
[13:48] <[Saint]> Its errr.....fun! Pffffft. WHo am I kidding, I can't even joke about it.
[13:48] <Lartza> I can deploy a virtual machine in no time
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[13:48] <Feigr> I used Arch until they sold their souls to systemd, now I prefer FreeBSD
[13:48] <Lartza> Yeah... I don't know systemd isn't that bad but again nothing seems to be much better either
[13:48] <shiftplusone> Lartza, this is the best approach I have found so far https://github.com/bmanojlovic/rpi-cross-compile
[13:49] <[Saint]> The only thing I like about systemd is all the delicious rants it stirs up.
[13:49] <leio> I just used crossdev on gentoo and works fine, though I don't cross-compile, just distcc the job out of rpi
[13:49] <[Saint]> Makes morning coffee and checking mailing lists interesting.
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[13:49] <[Saint]> "Who has Linus chewed out today I wonder...?"
[13:49] <Lartza> leio, crossdev failed me though it was on funtoo and they might have broken such things
[13:49] <Lartza> but also 4.8.2 failed with file collissions...
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[13:50] <[Saint]> http://archlinuxarm.org/developers/distcc-cross-compiling
[13:50] <Lartza> shiftplusone, that's not cross compile :S
[13:50] <shiftplusone> Lartza, oh but it is.
[13:50] <leio> I'm on armv6j-hardfloat-linux-gnueabi-gcc
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[13:51] <shiftplusone> Lartza, it uses a qemu chroot, yes. BUT, it also uses a cross-compiler in that toolchain which runs natively.
[13:51] <Lartza> [Saint], Tried those once
[13:51] <Lartza> but
[13:51] <Lartza> yeah
[13:51] <shiftplusone> so you get the benefit of being able to apt-get dependencies, use debian's tools and still compile things very quickly
[13:51] <[Saint]> Lartza: works for me.
[13:52] <[Saint]> Those exact instructions, followed to the letter, work perfectly.
[13:52] <Lartza> [Saint], Prebuilt or yourself?
[13:52] <[Saint]> I use Arch's toolchains - I mean, why not? They /kinda/ know what they're doing, and those toolchains have been torture tested.
[13:53] <shiftplusone> They do give you the .config for crosstool-ng, so....
[13:53] * [Saint] hopes the /kinda/ was sufficiently sarcastic
[13:54] * [Saint] goes back to carving out that hideous holo blue from KitKat.
[13:55] <[Saint]> 33b5e5, I stab at thee.
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[13:55] <shiftplusone> psiklops, you around?
[13:56] <psiklops> shiftplusone, yes
[13:56] <shiftplusone> psiklops, I've just built a vice deb, interested in testing?
[13:56] <psiklops> shiftplusone, sure
[13:56] <shiftplusone> sec
[13:57] <shiftplusone> uploading
[13:57] <psiklops> ok
[13:58] <[Saint]> Piami Vice.
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[13:58] * [Saint] shows himself the door
[13:59] <shiftplusone> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/175702/vice_2.3.dfsg-4%7Erpi11_armhf.deb
[13:59] <psiklops> cool, thanx
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[14:00] <shiftplusone> haven't tried it, just built and threw it out there, so I don't know if it will work.
[14:02] <Lartza> [Saint], The damn toolchain is 64-bit only :D
[14:02] <Lartza> gwah
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[14:02] <psiklops> shiftplusone, http://paste.debian.net/94816/
[14:03] <[Saint]> Ahhhh - yeah, whoops - kinda gotta be in the modern world for this.
[14:03] <Lartza> :P
[14:03] <Lartza> [Saint], My all virtual machines are not 64-bit, arch is one of them currently
[14:03] <shiftplusone> psiklops, internet is acting up. Does it say it can't find the kernal?
[14:03] <Lartza> And I've yet to install physical arch I just reinstalled windows yesterday
[14:04] <[Saint]> Why do you have 32bit installs on a 64bit machine?
[14:04] <Lartza> Why not?
[14:04] <Lartza> less trouble
[14:04] <shiftplusone> Ah, it opened.
[14:04] <[Saint]> Why is it less trouble?
[14:04] <psiklops> shiftplusone, missing libs here: libgtkglext1 and libieee1284-3
[14:04] <[Saint]> This pretty much stopped being an issue ages ago.
[14:04] <Lartza> multilib
[14:04] <Lartza> I don't like it generally
[14:04] <Lartza> I can live with it sure but
[14:04] <Lartza> :)
[14:05] <[Saint]> also, I find "less trouble" highly amusing in this situation.
[14:05] <[Saint]> I hope you see the irony. ;)
[14:05] <shiftplusone> psiklops, and if you install those? It installed fine on my pi just then and there's nothing fancy about it.
[14:05] <psiklops> doing that at the moment
[14:05] <Lartza> Yeah now it's more trouble since I started reinstalling in 64-bit
[14:05] <Lartza> :P
[14:05] <shiftplusone> just complaining about the missing kernal rom, which makes sense.
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[14:07] <psiklops> shiftplusone, x64 on commandline inside fluxbox: error > windowssystem doen't support OpenGL
[14:07] <shiftplusone> plugwash, sorry to bug you straight away, but how come vice isn't in the repo? The debian armhf version seems to compile happily for the pi.
[14:08] <shiftplusone> hm.... maybe that's it then.
[14:08] <shiftplusone> I thought it used SDL without opengl =/
[14:08] <plugwash> shiftplusone, the answer is because currently we only rebuild main, not contrib or non-free
[14:09] <shiftplusone> ah
[14:09] <plugwash> we have considered changing this but I haven't got arround to looking into the implications yet
[14:09] <shiftplusone> thanks
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[14:11] <psiklops> i am building vice from source: just with ./configure
[14:11] <psiklops> no extra options
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[14:13] <psiklops> or should i --enable-sdlsound ?
[14:14] <psiklops> shiftplusone, how does your ./configure line look like
[14:14] <ioudas> does anyone know how to get the current kbdrate of a machine
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[14:16] <shiftplusone> psiklops, odd.... I am running vice on the pi right now, using that .deb
[14:16] <shiftplusone> maybe it's using mesa's gl libs or something
[14:17] <shiftplusone> but it's full FPS
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[14:23] <FearTec> Hello, Any ideas how I can get a Pi HDMI signal to boost that is connected to a VHA monitor via a HDMI/VGA adapter? It works for 1 minute then HDMI drops out until I remove/reconnct the HDMI cable? latest deb, pastebin of confit.txt here http://pastebin.com/tCVN7f9f
[14:25] <ppq> sounds like power issues
[14:25] <ppq> HDMI-VGA adaptors tend to drain a lot
[14:26] <FearTec> It was a cheap ebay one? Any advce on ones that work well?
[14:27] <FearTec> fyi only, My blogged Pi Adventures (newbie level stuff) http://simon.fearby.com/blog/?cat=351
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[14:30] <malgar> Hi! I would like to encode from Pi Camera, 2 different files at different resolutions in real time. Is it possible to run it with parallel processes?
[14:30] <malgar> is the GPU capable of parallel encoding?
[14:32] <FearTec> not real parallel encoding.
[14:34] <malgar> what could I do? I would like to stream a good definition stream, and a much lower one.. let say 720p and 320
[14:34] <malgar> at the same time
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[15:00] <FearTec> Not sure about video streaming.
[15:01] <psiklops> shiftplusone, did you add --withsdlsound to ./configure options ?
[15:01] <FearTec> malgar: Why not stream one stream to say twitch or youtube and have the clients handle the quality stream from there,
[15:02] <malgar> because I want to keep the good definition one on the SD as backup, and stream just the lower one
[15:02] <shiftplusone> psiklops, I compiled using debina's tools from the armhf .dsc. No idea what they set or how to find out.
[15:02] <malgar> I haven't enough bandwidth to stream the good one
[15:03] <psiklops> shiftplusone, ok, thanx
[15:03] <FearTec> malgar: fair enough.
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[15:14] <malgar> FearTec: no idea?
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[15:51] <AbbyTheRat> how do I kill runaway rogue pythons?
[15:52] <shiftplusone> with a shovel?
[15:52] <AbbyTheRat> ctrl + c not working
[15:52] <AbbyTheRat> D:
[15:52] <shiftplusone> or go nuclear with a pkill -9 python
[15:53] <shiftplusone> (and hope there's no collateral damage)
[15:54] <AbbyTheRat> isn't there a task list and kill by pid?
[15:55] <shiftplusone> yeah, but that's for the weak
[15:55] <AbbyTheRat> FINE
[15:55] <shiftplusone> ps aux | grep python
[15:55] <shiftplusone> then kill the PID
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[15:55] <fwg> pgrep?
[15:55] <shiftplusone> ooh
[15:55] <[Saint]> "shutdown -h now"
[15:56] <[Saint]> that'll get 'em.
[15:56] <AbbyTheRat> there we go
[15:56] <AbbyTheRat> rogue succesfully shot
[15:56] <fwg> when in doubt, go downstairs and take out the fuse
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[15:57] <shiftplusone> or hack at all electronics with an axe
[15:57] <[Saint]> Rougue shot?
[15:57] <[Saint]> http://chwc.ariadneslabyrinth.net/images/hrcbr3x200.jpg
[15:57] * [Saint] can't spell on a real keyboard anymore apparently
[15:58] * AbbyTheRat can't spell on any keyboard
[15:58] <Encrypt> This suddenly made me think about this song...
[15:58] <Encrypt> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3x2ABSAMVno
[15:58] <AbbyTheRat> hee, I'm cracking up ^^;
[15:59] <[Saint]> Why would you pick *that* version of the song...eeeek
[15:59] * [Saint] feels old manesque
[16:00] <[Saint]> Awesome song - thoroughly ruined.
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[16:02] <AbbyTheRat> hmm
[16:02] <AbbyTheRat> [Saint]: suggest the version you prefer :)
[16:02] <Encrypt> AbbyTheRat, I think he's refering to this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSHYlSxQyJM
[16:03] <[Saint]> Nancy Sinatra/Cher, take your pick.
[16:03] <[Saint]> Just not David Guetta. ;)
[16:04] <[Saint]> Written by Sonny, iirc.
[16:04] <shiftplusone> It's cold >=/
[16:04] <[Saint]> 64, 66, something like that.
[16:05] <[Saint]> shiftplusone: 10C here. :-/
[16:06] <[Saint]> Only 2 or 3-cat weather.
[16:06] <shiftplusone> eh? cat weather?
[16:06] * [Saint] judges how cold it is by how many felines attempt to sleep under the duvet
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[16:06] <shiftplusone> ah, crazy cat man, got it.
[16:07] <[Saint]> I'll take it.
[16:07] <[Saint]> Its not entirely inaccurate.
[16:09] <AbbyTheRat> so anyway.. I guess I should add a signal interrupt into the python <_<
[16:10] <[Saint]> Reticulated?
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[16:45] <Lartza> Trying to set-up the distcc... does RPi still stupidly take some compile processes for itself?
[16:46] <Lartza> My i7 is sitting idle and rpi is maxed
[16:46] <Lartza> I removed from hosts
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[16:59] <AbbyTheRat> I'm not really sure, Lartza
[16:59] <AbbyTheRat> but then, I don't not what rpi do or doesn't so much. Newbie here
[16:59] <Lartza> It's probably just distcc, and I don't see a way to use pump mode
[17:01] <AbbyTheRat> mhm, a question for you.. I think some, if not most of us would listen to music sometimes to help get into a programming groove.. what's your music genre for that programming genre?
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[17:01] <AbbyTheRat> Mine vary between chillout/vocal trance and pop
[17:01] <AbbyTheRat> general question for everyone else as well
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[17:05] * [Saint] regularly has Marty Robins on as it annoys the coworkers
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[17:35] <beaky> hello
[17:35] <beaky> how do i change pwm frequency
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[17:46] <xreal> I need to send a SMS message via GSM. Is it cheaper to get an old mobile phone with serial input or a GSM module?
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[17:50] <chris_99> you can find email -> gsm gateways
[17:50] <chris_99> for free
[17:50] <chris_99> on the interwebs
[17:50] <chris_99> if that helps
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[18:05] <plugwash> if cheap is your only critera then the cheapest option is probablly a mobile broadband stick
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[18:14] <beaky> is omxplayer the only hardware-accelerated media player
[18:14] <beaky> on the pi
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[18:16] <shiftplusone> no
[18:17] <shiftplusone> there's also vlc, but you need to compile it yourself
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[18:28] * AbbyTheRat stares at her gpio all the numbered pin are used up.. I wonder if there's any pin I can use.. I would like to be able to control the lights
[18:28] <AbbyTheRat> hmm
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[18:29] <plugwash> what do you mean by "all the numbered pin"?
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[18:29] <shiftplusone> AbbyTheRat, mostly used up by switches or what?
[18:30] <AbbyTheRat> buttons and the backlight for the pi
[18:30] <shiftplusone> how many buttons?
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[18:31] <AbbyTheRat> 5, I got the LED light wired to the 3v3.. so was thinking maybe putting it onto a pin so I can turn them on and off as needed.
[18:31] <AbbyTheRat> plus a pin used for each RGB on the LCD display
[18:32] <AbbyTheRat> and SCL + SDA
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[18:32] <shiftplusone> I see 17 usable pins on the main header
[18:33] <shiftplusone> and then there's the other one
[18:33] <shiftplusone> The p5 header
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[18:33] <shiftplusone> seems to have 4 pins
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[18:34] <AbbyTheRat> Hmm
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[18:34] <shiftplusone> I thought it you had a lot of inputs, maybe a crossbar matrix approach sort of deal would work, but you don't seem to have enough inputs to make it worth while.
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[18:35] <AbbyTheRat> I can take a pic of the pin setup currently but not sure if It be clear enough
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[18:39] <AbbyTheRat> http://i.imgur.com/4aYiUQi.jpg
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[18:39] <shiftplusone> the MOSI/MISO pins should be available for use without doing anything fancy
[18:39] <shiftplusone> (gpio 9 and 11)
[18:40] <shiftplusone> as long as the SPI module is not loaded
[18:40] <shiftplusone> and IIRC, it's blacklisted on the default image (but I might be thinking of I2C)
[18:40] <shiftplusone> so I suppose lsmod first
[18:40] <AbbyTheRat> I2C and SPI is blacklisted
[18:41] <shiftplusone> ah
[18:41] <AbbyTheRat> but I enabled them both anyway caues yeah
[18:41] <AbbyTheRat> why are they blacklisted?
[18:41] <shiftplusone> because most people don't need them
[18:41] <AbbyTheRat> so what's the benifit of blacklisting them?
[18:41] <shiftplusone> and you don't want noobs being confused.
[18:42] <AbbyTheRat> oh when they are blacklisted, you can use them as a normal pin?
[18:42] <shiftplusone> so that they works properly as regular inputs and outputs
[18:42] <shiftplusone> yeah
[18:42] <AbbyTheRat> < is a noob
[18:43] <shiftplusone> If you're going to use the I2C pins, don't forget that there are external pull-up resistors which you can't get rid of.
[18:43] <shiftplusone> (which is usually more convenient than it is a problem)
[18:43] <AbbyTheRat> the LCD backpack requires i2c (or spi) so I trust it's handling that fine
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[18:44] <shiftplusone> ah, so they're not free then?
[18:44] <AbbyTheRat> nope
[18:44] <shiftplusone> you can still use the tx/rx pins
[18:44] <shiftplusone> I don't seem them on the breakout
[18:44] <shiftplusone> but they should be there
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[18:45] <shiftplusone> you need to edit inittab first
[18:45] <AbbyTheRat> it's there.. under the ground
[18:45] <shiftplusone> and then reboot
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[18:45] <AbbyTheRat> but just to run a list, can't use MOSI/MISO because that's SPI and I have it removed from blacklist
[18:46] <AbbyTheRat> SLC/SDA is used anyway
[18:47] <shiftplusone> uart should still be available, but even with the serial console disabled, I am not sure how well it plays ( /dev/ttyAMA0 would still be present and might cause issues, I don't know)
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[18:47] <AbbyTheRat> tx/rx is free - edit inittab.. okie.. er..
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[18:48] <AbbyTheRat> what about CE0, CE1?
[18:48] <AbbyTheRat> tx/rx? that's sounds like networking stuff?
[18:48] <shiftplusone> Part of SPI, isn't it?
[18:48] <AbbyTheRat> wow, SPI/i2c sure takes a lot of pins
[18:48] <shiftplusone> AbbyTheRat, nuh, tx/rx is for serial
[18:49] <shiftplusone> I am not too familiar with the way the pi handles things
[18:49] <shiftplusone> On other devices, although SPI might be a lot of pins, you can use only what you need and set the others to whatever else you want
[18:50] <shiftplusone> You should be able to do the same with the pi on a lower level, but I don't know how the kernel modules affect things
[18:50] <AbbyTheRat> I only use the SCL and SDA
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[18:50] <shiftplusone> so Gordon might be a good person to poke there.
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[18:50] <AbbyTheRat> gordonDrogon: hey?
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[18:50] <shiftplusone> rejected
[18:50] <AbbyTheRat> totally
[18:51] <shiftplusone> he planned his ping timeout well
[18:51] <AbbyTheRat> you think being a darling female, everyone would jump at the chance to help me XD
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[18:52] <shiftplusone> heh
[18:52] <takkie> you rang?
[18:52] <AbbyTheRat> takkie != gordonDrogon?
[18:52] <takkie> nope, i'm not.
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[18:53] <AbbyTheRat> how did someone ring you? :O
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[18:53] <takkie> my screen blinks at the sight of the word help
[18:53] <takkie> there it went again.
[18:54] <shiftplusone> that must get annoying O_O
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[18:54] <takkie> it will have to do while my spider-senses are being repared.
[18:54] <AbbyTheRat> takkie: okie, I'm trying to work out which pin would be safe to use
[18:55] <takkie> AbbyTheRat: hairpins? don't have any knowledge of those kind.
[18:55] <AbbyTheRat> gpio on the pi
[18:55] <AbbyTheRat> smart.. cheeky
[18:55] <takkie> AbbyTheRat: save to use for what purpose?
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[18:55] <AbbyTheRat> turning on/off LED light on the 5 buttons
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[18:57] <shiftplusone> well, nap time. ' night
[18:57] <AbbyTheRat> later shiftplusone
[18:57] <AbbyTheRat> why nap?
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[18:58] <shiftplusone> eh? what do you mean why nap? because naps are awesome.
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[19:00] <takkie> AbbyTheRat: sorry, haven't played around with pins on the Pi yet.
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[19:00] <takkie> i do find adafruit to be a got resource for hardware projects.
[19:00] <raalex> Hi everyone
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[19:01] <raalex> I am trying to run a vncserver at startup, but i get the response that the "USER environment variable is not set"
[19:02] <raalex> not really doing anything different than I do when I start it manually, which is the problem i guess
[19:02] <shiftplusone> how are you starting it automatically?
[19:03] <raalex> vncserver :1 -geometry 1600x900
[19:03] <raalex> i put that command
[19:03] <raalex> in the /etc/rc.local
[19:03] <shiftplusone> makes sense then
[19:03] <shiftplusone> rc.local does not run as the user
[19:03] <shiftplusone> it runs as root
[19:03] <shiftplusone> before any environment variables are even set
[19:03] <shiftplusone> which is a terrible idea.
[19:04] <shiftplusone> (for vnc)
[19:04] <raalex> good to know
[19:04] <shiftplusone> perhaps your user's crontab @reboot makes more sense?
[19:04] <raalex> i have no idea what I am doing to be honest
[19:04] <raalex> I guess you can tell
[19:05] <shiftplusone> don't worry, rc.local is something everyone seems to get wrong
[19:05] <shiftplusone> anyway, good luck. gone.
[19:05] <raalex> thanks
[19:05] <raalex> have a nice day
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[19:08] <gordonDrogon> evening.
[19:14] <raalex> Good Evening
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[19:20] <theshadow> I keep trying to update my raspian firmware and keep getting curl: (18) transfer closed with 5720828 bytes remaining to read (with the bytes at some random number) anyone have any clues?
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[19:23] <beaky> how do i do dma with pi
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[19:30] <raalex> so, if anyone is having the same problem, I used this and it worked flawlessly: http://gizmosnack.blogspot.co.at/2013/11/autostart-raspberry-pi-vnc-and-server.html
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[19:39] <gordonDrogon> theshadow, are you using rpi-update ?
[19:39] <theshadow> Yep, after 7 attempts it finally downloaded
[19:39] <gordonDrogon> maybe the SD card was full?
[19:39] <gordonDrogon> I've not used rpi-update for a long time now - over a year probably.
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[19:42] <raalex> can anyone recommend a good android remote for omxplayer?
[19:42] <raalex> I am using Raspberry Remote and I am not very happy
[19:42] <raalex> what mostly bothers me is, if there is some connectivity issue with my phone, i need to reboot the raspberry to be able to watch something different
[19:43] <raalex> this one looks nice: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tencarssoftware.omxremote
[19:44] <raalex> at least from the description; does anyone have any experience with it?
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[19:46] <ShorTie> and i'm guessing that you are using wifi to connect to the pi ??
[19:47] <raalex> well, my phone does not have an ethernet port
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[19:48] <ShorTie> have you tried sumfin like wicd to keep the wifi up ??
[19:50] <raalex> well I don't mind it that much if I lose control over pausing or stuff like that during a movie
[19:50] <raalex> but right now, the only choice I have if I want to change whatever is playing after losing connectivity
[19:50] <raalex> is rebooting
[19:50] <raalex> - support "killall" as a last resort to get rid of a running OMX Player that you somehow have lost control over (try the "screen" option if your connection is prone to drop frequently)
[19:50] <raalex> and that is good enough for me, I guess
[19:51] <ShorTie> i get that, but maybe if you can keep the wifi going, it might fix all that other
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[19:51] <raalex> the raspberry itself is connected via ethernet
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[19:51] <raalex> it's only my phone that's on wifi
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[19:54] <ShorTie> oh, ok
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[19:54] <raalex> well I guess I'll just give it a try
[19:54] <raalex> and report back
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[20:31] <raalex> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tencarssoftware.omxremote is the best omx player remote I have seen so far
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[20:35] <AbbyTheRat> gordonDrogon: hey!
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[20:41] <gordonDrogon> AbbyTheRat, evening.
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[20:42] <AbbyTheRat> So, shiftplusone pointed at you as the person to talk to about working out an empty pin
[20:43] <gordonDrogon> what pin are you looking at?
[20:43] <AbbyTheRat> http://i.imgur.com/4aYiUQi.jpg that's what I have so far.. I want to move the led off the 3v3 and onto a controllable pin so you know.. the lights aren't on all the time
[20:44] <gordonDrogon> oh. buttons, display..
[20:44] <gordonDrogon> etc.
[20:44] <AbbyTheRat> I removed spi/ic2 off blacklist..
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[20:44] <gordonDrogon> this is an ordinary led with resistor?
[20:45] <gordonDrogon> ah, the display has an I2C backpack - ok.
[20:45] <AbbyTheRat> yes
[20:45] <AbbyTheRat> no resisters for the LCD in the buttons, unless it's built in
[20:45] <AbbyTheRat> it was about right straight off the 3v3
[20:46] <gordonDrogon> the Ce0 and CE1 pins look empty - use them unless you're using SPI.
[20:46] <gordonDrogon> but why do you have 3 wires going to each button?
[20:46] <AbbyTheRat> I think the SPI is not blacklisted
[20:47] <AbbyTheRat> Common + LED -, Normally Open, and LED +
[20:47] <gordonDrogon> the buttons have LEDs built into them?
[20:47] <AbbyTheRat> yes
[20:47] <gordonDrogon> with resistors?
[20:48] <gordonDrogon> SPI and I2C is normally blacklisted with Raspbian.
[20:48] <AbbyTheRat> yes
[20:48] <AbbyTheRat> https://www.adafruit.com/products/481 4 of those + one white
[20:48] <AbbyTheRat> andyeah, built in resisters, according to description :)
[20:49] <gordonDrogon> Hm. nice buttons. must find some here.
[20:49] <gordonDrogon> but use the CE pins on the SPI port to drive led + resistors at 3.3v.
[20:50] <gordonDrogon> well - use any of the 5 SPI pins if not using the SPI port.
[20:50] <AbbyTheRat> (resisters is built into the button x_x)
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[20:50] <AbbyTheRat> hmm.. I guess I could put the SPI back onto the blacklist
[20:50] <AbbyTheRat> since I'm only use the i2c on the backpack, not the spi
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[20:51] <gordonDrogon> it really doesn't matter though (if using wiringPi) it'll just take over the pins anyway.
[20:51] <gordonDrogon> not sure what RPi.GPIO does.
[20:51] <AbbyTheRat> RPi.GPIO here
[20:52] <AbbyTheRat> yeah.. I'll try it out.. do you know the BCM number of the pin?
[20:52] <gordonDrogon> just make sure lsmod doesn't have the SPI modules.
[20:52] <AbbyTheRat> lsmod?
[20:52] <gordonDrogon> it's a command.
[20:52] <gordonDrogon> type it into a terminal.
[20:52] <AbbyTheRat> ah
[20:52] <gordonDrogon> lsmod | fgrep spi
[20:53] <steve_rox> just seen that so called "banana-pi" clone , damn its a hell of a ripoff design
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[20:53] <steve_rox> http://liliputing.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/banana-pi_02.jpg
[20:53] <gordonDrogon> steve_rox, yes - I got an email from them. I told them to send me one. they went quiet ...
[20:53] <steve_rox> see the jpg
[20:53] <AbbyTheRat> two spi
[20:53] <AbbyTheRat> spi.dev and spi_bcm2708
[20:54] <gordonDrogon> it's no big deal (banana pi). there are plenty of Pi wannabees, but only one Pi.
[20:54] <steve_rox> i guess so
[20:54] <gordonDrogon> AbbyTheRat, you need to blacklist them then.
[20:54] <steve_rox> its just bad the way its copied it so much
[20:54] <gordonDrogon> even the beagle bone black has only sold 20K accirding to the wiki.
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[20:54] <steve_rox> wondering if their expantion connectors would allow use of the rpi cam on it
[20:54] <gordonDrogon> or was it 30K. even so - 2.5 million Pi's and counting...
[20:55] <gordonDrogon> right supper time here. back later.
[20:55] <steve_rox> have fun
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[21:15] <TheHacker66> 'evening
[21:15] <[Saint]> I didn't mean it to sound quite as bad as it might have done, but I like to think I hit the nail on the head the other day saying that raspi is the "flappy bird" of microcomputing.
[21:16] <[Saint]> Not first. Not best. Just...insanely popular and well marketed by word of mouth.
[21:16] * koell (~tauron@ Quit (Quit: So say we all!)
[21:17] <[Saint]> The hoards of people buying them and not knowing what to actually do with them was somethign I found highly amusing.
[21:17] <[Saint]> Similar to when Nexus devices stopped being for developers and became the cool thing to have.
[21:18] <binaryhermit> part of it is the "cheap" factor
[21:18] <SpeedEvil> B***s
[21:18] <SpeedEvil> 'word of mouth'
[21:18] <SpeedEvil> I heard approximately 10 actual normal people news stories on it before it launched.
[21:18] <TheHacker66> I'm one of those people
[21:19] <SpeedEvil> That is absolutely utterly unheard of for a board of its type
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[21:19] <SpeedEvil> Actual government ministers have mentioned it
[21:19] <binaryhermit> [Saint]: what would be considered an acceptable use for the raspberry pi to you?
[21:19] <[Saint]> Where did I imply any use was inacceptable?
[21:19] * binaryhermit uses his as a replacement for a VPS he used for IRC purposes
[21:20] <TheHacker66> I use it as a Media Center
[21:20] <binaryhermit> ok, you mean it that way, like, literally no clue.
[21:20] * binaryhermit apologizes
[21:22] <TheHacker66> Has anyone of you tried or successfully run a x86 program on the Pi?
[21:23] <binaryhermit> considering the cpu power the raspberry pi has and the overhead of cpu emulation, that's probably not a good idea
[21:24] <binaryhermit> IIRC, there's an Intel-based single board computer that is coming out soon that might be a better idea if you want to run x86 stuff
[21:24] <AbbyTheRat> SpeedEvil: self censoring isn't allowed on this channel. X_x
[21:25] <AbbyTheRat> whatever you're self censoring.. can't figure it out
[21:25] <TheHacker66> I like challenges, that's why I managed to run a x86 program with qemu-i386, but it doesn't have internet access
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[21:25] <binaryhermit> AbbyTheRat: Think spherical objects often used in sporting events. I think.
[21:26] <ppq> TheHacker66, you will need a proper resolv.conf
[21:26] <AbbyTheRat> balls? hmm, no idea if that's against the rules.. although in this context, I guess it would be
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[21:27] <AbbyTheRat> self-censoring is unwise still
[21:27] <binaryhermit> TheHacker66: if you want to run x86 stuff, something like this is a better idea http://techcrunch.com/2014/04/03/intel-releases-99-minnowboard-max-an-open-source-single-board-computer/
[21:27] <TheHacker66> ppq: I'll check that right away
[21:28] <[Saint]> AbbyTheRat: I tried inserting an expletive into that self censored mess - couldn't.
[21:28] <[Saint]> It pleases me greatly I wasn't the only one.
[21:28] <TheHacker66> binaryhermit: Why buy another board when i can do basically everything with the Pi
[21:28] <AbbyTheRat> balls, basically, in the way Bobby would use it in Supernatural
[21:29] <TheHacker66> and it's one program only (for now)
[21:29] <[Saint]> Superna.....marry me.
[21:29] <SpeedEvil> The minnowboard max is enormously more bang for buck than the Pi.
[21:29] <AbbyTheRat> still, if you're not sure and you have to self-censor.. it might be a good idea to not say it to be safe.. don't you agree, [Saint]
[21:30] <binaryhermit> TheHacker66: well, if you want to run x86 code...
[21:30] <binaryhermit> or anytyhing semi-quickly
[21:30] <SpeedEvil> SATA/GE
[21:31] <binaryhermit> though a cheaper ARM board could do better than the Raspberry Pi
[21:31] <SpeedEvil> yes
[21:31] <SpeedEvil> Often.
[21:31] <SpeedEvil> Teh main advantage the Pi has is volume.
[21:31] <SpeedEvil> Which is a big advantage.
[21:31] * binaryhermit finds the Raspberry Pi surprisingly taxed by running Irssi in screen with ssh access
[21:32] <TheHacker66> binaryhermit: it's a headless server application, so it's not going to use much cpu and/or ram
[21:33] * binaryhermit suspects that his desktop with core2duo (I think) e7400 did better running raspbian in qemu than an actual raspberry pi did
[21:33] <binaryhermit> but the main wtf is that running iotop uses >10% of the CPU
[21:33] <binaryhermit> oops, sorry
[21:34] <TheHacker66> task manager?
[21:34] <binaryhermit> iotop measures i/o performance
[21:34] <binaryhermit> and htop uses ~5% when sorting by cpu usage
[21:35] <binaryhermit> I think part of iotop's problem is that it's apparently implemented in python, with the overhead that requires
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[21:35] <TheHacker66> there are some python and other headless progs that eat way too much resorces imo
[21:36] <binaryhermit> yeah, it uses about 13-14% with spikes to 27%
[21:36] <TheHacker66> have you heard of rpix86? it's fun to play doom via ssh
[21:37] <TheHacker66> vnc*
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[21:44] <Feigr> is there any straight forward way to connect and old floppy drive, like the one in an IBM PS/2, to a Pi, or would I need to do some soldering and custom work?
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[21:47] <binaryhermit> it's probably custom work
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[21:47] <ppq> there are usb <--> floppy adaptors
[21:48] <ppq> but a new usb floppy drive is probably cheaper
[21:48] <ppq> check ebay
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[22:03] <gregc2> does anyone know how to turn off repeating characters for a keyboard
[22:03] <Feigr> ppq: yeah USB floppy drives wouldn't be a problem I assume, but I was considering the possibility of using an IBM PS/2 case with a Pi in it and the power button and floppy drive hooked up
[22:04] <Feigr> as a fun retro thing
[22:04] <ppq> i see, sounds good
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[22:07] <gordonDrogon> keep it family friendly please. no ***'s and no acronyms. Channal rules: http://tiny.cc/h7za1w
[22:08] <causality> those pesky asterisks
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[22:12] <[Saint]> *No* acronyms...ever?
[22:12] <[Saint]> These rules are getting stricter by the day. ;p
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[22:14] <binaryhermit> I think he means acronyms for things with dirty words in them :P
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[22:14] <binaryhermit> like the one I dropped earlier
[22:17] <[Saint]> World Taekwondo Federation?
[22:17] * [Saint] nods
[22:17] <binaryhermit> yes, World Taekwondo Federation
[22:17] <[Saint]> Despite my jest, I should look out for that one as I sometimes use it for Worse Than Failure.
[22:17] <[Saint]> I forget about "the other one"
[22:18] <AbbyTheRat> Hmm.. need to do something about this bounce :/
[22:18] <AbbyTheRat> set to 400ms and it's still happening
[22:19] <gordonDrogon> wait until button is released. wait 20ms. if you see a 'hit' then repeat (ie. wait another 20mS then check)
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[22:21] <AbbyTheRat> ?
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[22:22] <gordonDrogon> standard switch debounce.
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[22:22] <AbbyTheRat> GPIO.add_event_detect(self.B_RIGHT, GPIO.FALLING, bouncetime=400) <- that fails? huh?
[22:22] <gordonDrogon> oh thats pithon. I've no idea.
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[22:23] <xreal> Can I connect an UMTS stick/dongle to raspberry to receive and send SMS ?
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[22:24] <AbbyTheRat> pithon? Don't know if that was a fail for python or a intentional mis-spelling
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[22:25] <ShorTie> he's not much on the snake
[22:25] <gordonDrogon> the latter.
[22:26] <AbbyTheRat> don't like python?
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[22:27] <gordonDrogon> I have no need for it.
[22:27] <gordonDrogon> I program in BASIC and C.
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[22:51] <Jeebiss> I could be wrong, but I feel like someone gave me a hotkey to get to a second shell within my pi incase the default one gets stuck
[22:51] <Jeebiss> is that a thing or did I make it up?
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[22:52] <clever> ctrl+alt+f1 thru 9 gets you to the main shells
[22:52] <clever> ctrl+alt+f7 is the Xorg ui
[22:52] <Jeebiss> ah thats it
[22:52] <Jeebiss> thanks clever
[22:52] <clever> dispmanx (the blob gl, omxplayer, and others) ignore that entirely
[22:53] <Jeebiss> i forgot to endwin() while using curses and messed my shell up lol
[22:53] <clever> there is a much simpler way to fix that
[22:53] <clever> just run 'reset'
[22:53] <clever> it resets all the terminal settings
[22:54] <Jeebiss> i could run anything, at least from the main cli
[22:54] <Jeebiss> couldnt*
[22:54] <clever> ctrl+c a few times, then 'reset'
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[22:54] <clever> try it even if nothing is showing up on the screen
[22:54] <Jeebiss> ill give it a go before i fix the bug
[22:55] <Jeebiss> oh, hey
[22:55] <Jeebiss> perfect
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[22:55] <clever> curses turns local echo off
[22:55] <Jeebiss> thats really handy to know
[22:55] <clever> so when you type 'reset' it still runs, but you dont see what your typing
[22:55] <Jeebiss> ah okay
[22:55] <Jeebiss> that makes sense
[22:55] <clever> reset just resets all those settings to defaults
[22:56] <clever> also usefull if you cat /dev/urandom and the fonts get switched
[22:56] <Jeebiss> good to know
[22:56] <Jeebiss> oh, you may be able to help me with my other issue
[22:56] <clever> next thing to fix in your curses program, you have to catch SIGINT (ctrl+c), and properly endwin() from that before quiting
[22:56] <Jeebiss> my python program has a while True loop and I generally just use ctrl+c to end it
[22:57] <Jeebiss> you beat me to it
[22:57] <clever> lol
[22:57] <Jeebiss> how do I 'catch' it?
[22:57] <clever> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1112343/how-do-i-capture-sigint-in-python
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[22:59] <Jeebiss> in the answer on there, signal_handler is my clean up method?
[22:59] <clever> yep
[23:00] <Jeebiss> Can you explain exactly what happens with these lines?
[23:00] <Jeebiss> signal.signal(signal.SIGINT, signal_handler)
[23:00] <Jeebiss> print('Press Ctrl+C')
[23:00] <Jeebiss> signal.pause()
[23:00] <Jeebiss> well, the print one is obvious
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[23:00] <Jeebiss> but I am not sure what the other 2 do
[23:00] <clever> the 1st one sets up a signal handler, to run your function when you hit ctrl+c
[23:00] <clever> the 2nd tells you to hit ctrl+c
[23:00] <clever> and the 3rd just makes it hang and wait
[23:00] <clever> replace the 3rd with your while True loop
[23:00] <Jeebiss> since i do not want to hang, i wouldnt use that?
[23:00] <Jeebiss> ah okay
[23:00] <Jeebiss> ill give that a go
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[23:05] <Jeebiss> clever: awesome, i think i got it under control now!
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[23:16] <TheHacker66> oh, i give up
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[23:17] <TheHacker66> need to do more tests with that resolv.conf
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[23:22] <Jeebiss> Hey clever, could you take a look at this:
[23:22] <Jeebiss> http://pastebin.com/eKGMEXzW
[23:22] <Jeebiss> I get an invalid syntax error on line 57
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[23:28] <Tachyon`> look at line 56
[23:28] <Tachyon`> notice something missing?
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[23:28] <Jeebiss> Tachyon`: Yep, stupid mistake
[23:28] <Jeebiss> Thanks
[23:28] <Tachyon`> yw -.o
[23:29] <Tachyon`> what is this code for out of interest?
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[23:31] <Jeebiss> It gets the data from my mpu-6050
[23:31] <Jeebiss> accel/gyro combo
[23:32] <Tachyon`> ahh, I see
[23:32] <Jeebiss> Tachyon`: Are you familiar with curses by any chance?
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[23:32] <Tachyon`> well, I've used it but about 10 years ago and it was ncurses
[23:32] <Tachyon`> but sort of
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[23:32] <Jeebiss> http://pastebin.com/dsmHuF1C
[23:33] <Jeebiss> Thats my current code, and when I run that, nothing is displayed at all
[23:33] <Tachyon`> I think you need to send a command to update the screen
[23:33] <Tachyon`> once you've finished adding to it
[23:33] <Jeebiss> Oh! thats right
[23:34] <Jeebiss> woot, i at least got something to display!
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[23:38] <\\Mr_C\\> pifm used to work before i re-did my sdcard
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[23:38] <\\Mr_C\\> for some reason its not sending the signal now
[23:38] <\\Mr_C\\> is there a way to test the gpio pin 7 to see if its working or not?
[23:39] <\\Mr_C\\> | 7 | 4 | 7 | GPIO 7 | ALT0 | High |
[23:39] <\\Mr_C\\> the high changes at random time from low to high
[23:40] <\\Mr_C\\> did i cook the pin?
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[23:41] <deadpool> hello
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[23:51] <Jeebiss> hi deadpool
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[23:55] <Jeebiss> curses is so much nicer then just clearing the screen and reprinting everything
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[23:56] <crumb> Jeebiss: isn't that what curses does?
[23:57] <deadpool> Jeebiss: I just got a raspberrypi and attached a wifi adapter to it. It can't seem to find it and some of the online stuff doesn't really help
[23:57] <Jeebiss> Before I switched to curses, I was using os.system("clear") and reprinting everything
[23:58] <Jeebiss> deadpool: https://learn.adafruit.com/adafruits-raspberry-pi-lesson-3-network-setup/setting-up-wifi-with-occidentalis
[23:58] <deadpool> Jeebiss: Can you help me get it up and running?
[23:58] <Jeebiss> thats the best tutorial on setting it up I found
[23:58] <Jeebiss> I followed it and my raspi's wifi is working great.
[23:59] <deadpool> cool will try that
[23:59] <deadpool> thanks Jeebiss
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